battlefield-6

[inland nymph]

Damn so it's gone through.

Like anything will change.

[distant crown]

But cross progression is different to pre launch rewards in another title

[quartz fossil]

Imagine seeing the live trailer and all the statements so far and still thinking BF6 will have "wild monetization"

You complain for the sake of complaining. A tourist.

[astral shore]

Honestly I don't really trust DICE and EA anymore so still decided to wait for the game to come out and wait for proper reviews

[deep glade]

Steam no longer allows 18+ games. So, your point?

Steam is also just one of many sources of games

[astral shore]

And I can try the game with EA Play on Steam for 10 hours, then buy the game

[strong echo]

🫵🏻🤣 I can send u a shitton of 18+ games on steam rn

[blazing girder]

it does, its just more hidden

[errant wagon]

Imagine being so addled that you can't parse what was done before and what could be done after this acquisition.

You do understand the concept of before and after, right?

[strong echo]

I just hate to search that up so my home page isn't full of that shit

[deep glade]

Yes, I know you can. But the is a new policy from 2025 and forward.

[blazing girder]

yeah

[astral shore]

Kinda worried about this decision... Wonder if this will change how EA looks like

[errant wagon]

There is no way it won't

[strong echo]

All u have to do is turn off any search filters in ur store preferences and u will see what I'm talking about

[quartz fossil]

You don't understand anything about anything to do with monetization. If EA tried anything stupid with BF6 they would lose money not make money.

[quartz fossil]

Bro can predict the future

The owners of companies change all the time doesn't necessarily mean suddenly everything is different

[errant wagon]

Bro doesn't understand using historical precedent to inform speculation on the future

[inland nymph]

When the capitalism does the capitalism

[ember radish]

Man you guys need to relax, I can smell the basement dweller sweat from here 😂

[errant wagon]

There is a difference between being acquired by a company like Microsoft or Sony and being bought in a leveraged buyout by private equity.

[quartz fossil]

Valve is a private company and they're great idk I can look at historical precedent and make dumb statements too lol

[strong echo]

Why don't u make us

Do some

[quartz fossil]

And the difference is?

[lusty wyvern]

So like does this mean that BF and the other ips are gonna be owned by PIC, Silver Lake, etc?

[errant wagon]

Okay, yeah, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. No point in continuing this lmao.
Try reading something other than Twitter posts next time

[lusty wyvern]

I am assuming so

[cloud venture]

Anyone know when the single player campaign talk thing gunna be from battlefield 6

[inland nymph]

PIF is the Saudi part, Silver lake is from NY.

[astral shore]

Will you guys pre-order or wait until 2 weeks for reading review and making decisions?
Honestly I don't really trust DICE and EA anymore so still decided to wait for the game to come out and wait for proper reviews and I can try the game with EA Play on Steam for 10 hours, then buy the game

Any thought on this one guys? Which side will you choose?

[quartz fossil]

Bunch of poor people with negative understanding of corporate acquisitions predicting the future of a company this shit is like a comedy

The most likely change is that nothing happens, certainly not for BF6.

You can probably expect more sports washing in their games lol

[inland nymph]

It does make me ponder how things could change up but at the same time it's a whatever.

More curious about the inside stuff.

[quartz fossil]

You could've played the game by now, bunch of people have already reviewed it.

[astral shore]

The beta and the full releases are different

[quartz fossil]

The launch build isn't suddenly going to be super unstable or different than the beta it'll just have all the features that were missing before

[wise cloak]

Surely there would be some sort of agreement as well that we wont know much about

[quartz fossil]

You're acting like they could be different games

[deep glade]

They’re turning the game into my little pony

[quartz fossil]

If you liked beta you'll like launch

[willow lance]

Deal went through, EA is a private company now

[tidal hound]

Cant believe they're adding Zac Efron as a playable character smh my head

[tepid forge]

Did y’all see the launch trailer yesterday?

[quartz fossil]

It's the same video game with more content and more polish basically

[deep glade]

Not yet, and not final

[wise cloak]

was a good laugh

[tepid forge]

Exactly. The fact they just dunked on CoD was hilarious

[willow lance]

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250929186526/en/EA-Announces-Agreement-to-be-Acquired-by-PIF-Silver-Lake-and-Affinity-Partners-for-%2455-Billion

[deep glade]

Please read the details of the deal. It’s only a planned transaction, it’s planned for FY2027

[strong echo]

If ur happy about it then it's bad news for us lmfao

[deep glade]

The deal can be nullified and pulled out of at any notice.

Read the legal part of the release.

[willow lance]

It's good news because EA won't cancel Titanfall 3 or whatever developers wants to make anymore because "they don't bring 10 trillion dollar revenue"

[strong echo]

U probably shouldn't be talking to me after getting clapped

[inland nymph]

We don't really know that.

[deep glade]

Clapped? You can’t even read nor understand what PEGI and ESRB is

[craggy tapir]

Now they’ll just cancel it for other reasons

TF|3 will never release

[strong echo]

Idc about all that, I just wanna see u suffer horribly lmfao, is that too much to ask?

[median current]

Quick question for the battlefield team, if we use an emulator for a 360 controller so we can use a flight stick, is that against the rules of fair play?

[deep glade]

Read the EULA

[median current]

Can you link me to it

[deep glade]

Game ain’t out yet

[strong echo]

OHHHH YOU ARE ANTI ‼️ so this is ur alt account after getting perma banned eh? That's crazy

[deep glade]

?

[strong echo]

That's crazy

[deep glade]

I needed to make a discord account or I couldn’t get in the labs

[wise cloak]

Are we in for another episode in the chat

[strong echo]

Member since Sept 8
Joined since Sept 8

Caught u in the act

[deep glade]

^

Congratulations you read my message

[strong echo]

No u got perma banned, that's another clapping for ur record

[tidal hound]

😮 you're breaking NDA and admitting you are in Labs? BAN

[deep glade]

The labs allow me to tell I am in it

But the details of my experience is under the NDA

[strong echo]

I'm pretty sure that's not allowed, NDA is NDA. U should get banned again, just add a 3rd L to ur resume

[deep glade]

lol what, if you actually got invited you would know it’s allowed to say you’re in it

[inland nymph]

Yeah they did say you are allowed to reveal yourself to be in labs.

[wide elbow]

next... PIF have to buy EA's dlc to get full company

[strong echo]

Who said? And how would u know unless ur already in

[craggy tapir]

Different NDAs have different requirements. They seem to have made it less strict after the open beta

[wise cloak]

labs discussion would be rather pointless otherwise 🤔

[strong echo]

How do u know? R u also a lab rat?

Ladies and gentlemen, we got em

[craggy tapir]

Sadly, no. The fact that some YouTubers have been allowed to show beta footage is very telling though

[deep glade]

“You may not share, publish, disclose, distribute, transmit, post or make available, directly or indirectly, Confidential Information to any third party, until EA publicly releases the product(s) or content you are reviewing. However, you may disclose the existence of the Pre-Release Feedback Program*and that you are a member of the Pre-Release Feedback Program.”

[strong echo]

Cpl and ros just exposed themselves as lab agents

[inland nymph]

Can you just quit playing dumb.

[deep glade]

This is a statement from the user agreement.

[delicate quartz]

I'm not sure it's a game

[inland nymph]

You're assuming the guy you are talking to can read.

[strong echo]

Sharing confidential information in public chat is crazy "for real for real" -Luna

[deep glade]

rage baiting I see

Can’t believe I feed this bait

[inland nymph]

Did you get into Labs anyways, Ros?

[craggy tapir]

“Playing”

[inland nymph]

It's weird seeing all the labs footage and then we being so close to release.

[deep glade]

Ofc, hence why I made this account. Otherwise I don’t use discord

[wise cloak]

Also your opinions are not under NDA as long as they not too specific. Again labs discussion would be pointless otherwise.

[wide elbow]

dont call my uncle randomly

[deep glade]

I am on console so I don’t have a real use for discord

[inland nymph]

Yeah that's a fair point.

[strong echo]

Oh right new CEO, mb g

[inland nymph]

Yeah that would do it.

[strong echo]

Ur Anti and I know it

This is just an alt account

[deep glade]

And getting in contact with discord support? I gave up

[inland nymph]

Discord support is awful.

[deep glade]

Actually, I just checked my mail, it’s from 2016

[inland nymph]

I don't really use discord so I have been on and off for years.

Thought to give it a whirl considering bf6 is so close to release.

[deep glade]

I just don’t see the thing with discord

I used to use it a lot when I played Roblox during quarantine lol

[delicate quartz]

I have it permanently open on my 3rd screen

[tight prism]

im so happy i spent 80 bucks on the phantom edition

100 i think idk

[thin night]

What will be the difference between the phantom XP set and the standard XP sets? like what is the details on those sets?

[light cypress]

Salut les gars

[strong echo]

I think standard Ed gets a certain amount of XP boosts but phantom gets double the amount

So if u get 3 XP boosts with standard Ed for example, u get 6 with phantom

I don't use that stuff anyways so I didn't pay much attention to it

[tight prism]

based username

[deep glade]

Still wondering what the pro token does

[strong echo]

Based opinion on my based name

[errant wagon]

A lot of people are (understandably) focused on the Saudi Arabia and Kushner part of this, but the far bigger immediate impact will come from the new private EA being on the hook for $20 billion in debt. That could mean mass layoffs, more aggressive monetization, and other big cost-cutting measures

[delicate quartz]

premium battlepass track unlock iirc

[plain sierra]

Saudis please dont touch my battlefield

[errant wagon]

https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3lzy2ieztws2w

[stable remnant]

with one version you have less money at the end, and nothing to show for it, and the other you have more money at the end + can buy snaks to eat while you play

[deep glade]

Well according to the description of the physical pre order, the pro token and battle pass is two different things

[plain sierra]

100% will try to push shitty FIFA micro transactions to all their games

[inland nymph]

It is a consortium. The Saudis don't solely control EA.

[light cypress]

comment vous allez

How are you

[inland nymph]

People are unironically so dramatic.

[inland nymph]

Who, Me? I am fine!

[light cypress]

Okay nice

[tidal hound]

The Pro Token is the BP + 20 tier skips combined. Like how you can buy that same pack in COD

[thin night]

Hahah you are right.. i'll just go with standard:P

[deep glade]

I see

[inland nymph]

If you like the phantom equipment. Go for it!

[deep glade]

This is the full list

Phantom Squad: 4 soldier skins – Crossbones, Mirage, Specter, Wraith
• “Glimmer” melee knife weapon skin
• “Shrouded” M433 weapon bundle
• “Drop Shadow” MS2010 ESR weapon bundle
• “Chimera” M1A2 SEPv3 vehicle skin
• “Death’s Head” weapon sticker
• “Cryptic” weapon charm
• “Operative” dog tag
• Phantom XP Boost set

[inland nymph]

M433 will go hard.

[strong echo]

I'm still salty about the tank skin nerf

[inland nymph]

So the fact that it gets a phantom skin will be nice.

[strong echo]

It was so good, why they had to massacre my baby like that

[deep glade]

• Gravedigger Soldier Skin
• “Fallen Heroes” player card
• “Bandolier” weapon charm
• “Express Delivery” weapon sticker
• “Hatchet” L110 weapon bundle
• “Doomsayer” Soldier Shoulder Patch
• Tombstone XP Boost set

For standard Editon

[languid pendant]

Hey all, quick question. Do we bring our beta progress to the full release next week or nah? It's ok either way, just wondering 🙂

AIght cool 😄

[strong echo]

Beta progress doesn't carry over, gotta start all over

[languid pendant]

can't wait 🤣

[inland nymph]

That is pre order. For both Phantom and standard as long as it's a pre order.

[visual cape]

Just one more beta test week please

Just one more

[inland nymph]

We have 12 days left!

You can wait!

[languid pendant]

I don't have a choice lmao. I'll entertain myself with bf5 in the mean time

Thanks! 👍

[deep glade]

Are you preordering

[wise cloak]

Maybe friday. Downloading pre launch would be best 10 oct internet is going to be barley usable if the beta was any benchmark 🤣 .

[latent knot]

Any other specific servers out there looking for people?

[next rain]

can i pre download the game ? or download will be available 10.10 at 17:00 ? / release time ?!

[wise cloak]

Yes can be preloaded on the 3rd of October. This Friday

[next rain]

really ?

[raven sphinx]

yes

[humble plover]

What's the file size? I want to check so I can clear some stuff up

[raven sphinx]

about 80 gbt

[wise cloak]

Cant say for sure but its safe to assume around 90-100 can also selects parts of the game you want to download

[tropic spoke]

EA has been acquired by Silver Lake and Arabs

[deep glade]

Not yet

[summer relic]

It’s already confirmed

[deep glade]

They will be acquired in the future however, in Fiscal Year 2027

And it’s not “confirmed” it’s an agreement that has been made public. It can still be stopped if actors on both sides have conflict

People really only read the first lines.

[quartz fossil]

Most people are not capable of reading lol

[frank dust]

955,551 seconds remaining until Battlefield 6

[deep glade]

How many now

[frank dust]

https://tenor.com/view/endgame-now-gif-14938794

We’re in the end game now.

Sub 1 million.

[unreal grove]

is it releasing at the morning of the tenth, or the midnight of the tenth going into the eleventh? I'm a bit confused

[deep glade]

and it would be made funny if PIF simply bought all the shares of EA just to sell part of it again.

With the success of BF6

[strong echo]

We r no longer in millions, that's what I wanna see 🙏🏻

[deep glade]

And EA will still be lead by the same team and CEO, lol

[abstract walrus]

That's next April, so not that far away but yeah people are generally overlooking that this is still a future close date

[deep glade]

I believe a lot can change in that time span

[abstract walrus]

Mostly regulatory, which is always messy

[eager sedge]

BF6

[abstract walrus]

And there are technically limiters on how much the two parties can coordinate or what info can be shared between them until it closes.. technically 😉

So I wouldn't expect too much of a splash on bf6 roadmap because of it

[void crow]

It might also answer the "for a while" when they say "skins will stay grounded for a while" ahah

[deep glade]

I’ll ask PIF if I can buy 1 share of their hold of the company deal

I forgot, how many shares does EA trade right now?

[wise cloak]

I wonder if moral has increased overall across the studios from the acquirement.

[deep glade]

Well they are still lead by the same management (so far)

[tidal current]

lol

[deep glade]

Omg, 251m shares in EA

[wise cloak]

Sure but it may signal more creative freedom in the future.

[tidal current]

LOL

[deep glade]

Of the exact opposite

[tidal current]

LMAO EVEN

[abstract walrus]

harsh

[deep glade]

It will now be purely dictated by one source

[wise cloak]

indeed one can only hope.

[deep glade]

I understood PIF was Saudi?

[abstract walrus]

The "exact opposite" should be read as "less creative freedom" I think...

[tidal current]

Look Jared Kushner isnt buying EA because hes frustrated with bad releases

[wise cloak]

ahh yes perhaps specifics are needed. More creative freedom on a focused scope. Less interference from non creatives.

[deep glade]

How will a firm based in Saudi Arabia impact the development of a western based company in video games

[void crow]

They'll maybe pay to have the weapons' real name tho

[quartz fossil]

Patriots are in control

[abstract walrus]

Anyway

[deep glade]

I doubt

[strong echo]

Hopefully not 2042 type creative

[green wave]

It's not about paying a license fee

[deep glade]

We’ll have praying in BF6 in the future now

Demanded by PIF

[quartz fossil]

Fr

Remember guys the world is a vampire

[green wave]

Why smashing pumpkins this early in the morning

[abstract walrus]

It is sometimes though depending on the gun manufacturer, just like any other brand. They can't put Pepsi logos on tanks either without paying for it

[craggy tapir]

Having one group that can influence the game > having an endless requirement to make more money

[quartz fossil]

No dude they don't have real life gun games because they're afraid of getting sued due to anti gun groups

[green wave]

Thought it's more about they don't want gun names linked to irl events, than paying licencing fees which they aren't even required to do iirc?

[quartz fossil]

Sponsored by Coin base

[abstract walrus]

That too, optics are important

[wise cloak]

I find it so stupid that its a thing but I guess how dare we want real weapon names so they easy to look up and nerd out over in discord with buddies or take an interest in firearms. Shouldn't it be the other way around pay to have your patented weapons in game for advertising. How the tables could be turned.

[tidal current]

lol no its just copyright

[green wave]

[abstract walrus]

woof buddy

[tidal current]

what gun in 6 is a pr risk?

[deep glade]

None

[green wave]

Any has the potential

[dapper kraken]

Not anymore. Guns and oil for everyone, except women

[void crow]

Tbh I don't care about real names. I'll call whatever ingame name they are when I discuss with my friends ahah

[tidal current]

bro...

[green wave]

Next time a p320 goes off when someone looks at the trigger group too hard, ea could get sued

[craggy tapir]

Y’know, they should make the sig-inspired guns self-firing to be realistic

[wise cloak]

I just nerd out from time to time 🤓

[quartz fossil]

Successfully sued mind you. Why would EA or any company risk getting in legal trouble?

[dapper kraken]

By the time battlefield 7 come out, well definitely have forgotten

"Never forget"

[tidal current]

your bait game has been on point this morning. shame noones biting

[quartz fossil]

How is this bait?

[green wave]

It's not bait if it's been in the news

[wise cloak]

Are baseball bat manufactures next then ?

[quartz fossil]

Telling basic facts is bait now

[tight prism]

if they turn bf7 into a politically shat on dumpsterfire, or even late bf6 bye bye franchise, and just when they recovered too

[abstract walrus]

Also has to be worth the money to take on any legal risk. It's not an incidental reference to a weapon that H&K or whomever might not care to charge too much for- like a bumper sticker on a car in a driving game
This is a weapon that's on your screen 100% of the time and directly impacts your experience with the game. A manufacturer will charge a lot more to EA for use in a shooter

[quartz fossil]

Anyone is next when crazy groups can sue for bs

[green wave]

Butter knives in the UK are on notice already

[tidal current]

cooking mama sued for depicting a kitchen knife after london stabbing incident

[craggy tapir]

At some point the UK is going to ban sharp finger nails

[quartz fossil]

Nutter is just clueless ig

[wise cloak]

what about the pencils though.

[deep glade]

I’m gonna sue oxygen, cause everyone who breathes it dies

[brave herald]

Same

[quartz fossil]

UK government in a year

[green wave]

Petition against dihydrogen monoxide??

[quartz fossil]

It's bad because it's censorship

[abstract walrus]

it's not censorship.. wut?

[craggy tapir]

Sue all the natural parks. We need them to exterminate all plants so the poison called air can’t hurt the children

[abstract walrus]

EA has no intrinsic right to use a copyrighted product in their own product

[deep glade]

Most dangerous chemical with a 100% long term death rate

[tidal current]

Gonna sue ya for referencing an *k74

[brave herald]

Don't forget to sue the sun for causing skin cancer.

[green wave]

Companies self censoring to avoid a shit storm from happening years later

[quartz fossil]

Who said they do

[strong echo]

I hate this, Im sure the majority doesn't care about this yet the minority gets to have it their way

[abstract walrus]

censorship is only censorship if you're impacting someone's intrinsic rights

[quartz fossil]

Okay you don't understand what the word censorship means

[green wave]

Like that time you muted me?

[tidal current]

If this was the goal it wouldnt be selective. A good number of weapons in BF6 use their military designation or the designation of some military that uses it. If the goal was genuinley due to fear of some stupid backlash, they wouldnt use real guns in the first place.

Its just trademarks, its really that simple.

[quartz fossil]

Game companies being afraid of using real life gun names because they might get sued by a lunatic anti gun group is the definition censorship of arts

[wise cloak]

For the mods beaming over the chat right now this what happens when we waiting for a good game to release. Its a good sign 👍

[abstract walrus]

ok sigh... I, too, can push my akshually glasses up
yes, the literal definition of censorship includes valid cases that have nothing to do with rights.
I'm here in 2025 though, where censorship is carrying real world meanings

[craggy tapir]

Nah, this is just what happens when you gather over 450,000 people in one discord

[green wave]

Not that many are active though

[strong echo]

What happened? Did I miss something?

[quartz fossil]

You just said a bunch of gibberish

[tidal current]

hook line and sinker

[quartz fossil]

Censorship of arts isn't real censorship is one hell of a take

[abstract walrus]

what's being censored?

[quartz fossil]

Real life gun names

[delicate quartz]

[abstract walrus]

you think gun manufacturers put their brands in the public domain?

[deep glade]

It’s not censorship, it’s intellectual property

[hallow geode]

COD got sued for making maps set in locations without permission from said location. I'm sure the same would happen with gun names

[tidal current]

The truth nuke is that all copyright law is censorship meant to serve the interests of profit

[quartz fossil]

You think EA is too poor to afford rights to use names lol

[delicate quartz]

the company that dropped FIFA?

[quartz fossil]

Idiots in this chat are legit clueless

[abstract walrus]

wut now you're saying they do indeed have to pay for it you're just mad they won't cough up the money

[deep glade]

The interest of competition

[quasi breach]

yeah I thought that's why every game used slightly modified names

[quartz fossil]

No that's not what I said you don't seem to comprehend basic English

[tidal current]

If it was for competition youd allow me to tell a copywrited story in a better way, write a better remix of a song, improve upon a design in a patent.

[craggy tapir]

Without copyright law, every big company would just make cheaper versions of every new product since they already have the means of producing things at mass

[delicate quartz]

same as GTA with their cars, stick two cars together and make up a name and you've avoided having to pay anyone, but you still know what cars they're based off

[quasi breach]

so i shouldn't copyright something I made?

[deep glade]

No, it means you have to come up with a better way than copying what already exists

[abstract walrus]

look up Breenbergh Hotel and Activision

[tidal current]

most direct iteration break copywrite law. You dont make advancement by reinventing the wheel over and over.

[quartz fossil]

Selling the same thing but cheaper should qualify as better. It would only benefit the consumer

[craggy tapir]

Depending on what you do with it, you can do those with copyright laws under fair use

[tidal current]

cause as we all know, fair use is respected and consistently applied

On the topic of gun companies, I wonder if any of them have tried to twist a game devs arm for advertising purposes. Could be one hell of an ad if your gun is running rampant in the meta for a month.

[abstract walrus]

That's like CS when it went to CS Source and losing all its RL weapon names

[quartz fossil]

Nintendo being allowed to copyright vague video game concepts yipee I love copyright laws

[green wave]

https://youtu.be/okMhLCaPuuM?si=WYMzkDAgTSXODgdN

[tidal current]

so much competition!

[craggy tapir]

Can’t wait for them to try using that copyright just to be countered with the fact that games have been doing most of their copyrighted content before Nintendo even made video games

Especially considering the fact that Nintendo took the capture format from a different game

[deep glade]

Or be like Ubisoft, license the gun names

[red kiln]

Remember how they ©️ the nemesis system then never use it again and no one could make a better system?

[deep glade]

Yes that is dumb, causes it’s a patent

[red kiln]

Meh, samething

[quartz fossil]

People being brainwashed by multinational mega corporations that copyright law benefits anyone besides the big companies is one of the biggest issues nowadays

[deep glade]

Not really

[red kiln]

Dont write me a bible i swear

[deep glade]

Patents are like concepts of things, copyright is the exact property

[red kiln]

Thank god it wasent a bible

[craggy tapir]

Patent law benefits large companies a lot

Copyright laws benefit everybody cause it means that some big company cant just use your work without paying you

[deep glade]

Just like Sony holds a patent about shouting a brands name at the TV to make it end the ad😂

[red kiln]

Make patents disapear if the owner dosent use it/dont alow others to licence it

[deep glade]

It does expire

[quartz fossil]

How does it benefit the consumer? Companies regardless of size should be allowed to replicate things if it means they can reduce the cost.

[red kiln]

Make it expire, faster

[deep glade]

It expires in 2036

The nemesis system

[red kiln]

Too much

[quartz fossil]

This is nonsensical, plenty of things were invented and people got rich off of their inventions before copyright laws existed

[craggy tapir]

Copyright is about creative work

It basically just means someone can’t take someone else’s work of art and use it without their consent

[quartz fossil]

Why not

[red kiln]

Make it expire after 3 years of it not being used/licensed

[fluid adder]

RIF 😍😍

[deep glade]

RIF?

[craggy tapir]

• someone spends 200 hours on a beautiful work of art

• company sees it, takes it, uses it, and refuses to pay the original owner for their effort

[quartz fossil]

Me when I copy paste an image on the internets

[deep glade]

Well you’re not using it commercially

[quartz fossil]

"someone spent 2000 hours making that you need their permission!!!"

[craggy tapir]

That… doesn’t violate copyright law? Not unless you’re using it commercially

[deep glade]

You can do anything privately basically

[quartz fossil]

^

Again how does it benefit the consumer

[craggy tapir]

Inventions have nothing to do with copyright law

Patent law deals with inventions

[quartz fossil]

How did people benefit from their inventions before patent laws

[deep glade]

You could call Mickey Mouse an invention

Before the public domain and copyright expire

[abstract walrus]

didn't that happen already?

[craggy tapir]

They kept their manufacturing specifics secret

Just like what Coke does nowadays

[deep glade]

Yes, 2024

[quartz fossil]

Theft of an actual thing deprives the stolen party of actual physical goods.

Concepts and digital shit don't have scarcity.

[quartz fossil]

Woah really?

[deep glade]

Their ingredients aren’t secret, the proportion and blend is tho

Just like Nutella

[quartz fossil]

Why do we need copyright and patent laws again?

[craggy tapir]

Well yeah. They’re legally required to put the ingredients on the label

If you find the proper blend you can legally sell an exact copy of coke lol

[deep glade]

By law consumer goods must declare ingredients here in the EU, not the exact blend

[quartz fossil]

Like I said anyone should be allowed to copy another product and resell it cheaper.

This will only benefit the consumer. And as long as there is demand someone will keep doing this.

[deep glade]

Well it’s a question of capitalism

[quartz fossil]

What I described is capitalism

[deep glade]

Why would you market and profit if everything just goes to 0

[quartz fossil]

LMAO why would it go to 0

[deep glade]

If you can just keep copying and make it cheaper

[quartz fossil]

Yeah and it would never be 0

[deep glade]

Then the consumer would simply want the cheapest

[deep glade]

It’s called over exaggeration

[quartz fossil]

Nothing is free things cost X to make

[quartz fossil]

Cheaper =/= Free

There will be profits and operations cost + employees salaries etc etc

[deep glade]

As I said, over exaggeration

[abstract walrus]

There's no innovation incentive if someone isn't fairly paid for their work

[quartz fossil]

Hahahahaha

Fairly paid

[deep glade]

Well true mostly, but not always

[quartz fossil]

Value is subjective there is no such thing as fair pay

[abstract walrus]

If we assume it costs X to create something, where does X come from if you have no guarantee of being paid for what you make?

[deep glade]

The patent of insulin was sold for a dollar

[abstract walrus]

That was exceptional and actual philanthropy

[deep glade]

For the greater good

[quartz fossil]

Just horsehit by the economically illiterate

[deep glade]

A pill is like a cent

[abstract walrus]

Once you have it developed sure

[quartz fossil]

So someone will always make them as long as there is demand

[abstract walrus]

You want actually reputable researchers developing in a proper lab environment, not whatever that $.01 will get the company

[tired yarrow]

Walked in during some good ole fashioned capitalism… nice

[abstract walrus]

Not to say pharma is overall reputable lol... I'm not at all saying that but there is a minimum cost to things

[quartz fossil]

I don't give a shit about rewarding the original creator as much money as humanly possible I want things to be as affordable as possible for the benefit of consumers

[red kiln]

Same here in southamerica

[tired yarrow]

Big pharmaceutical tend to triple the cost, then triple it again. Then roll the dice and that’s the next multiplier

[deep glade]

Well luckily I don’t have to pay a single dime for medicine #socialism

[abstract walrus]

Absolutely true and their practices to push and harass medical professionals is abhorrent. But there's still a cost to things

[tired yarrow]

They likely employ somebody to roll that dice too

[quartz fossil]

Weird how big pharma loves patents and copyright laws so they can have a monopoly on X drug and charge a gazillion dollars

[tired yarrow]

All those years of DnD finally paying off

[quartz fossil]

What I described is capitalism. Copyright laws and Patent laws are gommunism.

Most people are too smoothbrained to comprehend this truth nuke...

[tired yarrow]

Th fallout is to much to handle for the feeble minded

[deep glade]

What

[quartz fossil]

DnD irl

[deep glade]

How is copyright communism, it literally serves to give a single company profit monopoly on their invention

In communism you wouldn’t be able to have copyright, the state would own it

Make your own recipe and sell it to crackheads for a license fee

[wise cloak]

This was very insightful. Thanks for the link. Its a pitty things end up like this but I dont blame the studios for any of this at the end of the day they are there to make a game not get into legal issues. I do care for the realistic implementation of the weapon more than the name. I am glad that at least the model and functionality can be treated authentically.

[red kiln]

As a libertarian bro spreaded truth

[abstract walrus]

not a new approach

[deep glade]

Well I don’t know about that

[tidal current]

who enforces copywrite. Do you? Or do the authorities?
Who really controls your IP and decides who gets to claim to "own" it

[deep glade]

The state enforces that you own it, but that isn’t able to happen in communism

So it’s a mix

[tidal current]

sure

[deep glade]

Can’t have YOUR property in true, classless communism

[mint fern]

Hey everyone hope we're all doing good today we got anymore news about the game yet apart from the trailer yesterday?

[craggy tapir]

Y’know, I always love seeing people defend communism considering the fact that it will never work as long as humans are involved (not saying you are)

[deep glade]

Well I can’t see it working simply due to human nature, someone will always want to regulate or control in some way

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. Communism only works for machines and angels

Everyone has to be perfectly good in order for it to work

[deep glade]

True

I can see it being a paradise goal, but with human evolved mentality, it can’t

Not even animals have classless flocks or groups

Nearly always someone in the top authority

[wicked tusk]

furry communism when

[red kiln]

Let us be ruled by ai, better than 99% politics

[lyric comet]

55 billion deal 💰💰

[wicked tusk]

sorry/not sorry
comrade

[deep glade]

AI is built on human behaviour tho

[craggy tapir]

Grok is going to send us all to the gulag with how many stupid questions people have asked it

[wicked tusk]

you don't travel much do you

[deep glade]

Ehhh, this is a whole conflict that can get messy lol

[rose inlet]

I've been there buddy

[civic herald]

I hope heli is easy to take down as it easy to get kills with

[abstract walrus]

I love this attempt to recenter the channel

[deep glade]

From gameplay it has the health of a paper plane

[civic herald]

It has tooo please one rpg hit to kill it

[craggy tapir]

I hope the respawn time is fast for them lol

[civic herald]

Oh I just get here

[deep glade]

Yeah, always should be one hit RPG, but two hits for AA rocket

[lyric comet]

Pls mods delete racist politics commnents thank you 🧡

[abstract walrus]

🤝 thank you for your good timing

[tidal current]

have you been to Riyadh?

[wicked tusk]

sure why not

[civic herald]

AA should 1 shot to or else no one would bring

[abstract walrus]

trying to remember... does RPG honor a designated target?

[civic herald]

Everyone in bf games use rpg anyways

[low spade]

what

[craggy tapir]

AA launchers can be flared away though

[deep glade]

If targeted by SOFLAM yes

[lyric comet]

By respectful no hate 🧡

[low spade]

who hate

[abstract walrus]

I agree with 1hk rpg/heli if it didn't somehow have a guidance system like that

[deep glade]

Nah, I don’t agree. You should be reward by using non guided rocket, vs easy AA rockets constantly locking

It’s risk to reward ratio for using AA vs RPG

[abstract walrus]

But there's less risk if the RPG can be guided, no?

[wicked tusk]

are you high?
don't answer that question

[deep glade]

With AA, anyone can lock all the time, vs RPG have to be skill timed (or lock)

[deep glade]

You’d have to have some use the soflam constantly

[abstract walrus]

31 other players, it's not that unlikely

[rose inlet]

Mods deleting stuff

[wicked tusk]

yea i think you just need to delete the ban bait guy

[low spade]

People should be rewarded for using the soflam

[abstract walrus]

I'm a soflam guy myself when I play recon for that exact reason

[deep glade]

It don’t really happen that often in my matches with soflam

It’s like every 1/4 match

And then I just fly away, so I believe the reward of using RPG should be higher than no skill AA

[wicked tusk]

yeesh, gotta step away while the mods are at play

[civic herald]

Bf6 beta was fun bc air wasnt that strong like bf2042 (unfun)

[deep glade]

No, it was not fun

[lyric comet]

Be respectful for all 🧡

[tidal current]

there was one helicopter in the entire beta

[deep glade]

The air vehicles hit you with nerf bullets

[civic herald]

There was like jets and things

[deep glade]

The jet was so garbage

[wicked tusk]

all i know is that if i hit an aircraft with an RPG and it doesn't get destroyed i am going to scream

[tidal current]

still not a lot to judge from

[rose inlet]

Alr bro

[abstract walrus]

There's a lot of room between the bf6 beta and 2042 with air vehicles

[deep glade]

However, from the new gameplay from TBAG gaming on YouTube, where he uses the release version, the heli smacks a punch and dies fast.

It’s like a glass canon

[abstract walrus]

2042 the sweats were over-rewarded in some ways but on the flipside you don't want to punish someone for simply being good

[civic herald]

Thats good

[deep glade]

Yeah, but the current gameplay of the missiles has me worried

[civic herald]

In bf2042 some heli can survive like 6 rockets

[deep glade]

They kill a tank it like 4 seconds

[red kiln]

At least its straight forward not like the backstabing politics in power

[abstract walrus]

that sounds like proper rock paper scissors if skilled infantry can hard counter a heli with an rpg 1hk, the heli can counter the tank, and the tank steamrolls the infantry

[lone bear]

What about eod bot

[abstract walrus]

my man 🙂 excellent point

[wicked tusk]

eod bot should instakill

[abstract walrus]

eod dismantling treads left and right, leaving a tank stuck wherever

[wicked tusk]

eod vs heli

[lyric comet]

I pre ordered bf6 today 💛

[abstract walrus]

eod climbing assault ladders

[lone bear]

Eod was lowk bonkers in 2042, inf battery life and it had like 300 hp

[civic herald]

I never used eod bot before

[red kiln]

I dont like aircraft being 1hit

It should be 17 hits tbh

[wicked tusk]

small arms should take them down easy

[civic herald]

In 2042 I barely see any

[lone bear]

Thats because the average 2042 player is a nerd

[wicked tusk]

made of paper mache

[red kiln]

👏

I pre ordered bo7 yesterday

[wicked tusk]

oof

[lone bear]

Whatever floats your boat

[red kiln]

[civic herald]

The average bluberry is clueless

[abstract walrus]

not too much judgement... a little bit of judgement

[deep glade]

We need navy in BF6, please

[wicked tusk]

no preorders, boys

[deep glade]

Too late, I got preorder on sale

[primal hare]

Has anyone else reconsidered their purchase of the game because of the recent news of the leveraged buyout?

[mint fern]

Same here

[civic herald]

Omg your mod that means u can post a gif

[wicked tusk]

i bought an AMD processor
AFTER the promo, i didn't even got borderlands whichever number they are on now

i could have sold it for a couple bucks

[deep glade]

The game is gonna turn Muslim

[abstract walrus]

yes but not that combat boat from bf3 lol

[lone bear]

I might pre order phantom, ive already made it this far with completing the free pass, so i might aswell go the extra mile

[wicked tusk]

but only before the release, i don't think you can get any money for borderlands right now

[deep glade]

Give us stuff from BF1, like a whole destroyer

[primal hare]

I'm thinking more along the lines that we start seeing Ronaldo skins or some shit

[wicked tusk]

game looks like it shipped in a really poor state

[primal hare]

Who wants to play as Tom Brady bf6?

[wicked tusk]

i want to play as giselle

[deep glade]

Well we inevitably will, and the BR is gonna be the main game mode for BF

[lone bear]

Thats what fortnite is for

[civic herald]

For private equity dont they try to improve the game

So that its worth more

[deep glade]

Only if it brings money

[primal hare]

They try to milk it for all the money it can make, they will immediately need to find a way to pay down a large figure of debt after the buyout

[deep glade]

The only difference is just that now it’s a single ownership thay can profit off Peter Griffin skins instead of sharing it with shareholders

So dumb choices won’t be as bad as shareholders won’t have a thing to say

[civic herald]

Based on bf2042 skins I think theyll keep for more realism

[wicked tusk]

lol is this cod or fortnite
you know what
don't answer that

[civic herald]

Even though some is colorful they arent like fortnite skin

[lone bear]

Robot boris

[deep glade]

Santa Clause skin would like a word

[timid otter]

will there be girl anime skins in BF6?

[wicked tusk]

only anime chicks

no milsim

[rapid flicker]

Is anyone else slightly annoyed that you can’t change your classes gender

[abstract walrus]

The most recent trailer put a nail in the meme-skin coffin for now I think

[deep glade]

Why does gender matter

[primal hare]

Absolutely

[lone bear]

True

[rapid flicker]

I’d just rather play as a male soldier cause I’m a male

[lone bear]

I literally never once noticed it in my 20 hours on the open beta

[abstract walrus]

I'd rather play left-handed because I'm left-handed and seeing the gun on the right side of the screen is always worse

[deep glade]

I’m a guy too, but you don’t even see your skin

[civic herald]

Someone said therell be 3 options of character per class in your team

[lone bear]

I was too busy blowing stuff up

[rapid flicker]

Really? I didn’t know that

[civic herald]

I dont have proof tho

[deep glade]

Each class has a sub faction, some of the sub factions are locked male and female

[lone bear]

Thats a lot of voicelines

[civic herald]

I just wanted fem support for pax

[rapid flicker]

I just wanna be able to play male support

[abstract walrus]

I like to imagine that in spite of soundproofing, they have something like Scream Saturday where they bring in the voice actors to let out all their bloodcurdling noises and such without as many people there at the office

[lone bear]

Sounds abour right

[deep glade]

Like BF1, they were all in a room shouting voice lines

German voices lines

[white moss]

I'll still get BF6 but this gonna be my last EA game. And last Battlefield as well. Time for one last ride.

[rapid flicker]

But to be fair makes sense they don’t do bf 5 like customization cause of the amount of character models they are already making

[civic herald]

If theres 2 teams and 4 classes and 3 subfaction per class thats like 24 different character

[white moss]

Do we know if bf6 devs going to be laid off or not?

[lone bear]

24 people all in a room screaming at the same time

What a time to be alive

[abstract walrus]

oops, took the wrong way to the cafeteria for lunch and thought I wasn't gonna make it out alive for a second there

[mint fern]

It'd be nice to have a tiny bit of character customization apart from the camos/skins, by that i mean choice of gender and voice differences. Like a choice of 3 male voices and 3 female voices. Would be cool and a small change i think

[primal hare]

I was hoping the customization was going to be bf5 esque

[steel sundial]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/ea-is-reportedly-about-to-be-sold-in-a-record-setting-usd50-billion-buyout-to-an-investor-group-that-includes-private-equity-and-saudi-arabia/

[primal hare]

Easily some of the best in the series

[deep glade]

The best*

[white moss]

Apparently it's official now

[blazing moon]

Same Icl that game had a bunch of options and I’m a sucker for customising shit

[mint fern]

Actually i agree bf5 had some nice customization

[clear oriole]

Salut tout le monde
J’ai précommandé la version fantôme en physique . Y as t’il encore une bêta ?

[deep glade]

English

[blazing moon]

Oui or sumn

[weary horizon]

Rip the franchise

[lone bear]

I REALLY hope this doesnt effect the game too much

[weary horizon]

Too late.

[lone bear]

Did it already effect the game?

[strong echo]

What does that mean

[blazing moon]

Fr I don’t want them to have a lot of control over where the franchise is going.

[primal hare]

It's not going to bode well for the next 3 years of the game dlc and update wise. Who knows if the same people developing it will be the same people at the head of the project even a year from now.

Especially for balancing and patches.

[deep glade]

Ya’ll saw that the Producer of BF6 responded the criticism of not being able to choose gender: “Or chose the soldier with the gender you want👍”

[blazing moon]

Let’s just hope the people working on the game now just add a bunch of content before it potentially goes downhill

[weary horizon]

Already bought them. Writing is on the wall.

[primal hare]

Based

[deep glade]

So yeah, no gender option coming

[blazing moon]

Yeah bruh it didn’t really answer the question of the original poster

[deep glade]

Well you’re not a soldier in real life too

[blazing moon]

Like it’s fine playing as a female like the people who hate that are strange. But Atleast having the option will make people happy

[mint fern]

Oh shit really?? I didn't see that hell yeah

[cerulean sparrow]

wait why? what happened?

[strong echo]

Takes alot of courage to say that publicly lmfao

[blazing moon]

He farted

[primal hare]

The Saudis and Jared Kushner

[rose inlet]

Careful now, mods may ban u

[deep glade]

https://x.com/lex_mate/status/1968799561305952373?s=46

[ember radish]

People are just being drama queens. It's not like EA wasn't anti-consumer before. It's been their whole thing for the past 10 years.

[broken cedar]

It'd be nice if you could and would be genuinely more "inclusive" as people could be who they want. But I don't really care all that much

[blazing moon]

They gave me a 7 day ban at some point. Idek why

[primal hare]

I want to play as an 80 year old Hungarian watch maker

[ivory haven]

So
Option A or Option B like most games

[broken cedar]

That is very silly given the class system

[deep glade]

Yeah it’s odd

[blazing moon]

Bruh imagine down the line if skins become gender locked lmao. That’d be shit

[mint fern]

I think its just a neat little change to the game, doesn't completely mess anything up or ruin the experience at least.

[deep glade]

The skins are already gender locked

[tidal current]

does he know?

[broken cedar]

It would mean they have to have m/f models for each skin so I get why they're not doing it

[blazing moon]

Oh yeah lmao I had a brain fart mb guys

[cerulean sparrow]

wait ea actually got bought by saudi arabia?

[broken cedar]

It's extra work they'd have to do

[red kiln]

I mean, if the basic soliders have back ground lore i dont mind not being able to change gender

[deep glade]

Every class has a sub faction of skins, with different soldier models, all with different locked genders

[red kiln]

Good enough

[mint fern]

Oh wait so they're NOT doing it okay i thought they were either way won't ruin the game if its added or if its left out

[deep glade]

I mean, I personally don’t care what I play as in multiplayer

But I do in single player tho, not gonna lie

[blazing moon]

So long as the gameplay is sick then it’s fine

[broken cedar]

I think it should be added so people can play how they want for the people who do care, but I don't think enough people care

[broken cedar]

Nah I actually like how BF has always just put you in the shoes of the character they're telling a story for in the campaign

[mint fern]

I mean true it'd be nice, personally id love to play as a gal character just because of preference. But tbh i dont need it as a requirement myself.

[merry mortar]

Stupid argument ngl, other people can see so let them look how they want

[rose inlet]

We got gta 6, it's cool

[red kiln]

People getting deleted fr

[blazing moon]

Big brother is watching

[ivory haven]

Of course

[deep glade]

GTA pleases everyone with having a male and female, solid move

[mint fern]

Is it bad im only hyped for gta 6 just to see the vehicles and the crash physics?

[red kiln]

Just as any gta before

[broken cedar]

Same - I'd prefer playing a guy because I'm a guy, and I'd like for people to have the choice of playing as a woman if they want especially with modern militaries allowing women in front line combat anyway, so it'd actually make sense in this game.

[red kiln]

I just hype for og jetpack back

[mint fern]

I mean kinda, and kinda not, crash physics in 4 and 5 were vastly different

[red kiln]

I want to play sniper woman to honour grandmother

If theres not a female recon i will refund fr

[mint fern]

Oh yeah totally i get what you mean.

[broken cedar]

Pretty sure it's engi that's the female character in BF6 so

[red kiln]

Refunding

[broken cedar]

Unless I'm trippin

[red kiln]

Just give us bfv customization

[broken cedar]

I wouldn't go as far as BFV skins tho lol

[hallow geode]

Can ya'll make sure I don't get eaten by a snake before BF6 comes out?

[red kiln]

Ye

[red kiln]

Australian?

[broken cedar]

Don't go outside, you're welcome

[civic herald]

Why is it say Jared Kushner is buying EA

[hallow geode]

Nope lol just felt like randomly saying snake

[civic herald]

And Saudi Arabia

[deep glade]

Part of it

Collectively

[ivory haven]

BFV customization had many draw backs. But the customizing each part of the uniform was alright

[red kiln]

Who is jared kushner

[hallow geode]

What if one breaks through my window snakes on a plane style?

[civic herald]

Is that like when he got billions from saudi arabi in trump first presidency

[broken cedar]

Get stronger windows first

[civic herald]

The same money

[hallow geode]

aite on it

[lost lance]

dont worry saudi arabia will soon make it impossible to play as a woman without a male character present within 2 meters at all times

[red kiln]

Are ea the good guys now ?

[deep glade]

Donald trump son in law

[red kiln]

Oh

[jade surge]

The MK4 is locked behind dlc?

[lost lance]

ea somehow got even fucking worse which is an impressive feat

[red kiln]

How?

[broken cedar]

Hey, at least they allow them to drive now?

[lost lance]

saudi arabia and the trump family owning them?

[red kiln]

Wdym worse i like the battlefield 6 and fc 26 changes

[jade surge]

Because they're now owned by the trump administration and the saudis

[delicate bough]

This game will suck without getting to play as Paddy Pimblet

[broken cedar]

They're not yet, are they?

[red kiln]

Isent that just investment? The arabs own my football club and it only got better and better overtime

[jade surge]

Q1 2027.

[deep glade]

Next year they will, April 2026

[white moss]

So any of you not getting the game now?

[lost lance]

they will be formally owned by q1 2027 but you can bet your ass they will already pull the strings

[red kiln]

I dont see how thats a bad thing unless they start pushing bad directive dessitions

[broken cedar]

god damnit

[deep glade]

And that is April 2026

[jade surge]

The new owners went 20 billion dollars in debt to get this purchase, you can bet your ass there will be studio closures, mass layoffs and dlc coming out of every hole

[civic herald]

A leveraged buyout means that the firm takes control of the company

[hallow geode]

how come?

[quartz depot]

MAKE BATTLEFIELD GREAT AGAIN 😅

[white moss]

I'm still getting it. I ain't getting the next one though.

[deep glade]

Every match will costs 2 dollars to start now

[hallow geode]

any particular reason you asking?

[red kiln]

Yeah i know, that dosent mean ita going to be bad

[white moss]

I'm just curious

[lost lance]

i cant wait for journalist sawbone simulator ❗

[hallow geode]

fair

[willow lance]

You guys aren’t getting the game because EA is sold, I’m not getting the game because BF6 watered down movement and mechanics, we aren’t the same

[broken cedar]

Man your form of trolling is so much better than those people last night, welcome back

[ivory haven]

No pork.

[white moss]

I liked the beta that was enough for me

[red kiln]

Your ragebait isent effective anymore try another strat

Dam

[sinful pewter]

Ur a clown

[red kiln]

Bros gona be banished

Bro got banished

[broken cedar]

I like the beta, I'm gonna get the game and enjoy it for as long as it's good

[white moss]

We will be fine for at least 2 seasons

[lost lance]

any promises of no fortnite skins is probably gonna be broken faster than was ever planned before now

so excited for family guy battlefield

[white moss]

I'm hoping the worst that happens is stupid skins.

[red kiln]

I dont mind the arabs, they know how to do business, they got my beloved man city to be a very competitive club

[deep glade]

This is gonna be spicy

[hallow geode]

I mean if the next game comes out within 2 years of this one I definitely won't get the next one.

3 years minimum for me to be interested in next one

[broken cedar]

Doing business != good creative control for video games. We'll see how things go, though.

[red kiln]

Theres gona be at least 10 seasons soo 5 years

[ivory haven]

It already is, now there is just another level of added [redacted] to the mix. Lol

[steel sundial]

the deal is done, EA CEO put out a statement

[deep glade]

Only good private company to produce great games is Valve

[hallow geode]

Wherever you heard that... hellll yeahhhh 🔥

[steel sundial]

EA has confirmed it has agreed to be acquired by an investor group composed of PIF, Silver Lake, and Affinity Partners in a transaction valued at approximately $55 billion. It's the largest all-cash sponsor take-private investment in history.

[civic herald]

Why did saudi arabia and jared kushner want EA so badly

[red kiln]

They won't do anything that harms business soo they will try to keep fans pleased, yeah they maight push monetization but polemic stuff will not be pushed.

[steel sundial]

Andrew Wilson, EA Chairman and CEO, commented:

“Our creative and passionate teams at EA have delivered extraordinary experiences for hundreds of millions of fans, built some of the world’s most iconic IP, and created significant value for our business. This moment is a powerful recognition of their remarkable work.

[willow lance]

Fromsoft

[idle kelp]

Last EA game I will ever buy tbh

[broken cedar]

Monetization kills games

[ivory haven]

Control.
Like how Black Rock buys up things

[red kiln]

Dam my english gets wierd at this time lol

[red kiln]

Fornitification kills games

Well done monetization dosent

[white moss]

No idea for Jared. But for Saudis they are branching out and getting into the entertainment industry. Much easier to just buy EA than build from the ground up. Can't remember if oil is even their main money maker anymore.

[deep glade]

Not private. Owned by a public company, Kadokawa Corporation

[lost lance]

its why they host so many huge esports tournaments so that at least gamers think that saudi is a cooooooooool place to be

[red kiln]

Ie a monetization that dosent affect core mechanics and gameplay

[willow lance]

What about Sandfall?

[civic herald]

Saudia Arabia only let women start driving in 2017 🥹

[lost lance]

theyre so progressive!

[idle kelp]

Do you think they paid for it in gold?

[white moss]

I hope so

I ain't trusting paper

[deep glade]

Private so far, cause it’s so new

[white moss]

My prediction is after around season 2 outfits go crazy but everything else about BF6 stays mostly the same.

[broken cedar]

Congrats, that's how you get CoD skins

[willow lance]

Cods monetization effects gameplay though

[deep glade]

My mistake. Their publisher is Keppler Interactive

[white moss]

Like one outfit did but was fixed later.

[red kiln]

Read again

[willow lance]

P2W pitch black skins that makes you invisible in dark areas, selling 30 blueprints for meta guns etc.

[molten anvil]

hey should i buy the normal or phantom edition is it worth the extra money

[deep glade]

Do you like battlepass?

[willow lance]

Phantom isn’t worth extra money imo

[red kiln]

Depends what you consider worth

[molten anvil]

idk i mainly like customisation

[white moss]

I only got standard. No idea what battlepass has and didn't care for the crimson skins

[broken cedar]

According to some people, skins "don't affect mechanics or gameplay" so they're fair game

[deep glade]

Phantom will give you many skins and 25 battlepass tiers and more XP boosts

[molten anvil]

i like the phantom ghillie

[white moss]

Only the rose character in siege did and I think that Groot character in call of duty. Both got fixed later though.

[hallow geode]

Phantom edition is pointless for me because i'm going to play the game the absolute most during the initial first few weeks. If I could benefit from boosts it would be in later seasons if fatigue set in which I doubt it will anyway for me

[willow lance]

Cod always adds P2W skins to their battlepasses at least once in a game

[white moss]

First season could have junk cosmetics. I mean look at 2042 most of it in my opinion was junk

[willow lance]

Terminator in BO6, Roze in MW2

[white moss]

But weren't they both fixed?

[willow lance]

3 months later yeah

[white moss]

Well one thing is certain. No loot boxes since that is gambling.

[hallow geode]

it's also just not fun to me to have a headstart on anything like that when the game has literally just launched. I like starting from 0. Whatever that 0 relates to

[ivory haven]

Only Battle Passes

[white moss]

Yes

[low spade]

Hmph. So the Saudi's and Kushner bought out EA?

[white moss]

I know why Saudis did it not sure why Kushner did though

[low spade]

Kusher's affinity fund is entirely funded by the Saudi's.

So it's just more Saudi money

[deep glade]

Lmao the instagram comments about the purchase of EA is full of certain opinions

[white moss]

So The Line map when?

[civic herald]

I wonder if buying out video games is to make propaganda to kids

[deep glade]

After every match there will be a mandatory prayer

[white moss]

I can see the line being the metro of bf6

[broken cedar]

That's totally fair. I might get it cuz I'll be busy in Oct but not later so I could use the boost

[low spade]

Big doubt @coinflip. Saudi is buying up all types of entertainment rn. They're big on making money first.

[ivory haven]

Well some games have the agenda in them

[civic herald]

Isnt the same company also buying tiktok in US

[broken cedar]

They're trying to diversify from oil money.

[low spade]

Yep, they see the writing on the wall

[ivory haven]

Only one more Monday to get through.

[willow lance]

Can’t wait for a Dubai map

[white moss]

Dubai would be fun

[willow lance]

Doha wasn’t fun in 42

[white moss]

Be very Spec Ops The Line

[broken cedar]

Like genuinely they'll probably be fine as long as the purchase doesn't get too politicized. I don't like the Saudi government either, but this is part of their play to get more sources of revenue than oil and they will most likely be thinking of it as a long-term investment

[mint fern]

Dubai chocolate gun camo. (This is a joke don't take this seriously im being stupid )

[white moss]

Bf6 should be fine for awhile. Worst that comes to is wacky outfits.

[low spade]

I don't think anythign is going to come of us honestly

[broken cedar]

I can see it being terrible if they try and recoup costs too soon after purchase. But if they're viewing it long-term it won't change anything.

[white moss]

I get the joke. However that building has plumbing now I believe

[hallow geode]

The concept art looked peak for it. The finished product...... welll

[deep glade]

Just let them drill some more oil and the debt is gone

[white moss]

The biggest thing to look for is will bf6 devs get laid off or not.

Also someone tell the Saudis to make another burnout.

[red kiln]

Im not one of those people, you would now that if you readed the previous coments that gave birth to that statement

[low spade]

Doubt they will if the game makes money

[white moss]

Imagine if it was 2042 coming out now and not bf6. We would be doomed

[pine socket]

is this the EA acquisition panic room?

[red kiln]

People complaining about the arabs yet no one would reject a free astral 5090 dhahab edition

[low spade]

Who is panicking here lol

[white moss]

Does it come with a prayer mat

[red kiln]

Im panicking bcs i cant wait anymore for bf6

[low spade]

Who's matt? haha

[pine socket]

Something something big debt for the new "Private" EA
something something mass layoffs, something something aggressive monetization

[ivory haven]

XD
If we had a Chicago map or Portland, OR map it would be perfect for what is happening

[red kiln]

Mass layoffs?

[hallow geode]

This will help you. Say Goose fraba a few times

[low spade]

It's EA. The company that invented aggressive monetization lmfao. It's not gonna get worse. Honestly, I don't expect anything to change as long as it makes money.

[red kiln]

I dont get it

[pine socket]

Jason Schreier‬
‪@jasonschreier.bsky.social‬

A lot of people are (understandably) focused on the Saudi Arabia and Kushner part of this, but the far bigger immediate impact will come from the new private EA being on the hook for $20 billion in debt. That could mean mass layoffs, more aggressive monetization, and other big cost-cutting measures

[hallow geode]

anger management quote - Jack Nicholson, Adam Sandler movie. One of Sandler's few good movies

[red kiln]

Sandler only produces good movies

[mint fern]

If this affects bf6 i will be Lowkey kinda pissed off

[balmy peak]

I'm crying over this EA acquisiton. I was so ready to buy BF6. I can't do that now. I can't support this.

[red kiln]

[broken cedar]

so what you're saying is buy phantom edition to pay off the saudis, got it

[rose inlet]

Yh they are also moving towards tourism with NEOM

[strong gorge]

I hope my battlefield 6 copy doesnt turn into ransomware if I say anything remotely woke

[low spade]

Kotaku news reporter who's dedicated his entire life to attempting to scare the video game entertainment industry?

[red kiln]

Why? Game its game regardless

[abstract spear]

reading helps

[ivory haven]

The longest wait for BF6 won’t be the Thursday before, it shall be the Wednesday before.

[pine socket]

he is like half credible, some of his reporting/predictions were accurate

i get your point howevr

[hallow geode]

Anger management is great but these days he's better sticking with serious movies. He's lost his comedic ability

[white moss]

It shouldn't for at least two seasons. Again worse thing that comes to pass is wacky outfits.

[distant pendant]

Going private is not necessarily a bad thing, only time will tell

[civic herald]

What is kotaku

[pine socket]

Doing your part

[ivory haven]

Evil.

[white moss]

Horrible source

[distant pendant]

drama/gossip magazine for gaming

[jade surge]

Vehicles boosted? Huh!

[mint fern]

Yeah but wacky outfits will make this entire games pr go to shit ngl after that last trailer especially

[civic herald]

Well its probably true cus thats what private equity companies do in leveraged buyout

[red kiln]

Tell bro he already has ransomware in the form of windows, ios/android.

[civic herald]

Layoffs, less pay, aggressive moneziation

[white moss]

Imb4runslinux

[abstract spear]

Let's just hope bc3 stays a bad company like game

[ivory haven]

Pay attention to who they might Lay Off.

[willow lance]

If they start layoffs BF studios will largely be unscathed

Other EA studios though, they might not be that safe

[low spade]

Bioware is 10x more likely to catch full layoffs before DICE, regardless. I hope they don't have to layoff people in general

[steel sundial]

they could move out of california and immediately save 20%

[broken cedar]

don't be silly they'd never do that

[steel sundial]

i would

[rose inlet]

Less pay will only happen in Saudi, EA has to follow the employment laws of the countries it has offices in so that would mean good pay for the europeans. On the other hand , the saudi employees may get "less pay". But then again the saudi government pays for the citizens healthcare and other things like families recieving money when a child is born

[broken cedar]

well I don't live in CA either

[ivory haven]

It’s Hell.

[low spade]

Chudmaxxing incoming

[broken cedar]

I agree that moving ops somewhere less expensive would be a good idea, and it's always funny telling californians that my rent for a 2br apt is $750/mo lmao

[steel sundial]

and no, it was oracle that was buying tiktok, larry ellison and son

oracle/skydance

[strong gorge]

I will be getting on that battlefield 6 mobile hell yeah

[hallow geode]

Destiny rising turned out better than the current state of destiny 2 so anything's possible with mobile games 🤣

[cold panther]

naval combat is overrated

someone had to say that

[hallow geode]

Woah woah woah. What side of bed did you wake up on today?

[cold panther]

I hated that on bf 4

[strong gorge]

said nobody ever

[ivory haven]

Naval combat is fun on BF1.
Torpedos everywhere

[mint fern]

Gonna be totally honest. IM HOPING we get maps that are on the level of bf1's immersion and looks, some having thick fog making line of sight harder, and some that take place in the nighttime stuff like that

[hallow geode]

Life ain't really like a box of chocolates... There I said it! 😤

[ivory haven]

Upgraded rain physics please

[abstract walrus]

dang man I didn't think anyone would come right out and say it... bold move

[ivory haven]

Life isn’t a box of chocolates. Look at certain cities lol

[low spade]

bro what are you talking about lmfao

[mint fern]

So real! Id love to see some combat during a harsh rainstorm

[lucid plinth]

i pre-ordered Battlefield 6 Phantom Edition 😉

[ivory haven]

Or sand storm. Either way the atmosphere of a battlefield can change the match easily

[rose inlet]

I preorderd BO7

[low spade]

Based, I need to buy a copy for my wife and I still, and I'm really debating on the phantom edition

[strong gorge]

If on steam, good for you.
if on ea, you are a risky fella

[mint fern]

People forget sometimes that game mechanics alone dont alter the game, the settings and environment do, looking at bf1 alone the astrosphere is just so perfect that it makes you completely immersed in the combat

[hallow geode]

just adding the ability to make it rain on all the maps in portal would add so much variety

[strong gorge]

Who doesnt know, on steam pre order counts as a day 1 purchase. still having same refund policies as normal purchase

[hallow geode]

and some wind and snow

[mint fern]

And a mix of fog too

[hallow geode]

I think they wanted to prioritize performance for launch but I could see them adding stuff like this later

[abstract walrus]

Fog of war, so we don't know where the flags are until we explore the map some.. different every time

[ivory haven]

Possibly yeah. A portal update

[mint fern]

I just want intense rain that makes combat much more close quarters and it also makes thermals more useful

[deep glade]

Bad for optimisation

[quiet nacelle]

🚨 🚨 Battlefield 6 is now owned by Jared Kushner and Saudi Arabia 🚨 🚨

[red kiln]

Battlefield comander mode pls

[hallow geode]

Nah I don't see it not getting added. If the game looked as good as BF1 then sure I could understand them never adding rain but they have a good foundation where the graphical fidelity isn't too intense that it should allow for it in a future update

[deep glade]

Woke up like this

[hallow geode]

BF1 looked as good as it did and had rain and launched better than any other BF game in history

[red kiln]

Just add mandatory Path traced pudles soo this can be a premium Game for premium gamers like borderlands ceo wants

[red kiln]

Ea*

[deep glade]

You know, why don’t the new Saudi owners give us all a new PC with the oil money

Do that and I will buy phantom edition.

[livid tapir]

$55 billion EA buyout hands Madden over to investors including Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner

https://flip.it/nDNX6j

[civic herald]

Hack link??

[steel sundial]

kids today dont even know who madden was

[deep glade]

Sussy link

[livid tapir]

It's a good link from floorboard

[quiet nacelle]

Old news bro

[low spade]

Big doubt lmfao. They're not into pushing their religions on their investments. They just want to make money

[deep glade]

Not clicking

[white sand]

''The transaction was approved by EA’s Board of Directors, is expected to close in Q1 FY27''

[livid tapir]

Flipboard*

[deep glade]

That’s April next year

[white sand]

so we'll have to wait 2 years to see the actual effects of this acquisition

[civic herald]

They bought Fnatic and other pro gaming group and they cant be openly pro lgbt

[white sand]

or actually 1 and a few months

[deep glade]

April next year

[steel sundial]

this is 25, 27 is in 2 years

[deep glade]

Now I don’t know if it’s troll or not, but financial years is not the same as calendar years

But FY27 Q1 is April 2026

[white sand]

''constituting an equity investment of approximately $36 billion, and $20 billion of debt financing fully and solely committed by JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A.''

does this mean EA only has 20B to repay or am I getting it wrong?

[deep glade]

The investors are taking on 20B debt

From loans

[white sand]

so that means EA is not in a debt of 55B right?

[civic herald]

Also saudi arabia has bought boxing, ufc, golf, wwe, football, ea

[deep glade]

No, EA is not losing anything

[low spade]

When did this buyout happen? because they still have their pride month supporting posts up on X

[deep glade]

The buyers will get a debt of 20B after the purchase tho

[steel sundial]

this morning

[white sand]

I was wondering cause this is a leveraged buyout no?

[abstract walrus]

misleading. The deal isn't closed until fy27

[livid tapir]

Electronic Arts has announced it is being acquired and taken private in a $55 billion deal involving Silver Lake, Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, and Affinity Partners, which is founded and led by Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
The deal is expected to close in the first fiscal quarter of 2027 and is still subject tO pproval by regulators and EA stockholders. If approved, it will mark one of the biggest buyouts of a publicly traded company.

[deep glade]

Well the debt is not fully disclosed, perhaps loans

[white sand]

ah well, who cares. The deal will be closed in FY2027 anyway

[deep glade]

STOP BAITING ME

[steel sundial]

it was announced this morning, by EA CEO

[white sand]

no Im just saying 😭

[white moss]

He's a master at it

[grizzled topaz]

well shit, should've waited on that pre order

[civic herald]

EWC partnership 1 yr ago

[white sand]

deal isnt closed till 2027

[grizzled topaz]

oh goodie

[steel sundial]

you gonna step in with counteroffer? 60b ?

[white sand]

yep

[low spade]

Yeah, they still posted their pride month stuff last june

[stable rapids]

wait can you upgrade to phantom edition after you buy the base game?

[white sand]

I wouldnt be surprised if Microsoft offered 60 tbf

[broken cedar]

Microsoft doesn't care about gaming they are all-in on AI

[low spade]

Microsoft is probably recovering from buying activision blizzard

[white moss]

They still are.

[white sand]

defo

[low spade]

Outright not true lol.

[mint fern]

Wait so whats gonna happen if this goes through exactly?

[vestal canopy]

supporting a country?

[frozen thorn]

Your loss lol

[vestal canopy]

isn't bf6 made by like several countries

[broken cedar]

No they literally laid people off from Xbox to invest more in AI, they said it in a recent investor call

[white sand]

good things (hopefully)
this doesnt look like any other leveraged buyout by the looks of it cause the investors are taking 20B dollars in loans so EA doesnt have to repay the whole 55B

[low spade]

That's fine, but they literally just bought a massive gaming company lol

[tight prism]

Yep. If the secure boot/kernel level spyware (that will soon be owned by private companies including the Saudi govt) wasn't enough to make you swear off EA and their games then this buyout should be. They're officially dead to me across the board. Not just the games requiring the BS mentioned above.

[white sand]

but Im no economy expert so I'm probably getting it wrong

[white sand]

the deal wont be concluded till 2027 bud

[mint fern]

But will they enforce certain negative policies on people who work for ea? Like does this effect the workers devs and so on?

[tight prism]

That makes no difference

[red kiln]

Kernel level anticheats arent bad bro

[white sand]

we dont know at the moment

[tight prism]

Lol. Right.

[white sand]

It might actually make EA better

after reading the article I'm pretty optimistic

[broken cedar]

I don't like them because they are a huge risk if they mess up

[red kiln]

Just as they did with man city

[steel sundial]

i fkin hate cheaters, more anticheat the better

[livid tapir]

All I know is anytime private equity is involved in anything it's not good

[mint fern]

Hoping not myself

[low spade]

These guys that are so against kernal level anticheats are so funny because they sell their data to literally every other company and act like BF6 is going to use your computer to hack and steal your 20$ in your klarna account

[red kiln]

They will try their best to not mest up bcs the lawsuit would be crazy otherwise

[tight prism]

Bike what are you talking about? Even if it did somehow make them better we should abstain on moral objections alone.

[civic herald]

"LBOs often involve trimming staff, selling off non-core divisions, or outsourcing to generate cash to repay the acquisition debt. With heavy debt payments, EA would likely prioritize blockbuster franchises and monetization models (microtransactions, live services) over experimental or risky projects. Studios under EA (like BioWare or DICE) could be spun off or sold to raise cash."

[white sand]

honestly I was more worried about the 55B debt that EA was gonna be in if this went through, but by the looks of it EA is not going to have to repay the whole price

[stable rapids]

anyone know if there might be an upgrade from base game to phantom edition?

[broken cedar]

No I just work software dev and don't trust devs because I don't trust myself lol

[tight prism]

Bike is downplaying this to the max.

[white sand]

this is no regular LBO

[tight prism]

Doesn't matter when the deal closes. Send the message now.

[white sand]

Im not

[red kiln]

If anything dice getting selled its better for us

[low spade]

Are you a bad person or something lmfao

[white sand]

no Im still gonna play

[broken cedar]

No I just have been a silly little guy pushing breaking changes to prod on fridays before

[low spade]

LOL

[molten gyro]

April-June 2026 ish

[civic herald]

Isnt LBO just mean buying an entity with leverage (money borrowed from bank) and a small percentage if your own firm's money

[low spade]

My friend's company did the same thing recently, went not so great lol

[white sand]

For Electronic Arts (EA), FY2027 begins on January 1, 2027, and concludes on March 31, 2027

[tight prism]

This does not matter.

[low spade]

Why are we arguing about dates rn. Every article I've read specifically states 2027 by long-form numerb. Who cares about the date

[tight prism]

You protest before the change, not after.

[molten gyro]

dunno about that

[broken cedar]

And like CrowdStrike brought down millions of windows PCs. If an EA dev accidentally pushes a breaking change to their kernel anti-cheat it can brick your system in a similar way. I don't think they will, but it's a risk with kernel anti-cheat as it has direct access to the system kernel

[civic herald]

"The new owners would likely install directors aligned with their strategic or cultural goals, although day-to-day management might stay in place initially. EA would take on significant new debt. This could reduce flexibility for game development budgets, R&D, or acquisitions."

[broken cedar]

What are you quoting from?

[civic herald]

Um chatgpt

[low spade]

And thus I'm not worried about it. If it happens, it happens and millions of people are affected and lawsuits and more will happen.

[broken cedar]

Ah yes, glorified autocomplete, good job