battlefield-6

[drifting coyote]

yea but this time bo7 is a failure lol

[iron bridge]

🤓

[lament pulsar]

at least they are nerfing the movement because of fan outcry

[willow lance]

Tourist outcry

Real BF fans knows BF always had movement

[clear spade]

Bruh what movement was there in bf6 be honest boy

[chilly shore]

BF6 is different personally, it gives me COD modern warfare maybe black ops vibe the good part of COD vibe than the modern COD ft. Stan Smith

[willow lance]

Nah, BF6 will feel like MW2: 2

[chilly shore]

that one

[willow lance]

MW2:2 also decoupled point of aim from screen center lmao

[chilly shore]

2042 felt like Infinite Warfare and Advanced warfare's failed cloning process

[willow lance]

Nah

2042 feels most like Apex honestly, rather than COD

At least inspiration-wise

[iron bridge]

🤨 You ever played apex?

[willow lance]

BF6 however is a clear cut COD copy

[slender epoch]

No it’s not

[willow lance]

Specialists and slidehops reminds me of Apex, I don't have much Apex playtime though

[clear spade]

Don’t worry I will find something out give me couple of days

Where is the off topic chat

[willow lance]

#general

[clear spade]

Thanks boy

Im gonna have to remind people about something important

[craggy tapir]

Which bf fans tho. A good half of bf fans played on console which means that they never saw any advanced movement and were locked to a certain fov

(This is one of the reasons why I think crossplay was a mistake)

[exotic trench]

yet ppl cry when they get killed by 60 fov 20 sens snail pov aim assist

[clear spade]

Does your lvl on weapons restart?

[craggy tapir]

From the beta? Probably

[willow lance]

I remember jump boosting in BF3, was really fun in Damavand Rush to just skip the hills with gazelle jumping lol

[iron bridge]

At least console players have AI aim assist helping them out, lord knows they need it

[quartz fossil]

Anyone before BF1

Look up movement in bf2, bf3 and bf4

[craggy tapir]

I’ve been playing since 4 on PS. Movement barely existed on console back then

[quartz fossil]

Okay so you admit console battlefield is a different game to PC then turn around and say battlefield doesn't have movement you're just disingenuous

Good thing you can just turn off crossplay and never play with a PC player

Why would the advanced movement on PC bother you then

[worn marten]

although unfortunately inputs are mixed now so that won't work

[craggy tapir]

“Movement barely existed on console back then”

[quartz fossil]

That is a problem not movement existing

[quartz pasture]

I pefer both pc and console

[quartz fossil]

99% of people do

[craggy tapir]

I never said that the original games never had movement. I said the original games on console barely had any movement

[quartz fossil]

It's a very small minority on both PC and Console that dislike crossplay

Assuming it's not like COD where aim assist being Aimbot makes the game unplayable on mouse

[quartz fossil]

My b then

Aiming and movement are just 1 thing in Battlefield though you can easily kill better players by just positioning/getting lucky which happens often

[exotic trench]

they will even get rid of zoom snap in bf6 which did more harm than good anyway tbh

[chilly shore]

I don't mind playing with other platforms

[willow lance]

I prefer mobile

[worn marten]

Wii fit

[iron bridge]

Copium suppression fire andy

[quartz fossil]

COD mobile is unironically better than most COD games on PC and Console

[chilly shore]

Battlefield 6 VR when?

it's basically PTSD movie simulator

[quartz fossil]

It's legit just a fun game no bs

[quartz fossil]

"I should be rewarded for missing my shots!"

People like this should not be allowed to play fps games

[iron bridge]

+1

[chilly shore]

what's so bad about suppression?

[quartz fossil]

^

[iron bridge]

Useless, just like the people who need it to function

[quartz fossil]

You should not be rewarded for being bad at the video game

[worn marten]

when the people using it weren't actually trying to suppress, and just miss, which ends up making the fight more annoying for both people

[quartz fossil]

We're talking about suppression that makes the suppressed target have lower accuracy and shit

I'm fine with visual suppression like some sorta sound or minor visual distortion

[exotic trench]

bf3 suppression man

[chilly shore]

sometimes shooting at their general direction keeps the enemy bogged down in one place

[quartz fossil]

Sure

[chilly shore]

allowing you to advance closer

[quartz fossil]

Sure that's fine

[iron bridge]

Just kill them, stop pretending ur being useful.

[civic herald]

Add suppression but only for snipers

[quartz fossil]

No no Lion he's right

[tight needle]

Mobile?

I play on my Gucci smart socks

[iron bridge]

No he is not right.

[quartz fossil]

I'm scared to look this up it's probably real

[worn marten]

trouble is when the person missing isn't trying to intentionally shoot near to suppress but is just genuinely missing

[chilly shore]

Knowing I can't him yet, I might as well keep them from shooting back and take ground

[iron bridge]

Yeah, keep overpeaking, like you’re not about to lose your head.

[quartz fossil]

I hope movement isn't ass now I don't want battlefield to become headglitchfield

[iron bridge]

Survival instinct of a dodo

[worn marten]

it will become csgo and you will like it cause it's tactical

[quartz fossil]

I am vomit

[willow lance]

Even CS2 buffed the movement and brought back bunny hopping lmao

[vague reef]

how much you wanna bet if most people couldn't suppress in a tactical shooter of if bf was more like arma half of the community that is mainly cod players would rage quit because its too hard

[strong echo]

Bc it's a shit game

[quartz fossil]

I'm sick of these names

[worn marten]

more likely they will quit because it isn't fun for them

all you do is do what people do in bf already but just slower

[willow lance]

They also nerfed the HP regen rate

[quartz fossil]

Both arma and cod tourists will get filtered

[iron bridge]

Chatgpt can you decipher this message for me?

[willow lance]

Takes 14 seconds to reach 100 hp from 10 hp now, it used to be 9 seconds in the beta

[vague reef]

tactical games are fun depends how you go about it actually .....i mean if you just play COD all your life or play a battle royal all your life you numb out the excitement of an actual good game

[quartz fossil]

Imagine thinking your way of enjoying video games is objectively the correct way of having fun

I hope you're trolling

[worn marten]

and someone just may not like those games, which is still entierly fair

[exotic trench]

the series was always arcade shooters tho

[chilly shore]

personally, I like BF having a balance between an arcade and tactical

[quartz fossil]

There should be different types of games and things in between so gamers have agency and control of what they play.

You should never advocate for games to become homogenized

[iron bridge]

Looks like you’re way too into roleplay. Maybe try practicing your aim instead of pretending to fight

[vague reef]

imagine having to act like a hostile man child with no way of having an open debate .....and when you lose the debate you cancel culture someone because your comeback or rebuttle ain't good enough.

[quartz fossil]

Bro you just called arcade games not fun as if it's fact

Pretending to care about open discourse when you're this ignorant...

[vague reef]

i think you assumed that instead of actually asking more about it and just assume

[willow lance]

Might as well turn BF6 into Insurgency 2 not gonna lie since DICE cares more about the opinion of reddit 😂

[strong echo]

That's his way of making friends....

[quartz fossil]

Read this sentence again

As much as COD kids are annoying they're usually not as ignorant as Military LARP Bros

[strong echo]

Why do u wanna force cross play?

[tight needle]

Nah, I'm just messin about.

I do play DOOM on my smart fridge

[quartz fossil]

I'm the Joker.

[vague reef]

having a balance is good don't get me wrong but when people complain thinking suppression doesn't help sounds like to me a man child that hasn't gone to war or know nothing about actual warfare tactics

[tight needle]

I wouldn't be surprised if DOOM could run on a vending machine

[quartz fossil]

This guy is pro real life war

[exotic trench]

suppression is just annoying if it adds dispersion

[quartz fossil]

Alright

[quartz fossil]

You should just go enlist for reals instead of larping in video games. None of us actually wants to join the military but you clearly do.

[iron bridge]

Suppression fire isn’t useful in any way, shape, or form. Either kill the person you’re aiming at or don’t, don’t expect rewards for horrid aim, and stop lying to yourself that you’re making an impact.

[quartz fossil]

Real life military is boring as shit like milsim games

Making arcade games less arcade isn't striking a balance

[strong echo]

Ur wrong pal, u just need friends to enjoy them

[tight needle]

Try Hell Let Loose, then you'll feel the PTSD

[quartz fossil]

I do not have friends

What now 🧐

[exotic trench]

HLL vietnam has me interested ngl

[quartz fossil]

My friends that play milsim games just stick to playing milsim games and don't go being annoying at arcade game communities

[worn marten]

public chat. Milsim games are honestly best as fun social experiences

[vague reef]

lol he prob wont because he acts like a child that haven't experience true fps games lol all he cares about is that yt reels to look good and to stroke his ego

[fierce socket]

You're high if you think suppression is just missing shots

[quartz fossil]

Every game should have VOIP

[strong echo]

A man of culture right here

[worn marten]

well at least it isn't like my mates who just play league and that's it

[iron bridge]

Cause it is, show me your stats we can compare impact on games

[jaunty spindle]

Yall fight alot here.

[quartz fossil]

Okay playing league is worse than playing milsim slop

[fierce socket]

I promise youre dookie brother

[strong echo]

It's in the name

[worn marten]

handshake.jpeg

[iron bridge]

I got a feeling, I'm 5x your kd

[rustic merlin]

Suppression works in life because no one wants to get shot, alas we play as suicidal grunts who sprint at their enemies while magically regenerating from getting shot in the head, bullets whizzing by our head doesn’t make us flinch

[fierce socket]

Doubt.jpeg

[strong echo]

He is lmfao

[vague reef]

lol i can agree with that statement its legit cancer half of the time

[quartz fossil]

Is that why battlefield in game chat is basically never moderated? I've seen actual threats of violence and the accounts doing them never get banned lol

[iron bridge]

#stats check in

[strong echo]

Here or in game?

[quartz fossil]

In game

[hearty kelp]

oh my lord reading that twitter post about how "movement has been nerfed too hard" is so funny

[vague reef]

spoken like a true gamer that sees the light ....i salute you good sir

[hearty kelp]

enders getting ratio'd is always hilarious

[fierce socket]

You actually asking for 2042 stats? Actually doodoo

[quartz fossil]

Battlefield games have had serious doxxing/harassment issues.

BF6 is the first game to introduce streamer mode.

[quartz fossil]

Him being right about everything is funnier

[strong echo]

Oh I didn't know, I might try say few bad words there 😈 #BaddistBoyAlive

[iron bridge]

bf6, 2042 , b1 ,3,4 whatever you want.

[worn marten]

you can still replicate the feeling by creating punishment for peeking that works alongside the game's other systems, hence how it works in all the games that has it

[hearty kelp]

found the guy wearing fingerless gloves while spending 6h a day on kovaaks

[quartz fossil]

Never played an aim trainer in my life I'm just not shit at video games

[slender epoch]

Anti the new pickle

[iron bridge]

#stats, you are 0.5kd

[hearty kelp]

yeah i'm saying he's wrong and movement players should never be listened to under any circumstances

[vague reef]

lmao more funny when the cod kids come out to whine over such

[quartz fossil]

GASPS

[iron bridge]

Pickle got 3.5kd, I got 9.56

[strong echo]

WAIT, HE ACTUALLY MIGHT BE PICKLE

[iron bridge]

big difference

[hearty kelp]

"movement" and "vehicle" players have a VERY bad habit of trojan horsing "improvements" that make it easier to farm new players, which is exactly what they base their personalities on

[iron bridge]

He's my son

[slender epoch]

I’m getting pickle vibes lol

[hearty kelp]

the best thing to do is to just sample the entire community properly and decide based on majority

[quartz fossil]

You're gonna get farmed by better players no matter what bro.

Either get good and fight back or quit.

[strong echo]

What was ur name again? I forgor since ur so irrelevant lmfao

[toxic maple]

Question is the bmp2 or 3 in bf6?

[hearty kelp]

i already wipe out farmers in BF4 bud, doesn't hold up

[iron bridge]

Oh, the little 2kd cab driver barking again

[quartz fossil]

Doesn't make any sense but sure

[vague reef]

i mean armor wise you are suppose to push an obj and be moral for infantry to want to push an obj .....you ain't there to carry but be moral booster to the team and hit high value targets

[quartz fossil]

Nobody who's actually good at the video game will argue that skill expression should be removed from the game.

It's always the shit players.

[slender epoch]

At least we can all agree fort vaux is the best map ever conceived

[hearty kelp]

if DICE makes the mistake of listening to 0.1% of the community, regardless of their level of skill it typically only makes it good for that percentage lmao

[quartz fossil]

Nonsense

[hearty kelp]

listen to the other 99.9% and you'll shit out a banger

[prime python]

1 quick question
Will the phantom edition XP boost last 24 hours and does it start counting down once the game comes out?

[iron bridge]

Haha

[worn marten]

I'll admit I do see this a fair few times, but some points are valid I'd say

You'll always hear counter arguments for both sides anyway

[quartz fossil]

The beneficial stuff argued by the good players benefits everyone actually except for shitty toxic players who want the game to become candy crush levels of difficulty

[willow lance]

DICE is listening to 0.1% yeah, they are listening to reddit and 0.3KDs they invited to labs

[iron bridge]

Let’s buff suppression fire, clearly needed to cater to the horrid aim of 99.9% of players

[strong echo]

Ur just jealous u weren't invited

[hearty kelp]

things like adding that "i" crosshair are fine, but anything centered around balance should really not be tailored towards their opinion

[quartz fossil]

I play casually and I basically agree with everything Enders says. I'm no where as good a player as he I'm just not low IQ and understand nerfing movement will cause people to camp and headglitch more.

[hearty kelp]

because as people do, they will try to sneak in something that seems reasonable but ultimately will make fighting what they play an aidsfest

[willow lance]

I'm jealous because my opinions won't matter

[vague reef]

i think once it becomes active like you enable the booster is when it applies the timer

[slender epoch]

Only buff the suppression to snipers . There’s actually no way to chall snipes unless you have a 2 shot gun

[quartz fossil]

'The game should be balanced around bad players who don't understand the game"

^^ insane position

[hearty kelp]

"sUpPrEsSiOn ReWaRdS mIsSiNg"

[strong echo]

Sad

[quartz fossil]

It literally does

[willow lance]

HP regen nerf was unnecessary for example, it will just reduce class diversity but they did it anyways because people were wanting BF4 hp regen back 🤮

[quartz fossil]

Medic is still OP so

[hearty kelp]

"bf6 should be based around the opinions of only people who farm in vehicles as a personality and the titanfall rejects who don't wanna play titanfall"

quite a curious take but i do not judge

[quartz fossil]

Never said that

[strong echo]

Not really, they r helpless against vehicles

[worn marten]

I'd like to at least feel the regen changes before properly worrying about it

[rustic merlin]

I was farming them on Liberation Peak with the KTS100 with the headshot ammo. Shit was funny

[willow lance]

Yeah, no reason to even use assault at this point, 14 seconds sounds insane for a fast paced game like BF6, you can kill 14 people in 14 seconds

[iron bridge]

Stay silent, you’re the reason your team can’t capture the point. Trading 1 tank spawn for 2 kills? Be serious.

[quartz fossil]

Just another silly redditor with negative K/D who plays the game for 2 hours a week. Bye bye.

[hearty kelp]

what a cope lmao, 3.7 KD on the beta

[strong echo]

Silence u maggot, a bf veteran is present

[slender epoch]

Oh ya I liked that gun

[hearty kelp]

pretty sure I could hop on after a long day and ruin you without much effort

anyway speaking of movement players, how was the shotgun rework

[rustic merlin]

Also the LT lmg was also peak. I farmed so many people by just having no recoil and a suppressor.

[strong echo]

YOU, out of everyone here, should be going crazy about assaults having 2 primary guns

[vague reef]

-inhales- ahhhhh the great smell of salty kids in a chat where i could be a salt miner and be rich

[willow lance]

It's clear they won't remove weapon sling, like how they won't remove sweet spot, no need to argue when so many people told them

[quartz fossil]

This isn't a milsim lobby tho

[slender epoch]

I prefer no sling for the extra reserve ammo

[willow lance]

Same

[strong echo]

I thought u were a cod player, what happened to stims and overkill?

[blazing peak]

poop

[strong echo]

That's basically assault

[blazing peak]

stinky poop

[iron bridge]

Sweetspot is the biggest crutch in gaming history I’ve ever seen, right up there with mortars. @strong echo might even raise his kd to 2.02

[chilly shore]

I'm no soldier but I've studied some from the resources available online

[blazing peak]

big fat smelly shit

[prime python]

That'd be cool

[strong echo]

Ur name and PFP r offensive. It hurts my feelings

[chilly shore]

Cheese

[slender epoch]

Comon man it ain’t that deep no one out there was farming sweet spot kills 100%

[willow lance]

Stims are currently useless too tbh, would be better if they removed fast HP regen and gave back limited self healing to assault

[vague reef]

same not saying you were the man child fyi i meant the other kids obviously

[slender epoch]

I do think it should be toned down tho

[iron bridge]

What are you even talking about? It should never exist. If you can’t land a headshot with a sniper, you shouldn’t be rewarded with a one-shot kill.

[willow lance]

That's the point, it's random one shot body shot, sweet spots are 99.9% random

[chilly shore]

But damn some of the things i learned sorta help me last a little longer not saying it's a guarantee that i'll live

[hearty kelp]

as long as we don't have a repeat of players ignoring assault (intended as the self healing and self supportive class) for falck (infinite self healing)

hohohooo the consequences

[chilly shore]

I wish the stims allow me to give some to my mates

[willow lance]

It will happen anyways due to how they are nerfing HP regen rate, I won't ever use recon or engineer ngl, 14 seconds for hp regen is insanely long for a BF match

[worn marten]

at this point I'd rather it was replaced by something else, but can't think of anything that'll work

[vague reef]

yeah obviously lol common sense most player will hunker down if they taking too much fire or they will panic smoke and backtrack or loop around the shooters but if supports are doing support things like prevent a flank or just any player in general ......even a COD kid will get shot down for even thinking they are good at the game and relying too much on the movement mechanic

[slender epoch]

Well there’s def gonna be less recons anyway cus no more beacon

[iron bridge]

Copium

[willow lance]

They should just give limited self sufficiency to assault, would make the game play better, would lead to more class diversity instead of everyone using support with ARs as assault

[blazing peak]

please do a collab with sharknado

[vague reef]

wont stop me from being a recon lol that uav is good though for playing aggressive

[worn marten]

depends to what extent they'll be self sufficient

[slender epoch]

Uav was broken funny lol

It can be shot down tho

[willow lance]

2042's medpens were fine, 2 shots you need to resupply from boxes

[worn marten]

Cause if it's too much, I wouldn't find myself playing support at all really besides philanthropy

[hearty kelp]

i like the EOD's additional mine function, things like that flesh out and make more gadgets useful

i don't know a single guy in 4 that uses the EOD bot for anything other than torching people

[vague reef]

the radius is still pretty big and yes i agree but i mean every class is a rock paper scissors type of game anyways. takes more skill to be good in a class than be some COD snob that rely too much on their perk building

[hearty kelp]

has anyone seen how SOFLAM/tracer darts function, i.e how powerful they are by the way

[worn marten]

assault pen but it gives you zain heal on kill for a duration instead

[chilly shore]

As much as possible, I avoid taking fights I would obviously not win, and wait for my teammates to provide armoured and maybe air support

[slender epoch]

I always forgot about the assault ulti pen lol

[iron bridge]

How can you even talk about skill when you’re a suppression fire Andy with 0.65 kd and 5% accuracy?

[vague reef]

lol soflam and tracer dart is in a good place ngl and still to this day is.

[chilly shore]

you have better odds to win the fight if you're the one starting it in a good advantage point

[iron bridge]

I don’t get how people like you can even express opinions, knowing deep down you have zero foundation for your takes

[vague reef]

lol i assume anti is spitting out insults because he can't just shut his mouth

[quartz fossil]

The loudest voices often are the most ignorant

[willow lance]

Zain should be a perk tbh, heal on kill for 5 seconds sounds very useless

Most of the kills you get are reactionary in BF, you can't be prepared for next 5 seconds most of the time

[worn marten]

If it were a flat perk I don't think I'd ever choose the other, but I could imagine some situations where an active version could be useful

[iron bridge]

He started an open discussion and couldn’t respond to a single point, just rambling his delusional takes, like he’s some fps sub-world legend.

[slender epoch]

Just watever you do don’t bring Sundance back

[worn marten]

sniping with zain with that perk was just so fun

[vague reef]

you mean the cluster gernades ? i doubt they will

[iron bridge]

Posting #stats would instantly end the discussion for him

[stable remnant]

I think you mean Squirrel lady

[worn marten]

given the volume of nerfs to them, I can't see anything like them ever coming back

[quartz fossil]

You can't just come out and say arcade games are objectively unfun and then go on to have opinions on arcade game balance

[chilly shore]

she violated the geneva convention with her cluster nades but not to the same level as the guy from Uzbekistan

[quartz fossil]

I thought he was Romanian

[vague reef]

KD in a bf game ? that sounds like a cry for help for someone that no lifes a game ? why dont you do yourself a favor and go touch grass or have mommy take you out for a walk kid you kinda need it

[quartz fossil]

Kindergarten insults

[iron bridge]

Don't switch topics, we can go compare bank statments in dms.

[quartz fossil]

I believe you when you say you were in the army

[hearty kelp]

how's the range? how's the damage? can it be defeated by a tiny rock blocking line of sight?

those are the important questions

[vague reef]

range wise on the soflam from comparing it from previous games is better for my take anyways.....i mean soflam main thing was to mark targets so like rpg's and anything else that had laz support can lock and fire on target......as for dmg amplification i don't think it had any same for tracer darts ......trace darts was paint a target so people can lock on it via AA stingers and such

[willow lance]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1nkn8l1/the_new_build_nerfed_the_health_regeneration/

[worn marten]

Can I just say It's cool how this channel is devoid of stuck labs people. That's a nice change

[chilly shore]

I like the 2042 soflam personally, I can use it as a normal Binoc

good for scouting out the area without giving away my positon using a sniper scope

[hearty kelp]

i like that it was combined in BF6 but soflam is worthless in 2042 vs any kind of aircraft

flares are just the game's version of ECM and is completely impenetrable

[vague reef]

you can still use it as nods anyways but i def would like to see it be used more with more features. but i mean you can only do so much with soflam's

[hearty kelp]

flare, fly away, strafe, flare, fly away, and you'll literally never die once to any kind of lased rocket

THAT is bad design

[chilly shore]

hope they bring binocs back for Recon, allowing for intel gathering

without giving away position

[hearty kelp]

bf6's flares only lasting 2 seconds gives me some serious hopium in that you can actually deal with air vehicles with soflam again

[vague reef]

be glad its not full in depth flight sims where they gave you flares and chaff lol

[hearty kelp]

the people that farm in jets are those types of players

[vague reef]

honestly if we were able to punch holes in wings of a jet or plane i bet we would get those salty kids that whine about it being too hard ....... like those typical kids playing dark souls and can't learn to adapt

[worn marten]

2042's flares definitely lasted too long

and I spent most of my time in aircraft

[hearty kelp]

i'd much prefer complete destruction

[willow lance]

No wonder BF6 becomes worse and worse with each update Redditors are celebrating slowest HP regen in fastest TTK BF game, game will be unplayable 😂

[worn marten]

the fact that you can angle the stinger to ignore the flares and lock the jet right after they finish dumping said flares is a nice little skill that just makes them stronger

[quartz fossil]

Reddit was celebrating 128 players for 2042 so

[hearty kelp]

here's my want: say you have three guys, one positioned somewhere in the map to mark an air vehicle, and the other two are on opposite corners of said map stationed specifically to destroy that air vehicle

[willow lance]

DICE is listening to reddit too, it's over

[hearty kelp]

if an air vehicle goes the wrong way and ends up being lased near one of them, they should be outright boned, zero means of recourse

[quartz fossil]

This guy's bio lol

[chilly shore]

bait used to be believable

[hearty kelp]

if i'm putting in the effort with 3 people to take out one vehicle, it absolutely should win

[quartz fossil]

"Vehicle players should just instantly die if I look at them"

This is good game balance

[hearty kelp]

vehicle players should die if they fly over me with no countermeasures and are being marked

[chilly shore]

2042 stingers are a joke

[tight prism]

We love bait, I wish it came in the form of bloomin' onions though.

[hearty kelp]

i would imagine that is a more than reasonable take but you're beyond reason lmao

[quartz fossil]

Why would a good player do that tho

[worn marten]

I can understand the principle tbf

[hearty kelp]

....because they're unaware of your existence?

[quartz fossil]

Usually you just dance around or go super low to avoid missiles

[vague reef]

imagine baitting out the toxic kids when they throw kd in an agruement over a bf game lol

[quartz fossil]

KD is the most important thing in the game without killing enemies you can't capture objectives

[hearty kelp]

oh LORD that is bait

[quartz fossil]

Telling the truth is bait to Redditors

My K/D is usually 1 or 2 cause I just play super aggressively and don't really care about dying

[civic herald]

Bf2042 air is so strong what were devs thinking 😭

[stable remnant]

Did they say Mirak Valley is A big map or..THE big map

[hearty kelp]

the one good aspect that hopefully carried over to 6 is that lockons straight up do not care about Y axis

[quartz fossil]

These 2 new maps aren't even big but I just hope people stfu about muh big maps

[vague reef]

for someone saying kd is the right arguement say that to a kid who is like 54/3 with a jet and still lose a game because their entire team decides to snipe the whole match and not take obj .......is that your fault ? no ........but proves that kd ain't what makes you win games kid

[worn marten]

trouble is if I just die to a thing I can't counter or forsee I'd just get frustrated

[iron bridge]

Copium more

[quartz fossil]

If you have 54/3 and you still lose then it was definitely your team's fault

[hearty kelp]

it's a group of players working together to sneak up on you, in a situation where you'd otherwise be able to run free

having recourse against players being obnoxious is a big part of balancing

[worn marten]

I know, but i'd still like some kind of solution to the problem

[quartz fossil]

If you killing the enemy team over and over again doesn't make your teammate move up and capture objectives that's their fault for not doing their job

[iron bridge]

He peaked 10/7

[quartz fossil]

You can do the killing but if no one caps that's on your teammate being shit

You still need kills to capture objectives

[hearty kelp]

i'd argue it's honestly a "take the L and move on" moment, incentivizing you to remember where you got locked from and run to a different part of the map instead

which then, yeah, might result in those players also shifting positions in the hope of getting you again; pure counterplay

[quartz fossil]

Not when the maps are tiny and you have no where to run

[hearty kelp]

i can't tell how many times in 4 i've seen someone be a real shitsmear with the jet, run to the same part of the map, and my friends and I strategize to bait him into doing the same thing again only for me to be directly positioned immediately in his escape path to cut him off with a javelin

[quartz fossil]

Firestorm spawns should be pushed way back

[worn marten]

yeah that's the play even with stingers from people running solo, not disagreeing there, but in a general case if there is no solution at all to something I just can't find it fun

[slender epoch]

Kd in a game where you can literally be revived from teammates

[worn brook]

hui i got a bf6 invitation but the link never worked could i get some help

[quartz fossil]

I mean yeah it doesn't count as kill or death if revived

[long bolt]

#battlefield-labs-discussion

[iron bridge]

And we still got people with below 1 kd, laughable

[exotic trench]

they immediately revoked it because you broke NDA sorry

[vague reef]

i agree its a team effort in a bf game and i understand that getting kills is key ...... lol but kd does not factor in a winning game when its a TEAM EFFORT type of game and LEARNING TO DEFEND A OBJ when it calls for it.....if you can hold it good enough you come out on top a majority of the time .....plus holding a sector /point is -10 tickets and a kill that is secured is -2 from it as well for those that are nerds about the score tally.

[slender epoch]

maybe they don’t have a pocket medic

[hearty kelp]

so as an example, let's take Caspian Border on 4, a stealth is ECMing before every strafe and getting away unscathed but happens to be running past E to escape
my buddy grabs his SUAV, throws it the second the jet starts his strafe again and chases him, but this time that same jet is heading directly towards me meaning he's in my javelin range

[quartz fossil]

You don't have to have high k/d but saying killing doesn't matter in a game all about killing is just admission of no clue

[iron bridge]

🤨

[hearty kelp]

the jet is lased, i have a shot, that jet is absolutely dead

THAT is coordination and teamwork that should be encouraged

[quartz fossil]

I'm pretty sure when I kill 10 people defending the objective I'm playing the objective and doing team work but apparently not

[slender epoch]

Exactly, now we’re talk about sbmm and how it’s rigged to keep you at a below 2 kd by giving you ahh teammates

[quartz fossil]

People with high k/d have high k/ds because they farm near objectives where most players are

They're not sitting at the back of spawn with a sniper

[vague reef]

thats a skill balance issue thats why they are fixing it to be more balanced going by your career stats

[iron bridge]

I do

[quartz fossil]

They're inherently playing the objective by getting kills. People who can't get a lot of kills have the duty of capturing the objective.

That's the team play...

[tight prism]

Though a lot of them are also not PTFO'ing, though there are exceptions.

If you are not on point, your kills are mattering for the offense sure, but it is not securing the point. If you are on point and securing kills, great.

[quartz fossil]

Lion can do whatever he wishes

[iron bridge]

Fr

[vague reef]

so if its a premade team they will pit you up against the same level of skill as another enemy premade team

[tight prism]

Kills absolutely matter, but K/D does not.

[quartz fossil]

Mutually exclusive statements

[worn marten]

I still use it as a measure of my own performance just for progression sake anyway

[slender epoch]

Week 1 of beta was more playable I feel like week 2 had atrocious matchmaking

[quartz fossil]

I don't actually care about k/D I just end up having the highest k/d on my team normally

[slender epoch]

Teams felt unfair even solo queuing

[quartz fossil]

I don't play with squads just solo

[vague reef]

let's pray they fix it and i def agree week 1 beta was pretty on point ......but we will have to see when it comes officially out

[civic herald]

Is there even sbmm

[tight prism]

They really are not. Yes, dying too much is a problem as it takes tickets away on the attacker side(speaking as a Breakthrough/Rush person), but on defense not even remotely, and even then, a negative K/D on attack where your kills are you on point and wiping people out preventing the cap and ultimately capping helped the team far more than random goldfish plucking.

[slender epoch]

Like I’m more of a completionist lol I just wanted to try the new guns and learn vehicles not spam meta gun 😂

[quartz fossil]

Sure I don't disagree

[iron bridge]

Little cub is asking for sbmm so he gets more kd demons on his team. His kd lowering the average by himself

[tight prism]

A high K/D does not mean a bad player, not at all, but that does not mean a low K/D means a bad player.

[quartz fossil]

I never said k/d is the only thing that matters

High k/d always means good player

You are killing enemies which enables your teammates to capture objectives

Btw I usually have highest k/d and highest objective play

[vague reef]

specially when its a team effort game its all about communication and working with one another. a good example of that is arma and hell let loose fyi

[civic herald]

Anti is cheater so shouldnt rlly listen to what they saying 😉

[quartz fossil]

I don't think I've ever had high kd and no objective. I do actually like to just sit my ass down on objectives and capture them myself (can't rely on teammates for shit)

[iron bridge]

Let’s communicate with the team, especially when there is no team voice chat

[tight prism]

That is simply untrue though. If they never capped, healed, repaired, destroyed vehicles, etc., they absolutely helped whittle people down(likely goldfish not helping their team anyway), but they did not help with follow-up.

A high K/D and high objective or other support score? Absolutely, MVP.

[iron bridge]

We dropping iq points by a minute

[tight prism]

HLL became a no man's land of nobody talking last I tried it.

[quartz fossil]

Again, killing enemies leads to all those things so they actually did even indirectly if they didn't themselves.

[vague reef]

i can agree with that half of the time but i mean depends really on your teammates i had some that actually had no voip communication and knew how to work together which is dumbfound insane to get people like that

[quartz fossil]

You can only VOIP with your squad bro

[slender epoch]

Hll usually has like 2-3 Squads on mic per round

[tight prism]

If they are standing outside the point and we lose because we needed an extra person on the point, I will blame the one who never followed through even if they did help enable the position.

[quartz fossil]

Most people have the chat disabled

Literally impossible to communicate

[vague reef]

thats what i mean no squad voip and still knew what to do is what i am getting at

[tight prism]

Used to be everyone talked, last I played I encountered exactly one.

[quartz fossil]

Accidental teamworks are nice

But can't rely on them as strategy lol

[slender epoch]

That’s all gonna change when Vietnam game comes lol

[exotic trench]

they actively help enabling you to even be there and hold other players out of it please

[quartz fossil]

Pretty sure killing a large portion of the enemy is more valuable than 1 more person on the point

If those enemies were alive you would 100% lose the point

[river urchin]

Test

[vague reef]

true but so is having that one additional body on obj plays a role .

[long bolt]

a bad player blames there team mate
a good player helps there team mates
the best player makes there team mates win the game for them

[quartz fossil]

Angry Kiss wtf is this emoji

[cold quail]

Can’t wait for this game man

[exotic trench]

to have everyone getting flanked and lose it in the end, great

[cold quail]

PTFO BOIS

[quartz fossil]

I hope BR gets delayed or launches with the main game I don't want to play it at the same time as Arc Raiders man

[vague reef]

lol i mean if they ain't watchin the flank thats on them ....but i get what you mean by that

[slender epoch]

tickets drain fast when you been all capped

[tight prism]

You are assuming that those seven players you plucked off while not being on the point would not have been taken out by other people though.

Being on the point matters, even one extra person can turn the tide and win a match. Mainly due to goldfish being on teams, but still.

[quartz fossil]

I have lost count of the number of times I wipe the enemy off the objective, die and no one on my team pushes and captures it.

[stable remnant]

was it 4 times?

[vague reef]

honestly i think br coming 3 months out after launch would be ok but i feel like any rushed project is a bad approach .....i rathe have a fleshed out game and a stable one is better than a poorly rushed one

[iron bridge]

What kind of flawed logic is this?

[quartz fossil]

I look at the scoreboard and I have triple the points of the 2nd best player on the team

I'm not even mad I tried

[vague reef]

all you can really do

[quartz fossil]

Losing or Winning matches doesn't matter it's a casual lobby I just hope the matches are close and fun

[exotic trench]

@tight prism how do you have only 11% accuracy? no front tbh

[quartz fossil]

@iron bridge how do you post #stats

You can flame me Mr Lion

[tight prism]

I am a terrible shot, why do you think I only play support roles? I enable those who are.

[iron bridge]

, /bf6 beta2 stats segment:Overview username:

[quartz fossil]

I know they wouldn't be taken out because I have like more than Quadruple the kills of the guy on 2nd place on my team bro

Lol

[iron bridge]

I don’t flame people, I simply point out the truth.

[quartz fossil]

Same thing

[iron bridge]

But you seem to have valid takes

[quartz fossil]

I love the truke

I'm defending people like Enders but I don't even play like him or am remotely as skilled

[chilly shore]

Hope the devs allow us to give stims to teammates

[iron bridge]

Just play medic already

[chilly shore]

I kept getting 2 stims during the Beta, I might as well share some to my mate and give em a little boost during a gun fight

[quartz fossil]

Stims were so dogshit

[iron bridge]

How about you help them shoot the enemy instead of doing some type of sissy roleplay

[quartz fossil]

Just let assault self heal man

I guess faster HP is the same

[acoustic plume]

They will never be battlefield

[vague reef]

i mean honestly i am not ego stroking i am only ok not like a gigachad at kills ......but i know i def play obj when i am on obj .......when i am off sniping though i am just trying to get my stuff done for my weapons lol i know people farm it in the portal modes but i feel disgusted to do it because its sorta cheating to a standard in my eyes

[chilly shore]

I wanna see assault have a sort of supporting role with the stims like maybe enhancing combat capabilities

[iron bridge]

😂 wtf is this chat, this guy roleplaying, the other guy talking to a brick wall

[vague reef]

well assault suppose to get beacons now so thats gunna be interesting

[chilly shore]

That's a good one

[iron bridge]

He lowkey running a full on conversation with himself for the past 30 minutes

[slender epoch]

Just farm vih kills if kd matters tm

[vague reef]

sorry is anti trying to be one of those meme kids that yaps a lot ? or is it just me in noticing that ?

[chilly shore]

Bait used to be believable

[iron bridge]

Ozmund you been spewing out bs takes for 45 minutes now, how about you back it up with #stats now, let us know what kind of player we are dealing with

[quartz fossil]

I'm starting to like this guy he's based

I posted stats but didn't work

[chilly shore]

What's wrong with wanting to give stims to teammates?

[vague reef]

i see no reason to i mean you can do that in darktide lol

[iron bridge]

You got me blocked too, that is the funny part, you read every 1 of my messages too. You can’t get enough of me

[vague reef]

you know i can still see your chat dude lol so obviously i am not blocking you unless you want me to

[iron bridge]

[vague reef]

good talk lol

[chilly shore]

If Assault is gonna get an extra stim at least allow us to boost a teammate or a squadmate with it we might have better odds of taking the objective

[iron bridge]

You should block me, you opened a full discussion, but failed to address any points made by other side. Your IQ seems to be room temp

[vague reef]

i feel like if you stim them they can't see the players that it highlights but they get your healing stim regen ..... could be pretty supportish though and i like the concept of it

ah i see anti still throwing insults around like a child ...... he strokes his ego ......seems accurate by nature

[chilly shore]

You think stims would do more than a faster health regen like maybe damage reduction?

[quartz fossil]

The Lion strokes his ego

[broken raptor]

hi

[chilly shore]

Ay

[exotic trench]

hello oli

[vague reef]

in the internet we see a wild anti postrateing his aura like a edgy preteen marking his territory.

[sand nymph]

Hello all

[iron bridge]

My ego? I’ve got every reason to have one. You, on the other hand, are just living in a delusional state thinking you’re something special.

[abstract walrus]

[vague reef]

i never thought my self in being special ......or even close to that ....

[chilly shore]

I don't mind assault getting a different kind of support role either the guy who will bring his squad mate closer to the front or giving teammates a small boost before storming the objective with the best odds of surviving longer

[vague reef]

legit anti right now

[abstract walrus]

Is it October 10 yet?

[quartz fossil]

They should have separated healer and ammo provider

[chilly shore]

3 weeks left, just hang in there brother

[iron bridge]

So stop spewing your delusional takes that have zero foundation in your gaming skill or ability to interpret the state of the game

[abstract walrus]

I thought maybe 2025 was that much closer to being over but.. lol

[chilly shore]

Once we get to October 10 you can have all the ribbons in the match

[abstract walrus]

appreciated

[iron bridge]

You can’t tell me your opinion has any value if you can’t make yourself valuable to the team

[abstract walrus]

I'm a good sharer, too

[chilly shore]

I wanna see the ribbons again in BF6

[quartz fossil]

ARE RIBBONS NOT IN BF6 YET WTF MAN

[worn marten]

They did kind of back themselves into a corner with its design, kind of hard to fit the players’ ideal now

[abstract walrus]

yeah quite keen on seeing what's been done since the open beta

[quartz fossil]

no way we're not gonna have ribbons at launch right

No way

[chilly shore]

Seeing the ribbons make me happy

[vague reef]

i'm sorry what is delusional to you when it's an opinion ? i mean are you the type of person to not have open discussions but then throw k/d around like its a COD game ? where's your arguement other than stroking your virtual ego around thinking you are special kid ? i think the only delusional person is you

[abstract walrus]

If it's a choice, I want them choosing gunplay, map design, and everything else over ribbons

(obviously I choose everything)

[harsh elk]

What's up all!

[quartz fossil]

Bro ribbons are comically simple to implement compared to the others

[chilly shore]

Fair enough

[abstract walrus]

lol I agree it shouldn't be any kind of big deal

[quartz fossil]

Every Battlefield game in existence has had ribbons

Unacceptable not to have them on launch imo

Hope it's just WIP now

[abstract walrus]

wait is there actually a chance there aren't ribbons at launch? what did I miss

[vague reef]

let's hope i don't see cancer cosmetic skins like niki minaj in bf6

[chilly shore]

The ribbons give you that dopamine

[abstract walrus]

everything in a game these days is built to trigger dopamine

[iron bridge]

🥱 you starting to sound like a broken record. You failed to respond to suppression fire discussion, sweet spot discussion

[quartz fossil]

Dev literally said no nicki minaj so ye

[abstract walrus]

hit markers, hit markers going red with a hs, score tallies from minor accomplishments, ribbons,...

[chilly shore]

Hope it stays that way

[quartz fossil]

It will Battlefield community is more mature than COD and rightfully complains when they try that shit

They couldn't do it in 2042 they won't in bf6

[abstract walrus]

in fairness i'm not sure if 2042 was a proper testbed given the other issues but I do agree with your point

[exotic trench]

there has been worse shit after cancelling santa boris tbh

[abstract walrus]

dammit I wanted santa boris though... and christmas tree casper 😄 😄

[iron bridge]

You just started rambling like a maniac. How can anyone have a normal discussion when the person in front of you can’t even comprehend what’s happening, yet still fabricates a narrative to suit their POV

[broken raptor]

ello

[vague reef]

i think the arguement in supression fire should be added still like how it hinders you from firing back when you are supressed ......i mean if you wanna argue this out you could counter that also with blind firing and hoping you hit someone lol but it really depends on many factors ....like how i could smoke your enclosed space and make you blind to a flank or smoke then someone throw c4 in a smoked area to blow people up ? people are hunkered down in a small space are dead and the only factor of getting out of that is killing the one suppressing you

[broken raptor]

not sure if i can say the rest of that lol

[iron bridge]

Yeah, trust me, the suppression fire does not make you impactful

[vague reef]

do i think suppression should hinder you on firing back ? yes......should it be a useful strat ? yes......will people do it ? probly most likely not if they are a COD kid.

[chilly shore]

Can't wait to reunite with my AK

[iron bridge]

You use it as a mechanism to cope

[eager tapir]

ik this is off topic but how far have you guys gone in the free pass in BF42?

[iron bridge]

How is suppression fire a useful stat, why should you get rewarded for being bad?!

[vague reef]

completed it as long as you complete your weekly its possible to get it completed

[eager tapir]

yeah im trying, i'm like 2 weeks behind

[last breach]

What is this BS I hear about no console-only crossplay? Is that true?

[white moss]

I have also completed it. And then went and got the robot for boris

[exotic trench]

arent the next 2 weekends triple xp weekends anyway?

[last breach]

done since last Friday

[vague reef]

you can do console only crossplay they didnt deny that unless they changed that statement ?

[iron bridge]

Brick wall has better arguments to be fair

[chilly shore]

You think BF6 would make another collab with CS2 like what they did with 2042?

[iron bridge]

Better grammar too

[vague reef]

ah he be yapping again he sounds like one of those passive agressive npc's you just wanna turn off

[white moss]

What was the Collab? What outfit did you get?

[eager tapir]

very nice!

[iron bridge]

#stats

Please check in first

I want to see your 5% accuracy

Absolutely criminal teammate

[chilly shore]

Nah, mostly a sticker capsule

[last breach]

https://www.dexerto.com/battlefield/ea-confirms-battlefield-6-wont-have-console-only-crossplay-after-all-3252439/

[velvet dawn]

it was in CS2 not in BF

[iron bridge]

You the type of player sbmm be throwing into my team, no wonder I can’t win games

[chilly shore]

CSGO Phoenix skin in BF6 when? (Jk don't)

[white moss]

Ya so it's either all cross play or no cross play

[exotic trench]

does bf6 have stickers/charms?

[white moss]

Yes

Didn't get any of the stickers off beta though.

[vague reef]

honestly i kinda see why they didn't do that .....because they made it harder for pc players to cheat now .....since all bf games are now transitioning from regular game net security t using a secure boot kernal protection ....... meaning pretty much if a game file is modified via after secure boot the javil anti cheat will identify and automatically ISP ban you

[last breach]

There should be console only crossplay. It sucks to play against PC.

[white moss]

Or how about input cross play

[eager tapir]

Damn, i just got a PC today and i already have BF42 on my xbox and I wanna get BF6

[iron bridge]

Are you roleplaying as a neck beard with all these dots? What is going on lad?

[white moss]

I'm getting old cause I was about to say 1942 never came to Xbox

[last breach]

on 2042 when I'm surrounded by smoke and still get shot or when I'm behind cover and get shot through walls it is always a PC player and I doubt they are all cheating

[eager tapir]

LMAO, sorry i was talking about BF2042

[tidal hound]

I mean during bf6 beta console players kept blaming their death on PC players, but they were matching with console players 99% of the time because it is console priority.

[white moss]

No I know.

[vague reef]

they could be soft cheating lol i mean idk how true this is but i know people found tracking programs that track a hitbox center mass which bypasses a bit of the anti cheat since it looks for cheaters with high headshot counts in a succession.

[iron bridge]

Another delusional take. Of course you don’t know the first thing about cheats or how cheap it is to bypass. Oh well, the 0.5 kd omnibus strikes again, infinite source of knowledge.

[tidal hound]

Meanwhile my 5k/d account on COD rarely ever gets matched against cheaters, and that's with SBMM. On MP, not f2p warzone.

Cheating is wildly overblown

Most of them get caught before they even get in a match

[iron bridge]

Okay, thank you for telling me! I sure wanted to know

[runic venture]

only complaints i saw during open beta was "omfg roof glitch abusers!"

[iron bridge]

Have you ever played any fps games at a high competitive level? You must be living in a different dimension

[velvet dawn]

unless you play games without Kernel level anti cheat like CS2

[tidal hound]

free to play games are obviously different with the cheating situation...

[iron bridge]

if somebody wants to cheat, they will, the price ain’t the problem

[vague reef]

plus there was a map that you could phase in to be under the map ....or phased into a rock surface

[iron bridge]

According to this logic, I should get banned for my 91.8 headshot rate

[vague reef]

is that after your bot matches in portal ?

[velvet dawn]

Exactly why CS2, Warzone, Apex or even Valorant and the upcoming Firestorm 2 will be just a testing ground for cheaters. and it'll most likely spill over to BF6 MP too

[iron bridge]

#stats

[tidal hound]

Warzone has heaps of cheaters. COD MP doesn't.

[vague reef]

def not the point they are making though

[tidal hound]

My point though, is that not half the PC playerbase is cheating like a lot of people seem to think

[iron bridge]

You listed competitive games in the same sentence as 4fun arcade shooter, excluding 1

[tidal hound]

There's probably less than 1% that get through and play a match in a paid game

but everyone that has ever killed me is cheating

[vague reef]

yeahhhhh i can agree with that about maybe less than half are cheating......maybe lol its not an accurate assumption mind you just that you tend to get cheaters if they are the lazy type or looking to exploits for EA/DICE a.k.a blackhats to help expose such

[iron bridge]

What kind of delusional statement is this? Can we not leave the messages half written

[velvet dawn]

Yes I did. As long as the game has an competitive element, whether it's W/L, K/D or anything else there will be cheaters

[tidal hound]

I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious.

[iron bridge]

You are wrong, there is nothing to gain out of cheating in bf

[runic venture]

yeah on glint peak there was such a rock and on iberian offensive there was a missing step so you could get under them

[tidal hound]

Maybe it's just my region though. China is notorious for having a lot of cheaters. Here in OCE there are barely any. I would not be surprised if NA has a higher % of cheaters

[velvet dawn]

I know that for you or me there isn't. But some just enjoy the power fantasy it brings them. On top of that there will also be the people who enjoy the challenge of making unnoticeable cheats.

[tidal hound]

(Notice how I said % and not total number)

[iron bridge]

No, it’s not. Just reading your messages leaves a sour taste in my mouth, the same as the other guy. Feels like I’m talking to some extra-terrestrial beings

[tidal hound]

"Everyone else is the problem except me" ahh energy

[iron bridge]

You can’t tell me cod ranked wasn’t filled with cheaters

Like I didn’t play it and didn’t experience it myself in top 100 lobbies

[tidal hound]

I never played ranked COD because that's a joke of a game lol

80% of the game is banned

[iron bridge]

[velvet dawn]

What are we fighting about next?

[tidal hound]

Lets get back to complaining about the phantom skin changes

[iron bridge]

You’re an extra-terrestrial being, living in a fish tank, clueless about the world outside, yet still expressing opinions. You say 80% of the game is banned, but before that, claimed cheating is overblown. Make it make sense

[tidal hound]

I mean 80% of the guns, perks etc are banned

[iron bridge]

I’m talking to an actual alien

[tidal hound]

There's literally 1-2 AR's and SMG's that are usable. Snipers are banned. Smokes are banned.

[velvet dawn]

yeah definitely talking about the BF series sounds better than whining about the state CoD is in XD

[iron bridge]

Why did I even expect an anime pfp to have a logical thought process?

[reef bolt]

anybody know the changes to the phantom skins? looks like its just the quad nogs that got changed to me and slightly less red

[velvet dawn]

This is why most BF players don't want open classes, right? Just meta gun build after meta gun build. Not a good way to balance according to class specialization.

[quartz fossil]

There is no difference between open or closed system the game plays 99% the same tbh

People will use the OP guns no matter what. Carbines are some of the best weapons in the game and every class has access to them even in Closed Weapons.

[tidal hound]

I mean in COD ranked case, you literally can only choose like 2 AR's, the rest are unselectable

[reef bolt]

i feel like gadgets have always been the defining thing when it comes to classes

[quartz fossil]

They have been yes

[reef bolt]

literally doesnt matter what weapon u run since ur role is literally dependent on ur gadgets

[quartz fossil]

Medic is OP in both closed or open weapons systems the class is fundementally too powerful because infinite heals and ammo doesnt matter what gun they use

[tidal hound]

gonna use a sniper with medic gear and sit on a hill solo all game

[quartz fossil]

This never happens and isn't really that useful

You get HS by a Recon and you cannot be revived

Most snipers will be Recon even in Open Weapons

[tidal hound]

Not the point. Point was, weapon does matter in how you play your class

[exotic trench]

ye but that person would sit there regardless

[reef bolt]

gadgets determine role, weapons determine effectiveness in that role imo

itd be a medic w a sniper but it wouldnt be a good medic w a sniper

[tidal hound]

That effectiveness can be anywhere between 0 and 100 though

0 being there from game design is the problem

[exotic trench]

open and closed playlist literally played the same

[reef bolt]

ive never noticed a substantial difference between open/locked classes in any bf type game simply because people flock to meta weapons or the shitter weapons of the class

speaking of which #buffshotguns

[trim rose]

Anybody in here get invites in the latest round of play?
They improve up one the heli controls?

[reef bolt]

they should one tap everyone in the users fov

[long bolt]

#battlefield-labs-discussion

[velvet dawn]

Yes I see that. probably the best way to balance between classes would be to give the carbines to Engineer. Sounds ridiculous maybe, but that way the rifle calibers could be somewhat balanced with the classes. Meaning assault's mid range ARs, support's slow ADS, big mag LMGs and the engineers' hard hitting, but somewhat inaccurate carbines. Which would leave only the specialty weapons, being long range snipers/DMRs and short range SMGs to be used in either the bigger or smaller maps respectively.

[trim rose]

Thank ya

[spiral forge]

https://youtu.be/rzKqz2CHIDs?si=0wkMfV_oA2nEPs6-

[velvet dawn]

BUT, and that's a THICC BUTT. there will not be class based balancing so why bother

[frozen thorn]

I am back, they could only mute me for so long

[chilly shore]

Imagine Battlefield Ai Bots adapting to player tactics

You could be fighting conscripts on the first few minutes then moments later you're fighting the GRU

[frozen thorn]

I should glitch in a corner to throw them off

[velvet dawn]

or GROM

Polska Gurom!

I'm not even Polish...

[chilly shore]

The US marine corp, the Scout Ranger Regiment

[plush lichen]

Weeks ago I stated how I wished recon got the mortar binoculars, which was from bad company I think. You would look and drop artillery on a house and level the house filled with enemies. Lol

Well its back, I got it in the ring of fire mode or whatever and a helicopter landed on the roof of the tower I was in. I opened the door and watched the 4 guys set up defense and snipe people. And I thought I could steal the copter but instead I used the mortar goggles on the copter and ran. And it destroyed the whole team, helicopter and roof. Lol

Greatest feeling in the world!. So happy its back in the game!!

[chilly shore]

Maybe the SAs

The idea of a bot adapting to real players can be a scary experience

[velvet dawn]

some Black Mirror shit that

[chilly shore]

you could be fighting a B1 battle droid then out of nowhere you're up against a Commando droid that could even body a Jedi

like a Republic Trooper soloing a sithlord

terrifying but a thrilling experience considering you're up against a machine who can learn your moves in seconds

adapting to tactics normally done by players

fighting like a goddamn chess bot

[velvet dawn]

Imagine joining as a clone commando thinking you're the hottest gear on the field and having a Scorpenek droid spawn before the last objective

Vader's bounty hunter team hunting you down after clapping some storm troopers

[chilly shore]

imagine Battlefront maps recreated in BF6 portal

US marines fighting in Geonosis

The Sepratist droid army fight in the Trenches of Ukraine

[velvet dawn]

If they keep all the features of the Godot engine for portal. I wouldn't be surprised if someone recreates the Battlefront reboot maps XD

That would be awesome

[quick willow]

Are the high res textures only for the overkill settings? Also did anyone see a noticeable difference between ultra and overkill?

[chilly shore]

recreating the Battle of Felucia

The US marine fighting in Felucia

6 days in Felucia

I honestly think pick up weapons and secret reloads should return to bf6

[lucid mist]

secret reloads were in 2042 so I dont see why they wouldnt in 6

[green pawn]

wtf why nerf the movement ? game gonna be slow aaf

[frozen thorn]

Nah

[frail burrow]

It's fine. BF4 is already twitchy even without the newgen movement mechanics. I can imagine BF6 being as fast, if not faster.

[runic venture]

Less ADHD movement is a good thing. Nothings more annoying to play than some guy flying mach10 speed across the map juiced up on 69 cans of monster to clip farm for his 10 tiktok followers

[sudden prism]

so you saying 2024 is better than bf6

[sharp sigil]

Just turn fov all the way up. Itll feel fast

[runic venture]

2042 is polar opposite of bf6, hell no that game is slop

[velvet dawn]

They didn't "nerf" the movement. Only tweaked some things that weren't supposed to be in the game to begin with. Like 10 meter long jumps, B-hopping, shooting/accuracy while in the air and slide cancelling into another jump.
Basically the movement is the same. Exploits are not.

[ocean sedge]

I was supposed to work night shift on the 10th, so I booked vacation. Just got approved!

[sharp sigil]

has server issues all day

[frozen thorn]

Got the day off too

[somber heath]

Haya boys and girls. I just pre ordered bf6. When can I download the game ?

[green pawn]

great

[green pawn]

i think enders over saturated it it then lol

[velvet dawn]

I saw difference when downsampling. I put the game on 2k but I played on 1080p, this made the game look way less blurry but of course ate my fps. but I found it to be worth it for the clarity

[strong echo]

Damn lucky u, I'm working 10, 11, 12, 13 💀 I'm gonna be tweaking at work

[velvet dawn]

Youtubers and their clickbait commentary...

[frozen thorn]

Streamers opinions are worth nothing

Unless of course I agree with them

[frozen thorn]

I put "PTFO" for my reason to have the day off

[strong echo]

Oh yea that's convincing 👍

[frozen thorn]

I think they thought I meant to put in PTO

[strong echo]

What does that mean then 💀

[quick willow]

you play on 1080p or do you play on 1440p but use DLSS quality?

[velvet dawn]

I play on 1080p monitor but 1440p sharpness. No DLSS or any other upscaling because I don't want the extra latency in multiplayer games.

[frozen thorn]

Also, health regen was cut in half so thats nice to see. Still a bit fast imo, but much better. Ill wait and see how it actually plays out since it may be decent

[proper hawk]

is there a new labs?

[velvet dawn]

not in labs but nice to hear that the team play is still priority when it comes to healing and ammo.

the open class system is meh... but my opinion doesn't matter at this point. Good thing that at least the classes get to keep their attributes

[inner sluice]

I hope they bring back air superiority

[velvet dawn]

I wouldn't hold my breath. Better hope that some type of air superiority becomes a "verified gamemode" in portal

[inner sluice]

I'm not. It's my favorite game mode on any BF game. I was disappointed to see that it died when people moved on

From BF4

[chilly shore]

I heard about escalation, looks amazing ngl

[merry anchor]

This is the first game (like any game) I’ve been excited about since I was in school a decade ago

[merry anchor]

Conquest but round based with increasingly more chaos and destruction as the map gets smaller. I’m game!

[chilly shore]

hell yeah

[inner sluice]

I think the same since Black Ops 3 until I realized it wasn't a good game

[merry anchor]

How do yall feel about the ease of destruction with the sledgehammer?

[chilly shore]

I might have to pick up BF6

sadly I don't got the eddies to get the game

[merry anchor]

I was huge into zombies back then and bo3 was arguably the best zombies. Especially with zombies chronicles and custom maps

[chilly shore]

but I'm halfway through getting it

[inner sluice]

I never liked zombies since I was bad at it so I stuck with multiplayer and the campaign

[velvet dawn]

maybe a couple more hits would make it a bit more balanced

[tidal hound]

DLSS upscaling reduces latency though. More fps = less latency.

[velvet dawn]

wtf...

[tidal hound]

Not to be confused with Frame Gen.

Though in bf6, if you're CPU bound like most people, DLSS isnt going to increase fps anyway

[oblique oak]

Agreed, bit silly to see bonk bonk, ope there goes half a building

[merry anchor]

I was chronically sick when I was in middle school (missed about 80% of it and taught myself at home) and I spent easily 8 hours a day playing bo1 and bo2 zombies everyday.

[merry anchor]

That’s not how latency works. But it can ease up the graphics processing load which in turn can drop the latency from native by like 1-2ms. Minimal and not noticeable, but there.

[tidal hound]

Yeah I mean generally. And the latency reduction gets diminishing returns

[velvet dawn]

thanks I always forget that these two don't go hand-in-hand anymore

[tidal hound]

30 > 60fps has much better latency reduction than 60>90 despite the same fps gain

[merry anchor]

But more fps doesn’t equal less latency. That’s just blatantly incorrect.

More fps may have less perceived latency, but it doesn’t lower it

[tidal hound]

Nvidia has an easily accessible PC Latency overlay which you can easily see the latency reduction for yourself

[frozen thorn]

I only care for Support being able to carry an AR instead of an LMG.

[velvet dawn]

yeah frame gen just adds AI generated frames

[long bolt]

well low fps is harder to see the latency cos, "choppy screen"

[tidal hound]

More Native frames to be more precise.

Rasterized frames

[merry anchor]

Your GPU and cpu latency IS NOT decreased by fps. Please stop spewing misinformation

[tidal hound]

Literally just google it if you are too lazy to check for yourself in game?

[frozen thorn]

Issue isnt the sledge hammers, but the lack of a range of destruction in general. When part of a building gets destroyed, its either a wall or the entire siding/façade. Also Idk why it only take a single hit for the floor to break

[merry anchor]

I know how computers work dude. Wouldn’t be surprised if I’ve been building and overclocking pc’s longer than you’ve been on the planet.

[velvet dawn]

I'd like the support to be somewhat tanky, since they have to stay still a lot, they have a medkit and ammo, but they also should have the option to go faster, like smaller magazine rifles, (RPK and IAR)

[tidal hound]

Build and overclock PC's but incapable of using google or spending 10 seconds testing it in game

[quick willow]

I think DLSS 4 doesnt add any or almost none latency.

[merry anchor]

Did you find your “facts” on Wikipedia? Having a higher latency DOES NOT decrease your GPU or CPU latency. All it does is change the perceived latency because it’s tracking more data points per second.

[quartz fossil]

DLSS should never add latency

[frozen thorn]

This would make sense for supply box and deployable cover paired with an LMG. You can hold down a position pretty well. Biggest issue are that you need to be pretty mobile with defibs unless everyone decides to die within 1m of you

[quartz fossil]

Frame generation adds input delay NOT DLSS

Two different things

[tidal hound]

I said higher native FPS reduces PC latency.

[merry anchor]

Yeah I wish it was more like R6 destruction with it so you can just put a small hole if you want

[merry anchor]

Pc latency is your cpu and gpu latency…not perceived latency

[tidal hound]

And yet when you enable FG and that PC latency goes up, it is very noticable.

[merry anchor]

If you also want to add in display latency, drive latency, ram latency, etc you can

[tidal hound]

Or when I cap to 60fps from 200, the input lag is noticable.

[quartz fossil]

Frame generation is dogshit and you shouldn't use it especially in an FPS multiplayer game

[velvet dawn]

Yeah. According to testing DLSS lowers latency in certain games (Does DLSS Hurt Input Latency? - Hardware Unboxed, Youtube.)
I was wrong. Probably still thinking the old version of DLSS that came with FrameGen back in the day.

[quartz fossil]

Just drop your settings and manually lower resolution if you have to the input delay is horrid

[frozen thorn]

Probably would need an entire reworking of destruction, doubt we would see something like that in less than 6 months post launch.
If they nerfed the hammer I dont think it would be all that fun to use spending several hits trying to breach

[merry anchor]

I don’t think they would because they like their destruction. To be fair, I like the destruction too though. Not many fps games where you can completely alter the map over the span of a match.

[velvet dawn]

Yeah... This is mostly the reason players want the locked classes back. It would be way easier for devs to balance classes instead of weapons and classes.

[haughty oasis]

Is anyone in the same conundrum as me, I don't think I'll be able to be get the 2042 battle pass rewards for Battlefield 6 because my PS5 account isn't linked but my steam account is for bf6

Can anyone help me out on what I can do?

[merry anchor]

As long as your ps5 and steam is linked to the same EA account, you’re good

[frozen thorn]

Yeah its not bad, they may fine tune it in the next installment.

[haughty oasis]

Would my data for the bf6 beta be erased since I'd be unlinking my steam to then link the PS account?

[velvet dawn]

Ehh. can't see this happening at all tbh.

[tight prism]

Whatever version you are playing on must be linked to your EA account in order to receive any rewards from the pass.

You can link your Steam and PS account both to EA.

[merry anchor]

Why do you need to unlink steam to link the ps account?

[sharp sigil]

If you like this destruction, try out the finals. Their destruction is pretty cool too

[haughty oasis]

It says I believe only one can be linked at a time one sec I think I have a screenshot

[tidal hound]

Link your PS account to EA, and link your Steam account to the same EA account

[quick willow]

I think you mean future frame or frame gen

[haughty oasis]

idk if this will work

file:///C:/Users/ameza/Downloads/Link%20Accounts.pdf

probably not

[tidal hound]

DLSS = upscaler.
DLSSFG or just FG = frame gen. I dont know why people confuse themselves with "dlss4 is FG"

[velvet dawn]

BF as a series has always been about all-out-warfare and I highly doubt that they want to delve into that tactical shooter space, especially as tactical as R6 is.
Also good to remember that making as many destructible particles on a server as Battlefield's is not really reasonable.

[frozen thorn]

uhh

[tidal hound]

To me, dlss4 is upscaler transformer model specifically

[merry anchor]

I’ve got my PSN, Xbox, Steam, Discord, Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Twitch all linked to 1 EA account…you shouldn’t have an issue linking just PS and Steam.

[merry anchor]

Because people don’t think

[velvet dawn]

I said I was wrong and was thinking about the old DLSS versions that had FrameGen included

[quartz fossil]

@haughty oasis Like others are saying bro you are doing something wrong and unnecessary. You can have your PS5 and Steam linked to the same exact EA account. They all use the same account.

Link your PS5 account and don't unlink steam. Don't worry about it you won't lose any progress don't overthink this.

[velvet dawn]

Just put a pic of Keemstar and ask why am I still gettin hate

[merry anchor]

Oh I def don’t want them to become a tactical shooter like R6…I hate that game. But a sledgehammer shouldn’t take down a whole wall or floor with 1 hit. However, I do think it should at least put a hole because if you make it like 5 hits, someone is for sure gonna hear and you lose any tactical advantage.

[velvet dawn]

oh yes I agree completely. It's either gonna be 5 hits to take down a wall OR make a tiny hole

[frozen thorn]

@haughty oasis YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING

[velvet dawn]

but bringing half a house down with two hits is not it

[merry anchor]

I foresee them keeping it as is though (at least that’s the hope) because the only way to truly fix the problem is change the destruction mechanics. The only other fix is to make the sledgehammer not worth using

[haughty oasis]

Your accounts can’t be linked because your PlayStation™Network account GoldStrainz already linked to your EA Account for ############ An EA Account can only be linked to one PlayStation™Network account in its lifetime.

i get confused because I get this message and its not linked

[merry anchor]

So, your PlayStation network account is already linked to an EA account

[haughty oasis]

Hmmm

[velvet dawn]

I'm using the same account I used for BC2 and BF3 when playing on PS3, as long as you have an active EA account you can link it to steam.

[haughty oasis]

Damn

[merry anchor]

Sign into ea through the psn account

[velvet dawn]

I mean, just use youtube if nothing else works, skip the shorts and just watch a 1 minute video with a title "How To Easily Link PSN Playstation To Steam" or something
just as an edit. I didn't watch that video but do it. might help

[frozen thorn]

5 hits feel like too much in terms of stopping the game flow. The hammer should be viewed as "stealth" destruction. C4 and RPG make for more realistic, and faster destruction at the cost of some of the element of surprise. More efficient too to just blast a hole into the wall in less than 1 second, if it took 5 hits for the hammer, I think people would just not use it unless theyre in a cramped space and dont want to take splash damage from their own explosives.

Which reminds me, I think the most important map to actually see this in action hasnt been revealed too much yet. Supposedly, Manhattan Bridge w3ill have the most verticality in the BF6 maps. Or more like the only verticality from what ive seen so far

[haughty oasis]

Oh something is wrong my ps account musy be signed in with a old email shit

[quick willow]

Ohh gotcha 😉 well as long as you dont play boarderlands 4 youw ill be fine hahaha

[velvet dawn]

For me the hammer seemed more like a tool to get through roofs without spending too much Explosive ordinance. That's why I'm a bit skeptical of it's use when it comes to bringing down houses.
For me it seems like a tool to break a roof of a warehouse, drop that C4, flashes or nades and then jump in

[frozen thorn]

3 more long agonizing weeks

[velvet dawn]

fucking never XD Randy himself made sure of that

[frozen thorn]

It was either that or just leave it to be even more situational

[velvet dawn]

yeah, so now it's just another gadget to be nerfed in the coming weeks after launch

[frozen thorn]

It breaks the realism factor, but i think its fine as it is

Wait wtf, did you trick me into having an actual discussion on gameplay mechanics?

[velvet dawn]

yes

[grand breach]

I want leaning in the game

[velvet dawn]

no

[grand breach]

We alr got ladders and shi might as well input manual lean

[frozen thorn]

Alright, lets get this slow mode to 30 seconds again

[remote hatch]

How are those related in any way 💀

[frozen thorn]

You can have lean and play BF6

[grand breach]

I mean aye might as well throw it in

[velvet dawn]

it's fine but for balancing reasons couple more hits before quarter of a house is leveled wouldn't hurt

[remote hatch]

You already have leaning anyway in this game, peeking behind cover

[grand breach]

Yeah but I'd rather manually do it

[velvet dawn]

R6 lean spammer detected?

[grand breach]

Also I hope there's a test range like bf4

[velvet dawn]

there is

[grand breach]

RoN

[grand breach]

W

[frozen thorn]

Again, they gotta tweak their stuff so that the entire siding doesnt fall to everything. Im starting to suspect its put in that way for cinematic purposes

[velvet dawn]

my man

[velvet dawn]

BiS tac shooter

[velvet dawn]

Sliding?

[frozen thorn]

Yeah like the entire side of a building

[velvet dawn]

aaaah yea got it

[frozen thorn]

Doubt we would see a major change in the destruction this game.

Also, the crane in Mirak Valley is 100% Levelution. I wonder if we'll get any more of it in other maps. I know a lot of people were kinda over it in BF4 since it would mess up the layout of the map

[velvet dawn]

Yea but Dice also got a lot of complaints of it being too much

[tidal hound]

Crane is mostly cinematic and barely changes the map or how it's played

Dont think that is comparable to Shanghai and such maps at all

[velvet dawn]

that's probably why they tuned them down a lot. so those events wouldn't be so drastic

[frozen thorn]

Would be cool to see them do a Levelution themed season, but you know, with good map layout before and after. Not counting weather effects, no more Oman sandstorm

[velvet dawn]

some minimal changes here and there that can or cannot change the flow of the game. no major event's that turn the tide of the game in minutes

but that's kinda what the crane is

more spots from which to hold, but also more spots to hold onto. though the offensive spots on that map seemed to be lacking

[frozen thorn]

Some BF4 maps it worked really well, others was just a huge gimmick

[velvet dawn]

and some it ruined altogether, Shanghai being one of them

[late folio]

Most of the maps where hardly anything changed were the good ones, ironically.

[velvet dawn]

Kinda reminds me of the Mirak Valley now

Crane comes down, defenders get more spots.
only thing missing is more offensive angles

but I might be thinking in more competitive way

[frozen thorn]

Flood Zone got turned into Urban/Naval and we havent really seen that again since I dont think. I did like Paracel Strom how it drove a giant wedge into t flag and then added an AA.

[spare socket]

I actually think shanghai is a pretty well designed map

[frozen thorn]

We have 2 Labubus in the chat now?

[spare socket]

It just should have added ai AA guns in the spawns and replaced a tank on each team with an AA imo

Unsure why they didn't opt to do that

[late folio]

Not after the building collapses.

[frozen thorn]

• cant see anything

[spare socket]

I disagree. I think it's one of the best watermaps in the game

[blazing peak]

Please do a collab with sharknado

[spare socket]

Lancang dam is dog water by comparison to post fall shanghai given that's not a high margin

[frozen thorn]

I think they collaborated to get the same ratings

[late folio]

Most of the community disagrees. There were several servers that had bad mins banning people shooting the pillars

[frozen thorn]

Yeah that was bad no matter what

[velvet dawn]

I hated Shanghai after the fall

[late folio]

It was a popular unwritten rule of Shanghai to not collapse the building

[spare socket]

🤷‍♂️ Eh. Guess I'm in the minority.

The water dynamics offered tons of gameplay to avoid aircraft and flank. The points on both sides were SOOO cool and offered enough cover and dynamics to deal with infantry and vehicles. The tower was awesome for accessing the whole map. If you couldn't access the tower you blew it up to turn the central point into a water vehicle section. People say the tower being gone ruins the map but brother, it turns the map into a literal water map (which it already supported to some degree). It also adds extra boats for the tower fall to supplement mobility.

You blew up the tower if you couldn't take it because it genuinely gave that much of an advantage in point access.

[velvet dawn]

and here we go XD the reason I hated the map

[spare socket]

It was levolution that actually had a purpose in leveling the playing field

Because turns out a tower that gives advantage in accessing every point on the map and the other skyscraper ceilings is really good

And isn't "fun" for the receiving end

It's a tug of war but when it's clear that one team has air superiority or a good hold to control the tower. Just blow up the base and level the field. It's still a better water level than lancang dam

[frozen thorn]

I like how Dawnbreaker how an explosion so powerful it made the Sun rise. Only instant where visibility increased after Levelution

[spare socket]

Like I'm being dead serious lancang dam's layout

is a 1 to 1 of post fall shanghai but more spread out and way worse on the micro layout on the individual cap points themselves

[frozen thorn]

I only remember the flag by the building. Only one with anything going on there. Then there was a flag with an island that was a death sentence if you were infantry going alone

[spare socket]

lancang was just dog water, not a good water level

[frozen thorn]

I cant even tell if Im misremembering it having naval combat, it was that forgetable

[spare socket]

frankly when people say they hate shanghai more than lancang I lose my mind considering they share the same layout but one is way worse

[spare socket]

it had some boats but they kinda sucked since the layout didn't support it well. Only the center point was where they had action.

[frozen thorn]

Yep, sounds about right

[sharp sigil]

Hope they change the ramgefinder for recon. Shits too OP.

[spare socket]

I wish I could post images because they do in fact have a pretty 1 to 1 layout

the difference being you can actually access the central point via a land section for shanghai giving it more dynamics

and it's way more condensed so it's not this boring as hell treck

I would go so far to say lancang dam is the worst water map in the franchise among the modern bf games (post bad company 2)

[obsidian plinth]

Bonjour à tous ! Hello guys !

[frozen thorn]

No

[velvet dawn]

we just lived through the launch XD

[spare socket]

true shanghai at launch was.... the actual worst map in the franchise

[spare socket]

frankly I think the server crashes the tower fall had, resulted in ptsd from it lmao

It just furthers the sentiment of towerfall bad

[frozen thorn]

Idk, Bandar Desert was a 2042 map before it existed

[spare socket]

tbf bandar wasn't a dedicated water level imo

it had some routes with the water lanes and the right section of the map for sure

But those are so linear that there's no actual mobility for any naval vehicles

it's more a transport if anything

[velvet dawn]

Mr. EA or Dice are not very happy since we don't give them ideas for the upcoming BF

wait. yes we are. talking how great the previous games were

[spare socket]

they mostly want feedback from key community members and lab testers now.

Their "general consensus" feedback was in the beta

[velvet dawn]

the feedback was the pre-order numbers

[ebon plume]

we should NOT have preordered

[spare socket]

nah they like actually adjusted a lot of bf6 based on beta feedback tbh at least in the latest labs build if you check gameplay

[frozen thorn]

Nad Im just saying in general. The 1 flag for getting the gunship was way out in the middle of nowhere. Making that trek on foot was a nightmare

[spare socket]

Whose we?

[ebon plume]

us, the gamers

[spare socket]

uh huh

I didn't pre order shizz lmao

[velvet dawn]

YES.. NO... wtf, don't preorder anything from big companies

[ebon plume]

yeah your apart of the team

[tight prism]

I gladly did after the beta and thinking it over.

[ebon plume]

team fuck marketing team

[ebon plume]

you shouldnt have

[spare socket]

Tbh I'm probably going to buy it within the first week anyways. I just know I'm barely gonna play since I have a 6 hour long exam mid october

[ebon plume]

you shouldve stayed on team we will see if you deliver what we want

[normal echo]

kind of concerned the game is changing too much from the beta version personally..... like 25 new gadgets, recon losing deploy beacon, every non beta map being dramatically bigger/slower than the beta maps.... movement changes, aiming changes, weapon changes

[spare socket]

Why on earth would I boot up battlefield 6 like a week before one of the most life changing exams of my life lmao

[ebon plume]

exactly why you shouldnt pre order

[tight prism]

I do believe that is a choice for my wallet.

[ebon plume]

nah its my choice i think you lost it

[normal echo]

ooh and netcode changes

[ebon plume]

like why didnt you consult random phd

[normal echo]

like being on a weaker system, theres a real risk on vastly bigger maps and with netcode changes it won't run as smooth as beta did

[ebon plume]

well lod we have gotten really god at lod

[tight prism]

Very fair if pre ordering would distract you from that with it just being there.

Hopefully those exams go well!

[ebon plume]

what im worried about is that the beta was just to suck money from the gullible and the impatient

[frozen thorn]

If anything peopel were complaining about only showcasing the small maps and how fast pace it is

[spare socket]

I also get the benefit of other people playing the game for a week to let me determine the purchase too yk

[tight prism]

Fair fair.

[frozen thorn]

I also dont see anything wrong with the other things you mentioned

[spare socket]

no real reason for me to pre order. idc about the pre order bonuses

[normal echo]

i mean people who already liked battlefield games where saying that.... but beta was getting a massively bigger audiance than normal battlefield games

[velvet dawn]

"We are gritty, grounded, realistic shooter. That's what we intend to to be, and that's what we the game is going to look like for a while.

[spare socket]

I'm not gonna play for the first week of launch, Idc about pre order bonuses, and I would like to see the consensus on the game after a week.

So it kinda just works out for me not to preorder.

[normal echo]

personally i found even lib peak to be too big/boring more often than not

[tight prism]

Then yeah, definitely then. I like the bonuses, I got everything from the beta stuff to the twitch stuff, helped with destruction receipts despite the goal not being met and even tried getting that PSN one that was impossible to get despite not liking Sony.

[velvet dawn]

not enough it seems like XD

[tight prism]

I am all about the bonuses xD.

[spare socket]

I just know for a fact most skins pre launch I'm not gonna use post launch when certain skins and bp skins come out.

Except that beautiful bf4 chinese engineer.

[frozen thorn]

Thats like a vegetarian going to a burger shop to order a milkshake and fries and complaining that they have meat on the menu

[ebon plume]

i think its too arcady or has leaned too heavily into the arcade direction because they seen the numbers mw has pulled

a sign that marketing is making game dev descisions

[spare socket]

I'm on my knees praying that we can change our gender and race (mostly the former).

I wanna see that gas mask bf4 chinese engineer as a chick so bad.

[frozen thorn]

It hardly passed for large. Felt more medium with narrow lanes to get funneled in to.

[tight prism]

Sovereign Soldier my beloved.

[ebon plume]

no not even medium in my opinion like it was more a large small map

[scenic badge]

Im so disappointed that the kobra and coyote sights arent in bf6

[spare socket]

is that for support or assault?

[normal echo]

no, it's more like a formerly vegetarian shop finally offering meat, and it being really popular....... then the opening night they're 95% vegetarian again

[ebon plume]

they shoved 64 ppl into like 4sqft of space

[scenic badge]

Hold your horses

[spare socket]

no

[tight prism]

Still have no idea xD.

[tight prism]

Horse girls? Umamusume?

[velvet dawn]

no

[spare socket]

not even for you horse of wisdom shall I deter my desire to see a woman in a gas mask

[velvet dawn]

stop

[tight prism]

[frozen thorn]

I think if you played the BF3 beta and spent hours on Operation Metro, then on launch saw Caspian Border you would have an aneurysm

[velvet dawn]

you fckr XD

[spare socket]

real

The same "oh bf is copying cod" drivel has been around since bf3's beta

[tight prism]

Been called one many times in my life.

[normal echo]

just playing 2042 has inspired me to think all big maps are terrible.... don't get why having to hike 3 miles between objectives counts as good gameplay personally

[frozen thorn]

Every time someone mentions a CoD comparison, Close Quarters is hiding around a corner hoping it won't get brought up in the conversation

[velvet dawn]

but are you? hmm? XD

[spare socket]

big maps that offer good access to transport vehicles are good. You also have spawns on tanks and squad members

[frozen thorn]

To be fair 2042 is terrible

[spare socket]

Also yeah that

2042's map design is garbage on so many account

[normal echo]

definitely fair

[scenic badge]

I wanna see how downtown plays on bf6

[ebon plume]

yeah but to deny its leaned really far into the arcade direction is undeniable

[glad belfry]

I've struggled playing 2042 after 6 it feels .......dirty lol

[scenic badge]

It played well in bfh

[merry dove]

Also like, the infantry grinder maps have historically been some of the most popular maps across all modern installments

[spare socket]

It's not even just the concept of scale it's the degree to which 2042 does it and the lack of sandbox elements to make that scale function

[scenic badge]

Wrong ping?

[spare socket]

also the map design's insistence of open space for no reason without good terrain or cover dynamics

[tight prism]

Those of us who play it quite enjoy it.

[late folio]

Everytime someone complains about empire state I just bring up Operation 925

[spare socket]

empire has a special issue imo

[frozen thorn]

Yeah I don't doubt it. I think its still a mix of overcorrection from 2042 and that

[spare socket]

I actually think Empire is so close to being the best cqc map in the franchise

[ebon plume]

thats marketing thinking that a cod style bf will succeed

[late folio]

The layout and play movement is almost identical in nature.

[spare socket]

It just has onneeee tiny problem

[spare socket]

not exactly you forget point D

I've ranted about point D before but... that point is ass

[late folio]

That's why I said almost

[normal echo]

even as someone who LIKES CQB gameplay.... Empire State was objectively the worst map on beta by far. Holding out hope for a redesign

[late folio]

But they are very similar maps and yet people cry that it isn't a battlefield map as if close quarters dlc didn't exist.

[molten flint]

In my opinion, BF6 feels what I would expect a modern BF to feel like. Reason why I think this way is because BFV and BF2042 hopped on the modern movement Trends

[frozen thorn]

Ngl Metro meat grinder was great. I really dont know any other franchise that had it so you had to literally push the line and with a slight bit of luck you and your team could break through. Trench warfare without the trenches. This however was the exception to the norm, yet work out pretty well. Wouldnt mind it they had 1 designated Metro/Locker map in vanilla moving forward

[spare socket]

For context: Point D for the left team is an enormous advantage to start the game with. It leads directly into point C’s bridge. It’s also really close to point E relatively compared to point A.

-However, if the right side enemy team is able to mount an offensive you can’t defend point D. The spawn point for D is at the bottom of the flipping stairs.

If the right side team ever takes D the left side team has to generally approach from their spawn/A side. This is also at the bottom of the flipping stairs.

TLDR: Essentially the main issue with Empire State is the imbalance of a single capture point (D). It’s a tremendous advantage at the start of the game for the left team in accessing E and especially C. This advantage is rapidly lost if the right team takes it (which is easier for the right team to do since they have more angles of approach from E)

[ebon plume]

movement mechanics and movement speed are different

[normal echo]

I feel like this version of bf6 has more counterstrikey gun combat to it... in a good way