battlefield-6

[upper gyro]

mp5 go brrr

[spare socket]

the former has better range fall off and can perform better at longer ranges. However the sg553 rn has just enough handling that it's over performing. The sg553 needs recoil and accuracy nerfs

[upper gyro]

it's the ak205 of the smg category

[rugged mango]

Idk until they balance the weapons Im only using the busted guns

[spare socket]

that would the mp7

[hexed veldt]

yeah there’s no reason to use guns that underperform

[rugged mango]

Because I like winning gun fights

[upper gyro]

Is it actually more accurate than the mp5?

[rugged mango]

Sl9 is

Ak205 probably is

[spare socket]

*welll no it's not that's fair. I was referring more to range fall off plot. Tbh the sl9 is the ak-205 equivalent imo but it's better up close and worse at range

[upper gyro]

Ah I see. Granted they're all fairly laser like from the get go, so the finer details tend to slip past me as far as SMGs go

[spare socket]

all these changes would be pretty great tho imo synthetic is just a really stupid ammunition type and should just be removed from the game with 1.5 being standard for most guns

key word most some don't deserve it for obvious reasons like the scw-10 hence why they had their own category

Ok well maybe don't give the kord 1.75

[normal notch]

is the ingame chat bugged or am i shadowbanned?
i cant type anything in it

[spare socket]

I forgot about a breakpoint mb kord with 1.75 would be the most broken gun in the game.

[upper gyro]

AEK return to glory

[spare socket]

20x1.75=35
35+35+20+20=dead
35+35+35=dead

kord has a ttk of 267ms for 20 meters base with its 5 shot 20 damage model. With 4 shots it would be 200 ms with 3 shots it would be 133ms

[hexed veldt]

it’s been super buggy

[spare socket]

that burst fire mode would especially be a pain for how accurate and easy it is to use

the p-90 deserves that model tho

[humble trench]

AN94 was always fun on bf3 hc with that 2 bullet burst if you tapped fast enough the RPM would be like 1100 though, the Kord cant do that at least :P

[spare socket]

because that shizz doesn't have a flipping 20 meter range and the accuracy or recoil of the Kord lmao.

or a burst fire mode turning a laser beam into laser beam 2.0 ranged edition

[real barn]

dookie player thinking everyone cheats

[spare socket]

I added a few extra changes to the bottom there

There done that's everything I would do to the weapons of the game

shizz has such an extreme fire rate restriction compared to bf4 it's unreal

[ivory gull]

hey pal, there’s only one glock in the game

[spare socket]

am I tripping? I swore there are 2 with different ammunition types

[sterile monolith]

So annoying just how bad the d-sync is.

[spare socket]

The starter pistol and the new one they added no?

[ivory gull]

starter is a sig

[acoustic spindle]

Alright who we making fun of for complaining of cheaters or aim assist this evening?

[real barn]

3.5kd 70% win rate

[normal notch]

damn, they literally broke breakthrough lmao

[rain hornet]

point proven

[spare socket]

ah I forgot that gun exists cuz shizz misfires on you. It would be super funny if dice buffed the SIG to be op as a pistol but it randomly shoots you sometimes

[real barn]

tracker?

[ivory gull]

lmao yeah that would

[spare socket]

I just completely blot the sig from my memory and the world collectively should too it would be better that way

life would be dream misfires in your pants won't make you scream

[acoustic spindle]

A bot farmer shouldn’t talk

[smoky pike]

Fucks sake there’s AI slop on my main menu

[acoustic spindle]

Who cares.

[smoky pike]

You’ve been here for all of a month, you don’t get a say in that

[acoustic spindle]

Irrelevant

[spare socket]

[real barn]

They've broken multiple things with every update, i'm surprised you're questioning it at this point

[granite igloo]

They don’t have competent programmers I guess idk

[worldly ridge]

actual idiots

[real barn]

blackwell fields rush has been broken since the map came out lmao

[abstract nexus]

They broke bf6 again?

[crimson garden]

Penguin just had nice match in BF6, game worked well friend 😃

[earnest cloud]

just full capped and won a conquest in 3:46...

[plain sinew]

fastest 1 i had was 2:57

[upbeat spade]

Same about 3 minutes was my fastest. It was an insane heli squad

[spare socket]

my buds and I recently actually turned around a game that was 300 tickets our team 900 tickets enemy team that we spawned into by narrowly mercy timering the enemy team we had like 10 tickets left to their 400 lol

Shizz was unreal mercy timer trumping ticket count is just crazy lmao.

wish I took a screen shot tbh

We just kept losing our minds in the moment tho lol 😂

[granite igloo]

Do footsteps sound still not play sometimes for some people?

[spare socket]

this happens with the memory leak bug yes

footstep audio has fundamentally been improved but direction and the sound cue might not trigger due to the memory leak bug that is still being worked on

I use recon with proximity sensors anyways so I always know where the enemy is coming from

[twin otter]

Some of my challenges aren't tracking. I have a challenge for vehicle repair but no matter what I do, it never registers

[dawn aurora]

Goodnight chat I’m going to bed someone please wish me sweet dreams

[upbeat spade]

May you hit all your shots and win all your breakthrough games

[crimson garden]

Penguin here to wish you nice night! And thanks a lot for dropping by nice chat daily over here!

[tight prism]

I cant find the compass setting at all? Did they remove it? I am on RedSec BR in a match.

[tight prism]

@mods ban this guy for that username

[inland copper]

Boom. And so we found out. A long time ago, more than six months ago in May, I installed the program reWASD. I looked it up, checked what it was for, and deleted it, but the profile files remained in my computer's public documents. That's why I got banned. LOL! Thanks EA. Damn. )

[granite igloo]

Just repair tooled a tank to death 😈

[normal notch]

what about the stutters? is that being worked on too?
performance tanked pretty bad after winter offensive update

[tight prism]

Heard of that before yeah

[tight prism]

Gratz noob

[tight prism]

Battlefield 6 aka Glitch

Cannot zoom on map unless open and close 5 times then you have to try and zoom out even if its already zoomed out at max because then it will cause another glitch and actually zoom in infinitely instead, thus a glitch fixing another glitch because now you are able to zoom nornmally if you close and reopen it once or twice again, now you have unlocked the zoom ability as long as you don't zoom out to the maximum ever again.

Another problem is, you still cant ping on the map, so you have to try and ping, fail, then close and reopen, now you have unlocked the ping ability!

Also, you can not click on peoples names in the scoreboard and go to their profile or add them, it just opens your profile or some other random persons profile, what you must do is use the arrow keys on your keyboard, then spacebar instead of left click, now it should work, that is if you first closed and reopened it a couple times of course. Now you have unlocked the player profile function!

Fucking 100 eur game should not have hundreds of bugs like this.

Not to mention YOU CANT EVEN LEAVE THE MATCH ANYMORE, it just goes to a permanent black screen! Overpriced garbage

Did NO ONE play test this game?

[crimson garden]

Thanks for sharing the story, Penguin been thinking about it since you first mentioned it in the chat earlier. Did they allow you to return friend?

[ivory gull]

we should get a level 100 golden weapon package

chat did i cook or what

[maiden thunder]

like the lvl 50 mastery?

[ivory gull]

yes except for lvl 100, the 50 is bronze

[maiden thunder]

lowk thought lvl50 mastery would give me more points for attachments

[maiden thunder]

shiii i lowk thought it was gold LMAO

[flat basin]

Hey 👋

[ivory gull]

lmao that’d be pretty insane

[flat basin]

Any platoon?

[maiden thunder]

maybe for lvl 100 yuh

[glacial hill]

idk i like trying each of the guns out tbh and changing it up

some do absolutely suck compared to others

[reef holly]

did anyone else suddenly only get 2 daily challenges instead of 3?

[reef holly]

true, but the unstoppable force skins are good enough lol
i hope they add some benefits for higher levels like 100+

[reef holly]

im using a gun until i hit rank 50 then trying a diff one
but ill prob end up maining tr7 after theyre all ranked up, 4 shot kill at 50m is insane

[maiden thunder]

lmao word they look clean af

[tight prism]

They look good but I never use them, they are too girly for me

[crimson garden]

Penguin big question, in your opinion what would be the ''worst'' gun currently?

[idle quail]

Looking for a squad with mics?

[sturdy spindle]

ak205

[upper gyro]

The five seven

[crimson garden]

As for SMGS 👉 PW7 seems to have a pretty high time to kill according to Penguins experience

[glacial hill]

the 57 hits like a pea shooter

[crimson garden]

What? 😮 Not fair, Penguin never into things like that 😢

[normal notch]

why did they even made changes to breakthrough, it wasnt perfect but it was fine
now it's total hot garbage

they actively trying to kill the game or something

[tight prism]

what did they change?

[upbeat spade]

I think they're forcing objective play style. I won several defense sides now and that is when the whole team is actually locked tf in and on the point. May be a bad interpretation but I have no other idea why the fuck they would fuck these points

[tight prism]

What

[tight prism]

Usually attack would win, but I havent really played breakthrough since they updated. idk whats different

[maiden thunder]

oh the radio is only for battlepass?

[normal notch]

yea, made it so objective based that attackers always win

[green cloak]

Look in #screenshots-and-clips

[maiden thunder]

i can’t even play that cus I uninstalled redsec lmao

[upbeat spade]

Idk if they even made a statement regarding the changes. I just know it's fucked.

[reef holly]

where?

[granite igloo]

One of the bundles has a ai generated sticker too

[maiden thunder]

the road just disappears behind the cart but only 1 side is still there wtf 😭

[glacial hill]

id be embarassed but you know they dont feel any

if it was side by side and not top and down you could of passed it off but lmao chatgpt pack

[abstract nexus]

Fr?

[glacial hill]

windchill pack

[crimson garden]

👉 🔔 🔊

[abstract nexus]

Cant see shop im away from pc for a couple of weeks is there a screenshot somewhere

I did see the golf cart one

[glacial hill]

gohst linked it

[granite igloo]

Scroll up in screenshots and clips and you’ll see it

[maiden thunder]

one of the player card stickers

[upbeat spade]

They're pulling all the stops in following cod

[granite igloo]

#screenshots-and-clips

[upbeat spade]

Isn't the golf cart AI a mode made by someone else tho?

[tight prism]

You are increasing the volume of my notifications? Great

How to get permission to type in screenshots?

[echo mantle]

I wanna love this game so bad but God it's hard with how dice is doing things

[upbeat spade]

The nail in the coffin will be the next update after they all come back from winterbreak

[abstract nexus]

I might just be blind but I dont see ghe issue with the snowflake

The other one yeah, the artstyle behind the golf cart guy is similar to some ai Gen cod stickers

That and just the irregularity of a consistent art style in a single piece

[glacial hill]

I still love how they highlight portal modes but refuse to give us even reduced xp

you give people the keys to the kingdom to design modes and maps and then take it all away because of people exploiting it and to sell the sweet sweet battlepass

[crimson garden]

Penguin says, if you go up to the left on top at Discord select id:customize , over there you can add the screenshot-video channel. It's necessary to add it as Discord role manually

[glacial hill]

Here guys design fun modes but no weapon progression so no one wastes their time beyond the 150% match completion or to practice flying with their absolute horrid controls for jets/helis without assist

[covert knot]

has anyone noticed that one of the nvidia drivers broke pcss shadows? i upgraded my driver today for the first time since october and they look grainy as hell

[glacial hill]

hell would it even kill them to give 10-20% mastery xp on portal lmao

[reef holly]

i wouldnt be surprised if half the skins/art are ai 'enhanced' or dervied in some form\

[inland copper]

Nope (

[reef holly]

idec about reduced xp
but portal is so broken, if i try to host i get an error
if i try to join an existing server it needs atleast 8 players and rest bots, useless for a practice/firing range/test map

[smoky pike]

Supply pouch could do with a buff for recharge

[upbeat spade]

It was the cod players and “content creators” that abused the map system. Bunch of videos or reels talking about “use this map code for the easiest XP gains bc instead of playing the game and earning it; it’s easier to just take the easy way”

[glacial hill]

thats what i mean about hindering the xp but at least give us something to encourage people to use the damn thing

[upbeat spade]

Once in awhile you’ll get a random coming in here asking what lobby works with full xp. Like dog. Just play the fucking game

[river urchin]

So that’s sad I missed out on the red bull parachute cause it wouldn’t track

Anybody else get that problem or just me?

[acoustic spindle]

Quit your crying

[crimson garden]

That's not good friend, Penguin sees many other potential user cases that could lead to issues and risks for others if such software is being flagged as (Cheat) by EAAnticheat. Imagine using a joystick or something for Heli, and you somehow must use software for keymapping = getting banned, such cases not exactly fair friend.

[glacial hill]

or if they dont want to budge on the portal xp, give us some accelerated xp beyond the boosters everyday for mastery but with a cap

[inland copper]

True, but I couldn’t prove that app was removed 7 months ago.

[upbeat spade]

Rewasd is bannable bc it’s turning your keyboard into controller input with FULL AIM ASSIST. On mouse and keyboard

[acoustic spindle]

AKA cheating

[crimson garden]

Thanks for adding that information friend. Penguin learning by chatting right now 🚀

[upbeat spade]

Mouse and key with aim assist sounds broken

[inland nymph]

I don't get why people have a hissy fit about battlefields aim assist.

[acoustic spindle]

Pc skill issues

[glacial hill]

there is a huge difference in even the recoil pattern on controller vs m+k

[inland nymph]

It isn't even that good as people think it is. It's just the kind of player that play on console who tend to be super ratty.

[dusky marten]

Just gonna ask, is buying phantom edition bf worth it rn? Considering it's less money rn cuz discount. Got cash on Christmas and if I like add 10-20 bucks extra I could get it. Is it worth it?

Just thought I'd throw out the idea, cuz it's like either that or a few bf coins but phantom is tempting...

Haven't bought game yet cuz the shi is expensive, and I didn't feel like throwing the money on it.

[inland nymph]

That isn't aim assist though that is just recoil interaction.

[acoustic spindle]

Season is more than half over you won’t have time to finish the battlepass

[inland nymph]

Phantom edition yeahhhh I would say if you like the skins and the Bf pro token go for it. But you can save it up for the next season.

[dusky marten]

True, that's why I was wondering. Could just wait until it's over, it's basically a dlc, can buy it later.

[acoustic spindle]

The token you can save for season two but idk if the tier skips can be saved. They get used automatically

[glacial hill]

halo infinite had a sort of bullet magnetism aim assist, but bf6 i get to smooth things between the control schemes but the game behaving wildly different recoil/spray pattern or bloom whatever you want to call it, isnt cool

its not the aim assist its a completely different game

[dusky marten]

Hmm. Good advice and valid points NGL out here if say

One step at a time

[river urchin]

Anyone else here wait until they have completed or are close to completing the pass too actually buy it?

[upbeat spade]

I went from mnk to controller for a few games and I won a lot more gunfights and felt much more confident on controller. There was a few instances the aim was a little sticky the first initial aim as well.

[glacial hill]

combine it with some of the attatchments and it does give you an advantage.

console has always had some sort of aim assist, its nothing new but skewing it to behave better on one platform over another is pushing it beyond tolerable

[dusky marten]

I downright can't play on a controller anymore. I went from controller to computer, and every time I try controller again it's so clanky and my movement is so shi. Can't go back even if I prob wanted to, downright just too normal with the sort of hyper movement u can get on PC

For every game I have played with both this is

[spark condor]

BF6 aim assist is pretty mid tbh. Slowdown but strafing breaks it.

[abstract nexus]

I like controller for some games but in shooters I need MnK now

[dusky marten]

Same

[glacial hill]

the netcode is another issue but you know ea always told everyone they're working on it and it wont be a massive improvement (which I agree its not 2005 anymore there shouldnt be network issues but it is what it is)

[abstract nexus]

Im shit at shooters anyway but MnK makes me less shit

[upbeat spade]

I love running from fire and dying around the corner

[dusky marten]

I mean stray for example is ment for controller so then it works, but shooters I need the speed and shi, so then Mnk is the only option for me

[glacial hill]

i also love dying from someone facing 180 degrees from me

[dusky marten]

"I got eyes in my neck bud" ahh shi

[upbeat spade]

This; like when the fuck were you even looking at me

[glacial hill]

oh its definitely desync

[upbeat spade]

Hit reg is also still ass; I have so much clips where It shows every bullet go through a guy

[glacial hill]

and I love how its so wildly different from match to match

one match ill have terrible hitreg the next ill be clowning on people

[upper gyro]

my favorite desync moment from this week is when I went prone behind a mound, watched a tracer whiz above, then die to a "headshot"

[dusky marten]

M82 sniper shh shi, didn't even hit but still rips your head off lol

[tribal zodiac]

What up fellas

[gloomy oracle]

i've realized every time there are multiple high ping (130+) players in the lobby, i die way more to instant 4-5 bullets turning a corner way more than usual, and also have had games where i can spray down 3-4 people in the face without them shooting once. Feels so off.

[tribal zodiac]

Currently waiting in the parking lot to pick my gf up from a work party

[dusky marten]

Sup

[tribal zodiac]

So i probably have an hour to kill lol

[dusky marten]

Neat. What car?

[tribal zodiac]

Im in my wrx rn, i dont drive my nice stuff in the winter

[dusky marten]

Makes sense, winter does.. how could u say, hurt then more maybe would be a description.

Nice stuff should mostly be driven in the summer indeed

[tribal zodiac]

I can remove fist fulls of rocker panels on this car from rust lol

[dusky marten]

Still nice car tho. Isn't that almost the car u can start with in one of the older need for speed campaigns if il not completly delusional. Was long ago I played it, several years

[tribal zodiac]

It has roughly 560,000km and its been a northern car its whole life

[glacial hill]

i'll say, i havent died and watched my camera go yeeting 50ft lately

[dusky marten]

Damn. That's pretty far. And being northern drown, I'm surprised it's not on a junkyard yet. Something must have went right at least along the way

[gloomy oracle]

watch my vid and cry for me #streams-and-videos message

[dusky marten]

Nice clip ngl

[gloomy oracle]

thanks, i got lucky had a nice random teammate who saved my bacon

[dusky marten]

Ya. So do you think using assault rifles would be good for an engineer player. Cuz personally I just for sum reason prefer playing machine guns NGL. I like the ammo capacity and its still does decent damage, sometimes u can just get many beautiful kills.

[gloomy oracle]

depends on style and if you can transfer sprays and track okay

its honestly easier to just use the DRS, or even M416 if kited out

[umbral rune]

How does one heal teammates in heat zones?

I've been placing health supplies around them but haven't gotten a single one??

[dusky marten]

👍

[primal nova]

But some of the lmgs are better at lasering people in bigger maps.

[smoky pike]

Jesus they gotta do something about the claymore's explosion radius, I shot one from twenty metres and it still took half my health off

[reef holly]

i started with the sgx and got it to max rank then switched to scw, maxed, then pw5, maxed and now im on tr7
as engineer
the assault class perk for AR is actually neglibile so you can AR with any other class just as well, the only benefit to smg as engie is better hipfire
my sgx and scw were CQ hipfire builds but i transitioned to more ads play so ARs work good

tr7 absolute goated gun, ttk is insane

[reef holly]

🧢

[smoky pike]

English

[sturdy spindle]

just use the sg553 if u want a assault rifle or smg, it beats both categories

[reef holly]

sg is kinda slow

[sturdy spindle]

sg is same ttk as tr7

[reef holly]

incorrect

[sturdy spindle]

wdym theyre both 167ms

[dusky marten]

Hmm yea I know subs are better for engineers but I have basically never played subs on any game because it feels weird. I usually use machine guns or ARs with a large mag

[reef holly]

whats this based on ?

[dusky marten]

But il look into it

[sturdy spindle]

sg553 33.5 dmg 720rpm = 167ms

[reef holly]

bruh you have to factor damage drop off
tr7 drop off is a lot less, its a 4 shot kill on the furthest target in the firing range

[sturdy spindle]

tr7 also shakes 100x more than the sg553 while sg553 can laser at very far ranges with still low ttk

[acoustic spindle]

The moment you said bruh your opinion became irrelevant

[reef holly]

sg is very accurate yes
but its 6 shot kill at the same range as tr7...
and they have the same ROF

[reef holly]

you play on xbox 😂

[sturdy spindle]

so in other words u have to tap fire the tr7 to reach the accuracy of the sg553 for far ranges while raising ur ttk by tap firing

theres a reason sg553 was the first gun to get nerfed

[acoustic spindle]

Ya and? I don’t have performance and bug issues like the pcs do

[umbral rune]

Anyone here knows how to heal teammates in heat zones?

[spare socket]

All rounder lmg: drs
DPS LMGs: M240L and M123K
Ranged LMG: M250
Ease of use lmg: RPKM with synthetic rounds

All around SMG: SGX
DPS SMG: SCW-10 (vector is a bit of a bullet hose but it also works)
Ease of use/ranged SMG: Mp5

All around assault rifle: NVO or B36a4
DPS Assault rifle: Tr-7 but the M433 is more relaxed
Ranged Assault rifle: AK4d
Ease of use assault rifle: Kord

DPS and all around carbine: SG553 and m4a1 (the latter is easier but the former has more skill expression and range potential)
Ranged carbine: M277

[reef holly]

SG first target: 4 shot kill
2-3: 5 shot
4-5: 6 shot

tr7 first target: 3 shot kill
2-5: 4 shot kill
the only time i have to tap fire on tr7, is a time youd have to tap fire on sg too

[spare socket]

If i had to randomly recommend one gun to a person out of sheer flexibility it's the drs

[acoustic spindle]

Drop supply bags or use your perk at the barrels

[sturdy spindle]

sg553 can full auto every target in the range, and sg can 3 shot before the first target

[gloomy oracle]

again depends on the person i think and play style, for they have thier own use. Shame that LMG's don't actually do suppression like previous games though. To easy for recon snipers.

[umbral rune]

I do that and yet my thing is still at 0/200 bruh

[acoustic spindle]

Seriously need to start directing people to a link of information. This 1000 character full page response shit is getting fucking old

[reef holly]

in the range tr7 can full auto too lol
the only time i have to tap fire is when enemeis are behind cover and only a part of them is visible, same with the SG tho

[umbral rune]

I've been throwing supply bags at the barrels, people get supplies and the number doesn't change

[sturdy spindle]

now do it on headshots only

[reef holly]

you dont have a 100% HS rate

[sturdy spindle]

no cause i prefire, but tr7 literally cannot beam ppl off of headies

[spare socket]

Specifically with this build:
Lightened suppressor-30 points
Heavy extended barrel-10 points
Slim angled grip-25 points
Green laser-10 points
sight of choice (I prefer 2x)-10 points
Standard ammo or penetration ammo- 5 points
fast mag- 10 points.

This exact build has the world record highest kill count total in the game right now of 215 kills. @dusky marten

[reef holly]

good aim + tr7 beats any level aim + SG at <50m

[sturdy spindle]

id say the all arounder LMG is l110 because drs is barely an LMG

[remote void]

So we have operation locker, operation metro and redacted, from previous games, is bf6 gonna get a similar map? Does anyone know?

[spare socket]

I could see that but the DRS is kinda this hybrid that does a lot

[sturdy spindle]

DRS is just an excuse not to run the b36a4

[spare socket]

like a lot

[spare socket]

b3 has some minor validity in some mobility departments tbh. if you're not running support there are some cons to the drs

[sturdy spindle]

good luck to ur accuracy

[spare socket]

like cons that can actually get you killed sometimes

[umbral rune]

Has anyone else here been doing the winter challenges?

[sturdy spindle]

tr7 is also naturally heavier than the sg553

[reef holly]

depends on playstyle though
LMGs are not that great for mobility

[spare socket]

the drs is the exception as it's this weird hybrid of an AR and an LMG

[reef holly]

tbh i havent spent a lot of time with LMGs

[crimson garden]

Big thanks for cool match to BF6. Penguin sent lots of nice bullets over to other side 😃

[reef holly]

once i rank up all smgs, ars and carbine to 50 ill move to LMGs lol

[sturdy spindle]

drs sacrifices too much no matter what, u may as well go full mobility low ttk or fat LMG with big mag and good accuracy

[reef holly]

i havent used either much but my first impressions i preferred the SOR to the SG
but ill get back to you once theyre both max ranked and see if i change my mind lol

[sturdy spindle]

nothing wrong with equipping sg553 on support

[spare socket]

I have all the ars level 50, all the dmrs level 50, all the snipers level 50, and all the lmgs level 50. Halfway through the carbines and smgs and have 5 of the 6 pistols done.

[sturdy spindle]

sor300 is overall weaker sg in every possible way

[reef holly]

yeah

[spare socket]

Xp boosts have been a boon

I got 13 1 hour weapon xp boosts, the battle pass, and 13 1 hour career xp boosts for free which helped a lot lol

[reef holly]

yeah on paper
but it felt better idk
both are rank 5 tho lol so i barely used them

[sturdy spindle]

use this for education #screenshots-and-clips message

[crimson garden]

ADS speed for SG can be very nice and quick according to Penguin + pretty good overall rate of fire & damage

[reef holly]

i mainly play engie so doubt ill ever get dmrs, snipers, pistols or shotties at 50
maybe the svk, mini scout, m87 and m44 if i play other classes

[spare socket]

#screenshots-and-clips message use the gun data to make an opinion on what you want to use yourself tbh

[reef holly]

at that range, i have had tr7 moments that are crazier lol

[spare socket]

It's linked at the bottom here there's the spread plots and the damage/ttk fall off plots

[sturdy spindle]

at that range tr7 just loses cause sg553 aims in faster

[spare socket]

enters 9.1 meters

[jagged phoenix]

the cosmetics sold inside the item shop are limited time items?

[crimson garden]

Penguin can support this statement. Very nice ADS speed possible, which can very much make up for the slight TTK difference

[sturdy spindle]

average fight in a bf6 objective

[reef holly]

nah im just gonna use them all until rank 50 then decide
i have a feeling ill end up picking a gun based on aesthetic lol
the m417/m4a1 and sor 300 i think look the best in unstoppable force

[spare socket]

nah I'm just saying how the moment you exit like 9 meters the fall off just kicks in and your ttk is suddenly super different

[spare socket]

that's partly why I'm pushing all the guns to 50 tbh. To say that my experiences have aligned with the data would be pretty accurate so far for me

[sturdy spindle]

250ms still kills majority of the guns in the game

[spare socket]

though I have had a few surprises. I liked the GRT and SOR300C more than I thought I would but it was for a silly reason

something something handstop+green laser+cqb suppressor

dolphin dive shooting people is really funny.

[reef holly]

mines 167ms on the stat screen with attachments

[sturdy spindle]

sg553 is 133ms

[spare socket]

they're referring to ttk in the post 9 meter range not ads speed

[reef holly]

i replied to a message about ads speed lol

[spare socket]

oh i'm illiterate

[reef holly]

i see
i havent got all the tr7 attachments yet tho idk if i can reduce it more

[spare socket]

2:30 am moment ig. I should go to bed lol

[sturdy spindle]

i think, i forgot

ik to bring tr7 down 2 ads stats, u have to sacrifice ur barrel

[spare socket]

the light barrel has a weird bug where it says it gives faster ads speed but it doesn't show it in the stats screen (it does provide it in game tho)

[reef holly]

anyway im kinda glad theres so much ranking up to do on these guns
but it triggers my OCD that 50 isnt max rank, i thought i could get them all maxed but it seems to be infinite...

[latent belfry]

how the fuck do you do this heal teammates in heat zones challenge. i just spent an entire game sitting in high activity areas with my team throwing supply bags on heat zones and got ZEROOOOOO

[reef holly]

using the light barrel it dropped from 200 to 167 on the stat screen, if its even less in game thats sick

[reef holly]

throw supply bags near heat zones and spam pouches at them
but tbhy my answer is dont bother with that challenge, i just skipped it lol

[latent belfry]

well i havent gotten supply pouches yet but ima do one more game of this. it already SUCKS enough that they made this event on the WORST MAP IN THE GAME

[sturdy spindle]

not for tr7

[sturdy spindle]

wdym nyc is an amazing map

[spare socket]

nah like when you stack light barrel and slim angled grip

[latent belfry]

its 100% worst map in bf6

[spare socket]

when you do just one of them the effect goes through. When you do both it sometimes doesn't

[sturdy spindle]

it happens when u do 3 methods of ads lowering, including the mag size

[spare socket]

Eh it's more like 3rd worst for me. Sobek and blackwell are way worse

sobek is in a class of its own in ass

[sturdy spindle]

actually no some guns just have weird effect with light barrel

[sturdy spindle]

whats wrong with those maps theyre all good

[reef holly]

ah
i def will never lower mag size lol

[spare socket]

you play breakthrough, domination, and king of the hill

[sturdy spindle]

i play anything

[flat basin]

Any platoon guys ?

[sturdy spindle]

i miss sabotage

[reef holly]

the only map i dont play is blackwell
cause for some reason when its in my rotation it ONLY gives me back to back games on it
and also thers no cover anywhere so i just die to snipers when im trying to kill tanks

i also dont play that other small map cause i only do conquest/escalation

[spare socket]

I find there are routes you can in fact completely avoid snipers tbh. I know a lot of unique out of bounds flanks you can do with the buggy speed boost and the MRAPs.

Eastwood has some too (this is conquest only)

[reef holly]

i only played blackwell the day it came out and after like 8 back to back games of it ONLY putting me on blackwell i just unchecked it from my custom search

[spare socket]

lol

I actually did some king of the hill and breakthrough when leveling up some of my guns on double xp since I had to make the most of those boosters while I could

some of the maps i hate on conquest are decent on those modes tbh

[reef holly]

sobek can be annoying with snipers on inaccessible buildings
but its fun to rpg tanks and helis

[spare socket]

Sobek and liberation peak are the only 2 maps in the entire game I ever end up switching to assault on. With some rare cases on other maps but still

[reef holly]

i think all maps are good on those modes
but yeah theyre really stingy with the xp boosters, they should only count during games not matchmaking/lobby
or make them longer

[spare socket]

king of the hill was really fast to level up weapons with in my experience since you can get a lot of objective kills (which are double the value of regular kills)

[reef holly]

same i used to go assault on sobek & lib for DMR + deploy beacon
but now im engineer on all except empire state, cause theres no benefit to engie and HE + shotgun is fun

[spare socket]

I personally run breacher, grenade launcher, frag grenades, spawn beacon, and a flexible gun of choice.

I alternatively run front liner, spawn beacon, frags, spawn beacon, shotgun, and a long range weapon of choice

breacher giving an extra grenade off of spawn is really really cool imo

this actually doubles down for your grenade launcher btw

so you straight up can spawn with 2 frag grenades and 3 shots in your grenade launcher vs 1 frag and 2 shots in your launcher with breacher equipped.

very good if I need to keep spawning on that beacon and harass a point constantly cuz I just spawn utility dump and get like 5-10 kills. Die. Repeat

[dusky marten]

Will be saving this for the future as reference. Thanks

[spare socket]

welcome if you want more extensive gun data to make a more personal decision use this #screenshots-and-clips message

the gun data is linked below in 2 links

[dusky marten]

Will be looking into it, thanks

[granite igloo]

I call liberation peak sniper peak

[silent vigil]

Accurate

Sniper Fest

[kindred tangle]

Just because it’s kernel doesn’t mean cheats are not easy to use. I run into a cheater everyday on BR

[spare socket]

This is why I need a spawn beacon on liberation peak tbh

and sobek frankly

[tight prism]

I never encountered a cheater in bf6

[spare socket]

once you break through the line with help from support smokes in a coordinated squad you need to put down a beacon asap

[steep sorrel]

for support whats the differance between supply bag and supply pouch?

[reef holly]

i honestly rarely have an issue with snipers now
beta/launch was insanely bad though
sobek is the only sniperfest i see these days
firestorm rarely

[spare socket]

the supply bag gives constant gadget refresh, constant 20hp/s, and refreshes ammo constantly within the area.

The supply pouch is a one time use pick up that gives 40 hp healed gradually, 2 mags of ammo, and a bit of gadget refresh (not much)

[reef holly]

any f2p its expected tbh

[steep sorrel]

ok ok now i understand thanks

[reef holly]

the extra grenades are nice but i use frontliner for health regen
just cause my playstyle i often flank/rush groups of enemies solo so the regen perk is crucial

[kindred tangle]

Ik but I was more or less saying their anti cheat isn’t that good

[spare socket]

I never touch BR and in conquest I have encounterd a grand total of 1 cheater in my time (I think I have about 300 hours ish)

this cheater was also banned mid game

so I was happy

[kindred tangle]

Yeah BR is where they at

[spare socket]

turns out banning an account on a paid copy of the game tied to an account is way more efficient than a free game where you can make infinite accounts on

[reef holly]

it seems pretty good but yeah every anti cheat can be bypassed

[spare socket]

regardless the devs cited that there are less than 2% of cheaters across all games

[reef holly]

i assume thats for bf6 overall not redsec

[spare socket]

given multiplayer likely buffers that number with br specifically having more

[kindred tangle]

I don’t believe it for redsec

[spare socket]

bf6 as a whole yes redsec+mp.

The MP games likely buffer the BR games

the raw MP stats are likely much smaller and the BR stats larger but 🤷‍♂️

idk that's all the numbers dice publicized so

[reef holly]

id say 99% of the cheaters are in redsec
so its probs more like 5% for that

actually that still seems crazy high
even 2% is kinda high
thats 1 out of 20 or 1 out of 50

[spare socket]

1 out of 50

wait... how in the shizz is that or 1 out of 20 lmao

[reef holly]

5% is 1 out of 20

[spare socket]

oh you mean br specifically. yeah idk that number so I can't comment on it

[plain mica]

DUAL STREAM WITH A EA DEV top 100 wins in the world https://www.twitch.tv/decipie

[glacial hill]

im finding them more in casual breakthrough than the regular modes

which is funny given the fact that if you cheat in a casual mode your a very sad person

their kernel level anti cheat is only going to keep the script kiddies away for so long

[spare socket]

What's funny is if dice refines portal to be more like the server browser with favoriting and sorting features, removes bot xp from the mode to have the sorting options not default to bot farming lobbies, and opens the full sandbox as an option (ie you can use all attachments, weapons, gadgets, etc in portal no limits) then portal might become the best place for custom game modes and moderated servers

because the cool thing is if you ban a player from your server as a server owner they aren't getting back in.

Kinda the only reason bf4 is hacker free on moderated servers these days

[glacial hill]

dice doesnt want that

they decided group punishment is a better solution than finding a middle ground that'll make everyone happier

[spare socket]

the middle ground is basically what I said tbh. I just hope they opt for it.

Opening the sandbox pleases the casual crowd that just wanna play portal and not deal with the multiplayer or its progression system. It also allows portal creators to make fun custom game modes without concern that a player doesn't have access to a particular gadget, weapon, or the like

Removing the bot xp is just a safety measure to clear up the browser from being polluted with xp farming servers

Like imma be real with you. I don't really care at all if someone is xp farming.

I just care that the amount of people doing it is seemingly so much that it's polluting the entire browser to a degree of it being unusable for actually fun experiences becoming more popular naturally, unless dice hand picks them and gives them spotlight

[glacial hill]

Oh I agree 100% I dont like gatekeeping

but i also dislike group punishment

casual breakthrough is a joke of a casual mode

[pastel zinc]

I received the 2042 pass gift in the mail, but I don't have the corresponding reward. Is there anyone like me?

[glacial hill]

But yea, no ones going to take portal seriously beyond the what, 6 servers that are a mix between hardcore, standard ruleset and the flight practice?

Who wants to come home from working 10+ hours to fight with 12 yearolds and the unemployed and think its "fun"

[olive sparrow]

playstation looking to play battle royale lmk

[somber galleon]

Guys what's going on with portal? Are they ever going to add bot xp back?

[glacial hill]

dead silence about it

we'll just have to take our 150% completion xp and like it

[somber galleon]

Ok so portal dead then. I am currently leveling my guns up in casual breathrough and I am getting annoyed because people keep killing me when I'm trying to focus on killing bots.

[acoustic spindle]

No this is a multiplayer game not pve

[glacial hill]

wrong

you know portal was advertised with full experience right?

nice try ragebaiting

[hard shuttle]

are there any ways to get developer items

[glacial hill]

So say we want those sweet conquest servers back from 3 that had 300% tickets, nope not allowed to have full xp even on that with no bots

[hard shuttle]

I've been trying to contact DICE workers but didn't get replies from them yet

[pastel zinc]

too many bugs

[spare socket]

wait what

[somber galleon]

I am currently 36/50 guns maxed out. I did all the easy guns first. Now I am on DMR's, snipers, shotguns, and pistols and I am completely losing my mind. There's no good way to level these trash guns in normal lobbies. You just get beamed at 100 meters from people using TR7, SCW10, and KV9.

[spare socket]

Man

[somber galleon]

Dice need to do something about this insane grind and the fact that some guns are just terrible against real people.

[spare socket]

Really makes my time spent getting the lmgs, dmrs, snipers, and ars to level 50 in matchmaking feel kinda painful but oh well

[spare socket]

I would make it so levels 1-40 are easy but 41-50 are harsh. beyond 50 it can be as it is rn

[pastel zinc]

I finished the pass and got the reward. I also received an email in Battlefield 6, but I didn't get a reward.

[acoustic spindle]

Don’t care. Bot farmers are trash

[spare socket]

oh not sure then I got my rewards a while ago

[spare socket]

Levels 1-40 give you all the attachments for the gun

[glacial hill]

"how dare people want to play their way in a game they paid for with the promise of something that was taken away"

[acoustic spindle]

Good for them

[spare socket]

I mean if dice just unrestricted the sandbox in portal I dont really see an issue there but that's just me.

If they want to play the game killing bots they can without limits

[somber galleon]

I just came here to vent my frustration with the game and my goal of maxing all the guns legitimately. Hopefully Dice can get their heads out of their asses and do something about it.

[glacial hill]

dont care blocked you have nothing to useful to say go away

[acoustic spindle]

Blocking people in discord is pathetic

[vestal canopy]

The problem is that it started affecting the portal experience overall as well. There were too many bot farmers, so other players couldn't use the mode.

[acoustic spindle]

Admission of defeat lol

[somber galleon]

You are blocked goodbye. Waste everyone's time with your troll comments.

[acoustic spindle]

This. The bot farmers ruined the server browser experience on portal for the rest of us. So I have zero sympathy

[glacial hill]

So they kill it entirely?

somanything outside the standard verified ruleset rewards nothing but 150% match completion?

[acoustic spindle]

One blocked message

[spare socket]

or yk just uncap the sandbox

[crimson garden]

Rewards worked without any issue to Penguin, hopefully you can receive it soon friend! 😃 Not fair to be left out 😮

[spare socket]

if players want to experience the sandbox in portal let them.

the progression system is in retrospect designed for multiplayer in mind and doesn't really work with portal at all

if anything it outright limits portal creators from making fun experiences with the mode.

[acoustic spindle]

Be careful he blocks anyone who has an opposing opinion lol

[spare socket]

there's a reason halo infinite forge was super successful the entire sandbox is always accessible for portal users to use. always has been for the halo franchise with portal (given it's an arena shooter but still)

[pastel zinc]

I gave feedback to the ea staff, but there was only one questionnaire. Do I have to send an email to them?

[spare socket]

I stated halo Infinite specifically since it has campaign and spartan ai which is way more advanced and has custom pathing within forge and more

hell that shizz is free

[heavy ruin]

Bubu

[acoustic spindle]

The difference being that halo didn’t have a weapon progression system. Just a cosmetic season pass system. So there was no exploitable way to gain advantage by farming bots. I don’t care what anyone says. It’s cheap and exploitive to farm bots to get weapon attachments and weapon packages faster than playing the game normally like the rest of us as intended.

[glacial hill]

Its backwards logic, actually theres none in it

They can't even elaborate on WHY, we know why but clogging up the portal browser is a lame excuse

No ones going to play on portal with no progression beyond a crumb of xp for your meaningless rank once past what...49?

No mastery, no accolades nothing, not even a reduced amount

so you're going to see no effort beyond what rpgs and golf carts? yeah its fun

but you kill the creativity in its infancy because bot farms?

little backwards eh?

[spare socket]

you get xp from player kills

[crimson garden]

Penguin suggest: 1. Check EA forum for others with similar issue if there's a working solution or not. In worse case you can also contact support directly on the EA website chat.

[spare socket]

ok i'll just make a small list

[inland nymph]

DICE should really drop portal and just make private servers in general rentable again.

[spare socket]

-Have it so turning off the bot backfill option enables full xp gains and accolade acquisition in portal.
-Keep bot xp entirely off.
-Give an option that gives players "full sandbox access" which enables all attachments, weapons, gadgets, etc to be usable for fun custom game modes
-Allow the ability to favorite certain servers and server codes
-Add a bunch of sorting options.

there

[glacial hill]

id play the hell out of 300% ticket conquest

[inland nymph]

The problem with portal is that this community can never be trusted to make something good.

[spare socket]

one word proves you wrong: halo

[inland nymph]

You have people abusing the system to become level 1000 and it kills general credit to peoples achievements.

[acoustic spindle]

Solution is simple. Put full progression in all approved portal lobbies, even the ones with bot backfill, just make it so bot kills themselves give zero progression or xp.

[inland nymph]

How am I wrong? The community just makes XP farms and as a result there are people barely running AOW servers.

[glacial hill]

But its okay that the people that did can just gatekeep it from everyone else

[inland nymph]

In the case of halo at least the intent is for custom fun maps which by the way is amazing.

[spare socket]

@inland nymph do this.

Also bot xp was recently removed in portal

[inland nymph]

I just cannot in general trust this community to do anything good with what they are given.

[spare socket]

halo

I could elaborate on that but you know exactly what I mean

[timber wind]

yeeee, i get what you mean. Suck when there is a server like faithwalker where they didn't have bots in general throughout the game, seed the 20 player games for stats, but there isn't any portal feature to make more things more hardcore like/admin smooth for example:

1. infantry reticles and vehicle reticles are linked so you have to have one or the other in hardcore games when it shouldn't be like that.
2. having the kill feed to monitor those the TK over vehicles/on purpose is linked to the hit markers which shouldn't be in the game for hardcore

[spare socket]

if you don't I'm going to assume you've never played halo forge

[inland nymph]

I acknowledged halo and from the get go it was acknowledged for custom wacky games which is GOOD.

Oh nah I have grown up with forge so how I know it is for its custom modes.

[hard shuttle]

are there any ways to contact DICE official workers via discord?

[acoustic spindle]

There is no world where bot kills in any mode or form should give progression beyond the casual breakthrough mode. Even then they should put a daily limit on bot xp to prevent the high levels from just farming in there. It’s a complete joke of a system that has rendered leaderboards, stats, accolades meaningless in this game

No. Have to use ea support forums

[glacial hill]

"I got to have my fun but you're not allowed to play the game how you want because I had to work hard to get where I am at"

asinine logic to have

[spare socket]

-You wanna know why this game doesn't have custom whacky game modes?
Because the sandbox limits tied to progression restrict players from using key sandbox items that game modes need to function. Halo did not have this issue

-You wanna know why the browser is polluted with a bunch of nonsense?
Because bot farming lobbies polluted the entire experience. Halo did not have this issue

-Lastly, you wanna know why people can't consistently interact and form a community around portal properly?
Because there is an extreme lack of good sorting options and an ability to favorite servers and custom experiences for yourself. Halo did not have this issue

[acoustic spindle]

It’s asinine to buy a multiplayer game with the intent of playing bots. That’s your problem

[spare socket]

just fix this. Take inspiration from the literal game that made custom game modes and server browsing a popular thing and staple in fps games in the first place

[inland nymph]

The core of the issue is that DICE cannot be bothered moderating their own servers so they leave things to rot.

[glacial hill]

See the problem is if you bring it back all the gatekeeping tryhards come out of the woodwork to tell us how we should spend our limited time in the day and finger wag at us.

[spare socket]

?

[glacial hill]

Bot xp outside of the casual playlist

[spare socket]

why do you want this

can you explain what the usage of the bot xp is for.

[glacial hill]

Why do i want this?

because I don't want to have to come home after busting my rear end in a factory for 10 hours to wade through the cesspit of the unemployed and kids to have fun?

[spare socket]

great.

Now what if hear me out. We had a feature in portal where you could unrestrict the entire sandbox to anyone in your server.

[spare socket]

what if you oh idk.... had the entire sandbox the moment you log in on a level 1 account in portal

[acoustic spindle]

Simple. If someone doesn’t have the time to put effort into grinding a game they shouldn’t buy said game. Buy what you have time for. Not the main player bases of a game developers problem to change a game to cater to casuals so they can cheat code their way to faster progression.

[glacial hill]

you
get
NO
PROGRESSION

[spare socket]

why does that matter? you're the person who is

"busting my rear end in a factory for 10 hours to wade through the cesspit of the unemployed and kids to have fun?"

Why do you want this arbitrary number designed for multiplayer to mean anything to you?

Just play portal and you have the entire sandbox in my theortetical solution. The point of progression in this game are 2 things:
1: sandbox access
2: completionism for actual effort put into the grind

[crimson garden]

Penguin worried, notices time ticking & only 2 days left of cool Winter Offensive update ⏰ Should any more winter content be expected after the end of Winter offensive? 🧊 ⛸️

[spare socket]

dog I'm confused can you answer the question

i'm not even trying to be hostile or anything just trying to udnerstand things here.

[acoustic spindle]

They always resort to insults and name calling

[spare socket]

if you had full access to the sandbox in portal what does the progression even matter to you?

the progression is literally a sandbox limitation designed for multiplayer that makes someone dealing with personal stuff unable to access the sandbox as easily but it is designed as a limiter to make earning attachments in multiplayer feel rewarding

if you have full sandbox access in portal

what are you gaining from the progression system exactly?

if you can answer this question in a meaningful way I'll concede my stance

[acoustic spindle]

The guy wants to play bots and get full progress because he bought a game that typically requires hundreds of hours over long period of time to legitimately earn and unlock everything, even though he knows he doesn’t the time or skill to actually do it so they want easy mode way to get to the same result 100 times faster.

If you know you suck at fps why the fuck would you buy one lol

[spare socket]

you're not helping yk

[acoustic spindle]

Not here to help. The complainers need to leave

[spare socket]

It's a trend I've noticed that isn't healthy for anyone.

anyways my lecture video ended I gtg do practice problems

[acoustic spindle]

Oh well. The bot farmers and xp exploiters are a cancer to gaming.

[spare socket]

only reason I'm ever on here is to keep my brain a lil more active when listening to lecture videos when studying for a 6 hour exam (I'm on hour 11 of my study session and gotta head to bed soon)

ciao for a now ig.

[inland dust]

anyone know how to finish engineer specialist challenge 2? no matter what i try, i can't figure out how to get this. the worst part is that I've somehow gotten 3 out of 15 when I haven't tried to get this challenge. is it bugged? It's definitely not "just destroy or support in destroying" 15 aircraft as engineer...

[fiery oxide]

I did that by using the AA tank

[inland dust]

yeah i just tried that, got both choppers and jets (one confirmed destroyed), and several that i manage to hit with bullets, but still no progress

[inland nymph]

I wound up striking a transport helo twice with my RPG and got it. xD

[inland dust]

I've hit choppers with RPGs and the two other anti aircraft launchers, no progress

[crimson garden]

Nice move friend, Penguin huge fan of seeing nice rocket taking down what's flying 🚀 😎

[fiery oxide]

Are you tracking the challenge, if you are untrack it

[inland dust]

i did that a few weeks back when i read about it, but still no go 🙁

Ive even tried just shooting at aircrafts, as I read someone did that online, still nothing

so fustrating, its the only thing i have left on those challenges, challenge 3 seems like a breeze compared to this, been stuck at it for probably a month

[cedar briar]

if your doing the damage one, dont destroy it, you only need to hit it

[fiery oxide]

Tracking in portal usually works so maybe try playing a few cq matches on there would do it

[inland nymph]

I didn't kill it.

[inland dust]

cheers for the tips guys! but does anyone know exactly what one is supposed to do?

[inland nymph]

I wish the mp5 could arm an underbarreled GL and it would come out as an m203. Practically being a half life reference.

[inland dust]

you mean conquest on a comunity map with aircraft?

[fiery oxide]

Ye

[cedar briar]

Escilation is good fore the engineer assignments, maps like mirak valley are flooded with air vehicles towards the end

Which one are you doing, Engineer or Engineer specialist?

[inland dust]

cheers for the tips! I don't really strugle finding maps and modes with air vehicles, just getting this challenge to progress

[inland dust]

engineer specialist 2, i need this one, and the next one, and then i've completed all class assignment challenges

[cedar briar]

ah, I used a tank to do specialist 2

[inland dust]

yeah ive tried tanks, now im trying the AA cheeta but still having no luck even though i got at least one confirmed destroyed chopper

[placid wyvern]

I hate having to choose between long matchmaking times for bot-filled lobbies and playing against superior input devices.

[cedar briar]

if the tank shell kills and isn't counting, be greedy, wait for someone else to get it low health and use the HMG and see if it counts from that

Jeep mounted also does dmg to air vehicles and should work

[reef holly]

i just rpg heli and it worked

[cedar briar]

It seems to work for somepeople and not others, my friend used the RPG and it didn't count for more than half

[inland dust]

yeah i hit a chopper with my rpg and it didnt count, was so pissed i had to take a break hahahah

[tribal zodiac]

This would help a lot of people in better spending their time lol

Speaking of, i should be passing 60k kills today

Which is gonna put me around #50 for player kills lol

[cedar briar]

how is the bucket holding 🤣

[dapper sluice]

SpookyCivic

[tribal zodiac]

Thats a prelude

[winged tide]

Anyone else having trouble playing on bf6 like every game just utter lag the entire game. I’m jump through walls every corner 😂

[reef holly]

@sturdy spindle i just tried out sg for 2 matches
my aim is trash with it
somehow i aim better with tr7 lol

[reef holly]

wrong gen

[tribal zodiac]

Is that not a 3rd gen prelude lmao

[jagged oxide]

Mythbusters by Defend The House just made a holiday episode and they do some wild stuff with this game's physics. Very festive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha7MUXk3RwU

[tender lotus]

Do any of u play arc?

[reef holly]

should be a 5th gen

[tribal zodiac]

I had a 5th gen prelude, thats a 3rd

[reef holly]

i had 8 5th gen preludes and a 3rd
im saying the pic should be a 5th gen
5th gen superiority

[tribal zodiac]

Oh i see

Idk, i never really cared for how front-heavy they were and id have definitely liked an f20 instead of the h22

[reef holly]

the 3rd gen should exist
the interior was aight and pop up headlights
but we should forget its existence

[reef holly]

naah i loved the h22s
and the front heavy was fun cause on bald rear tyres you can basically drift a fwd car 😂

every prelude i bought i ended up parting out or selling as a shell, 4 years ago got rid of them all
2 years ago they doubled in price here 💀

[tribal zodiac]

Mine was $800

And it was a type SH

Yeah i learned to never buy a type SH again

Parts support who

[untold cove]

damn how am i supposed to get 6k points in a single KOTH match

[opal wharf]

damn who approved that cover for the golf carts and rpgs mode

i mean i was looking for a reason to uninstall this game but i didn't think it'd be as stupid as that

[cedar briar]

play support, drop a box and stay in the objective, points count quick

[balmy citrus]

🦖

[wild crypt]

did they break the repair challenges again? trying to do engi specialist 3 and nothing is counting

[misty yew]

Apparently. You're not the only one having that problem

[wild crypt]

ffs

you'd think this would be a relatively simple thing for them to track, since you get points for repairing allied vehicles..

[misty yew]

You would think

[spare socket]

play support or recon

recon gets assists via spots from the proximity sensor you can use c-4 and claymores to kill approaching opponents

support has cover, revives, and supply bags for score

Most of all ensure you're squad leader and mark the king of the hill objective constantly each time your team takes control of it with a squad member all members of your squad recieve 100 points

It's pretty easy for me frankly I use king of the hill to farm some weapon levels for certain guns. Kills on the hill give you 200 score which lets you progress weapons a lot faster vs 100

[fiery oxide]

Objective time/kills gives you alot of score too

[cedar briar]

It's a portal experience, anyone can create their own image for it.. not like it has to be approved by anyone first or a rule what you cant use.

[opal wharf]

that wasn't my experience with it, when I tried building an experience I only got a preset selection of icons for maps and modes

presumably so you don't upload obscenities

[cedar briar]

at the end of the images tehre is a + to use your own

[wild crypt]

im assuming koth is probably also the best mode to do the 'spot enemies on objective' chjallenge for recon since most of the enemies will be concentrated in a relatively sma;l area?

[rich torrent]

Attack on BT.

[cedar briar]

https://pasteboard.co/6h1ntOMoEQHL.png

also could only be a pro option if not everyone can do it

[opal wharf]

well i guess this is what disabling "show player created content" is for

rarely does seeing something make me feel disgusted but somehow that did it

[wild crypt]

do i even want to know what it was

[ivory gull]

so i just woke up from a coma

[cedar briar]

ai art one someone's portal experience

[opal wharf]

it looks really bad and gives a bad impression since it's on the front page of the game

[rich torrent]

DICE don't care, they are also selling ai art in the store.

[opal wharf]

yeah i did see that sticker too

[subtle portal]

Go back

[opal wharf]

luckily it's a continuation of the fact that nothing in the store looks worth buying

[rich torrent]

I hope Steam jumps onto DICE with that "ai content" tag.

[river urchin]

I’m sorry what? Dice has thrown in AI content into BF6

[rich torrent]

Yep, sticker in the store.

And by Steams guidelines, they need to acknowledge that with an ai content tag.

[opal wharf]

ticks all the boxes:

• bad hands
• trigger welded to magazine
• two ejection ports
• two barrels?

classic slop

[river urchin]

Op yep just googled it up the hell dice was thinking to put AI in games?

[opal wharf]

couldn't even put two ounces of effort in. couldn't pose a character with the character poser and put the little snowflake layer on top. that's just too difficult

[rich torrent]

Just as bad as COD at this point.

[tawdry cipher]

The ai id disappointing but who knows where they get the designs so it may have slipped passed, as long as they see we arnt a fan of it they should be stricter on checking

[opal wharf]

just delete it from the store honestly

[river urchin]

I’ve been saying there’s no love
,care or passion for BF6 at all it’s just low effort it was only a matter of time till they just got lazy and started using AI

[rich torrent]

If they use any Ai at all, they need to get the Ai content tag on Steam and the devs have come out and said they don't use any.

So they are lying.

[tawdry cipher]

It may have slipped past product control, so maybe they didnt even notice. Maybe a designer found it or a fan made it but atm we dont know. They should remove it and make it apology but they are currently on holidays so it may be a tiny wait

But knowing them they will remove it and change it like they did with the crow pack

[rich torrent]

Regardless of if it passed or not, if Ai is used in any way, shape or form - Steam needs to know to apply the Ai tag.

[river urchin]

True That

[wild crypt]

ugh even this recon challenge for spotting using gadgets on adjectives is being inconsistent. i literally had my drone flying at virtually ground level in the object and no dice

[ivory gull]

wow

[tribal zodiac]

@ivory gull 5 min snack break

[ivory gull]

GRAAAHHHH

[tribal zodiac]

That and i need to get my gf some water

[next verge]

Does anyone know if the BR Challenge 5 is still bugged? The one where you have to reach maximum training level twice. I do not want to unnecessarily play BR, as its not much fun for me

[river urchin]

AH 64s or AH 1Zs in Battlefield?

[tribal zodiac]

Level 250 today surely

[ivory gull]

me? hell nah

[tribal zodiac]

Fire up them double xp tokens

[ivory gull]

maybe next week i can lol

[misty yew]

It took me a while to do that one, but you'll get it

[ivory gull]

if we get humans i will fs, i need to stop being a blue little chud and ascend into my looksmaxed red star era

[tribal zodiac]

Also did you just get on lmfao

[ivory gull]

yes i feel asleep

[tribal zodiac]

Well you'll be on long enough to get some human lobbies

[ivory gull]

yeah i might play for like 3 hours and then sleep again for work

[tawdry cipher]

They may just remove it before they even mark it or at least communicating it (is hope) not sure how big the window is before steam does something

[rich torrent]

It must be done before release, so I'm assuming that's before release for all new content too.

Failing to comply with these guidelines will result in your game being removed from Steam.

Which then effects majority of PC players.

[ivory gull]

oh damn apparently i got a marauder 30 and i forgot to record it, beating out my last one of 28. when tf did i get this

[tribal zodiac]

Reminder that like 98% of power comes from boiling water

[ivory gull]

if only it came from the funny magic glowy rocks that boil the water then we’d be a real country

[tribal zodiac]

Mfw we crack the power code but 2 plants fuck it up for everyone

[tribal zodiac]

Aight im starting in 2 min

[ivory gull]

[wild crypt]

this bs for spotting people on objectives with recon gadgets is going to be the death of me with its inconsistency

[acoustic spindle]

If an ai generated thumbnail in a game is all it take for you to quit and uninstall a game then you a ❄️

[opal wharf]

no it was a number of things but this just broke the camel's back. it just sapped all hope of the game improving out of me

[tribal zodiac]

Also if i buy the battlepass after i max it out does it just give me everything @ivory gull

[ivory gull]

i think so, if it functions like every other game it should

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah mines done, may buy it

[ivory gull]

i liked the irish skins in it and a few of the weapon packages were cool but i definitely could’ve lived without them lol

although i will say the vehicle skins are really cool

[tribal zodiac]

I just want all the xp tokens

[ivory gull]

oh yeahhhh

imagine if you could transfer

[celest tartan]

There are several things I dont understand about battlefield 6 and I would be very grateful if someone could explain me or tell me the logical reasons behind them:

1. Why is the grind so long? Specially on the guns. Like Ive seen less ammount of grind in free to play games that depend on such things as premium accounts that gave a lot more XP.

2. Why am I seeing people using light machine guns with accuracy up to 200m? Didnt know they were automatic sniper rifles or something to be honest, thought they would have more recoil.

3. Why while being at level fifty something, am I facing people at level 200 or even 400?

4. Why do sniper rifles have such a thing as scope glare or glint? Or even use a tracer round? In real life, I thought snipers were meant to be more or less stealthy. Ive heard before that snipers would be OP if they didnt have such things in the game, but it requires a good certain ammount of skill to hit a moving target at range.

Disclaimer: I dont consider a super pro or very good to be honest at shooters, but Im not too bad either, I just want to understand certain aspects of the game.

I havent mention anything about bugs and glitches but I assume they will fix them sometime

[tribal zodiac]

Everything you just said is a non-issue or a skill issue

[celest tartan]

How come?

[ivory gull]

1. it’s meant to be a multi year game
2. thats the entire point of an LMG
   3)because level means nothing other time played
   4)this isnt real life and snipers need to be balanced

[barren shuttle]

Youjiggasbunz

[subtle portal]

4. snipers are op in this game

[ivory gull]

bane of my existence

[tribal zodiac]

Even better is im streaming right now if he really wants to see what snipers are actually capable of

[slender hull]

#4 is because then the game would be a snipe fast i understand that players want realistic 100% but maybe they could add a custom server setting to lover them alot when doing a portal match

[celest tartan]

1. Being a multi year game doesnt justify spending 30 hours in the game and having my sniper rifle in level 29.
2. I highly doubt LMGs can or should be abble to counter sniper rifles at 200m like that.
3. It surely means experience and difference in skill of course.
4. Balance means deleting their whole tactical advantage?

[subtle portal]

link your tracker pls

[wild crypt]

you'd probably get shot by snipers less if you ran from cover to cover instead of running across the open

[celest tartan]

Yeah I dont do that mate, Ive had more or less decent matches sniping and always try to use as much cover as I can

[cedar briar]

it doesnt take 30 hours to get a gun to 29. you can get to 50 in 10

[tribal zodiac]

I have 220 hours on a sniper and its level 640 or something

[subtle portal]

You have 0.97 kd dude

[celest tartan]

What do you mean?

[wild crypt]

and i spend plenty of time running around doing stupid shit and dying repeatedly to get challenges done. what is your point?

[ivory gull]

not if you’re really bad lmao

[celest tartan]

I dont think K/D is such a relevant thing on this game, rather playing the objective and helping the team

[ivory gull]

it absolutely is

[subtle portal]

To see if your opinion on the current state of snipers in the game is relevant

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah you seem to have no clue how things really work on this game

[cedar briar]

objecitve time will earn more xp to your weapon than a kill will

[celest tartan]

No, I use snipers

[subtle portal]

Yep

Anything below 2 K/D = opinion is irrelevant

[celest tartan]

Well, in my own case, no matter how the game works, I try to help the team as much as I can, even if I have to die more to capture a point

[wild crypt]

yeah, i definitely hqave no idea what is going on with snipers despite an almost 3.0 k/d on recon and almost 1000 kills on my msr

[opal wharf]

you literally have 36,000 kills on that gun

[fiery oxide]

Anyone with a low kd is bleeding tickets so yes it does matter

[tribal zodiac]

And?

[subtle portal]

Your recon kd is 1.28 lol

[wild crypt]

ah i was looking at kda but still. Whateever, I'm not about to get into an internet argument about this stupid shit lol

[celest tartan]

Agreed, I rather play the objective here

[tribal zodiac]

Found the ticket thief

[subtle portal]

They have to remove sweetspot and add flinch when getting shot at (direct hits) to snipers

[opal wharf]

oh i see you exclusively play breakthrough

[celest tartan]

Yeah, might aswell use a lamp post bulb as the sniper glare

[opal wharf]

yeah it's easier to grind on breakthrough. every other mode increases grind 10x

[mortal dust]

is there any bugs with Challenges atm? Nothing i do is counting...

[tribal zodiac]

And im top of the board every game, sniping close quarters with a high kd and a 75% winrate

[fiery oxide]

conquest and bt have a comparable amount of xp/grind

[opal wharf]

hardware XP is just easier on bt

conquest can give good player XP but that doesn't help with attachment grinds

[tribal zodiac]

Conquest gives an absolutely insane amount of xp for playing obj, bt sucks for obj xp

[thin valve]

What did they did with sbmm and matchmaking overall last day? Thats insanely hard….i was every game 1st…now at the end of scoreboard

[mortal dust]

can only mean one thing.....

[tribal zodiac]

Most of your breakthrough xp is going to come from kills

[subtle portal]

skill issue?

[thin valve]

Lol skill isue? Absolutely from top scoreboard now on the bottom? That doesnt make sense

[tribal zodiac]

Dont have this issue

[subtle portal]

There is no sbmm

[fiery oxide]

Maybe you were playing the Initiation playlist before

[tranquil nest]

Hey all! Would anyone happen to know the record for most kills in a match with a sniper?

[mortal dust]

So many bugs atm... no repairpoints given, nothing... ffs.

[thin valve]

Guys i have 250 hours in game, i mean…i notice a change when it happens…

[fiery oxide]

nothing changed

[subtle portal]

Maybe this
https://youtu.be/MoDme72T0fY?si=IMgl_ua66WoSwVW2

[tribal zodiac]

And i have 450, nothing changed

[void crow]

The devs are lost and each time you connect something changed. A weapon, a map, an amount of vehicles, or new sized objectives. It's lottery every day

[placid wyvern]

Now discovering this game has kbm support on consoles.

[heavy ruin]

It even had kbm support on beta

[inland nymph]

huh I have 251 hours of in game time as well.

[placid wyvern]

Wow.

[hardy pasture]

If they fix the hit reg / desync for those of us who regularly have it that would be nice.

[placid wyvern]

I was clamoring for crossplay changes, but it seems like we need input-based matchmaking.

[tribal zodiac]

I fixed it by getting a new isp

[ivory gull]

yeah it’s pretty neat

[placid wyvern]

I haven't played kbm in earnest since thirteen years ago on roblox.

[rich torrent]

It's a causal shooter, literally none of this is needed.

[placid wyvern]

I feel old

Doesn't have to be competitively-inclined to want a healthy playspace.

[rich torrent]

The inputs are balanced though.

[placid wyvern]

Technically impossible, but sure.

I'm of the belief that roller and kbm balance can never be totally reconciled.

[rich torrent]

Aim Assist isn't extremely OP like COD and controller gets 25% less recoil, it is possible.

[placid wyvern]

You're oversimplifying it. To some, any aim assist is too much. It's case-by-case.

[rich torrent]

And those some are just as clueless as the people who think MnK makes you a pro.

[hardy pasture]

I already tried that. No clue what is going on with my connection to their servers. One game good then 4 games around 50- 70% hit reg. (according to in game overlay).
I’m rarely going to top the leader board these days but a level playing field would be nice.

[rich torrent]

It's not as simple as X input always beats Y input, it's a game by game basis and BF6 is fairly equal.

[placid wyvern]

I know it's not black and white, but the average performance of kbm players is higher than the average performance of controller players. It's been well-documented for decades.

[rich torrent]

Again, game by game basis.

In games like COD and Apex, the average performance is higher on controllers.

[placid wyvern]

Would you rather snipe on roller or kbm?

[hardy pasture]

There is no reason not to have cross play off as the default setting.

[rich torrent]

Depends on the game.

[placid wyvern]

In the majority of games you play.

[rich torrent]

Again, it depends.

Battlefield is MnK, COD would be Roller.

[placid wyvern]

So it's not totally balanced?

[rich torrent]

55% of BF players are on PC yet I see majority of players using Roller.

I know the AA isn't broken and I know they get 25% less recoil and it feels even.

[placid wyvern]

Why pick kbm for sniping? Why not controller?

[rich torrent]

Again, game by game basis.

Preference is also a thing.

[hardy pasture]

Where is this stat?

[rich torrent]

Which one?

[hardy pasture]

Number of players pc vs console. I’m surprised console didn’t sell more than pc

[rich torrent]

Again, game by game basis.

Roller is better in a lot of shooters but MnK is more comfortable for me.

[placid wyvern]

You can't exactly argue that they're balanced well enough if you have a preference between games. You're essentially agreeing that the balance skews to one or the other depending on the game.

[rich torrent]

Battlefield wasn't on consoles to begin with so it's a PC fan base from the start.

[mortal dust]

what?

[rich torrent]

Well I can, I use MNK when I feel the inputs are fairly equal and I use roller in games where it's the clear winner.

[placid wyvern]

But you feel disadvantaged playing with a controller in Battlefield?

You realize you're contradicting the claim that "the inputs are balanced".

[hardy pasture]

True. Stat still surprised me. No wonder they haven’t given cod levels of aim assist (yet)

[rich torrent]

The inputs feel balanced in BF6 so I use MnK because I find it more comfortable, aa I've already stated.

[placid wyvern]

But you also feel comfortable using controller as evidenced by using them for other games?

[rich torrent]

So to be exact, 56.7% of BF6 sales were on PC.

[rich torrent]

Yes and I will use controllers in games where they are clearly the better option, COD, Apex, etc.

But MnK is my preferred method due to comfort.

[placid wyvern]

"Clearly the better option" is my point, and Battlefield is no exception. Again, in BF6, would you rather snipe with kbm or controller?

[rich torrent]

I have arthritis in my thumbs and long periods of roller use feel uncomfortable.

[rich torrent]

As I have stated, BF6 feels fairly even to me so I use MnK.

[placid wyvern]

And I disagree, based on my earlier stated belief.

[rich torrent]

Majority of sales being on PC yet controller is used more - I don't see controller as being the better method because they feel equal.

[placid wyvern]

How can you ascertain that controllers are the majority of input devices?

[rich torrent]

A lot of people do use it though due to 25% less recoil.

[rich torrent]

Because I can see what people use in games? All 430 hours.

[placid wyvern]

So anecdotally?

I also have 500 hrs and I can't agree, so where does that leave us?

[rich torrent]

500 hours and you're still complaining about inputs?

While you have 25% less recoil?

[placid wyvern]

Are you pivoting?

I've been playing kbm since I announced it here abiut half an hour ago, and honestly, the recoil isn't that bad.

Im also using an smg, which conceivably have some of the highest recoil.

[rich torrent]

So you're complaining about AA then?

[placid wyvern]

No, I recognize that controllers have AA and that's why I believe they're impossible to balance because AA's very existence dissatisfies many kbm players. It's really the ease in precision one gains from kbm that I have a problem with; a controller simply can't compare to the same efficacy.

[primal nova]

Ig its more up to preference. More people just use what they are familiar with. Not everyone calculates how much aim assist they get.

[rich torrent]

A lot of people you mentioned with certain views also don't look at games in specific.

It's always just X beats Y no matter what. Using these people as examples isn't proving anything.

[placid wyvern]

You're claiming a majority of players use controllers without any discernible way to prove it.

[rich torrent]

You're saying that AA is impossible to balance due to the hurt feelings of some PC players who don't look at situations differently.

Someone else's skill issues isn't proof of something always being overpowered.

[placid wyvern]

Then who decides if it's overpowered? You?

[rich torrent]

They can be balanced but quite frankly the only people that should even be speaking on the balance should be people who have touched both methods in a particular game and not the people with "X always beats Y" mentality.

[void crow]

This also works revertly. Why helping people with controllers that have skill issues because a great controller gamer can compete a great mnk player

[obsidian fossil]

Is BF6 really good?
The only 2 I loved were BF4 and BF1

[placid wyvern]

Well, I now happen to be one of them and just from about 45 minutes of gameplay where I haven't gamed on a kbm for 13 years, 25% extra recoil feels negligible to me. Different, but negligible. So who decides?

[rich torrent]

A great controller player cannot compete with a great MnK player without Aim Assist.

Hence why R6 on console was full of MnK.

Controllers do need AA but balancing that out is the issue- games like COD and Apex fail at that.

[primal nova]

Try redsec and see

[rich torrent]

The whole community that tests this stuff?

The community catches on pretty quickly to a game having insane AA or not.

[placid wyvern]

Oh, is the community in the room with us? Are you their ambassador? Am I in the community?

[rich torrent]

MnK players were essentially gone in xDefiant within 2 weeks when they found out how insane AA was.

[obsidian fossil]

I hate battle royal
CoD MW2019 was my fav after Black Ops 2. And then they ruined it with warzone

[humble jungle]

The things people argue about on discord lol

[primal nova]

Try the gauntlet stuff. And some multiplayer stuff are available free for another 2 days or smth

[obsidian fossil]

Bro, I just wanna know. is it good?
Like really worth playing?

[void crow]

No it's not worth right now, wait for a big discount or new fixes

[humble jungle]

I got bored of it pretty quick

[rich torrent]

Currently no, it needs a lot of fixes and the Devs are on holidays.

Plus they started using Ai Art in the store if you're against that (also lying about not using Ai).

[placid wyvern]

I'm not a fan of battle royales either, but I do recommend you try redsec or gauntlet. At the very least, you can get a feel for the mechanics.

[tribal zodiac]

I got 450 hours and still having a good time with it

And now that i can stream it im gonna play it even more lol

[obsidian fossil]

Thanks guys, I guess I'll wait a bit.

[placid wyvern]

Is there something wrong with rpgs? Since I swapped, they seem much less accurate.

[rich torrent]

Yea idk, I've seen a few clips now where RPGs almost look like they have bloom for some reason.

[placid wyvern]

They always have had a little bloom, but I didn't notice a difference until I swapped. Now they deviate by so much more.

[drowsy condor]

hey

[tropic horizon]

really? ive been counter sniping from the center point on liberation peak to the hill base with it, never noticed

[rich torrent]

I've honestly lost track of what even works in this game anymore, found out today that atleast for NATO on Eastwood the c-ram doesn't work anymore.

[placid wyvern]

Maybe it's a bug that occurs randomly.

[tropic horizon]

if they added more spread thats good imo, but i didnt read anything about that

could be same bug that affected other weapons before..? hard to say

[tight prism]

i love bf4 and enjoy bf6 but it does have problems that can easily be fixed

[placid wyvern]

As far as I know, some bloom is hardcoded into the game, but the issues are that it's misbehaving or behaving incorrectly.

[tribal zodiac]

When you coming to play breakthrough

[thin warren]

Can we get a hotfix on the scoreboard glitch please or do we have to wait for another 2 weeks

[placid wyvern]

Are they on holiday break now?

[subtle portal]

Yes

[tight prism]

breakthrough is so mid rn

[thin warren]

Damn

[tropic horizon]

even if they werent, they surelly have code freeze

[tribal zodiac]

Its somewhat tolerable now

They fixed the vehicle stacking bug and it aint bad now

[thin warren]

Its driving me nuts, especially when you just have a good game, and then stuck in scoreboard

[subtle portal]

Just don’t have good games

[thin warren]

Hahaha

[sullen escarp]

Haiiiii

Uhhh who wanna play

[thin warren]

Think you just fixed it xD

[subtle portal]

I‘ve only had the scoreboard bug when the round was pretty much over

[ocean locust]

plis admin for report the player

[subtle portal]

Report for doing what?

[ocean locust]

for #screenshots-and-clips this guy is hacker

Slydog this name

[subtle portal]

He just has a better gaming chair

[thin warren]

Seems fine to me

[placid wyvern]

Is it weird to crouch with caps lock? Im new to this

[primal nova]

I rlly enjoy it. I think its on like 30% Discount rn too.

[subtle portal]

hold or tap?

[primal nova]

What do u do with c?

[maiden grotto]

if you usee your ring finger to do it, you ll have to lift your finger from the A key that might limit your movement when using crouch

[placid wyvern]

I don't have dexterity yet, so tap.

I use my pinky, nothing for c.

[maiden grotto]

i personally wouldnt wanna set it to caps or C either of these, cus in C, the same shit happens with my index that moves from D to C

[maiden grotto]

does that keep your hand comfortable enough ?

[subtle portal]

I hold crouch on left alt, tap on c

[maiden grotto]

pinkky on caps, other three on wad and thumb on space ?

[placid wyvern]

Lol nothing does atm. Controller for twenty years up to this point

[subtle portal]

Try hold crouch on left alt

[placid wyvern]

I chose caps because I wouldn't flex it very much to crouch.

[maiden grotto]

ahhahah well
you can experiment between left ctrl, alt and c for crouch and prone alike

[placid wyvern]

Is there a reason people separate crouch and prone? I have both there.

[maiden grotto]

it really depends on what you can sit in your muscle memory without limiting your finger movement in stressful times of combat

[maiden grotto]

no reason as such, personal choice that's all

i earlier had crouch toggle on c and prone toggle on z

but just yesterday i shifted my crouch hold on left ctrl and moved prone to mouse

trying to experiment cuz c and z were limiting my wad movements which i personally didnt like

[subtle portal]

Having to tap again to exit the crouch is slower

[subtle portal]

z and c are for thumb lol

[maiden grotto]

i want my three fingers to permanently stay afixed at wad and thumb at space, leaving only my pinky free that controls both left shift and left ctrl at this point

[ivory gull]

i use caps lock

[placid wyvern]

I play guitar and piano and it's somehow very difficult not to strain my pinky lmao

[maiden grotto]

no way i am gonna get used to this honestly
having to move thumb from space till z is way too much time in my opinion

[inland nymph]

I want to say my pinky has "improved" but even I feel it wear sometimes.

[placid wyvern]

Also, is there a way to increase the cursor speed in menus?

I've scoured the settings a dozen times and can't find a slider.

[ripe adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1ps4ze4/there_are_a_lot_of_things_that_dont_really_pass/

paid cosmetics made with AI 😭😭😭 dice return your game of the year award you're cooked

[void crow]

Maybe it also explains why the game is broken with each update, they just ask gpt for lines of code and c/p it without any check

[ripe adder]

Wouldn't be shocked tbh

[timber ember]

Can I set a hotkey to switch between rescuing someone? Long press OR press?

[ripe adder]

The pace at which they're pushing out content is definitely suspicious

[void schooner]

wouldn't be surprised if this is the case tbh

they completely broke upscaling

[ripe adder]

I've reported the game on steam for undisclosed AI content

You should too.

[void schooner]

I have it on EA Desktop so I'm shit out of luck

[rich torrent]

How do you do this?

[ripe adder]

There's a flag icon on the steam page.

[rich torrent]

Sweet, thanks.

[ripe adder]

I guarantee you the challenges are all AI generated too. 100%

That's probably why the grammar is so bad on the English text

[reef holly]

anybody have a way to make a consistent gauntlet/firign range type test map
so like i can clear a few areas of bots trying out each guns to see the fastest time etc

cause now portal doesnt let you fill with bots it seems, gets stuck at 12 bots + me meaning i need atleast 1 full squad of players on each team + bots to run a game

[modest dome]

do you guys have no doubts that season 2 will fix season 1 issues?

[tall zinc]

nothing suspicious lol

[ivory gull]

season 1 was okay, i think they’ll hit hard in season 2

[tall zinc]

and going off that to "it has ai generated content" is absurd

[ripe adder]

I don't understand what you mean but okay. The sticker art is very clearly AI generated.

[void schooner]

Considering we're now highly suspicious the code is vibe coded, no.

in fact it might break in other ways.

Like, FSR or XeSS literally does nothing on my machine. Hell, even changing the render resolution down does nothing.

[modest dome]

so you guys think that season 2 might be better than season 1

[void schooner]

Game could look like original Half-Life and I'm still get the exact same 100 fps.

[ripe adder]

DLSS is working fine.

[rich torrent]

Season 1 became more broken as time went on, I don't have hopes for Season 2.

[void schooner]

I'm almost at the point of just reinstalling windows.

[tall zinc]

upscalers doesn't = free performance, and assuming that it will in the first place is a misunderstanding of the technology

[modest dome]

wdym no hope?

[ripe adder]

Deco is right. If you're CPU limited upscaling won't magically give you more fps

[void schooner]

Back before the winter update, turning FSR on changed my in-game fps from 100-110 average to about 150-160.

[rich torrent]

Games should get better over time, not worse. That isn't the case with BF6.

[void schooner]

Now it does not matter what map I'm on, it literally does nothing.

[modest dome]

whats the case of bf6 rn?

[rich torrent]

It's quality is dropping with every update.

[ripe adder]

Bf6 has improved over time in terms of some aspects such as the challenges and game feeling but is absolutely busted on a technical level and is filled with AI generated art.

[dire jay]

i was gna buy it while it was 30% off is it worth it

[tall zinc]

worth 30% off? yes absolutely

the game has technical problems but nothing game breaking

[modest dome]

i dont see any ai art in bf6 rn

[ripe adder]

It was a massive mistake to release a patch the day before your 1.3 million dollar tournament

[rich torrent]

30% off is good but the game is far from a good state currently and they are on holidays.

[dire jay]

i cant play another duos battle royale or gauntlet match

[ripe adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1ps4ze4/there_are_a_lot_of_things_that_dont_really_pass/

[tall zinc]

then best to buy the game

[ripe adder]

Literally the Kanji is fake on the paid stickers.

[dire jay]

saving myself $33 bucks

[modest dome]

ye, im blind

[ripe adder]

I get being pressured into using AI. It happens to me at work too. I'm forced to use AI for code. AI for paid content which costs 10+ dollars is unacceptable.

[exotic maple]

Wym? Isn't the whole point of FSR/Xess/DLSS/other more obscure tech perfomance boosts

[rich torrent]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/pHYQc7R54W

This is the sticker that started it all.

[tall zinc]

nope

upscalers themselves are not free performance boosters, they only help in GPU limited situations (raster performance, not RT), if you are CPU bottlenecked they will make no difference, only way to overcome a CPU bottleneck is via frame generation (interpolation)

[hollow void]

Hello guys , please help fill the server , it's a rush HC setup with good amount of time and tickests . game code ZJNKV . have fun !

[tall zinc]

they have other benefits beyond "free FPS" which matter more to players whether they realise it or not

[rugged mango]

Don’t play the game with DLSS on

[ripe adder]

W h a t

[exotic maple]

That's a fair assesment though in practice most people say "FREE PERFOMANCE" becaue most "big" games are GPU bound

[rugged mango]

You’re adding latency to your game when you turn on dlss

[tall zinc]

that isnt wrong but it's more a oversimplification, games such as frostbite/unreal are not this straightforward

[elfin birch]

i DMd you for help stuff yesterday and you aint respond bro

[tall zinc]

this is wrong lol

[exotic maple]

Fair

[analog chasm]

I'm surprised In Vehicle Comms Groups aren't a thing yet, seems like a missed opportunity that would enhance the experience

[tall zinc]

🤣

[ripe adder]

The latency impact is minimal and I'm at 4k.

Also this ain't CS2. Who cares about latency when we have people on controller getting aim assist through smokes and walls lol

[elfin birch]

[tall zinc]

there is no additional latency from DLSS, there is from frame generation, anyone saying otherwise is not correct

if anything it's a reduction since the internal render resolution is lower

[rugged mango]

Oh my bad frame gen

[ripe adder]

The latency impact from frame generation is also really not a big deal

[ivory gull]

far from a good state is such a major stretch

[tribal zodiac]

Arent you the same person that plays with frame gen on

[rugged mango]

Well after you told me turn it off I turned it off 😂

[ripe adder]

If your base frame rate is above 60 adding frame gen makes no visible impact because BF6 is not a twitch shooter it's a goofy arcade shooter lol

[tribal zodiac]

Great now hop in the party so i get real humans in my squad

[tall zinc]

assuming the base raster performance is high enough yeah it's not a huge deal, though you'd still want Blackwell due to flip metering, but for FG latency to be indistinguishable it's going to need to be above 120 realistically

[exotic maple]

That honestly depends on how many FPS you already have FG at 50-60 FPS can be pretty horrid (see steam deck players trying to use FG as a holy grail lol in games like avator/cyberpunk)

[ripe adder]

But cyberpunk is not a competive game a bit of smeariness doesn't impact anything

[tall zinc]

yes it does

[ripe adder]

You wouldn't notice it on a tiny steam deck screen

But you shouldn't enable frame gen with a base fps of 30 anyway

[tall zinc]

you will notice it on a steam deck screen since it has a much higher PPI ratio than a monitor

[exotic maple]

Again it depends on how many "real" FPS you already have iirc 60-90 is the point at which FG interpolation doesnt really "choke" at 30-60 its just agony

[tall zinc]

when the PPI is sharper the error of margin for detail is lower

[ripe adder]

If you want to make yourself sick enable frame gen and limit your fps in menu to 60, that causes your base frame rate to 30 multiplied by 2. Go into the range and ADS with a sniper

[tall zinc]

the problem with frame generation isn't so much the base framerate anyways more that depending on your hardware you will have extremely unstable interpolation in certain situations

[exotic maple]

My brother in christ I literally sometimes play conquest on a trackpad ona. train agony is my default setting lol

[tall zinc]

and if you're on RDNA hardware you can forget about using stable FG entirely

[ripe adder]

Yeah for me my non frame gen fps is around 100 but it's not a smooth 100, FG 2x really helps with a 5000 series card to smooth out the timings but NVIDIA is the exception.

[tall zinc]

Blackwell has flip metering is the reason why, the older gens do not

[tribal zodiac]

Also when can we remove the svk from the game

[ripe adder]

I see. I didn't know what that was but it makes sense.

I wouldn't use FG for any serious competitive game but since my CPU is older it really does help

[tall zinc]

you can push it for 4k since it can brute force against CPU limits (yes a 5090 is actually bottlenecked with a 9800x3d at 4k), it doesn't double it but it's good enough

[tribal zodiac]

And can we ban ping abusers while we're at it

[tawny pebble]

What about a 5080

[tall zinc]

5080/4090 is a pure GPU sandbag situation at 4k

[ripe adder]

Yeah I play at 4k with DLSS enabled and FG enabled 😭 and only a 5070 I'm cooked

[exotic maple]

mfw you guys running 5090s/5080s and im just here with a humble 5060 laptop and a RX 9070

[tall zinc]

I've got a bad addiction to hardware don't become me

[tribal zodiac]

Like genuinely, just ban anyone that uses a vpn

[tawny pebble]

Eh I got a steal on a 9800x3d/5080 setup right before prices went through the roof and at the time going to. 5090 almost doubled the price of my set up

[dire jay]

is bf6 on xbox 1

[tawny pebble]

But I don't do 4k you can't hardly see the diff on small screens

[tall zinc]

https://ibb.co/r2MJgnxB

[inland nymph]

You gonna get a 6090 when it's out?

[tall zinc]

nah, nova lake? hell yes

[reef holly]

@sturdy spindle u were right
i switched to sg now
less shots fired per kill cause of accuracy

tr7 is still better at medium range though but since i usually push my main is close range

[tall zinc]

nope, next gen only

[inland nymph]

Nova lake being the next intel gen right yeah. Aren't AMD looking into the idle power draw?

Does the idle power draw really annoy you that much by the way?

[tall zinc]

they will fix IOD power but they aren't going to fix idle power draw

[dire jay]

i finally decided to get an xbox series x earlier this year after playing cod bo6 on my xbox 1s and it legit died

[amber belfry]

nova lake is looking so promising. havent decided between amds next gen or nova lake. i can reuse my ramkit regardless

[tall zinc]

idle draw isn't something they care about for consumer platforms and it's a chipset problem primarily anyways

[ripe adder]

U12S 💙

[inland nymph]

Isn't intel looking to do JUST P cores by the way.

[tall zinc]

nope, why would they do that

[exotic maple]

But hey XBONE gets B L A C K O P S 7

[amber belfry]

nah nova lake is a combi again. the only chips that are just P cores right now are xeons

[inland nymph]

I don't understand. What does that mean.

[amber belfry]

xeons are their server chips. different lineup then the consumer chips

[tall zinc]

NVLs highest configuration is a 26+26 configuration 16+16 p cores iirc and the rest e cores

[tawny pebble]

I'm at work so I can SS but I got a 5080/9800x3d
2tb pcie 4.0
64bg ddr5 6000 ram

2500 and some change swapping up to a 5090 was 3999 lol

[tall zinc]

yeah makes sense

[inland nymph]

You know I don't think people will be getting a proper new GPU for a while.

[amber belfry]

eh it doesnt matter. amd will keep shooting themselves in the foot and not compete with nvidia.

[upbeat spade]

Interesting discord profile

[tall zinc]

I make money on my upgrades more often than not so I don't pay for em it's others

[amber belfry]

ahahha dude forgot to log off the gooner account

[inland nymph]

I was thinking of buying your 4090 off of you but I had no idea how quick you were gonna get a 5090.

[tall zinc]

might have trouble with import fees

[upbeat spade]

People got no shame

[amber belfry]

just pray the connector doesnt melt

[inland nymph]

I am not mad. It's just a law of the universe. You do a thing and of course the thing you have in mind happens.

[reef holly]

here used 4090s were selling for their msrp at launch lol

[tawny pebble]

And I wanted to get my upgrade in before the prices skyrocketed was using a 3070/i7 12000kf with 32gb ram 4800 and a 1tb ssd nvme

[inland nymph]

Yeahhhh probably some issues.

[tall zinc]

nah it's the fe model not aib

[upbeat spade]

I love my 4090 but man. The anxiety that one day the connector will melt

[tall zinc]

use the stock NV adapter and you won't have issues if you use anything else you're on your own

[unborn pilot]

what was today's login reward? Accidentally clicked through it

[amber belfry]

oof those are LOUD, and they can melt to but it isnt really a board problem. alof of power supplies are not properly load balanced on their native 12vhp /x6 port and can send 80% of the current through 1 wire

[inland nymph]

From what I see. From where I am to the UK it'll cost 44 AUD through express.

[tall zinc]

yeah that's correct, tbh the 4090 wasn't that loud, the 5090 is though since it's smaller

[inland nymph]

Which is well. Significantly cheaper. Though I wonder from the UK to here.

[amber belfry]

the stock adapter does the load balancing for you since its 2 to 4 seperate cables so 0 issues with those. unless you user error them

[humble trench]

i dont trust current psu+nvidia high wattage cards at all lmao - not a well thought out method and quality control is too low for my liking

[tall zinc]

I sold my 4090 for 1.6k GBP dunno what that is in aud

[amber belfry]

the 5090 FE is a engineering marvel. but alot and i mean ALOT of issues with the pcie riser pcb. lots of breaking connectors on those