#battlefield-6

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frozen thorn
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Oh yeah, putting it on the nose will send them in a nose dive

dawn peak
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Hey guys, got an invite for the playtest on friday, but i need to click on the rsvp button to take part but i wont work?!?! Anyone got a fix for this problem or the same problem?

frozen thorn
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Also, friendly C4 on the cockpit messes with the first person UI so they have rectangles and blue icons in front of them

frozen thorn
dawn peak
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what's wrong with the a-10?

deep glade
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The a10 makes my thing tingle

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i mean

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it's aight

proper nexus
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Does anyone know from what time the game is available at 10-10

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Midnight ? Or later

errant fiber
proper nexus
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Thank you !

errant fiber
proper nexus
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Xddd

urban robin
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Battlefield 6 will shock the world to its core

errant fiber
urban robin
sudden prism
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I oddly would not mind if the game was delayed to mid november

errant fiber
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since I have a 6 hour exam I have to study for and take in mid october

sudden prism
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i would not mind if it was delayed until next year

urban robin
errant fiber
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it's so boring

urban robin
lusty tree
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Pain is temporary, success is permanent

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sudden prism
urban robin
lusty tree
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Bf6 will not only take over fps games, but it will teach all of em a lesson

sudden prism
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i wish they kept the beta running until the game officially launches

lusty tree
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HELL YEAH

errant fiber
tight prism
young tinsel
urban robin
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tight prism
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I like dentistry but some of the stuff on this exam has no actual relation to the field

errant fiber
lusty tree
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One of the most well paid jobs

spare socket
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I don't really wanna be a dentist exactly. I want more difficult procedures. The goal is maxillofacial surgery.

errant fiber
lusty tree
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In my country they turn golden

errant fiber
lusty tree
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This inflation gonna kill us all

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errant fiber
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some degrees of skull and mouth but mostly those 3

spare socket
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they would also say before its release that: yes this will be a steaming pile of dog water

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without even seeing gameplay I would argue

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I could detail that if you would be interested

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CursedCat I'm a nerd

urban robin
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yeah but 2042's failures and why bf6 is even remotely as good as it is has a lot to do with

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very odd choices from ea compounding with 2042

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and back pedaling on those choices with time, budget, a good dev lead with experience in the industry (vince zampella), etc for bf6

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the details of those choices range from the game lead of 2042 formerly being the game lead of candy crush mobile (ie a yes man) to covid railing the entire production in many spectacular ways to Executives feeling the game was "ahead of schedule" based on concept art

deep glade
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Well the BF6 devs haven’t touched a BF before

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deep glade
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Hence why it plays like cod

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deep glade
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From other titles

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some of the best veterans at respawn were repositioned to lead this game

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those fellas have been in the industry since the original cod leaving infinity ward after mw2 (2009)

deep glade
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Hence why the Frostbite engine was so hard work with for 42 lol

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No one left with the proper experience or expertise on it

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why EA would do an engine update for their game of a large scale with nobody experienced to work with it?

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now of all times (when they want to implement business practices that would cause veterans to leave)

solar nimbus
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who knows

solar nimbus
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i just dont see how its similar to cod at all lmao if i did the movement i did in cod in bf6 id usually always get gunned down because ADS times are so much slower after jumping or sliding

errant fiber
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One thing that has always confused me is how stakeholders can push for stupid mechanics that are universally distained within gaming circles. Like, given the amount of cash-money these people have, you'd think they'd be good at research and reasonably want the game to succeed so they can make money off of it.

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deep glade
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"ah yes we have this 128 player huge thing with major engine updates never before seen with a BR"

deep glade
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They just see numbers

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steady lynx
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I got an invite from BFlabs to test it out. How does it work? Has anyone done this before?

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tight prism
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stuff like that is what makes a game like 2042 only have 1 year and 3 months of actual post production development time

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the game being in concept and pre production for 3 years and 9 months is insane

deep glade
deep glade
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It’s large corporations that usually hold majority shares in EA, not individual shareholders

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They just have businesses analytics that look at their numbers and decide to execute or not

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deep glade
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Even Take Two (parent company of Rockstar Games) has share holder meetings. They also have to throw buzz words and expectations in there

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idk how any sane person thought having the game lead for your major ip should be someone whose only major prior work experience as a game lead was flipping candy crush mobile (this was for 2042)

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thank god it's no longer that person

worn marten
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solar nimbus
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genuinely insane how contradicting the marketing and lore/theme of the game was

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its so clear that there was a massive difference in who thought what about 2042

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deep glade
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An infinite cash stream

errant fiber
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2042 was in development prior to apex. It was originally slated to be the major BR game EA wanted to push

solar nimbus
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i also blame shitty deadlines for 2042s failure since the dev team were tasked to make a game JUST for BR but a year into dev they did the ol switcheroo and asked for a classic BF experience

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then they had the audacity to not give any more delays

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EA didn't put much effort into apex, respawn and Vince did. They screwed with it post launch once vince left handling apex.

worn marten
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it shifted from initally being a mainline BF game, to being a dedicated BR, to being a hero shooter, to being an extraction shooter with specialists as a monetization option.

solar nimbus
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but its still large enough to be a major reason

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thats even worse lmao

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imagine being a dev that just joined DICE and having to deal with all the changes

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kind snow
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It seems like 2042 will be more popular at launch but bf6 will be more positive

spare socket
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2042 was not popular at launch at all

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compared to prior titles

errant fiber
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static kindle
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is there any chane a BF2042 coin carried in BF6?

kind snow
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The amount of people playing and talking about it

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# kind snow Popular as in player count

again not popular at all. the talk surrounding the game was negative. the beta was poorly received. the initial player base was low. the player base rapidly dwindled within a month

static kindle
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i think bf6 cosmetic system is alot different so they probably wouldnt carry over

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camos coming back and supposedly different parts can be customised on the kits except the class identifiers

kind snow
deep glade
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Battlefield camos have always been lame

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solar nimbus
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skins should be paid/obtainable through challenges like in 2042

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or notorious

tight prism
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If you have some, best to use for tier skips at this point.

static kindle
kind snow
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Popular works fine for what I said either way doesn’t matter

errant fiber
tight prism
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That one camo I was able to access during the beta looked nice.

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# kind snow Popular works fine for what I said either way doesn’t matter

Language depends on social contexts and such, and using popular language negatively in some contexts could work. But when comparing two titles like bf6 and 2042 directly you should use language with more subtext/connotation imo.

It's like saying a hearty welcome or a cordial reception mean the same thing. They technically do but the connotations behind them paint distinct imagery and feelings.

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deep glade
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Breakpoint is ass compared to wildlands imo

solar nimbus
errant fiber
deep glade
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lol what

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warm barn
static kindle
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tight prism
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Payday 3, what a disappointment. Single player is still technically a "beta."

errant fiber
# deep glade lol what

My PC at the time wasn't the best so when me and a few friends went to assault a convoy in a heli they all died while the enemies didn't render for me so therefore I was immortal and could revive all of them and I happened to be eating ice cream irl at that time.

rose pier
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Is BF price gonna stay 69.99 after release as well?

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warm barn
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rose pier
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IIRC BF doesn't go on sale for almost a year after release

warm barn
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I’ve been playing since 1942 so it’s good to see the game going back to a decent place

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That's generally how these games get their best price drop offs

static kindle
warm barn
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Beta was great but not holding my breathe

solar nimbus
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and it was really easy to do

kind snow
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rose pier
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unique parrot
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I'm not preordering tbh

warm barn
kind snow
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Either way if you like the game and know you will play it might aswell preorder

rose pier
unique parrot
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they r working on a new Ghost Recon game

unique parrot
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... and Div 3

errant fiber
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warm barn
unique parrot
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preorder price is never more than launch price

warm barn
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yea

warm barn
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Bring it back personally they we’re great

mint valley
# solar nimbus if they do stuff like giving us irish's tombstone skin for free itd be peak

honestly, there needs to be an option for the skins:
1 - keep skins on
2 - toggle skins off
3 - toggle skins on, but only what you want to see so that you can see those who are wearing those specific skins. example, i can only see the no-pat skin in the nato assault, the bf3 us recon in the nato recon, the bf4 chinese support on the pax armata support, and the bf4 chinese engineer on the pax armata engineer (customization)

warm barn
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Some were shit some were OP

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mint valley
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i want nato to stay as tan and green while pax as black and whatever color the player wants

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kind snow
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solar nimbus
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its a really thin line but i genuinely believe anime/cartoon skins could be a thing if theyre just spray painted onto the vehicle/weapon very subtly

mint valley
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i think 2042 handled it well without breaking the immersion too much

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most of the skins the game sells or allows you to earn generally make you just... not ever equip the pre order skin

mint valley
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ok jk on the anime girls

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mint valley
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but all jokes aside, having anime girls as a skin is going too far

better to have a police skin running around than that

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solar nimbus
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having the actual characters as they are in bf6 is way too much

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which is why id rather them just be spray paints or smth

tidal hound
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Anime girl gun skins are fine. In general gun skins can be more loose

mint valley
# kind snow Wdym

i'd rather be boots on the ground and be a nameless soldier than play as captain price

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# kind snow Wdym

as in like their actual character from the show appear in the game itself and not as artwork or a separate decal/skin

kind snow
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kind snow
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But same thing so yea

tidal hound
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You're not seeing what gun skin another player has unless it's like the current BO6 trash

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I like cosmetics that fit the tone/vibe of the artstyle/aesthetic.

Halo and Battlefield have clear benchmarks for things that are clearly within and outside of the artstyle of those games

solar nimbus
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theres plenty of cases where soldiers customise their own guns and vehicles with drawings or decals so i dont really mind a lil personality thats in the same form factor

deep glade
kind snow
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like halo straight up can do samurai esque armor (it has). The original halo was inspired by 90s to 80s pop culture including gundam and anime for a lot of its aesthetic choices.

errant fiber
solar nimbus
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i feel like warframe does cosmetics well, allowing verified creators on steam to make their own models whilst fitting the tone of the game

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kind snow
tidal hound
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kind snow
# urban robin

Kj don’t lie, you have a anime as your banner you love anime girls

deep glade
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How would a locally hosted skin be free

urban robin
kind snow
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vapid linden
urban robin
kind snow
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The banana bee ??

deep glade
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deft zephyr
urban robin
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knotty grotto
urban robin
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albeit theres a possibility where that isnt the case

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mint valley
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Hell I used to hate honey dew but then I discovered the rare 1% instance you get truly fully ripe honey dew

solar nimbus
errant fiber
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I hope they stick to realistic, grounded skins. I don't care that there are velcro cat ears some people put on their FAST ballistic helmets in Ukraine, or that some guy in Afghanistan put an anime girl sticker on his rifle. I don't think it belongs in the type of game Battlefield strives to be.

solar nimbus
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(joke)

urban robin
short gust
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serious question, how will we recongnise the enemy based on uniforms after BF6 release with skins?

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urban robin
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solar nimbus
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bf2042 kinda just did it for nostalgia bait

tidal hound
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Boomers having an aneurism when they get told Battlefield has always been an arcade shooter

solar nimbus
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when has it not been

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urban robin
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no joke they're a breed of apple that was intentionally cross bred by the university of minnesota's apple breeding program.

tidal hound
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A lot of people think BF is a milsim

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errant fiber
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there's straight up battlefront 2 "milsims" and I'm like

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y'all are cringe

errant fiber
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At most it's a realism-leaning arcade shooter.

deep glade
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And I rarely use that term

deep glade
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Realism is getting blown up by a tank and getting defibrillated

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solar nimbus
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although i do wish more infantry actually gathered around the tank to push and use it as cover

urban robin
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i feel like people underestimate how good a full squad on a tank and an ifv on one team could be when trying to push or hold objectives

deep glade
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tidal hound
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there's also bad roleplays

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we don't talk about those

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It's like saying milisms suck (relative to things like bf milsims and battlefront 2 milsims) when arma exists

solar nimbus
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I don't even like arma

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but still it has its audience

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deep glade
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Well that is a different sort of roleplay, when it’s just structure like that

spare socket
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They insisted on 4 rematches and got murdered every time

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They had stupid rules like: oh you can't play x class unless you're y rank.

ohhh you can't use these guns or this star card.

OHHH only the top rank players (the ones who sucked balls at the game) can play the heroes

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meanwhile me and my friend Vesh just molly wopped them as Anakin and obi wan with our other 18 buds railing them with all the tools the game's sandbox had ā˜ ļø

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hell we even had a bot to play star wars music in the background (we switched to fortunate son and immigrant song when we boarded their capital ship and blew it the hell up)

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truly wonderous times

versed rock
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I wonder what battlefield could of been as a milsim

tight prism
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Probably HLL.

deep glade
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Yeah, or Insurgency even

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And Squad

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deep glade
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HLL still plays like battlefield lol

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frankly idk how it would release the time it did as a milsim

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the technology for that wasn't really there at the time

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it made its mark being what it was at the scale it was at the right time

daring basin
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and mostly continued innovating its franchise from there

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versed rock
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Popularity, sales, sure would be much less. However, as a game could it be better. I feel, it’s a paradox, an arcade type game would obviously sell better. Although, on the other hand, I feel a milsim would ā€˜enhance’ the Battlefield experience. But that being said, would be a greater contradiction to the ā€˜games’ objectives set out by EA ect.

deep glade
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I love when blueberries bomb the objective and get 9 friendly kills and 0 enemies

versed rock
deep glade
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And use all the ammo resources

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Always give them a good old headshot when I play as commander

knotty grotto
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a milsim is not what battlefield is

lusty tree
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Dun dundun dun

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battlefield started as a fun arcade shooter

deep glade
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and still is. It's all about a crazy fun bombastic sandbox mixed with moments of strategy and coordination

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a RenDezook and sending a c-4 tank to the top of shanghai tower are as much battlefield moments as the slower and more tactile gameplay

knotty grotto
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Only in battlefieldā„¢

lusty tree
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Don't forget attaching c4 to a jeep

deep glade
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Did my first RenDezook two days ago, jumped out and RPG’ed the enemy

stable remnant
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strategy

knotty grotto
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Cant even fly planes ;-;

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deep glade
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Jet

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And got back in my jet

spare socket
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I never got a tank on top of shanghai. But I did get an LAV once

lusty tree
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I removed all the enemies with an attack helicopter

spare socket
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the fellas and frankly the whole server were losing it lol

lusty tree
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On Shanghai

outer thistle
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Battlefield subreddit is controlled by EA, as soon as you critique map size you get shadowbanned

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i can type anything else, anywhere no problem

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as soon as I critique BF6 I get shadowbanned

lusty tree
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Really?

outer thistle
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yes

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i made two comments

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one with BF3 helicopter looking at kharg island

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and one with bf6 helicopter looking at liberation peak

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for comparison only

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instantly got shadowbanned

lusty tree
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How u knew u were shadowban

spare socket
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and you're certain you didn't use any particular language?

outer thistle
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you have stats under comments on newer version of site, no views at all, your profile picture gets hidden and you cant use messaging system

warm barn
outer thistle
lusty tree
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Damm

outer thistle
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some mf posted how BF2042 had very bland and boring looking maps

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and it had bunch of upvotes

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outer thistle
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i am no fan but they were very pretty

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and you have instantly some dudes agreeing

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i see people popping up the "looks like bf1" comments as well

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i am like...where? how does mirak look like bf1? just because it has trenches?

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anyone who though sobek was big will be furious on release, mark my words

willow lance
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Real war is miserable, video games should be fun

outer thistle
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people should watch ukraine war if they want to see mil simulator in real time

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its just bunch of young men dying to drones

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bf3 was most realistic shooter of all time, the only difference was instead of drone its ah1z viper farming people at caspian border/noshahr canals

versed rock
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willow lance
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Nah

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You need EA account but that's it, you won't need EA app

sterile salmon
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It just installed it for me and runs via both lmao

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Alice it's basically the same as Ubisoft when u try to play R6

twin lantern
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Finally got the grind done in 2042 now to just do the weeklies and I will have everything from the battlepass

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dreamy crescent
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but it isnt fun at all

remote hatch
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dreamy crescent
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all I want is that chinese engineer skin

warm barn
willow lance
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I got both BorisMoment

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willow lance
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Weeklies will give people enough points to complete the pass, it's not efficient to AFK farm on portal

warm barn
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I’m Australian so if I brought the entire pass from level 1 it’d be 130+$ ontop of the 100-150$ I’ll spend on bf6

dreamy crescent
warm barn
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No fucking thank you

warm barn
willow lance
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I will wear 2042 skin to remind people of 2042

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Give them tactical PTSD

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dreamy crescent
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I wonder if the whole of nyc is going to be burning / destroyed on the campaign šŸ¤” perhaps you can see one special tower fallingšŸ¤”

rotund hawk
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RELEASE THE DAMN GAME leo

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chilly spire
warm barn
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What do you mean by that Edmundo

chilly spire
stable remnant
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i dont know a single 2042 characters name other than Irish

warm barn
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I only know Irish and the ones I’ve been using to grind 😭

tidal hound
warm barn
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One thing I’d love to see carry over/keep being released when bf6 is released is the battlefield friends player card backgrounds

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I doubt it will happen but would be great

severe moat
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Oh god the stealth jets in BF6 have thrust vectoring

white moss
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I'm glad first season isn't one map but like three even if 1 or two of them are remastered ones. Are we gonna get a Dirty Harry revolver in the first season?

outer thistle
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i didnt even see if it was buffed in a clip

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white moss
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Hopefully no realistic shotguns others be too OP

tight prism
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more akin to 4 would be good

severe moat
twin jasper
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Bf6 player count dropped to almost 0, what a flop

white moss
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Before nerf/removal the master key was realistic

tight prism
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typically when people ask for realism in something like BF its an emulation of an aspect of realism they're actually asking for

severe moat
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I mean hey jets are going to be hilarious in this game

white moss
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Need to implement blackouts

tight prism
white moss
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You are pulling too much Gs. Blacks out and crashes

severe moat
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We have attack jets that can fire AGMs in the opposite direction of their flight path, stealth jets than can actually thrust vector, and all kinds of stuff

tight prism
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waiting for 15km aim9x and ARHs

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wait this isnt war thunder oops

white moss
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Speaking of war thunder we should get a yearly April fools event

severe moat
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My biggest concern was that in the beta air to air dogfights became largely tricky because of how quick the spread on the jet cannons occurred. This made dogfighting annoying because you couldn’t track your target effectively

tight prism
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rapidly increasing spread on jets? do they have arms and muscles?

knotty grotto
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There is no rendezook stickerPensiveFish

severe moat
long bolt
severe moat
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Ah

tight prism
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its more like
"rapidly increasing spread on an aircraft mounted main gun" is hilarious

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hope its reduced or removed

solar nimbus
fair hill
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do we know if the Campaign will have Multiplayer unlocks?

twin lantern
tidal hound
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With the teammates I get im surprised they managed to press the Play button

fair hill
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Sooo spawn beacon was moved to assault. But if weapons stay open. We will just have assault players equiping bolt guns with beacons in the mountains... What was solved here?

knotty grotto
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Assault is the new recon

fair hill
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Pretty much what I'm thinking.

knotty grotto
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I will call this class… ASSAULT RECON

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Recon will just be recon cuz it will only provide intel

twin jasper
rose fable
fair hill
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Oh right... Double primary. 🤣 ... Oh man!

knotty grotto
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So its also a rush clash now?

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Assault rush recon it isCursedCat

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Should just give assault some healing item for vehicles and humans

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All in 1 classleo

rose fable
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and it has the launchers lmao

knotty grotto
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It comes equipped with pocked vehicles to btw so u can deploy vehicles on the go

tidal hound
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Double primary cuts the ammo pool by a lot. So an Assault with Sniper Carbine is going to get 2 kills before needing to resupply

knotty grotto
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Spawn a plane in the middle of a building!!!OmegaJoy

fair hill
rose fable
tidal hound
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That would ruin their k/d though

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So they wont do that

knotty grotto
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What kd

fair hill
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If they dedicate themselves to the mountain they could drop the second primary for another launcher. Get all the ammo back if it becomes an issue. So many options!

rose fable
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y'all see the support and engineer up on a tower with snipers, trophy systems, anti vehicle, and infinite ammo. lol

fair hill
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Yeah... I somewhat enjoyed open weapons. But the more I think about it ... It just kills balance for a little bit of freedom.

white moss
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Just have both modes

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But if we can only choose one then lock them

tidal hound
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If they choose one they will 100% go with open

still ridge
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Only 1 month left soldiers!

rose fable
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kills the balance and ppl will just meta chase, removes any need to run other weapons. In closed if the meta is an AR for example, a team full of Assaults would suffer

white moss
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Ladders are gonna be so abused

rose fable
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on that note in a closed system, the Engineer should get the carbines and make the SMGs available to the rest. No point on running smg when the M4 is just better.

fair hill
rose fable
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yeah open should be a portal thing

outer thistle
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you can escape open weapon, but you cant escape bland, terrible and uninspired map design

tidal hound
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That's just weapon balance. The m4 could be nerfed to the ground by launch

static kindle
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Drop the game

white moss
tidal hound
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m4 isn't inherently better than SMG's just by name. DICE gotta balance that stuff

white moss
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"They ruined battlefield". In old man voice in battlefield friends

woven canyon
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Is there actually any information if the current BFC from 2042 will transfer to BF6? @gaunt arch

rose fable
willow lance
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Balance is unrelated to class locks

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I would argue BFV is less balanced than 2042 too despite having stricter class locks than BF4

frosty tulip
tidal hound
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Saying anything bad about bf4 will get you attacked by the nostalgia nerds

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bf4 is perfect game after all

frosty tulip
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so perfect i still remember getting banned for sniping the heli pilot because literally all anti air measures are banned

long bolt
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bf4 was riddled with "hackers"

willow lance
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They should keep them unlocked imo, it makes no difference but there are more of the silent majority played with unlocked weapons than with locked weapons. Class lock advocates are most likely minority. Keeping them both in main matchmaking makes no sense when Portal already allows whatever class lock you want to implement. You can probably disable entire weapon classes and give everyone an AR or something too if you want to lol.

tardy geyser
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One month away from release

rose fable
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Played open cause I didn't want to play breakthrough

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not much of a choice

rose fable
frosty tulip
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LMAO ofc not silly

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this aint cod

tidal hound
woven canyon
rose fable
twin jasper
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Guys, I think BFC is the game currency

willow lance
#

Class locking or unlocking divides playerbase for no reason. DICE should pick a lane and give the other option in portal.

woven canyon
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Like cod points, BFC=battlefield coins

white moss
willow lance
#

Glad air vehicles won’t be much of an issue in BF6
Those who know: haHAA
Those who don’t know: CloseCat

twin jasper
velvet kayak
livid kite
#

And I wasn’t even married prior to playing it, nor did I have kids!

stable remnant
#

playing 2042 with 10-15 people feels cool when youre tired of dying every 10 seconds

calm sapphire
#

Depending on if an adult is running it the admin is just another internet janitor to deal with

junior willow
rancid nacelle
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I'm back

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Any admin here

boreal thistle
#

how long did It take yall to finish bf2042 pass?

unique arrow
#

hours or days? i got it yesterday

orchid cairn
#

Wish EA/dice would remaster BF4 on consoles. The resolution is so poor that it's painful to play on the console. I think 2042 is fun but I just can't play it waiting for BF6. I've tried.

unique arrow
orchid cairn
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I know why they won't. They know if BF3/BF4 was remastered on console no one would be on 2042. At all.

unique arrow
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well 2042 will die either way

orchid cairn
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When I mean remaster on console I'm just referring to res and textures. Leave everything else the way it is. That's what I mean. The res is below 1080p n console and just looks horrible.

unique arrow
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Well, it's an older game, and it's perfect as is

void crow
orchid cairn
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In fact BF4 on consoles is unplayable because of the res and aliasing. It's so bad. You can't see in the distance. PC is fine though but the console is where I play the most so.

void crow
proven glacier
unique arrow
unique arrow
proven glacier
orchid cairn
proven glacier
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Was using controller on pc but still worked super well

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Didn’t feel at too much of a disadvantage which was surprising

unique arrow
proven glacier
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Just got to wait for bf6

unique arrow
#

i cant say shit about racing games on console tho

proven glacier
unique arrow
royal beacon
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New textures + RTX

orchid cairn
# royal beacon New textures + RTX

Yes. Exactly. The gameplay is what makes it great but the visuals are so poor on console it's unplayable. Granted the game is old etc so I get it but the consoles we have today can easily match the pc at high settings.

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But I know if EA/dice did that many would skip every other bf altogether.

vapid linden
orchid cairn
#

To me it's easy money. Charge $10 quid for enhanced versions. I'd pay for it np whatsoever.

random elk
#

did i sold all my 10 ct cs 2 skins and my steam cards cause im broke but i want bf6 ? maybe

orchid cairn
random elk
#

71 € steam balance rn

orchid cairn
vapid linden
#

Ah I thought part of the convo was that bf4 gameplay wouldn't be fun in 2025 for some reason lol

twin lantern
#

Wait til month of release and only pay $16.99 for it

random elk
twin lantern
#

And if you happen to not like it you can save yourself money

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Plus you get bonus skins

calm sapphire
#

Just go to Blockbuster and get it for a weekend. Stop overthinking it.

random elk
vapid linden
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Bro gonna roll up with tha redbox bf6 šŸ’€

outer thistle
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i played BF3 last three days on PC

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man did it age...jesus

void crow
vapid linden
#

How?
I genuinely don't notice the difference in graphics of bf3/4 and 6

Like yeah if you... aren't playing thr game and instead are looking for rocks and bugs on the ground the differences are obvious

Otherwise it's basically the same lol

vapid linden
#

The leap in graphics from 2013 to 2025 for some games is kinda pathetic and weak tbh
We definitely are in the Era of diminishing returns

outer thistle
#

i meant in details between BF3 and BF5

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i dont consider bf6 a battlefield game

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i am number 1 bf 6 hater

tidal hound
random elk
#

didnt they said they will remove raytracing?

vapid linden
hollow sage
outer thistle
#

i will do the needful

vapid linden
#

I can't say yet whether bf6 will be a "battlefield experience" or not tbh
The beta was fun, but I didn't get to play enough and on a wide enough array of maps to tell tbh

orchid cairn
tame geyser
#

Oi peasants

outer thistle
tame geyser
#

Will BF6 have big maps like bf4

outer thistle
vapid linden
#

All complaints aside
Bf6 has fantastic performance atleast which can't be said for many modern titles lol

outer thistle
tame geyser
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We need big aps

#

maps

orchid cairn
orchid cairn
outer thistle
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it goes BFV -> Arc Raiders for old DICE

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BF2042 and BF6 are abominations

random elk
#

weird to see people agreeing each other in a game

orchid cairn
#

Lol. Agreement does happen.

vapid linden
# tame geyser Will BF6 have big maps like bf4

It'd less "big maps" that's my concern and pacing and speed of the games
Quicker respawns, quicker health regen, wackier movement lends itself to lots of stupid Rambo larp gameplay rather than "battlefield" gameplay

random elk
#

so ill just hop in with pineapple on pizza

outer thistle
tame geyser
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We just need BF4 stuff in BF6

#

now!

unique arrow
outer thistle
#

wish I could post images here

orchid cairn
random elk
#

levelation is what we need

outer thistle
#

to show certain clowns just how small truly Sobek is

unique arrow
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oh yes BF6 will have rly good future, hope devs dont fck it up

vapid linden
#

Bf3 and bf4 are still my beloved titles to this day
I'd gladly keep playing bf4 if I didn't have that looming kinda "angst" about the game population eventually puttering out and it actually dying for good and not having "liveliness" about it

tame geyser
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Big maps and BF4 vibes and I will buy this thign in premium

#

cash will flow

outer thistle
orchid cairn
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I want to see naval combat come back. That naval warfare dlc that came out. Memories.

unique arrow
#

it all can come

outer thistle
calm sapphire
#

If they can fix the stupid land vehicles first, then yeah, sea would be cool

tame geyser
vapid linden
calm sapphire
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Although driving the jeeps already did feel like trying to sail

orchid cairn
#

Empire doesn't exist. Lol. That's the one map that I don't count.

outer thistle
#

people here are not watching the gameplay from leaks

#

its very clear

calm sapphire
#

I've watched enough and played the open betas. If they want to impress me they can do it at launch.

unique arrow
#

iv seen so much leaks i just cant talk about that here so i dont get ban again

calm sapphire
#

They want me to convince myself to buy the game. It's not my job to do that; it's theirs.

unique arrow
#

i dont want another ban

outer thistle
#

breakthrough on Sobek, whole Bradley fits between Sector and NATO HQ

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comical

orchid cairn
#

If you want to see great big open maps for bf6 they're out there. Will not comment where. Do a Google search and the truth shall set you free.

white moss
outer thistle
calm sapphire
outer thistle
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Badlands is same size as liberation peak

white moss
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Mirak Valley is the big one

lusty wyvern
#

A BF6 Campaign mission will be shown at TGS

outer thistle
#

Mirak Valley is big in theory, in practice its small

random elk
#

was it a product where you get it? if yes look at the details maybe you get it per email on release? if nothing stands there write a email to intel or the place you buyed it

outer thistle
#

two flags right next to HQ, village and trenches are basically unplayable

lusty wyvern
outer thistle
#

only middle portion and C are playable

lusty wyvern
white moss
#

Anyone doing a wait and see or preordering?

hollow sage
#

@outer thistle why dont you move over to Call of Duty discord?

tame geyser
#

I really need to see BF4 vibes, because that's what I loved about the game. The open beta was too small maps and respawn killing too fast

orchid cairn
#

Ray tracing is too taxing. You can still achieve phenomenal lighting and reflections without it. It's not necessary all the time. It's really not. Would I like to see it yes but it's too demanding for what bf is trying to do.

outer thistle
#

if you defend this game, you are the one who should move to CoD discord

vapid linden
#

All I know is
I bought bf2042 for $3 thinking it can't be that bad
And oh boy. It really really was that bad, including the portal "bf3" modes

AWFUL

white moss
#

Though if they want to add ray tracing throw it on campaign only

vapid linden
#

I really will be happy if bf6 just isn't... THAT

white moss
#

Well beta told me it wasn't that

tame geyser
#

I am willing to buy BF6, but it needs to feel like BF4. BF4 was amazing

orchid cairn
random elk
#

did you buy it in a store?

tame geyser
#

BETA didnt convince me

random elk
#

did they asked you for your email?

unique arrow
#

i buyed too the phantom edition after first beta im still hyped

random elk
#

maybe the cashier grabbed the code lol

#

happened to me with indiana jones

hollow sage
warm barn
orchid cairn
# tame geyser BETA didnt convince me

I agree the open beta didn't convince me either in the beginning because the small cramped spaces really irked me but I'll be spending a lot of time in the map editor for portal. So I'm good. Plus what I mentioned earlier about Google. The big maps we haven't played yet and from what I've seen they look great.

outer thistle
#

you cant just do it from sratch

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scratcg

warm barn
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Don’t get me wrong there’s a lot I’d like changed/fixed but it’s great

hollow sage
tame geyser
#

Still expensive tho, 69 euros...

orchid cairn
# outer thistle you cant just do it from sratch

I know but you can place objects around. Move things. Like that map with the mountain. On breakthrough it was so difficult because the first point was like seeing cigarette lighters at a rock concert. Snipers everywhere. I will fix that. Add more objects to block off that noise.

warm barn
outer thistle
warm barn
tidal finch
#

Greetings gamers... in preparation for BF 6 I wanted to enhance my experience a little and need this channel's sage advice. First my system is an I7-13700, 32 gig ram My GPU is currently an RTX 3060 (8GB) and I've decided to jump ship back to AMD because I'm not a competitive gamer and want good stuff but doesn't have to be top tier so I'm probably going to get the Radeon RX 9060 XT (16 GB). I was considering the RTX 5060 TI 16GB but I save 80.00 going AMD plus they are pretty close ...good enough for me .

My question: I'm wanting to finally move from 1080p to 2K only (not going 4k due to GPU strain) so I will be looking to get a monitor now for this since my RTX 3060 can handle it until I get the new card.

So, here is where you peeps come in... I'm wanting a 32" 2K IPS- HDR 400+ certified monitor and I'm thinking curved, high refresh rate, would like adaptive sync for both free and g-sync yada yada and wanted to see if you guys are using a 27" flat panel at 2K or using a 32" curved and would the pixel difference between the two be that noticeable? What are some recommendations? I'm looking to cap my spending around $250.00 and it doesn't have to be a mainstream brand as long is it is highly rated. Thoughts?

unique arrow
#

99 euros for me

orchid cairn
#

I already have ideas on how I want to change some of the layouts of the maps. Not all were a problem but some of the placements were just piss poor.

warm barn
#

That’s the only map I really had big issues with

orchid cairn
outer thistle
tame geyser
tidal finch
outer thistle
#

then you are set

orchid cairn
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Some maps in the open beta I liked. Had no issue with checkpoint placement but some were just terrible. I plan on fixing that. For sure.

vapid linden
#

I've got a cursed build
I'm running an i7-9800X and a 3070 ti lol

outer thistle
tidal finch
# outer thistle then you are set

what type of monitor are you using. I'm thinking of getting a 32" 2K IPS HDR 400 + adaptive sync... or better to get 27" IPS Flat?

hollow sage
tidal finch
outer thistle
vapid linden
orchid cairn
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Empire needs work. Mountain map with the sniper rock concert needs adjusting. The Cairo map I enjoyed but the checkpoint placement needs to be spread more. That other map. Can't think of it. Same. Checkpoints need spacing.

outer thistle
tidal finch
crimson gate
orchid cairn
#

Who knows. The launch versions may be different and I won't have to change anything. We shall see.

outer thistle
hollow sage
vapid linden
outer thistle
orchid cairn
outer thistle
#

they even allowed Black Mesa to be made

#

GOATED game

outer thistle
tidal finch
#

so guys opinions on which monitor to get............see above

outer thistle
#

legit dont matter which one as long as it isnt from temu

orchid cairn
#

Cairo didn't need all of those checkpoints. It really didn't. Same with the others you mentioned.

tidal finch
#

are 32" IPS Curved not good for 2K due to pixel density or ????

orchid cairn
#

Your in my mind space with the map editor now ruthlezZ. Now your understanding.

quasi breach
stable remnant
#

just project the game directly onto your eyeballs. it curves itself

outer thistle
# orchid cairn Exactly.

new dice has no balls, look at the whole map of liberation peak, forest and mountains included, they could move the bases all the way down the road, enable mountain above C to be playable and have objective at top, add cable you can latch onto and drop into either base map or forest, add another objective deep into the valley between the mountains looking at liberation peak, add one objective on top of each mountain. Boom, you have best Battlefield map ever made

crimson gate
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For me 32" is just too big for me like I'd need a deeper desk

quasi breach
crimson gate
#

Also you're asking for a lot of features with a 250 budget

outer thistle
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its mountain not map

orchid cairn
outer thistle
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it would be one of the best

tidal finch
#

not getting feedback...is there a more appropriate place to post my question?

outer thistle
#

not even crazy big

#

but battlefield sandbox big

#

instead we get liberation yard

quasi breach
orchid cairn
granite horizon
#

Is there anymore beta testing going to be available or is that it now until release?

outer thistle
outer thistle
#

legit only thing i would play

granite horizon
quasi breach
quasi breach
orchid cairn
#

The portal mode in 2042 is a beta.

outer thistle
#

Dice should allow people to matchmake into Portal, just have filter to be selected called VERIFIED / CUSTOM and allow people to matchmake into custom maps like we discuss here

#

the fact this is not gonna happen is travesty

tidal finch
#

what kind of monitors are you guys using for Battlefield 6?

outer thistle
#

works very nice

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not sure how big though

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less than 27 inches 100%

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i had 27 inch monitor before and if i build a new pc i will get one again with 144hz

orchid cairn
outer thistle
#

in every way imaginable

orchid cairn
#

Hell what you and I are thinking may not even be available to do. I hope our ideas do come to a reality though.

crimson gate
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27 inch is the sweet spot for me

tidal finch
tall zinc
#

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outer thistle
tidal finch
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I have an AOC 27" curved IPS 280 mhz 1ms gysunc monitor

orchid cairn
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If the portal map editor gives us the opportunity to actually alter the maps to our liking lll be happy.

tidal finch
#

BUT only 1080p

civic herald
#

Is curved better or straight

stable remnant
crimson gate
#

Mine is flat yeah I just like the size of 27"

tall zinc
#

makes little difference

tidal finch
white moss
#

I mean if you didn't like the beta you will probably not like the full game.

tall zinc
crimson gate
#

1440p will be ok on 32"

outer thistle
white moss
civic herald
#

How many Inches is best

outer thistle
white moss
#

I think unless it's curved 27 is the way to go

tall zinc
#

27/32 is the defacto standard

spiral forge
#

is it worth to preorder?

tall zinc
#

but do not get an LCD monitor if you can they are terrible compared to oled

white moss
#

I respect his decision. I'm not gonna say go buy it or else

outer thistle
quasi breach
tidal finch
spiral forge
quasi breach
tidal finch
white moss
#

I just think curved you want to go wide

quasi breach
outer thistle
white moss
stable remnant
#

i dont. for some skins and a token. I dont want the stuff, but i will get the game

spiral forge
outer thistle
#

bf3 was dead in 2016

tidal finch
outer thistle
#

like legit dead

quasi breach
quasi breach
crimson gate
#

What resolution is the 32 inch is it 1440p?

white moss
outer thistle
spiral forge
tidal finch
#

it would be 2K yes 1440 p

white moss
#

Any other shooters you play Ruthless?

stable remnant
quasi breach
# spiral forge no

well then its hard to know if you will like it or not. if you can afford it then sure. at the end of the day, it depends on what your specific situation is

stable remnant
#

It was black VS desert camo. pretty cool. afraid they will blend too much

spiral forge
#

any other opinion

white moss
#

Oh man I want adaptive camo to come back

outer thistle
#

i want EA to collaborate with Embark and TTKgames to make BF2142 remaster

#

i would have no life for 10 years straight

white moss
#

Or better yet make 2143

outer thistle
#

SHUHIA TAIBA FROSTIBTE ENGINE TITAN MODE

white moss
#

Next game has to be bad company 3 though

#

Then we can do whatever after that one

outer thistle
#

idc about next bf game without embark/ttkgames involved

#

thats the old dice

#

look at arc raiders, it screams battlefield

white moss
#

I guess you like the finals?

outer thistle
white moss
#

Arc raiders sounds like hazard zone

ocean sun
#

Arc Raiders is gonna be the BF6 Killer. šŸ™‚

white moss
#

Plays different save for the BR mode in bf6

#

If it kills anything it kills the BR mode

#

Anyone play musket shooters? I enjoy holdfast myself

outer thistle
#

idk i sacrificed shooters and myself to fromsoftware games

#

zero regrets

ocean sun
#

Yeah but from the beta, from what I saw, there's no real heart of BF in BF6 standard play...the BR was the only thing that might have saved them. Gameplay will get stale, small maps, no commander...fast paced instead of a balance between say Hell Let Loose and COD...it's leaning to heavily toward zoomer shooter.

stable remnant
#

yeeeeee

outer thistle
#

bloodborne is just something else

white moss
#

Nothing like doing one shot and then going stabby stabby

stable remnant
#

Fromsoft revitalised my interest in videogames

outer thistle
#

i am literally building PC just to run max settings future fromsoft titles

#

i am in love with miyazakis vision of video games

white moss
#

I haven't decided if I want to upgrade or get the PS6 next gen

lucid mist
#

ps6 will be 800 dollars and have no games calling it right now

sand dagger
ocean sun
#

I dunno I expect that launch of BF6 is gonna be huge, then 2 months down the road 80% of those players will be gone.

sand dagger
ocean sun
#

But financially, I think they're going to turn a profit...there's still hope for BF games, but they need to go back to BF2 and BF3...examine why they were regarded as the best...and emulate those games...instead of trying to cater to modern audiences with the zoomer mentality.

white moss
#

It will have physical at least.

ocean sun
#

And no, I dont expect 500k concurrent for BF6 at launch...I expect 200-300k...cuz you have to remember the Beta was free, the asking price for this game is not worth what was shown...imo...and many people ain't gonna shell out 80 for something that isn't even really BF.

sand dagger
white moss
#

Played beta for bf6. Enjoyed it. Played beta for 2042. What is this crap?

ocean sun
#

It LOOKs like BF, it SOUNDs like BF...it's basically a coat of paint over 2042, with Operators removed.

white moss
sand dagger
white moss
#

They can keep operators though in BR if they want but keep it out of the main game

sand dagger
ocean sun
#

It's slower...yes, but there's still tons of bugs...tons of small maps...2042 had too much space, this has too little...shrug...it's going to appeal to a certain crowd, I 100% agree...it's not going to fail as hard as 2042...but it's not going to retain long term...beyond the 2-3 months timeframe.

white moss
outer thistle
white moss
#

Seriously I can't think of anyways for ladders not to be abused

outer thistle
#

they just focused on stable launch and marketing

velvet kayak
outer thistle
#

they will get their money and move on after one year tops

#

i am going to laugh hard when it happens

sand dagger
# ocean sun It's slower...yes, but there's still tons of bugs...tons of small maps...2042 h...

"Still tons of bugs" the beta was the least buggy BF Beta I have ever played and I have played a few. Also there are large maps coming, they have made it very clear. Op firestorm is going to be in game and Mirak is apparently the largest. Then on top of that the leaks for the 3 upcoming maps after launch look like they will be larger maps too. I am not sure what gives you this sentiment

ocean sun
#

What is there to cope? There were no airfields...the planes take off mid flight...like, there's no large maps...like actual large maps, nothing shown was memorable...just typical CQC Urban Zones...it was a poor showing imo.

lucid mist
white moss
#

Think they got new director for the new game

outer thistle
#

i will never forgive EA for not making eastern front in BFV with yugoslavia and soviet union

stable remnant
#

youre not gonna laugh you'll just be mad about something else

outer thistle
white moss
#

I left after BF1. Which was a good area to leave at

ocean sun
#

We'll see...but a promise of "A big Map is there guys" just give us the 80 dollars...is not a risk Im taking, I'll wait and see.

sand dagger
lucid mist
#

guys please stop, engaging wtih this guy it's obvious bait holy shit

orchid cairn
sand dagger
velvet kayak
outer thistle
#

who in the gods name is calling the remaining maps big

ocean sun
#

How am I baiting, I think the game was poor...thats not a bait, it's my honest opinion...I think it's rushed, I think that the game isn't going to retain beyond 2 months...if it's all true or false who cares...we're just feeding poppa EA either way.

hallow geode
#

Tomorrow marks the day it will officially be exactly 1 MONTH to go 🄳

white moss
outer thistle
#

these maps are TINY

ocean sun
#

Like, you trust the same people that are giving you Madden every year? Like cmon,.

orchid cairn
outer thistle
#

Zavod 311 mogs them completely in size

white moss
#

The tiny maps are good and all. But we do need variety

velvet kayak
hallow geode
sand dagger
#

Seems like there will be a good mix of 3 small, 3 medium, and 3 large maps at launch which to me is perfect.

ocean sun
# velvet kayak Smaller maps are better for running n gunning

And thats what I said, I said it will cater to a certain audience...that audience is the COD audience...they are attempting to just do direct competition with COD instead of embracing what made BF unique and loved to begin with...and that's going to be their downfall.

lucid mist
white moss
#

I liked the beta. That was all that mattered

velvet kayak
rocky granite
#

Bf6 destruction is the best in the series

hallow geode
sand dagger
lucid mist
rocky granite
#

Guns confirmed to get mud caked effects on them 🄰🄰🄰

orchid cairn
# velvet kayak Smaller maps are better for running n gunning

Yes but that shouldn't be the entirety of the game which is exactly what that open beta impression gave. However, like I mentioned use google. There are plentyyyy of vids showing big maps. I think it was a huge mistake to not at least show one big map in that open beta. It's biting them in the foot. Stupidity.

frank dust
#

clears throat

velvet kayak
ocean sun
#

To each their own, I wanted to like BF6...and on the surface, I did spend 30 hours in the Beta....it's not terrible by any stretch...but honestly for what they want for the asking price...I'll wait for it to move to Gamepass...and in the meantime if I want a BF-like I'll mess with Delta Force...and I'll just enjoy Arc Raiders when it drops...that's just my t ake.

frank dust
#

2,629,945 seconds remaining until Battlefield 6

hallow geode
lucid mist
civic herald
#

Bruh big maps are so bad just look at 2042

velvet kayak
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fun fact: Roman Campos-Oriola was the lead designer of Ghost Recon Future Soldier and Director of the Dead Space Remake while Phillipe Ducharme had various roles in Army of Two (1 & 2) and Assassin's Creed 3. Phillip is now the executive special producer of the Campaign and Roman is the senior creative director of the Campaign

stable remnant
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they should add "HD micro destruction" like that bf3 Close Quarters dlc

orchid cairn
outer thistle
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game from 100 years ago

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churchill was alive when bf2 was made

lucid mist
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you guys are all wrong bf3 is a cod clone I miss the good old days when battlefield was good and now all thee cod kids just play bf3.

im sticking with the REAL BATTLEFIELD game bf2 modern combat

civic herald
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Big maps is walking simulator and die to vehicle and snipers

outer thistle
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it was huge departure at the time from old bf design

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and bad one as well

hallow geode
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Nah modern combat mobile game is the true battlefield experience

ocean sun
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BF2 was IMO the best BF...it was well rounded, the vehicles were meaningful...maps were good...not great, but if they had just moved that game design into a better graphical presentation and audio...and somehow added the destruction, and a center piece on each map for mass destruction...but kept everything form BF2 about the same...you'd have a winner.

lucid mist
stable remnant
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bf 1943 >

outer thistle
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bf3 WAS a cod clone at the time

outer thistle
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they tried to get that COD slice

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look at the map lineup

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almost mirrors bf6

lucid mist
ocean sun
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BF2142, was the most awesome...with potential...they need to do 2142 again with the Titan Mode, I'd be there.

outer thistle
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but not battleyard 2142, actual battlefield please

civic herald
outer thistle
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not like mirak garden or new sobek village

ocean sun
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Or we could go wild...and make BF - Medeival Warfare...and only have Archers and Melee...let's do it...let's do it, but make it massive...with destruction from Balistas and Trebuchets...let's do it...better than Chiv, Mordhau...better than Kingmakers...let's do it!

long bolt
ocean sun
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Naw 2142

deep glade
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Ah, so we’re also getting the UH 60 in bf6

outer thistle
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not 2042

ocean sun
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2142 had a flying mothership called Titan Mode...you launched ICBMs at it to take down shields, then blew up the core...it was amazing

olive basalt
outer thistle
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bf2 as well

ocean sun
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Yea they just need to tighten the actual gunplay up, but Titan Mode...that was so good.

outer thistle
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thats why i said, port Battlefield V mechanics into BF2142 and its something I willl play for 5k hours

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at least

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in fact, BFV got bunch of stuff from older games

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like limited ammo on vehicles

civic herald
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Vehicle need to die in 1 rpg hit like in real life

outer thistle
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one can dream though and to hope and cope for better future titles

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for now we get battleyard 6

deft zephyr
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They should make a campaign DLC for BF6 that takes place in 2042

stable remnant
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and they need to go back in time to stop the game from being made?

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Final mission is in Dice studio

deft zephyr
deft zephyr
deft zephyr
white moss
deft zephyr
white moss
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Instead of shooting bullets it's throwing paper plans at all the civilians

deft zephyr
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lol

stable remnant
smoky tulip
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Anybody else concerned about the Sledge Hammer causing too much damage to buildings?

stable remnant
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yes. Even bullets were shown to take down entire buildings just by shooting them, its silly. Needs much much more Micro-Destruction

remote hatch
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Is it gonna be its oen gadget or just a passive / part of the base kit?

stable remnant
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its Melee, instead of your knife

remote hatch
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Ok then it depends how fast / often you can use it