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the world hadn't reached the point of this wonderful invention called: the internet
where commerce could be instantaneous
and supply chains and information can travel and be developed rapidly
frankly it could have developed much earlier without the internet (given it wouldn't have been as strong as it is now) but the U.S was too preoccupied with the cold war
when a war gives you mass access to land that's barely been used
it's worth it
If I had a nickel for every time an American fruit company overthrew an independent governing body I would have 2 nickels.
that's not the modern world fortunately
In cases where there are military conflict it's purely out of political spite rather than any sane financial or moral reasoning.
which includes things I can't discuss for fears of being auto modded

βWe gotta invade this country cause itβs healthcare is free!β
this would sound more sane unfortunately
still pretty crazy
but it would be more sane
Yeah sure, but I wasnt talking about war out of gaining more land and power or for political reasons, Im talking more out of pure necessity.
That's not something that will exist unless climate conditions become so severe that they actively ruin mass amounts of livable space and resources
to the point a resource war is necessary.
I'm gonna be dead by then
multiple generations after that too
the point where war costs more than what you could have gotten by just investing that capital into developing your economy to trade for those resources you invaded for
Does any1 know how early you can play BF6 if your pre order the game?
is the point where it is in fact stupid (ie the modern world)
No
Wait how did we get here
No worries you'll maybe see it but not related to climat π
0 minutes before launch
I can only really see a war occur due to truly insane political reasoning frankly.
It's crazy how crap COD has turned. Was watching a video, remember playing as the children in MW2019 and escaping the big Russian? Man that was a scene. Now you are Beavis and butthead and crap. Man how COD has fallen...
I said it would be more likely to invade the next country over in a dire situation for resources than going across the world to do so
Im not even sure what were talking about anymore
so basically if you pre order you can only play on the official release?
excluding civil wars btw (like Ethiopia). These happen all the time
Yes
Like the rest of us
Okay thanks man!
First war will be because of politics stupidty, every country is now actively prepare themseves.
A new war will probably around 55' when gaz will be lacking
there's really only 1 military conflict in the world rn on a country to country basis and it's purely political
"Oi Gaz, iz u lackin awf again?"
Im going to imply a joke here
π how is this a joke
the only joke is that the auto mod would merc me for mentioning it

Because there is another major "conflict" going on. Whether or not you see one of the sides as legitimate country is up to you.
fyi I used particular words for a reason
the other thing you're thinking of is not a war it's an occupation
one side has no formal military at all
Yes but those wars are not impactful if you don't live in the country. I mean global war
yeah there's no real reason for a global war. It would be stupid on multiple accounts and decimate the overall economy
trade is simply more profitable by a wide wide margin
Guys, I'm happy to report that I've upgraded my pre-purchase to the phantom edition 
I don't think any political reasoning could incur a global scale conflict strong enough to deter people's desires for anything to be remotely affordable or functional for our current population size
people do in fact enjoy living
If you told any american: we're going to war but you guys gotta pay double on gas prices if we're gonna do it
no sane human would consider it β οΈ
hyperbole but you get my gist
Well dang, where were u when I needed my essays done?
hell even when. there's a moral reasoning we're not doing it
I used some of my PTO to PTFO on day 1, still not preordering
like we have a full moral reason to help a particular country mind you
but we just won't flipping do it because money
Theyre still not getting a single cent unless I see proof the game is in working condition day 1
Idk what those words mean lmao I just figured since I'm getting the game, why not hit the field looking fresh
paid time off
Well we tried the beta, it seemed solid
and the second one is play the fricking objective.
Except he didn't say fricking
Fair enough, Im still in the same no preorder boat. I loved the beta, but I am still not preordering until I see it is playable.
I just see no real incentive to pre order ngl
ah yes this skin idc about huzzah
Ur missing out on some sweet pre order content 
Ps: I'm definitely not paid by ea to say this 
I wouldnt mind the skins and such, but theres tons of people who got burned on 2042. Hell, even BF4 one the first few weeks
tbh I don't think I could get burned out on bf4 ngl
I still play that game to this day
I'll let u guys know if it's a hit or not. 33 days to go 
literally played it 2 weeks ago with some homies
Anyone else having a ton of fun on Helldivers while waiting for BF6?
silksong for me
No, burned. They got fucked with the shitty netcode when BF4 first came out.
ohhhh
I wish I could get into games like that. I would like to play through the old Contra games.
Idk if I need to explain 2042
I'm a big single player and indie enjoyer tbh so it's just me
I used to be big on competitive multiplayer fighters and fps games but due to dental school I've quit those
Yeah I played Stalker Anomaly and modpacks for it, for YEARS.
Im more of a Deep Rock Galactic guy
nowadays I'm just looking for 2 things
casual multiplayer games
fun singleplayer games (mostly this tbh)
I wish I could go back to experiencing my first Emission in Stalker again lol. I was blown away.
I'm not seeking to grind another marvel rivals to eternity, another OW to grand master, or another tekken to god of destruction
Yeah BF6 is the only real multiplayer games I like. Well, Squad and Arma Reforger sometimes. But I don't even really play "competitively" on them. I usually just be a support bro.
that shizz I've left behind it's not healthy
I kinda wish I could go back and gaslight my younger self into abandoning that shizz
I find squad and arma are a bit too preoccupied on realism over game design
I do in fact wanna just enjoy some games with my guys and gals without much craziness to it
I respect what they do but it's not for me
I think it just takes getting used to. When I first got into it I'm like, man we either are running or getting blown up lol. Since then I've spent matches with nothing but a shovel in hand building FOBs and stuff.
I just didn't find it as fun if I had to word it
Plus if I'm ever doing some drinking, and know I won't be aiming for shit. I'll sit in a bush where I know people will be coming by smoking cigs and drinking until an unlucky transport comes by or something lol
when i have very limitd free time I gotta make it count
hell i'm being dead serious if you find me in discord at all I'm most likely doing work on another monitor
as in literally rn
Stalker is th ebest drinking game. Just hang out at a campfire loading mags listening to the Russian dudes telling stories and laughing lol
I'm waiting on stalker 2 to fully release
the latest updates improved the game a lot mind you but I wanna wait for that post launch dlc and stuff
Yeah I could never go back to console gaming. Not only do I hate controllers, I like having a 2nd monitor and watching videos or doing something on the other lol
I don't blame the devs for being delayed and all considering yk... where they are based in
Yeah, me too... Most disappointing game of 2024
I don't blame em
they needed the cash to uh... leave
and development was screwed for obvious reasons
reasons I won't mention so I don't get auto modded
I lost some respect for some of them honestly. If US was ever being invaded and I'm a fighting age male.... no way I'm bailing on my fellow citizens to go make a videogame.
I honestly think Unreal Engine 5 is the biggest reason Stalker 2 is in the shape it is.
I heard they're updating to latest UE5 that's supposedly a lot more optimized tho. That should help
for context the film takes place in a period where japan has imperial undertones and is soon to enter ww2
a particular plane engineer who simply loves planes and the sheer beauty of building them has to deal with...
some unfortunate realities of that time period to say the least
but it asks a compelling question: Which would you choose: a world with pyramids or a world without?
At what point do we compromise our visions, our dreams, our art, ourselves even for the state of the world
i wonder if we will have a battlefield movie
I mean... a COD movie is happening I just don't have high hopes for it lol
well it could work if done properly but yeah lol
it could be realy good, dispite how bad the game is π
It's funny because Steven Spielberg was willing to take on the project but Activision being Activision didn't want to give it to him for fears of "giving too much creative control" to spielberg
this dude made medal of honor allied assault a thing man β οΈ
they gave it to flipping paramount
yup the game is bad mostly due to activision's choice. theyre the ones who decides whats in the game or whats not tbh, not the devs
the same paramount that handled the halo tv show btw
same exact branch β οΈ
What goes on in the mind of some executives I will truly never understand

yeah rip but they have creative control not paramount with cods so its probably better
I don't think I want Activision executives in the room for handling a movie
over a guy like spielberg
but that's just me ig
it shouldve been microsoft who have the say not activision, activision is bad for cod as always
thoughts on bloom
thing is if spielberg got a hold of the rains and made a good movie, the next game would have fan expectations...
im sure he will make a ww2 movie which probably wont be in activision's minds i guess
i can see activision wanting a modern warfare movie
a good balancing element that's included in many shooters.
Battlefield implements a bit more of it to promote tap firing and to make longer range enagements not stupid
it depends on the style of shooter on how much or how little bloom you want
a bad example of bloom is valorant
a game that wants to be that competitive shouldn't have that much bloom (but I hate that game for a variety of other reasons that are more pressing personally)
csgo technically also has bloom but its guns have more fixed patterns that for its initial shots it's controllable
thoughts on bloom for battlefield
i think bloom is ok, makes the games realistic
On my ps5 pre order it says 33 days 4 hour 34 min left. So the release time is 5 pm. Belgium. Thought it was midnight lol
I barely noticed it during beta. Don't know if that's good or bad, I just came across that blinding neon glare in some maps. I know it's a bug but when I say it was blinding, I mean it
U should be heading home from work by then, perfect timing, unless ur off the whole day and have to wait
i hate the high contrast sometimes of BF games and also present in liberation peak, and the mexico yellow/orange piss ass filter in cairo
anyway all good
I work until 1 pm that day. Have 3 days off the next week
That's good, gives u time to load up on snacks and get comfy
i already have Earned Leave for that day so its kinda easy to play the whole weekend
I think it's the combination of everything being beige, literally everything from tanks to infantry to roads and buildings, to the smoke/dust caused by every little thing that happens around the map
im ok with the beige but the lighting or whatever turns me off tbh, but i guess the time of the day is like mid afternoon thats why its like that
Me neither, I think bloom in BF6 open beta was alright, although there was that bug where your bloom could be maxed out as if you're sliding infinitely
I noticed that bf6 devs really really love dust. Dust is there and it's standing strong, throw one nade down the road and watch it fill with dust
makes sense in war i guess, but we need mud effects as well
There's a new map for that
cant wait for some maps that are rainy or at night and ofc winter maps
I've been playing BF1 these days waiting for 6, and the bloom in that game is horrible
I don't understand why when a character is in a dark room it's harder to see outside. Why is it like our eyes are adjusting at hyper speed
Yesssss I forgot about this lmaoo
awesome, hopefully the guns and our soldiers can get muddy and dirty like in bfv
yup bloom is weird sometimes tbh

especially for soldiers which should have easy adaptations to different light conditions
I think they'll fix that
I can tell u that vehicles do that if they spent enough time 'off roading' I have a clip of a tank covered in mud and gunk BC he was on dirt the whole game
Because of that, you can't shoot mf out of a doorway, that's some bs
they should for some bit of realism
Yeah I'm not a sweaty loser who tries to be "pro" to the point I want everything to be perfect for being competitive. I love the smoke, the debris flying, the bloom. I just PTFO, do my job as an engineer/medic/support/recon, and play for those epic cinematic "Only in Battlefield" moments with my friends.
I get why they'd do that, to prevent camping or abusing dark spots, but it really needs to be toned down
iirc we will get night vision goggles, so maybe we can use that to counter it
That's not even necessarily just an effect of bloom though. Ya bloom contributes to the issue, but it's more the exposure balancing that is fluctuating. I don't think that abusing dark spots should even be a sentence also, that's just playing the game why wouldnt you hide in a shadow
It's part why I HATE that gaming companies will listen to sweaty streamers and stuff. Battlefield is 64v64 it's never going to be an "esport". 90% of the people who play will be just trying to have fun after a long day at work/school. So why take streamer's advice?
Yeah Gen 4 NV could work and period apt.
I think they'll end up having NV/thermal scopes. I don't think we'll see NVGs in the game.
maybe in night maps but who knows
You can't use most optics with NVGs, so would they limit you scopes on rifles to red dots? Because if you allow ACOG to be used with NVG then there would be no point in having thermal scopes
throwing grenade animations remain unchanged
Honestly if they wanted to make money on mtx and not ruin the identity of BF they could have just sold different irl thermals and other equipment
MTX?
We already got deathmatch mode for that and Battle Royale is coming to BF6 post launch anyway so these streamers can shut up now 
microtransactions
there is no ''x''
Yeah, I seriously hope EA just LEAVES IT ALONE. They can have their DM and BR modes. But leave Conquest and Rush gamemodes alone.
yeah curious as to how theyll make their BR
I don't know if night maps that 'require' nvgs would be a good idea, having to look at that bright green for the whole game will fry ur brain. I know night maps were a thing in bf3, but it didn't require nvgs, and those maps were cool BC u got to see tracers, flares, and explosions better
I honestly hope it's decent. I really liked PUBG back in the day. I love the slower pace, being tactical, communication being vital.
wdym, it definitely worked well in mw2019 and people love that
i think it could work especially in battlefield because ofc irl wars continue all day and all night
If it's good, I'll play it. I'm not a real hater of certain gamemodes. I wish there was a good Tarkov alternative that felt good. Arena Breakout was decent, just felt really stiff and weird.
I know but cod games lasted. About 10 to 15 minutes max. Battlefield games last for 35 to 40 minutes depending on game mode
Bro on Squad/Arma I've played matches lasting 1.5 to 2 hours before. That's one reason I love Battlefield. A can do a 30 min session and have fun.
maybe the map can be well lit enough to not restrict players to use NV all the time, but still an option
like for example night maps in bf1
Welp, time to go kill some bugs for Democracy.
Unless they figure out a way to make nvgs not obnoxious
modern nvgs are not bright green filter or whatever anymore btw, theyre usually greyish blue espeically gen 4
the ones they use in mw2019 is like that
I've been there too I know what u mean, but arma and squad they aren't as fast paced and 'competitive' as bf
these dont also flare up when theres bright light sources, so they definitely ideal for night warfare
Didn't BF4 have taclight attachment? I want those back.
the white phosphor nvgs are the ones commonly used now, not the green ones
Have you seen this new generation that literally outlines everything?
Yeah maybe for spec ops and tier 1s I guess
yup that would be awesome as well to use, but i think too broken maybe balance-wise
I'd be down for that, a map at dawn/sunset time or even a night time map that doesn't 'require' nvgs
i think map variants would be awesome
Or dynamic day light
that mid or late afternoon cairo map is painful on the eyes tbh
doritos would be all you see lol
I wish I could share screenshots of what I mean π
Yeah boosters the only ones that can probably
Bc I keep thinking of bf3 maps that did that, no bloom, no artificial hues. Just the right amount
Dynamic day and night cycle and weather would be nice for maps ngl
yup!!! but maybe just not possible or too complicated to make
I remember playing need for speed most wanted that had that piss filter. It made the game look awful. So I'm with u on that
Well we kinda have that in BF2042
15 engineers and nobody capturing any flags... cool cool cool
hmm i guess those are scripted stuff but yeah
cant wait for bp challenges every week in bf6 so we can see swarms of people farming the same challenge
15 engineers yet nobody destorying tanks nor capping flags
Xp farmers are salivating for portal bf6
Me and a bunch of dudes talked about this way back. Hopefully something new gets done about it
I was on the side originally of "maybe this will encourage people to sort of play the objective", but this is ridiculous and a glimpse of what is coming
It's just how people play games now, even if they're not grinding xp they want a challenge to complete, and if everyone is given the same low effort chore then that's what everyone will do
It depends on the challenge tbh, during beta, u had to repair vehicles, or spot targets with the tug. Challenges like this I agree with BC they encourage teamwork and class variations to be used
That was my origingal thinking right there
Then I see the 15 engineers trying to get 2k damage for this week and it's ruining lobbies
yeah i can see them reviving a lot in one week while in another week theyll be ignoring the objective and focusing on kills if its the current challenge
so itll likely be either be bad or good depending on the week 
True
We already saw this in the beta, in weekend 2 nobody is reviving because theyβve done it in weekend 1 π
I barely saw people reviving anyway.
That's why I suggested that we scrap weekly challenges and replace them with life long challenges that dont/can't be done in a week
only the first weekend for me
Challenges that aren't limited to a timeframe but in return are actually challenging and take time to complete
That way u also never miss out on the rewards. Many 'i suppose' have j*bs and r employed, so its not feasible to have weekly challenges that u gotta grind for to obtain
I miss when games had challenges that covered everything. Like you get some dumb ones in the beginning for swapping to your secondary instead of reloading type stuff, and then later on it's like 10,000 kills with 1 weapon that gave you a dope item to show off
Or even just give us medals and let us watch our number just go up perpetually
i think community challenges would be awesome
like helldivers style?
yeah why not
+1
i like the idea, but at the same time it could have the same problem as weekly challenges where people wont do anything else other than the challenge
I thing the challenge itself needs to be passive instead of offensive, so that ppl aren't sweating against each other and ruining the fun
yeah and that is kinda hard to come up with
something like heals, resupply or spawn on squadmates, spots sure, but like what else is there that doesnt limit the gameplay too much
Hey man, that's why I just paid $130 instead of $90
Destruction receipts is a good way to start
Its implemented in a horrible way tho
Many will be crashing jets and helis at first so let's turn that into something positive worth trying
Wdym
For BF6 Beta we had it but did even completed it
The 1 trillion $ worth of destruction for an unique LMG skin
Almost no one participated in the receipt event because 1. they didnt advertice is enough and 2. You had to upload it on platforms instead of having it be passively done by people just playing the game.
Yea
Okay first of I'm dying laughing at ur about me π second of, I totally agree with u. I only found out about destruction receipts when the beta closed and I was at the home screen cycling thru the on screen messages
Medics who don't revive deserve to be pointed at and laughed at

Might I say even in 2042 Medic players do their job better than 6
Not to mention the game wasn't recognized by Nvidia so no one could record their screens
I'm one of the good ones in bf6
Average revives per game? 13

I found bf6 medics to be better than most games, with 2042 having the worst medic players.
I'd prolly get more if the beta was longer
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yeah and thats simply not the way to do community events, which is sad
Maybe I was cursed but in most of my games besides my friends who Olay medic, nearly every medic player walked past me
Cod player sees defibs: huh? What that? Oh it can kill enemy
Can't wait to play Medic with MG
Because there r 2 types of medics, ones who revive BC they care about their score, and ones who care about team play and objective. U need to queue with friends so that u get the good medics
I mean I get the Defib kills are funny but healing teammates with it is also nice
I care about winning and score, so I'm doubly greedy for revives
You forgot the medic that only chose the class for self heal
Was that a soft burn? π

Oh god, oh god no
I'm SO glad the self injected stim doesn't regenerate health
Cod players can suck it now
Tbh, the assault adren doesnt FEEL like it does anything
It's so funny to me watching clips of cod players abusing movement while getting kills then they use the stim thinking it's like cod where it helps them reset tactical sprint and regenerates health
It's meant to make u immune to stun/flash grenades and stuff like that
It has nothing to do with health
Yeah but I probably got flashed less than 5 times during the entire beta
And none of them was I expecting to get flashed, so I wasnt going to use stim
Maybe it'll be more useful down the road when more gadgets get introduced
You can see enemies through walls
Kinda
Sorta
It's like an afterimage
And the enemies need to be super near
Were talking about the basic stim, not the ultimate ability stim. And they removed that now anyway
It now just applies the Adrenaline effects to your squad
And explosive resist
Used in very niche situations, so it kinda feels useless compared to other classes abilities
Medic's ultimate ability is kind of op
You become a mobile supply bag for ten seconds
Ten seconds is a lot of time
I didn't even know there were 2 different stims π€
Yeah there were in the beta, confusing game design choice
Goes to show how much cod made me despise stims, I didn't even bother to check
The one that comes back on respawn, and the ultimate ability one
I think you re-earned it through getting XP
U mean the 'press 6' to use one?
yh
ye XP. 6
Ohhh
I didn't even know that existed π€
So what's the special ability for the assault class
I forgor
Wait, isn't the stim for the assault class?
Yeah the assault gets two injections basically
Which is why I say its bad game design
Oh I thought it was for the support class for a second
Okay so what's the special ability for the support?
It just makes it so people can run up to the support player and grab ammo off their body for a limited time
Not very good tbh
Oh interesting, I never used that
Im sure it would be better when support gets more gadgets and they dont use Ammo box
I barely use special abilities anyways
But yeah in beta Support ability was useless because of the Supply Crate being on every support
we don't know yet im afraid
I think the support one turned yourself into a resupply bag
Like it healed/gave ammo to anyone in a certain radius
Going up to a support and grabbing heals/ammo is the default passive
What's the current situation with the game? Is there any way or we need to wait till October
Unless you get a battlefield labs invite youll have to wait till october
Do u have any idea if bf6 will run fine on the series s
Also in #lfg-xbox Iβm looking for SOMEOEN to play with on Xbox battlefield 6 and we can go grind this game
Iβm kinda new to battlefield
So Iβll like SOMEOEN to support me the way through
Yes itβs the stim. Immunity to stun and flash
Unless you mean the tier 4 one, which is still stim but just with wallhacks
Hol' up
Wallhacks, eh?
This was kinda funny to read lmao
Yea that's what I figured. I haven't used stims and special abilities much but I think they will be handy in BR If they carry over
Very close range, required the enemy to be making sound
Since the stim also lowered ambient volumes and raised footsteps, itβs meant to be an abstraction of giving you better positional audio by highlighting people in audio range
That is certifiably stupid.
Itβs so situational and the payoff of using it so slight that I honestly would prefer if they removed it
Iβm all in for no wallhacks so I agree
The real annoying thing is that it assumes that any audio besides footsteps are useless, and it deafening those other sounds really did not help
Nearby tank rolling by? Not an important sound. Gunshots? Not important. Using it just hindered you more
But Iβd like to think up some other gadget that helps out somehow while maintaining their identity
Yeah, doesn't seem very useful nor desirable.
Do you get to play battlefield 6 rn if i prepurchase
Yeah, that's sort of the problem with assault class imo. It's sort of not a specialist role so deciding on gadgets becomes difficult due to how generic J. Doe the class is. It's sort of like the average rifleman in some militaries where their sole task is to put red dot on target and pull trigger.
I think the real reason why that stim gives u wall hacks is so that u can use the seldge hammer and break ur way thru. But altho this may be the intended way, obviously this will never happen and it'll be abused
Nope gotta wait
Aww man
I know
Iβll probably spend the next 4 hours of my shift thinking about alternatives 
π
Enjoy my lad
But it is definitely a tricky situation. All classes can kill, assaults just do it better. But not all classes (to an extent) can damage tanks, or heal others, or spot as effectively. So it just puts it in an odd situation
-# give assault a single-use disposable anti-structure munition maybe?
Good idea
The sledge hammer
Now buildings ain't lasting more than 1 minute
I mean more akin to the MATADOR-AS or AT4-AST which tbf do have the potential to break gameplay flow.
Theyβve already got specialised launchers for anti - building
I feel it needs to be something else.
I shall meditate on this
"Meditate on this, I shall"
Trying to think of semi-believable alternatives myself as well.
They still use M72 LAWS iirc so why not that
Either that or the AT4
I mean yeah, fair, the problem is how to not make it take away too much from the Engineer
Give assault that suppressive ammo
That doesn't appear on radar
Like stealthy assault
I'd rather that be a regular modification available to all classes. My name might hint at why.
subsonic?
Yes you're right
Yes sorry bad english
i feel like recon would fit that since they have the spec ops thingy
forgot what it was called but each class has 2 sub-class looking thingies
Specializations??
yeah
I saw leaked an assault with a riot shield specialization
i feel like thats what specialists shouldve been in 2042
I think that was just a placeholder image.
Damm
yup, there is more specialists options to be revealed, and point out this and that while there could be something much worse/better...
Ngl I kinda hate the riot shield, at least in its 2042 implementation since it can soak up everything thrown at it. On the other hand, the BF4 implementation was alright in my view with the narrow see-through slit in the shield.
If something broken appears they will instantly nerf it
i swear everything in 2042 feels like its overly op to the point that theres nothing that really stands out as op
I wonder why they call it riot shield, itβs clearly an EOD/Ballistic shield 
EOD suit when
isnt it actually called a ballistic shield in BF4
I honestly can't remember.
Yup
Oh man a shield would be great 
i love shields, i always max level it
I really really hope they have a true server browser for officials not just portal that shit was peak in BF4
yup, bring back server browsing, the quick join stuff can stay, its sorely missing in alot of games now. looking at you consoler game makers π€
A true server browser won't work with the dynamic server system they've got going on methinks
listen, y'all. i'm old as shit. you'd think i "should be taking care of my family or whatever instead of gaming". i've been around for all of it, i've played it all.
matchmaking is so much better for battlefield. what's the point of still having a server browser or portal or whatever at all, other than to split the player base and make matchmaking, especially filtered matchmaking, less efficient?
Ok. π
is that your whole vocabulary? my question at the end isn't rhetorical
No, that is not my whole vocabulary. And to answer your question; it's about community building. Building a community around a server is much easier than building a community around a matchmaker.
Server browser does not separate playerbase from Matchmaking. They're the same servers/matches.
Portal browser separates them. That's why people dont like it.
Server browser doesn't separate anyone.
yeah its fine for usa and eu, oceania has issues of small groups of people waiting in servers that never start
its worse in smaller player base regions
well, the portal and "quick match" in 2042 dose, but 6 is going to fix that
yall think engie spam is gonna be prevalent in BF6 similar to how BF2042 lobbies are rn (90% of matches are engies)
thanks everyone i have gained insight
You're welcome.
Idk but I certainly do not aim to be one of them either way unless absolutely required. I play Recon class religiously.
Im usually an Assault main, but I switched to Engi in 2042 because assault is just weak there, and there's so many vehicles.
in 2042, scatter grenade is the only reason i go assault
play zain if ur assault. HP recovery per kill.
The less fun vehicle players have, the more fun I have
Or, just use Falck for on demand heal, kill or no kill.
And it doesnt regen per kill either. If you get a kill it heals you (20hp?) and starts regen, but if you get another kill during regen, you dont get extra health
That's just evil lmao
Hahahhaha
I mean that's true for every infantry player. When theres no tanks bothering you, you can play the game.
We need the levolution goons back
When theres a tank, you hide from it
But this is battlefield, not animal crossing
When I see a tank I must kill the 8 engineers
- Throwbot
- Grenade pouch (1-2 more grenades)
- 40mm Pike (a guided 40mm grenade)
- Flashbangs as gadgets
- CTS flashbangs (more bangs, less AOE)
- One disposable AT launcher
So I help my team
R u implying that there r 8 engineers repairing the tank?
So true lmao
2 to 12 enginners
Hahahhaha
There is moment that when a tank has more than 2 engineers it just turns into a goddam bossfight
A beta quest that required you to repair 4000 health of any ally tank in order to get the reward
That's why all of this started
Bring back metro
I doubt we'll be able to make wholly new maps from scratch, I'm sorry to say.
π
There's enough maps made already to keep us entertained as is.
So no water based vehicles like 4?
water based vehicle maps can be hell if the land mass is covered in tanks...
Empire state is the new metro
pilot looking for repair guy dm
We kinda will. Asset moving is confirmed and ground editing is soft confirmed
"With the new version of Battlefield Portal, players are encouraged to create anything they desire, although maps will be screened by Battlefield Studios teams as theyβre made public"
Fair enough then
We need battlelog and emblems!!!!
Battlelog equivalent as an option, yes. Emblems, meh.
What about the clans that was running for +10 yrs
Platoons? I am a massive proponent of that sort of functionality.
But imo Platoons need a server browser to be able to thrive, so we'll see what the future holds.
A server browser is way more affective than standardized matchmaking and makes the consumer choice a lot higher in playing something more specific rather than just a blanket version of matchmaking. It also fixes the time to match which theyβve said is their highest priority in matchmaking. But if you can just select whatever map and mode, ping based, and region of players. BF4 was a prime example of how good the matchmaking was.
I 100% get portal but for official based it should have one as well
I agree, but with the infrastructure deployed by EA now, traditional server browser is simply not viable
When match ends, the server shuts down
It's cheaper
JackFrags made a good video about it few days ago
And I understand that itβs a business at the end of the day. It just gives more of a direct choice in what you want to play.
He did make a solid video but for many games now as heβs also explained it would and does help fix the matchmaking issues you do come across. If you take the statement that the developers have said about time to match being number 1 and of course ping
My personal opinion my voice doesnβt have any weight to the devs anyhow lol
I don't know what the general opinion is on this but I personally don't mind waiting 2-6 minutes to get a match on a map I want. I've waited for 20+ minutes in Arma Reforger and honestly didn't mind at all since it let me catch up on other stuff.
Granted that is an extremely different game.
In my opinion we need to stop catering to short attention spans.
Yeah true, time to match hasnβt been any longer than a minute or two usually (considering Iβve been playing 2042 recently) but still Iβm more so talking about wanting to play on specific maps aside from Iwo which is a great map and all just like different maps those are typically longer to find.
I was asked the other day about my thoughts on the Renewal map, and I had to abstain from answering because I haven't gotten that map since it first released in Season 4.
(Granted I haven't been a very committed BF2042 player since then, for obvious reasons).
It's so they can do EOMM. It's not any cheaper to close the server and start them up every time. If anything it costs more
I pre ordered and played 2042 when it first released and it disappointed me very heavily coming from playing since BC2. I havenβt played it until after the BF6 beta. Still havenβt pre ordered it but I am invested and watching what they do and how it goes before I buy after release.
What does EOMM mean?
Engagement optimized match making
Engagement Optimized Matchmaking
That's lame
If you have persistent servers you can't match players up against the players you want them to match up against
It should be organic and not algorithmic
I'm in a similar position myself. I played BF4 heavily (my first BF) but eventually dropped it in favor of the Arma series before coming back briefly after BFV and then for short periods after 2042. Now I'm starting to get more into BF though, since the BF6 Beta.
Despite what players say Activision says that players "enjoy" the game more with EOMM turned on
They ran tests with it on and off and players played more and spent more money with it turned on
I don't like cod. I prefer salmon.
If it makes them more money they aren't going to not do it
Lmao
Unfortunately so. I miss the days where player enjoyment was prioritized above money flow, or at least seemed like it was.
From what Iβve seen and played so far in terms of 6 at the very least there was a functioning scoreboard in the beta π unlike 2042 launch
There was indeed. And an "All" chat π»
Very true
I want to play bf6
Me too, buddy pal friend amigo kamerad comrade
I really do hope they come out strong because they have so much hype and good things right now if they flop the launch (not saying they will but always possible) itβs gonna be really hard to regain the fan base
I want to hear nato support's pretty voice again
Tbh people seem to have said this about a lot of recent games in this series. "They've got to get this right or they'll never recoup"
Itβs true tho
Yeah, but we said the same about 2042.
Are we already getting thirsty over characters in bf6 guys?
BF6 has a chance to set a higher standard for FPS games again
Because tbh FPS nowadays are pretty ass
buttlefield
Especially free to play FPS games
At least they are pretty
@strong echo you want to too
shields Vs Hammers
An unstoppable force against an unmovable object
my body weight vs the inevitability of decay
No Beta is like crack withdrawal
Every gram matters when gravity is your enemy.
Although, in fairness, the recent Call of Duty reveal wasn't received anywhere nearly as well as that syndrome would have predicted.
cracklefield
Almost a month to go
I wonder if we get early access to the campaign if preordered
No, you don't.
I'll play campaign first
It'll probably be over in 5 hours or something anyway, and let the server issues bake a little bit first
what Battlefield had the most player agency?
Interestingly enough I'm almost willing to say Hardline.
Explain player agency?
hm, how do I explain it in English... π€
player agency is when you have impact or influence on the game.
through the game's mechanics.
shooting and hitting enemy players is the most obvious one.
Its kind of sad that bf6 is a bit crappy
can you explain why?
low effort rage bait
I guess pretty much all of them are on par?
Its an opinion
what was your first Battlefield?
BF3
All ea care is abt money over making a game that is well made
why?
Good evening all,
Im back!
To be honest I can't, it's more of an anecdotal memory from when I used to play it.
It's a profit seeking corporation, what did you expect?
Did u hear, they're rolling out this new thing where they show ads between respawns and in loading screens
Yh that will be their downfall
If it works for nba2k
Nope
Hope we have more info about the game this week
It's true, bf6 will come with ads, they're personalized at least 
We talking about the capitalistic gaming industry.
Gameplay is not on par and the atmosphere is off
Yh its a problem with the whole industry
lol a company seeking to make profit is a downfall? lmao
Battlefield 6 is just an easy example
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sounds like it.
Oh yea I sure do love watching IHOP ads everytime I die
Theyre making games solely to make profit which will be their downfall. They donβt care if the game meets expectations or not
bet you have no problem with it using a streaming service, or seeing ads along interstate, or when you're watching youtube/twitch - get used to it.
well yes, they actually do, otherwise they won't sell as many lol. bf2042 was a flop because it was all corporate decision making.
CEO of unemployment right here
I made a post on Reddit about this, unfortunately, itβs the market. Battlefield can copy like everyone else but, still come out on top and offer something different I.E destruction? Vehicle ware fare, movement, gunplay, classes. Itβs a market war, although our beloved battlefield has a chance to copy others and still keep somewhat of its identity and come out on top.
And battlefield 6 is also all corporate decision making
must be aliberal, just run straight to the insults when you have nothing else worth saying. way to go lmao
It's literally in ur name lmfao, straight to victim card
would you like to see custom emblems come back? imo it would be nice to see them with option to turn them off. its aleready an 18+ game
mmm no it isn't, developers are actually able to have input and listening to community feedback, nice try.
more insults.
More tears
Yeah theyre not listening. Prime example is the shit class system where everyone can have the same weopons
worthless, done bantering with you. go back to you lbgtqia+ gathering
its a split, not everyone likes it. so they compromised.
and not everyone hates it
This can work - attract βgeneric FPS playersβ whilst, also, proving closed class options/servers.
or just change them back to closed and trick all the new customers lol.
so id say a compromise is listening. just because it isnt 100 percent what you want.
It's in his name, except the useful part
Yh it will work but it wont meet their expectations and everything will close down. Some of these investors are expecting 100m copies in sales like
If he admits to it why should we bother with him lmfao
jokes played out, but instead it wasnt even funny the first time.
Why u still talking to me, I'm not interested, move on pal
then block?
I'm gonna head out, enjoy your debate chaps
Itβs the market, games are made for profit not entertainment, simple.
Its ok as long as education improves over time there will be less dumbasses
what was the last game you enjoyed?
He never heard of that word unfortunately, hence the name
Last of us
and the last Battlefield game?
Good choice that was epic during covid.
Battlefield 1
I bet
the only thing you keep going back to is my username, you have no real insult nor anything noteworthy to contribute. i hope you don't have kids that you try to mutate into an animal or opposite gender.
weird mental defects
Ain't no way I got under his skin like that π
its not funny, its actually disgusting and disturbing
Lol
Point and laugh
based
not under my skin, i actually feel really bad for your left winged upbringing.
corruption personified.
π«΅π»π€‘
Whats a left wing
ope more insults lmao
because its blatantly obvious what you represent
"when i have nothing to argue - insult"
Whos arguing
ive been on the topic of politics since pretty much the first few texts.

Like I said, I'm not interested, kick rocks bud
I have no enemies, but u seem to be bothered by it
or is this an issue where you have a problem, but dont wanna fix it because then you'll have nothing to complain about lol
How are we doing today chat!!
great!
We're doing fantastic, just pointing out the clowns amongst us
Do you like fish sticks?
point proven
He asked a simple question to a simple minded creature, why r u so offended
because its a dumb joke, stop downplaying his feeble attempt at trying to be cute and funny
Never met sm who doesnt like fish sticks
right right
See? He was simply asking, but u seem to be hogging all those victim cards
Get a grip
nahh, he was diverting his joke to play into your cover
I don't see any jokes in his question
thats because he didnt present the punchline, but you know where he was going with it.
He's a free United States citizen and he has the right to freedom of speech
Stop infringing on his constitutional rights
Since when is this BF6
lol
Back to politics I see eh? Sad
real, these guys aint even being lore accurate smh
oh back to insults i see
He's confused
im confused? i was born a male therefore im a male.
Lost in the sauce
more insults
Hard not to
Huh? Who said anything about this?
i know, its hard to restrain yourself when you have nothing of any use to say.
Yaβll think the BF6 portal creator will make modes like GTA 5 custom jobs can?
Still confused
Holy Yap
Just wait and see
"when insults don't work, play stupid"
who is bro quoting
Idk
Lmfaooo
im speaking on thier behalf
π«΅π»π€‘
whats up conehead
waiting for bf 1 to download
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Please be quiet.
oh okay because you asked so nicely
For real, ur becoming a joke
Thank you
Anyways
Vat

Out of curiosity, what are people's opinion(s) on having multi-charge flashbangs in-game?
Multi charge?
Whats that
flashbangs are useless anyway so
Cool ig
Yes, flashbangs that go off more than once. Reference CTS 2/3/6/9-bang flashbang grenades.
Hmm
Like in r6
Personally I wouldn't mind having a CTS 3-Bang grenade as an option but have it have less effect radius.
I think Iβd have to play with them to get a good feel. Flashbangs are great in games like CS when you know where someone is but they kinda suck in games like cod and battlefield
No idea, never played it enough to remember anything about it.
I think the multi pop idea would make them work
not using smokes = actually griefing
Real
The idea is to make it slightly less predictable.
So it's not always just one pop and then, snap back, instead having them as an option for longer duration but shorter effect radius.
Alternatively maybe the CTS Mini-Bangs could be an option for having more of them but a shorter effect radius.
Yeah I do like the idea I think it would make them more viable in this sort of game
They're quite funny to watch in action since they also have a tendency to jump about.
9 bang would be awesome (like it did back in OG MW3) but I guess gonna be broken asf
I think 9 might be a bit too much but 2 or 3 would be nice.
Yup true
What would be nice tho is for us to be able to use two grenade types at once
Well tbf why not, ainβt that how soldiers irl have anyway 
No
Still makes sense than a throwing knife btw
So does throwing knives in U.S. troops
Even tier 1s donβt use em
Yeah because that shit is useless against body armor plates
And no one is hitting a head or neck shot
Like titanfall π
True, and shotgun pellets wonβt mean anything also against the MSV or just the typical plate carrier vest too
Hence why you donβt bring them to war too lol
Fast helmets wonβt protect against rifle rounds as well
They were very effective in WW1 however
I mean we can list every inaccuracy and unrealistic stuff in the game but it is just a game anyway
We should just have the spetsnaz helmet
No I mean the FAST helmets
ACH definitely could, maybe 
Well for small calibers yeah
They are called fast why donβt they give speed boosts
They do once you hear a shot going besides your ears. Insta adrenaline boost
I heard they can make you slide longer in bf6
@worn marten Has your meditation produced any results?
really?
Only if you are FAST enough
oh damn
It got interrupted by angry clients so it was not fruitful
I am sorry to hear this. I came up with some alternatives myself #battlefield-6 message
Saw the list, will think up my own when I can sit down
Very good very nice
Also, on a side note, the fact there is a laser-guided 40mm UGL round with a maximum range of roughly two thousand (2 000) meters is fucking insanity.
battlefield 6 fans when...
Another week trying to contact EA support to get back into my account... nothing. Bought the $100 version and nothing
Youβre locked out?
I was locked out and got in with the chat
How does that happen
Got a new email. Forgot to update it before it changed on the ea account
Had to give them a lot of stuff
IP and security questions
I play 2042 through Steam and pre ordered 6 through Steam and in true EA fashion it still asks me to pre order every time I launch 2042
To be fair EA wouldnβt know you own the game until the key is entered into EA when you launch the game
Maybe EA wanna say: Do you want pre order for your friend?
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Friends family and pets living or deceased
past, present and future :)
Of course, spread joy!
There needs to be a Thick44 skin
Glad to see the first post on Reddit is about movement
Anyway, back to a meaningful conversation
Why's that? Do u love movement or something? 
I wish they made movement speed in bf6 the same as in 2042
Hate it with a passion
Yoooooo
Movement? In MY grounded and realistically themed combined arms sandbox shooter, a rubbish notion
- proceeds to jump air strafe away
You got an answer... I have been trying to get one since Battlefield Labs was announced. Nothing
Did you use chat?
I'm sure this has been asked before but is any body else in a slump with gaming with waiting on bf6? In my 30 years of life I've never had this happen lol and Arc Raiders coming out. Like I'm not enjoying anything right now
I had that back when 2042 launched, playing older games and making games has reignited that spark
I'ma have to do something. Like I've got games to play but I'll play for like an hour and try and find something else.
Is it just multiplayer PvP ones you play?
Struggling really bad with that lately too
I registered for the labs playtest like a year ago, and once again now, is there any known date that I'm likely to get an invite
It is not a guaranteed invite. You may get one, you may not. No one knows.
fair enough, just to know how likely, do yk roughly how many ppl actually have access
No, I don't think anyone has an accurate figure on how many have/had/will have access.
alr appreciate it
All good!
is there anyone I can sell myself to for access I'm particularly desperate
my dignity and self worth
You can sell your soul to the game development occupation and strive for a position at one of the Battlefield Studios and get access that way.
Good idea, where do I start
by learning programming
There's various approaches, a good starting point is downloading a game engine.
because I have 0 experience whatsoever and its not like you need any to work for them
bro thinks developers are the decision makers
no the decision makers are higher its just the development have no idea what they're doing and hired more because of their identity than their skill
Developers are implementers, not decision makers.
i LOVE how ea isnt adding ray tracing to bf6
i cant wait for game to release man
same
it looks better how it is I'd rather it run smoothly without
Been grinding 2042 for the free stuff
need to survive until 10 october xd
Me neither
Its fun if youre good at it
i still play mw3 2023 but bo6 is bad
Until the game decides to make you not good at it
but im thinking of giving warzone a chance again until bf6 drops
play Arx fatalis. Just finished it, great game
bo6 is overhated, the zombies is peak
I preordered bo7 hopefully they dont disappoint
i wont buy bo7 bcs there is game pass
and i will wait to see how it will be
bcs i dont want same thing to happen like in bo6
those operator skins and everything
i actually bought bo7 and forgot i had gamepass π
can you cancel pre order maybe?
I heard it wasn't that bad at the start
refund?
it was really good at start
I can try
but later it got pretty boring
My friend said it was average
your friend is lying
And now he hates it (he's a huge cod fan)
same
btw i dont play multiplayer, only zombies. Dont listen to my opinion
He has literally every cod in his library π
i didnt play bf6 beta bcs i was lazy to install it lol
It was peak
Found this comment by KimiBleikkonen on reddit in discuss about classes and open weapons in bf6
It's funny how open weapons turn every class with snipers into a major inbalance except for the one class they were actually designed for
support: snipers tower camping while supplying themselves with ammo and health
engineers: snipers tower camping and blowing up tanks from unreachable areas for tanks
assault: snipers tower camping and pulling out a shotgun when you try to approach their spawn beacon enforced camping spot
recon: well I guess they have C4 and can spot enemies which are already spotted via the games' constant auto spotting
What's your thoughts about it?
π
I'm still addicted.... I want more
but now i cant wait for game to release nad buy it
oops wrong message
I was too lazy to grind the beta missions
All bf fans complaining about too small maps in the beta meanwhile some cod players complain that they're too big π
didnt we also say this about bf2042
modern
It wasn't hard to grind them, though
Whatβs wrong with auto spotting anyway ?
I enjoyed these 33 hours a lot
I wasnt on a lot
And I got all twitch drops too
"Not that hard"
imma install warzone rn
And now I'm grinding battle pass
Awesone
Bro it's not a lot π
33 hours bro
cant play mp its boring a lil
You're crazy
It's just a lil bit more than a day
i cant play mw3 2023 mp and bo6 mp

its better to play with friends
33 hours for what ?
mw2 was peak imo
I played only around 4 hours a day
bcs they didnt buy cods
Battlefield 6 open beta
dude i play 2 hours a weekend at most
I'm 15 I can do it π
What about it though ?
π π
Sometimes 60
my lord
It's weird when recon takes lmg and auto spot everyone even through smoke
On you mean you played a total of 33 hours of the beta ?
Just lower the settings π
Yes
But i love how the game looks
The game looks really good on the lowest settings
I mean like when I hit 110 it hurts
Usually getting 150
Now I feel like I had a lot with my 120 hours π
max settings
Spoiled π
Very spoiled
i paid for it with my own money man
Still
"I hit only 110 fps"
π§ how is it spoiled if we bought our setup our self
π
not at all
π
No I mean complaining about that you don't have 150+ fps on max settings is kind of weird
I just like smooth gameplay
110 is not smooth? π
I have a 240 hz monitor so it feels weird sometimes
cool
Enough for 1080p gaming
Out of my budget bruh
whats the budget
Ain't no way I'm paying 600 dollars for 9060xt 16 gb
400 dollars
Let me go find sm for you
I live in Russia
Ok that changes things
And AMD is more expensive than Nvidia here
Ahhh
Understandable
400 dollars is cheap for this GPU here
Rtx 4060 costs more for some reason
And AMD is just overpriced asf
are you sure the cpu is good enough for the gpu
Uhhhh I think so?
i5 11400f isn't that bad
I think it will be a good pair
And more than enough for me
Unfortunately it will cause a pretty noticeable bottleneck
hey guys.. if anyone has played Uncharted games, can tell me from which game I should start?
Wont be getting max performance out of the gpu
what. the whole point of AMD GPUs was being not overpriced like Nvidia lol
I don't care
The only game where I'd use rt or smth like that would be Minecraft
Every couthas different prices
MINECRAFT RAY TRACING
mc ray tracing is amzing
It's everything I need
only bedrock suppots RT tho
i have a 4070 ti super
how? is there a mod?
oh shaders
Minecraft even has 16k resource packs π
nb using that
Yeah
SEUS PTGI my beloved
I dreamed about running Minecraft with ray tracing since bedrock got official support of it π
I wish nvidia cared about their gamers like the 10 and 16 series
their claim about the 5070 and 4090 was bs
Watched some benchmarks and the 5070 performs about 3 percent better than the 3090
16 series somehow still get official driver support, though
I wouldnt be expecting them doing that for too much longer
I think around 2-4 years
Maybe 2
Because if they end support for 16 series that means they'll end it for 20 series too
20 series sucked
You have a j*b
yes
And first dlss too
Yeah
And hard to add in the game too
yall can still use upscaling
this pitiful 25-35 damage per missile when you need 2000 is pissing me off -_-
I meann rtx 5060 can run cyberpunk maxed out with dlss on quality with 60+ fps (no path pacing though)
parh tracing is bs
Tracing*
Real
No one will give me more money for this sadly π
Jobs
youre 15 right?
They want me to be like 17-18 so I can work 12 hours a day
For around 200 dollars per month
Or
Maybe mow some lawns
damn
π€₯
They dont pay much in russia huh
It really depends on who you are though
I mean it looks like they pay some good money
But at the same time you have a lot of responsibilities
Yea
Especially in the shops
Because they don't want to hire more people
It's cheaper to hire 3 employees and pay them a lil bit more than average than hiring 6 and paying all of them average salary
Hey
maybe you could get the 3060
12 gb vram
rt and dlss
and wont bottleneck
Don't forget that vram isn't the only thing that affects performance though
Yes ik
But 12 is better than 8
bf6 will hit hard on the gpu and cpu
do you play 2042 at all?
Yes
Uhhh I didn't have any CPU problems in bf6 ig?
Mostly GPU limited me ngl
Nah I hopped back on gears story, halo, and I'm thinking bout getting chronos
multiplayer games are more cpu intensive, especially ones with tons of destruction
I played the finals recently and I didn't have any fps problems ngl

