battlefield-6

[scenic badge]

If we're talking about the objective worst map in bf6's beta,then it would have to be liberation peak

[spare socket]

☠️ what

[frozen thorn]

On console it was 12 vs 12 so CQ played better than CoD maps at that time imo

I heard on PC it was a nightmare with the high player count

[molten flint]

Agreed. Holding out hope it’ll be a bit slower on launch

[spare socket]

I wouldn't remotely compare it to CS. The bloom mechanics and mobility of bf6 are vastly different. Even the map design frankly

[late folio]

It was just a rotating metro

[spare socket]

I think the sad part about empire is that Idk how on earth they can fix the D point

it's genuinely just so hard baked into the current layout that a complete overhaul of that lower section of the map feels like the only way to fix it

[ebon plume]

yeah i honestly hope this game is it, but ive seen too many telltale signs that the marketing team is making most of the decisions

and that is whats ruined most games, is the focus becomes revenue

suprisingly you cant make art if your too focused on money

[molten flint]

Tbh with how well the game performed on my pc (I meet all specs, except only got 8GB of RAM atm), I have a good feeling that this game will be better than the last two launches

[spare socket]

I will say it's funny because excluding the D point. I think empire is the best infantry only cqc map for both Rush and conquest if both teams ignore that point and its benefits through some magic witchcraft.

[velvet dawn]

TF you mean? One of the best looking shooter games of 2019 just ends up being a yearly slopfest with a f2p battle royale mode, launcher between all the games and wild cosmetics.

oh. wait.

[spare socket]

how that might happen due to the map flow inherently pointing people in the directions to benefit from that point

idk

[ebon plume]

what are you talking about, what game?

[velvet dawn]

It's 2025 and it's BF and not MW 19

[molten flint]

Worse comes to worse, if Bf6 doesn’t scratch my itch this year, I can always keep playing BF3 til the servers close on PC

[frozen thorn]

I actually spent most of the time going to D flag on ES. They jsut need to make the flag area bigger

[spare socket]

I'm in the camp of people that feel that cod multiplayer hasn't significantly interested me or innovated since mw2 2009

[late folio]

I mean I can fix D easily. Just move it to the mid ground closer to US spawn.

[ebon plume]

yeah and as time progresses AAA studios care less about the "art" of the game and more about quick revenue

[late folio]

B is closer to pax spawn anyway

[ebon plume]

but the "art" of the game is what creates a game that lasts decades

[spare socket]

moving it left improves it but also makes it more beneficial to the left team early game.

A point being beneficial early game but poor late game is the concern

[velvet dawn]

It's not innovation. It's replication nowadays.

[spare socket]

This change makes it pretty even late game but doesn't solve the early game issue imo (wrong reply)

[frozen thorn]

Move it down the stairs. Make the whole staircase cappable

[spare socket]

fire change unironically

[ebon plume]

sadly the want to copy what others have done thats another telltale sign that its marketing making the decisions, they wont take risk. ever

[quick willow]

Has anyone tested out 1440p DLAA vs DLSS quality in the BF6 beta? Visually Clarity etc?

[late folio]

US is at a disadvantage compared to Pax on empire because of the flag layout.

[spare socket]

ok how about:
make stairs cappable
make D closer to US

[ebon plume]

but risk is what creates innovation and a good game

[spare socket]

there

[ebon plume]

a game with soul

[frozen thorn]

Nvm, would make it easy to snipe from US spawn

[spare socket]

that's good enough it doesn't solve everything but it's good

[late folio]

That's what I mean. Stairs is mid ground and is closer to US spawn. It would mirror Pax and B

[spare socket]

I do still think US has the early game advantage but that's just me

[frozen thorn]

If theres cover from sniper fire

[ebon plume]

i feel as though every entertainment industry is making less and less "art" and more corporate slop

[spare socket]

Late game pax has the overall game on lock if they ever cap D

[lament furnace]

Am I the only one who things Assault having two primary weapons is fine

[spare socket]

this is untrue

[ebon plume]

lol give me an example

[velvet dawn]

Shame that it's profit over everything. the dev teams are inflated, mass layoffs are a bad thing, players buy all the slop big companies feed them, preorders are always all that matters

[ebon plume]

if you say movie industry your just wrong

[normal echo]

yes it's fine, but only with closed weapons (which shouldn't be optional outside of portal)

[ebon plume]

yep. its a sad time

[spare socket]

there is in fact more and more media being made across the globe from various people.

Everyone goes towards mainstream but see here's the cool thing:
When the world economy improved so did the budgets and opportunities for indie and lower scale production vs higher production projects.

[fiery quest]

yo, how can people play the BR and the new maps? i only played when it was playtest months ago

[ebon plume]

but what do you do when companies rival literal countries

[lament furnace]

I personally honestly don't care if they do open weapons or not, at this point, I don't want to play Support and be stuck with a LMG or carbine, I was playing AR during the beta and it was fun

[spare socket]

If you only watched mainstream hollywood in the 60s vs today you would have a completely different view if you watched indie and smaller scal passion projects in both eras

[frozen thorn]

Should just limit to PDW, shotgun, and DMR like before

[ebon plume]

see thats what i mean its only indie stuff making the art

[spare socket]

this even applies to video games

[normal echo]

they where either in labs or a special invite only thing for streamers.... it's not a coincidence that EVERY streamer basically posted teh same two videos the last two days

[velvet dawn]

there is no risk anymore. teams don't have to make a good game. just something that looks appealing to the average consoomer.

[frozen thorn]

Sole reason for open weapons imo

[ebon plume]

not the triple a studios

[spare socket]

this doesn't mean that all big budget projects are slop tho some try.

But it's merely a budget shift

[ebon plume]

its because marketing hates risk

[spare socket]

again the indie scene being as large as the triple A/hollywood scene of days past (arguably much larger)

[fiery quest]

yeah but how servers were full?

[spare socket]

is the point I'm making

[normal echo]

bots. There where a number of comments about bot players in the new footage from multiple streamers

[ebon plume]

they try but they get stomped by shareholders

not that shareholders are making the descisions

[candid tundra]

Boat goes binted

[ebon plume]

but that they focus on appeasing the shareholders so they go for the safer option

but risk is what innovates

[frozen thorn]

I mean, if its Labs Id expect so

[spare socket]

indie films, indie games, directors with their own visions and portfolio that attract A list actors for smaller projects, double A studios that secure funding for their projects, etc of the modern era

Are larger than hollywood and the triple A video game industry between the 1960s-1990s by a mile imo in terms of the amount of high quality media produced

[normal echo]

ARs are the biggest reason im against open weapons. playing both open and closed over beta, open always felt like "pick your favorite AR" mode

Though they where also apparently doing an effective range balance pass on weapons recently... so AR's might not be as solid closer range anymore

[ebon plume]

yeah and then guess what the board does, almost mutilate the concept because they deem it risky

[ebon plume]

its rare nowadays for a large company to fully back a artisitc idea

im not saying it doesnt happen

im saying the rate of "art" is being fucked with by buisness

[velvet dawn]

We're just a spoke on a wheel at this point. every preorder, every battlepass, every skin purchase just gives big publishers more money. They don't have to make a good game to keep afloat, they make a good marketing campaign to sell copies of a game you'll never own.

[lament furnace]

Pretty much, and honestly, I don't really care anymore about all this push for class disparity, if they cared about class system, they'd make every class have unique silhouette and shit, they didn't fully commit to this

[ebon plume]

fr, if buying isnt owning then pirating isnt stealing

[spare socket]

Elden ring, god of war, red dead 2, nintendo still cooks (it sucks at handling consumers but it's the best work environment in the triple A industry), I would argue optimization issues aside borderlands 4 is a great title, cyberpunk 2077 after patches, doom 2016 to dark ages,resident evil as a franchise frankly as of lately, remnant 2, mass effect legendary edition, uncharted 4, baldur's gate 3, witcher 3, astro bot, spiderman, ghost of tsushima, etc

I really could keep listing but we would be here forever

[ebon plume]

i disagree with the nintendo point but could you list more?

[velvet dawn]

My motto for the past year XD Keep it up man!

[normal echo]

I'll be real even if they did give class silhouettes, camoflauge exists for a reason, if people didn't get the little marks above their head when you spot them, I'd never have seen 3/4 of the people in beta until they opened fire

[ebon plume]

and borderlands 4 is a flop

they have fallen to marketing

and remnant is ass

[spare socket]

Optimization wise. yes.

Everything else. No. It's the best borderlands game in the franchise by a mile.

[ebon plume]

mass effect i only played the originals so idk

[velvet dawn]

as if BF6 was any better

[normal echo]

the lead dev of BL4 telling people the game was running bad to just enable 50xx series graphics card features was pretty tone def

[ebon plume]

i disagree i think all of it is poor

[slow horizon]

any eu playin?

[spare socket]

did you play the game?

[ebon plume]

i seen over 4 hrs of it

dude i love the borderlands franchise

seriously that was one of my goto games

[spare socket]

then what about 4 do you dislike besides optimization

[ebon plume]

but it felt soulless

seemed

sorry ive never played it so ye

it seemed soulless

after watching over 4 hrs of gameplay

their not an indie dev anymore

[ember scaffold]

Hopefully magnifier sights will be in BF6

[frozen thorn]

NO

[ember scaffold]

The guy is definitely trolling people since Alien Colonial Marines tbh

[spare socket]

it has the most build variety ever, it has the most enemy variety ever, it has tons of QOL features, it has vaults you can actually find key fragments for (yk being a vault hunter for once), it has the best side villains in the franchise besides jack being yk main villain goat, it has really good open world design, it has ordinances which are awesome replacements for nades along with throwing knives, it has throwing knives, it has tons of cool puzzles scattered around the world, it has the best gunplay and movement in the franchise, and it has the most content at launch of any borderlands game

[velvet dawn]

shit doesn't run on 5070 + 9800X3D, company CEO says you need a "premium system for a premium game" Whole game is a joke and it's all because of optimization

[ebon plume]

qol features, variety all that doesnt matter to me if the game seems soulless

[ember scaffold]

Magnifier sights should come back for realism and immersion

[normal echo]

meanwhile bf6 ran fine on my below min req toaster

[spare socket]

Oh I agree the game's optimization is not good and I don't recommend getting it now.

Randy Pitchford flip the P is also a joke. The devs on the notes and discord are aiming to fix the game's optimization and have announced as such prior to randy saying jack.

Randy is just an idiot and always has been

[frozen thorn]

Maybe, Im just tryna star another fight

[ember scaffold]

You don’t see regular soldiers using canted sights

[late folio]

LPVO my beloved

[ebon plume]

like corpo slop

[merry dove]

You dont like being shoehorned into running DLSS to have a semi playable experience?

[lament furnace]

I think to balance having two primary weapons, the Assault should either have a secondary primary or a pistol, it appears currently, they can have two primaries and a pistol

[spare socket]

Idk it to me is like saying 2077 at launch is "soul less" lol. It's soul less because the soul keeps bugging out all the time and dying to frame rate issues.

[velvet dawn]

I love you guys XD
Slop is Slop and most people here can see right through it XD

[ebon plume]

yeah but honestly thats not what i thin

[normal echo]

kinda worried fake frames to have decent fps is going to become ever more common for gaming in general

[ebon plume]

they iterated on existing mechanics

thats seems it

[spare socket]

You can go to the borderlands discord and 99% of people will say that bl4 is the best entry in the franchise. The main issue is the optimization and everyone even the devs agree on that

Randy is just an idiot unfortuantely.

[ebon plume]

i havent heard a single person say that

[spare socket]

The game would have better PR if he hasn't said a thing

[ebon plume]

their copers

coping cuz they spent money

[normal echo]

^ people thought diablo 4 was good the first like 2 weeks, too

[ebon plume]

fr

[spare socket]

have you talked to anyone who actually completed the game on something that can run it ok?

[ember scaffold]

He’s not an idiot he definitely knows what he’s doing

Bro lied since Alien Colonial Marines, ain’t nothing new

[spare socket]

Diablo 4 was hot dog water from the beginning imo

[scenic badge]

yeah im sure only two people are gonna use magnifier sights

[ebon plume]

but diablo 4 has more customization and developed the combat more

[frozen thorn]

Hes like Todd Howard minus the blind followers

[spare socket]

@ebon plume anyways

want me to keep listing actually?

[ebon plume]

gr

[ember scaffold]

Still should be a thing tbh

We are gonna play as MARSOC units in campaign they definitely use those same as the VCOG

LVPO is more like a U.S. Army thing

[ebon plume]

yes

but those are also semi older games

their not new

[normal echo]

D4 has had like maybe 2 total months of decently good gameplay in the like 3 years it + expansion have been out..... between that and stealing Overwatch 1 from me and replacing it with the OW2 abomination.... those where the two big points where I started absolutely hating activision/blizzard

[ember scaffold]

Hopefully we get delta and seals as future Subfactions tho

[velvet dawn]

Nope. I also don't like a studio making Borderline (kek) unplayable game and having their CEO blaming his playerbase for having the specs to play it XD

[ebon plume]

i get that it takes years and a lot of them to make something good

list me more that was in the last 8 years

[merry dove]

I quite like dlss for the sale of allowing older hardware to remain relevant a bit longer but it should NEVER be the standard to have current gen hardware run games

[ember scaffold]

Dark Ages is nice but have very high system requirements

It’s the first DOOM that can’t run on any older hardware properly

[ebon plume]

thats almost enough time to make "art"

[summer glade]

BL4 isn’t bad… give it a few months

[ebon plume]

sure

[merry dove]

Yeee its been a biiiiit

[normal echo]

months? That definitely sounds like cope... if it needs months, it shouldn't have shipped

[ember scaffold]

I refunded anyway so np

No fomo because they’re selling the preorder bonus separately anyway

[tight prism]

BL4 on console has apparently been fine, on PC with the PR disaster it has apparently been a dumpster fire.

[velvet dawn]

It's a joke. fps has become a buzzword for companies to tell the players that the game runs well.
Fuck your input lag, have big frames instead XDD

[ebon plume]

im talking about soul

[summer glade]

I have it for my Series X runs perfect

[ember scaffold]

Most UE5 games got bad optimization on the pc

Like almost all of them

[normal echo]

kind of wish they'd stop using it tbh..... most UE5 games look too similar

[tight prism]

I remember when I was taking a class on UE, good times.

Had a lot of fun with it, better than Unity was.

[velvet dawn]

DW I got it, sarcasm doesn't hit the same through messages

[ember scaffold]

I guess it’s more expensive to create a game engine

Problem is most devs don’t even freaking bother to optimize it

[chilly shore]

Unreal Engine 5 has alot of issue

[ebon plume]

my point exactly thats marketing rushing the game

[normal echo]

easier to just let players brute force performance with higher end pcs than optimize

[ebon plume]

sucking the soul out of the game

[ember scaffold]

Anyway BF6, pls have magnifier sights

[ebon plume]

you mean streamers advertize the game so when i buy it it runs like ass but it doesnt matter

cuz i already got your money

[normal echo]

optimization I think is one of the reasons that BF6 was so well received on beta and getting so much hype... Lower end systems actually play the game well.... Hell, I'm below the min req for bf6 and well above the req for 2042 and bf6 beta ran significantly better on my system than 2042 does

[ember scaffold]

I always only play like 1- 1.5 hrs so I can refund if it’s truly not worth it

[normal echo]

Side note, need the 50xx series super cards to come out already, was hoping to buiild a new system before bf6 launched =/

[ember scaffold]

this year I already refunded:

Avowed
Mafia the Old Country
Borderlands 4

MGS Delta almost got refunded but oh well I love it

Only optimized UE5 game is Claire Obscure

[velvet dawn]

on steam it's 2 hours playtime max. but before that you can refund no questions asked.

[ember scaffold]

Yeah but usually I can gauge the game if it’s fun or worth it within the 1st hour or so

That’s why I think games should have playable demos at least

[normal echo]

tell me you don't like playing mmos without telling me you don't play mmos

[velvet dawn]

so it shouldn't be a problem since the game doesn't update through a launcher

[chilly shore]

AAA devs barely optimized their game that it would require a mod just to get it to work properly

[ember scaffold]

Only mmos I play are ESO and WoW

I also played FF14 but got bored later on

I tried Dune Awakening, refunded it

[normal echo]

ff14 is really good for the story.... but yeah it takes a LONG time to get there

[ember scaffold]

Yeah it is

ESO also kinda got boring now so I don’t play that much

[velvet dawn]

play an hour, max 1h 59min and refund if you don't like it. Steam doesn't care unless you refund once a week

[tight prism]

Steam will let you know once they start having enough of your requests(I had a bad string of awful game purchases and they eventually were like "hey now, this is not a demo service.")

[ember scaffold]

Yeah I only buy like 1-2 games a month unless I really like em anyway

Now we’ll see if Silent Hill f will be optimized or not

Then it’s another game that’s gonna get returned

Damn UE5 slop it makes me nervous when I buy em

[velvet dawn]

My friend got a message from steam saying that "our refund policy is not a free trial" but that was after he returned 7 games in 7 days

[spare socket]

armored core 6, newer yakuza games, monster hunter wilds, split fiction, it takes 2, hell divers 2, legend of zelda breath of the wild, legend of zelda tears of the kingdom, donkey kong bonanza, xenoblade chronicles x, street fighter 6, tekken 7/8, guilty gear strive, lies of P, senua hellblade 1/2, mario Odyssey, psychonauts 2, hi fi rush, prince of persia and the lost crown, ori and the will of the wisps, (early access souls like diablo game) no rest for the wicked, persona 5, shin megami tensei newer titles, metaphor rephantazio, returnal, sackboy, horizon forbidden west (this was aight imo), animal crossing new horizons, final fantasy 7 remake/rebirth (I do prefer the og tho), indiana jones and the great circle, uncharted 4, metroid dread, hogwarts legacy, ratchet and clank rift apart, super mario bros wonder, xenoblade chronicles 3, demon souls remake, half life alyx, tony hawk pro skater 1+2, bayonetta 3, plague tale 1+2, alan wake 2, metroid prime remastered, dead space remake, etc

I could still keep listing @ebon plume

[velvet dawn]

I think you're safe dude XD

[spare socket]

prior to dental school I was a fiend for media rarely ever used social media tbh

Books, movies, shows, games, and board games I could not get enough

[ember scaffold]

lol good thing i don’t refund that often tbh

[spare socket]

Unfortunately I am studying on my other monitor while on discord to maintain sanity

pretty much most of the time now

dental school is pain but I do love dentistry

[ember scaffold]

Wdym safe bro

I already experienced Silent Hill 2 remake’s launch performance

[spare socket]

might have repeated some games I tried avoiding to do so

[spare socket]

it's funny because that game could have easily loaded in less assets thanks to the fog but chose not to

for some reason

oh you're telling me the original version of this game had a visual asset to improve performance that added to the tone and vibe of hte original?

ehhh let's just put in there for the aesthetic but load all the assets for no reason on a UE5 game

[velvet dawn]

when it comes to refunds XD
better get used to playing on med graphics in modern videogames XDD

or low....

[spare socket]

why

[ember scaffold]

Yeah I guess

[spare socket]

I don't wish to question developers but man

[spare socket]

Sometimes I wonder why they ask to add more work for themselves for no reason

You literally have a fog vfx element fully obscuring the assets lagging your game to kingdom come and it chooses to have all of them textured and loaded in perfectly on a UE5 game with lumen/nanite

[velvet dawn]

Don't worry, we're fucked when it comes to optimization XD

[spare socket]

the fact the finals is one of the few best optimized UE5 games is because it realized: oh wait... we can use UE5 as a physics engine and like....

NOT use the lumen/nanite features to cut corners??? CRAZY

[grizzled dock]

I signed up for the play-test but I haven’t received follow up email after the RSVP.

[spare socket]

I don't really blame devs that try to use UE5 it's just epic's marketing scheme being a lie

[velvet dawn]

Okay. Are we really done talking about the movement changes? ladders? mortars? something? anything?

[spare socket]

and them realizing years into development that: oh wait the lumen/nanite on this engine is dog water

[velvet dawn]

no mastur-debaters?

[spare socket]

"You add one hammer that levels a building in 4 swings: nobody panics
You remove one GPNVG-18 night vision goggles from a skin in a bundle of skins costing 20 dollars: Everybody loses their minds"
-jonkler

[ember scaffold]

Oh yeah that game is peak 🔥

[spare socket]

Ye. It's great. Unfortunately it was one of the last comp games I played and I quit comp games forever

[ember scaffold]

Marvel Rivals as well

[spare socket]

The grind is not sustainable with dentistry's work life balance

[ember scaffold]

It’s funny that free UE5 games are more optimized than paid UE5 games 💀

[velvet dawn]

2 swings* XD
what have I missed? which bundle is that expensive when the game is not even out yet

[spare socket]

I have the immense urge to push max rank each season and doing it...

But in retrospect that grind felt kinda hollow compared to the many indie and singleplayer games I've played also the more casual mp games frankly

[spare socket]

it's in the phantom edition one moment

[spare socket]

https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-general-discussion-en/the-modification-of-the-phantom-skin-is-frustrating/12579378

[velvet dawn]

Oh they deleted those goggles

[ember scaffold]

No magnifier sights will be the last straw

[velvet dawn]

Okay that's kinda cool tho

[spare socket]

I actually like the changes besides the assault tbh

[ember scaffold]

Now they look like Pax Armata

[spare socket]

GPNVG-18 night vision goggles have immense aura

if you see someone with those irl approaching you:
run

[velvet dawn]

I don't see anything wrong between any of them, compared to the previous

[late folio]

At night maybe. If I see them during the day ill say thanks for the luxury sports car.

[spare socket]

the assault change is what has people angry.

I actually like the reduction of the red tint

[spare socket]

true.

it's funny that those goggles are worth 50 grand irl

My buddy actually owns a pair

[late folio]

As they get clapped by an sks

[velvet dawn]

they all have a reduction tho, no more color in the gloves, in the camo or the gear thay wear.
Kinda prefer it this way

[spare socket]

Yeah I like it being more black it actually looks dope imo. My main gripe is the removal of the GPNVG-18.

Straight up anyone wearing those is special forces (given it's not realistic for said units to be in a battlefield game imma be real with you)

but it stretches the term "grounded" to a degree i'm fine with

[late folio]

I would rather see the dual tubes first before I see skins with quads

[spare socket]

it's not goofy nonsense

[spare socket]

they would likely release dual tube skins post launch tbh. The quad skin being a phantom edition exclusive is what had some people buying it

the far left and right optic also isn't something you exactly look out of those lenses are tailored to increase field of vision

like you straight up have practically normal FOV with those on

unlike regular goggles that outright tunnel vision your sight

[late folio]

I didn't care for the quads since they look like they are down permanently. I would prefer if they were up.

[spare socket]

that's fair you don't really use those in the day. it's silly to

again tho. Those night vision goggles are basically as far as I would stretch the term "grounded" in bf

[velvet dawn]

I see where you're coming from. but I think the devs want to keep it... wait for it... "grounded, for now." So they don't want everyone to run in 40K€ GPNVGS'. Maybe this is the time they're thinking about realism, for a bit.

[spare socket]

personally but eh idrc it's a cosmetic

[spare socket]

yeah... something something launch PR

the person steering the BF6 boat is one of the best game leads in the entire shooter industry

[velvet dawn]

excatly XD

[spare socket]

I can see why he made that decision.

The man, myth, and legend Vince Zampella

[velvet dawn]

the man, myth, the legend, to ease us into more pre-orders

[spare socket]

honestly legit the only reason I have hope this game will be good

[spare socket]

he's one of the last developers with an actual position of merit in the industry from an older era of game developers

[velvet dawn]

Yeah I can see that. but I can also see his 20 year old wallet running dry

[spare socket]

He's got enough of a wallet trust me. He also cares about his games and projects first and foremost.

Hell he cares about his team members even more

The last time a studio spited his dev team he kinda railed them, to say the least.

[velvet dawn]

okay I'll trust you, mr Labubu I met couple hours ago XD

[spare socket]

I could detail the story of the fella if you wish

[velvet dawn]

DW I have wikipedia my man

[spare socket]

I think I already did it before I can just message link it

[spare socket]

imma be real that might not include some details with more focus while overdetailing things that you don't really need to care about much

there's a lot of legal drama behind that fella because he has in fact pissed off activision and EA a fair amount (more so the former) that it would flood a good chunk of his wiki portfolio

[merry dove]

Dude's so based for it holy

[spare socket]

#general message if you're interested here's a snap shot of his time in the industry

[velvet dawn]

I don't doubt you or that man's achievements at all. just saying... EA can pay

Okay wtf. I didn't read well enough

[ember scaffold]

You’re both cute Labubus to me tbh

[velvet dawn]

HOLY WHAT A CHAD

[spare socket]

Vince Zampella (lead of bf6) made:
medal of honor allied assault
titanfall 1-2
the jedi games
apex legends (at launch, he was removed from the project after launch)
And BF portal for 2042 (only portal)

founded COD as a franchise and made every COD title up until MW2 2009 where he was fired for giving his devs a side job at EA working on Battlefield Bad Company 2. Bad company 2 had industry veterans from Activision and EA at the time.

He did this because his devs were not given bonuses for MW2 despite the fact every prior cod game had given bonuses to its devs. He was fired and sued by activision in a legal case that lasted 1-2 ish years.

after being fired bro said screw you and made respawn. All of the veterans behind COD loyal to Vince and Jason west (his partner until he retired) and made respawn entertainment

Unfortunately post 2022 respawn is getting railed since their bonus contract ran out allowing EA to milk them

[spare socket]

full details in this message link here

[ember scaffold]

Yup very impressive portfolio

Also he didn’t make any bad game which is awesome as well

[spare socket]

Fr

He also brought his core staff from respawn to help bf6 with dice LA as the head studio directing main dice for bf6

[velvet dawn]

Got it. Allied Assault was enough for me but holy shit. That man has been a thorn in publishers' ass XD

[nova axle]

So long story short the guy actually gave af about the product he put out along with his team

[spare socket]

It's basically industry veterans that have been working since allied assault leading the development of this game

[velvet dawn]

jesus

[spare socket]

Genuinely the only reason I have slight faith in this title (i'm a nerd that likes looking at news)

[velvet dawn]

I sure as shit hope he can keep the modern publishers in check too

[spare socket]

The only way BF6 could screw itself up imo is if EA gets greedy and forcibly distances Vince and his team away from BF6 to implement scummy business practices (they basically did this for apex legends... so it's not out of the picture)

post launch is the real concern I have for this game.

[spare socket]

His ability to keep them in check is: trust me bro I got this (unironically)

His portfolio speaks for itself

It's funny because the game lead for the last BF game (2042) was a game lead whose most significant game at the time was candy crush mobile

[knotty grotto]

Meanwhile mark rubin who was also involved in infinityward went ahead and joined ubi only to get layed off to

Acti is very funny

[spare socket]

yeah most veteran staff from the older era of gaming have either retired, moved to making AA titles, or are in limbo around the industry

[velvet dawn]

𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕪𝕠𝕦'𝕣𝕖 𝕠𝕦𝕣 𝕍𝕚𝕓𝕣𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕣 𝕚𝕟 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕤𝕜𝕪 <3

[knotty grotto]

Get mark on bf6🗣️

[spare socket]

there are few with actual significant positions like vince and his team

[eager tapir]

is it still possible to participate in the test for BF6?

[ember scaffold]

Yeah sign up to BF Labs. Good luck

[knotty grotto]

Devs that left ubi cuz they were creativily bankrupt created their own studio and their first game was a massive hit

[spare socket]

What's funny is I've had this username on multiple other platoforms for 10 years and on discord for like 7-8.

First it was "is your name a refernce to da baby"
Then it was "is your name a reference to the star wars character babu frick"
Now it's "labubu"

Babu just means young friend in Telugu (a regional language in South India)

[knotty grotto]

Those veteran cod devs should unite and create their own studio, i would like to see what they can do and piss off the industry

[spare socket]

the majority of devs on expedition 33 aren't ubi but a lot of the vision leads are and they hired a bunch of industry veterans across the industry due to their connections

[knotty grotto]

Just like the ex ubi employees did

[velvet dawn]

Been looking at the Labs channel and I don't think they're accepting new players anymore

[spare socket]

there were like 3-4 devs from ubi on expedition 33 if I recall

they just had the right connections

[knotty grotto]

Were there also juniors?

[ember scaffold]

Claire Obscure: Expedition 33 is awesome

And also another ex-Ubi devs are Red Barrels, which ofc made the Outlast games, and now they got a movie deal with Lionsgate

[spare socket]

You wanna know something funny

[knotty grotto]

Wait outlast was also ex ubi???

Theyre getting so roasted

[velvet dawn]

no. but please, tell us anyway

[crude elbow]

Any1 else having trouble to activate code through ps store in europe? It gives me error that my region/country is ”restricted”. And yes, I have filled that I live in europe

[ember scaffold]

AC Hexe is their last chance

[spare socket]

The person who said "if you don't like it don't buy it" for bf5 was a developer who was largely frustrated with the issues behind bf5's development and how execs kinda harmed that game a bit. After execs had certain demands for 2042 he and a bunch of veterans at DICE left and made the finals (some others left to make other projects)

[rain fossil]

Good Morning. Hey. Can someone help me? I'm new to Labs and got a key. However, it shows me in Playstation that it is invalid or expired.

[knotty grotto]

O ye embark also

[ember scaffold]

Oh awesome

But tbf he’s right tho

[velvet dawn]

Huh? that wasn't the CEO?

[spare socket]

Like he was just frustrated and being sincere and everyone was hating on him

[eager tapir]

Awww damn, that suckss

[ember scaffold]

Well with that sentence alone there’s nothing wrong with it

[knotty grotto]

Meanwhile hollowknight went crazy

There is def a shift in the industry

[spare socket]

Patrick Söderlund was an executive vice president at EA who worked at dice. He got a lil annoyed with his peers and left.

He was an executive but he also worked game development on the side.

[crude elbow]

I’ll send u PM

[spare socket]

he just liked gaming enough to be like: yk... maybe I don't have to be an exec anymore

[eager tapir]

this might be a hot take but i find it hilarious when content creators are complaining about the new mechanics of BF6

[spare socket]

and left to make the finals with veteran staff at DICE who also wanted out.

[velvet dawn]

Goddamn XD Sounds Swedish enough so I'll trust you on this one XD

[spare socket]

tbf I do feel that the hammer being a melee weapon anyone can equip over the knife that can level a whole building in like 4-5 swings needs some adjustments

it's a lil silly

[eager tapir]

wasn't one of those guys working with COD and now is the head for BF6?

[ember scaffold]

Well if it’s not a Battlefield content creator their opinions don’t matter much

But for BF veterans I think it’s ok to hear their side on why they dislike the changes

[spare socket]

no completely different group (I actually just talked about this lmao)

[knotty grotto]

Waiting for ‘expedition 32’ announcement

[alpine cove]

i buyed now battlefield 6 and cod black ops 7 xdd

[spare socket]

@eager tapir for you

[knotty grotto]

Jackfrags

[eager tapir]

I agreee with you 100%

[ember scaffold]

Same

Only broke mfs hate it

[alpine cove]

xd

[eager tapir]

Yeahhhh, that's the dude!

[velvet dawn]

They're mostly complaining that the game is removing CoD mechanics because their Base players don't like them. Which is good. A game for everyone is a game for no one.

[spare socket]

Aight I gtg to bed tbh. Gn. Ciao for a now.

[velvet dawn]

Cya

[versed rock]

Has DICE decided to rebrand ‘portal’ as ‘community servers’

[eager tapir]

i love the helldivers ref

[alpine cove]

They cry but they would like to play these games.

[ember scaffold]

They can for “free” tbh

[alpine cove]

ahah

[velvet dawn]

man wasn't talking shit XD

[ember scaffold]

Just need to subscribe yup

[eager tapir]

But you are right about that, and it's hilarious!

[eager tapir]

Lmao, i know i just like that he used that sentence

[rain fossil]

Can someone tell me if the beta client is the same as the labs client?

[frozen thorn]

No

[rain fossil]

Then I really have a problem. Because my key doesn't work. Expired or wrong

[ember scaffold]

Is it for the beta

Beta is over so it won’t be valid anymore I guess

[molten flint]

The open beta period is no longer running, so I don’t think people would be able to activate new codes

[rain fossil]

No. I got the key from Labs

[velvet dawn]

We had two casual MP shooters to begin with, back in the day. One for small maps, fast movement and gunplay, that was CoD series.
other had Huge maps, vehicles, sandbox elements and class based balance, this was BF.
I'm not here to ragebait but I think the devs and publishers should keep the game series' roots in mind

[ember scaffold]

Hmm maybe the allotted period for that particular code is over?

[molten flint]

Yeah, but even Battlefield Labs access isn’t available either, as far as I understand it. I’ve been a part of battlefield labs for a couple months, but my understanding is that they’re not doing any more beta testings

[molten flint]

The beta period had smaller maps, but there are more larger “Battlefield”-esque maps

I haven’t checked out the videos about the bigger maps, but the couple vids I’ve seen on YouTube were of BF6’s Operation Firestorm from BF3

[void crow]

They keep the same way as it was for bf3/4 with some cqc maps (but better than metro), mid maps as there was in bf2 (karkand in mind), and large maps from all the games in the séries (seems miraak and firestorm will have bf vibes in their feeling). So they do a good work and hope they'll continue to release all kind of maps (mostly prefer mid/large) that will entertain us for 3 to 5 years.

[eager tapir]

Alrighty muchachos imma go to beddd, have a goodnight!

[molten flint]

Take care 🫡

[ember scaffold]

Good night 👋

[rain fossil]

Now it says that the code is not available for my region. I come from Germany and have also registered

[sharp sigil]

Just take the loss and move on

[velvet dawn]

Yeah I've seen the bigger maps.
But I can't help but to think that when the majority of maps are way smaller than we got used to in older games.
The company behind this is only concerned about grabbing the playerbase of the best selling series (CoD) and trying to insert all of them into this "next best thing." Not thinking or caring about their genuine fans.

But, and that's a thicc butt. the team so far have also done alot of good things too

[ripe thorn]

The map selection sizes are almost identical to BF3.

Ya'll got rose tinted glasses

[velvet dawn]

might just be the movement speed then. because the maps feel way smaller than they used to

[scenic badge]

Aint bf6's movement speed slower than bf3's?

[tawny snow]

Will Battle Royale be present only on BF6?

[frozen thorn]

Ill say again, my theory for Liberation Peak was that it was a medium map retooled to be a large map. Hence why so far its the only large map with no airstrips for jets. The map size would be a lot bigger in theory if the mountain in the middle wasnt there and it wasnt a bunch of cliffs surrounding walking paths

[ripe thorn]

BF3's beta was on operation metro. They didn't even let people play on a vehicle map during the beta for that game

[frozen thorn]

[velvet dawn]

Liberation Peak felt purpose-built. I think it has always been as it should be.

[ripe thorn]

BF4 siege of shanghai was around liberation Peak size and didn't have jets in it. That was the only map available in that game's beta.

Basically I'm just saying that they have a history of putting smaller maps in the beta for their games. They save the bigger maps for launch always

[frozen thorn]

The flag nearest to Pax spawn was a literal fotress with snipers controlling the 3/5ths of the map in their line of sight. NATO could only see the ass end of C flag from the nearest flag to their spawn

[velvet dawn]

maybe as the distances show up on hud/objectives. but the general movement speed is so much faster that you go through those meters way faster, especially not that we have tactical sprint

[ripe thorn]

Oh and even 2042 put their smallest map in the beta lol and that game had nothing but huge maps 🤣

[velvet dawn]

I see that. Definitely needs some balance either way, either the closest flag to NATO spawn need more fortification or the PAX spawn needs less off it.

[frozen thorn]

Aside from Mirak Valley, Sobek, and Firestorm , I cant say that Im excited for the other vanilla maps.

[ripe thorn]

Manhattan bridge is my most anticipated map

[frozen thorn]

I didnt play Rush on that map, but that flag looks great for it. Cant say much about the rest

[tidal moth]

Is there any Time announced on october 10th release day? Wondering bcs i want to put a vacation day on release day so people speculate 17:00cest or 10:00cest friday ...

[nova axle]

If portal is anything like halo reach forge we just make our own maps.

[velvet dawn]

There's still the rumor that the whole game was meant to be a BR or extraction shooter. Knowing that you start to see a reason for all those open spaces XD

[frozen thorn]

Im looking forward to seeing what it is. From what Ive heard, it has the most if not only verticality in the vanilla maps

[frozen thorn]

Its in the morning in the US

[ripe thorn]

Yeah pretty sure they pivoted away from BR last minute

[glad belfry]

It's 6pm to 10pm in UK

[tidal moth]

is it confirmed somewhere? Chatgpt doesnt find any official time yet

[ripe thorn]

I saw a screenshot where someone zoomed into the trailer and it shows people on the rooftops of those huge buildings so that should be fun 🔥

[velvet dawn]

Rush was fine tbh, really close games on my part but in conquest I could see how the closed nature of PAX spawn was a little questionable

[frozen thorn]

Im starting to wonder if Saints Quarter will be the new Metro/Locker. It being an infantry only map and with lack of footage makes me think they might be hiding it for now to not cause a stir

[glad belfry]

I got an email with the confirmed times

[tidal moth]

Glad im done with the 2042 battlepass, BF6 looks so good on these new gameplay test videos. Ooof

[tidal moth]

can u DM me it by chance?

[frozen thorn]

If anything Im more excited for the season 1 Cali themed maps

[tidal moth]

if it releases friday after 16:00 cest i will just take monday/tuesday off, bcs done with work after 4pm anyway

🎉

[velvet dawn]

yeah. it's kind of a shame to see that they're pivoting more the opposite now

[tidal moth]

I dont care about BR, but Battlefield BR looks like it would slap ngl

[limpid lance]

Bought

[ripe thorn]

Yeah since its set in same country itll probably be similar to iberian with all the narrow streets and stuff. So that does sound like it's own version of metro

[chilly shore]

I really wanna see Manhattan bridge as a battleground

[frozen thorn]

I find it doubtful that the bridge itself will be more than a set piece

[ripe thorn]

Surely we can go there in portal

Portal teaser makes it look like you can go far out of bounds and still make a playspace there

[frozen thorn]

You can even add jets to the Manhattan Bridge map

[ripe thorn]

Omg I never even thought about that

Wrong reply.....

Wrong person lol

[ripe thorn]

Take 2 : omg I never even thought about that

[frozen thorn]

And Empire State too

[ripe thorn]

Dawnbreaker 2.0 in manhattan about to be made with jets? 👀

[frozen thorn]

"Sir, weve received reports that a 2nd flying vehicle type has just been added to the New York based maps"

[ripe thorn]

What about the infantry maps? Can they get jets too 🤣

Would be interesting to see jets on Cairo and iberian at least

[frozen thorn]

Youre really taking the fun out of this

Someone will understand

[ripe thorn]

Huh?

[frozen thorn]

JokerYouWouldntGetIt.mp4

[ripe thorn]

[ember scaffold]

Would be nice to have F35 for NATO

Pax Armata could have the Harrier II

[ripe thorn]

Oh I think I get it. The fun out of this is from joker too

I think

[frozen thorn]

I say yes for the fact that the best jet pilots will do fly buys in the hover mode and I can just shoot them with an RPG

[ripe thorn]

Cue 2 hours later spongebob Gif to me maybe figuring out the joke when everybody's already packed up and left 😅

[ember scaffold]

Yeah and some the maps are more ideal for hover mode as well

[eager fulcrum]

Are y'all preordering

[cloud maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldcs0q_hnxU

jets are fine for release, maybe we get some more late

[ember scaffold]

Yeah it’s fine for launch but a few more for the post launch seasons would be awesome

Like a-10s and F-35s

[cloud maple]

I'm afraid that the A10 would end up like in 2042 when it's just slow and those fighters will circle you 10 times 😄 but yeah, you're right, I love those fighters so much.

[ember scaffold]

Yeah but it’s inevitable

Because that will happen irl anyway

[cloud maple]

yes I know, they are just older machines 😄 but still loved 😄

[ember scaffold]

More like different roles but yeah that as well

[frozen thorn]

I was never a jet user, but its impressive to see them add more mobility to jets and seeing them drift middair

[ember scaffold]

As they should but yeah

Some jets should definitely excel in maneuveribility especially modern ones

[frozen thorn]

Jet players and I have an unspoken agreement. They leave me alone when Im running out in the open, and in return I dont equip the stinger/strela when I respawn

[ember scaffold]

Tbh i only get killed by jets in objective areas

That C in Lib peak conquest is a common target 💀

[wicked cargo]

Does anyone know if our settings from the beta will carry over to the full launch of BF6?

[frozen thorn]

I was only killed by a jet once and it was there

[grave kayak]

Hola

[ember scaffold]

Yeah it’s a very contested area most of the time

Ngl it’s fun putting assault beacon and spamming to either defend or attack it 💀

[frozen thorn]

Its been years since Ive played BF and had no clue they added bombs back in for planes so I was wondering what the fuck that was

[acoustic plume]

Doubt it

[ember scaffold]

Nothing will carry over except the rewards

[frozen thorn]

It was such a pain trying to defend and hold it from PAX attackers, they had that hill with sniper backing them up any time it peak outside of that rock

Did I also mention every single time I played Lib Peak I was NATO?

[ember scaffold]

It’s easier when you got assault beacon and players blocking all possible paths and putting mines and having medics and engineers to take care of tank and infantry assaults and aerial bombardment

It’s actually harder to attack it than defend it, if your team is capable and know their roles and the area you can hold it forever

[frozen thorn]

That sounds like work. Id just grab a jeep and drive up and down the out of bounds line by the river to pass the time in game

[ember scaffold]

Well I only did the work because of the beta challenges tbh

I got the CQB kills with ARs in that C objective in like 2 matches

[frozen thorn]

I was busy both weekends, only managed to get to lvl 13 and got maybe 2 other challenges done.

[frozen thorn]

People really out here getting positive K/D's huh

[ember scaffold]

Good thing I’m not so I get to finish all of the challenges

It’s fun but some can be tedious

[ember scaffold]

Only in that specific area of Lib Peak tb

I died a lot of times too especially against the snipers and tanks 💀

[ripe thorn]

DICE producer Jeremy Chubb about the return of Levolution: "We put the crane in, it’s always tempting and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a return to some of the bigger scale in the future.”

[ember scaffold]

Manhattan bridge collapse pls

[ripe thorn]

Lol one of the other devs said they'll never add it back because it's boring after the first few times ........apparently

[ember scaffold]

Flyover collapse for Cairo

[frozen thorn]

Something should be done about that.

Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to #general tomorrow.

[ember scaffold]

Why tho

[frozen thorn]

If the mods see this, I am only memeing

[ripe thorn]

The devs reasoning that it gets boring after a while is silly. Why add a scripted apartment collapse on Cairo, iberian and empire state then in that case?

[ember scaffold]

I got it but you need to more than a backpack to take care of #general

[ember scaffold]

Tbh I thought they’re just dynamic

[ripe thorn]

Huge scripted events add more depth to the matches. The same way a scripted apartment crumbling down does as does shanghai tower falling or flood zone flooding.

[frozen thorn]

The worst levolution was when it limited visibility. Sandstorms and dust clouds suck. On a few maps levolution was good and made sense. Other times it was just meh

[ember scaffold]

Manhattan bridge collapse will be immersive

Maybe we can damage the pyramids as well but I dunno

Looks like what Pax Armata will do anyway

[ripe thorn]

Nothing wrong with knowing what will happen after the first time. It's just more going on. Scripted or not scripted it's more stuff happening to add a sense of liveliness to the map

[frozen thorn]

They turn into UFOs and fly away

[ember scaffold]

I thought they were giant toblerones ngl

[iron bridge]

The Lion is here.

[frozen thorn]

People also didnt like what it would do to the layout of the maps too

[frozen thorn]

With that sandstorm in the background it may as well be

[ripe thorn]

I mean there's always pros and cons I guess

[ember scaffold]

Hopefully we get such weather effects ingame

Snowstorm in Lib peak would be amazing

[frozen thorn]

I still find it strange that the map they used in their trailers is what we know least about. We know more about season 1 than vanilla maps

[knotty grotto]

Giant samdstorm that limits view distance

[rocky shard]

shotguns for everyone!

[knotty grotto]

Helldivers already has this (although its 3rd person)

[craggy blade]

hey guys somoone get this early access code on twitch?

[lucid lodge]

how can i play guys

[ripe thorn]

Maybe that's why they did the rocket in 2042. Cos it didn't affect the map at all. It was just something to look at

[ember scaffold]

Bayonets, knives, and sledgehammers as well

[lucid lodge]

needs invite ?

[normal echo]

Weather would be nice, but I'd also be satisfied with just night time variants of maps

[frozen thorn]

More rain maps tbh. Need that Paracel Storm and Grand Bzaar vibe. Also Lost Islands had a cool wind affect with the trees

[ember scaffold]

Yup same

[rocky shard]

and the endless stream of people shouting cheater 'he can see through sand'

[knotty grotto]

Nvg equipment

[ember scaffold]

Oh yup would be great

Then add mud effects as well

[knotty grotto]

Mw2019 did this for mp, i think cod remastered to?

[ripe thorn]

Ooh forgot about lost island trees blowing around. BF4 had it all

[lucid lodge]

i can't play with someone?

[frozen thorn]

Theres background stuff on Iberian Offensive like an ongoing war

That map also brought back hills on fire

[normal echo]

honestly the first few weeks at least, there will be so many new people who don't know their head from their backside that will get ego bruised and call hacks, on people who just perform well because they actually have a squad that rezzes constantly

[ripe thorn]

I saw Mud and blood stains on weapons in some of the gameplay vids of mirak and firestorm

[ember scaffold]

The Iberian offensive is like set in Gibraltar so maybe we can have some naval stuff

Maybe Manhattan bridge as well

[frozen thorn]

Operation Firestorm? Hills on fire.
Caspian Border? Hills on fire.
Kharg Island? Yep, hills on fire.

[ember scaffold]

Oh yup that’s actually great

Not even CoD have done that iirc

[normal echo]

....we still have like 20 days -.-

[frozen thorn]

Naval Strike 2 would be great

[ripe thorn]

Also saw they added the actual zip thing to your body when you attach to a zip line. In the beta there was just nothing attached lol

[normal echo]

feel like tehy did open beta too soon.... all hyped up to play and game still weeks out

[ember scaffold]

Yup set in Mediterranean and/or Atlantic

[wanton bane]

hey guys i’m really new to play testing , will battlefield tell us when we can talk about it if and when people get accepted ?

[ripe thorn]

Wonder if we'll be able to add water to maps in portal

[ember scaffold]

Yeah I wish the beta was 1 month later, at least 1 month before the games launch

Like what CoD typically does

[frozen thorn]

Theres game keys for BF4 for like $5 to hold you over

[normal echo]

I spent $3 on 2042.... and I refuse to be jebaited again

[ember scaffold]

BF4 is actually great so no bait

[wanton bane]

john do you know a answer for my question?

[frozen thorn]

To be fair 2042 is a terrible game

[ripe thorn]

Beta typically aren't there to fix anything before launch. This is one of those rare times where they wanted to release it a bit further from launch so they actually had some time to make meaningful changes before launch unlike that 2042 disaster

They actually did what a beta was supposed to do which is awesome

[frozen thorn]

If they dropped a 3rd beta weekend right before launch, I think people would lose their minds

[wanton bane]

can anyone answer my question lol

[frozen thorn]

Maybe

[ripe thorn]

Sup?

[normal echo]

not my mind, just significant quantities of sleep

[ripe thorn]

You can say that you're part of the playtest but that's it. You're not allowed to talk about anything else to do with it. Use #battlefield-labs-discussion to see more info

[frozen thorn]

I was watching an old BF3 youtuber I used to watch a lifetime ago and I found some methods to mess with people that have probably not been done in a long time. I want to show tank kills with shotguns and grenades on the kill feeds like the old days

[wanton bane]

is the [e-mail] the actual email for support and questions @ripe thorn

[ember scaffold]

You guys are likely subject to NDA so you can’t discuss BF Labs stuff until bf6 launch

[wanton bane]

okay thank you

[orchid orchid]

Pc upgraded. Im ready boys for BF6

[iron bridge]

Now you can't blame the pc for holding you back

[orchid orchid]

Yeah, sadly.

[sour copper]

I've never lost a game legit. Only to cheaters.

My record is flawless.

[wanton bane]

are the devs the people with dice in their bio tags?

[orchid orchid]

lost only the games where you join and map ends before you even deploy

[willow lance]

BF also had fast movement and gunplay

[hexed moth]

3 weeks to go and I’ve a week booked off for this momentous occasion.

[dark owl]

only a day off for me, but that's ok

I'm starving for a decent fps game for a while

[blazing moon]

Let’s just hope the game doesn’t break on day 1 lmao

[plush lichen]

Are we all gonna be able to play in 4min 21 seconds?

Lol

[blazing moon]

Bruh fym

[plush lichen]

?

What does fym mean?

[blazing moon]

It means fuck you mean lmao

I’m confused as to what you meant in that message lmao

[plush lichen]

Im in the lobby right now mines available in 2min 21s

[blazing moon]

You in labs?

[plush lichen]

Battle royal quads

Yeah

Through steam

[blazing moon]

Ahhh that makes sense now lol

[plush lichen]

Prob like last week, we were playing on the European servers i think

I wanted to get a team of 4 together if there was anyone on

Started!!! Look me up anyone "jersey johnny "

[worn marten]

Ah, I love the smell of movement discussions in the morning

Right next to the smell of bacon

[solemn wigeon]

is it possible to create more possibility's to create clans in the game ? so people could organize clan wars against other teams ?. i also miss the clan tag in the game.

[acoustic plume]

In battlefield they are called Platoons. Let's hope we have an option

[frank dust]

1,873,326 seconds remaining until Battlefield 6

[dark owl]

time is running

[frank dust]

Looking forward to sub 1 million

[devout frigate]

is that for october 7?

[frank dust]

Leave the counting to me bub

[foggy sparrow]

Should we start sending people to hackers house

To ofc politely ask them to stop

[foggy sparrow]

No me I’m basically a human calculator

[frank dust]

ffs this is literally my job

[cobalt raven]

How much does your job pay? Looking to change careers lol

[frank dust]

probono

[mint fern]

should i beg to the devs at dice to bring back night operations?

And give us nvgs to use in night maps?

Like seriously i think it'd be cool

[worn marten]

If you want night maps why bother with nvgs

[mint fern]

Maybe i like the tactical feel

Maybe i just wanna say "bravo six going dark"

Who knows

[cloud maple]

It's a shame that we won't get the dreadnoughts from Bf1 back 😄 as such a help to the team with AC-130 wouldn't be bad 😄 😄 😄

[mint fern]

Honestly a juggernaut style kit with an lmg would go hard

[worn marten]

been noticing some of the subtle changes they've made to the game in this new creator footage, can definitely see they are rounding off the edges

[sharp sigil]

Fuck that lol

[cloud maple]

They had a good system for the squads and overall support for the team, in BF1 it was the dreadnought and in BF V it was the tanks and V2 that the squad could call, for me it was great because the squad then had a purpose other than just being on the screen at the end of the game.

[mint fern]

Nah nah it'd be nerfed of course but it'd tank damage to a decent amount. You wouldn't be able to like ads, run ect. But you can hip fire and crouch lmao

[sharp sigil]

It would be cool. I'd just hate running into him. Run around a corner and your staring at iron man lol

[mint fern]

The edits would go hard bro

[worn marten]

oh they've got smoke from jet barrels now? niiice

[mint fern]

Just be glad its not a jug with heavy armor, and a frag round saiga 12 or whatever the shotgun is called

[cloud maple]

juggernaut was already in BF1, and it worked well, I just don't know how it would be in the new era where you have completely different weapons 😄

[mint fern]

I would say minigun but thats some cod shit, honestly something like bf1 using a mg works just fine

[sharp sigil]

I just looked it up. He looks awesome haha

Almost looks medieval

[cloud maple]

like yes, but it was fun to play for them in multiplayer and single player 😄 you always enjoyed it 😄

[echo iris]

yeah but with the BR releasing sooner than cod even releases it'll bring those BR guys in

[foggy sparrow]

I’m a pro human calculator. I was so good I competed in a calculator contest to test out who’s calculator was best and still won without one

Ask me any math question

[frank dust]

clears throat

[foggy sparrow]

Ask it

Do it

[white moss]

???
Profit

[frank dust]

one sec im counting something

[foggy sparrow]

Bro needs to make sure he can do it

[frank dust]

1,870,600 seconds remaining until Battlefield 6

[echo iris]

Im just happy scope glint isn't brighter than the sun anymore

[white moss]

I'm also happy thank you button comes back

[vestal spoke]

So stoked for it

[foggy sparrow]

So if you just count to 1,870,000 and make sure each is a second you’ll be at the game

[worn marten]

back? When was it in before? I can't say i've seen it before

[white moss]

Well 2042. Was one of the options like mor ammo and such

[worn marten]

in the commorose menu, but I've never seen the 'quick thank' option before

[echo iris]

Also with suppressors not effecting damage and bullet velocity is nice.

[jagged hatch]

I see a lot of whining about movement nerds. This is BF, a shooter that stands out from the rest because of things like this. Movement is fine the way it's set. Soldiers don't walk around the battlefield constantly jumping or doing stupid things. Stop criticizing and play as a team in this game. The way 2042 is right now is disgusting.

[echo iris]

movement is still faster than bf4 as well

[white moss]

Honestly it should have. Otherwise there is 0 reason now not to run it

[worn marten]

most people, like myself, do just want battlefield to stay as it is

Which means having some movement

[willow lance]

BF4 objectively had faster movement

And better movement

[jagged hatch]

and yet they still complain

[vestal spoke]

Tbh BF players complain about the most minute things lol

[dark owl]

the important thing is to complain just for the sake of complaining, it alleviates the tensions of routine

[worn marten]

I wouldn't say movement is minute thing, it's so fundamental to how the game plays that it's worth discussing

[echo iris]

yeah but suppressors isn't keeping you totally stealthy anymore, no more quiet whispers when you shoot and you still show up on mini map up to probably 15 meters or more and its expensive on loadout points

[foggy sparrow]

Stands out idk man. It’s eerily similar to cod…

[ebon bolt]

yoo guys what is your opinion on the new operation firestorm layout?

[foggy sparrow]

Cap

Physically the movement speed might be faster but the abilities in battlefield 6 is just overall faster paced

Battlefield 4 movement was much more realistic

[willow lance]

Nah, BF4 also had faster ADS speed

133ms for almost every weapon type

[dark owl]

yep

[ebon bolt]

it wasnt bro

[foggy sparrow]

ads maybe but movement speed

[worn marten]

you know exactly what people are going to tell you when you say this

[ebon bolt]

i just played last night you can air strafe while jumping

[echo iris]

I just remember it being easier to snipe someone moving in the head easier in BF4 than the beta and such

[dark owl]

BF4 is a pretty fast paced game overall

[ebon bolt]

i dont think that you can do that in real life

[willow lance]

Most players don't know BF4 had better movement than COD at their time too 🤫 Ghosts and BF4 movement is incomparable. BFV and WW2 movement is incomparable. Now BF dads wants to ruin movement and pretend it never existed

[dark owl]

and I actually see that as a good thing tbh

[acoustic plume]

Gonna hit max rank before switching to bf6

[foggy sparrow]

How so… so running isn’t realistic but jumping through windows doing rolls with 30-50+ pounds of gear on is more realistic??? Make that make sense

One time sure 100 times in one match with zero repercussions no

[ebon bolt]

bf4 had op jumping it wasnt realistic though

[foggy sparrow]

Probably the snipers are trash in bf6 tbf

[acoustic plume]

But it got the people going

[distant pendant]

The lion does not concern himself with people who don't know rouzou's and vouzou's

[foggy sparrow]

Not even. Op jumping would be like og cod

[dark owl]

the main difference that I can feel while playing BF6 related to 4 is the effects of suppression

[foggy sparrow]

Now your just speaking gibberish

[echo iris]

yeah on average the Bullet velocity seems slow af

[ebon bolt]

it even breaks the hitbox while you jump

[foggy sparrow]

4 had much better suppression fr

[worn marten]

I don't think they are even trying to say X game is more realistic, you've just put that on

[ebon bolt]

do you even guys play the older games? or you just remember from nostalgia

[dark owl]

BF6's suppression is just a visual thing and I think it slows your healing time, BF4 suppression affects bloom and such

[foggy sparrow]

Welp it went there so. Either way the movement in bf6 makes no sense but it’s still fun

[foggy sparrow]

Uh yea actually

[dark owl]

idk if I can say that one of another is "better", it's different

[worn marten]

and that's what matters

[ebon bolt]

bf6 movement is better the only need to nerf the momentum from sliding to jump

[foggy sparrow]

I feel good suppression is the one that don’t hold you back physically but it mentally makes you scared or run. Like when being shot at I like that it shakes the screen and dust everywhere and muzzle flash that’s real

[distant pendant]

let me introduce you to bf4 movement tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzysYT7ogYQ

[willow lance]

Nerfs to the health regen is unnecessary in the last creator event, they should revert back that to beta tbh, otherwise we will get a repeat of BF4 meta with everyone using medic to combat slow health regen

[foggy sparrow]

They don’t say the same for Omni movement the most realistic of all ofc

[ebon bolt]

cod fan?

[foggy sparrow]

Eh not really it’s supposed to be an immersed shooter based on reality.

[dark owl]

honestly I agree

[willow lance]

I want to engage in gunfights yeah 😂

[ebon bolt]

are you watching tik tok right now too?

[dark owl]

I don't see any major problems with health regen being at the pace it was

[worn marten]

I wouldn't put that above a coherantly designed set of systems
The game is immersive in other ways beyond just it's movement, and realism isn't required to deliver on immersion

[dark owl]

you're still in advantage by using medkits

[knotty grotto]

MEDIC

[dark owl]

but it wasn't a crutch

[foggy sparrow]

From what I’m seeing one he’s cheating. Or plays way too much cause that aim is definitely altered. And that’s obviously an exploit not an intended weird dive jump

[distant pendant]

No way you just tried to imply he's using aim hacks LOL

[foggy sparrow]

Ofc but next thing yk then you get Cookie Monster in the game

[white moss]

Gets near. But then runs away.

[knotty grotto]

Bf6 beta experience^

[worn marten]

that's if you take the extremist look at criticism, without considering the fact that nuance exists

[dark owl]

even looks at the corpse just to see if it's well killed

[willow lance]

It will make other classes worse too tbh unless they fix it, like better to hit redeploy as an engineer or recon than to wait for health regen or try to find an ammo box

[white moss]

Nah the beta was great. Revives galore

[foggy sparrow]

U gonna tell me that he’s just 100% dead accurate with zero cheats. Possible likely no. Whether he has cheats or an altered controller

[knotty grotto]

Am i one of the few who just revives as much as i can?

[worn marten]

altered controller
is on mouse

[distant pendant]

yes? he has good aim but its nothing out of the ordinary for someone that is good at shooters

[white moss]

Or uses KB/M

[worn marten]

that aim is calm compared to most bf4 players I've seen

[foggy sparrow]

That’s just a made up word I have a feeling that battlefield won’t stick to there word and will start with dumb skins soon

[distant pendant]

actual 0.5kd player if you think that is aim hacks

[hazy gull]

You’d fully regen anyways not like in bfv

[knotty grotto]

I can smell the chat, sweats discussion

[worn marten]

made up word? eh?

[dark owl]

100%

[white moss]

Spotted the Canadian

[foggy sparrow]

That’s insanely good not just good. He missed like one time from all the shots I’ve seen. Dead accurate no jumps. Which maybe the gun helps but nah that’s some sort of altered something

[foggy sparrow]

Yea because idk what it means so ofc it’s made up

[distant pendant]

let me guess, you are a controller player 💀

[ebon bolt]

bruh they wont add cookie monster skins in the game. Even in the last game it got pretty wacky but they didnt go that far

[foggy sparrow]

Yessir which are very easy to alter

[ebon bolt]

I would prefer a skin turn off option though

[knotty grotto]

CONTROLLA PLAYA, THATS A CONTROLLA PLAYA

[foggy sparrow]

Yet

[chilly shore]

imagine Battlefield adds a dinosaur gamemode

[dark owl]

lmao

[foggy sparrow]

They’ll test how far they can dip their toes into the water and found out

[white moss]

That's because there was a lot of outcry. Have to keep doing the same thing.

[ebon bolt]

maybe with portal

[chilly shore]

120 players gunning down a pre-hestoric monster

[worn marten]

nuance means something isn't black and white, there's a careful balance and a spectrum from one to the other with more complicated explanations and reasonings for things beyond just face value

[chilly shore]

COD have Zombies, maybe we should get dinosaurs

[knotty grotto]

They teased this with 2042 portal with 1942 vs 2042 and seeing portal in 6, i wouldnt be surprised if we can make this

[white moss]

I've been saying the same thing.

[ebon bolt]

that would be sick

[foggy sparrow]

Everything is just face value tho if you think about it. Everything is just black or white. It either is or isn’t in life

[dark owl]

ngl, the trailer for BO7 zombies was fire

[ebon bolt]

hell yeah game

[chilly shore]

the entire US marine corp vs the population of prehestoric earth

[worn marten]

movement isn't tho

[foggy sparrow]

Who do we think that the cowboy dude was

[knotty grotto]

Sticks vs boomsticks🗣️

[foggy sparrow]

Yea it is

[dark owl]

I still have BO3 installed just to play the zombies mode of that game

[worn marten]

if it was then people would either ask for arma movement or quake movement with no inbetween

[dark owl]

it's so good

[chilly shore]

They may have the T-rex but we have Lockheed Martin, Fairchild repbulic, and General Electric

[foggy sparrow]

I think the cowboy dude is either a new character or from mw3 zombies or Jebediah Brown

We need realism back in games

[knotty grotto]

Lets see a dinosaur parry a 105mm

[foggy sparrow]

Nun of this Lord Farquaad bs

[chilly shore]

General Electric loves making something that spins

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[worn marten]

You say that as if it doesn't exist anymore

[foggy sparrow]

Spent $20 and you can cheat by becoming a short Farquaad

[foggy sparrow]

It don’t anymore the only games with realism on all consoles and pc are like gta and ready or not and cod

[chilly shore]

If we're getting an A-10 we better hear the ear breaking BRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT

[worn marten]

gta?

of all things, gta.

[foggy sparrow]

Yea for the most part

[dark owl]

I find games with too much realism to be so boring

[foggy sparrow]

Obviously not the flying bikes

But a lot of aspects in gta are realistic atleast more than most games

[dark owl]

GTA is probably one of the least realistic games i've played lmao

[foggy sparrow]

Throw back to when bf4 they devs deciddd to leave in the part where you run over the one person while in the van in china

[white moss]

I mean they exist now so it actually showing up in 6 wouldn't be out of the norm but keeping it out would keep it more grounded into the past compared to 2042

[worn marten]

forgetting gray zone, tarkov, squad, arma, arena breakout, beautiful light, bellum, ground branch and countless other games that aim to remove abstractions to deliver on realism as a core design principle

[foggy sparrow]

That’s cap. What’s unrealistic except for the flying bikes and space guns

[fluid pecan]

BF have perfect balance in realism, arcade and absolute cinema optimus prime moments

[chilly shore]

I honestly think there should be a right balance of realism and arcade

[foggy sparrow]

Much more realistic than dare I say it battlefield or cod or any other game I can think of other than a few

[ebon bolt]

i feel like battlefield works best when it looks like a micheal bay movie about war

[foggy sparrow]

Yea and those are some of the games that are

[worn marten]

it's just you made it sound like something nobody does anymore, which isn't really true

[dark owl]

everything? ballistics are pretty unrealistic, way weapons behave, driving is pretty arcadey, physics are extremely adapted, even gravity works weird in the game

[foggy sparrow]

True I suppose the scenes be crazy

[echo iris]

The most realistic would be like arma, squad is sudo realistic, Battlefield is a Movie, Cod is a fortnite wana be now

[cobalt raven]

I like the way BF6 feels, though it could use a slight buff to movement speed and still retain a realistic movement speed based on a player carrying all that gear. I hope they fix the issue when you are prone on a rock pile for example, then suddenly it takes you out of prone while moving, instead of following the contour of the landscape you are on.

[foggy sparrow]

It’s less common way less common now it’s about $$$

[slender sapphire]

Br is taking forever to start a match wtf

[chilly shore]

Battlefield in general has that balance between realism and arcade fun

[white moss]

2042? Popular mode I suppose

[worn marten]

i've seen more 'realistic' games over the last 5 years than the last 15, easily. It's still a popular game type

[slender sapphire]

No bf6

[foggy sparrow]

Tbf it’s a game from what 2013 I think. For its time pretty realistic and that’s why I think gta 6 will be even more realistic especially in environments

[white moss]

Labs still going?

[slender sapphire]

Yeah

[chilly shore]

you'll probably have better odds in October 10

[white moss]

Even with labs it's probably popular

[ebon bolt]

if 1 is super realistic and 10 is super arcadey bf works best at 5-6

[foggy sparrow]

I just can’t believe battlefield refuses to fix glaring issues that might be minor but everyone has seen them

Like genuinely

[slender sapphire]

They could have just do open testing again

[foggy sparrow]

Scared they’ll do that with bf6

[worn marten]

which ones would you fix
cause the importance of those issues will vary a lot from player to player

[white moss]

What issues?

[foggy sparrow]

Well idk about bf6 rn because I only played it the first weekend. But let’s go back to bf4 like when people were falling through the game or when in the campaign scripted bots would go through the cars and all that and they just left that in. I feel it’s lazy work, what I hope is they don’t do the same for bf6

[worn marten]

so, bugs

[foggy sparrow]

Even tho a scripted person going through a vehicle isn’t the end of the world it’s just lousy and cheap

[foggy sparrow]

I suppose which is an issue

[white moss]

It was an early build

[foggy sparrow]

But the issue isn’t the bugs ever existing the issue is they left them there knowing very dang well it was an issue

[foggy sparrow]

They are still there to this day 💀

[white moss]

Did you let them know?

[foggy sparrow]

So I just hope bf6 is carried with more love

[worn marten]

oh my god the attack heli looks insane now

[foggy sparrow]

Nope I doubt they gonna go back to bf4 and fix it all they can do now is not do the same thing

[ebon bolt]

I feel like the biggest issue is maps. I am a bit skeptical on their decision to condense the map sizes.

[foggy sparrow]

Also I feel bf6 did a good job with play testing but what is up with so many other games not actually play testing their games and its so obvious

[foggy sparrow]

To compete with cod

Simply competition

[white moss]

Hopefully no close quarters map packs then. We have plenty with the launch ones

[ebon bolt]

But why is it trying to compete with it no cod player plays conquest

they all gonna be here for the br and the smaller game modes

[dark owl]

I don't feel like BF competes with CoD, it's a complete different game

[foggy sparrow]

Idk I think it’s dumb but they try. Bf cannot win in the smaller scale fighting department so they shouldn’t even try it

[dark owl]

we just try to compare it as much as we can

[foggy sparrow]

Hardly and they definitely are trying in some aspects

[ebon bolt]

i gotta try out how the new maps play on launch though

mirak valley seems like my favourite

[dark owl]

that's why I said one of these days that I dont think BF6 will outsell CoD BO7

ppl who play cod will keep on playing and buying the game

[foggy sparrow]

It won’t but tbf that’s because cod is just bigger

It is the final boss

[dark owl]

it's a completely different cycle of dopamine

[ebon bolt]

i dont know activsion seems really desparate

[foggy sparrow]

Don’t have zombies

[ebon bolt]

maybe this year it will dethrone cod

[foggy sparrow]

Ofc the same as EA they all just want money that’s all that matters

[dark owl]

they're desperate bc they know the game is becoming a dumpster fire, not because BF is coming

[foggy sparrow]

So competing even more with cod

[foggy sparrow]

Nah cod is simply to large

[white moss]

So was Rome and we know how that turned out

[ebon bolt]

tons of my buddies who used to play cod are interested in bf6 though

[foggy sparrow]

Rome was weak

[dark owl]

the cycle of releasing a new game yearly is bad, they need to constantly try to change things just in name of innovation and end up trying to fix things that are not problems and such

[foggy sparrow]

Same but I like both and always have

[dark owl]

the game lost its identity

[foggy sparrow]

True but then people complain when nothing changes

[ebon bolt]

i stopped playing cod from bo1

[foggy sparrow]

Even if it works

[white moss]

Same

[ebon bolt]

and the battlefield series got a bit shitier too throughout the years

i didnt even bother buying bf 2042

[white moss]

I tried other shooters and it just didn't feel the same.

[dark owl]

but that is exactly the point
it's why a yearly release is bad
both ends will end up being bad
the end that they change lots of things that were not problems and the game is bad bc of it, and the end that they release a very simillar game and ppl will say that they're paying for the exact same thing they paid the year before

[ebon bolt]

there is nothing like battlefield though sadly

ea can just keep screwing the series all they want

i just hope this one is good man

[worn marten]

the beta was already hella fun so I can't imagine it not being

[ebon bolt]

yeah true but you can never trust ea

[worn marten]

I just need something to sink my teeth into that isn't just shooting orange pills on a grey wall and getting high scores

[vital sedge]

whats the current status on movement mechanics for release

did they remove a bunch of stuff from beta?

[remote hatch]

No bunnyhopping and decreased accuracy while sliding iirc

[stable remnant]

ye no more walking or running you just teleport to new spots like in VR

[hexed moth]

Why on earth would you pay £100 for BO7. 🙄

[dim bramble]

I want to date Nato support

[chilly shore]

We got NATO engi

[dim bramble]

But I am a supporter main

[chilly shore]

We got PAX engi

We got our Pax Assaulter named Joe

hope they add Mag inspection animation

[stable remnant]

They didnt have like 60% of the gameplay mechanics in the beta, so yeah, they changed some stuff

[dim bramble]

Who's Joe?

[chilly shore]

Pax Joe

[vital sedge]

they remove hopping wtf?

are they trying to cater to aim assist controllers?

[foggy sparrow]

I think that just says ones thing the player base are idiots and are happy with nothing

And you can’t please an idiot

Nah

[chilly shore]

They should add mag inspection animations, I wanna look at the magazine of my guns for minutes

[worn marten]

Movement now is just a slide that has more spread while ads, slide jump for avoiding fire only and a dolphin dive where you can only shoot at the end.

Essentially it’s mostly avoidance now instead of engagement, where the engagement factor of it has been nerfed

[lone obsidian]

Spastic movement caters to aim assist since the game aims for you

[vital sedge]

i liked the slide jump, my facorite part of beta

[worn marten]

That still exists, don’t worry

[foggy sparrow]

Battlefield 6 a real battlefield game like bf4 mixed with cod and dying light and Fortnite

[chilly shore]

with slide, I think you have to build momentum

[worn marten]

Just gotta sprint for a second

[chilly shore]

Imagine BF6 with dyinglight style parkour

[worn marten]

Bfv was close enough to that with its ledge grabs

Just needs wall running to fit the bill

[umbral rune]

There's no Chinook transport helicopter??

That's lame

[worn marten]

Not as of yet

[foggy sparrow]

What is it

[knotty grotto]

Sound of freedom

[umbral rune]

So its a possibility?

[umbral rune]

Please EA add the A10 to BF6

[knotty grotto]

Its captain money

Hows detergent? Is he alright?

[worn marten]

I dunno, we can’t tell what they are going to add

[umbral rune]

Crewmate money*

[knotty grotto]

Gloves went off

[swift lava]

I need my m-tar21 😎🫡! Happy Friday to everyone

[umbral rune]

Ah I see..

[worn marten]

Do you want me to look into the future?

Can do real quick if you want

[chilly shore]

I'm back from market

bought fish

[ruby brook]

I think there was transport heli in the cinematic and it also appeared in labs

[umbral rune]

Yeah but thats a blackhawk I think

[chilly shore]

I wanna see a Chinook

you're basically a flying spawn point with it

except you can carry more

[ruby brook]

Well that would be cool

[chilly shore]

you're pretty much gonna be a nexus target considering your capacity

being able to transport large amount of troops in one chopper

but I also wanna see a MI-6 chopper for Pax

[tight needle]

LMFAO

[tight needle]

Ik what they're gonna add

They're gonna add [REDACTED]

[chilly shore]

imagine if they add bayonets to BF6

not much practical use but a good meme strat

we stab people with rifle

[tight needle]

I can already see the maps if they add em lmao

[chilly shore]

Low-key wouldn't mind seeing them

[knotty grotto]

Le fish au chocolate

[chilly shore]

people are gonna like make bayonet montage

[tight needle]

Something amazing would be if they did a W40k crossover with the death korps of krieg with bayonets :/

[tall slate]

I think you meant poisson

[tight needle]

"Guardsmen! Fix bayonets, affix bayonets! Be ready for blood!"

[chilly shore]

btw, does a w40k game exist where you can play as your average grunt

[tepid forge]

So serious question for everyone here, what is the first thing you’re doing once Battlefield 6 drops in October?

[tight needle]

What game?

[chilly shore]

if I got the eddies, I'd drop in and grind for the AK

[void crow]

Would be nice to earn tickets to unlock a weapon for a certain category, related to a class level then you wouldn't have to grind to unlock the weapon you want (crossed class weapons like dmr carabines or shotguns would be related to your solider level.

[frosty tulip]

Battlefield 6 fans when they still have to enjoy playing bf2042

[tight needle]

2042 has improved since launch ngl

[tepid forge]

I only played 2042 when it had that free-to-play event on my Xbox One, after that I kinda stopped. I did get an Xbox series X (I think) so I have better performance

[dark owl]

2042 is actually enjoyable nowadays

[frosty tulip]

specially if you go around looking like an actual milsim

[tepid forge]

Although it’s been a minute since I played battlefield

[dark owl]

but I like to complain, so I usually say 2042 makes me want do swallow an entire jug of fabric softener

[tepid forge]

I mean the specialists kinda kill it for me

[dark owl]

it's not even close of being perfect, there are still bad things like specialists and the early map design

[tepid forge]

Like the futuristic idea is cool and all, but seeing the comparisons of 2042 and BF6, I think I prefer BF6 more

[frosty tulip]

if youve been playing casually since, say season 5 when it came to psplus, youd already have a milsim skin for every single operator but Irish

Based on my experience, i mightve skipped an event

that had a masked headgear for him, idk

[tepid forge]

Nah I haven’t played 2042 since the free-to-play thing

[frosty tulip]

L

[tepid forge]

It was just those 3 days and I was done

[frosty tulip]

well no worries, with the phantom program running right now you can make pretty realistic skins if you mix them with T1 headgear

I think the one im wearing on my banner was from a free event

[tepid forge]

Although I do hope BF6 has more customization for soldiers while still being grounded

[worn marten]

I’m just a default Daniel, going with defaults on all characters cause they look good enough and I don’t care since it’s first person

[void crow]

From what i saw it's quite the same level but you have subfactions (i guess it depends on the map played)

[frosty tulip]

bro likes clone warfare

[echo yoke]

do you guys think bf6's br will be successful?

[tepid forge]

Yeah I can understand why there’s a NATO faction instead of like the U.S.

The subfactions are like, NATO countries, right?

[frosty tulip]

not at all

[tepid forge]

No

[frosty tulip]

Battle royale genre is pretty much dead

[tepid forge]

Why did they even add a BF6 BR?

[dark owl]

I cover my dck for the sake of decency and my ass for the sake of safety, have no interest in skins

[echo yoke]

they want more players ig

[frosty tulip]

Extraction shooters are the new norm, and even them are starting to rust

[tepid forge]

The only people that would play the BR are COD streamers

[frosty tulip]

I think the next big thing will either be back to PVE or tactical shooters

[dark owl]

BR is a kinda "streamer friendly" game mode

[tepid forge]

Honestly, if they just play that and not try and make BF6 feel like COD we should be fine I think

[frosty tulip]

so is Extraction shooters

[knotty grotto]

@chilly shore cooking fish easteregg in bf6

[dark owl]

gonna be honest, I don't know this genre

[tepid forge]

Helldivers 2 I think is an example

[dark owl]

never even touched this game

[frosty tulip]

Escace from Tarkov, COD DMZ, Arena Breakout, Delta Force Operations, Tavor, Division PVP modes

[tepid forge]

I mean me neither, I do want to play it tho since it came to Xbox

[frosty tulip]

HELLDIVERS 2 IS NOT AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER

[dark owl]

ah I see

[tepid forge]

I thought it was?

[knotty grotto]

Hd2 is a coop shooter

There is no extraction = loot mechanic

Also not pvp

[tired epoch]

bf2042 literally had an extraction mode

[frosty tulip]

Its a third person shooter simply as.
Extraction shooter means you ENTER with a loadout you BOUGH or LOOTED. Get into the match to LOOT items, and EXTRACT avoiding enemies to bring them again in the next battle

[tired epoch]

what do you do when you finish the mission

[knotty grotto]

Upgrade your stuff and dive avain

[tired epoch]

you literally extract

u fight off hordes whilst the ship comes to land

[knotty grotto]

And ‘upgrading’ isnt even like those games with carrying

[frosty tulip]

I guess Plants Vs Zombies GW2 is an extraction shooter

[tired epoch]

see you get it man

[knotty grotto]

Drg is also extraction shooter