battlefield-6

[next dust]

Well, I don't prefer it but I am trying to Lvl40 and unlock the DCU camo. Stupid reason but... at any rate, thx for the feedback and letting me gripe.

[tribal zodiac]

Im also not really a fan of the recoil on the m4a1 either, it feels way too jittery, no rythm to it

[upbeat spade]

This guy yap about battlefield but not playing battlefield

[upbeat spade]

It was good in Beta.

[tribal zodiac]

Unfortunately my work pays me to be here

[blissful condor]

i used it a couple times today and feels really bad

[tribal zodiac]

Battlefield does not pay me, as much as i wish the devs would for making me put up with it

[blissful condor]

but i normally use guns like sg553 and scw10 so idk i just noticed im losing a lot more gunfights

[next dust]

Yeah that is an accurate assessment to what I am seeing tonite

[blissful condor]

actually my most used is scw10 with 53 hours 💀

[humble trench]

m4a1 just feels more rowdy without doing anything better than the sg553, so i dont really see a point in using it. which might say more about the sg553 needing to be toned down slightly but it is what it is

[tribal zodiac]

Every gun is viable but you need to adjust how you play

I can put up identical numbers with pretty much every gun in this game

[humble trench]

cmon u gotta admit, every time u try weapons and go back to the sg553 u notice games suddenly go a bit better :P

[tribal zodiac]

I think you should look at my weapons tab on tracker lol

[humble trench]

sure u can adapt with lesser weapons, play more carefully, but thats kinda dodging the obvious

[blissful condor]

just use the scw10 and u will win every gunfight

[quartz karma]

m4 was wayy better in the beta

[blissful condor]

basically the only gun i use

but i do have around 16 hours in both svk and miniscout

[humble trench]

64 hours on the sg553 here lmao. 34h on tr7, somehow ive got 35h on the qbz, i think i just got comfortable with how easy that weapon is despite it being a bit average at best close range

[tribal zodiac]

The gunfights i set myself up for sure

[humble trench]

19h scw10. i just dont like weapons with slow muzzle velocity. all my builds run extended barrels, even if light barrels are the go to for a bunch of weapons

[blissful condor]

u can barely feel the slow muzzle for scw10

since most ur fights are in cqc

[humble trench]

yeah i just like my weapons to do everything great ideally lol. i feel the scw10 dropoff at midrange is quite substantial compared to the sg553

[blissful condor]

im pretty sure the scw and sg553 have same damage dropoff models

[humble trench]

if i had to sorta pick a muzzle velocity minimum it'd prolly be 500, but faster feels way better

[blissful condor]

funny how in older bf titles 500 was the muzzle velocity for some snipers

[humble trench]

idk if its just me but the numbers in game for muzzle velocity dont quite track, i feel like the lower numbers are REALLY slow, and everything above 800 is more or less the same, as in quite fast

surely bullets dont fly that slowly irl lol

[tribal zodiac]

Tell that to miniscout users that pick it purely because it has the fastest muzzle velocity and then try to hit 200m shots with it

[humble trench]

yeah but 200m is like the other end of the map lolol

[blissful condor]

miniscout just has a lot of bulletdrop

[tribal zodiac]

Because it doesnt have long range ammo nor does it have a sweet spot, it sucks as a sniper

[humble trench]

i get its a different ballgame for snipers but i meant all the automatics ofc, 300-400 really feels like u have to lead ur shots more than seems logical in my mind

[tribal zodiac]

99% of mini scout users would be FAR better off using the sv98

[blissful condor]

how the sv98 is trash

[balmy shadow]

Anyone figured out how to reliably get the “lead your shots here” circle to show up on enemy aircraft on the AA guns? I can’t seem to ever get it to show up consistently

[humble trench]

sv98 has a sweet spot at least - but the scout's overall playing speed is too addictive to give up

[blissful condor]

most ur shots are headshots anyways i never rely on sweetspot

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah its definitely trash #screenshots-and-clips message

[blissful condor]

i mean none of the snipers are trash trash but trash compared to other snipers

also the sv98 is a pain to level up with no flash hider and the only supressor u unlock being at level 37 or 35

[tribal zodiac]

Its my highest kpm sniper by a substantial margin

The sweet spot with penetration ammo is insanely powerful

[blissful condor]

scout also has built in ads bolt so u save 30 points

[tribal zodiac]

Still not giving worth giving up the sweet spot when pure kill output is the goal

[blissful condor]

wouldnt the esr be the best sweet spot sniper then

[tribal zodiac]

Its really not, at least in breakthrough, the sv98 is the best choice and its not even close

[blissful condor]

would u say its worth it for me to use starting at level 1 then

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah, my build is a 5 point angled, lert 8x, 6x sdss or irons, supressor and ads bolt

[blissful condor]

iron sight is crazy

[tribal zodiac]

Penetration ammo and extended barrel

[tribal zodiac]

I mainly use the mini scout with iron sights

[twin token]

hi

[upbeat spade]

Sv98 sweet spot is great

[tribal zodiac]

And before you ask #screenshots-and-clips message

[upbeat spade]

Would you try any other sniper iron sighted

[tribal zodiac]

Sv98 sure, others no

[blissful condor]

feel like u could get the same result if u were using a shotgun or smth

[tribal zodiac]

Oh i use it out to 200m without much of an issue

[blissful condor]

oh

[tribal zodiac]

I always saw it as a dmr anyways, so i just started using it like one and it works quite well

[quick wolf]

do the psr

[tribal zodiac]

The PSR might be the only gun in this game i cant drop 100 with

Its quite possibly the worst gun in the game

[blissful condor]

how so

[upbeat spade]

PSR feels like it’s supposed to hits. But it just doesn’t hit

[quick wolf]

chambering is weak on it

[tribal zodiac]

Catatrophic movement inaccuracy penalty and a buns sweetspot

i.e you have to play so far away you cant really rack up kills, then if you try to play closer, now you HAVE to hit headshots and due to the penalty you are actually just a sitting duck to other snipers

[quartz karma]

unc how do you link clips like that

[tribal zodiac]

Movie maker

[quartz karma]

😭

[zealous citrus]

windows movie maker lmao

[wary hinge]

ngl I find it funny that sometimes ill just randomly steal my squadmates loadout when reviving him and I have no idea how to fix it

[hollow jasper]

By picking up your old load out from his old corpse

[wary hinge]

he was alive though

[hollow jasper]

Too bad

[wary hinge]

it made me take his gun off of his living body

[hollow jasper]

That's called theft and pax amarmata will merc you

[wary hinge]

eyyy man I wasnt the 1 that wanted his loadout. I went from having a b36 and a maxed out m87 to a KTS with a very large scope on it

[hollow jasper]

Well, just do well with the KTS

[hollow jasper]

You're the one that pressed his button tho

[wary hinge]

ngl I suck with lmg's so

theres a reason why my support has the drs over the lmg's

[blissful condor]

real goats pick up ur medic loadout to revive u

but then ur left with their loadout lol

[wind escarp]

Put on thermal and suppressor, set up bipod somewhere good and wait, ??????, profit

[wary hinge]

ngl I dont really feel like waiting in a area soooo

[blissful condor]

and then get sniped

[hollow jasper]

By sniper using thormels

[heady gale]

Thermal is such an overrated tactic

[hollow jasper]

I can't wait for them to get nerfed to oblivion before they're buffed to oblivion 3 weeks before dice announces BF7

[heady gale]

They don’t need a nerf which is strange, could do with a buff

[hollow jasper]

I opt not to use thermals for the most part unless I pick up someone else's gun, but what makes you say they might need a buff?

In the previous battlefields their effective view distance in which you'd be able to accurately make out a target was heavily dependent on the map you were playing, Zavod 311 for example would have a view distance of about 100m, Silk roads view distance with em is about 350m

[heady gale]

I said need a buff not nerf 🙏

[upbeat spade]

Yeah what she said

[hollow jasper]

Oh rip, I accidentally miss typed

[heady gale]

😭😭

[hollow jasper]

The first paragraph still more or less was the question I was asking, then went to explain how they were balanced in bf4

[heady gale]

I mean, they don’t work through smoke, the housing is insanely bulky, and they cost 25 points (1/4 of your guns point budget)

Same as variable scopes, they cost too much tbh

[hollow jasper]

I feel like them not working through smoke is the balance to them more or less being able to see people indefinitely with them, as opposed to them having a view distanced capped per map

[hollow jasper]

Plus, if there wasn't smoke how would they be countered, unless flank/ vehicle

[heady gale]

It’s just a strange choice imo, near every game doesn’t choose to do that

[heady gale]

25 points for it is enough of a pay off if it were to be worth using

[hollow jasper]

I'd say maybe 40 points would be enough if they could see through smoke + increasing amount of suppression received

I think about 1/4 of the time when I get killed to 1/3 of the time that player has thermals equipped

[heady gale]

Near half your points ? 😭 the visibility isn’t near bad enough to warrant spending that much

[abstract nexus]

Tbh the point system is so shitty I think thermals working through smoke is perfectly fine

[hollow jasper]

I really like the point system lowkey but that's another convo lol

[abstract nexus]

Considering the fact that each weapon has a few points automatically spent 25 is in practice more than 1/4th

[hollow jasper]

I think smoke blocking thermals could also be a residual thing from previous battlefields as well

[heady gale]

It’s a high cost for not that many benefits tbh

[abstract nexus]

If you can shoot people through smoke youre sacrificing either more mag capacity or a supressor

[hollow jasper]

It should be a beneficial thing to use unless you're on a night map

[abstract nexus]

Or a grip but I personally rarely use grips too much cost not enough benefit

[hollow jasper]

Which you should have to do if you want to see through smoke

[abstract nexus]

Yeah and you already do so i think it seeing through smoke would be fair

[heady gale]

Yeah it should be, but rn the points it costs isn’t justified by the benefits imo

[hollow jasper]

I looked it up, and it's probably a residual thing in the engine, you couldnt see through smoke with thermals/flirt scopes in bf4

[hollow jasper]

I guess drop the pts to like 15 and it would be balanced enough lol? I feel like that would then shift the majority of people to using them, which would lead to another nerf in some capacity

[heady gale]

Even 20 would be better, I think the base is 20/100 without attachments, so to run it rn puts you up to like 40/100

[hollow jasper]

How do you feel about the suppressor meta?

[heady gale]

Wouldn’t be as domineering if it wasn’t for the recoil reduction on the lightened

I like it tho, suppressed sounds so much better

[abstract nexus]

Real

I almost always suppress my guns when I can cause suppressed fire in video games is very pleasing

I do think suppressors are too strong but because 3d spotting is too strong

[stray eagle]

I wonder what weapons would be the most improved with unlimited attachment points

[abstract nexus]

Anything with a really big mag option and synthetic rounds

So like, SL9 and RPK

[heady gale]

Vector

[abstract nexus]

I think SCW10 would also be able to have lightened suppressor 25 round mag and extended and an optic

[heady gale]

Yeah SCW would be cracked but vector would benefit more solely because of rate of fire

[stray eagle]

I was thinking SVDM, that thing is already a monster but having a thermal scope with the 20 round mag and all the recoil attachments would be insane

[abstract nexus]

I mean what does vector get to mix together that scw doesnt

[heady gale]

Oh SCW is the better gun, but if it’s what would benefit more the higher fire rate would benefit more from having that mag size + good attachments

[stray eagle]

Honestly, neither the vector nor the SCW would be meaningfully improved

you get what, a thermal scope and a grip? You don't need either of those

I guess hollow points too but still

[abstract nexus]

Yeah ig it would benefit more from being able to get a kill without needing to reload more than scw10 would benefit from a mag that fits 3 kills

Kinda forgot the question was which weapons would see the most improvement not which would be best

[rich torrent]

TR7 would go hard with the two shot HS.

[stray eagle]

set yourself up with the 10 round mag, pretend its a shotgun

[slender epoch]

i remember when hs mattered

[bronze grail]

Remember the time when battlefield was good?

[tight prism]

Like never?

[wide anchor]

when

[gleaming ibex]

why tf did i just join a BR quads mid match. . .

[wide anchor]

br dead

[bronze grail]

Idunno, bf6 is my second battlefield game

[kindred compass]

Hello There

[wide anchor]

bfv

[tight prism]

It’s fun. Just bored with it until it gets content

[kindred compass]

Bf6 is my 7th BF game

[merry wolf]

Anyone looking for players

[bronze grail]

Yeah, Activision

[kindred compass]

First was BF1 then i started playing All other BF Games

[formal timber]

Did they remove XP Boost from the store? I think it's in the store before. But I can't find it now.

[kindred compass]

Lol

[wide anchor]

fix the game

[idle spoke]

bf1 was best

[wide anchor]

bf1 terrible

[idle spoke]

skill issue

[tight prism]

What he said

[wide anchor]

doesnt take skill to stand still 😂

[idle spoke]

bf1 was just better in every way imo and its so far the only one that gained players this year

[idle spoke]

So do something else then

[wide anchor]

bfv was better

[idle spoke]

It had the potential to be better

but since they dropped it like a half baked potato I cant say it is

[wide anchor]

but anything with world war 1-2 in it just boring and overused content

[idle spoke]

I dont think so especially ww1. How many games do ww1? I prefer it more than modern shooters cuz modern shooters is all what kind of auto are we using today boys.

[merry wolf]

@bronze grail @bronze grail 😂

[idle spoke]

People talked shit about bf1 before it dropped cuz it was ww1. Cod followed suit after they saw how much winning bf1 was doing.

[wide anchor]

cod made what

[hollow wyvern]

Did cod ever do a WW1 based game???

[wide anchor]

no

[hollow wyvern]

I thought so

[idle spoke]

Thought they did do some ww1 shit after battlefield but I dont pay attention to that garbage anyway ig

But that just kinda goes to prove ww1 shit is not over done in any fashion

[wide anchor]

it was ww2

[hollow wyvern]

They did a WW2 game after battlefield 1 but no WW1 so yeah

[bronze grail]

Cod Vanguard if memory serves

[idle spoke]

ah yea

[wide anchor]

vanguard is ww2

[gleaming ibex]

might have to get back into wz atp

[hollow wyvern]

I thought vanguard was 2021? And they had an actual game called Cod ww2? (A few years earlier)

[wide anchor]

yes they have game called cod ww2

[bronze grail]

Redsec is warzone at home

[hollow wyvern]

Yeah see that was the one after ww2 I’m pretty sure

[gleaming ibex]

ww2 was like 2018ish. and yes, vanguard was 2020-21

[wide anchor]

cod has made like what 6-7 ww2 based games

[idle spoke]

Prolly more

[hollow wyvern]

Ahh okay I had my dates wrong lmao

[wide anchor]

cod ww2 was 2017

[bronze grail]

Cod 1,2,3, United Offensive, World At War, WW2 and Vanguard

Though United Offensive was more of an expansion for either cod 1 or 2

Anyone remembers MoH: Airborne?

[covert snow]

YEAH REDSEC is warzone with aditional bug fiture

[native mulch]

I do. MOH: Allied Assault, Pacific Assault as well

[wide anchor]

at the time everyone was doing some world war 2 games

[bronze grail]

Allied Assault was fun, I remember playing it as a kid

What about those old Brothers in Arms games? Remember those?

I had the first one on Xbox lol

[wide anchor]

i was just thinking those

[native mulch]

I do. Road to hill 30, hell's highway etc

[idle spoke]

Spearhead was the shit

[bronze grail]

👴 we're all old men

[idle spoke]

You remember freeze tag?

[bronze grail]

If it was a multiplayer mode, I don't remember playing it 😔 we didn't have internet access back then

[idle spoke]

Rip yea it was

Was so much fun I want them to add it to battlefield

[bronze grail]

Quake Wars: Enemy Territory anyone?

[native mulch]

i do. I didn't play it much just barely.

[bronze grail]

I spent hours playing against bots in that one

[idle spoke]

I loved playing tribes when I was younger

[bronze grail]

Tribes?

[languid mural]

I just remember the spy class existing for the aliens or whatever they were
but holy throwback

[bronze grail]

I think they were the cyborg alien dudes, Strogg or whatever they were called

[wide anchor]

return to castle wolfenstein

[idle spoke]

It was a sci fi shooter really fun

[idle spoke]

Wolfenstein 3d was one of if not my first game

[bronze grail]

Painkiller now that was a great game

[wide anchor]

painkiller was like horde shooter

[bronze grail]

Painkiller > new doom games

[tight prism]

Blake stone aliens of gold

[bronze grail]

I think I have Painkiller on steam

[wide anchor]

new doom games are fine, newest one i didnt like at all but 2016 and eternal were great

[tight prism]

Duke nukem 2026 when

[bronze grail]

I have vague memories of playing Twisted Metal on my cousin's bf's PS1 in the very early 2000s and then watching him play Resident Evil 2. I had nightmares after that lol

[bronze grail]

I've heard that Dark Ages was actually meant to be a Quake reboot, but they changed plans late into the production.

It makes sense tbh, that space viking aesthetic fits Quake much better than Doom.

Commander Keen Doom tie-in-reboot when

[wide anchor]

when quake reboot

[sudden chasm]

was there anything else added today other than the new battle pass?

[idle spoke]

It really annoys me they call dark ages medieval

[tight prism]

New battle pass hasn’t been added

[wide anchor]

dark ages was like prologue but didnt kinda feel like it, also it was too slow for my taste

[sudden chasm]

ah, okay then

[idle spoke]

Was an alright game but did seem a bit slow

[bronze grail]

Idunno, it didn't fit the Doom mold for me at all.

[amber viper]

Is the game dying?

[fiery oxide]

[blissful condor]

dying no but less players

[violet idol]

When is todays update coming out?

[keen meadow]

at midnight hours for me, it takes a few minutes to get a match for CQ now.

[amber viper]

What the hell happened

[blissful condor]

uhhh no updates

[amber viper]

I mean wasn’t that like how battlefield update works? 3 or 4 months update

[split olive]

Anyone know what happen I was in mid game

[rich torrent]

They went on holiday for a month and then delayed S2 by like 3 weeks. Also a lot of issues were brought in with the Dec 9th update and we just had to deal with it while they were away (BF2042 all over again).

Their month off single handedly is the reason why the game suffered and again, same happened with 2042 except that died in multiple regions while they were away.

[shut jay]

It can still recover

[tight prism]

Anybody knows when 2xp weapon level up event is happening again?

[fiery oxide]

How would anyone know that

[tight prism]

Idk if it's one time event or a monthly/weekend thing

It drops randomly with no warning usually

[languid mural]

Im not surprised, they absolutely ruined community trust

[void crow]

Mid feb normaly

[smoky tiger]

28th jan

[languid mural]

holy moly, looking at BF4 footage, some sights are just so much wider and clearer

[vale quest]

random event, didn’t notice a pattern yet

[vale quest]

to be honest, there was a lot of hype at first and a lot of people played it when it released but not so many stuck around

[steady flare]

how fucking hard is for them to stop the tanks sitting in spawn abuse

like why cant they just start fixing the fucking game

[fiery oxide]

It's not exactly abuse though is it

[steady flare]

oh is it not?

sit in the spawn and be protected from everything by the spawn turret

[dreamy helm]

What the hell did you do to the game?? Performance drops of epic proportions

[steady flare]

have whole map control from spawn and only way to counter is by ramming with a jet

[fiery oxide]

Whole map control

[steady flare]

found the spawn sitter

[fiery oxide]

On what map

[languid mural]

blackwell

[steady flare]

why does it matter to you you dont think its a problem

[languid mural]

eastwood you also have influence over almost every point on one side

[rich torrent]

You're not exactly gaining anything in spawn for the most part.

[steady flare]

except being able to shut down the entire airspace from safety

[languid mural]

firestorm also has pretty ridiculous spawn for one of the sides

[rich torrent]

And they have vehicles sitting in spawn and not gaining anything objectively.

[steady flare]

????

[languid mural]

ye, one tank for 2 helis and possibly 2 jets is not a worth trade, hell, even the AA which cant be punished

not like the AA is useful for anything else, so it gets to do its job while being invincible
not worth 👍

[rich torrent]

Most people can barely TOW a heli let alone a jet.

Every game when there's atleast 2 vehicles in spawn, they lose.

[languid mural]

wdym most people can barely tow a heli
literally almost everyone can do it now, thats why everyone is spamming tows

[rich torrent]

It's not a great system but also removing the C-Ram would require map changes since all spawns can essentially be camped.

[rich torrent]

I've been flying on MNK for 6 weeks now and RPGs have been a far bigger problem, you can see TOWs easily unless the game decides to not show it.

[steady flare]

the amount of time ive been towed by a low level console player shows how easy it is

[rich torrent]

Level means absolutely nothing.

[steady flare]

it does tho

[rich torrent]

But it doesn't, aiming skills transfer between games.

[steady flare]

it shouldnt with tows

[fiery oxide]

You should probably have a bit more awareness if you get towed often

[rich torrent]

Aiming is aiming, nothing more to it.

[abstract nexus]

Whats the tow

[steady flare]

except it isnt

[rich torrent]

Aiming skill doesn't magically go away between games.

[steady flare]

ITS NOT ABOUT AIMING

[rich torrent]

It literally is though

[languid mural]

yeah, but because everyone is spamming the ToWs and RPGs, if u try dodging one u can get hit by the other pretty easily

[languid mural]

its the rocket that follows your crosshair available for almost all vehicles

[rich torrent]

This was your reasoning as to it being easy-

Level is meaningless.

[fiery oxide]

Tracking is part of aiming

[steady flare]

put a low level never played before noob in a jet or a heli they cant fly 5 seconds, give them tow they can shoot everything down from the sky because its easier than falling down stairs

[languid mural]

its easy because the missile is fast (as in, the speed and turn rate), besides the heli ToW the only part hard about aiming it is the fact that your target can possibly fly above your turret elevation
it oneshots, and if you dont hit, by the time you miss the shot you get it back

[rich torrent]

Again, level means nothing.

I don't know how many times I need to say it.

[steady flare]

just leave you bring nothing

[rich torrent]

Aim skills transfer between games, this is common knowledge my guy.

[tight prism]

[rich torrent]

I can't wait to listen to people cry about the LB balance when the TOWs and RPGs get nerfed lmao.

[fiery oxide]

If they nerf them too much air is just gonna dumpster every lobby

[tight prism]

There’s a pattern of the same dozen or so people who come in here every single day to complain and argue about the same fucking thing like it’s magically going to be different than yesterday 😂

[rich torrent]

This is exactly what is going to happen.

Obviously leaks aren't allowed so all I'll say is the 2042 LB looks weak compared.

[tight prism]

Cussing out chat will surely make the devs who don’t read chat work harder

[rich torrent]

People think emotionally or have opinions based on the current with absolutely no consideration for the future content or effects of changes.

[tight prism]

and they all think they know how to code and develop a game like it should be easy to fix in a day

[sudden chasm]

if you think playing air is bad, then don't play air until it gets fixed, no?

[rich torrent]

Season 2 will be exactly like this -

TOW and RPG will get over nerfed, the LB will be absolutely cracked, the AH will now be cracked, Stingers and the AA won't get buffed.

Air will be dominant like crazy.

[tight prism]

That would be logical.

[sudden chasm]

for example if i think the sl9 sucks, then i won't use the sl9

same principle goes for other guns and vehicles

[rich torrent]

Speaking of, I find it crazy how little weapon balancing we've had.

[fiery oxide]

and it's beyond op in 2042

[sudden chasm]

what would be there to balance tbh, other than the scw and the sg553, otherwise everything is semi balanced

everything can compete with anything disregarding the scw and sg553

[tight prism]

I think it’s fine for each category of weapons to have three or four viable options with the rest being shit.

[rich torrent]

More buffs are needed than nerfs but the SCW and SG are crazy good right now.

SL9, UMP45, LMR, MP7 to name a few - just bad or average.

[tight prism]

I take pride in not caring

[rich torrent]

Ai isn't wanted.

[sudden chasm]

the mp7 is in a decent state, i personally don't think it needs much

[fiery oxide]

It's not even a human

Someone got their account yoinked

[sudden chasm]

the mp7 has the 5th fastest ttk in the game on paper rn, no?

[rich torrent]

Nothing major no but I feel it needs a little.

As I said previously, BF6 is just in need of weapon buffs more than nerfs.

[tight prism]

Buff mortars

[fiery oxide]

Hell nah

[languid mural]

ive heard bf4 mortars were pretty nice to use

[sudden chasm]

i can't really think of other guns that need a buff other than the ump and maybe the ak-205

upping the damage on the ak-205 by one or two would be alright for it, nothing too major at least

[fiery oxide]

205 only needs synth bullets

Pretty sure it's balanced around synth bullets even

[sudden chasm]

i wonder, would a test server for this game work the same way r6 has one for example

was bf labs public? or did you have to sign up for it?

that's the closest thing to a test server atm

[rich torrent]

LMR, DB12, SL9, 205,RPK.

Can't remember the others off the top.

[sudden chasm]

also one gun that i think should also be nerfed is the drs, maybe an accuracy nerf or something

[rich torrent]

I'd really like to see a buff to the UMP though.

[sudden chasm]

if the sl9 shot faster it would be great

even to like 690-700 rpm

[fiery oxide]

It's got some insane accuracy at range

I compete with ARs using it

[sudden chasm]

one gun that i think is honestly underrated is the qbz, i rarely see people using it

i've been using it lately and i've really been liking it so far, i've got it to like level 25-30, somewhere there

it doesn't hit too hard but it's stable and shoots decently fast

[waxen wharf]

sorry for jumping in but how the heck do you guys find people to play with?
theres 20k people on according to steam every single mode i click on puts me into a lobby with 10 people max T.T it makes the game seem so dead

[languid mural]

I mean tbh I just queue the main 3 modes

[fiery oxide]

I get into full lobbies almost instantly

[tight prism]

Turn crossplay on

[waxen wharf]

okay, ill check thank you
i tried escalation, cqb lockdown and closed weapon all out and found nothing T.T

[harsh jay]

Closed weapons is tucked behind and will pretty much always have bots. Open conquest and breakthrough should always find players unless it's unconvenient time in your region

[west jacinth]

Do we know if fixes on netcode/ HIT registration is coming for season 2?
Also I did read all the comments from David Sherland about complexity on the netcode..but did they confirm anything?

[languid mural]

situation of the netcode is very complex because it is not skins so u cant convince anyone to allocate more resources on it, after all better netcode doesnt show immediate profits lule

[fiery oxide]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/1335997362258186292

[heady quail]

ready for another dry season

[charred wigeon]

Wat time does the pass go live uk?

[tight prism]

Season got delayed

[charred wigeon]

Yh i kno but there doing another mini pass for us to do

[tight prism]

Haven’t seen a release date for that

[charred wigeon]

Thought it was today

[tight prism]

Might be. I know they mentioned another added bonus path but I haven’t seen when.

[modest jackal]

Yeah:

• The LMR could have the 15 Round Mag by default instead of 10.
• DP-12 needs to either have the same Damage as the M1014 or slightly better while being worse than the M870.
• SL9 could fire faster ig.
• 205 could have a Damage Buff?
• The RPKM cloud have longer Headshot Ranges.

The problem with the UMP and SL9 are just that the other SMGs don't have enough spread for either gun to truly shine.

[charred wigeon]

Google says frostfire bonus path today

[abstract nexus]

Rpkm should either have less drop off or less spread

[elfin wraith]

Bit new to BF6, man the UI is horrible And so many challenges and unlock paths and what not.

Is there a good guideline for which challenges to focus on for progression? I can't do the weapon ones yet, rank 13.

[abstract nexus]

Mf inaccurate as fuck cause for a low fire rate gun it kicks and builds spread faster than a normal lmg somehow

But then it also has the fall off of a carbine

[trail stag]

Where can i promote my youtube channel lads?

[clever tusk]

Good morning guys

[elfin wraith]

Man having an alternate copyright-friendly name for the HK417 is pretty funny seeing as how H&K had to change the name of the HK416 from the HK M4 due to copyright too

[vivid goblet]

Is the new challenges live and whats the update ?

[feral minnow]

fr

asia servers are dead fr

[modest jackal]

Spread isn't really an issue, but yeah, it shouldn't have Carbine Levels of Damage Drop-Off (Especially considering the Barrel Length).

For other weak weapons not mentioned, the PSR could swap its Bullet Velocity around with the Mini Scout.

The QBZ could have lower Spread or Recoil, I guess.

[elfin wraith]

Whoa whoa whoa is that logic I see? Get that outta here this isn't arma

[tight prism]

fr fr, he should be ashamed of himself

[elfin wraith]

This is a safe haven for defibs curing slugs to the face and Javelins being worse AT weapons than RPGs

🥰

[fiery oxide]

The snipers are purely balanced around their sweetspot range

[neon osprey]

With that level of logic, the RPG should have ZERO effect on the Abrams or Leo 2 a4

[tight prism]

Logic...what logic, I see no logic

[neon osprey]

causes ammo cookoff inside a tank by rubbing a torch against it

[elfin wraith]

I just meant the RPG is Russian heh

But yeah idk, it's funny to me that the top-attack AT missiles are the worst AT weapons

Since they both pack the most punch and hit the weakest spot on the tank, other than the belly

[neon osprey]

When is frostfire coming out?

I wanna see if there is anything new or interesting

[fiery oxide]

Yestermorrow

[neon osprey]

Gruh

[fiery oxide]

It's live now

[hallow geode]

The community portal showcase is here and it's a basic hardcore mode lol...... they've failed to do the simplest thing : Retain players during the wait for season 2 by giving full XP to cool maps like gulf of Lyndon conquest and hydro electric dam. So many insanely talented people pouring their souls into those maps only to be kicked to the side by a mode that should just be permanently rotating like closed weapons.

[sudden chasm]

the qbz is fine, the recoil isn't bad at all

[neon osprey]

Thank you

[wind escarp]

Tommesterday

[neon osprey]

Explodes pancakes with mind

[wind escarp]

Teleports behind you heh nothing personal kid

[heavy ruin]

[lunar fulcrum]

bonus points progression doesn't work

either no progress - or restart game and get everything unlocked ?!

[fiery oxide]

Working for me 🤷‍♂️

[lunar fulcrum]

can't post vids so can't post proof

[fiery oxide]

You don't know how to post?

[analog field]

Is there just really no way to turn off crossplay on pc.

[eternal lotus]

when update

[lunar fulcrum]

1 hour ago

[eternal lotus]

didnt even announce it

prob sucks right

[violet prawn]

When we get new equipment for vehicles ????

[west condor]

You guys realize this game is dead right?

[eternal lotus]

30k players aint dead

[west condor]

For a Battlefield that released not too long ago? Yes, that's dead..

[eternal lotus]

it aint dead dude just lack of updates

[west condor]

So its dead???

[eternal lotus]

no wonder why you're named "i dont revive"

[west condor]

Roblox player/Lego Batman player btw

[eternal lotus]

whats wrong with batman

[west condor]

I wasn't sure at first, but now I know what the current Battlefield's playerbase consists of

[eternal lotus]

the game feels repetitive but if season 2 will get huge content then you cant call it a dead game

[violet prawn]

This bf is dying, 700k on steam to 30k in 4 months or 3 its dying look the concurrent

[eternal lotus]

see dying not dead

[west condor]

😂

[west condor]

Sit this one out, young man. Never meet your heroes..

[umbral wigeon]

Thats what i want

The mini scout is way to op (highest rpm and bullet velocity is unbalanced)

[violet prawn]

Battlefield is never comeback to his golden age the Battlefield every veteran know is dead

[eternal lotus]

tell that to bo7

[violet prawn]

You can say the same with all COD game

[west condor]

That's ironic, because COD will get at least somewhat of a playerbase off of name alone

Matter of fact, I expect a large majority of BF6's playerbase to temporarily migrate to MW3 remastered

Seeing as most of them were COD players anyways to begin with.

[eternal lotus]

mw3 remaster never coming out

[west condor]

baseless rumors, but could still hold. they've already issued an apology for their lack of creativity. only thing is, I doubt they'll be able to cook something up substantial. so in COD fashion as always, release a remaster

[eternal lotus]

instead of mw3 remaster it will be bo7 remaster

[violet prawn]

I prefer they do a total reboot of the franchise

[eternal lotus]

theyll never listen to the community

[violet prawn]

Like bf

Bf don't look like bf was before

That look like a mix of bf and cod the wrong mix

[wary hinge]

I mean or they could just work on a different name instead of it always being battlefeild

[violet prawn]

For me bf is dead the licence I liked is no more

[wary hinge]

ngl I just wish battlefront 2 was updated again

games fire

[violet prawn]

I wish I get a warhammer 40k battlefield/front

[queen pivot]

Bf7 is coming dw bros

[scarlet creek]

We getting that extra pass today?

[wary hinge]

watch them release it in a single year after bf6

[queen pivot]

%100 xp event gone ?

[modest jackal]

Yeah, I don't buy that a Bolt Action 5.56 can outrange a 8.6mm Beast.

[elfin wraith]

Boy do I have a surprise for you

5.56 does actually have better velocity and less drop due to higher pressure and being lighter and smaller

The 8.6 will have way more mass and energy, but in pure range/accuracy terms it checks out haha

[modest jackal]

I guess.

But only the PSR Vs Mini Scout Bullet Velocity is stupid.

[umbral wigeon]

For balancing reasons the slower rpm gun should be better at range

Like how they did with the Enfield and G98 in bf1

[neat reef]

new challenges this week?

[umbral wigeon]

For balancing reasons the slower rpm gun should be better at range, Like how they did with the Enfield and G98 in bf1

The mini scout should have a velocity 0f 900

Psr 1000 - 1200

[coral lily]

yes

[lunar fulcrum]

season 2 maybe

[modest jackal]

900 m/s is still generous. 750-800 m/s would probably be enough.

[pale orbit]

Does anyone playing on a PC or laptop have the problem that the game closes on its own? I tried every option and nothing worked. Support gave me the same solutions and it's still the same.

[tribal zodiac]

No long range ammo, bullet velocity is hardly relevant with the way most people try to snipe

99% of snipers on this game would be better off with an sv98 or esr, but most people cant seem to grasp weapon characterics outside of basic text stats and just pick the one with the highest velocity

[tropic horizon]

it has no long range ammo so the bullet drop is bad compared to other snipers

hmm, discord didnt scroll >_> anyway, it loses that velo very quick

[upbeat spade]

Lololol

[umbral wigeon]

100%

[modest jackal]

True...kind of.

[tropic horizon]

it literally isnt true with miniscout

[modest jackal]

Thinking about it, half of the Season 1 Weapons are Mid-Low Tier.

[umbral wigeon]

I do agree

[merry bolt]

Profile page is broken in game.

[tribal zodiac]

It makes a notable difference past 100m

Not drop, but leading a running target you eill notice a difference

[upbeat spade]

Hq sniping 😎

[tribal zodiac]

I have the most sniper kills on this game and have used every build and configuration possible, i know exactly how they all act with what ammo types and barrel types

Ive had a long morning and do not feel like getting skill checked right before bed

And on that note, goodnight

[hexed violet]

cant get any of my weekly "Get headshot kills with Sidearms" to register, anyone else?

[pale orbit]

Is EA and have bugs...

[frail valve]

Is it only me, or is scrolling through the menus kinda weird atm... jumping text and so on?

[hexed violet]

Seems to be a issue with HC conquest where you can crawl. Domination it registers.

[pale orbit]

Lucky, I haven't been able to play for a week because the game closes on its own and there is no 100% functional solution.

[placid wyvern]

I've been lagging every game for about a week now.

[modest jackal]

Didn't notice that, but the Season 1 Unlock Path Section for M44 and GCH-22 Headshots works fine.

[hexed violet]

My guess is if I had finished off the downed guys in HC conquest since thats enabled it would have counted as a headshot. But who knows, was able to get my 5 needed in 1 game of domination.

[modest jackal]

I think the M44 One Shot Headshot kills them without Downing them.

It's the best option anyways.

[worthy cave]

I feel like the only time I die outright is if I was just rezzed and get killed again - is there a way to kill without downing someone?

[wide anchor]

idk they need to fix up the netcode but doubt

[worthy cave]

Would make sense if headshots = death and only body shots downed players.

[abstract nexus]

Sniper tier 2 ability on training path

Oh and if you die while up too high in the sky youre unreviveable

[worthy cave]

Interesting, thanks.

[feral stream]

how do I see what my gun level is?

[thorny pumice]

Did they release the bonus season merch?

[abstract nexus]

Merch?

[fresh cloud]

bruh, this bonus path is cool asf for people who didn't buy the BP

[placid wyvern]

Just finished the bonus path

[upbeat spade]

I love battlefield

[placid wyvern]

Wait, just the challenges this week.

[humble trench]

wasgonna say, ur really fast at completing entire bp bonus path's

[abstract nexus]

Bonus path kinda doodoo nothing special

This one just had recolors

Best thing in there is the 60 minute hardware exp booster

[fresh cloud]

I like the Agressor sticker and the Recon skin

ya'll should try Avalanche on Portal... super fun to try to make it to the top

[winter atlas]

Well, it's replacing the nothing we would have gotten otherwise. But yeah, kinda meh

[sturdy spindle]

hey arent u the guy that called battlefield dead 22 times

[upbeat spade]

Hey aren’t you the person who won’t answer how big their forehead is

[sturdy spindle]

[sudden chasm]

hi hi

[vale quiver]

@ea just so yall know it is garbage when you give us stickers and patches and charms no one cares about that stuff and you cant even see them unless you look at it in menu i think its worse to give us these insignificant things than it is to give us nothing

maybe if we could put stickers all over our guns and people could see them it would matter

but we cant and you put it on the inside of the hold its dumb

likw whats the thinking beghind them honestly?

[humble trench]

its all they can do to keep some peope happy kekw

[vale quiver]

you a bad person and you advertise it

[humble trench]

if they had the knowhow to fix gamebreaking bugs, we would have seen some fixes already. been too long now so im assuming most of dice is working on future games already

[sweet inlet]

We can’t take this EOMM anymore. It’s not possible to get killed by extremely low-level players just because they deal more damage. This isn’t a fair game.
Not to mention claymores: the ones you place don’t explode or only deal 60% damage, while the ones placed by low-level players kill you at full health. (Same thing with incendiary grenades: when used by low-level players, they burn you even where there’s no fire.)
In a fair game you would have created servers only for low-level players (with the possibility to enter up to level 60), not activate this EOMM.
You’ve already lost thousands of players since launch. Call of Duty, which had all this kind of crap, is hated by everyone — and you’re taking it as an example?

[sturdy spindle]

who

[vale quiver]

you

[weak ice]

How did you finish it? I am missing 25 points and did all challenges

[placid wyvern]

I didn't, I thought I did but I wasn't paying attention. I only finished this week's challenges assuming it was enough.

[vale quiver]

its not?

[weak ice]

I guess they messed it up again??

[vale quiver]

par it seems

[placid wyvern]

Is it only for this week? I assumed it would be another week.

[vale quiver]

13 days

[placid wyvern]

Okay, so it's working.

[weak ice]

Last one was 2 weeks as well i believe and they had to alter the end challenge to get more points.

If it were 2 weeks why have a 35 point finishing challenge now. Seems odd to me but ok

[vale quiver]

they said they had to give out a bunch of point to people to finish it for them

[placid wyvern]

The last one was only one week.

[weak ice]

Guess we will find out. Thanks for the quick reply

[slender epoch]

i was gonna play some bf6 last nite but then got put on the plumber team final score was 0-781

[fiery oxide]

Not even the worst I've seen or had myself

[slender epoch]

it’s not i just had enough of it

my squad mate went 0-9 by the end of the game lol

[fiery oxide]

basically the average squad mate

[languid mural]

weakest ragebait attempt

[elfin wraith]

You what?

[winter atlas]

I've not seen anyone provide any actual evidence for EOMM. Just people that complain, often after having seen a Youtuber raging or been to Reddit.

[elfin wraith]

Prob just lag and drawing conclusions

[misty yew]

Games aren't meant to be fair across the board, it's meant to be fun.

[elfin wraith]

[fresh cloud]

you seriously used ai to write this? lol

[fossil jolt]

is the new bonus path live yet?

[fresh cloud]

yes

[unkempt cedar]

Looks like it

[trim mist]

is sniping better with a controller? due to the aim assist?

[fresh cloud]

goddamn this game is dead... this is the 2nd game in a row i've been populated with bots, didn't mean to reply to you lol

[winter atlas]

I have no issues. But sucks that happened I guess.

[crimson garden]

Penguin big fan of new Bonus path happening! 😎 Re-rolls seemed to arrived bit later, the Redsec and Gauntlet challenges had Penguin concerned for a bit 😮 But turned out Re-rolls got added/updated after having a played a match which is cool! 😎

[worn estuary]

I need to know how are some people at lvl 300 in this game, that is out of control

[humble trench]

by playing teh game

[languid mural]

theres no EOMM, as Ive yet to be adjusted to a better enemy performing lobby

[dry pike]

is there somthing wrong with the hitbox now?

i cant hit anything that moves with the svk. they have to stand still for atleast 1sec

[fresh cloud]

I thought that too but nah, some people are just really good at evading

[dry pike]

59 ping

[dry pike]

well last week everything got hit

if u have 300ping u can shoot 25 bullets in some1s head before they die its stupid lol

[idle spoke]

Honestly

[fresh cloud]

yeah, sometimes the game routes people to the wrong region

[idle spoke]

There is no match making at all it just fills you in according to your latency

[fiery oxide]

It really doesn't care about latency either since you can still just vpn to a different region and play with 1 trillion ping if you want to

[idle spoke]

Then it takes that latency

[vernal geode]

Server down?

[fresh cloud]

using a VPN while playing BF6 is dangerous lol. You can get stuck on the wrong region due to cached routing files

[amber belfry]

its not unheard ofd to get banned while using one either in other games.

its got its flaws.

[fresh cloud]

I don't ever really pay attention to other players cosmetics lol

[sturdy hawk]

anyone not getting their battlepass bonus points? Could it be because I already finished the regular battlepass??

[fresh cloud]

there's not really COD skins either lol

they retracted those

[wraith canopy]

No xD

[fresh cloud]

https://gamingbolt.com/battlefield-6-update-tones-down-excessively-green-outfit-to-positive-response-theyre-listening

[wraith canopy]

This old one lol

[silk relic]

Hello,
Why are we forced to use the server search and a filter to find hardcore/extreme matches?

We want to find hardcore/extreme matches more easily. We don't want to go through the grind for it. It's tedious and time-consuming.

[wraith canopy]

There are many others already which are bright af as well

[past jasper]

because those happens in portal

[idle spoke]

People just want a nicki minaj skin

[fresh cloud]

Yeah, there's no reason to expect better skins when the default are literally the normal lol

[humble trench]

yeah please let people buy those, with accurate hitbox. easier to hit her with dat ass

[wraith canopy]

And the best is you only see the gloves except on the homescreens hahaha

[fresh cloud]

Plus, the only skins really worth it are for Recon because the Ghillie's look good. I don't really like the Jungle green camo for Assault.... there's barely any green scenery in BF6

[ripe hedge]

So cool skins improve ingame skills?

[wraith canopy]

The green one is for bush campers i guess lol

[fresh cloud]

it improves stealth lol... idk anyone who buys skins in this game because they look cool, but some camos really help stay low.

[wraith canopy]

Yea i really like the nato recon pro one tbh

[fresh cloud]

I hate campers so much in BF6 and BF just encourages it..... people gotta defend their territory, how they gonna do that? camp... lol. the only ones who should be camping are Snipers

[hollow void]

Hey guys need 5 people to start the server Rush with 30 % hp 30 min sector and 300 % tickets . Can anybody join and help please ? Game code zph8u

[fresh cloud]

when are we gonna get psychic weapons?

[wraith canopy]

Yea it sucks. On the other hand it's funny sometimes while playing spec ops so they don't expect you to come by lol. Or destroy the whole place where they camp if possible

[elfin wraith]

Along with the terminator armor and teleportation chambers

[elfin wraith]

More demolition thanks

[fresh cloud]

nah lol, i'm talking about that weapon the US used when capturing Venezuela

[keen inlet]

I mean to be fair if you're going into enemy territory you should assume there's someone around every corner. Some camping is horrible i agree but half the time how else are you suppose to defend? You dig into a spot and hold

[idle spoke]

"aw hell nawl"

[fresh cloud]

i guess, but i wish the whole multiplayer aspect of the game didn't rely on camping and capturing territories lol. The only mode we have where people don't camp is Squad Deathmatch

[safe burrow]

hello to everyone!! Did someone took the rewards from the first bonus battle pass?

[alpine quiver]

This is so false

If you've played the game enough and you're at the very least a decent player you will quickly see all the issues with this game

[sudden chasm]

we don't even have many cosmetics either

[idle spoke]

The ones we have people complain about so idk if we need more haha

[queen pivot]

Double xp event still going ?

Or done

[fresh cloud]

i barely have any issues... like 0... maybe you just have ping issues or it's your specs or even your settings.

[sudden chasm]

unfortunately true, the new stuff isn't the same looking beige and drab so it's automatically bad

[alpine quiver]

If this game didn't have a bad visibility and a sub 200 TTK, campers wouldn't be an issue

[alpine quiver]

I'm talking about the game design

[queen pivot]

Game graphics like black ops 4 very bad lol

[fresh cloud]

my only gripe with the game design is that every mode is a capture the flag variant where you have everyone camping and the only normal mode is Squad Deathmatch.... the modes are super unbalanced

[idle spoke]

Only thing I really would like is them having different defining colors and different languages for the factions

[alpine quiver]

Sub 200 ms TTK, bad designed maps, bad visibility, footsteps audio, lack of skill ceiling mechanicly, vehicule gameplay

[stoic moat]

Why is the AK4 not a DMR? It has literally the same caliber and barrel length as the M14

[queen pivot]

Footsteps Audio horrible on Redsec

[idle spoke]

Thats what battlefield always was tho. The normal mode is conquest and deathmatch is the weird one here.

[alpine quiver]

And that's only a small part of these issues

[queen pivot]

On multi its okay.

[idle spoke]

Not many guns have a sub 200 ms ttk

[queen pivot]

Maps design not good for vehicles tanks getting stuck on somewhere for example.

[brittle trench]

Anyone know how to get battlefield Labs back after I deleted it months ago ? it's not showing up in steam, and the code i originally got doesn't work

[alpine quiver]

And does that mean they should exist

[fresh cloud]

footstep audio has been wonderful for me, the sub 200 ms TTK is only for like 1 or 2 guns and they miss A LOT. Visibility is fine, i can usually spot anyone, the maps are designed pretty good, I never get stuck and spawn points are far enough.

[alpine quiver]

And I'm mainly talking about close quarters TTK

[sudden chasm]

not every game should have really fast ttk

[idle spoke]

Doesnt mean they shouldnt considering there are only six not including shotties that have it at 0m and none at 30m

[queen pivot]

Bro wants to make cod vanguard chaos and spamm kills ttk pretty good

[fresh cloud]

yeah but not every gun needs slow TTK lol, that would turn gunfights into sponge matches

[idle spoke]

Just know your scene really

[sudden chasm]

the current ttk is fine, don't need to make it slower or faster imo at least

[fresh cloud]

exactly

[idle spoke]

Some guns could be adjusted but overall its not bad

[fresh cloud]

i stole a kill from one of my teammates in the middle of a melee animation... do they still get the kill? lmao they finished the animation

[idle spoke]

I dont think they do

[fresh cloud]

damn lol

[upbeat spade]

No they don't

[alpine quiver]

I'm mainly talking about close quarters TTK, which is pretty fast

[fresh cloud]

welp, i feel like shit but that should at least cancel the animation to save time lol. buddy could have been killed during those 3 seconds wasted

[alpine quiver]

BF4 had a fast TTK, but at least it was reactable

[fresh cloud]

the default shotgun is the worst for it but like i said, it's very easy to miss with those QCB loadouts. I play with the KV9 and shotgun... The KV9 and shotgun both have insane TTK but it's easy to miss with the shotgun and really easy to run out of Ammo with the KV9 while trying to hit your target

[alpine quiver]

Even without fighting people with a QCB loadouts the TTK is still very fast in close quarters it doesn't change anything

And fighting for QCB loadout you would most likely play with a SG 553 or SCW 10 and it'll just make it even worse

Even the developpers acknowledges that and they're reworking the TTK

[fresh cloud]

you can make any gun in the game have high TTK, it's not really a problem.

[past jasper]

why run double primary

[alpine quiver]

It is a problem when in close quarters the TTK at sub 200 ms, it reduces the skill ceiling of the game mechanicly. BF4 and BF5 didn't have this problem

[fresh cloud]

because it's easier to switch when i run out of ammo

[past jasper]

unless you have scw10 with hollow point you are not gonna have sub 200ms ttk

[past jasper]

you know when you run double primary you run half the ammo reserve right?

run single primary and you gets normal ammo reserve as everyone else

[modest jackal]

The TR-7 and SG553R have a Max Damage TTK below 200ms.

[idle spoke]

only up to 10m

[past jasper]

TR7 is 166 assuming you dont miss

[idle spoke]

Which sure ig you can complain about that if you only care to shove your gun down someones throat more power to you ig

[past jasper]

which being TR7 means you will probably miss

[fresh cloud]

I’m aware of the reduced reserve. For my setup it doesn’t matter much because I’m playing tight‑range fights where reload downtime gets me killed. KV9 dumps fast, shotgun cleans up, and switching is faster than reloading. Different playstyle, different priorities.

[past jasper]

your swap time is like half the reload time

[fresh cloud]

it really isn't

[modest jackal]

720 RPM with Spread not being an issue until 18m? That's not going to happen all the time.

[past jasper]

have you even played with TR7 and its horrendous recoil

[fresh cloud]

i mean, half the time is better than nothing. sorry, i interpreted your reply wrong at first.

[modest jackal]

Yeah, but if I can somehow deal with the M227, then I can deal with the TR-7.

[worthy cave]

Does the double-primary setup allow any two primaries? I thought the second one was limited to shotguns or something.

[past jasper]

also unless you are playing cqc against guns like scw you are never running into issues with ttk

[idle spoke]

Most my engagements are beyond 10m so the low ttk just doesnt matter to me

[past jasper]

its just when you are doing engagments have a clear path to retreat and you usually wont run into those problem

so if you are out, slide out and reload

also scw10 is better than vector imo

same ammo count with much better ammo economy

[fresh cloud]

i'm usually playing Conquest lol. territories get raided and i don't have time to be running in and out

[modest jackal]

The KV-9 has a tiny Mag with a slow Reload.

[fresh cloud]

exactly, thank you

[past jasper]

which is why scw is better

[dusky spindle]

Is anybody having a problem with steady scope on recon when using DMRs?

[humble trench]

vectors kinda fun to use tho, it goes brap. but it deffo needs the largest mag

[past jasper]

you are getting roughly the same ttk with at least a quater better ammo economy by needing less shots to kill

[fresh cloud]

yeah but i have bigger mag, so i'm not too worried, i get at least 3 kills before having to switch out

[sudden chasm]

it's not that bad

[past jasper]

its not that bad but its recoil is also in the equation while its being balanced

[fresh cloud]

the KV9 has like 0 recoil

[past jasper]

whether recoil is a good balancing metric or not is another story

[past jasper]

so does literally any gun in the game thats not called tr7

[sudden chasm]

not imo, recoil does not work as balancing

[modest jackal]

Nor M277.

[fresh cloud]

i've had recoil problems with plenty of guns

[past jasper]

m277 recoil is fine

[idle spoke]

Everything has recoil some are just really easy to deal with

Besides the ak205 ig that shit hardly pulls at all lmao

[dusky spindle]

Pls disregard this it looks like the devs r aware and hopefully workin on it.

[sudden chasm]

i might start playing with the ak205 more, i've barely played with it

[autumn beacon]

Hii

[sudden chasm]

it's on like mastery 8 for me atm

[past jasper]

205 is only usable with synthetic

[idle spoke]

Its not great for killing but you can keep it on target easy

[past jasper]

with synthetic it have somewhat competitive ttk

but tbh after 50ing out db12 every gun is good at this point

[hardy crest]

Some of the skins Im seeing make me understand the playerbase fall off

[past jasper]

skin is not the cause lmao

[hardy crest]

And the battle pass, whatever the fuck battlefield pro is, etc

[sudden chasm]

if you quit because of a skin, don't play in the first place

[fresh cloud]

all of the LMGs in the game are trash for recoil

[idle spoke]

People came and tried the game and left. There is still over 100,000 players a day so I dont get this fall off shit. People are not allowed to try a game and move on.

[sudden chasm]

rpk, drs and the kts are all low recoil

[past jasper]

wdym

[idle spoke]

Plus initial release numbers will always be inflated for games like this.

[hardy crest]

You’re right, but Im still disappointed

[modest jackal]

That's definitely a Hot Take when I see one.

[idle spoke]

kts is the second best in the game tho

[past jasper]

if you bought the game not kowing that its gonna have skins then you are really living under a rock imo

also none of the skin is that bad

[hardy crest]

Well I thought skins in a game that markets itself like this wouldn’t mean blue super soldier

[modest jackal]

The worst Recoil on a MG is the M123K and even that Gun is manageable to control.

[sudden chasm]

what blue super soldier?

[hardy crest]

Well im just using that as an example, but there’s a BRIGHT blue support skin, and I’ve also seen a terrible vibrant assault skin. What pisses me off the most is the battle pass

[fresh cloud]

if those are all low recoil than that's just garbage lmfaooooo, the recoil is awful on those in default (i haven't tested attachments)

[idle spoke]

Time to return to bf1

[sudden chasm]

they all have 0 recoil

[hardy crest]

Does it still have a solid player count?

[fresh cloud]

maybe with attachments.

[crimson garden]

BF6 = cool Penguin thinks. It still be interesting to see how many drops by to check out Season 2 once it lands 🕊️ 🛬

[tender cradle]

Specifically operations?

[idle spoke]

It has more than 2042,v, 4 or others last I looked

[hardy crest]

Good enough

[idle spoke]

bf1 gained players on steam in january

[sudden chasm]

not even, the kts beams with 0 attachments, same with the rpk

[modest jackal]

Really? I only have a Flash Hider on the M123K and no Grip and I don't really struggle with it.

[sudden chasm]

the drs is a bit wobbly but it is 100% controllable

[idle spoke]

kts literally has the second lowest dispersion in game right behind the ak205

[tender cradle]

Too slow rate of fire

[fresh cloud]

you can't call it 0 recoil when the crosshair moves like a goddamn squirrel

[idle spoke]

It doesnt

[fresh cloud]

for me it does, compared to my KV9 it moves like crazy

[past jasper]

it honestly just sound like a issue of skill at this point tbh

[modest jackal]

True.

[fresh cloud]

skill? dude, i'm in the training range

[tender cradle]

Visual vs physical recoil

[modest jackal]

I can't imagine the M60 being worse to control than the M4.

[past jasper]

1sec let me get on bf6 and show you

[fresh cloud]

isn't visual recoil just as important as physical??

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

@fresh cloud

[fresh cloud]

i'll take a video myself, if there wasn't recoil, i could shoot and all the bullets hit the same spot. I shot at the corner and like 5 shots missed while 1 hit.

[past jasper]

i literally pinged you and link to a video that i just recorded in firing range

[fresh cloud]

either you have attachments on or something is up because mine doesn't look like that. hold up

[past jasper]

there is zero recoil controlling attachments on the gun

20 cost suppressor, heavy ext, 45 fast, synthetic, and blue laser

[fiery oxide]

The selling point of the KTS is that it doesn't move

[fresh cloud]

why can't i post to clips?

[humble trench]

gotta enable a flag on discord somewhere for that afaik

[fiery oxide]

You need the community creations role

[fresh cloud]

i sent it

i was using the RPKM

[past jasper]

first of all thats rpk

second of all you spent zero effort on even trying to control the recoil

[fresh cloud]

well yeah, that's one of the guns that someone said had 0 recoil

that's what i was talking about]

[fresh cloud]

well i mean for 0 recoil weapons, you dont need to control the recoil, it's already controlled

[past jasper]

there is nothing that i can say except that is a issue of skill

[humble trench]

when a lot of people say a weapon literally has no recoil they mean its easy to control (for them), idk why english is so difficult for so many people, i mean its literally against the rules to speak any other language in here aint it

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

at least please try a little

[fresh cloud]

and now i sent a video of my KV9 uncontrolled as well

[past jasper]

i have no words

[idle spoke]

#battlefield-6 message
here is a spreedsheet of weapon stats. Some updates since I last checked, Ak205 still lowest recoil and highest bullets to start dispersion now followed by umg then m240 and kts.

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

the actual recoil pattern of vector

the only reason you are not getting that much "recoil" is that the things die too fast for recoil to kick you off

[sudden chasm]

maybe i should've clarified that the rpk is easy to control for me

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

or you can just pull down a little to negate the recoil

[rugged mango]

ak 205 is only worth using if you like beating yourself up with a hammer

[humble trench]

yeah figured as much, thats alright. i think most weapons have fairly easy to control recoil, some of them do a weird zigzag thing tahts a bit obnoxious to learn. or like the tr7 it kinda does a stairs thing, left/up/left/up etc but that thing has enormous amounts of bloom anyway so u dont even wanna full auto it ever

[fresh cloud]

but that should be normal with guns lol. Controlling recoil sucks ass in this game, it should make sense that you kill something before Recoil takes control, because so many guns lose their target too quickly lol

[past jasper]

then you should play with the gun that i pinged you in screenshots and clips

[idle spoke]

I remember why I stopped playing arcade shooters

[past jasper]

ak205 with lightened and the highest recoil reduction grip

[fresh cloud]

i'll give er' a shot

[humble trench]

lol dont do that

ak205 the troll gun of the game

[past jasper]

with his skill i would argue he needs that gun more than anything else

at least he would be on target with 205

[humble trench]

theres gotta be one with a better TTK profile than the worst gun in teh game lol

[past jasper]

the problem for him is recoil

[rugged mango]

Hopefully they fix the recoil affecting mouse sensitivity issue

And just fix recoil in general

[fresh cloud]

it's just cuz i got bad stickdrift and my mouse+keyboard are dated lol

[humble trench]

wouldnt an L85 or SOR300 be better, low recoil but better TTK profile etc

[past jasper]

you still need to pull down to control recoil on any gun

[humble trench]

the SL9 seems popular of the smg's , i think it practically has no recoil too

[past jasper]

idk i just gave him the gun with least possible recoil

because in his clips he just shoots without controlling recoil in any means, which then the lowest raw recoil would be 205

[fresh cloud]

i'm using a TT commander mouse and a Claymore keyboard. I desperately need new stuff lol

[humble trench]

fair enough. controller not an option to ezmode? if ur not used to a gamepad then thatl be even more of a chore than learning mouse n keyboard but who knows

[vale quiver]

if you semi auto the guns have basicaly no recoil lol

[humble trench]

^ thats the biggest learning curve for most i think. figuring out when bloom kicks in and then just very quickly let go of full auto and go again. bam done, mastered bf6 :P

[vale quiver]

pretty muchj

[sudden chasm]

it's alright IF you play long range

[fresh cloud]

anyone here have problems streaming the game from Streamlabs? it's only picking up bits and pieces of in game audio but barely anything

[idle spoke]

theres a sheet for that

[vale quiver]

back in my day we would Play the game not watch someone els play it

[idle spoke]

ak205 dispersion kicks in after ten bullets
for kts its eight bullets

[humble trench]

yeah not surprised theyre easy lol

[fresh cloud]

Since getting my PC last year, i've stopped watching gaming Youtubers lol. The only game videos i'll watch is to see if the new Indi game releases are good

[near sonnet]

TR-7 seems like best gun, before I looked at any sheets. For assault, controller, who plays to capture. Any alternatives?

[humble trench]

i mean if ur on a controller and youve tried the tr7, literally everything else will be easier

[rugged mango]

Only in cqb

Nah if you use a controller everything’s easier

Controller is move joystick to enemy lets aim assist to its thing and hold RT

[fresh cloud]

i need me one of those rolling mouses

[valid breach]

Yall know how much the player count sunk in comparison to the release just wondering

[rugged mango]

And u get less recoil up to 25-40%

[humble trench]

if u want smt close combat like the tr7 then the meta is like scw10/sg553/m4a1/kv9/what else blasts ppl up close

[rugged mango]

Controller is the superior input in BF6

[idle spoke]

m4a1 is poo poo

[humble trench]

well i did mention close combat :P

i dont like it either but its still a good 0-20 meter weap

[past jasper]

nah

[rugged mango]

Shotguns

[humble trench]

oh yeah theres shotties, but youll be limited in any other range unless u go dual weapon assault

[fresh cloud]

i've destroyed teams with those... (shotguns)

[rugged mango]

Yah

[idle spoke]

Ive used both and they both have their advantages but I really dont see one being better than the other most of the time

[fresh cloud]

a rolling mouse would beat both

[idle spoke]

both just want to complain the other is better

[fringe laurel]

Fix the fucking Mouse input and delay to shoot after a reload

[rich torrent]

The new BP pass is so underwhelming considering the delay we got.

[rough willow]

WWhen is season 2 coming put

[fresh cloud]

tonight

[rough willow]

Huh? u sure?

[rich torrent]

Feb 17th.

[fresh cloud]

umm.... maybe tmrw

[fringe laurel]

You noobs are not outraged that a core mechanic doesn't work. Wtf is wrong with all of you

[rough willow]

feb 17

[rugged mango]

Put it to you like this I aim train everyday and I have good aim but I everyone and then I’m losing a fight to a controller player that I know I should’ve won.

[fresh cloud]

huh? are you in the right chat?

[rugged mango]

I’ll get the person down to like 6 hp and then die

[fringe laurel]

@rugged mango its the per to per delay from console to pc

[fringe laurel]

Im gonna kick my soccer ball in your yard

[rugged mango]

They need to fix that shit cause it’s pissing me off man

[fringe laurel]

Yep got kids going 6-6 winning fights

[idle spoke]

I hear the same argument from the other side tbh

[fresh cloud]

tbf many PC players use controller lol

[vital sonnet]

Hey guys im trying to get a hardcore lobby started.

Title: INSTAKILL 10HP HARDCORE CONQUEST - LARGE MAPS - BOTS BACKFILL

Experience code: zph4j

[rugged mango]

If both sides are complaining the logical solution is to separate the inputs

[idle spoke]

Too many people complain about advantages the other has in an arcade shooter

[rugged mango]

I don’t have any friends that play console and I don’t want to play against console players

[fringe laurel]

I rather they fix the micro adjustment mouse issue and reload shot delay

[fresh cloud]

but can't you also hook up a M&K to PS5? lol

[idle spoke]

Theyll still complain for various reasons itll never end

[idle spoke]

Yea I play with mouse and keyboard on xbox

[rugged mango]

Ah bro gets aim assist lol

[fresh cloud]

so then both have the exact same advantages lol

[fringe laurel]

U better have aa off brosky

[idle spoke]

Thats another reason we just play hardcore

[subtle sluice]

[rugged mango]

Bro plays with aim assist on with that Xbox lol

[sudden chasm]

if you play with mnk on console... you don't get aim assist

[rich torrent]

^

[idle spoke]

Pretty much just go get a controller if its that much better or a mouse and keyboard if thats the issue

[humble trench]

yeah im of the conclusion that the data traveling from console to server to pc is adding an extra X milliseconds, makes the game feel weird. the most extreme situations ive had, both getting killed way too far behind a wall but also have my own bullets deleted from existence and gifted the console player the kill... yeah that happens more against console players. but in general it seems like the servers sometimes have 0.1 to 0.5 sec delayed processing or smt

[idle spoke]

But no one wants to take the time to learn how to play the game the other way

[fringe laurel]

Correct

[sudden chasm]

console mnk sucks anyway compared to raw pc mnk since consoles are on 125hz polling rate and console mnk has much more input delay

[rugged mango]

Correct

[idle spoke]

You can just play hardcore lobbies or lobbies without aim assist

[idle spoke]

bf6 is stuck at 125 polling rn anyway no matter which way you play

[fringe laurel]

@sudden chasm bf6 is interpolating controller input to mouse input still so

[rugged mango]

But I shouldn’t have to do that now should I? That’s the problem

[sudden chasm]

also, why do people treat aim assist like it's the antichrist

[idle spoke]

Its not a problem imo just a personal prefrence

[fresh cloud]

and yet PS5 players get extra features like Gyro lol... but honestly Gyro must suck ass

[sudden chasm]

your game doesn't choose your mouse polling rate, you do through the software of your mouse

[idle spoke]

"shouldnt have to" doesnt apply in an arcade shooter with no ranking

[rugged mango]

It forces 125hz

[fringe laurel]

Arcade shooter with no skill gap

[sudden chasm]

how the fuck

i've never heard of any games doing this

[rich torrent]

DICE lmao.

[idle spoke]

How do you measure skill when most people are playing casually

[sudden chasm]

lmao

[idle spoke]

If you want a competitive setting you should be looking for portal modes anyway

[amber belfry]

anyone else get a black screen when backing out a game

[rugged mango]

Yes

[fresh cloud]

kinda like DOOM (2016) multiplayer lol

[amber belfry]

i see so many ppl state this but i havent seen anyone back it up

[past jasper]

Slugs smh

[humble trench]

still limited 1 shot kill range tho :d but fun to play around with

[fringe laurel]

I played it and dont remember it so yea

[fresh cloud]

Assault class is goddamn tanky lol. they have all the heavy shit. Throwing a stun grenade in a room filled with enemies then clearing them 1 by 1 is the best feeling ever

[past jasper]

What

[humble trench]

if that works for u keep doing it but stun grenades arent particularly good lol

[olive flower]

Why on the battle pass it say free in green on the tiles when you have to fill in all ten points to unlock the i have BF pro i am on level 248 over 10 millon score 35.000 kills i dont get you guys

[fresh cloud]

i need to use stuns to get the incendiary shotgun lol

[humble trench]

thats fair, only time anyone should use them

[fresh cloud]

Cheers ya'll, taking a rip. 🍃 🔥

[tawny brook]

I have a weekly challenge that requires me to get 20 kills or damage assists with recon gadgets??? Come on dice

[fresh cloud]

Get to planting that C-4 BOY

jk lol

[tawny brook]

Wouldn't be such an issue if C4 had a half decent blast radius 😭

[fresh cloud]

it's also wild how good other teams work together compared to how a team works together when i join them. I swear those other teams are bots or some shit by how well connected all the players are lol. i'll be driving a tank behind another tank and 5 enemy players will pull up all with RPGs lmfao

[limpid ermine]

Have the devs made the same mistake again with the pro battle pass? It required 110 "coins" but you can only obtain 85 of them... so its impossible to obtain the last few items?

[past jasper]

C4 blast radius is fine imo

[fresh cloud]

I've had enemies stepping on my C-4, then i set it off and they're barely damaged

[tawny brook]

I don't mind c4 doing little damage to infantry

But then don't give me a challenge that forces me to use it like that

[past jasper]

My experience is that you explode them relatively close they work just fine

[past jasper]

Also claymore

[wary hinge]

gotta love getting liberation peak while rocking a shotgun

[past jasper]

Time for slugs ig

[fresh cloud]

I prefer Manhattan Bridge with a shotgun lol

[wary hinge]

suprisingly managed to get 19 kills with the buckshot. Other kills were with the b36

sense the b36 is goated

[wary hinge]

I mean its not as bad as getting eastwood while having a shotgun

[fresh cloud]

@wary hinge it's time for your fillings

[slender epoch]

c4 down low ha

[wary hinge]

NOooo

[hasty escarp]

Is bf better or bo7?

[wary hinge]

🤷‍♂️ Depends on who you ask. Though most ppl are gonna say bf6 sense its a bf discord server

me personally elden ring is the better shooter game though

[hasty escarp]

Hahahahq

Oke oke

[fresh cloud]

Than you need to give Wendell your Croissant.... and be best friends with him... My son doesn't have a lot of friends.

[wary hinge]

funny how there is a actual elden ring mod where your just driving a tank

looks so stupid shooting a random npc with a tank shell

[worn estuary]

Is there a support site for BF6 this is outrageous

[wary hinge]

id rather die

then give away my croissant 😠

[fresh cloud]

either the Croissant gets it, or Judy gets it.

[limpid ermine]

This or EA support website. Which is worse... atleast sometimes you hear something. If I think back in the BF3 and 4 days, you heard nothing

[wary hinge]

[worn estuary]

It for the game, literally shutdown for no reason without errors tried everything to play more than two rounds

[olive flower]

Why write FREE on the tile and the make you ern the 10 battle point dont buy BF pro its meaningless

[limpid ermine]

Does anything show in eventvwr?

[worn estuary]

Nothing just full shutdown like I exited the game

[fresh cloud]

i'm just realizing this now Crash Nebula is basically just Ultralord lmao

[limpid ermine]

have you tried to reinstall the game?

[worn estuary]

Yeah and to verify the files

[limpid ermine]

And when you double click BF6 absolutly nothing happens?

[worn estuary]

Nothing

[fresh cloud]

what are your specs?

[limpid ermine]

Damn, has it ever ran?

[tender cradle]

Not really, physical recoil is the actual change in the crosshair between shots.

Visual recoil is the what the player sees in the screen shaking and gun moving

[wary hinge]

ngl you know I play assault to much when the role preference is just a super large spike all the way to assault and all the other preferences have nothing

[fresh cloud]

my spike has been on Engineer since launch, and for the past month and a half, i've been playing Assault so, i'm not sure why it isn't changing

holy shit... my computer desk is dusty asf.... time for a cleanup

[worn estuary]

Got a 6700xt using a Ryzen 3900

[worn estuary]

I get like two rounds in then it quits

[fresh cloud]

Yeah that setup should run it fine. Does it crash with any error, or just poof to desktop? Could be drivers or a corrupted install

[limpid ermine]

So it DOES run?

[fresh cloud]

check how hot your PC gets when it crashes with the task manager

[worn estuary]

Yes

[limpid ermine]

In that case there should absolutely be either something in eventvwr or in the log files. If that is not the case then I suspect something it either misfiring in your PC (expect a BSOD at somepoint) or your PC might be overheating

[fresh cloud]

yeah, i'm thinking he might need new thermal pasting

[worn estuary]

Man idk, it been crazy since the update

[limpid ermine]

Could be. Have you @worn estuary ran an other games which require high CPU load?

[worn estuary]

No this is probably my high cpu game I have

[limpid ermine]

Since the update my game is also rather spotty. But that is because I 1) run older hardware 2) it seems that discord and BF6 are fighting for resources

[limpid ermine]

And other AAA games?

[fresh cloud]

sometimes thermal pasting is applied wrong by the manufacturer (or if built personally) and could lead to a burnt core, which in turn causes processing issues.

[trim mist]

what maps has access to all air vehicles?

[fresh cloud]

check your cores, ckeck everything.. make sure nothing is out of the ordinary

[limpid ermine]

If its a core overheating then windows should log it in eventvwr.

[worn estuary]

That what I was thinking as well

[fresh cloud]

and you've tried to reinstall? ah, yeah, i just looked at past msgs

[limpid ermine]

Just to make sure. in Eventvwr you have selected "Windows Logs" -> "System"?

[fresh cloud]

it might actually just be AMD with their newest driver... you may have to do a rollback

YEP

[fresh cloud]

It's definitely AMD

[limpid ermine]

yea? where did you find it?

[fresh cloud]

i'll send a pic

[worn estuary]

I found the error now, it the stupid anticheat that causing the issue

[fresh cloud]

goddamn it lol

[worn estuary]

I really hate anticheats sometimes

[fresh cloud]

dude.... i thought i found de way

[limpid ermine]

Welp thats your problem (most likely). Best thing to remember if you updated anything and then you experience issues revert that

[worn estuary]

make sense I will do that

[limpid ermine]

Well it can still be anticheat with combination of a recent AMD patch. If the patch doesnt play nicely with kernel anticheat....

[stoic moat]

One question:
When you pick up a loadout of a fallen soldier in the field, do the class challenges track for that class?
I just picked up a support and smoked every enemy objective but didnt get a single smoke assist in the end.

[fiery oxide]

They should track afaik

[fresh cloud]

anyone here do a 360 no scope yet?

[polar stratus]

Normal Conquest All maps Live now!!!

Code: ZPFRU

[limpid ermine]

almost did it with a throwing knife. To be fair it was a hardcore server so does it count yea no idk. Dont thing it was a full 360

[limpid ermine]

its such a shame that EA has forced us to create server this way to form a "community"... Where are the good old days where a community server meant that you joined a group of active players and got to know whem because you where able to join them countless times

[fresh cloud]

you should try making it up the wall in Avalanche lol