battlefield-6

[languid mural]

it's called queueing blackwell fields and opening up chat lule

[tight prism]

I refuse to open up game chat because I won’t be able to resist to say something bannable

[frozen comet]

Don't worry they only ban in discord

[hollow totem]

Sure, but they are over 20kgs therefor only used in very special circumstances, not a battlefield

[frozen comet]

I mean, like the deployable cover we already have?

Or the ladder? Those ain't 2kg

[hollow totem]

Nah it's made out of cardboard, since a fly can stop a bullet

[languid mural]

yeah realism argument doesnt hold up that well in battlefield, its arcade'y as hell, as long as its military then its fair game

[frozen comet]

Hypersonic ammo getting stopped by plywood has to be the biggest farce in this game

[hollow totem]

I mean, the covers and ladders still fall in the realism more than shields since those are still realistically going to be used and game just skips the time it would take to bring it there/set up.

But either way, shields just sound like they would be too strong idk

Even if you limit shield + secondary only, unless you hinder the movespeed a lot or smth

[languid mural]

not really, I mean idk how it was in bf4 because I only played 3 and 2042, but in 2042 you could just shoot someones legs if they were running, shoot grenade launcher at their feet, penetrate it with high pen guns
trickstab them or just slide past them as they were running at you
it was pretty fun and there werent a lot of people doing it

[pine torrent]

Bring back F35 from 2042

VTOL was chaos but fun chaos

[languid mural]

I mean, same kinda gimmick as thrust vectoring currently is, looks cool but not very useful, so why not

they should take a gander at air vehicles in general tbh

[frozen comet]

They can add thrust vectoring by forgot how to pause a reload animation

[fallen forum]

bf1 style perks or training paths?

[languid mural]

how do bf1 perks work?

[pine torrent]

Honestly idk how viable would it be but in battlefront 2 2017 they had these massive vehicles think AT TEs and the like / scripted objectives like destroying specific ships etc maybe could bring that to BF6

[copper jungle]

How to level up fast ? I don’t play PvP modes just casual breakthrough.

[frozen comet]

Bf1 shouldn't have had perks

[pine torrent]

Imagine 5 players In a AC-130

[languid mural]

do weekly assignments, if its something hard just reroll it, it usually gives easier objective

[frozen comet]

Bunch of silly ones then a couple really good ones. You choose three.

[fallen forum]

you got 3 slots, some perks (the good ones) are class exclusive and others (the mediocre ones) are universal

[copper jungle]

Ok, now I’m bond to make £5 from the bet hehe.

[languid mural]

gl

[copper jungle]

ty

[languid mural]

I think Im fine with the training paths, I just wish there were more of them

[fallen forum]

i think modern games should've adopted perks and the historical ones kept training paths

[pine torrent]

I think you’re cooking with this, perks + editable soldiers >>> skins and training paths imo

[plush charm]

bro what is this reddit challenge crap "you answered the call"
what? no i didn't, buddy i just logged into the game for my one match a day because bf6 is in the process of being absolutely fumbled

thanks for the 30 min xp booster tho, GG

[tribal zodiac]

Guess we'll see if it lets me stream tomorrow

[pine torrent]

imagine if we could swap camos/ equipment in the soldiers like in space. Marine 2/ older battlefields

[granite igloo]

The Bfv character customization system it had was cool

[plush charm]

let me put a grenade pouch and crotch armor plate carrier on my sniper man
it's not a big ask to have a small handful of customization options

[languid mural]

my recon having a smoke nade on his chest but they took it away in game hahahahah

[plush charm]

lol, right

[pine torrent]

Yeah maybe not arma level customization but stuff like being able to pick you plate carrier/ vest helmet maybe ear pros camo uniform gender skin tone etc

[granite igloo]

That would’ve been great

[plush charm]

yea keep it simple

[fallen forum]

tbh i just dislike training paths, but i understand why the historical shooters having them is better (i don't think historical soldiers were able to customize their kits as much as soldiers today)
like the combat medic not being able to drag revive in 1.5 seconds until an arbitrary point in the match just means i almost always defib revive

[languid mural]

and its like, the only useful nade too
frag and incens are okay (incen still being only for support)
and the rest are just garbage
I lov e it

[granite igloo]

I wish assault had fire nades too, the fire launcher it has is trash

I hate you autocorrect

[languid mural]

I wish stun nades or flash did anything

[pine torrent]

I think you’d be surprised standardization is much more of a 20th/21st century thing outside of SOF, in WW1/WW2 soldiers made a lot of “it just works TM” designs and field modifications

[plush charm]

we're also talking about a game where the "AI" bots have the same level of advancement as games made in 1999
so we have to keep our expectations kinda low

[fallen forum]

i think assault should get a recoil reduction when they use the undermounted launcher

[languid mural]

I dont think... the mount launcher has any...

[fallen forum]

that's what i mean

[plush charm]

i have enjoyed what we have as a nice first offering, need to see a little more tho if they aren't going to put the effort into the things that literally every player engages with

[fallen forum]

assault exclusively should get a small recoil reduction when using undermounted launchers as another class bonus

[languid mural]

but the undermounted launchers dont have recoil

[fallen forum]

i mean on the main weapon they're mounted to

[languid mural]

oh okay

[fallen forum]

because there's no reason to ever swap the ribbed stubby for anything

[pine torrent]

IMO assault should get a faster regen/out of combat as a perk to make it viable

[languid mural]

it does... its called frontliner

[fallen forum]

unless you're a slim angled anarchist

[pine torrent]

It feels kinda slow tho

[languid mural]

Im running slim angled (I think, its some type of angled)

[fallen forum]

adrenaline needs a buff, ideally it should be faster to use and provide health regen of some kind

[languid mural]

nah, if you have it levelled its basically same if not faster than the support regen, you just need to spam lying down to get rid of suppression and stuff

[granite igloo]

👆 👆

[tight prism]

Slim angled has better ads speed

[fallen forum]

it's the same as ribbed stubby

[languid mural]

the adrenaline injector makes you more resistant to stuns and flashes because it already blinds you when youre using it

[pine torrent]

That name sounds so dirty LOL

[tight prism]

Correction. Draw speed. And it’s cheaper

[fallen forum]

slim angled has better draw speed, as well as costing 5 points less, but you miss out on some recoil control

[languid mural]

no such thing as recoil in my m4a1

[tight prism]

I tried both didn’t notice a difference so I went cheaper lol

[tight prism]

Definitely notice the difference with the 20pt blue laser I started trying out.

[fallen forum]

even if it's a minute difference, my thought process is that it adds up
also what am i supposed to spend the other 5 points on? fast mags?

[pine torrent]

Wait so 6H64 fell out of meta?

[languid mural]

fast mags are clutch

[tight prism]

It’s the only vertical I would use.

[fallen forum]

i'm a support player using the drs mainly

[ripe hedge]

🦇

[languid mural]

fair enough, I just play m4a1
a lot

[tight prism]

If you can control recoil use ribbed or slim angled for better ads speed and accuracy

[fallen forum]

the issue is that you also need the blue lazer

[pine torrent]

M4 is the thanos of guns for me “where did your failure bring you back to? Back to me” lol

[languid mural]

yea true hahahah, if I ever feel bad with my performance I go back to ol reliable

[fallen forum]

unless you're support and can drop deployable cover and start mounting for every gunfight

[pine torrent]

Also mastery skin looks lit on the M4 shame no gold housing for blue lazer

[languid mural]

I do that with fire support KTS

[tight prism]

Lightened suppressor. Ribbed or slim angled and 20pt blue laser are becoming my favorite combo. Long suppressor if I need to save points

[fallen forum]

worse weapon sway 💔

wait my bad i thought you said long suppressor

[tight prism]

I don’t notice a sway difference on the long either 🤷‍♂️

[pine torrent]

If you like laser M4 there’s also the 35 point vertical can’t recall its name

[tight prism]

Classic

Classic vertical is best recoil attachment but you tank your ads speed so you better be ads all the time

[fallen forum]

i use lightened suppressor, 20 mw green, ribbed stubby, and a 2x sight on the drs

[fallen forum]

it doesnt?
it just keeps it as usual

[tight prism]

Still enough points for extended barrel?

[languid mural]

I dont run the laser, too much brain power usage on turning it off n on so I dont get unnecessarily spotted
just slim angled fast magged extended and I dont remember what suppressor, but the one that has no downsides except hip fire being worse

[fallen forum]

oh yeah i forgot
heavy extended too
i forgot to add it since it doesn't cost points lol

[pine torrent]

Hear me out red laser

[fallen forum]

unless you're camping a corner people won't see it

[reef bolt]

sway penalty only applies if you hardscope

[tight prism]

My logic is if you are fighting close quarters where the enemy sees you anyway the laser visibility doesn’t matter. Having the hipfire accuracy is worth it

[pine torrent]

Yeah if I’m not running recon I’d agree if I’m running recon with a suppressor I pick red and compensate with barrel/attschment

[fallen forum]

hipfiring first, ads-ing second, can save you in a close quarters fight

did all previous battlefield games have 3d spotting?

[tight prism]

Yes I already found out that I’m no longer losing panic fights where someone comes around a corner on me and I pull the trigger in surprise lol.

[languid mural]

nah I ads anyway, the 167 ms zoom in is just mmmm

[fallen forum]

because if they did, why is suppressor meta only a problem in bf6?

[pine torrent]

If you like playing dirty get the blue/green laser and keep it on in a choke point when you hear an enemy approach strafe a bit and turn off the laser then ADS gets most bot tier players every time lol

[languid mural]

it was in bf2042, so idk tbh

[harsh jay]

Not sure if I remember right but I think stats were worse

[tight prism]

That the maintain accuracy trick I’ve heard about even with laser off?

[pine torrent]

Psy-ops most players see laser as a cue so if you turn off and fake sprint they think you’re repositioning

And they rush/think you turned your back

[hollow totem]

Idk I always anticipate them still being there

[pine torrent]

You’re a good player then lol

A lot of people just rush corridors / entryways

[fallen forum]

wdym?

[tight prism]

I will be honest I’m not sure I have ever noticed a laser on an enemy. Very difficult to see

[hollow totem]

Or rather, I anticipate that the initial player mightve left but there might still be someone else

[languid mural]

why anticipate, just slide in and let your g-fueled blood drive you to the kills

[fallen forum]

they're only noticeable if someone is corner camping, like literally right next to the corner
otherwise all you might see is the dot where they're pointing

[tight prism]

And I think you can’t even see the dot past 15 meters

[harsh jay]

I think weapon performance was worse with suppressor in BF3/4 than now but it's been a while so I could be remembering it wrong

[exotic maple]

or if you're on conquest just use an armored vehicle as a siege engine lol

go full warhammer 40k

[languid mural]

no can do, theres a guy just sitting in the middle between the spawn and the closest point doing nothing with the tank

[exotic maple]

shame best tank plays are either mid-range sniping or going full warhammer 40k siegelord if you have infantry to watch your back

[fallen forum]

if anything, i think the point system also contributes to suppressor meta
the most important thing is staying hidden, so your most expensive attachment is likely to be a suppressor, thus limiting what you can do with your build

[hollow totem]

Tbf, tanking isnt easy

[languid mural]

also, the fact that theres a clear difference when youre being shot at without a suppressor and with
namely
I cannot tell shit when someones shooting at me with a suppressor beside the fact that Im getting shot at

[exotic maple]

I think flash hider is enough unless you really care about the dorito

[fallen forum]

i would make ironsights, standard barrels, and standard mags all free, thus effectively adding 25 points for players to use
this wouldn't fix reliance on suppressors, but would make suppressors less build defining

[fallen forum]

recoil control as well

[tight prism]

Suppressor removes the damage direction indicator

[hollow totem]

Sound. Sound is more important than getting spotted on the minimap

[languid mural]

yep, thats it

[exotic maple]

but if you're in total CQB speed demon mode does sound really matter though? unless you're a sniper

[hollow totem]

Because bad players wont see the minimap anw, but they have a 50/50 hearing you

[languid mural]

I for one would make iron sights usable first, idk why they messed it up that shooting with iron sights takes away my ability to see anything, buuuuut I used to like iron sights on pistols
now I genuinely cant use them

[sonic lintel]

still spots within 15m anyway

[tight prism]

I run suppressor on everything. Usually lightened. There’s a few guns I use the long on. I use the cqb on smgs

[fallen forum]

most people are playing conquest

[hollow totem]

Yes, less chances to get randomly flanked. Or if you are coming from the back you suddenly make that 5 kill one clip engagement possible, rather than getting 3 and then them turning around

[languid mural]

that is true, with suppressor as long as you dont shoot the guy, he wont turn around

[exotic maple]

oh yeah but then you've got other issues

[tight prism]

75m unless it’s the flash hider which is 15m. Never mind that’s what you said lol

[languid mural]

so many 1/2 kill -> death scenarios turned into free 3-5 kills because they just dont know

[sonic lintel]

i was talking about the suppressor as well. you still get spotted within 15m on the mini map

[exotic maple]

I need to give it a try then whats the best M4 suppresor?

[hollow totem]

And yeah lightened suppressor solidifies the meta even more, as the recoil alone is worth the 30 points by itself

[sonic lintel]

lightened suppressor for 99% of your guns

[tight prism]

Yes. The flash hider actually spots you to 75m. The suppressors are 15m

[exotic maple]

thanks

[languid mural]

I think all of them are good tbh, I dont remember which one Im running rn
can send the build later

[sonic lintel]

75m is just so insane

[tight prism]

Only worth it on snipers

[fallen forum]

honestly i think 3d spotting should be tied to the recon gadget, if we wanna really fix suppressor meta
you only get insta 3d spotted while shooting if you're within the recon's microphone

[hollow totem]

That's just the minimap cap for seeing players on the map, even if spotted by others

[languid mural]

reminds me of the decoy wallhack
mmmm so nice

[sonic lintel]

yeah, lowk though ive entered my unc era and im now running flash hiders and no skins just to feel like a solider. been larping HARD

[fallen forum]

wait is flash hider bad?

[hollow totem]

You only care about 30-60m indicators anw, somewhere around that range because further information will be kinda useless

[tight prism]

On close quarters you are still visible on the map.

[sonic lintel]

most optimal is a supp on everything but close range sniping

[hollow totem]

Not that it's bad, it's just that every other attachement is significantly inferior to suppressors

[languid mural]

me with my angled no suppressor m2010 because Im running it with weapon sling M4 on assault

[harsh jay]

Imo they should import Blasco's device from 2042 for recon

[fallen forum]

weapon sling ruins your ammo reserves, don't use it

unless you're on mic with a buddy playing support

[languid mural]

nah, everyone else plays support so you just pick up the weapon kit of a player you kill and drop the bag for yourself

[hollow totem]

Every gun build (except for snipers/meta DMR's) should start with lightened suppressor as a base imo, even if that means no grip

[fallen forum]

that's a lethargic solution

[languid mural]

3 mags with m4 and 3 mags for sniper and pistol is enough to get at least one dude who plays support killed

[exotic maple]

so M277 lightened suppressor lazer 25 round combo?

[languid mural]

weapon sling makes you thanos, so I'd take it anyway

[hollow totem]

I dont run lasers at all, but that's more subjective

[fallen forum]

the issue is grinding a weapon to that point

[languid mural]

the humble level 160 m4a1

[fallen forum]

what do you do with the extra 10 points, please tell me

all i can think of is fast mags + rail cover

[harsh jay]

I feel like sparing 10 for red one is always worth it

[hollow totem]

I just ADS even at 10m

[tight prism]

I try to use at least a red for enough hipfire boost for the up close surprise corner attack

And it also eliminates the hipfire to ads bloom penalty

[fallen forum]

i always use 10pt green over red

[harsh jay]

Same tho I'm trying to get used to start with hipfire before ads kicks in

[hollow totem]

I can see myself sparing 10 pts on red, but I'd never run green. It's just too big of a disadvantage imo. I could consider blue one

[fallen forum]

kinda a shame how thermal scopes are so good but you can never find the points to use them

[hollow totem]

I dont like thermals outside sniping tbh

[tight prism]

I’ve had multiple people tell me the green is more visible than blue in game

[hollow totem]

A bit too disorientating imo, you lose detail

[languid mural]

I wanna unlock thermal on KTS for battle royale purpose but its so hard to have a good game for it in regular play

[hollow totem]

It very much so is, that's just due to how our brains work

[harsh jay]

I could only see it as defender on breakghrough. Support with thermal and bipod lol

[languid mural]

unless its like siege of cairo mode other than conquest theres not a lot of chokepoints to be held

[fallen forum]

i find it nice to have something bright to shoot at

[fallen forum]

kts is not a chokepoint weapon

[languid mural]

I will be using my long range accurate LMG to hold down the choke thank you

[fallen forum]

atleast not on cairo

kts is the best countersniper on blackwell fields

[fallen forum]

really? i always find blue to be more blinding

[languid mural]

nah, if I wanna counter snipe I just get the sniper, but also, on blackwell I dont even wanna play infantry, I just get into the air vehicles

[hollow totem]

Or a DMR, you straight up cant countersnipe with regular guns unless the person is bad

[harsh jay]

Blackwell gonna get bunch of sandbags in future. 2042 treatment kappa

[rich torrent]

Blackwell goated

[sonic lintel]

eugh

[fallen forum]

tbh i never stay in the same place for too long otherwise the predictable will happen
it is just nice to find a neglected spot where you can see snipers and just collect headshots

also with the QD grip pod it's shockingly accurate even when not mounted

[harsh jay]

If they do ever rework Blackwell, think it could get some underground stuff

[rich torrent]

People just don't know how to play it.

[sonic lintel]

breakthrough orrr

[languid mural]

dont you play tank

[rich torrent]

In general but yes, especially BT.

[frozen comet]

Play it from nato side

[rich torrent]

I do literally everything.

[harsh jay]

Breakthrough Blackwell is far better than conquest

[fallen forum]

is breakthrough playable though

[sonic lintel]

yeah that’s why i asked

[rocky fossil]

Are EA servers down ?

[languid mural]

I dont think its possible to hold first few points on blackwell and its borderline impossible to lose on the last defense

[rich torrent]

It is now.

[languid mural]

tho the holding first point is just due to half the team "sniping" on the other side of the map

[frozen comet]

[fallen forum]

the SPAAG should be called a SPAAG and not a AAA

[rich torrent]

BT Blackwell on attack has a nasty flank but literally no one ever does it.

[fallen forum]

i didn't answer because i didn't know

[rich torrent]

Right?

[fallen forum]

what's more fun; mirak or sinai from bf1
both are basically the same layout wise but in different time periods

[languid mural]

man, breakthrough is something else
I was like "yeah sure they should add vehicles to attack so it isnt so miserable" and then lib peak last defense I still dont remember tank having any impact, but at least now the first two points are suffering because I got 2 of them pushing

[dusk sandal]

Question, chat: does the base ammunition still count towards the 100-point limit? Like, ammo, unchanged, still costs 5 points out of a hundred?

[rich torrent]

I'd say Mirak due to that one flag on Sinai out in the desert all by itself and essentially no cover.

It was annoying to get to so people didn't bother but whoever had it essentially won the game.

[harsh jay]

Yea

[fallen forum]

yes unfortunately

[dusk sandal]

Well shite 😭

[fallen forum]

the 100 point system is a lie, you only really have 75 to work with

[harsh jay]

No such thing as 0 point build

[languid mural]

and then some attachments can cost up to 50 points

[fallen forum]

lowest point build
10- basic barrel
5- ironsights
5- basic ammunition
5- basic magazine

[harsh jay]

Lmg mags lol. I wouldn't even pay 20

[fallen forum]

and most gun's factory default cost like 40 points with a proper sight + flash hider

[fallen forum]

you'll also be adsing those without the support lmg ads bonus

[languid mural]

yeah I dont get why they decided THAT needs so much points
as if going from 50-100 is a massive change that needs that much dedication

Id argue I'd rather see the SCW 10 round extension have 50 points slapped to it

[harsh jay]

10 extra rounds on AR is far better and cheaper than extra 100 on lmg

[languid mural]

yeah they are acting as if 50 more rounds is gonna give you the equivalent in kills

[fallen forum]

the only reasonable lmg mag increase is the m240

[languid mural]

yeah, considering SCW's supposed weakness is the lack of ammo

[fallen forum]

it's probably also being balanced around br, where taking down multiple dudes at once basically necessitates an lmg to do so without reloading

[languid mural]

if there isnt an SCW nerf I will be making a propaganda copypasta

[languid mural]

nah, you can do that with 30 round carbine as well, and with LMGs, even in BR youre not gonna be shooting at so many dudes for long enough where youll be needing the extra ammo badly

[fallen forum]

well i dont play br so i'll take your word

i played OG warzone back in covid where 60 round ARs were meta

[languid mural]

yeah KTS is king there and while it does have to do a little with the ammo, its the fact that you can just reliably spray people down at range

while M4 could also do 2 full plated people with one mag, you just wont hit those shots

[hollow totem]

BR has different damage numbers compared to non redsec

Cuz of the plates

[languid mural]

do you think theyll add little bird to existing maps or just slap it on the new ones

[tropic horizon]

slap on new is my guess

but they might add it on big map escalations like firestorm

[hot shoal]

The discourse around this game rn is insane ngl, literally every comment section is just begging to just port bf3/bf4 maps in mass just so they struggle less and just get content out faster. Like, I dont understand how a series thats been running for over 2 decades is still in states like this

[languid mural]

I mean, I kinda understand it, since they moved the release a year early just to avoid GTA6 release, but like, since they decided that, they should be drastic with the changes and not drip-feed them

and they did change stuff from the beta, but like, they just left it there like that and well, now the goodwill of community is gone

[hot shoal]

Or just be self aware too, like portal could bridge the content gap alot and help them rn. People have already done really good mode renditions/maps that could really shake up core play. But they dont do anything with it, there just lost to obscurity since nobody checks theres

[languid mural]

portal servers are bad, and the UI is so atrocious its no wonder no one checks there
I dont click anything thats not the custom search option because it just feels bad

[hot shoal]

Yeah pretty much

The only solution is really just shove it where the main content is, for any actual visibility

[reef bolt]

theyre a small indie team, you gotta cut them some slack

[hot shoal]

😂

[languid mural]

even when they did that, it was some RPG carts with AI generated icon, and while I know its not on them... really?

[hot shoal]

Yikes

Yep

[languid mural]

huh

[sour venture]

watch this from 1:50:00 onwards for some good flight combat and complete air dominance 😎 https://youtube.com/live/xWuSedoWFYs?feature=share

[hot shoal]

😂

They did it again

[rich torrent]

Doesn't matter how old the series is when the developers are for the most part completely different.

[hot shoal]

Ok, the devs know how to make a map from sight right? Do we need the exact same devs from bf3/bf4 for people who's job is literally to make a map to just model over existing work?

[rich torrent]

We need less remasters, not more.

[hot shoal]

Alright well, the situation rn is not cutting it. And literally by majority of people discourse over maps. At least half is displeasing. I think its time to take from the vault, and just keep bringing maps back

[rich torrent]

We're never going to have chances at getting great, memorable maps if we keep back tracking to maps we have already bought. Keep in mind, we've paid for Operation Firestorm three times now and it's still heavily hated.

[hot shoal]

They didnt even bring back firestorm properly though? They shrunk the map

[rich torrent]

It's still the same map, don't try to justify their decision.

[harsh jay]

I think remaking old maps with some changes like second assault in BF4 is far better than 1:1 remaster. But even then there shouldn't be more than few

[hot shoal]

Justify what? Im saying it was a bad move

If you bring back a map, leave the sizing alone

[rich torrent]

Regardless of if they cut the map boundries or not, we've paid for the map three times now.

Remasters are lazy cash grabs.

[keen reef]

when do we actually get an update?

[rich torrent]

Content wise, Feb 17th.

[keen reef]

could be worse, okay

[hot shoal]

I get what you are trying to say, in a perfect world. We'd get old maps for free and only pay for new, unfortunately the world isn't like this. But do you want more blackwell fields? Cause I dont

[rich torrent]

BF6 maps aren't great, their just okay but for every remaster we get - is another chance missed at a great, memorable map. I have a pure hatred for remasters, wether that is games or content within games.

It's like the Little Bird for example, it's base content that's been cut to take a spot of "new content" so they don't actually have to make new content.

[harsh jay]

If you remove oil rigs, copy paste trees and some houses on Blackwell you get far beter map

[languid mural]

if my grandma had wheels she'd been a bike
unfortunately, they cant seem to grasp what makes a map enjoyable

[hot shoal]

So where is the memorable map at all though, to justify never getting the best old maps. Cause coping for a new memorable map when these days, you are hard pressed just to get an good enough above average map. Just isn't good logic at all

[rich torrent]

My point is, for every lazy remaster - we have one less chance at that map. More chances of legitmately NEW maps means more chances of getting that memorable map.

[hot shoal]

I mean either way no season will be just bf3/bf4 maps, so this counterpoint doesn't hold alot. I mean you still constantly gonna get new bf orginals. The problem is, for the sake of interest. When you go into any vid talking about bf6, and in mass its people literally begging just for more bf3/bf4 maps. There is a huge problem, at that point many people dont see worth it what new "orginal creative" map bf6 can make. And its definitely coming from a definitive reason. Many people dont care for a possible "new orginal" memorable map. They just dont

[cloud pecan]

All I want to know is when will we get 128 Conquest back?

[languid mural]

on these maps? god I hope not

[harsh jay]

Empire State 128 players lmao

[cloud pecan]

🤣

[rich torrent]

People are sheep to bad opinions though, just look at how many people buy into and get hyped for buying Nuketown for what, the 8th time now?

[pastel shell]

Turnover

[languid mural]

the thing is, people would rather have a guaranteed map thats proven works (so a decent remaster) than a gamble between blackwell fields and a potentially great new map

[hot shoal]

Whats so bad about liking a map so much to do that though? It's not like they just straight port the thing, they do new work for it for a new game (Looks as well). If anything shouldn't it seem endearing?

[languid mural]

theres just no confidence based on the current original maps

[rich torrent]

If we focused on remasters for the whole series, we wouldn't have half the great maps we've played throughout titles.

[hot shoal]

This 100%

[rich torrent]

Why would I want to play a map for another 4 years after playing it for 8 years?

[hot shoal]

I mean..... I dont see anyone asking for 2042 maps?

[rich torrent]

They are out there lmao.

Like I said, if the focus was always remasters, we wouldn't have the great maps for BF3 and BF4 cause we'd be remastering maps from titles before that.

[hot shoal]

Some people having been playing the same game for a decade man, idk what else to explain for that. Some things can be that good, and people play and do the same thing for that long

[exotic maple]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, bring back locker and metro

going deaf from dozens of exploding greandes >>>> new maps cmv

[rich torrent]

And how do you think we got good maps like that?

Definitely not be recycling and selling the same content.

[pastel shell]

Cause its a good map.
Simple as

[hot shoal]

^

[rich torrent]

@pastel shell

[hot shoal]

Even bf4 had maps from old, its just what you do. Keep the best maps alive

[languid mural]

I'd rather have the infantry meatgrinder simulator metro than vehicle camping in spawn blackwell fields
and considering people are already re-making these things in portal, well

[cinder ore]

@uncut jetty Mute everyone expect TOW, people complain too much.

[languid mural]

lmao

[hot shoal]

🤣

[rich torrent]

What a lad.

[pastel shell]

Dont care.
The original maps for 6 are overly safe in their layout. I have no confidence theyd be willing to make something distinct unless its already a proven layout. This wouldn't be a discussion if 6 maps were good

[exotic maple]

AM I the only one who loved the warhammer 40k style massacre in metro/locker

Maybe its because I love WH40K but it felt kinda epic

[reef bolt]

what if dice pulls a cod mobile and just puts literally everything in bf6

[hot shoal]

To even 2042 credit they worked on some of the maps to make it better lol. Like sobek city for example can actually be saved, its whole actual layout was basically cut in half. Same for Manhattan bridge too, layout was just halfed

[pastel shell]

2042 maps are still mostly terrible

[languid mural]

I like going into 5 people, and if I die instantly I die, if I get a marauder I get a marauder
I like the meatgrinders
Im not against big maps with vehicles, but when theyre just sitting somewhere hitting me for splash damage behind 3 walls and I can do nothing about it then its just not fun

[hot shoal]

True, but just saying

[languid mural]

I wonder if they will polish up the game in these few months or it will just be battlepass with one map and thats it

[hot shoal]

Well, there is a strong suspicion. An bf4 map is coming in the next season, the other map i guess will be new

[crisp scroll]

Im a very good gunner, have marauder 23 on transport heli. Looking for a good pilot in EU. add or dm me.

[topaz plinth]

Is tow arguing with someone again

[topaz plinth]

-# Ay don't mute me either 😔

[true tapir]

are there still mouse issues

[rich torrent]

Why can't it be someone arguing with me again?

I can't help that people are always wrong. 😕

[rich torrent]

The anti cheat got updated today so hopefully not.

[topaz plinth]

I know I know 🤧

[true tapir]

oooooo

[topaz plinth]

Why the chat so dead 😔

[rich torrent]

I know hey, I disappeared for an hour and came back to like 4 messages.

I wanna Discord PvP. 💔

[topaz plinth]

Tow do you want to argue 🤧🤧💔

[subtle sluice]

🤔

[cinder ore]

People from eu are at work

[topaz plinth]

Oh look everyone is back

[subtle sluice]

No

Lmao

[true tapir]

i pray no mouse issues

[topaz plinth]

According to a crunchy cat, we want no more mouse issues

[subtle sluice]

Use a controller

Issues fix

[rich torrent]

Legal aim bot.

[subtle sluice]

Fr

[rich torrent]

We need Mike back.

[topaz plinth]

For research purposes
Where's Mike

[subtle sluice]

Kinda hard when you say it out loud

[topaz plinth]

🤣 🙏🏻

[subtle sluice]

Poor mike

[rich torrent]

Great minds think alike.

[topaz plinth]

I think he left
Oh mikeyyyyyyy poooooo
I have a question about the amount of players in the gameeeeeeeeeeee

[subtle sluice]

Who mike ?

[rich torrent]

Mike's gone. 💔

[inland nymph]

It's interesting seeing the leaks as the m4 variant that appears is the URG - I variant.

[topaz plinth]

Hey Mike 😆

[subtle sluice]

The what what now ?

[rich torrent]

Tried to claim BF6 didn't have millions of sales and then kept moving the goal posts of his argument to be right and still kept being wrong.

[subtle sluice]

Oh boi

[topaz plinth]

The URG what I variant huh?

[inland nymph]

There's a small leak showing the m4a2 which is the m4 upper receiver group - improved. It is an odd one. Look it up!

[frozen comet]

😩

[inland nymph]

I will dm. Nvm I cannot.

[subtle sluice]

Im so confuse

[topaz plinth]

Same

[topaz plinth]

No no... You're good in the public chat

[inland nymph]

Yeah though with how trigger happy these mods are I might have sealed my fate here and now.

[topaz plinth]

@rich torrent time to rage bait you

[subtle sluice]

Bro that seem like a source trust me bro type of stuff

[inland nymph]

Yeah pretty much LOL

[topaz plinth]

Don't click the link chat

[inland nymph]

If it comes it comes if it doesn't I won't be crying my heart out.

But it did make me do a bit of research.

[frozen comet]

New eyeball who this

[subtle sluice]

And what if i did 😎

[rich torrent]

As the official #1 Discord PvPer, I am unbaitable.

Bruh why is someone DMing from here for money to buy things. 💀

[subtle sluice]

Cuz your the #1 discord pvper duh

[rich torrent]

Wait am I suppose to be getting paid for that?

[subtle sluice]

Indeed

[rich torrent]

Mods what the hell man

[subtle sluice]

Your the number 1 after all

[rich torrent]

I want my back pay I'm broke

[topaz plinth]

E SCAMMED

[topaz plinth]

But you have a skill issue

[subtle sluice]

The only one doing e stuff is u

[topaz plinth]

no u 🤧💔 I'm e free

[subtle sluice]

Too bad im too e cool for that 😎

[crude sundial]

Does the shotgun on assault count as a side arm?

[rich torrent]

Damn, I'm getting e bullied like it's high school all over again.

[inland nymph]

No. It is a primary placed in the gadget slot.

[subtle sluice]

Sorry to hear that

[topaz plinth]

Ur definitely e something 🤧💔

[topaz plinth]

Good ol days

[subtle sluice]

Yeah prob e french canadian

[rich torrent]

I don't think good is the way to describe that. 🤣

[topaz plinth]

E oui e maple syrup

[topaz plinth]

Did you cry when you got bullied

[true tapir]

yo why r there red lights

[topaz plinth]

I really hope I don't get banned cause mods this is all friendly banter 🤧💔

[topaz plinth]

Where 😦

[rich torrent]

I ate emotionally. 😭💔

[subtle sluice]

E maple syrup is crazy 😭

[true tapir]

on eastwood, i see some bright as lights

[topaz plinth]

I don't think I can rage bait tow guys 🤧💔 it might give him/her/they PTSD

[topaz plinth]

Oh yeah siren head is gonna be added to the game

[true tapir]

omg nice

[topaz plinth]

E Canada 🍁

[subtle sluice]

This is getting a bit e wild

[topaz plinth]

how e so 💔

[rich torrent]

PTCE - post traumatic comfort eating. 😕

[subtle sluice]

E idk lmao

[rich torrent]

I identify as #1 Discord PvPer.

[topaz plinth]

Okay great

[topaz plinth]

No u aren't silly 💔🤧

[rich torrent]

But him I guess, I had to remove my pronouns cause I got in trouble. 😕

[topaz plinth]

The fuck 🙏🏻

[rich torrent]

Yea, Borderlands Discord didn't like what I had. 😬

[topaz plinth]

☠️

[stone owl]

hi guys im having problem opening battlefield i click on play button but after launch it shuts down

[topaz plinth]

I don't think you're pressing the play button

[stone owl]

it opens says running then it stops again

[topaz plinth]

Have you asked it to walk or

[stone owl]

anyone support team member here ?

[topaz plinth]

LMAO
I'm kidding it's probably an issue with the cache clear it and try again

[storm crystal]

Reinstall the javelin anti cheat

[stone owl]

how ?

[storm crystal]

Firstly are you on pc

[stone owl]

yes

[storm crystal]

Program files>EA youll find the javelin anti cheat there

Simply look up Javelin anti cheat on your preffered browser and look for an official EA download

Happened to me too since I tried the beta - the left over Javelin anti cheat doesnt work for bf6 official release

[stone owl]

i cant share ss here look ur dm

[storm crystal]

Sure

[stone owl]

text me i cant text u

[modest dome]

i notice that The End's parrot is in bf6

[terse kindle]

Hola quien para jugar redserc

Redsec*

[prime venture]

Yo I feel like the MP7 got shadow nerfed anyone realize it too?

[thin finch]

will we get any actual content in s2 or is the game gonna be just as stale

[frozen comet]

[tired flower]

DRG gamers be like

[fiery cloud]

WHERE'S MY BONUS PATH (BF PRO) SKIN?!?!

[frozen comet]

Call in the helldivers

[tired flower]

Need a flamethrower

[fiery cloud]

FIX IT OU GET SUITED!

[topaz plinth]

e

[devout summit]

When are guns being added

[wraith canopy]

Expired lol

[tired flower]

🇪

[neon osprey]

Id crack the engineer from coyotee squad

[topaz plinth]

diabolical

[topaz plinth]

-# e

[frozen comet]

[subtle sluice]

E

[topaz plinth]

e

[subtle sluice]

ē

[topaz plinth]

wait a minute i think i can change the color of the text
trial and error one sec

[autumn jasper]

has anyone been playing a-lot of hackers lately

[subtle sluice]

Not me

[autumn jasper]

i just played a level 747 hacker

and a level 220 hacker lmao

[subtle sluice]

Level 747 hacker ?

[autumn jasper]

yup crazy to think hes reached that level

[dusky topaz]

cap

[subtle sluice]

What your proof ?

[autumn jasper]

need proof?

[dusky topaz]

yep dm it

[autumn jasper]

alright

[topaz plinth]

shit it didnt work uno momento

[subtle sluice]

The source : trust me bro

[frozen comet]

How tf is this supposed to be possible

[subtle sluice]

It just is

[topaz plinth]

+ Hello IS THIS GREEN

[frozen comet]

Ima just skip it cuz this shit is basically impossible

[subtle sluice]

No

[frozen comet]

Maybe

[wary hinge]

no

[subtle sluice]

So the proof ?

[topaz plinth]

guys am i being gaslit 💔

[subtle sluice]

I would never gaslit anyone

[reef bolt]

Its not green for me

[wary hinge]

no

[topaz plinth]

shit

- Hello is this red

[autumn jasper]

dm?

im on play station so it takes time to download the clip

[dusky topaz]

pl*ystation

[frozen comet]

Are you on mobile

[topaz plinth]

pc rn

[frozen comet]

Ah then idk if it works at all

[topaz plinth]

what does it show up as
is it a black box

[frozen comet]

Yea

With grey text

[subtle sluice]

A gray black box with white text

[topaz plinth]

[is this bluuuuu]

[subtle sluice]

Nop

Same thing like the other

[topaz plinth]

I'mma keep trying till this shi turns blue

[subtle sluice]

You know it wont work right ?

[frozen comet]

Your name is blue does that count

[subtle sluice]

Maybe if you try it again it would work this time

[topaz plinth]

[im persistent, it shows on my side sometimes]

[subtle sluice]

Wait !

[topaz plinth]

DID IT WORK????

[subtle sluice]

Still doesnt work....

[topaz plinth]

discord we need colored text

[subtle sluice]

You might be in the wrong server for that

[topaz plinth]

im tryna make this server fun
rainbow text in 2026 when 💔

[frozen comet]

I don't think it works at all for mobile but should for pc

[subtle sluice]

Yeah im on mobile so that could be why

[topaz plinth]

ok ill try to do it in general

[neon osprey]

Cv90 my beloved

[neon osprey]

Worst idea ever

[topaz plinth]

im vouching for rainbow text

[storm crystal]

What from mgs?

[ivory mauve]

cant wait for season 2 with 2 tiny maps and 123191 trillion gasmask skins

[neon osprey]

Explodes

[modest dome]

ye

[topaz plinth]

GLITTER TEXT YES

[storm crystal]

In what map

[modest dome]

you have to find it by urself, i was surprise as well

[storm crystal]

🍅 boo

[wary hinge]

ngl I find it very annoying that our ifv sat in our spawn the entire time

[topaz plinth]

the tank should explode if left in spawn for too long

[wary hinge]

we couldve used a IFV so badly when trying to take point c but instead my guy is sitting shooting at nothing in the backline.

[frozen comet]

Fr lmao

Should count as out of bounds after two or three minutes

[topaz plinth]

see at that point id just explode the tank

now no one can have the tank

[wary hinge]

tbh not sure why ppl use the tanks like its war thunder. You dont need to hold a angle on a hill lol

[topaz plinth]

i only use the tank to push my way into an objective, like i am launching that shit into your spawn if you're the enemy lmoa

[wary hinge]

same, I practically ram everything in a tank.

[frozen comet]

Yea especially the ifv people can spawn on that and overrun shit

[elfin oriole]

if $5000 was sent to you as a blessing
what would you use it for ?

[topaz plinth]

get out

[topaz plinth]

the enemies got so pressed about me in their spawn they launched a jet at me 💔

[frozen comet]

Black jack and..

[elfin oriole]

Inbox me

[frozen comet]

No u

[wary hinge]

tbh that match was just poor. I somehow got 1st place with the most kills and objective take overs despite me joining half way in the game

[topaz plinth]

one person is all it takes to change the course of the game

ggs, good job tho
I remeber joinign a sabotage game and the enemy was ahead by ALOT of points, but as soon as I started destroying everything we managed to win lmao

[crimson garden]

Penguin team was about to lose nice sabotage box. Penguin = used repair tool back to max health for nice sabotage box 😎

[dusky topaz]

?

[topaz plinth]

i realized that engineer could fix the boxes and it was a game changer, especially defending the last box

[crimson garden]

Very true friend Penguin thinks, Engineer was very useful for that mode. Both RPG rocket & repair tool 🚀 🔧

[frozen comet]

Should've kept sabotage

[topaz plinth]

WHY DDI THEY TAKE IT AWAYYYY

[crimson garden]

Some people complained about that mode, still Penguin had lots of fun moments with Sabotage mode

[wary hinge]

I mean we still lost lol

their tanks did a lot better then ours so

[past jasper]

It's a shit mode lol

Weapons are unbalanced

There is literally no point to run anything other than recon, 18.5ksk

[dusky topaz]

whats 18.5ksk

[pastel shell]

Sabotage got repetitive fast

[past jasper]

Saiga

[dusky topaz]

kord is good for <80m gaming. whats better?

[crimson garden]

Not assault rifle category, but mathematically Penguin says KV9 = absolutely amazing for CQB and getting rid of enemies quickly. But at the expense of ammo reduction

[dusky topaz]

kv9 slower ttk than scw. so its pointless weapon

[topaz plinth]

well rip

[topaz plinth]

💔💔💔💔 naur

[past jasper]

it really is, it isnt more bad because most people didnt play it enough to use the best weapon and stratagy

[crimson garden]

According to Penguin testing KV9 has slightly faster TTK than SCW, unless they made changes right now Penguin asks?

[past jasper]

which is just run ino the objective, shotgun spam as much objective as possible and go to the other ones

[dusky topaz]

tested myself only a couple weeks ago after balance changes. scw is 1 frame faster

kv9 cant use past 30m

[crimson garden]

Penguin still use SCW-10 for most cases CQB as SCW-10 is better when adding some distance + more ammo at more normal price

[dusky topaz]

kv9 cant beat <1m either against a scw

[past jasper]

vector is easier for people with worse aim because the rpm

[dusky topaz]

nah its harder. the recoil is harder to control. goes horizontal too much

[past jasper]

tf are you talking about neither gun has recoil

[crimson garden]

This is where Penguin cannot agree, based upon clean non biased math

[dusky topaz]

you play console?

[past jasper]

mnk

[dusky topaz]

go stream for me you full spraying at 50m the kv9

[past jasper]

i can just dump a video in #screenshots-and-clips

[dusky topaz]

do that, dont put no grips. full points into max mag

[past jasper]

lol no why use the biggest mag when it uses like 20 more points

[dusky topaz]

nah you dont know game then

[crimson garden]

🦢

[past jasper]

homie i would rather put points for HP than bigger mag

[dusky topaz]

penguin, you put grips on your kv9?

[dawn gust]

Can I have aim assait when use controller on pc?

[dusky topaz]

probably

[dusky topaz]

whats hp?

[past jasper]

hollow points

[dusky topaz]

nah. cant back that

[past jasper]

btw i also put hollow point on scw

[dusky topaz]

max mag on both guns more value

[past jasper]

really not

[dusky topaz]

nah, you dont know ball bro, sorry.

[crimson garden]

Penguin usually don't in order to afford more ammo, as KV9 Penguin only use in CQB like max 10 meters range, not really a need to add any for those distances at all

[topaz plinth]

naur 🙂‍↕️

[dusky topaz]

nah im living in a world of lunatics

[past jasper]

you tell me you would rather not use extended barrel and hp and use 4 more rounds

[dusky topaz]

running 21mags on scw and kv9

[past jasper]

pinged you on #screenshots-and-clips

[dusky topaz]

extended barrel doesnt increase range.

[past jasper]

it increases velocity which makes hit detection feels like less dogshit

because once you are out of 20-30m velocity actually matters

[dusky topaz]

why didnt you clip 3 mags of shooting. had to get the perfect one or sum?

[past jasper]

because one or 3 are the same

[sturdy quarry]

Agreed , but just make the maps big enough that from spawn you literally can't see anything , not even the first point , problem solved

[dusky topaz]

igh, sus tho. never seen it pull down straight cleanly like that at 50m. ill test it again

[past jasper]

do i need to show you that i wait for the targets to slowly rise up and shoot again

[past jasper]

like yeah there are a bit of side to side jerk, but also that you really dont take engagements with vector in those ranges

[dusky topaz]

anyways what grip did you put.

[past jasper]

the one in the clip is no grip iirc

and if i use grip its slim angled

[dusky topaz]

whats the fastest ttk gun at 50m that can compete cqc. all i seen is the kord

[past jasper]

i put another clip in #screenshots-and-clips you can see that the lack of velocity that vector have does give you a non insignificant hit delay

[past jasper]

tr7 is the answer to all problems

[crimson garden]

Penguin notice the topic is not about truth or the weapons themselves, but something else. Proper time for Penguin to take a little break

[dusky topaz]

nah slow ttk at 50-80m

have to tap it cus the recoil, makes the ttk go down

[past jasper]

you are gonna tell me 4 shots at 720rpm is too slow

[dusky topaz]

one guy behind cover you lose, you cant hit him without tapping

[past jasper]

equivilantly, g36 or 433, 5 shots to kill at even longest of ranges

[dusky topaz]

play it in a real game. it aint all that.

[sturdy quarry]

All this TTK talk , everyone knows the best TTK is a tank shell hitting you

[dusky topaz]

slow ttk. takes 2 shots

[sturdy quarry]

Nah its a single shot if ya good

[crimson garden]

RPG rocket also best hand held gun in the game 😎 🚀 It classifies as a gun this is true Penguin says 😃

[dusky topaz]

nah, armour piercing rounds is 2 minimum

[past jasper]

it really isnt

[wary hinge]

gotta love my whole team being recons

[dusky topaz]

tank shell?

[past jasper]

yes

also btw kord have uncompetitive ttk in all ranges, it is just a gun with no recoil and high rpm

its just a gun for bad players

[dusky topaz]

nah, maybe it oneshots close. tested it, was two at around 100m or sum.

[sturdy quarry]

mpat , and guided are what I use , both one shot infantry just being close without a direct

[dusky topaz]

yeah but thats what makes it good. its not the best but its higher ttk than then scw at 50m. dont quote me tho, didnt test 50m ttks

[sturdy quarry]

pretty sure ap one shots on both the ifv and the tank on direct

[dusky topaz]

it can compete in all gun fights, i need to find the better gun ttk for 50m

[past jasper]

its still not a good gun if you have anywhere close to decent aim

it cant compete in any gunfight if both sides hit their shots

[dusky topaz]

no one runs that. its tow + armour piercing.

maybe in breakthrough, never play that so

[sturdy quarry]

Haha I do , and I tank a lot more and probably better than most

[past jasper]

who tf runs that

HE + TOW or HE + MR always

[dusky topaz]

cus conquest

you tickle tanks with anything but armour piercing shells

[past jasper]

you kill them with MR/TOW

[dusky topaz]

tow still slower ttk than armour piercing

[sturdy quarry]

IFV's job is not to fight tanks , just to TOW and keep them wounded for others

[past jasper]

you are a ifv, you fight mostly infantry, why would you not use the rounds designed for fighting infantry

[dusky topaz]

youll lose anyways to another ifv running the anti tank.

[sturdy quarry]

this^

[dusky topaz]

both tanks run anti armour in real games of conquest.

[past jasper]

you dont lose because whatever setup he is running, you lose because of your team have shit engi

[sturdy quarry]

Don't put yourself in a 1v1 position lmao

[past jasper]

also if you are in a situation where you cant retret away you are already doing it wrong

[dusky topaz]

didnt say that. youre helping the team more running anti armour rounds

[past jasper]

i wanna see your tracker stats tbh

[sturdy quarry]

Nah , you are more useful killing all infantry with HE around corners and blowing up cover

[dusky topaz]

got coaxial for infantry and can hit them with anti tank easy on ifv

[dusky topaz]

dm ill show you. stats dont matter if you bot farm for levels

bot farming levels rn ruins Winrate. my kd is like 35

[sturdy quarry]

stat tracker has a not including bot stats for kd I think , not sure how good it is

[past jasper]

stats still matter if you do bots lol

[dusky topaz]

send me urs in dm

[past jasper]

homie just search my id and you will find me

[dusky topaz]

ight sure. cant really tell shi from stats tho

[sturdy quarry]

Show us your best game on the scoreboard with the IFV , so we can see its with real players

[past jasper]

like im pretty sure there isnt anyone else that name is catinus

[dusky topaz]

post link not searching

[past jasper]

but also i dont play conquest

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1005803602569/overview

i post my tracker all the time but ok

[sturdy quarry]

Hold up? How? Its...the mode

[dusky topaz]

stats irrelevant for me. im just afk waiting for heli in conquest.

[past jasper]

stats irrelevant
afk wait for heli

homie it doesnt add up

[dusky topaz]

homie this homie that. it adds up. compute it. dm me your stat link

[sturdy quarry]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/2506265286/overview my stats are hilarious , vehicle main so hard

[past jasper]

if you think stats are irrelavent why dont you actually play the game

[past jasper]

my tracker link is literally posted above holy dude

[dusky topaz]

oh missed it my fault

what do you look at on the stats page

[sturdy quarry]

Man you don't play vehicles much huh?

[past jasper]

i have just been getting guns in 50 in small modes lately

[sturdy quarry]

Haha don't think i have a single gun to 50

[past jasper]

and also i am a better gunner than a driver so i usually need a driver lol

[sturdy quarry]

If you need a driver hit me up haha

[dusky topaz]

what do you care about when opening a stats page

[past jasper]

spm, kpm, kd, win rate idk

[dusky topaz]

what do i look at on your profile to tell if you are decent

[languid mural]

the humble 160 level m4a1

[vestal canopy]

did dice make any of the post-launch maps have break through mode yet?

[past jasper]

both do

[languid mural]

all of them have breakthrough, yeah

[past jasper]

and if you count empire state snow as a new map then that also yes

[sturdy quarry]

Haha Im level 170 on the MBT

[vestal canopy]

are you sure? cuz like 3-4 weeks ago i checked and i could only find original maps

[languid mural]

Im pretty sure they even released with it

[sturdy quarry]

Wish there was a stat for top of the leaderboard ingame percentage or something

[dusky topaz]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1009984576908/overview

[languid mural]

u can check tracker.gg

[past jasper]

yes because people has been complaining that blackwell breakthrough is shit and somehow people think eastwood breakthrough is good

[vestal canopy]

ok thanks

[past jasper]

holy 0.53 kpm

[languid mural]

eastwood breakthrough is alright, blackwell is undefendable 2 first points and unloseable on defense last point

[dusky topaz]

tell me what you can see, cus bot farming for levels ruins my prof and so does afk for heli and jets.

[past jasper]

what i can see is all you do is waiting for heli and not doing very good with it lmao

[dusky topaz]

nah i drop 30k+ and like 3 deaths every actual game in heli

[sturdy quarry]

Im looking don't see any stat like that haha

[dusky topaz]

clip farming

[languid mural]

tracker.gg > leaderboards > vehicles

[past jasper]

homie 30 kills is easy even with infantry and with heli you should aim for at least 100 lol

[dusky topaz]

im better than any heli player you mention

[languid mural]

u can check the vehicle tab on your own profile and then go to leaderboard and check where you sit

[sturdy quarry]

Dude you at a 3 player kd

[dusky topaz]

nah clowning stats is corny cus i told you i bot farm and clip farm.

[past jasper]

if you clip farm then why is your attack heli kpm 1.8

[dusky topaz]

bro donno, you tell me youre the expert

[past jasper]

and i assume thats with botted stats

like dude i dont think you clip farm, i think you are being clip farmed

legit

[dusky topaz]

nah my stats are nerfed

i sacrificed stats for level 1100

[past jasper]

homie after winter update the bot stats dont even count in tracker

[orchid badger]

I wouldn't try to talk sense in to these people 91, there's no nuance in this bf community

[dusky topaz]

homie, you get that its probs bs.

[sturdy quarry]

Bet you can't fly on big maps with actual players shooting at you , you got any screenshots of a good game without bots on the board? haha

[past jasper]

you just arent a very good player, get over it

[dusky topaz]

yeah got plenty of clips that im too lazy to montage together.

i played firestorm hardest heli map for like 100hours

[past jasper]

"hardest heli map" give me a fucking break lmao

[zealous citrus]

@tribal zodiac mods muted me for 3 days cuz they was thinking i really insult u lol

[dusky topaz]

why u crying at facts

[rich torrent]

124 hours on Manhattan Bridge as a heli player, gee I wonder why.

[sturdy quarry]

Mirak is easily the hardest heli map , firestorm is honestly one of the better ones

[past jasper]

also somehow failing to get good kpm even on bridge

honestly quite impressive

[dusky topaz]

mirak and firestorm both difficult. firestorm might be easier by a little bit

[dusky topaz]

im a pilot. youre showing your 62iq

[sturdy quarry]

Its by..a lot , way more hills , way bigger borders

[past jasper]

then why is your spm 200-300 then

[zealous citrus]

firestorm needs some rework cuz as medic idk what to do

[dusky topaz]

im babysitting gunners in lfg getting them 200kills a game on manhattan

[past jasper]

you clearly arent getting any gunner assist

[dusky topaz]

im solo for a while now, i go for clips and leave games alot to get the heli

[rich torrent]

Almost 800 BR matches with a 0.92 KD. 🤔

[dark lintel]

Hi guys, what a sniping one tap gives because after yesterday's play I was getting an immediate down in full plate in redsec

[languid mural]

ur top 10 on leo kills overall, top 60 on m1a2, top 103 on bradley kills and top 252 strf kills

[dusky topaz]

donno why youre trying too hard to hate on a heli player in battlefield.

[past jasper]

homie is just a battledad trying desprately to say that he is a good player

[dusky topaz]

classic forcing hate.

[sturdy quarry]

yeah thats just kills , wanna actually see like how high I am on the ingame per game board kinda

[languid mural]

kpm?

[dusky topaz]

whos

[dusky topaz]

bro youre getting excited for no reason. im deffo better then you at aiming in any game.

[languid mural]

theres nothing about it being per match, if u want to I can just compare it with a top 1 and top 100 player

kpm is I think more accurate anyways

[dusky topaz]

who u talking bout

[languid mural]

not you, I do not really pay attention to bot farming

[sturdy quarry]

@dusky topaz Whats your best game where you fly for your gunner? Full screenshot without bots on the board or minimal , heres mine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/258372071086620674/1461391929324343356/Best_Transport_Chopper_Game.jpg?ex=696a62cb&is=6969114b&hm=053215030451012aa6752d9b40f9130c1295e49b9ffc00b2f0f077d0efec4313&

[dusky topaz]

i never play gunner btw. so i have none

[sturdy quarry]

You solo fly your choppers?

[topaz plinth]

yes indeed

[languid mural]

damn didnt embed
for me it was a 39 assists on transport heli on eastwood, it was glorious

[dusky topaz]

yeah 90% of my games are solo

[languid mural]

I still have no clue how they didnt hit the giant piece of hunk I was flying with any tows for that long

[sturdy quarry]

#screenshots-and-clips message

[languid mural]

damn nice

[sturdy quarry]

Bad chopper pilot confirmed , they are all squad vehicles dawg , 0 respect

[zealous citrus]

tylko na #screenshots-and-clips mozesz zdjecia/filmy wysylac tutaj jest blokada

[languid mural]

oh escalation game, makes sense

[dusky topaz]

donno why gunners love flexing kills over pilots. its a point and click.

[sturdy quarry]

Haha only mode where the transport exist on manhatten

[sturdy quarry]

Dude its the transport chopper gunner seat , like to see you do better

[languid mural]

I didnt even notice it was manhattan, but I suppose that makes sense

[dusky topaz]

done it a few times on that same map and mode. gets boring

[sturdy quarry]

any proof? bet none

[languid mural]

that map is the only heli friendly map in the game, the rest is just MOVE OR DIE

[dusky topaz]

Manhattan overplayed overuploaded. not enjoyable

[sturdy quarry]

You gonna show stats from any other map?

[dusky topaz]

i dont screenshot stats, never thought about it

[sturdy quarry]

Then don't talk big if you can't show it

[dusky topaz]

id rather play for clips and then put em together

[sturdy quarry]

where ya clips at?

[dusky topaz]

in my replay buffer folder

[languid mural]

I wish they removed most of the stationary ToWs from the other maps though, or lowered their max angle, because while it is nice to shoot down a heli as infantry with it, considering theres already 2-3 tanks with ToWs and enemy heli shooting, I think it can wait

[rich torrent]

0.92 KD in 800 BR matches, what clips exactly?

[sturdy quarry]

upload some lmao , lets compare , a good chopper pilot has to have some good ones

[past jasper]

getting clip farmed obviously

[dusky topaz]

too lazy. ill tag you two vids but aint nun crazy. its an art

[languid mural]

oh hell nah my workmate showed me some "aesthetic" clips, that was the worst thing I ever saw

[dusky topaz]

montage

i dont have perms to post in screenshots

[past jasper]

#roles

[zealous citrus]

how do you dont have perms on #screenshots-and-clips ?

[rich torrent]

#roles

[dusky topaz]

https://youtu.be/6UYWVd1Ngp8?si=bsQQYIu8YBN2HHW-
2042

bf6 firestorm
https://youtube.com/shorts/NuVv59TunVM?si=vXLJdU7ys9I8J9KV

[rich torrent]

2042 💀

[languid mural]

man I need to mute my mic from the clips I've posted and then I'd be golden

[dusky topaz]

donno what to click

[rich torrent]

Community creations.

[dusky topaz]

ye cus i played it alot in its final form, few months before bf6

[past jasper]

actually some of the worst clips i have ever seen, homie sits in airfield and call that "clip farming"

[zealous citrus]

a nie mozesz po prostu kupic sluchawek z odpinanym mikrofonem? xD

[past jasper]

have zero trigger control on 2042 little bird and overheats shooting a enemy little bird that was flying poorly

[sturdy quarry]

Video is sideways and only single air kills per clip

[dusky topaz]

its art i said, youre just forcing it

[rich torrent]

Spawn camping is clip farming now, got it.

[dusky topaz]

i got 200 clips better from variety of maps in my folder. too lazy to put together nicely

[dusky topaz]

yeah its a firestorm montage

[zealous citrus]

ive some nice clips but somehow shadowplay is acting weird on 4xxx series

[past jasper]

it went from nice ragebait to just pretty sad

[dusky topaz]

keep crying, sound like an emotional wreck talking bout stats

[past jasper]

though i have to say this is great morning entertainment

[languid mural]

I got a setup with audio interface and a mic, its not a problem, Im just constantly on call with my buddies
Im clipping on medal though so it wont be a problem to do that retroactively

[sturdy quarry]

Montage itself is fine , nothing special tho , I am a tanker and I find killing 3/4 aicraft within a single clip good , anything else is everyday basically #screenshots-and-clips message

[dusky topaz]

youre corny bro. sooner you learn, the better. hating all day cus kd is cool aint nothing to proud off

[plush pond]

I love bf6. It doesn't feel like bf6 lives me because Holy hell, my match making is AWFUL

[past jasper]

maybe have audio and game audo on different tracks?

[dusky topaz]

yeah its easy to hit tows from tanks. different

[past jasper]

i know shadowplay can record in 2 tracks, obs is able to do it too

[languid mural]

the clipping software takes care of that, I just need to actually go home and do that
rn Im kinda slacking at work lol

[sturdy quarry]

Chopper tow is not really different , got any heavy rocket hits on jets?

[past jasper]

real, discord yapping on boss dime

[tight prism]

Drone spotting only i went 0-0-117 and was at the top of the scoreboard. The only words I have to say are, battlefield 6 - do better

[languid mural]

yee if I were home I'd be on the game

[languid mural]

you know with that many points for spotting/assists you'd be on top of the leaderboard in other bfs too right

[dusky topaz]

yap bout stats too much. post something

[echo beacon]

Does the SLAM count as an anti-vehicle mine for the task grind?

[zealous citrus]

idk if javelin is broking clips or shadowplay on 4xxx but most of clips are broken in bf6

[sturdy quarry]

#screenshots-and-clips message Even this is somewhat easy , heavy rocket kill on jets long range

[languid mural]

I absolutely despise this type of gameplay as youre sitting in spawn just ToWing stuff, nevertheless, the jet kills are impressive

[dusky topaz]

yeah nice kill on the jet

[past jasper]

no idea, im on 30 series

[dusky topaz]

nah that one wasnt. was an easy one.

[zealous citrus]

ye me also idk on older gpu was working fine now idk, eaaac is weird even on 2042 when they added or in beta bf6

[dusky topaz]

anyone seen clips from kord hater.

[sturdy quarry]

Theres no TOW here tho , just heavy rockets after the jet strafed me in my own spawn lmoa

[languid mural]

I was looking at the tank clip

[dusky topaz]

or is he just a yapper

[alpine quiver]

I'd rather get killed by this than a camper proning on corners or towers

[dusky topaz]

he is talking bout the tank bro

[zealous citrus]

i dont even know what are we talking im just come back from mute 3days

[languid mural]

I'd rather ass-blast the rat sliding into him or by getting a revenge kill than wait another minute and a half till my heli respawns because I couldnt recover fast enough from a ToW dodge to avoid getting hit by another one

[sturdy quarry]

Ahh tank clip ain't even in spawn , pretty sure near one of our points

[dusky topaz]

yeah its the closest point to your spawn

anyways we're just saying its nun crazy

[sturdy quarry]

If you got any better go ahead

[languid mural]

tank clip is indeed in blue zone on the minimap, Im pretty certain it still spawn, not sure if it still holds the spawn protection there but I think it does
also Im not saying the kills were not impressive like the guy, Im just saying the playstyle is despicable

[dusky topaz]

i do, i remember but its buried. ill post some heli clip farm in a sec

[sturdy quarry]

Haha thats fair , no other way to get rid of good jet players without your own good jet guys tho , If you drive to the middle of the map you can't aim high enough to even hit jets

I do have 5k ish aircraft kills with ground vehicles

[dusky topaz]

nah still cant post clips in that channel

oh i can

[languid mural]

yeah, but as the air enjoyer, I'd rather not have to deal with getting locked without any counterplay on 3/4th of the maps in game (counterplay is just baiting and running away till theyre bored and out of ammo) and then also have to dodge the ToWs of ground vehicles
I have no idea why they gave them that much range or maneuverability
alas, I also never had the misfortune of getting ToWed while in a jet

I think I'd just divebomb the guy that did that to me next respawn lmao

[sturdy quarry]

See the game balance is weird , like TOWs vs choppers is generally real easy and too strong , but vs Jets they are like the only actual ground counter , everything else sucks , not even sure how to balance that , personally? I would make attack chopper take 2 TOWs to die , survives one with like 20% health and transport chopper takes 3 to kill , each hit does like 40% of its health , jets remain a one shot.

[languid mural]

attack chopper needing 2 tows to die would be good actually, it would also incentivize the other heli to hit their shit instead of just the ToW
also solve the problem of a jeep being tankier than the heli lmaoo

[dusky topaz]

you can force that rn. its a bug with combat engineer

have to repair it tho to increse its max hp

[languid mural]

while it is good to know that exists, I try my best to not use bugs

[rich torrent]

AH needing 2 TOWs sounds horrible, they already survive normal shells unlike BF4.

[sturdy quarry]

Mpat ones shots them pretty sure

[dusky topaz]

they just need to make tows harder to hit, and mbt tow reload take longer.

[languid mural]

well well well, colour me surprised that a guy named ToWs R Us wouldnt want them nerfed
theyre too easy to hit to one-shot stuff now

[dusky topaz]

that engineer rpg that you can control needs 2. sraw

[sturdy quarry]

If they were harder to hit vs Jets , they would rule uncontested , vs choppers sure but that balance is hard given the AA vehicle is just terrible

[rich torrent]

Yea and no one uses it lmao.

[dusky topaz]

they also need to buff the AA

and nerf the ttk on the jets cannons for air to air

[rich torrent]

They are.

[sturdy quarry]

Need to buff the AA's gun enough that one good spray can kill a Jet , otherwise they aint dying

[dusky topaz]

AAs are a joke rn, they get one barraged by heli

[rich torrent]

We shouldn't balance around bad pilots.

[languid mural]

I dont think ToWs being too strong rn is a case of bad pilots

[sturdy quarry]

To be fair , even the best pilots can't live vs a great tow user.

[rich torrent]

Bad pilots get hit by them more than good pilots.

[dusky topaz]

tows are way too easy to hit, i donno what theyd have to change about it, might not be the speed but the turning stuff

[languid mural]

yes, but the way ToWs are right now, good ToWs > great pilots

[dusky topaz]

they need to make tows easier to see, i think theres a bug in the game that makes some of them not light up. im looking in their direction and sometimes just get hit cus they didnt light up

be like lis missles if theyre gonna be op, make it super visable

[sturdy quarry]

Some of the turning speeds need to come down yeah , I think maybe drop their turning speeds and responsiveness by half but also make jets take a ton of damage vs MGs and what not , like each bullet from a tank mg should do like 70 damage to a jet , like if he flies in a line into mg fire he should die in that pass if the gunner is good enough.

[rich torrent]

People complain about TOWs but are going to be shocked with how over tuned the Little Bird will be in S2, you'll be loving those TOWs then.

[dusky topaz]

tows need to be stinger damage if theyre gonna maintain this op easy to hit stuff

[languid mural]

yeah but the little bird will need a good pilot and RPGs are still a thing

[sturdy quarry]

They better make that thing super weak to vehicle mgs

[languid mural]

cuz if a little bird gets too close it'll just get blasted by the corn-fed RPGs that we have at hands rn

[sturdy quarry]

as long as it one shots jets Im happy , choppers can have it easier , in every game I'm in choppers already just don't get to fly

[rich torrent]

I obviously can't talk about specifics but we aren't talking BF4 Little Birds here.

[spiral mulch]

Is anyone know when bf 6 will be cheaper

[languid mural]

I wasnt big on Little Birds, so Ill take your word for it

[rich torrent]

2042 was a balancing nightmare around Little Birds.

[sturdy quarry]

watch the little bird only exist on 2 maps , like the new car is , haha

[dusky topaz]

little bird season 2 might be the reason to keep the tow op and rpg op.

rpg speed is mach10

[rich torrent]

This is what I've said since day 1.

[languid mural]

I didnt play any helis in 2042, only jets so I cant say anything about that

[sturdy quarry]

they have not added the mrap to any of the old maps , little bird only on new maps too i guess? really need to add vehicles to most maps

[rich torrent]

MRAP got added to Cairo but only on BT lmao.

[sturdy quarry]

Little bird was real strong in 2042

[sturdy quarry]

absolutely useless lmao , conquest is the one true mode

[languid mural]

I mostly played during the grind for bf6 stuff on Iwo Jima or infantry only maps so I didnt see it that much

[dusky topaz]

whats an mrap, the transport car

[sturdy quarry]

armored machine gun spawn car yeah

[rich torrent]

Iberian Offensive really needs to remove the IFV and add the MRAP, it's literally a map made for that vehicle.

[languid mural]

also never seen a good pilot of a little bird in my 100+ hours on that game so

[dusky topaz]

they removed iwo jima and the game died for me. iwo jima 24/7 was the only good map. breakthrough

[dusky topaz]

nah, 2042? youre tripping

[languid mural]

I was thinking similar with Cairo tbh

[sturdy quarry]

Agreed , would also like the MRAP on firestorm , mirak and manhatten , remove half the normal cars and give us those

[languid mural]

but from my biggest wishful thinking, I wish they just did quick updates on maps for like a week to see how things play out, for example adding MRAPS somewhere, or expanding general play area a bit in some direction
just so they can get feedback if its good or not

[dusky topaz]

hire 10x the devs and have them all work on the game, create the best game oat

[rich torrent]

They really need to start using labs more.

[dusky topaz]

did you get into the beta labs

[languid mural]

I got into the 4 days extra "closed" beta before the open beta

[rich torrent]

I never tried, I thought it was US/EU only.

[dusky topaz]

got into 0

[rich torrent]

Or atleasr servers were US/EU only.

[dusky topaz]

youre in asia?

[rich torrent]

OCE.

[dusky topaz]

whats that the newzealand and australia

[rich torrent]

Yea.

[dusky topaz]

kek

[languid mural]

the closed beta allowed me to max out every gun before game released, it was a neat little thing

it also had a better adrenaline injector than what we have

I still have no clue why injector makes you go at the default sprint speed instead of the knife increased sprint speed like it used to

[zealous citrus]

nie gadaj o polityce bo jest grubo aktualnie xD

[languid mural]

huh?

[split vine]

wrong chat buddy

[languid mural]

no one was talking about that

[sturdy quarry]

@rich torrent Im guessing you use TOW's a lot? Got any cool clips? Heres my coolest one #screenshots-and-clips message

[spiral sequoia]

Next season, are we gonna have a Gorlock or Karen skins?

[bitter hull]

Does someone wanna run duos?

[somber swallow]

Ok

[fallen fox]

Wait the battle pickups are gone

[torn peak]

Yes

[torn peak]

Since the first week of december

[rich torrent]

Safe to say I use them a lot haha, unfortunately my PC performance and BF6 aren't the greatest of friends so all recordings and overlays are turned off. 💔

I get abused atleast by one person a game though so that says enough. 🤣

This weekend I'm going to be chasing #1 for Bradley kills in OCE hopefully.

[languid mural]

I dont think I have any heli clips that arent just being on gunner and getting a marauder
I do have a funny clip of being ON a heli and hitting an RPG on enemy heli

[sturdy quarry]

Hey all good , if you have an air main gunning for you per game you definitely are doing good , I've had...all 4 aircraft attack me at once , don't even know how they managed that. Tons of paratroppers raining down is a common site , usually its like 3 guys , pilot and 2 droppers from a transport

[sturdy quarry]

have not seen the rpg on a heli before , from side seats of the transport is always fun too

[rich torrent]

A 1v4 against all air is actually so stressful lmao but such a great feeling knowing you're getting under their skin.

[sturdy quarry]

Kinda impossible to get them all , my best is 3 aircraft in one go , I have a ton of doubles , even got one today like an hour ago

This was a few days ago , my fastest both jets killed with tows yet , bet there are no faster clips of both jets being down anywhere #screenshots-and-clips message

[rich torrent]

I can only imagine the air radar and jet cannon damage nerf will help this situation a little - currently dog fighting is just non existent so jets have so much free time.

I was a huge pilot back on PS4/PS5 and really only started flying on MnK like 4 weeks ago, it's actually so easy.

I think my current record for air craft vehicles destroyed in a match is 36.

[rich torrent]

And it's pilots like this that complain about TOWs yet make it so easy haha.

[sturdy quarry]

36? Seehs you got me beat , mine is 29 I believe in match

[rich torrent]

Operation Firestorm or Mirak Valley?

[sturdy quarry]

These 2 literally made it so easy I think that will never line up again , fastest full jet force take down really poissble

[exotic maple]

A kiedy w polskiej polityce nie było grubo? /s

[sturdy quarry]

I believe the 29 was mirak . firestorm I regularly get 20

[exotic maple]

I think problem with dog fighting is there's too few maps for anyone to meaningfully "main" jets

[rich torrent]

Ah yea, yea my 36 was escalation on Mirak - the vehicle count just makes for such a great match.

[exotic maple]

Like you can be a dedicated tank/APC guy, helicopters too but jets are just extremely rare

[rich torrent]

This is also a big factor but should definitely feel a lot better when jets aren't a 0.200ms death or whatever.

[languid mural]

yeah, the biggest jet players say that the strat is just to spawn camp them

[exotic maple]

what im saying is that BF4 had maps where jets "felt" natural paracel, the big open maps whereas conquest is too small/uyrban nowadays

[rich torrent]

Silk hasn't played a game since Dec 26th lmao.

[sturdy quarry]

ahh mine was on conquest , guess the number can go higher , did you do it in one life? like do you have 36 ingame on your badge? its called ballistic

[languid mural]

I am not surprised, nothing changed to jets since then

[sturdy quarry]

Jet play is just not it right now

[rich torrent]

Yea the badge was 36.

[sturdy quarry]

map design problems mainly but their ttks on each other is just too fast

[sturdy quarry]

damn nice

[exotic maple]

honestly feels like a real shame redsec maps are wasted on battle royale, some of them would be lowkey amazing for 32v32 or even 64v64 conquest

I think if you had these massive california maps with jets in regular conquest jets would be a lot more viable

[rich torrent]

Having that extra look height on the IFVs is such a nice QOL, I sorta prefer it over the MBTs faster reload tbh.

(That's what I did the 36 in)

[crimson garden]

Penguin accepted nice friend requests! ❤️ More friends = cool 😎

[exotic maple]

big benefit of the MBT is that IFV is kind of a glass canon MBT with reinforced armor can play that siege engine role a lot better imo

[rich torrent]

I find the glass cannon can work in your favour - a lot of heli pilots expect smoke but I run repairs and I can survive a TOW/Missile combo and get them on the fly over or exit.

[exotic maple]

For me IFV turns into a fire support/short range artillery platform against players whereas a tank esp if you got an engy riding shotgun can tank enemy buildings

[exotic maple]

Yeah but I sometimes like ramming enemy buildings to craete lines of sight/kill enemy snipers/enemies in cover so for the "ram enemy building vibe MBT is good though it's very very high risk still

[sturdy quarry]

O nice , i prefer the Tank TOW cause I like going between fighting armor and doing AA , Tank TOW has the dps to actually fight tanks and Ifv its just anti infantry and AA , also this was an hour ago , some randoms invited me to their party to see how I apparently downed their heli a ton , think this was a good demonstration #screenshots-and-clips message

[sturdy quarry]

I run repairs and enhanced loading , yo another repair user

[sturdy quarry]

Reinforced armor sounds cool but never had a tank player beat me with it , enhanced loading allows you to just win any flank you make , quick double taps in the rear and all that armor is pointless

[obsidian valley]

Does anyone know why the game is filling up my lobbies with bots and why my lobbies don't get full I have crossplay turned on so I wouldn't think it would be an issue but this has been happening to me since the start

[exotic maple]

yeah I think enhanced loading/systems is better for tank on tank combat but if all you want is to play combat bulldozer against human players with RPGs mines etc feels like smoke + armor + cannister/ HE rounds with AP/Guided shells for the occasioanl tank and tanks fight and light machine gun is the wya to go

[tropic horizon]

HE is poo, use AP+TOW

[sturdy quarry]

I find vs infantry mpat , enhanced loading and just mg coax is plenty but I play a go in , kill a ton , get to half health and back out and repair and repeat game , I guess if you sit on point and risk a lot then yeah armor would be better

[rich torrent]

If that was OCE, you'd just get abused with things I cannot repeat here. 🤣

[sturdy quarry]

Haha I get the chat moving quite a lot , nothing but censored chat sections with my name on it , cheater alegations are like..way more than daily