battlefield-6

[hearty kelp]

if it weren't for the fact the gunplay was solid for the most part, and gadgets were pretty awesome, i'd have left a long time ago

[worn marten]

Aim is the counter skill

And aim is something I like being tested

Bf has always had the perfect balance of aim checks and casual experiences

[wintry sparrow]

Just updated my BF Discord Avatar. 🙂 I'm ready for BF6. Roll on the 10th October.

[lapis blaze]

Let's go but I want one for myself too

🫡

[dim shoal]

[quartz fossil]

Well yeah I said bugs should be fixed

If there ever is a wozo or a zozo or whatever in BF6 that shit needs to be patched asap

I still had the most fun playing bf4 than any other battlefield game, never using those types of movement bugs even when playing in sweaty community server where people would use them lol. Bf4 is just that good of a game.

[hearty kelp]

100 times out of 100 i would prefer BC2's movement over anything remotely resembling "omni-movement"

[quartz fossil]

I can't play older battlefield games for long, or BF1, just cause bf4 is such a gem

[hearty kelp]

i cannot get behind bf1's gunplay

[quartz fossil]

Not just movement just everything

[worn marten]

I’d go for 2042’s bhops as the primary movement if I could choose. It was the perfect balance of everything people could want

[quartz fossil]

Bf1 has no movement and slow TTK which means it's impossible basically to outplay multiple enemies at once.

It becomes boring and purely positional gameplay.

[quartz fossil]

Didn't 2042 just have the running jump bhopping thing

[hearty kelp]

yeah you still see pp29 sweats abusing that today

[worn marten]

Yeah, slide accel into bhop. I liked that

[quartz fossil]

Idk I don't want that shit in Battlefield games just have a normal slide or jump shotting with some aiming penalty

[hearty kelp]

an actual penalty was 4's problem, it had none

[quartz fossil]

You couldn't shoot while jumping

[worn marten]

Well 2042’s had benefits and tradeoffs, which makes it fair to me

[quartz fossil]

That's the penalty. If it had a slide it would probably behave the same.

I honestly want that for BF6. Buff movement but make it impossible to shoot whilst jumping or sliding.

Jump strafing being a thing without the ability to shoot at the same time seems balanced to me

[worn marten]

If they allowed for bhopping and gave slide an accel boost but removed shooting in the air I’d probably be happy

[lapis blaze]

What about color correction and filtering? BF6Because the discussion on Reddit end up in dead end. And we didn't know if they worked on it or they just ignored it.

[worn marten]

Creates distance that the enemy needs to correct to, but gives them some time to do so, which the peeker can still benefit from without it being pointless

[hearty kelp]

what business does any sort of bunnyhop have being in battlefield

[quartz fossil]

It's okay for games to experiment and have weird shit like the bhopping combo in 2042 but it shouldn't be adopted going forward lol. Just maintain it as a legacy thing in the original game for people who like it.

[hearty kelp]

that shit came from source games and should stay there

[quartz fossil]

Modern source games don't have it even

[hearty kelp]

what are we calling modern

[trail terrace]

has there been any indication as to whether or not the vehicles are gonna get thermal optics?

[quartz fossil]

CS2 doesn't have bhopping, you can enable it in custom game modes but no in the main game.

Modern source as in Source 2

[worn marten]

thing is, since bf4 was my first, that is my standard for what bf should do. Even without exploits I've just lived with and enjoyed dealing with it's movement system. I see 2042 as a weaker version of it, v weaker still, then 6, then 1

[hearty kelp]

cs2 is not only source 2 but is the only one of its kind

gmod and any sort of source dm game has it

[quartz fossil]

Tools are becoming available for developers so hopefully we'll see more

Gmod 2 out in the next 10 years hopefully.

[quartz fossil]

I too wish BF6 took more inspiration from BF4 than BF2 or BF3.

To me bf4 is just a superior game

[worn marten]

all in all I just want enough movement for it to not feel like i'm playing GRAW 2 when peeking, and to have some more reactionary gameplay in fights

[quartz fossil]

Hopefully them fixing the max sway penalty should make jump shotting more viable

I still think Hipfire is overpowered but whatever lol bandait fix for jump shotting feeling shit

[worn marten]

I do find it strange though when some people say they want bfv's slide back and say 6's is abhorrent, despite v's doing more of what they dislike in terms of movement potential

oh well, that's how it goes

[quartz fossil]

Remove prone from the video game

Many aren't based enough to appreciate this stance.

[worn marten]

either way I'm keen to see how 6's mechanics end up come launch. Will be waiting to watch some gameplay before purchasing of course, cause lots can change

[quartz fossil]

Already preordered even if they completely remove movement from the game it'll be better than BF1 and I still had fun with bf1

[whole forge]

Just remove infantry gameplay and make the game Commander Mode only. 64 Commanders on 1 match

[quartz fossil]

Take your Ws when you can

[quartz fossil]

Holy based @knotty grotto

[worn marten]

given how few shooters I play now, I will happily take even a half W

[quartz fossil]

I count third person shooters as shooty games too tbh they still require aiming

But yeah not many first person shooters with longevity nowadays

[whole forge]

I also do but I don’t play TPS Shooters unless they are Looter Shooter games like The Division or Destiny

[quartz fossil]

Arc Raiders seems goated

[worn marten]

if you like extraction

[whole forge]

The game looks good but it being Third Person Extraction Shooter turned me off

[quartz fossil]

I don't really lol but arc Raiders is a lot more than your average extraction shooter

[whole forge]

I like my PvP/Extraction shooters on first person perspective

[quartz fossil]

It does make them more hardcore

More competitive

[worn marten]

an extraction shooter with robots

if I want to play a pvp game i'd rather just be fighting the people in it

[quartz fossil]

The robots are pve but there are players too

[whole forge]

The reason why I don’t like Third Person on PvP games is because you can use the Third Person perspective to get the info you couldn’t on First Person perspective

Like imagine you think you are safe but a guy is completely seeing you while hiding on a corner that you cannot see

[quartz fossil]

Eh I recently watched Kelski review of arc Raiders and he addresses this. It's not invalid take but it takes a different kind of skill in 3rd person games than 1st person.

Tldr you have to reposition and can't just ego push.

[whole forge]

It gives an “advantage”(I know its not a really big one but still) over other players

[quartz fossil]

It requires a different skill than in 1st person games

[whole forge]

Yea

[worn marten]

a skill that I just can't enjoy

[quartz fossil]

It's okay to dislike that fundamentally

[whole forge]

Atleast I know what I dislike instead of going “game bad it will die”

[quartz fossil]

So the BF6 BR looks actually good that's nice

[worn marten]

third person stealth games make use of the perspective in it's balance, but I can't help but feel like pvp shooters that use it just strip away elements rather than replace it

I haven't yet found a situation or game where I feel the perspective doesn't do that

[whole forge]

We are not allowed to talk about Labs content

[quartz fossil]

The BF6 BR looks theoretically nice

[scenic tundra]

i once got invited to the closed labs test, but cant find the email. i only saw the email when it was too late. how tf do i get in? im confused.

[quartz fossil]

I meant just in terms of what it's going to be like free to play and not tied to a shitty Battlefield game

[worn marten]

So that bf6 br labs devlog looks actually good that's nice

[whole forge]

Yea

[worn marten]

where did they say that?

[quartz fossil]

Isn't it pretty much confirmed

[whole forge]

Honestly, Firestorm on V could have been WAY better if it was actually F2P

[worn marten]

you tell me

did sirland confirm it?

[quartz fossil]

I don't think they have but if it's not free to play then it's dead on arrival

[whole forge]

Its not officially confirmed but its been leaked since the beginning of Labs

[quartz fossil]

All the competition BR is free to play

It'd be extremely idiotic to require a full purchase of the base game

They made that mistake twice

[merry dove]

cod4 remake flashbacks...

[whole forge]

It would be a stupid move to make the same mistake they did on Firestorm

[worn marten]

it was a stupid move to try br again yet here we are

who knows

[whole forge]

COD4R was a Panic button move from Activision

[worn marten]

but knowing them, it could easily be info they withhold until they want to make a big flashy announcement about it

[quartz fossil]

No. BR in battlefield would probably work well and it has never actually been tried.

2 previous iterations were not free to play and tied to the 2 worst Battlefield games ever fucking made. It's completely unfair to claim the BR failed.

[whole forge]

As long as its good and doesnt take away from the main resources(which it doesnt we know that) I dont really care about BF having another attempt on BR

[velvet kayak]

BFV was a great game

[knotty grotto]

I want 256 player conquest and rush🗣️

[quartz fossil]

I would play Warzone but COD is dogshit pay2win and BF's BR looks similar but better in every way

[velvet kayak]

God no

[worn marten]

well it's existence means that resources are being diverted, as ripple could be working on the base game just as much

[whole forge]

BFV Firestorm was great, but it had the same problems as BO4 Blackout. BF2042 Hazard Zone was completely done wrong

[knotty grotto]

256 on locker/metro

[quartz fossil]

128 Locker 4000 tickets see you there

[knotty grotto]

[harsh solstice]

i joined a game and my team won 5 seconds later, guess im just that good

[whole forge]

They did say back on Labs announcement Ripple Effect is only working on their part which they kept it hidden while talked about what DICE, MOTIVE and Critereon did

[knotty grotto]

can you survive more than 10 seconds after spawning in 256 locker/metro?

[quartz fossil]

When I join late we always lose

[whole forge]

Unless you camp at HQ, No

[worn marten]

but in truth I don't care about br, never have, and won't ever play it, so if it works then that's great, otherwise I just hope they don't take more from the base game dev team to work on it

[quartz fossil]

It's meant to attract new players to Battlefield it's not made for existing playerbase

[merry dove]

isnt it literally an entirely different studio they outsourced the BR to?

[quartz fossil]

Not outsourced they are owned by EA

They're all EA studios

[whole forge]

No its not outsourced

[merry dove]

okay but the studio working on the BR is seperate from the core game no?

[whole forge]

Ripple Effect is a part of Battlefield Studios and owned by EA

[quartz fossil]

3 different studios working on single player, MP and BR. Pretty good plan not to interfere with each other much.

[harsh solstice]

if they balance the movement and other mechanics around BR then i will commit sudoku

[whole forge]

They just happen to be only working on the BR for BF6

[quartz fossil]

Nah they should have completely separate balancing

[whole forge]

Nah, mechanics are balanced for the main MP

[knotty grotto]

Pls seperate files

[quartz fossil]

They confirmed it

[knotty grotto]

Dont want 200gb again💀

[harsh solstice]

so different movement in br and regular mp?

[whole forge]

A content creator did show a modular download UI inbuilt to the game

[quartz fossil]

No not movement but gun balancing maybe

[worn marten]

no idea, that was just a hope

[knotty grotto]

[worn marten]

but it would make sense to at least do cstom weapon balancing

[quartz fossil]

Gonna uninstall single player after beating it and keep BR and MP assuming BR isn't poopy

There are multiple armor plates and shit in BR that don't exist in MP

[whole forge]

Same

[whole forge]

The Open Beta had UI Customize options for the Armor Plates but it did nothing

[quartz fossil]

That's just how BRs work usually

[knotty grotto]

Cant wait for the ‘top 100 streamer br moments must watch #br #newbf’ videos to get spammed on yt

[quartz fossil]

Yeah just a setting for BR

I just Endered all over my screen...

[whole forge]

The tank shell does not discriminate

[worn marten]

Can't wait for the gameSprout compilations to return

[knotty grotto]

It will kill everyone equally fosho

[knotty grotto]

Stonemountain64 yolo on the bf needs to return for this

It was hilarious on 3

[quartz fossil]

People need to stop posting thumbnails with guns man get creative

Holding the gun whilst looking at the sun gets boring the 100th time you see it

[worn marten]

if I do vids I'll just do nice screenshots of the environment with no gun

[knotty grotto]

Thumbnails are ez nowadays: settings>turn everything off>ss> turn everything back on

[quartz fossil]

Cough Gravity

[whole forge]

One thing I hope the BR changes is the ability to choose which mission you wanna do instead of it being forced to you AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND ACCORDING TO THE BLOG POST

[knotty grotto]

What? U dont want to eliminate 100 players while doing a headtrick and playing a guitar for 1 minute after getting the kill?

[worn marten]

can't wait for the 'get 50 kills while jump shotting'

[whole forge]

What I mean is the ability to choose between Contract A and B instead of forcing me to do Contract A only

That’s how I understood how the missions will work on the blog post

[knotty grotto]

Your reward

[whole forge]

I could be wrong and I hope I am wrong

[olive basalt]

REAL

(Though I'd prefer those to soulless Gen. AI thumbnails)

[quartz fossil]

REAL

AI use in moderation is fine but some people really overdo it and all of it ends up looking identical

[candid tundra]

I love this sticker. That remind me some vtuber...

[worn marten]

every vtuber ever with pink hair and cat ears

[knotty grotto]

Is that burnice???

[eager pollen]

what’s the release time frame I just saw some sponsored post on instagram talking about “early access september 25”

[gritty garnet]

Thats not real

The release is October 10th and there is no mention of early access

[candid tundra]

Minato Aqua

Well I want to try Portal setup before game is released on 10th October...

[timid elbow]

bf6

[eternal crater]

[acoustic canopy]

i hope we will get a preload of bf6

[eternal crater]

So you can download it before it launches?

[acoustic canopy]

yes

i hope dice will do it

[eternal crater]

Would be great because my downloadspeed is... Yeah... Kinda slow

[eternal crater]

Would be great

[cloud venture]

Normaly you can perload 2-3 days before relase day so probs around 7th or 8th of october i would say we can preload

[acoustic canopy]

yea it wouled be cool

[eternal crater]

Nice

I hope the campaign will be cool too. Because Battlefield campaigns are very nice

[worn yew]

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[acoustic canopy]

yes but i hope we dont get pay to win or stupid pink skins like in cod

[eternal crater]

i heard something about that they wont put in skins like COD for the "beginning". LEt's hope it will stay like this

I dont want stupid skins like cod

[acoustic canopy]

hope that too

[cloud venture]

Yeah the last campaign i liked was BF4 but BF1 and BFV werent bad just felt more of a multiplayer tutorial

[eternal crater]

same

[lean imp]

I still don’t like the phantom edition skins changes but I’m still looking forward to the skins

[eternal crater]

I hope there will be some good destruction like Battlefield 4 too. Because the skyscraper destruction like battlefield 4 was soooo nice tbh.

[lean imp]

They call it tactical destruction and they added some scripted stuff but not major

No Levolution iirc

[eternal crater]

Oh, yeah... The pre order skins from the phantom edition already are a little bit too much in my opinion

[lean imp]

I’m fine with the previous gear, just don’t like the red and black color scheme

[eternal crater]

But i dont want to sound like i hate every skin beside military skins. They surely can add some skins but i just dont want stupid skins like COD

[lean imp]

We are getting some bandana skins and some skins that look like paintball gear

[brazen gale]

Do they have any intentions on fixing the destruction? Not sure why a sledge hammer can knock down a building and a frag grenade destroys a city

[frigid crater]

the paintball 'gear' is actually ballistic masks

they are based off i think the british commandos on sweden iirc, the ballistic masks are just a custom thing tbh

the bandana skins seems like PMC's or military dudes wearing stuff they have on them

[faint lintel]

That’s what I was thinking

[eager sinew]

Hi guys

Its just me or afk xp is now too damm slow?

[spare socket]

The further you go in the pass the longer it takes to earn a pip via xp

Missions give a fixed pip rate for progression and are the overall best way to progress the pass (especially in later tiers)

[eager sinew]

Ty bro, im stuck in tier 47

[spare socket]

(The pips are those dots of progression per tier)

[spare socket]

You don’t need to really play anymore tbh. If you do next week’s missions and the week after you’re done

I would just wait for the mission’s to refresh unless you do enjoy playing the game

to be done with XP at each week:
W4: 40.8
W5: 47.2
W6: 53.6

(Assumes you no longer gain xp and only progress via missions)

[sand spear]

With this work at level 43 I missed some weeks of missions

[willow lance]

Nah

I don’t think they will because destrucion is made with BR in mind

[opaque atlas]

Thats kinda dope its hilarious but dope

How is the game i see gameplay everywhere but cant afford to buy the game

[versed rock]

Hi everyone

Has anyone heard of the ‘persistent’ game mode, a lot of the community liked.

[minor linden]

So I'm hearing there was backlash over the words of a certain unnamed gamedev. I can understand that mob mentality can be tough to manage but why are the developers activly deleteing post on the steam community page for talking about it? I'm seeing posts where no names or call to actions are being made, they just simply say that they "refunded their preorder" and getting their threads deleted and even in some cases their accounts banned. Not feeling this is in very good taste.

[sour copper]

Progressives run this discord you're gonba get banned.

[versed rock]

Tuff question : why do a lot of ‘battlefield’ vets enjoy milsim alternatives. For example,

Squad
Arma
He’ll let loose

Also, could that also tell us what a ‘battlefield’ game could ‘ also’ be.

[sour copper]

People who like fps games typically like most fps games 😛 Besides, competition keeps the industry healthy.

[minor linden]

@sour copper then its just proving everyone's points then now isn't it, I actually liked the game during beta testing. i NEVER buy full retail games i was considering purchasing at the full 70$ which is steep, ban me for saying nearly nothing and I wont even play their f2p battle royal.

[versed flame]

hello

[molten halo]

You can thrust vector in bf6 jets

Which means you have more control than ever and do some top gear/ ace combat shenanigans

Meaning jets are scarier that ever for everyone else

[sour copper]

Assuming they play the game and don't just do barrell rolls until they're shot down haha

[acoustic plume]

no no no💔

[molten halo]

im ok with a vietnam skin if it's authentic

[neon gyro]

Battlefield is like a stepping stone for cod players to get a taste of something better then those people want more and get into more mil sim and fall back to battlefield for more casual gaming

[molten halo]

anyhow, i just found out the stealth attack helis from 2042 are real and being made by sikorsky

[willow jewel]

I am about to drop unemployed hours into bf6 when it drops

[molten halo]

half the conversations here end up being like "bef6 is so cod cool guys cod i hope it goes well at cod launch"

[versed rock]

Thanks for the message, That’s true, but still doesn’t answer the question. “Next please” <with all due respect.

[sour copper]

I've been the main character of every game I've ever played. You can't "next please" the main character. parody

[versed rock]

I like your point, please develop on my dilemma, based off your assessment. “could a BFBC3+ squad based ‘spin off” work.

Or even, BFBC3+ Squad based game ‘suit’ a good ‘theme’ to a milsim battlefield alternative.

Baring in mind, squad was touted as the true BF2 ‘spiritual’ successor. That says a lot, especially coming from a lot of ‘core’ battlefield type of players.

[cunning wedge]

Boneless gaming

[versed rock]

I like that good comeback.

[fathom summit]

Maybe because a lot of them are older and moved to those games awhile back?

[versed rock]

I like that, no one can argue against the point though, for once 🤣 That shows a good sign and what ‘another’ expression of what a battlefield game could also be.

[gilded mason]

anddd my comment was deleted - good show

[fathom summit]

Stop posting political shit in the game discussion then

[gilded mason]

supported the franchise for 20+ years man

[versed rock]

Good observation, that’s very plausible. Although, could show what a battlefield game ‘could be’ which is my main point.

[fathom summit]

Could be but then it would be a different type of BF game we have come use to

[opaque cypress]

Is it October 10th yet

[versed rock]

Yeah, that’s why I am also saying to the same effect. ‘A yearly battlefield’ could work. Alternating between the ‘main instalment’ but, not a every ‘other’ year battlefield. But, an additional battlefield in one year. < two battlefields for 4 years until the next one.

[sour copper]

I don't understand the obsession with remaking the entire game every year. Why not just sell map packs? I don't get why they need to remake EVERYTHING.

We''ll be fine if the grass physics stays the same for 5 years lol

[versed rock]

Would prefer this much better. Imagine a ‘legacy’ bundle. So, BF6 gets a bundle of 3 new maps from every battlefield from BF2 (BFMC2) included to BF6 every quarter year.

[fathom summit]

They want what COD has

yearly games and a BR that gets updated along with them

[sour copper]

I mean, I get it, but it seems kind of short sighted. Knock down the competition with better value then upscale monetization when you have a monopoly on the genre.

They're just skipping to step 2 without step 1 lol

[reef mist]

Cod will probably start busting out remastered golden age cods

[rose inlet]

19 days to go

[versed rock]

I agree with Chris, if they can ‘reimagine’ <key word or ‘remaster’ three maps from every game, even 2142 ‘but what it would look almost 100 years in the past. That’s would be a great challenge for the studios. A complete ‘legacy’ bundle pack including ‘All Battlefields’ but, ‘reimagined’ so, doesn’t have to be ‘same era’ could be in the same game setting year as BF6 ‘2027’

[opaque cypress]

If you’re making yearly releases then the least you can do is make each a slightly different experience

[fathom summit]

Yeah trying to beat COD at its own game will not work

[rose inlet]

This is exactly what I think when people by EA FC every year

Its legit the same copy n paste shi every year

[fathom summit]

I'm just going to enjoy BF for as long as I can until they turn it into a yearly cash grab if they even do that is

[molten halo]

man i want to play battlefield and not have to wait 18 days but at the same time bf2042 is so toxic

apparently, if you fly the mi240 faster than 60 mph people start to panic

[opaque cypress]

I still have 20 levels to finish that free battle pass

[molten halo]

i finished it like a week ago

[opaque cypress]

I haven’t been too diligent on it since sometimes it just feels like a chore

[molten halo]

i cant wait to fly the blackhawk so fast and agressively people think i'm about to crash without realizing that flying is just jumping and missing the ground on the way back down

i have airmen and seamen in my blood

[versed rock]

Please read this re-edit debate : https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/uVFd1oUsxy

how a yearly ‘battlefield’ could work.

[molten halo]

to be fair, i actually have a lineage completely covered in seamen. my grandpa fought the japanese on a ship and my great uncle was on a pt boat in vietnam

[south prairie]

why does every team in BF6 have the same exact tanks?
Why not add Leopards, Charioteers, T-90s, Type99, K2's.

[crimson gate]

Terrible

[sour copper]

lol shhhhhh you're not allowed to notice

[south prairie]

is this a reference to something I know or dont know

[sour copper]

no I'm just being silly sry

[south prairie]

They need to definetly add more modern tanks. Not every modern battlefield game can just be an Abrams tank constantly

[sour copper]

The tanks will have skins when the game releases won't they?

[south prairie]

and it would help to know which vehicles and tanks are on which team just from how they look. where some tanks can be used for different roles

[south prairie]

skins only change the color, not the 3d model or performance

[sour copper]

True that.

[frozen thorn]

There it is

[south prairie]

bobos binted?

[candid tundra]

Boat goes binted

[tardy estuary]

Do you know if Battlefield 6 campaign will be released earlier or on October 10th?

[frozen thorn]

Nope, i do not know

[mortal cliff]

Gold morning

[reef mist]

Battlefield

[vague escarp]

Good evening-do you know yet if FPV kamikaze drones make it into Battlefield six, especially for Battle Royale? They're nowhere on the gadget list for the other modes.

[dark owl]

be careful you'll start another fight

[reef mist]

Wait what 😂 I would neva

[white moss]

Only way I can see it working is if the game is simply called Battlefield and releases during next gen. We stop getting new games and the current one just keeps getting update with new modes and maps and such.

A call of duty style yearly release would bomb.

[twilit spade]

18 MORE DAYS

[sudden prism]

18 more days for black ops 7

[rocky granite]

No to bf yearly releases

Quantity reduces quality

[white moss]

Yearly battlefield would be so awful

[flint vapor]

Bi-yearly release could work, wouldn’t mind having this followed with a Bad Company 3 in two years - Still cheerleaders to be saved

[frozen thorn]

A 2-3 year official life cycle with constant updates and map additions would be great, and by maps and seasons I mean more than the 1 map 2042 would get every now and then. If they continue with more community additions like in BF4 they can make it the next BF4 where even a decent handful of people are playing it a decade later. Also, yearly makes it so that there arent that many jumps in advancement. The OG Modern Warfare up to Black Ops 2 had decent jumps between those 2 games, but at least every other title had similar mechanics with just a fresh coat of paint and minor tweaks(nothing new I know). If EA wants their 100 million player base this is how they can do it

[frozen thorn]

Never played the BC games, but yeah hope to see BC3 some time in the future.

[white moss]

BC is what introduced us to destruction. First time experiencing that was magical.

My dream is BC3 from old devs through use of a contract.

[sour copper]

I remember seeing the "shoot through walls" tech for the first time and thinking it was magic lol

I was quite young 😛

[white moss]

I was 19

[spare socket]

They can tone down the destruction value of some things

[whole forge]

No idea. Assume it comes out when the game is released until DICE or EA states otherwise

[spare socket]

But they can’t alter model changing or chain destruction as core systems

[whole forge]

Well, you can put C4 on the Recon drone. As far for launch of the game that’s the closest we have

[spare socket]

Bad company 2 was a once in a lifetime thing it’s not gonna happen to that degree again imo

[whole forge]

Maybe on Season 1 or beyond they can add the UCAV but again we dont know yet

[spare socket]

The production team behind that game had developers from infinity ward and dice

Mostly dice but due to a certain hiccup from Activision a lot of Infinity ward devs took a second job at Dice working on Bad company 2

It legit had some of the best industry veterans from 2 studios

[tight needle]

Have ya'll started fighting yet?

[spare socket]

Most of dice’s veteran staff left after battlefield 5 anyways.

[whole forge]

No, its calm for now. I assume Reddit is as always, horrible

[tight needle]

The subreddit seems chill imo

I see a lot of people sayin "good shot" on clips

[spare socket]

Why?

[whole forge]

This chat usually descends to madness from time to time

[spare socket]

Ah

[tight needle]

"From time to time"

Nah, it happens a lot more than that XD

Also, welcome Babu

[whole forge]

Yea, daily arguments and ragebaits are plentiful

[spare socket]

You can also put m2 slams I would assume. If not that’s kinda silly

[whole forge]

In theory you should be able to

[tight needle]

Had someone say "I'm a retired 25 year old."

Bro, jobless does not equal retired 🤣

[spare socket]

They can’t really alter chain destruction or model switching destruction but I do think they can reduce the destruction value on grenades and the hammer significantly

[whole forge]

Retired in 25….. dawg 💀

[tight needle]

Do you wanna see the screenshot?

[craggy tapir]

Retiring at 25 with a bank balance of $5 goes crazy

[spare socket]

Chain destruction in bf6 basically is a system that when you implement x destructive force to break something that force chains into Y objects

[tight needle]

Uh yes, 911

I'd like to report a murder

[whole forge]

They could change the value but I honestly don’t expect them to because it would make those utilities kinda useless

Like imagine a sledgehammer taking 5 hits to destroy a floor

[spare socket]

I think making the hammer swing take like 2-3 swings to break open something is fine considering it is a melee weapon every class can equip

If it was a gadget I would say it could remain as is. But it’s not

[tight needle]

Does the wedgehammer kill in 2 hits?

WEDGEHAMMER I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE LMFAO

[whole forge]

But also consider the following: funny

[whole forge]

[craggy tapir]

Could be neat if they made sledghammer support-only so all classes have destruction abilities

[spare socket]

That would be cool tbh

[tight needle]

[craggy tapir]

Unless I'm being dumb and forgot a support gadget that can destroy stuff

[spare socket]

Mortar if one wishes to troll

But it kinda sucks in this game

[tight needle]

Now, something funny to do with the hammer would be to let it damage vehicle part health XD

[whole forge]

The airburst grenade launcher, the mortars…

[spare socket]

It actually damages vehicles

[flint vapor]

Man, I remember going in to my local Gamestation to trade in some games for the 360, I was going to buy like 3-4 used games… The I saw the grenade with a smile and I used all my trade value for that one game, I was addicted to battlefield until the BF4 release which threw me of the franchise until BF1

[tight needle]

No fuckin way

[whole forge]

You know a game is good when the balance decisions no longer make sense

[craggy tapir]

Eh. Imo airburst shouldn't do a lot of environment damage. It's an anti-personnel launcher

[spare socket]

Not sure how much but a reveal short mentioned it damages vehicles

I think considering it’s a melee weapon I would get rid of the vehicle damage and make it cost 2-3 swings to break something.

Alternatively class lock the melee weapon to a particular class.

[whole forge]

Yeah it shouldn’t but I think it still has some destruction ability

[tight needle]

I can see the squads of people vehicle hunting with sledgehammers now

[craggy tapir]

Probably. They were slightly overzealous with the amount of destruction normal gadgets can do

[spare socket]

Unironically I feel like recon could use the hammer considering it’s the least played class

It doesn’t fit or make sense but that melee weapon is just so strong.

Either class lock it, make it a gadget, or nerf it

One of the three

Hell you could even nerf it by giving it limited uses

[spare socket]

But I would prefer just making it require more swings

[craggy tapir]

Recon does need something. Wasn't the spawn beacon removed without anything being added to the class?

[whole forge]

Yea, but personally Recon’s gadget lineup is already fine IMO

[tight needle]

I am not playing R6 siege warfare edition

[spare socket]

It’s a video game

I don’t remember a defib giving people life for being shot in the head or a blow torch fixing a tank on fire irl

But it’s a video game

[whole forge]

Sniper decoy’s, Laser designators, drones. C4’s, Claymores and Tracer Darts

[tight needle]

You know what.

You got me there

[spare socket]

Ngl them making it so gadgets don’t refresh anymore further makes me wanna main support @craggy tapir

[whole forge]

No the “R6 Siege Warfare” is referencing to how Ubisoft “balances” stuff by just nerfing and removing it from characters

[craggy tapir]

They should bring back the one bridge repair thing from 4

Some random building should be able to be magically repaired with a repair torch lol

[spare socket]

Unironically this but attach the effect to a gadget on engineer

Or melee weapon for engineer only

It would take like 3-5 swings to fix up tho I think that’s fair

[tight needle]

No, I was saying that Sledge's sledgehammer breaks in like 5-6 hits

I've used one, they do not break easily

[craggy tapir]

Give engineer brick and mortar so they can rebuild the map 🗣️

[spare socket]

I would unironically be cool with that

[tight needle]

Give us engineering vehicles too

[spare socket]

It could even give score if you repair structures near allies @craggy tapir

X amount of score per ally near the structure you repair.

[whole forge]

The EOD Bot

[tight needle]

Thats not an engineering vehicle tho.

I mean shite like the Centurion AVRE or the M287

[tight prism]

its a deployable enginner gadget

[craggy tapir]

Would be neat. I do feel like support's shield thing is only semi-realistic choice they had though

V's building system only really made sense for that time period

[tight needle]

Ik, but still

For more vehicles, add some funny ones like Engineering vehicles that use big boy BESH rounds

[spare socket]

If the team doesn’t want to reduce the destruction value on easy to access/small scale stuff like the hammer and grenade making the engineer capable of repair feels fine to me tbh

There would be a bar you’d have to finish to have the repair go through

So you kinda expose yourself making a loud noise for other people to come and kill you.

Stopping the repair would reset the bar obv.

[flint vapor]

Add the chally 2 - Would like to see someone slide in to my 120mm BESH

[tight needle]

The Centurion AVRE has a 203mm BESH round XD

[craggy tapir]

Fair. It'd def make it more interesting cause you could have people reinforcing chokepoints and capture points after they're leveled by a push

[frozen thorn]

No, but we can fix that

[tight needle]

"You see that building gunner?"

"Yes sir!"

"I don't wanna see it anymore."

[tight needle]

Uh everyone skull react this XD

[craggy tapir]

We need a deployable burger king so the game's realistic

[flint vapor]

Yeah, but the AVRE is to old, though is we do those rules, let’s just add the 4005 🌚 The prototype autoloading variant 😂😂😂

[tight needle]

Doom barn

[white moss]

I do like how bad company 2 became more serious. Third one should go straight up dark.

[frozen thorn]

blindfolds him

[tight needle]

You won, but uh...

Buildings still there

[frozen thorn]

Directions were followed to the tee. Closing contract.

[whole forge]

Im going to be so real, they wont ever attempt to make a Bad Company 3. Devs at DICE said back then sometime that they geniunely do not know how to re capture what made Bad Company 2 so good

[tight needle]

Well yes...

But actually no

[frozen thorn]

The number you have dialed is no longer in service. Goodbye

[white moss]

If I write the script for it and its awesome would they do it?

[frozen thorn]

What set it apart from the main modern games like 3 and 4? At first I thought the BC games were set in Vietnam

[white moss]

That was an expansion

[flint vapor]

It starts with a “clean house” type mission, after clearing the first house, Haggard just says f this and brings the next building down

[amber valve]

🚬

[craggy tapir]

Wonder what they're going to attempt after 6

Doubt it'd be modern, ww1, ww2, or futuristic. Maybe something like cold war or Vietnam could be cool

[hoary osprey]

Who do I gotta beg around here to playtest some? Cuz I'm down

[white moss]

Ya cold war would be solid.

[spare socket]

I really want a 2142 sequel so bad

[hoary osprey]

Same on 2142

[white moss]

2242

[craggy tapir]

Y'know, the nightvision mission teased in the trailer gives me hope that we'll get a "clean house" style mission in 6's campaign

[spare socket]

FYI I would only be down for this if:
A: Titan mode returns
B: the team actually innovates the sci fi genre with this

[hoary osprey]

2299...the future is on sale

[white moss]

Or what about Battlefield 40k?

[spare socket]

A major issue with COD is it literally does 0 innovation with the sci fi shooter genre

[craggy tapir]

That's just Titanfall

[spare socket]

It literally copy pastes what titanfall does but worse.

[flint vapor]

It was such a tease, hopefully they show more of that mission at the Tokyo Game Show

[frozen thorn]

Give it another 5 years and then hopefully they can do 2003 era War on Terror type setting

[whole forge]

I assume it would be the continuation of 6, as they said they wanna create a Battlefield Unlverse

[white moss]

Especially since nobody gonna be able to run squad now

[whole forge]

Most of what it set apart was its extremely increased destruction. Being for consoles first and its unique story

[wet shard]

What do you think about a stream well when the streamer is just showing a gameplay of smth that he's playing without mic or cam

[ripe thorn]

I need a good quiet stealthy mission in a battlefield campaign

[whole forge]

Why I think they wont do Future Battlefield for some time is that 2042 happened

[stable remnant]

bc2 had a vietnam dlc, it was badass

4 maps every dlc

[flint vapor]

Got to have the Night Shift 2.0

[craggy tapir]

Perhaps. Really depends on if the previous games are still in the timeline

If so, then an actual continuation of 4's campaign could be cool. Maybe with a war stories style to showcase how the war went instead of leaving us on the second part of a three part campaign. Though, I would prefer a more unique theme

[spare socket]

Destruction that threw map design out a window. You could level the entire map to the ground

It’s more chaotic but I prefer when it’s a lil more tuned down personally. I do actually like good maps

[white moss]

Someone told me 3, 4, V, Hardline (tv show), 6, 2042, and 2142 are all connected

[whole forge]

As far as we know its still in the line. The current timeline looks like BF3->BF4->BF6->BF2042->BF2142(the reason why 2042 and 2142 are connected is the Phantom Program PC’s heavily hinted at the events of 2142)

[frozen thorn]

Well destruction is already a mainstay in BF titles, I guess the tone of the main story. I get that BF wants to be semi-grounded in its tone and theme, but the main characters in BF3 and BF4 were so damn forgettable.

[spare socket]

No confirmation on 6 but the rest yeah

[stable remnant]

noone cares though

[whole forge]

Bad Company and Bad Company 2’s story was the best ones

[craggy tapir]

If 6 is in the old timeline, then yes. The president in 6's trailer looks a lot like an in-universe actor in Hardline so I'd lean more towards yes

[frozen thorn]

Hopefully BF6 will have a better story and better characters. If they can at least match BC games Ill be happy with it

[whole forge]

In technicality they are but we have no solid proof besides the BF3, 4 and 2042 connection

[frozen thorn]

Thanks for sharing your ancient knowledge Da Bumer

[frozen thorn]

In BF3 and BF1 you can play as characters name Blackburn

[whole forge]

Yea

[craggy tapir]

The characters should be interesting since they said that you aren't playing the same character in every mission

[whole forge]

Well actually every modern Battlefield is SOMEWHAT connected via the Phantom Program

[craggy tapir]

(You control the whole squad throughout the campaign)

[whole forge]

We will see more about the campaign on Tokyo Game Show

[stable remnant]

Getting invested in lore they havent planned always works out well

[frozen thorn]

Id be fine with being the grunt in each mission who gets their 15 minutes of fame while the side character(s) steal the show. Like a Hi-Fi Rush situation where youre the protagonist of the game, but a side character in the grand scheme of things

[frozen thorn]

That tank driver in BF3 is for sure a phantom now

[quartz fossil]

Schizo or is that actual lore

[white moss]

Ok how about Battlefield Army Men

You are being reinforced by a dog behemoth

[frozen thorn]

Flag Charlie and been urinated on

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. Honestly, I preferred the war stories style over a steady campaign. It showcased how one person can't change the tides of war

Fits battlefield better than the typical campaign style

[flint vapor]

Apples objective has been moved slightly to the left by the Cat Behemoth Sgt

[whole forge]

No its actually real. BF4, 1, V and 2042 have all Phantom Program Easter eggs, BF3 and 4 are hard connected. The only game that stays in the air about this is Hardline as its campaign is a Tv Show and MP is Cops vs Robbers

[frozen thorn]

Would be cool to see war stories but with some main character in the background. In the end the structure of how they do it is whatever, just make it damn interesting

Then again the dude who lead the first Monder Warfare and Titanfall is behind the reins so I have good confidence in that

[craggy tapir]

6 could connect Hardline's campaign if the theory about the president being an actor in it is true

[stable remnant]

😴

[craggy tapir]

Seems to be the same voice actor but it could be unrelated

[faint lintel]

18 days 16 hours 8 minutes and 40 second until bf6

[whole forge]

Yea, it can but I dont expect it

Hardline’s story is best where its at IMO. Its a Crime Drama TV show

[white moss]

We are so back

[sharp breach]

Ya están jugando el batle Royale

[craggy tapir]

Hardline in general is underrated. There's only like 1 bad map, gunplay is solid, vehicles were amazing to drive, the new gamemodes they added were amazing, etc

[white moss]

Was the bad map the mansion?

[whole forge]

Im the hardest Hardline glazer in my friend group man

[craggy tapir]

The city block map

[whole forge]

Downtown? Dude that map is goated

[craggy tapir]

Not downtown. The map the size of CoD's shipment

[whole forge]

Oh, that one. OK

I forgot its name but remember the map you are talking about

[quartz fossil]

I recently played hardline for the first time. Campaign is cringe snoozefest but the MP is really really fun.

[craggy tapir]

I think it's literally called "The Block"

[white moss]

We should get a flooded city as a naval map

[frozen thorn]

@hallow geode

[craggy tapir]

Hollywood Heights wasn't amazing, but it was a good limited-vehicle map

[white moss]

We also getting another map similar to that

[flint vapor]

Damn, you know they holding naval back for a full season drop/update

[white moss]

Next expansion has to be Europe though since first one is California

[white moss]

I'll settle for at least one map

[frozen thorn]

I heard rumors about it being in Japan

[white moss]

That one has to be naval

[frozen thorn]

Naval Strike 2.0 would be goated

[craggy tapir]

Kinda wish HL was more active in its later life. I never got a chance to fully experience the later DLC maps like Thin Ice, Train Dodge, Alcatraz, Pacific Highway, or Diversion

[frozen thorn]

Supposedly the are doing a remake each season and the remake is the area it is based on. So there was Downtown, Talah Market, and Propaganda. So we could see a return to Iran or (North) Korea

[flint vapor]

What are people’s thoughts on proper night maps or night variants?

[white moss]

FLIR city

[craggy tapir]

Would be amazing if they did it like Night Woods

Pitch black requiring flir or nvg to see 5 feet infront of you

[flint vapor]

Seeing 32 IR lasers pointed at me would make me need to empty my bucket

[jagged cliff]

Weightily, I can hardly wait to play 128 players in conjunction with conquest large 128 maps on BATTLEFIELD 6. The total surface area of Earth is approximately 510 million square kilometers (197 million square miles), with about 29% (149 million km²) being land and 71% (361 million km²) being covered by water. US population is over 342,034,000 people. RU population is over 143,000,000 people. CN population is over 1,400,000,000 people. UK population is over 69,000,000 people. NATO population is over 958,000,000 people. CSTO population is over 173,000,000 people. SCO population is over 3,300,000,000 people.

[craggy tapir]

... wut

[white moss]

If I'm playing night map in bf4 I'm throwing on my LA camo

[frozen thorn]

Yeah Id like some original night maps, or even a night themed season

[flint vapor]

Not that I have a massive interest in it but I feel like the BR would insane with the sun turned off and the firestorm

[whole forge]

Personally I would love if each season had 1 original map and 1 remastered map, giving us 2 maps per season basically

But obviously that would be less for some people

[white moss]

We are getting 3 to 4 with first season

[craggy tapir]

Would be neat to see them all based around the same location. It'd allow them to showcase how the war is going with new seasons being new offensives

[jagged cliff]

Craving to frolic BATTLEFIELD 6 128 players in conjunction with conquest large 128 map, weightily.

[whole forge]

Yea, like each season having its own region

[edgy bone]

Didnt they say they were just gonna stick to 64 player matches for 6?
Also what does "weightily" mean in this context lol

[flint vapor]

3 maps, 2 vehicles, 6 weapons per season would be comfortable

[craggy tapir]

They are. 128 is not being added to 6

You can probably make a 128 player server using portal though

[frozen thorn]

Season 1 has 2 new MP maps, Downtown remake, and supposedly launching the same time as BR so possibly a new BR map each season

[whole forge]

Yea, I assume the 128 player thing would be BR Portal matches I assume

[jagged cliff]

They are sticking to 128 player matches, otherwise they will be bankrupt.

[craggy tapir]

BR is 100 players

[whole forge]

Ok guys, we have reached the ragebait hour

[edgy bone]

Ok but what does "weightily" mean

[whole forge]

They can change it after testing

[jagged cliff]

'in an important and serious way'

[edgy bone]

Is English your first language?
Not trying to be antagonistic, weightily just isn't used and I'm curious

[craggy tapir]

Well yeah. I doubt they will though since the typical number is 100. Increasing the player count would only make matchmaking times worse

[jagged cliff]

I grasped English language. You did not grasp English language?

[edgy bone]

I'm English native, brother
Infact it's the only language I know lol

[steady goblet]

That is not how you use weightily. It's not meant as a side-note to "enhance" your arguement...

Also, they're doing 64 player. Not 128.

[frozen thorn]

If anything 128 players will be a Portal option, otherwise we wont see it at all in BF6

[upbeat goblet]

yeah cod won

[edgy bone]

This bait stale as hell bruh you gotta get a ziploc bag or smth

[proper rune]

Codfish

[flint vapor]

Squad call ins would be nice to see again

[craggy tapir]

Would be good if they aren't going to add a commander

[steady goblet]

By the way, I like your profile picture. I reminds me of the Shadow Money Wizard Gang. (I mean this genuinely, I actually do like it)

[jagged cliff]

Weightily. 128 players in conjunction with conquest large 128 maps are the superbest, etc.

[solid heart]

no i would prefer a commander that was actively playing and calling down useful stuff for the team when they have time .....than a squad call in just because you suck at the game doesn't mean you need to add in a feature because you can't rally your team together

[edgy bone]

Ty I appreciate it ♥️
Should I add a gold chain to it lmao it might go hard

[steady goblet]

That'd be sick.

[proper rune]

Shouldn't wish death on anyone

[craggy tapir]

Politics be gone. This is not the place. Dice will handle it internally if it's true

[slate steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070598513580310600/1419462598964809779/IMG_7114.png?ex=68d1d90f&is=68d0878f&hm=4ab5e3a4209959774df37d950a2cc8571bdd5c5caaa2f72dcfea84b4905946f0&

[upbeat goblet]

@craggy tapir lets hope

[craggy tapir]

They should know that BF doesn't need that type of backlash right now

[proper rune]

If you do then there is something wrong

[edgy bone]

Ew more politics

I'd rather talk about movement atp

Complain on Twitter bruh

[craggy tapir]

Thank you lurking admins for keeping this from getting too political

[craggy tapir]

Break all the players' legs! You should only be able to crawl to the control point

[upbeat goblet]

im sorry im just mad bro

[edgy bone]

A prone only mode would go hard ngl

[frozen thorn]

Not according to DICE devs, they supposedly said that it wasnt all that popular so they canned it

[whole forge]

Lets just remove the entire infantry gameplay. Only Commander Mode

[flint vapor]

The leopard crawl bros

[whole forge]

TPS War Sims will be back

[edgy bone]

Dolphin dives only

Wonder if I could do that in portal

[whole forge]

Maybe

[flint vapor]

Full helldiver movement

[craggy tapir]

Everyone is now a dwarf. Crouch sprinting only

[whole forge]

Did I hear a Rock and Stone?

[proper rune]

Dwarven sprint

[frozen thorn]

FOR KARL!

[edgy bone]

ROCK
AND
STOOOONE!!!

[frozen thorn]

WE'RE RICH

[edgy bone]

🍄

[frozen thorn]

MUSHROOM

[proper rune]

Lol

[whole forge]

🍄

[blazing mango]

🍄

[whole forge]

I swear the word “Dwarf” is an activation code for Sleeper DRG Fan’s

[blazing mango]

🍄

[frozen thorn]

@edgy bone @whole forge Have you guys heard about Space Jump? Its very similar to DRG but more classic people in space scifi against robots

[blazing mango]

🍄

[whole forge]

I did, I might grab it after its first patches

[blazing mango]

🍄

[frozen thorn]

🍄‍🟫
LOOK OVER HERE

[edgy bone]

I try to not pay attention to new games, not a lot of money goin around rn if you catch my cold

[frozen thorn]

Cover your mouth

[edgy bone]

I don't wanna be muffled

[blazing mango]

🍄

[frozen thorn]

Found out about it yesterday and it seemed tempting, but I am almost of of space on my ssd

[flint vapor]

This is a genuine question as a non USA citizen - Has it crossed anyone’s mind that they are doing a FIRESTORM BR in Cali? Aren’t they hit with wildfires every year?

[frozen thorn]

MUSHROOM

[blazing mango]

🍄

[proper rune]

Badger

[blazing mango]

Sybau NERD 🤡

[frozen thorn]

This is now a Deep Rock Galactic channel

[blazing mango]

CRINGE SLOW MODE

[whole forge]

It could geniunely be just a design choice based on the games setting

I bet the BR has its lore that will justify why the map is on California

[edgy bone]

I've yet to see anyone up in arms about it here but I also live in the Midwest and don't talk to anyone

[frozen thorn]

There were tornadoes in midwest maps on Hardline and flooding in flood prone areas in China, lol it doesnt really matter

[flint vapor]

Again, just outside looking in, it was the first thing I said when I saw the tease - Was waiting for that annual American media hating on games for absolutely 0 reason

[frozen thorn]

I think a giant fire is on brand for Battlefield. Look at Operation Firestorm, Caspian Border, and Iberian Offensive. Theres always someone in the room that says "You know what this map needs? Hills on fire!"

[edgy bone]

They'll find other less meaningful reasons to throw insanely huge fits dw, it'll come

[frozen thorn]

Lmao I experienced a wildfire clsoe by a while back and said lol its fine I used to have them nearby all the time when my roommates were banging on my door at 6am. I woke up like 2 hours later to see ash raining down from the sky filled with smoke with an orange-red Sun and people scrambling to throw shit in their cars.

lmao whoops

[flint vapor]

Speaking of which, I can’t wait for the ‘burnt’ skins to make their return

[frozen thorn]

I stayed for another 2 days til they said if I dont leave now Ill have to be bussed when they do formal evac so I noped out of there

[frozen thorn]

What burnt skins? I know you can catch on fire now in MP

[flint vapor]

The past two games they have added these burnt skins, seems to go with your theme of more fire

[proper rune]

Bfv

[frozen thorn]

Ddint play those games so I wouldnt know

[proper rune]

Firestorm

[frozen thorn]

Make skins for the vehicles that are just the models for when theyre destroyed

[proper rune]

2nd best br in my opinion

[edgy bone]

What's 1

[proper rune]

Pubg

[edgy bone]

Haven't heard that name in years

[flint vapor]

Wouldn’t mind seeing some Russian tanks with some cope cages

[frozen thorn]

Thats how good it is

[edgy bone]

What about h1z1 lol

[proper rune]

Preferred pubg

[edgy bone]

Did you play radical heights lol

[frozen thorn]

Yeah i wanna see the Pax tanks and what theyll look like

[proper rune]

No

[flint vapor]

What about 1v100 for the 360?

[edgy bone]

I haven't heard of that one

[flint vapor]

They are getting the leopard and the IFV we saw in the beta and nato is getting the Abrams with the Bradley

[proper rune]

Pubg is being upscaled for new gen.
Soon I hope.

[flint vapor]

Would be cool to see more European armour in the game

[proper rune]

Thats my dayz go to

[frozen thorn]

It would make more sense. Pax is Balkans, Algeria, and Tajikistan

[willow lance]

Nah

Espada is France/Spain afaik, it's NATO vs ex-NATO

[edgy bone]

If you're skipping launch when are you playing

[flint vapor]

I hope we can unlock some cosmetics from playing the campaign, The Last Tiger style

[frozen thorn]

I saw them confirm the countries somewhere. Also explains while theres an assault on Gibraltar since even tho is connected to Spain, it still has close proximity to Algeria

Kinda glad theyre going for countries that werent the big powers in the last 100 years

[willow lance]

I found the leak but I can't send, Espada seems to be Spain though, Espada means sword in Spanish too

NATO: UK, US, Egypt
Pax: Spain, Balkan, Maghreb

At least for now, we will probably get more factions after launch

[flint vapor]

There is a lot of countries they could do, especially with it being as open with nato and pax and I wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t see more sub factions added to the game

[willow lance]

We will probably get Georgia since it's hinted at the reveal teaser

[frozen thorn]

When during the trailer

[willow lance]

https://x.com/Battlefield/status/1948035690836447674

Belgium is also hinted as a map ig?

[craggy tapir]

We could get France-based maps too

Getting a non-ww2 Paris map could be nice

[frozen thorn]

I feel like theyve been consistent with putting vanilla MP maps based on campaign locations in the past. So far its just Gibralter, Cairo, NYC, and Tajikistan.

[hallow geode]

This is the stuff of nightmares

[craggy tapir]

Would be cool if they released extra campaign missions every season. Doubt it’d ever happen, but it’d be cool

[frozen thorn]

Make em co-op missions

[willow lance]

Nah, they won't update campaign 😂 We will probably just get trailer for post launch maps, half of the trailer will be battlepass content

[craggy tapir]

Oh def. The campaign style they’re going for isn’t good for extra missions anyways. It’d work 10x better if they did a war stories style

Every season could add a new war story that follows the events of the released maps

Basically just a playable version of the lore they loved to release alongside 2042’s seasons

[proper rune]

Bf1 that's a war story

Its very poignant

[austere wave]

this is the Rush I remember in BF3 and BF4, but as soon DICE made Breakthrough, it took all the things from Rush, and turned it into this small infantry only game mode, that honestly nobody ask for, the only difference between Rush and Breakthrough, Rush, you have to destroy the MCOM, while Breakthrough you have to capture the control point https://youtu.be/bbuFjzFp5RU?si=hAxoUW_6Ck1zSYJ3

[smoky heath]

I need October 10 to be release I’m bored haven’t played any games since the beta. Lucky my job and college work help me past the time

[past iron]

Same

Anyone wanna play 2042

[zenith wind]

Remember when it was called "Gold Rush"?

[worldly magnet]

Name checks out

[candid tundra]

Boat goes binted

[past jasper]

no.

[full wraith]

i wish i had the mindset of seeing my work as a way to pass the time lol

instead it just feels like something that holds me back from doing my hobbies 😭

[smoky heath]

I have no choice since I’m bored of the games I have now. But when the game drops my life is complete

[full wraith]

yeah i've felt burnt out from a lot of games recently

[smoky heath]

I also go to them gym tryna build strength if im stress

[lean imp]

The only NATO members left after most of the members left are U.S., UK and Egypt

So it’s safe to assume that most ex-NATO countries are backing Pax Armata

So Spanish mercs, pmcs or black ops/deniable operators in Pax Armata is not a surprise

[full wraith]

exercise is healthy

probably more so than videogames admittedly

[zenith wind]

Got laid off with several hundred others earlier this year, the amount of hobbying I got done in such a short time was massive

[smoky heath]

It is but playing video games keeps me out of trouble😂😂

[lean imp]

Just do a push up every time you got ignored by a teammate while requesting for a revive

[smoky heath]

Sorry you got played off

[smoky heath]

I do push up every time a teammate gives up whenever I try to revive them

[full wraith]

i'm someone with an obsessive personality so i have a tendency to burn myself out whenever i have a lot of free time

[zenith wind]

no worries, I was covered, just wish the game had dropped earlier

[lean imp]

That’s less common in the beta who knows it’s likely a thing at launch

I’ve seen that a lot in BF2042 anyway

[zenith wind]

could've been the first 100 colonel

[lean imp]

If BF3 and BF6 are in the same timeline I doubt we will fight in Paris given that it’s still irradiated most likely

[smoky heath]

For anyone don’t become a teacher cuz a lot of kids don’t know how to read or care about school. Parents are being entitled saying my kid can’t fail and don’t have to do homework

[craggy tapir]

Oh yeah. Forgot that happened lol

[lean imp]

Depends on what country you’re from but in my country education definitely is valued

[smoky heath]

I want to fight on a bigger New York map and LA

[lean imp]

Yeah would be great to have some vehicle combat in NY and LA

[craggy tapir]

Even within America it changes depending on where you are. Rural vs Urban makes a major difference

[smoky heath]

America education for elementary is getting worse

[lean imp]

For something tropical let Pax attack Florida too

[smoky heath]

That would be fire Miami or D.C

D.C has to happen cuz the trailer saw the White House

[craggy tapir]

The American side isn’t even military. It’s just the local crazies that ignored the evacuation order

[lean imp]

DC only got a river but lorewise it won’t make sense for the Pax Armata to get that far

Unless we got a MW2 2009 situation again

[smoky heath]

Never played cod back then

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. DC being attacked means something has gone crazy wrong cause DC is one of the most heavily protected places in America

Though, that could work for the global scene they’re trying to show

[lean imp]

Well maybe in later seasons they could do that but tbh I prefer naval maps

[craggy tapir]

Ik the game is mostly based around the Atlantic, but a Hawaii map could be cool

[tropic tulip]

I love wanting to talk portal in the portal chat but everyone uses it for everything else so it’s always locked..

[smoky heath]

Navy assaults like in bf4

Portal I’m interested in making a good urban warfare

[craggy tapir]

How long do yall think it’ll take for someone to make a makeshift operation metro/locker map in portal?

[tropic tulip]

For a ahitty one made of primitives not long for a faithful recreation with full art done a bit

[lean imp]

Pax Armata could also attack the US’s East Asian/Pacific military bases

But I guess it’s too far probably

[tropic tulip]

That’s funny I was looking at Hawaii on 3D sat for good map locations for portal

[craggy tapir]

It’d be unlikely unless an Asian country joins pax. Crossing the entirety of Europe, Asia, and the pacific just to hit a few bases wouldn’t be worth it

[lean imp]

Maybe a third party will take advantage

Like the BRIC countries

A weakened NATO also will likely make Russia attack Europe as well

So it’s possible for a three way war of sorts

[thorny loom]

from what I remember Blackburn is the one who owns Pax Armata, so he will do whatever will benefit him the most

[craggy tapir]

I could see them doing Russia but china isn’t going to happen. They don’t want 6 to be banned like 4 was

[mortal cliff]

For a moment I was questioning if I was on the battlefield server until i saw pax armata too much politics

[craggy tapir]

People love to bring politics into this server for some reason

[rocky granite]

Because it's offensive, shocking and edgy

[craggy tapir]

The lurking admins take care of a good amount of them tho

[lean imp]

We’re just discussing the BF6 lore and politics

[rocky granite]

Aka 14 year olds going through a weird highschool phase

[lean imp]

Remember the premise of BF6 is very political lmao

Fractured NATO vs ex-NATO members funding a powerful pmc to destroy the NATO remnants? lol ofc it’s political

[rocky granite]

I know im talking about rl politics

[mortal cliff]

Nah it make sense is about the pax armata new faction

[craggy tapir]

Well yeah. It can get out of hand sometimes tho

[mortal cliff]

I think im lost, the idea is not like all big government vs a corpo type union using the pmc (pax armata)

[craggy tapir]

From what I can tell, something happened that caused nato to break up and some ex-nato countries started supporting a large pmc called pax armada

Some think that pax is Blackburn’s pmc that was talked about in 2042 but it’s unconfirmed

[mortal cliff]

So battlefield 6 and 2042 are in the same universe?

[craggy tapir]

Perhaps. We don’t know yet

[mortal cliff]

So is just theories right? Nothing more than the campaign trailer?

[craggy tapir]

I personally hope it is cause we could then get more info about the wars in 3 and 4

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. Apparently something in Tokyo is going to show off more campaign stuff tho

[mortal cliff]

Me too, i would be awesome and i was talking with someone in general about everything being in the same universe like with random dialogue like, hey Alex you remember that thing that happend in miami?

[craggy tapir]

(Sept 26th at the Tokyo Game Show 2025)

[mortal cliff]

IT WAS NO 25?

[craggy tapir]

What?

[mortal cliff]

I take things off my calendar to see the event, thankfully the next days are gonna be all free

[craggy tapir]

I hope they reference the characters from 3 and 4. Having recker be an admiral or something would be cool

[mortal cliff]

Yeah, that would be cool, at least something like that would make the community wish for a book or something else, i always love the history of all battlefield games and i wish a more... More ways to see that universe

I have high expectations for the battlefield 6 campaign

[fringe laurel]

Is the shot delay after a full reload animation still going to be in the final game. That extra lil motion before you can shoot is a joke. Remove that please

[rough furnace]

Just add Battle Royale mode in 2042 no need for bf6 🤌

[zenith wind]

I'm hoping the BR is totally separate from the rest of the game

[gleaming timber]

Bro the withdrawals are real. Dice Pls 😭😭😭

[thin nexus]

realest statment thus far

[compact skiff]

The basic iron sights for the m4a1 need to be changed tbh

[frozen thorn]

Why

[compact skiff]

Cuz it’s using the wrong iron sights?

A lot of m4s used the carry handle iron sights

Plus if they add the carry handle as a default iron sight, the gun itself would look a lot better than its old iron sights

[marble depot]

the game is set in 2027, not having a carry handle is fine lol

[civic scarab]

When can I put a carry handle on my Ak

Heck, can I do that and then convert it to accept p90 mags

Dead game already. Do better Dice

[frozen thorn]

Needs default 5x scope, iron sights should be unlocked

[grizzled pawn]

hello yalls 2 weeks left till BF6 releases

when its on sale should i buy it?

[compact skiff]

Nah, default sight should be the carry handle

[willow lance]

BT is made to be big Rush

[willow lance]

Type 20 is one of the weapons leaked and it's probably coming with a Japanese season

[thin nexus]

You guys think we'll get more guns after release :D

[willow lance]

M4 sights we have are clearer. Gameplay > realism

[tight prism]

Wait is b6 gonna have story?

[marble depot]

maybe one day we'll have a game that does sight rendering realistically...

[arctic edge]

Yes

[willow lance]

Wdym?

[marble depot]

irl you would not see the housing of sight, only the reticle or front sight

assuming you have both eyes open

[compact skiff]

Realism feels a lot better tbh

[frozen thorn]

I doubt there will be a sale until maybe 6 months out

[compact skiff]

Hands down the bf6 needs the m24 and the cheytac

[marble depot]

it's not even realistic because most M4's don't have carry handles lol

[fervent sleet]

Random hot take:

I saw the post on the subreddit a few days ago where the consensus was that sniping was too easy in BF6 beta. I think the automatic ranging with sniper attachment is actually going to make sniping in this game way more fun, and feel more like BF1. I think this is mainly because the sample size of people that have used and know how to take advantage of this attachment have been the ones playing the game so far.

From the stats posted to the BF twitter, 19% of the deployments in the beta were Recon. Among Recon players, I would bet only half actually will utilize the auto-zeroing every time they shoot. The extra key/button presses needed to do that every shot actually adds enough of a barrier to the skill gap that you can distinguish yourself in a game if you know the trick and have a good round.

With these assumptions and for a game of 64 players, we would expect 6 Recon that actively take advantage of it. 3 per side. To me, that feels more balanced, idk. I think if you're running around in the open a bunch and get picked off by a skilled sniper, that kinda makes sense and rewards more strategic movement.

[compact skiff]

I’m definitely gonna be finding some epic sniper spots on downtown at launch

[marble depot]

the m2010 is already in the game + no one uses the intervention lol...

[compact skiff]

The cheytac was the most used gun in bf4,plus the m24 was iconic in bc2

[marble depot]

I meant irl

the M24 makes zero sense when the M2010 is in the game already

[thin nexus]

play a milsim game?

[frozen thorn]

Nah, I think the auto zeroing would be fine if there was a multi-second delay to hit targets standing still, or other snipers. That way a good sniper can counter against the time it takes for the zeroing to work its magic. I suck at using jets and I would use them more of the projectiles from the main canon were the size of a transport jeep, but then that would take away from those that are actually skilled with using jets

[thin nexus]

I miss when games had real gun names

[marble depot]

I don't really care as long as the model and animations are realistic

and I think BF6's fake designations are cute

[fervent sleet]

I dont disagree that it makes sniping easier, I just think that people assume all snipers are going to be taking advantage of it, which I disagree with. In reality not many snipers will exist per round that know how to use it

[frozen thorn]

Give us the option to change the names of guns in game.

There, no the responsibility is off there hands

[marble depot]

maybe they'll let us name weapon packages like blueprints in MW19

[willow lance]

You can bind scope zeroing and holding breath to the same button(your ADS button), sniping is literally point and click in BF6

[fervent sleet]

I don't disagree with this, I'm just saying not everyone will know how to use it to their advantage

[willow lance]

Nah, game will be unplayable just like how everyone abused shotguns in the beta

[frozen thorn]

Maybe 15 years ago people wouldnt know about a certain attachment or meta, but I can easily see it being heard that it turns it into easy mode. I just think it adds more to the BS factor of things how at a perfect position you can snipe at the flag nearest to the enemy's HQ from your own HQ.
On top of that factoring in things like bullet drop and distance is part of Battlefield's identity and just makes it just like every other FPS sniper

[willow lance]

That's why I'm a launch skipper 😂

[marble depot]

meh at least snipers are a lil bit less annoying to deal with

[dawn totem]

You know what I hope gets added when the game comes out. A steam game profile, That would be sick.

[frozen thorn]

Im glad they turned down the glint

[fervent sleet]

I think assumes that a large % of the players online are actually clued into the discussion about the game like that, which I just think isn't the case

Especially at launch when it's filled with new players

[willow lance]

I think it will make snipers even more annoying, they didn't nerfed sniper velocity, bullet drop, base damage or sweet spot, you just won't be able to see them

[dawn totem]

Use your points at the point shop for a cool background or something like that.

[frozen thorn]

Theres tons of vids that will be made about the meta guns for things. Plenty of people search up "Best weapon in game" and will find discussions and videos for it. They dont need to partcipate, everyonehas already done it for them.

[marble depot]

good thing 80% of them can't hit their shots

[frozen thorn]

I always figured 3 shots to limbs, 2 shots to chest, and 1 shot to the head is fine for sniper damage.

[marble depot]

they need to bring suppression for snipers

[frozen thorn]

Fr, not like BF3 suppression that affected bullet spread, but just visual supression

[marble depot]

lil scope sway would be nice

[fervent sleet]

If every sniper is doing it, then I agree it would be too oppressive. That would be 6 snipers per side per round on average that are pointing and clicking at range. I just don't think everyone who is sniping is going to be doing it, and its more likely to be a % around 50%

[marble depot]

it's still bad game design

snipers rn are overtuned with sweet spot, auto zeroing and no supression

[frozen thorn]

Like if you are 100% locked in and are being suppressed and want to risk it you can at great disadvantage, but not to the point where point blank shotgun will do nothing

[fervent sleet]

When it comes to the "skill gap" being closed with respect to sniping I think it simultaneously rewards good movement on the map to avoid sniper fire. Using smokes, cover, etc, which more than offsets the fun, and gives the bonus of making sniping way more satisfying for the ones skilled enough to use the tactic

[nova axle]

Maybe if they made the range finder have a range from like 100-250m 250-500m so it still took some adjustments or skill but you don't have to be a pro or make 5 adjustments before you get a kill.

[frozen thorn]

I feel like if youre that guy who can snipe people consistently across the map to hold down a flag I feel like you gotta earn that.

[frozen thorn]

I like the idea of just bringing back how it used to be for BF3/4 with zeroing your scope, but make it in 50m increments instead of 100m

[nova axle]

I personally enjoyed the sniping in the beta, but I'll never be a recon main so I didn't exactly mind the game making it easier on people like myself, but the rangefinder might of been too easy

[fervent sleet]

I think this is so easily countered though, with a bit of smoke and good movement its not that difficult

[nova axle]

I feel the second dmr was honestly better than running a sniper most of the time. Just spamming 2 shots to the body from 300 meters

[civic herald]

Sniper worst class they need all the buffs they can get

[nova axle]

Idk if I would say that. There was already enough snipers in the beta lmao. I know there's counters but it doesn't make it less annoying to see 10 snipers camping in their spawn.

[civic herald]

Based on beta stats they were least played

[velvet girder]

I just hope there’s a ton of different 1st person melee animations. 2042 melee animations are so jarring because they are 3rd person views.

[spare socket]

Real.

The sniping in bf6 is the easiest of all the frostbite bf games

[marble depot]

correlation does not mean causation

[fervent sleet]

19% Recon in beta and I think only 50% will take advantage of the attachment

[spare socket]

Minimal bullet drop, range finder attachment that autos to the exact distance, fast bullet travel

[spare socket]

You forget the reality that assaults will soon realize they can dual wield a sniper and an m4a1 while using a spawn beacon

[quiet plover]

What are the chances of commander mode coming back

[marble depot]

I would argue the recon in the beta was extremely strong, TUGs, Beacon and C4 were crazy if you doing a CQC flanking playstyle

[nova axle]

As long as it takes like 50 points or something it'll probably be fine. They do have to make it accessible for New players

[spare socket]

I liked it more than assault but the beacon moving to assault is huge imo

Beacon was the overall strongest gadget for objective harassment imo.

[marble depot]

yeah I might actually play assault now with that change

[civic herald]

They prob had least winrate too

[marble depot]

is there any evidence for this?

[velvet girder]

Personally recon should have rao or blast cos gadget in bf6

[marble depot]

they should have the blasco gadget

[civic herald]

I gave stats from beta and you literally ignored it so why care abt evidence

[nova axle]

Yea because half of them sat in spawn the whole game lmao.

[marble depot]

you do realise low pick rate doesn't mean the class is weak

if you weren't a numpty that sits at spawn with a sniper getting 1 kill every 3 minutes you'd realise that the class was really good

[fervent sleet]

but it does say on avg the amount per class you can expect

[civic herald]

Most competitive games the highest pickrate is usually strongest and lowest is usually weakest unlesss ppl just like looks of character or whatever

[nova axle]

But also to be fair we only had one map that sniping was even fun on

[civic herald]

But theres not even any cosmetics yet its just classes really and its open weapons

[marble depot]

battlefield isn't a competitive game tho

[spare socket]

I want 3 things to happen before launch:

-class lock the sniper in open weapons to recon to promote more recon play and less assault play. The sniper is the most class defining weapon type.

-nerf or class lock the hammer melee weapon. For the former make it take 2-3 swings to break through.

-make sniping have less bullet speed and/or more drop. Also remove the ability to auto zero with the range finder.

[marble depot]

a majority of the players in the beta were just doing whatever, I doubt many people were actually evaluating class viability outside of them feeling the urge to snipe or whatever

[civic herald]

Its arcade shooter ppl pick the most fun class and its usually means most strongest class

[spare socket]

Assault is overall the best solo class imo

[marble depot]

assault is not the strongest class

[nova axle]

Assault should only be able to have a shotgun as a gadget no dmrs

[marble depot]

support was more sustainable for solo players imo

[spare socket]

You mean for the secondary weapon?

[marble depot]

I would argue assault was the weakest class in the beta

[civic herald]

Omg what

[nova axle]

If I'm not mistaken it was a gadget slot

[marble depot]

their class gadget is pretty bad

weapon sling is a one trick pony

[civic herald]

Assault had grenade launchers that can unads you and do like 60% hp with wide aoe

[nova axle]

I gotta disagree dual nade launchers was kinda funny to spam

[willow lance]

Assault is pretty bad now ngl

[marble depot]

Support APS in the final game 😛

[willow lance]

They decoupled fast hp regen and faster strafe speed perks

[marble depot]

I meant the stim, the GLs were pretty good

[civic herald]

Stim useless but assault had passive that makes them heal faster

[nova axle]

Oh yea I kept using it like the stim in call of duty

[marble depot]

or I could just play support with the supply crate and regen instantly + the ability to revive any teammate

[willow lance]

It doesn't work though, that's the issue, it doesn't give you hp or doesn't start your hp regen

[nova axle]

The health Regen made supports super important.

[marble depot]

by far the best class in the game for infantry players

[spare socket]

Tbf the hp regen delay in bf6 is 5 seconds vs other battlefields having way longer periods

[nova axle]

Yea that's my point is was a let down lol, but supports are important because of it

[marble depot]

with open weapons I think the medic should be relegated back to assault lmao

[spare socket]

Bf4 was like 15 seconds

[nova axle]

I think assault is the strongest in multiplayer but the weakest in the battle Royale

[spare socket]

I think dual weapons, spawn beacon, launchers, and that ladder give assault a clear playstyle as a sorta breacher

[marble depot]

it should be like 7 seconds, 15 is way too long

[spare socket]

Yeah it should be like 7. 5 is too quick

[willow lance]

5 seconds is good, they should revert hp regen change though

[marble depot]

yeah they're like a psuedo-squad leader

[spare socket]

Why

[willow lance]

BF6 has fast TTK already, it shouldn't take 30 seconds to get back to fight 😂

[spare socket]

It was 20 HPS before it’s 10 HPS now.

[willow lance]

Yeah, fast regen was good

[spare socket]

It takes max 10 seconds. (Not accounting for suppression)

[nova axle]

It makes you need to play as a team more though every class has a place.

[willow lance]

15 seconds, used to be 10

[spare socket]

?

Oh yeah 💀

[willow lance]

5 seconds waiting for regen to start, 10 seconds waiting for hp to refill

[spare socket]

I mean I think they did that change to promote support a bit more idk.

[marble depot]

it should be fine on the larger maps

[willow lance]

Support already bypasses hp regen though

[marble depot]

yeah having too slow of a regen just makes support the de facto infantry class

I would like to see DICE try manual healing again

[spare socket]

Curious to see if there are under barrel anti vehicle launchers

[nova axle]

If you're playing with your squad Regen is not a problem. Or just playing near your team there's bound to be one support

[spare socket]

If so then support+bag is really flexible

[willow lance]

Could work if everyone has like 5-10 med pouches lol

Or stims

Kinda like BO4

[marble depot]

yeah I was thinking something like attrition from BFV, except everyone could carry 5 heals, along with some downtime to heal where you can't use your gun

[nova axle]

I mean at least everything is more balanced then 2042. I don't even feel like playing support on that game

[worldly magnet]

Support is the only thing I do play on 2042 these days

[spare socket]

I just wish this game didn’t have dog water map design man

[nova axle]

I personally don't see a point. Unless I have to get kills with grenades for a challenge.

[spare socket]

I actually liked the mechanics of that one

[nova axle]

They need to bring back parcel storm with the ship crashing onto shore

[worldly magnet]

I just like to help the team. That’s really it. I find medic gameplay the most compelling.

[spare socket]

Support is busted in 2042 what

[willow lance]

I use medic to heal myself and ignore my teammates

[spare socket]

Play falk, run the SFAR with 3 under barrel grenade attachments, use the ammo box, run smoke grenades

[spare socket]

You have a healing gun for yourself and allies and every ammo box you throw down gives you 4 grenades instantly

[worldly magnet]

It’s incredible how much better Falck is to the other supports.

[spare socket]

The plus system breaks the grenade economy of 2042 massively.

[nova axle]

The defibs are kinda useless and the engineer is almost a must with all the vehicles running around

[spare socket]

Brother use the fragmentation under barrel launcher

[marble depot]

AP 40mm 😛

[spare socket]

Each deal 20 damage to a vehicle

[nova axle]

I mean I never played when bf2042 was new so at this point team play is dead in that game so that might be why.

[nova axle]

Yea after you get 300 kills with the ak to unlock it

[spare socket]

I haven’t played the game since beta. Tried the beta. Hated it. Never bought the game until like 3 ish weeks ago for 3 bucks for the bf6 pass

It’s just really easy to assess the systems in 2042 immediately for what they are if you use the full sandbox in the franchise constantly

Aerial vehicles are busted, tanks are sitting ducks that die, ammo box is busted due to the plus system, and the guns lack recoil so TTK and utility is mostly what matters from weapons

[nova axle]

The vehicles in that game are just Soo strong because how many there are so I just main engineer

[spare socket]

Also smokes are required

Playing 2042 without smokes is mental. You will die way too often simply trekking across the horrendous map design of that game

[spare socket]

I would argue the tanks are balls but the aerial vehicles are nutty.

The best tanks in the franchise easily go to bf5 handily.

[willow lance]

They should revert smoke changes, every class should have smokes

[spare socket]

Shizz could go through buildings like they were made of paper mache

[nova axle]

I would disagree because tanks take no skill to top the leaderboard. Just play cautious and rack up kills

[spare socket]

Ah yes play cautious

Against people running a specialist that have remote controlled rockets 💀

[humble junco]

Just pre-ordered BF6 Phantom edition.. .can't wait. =o)

[marble depot]

why did they do that 😭

[nova axle]

But you can play cover and all the upgrades make it really hard to die

[spare socket]

What smoke change

If you say some insanity like:
only support can run smokes
Or
They reduced smokes to 1.

I’m going to lose my mind

[worldly magnet]

Did mine like a week ago. Can’t come soon enough. I’m dying for a game to sink my teeth into rn.

[nova axle]

As a support main did you try the defibs in beta

[sage prairie]

The beta over or they still doing some?

[spare socket]

Labs testing only

[worldly magnet]

Of course. Used it more than the drag revive in some cases.

[willow lance]

Too much surströmming

[nova axle]

Honestly the funnest time I had was getting a quad kill with the defibs

[humble junco]

spent like $200 pre-ordering 2 games for oct.... then im going to spend another 200 for november

[worldly magnet]

They were a little cracked in the beta

[marble depot]

they will do everything except add numerical health values to the HUD

[willow lance]

Only support has smokes

[nova axle]

Don't say that. We don't need them getting nerfed lmao

[spare socket]

[sage prairie]

k, been trying to get back into the Labs discord again, i deleted by mistake but i keep getting the run around trying to e-mail EA and labs e-mail but i get no help.

[worldly magnet]

I think they already have been. (I think, could be wrong)

I’ve watched a lot of the new footage but I haven’t seen any of the content creators playing support much

[nova axle]

I hope they didn't kill them because the bf 2042 defibs make me hate support

[marble depot]

what's wrong with the defibs?

[worldly magnet]

I never use them in 2042. I just do the animation.

[nova axle]

Yea that's kinda my point there's no use in pulling them out even.

[marble depot]

that's fine

[worldly magnet]

Agreed. I think 6 strikes a better balance. They’re faster than the drag.

But you could spam them like crazy. There was no cooldown on them.

[marble depot]

they're worse than the BF1 syringe 😬

[worldly magnet]

Nooo. You couldn’t revive nearly as quickly in 1

[nova axle]

Maybe just make the charge longer instead of bf 2042 where's there's not even an animation you're just stuck there spamming left click with the defibs in your hand

[worldly magnet]

Yeah I don’t think they should do anything too drastic. You should get a small cooldown after like 3 quick revives or something.

[nova axle]

I got like 67 revives and 20 kills in the beta with only defibs so anything big nerf would just ruin the class for me

[zenith wind]

Make them work like in the old games

[worldly magnet]

Kills are whatever. They still need to be full charged to get a kill so that’s fine.

[zenith wind]

They were better back then

[worldly magnet]

In what way

[marble depot]

nah 20 hp revives were awful

[worldly magnet]

The spam revives in 6 bring you up at 50. And holding charge can get them to 100

[zenith wind]

The cool down, animation and pixel count

[nova axle]

Just take away no charge revives and make charged revives be 50. That would be better without them feeling useless

[marble depot]

charged revives at 50 is crazy

[worldly magnet]

There is a new animation in the new footage. Better feedback too with a very visual blue lightning thingy when you actually get the rez.

I think a full charge should be full HP

[nova axle]

Yea well you get like no health in bf2042 if a squad mate revives you at least so I'm used to it

[marble depot]

well that's because they're not medic

[worldly magnet]

Yeah only medics revive at full

[spare socket]

2042 support is just the best class in that game and it's not even close

[nova axle]

I would rather that then sitting there getting shot at for 3 seconds while I wait on my defibs to charge

[spare socket]

The game is also dog water and I'm only playing it for free bf6 stuff (and cuz my friends are on it)

[nova axle]

I'm still gonna have to disagree there. The TV rocket and c5 is too good to pass up on. Especially with open weapons

[worldly magnet]

Luckily my grind is almost over. I’m at like 49. Between the challenges tomorrow and next week I’ll have it done easily.

[nova axle]

Like that's actually so dumb that your rockets recharge

[spare socket]

Unless the enemy team has a good heli pilot support is just too strong to pass up on. Even if you have a good heli pilot on the enemy team you want like 2 supports and 2 engineers

[left spoke]

Engineer is on par honestly.

[spare socket]

the ammo box in 2042 is busted

[zenith wind]

The TV missile is one of the worst gadgets in the history of the game

[left spoke]

Chill on tank, constantly repair, hold objective, rpg7 to knock out incoming vehicles.

[nova axle]

Yea and most of the vehicles dominating the whole team have a pocket engineer constantly repairing

[tight prism]

BF6 is going to flop

Flop harder than a soggy flip flop

[left spoke]

F tier rage bait

[nova axle]

We don't need that negativity in here. The copium is too strong for your kind

[tight prism]

Thanks for confirming your lack of intelligence by being incapable of discerning facts from opinions

[left spoke]

F tier rage bait (again)

[nova axle]

Yea no your argument just lost validity because you tried to insult someone who disagreed with you but nice rage bait anyway

[tight prism]

So you're saying.. this is just another echo chamber for delusional melons to bounce their shitty opinions off each other & have no opposing views?

I mean I love disrupting echo chambers on my free time 😄

[left spoke]

in*

[nova axle]

Dang someone got butt hurt that his ragebait failed and he tried to lash out at random strangers because of it