battlefield-6

[stable haven]

I haven't tried the Vector yet, but I proably should eventually. Also, just an update that I kinda don't mind Iberian Offensive now. I used the tips you gave me and got a few sneaky kills

[shut forum]

you can learn it, its down then right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfwEiscvkRM&pp=ygUSdHItNyBiYXR0bGVmaWVsZCA20gcJCU0KAYcqIYzv

[spare socket]

the stairs and bathrooms in C, back side of B, cars and trucks on A, central pillar and bushes of E, and the side stairs from D to B drastically alter how you play the map imo

[stable haven]

E is a lot tricker for me

[spare socket]

and those are just basics that excludes things that jump sliding can give you access to on certain terrain

[sturdy spindle]

he literally cannot beam past 35m

[spare socket]

the bit with the tr-7 is those first 3 shots

lightened suppressor+light barrel+blue laser

strafe right and land the first 3 shots

if you are unable to handle that and are shooting beyond those initial 3 bullets do not use the gun you are gambling

[stable haven]

I hate the TR-7. Worst gun ever

[abstract nexus]

Bait used to be believable.

[heady gale]

TR-7 was an enjoyable experience for me personally

[spare socket]

it has a unique place in the sandbox

[spare socket]

btw use the 45 cost mag for the scw-10, lightened suppressor, and 10 cost sight of choice

[stable haven]

I absolutely despise using it. I'd rather use any other gun

[spare socket]

the bit with the scw-10 is you kinda need the lightened suppressor and an extended mag

[stable haven]

I'm not sure if I have the suppressor unlocked yet

[spare socket]

yeah so that might be why your pov on the gun is the way it is rn

that gun without a lightened suppressor is balanced in that vacuum. Most guns have a fundamentally different recoil plot with a lightened suppressor

[stable haven]

what mastery level do you need for that item

[heady gale]

Probs 30 something

[spare socket]

you will never ever in a million years catch me using a tr-7 without a lightened suppressor if you do ban that user it's not me it's someone who stole my account

[abstract nexus]

Where can I see what attachments do to gun stats

[stable haven]

I think I'm in 26 mastery for scw 10 and 22 for tr-7

[spare socket]

it's likely 38

most guns unlock the lightened suppressor at 38 in my experience.

[stable haven]

is hollow point worth it on tr-7 or no

[spare socket]

not really imo

[sturdy spindle]

u wont have the money for ammo type

[shut forum]

better to use it on a grip for recoil control

[spare socket]

lightened suppressor, fast mag, mag catch, blue laser, and light barrel

is what I run

[stable haven]

won't the blue laser give you away too much?

[sturdy spindle]

if u wanna use the tr7 without worrying about tr7 drawbacks just use the sg553

[spare socket]

if you struggle with recoil control and are willing to gamble a bit more scratch the laser and the light barrel for recoil control attachments of choice

[stable haven]

exactly why I use the sg553. It's 100x better than the junk tr-7 could ever hope to be in this game

[spare socket]

the only real benefit the tr-7 has over the sg is its range fall off

[sturdy spindle]

only works in easy conquest lobbies

[spare socket]

the sg is substantially easier to use

but falls off in 9.5 meters where the tr-7 falls off after 21 meters

[stray eagle]

dude there's this guy on my team who I'm physically incapable of muting

I can mute anyone else on my team but this guy I click the mute button and it just does nothing

[lusty hollow]

Wtf bruh mine is like 400 and 510 overall.

[spare socket]

my overall is 681 but that's due to literal throwing when pursuing challenges before the challenge update

Like I'm talking loading king of the hill shooting someone directly with the incendiary launcher 3 times for 60 damage direct hit and hitting the redeploy button (since at the time it only counted direct hit damage)

like that bad

kinda wish the game launched with normal challenges but oh well

the suffering lingers

[stable haven]

I wish double weapon exp was just the normal exp, because normal weapon exp is far too slow

I can't ever feel like some of these guns are OP because most of them are lvl 15-20

[spare socket]

kinda agree tbh

[shut forum]

just got kliled by someone whos level 531

[spare socket]

99% of the time they are bot farmers

[shut forum]

na he's a twitch streamer

[spare socket]

they're the exception

[willow lintel]

Did they fix breakthrough? Got a couple wins in a row defending which is unusual for me

[shut forum]

he went 57-1,

[stable haven]

some maps got a boost while others no

[spare socket]

breakthrough?

[shut forum]

yeah

[spare socket]

figures. Only game mode I can get a 43 marauder in with the tr-7

which is why I never play it.

[shut forum]

i like breakthrough the most, some linearity so you aren't just getting shot from all directions

[green frigate]

Unless your team sucks, have my tank parked on objective slapping with a gunner and no one wants to cap the point

[shut forum]

yeah its hit or miss on your team

[spare socket]

I get the appeal of it. I just prefer the dynamics, options, and nonlinearity of escalation and conquest.

You need far more situational and map awareness in those modes

breakthrough however kinda dismisses the objective as a concept with kills, revives, vehicles, repairs, etc (basically just raw stats) determining games

[shut forum]

yesterday attacking i built a great wall of shields on attacking an objective but no one else ran in with me and we lost

literally all you had to do was move in 5 meters and come crouch behind the shields and we would have taken it but everyone just stood back

[stable haven]

damn I'm trying the M433 and that gun is so damn average

[spare socket]

It's a lil unwieldly but awards that with a pretty solid ttk that extends up to 21 meters

it's basically the relaxed easy mode version of the tr-7 if I had to describe it

[stable haven]

I have the recoil grip and it does nothing

[stable haven]

yeah I noticed it does feel like the tr-7 lol

[spare socket]

I would just recommend using the drs or b3 they are much more consistent and share the same damage and range profile.

I prefer the m433 within the first like 25 ish meters but the drs is way more consistent for engagements beyond that

[heady gale]

Reoccurring theme in a lot of guns

[spare socket]

Yeah but in the m433's case the m433 actually has a solid place where if you control it you're awarded a faster ttk

[green frigate]

40-0 while my gunner went 75-0, had 128 assists and we barely won

[stable haven]

I hate b3 so much. I'm mainly using the sor 556 and kord right now. Maybe I didn't unlock the good stuff for b3 yet. I like drs though

[shut forum]

i've been leveling up other guns and every now and then i switch back to teh DRS and immediately im like oh my god this is so much better

[spare socket]

if you play support I don't reallly see a reason to run the b3 over the drs

the b3 is basically a budget drs for people who don't run support and when we last played I recall you ran support

[stable haven]

I wanted to get it to lvl 20 for the camo >_<

[spare socket]

ic

[idle glade]

whats the best dmr in the game

[spare socket]

the m433, b3, drs dynamic is basically the healthy version of the

M4a1, grt, and qbz dynamic imo

[stable haven]

what do you mean by "healthy"

ugh. I just played Iberian Offensive and went NEGATIVE K/D with the m433. I want them to buff this gun

[spare socket]

the former 3 guns share damage and fall off profiles to a tee

the latter 3 guns share damage and fall off profiles to a tee.

The former 3 have ttk differences due to fire rates that result in distinct recoil patterns that give each a space with their fall off profiles making those spaces make sense.

The latter 3 have ttk differences due to fire rates but and also have distinct recoil patterns but the m4a1's recoil pattern is so so easy to use that justification for the grt and qbz becomes a lil hard when the m4a1's recoil is literally just vertical and you pull down. The QBZ and GRT also share the m4a1's very very fast to fall off range profile

[stable haven]

I get outgunned by the m4a1 while I use m433

[spare socket]

m4a1 is loads easier to use but has a faster fall off range than the m433.

it lasts 9.5 meters before falling off while m433 lasts 21 before fall off

[stable haven]

m433 is insanely high recoil

[spare socket]

Based on our brief time playing together I wouldn't really recommend it to you rn

it requires a lot more input from the user.

[lusty hollow]

The reason mine is high is cause of king of the hill which is at 528, most others are 400

[stable haven]

other than the drs, what would you recommend?

I like that gun I just wanna branch out a bit lol

[spare socket]

based on our time playing together I would recommend ease of use or all around guns for your particular playstyle.

DRS, SOR-300C, Kord, MP5, P-90, l110, RPKM, m4a1

might fit your style

maybe the kts but you gotta stay at longer ranges for it.

[lusty hollow]

Alot of people seem to use the sg, I still haven't even touched it and I'm halfway to 197 lol

[spare socket]

if you're able to handle it maybe the sg553 or NVO? But if you can't then the SOR-300C is basically the easy mode version of those guns

[stable haven]

I can handle the sg553, surprisingly. I haven't tried NVO yet

[stable haven]

thanks, I still have m4a1 at lvl 1 so I'll try it next. MP5 as well

RPK I've been wanting to try but the m123k is so addicting

[spare socket]

welcome. It's better to choose guns for your skill level and playstyle first imo and transistion into other weapons later.

[spare socket]

m123k is great imo one of my favs. An easier version of it is quite literally the l110 tho in terms of recoil and accuracy

but again if you have the gun skill for the m123k (which is an entirely personal decision for you to make) I don't really see much of a reason to pick up the l110.

[stable haven]

yeah and I got a 4-5 cqb kill when an entire squad grouped up and my m123k mowed them all down

I think I'd only use the l110 to get the camo and then swap back

I'm gonna try rpk next. I heard that gun's really accurate

[spare socket]

I prefer it with synthetic since it gives the gun a skill ceiling but you maybe don't wanna use that

[stable haven]

synthetic is the ammo I haven't unlocked on any gun >_<

[spare socket]

If you land 1 headshot with the rpkm with synthetic you can access a 3 shot profile in the 9.5-21 meter range

which is unique to that gun cuz it's the only gun in the game with a 9.5-21 meter 27.3 damage model with synthetic

[stable haven]

ooh I'll keep that in mind

[spare socket]

the nvo and m417a2 have that damage model too but don't have synthetic so can't take advantage of that quality

[shut forum]

i actually havent tried the rpk yet, that 500rpm 🙁

[stable haven]

just curious, why the p90, though? I've had a hit and miss with that gun (no pun intended)

[spare socket]

the mag size makes building it a lot easier. You either max the hip fire or max the ads accuracy and spam the magazine with minimal further thought.

The mp5 is easier in base recoil and accuracy tho but you gotta build it and play with it differently as it doesn't have a 50 round mag for you to spam

It's not a gun I personally would use all the time but it might fit nicely for you maybe

[stable haven]

oh how would I build ads accuracy on the p90? I don't see any attachments for that

[spare socket]

either the mp5 or the p-90 the forms of ease of use they offer are very different

[spare socket]

blue laser and light barrel

and as per usual run the lightened suppressor on most guns imo. There are very few cases I've found where it felt not worth running

[stable haven]

I use flash hider right now since I don't have it

[spare socket]

it just gives a lot of benefits for 30 points. No mini map detection beyond 15 meters, no in world spotting, a completely unique recoil pattern adjustment that makes most weapons wayyy easier, and your shots fired making a lot lot less sound

the long suppressor exists for 25 points but comes with sway which oddly enough continues into your firing a bit

sway is just really painful to deal with imo as it's this somewhat nebulous variable that does in fact influence your automatic firing and isn't just when you aren't shooting the gun

[shut forum]

i've generally found the sway from it isn't too bad unless you're at really long engagements

[spare socket]

ig

I just don't like something altering the behavior of my weapon in a way I'm not used to or can't predict

might be biases from using it on the tr-7 where it is definetly the most noticeable

for good reason

[dawn aurora]

Time to go outside

[kindred tangle]

Anything over a 10kd in BR is a cheater

[tidal cliff]

They are level 324, 101k kills, 20 k/d, 1,268 revives. 20 mil score

[lusty hollow]

I really wish the p90 had synthetic, the gun would become an absolute weapon

[echo mantle]

Does the lightweight ammo affect damage in any way or does it just help with mobility?

[spare socket]

I think synthetic should be scrapped from the game tbh. Hollow point should be as expensive as ammunition types get and guns need custom headshot multipliers to reflect their behavior better (with some guns outright not having access to hollow point if the circumstances require it)

the p-90 for example would have like a base headshot multi of 1.5 and a hollow point that gave it 1.75

given that's just the p-90 this would require changes across the board

and frankly some weapons could use more unique damage ranges. Dice has this weird behavior of standardizing and copying range fall offs and even damage profiles+fall off ranges from gun to gun

[kindred tangle]

No no BR only not overall KD

[tidal cliff]

Ohhh okay. I. See

[kindred tangle]

Tracker. Gg shows it seperate

[tidal cliff]

In BR their k/d is 3.92, conquest is 29 k/d, breakthrough 6.1

[stable haven]

TOW missiles on tanks are fun. I "sniped" a sniper with one of those missiles in firestorm from across the map

suuuuper satisfying to watch them climb a tower in vain

[tidal cliff]

In rush their k/d is 127.2

[spare socket]

they're a bot farmer

[tidal cliff]

Ohhh I see. That makes a lot of sense now…

[lusty hollow]

I think the whole HSMP should be increased as base and both types removed personally. HSMP should always be decently high to reward accuracy

[tidal cliff]

So their stats are fabricated? He said that he’s been playing since bf2

[spare socket]

there is no realm where bro has a 127.2 k/d in rush without bot farming

I've been playing since battlefield 2142 dog that shizz is not real.

[tidal cliff]

Yeah it looks crazy

[spare socket]

I disagree since some guns don't need it and some guns need a cost for a headshot multi to avoid them from over building in some areas to give them a more comp headshot multi for higher skill expression.

@lusty hollow this is basically what I'd do to all the headshot multipliers in the game

[tidal cliff]

He got 406/92/211
Kills/Min 2.20 K/D 4.41 in his last game too apparently

251 of those were with mini scout

[spare socket]

if he's a sniper some of these numbers are more believable in breakthrough or something

[spare socket]

wait did you say 406?

[tidal cliff]

Oh sorry this is taken from 10 matches

[spare socket]

nah that's bot farming or hacking. The highest kill record in the game with a gun is like a lil over 200

[spare socket]

then it's normal ish

[tidal cliff]

Ok phew. I can atleast sleep well knowing he’s not 100% legit

[spare socket]

I just wouldn't concern yourself about it I only care if someone does that in my lfg posts

[waxen storm]

Wait so the infantry guided missile won’t one shot a jet?

[spare socket]

there was this dude who was level 400+ and when we got top squad he had a level 2k+tr-7 and bro went 4 and 6 and I was like okay buddy

immediately removed him from the squad after that game and found a replacement

[tidal cliff]

Today I had my best game ever actually.

I went 19-3-12 on conquest Eastwood

(Keep in mind I started a month ago with a 0.7 k/d)

[smoky token]

Do people not like getting revived in team deathmatch?

[spare socket]

for conquest especially I generally care more about caps and how you micro manage a map in a squad or solo (the latter requiring you sorta establishing a line for your team to push up on)

[lost cloak]

Yeah I always question when somebody has 40 plus kills and only 0 to 3 deaths and a conquest match or other matches depending on the map on whether or not they are cheating or not

[final torrent]

REDSEC?

[spare socket]

Idk if revives refund kills in that mode tbh

they don't in squad deathmatch, I can guarantee that much.

[tidal cliff]

Yea I was also 3rd on leaderboard cuz I kept capping and reviving as support with smokes

[spare socket]

nice

[heady gale]

[spare socket]

I mean it's possible. I've had a few games like that before

[oak adder]

It’s called sniping

[tidal cliff]

Also that kovaak aim trainer tip someone gave me was a game changer. Only did it for a couple hours yesterday. Today I was hitting flicks and smooth aiming on targets

[spare socket]

That especially but after I dropped sniping I've had similar profiles time to time

[heady gale]

Those games aren’t all that rare, don’t even need to be sniping if you play a certain way

[oak adder]

Yes yes, vehicles too

[shut forum]

yeah i just went 40-1 sniping as attack on mirak valley lol

[oak adder]

A smart heli can play so they never die

[spare socket]

tbh high kds are wayyyyyyyyyy easier in breakthrough due to the linearity of it and predictability of it compared to conquest imo

[hollow totem]

Original meta to botfarm was portal rush lobbies, later someone found an exploit to afk farm it in portal conquest. That's why those two are so high, they were farming levels. Also afaik the portal botfarms are no longer a thing this patch?

[lusty hollow]

Under the assumption they would have to rework every single gun and how they work, which they won't do lol

[spare socket]

@lusty hollow the headshot section of this isn't reworking every gun in how they work lmao

[heady gale]

It depends entirely from match to match imo, high KDs can be easier in some games and other games you’re getting push by full squads whenever you blink

[final torrent]

Secred?

[spare socket]

it's literally just tailored headshot adjustments that are sensible

[spare socket]

I'm just saying I could not imagine a realm where I get a 43 marauder with the tr-7 in conquest.

I barely played breakthrough and my record is in that mode

[lusty hollow]

There's a dude in OCE that has an overall KD of like 10 or something. Dudes an absolute weapon

[shut forum]

what is oce

[hollow totem]

It's like hitting gym, at first the results are usually rapid and then it's all about consistently training it up.

Don't spend more than 90mins per session, I personally cap it at 30mins

[spare socket]

oceania

[heady gale]

I think things like that differ more from lobby to lobby than mode tbh

[spare socket]

most of the highest k/ds in the game are among breakthrough players tbf

[tidal cliff]

You seem quite knowledge fr I appreciate that tip

[heady gale]

[spare socket]

the game mode fundamentally removes the need for complete 24/7 peripheral awareness and the linear objective generally keeps people focused in a key direction

Conquest and escalation have people going all over the map

[lusty hollow]

Ah yeah so just specific weapons then. I'm not looking forward to using the ak. Probably will wait for a double XP weekend for that since it sounds cheeks

[lusty hollow]

He streams too, ig it's possible but that kd is insane.

[spare socket]

the ak-205, umg-40, lmr, and 3 of the pistols were the most miserable guns for me to level tbh

[lusty hollow]

Half the pistols are cheeks

[spare socket]

the trait, m1911, and m.44 are great

[hollow totem]

Lookup voltaic, they have A LOT of info about everything related to aim training. I like their gamified benchmarks where you compete against yourself and try to achieve higher ranks.

Voltaic is basically a community that supports both aimlabs and kovaaks

Routine codes and all that good stuff, based on your level

[heady gale]

Depends on playstyle tbh, I could probably get my KD higher if I ratted for it

[smoky token]

It doesn't?! Wtttttf

[spare socket]

idk his playstyle but a high k/d, spm, win %, and kills per minute are kinda overall my indicator for skill level

SPM and win % being what i value the most

i'm assuming all his stats are high but idk

[shut forum]

i value having fun the most 🙂

[heady gale]

Incorrect

[smoky token]

I like getting revives and kills. I love close games lol

[lusty hollow]

Idk how but my spm is only 413 when it bf1 it was 1200. My guess is the SPM values change or something

[spare socket]

spm kinda varies from how the game calculates score tbf. BF1 gave a lot more score in general

a "high" spm in bf1 is very different from a "high" spm in bf6

[lusty hollow]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1003738660935/overview

[oak adder]

Respect ✊

[spare socket]

insanely cracked profile

[lusty hollow]

Yeah that's what I'm assuming. I have a 20% obj time so it's not like I'm not playing obj. Idk how much overall isn't higher

[spare socket]

I gurantee you the only mode bro plays is breakthrough

because maintaining that caliber of stats isn't possible otherwise.

[lusty hollow]

Yeah he does

[kindred tangle]

Statracker clumps up games

[spare socket]

Yeah I realized after he mentioned it

[shut forum]

looks like he has 198h breakthrough (12.74kd), 86h escalation (8.7kd), 60h br (16.11 kd)

[lusty hollow]

These are my stats - https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/3205426400/overview - not bad considering I'm 31 haha

[shut forum]

whats being 31 mean

[spare socket]

pretty good

I gtg back to work lecture videos on my mistakes ended. Ciao for a now

[hollow totem]

31 isnt the age where youd start regressing

[shut forum]

have a good one, merry christmas!

[spare socket]

my christmas has unfortunately been sitting on a desk all day studying for a 6 hour exam in 6 days

[shut forum]

what exam

[tidal cliff]

I will look into it. Is it controller friendly?

[lusty hollow]

How old I am lol

[spare socket]

it is hour 13 of my study session today and I'm using discord to maintain a lil sanity

[tidal cliff]

Unc

[spare socket]

dental admission test.

[lusty hollow]

Then theres me watching all 3 lord of the rings extended in one day.

[lusty hollow]

For the last 5 years I have been yes lol

[spare socket]

I wanna have a merry holiday so bad

[shut forum]

jesus 36k kills with the m123k

[lusty hollow]

It's me and my wife's tradition every boxing day. She's a gamer too. Jackpot

[spare socket]

but not this year, unfortunately.

Back to work then

[hollow totem]

I see no reason why controller couldnt do the tasks, not sure if any specifics in training efficiency would differ though

[lusty hollow]

You'll get that bread eventually from it

[spare socket]

I'll get a lotta debt first

[lusty hollow]

Don't worry I went to film school so I got 70k of debt

[tidal cliff]

Yeah true, I think I’ll be fine. I’ll try it tomorrow

[spare socket]

dental school averages to about 70k a year for four years not including specialties

it can go as high as 100k

[tidal cliff]

Guys btw is it jut me or the spec ops class is useless…

[spare socket]

just you. Spec ops crouch sprint and gadget detection is extremely op

[lusty hollow]

American education is cooked dawg 😭

[spare socket]

I don't think I could mentally handle the debt if I didn't get a scholarship to go to college for free ngl

[tidal cliff]

Me when I crouch sprint into enemy fire

[lusty hollow]

It's a good thing HECS debt exists here otherwise I would be screwed

[tidal cliff]

😩😩

[shut forum]

im just glad i graduated college and got a start to my career a decade ago, the kids graduating now are f'd with ai

[stable haven]

wow I tried the RPK and it feels a little TOO easy to use compared to the other guns I've struggled with lol. I do lose in close quarters though. Donno if that's supposed to happen

[spare socket]

what's funny is this one fella said I should just "go in with the mindset of declaring bankruptcy on my student loans"

which is literally loan fraud and the 2005 bankruptcy abuse prevention act literally made very illegal. This dude kept insisting on it despite having declared bankruptcy on something in 2004 which would be illegal now

truly statements of insanity you would only hear in the bf discord.

anyways back to work

[stable haven]

I wish suppression was a little stronger in this game. I spray a ton of bullets at the enemy and it doesn't scare them

[spare socket]

you don't need to spray a ton just 1 does the trick. If you know someone is low you can pace shots in like 3 second intervals to keep em low

[stable haven]

hmmm

[spare socket]

the hp regen delay is 5 seconds

[stable haven]

I will give that a try, thank you as always. I hope you have fun with work!

[spare socket]

welcome I'm closing discord now lmao

[smoky token]

Went 8 and 10 on breakthrough, was on the top because of my healing/revives. I supplied 133 people but it didn't tell me how many revives. I wish they would add your revives to the leader board besides your kills/deaths

[hollow totem]

Nah thatd out me as a fake support

[tribal sleet]

Last I checked it does

[hollow totem]

You mean eliminates vehicle or?

[final lava]

Eliminate infantry.

[lusty hollow]

Why you playing support without resing tho?

[hollow totem]

Support

[hollow totem]

Because it's the strongest class by a good mile? I'm not actively looking out for dead people, if youre by my legs then sure

[tribal sleet]

Air strikes

[lusty hollow]

I mean yeah sure don't go sprinting into the open for a res and instant double death but you should be actively resing in the vicinity

[misty yew]

Just got done with about a handful of Breakthrough games and offense steamrolled every single match

[smoky token]

It did in 2042 but not 6

[hollow totem]

Why would I?

[tribal sleet]

Mortars strike from the air

[lusty hollow]

Ugh because it's your role on the class? What are you even talking about

[hollow totem]

Supoort is literally an actual Assault that has defibs for some reason

[misty yew]

true

[lusty hollow]

That's like playing engineer because you like SMGs

[smoky token]

I do a little of both. I try to go out of my way to revive but I make sure I'm not killing myself most of the time

[lusty hollow]

You play support you res your team mates it's plain and simple. Otherwise just play assault

[hollow totem]

That's literally the opposite

The way you ask me to play is like playing engi because of smg

[lusty hollow]

No it really isn't. If you play engineer and don't kill tanks and then just say "oh it's because of the benefits with an SMG" then that's an issue

[smoky token]

There are times I'll be by medics feet and they don't revive me.

Other times teammates will see me running to them and they just respawn. Some people won't give me the chance to revive them, I don't get it

[lusty hollow]

I hate people that skip when I'm right there and no enemies around 😭

[final lava]

I don’t like any of the training paths in Support and I don’t revive players.

[languid oak]

I almost always play support. I stick to reviving teammates because im not going to rez bots and sure as hell aint gping to spend much time reading every name to see if its a player or a bot. Bots should have a different shade that way its easier to prioritoze who you are going to risk getting shot for

[hollow totem]

Oh that's what you meant. But still, it's not my fault that the class is balanced straight up wrong

[smoky token]

Makes me wanna punch the air lmao

[umbral flume]

Whoever designed this batch of winter challenges doesn’t understand how freezing works

[lusty hollow]

Okay sure but it's your role to revive people.

[smoky token]

Wouldn't mind that

[lusty hollow]

It's like assault players that don't spam objectives

[misty yew]

Facts. You would have to play at least 20 matches away from burn barrels

[hollow totem]

Sure, I just wont go out of my way. Either nerf support or buff assault

[languid oak]

👍

[supple parcel]

looking for a duos partner

[tribal sleet]

Device: I support this

[lusty hollow]

I've smoked and pinged someone before just to have they skip and I've died instantly

[smoky token]

I must agree. If you play support, at least TRY to revive/heal people. This is why some people think medica don't revive/heal.

[lusty hollow]

Like if you're in the middle of the road with a tank inside your body then obviously no but if the res is free I'll sprint across the map to get you

[umbral flume]

Freezing doesn’t even start for 30 seconds

[smoky token]

🫠 whhhhhhy are people like this someone help me understand

[misty yew]

Wow didn't realize it was that long

[hollow totem]

Give adrenaline self heal or something

[umbral flume]

It’s only when your gun starts getting frozen that the game considers your freezing

[smoky token]

At this point ask chatgpt I'm sorry bro

[supple parcel]

anyone wana run duos redsec?

[tribal sleet]

Yeah Ive meet your kind before you don’t accept any answer and make the question unanswerable

[final lava]

I’m not asking AI for help.

[final lava]

Like I said that’s what I only want.

[hollow totem]

Support is just the best class for solo play to advance territory. Self heal, smokes, incendiaries, baricade

Assault? Nade launcher that is worse than incendiary on avg, beacon that's not that good for solo play

[final lava]

I don’t like any of the training paths in Support.

[umbral flume]

Nah why did my message just get nuked?

[sick willow]

agree, but still lose due to team play :v

[slow trench]

I feel like a lot of weapons need to be rebalanced, I rarely ever see half of them

[hollow totem]

If I was assault instead then the problem suddenly disappears?

[smoky token]

You've asked like 5 times and no one has responded, I'm just saying lol

[sick willow]

current it's tr7 meta due to hit reg

[sick willow]

no i mean about the solo part tho

[umbral flume]

Eh even with team play assault is pretty mid only classes really worth running is support or engineer

[sick willow]

Alt + F4. You don't need solution if you can't see the problem :v

[smoky token]

💀

[final lava]

Can you help me or not?

I don’t got time for petty trolling.

[sick willow]

I did my best. It's depend on your skill tbh, i'm not saying you have any skill issue because the gun or attachment will fit each playstyle

[misty yew]

Honestly, any class works. If you want to play infantry just start with assault because you can carry different weapons to test out

[final lava]

Assault are rushers and have really awful survivability. I want to eliminate infantry while staying safe.

[umbral flume]

Don’t rush in?

[reef bolt]

oh my god this mouse stutter issue is the worst

[misty yew]

I primarily play assault and find flanks. I assure you I'm not fodder

[sick willow]

Fast skill? AR is TR7 / SMG is SCW,
No recoil? The AR is i forgot the 2nd slot on top name / SMG = MP5 & the MP7

[smoky token]

Stay with your teammates and take cover when needed

[stray eagle]

you can't eliminate infantry while staying safe if you don't wanna use vehicles or snipers.

[sick willow]

You want to stay safe but get easy kill, use DMR instead

[reef bolt]

this guy has asked this question before and despite everyone answering hes still goes "but"

[umbral flume]

I mean the deployable cover exists

[smoky token]

Oh really? So that other guy was right when he said he was a bot lol

[sick willow]

That's why i suggest Alt + F4 and delete the game :v

[stray eagle]

I mean sure but you still have to peek out, there's no secret sauce to it

[lusty hollow]

Cod brain 🧠

[misty yew]

Deployable cover is seriously underrated

[sick willow]

Saved me multiple time from nade launcher of assault class

[lilac owl]

I got banned

[jovial arch]

Yep EAs anti cheat is so god tier
https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1009645270371/overview

[umbral flume]

With how bloom works and the fact you can just go prone and go back to killing people once your health is full it’s pretty good

[lilac owl]

i got banned what happened

can someone explain??????

[smoky token]

I've been playing BF and CoD on and off since High School, I think I'm done with CoD. I don't even wanna bother installing Black Ops 7 when I can download it for "free". It's just not fun anymore

[lilac owl]

they disabled my account

[spare socket]

this person isn't cheating they're sitting at the back of the map with a tank and quit any match they die in to prevent a death from counting

[hollow totem]

By saying solo I rather meant no premades, I don't run around alone on purpose

[misty yew]

Probably for cheating or saying gamer words

[willow lintel]

Oh my God this guy again
This has to be rage bait or some kind of trolling because there is NO WAY TO DO THIS

[lilac owl]

I DID NOTHING

[lusty hollow]

Oh yeah I used to like cod but couldn't get behind this one. They stopped caring a long time ago. Bf has my heart

[lilac owl]

Where is ea support

[sturdy spindle]

assault have best self healing

[lusty hollow]

Wait until the scoreboard glitch

[smoky token]

Damn. How many times has he's done this? I felt bad people were ignoring him, I shouldn't have said anything lmfao

[spare socket]

I think if assault stim had this effect:

Stim: Gain a speed boost, and when you get a kill while stimmed, you gain 5 hp, instant hp regeneration, and 2 more seconds of stim up to a maximum of 10 seconds. Duration: 7 seconds.

Cooldown: 45 seconds

it would be neat

[misty yew]

Well just put a ticket in and hopefully they have you back in a short time

[sick willow]

I like flank style so i do, even prone in the middle of wheat or barley field haha, but sadly because the destruction and map design kinda hard to do it

[reef bolt]

Ran into that one too, but at least it’s kinda uncommon

[lusty hollow]

Just give assault the defibs again and then the classes would be way more balancing. Currently assault is kinda cheeks

[willow lintel]

I don't know how many times but every time he finds some way to argue or just asks the question again

[misty yew]

THIS

[reef bolt]

I’m getting mouse stutter every single damn match

[spare socket]

for reference the bag gives 20hp/s the stim would still give the regular 10hp/s.

Stim should fit assault's role of breaching and chaining kills

[sturdy spindle]

assault having natural faster health regen already makes it one of the best

[spare socket]

15hp/s is still slower than bag's 20hp/s

[smoky token]

Maps sucks, spawns sucks, crazy skins with different textures suck. I just can't do it anymore. And the zombie storyline and campaign storyline is shit now 😭

[sick willow]

They should remove the ladder from assault and add portable trampoline instead haha

[lusty hollow]

Super annoying since you have to exit the game or wait, thankfully the handful of times I've had it has been near the end of a game.

[granite igloo]

Cod is laughably bad now

[shut forum]

the ladder used to be a portable trampoline lol

[misty yew]

🤣 trick shots incoming

[sick willow]

it's boost you up the sky in beta?

[abstract nexus]

Stim should probably just install trigger hp regen tbh. No conditions behind it. Using the stim is a condition imo

[lusty hollow]

Only reason I got the last cod was for zombies. I had like 250k kills in it, max level camo and 7 days played but the new one is apparently literally the same zombie wise and the campaign is cheeks so I didnt bother

[spare socket]

this is worse than bag and has no real unique sandbox role.

[lusty hollow]

What does the stim even do now lol

[final lava]

Bro, what reason would I rage bait or trolling when it won’t benefit me. I’m legit asking for help. Quit it with the accusations.

[spare socket]

the bag gives 20hp/s for everyone with gadget refresh and ammo

natural hp/s is 10 with frontliner it's 15hp/s

[misty yew]

Make my screen darker and unable to see anything

[willow lintel]

If there was some magical way to eliminate infantry while staying safe the game wouldn't exist because everyone would do it and then nobody would eliminate anyone because everyone is safe and the game would not proceed. And people have explained this several times and you keep asking

[abstract nexus]

I mean it could ALSO trigger regen on kill but I genuinely think not having guaranteed value is kinda ass when the benefit is small to begin with

[smoky token]

Yeah I agree. Saying "Haha CoD bad" was always a thing but this....this is terrible. I feel like their final trick up sleeve will be just remaking the classic CoDs people grew up on and love

[spare socket]

giving guranteed value to an effect that strong is a bit silly imo

it has to be something you earn and chain and the speed boost gets you in the groove

[final lava]

Like I said that’s what I only want nothing else.

[sturdy spindle]

do ppl not know assault already triggers regen faster after kill

[spare socket]

????

[lusty hollow]

Was assault defibs in both 4 and 3? I know it was in 4?.

[abstract nexus]

????

[willow lintel]

Well you cannot have it. What part of this do you not understand

[winged marten]

Yes

[willow lintel]

If that is what you want and nothing else then battlefield has nothing for you and you should not play it

[sick willow]

you can go to shooting range and try each gun and see which gun fit your most, also "safe" atleast only for DMR & Sniper Rifle if you don't want to die

[spare socket]

it was but imma be real it was a mistake.

the best class balance was in bad company 2 imo

Assault had ammo and support had defibs and health. The reason it was better was because support had the lmgs which weren't nearly as strong as the ars on assault

Lmgs are also repetitive on a class with ammo

[misty yew]

They need to give assault class Zain's XM as a gadget

[granite igloo]

Assault was great in bf4, I could play aggressive/ heal and res ppl

[smoky token]

Is there anyway to look at how many revives you get a match? I don't think their is but maybe I'm blind

[final lava]

Vehicles are hard to use. Sniper Rifles and DMRs are slow and hard to use and bullet drop. Rangefinder doesn’t help with bullet drop. Which is why I don’t like them.

[sturdy spindle]

still great cause of the healing and shotgun

[sick willow]

i mean i rather jump on the trampoline and get to the 1st floor to suprise them instead of ladder holding my gun off combat

[stray eagle]

how does the rangefinder not help

[lusty hollow]

Class locked weapons as well. I feel like dice shot themselves in the foot changing that but they say the stats say no one played the closed weapon playlist on this game. Ill still stick to it usually since I played bfc1/2

[spare socket]

it was also broken and the best infantry class in the game by a metric mile in a game where the hp regen delay is 16 seconds with 5hp/s

In bf6 it's 5 second delay with 10hp/s

Assault also had the best guns in the game. Support meanwhile had the lmgs and an ammo box which made no synergistic sense at all

[misty yew]

Honestly, same

[smoky token]

Been playing BF since BF 2 Bad Company in High School, I still don't know how to fly anything lmfao

[final lava]

Bro, it doesn’t. It’s a shitty attachment.

[spare socket]

Bad company 2 to this day had the best class balance by a mile

3 and 4 were messes imo that people view with rose tinted glasses at least in class balance

[smoky token]

I wish I played MP. I only played the campaign, BF3 was my first MP Battlefield

[willow lintel]

Okay you are definitely trolling now because I have NO skill and I hit headshots across the map

[sick willow]

At this point i just want to say it's skill issues at most.

[spare socket]

key word messes in class balance

the games were great they did not remotely have good class balance

[smoky token]

I heard you could flatten the map on BF2 Bad Comapny MP maps lol

[sick willow]

Game is great at start, they messed up with ss1 & winter event. Also AI generated challenges 😐

[granite igloo]

I barley played bf3 multiplayer cause at the time I played it, it was pretty dead. The campaign was amazing though

[smoky token]

Guys, stop feeding the troll. Ignore him lol

[spare socket]

pmuch

[willow lintel]

I can't resist the rage bait lol

[misty yew]

W ragebait

[smoky token]

Lmfaoooo

[final lava]

I have no reason to damn. I already explain my reasoning for not liking Sniper Rifles and DMRs.

[lusty hollow]

4 was also a collosal mess for literally months until it was playable too lol. Nostalgia blinds haha

[sturdy spindle]

@final lava the safest class is assault due to the fast health regen

[granite igloo]

Who ragebaiting?

[sick willow]

You guys even mad about that? Normal for me

[willow lintel]

Bjorn

[granite igloo]

👁️ 👁️

[smoky token]

I do wonder how often this happens. Sometimes my nostalgia glasses are on to tight, I go to replay an old game and it's low key kinda ass. 😭

[spare socket]

all in all tho I will take bf6 class balance over bf3/4 any day of the week personally.

Bf 6 literally just needs to buff a stim and assault is fine and class lock snipers to recon and recon's play rate issue is solved. Also buff throwing knives and give the mini throwable proximity sensors 2 charges. There's also a bunch of other gadgets across classes that need buffs but that's another story

[final lava]

Assault isn’t safe. Again, it’s the class with awful survivability.

[sturdy spindle]

it has the fastest health regen its very safe

[lusty hollow]

The original mw2 had some of the worst video game balancing and people view it as the second coming lol. When IMO the og mw3 was a much better game

[spare socket]

the 16 second regen delay in those games with 5hp/s made health a much much more scarce resource. That having the class with access to it to have the best guns in the game was an insane decision

[final lava]

No it isn’t.

[willow lintel]

For me the safest class is support. Set up a baby gate, drop a bag and just lay on the trigger of my lmg. I have a bad KD still but I top the leaderboard on bot lobbies at least

[misty yew]

Movement taking the bait 🤣

[spare socket]

it would make the most sense to give this class the most clunky and awkward weapons in the game if anything (ie the lmgs)

[lusty hollow]

He's trying to argue with facts lol

[sick willow]

=]]

[sturdy spindle]

no

[sick willow]

Do we have popcorn eating sticker here. I want to see how the drama going

[final lava]

Bro, for f sakes. It isn’t rage it. I’m no nonsense when I asking for help. Quit it.

[lilac owl]

Why have i been banned for cheating

[spare socket]

this is a tier 3 perk locked behind play time and score

[sick willow]

Because you cheat? Or using tools doesn't allowed by Javelin

[sturdy spindle]

so unlock it

[willow lintel]

You don't even want to play the game istg

[smoky token]

Lmfaooo. I loved MW2 so much, first CoD I ever beat. I remember loving MP and also fucking hate it to death.

I guess there's a reason not a lot of maps from MW2 made a return

[lilac owl]

I havent cheated

[final lava]

I don’t LMGs because they’re slow to use.

[spare socket]

Support gets a bag that gives 20hp/s, ammo, and gadget refresh. Said hp/s is immune to suppression

assault has to work for a tier 3 perk that gives 15hp/s that can still be suppressed btw

[misty yew]

Chat help. I want to eat a pizza but I can't have it plain or with vegetables, or meats

[willow lintel]

It's faster when you are playing support

[sick willow]

Then it's the 2nd one, you installed something that javelin detect as cheat

[sturdy spindle]

u have to wait for that bag every time

[lilac owl]

Oh my god bruh

[spare socket]

yk suppression exists right and you have to yk... earn the tier 3 perk

[smoky token]

Have a lasagna

[lilac owl]

spent so long grinding that

[heady gale]

I’m 90% sure SG has just perfected rage bait in here

[lusty hollow]

I mean they literally remade every single one of them in the most recent mw3 lol

[sturdy spindle]

yea just earn it

[misty yew]

I'm just being like bjorn 🤣

[sick willow]

Yeah happen with a lot of ppl. Maybe try to contact with support and see how it goes?

[spare socket]

thanks for reminding me.

[final lava]

I only want a class that fit what I’m looking. Nothing else.

[smoky token]

Damn I should have gave that a chance. I didn't like the mw2 remake

[lilac owl]

Alright

[heady gale]

What is it you’re looking for

[sturdy spindle]

if it takes u a long time to earn ur perks u may be playing the game incorrectly

[lusty hollow]

No one did lmao

[willow lintel]

THERE ARE FOUR CLASSES AND EVERY ONE HAS BEEN SUGGESTED AND YOU HAVE SAID NO TO EVERY ONE! IT DOES NOT EXIST

[sick willow]

Then try your self in game :v. Or else just Alt F4 and delete the game it's not for you btw, people suggest you and you don't even listen =]].

[sturdy spindle]

hey why u fell for the ragebait

[misty yew]

There are a lot of things running scripts or macros or the like that could be detected as a cheat

[willow lintel]

BECAUSE I WANT TO OK

[lusty hollow]

Lowkey miss the tanker class from bf1

[smoky token]

Glad I'm not alone lmfao. I hate how they locked Soap, Ghost, Price etc behind a $100 pay wall. Like wtf? That was the whole point I got mw2 remake, they expect me to spend $40 more? Nah. I have the money but it's the principal

[final lava]

I’m looking for a class that eliminate infantry while staying safe. I don’t like Sniper Rifles, DMRs, and LMGs, and Vehicles.

[sick willow]

I miss POI that could change the gameplay in mid game

[green frigate]

Why they tinkering with cap points? 3 maps have different cap locations compared to last night on breakthrough

[lusty hollow]

They are just banking on nostalgia now. I'm glad I grew up with cod 4-bo2

[misty yew]

I don't know but it heavily favors offense now @green frigate

[heady gale]

Support gives you best healing, portable cover to hide behind, you don’t need to use an LMG while on support a lot of the best guns aren’t class dependent

[lusty hollow]

They made the first cap point on empire huge now

[oak adder]

One of many

[sick willow]

On brekathrough?

[sturdy spindle]

hey point out my ragebait

[lusty hollow]

Also the only class with incendiary/smokes , trophy systems and deployable cover. The class is so damn good

[final lava]

The problem is I don’t like any of the training paths in Support. I don’t revive players and I don’t use mounted positions.

[sturdy spindle]

[smoky token]

I never played CoD on PS2. Damn, I wonder how it was

[smoky token]

Why do you play a game you don't enjoy?

[willow lintel]

Recon, put C4 on drone, crash it into enemy infantry. Safe no vehicles no snipers DMRs or LMGs. You can also paint infantry with your laser designator to get them blown up. This is my final answer for you.

[heady gale]

The tier four for support is insane, you can basically keep it perma active and you’re always regenning grenades, so basically perma incin nades which are goated

[willow lintel]

Smokes are underrated

[lusty hollow]

Cod4 was the best man.

[sturdy spindle]

how are smokes underrated its the number one equipment in breakthrough

[lusty hollow]

You can always start

[lusty hollow]

I've literally one games before using smokes. I agree

[sick willow]

The breakthrough have been fixed on tank but on some map it's hardly to pushup on attacker. Like on oil well map, last sector have 3 objective and i'm rarely win on attacker if there is no cheater or sweat player

[smoky token]

I have the smoke launcher, I love that thing tbh lol

[sick willow]

Tank currently made from paper thin and explove after a few shot so hardly to push in the open field without engineer, or even it 4 rocket at the sametimes won't save you anyway

[blissful condor]

just need have good gunner

[willow lintel]

Smoke wins breakthrough for sure, I don't see it used as much or as effectively in other modes

[sick willow]

But i heard the mortar have been buffed so everyone current spamming it right now.

[smoky token]

I feel like people hate being revived in team deathmatch

[sick willow]

Yeah if lucky

[spare socket]

I don't think revives refund kills in tdm unfortunately.

They don't in squad deathmatch (which is stupid)

[willow lintel]

Anytime I see someone mortaring I throw down my bag hopefully it helps

[sick willow]

You get instant respawn in TDM right?

[smoky token]

😭 this wasn't the case in past BF right?

[spare socket]

no idea

[wraith quiver]

Is it just me or is assault rifle proficiency kinda useless? You can fire instantly out of a sprint with any weapon by letting go of your movement key (i.e., W on MnK) just before you fire. Man this game is chalked lol

[sick willow]

I don't think TDM was belong to Battlefield anyway, they tried to made these mode to attract CoD player

[spare socket]

unfortunately a game mode that uses a kill system over a ticket system doesn't let revives count to "refund" kills

You can refund tickets you can't refund kills

[final lava]

Alright, and what training path and throwable?

[dry quest]

It would be broken to refund kills. 100% of the playerbase would play medic

[lusty hollow]

Idk I don't queue Blackwell since I can't stand that map lol

[hollow totem]

Guys do not look at Bjorns message history. Bro has been asking for a class for the past 4 months wtf is this

[sturdy spindle]

assault rifle proficiency is weapon draw speed what u talking about

[spare socket]

it's called a user i've blocked and you should too

[maiden thunder]

last time i tried to do this it blew me up as soon as i started flying away 😭

[sick willow]

I only queue in Cairo breakthrough at most, and Manhattan

[wraith quiver]

sry was talking about the sprint to fire part should have clarified

[hollow totem]

I'm just confused for why tf

[sick willow]

Other map for breakthrough is pretty bad design

[sturdy spindle]

there isnt a sprint to fire part

[willow lintel]

Whatever your little heart desires my darling

[spare socket]

some people want to watch the world burn.

Unfortunately for some people that world is a battlefield discord server.

[wraith quiver]

"fire sooner when exiting a sprint"

[smoky token]

Bring back the D Day map for breakthrough. I feel so bad for saying this but it was fun as hell 😭

[hearty kelp]

suppression is absolutely useless in BF6 as multiple videos have shown

[sturdy spindle]

oh i never saw that

[spare socket]

I'm mostly saying in regards to pausing hp regen

[hearty kelp]

"b-b-b-b-but the health regen.." yeah no i can still instantly headshot you in 0.2 seconds as a sniper

[sturdy spindle]

i never sprint to fire

[hollow totem]

Wdym useless? What

[lusty hollow]

Wish Iberian had breakthrough. Would be crazy.

[spare socket]

i'm just saying the discussion was regarding assault being a good class because of a tier 3 perk under frontliner which isn't enough

[hearty kelp]

as in it does very little to nothing for gameplay

[hollow totem]

Ive gotten multiples of kills due to intentional suppression

[sick willow]

Not really sure, could be another fast food.

[spare socket]

Same. It does have a dynamic it's just not yk stupid

[smoky token]

I want some sticky grenades

[hearty kelp]

anecdotal, and you would have gotten them anyway even if the suppression wasn't there because it's so inconsequential

[willow lintel]

I have got both kills and assists from suppression

[wraith quiver]

Also wtf is draw speed? Is that just how fast u swap weapons/melee?

[sturdy spindle]

yea

[spare socket]

I think keeping that person at 10 hp that was camping behind cover so I could rush them worked but oh well

[hollow totem]

Not really? Facing 1hp enemy vs 100hp is very different

[hearty kelp]

what about facing no enemy at all because all of your shots landed

[willow lintel]

Without suppression, enemy regain health, peek, kill, not get killed.
With suppression, enemy low HP, peek, killed instantly

[spare socket]

In the end bf6 class balance is superior to bf3/4 and I have yet to see reasonable arguements to say otherwise.

Bad company 2 laps both tho

[final lava]

Because I like large scale battles in Battlefield and I only want a class that fits what I’m looking for.

[smoky token]

Bring back that healing gun, it came in clutch

[hollow totem]

If I had aimbot I wouldnt need to use any of the gadgets or class perks either

[hearty kelp]

and again, snipers, i have done it fifty times where I've had 3 LMGs "pinning" me and I peek them and instantly headshot them anyway

[heady gale]

Idk just give every gadget to support and call it a day

[blissful condor]

just use tanks

[hearty kelp]

again, inconsequential because suppression is a pathetic joke compared to previous titles

[hollow totem]

Why would an lmg ever fight snipers from afar

[blissful condor]

tanks are the most broken thing in the game

[hollow totem]

Idc what previous titles are, suppression is not useless

[lusty hollow]

Think all the classes are in a good spot but assault and I don't think the support bag should do both heals and ammo

[hearty kelp]

bipods, and ranges snipers fight at if they're not sitting on a mountain top in their base is between 60-200m, something a bipod lmg is well within capability of reaching

[sick willow]

those balance don't even match in previous series while some gadget & gun not working correctly on some
Like the suppression in the bf3 bf4 will make your screen blur and it's very effective, now it's show the direction where the suppression was lol

[lusty hollow]

Not when you smack two RPGs into the back of them 👍

[willow lintel]

I also have shot and killed snipers from long distance but I would not normally do this, it was an emergency

[blissful condor]

a good tanker would never let that happen

[hollow totem]

200m? An lmg has no chance vs a miniscout that has cover at 50m

[hearty kelp]

an lmg has no chance period what LOL

against two players of equal skill the LMG will lose even at 50m bipodded

[hollow totem]

That's pretty much my point?

[willow lintel]

Getting behind a tank is kind of difficult when there's a crowd of people defending it

[abstract nexus]

Kill the people

[hollow totem]

Ofc suppression on snipers does nothing

[sick willow]

LMG worked around 100-150m at most with the most accuracy gun like KTS, but the dmg compare to DMR or SR you will soon die before you can even kill them

[hearty kelp]

so then we agree suppression is useless

[abstract nexus]

Suppression is useful just not against snipers

[willow lintel]

Not everyone is a sniper...?

[hollow totem]

Vs snipers? Sure. Are you hunting snipers from long range as an assault?

[lusty hollow]

I've had no issues sneaking up on a tank

[abstract nexus]

Prevents squad respawn and enemy health regen is always generally useful

[sick willow]

I'm agree suppression is useless to mean suppression enemy

[spare socket]

I disagree because bf6's health economy is fundamentally different from past titles.
-Since Bad Company 2 the hp regen delay was 16 seconds with a 5hp/s gain.
-bf6 has a 5 second delay with a 10hp/s gain with the supply bag giving 20hp/s.

As such the health economies of these games are drastically different. Health is still important as an asset but it isn't something as insane of a resource as prior games.

Literally the only buff I think assault needs is:
Stim: Gain a speed boost, and when you get a kill while stimmed, you gain 5 hp, instant hp regeneration, and 2 more seconds of stim up to a maximum of 10 seconds. Duration: 7 seconds.

Cooldown: 45 seconds

it fits the role and appeal of the class in this game as someone that keeps the pressure and breach aesthetic of the class.

[hearty kelp]

not my point, suppression has no penalty apart from the HP regen, has no aiming penalty to discourage beaming someone from 90m with an SGX either

[smoky token]

That respawn becaon comes in clutch

[heady gale]

Hmm

[blissful condor]

i mean if they are deep in enemy territory and have no support

[abstract nexus]

You wouldn't really notice and point at the screen and say "wow suppression saved me" but it applies like. All the time

[hearty kelp]

snipers, SMGs, ARs, you can do it regardless

[heady gale]

Pink name now, W

[hollow totem]

?? You literally inserted yourself in to the topic and started talking about completely different things

[hearty kelp]

snipers are just the most egregious example of it

[blissful condor]

tank hmg and lmg does suppression best

esp vs snipers

[hearty kelp]

local man doesn't know how conversation interjections work

[hollow totem]

More like conversations hijacking

[abstract nexus]

I still think it should work like a cod adrenaline shot and instantly trigger regen, ALONGSIDE its current effects, AND the kill bonus you suggested

[hearty kelp]

if you didn't want to engage you shouldn't have replied

[hollow totem]

Youre claiming that a mechanic, utilized at close range is useless because it's bad at long range

[abstract nexus]

Or it'll ignore suppression instead of insta regen idk I think it jist needs some instant value

[sick willow]

i mean they don't want to get hit while stay still when aiming on a head of somebody lol

[spare socket]

that's too strong. WAYYY too strong. You can outright chain this effect constantly and it has a floor of giving a speed boost.

also buff the speed boost to stack with knife

[hearty kelp]

gross misinterpretation, suppression is inconsequential and snipers are just a very good example of why that is

[fair charm]

no regen but damage reduction should be a thing. that way you can push in situations where you may be outnumbered, as assault should

[smoky token]

More trolling ahead I see

[abstract nexus]

How would you chain it you added a limit to the duration

[hollow totem]

It's literally wrong. You cant rush a sniper from afar. You can rush an enemy thats 30m away

[abstract nexus]

Max 10 second bonus with 7 second based means 17 max total duration

[willow lintel]

It's a public server

[fair charm]

stim should give maybe 5-7 seconds of like 30% damage reduction or smth

[hearty kelp]

and?

[spare socket]

max 10 means the 7 second duration after a kill can't reach 20 seconds base

[abstract nexus]

Technically has dmg red for fire and explosion idk if we have exact values tho

[sick willow]

lucky if the sniper not doing quick scope shot :v

[spare socket]

I feel like you misinterpreted the text

[fair charm]

should be for bullets

[abstract nexus]

I may have yes

[blissful condor]

when the tank is pushing along infantry then its pretty hard to tske out

[abstract nexus]

Does the chain RESET the timer?

[hollow totem]

Maybe let's not do that

[spare socket]

the text indicates that in theory you can infintely chain the effect you just can't have a stack higher than 10 seconds. Lets say you get a kill at 9 seconds. it goes back to 10. You then go down to 9.5 seconds and get another kill. It goes back to 10. I goes down to 8 seconds and get another kill. It goes back to 10

[fair charm]

why not

[spare socket]

You don't want a situation where a dude has a stack of stim time of 1 minute for a multi kill that would be insane

[lusty hollow]

Yeah but most tank drivers kinda are cheeks tho and have no idea how to play tank lol

[blissful condor]

maybe i just play too much breakthrough where tabks are op

[hollow totem]

Messes up with damage values too much imo. Probably too strong as well

[blissful condor]

they have the highest floor though

[fair charm]

the best way to play tank in bf6 is shoot helis out of the sky from your base with TOWs

[smoky token]

Breakthrough is so much fun. I like it better than conquest

[spare socket]

You get it now right? @abstract nexus

[blissful condor]

i mean if they just rush straight towards the point then sure

[sick willow]

you haven't play on liberation peak sector 2 :(. Mine get instantly traced and rocket down on attacker

[fair charm]

the best tankers in bf6 never leave their base and quit when they die to preserve their kd

[abstract nexus]

Yeah I do i missed the reset part

[blissful condor]

I played a lot of that map all the eniges are in the mountain behind the rocks

[hollow totem]

You mean the worst

[fair charm]

tank is meant to be a camping vehicle in this game, the devs gave them every tool to do so

[reef bolt]

13000kd hack

[fair charm]

the top KD on the lb is a tanker who does exactly this lmao

[sick willow]

Yeah that's crazy on that map have spawn location issue

[spare socket]

The maximum just ensures that players can't develop obnoxiously large stacks they can be running around with

[hollow totem]

Camping in hq is infinitely less effective than creeping forwards

[blissful condor]

you want to push B from the left flank or push A but from the bottom not the top

[spare socket]

again you don't want some dude running around with a 1 minute stack of stim lmao

[hollow totem]

One of the reasons for KD stat being completely useless

[sick willow]

A site they also able to spawn on the right of attacker hill :v

[fair charm]

not if attack helicopters are allowed to fly, which should be a tank’s primary target in bf6 according to DICE

[blissful condor]

sector 1 liberation peak has an OP tank spot where u can climb the mountain and hide behind a boulder while getting a view of the entire A point

[hollow totem]

kpm and spm are the only indicators

[fair charm]

dice says tanks are AA vehicles, they gave them the best AA weaponry

[blissful condor]

tow missiles are too essy to guide

[lusty hollow]

I have almost 100 hours on engineer and pretty proficient at tanking out tanks and have both tanks maxed at 57 and 54.

[sick willow]

Depend on teammates at most, usually this apply for breakthrough defender a lot

[smoky token]

Does the cold restrict your movements?

[hollow totem]

Attack heli being a menace is super rare

[blissful condor]

i mean tanks arent hard to max i got mbt at 60 and ifv at 50

[spare socket]

win rate, kpm, and spm are the best indicators imo.

[sick willow]

No but your gun aim

[hollow totem]

Sure, win rate asw

[fair charm]

well good thing if they start being a menace you can shoot TOWs at them all game with your trusty AA MBT

[blissful condor]

i got my kd from 0.2 to 2 with tanks ngl

[spark condor]

Wouldnt SPM be the only objective indicator of skill? A sniper or camper can get incredible kpm as can anyone in a stacked squad.

[blissful condor]

because my kd got cooked when i just started since i have no idea how to play

game is pretty unforgiving to beginners ngl

[hollow totem]

I honestly am not familiar how spm works

[spare socket]

not necessarily. Some people run around objs all day and don't really contribute much but a game of ring around the rosies

[spark condor]

I would say win/loss rate but since 2019 I know thats not considered a factor.

[fair charm]

remember that DICE intends tanks to camp all game, dont get mad at your team for doing so

[hollow totem]

Youre just a bad tanker

[fair charm]

if they wanted tanks to do anything else theyd remove their TOWs

[blissful condor]

if your team is trash there is nothing u can do

[hollow totem]

I dont run tow's on mbt nor ifv

[spare socket]

Like for example:
You run from a to b and cap B
Enemy runs from B to A and caps A

The enemy has the advantage in points. You gained spm.

IS this score meaningful??? lmao no

[spark condor]

True but thats only for conquest. Flag running has been a thing since BF3 at least and even on xbox360 people were paying for server rentals where they could just do this and kick/ban anyone who got in their way

[fair charm]

uhhh no I shoot down every heli from my spawn all game ur a bad tanker for being on an obj and IGNORING what DICE WANTS

[hollow totem]

Sounds like youre more of a heli player then lol

[spark condor]

Breakthrough SPM might be a good indicator. But yeah.

[fair charm]

no i main the MBT and i love TOWs

[spare socket]

Flag running is viable when its done with sensibilities. It's not a bad strategy and has to be done with context and basic brain considerations in mind

[echo mantle]

TOWs on tanks are high-key mid
You get only 5 and they re arm slow as hell
You're better off with apfsds

[spare socket]

but yeah

[fair charm]

theyre meant for air vehicles not other tanks

[hollow totem]

Then I'm not sure what's your issue

[echo mantle]

And tanks sitting at the back are just useless

[spare socket]

Win rate>SPM>KPM>>>>K/D in my book.

Win rate is the overall best indicator imo.

[echo mantle]

There's the SPAA for that

[hollow totem]

Does it count the games outcome that you leave or?

[fair charm]

uhh no we actually are shooting at helis all game which is what DICE intends

[blissful condor]

win rate doesnt count games u leave

[spare socket]

it does not count games you leave but lets be real if someone has a skewed win rate it's noticeable.

[fair charm]

any of you using tanks for objectives are actually wasting these AA vehicles

[echo mantle]

also I've hit helis with APFS pretty consistently

[spark condor]

Okay, I have an idea.

If the devs made it so that vehicles could be killed in like two shots with inf weapons (2 C4 included) but there were more vehicles per match AND the respawn timer was like 10-15 seconds for vehicles, would people like that?

[echo mantle]

Since they have the most muzzle velocity

[fair charm]

“a tank isnt an AA vehicle!!!!!” uhh buddy youre playing battlefield 6 and in battlefield 6 they are

[maiden thunder]

every tank?

[blissful condor]

everyone would run engie

[hollow totem]

Ok but this channel is impressive today, usually I block one person every few months but now managed to block 2 in 5mins lol

[fair charm]

yes, even the MBT should be safely behind spawn to maximize heli sniping efficiency

[echo mantle]

Bait used to be believable

[spark condor]

Recon has C4 and assume Assault gets some AT grenade

[spare socket]

who is the second?

[smoky token]

Thank you

[blissful condor]

c4 is harder to do anti tank i feel like also engie is good with tanks and stuff too

[hollow totem]

Then it's like, doesn't matter? What if a good player pads his stats a bit lol

[maiden thunder]

imagine calling an infantry fighting vehicle a tank that should camp spawn and take down helis lmao

[sick willow]

maybe me lol =]]

[fair charm]

ive been blocked for speaking the truth of how to play tanks in bf6 as dice intended

[spark condor]

It would have to be buffed. In previous BF games C4 could kill a full health tank if you threw 2-3

[spare socket]

Ig. Fine SPM>KPM>Win rate>>>>K/D

[hollow totem]

The tank ragebaiter

[spark condor]

I like it.

[spare socket]

In the end all 4 stats are important together imo

[fair charm]

MBT and IFV are BOTH anti air vehicles. they have the best anti air weapon in the game

[echo mantle]

What counts as a good win rate anyway?
I'm sitting at 52% rn

[sick willow]

You guys even look at stats? Sadly i'm lone wolf so never look at them instead of gun & vehicle mastery

[hollow totem]

I don't even think that deaths matter though? Why does it matter how the game impact was done?

[spark condor]

To be honest though I think a huge drawback in games is that so many people have the Battle Royale mentality. Theyre afraid to take a death so they play in ways to maximize K/D

[smoky token]

I don't look at my stats in general tbh. I bet my k/d is shit lmao. Some games I do great, some I do good, some I do worse than dog water

[acoustic spindle]

Win rate is the easiest to cheese by backing out of matches

[sick willow]

Yeah

[lusty hollow]

I mean the less you die the more you can objectives and push the enemy team closer to defeat

[spare socket]

I reorganzied these with that in mind

[spark condor]

I would rather have 50/35 K D versus 25 and 5.

[lusty hollow]

I only really back out if my team has no idea what's going on or if it's like 700-200

[fair charm]

depends. u cant afford to die very much in the attack helicopter because someone with an autoclicker will hog it for the rest of the game if you do

[smoky token]

Says ai have 2,263 revives in total but doesn't tell me my average revives per match

[acoustic spindle]

Ya I didn’t scroll far enough. Spm I would put first agreed.

[lusty hollow]

Just divide it

[heady gale]

You sir have a 1.49 KD against players, a tiny bit below the exact average

[blissful condor]

u can get the heli from the ground faster than the deploy from map

[smoky token]

2.234 k/d ratio

[echo mantle]

I have pretty bad SPM but I think that's because I play around the objective instead of in it

[spare socket]

Deaths matter because you fundamentally have to reposition yourself in an advantageous position again unless you run spawn beacon. The ability to perform maneuvers and be as effecient as possible is important and deaths fundamentally keep you spending more time looking at a respawn screen than in the game.

K/D is definetly the least important but minimal deaths generally lead to higher spm, kpm, and win rates from the best players in the game is what i've noticed. It's more a trend stat than a stat with value in its own vacuum.

Atop that you technically do cost your team tickets if they're on them.

[fair charm]

i often beat people on the ground just by spamming in the menu lol

[maiden thunder]

imagine calling the bradley a tank that’s meant to only fight helis lmao

[echo mantle]

I camp anyone coming into the point
Or intercept them

[heady gale]

That would include bots, player KD is something you can only see on trackers

[blissful condor]

there is a certain place u have to stand though

[fair charm]

DICE literally confirmed it is

[spark condor]

Which will come first:

Naval battles or Commander mode?

[smoky token]

I thought they removed the bot stats you got?

[blissful condor]

they readded

[heady gale]

Nah not in game, came back for some reason

[maiden thunder]

proof

[lusty hollow]

I mean when TOWs are insanely easy to use, sometimes they are

[fair charm]

it has TOWs

[spare socket]

That's just how I view it tho

[smoky token]

I can't keep up with all this lmfao

[maiden thunder]

that’s it?

[fair charm]

thats all it needs

[maiden thunder]

doesn’t mean it should ONLY be fighting helis

[fair charm]

it is designed to be the most effective at doing so

[abstract nexus]

C4 buff when

[echo mantle]

This guy's trolling by the way, don't engage with him

[lusty hollow]

Oh no I agree I still use them the other way although the IFV is more manouravable

[sick willow]

who?

[acoustic spindle]

I only use tanks to plow through buildings

[echo mantle]

The Wynn guy

[maiden thunder]

let me put a tow on a glider now it’s meant to camp spawn ig 😭😭😭

[fair charm]

dice is trolling

[fair charm]

if the glider had a tow it would be

[maiden thunder]

😭😭😭😭😭

[smoky token]

Is the corpsman dog tag how many revives you got in a single match?

[spare socket]

Fyi my k/d isn't the best but my kpm, spm, and win rate are. If my k/d was higher I definetly feel my other stats would be better

I have about a 750 spm, 67.6% win rate in conquest
800 spm and a 75% win rate in escalation

My k/d is currently 1.59 and kpm 1.79 (keep in mind I was challenge hunting before the challenge updates and completed all challenges in the game which tanked my k/d and kpm and non game mode specific stats aggressively).

I'm talking like playing king of the hill, shooting someone with the incendiary launcher 3 times directly for 3 instances of 20 direct hit damage and redeploying lmao. @hollow totem

[hollow totem]

My point is rather that your decision to go for more deaths nets higher spm/kpm, then it's good, you'd ignore the deaths. If there is a lot of deaths and subpar spm/kpm, well, it will reflect in it as well.

You see what I'm trying to say here? That in the end your impact will not change due to more deaths if spm/kpm is identical to lower deaths

[fair charm]

TOW glider would be the final nail in the coffin for bf6 air gameplay

not that we aren’t already multiple nails in

[hollow totem]

It can be an indicator for yourself where you could improve, but not a performance indicator

[smoky token]

Oh no, Cyberpunk girl vs Santa. I need to get my popcorn 🍿 👀

[spare socket]

I mean if it indicates where I could improve... how is that not a perfomance indicator?

I have a really high spm and win rate but my kills per minute and k/d definetly could use some improvements

[fair charm]

bf players justifying their negative kd by quoting their recon drones destroyed stat

[acoustic spindle]

That’s not Santa it’s Ghandi lol. Damn autocorrect

[spare socket]

yeah

[smoky token]

LMFAO. Omg I didn't actually look, that's hilarious

[spare socket]

Given it might be a mindset thing for how I play in escalation and conquest cuz one of the few times I loaded up breakthrough I had a 43 marauder so... there is that

That is also why I never touch breakthrough. The meatlocker depraves my brain of all thought of objective play

given I understand its appeals, the linearity is certainly unique but it's not my cup of tea

[hollow totem]

KD when accounted for spm/kpm can show your playstyle rather than your performance. I'm really having a hard time putting this idea in a concise sentence lol.

[winged marten]

Engineer

[spare socket]

don't worry about this user they will not accept any answer you give them and have been asking the same question since 2021 with 2042 constantly

[winged marten]

I swear this discord is filled with trolls, question repeater parrots or political hawkers

[hollow totem]

I mean, usually it's not that bad lol

[maiden thunder]

sounds like discord to me

[hollow totem]

I've been here for a bit now and today made my first 3 blocks

[spare socket]

you forgot people that enter things you say into chat gpt and spew them out to be more spammy, pretentious, and/or racist. Get banned

Makes 3 alt accounts to continue this and harass you specifically and on the third alt reports you for something you didn't do to get you muted for a month so you have to make an appeal to EA support

[winged marten]

I'm curious how dead and how high quality this chat will be in if we only allowed people to chat who joined before the launch of bf6

[spare socket]

only in the bfcord

[echo mantle]

That defeats the whole purpose of a battlefield discord

[maiden thunder]

that would be boring tho

[hollow totem]

Not rly

[winged marten]

I mean yea but most of the time it's one/two days joinees sending the most pointless things, there are exceptions tho

[echo mantle]

I played bf1 and bf4 and I only joined the discord a few months after 6 released

[hollow totem]

Path of Exile discord is a good example. A new season launches and for a month the chat is littered with bs, the second month mainly only the oldstayers are active and it's much nicer

[spare socket]

A lot of my old halo buddies have had this be their first bf and don't really engage in cod or bf. They just wanted a new sandbox cuz halo is in the gutter @winged marten

[winged marten]

If they aren't parrots or trolls then obvi they're cool lol

[lusty hollow]

I've had some tin can team mates in escalation idk how your wl is so good on it lol

[spare socket]

I think those forms of reasonable people should be more than allowed lmao. They've been playing boomer shooters like quake and unreal lol

[echo mantle]

A vague net like that would only catch more false positives

[spare socket]

It's what happens when you have 4 former halo 3 4 and 5 star generals enter a lobby in bf6

[lusty hollow]

For me it's for the XP. You can get crazy XP gains in breakthrough

[spare socket]

true I got a lot of the weapons I hated done in king of the hill tho it was even faster for me

[hollow totem]

Whats the point of chasing levels when botfarm incident exists?

[spare socket]

Because I wanna say I genuinely experienced the guns in this game when forming an opinion on them tbh. I've enjoyed some guns more than I thought and some guns I thought i would hate as someone who helped gather gun data for battlefinity... yeah I still hate.

[final lava]

Engineer lacks survivability and doesn’t stay safe. Also I only like the launchers.

[spare socket]

The ak-205 and umg-40 truly surprise me with their degrees of dog water syndrome

it also makes the game feel more fresh when you're using new stuff

[smoky token]

Has the trolling stopped

[hollow totem]

Oh I rather assumed levels post unlocking stuff. Aiming for them rather than doing it passively

[hollow totem]

Ak205 being praised by so many people is genuinely diabolical

[spare socket]

there are in fact lmr glazers

I have met them. They mystify me with their truly magical words

gaslighting me into thinking ah yes I can infact enjoy this gun (spoiler, I didn't it was miserable)

[hollow totem]

Wtf is their argument? Isnt that like, the worst gun in the game?

[winged marten]

🦜

[hollow totem]

I genuinely havent even used it but 27dmg on a dmr?

[fair charm]

recon. you have access to a lot of information so you dont die

[lusty hollow]

Saw some dude on Reddit the other day with it at level 100. Crazy work

[spare socket]

IDK man they just say a bunch of stuff like
"oh it has low recoil" dog you can build all dmrs to have low recoil
"oh the mag size issue you can fix that" still terrible and wastes attachment points
"oh you just need good tracking" opponent uses basic movement when getting shot

Idk man

[lusty hollow]

Sense of progression

[hollow totem]

It's 27dmg 450 rof? Does it at least have no damage drop off?

[fair charm]

hopefully bot farm stats get reverted again

[spare socket]

it drops off to 25 but it changes no breakpoints

[final lava]

I don’t like snipers and DMRs. They’re slow and hard to use and bullet drop. Also I don’t like none of the gadgets in Recon except for Claymores.

[steep sorrel]

deja vu

[hollow totem]

Why not uh, use a miniscout? Or literally any other dmr?

[spare socket]

what's extra stupid about this is I was doing zombies, duck hunt, and a bunch of fun stuff with my old halo buddies in portal right?

if you do stuff in the "custom" modes they don't give any xp or progression

so tell me dice why in the hell is my in game k/d a 7

Idk man it's just really stupid

They can't even let you have fun in this game that doesn't even affect progression without absolutely making your stats look really stupid

[echo mantle]

Just get more muzzle velocity 👍

Bro are you just gonna keep repeating questions

[steep sorrel]

deja vu it keeps happening why?

one of those days i guess

[final lava]

That’s doesn’t help with bullet drop. Sniper Rifles and DMRs are still slow and hard to use.

[echo mantle]

Where you don't wanna wake up

[spare socket]

-Have it so turning off the bot backfill option enables full xp gains and accolade acquisition in portal.
-Keep bot xp entirely off.
-Give an option that gives players "full sandbox access" which enables all attachments, weapons, gadgets, etc to be usable for fun custom game modes and for people that want to genuinely play with bots to not feel restricted. It also allows authentic games of conquest with the full sandbox if players don’t want to interact with the progression.
-Allow the ability to favorite certain servers and server codes
-Add a bunch of sorting options.
-when you open the game the first 3 things you should see are:
all our warfare, portal, custom search. Having portal be buried under the game ui does it 0 favors

this is all I want for portal. Is it so much to ask?

[final lava]

Until someone actually helps me find a class that fits what I’m looking for.

[hollow totem]

Because they failed to exclude deaths against bots (which people were crying about) so for now they reverted the previous fix of excluding bots completely lol

[echo mantle]

Engineer

[hollow totem]

I'm sure if they had the button ready to exclude those deaths the KD on stats page would look normal

[final lava]

Engineer lacks survivability and doesn’t stay safe.

Also I only like the launchers from Engineer.

[spare socket]

It's just really silly that even trying to use portal for fun with 0 progression which should be the intent of the mode

has to affect your in game stats

a true mystery.

[hollow totem]

It's just caught in crossfire against casual conquest/breakthrough

[tight prism]

yes

[echo mantle]

You can use smgs and carbines pretty effectively with engineer. The supply box is also pretty good as an impromptu shield
And what do you mean by survivability anyways?

[spare socket]

What extra confuses me is the fact they haven't considered having a "full sandbox" option in particular.

A major reason halo forge was so successful was the fact forgers had access to the whole sandbox and did not have to be concerned users didn't have a sandbox item

[echo mantle]

If you don't wanna die the only two options are assault or medic

[hollow totem]

I'm not really familiar with portal, what are the limitations?

[lusty hollow]

They got rid of them then added them back for some reason

[spare socket]

Portal doesn't let you make stuff with sandbox items you don't own. Additionally even if you do if a player doesn't have it unlocked they can't use it in your game mode

which is so... so dumb

And that's just sandbox issues. Portal needs tons more assets and options and frankly just take notes from halo infinite's forge

[hollow totem]

[spare socket]

legit just.... look at the only good thing halo infinite did. Copy that

[hollow totem]

Take note from gmod

[final lava]

Not instantly dying from gunfights, vehicles, and explosives.

[lusty hollow]

Idk why they didn't add from 2042. Game modes on old games and maps. Portal is just kinda there doing nothing. I really hoped for them to do entire games and modes in portal. Would be cool to play old bc2 maps with bc2 weapons

[echo mantle]

Just don't put yourself into a situation like that 👍
Like seriously, just learn how to position yourself

Class doesn't matter much for survivability

[hollow totem]

Youre wasting your time on a troll btw

[echo mantle]

Got nothing better to do than talk to chatgpt for brains over here

[spare socket]

I think they should focus on custom assets, manual button prompts, ability to warp assets in color and shape with a vector editor, logic bricks/nodes, dynamic lighting controls, etc

If you put halo infinite's forge side by side with portal it's not even comprable

The former is quite possibly one of if not the best custom map and mode editor in gaming rn with how high quality the assets are. The other is uhhhh.... somethin

[hollow totem]

If you play engi your hopes and dreams to flex tracker.gg are over

[echo mantle]

Tbf your main enemy is vehicles
Not much survivability there

[spare socket]

wym? tankers and pilots are gods sometimes

[hollow totem]

Well, that's combat engi

But if youre infantry engi and actually care about getting rid of vehicles then yeah your stats are going to be awful by default

[echo mantle]

The best advice I can do is try your best to not attack armor head on with engineer

I see too many people shooting the first chance they could when you can let armor drive past and shoot them in the back

[hollow totem]

I feel like rpg's are getting less popular

[lusty hollow]

I'm going to nod my head and say yes cause I have no idea what that means

[acoustic spindle]

Ignore the bjorn guy he’s been here before under a different account. Probably ban evasion. He always asks what’s the best gun to not die in gunfights and lists his requirements and then proceeds to contradict or have an excuse why every single suggestion given isn’t good enough. Just trolling all of you

[lusty hollow]

Bruh what all the other launchers are cheeks lol

[echo mantle]

I see so many people using lock on stuff and it hurts my brain

[hollow totem]

Idk man, I'm getting more and more spammed by mbt-law from front

[echo mantle]

I play both armor, and anti armor. I've been killed the most by RPGs, and I've killed the most with RPGs

[lusty hollow]

The jav is so pointless. The guided one can be okay on helis but the rpgs velocity is insane

[short sparrow]

Is there something wrong with the game today? Keep getting disconnected

[sudden prism]

hows the game

[echo mantle]

The RPG should have more drop tbh
The rest of the scope markers are useless since the projectile trajectory doesn't line up

[lusty hollow]

I have 633 kills with the RPG lol

[hollow totem]

I think that I'm decent at positioning, but sometimes it just feels impossible to progress in conquest when mbtlaw ppl are not in check

[spare socket]

This is what you can build with forge 2 years ago and this shizz is outdated. There’s new features that enable even better maps and custom modes

[lusty hollow]

The mines used to be crazy too when you could still glitch them

[spare socket]

I’ll post it in #streams-and-videos

[acoustic spindle]

If you look at Bjorns chat history he was asking the same exact questions and responses a month ago and a week ago. Blocked

[echo mantle]

Dead Internet theory

[spare socket]

Even 4 years ago on 2042

[spare socket]

@hollow totem you might find this interesting too but this is the result of what halo infinite forge could do 2 years ago

For context what it can do now is somehow even more impressive

[acoustic spindle]

Ah so he’s a serial troll

[echo mantle]

Honestly if I'm pulling up to a place and there's a fuck ton of AT, I just back out of there as fast as possible and rendezvous with infantry

[spare socket]

If halo infinite launched the way it is right now without SBMM in pubs imo it would have broken the internet.

Unfortunate the game was 5 years late in fixing itself and still has SBMM in pubs and nobody plays or cares about it anymore

[hollow totem]

Issue is that I have never played Halo so I don't have a reference without fully listening to the video

[spare socket]

It’s fine the video just shows pretty maps and modes with 0 demonstration of the tools

[hollow totem]

Oh yeah for sure, it just.. feels more oppresive lately? Specifically after the tank hitbox changes

[spare socket]

If I showed a tools video it would likely be 8 hours long

[echo mantle]

Same with armor, if I see the tank I'm fighting has like 10 billion engineers repairing, I'm just gonna run away lol

[hollow totem]

Like I used to feel pretty tanky as long as I didnt get hit for 900 randomly

[echo mantle]

What'd they change about the hitbox

[hollow totem]

They fixed the 900 (1000 if no armour upgrade) bug and introduced some new ones

Like I was hitting enemy mbt for 580 looking straight at it, and it was hitting me for the same back lol

And rockets just feel like they hurt more, not sure if they actually do though

[heady raptor]

so, game still shows 4 days left on the winter offensive, but i no longer have access to the battlepass pathway for it?

[dusky arch]

Join class Moron! Get most kills fast!

[echo mantle]

Don't think they do

[hollow totem]

I bet that shooting at front sometimes somehow overlaps with sides and double hits it

[echo mantle]

I haven't really been experiencing bugs like that tho

[lusty hollow]

Game didn't even launch with co op campaign, crazy work

[hollow totem]

Biggest annoyance is that mines no longer shut down your systems and you can run over two of them

My premade gunner is out for holidays so I don't even feel like playing for the time being because of it

Before the hitboxes patch I would que solo no problems

[lusty hollow]

Gunner for tank or heli?

[hollow totem]

Tank

And no I'm not looking for a replacement

[lusty hollow]

Bruh why the shade lmao, I'm from Australia so I'd lag anyways

Was just a query

[hollow totem]

Oh I'm just saying in case someone in the chat offers to fill in, not necessarily you haha

[terse apex]

i love how teams in escalations always ignore the bases in the middle of the map then when its only bases in the middle there is nowhere to spawn

[lusty hollow]

Oh right haha

[lusty hollow]

Especially noticed it's bad in firestorm and mirak

[hollow totem]

I can back up the fact that EU tends to be only in the middle, the annoyance of side points getting snagged is real

[terse apex]

just played an iberian offensive where our team ignored E the entire time and they just had a spawn in the middle of the map to attack every base all game and lost a 2-0 lead

[hollow totem]

So many games where it feels like the map got inverted because both teams overpushed lol

[lusty hollow]

I also never get mortar spam, apparently it's usually an NA thing

[spare socket]

It’s mostly NA breakthrough attack yeah

[lusty hollow]

I've legit seen maybe like 5 games ever where someone was using mortars against me.

[spare socket]

I have some buds that play breakthrough and they straight up told me that they outright publicize it in game chat so everyone gets on it

Telling the entire lobby “everyone get on the mortar” is extremely hilarious

[deft kiln]

Game finally dipped below 100k peak players. 89% of players gone

[spare socket]

It’s a predictable low period for the game frankly. It’s Christmas season and based on the roadmap alone this part of the season featured the least content and interesting stuff

Devs also have holiday

[high mural]

Really?? Figured it woulda been up like crazy from the Christmas gifts

[deft kiln]

Why would Christmas season result in lower pc? More people with time off = more play time

[spare socket]

I was more so referring to the seasonal content in the roadmap and the fact the devs don’t work during that season

[maiden thunder]

anyone use the thermo nade launcher opposed to the regular one for assault? is damage even worth having it equipped

[deft kiln]

okay gotcha. Yeah I'm concerned we may not get the naval they hinted at if pc continues to drop at this rate

[neat crow]

You know what I don't get? How come there is an AA vehicle spawn on Sobek City (where the vast majority of the sightline for AA is blocked by buildings) but not on Liberation Peak where there are jets, Helis, and the sky is open?

[spare socket]

Bf games always always have a solid year where they get their stuff together ever since they switched to frostbite

[deft kiln]

and I think that is a luxury they no longer have given the competition out there. Business as usual won't cut it when there's so many games competing for player attention.

[spare socket]

Assault 101:
spawn with spawn beacon+ladder+breacher.
Place spawn beacon in an advantageous position enemy team can’t access with the ladder.

Go out and gun fight till you die

Respawn on beacon with:
breacher+launcher+frags+spawn beacon. Replace your spawn beacon in inaccessible spot.

Breacher increases your grenade launcher count from 2 to 3 and frag count 1 to 2.

Spam grenades and get kills. Die. Replace beacon and repeat

Basically what I do every game of sobek

[upbeat spade]

Merry Christmas. Coming back from a 3 day ban on here. Lol

[spare socket]

You can alternatively swap the nade launcher with a shotgun but be warned you will have an ammo split

[maiden thunder]

ladder ain’t helpin me for shit on offensive breakthrough liberation peak tho

[deft kiln]

what were you banned for?

[upbeat spade]

A she said joke

[spare socket]

Fyi you can place ladder, interact with the top, and place it again.

On the giant mountain you can set up some funny spots

Given imma be real for breakthrough support, recon with drone, and engineer are way better for the team. Assault isn’t that bad tho with a squad as your whole team can spawn on the beacon

[maiden thunder]

ya ig it’s helpful on 3rd sector

[upbeat spade]

A flanked assault with a coordinated squad can really mess up the other team

[spare socket]

I just don’t reallllly touch breakthrough

[deft kiln]

really? They banned you for saying "that's what she said" in response to something?

[spare socket]

I just wish the devs made it so when you spawned with another class off the beacon the beacon wouldn’t break

[upbeat spade]

Yup. Be careful what you say here

[upbeat spade]

Yeah you'd be perm assault class

[spare socket]

Yeah you can’t realllly swap

[upbeat spade]

I remember when recon could spawn beacons

It made much more sense for recon class to do so

[spare socket]

If recon had spawn beacon in this game it would be the strongest class in the game

[maiden thunder]

yea cus my squad was 2 engin 1 support but hella support on team so i figured why not i can try and do a little flank with my beacon