battlefield-6

[tight prism]

The engine officially, last I saw commented by Dice, can handle 512 concurrent in one match. Imagine that for the BR.

[white moss]

Engine yes but what about their servers?

[tight prism]

I can smell the smoke.

[white moss]

Also with that many players you would need a 5090 9800X3D

Consoles would be locked to 30fps and would get halved the player count

[tight prism]

"My frames my frames why hast thou forsaken me."

[white moss]

Right it's.....Unreal

[tight prism]

You could say it is "Power To Away From the Players."

[white moss]

"EA they in your wallet"

[tight prism]

Alrighty, one quick morning 2042 match to try to get that multikill vehicle go boom, then sleep.

[chilly shore]

and hopefully optimized
oi mama you won't get how much I've longed for that Батон

[white moss]

Multi kills one just do redacted and throw c4

[chilly shore]

pour me some crystal vodka, I'm returning to the zone

sorry

[worn marten]

wel if reddit says so then I guess they just have to comply!

[worthy solstice]

does anyone know if we will get ribbions or medals or battallog? ><

i am praying each day for medalss and ribbions

[proper hawk]

Foolish humans, playing your silly simulations of "war"
The Klingons will conquer your world with ease

[chilly shore]

god I honestly want ribbons back

it always feel like an accomplishments

[lyric raft]

I rarely go on Reddit
It’s in the battlefield discord and on any bf6 post on social media that I’ve seen lots of comments

[chilly shore]

the feeling of being on top of the leaderboard despite only giving ammo and health

[worn marten]

can gaurantee people aren't raving about unrealism

[worthy solstice]

frfr

[chilly shore]

pretty much the "I'm one of the reason everyone is fighting"

[worthy solstice]

xd

[chilly shore]

if your soldier could wear those ammo ribbons, I'd be covered all over that they have to make a coat for my extra ribbons

[worthy solstice]

i hope dice is reading it , i am just hoping that they are cooking up ribbions and not trying to throw them away

[lyric raft]

Oh they are 🙈
Even about the feel of the gun fire and recoil or bullet drop etc

[proper hawk]

tlhIngan Hoch SoH!

[chilly shore]

Ribbons give you that thrill, you don't feel useless because of it, even something so small like giving ammo away will have a huge impact

[worn marten]

even if they achieve realistic gun feel people would consider it unrealistic, they want exaggerated force and weight, not what is actually realistic

[lyric raft]

Some of my best bf memories are from bad company when you could go into a building , go up a floor or two, blow a hole in the wall then blow a hole in the side of the neighbouring building and jump across 🤪🤣

[proper hawk]

honestly even the kill notification is lackluster, whenever you blow up a tank you see something flash in the corner of your eye for half a second and that's it

[worthy solstice]

yes it gives me the " dopamine kick" and makes you keep wanna play and entertained like bf2042 so boring the ribbions there

[proper hawk]

I want the big "ENEMY KILLED" letters back

and the headshot sound from BF1

[chilly shore]

That ammo box you drop may seem small but they're the reason why your teammates are still fighting and getting kills, your ammo is responsible for those kills

all those tanks destroyed, your ammo might've helped

welp

I decide to watch some anime while waiting for BF6

my withdrawals are sorta gone

[worthy solstice]

what anime ur watching?

[chilly shore]

Yu Gi Oh Zexal 2, Rental Magica. I'm going down memory lane

[proper hawk]

demon slayer!

movie is out soon

[worthy solstice]

ouw i never watched yugioh >< ut i9 am a big adventre and isekai nerd

[chilly shore]

Yu Gi Oh Zexal's English dubbing is kinda crap that I have to watch the Japanese version, it's the same version I watched in my childhood except they kept the Intro japanese while the rest of the dubbing Filipino

[celest belfry]

Buff the A10

[proper hawk]

what's an a10?

[celest belfry]

Oops meant F16

[proper hawk]

the jet?

[celest belfry]

It’s pretty much garbage in BF6 yes

As is the heli

[proper hawk]

hard to tell when you have a pond to fly in

[tight prism]

Yeah, might have to. I was hoping to get a second vehicle multikill but was one shy of it. Did get my "airdrops," and damage/destroy progress though.

Once I get my sleep I will continue the grind. If I do not get the multi via the vehicle missions we will see about it later, but at T45 I may just not worry about that mission(just like with the 100m one). I do not really like the active anti-vehicle playstyle with engineer, I prefer repairs and sneaky demolitions with my repair tool in the ideal conditions.

[orchid badger]

Jet v jet is insanely fast for some reason. Don't think I've ever seen it that fast in bf, maybe I'm wrong

[frank dust]

3,246,565 seconds remain until Battlefield 6

[celest belfry]

Yeah but that is the only good

Considering it’s an F16 it’s supposed to be a great Air-To-Ground force

[vocal sedge]

you can get it in vehicle only servers playing engineer in a tank

just destroy like 3 tanks and youve got it

[spiral lotus]

Do you think battlefield 6 will have customizable shoe technology, where we can change the lace color, aglets and more?

[native raft]

They don't even have model customisation beyond skins, and we're out here asking for aglet customisation?

[dense cloak]

Yes the Aglets are needed more than customization of vehicles

[lucid yoke]

😴

[spiral lotus]

thats what im saying!

[bright hare]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdVweQSS/

[inner swan]

#screenshots-and-clips You seem to just be promoting your own content quite frequently in the server. Make sure you post it in the appropriate channels. id:customize

[stiff rain]

I hope this game is like bfv and bf1 where it’s a persistent server and just map rotation so if a team beats us by a close game we can just stay in same game after some trash talking and face off again to try and gain a win. If it’s like bf2042 and after each map the map and server change thus not allowing friendly competition or Milsim match ups where each side can be filled with opposing teams I think the game will struggle in the long run, we hated bf42 server and map rotation and the players absolutely loved persistent servers and rotation of maps, in public official lobbies,

[valid drift]

It's the latter

[merry heron]

We need one map like operation locker from Battlefield 4. The most fun I had in a Battlefield game

[rocky granite]

Make it

I'm only making meat grinder maps in Portal, I can't wait

[distant pendant]

matchmaking will work as bf2042, but the portal server browser seems like it should be much better than 2042, and full XP

[willow lance]

There won’t be persistent servers in base game sadly

Portal seems to be the main way to play BF6

[idle kelp]

Lowkey, metro should stay stay in the past where it belongs. Op Locker should make its return

[willow lance]

Nah

Bring back BF3 CQC maps instead

[idle kelp]

Alr yeh

[vague thunder]

Those were fun

[versed rock]

BF2 + BF2MC combined to make a remaster. Now that’s a GOAT 🐐
im for annual releases if it means we get this in 2027 haha

[tight prism]

[versed rock]

Annual releases could work. For example, if they have us BF3 + BF4 remaster just over a year of BF6 release - we will probably take that.

[tight prism]

[simple coral]

No Battlefield 6 to play… I’m dying over here. 🎮💀

[fathom summit]

Yeah. Good memories on Metro but I feel like it's starting to become BF's version of Nuketown. An overused map so much that it almost becomes unlikable

As others mentioned BF3 had some cool CQC maps they could bring back instead

[wide elbow]

wake me up when September ends 🥱🥱😴😴

[fathom summit]

I can wake you on October 1st but you'll still have 10 days left to wait

[simple coral]

If they could just recreate the classics of Battlefield 3 and 4, nothing else would even need to change.

[tight prism]

Play bo6 lol

Isnt that bad tbh

[wide elbow]

its okay cause many ppl here would play Battlefield : Discord on this server in that 10 days.

[versed rock]

Trust me I know you love BF3 and BF4 as most people do. Trust me when I say a BF2 + BFMC2 mix remaster would be absolutely phenomenal. The point is, many of us have played BF3 and BF4 but, very few have played the spiritual root of the game.

[spiral lotus]

no

bf3 and bf4 plays like trash nowadays its extremely dated

[shrewd abyss]

yes, the issue is being time-limited just for the sake of it

[spiral lotus]

let people buy old battlepasses more money earned and players can get old cosmetics they might have missed

[simple coral]

I mean bringing over the classic parts from Battlefield 3 and 4, not remaking a whole new version.

[shrewd abyss]

Helldivers 2 isnt, Deep ROck Galactic isnt, Marvel Rivals to some extent is, but after you buy it its permanent

[simple coral]

At the very least, I’d rather play Battlefield 4 — I just don’t vibe with 2042.

[shrewd abyss]

But also introducing ALWAYS new content and making previous ones still relevant makes veterans and new players like the game even more for respecting their time

BF3 in the coop

[long magnet]

I’ll buy every battle pass released if we up the squad sizes from 4 to 5

[shrewd abyss]

BF3 and BF4 had that

[simple coral]

I still hop on Battlefield 4 to relive the old maps, even though it’s kinda rough now and there are barely any players left.

[tight prism]

I couldn't go back to that game, looks trash lol

[devout light]

bf4 def is outdated lol

[versed rock]

Perfect BFMC2 maps that include;

-BACSTAB

• A BRIDGE TO FAR
• COLD FRONT
  -DAMMAGE
• DEADLY PASS
• FROST BITE
• FULL FRONTAL
• HARBOUR EDGE
  -HIDDEN
  -HONOUR
• LITTLE BIG EYE
  -RUSSIAN BORDER
• SPECIAL OPS
  -THE BLACK GOLD
  -THE NEST

Check this maps out guys! You would love the layouts best 12v12 maps ever. Combined with BF2 maps for a remaster honestly, that’s a battlefield best seller

[simple coral]

I still remember back when I didn’t have a PC at home, carrying my external hard drive to the internet café just to play Battlefield 4. Every time, I had to re-verify the game files.

[shrewd abyss]

it is, but still has one of the best customization in the series

i just want extensive cosmetic customizzation

[devout light]

u right

give us fortnite customization

[shrewd abyss]

charater cosmetic would be BFV (the customization itself, not the cosmetics)

[willow lance]

Fr fr

Victory dances too no cap

[devout light]

i want a peter griffin skin

give US fortnite item shop, or WE riot

[versed rock]

Check out these graphics - PS2/XBOX bare that in mind. While battlefield was years ahead of COD (with no multilayer) we ‘battlefield fans’ was enjoying a masterpiece of multiplayer gameplay way ahead of its time. Battlefield set the bar very high at the time. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQQvHL3u0jk&pp=ygUWQmZtYzIgbXVsdGlwbGF5ZXIgbWFwc9IHCQmyCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

You probably can’t appreciate it, obviously you may not be born then or, the graphics compared to BF6 is inferior- which I agree. Although, as gamers, we know ‘gameplay’ does supersede many other aspects but, it does depend on platform and genre.

If it was that much ass, players wouldn’t go out their way literally to try and resurrect a 20 year old game rather than play any other battlefield - just to play the multiplayer (it’s that good)

[foggy vessel]

back from the gulag

[winged marten]

They can't. All the devs are long gone. BFV was the last battlefield that resembled battlefield

[versed rock]

Literally, do your research I don’t want to say too much. But, let’s just say somehow it happened raised from the dead like lazzarus. Not BF3 not BC1 not BC2 not even BF2. BFMC2 got a whole resurrection 😂

[foggy vessel]

i meant myself i was banned

[versed rock]

I cry I cry 😭 I believe in this DICE team though, they can. Anything is possible, I know there is the ‘chosen ones’ coming up through the ranks, let’s just have faith.

[versed rock]

Oh lol what for.? It does happen to a few members of this discord - me included.

[foggy vessel]

for a word

[versed rock]

What word say it

[foggy vessel]

a word thats with w and ends with app

[versed rock]

I dare you lol

[supple thistle]

There's still tons of veterans at Dice I don't know how this rumor started.

[versed rock]

The moderators have put the fear of god in us all - we shall never speak I’ll of the devs, battlefield or one another for our outlandish opinions ever again 😁

[foggy vessel]

💡 it was auto bann timeout 24 hours

[winged marten]

The devs can make a great game for sure but I wouldn't expect another BF3 or BF4

[versed rock]

It wouldn’t suprise me, although what y’all need to realise is that the status quo has changed. The market has evolved, competition is at its peak. The veteran DICE devs couldn’t even implement certain ideas even if they tried - just me.

[willow lance]

BF6 is just BF3: 2 tbh

[eager sedge]

Bf6 sucks lol

[timid otter]

😭😭there’s so many leaks of the game all over twitter it’s crazy

[stiff zealot]

i know your trolling

[supple thistle]

In terms of technical achievements BF1 and BFV are superior to 3 and 4, 2042 just had a lot of development problems due to shifting visions

[versed rock]

Don’t say that you will get banned for negative comments.

[foggy vessel]

idont care about leaks the game is gonna be updated so often

[eager sedge]

Haha they delete my comments when I said Mirak Valley sucks balls

[winged marten]

More like mw19+BFV but sure

[willow lance]

BF3:

• Fast TTK
• Fast movement
• Lots of CQC maps
• Defensive playstyle especially compared to like of BF4 or 2042
  BF6:
• Fast TTK
• Fast movement
• Lots of CQC maps
• Defensive playstyle

[eager sedge]

Temu Ground War

[winged marten]

And what you're saying makes sense mathematically too

[foggy vessel]

i think the mods are pretty chill only the automod is a problem

[supple thistle]

Ground war is ass and plays nothing like bf6, have you actually played ground war?

[eager sedge]

I have. They feel the same.

[winged marten]

Features that make bf6 look like mw19

1. The UI for getting into matches
2. The crosshairs
3. Every single animation is codmw19
4. The gunplay
5. Most guns have fake names
6. PMC factions
7. Every map is small except for mirak valley which is more of a medium sized map by bf standards.
8. The mounting mechanics. Gone are the days of the amazing BF1 and BFV bipods, now we have to press F while ADSing to mount guns. Did i also mention that just like in cod, you can mount any gun on any surface even if it doesn't have a bipod?
   9.. The point feed for when you capture flags or get kills
9. The side messages like 'Vehicle Buster' or 'Longshot' which are copied from CODMW19 that has side messages like 'Bloodthirsty' when you get lots of kills
10. Ultimate abilities
11. Named characters with backstories in multiplayer

[willow lance]

BF6 is actually BF3x2 ☝️🤓

[versed rock]

I got banned for suggesting the ‘community was massacred’ because they got rid of platoon support. Which, really are just many and various friendship groups ‘in the thousands’ which consisted of a lot of veteran players. Absolutely annihilated them, I still can’t comprehend why..🤔

by the way many didn’t play 2042 because of this, I hope they realise that and make changes to battlefield 6

[willow lance]

Crosshairs what?

[winged marten]

Honestly I got more ground war and medal of honour vibes in bf6 beta 😭

[winged marten]

The crosshairs are a direct rip from mw19

[blazing peak]

Can't wait for the Kendrick Lamar mustard bundle

[bleak forge]

Server browser and the ability to rent persistent customs servers - or this game sucks!

[supple thistle]

Most guns have fake names is literally all games now. Developers don't want the bad publicity of funding gun companies through licensing fees

[willow lance]

Gunplay is nothing like COD
BC games had PMCs too so?
BF3 beta was literally Metro
Mounting was in BF3 and 4
Rest of your complaints are nothingburger

[willow lance]

What kind of crosshair do you expect? Skull shaped one?

[light cypress]

Hello guys How are you
I m french sorry for my english

[foggy vessel]

its crazy how there was never a minute on this discord were nobody was complaining besides when all went afk

[blazing peak]

Your English is really bad dude sorry

[weary cove]

Bf6 is a mw2019 copypasta

[eager sedge]

Such a shame that they ban you for a completely valid suggestion. They have been trying to alienate the community aspect of Battlefield for a while. The franchise isnt what it used to be and never will be the same. The soul of the game left with the OG DICE devs

[winged marten]

Gunplay, recoil patterns, weapon sway is mw19
BC games had PMCs but they weren't the only factions in multiplayer, we had real countries like US vs RU
BF3 beta was just metro but we got larger maps later
You are absolutely thick with the mounting thing, they copied the cod mw19 mounting system
And the BFV crosshair was perfect it had that unique battlefield flair to it why copy cod now

[light cypress]

Sorry bro

[blazing peak]

Mw2019 copied battlefield 6

[willow lance]

BFV had mounting too so?

[versed rock]

Great observation, but, we have to be honest all FPS copy from each other. however, BF5 movement and gunplay was touted as ‘the best’ in those aspects so, I don’t know why they didn’t copy this completely.

[foggy vessel]

your english is fine i am good thanks

[weary cove]

Mw2019 ground war is just BF6.

Dying to dudes hiding in a mountain sniping.

Dying to dudes who crouch in corners and don’t move.

Dying to vehichles that absolutely control the game

Instant TTK

Awful spawns

[willow lance]

Also gunplay is nothing like COD, the fact BF has spread makes it quite different. CoD is just auto aim laserbeam

[light cypress]

Thank bro

[willow lance]

That’s in all the BF games

[winged marten]

Jesus CHRIST
I DIDNT SAY MOUNTING WAS NEVER IN BATTLEFIELD
THE SYSTEM OF MOUNTING. PRESSING A BUTTON WHILE ADSing IS FROM COD AND BF6 USES IT. AND JUST LIKE COD MW19 BF6 ALLOWS YOU TO MOUNT ANY GUN ON ANY SURFACE EVEN WITHOUT A BIPOD
PLEASE LEARN TO READ

[weary cove]

No it’s not lmao

I can’t remember the last time I saw a dude hiding in a mountain spying on me like the CIA in 2042

there are mountain rats in 2042

They are hardly effective and it’s not HALF the team

[willow lance]

BF6 snipers are broken that’s why people snipe

[weary cove]

Exactly. Just like MW2019

[willow lance]

2042 snipers are mostly balanced

[weary cove]

Encourage standing still and camping by making TTK instant and sniping OP

[willow lance]

SWS deals max 60 damage in 2042, 80-90 in BF6

[versed rock]

I know right petty, I think the in-house team are really COD fans 😂 we have a rats in the camp. I can imagine the devs voting on ideas as a democracy but, being intentionally outvoted and spited by the ‘new devs’ at the expense and detriment to the games success - sad.

[weary cove]

Once people realize BF6 is literally the equivalent of a GAMEMODE of another game, people will drop off like flies

[willow lance]

OP snipers aren’t a COD feature anyways, it’s a shitty BF1 feature due to sweet spot, no bullet drop, high base damage, high velocity

[weary cove]

like imagine how pathetic that is

[light cypress]

who played the BF6 beta

[willow lance]

We all did

[weary cove]

Imagine not buying cod, but buying ONLY cod kill confirmed

or imagine buying ONLY cod SnD

[light cypress]

Okay

[willow lance]

BF6 plays nothing like COD

[weary cove]

gaming apocalypse is real

[winged marten]

I don't wanna seem pessimistic but I have the same ick with this game that I had with 2042 when I saw the gameplay trailer of 2042. I'm really worried rn

[light cypress]

Yes i agree with you

[weary cove]

70$ to buy a SUBMODE of call of duty

[winged marten]

Like the exact same it's a repeat of 2042

[weary cove]

That’s nuts

[willow lance]

Lil bro probably isn’t even aware ground war is a BF copycat mode

[weary cove]

Uhh…exactly

[winged marten]

Blud joined last month and has a cod pfp no wonder you'd support him

[weary cove]

BF6, is a SHELL of the KNOCKOFF of itself

[versed rock]

No, bf6 is a huge improvement.

[willow lance]

Jill Valentine is in COD?

[winged marten]

We thought so with 2042...

[light cypress]

Okay

[willow lance]

No one did 😂

[winged marten]

Bf6 is def better than 2042 but I still feel like it won't live up to expectations, it'll be a solid game but not thaat great

[weary cove]

It’ll be mid

[willow lance]

Anyone with 2 brain cells knew 2042 was a dumpster fire when they opened 2042 beta 🤣

[weary cove]

Not great, not bad

[eager sedge]

Yea it does seem to be the case. The guy leading the new game also worked on COD in the past. Few other top hires they poached for BF6 were people who worked on COD titles in the past. It is very clear the direction that EA wants for BF6, many people dont see it though

[willow lance]

BF6 is easily fixable

[winged marten]

Oh buddy you're telling me all the battlefield was back nonsense was non existent when the gameplay trailer or beta launched

We were told the beta was an old build and that soothed the community

[weary cove]

I sure hope we get LEGACY features like a scoreboard!

[willow lance]

You fell for it then

[versed rock]

Oh yeah, the battlefield that should not be name - seriously. But, have faith everyone it isn’t easy trying to make a game during an apocalypse. BF6 is a testament to that give the Devs some slack.

[weary cove]

LEGACY FEATURES!!!!!

[winged marten]

You're just proving my point 🤡

The community was cheated with 2042 and it's happening again with bf6, bf6 is definitely gonna be better than 2042 but I highly doubt it'll match BF3 BF4 or even BF1

It'll be onpar with BFV

[weary cove]

It won’t even come close to 3 4 or 1.

[willow lance]

https://youtu.be/C6feqA2YkGU

[weary cove]

They don’t even belong in the same sentence

[willow lance]

2042 beta btw

[eager sedge]

Bf6 live service will be a big flop

[weary cove]

Ofc

[winged marten]

Did I say that 2042 is gonna be better than bf6 🤡

Yes or no

[weary cove]

The ONLY way they can save BF6 is by doing a Fortnite-family guys-marvel-curious George crossover event

[willow lance]

You said BF6 will be like 2042 when betas of those games are night and day different. 2042 was DOA the moment beta launched.

DBA even

[winged marten]

Bf6 will be like bf2042 in that it won't live up to expectations

[weary cove]

true

[winged marten]

2042 still had a shit load of hype even after the beta

Hell a lot of people loved the beta

Even if it was buggy

[versed rock]

I don’t have much expectations, it’s bigger then battlefield guys it’s the market, times have changed, we getting old, maybe it’s time to let go of my beloved, grow up and stop playing the game all together ‘ITS TIME’

[eager sedge]

How did they go from the epic, immersive scenic map for BFV Firestorm to boring bland slop for BF6 BR

[dark sparrow]

No. I want to argue

[weary cove]

Yeah times have changed devs have retired. All of gaming has changed.

Games aren’t made to be enjoyed

They’re made to make money

People used to argue whether cod is more fun than battlefield

Now everyone knows they’re both brainrot

[foggy vessel]

for those who are waiting for bf6 i can recommend the finals its a different theme but its such a great and fair shooter

[winged marten]

Battlefield 6 is basically cod ground war without goofy skins

[weary cove]

the days of fun are gone. Now all that’s left is nostalgia baiting and devs who edge the player base hoping that one day…the devs will listen again

[winged marten]

The goofy skins got cod fans angry which is why they switched over to bf looking for the same experience and they're happy

I'm willing to bet a lot of people here joined in the last month and are cod switchovers

[weary cove]

They don’t know that the devs don’t care. The devs are just there for their next paycheck, and their faces aren’t associated with the game.

[foggy vessel]

From 1 - 10 how much of a ragebaiter are you He: yes

[winged marten]

Cry about it 🤡

[eager sedge]

There are still fun games out there that are community oriented. Arma Reforger is one I suggest trying, lots of fun to be had. The good days of the Battlefield franchise not coming back sadly

[winged marten]

LMFAO @foggy vessel BLADE YOU'RE ONE OF THEM TOO 💀

Why am I surprised

[weary cove]

And to be honest if I was a dev I’d be doing the same thing 😂 bros went to some lame ah university to pay an arm and a leg to go into software engineering and then they have to compete with 100 dudes from China ALONE for the same exact job

Ofc devs just care about appeasing their boss, who cares about appeasing the shareholders.

That’s the situation we are in. Lack of care=lack of passion=lack of fun

[foggy vessel]

you can play the finals prior bf devs worked on that game

[weary cove]

the devs at DICE literally did an IRL battle royale with 100 other dudes just to work there

[versed rock]

We need Lars guvstavson, Linus Joesphson and Erik sjvold to come back “give us one last chance, one last chance to remaster Battlefield 2 + Battlefield modern combat 2 combined as a remaster “ come on you old dogs I know you still got it. Please come back and save us, the devs and the franchise - it would be your everlasting legacy.

[weary cove]

I have no doubt they’d do absolutely NOTHING except what their boss tells them to do

[drifting hawk]

It even feels like bf3 mechanics

[versed rock]

Yeah, I was thinking about arma reformer, perhaps it’s time for a change then.

[winged marten]

There's no coming back i sorely miss BF2 and the real countries and native language voicelines and big maps and battlefield gameplay but we're never getting that, the last battlefield to have those is BF1

If anything the last battlefield to be dark and gritty with real countries and a total disregard for politics in order to show the horror of war is BF1

[weary cove]

BF1 was both dark, gritty, and majestic at the same time

[quasi breach]

liberation peak

[weary cove]

Meanwhile the goobers at dice can’t even get the gunplay right much less care about the aura of the game

[winged marten]

Bf6 did get the losing end of round soundtrack sick though

[foggy vessel]

flashlight simulator

[winged marten]

It sounds badass as hell

[weary cove]

Yeah the round end track does spike some intensity

[quasi breach]

yeah its like the mountain is celebrating christmas

[versed rock]

The thing is, their is, the new DICE DEVS really should remaster battlefield 2 and combine it with Battlefield 2 modern combat. Imagine a remaster so, the game is set in 2005 (when it was developed) but they add a environmental effect as if 20 years have past in real time (epic) the blue prints are their half the work is done, the DEVS have the guidance but, are they granted the Will by EA - now that’s another conversation.

[winged marten]

This track literally screams military and battlefield hot take but I would've actually liked this as the battlefield main theme, it sounds dark and gritty
https://youtu.be/Kj_SboQoAso?si=7CfAa8F3GG1I8pIe

[eager sedge]

The game is worth every penny. When you find a server you like, you can spend the whole day on it and not get bored. So many ways to play, and with proximity/platoon chat it makes the game quite social, and moments you have in the game a lot more fun/memorable.

[weary cove]

The thing that worries me about Bf6 is the BR

[winged marten]

Just make the main part longer and remove the opening pitch down effect and we'll have an amazing military theme

[weary cove]

I’m bracing for it cus I want the game to survive

But we all know DICE has 0 clue how to make a good BR

and DICE has been awfully quiet

[winged marten]

Best battlefield loading screen music btw
https://youtu.be/CSvL6vlBlTE?si=99heyxld86V5yDU0

[weary cove]

I know for a fact they’re holding a pile of shi in their back pocket they’re gonna “reveal” later on

[bronze grail]

Stinky

[weary cove]

I’m like Mr krabs

[foggy vessel]

i think bf 2042 was a experiment and they will use the best assets from that game

[weary cove]

I can smell it, that smelly smell. That smells smelly.

[bronze grail]

BF 2042 portal maps for example

[foggy vessel]

thats why they added the a 10 warthog

[bronze grail]

They for sure are gonna return for portal

[weary cove]

I hope they scrap BR before they ever even talk about it

Bury it

[quasi breach]

I would have no problem sitting in loading screen with this

[winged marten]

They NEED the warzone player base

[bronze grail]

But ea wants 100 million players

[foggy vessel]

somebody complained he is not in bf6 2 weeks later pah

[urban karma]

Why, it will be goated

[bronze grail]

Think of Andrew Wilson! He won't be able to buy his fifth yacht!!!!

[winged marten]

I hear it playing through my head everytime before a fight

[calm gust]

No way, best loading music for any map https://youtu.be/S0aXAm0jqd0?si=VOtj_VKLNQPpKQsM

[quasi breach]

seems like DICE got into your neurons

[weary cove]

That’s why it’s so sad too 😭 on the one hand BF don’t need a br but on the other, FPS is so brainrotted every kid needs a BR to satisfy their brainrot

[weary cove]

😭

[winged marten]

https://youtu.be/CSvL6vlBlTE?si=99heyxld86V5yDU0

[winged marten]

This video basically explains it

[quasi breach]

its the same video no?

[weary cove]

Good game with no players…or bad game with many players

[bronze grail]

Why is there no order request in the social wheel? Emotes my friend

They'll be BR exclusive at first, then we'll see soldiers doing the nae nae in the regular game

[silver holly]

So I’m pretty new to the BF portal world. In 2042 all I did was search for specific criteria for custom lobbies to join but I have no clue to portal when it comes to creating stuff.

In 2042, could you only create servers/modes from within the game or can you do it from say a laptop? I’m assuming BF6 will work similar. Just not sure if I actually have to be in the game to do it or if I can do that stuff from basically anywhere

[quasi breach]

yeah it is. seems like your didn't copy the correct link

[bronze grail]

[versed rock]

It’s not the game mode, nor battlefield 6, it’s the market you need to worry about. Times have changed, patience is slim, profits are to be made.

[foggy vessel]

disagree at one point br isnt brainrot itself its propably the most enduring and patient fps mode as you dont fight constantly look at pubg for example

[weary cove]

💀

[quasi breach]

I think you had to go to the website to create your server

[bronze grail]

Dab emotes for end of round? Here you go! Whales will buy anything!

[weary cove]

I’ll be flying my pink animated helicopter with Sabrina Carpenter as my copilot

[bronze grail]

Nicki Minaj in combat fatigues!

[weary cove]

It’s over 😭

[versed rock]

Yeah I agree, BF1 is the best made battlefield for sure, but it’s also the last game that me and my dad enjoyed together before he passed away. So, I try not to play that one to much.

[bronze grail]

Can't wait for The Simpsons pack!!!!

[urban karma]

Bf heroes better

[silver holly]

Okay gotcha. So I can do it from my laptop and I don’t need to be at my actual gaming PC lol.

I want to sink some serious time into learning it and create some stuff and I wanted it to be convenient location wise

[weary cove]

Homer Simpson will be reviving me and Morty Smith will resupply me

[winged marten]

Gimme some more glasses elton

[quasi breach]

yeah I think so. you should be able to if you have signed in with the EA account you play BF6 on

[bronze grail]

Morty? Rick and Morty? H*ll yeah, chungus Rick 100!!!

[silver holly]

Dope. Appreciate it

[quasi breach]

speaking of BF1, I was going through all the BF titles a few days and saw that the numbering isn't in the order they were released. do we know why's that?

[weary cove]

Then I’ll get sniped by Frieza

[bronze grail]

Because it was a stylistic choice

Bf1 - WW1

[weary cove]

Bf6=ww6

[bronze grail]

Bf1942 - it is set in 1942

[quasi breach]

BF1 was released after BF4 right?

[bronze grail]

Yes

[weary cove]

numbers are hard for Dice devs

[bronze grail]

Bf2 3 and 4 were their own little trilogy

In regards to setting

[versed rock]

His legacy was for me to carry on the platoon ‘BRIT-PAC’ but, it seems like my dads legacy will die with the new era of the franchise to make way for a new beginning < that’s deep, that’s why I fight, that’s why I care, that’s why I want the game to succeed.

My last plea please bring back platoon support, introduce it to BF6 <can I get a few upvotes people.

[weary cove]

Nah no clans

[quasi breach]

yeah before I saw the dates, when I saw people talking about playing BF1 and how its so good. I used to think why are you playing such an old game, it shouldn't be that good

[weary cove]

You can’t be competitive in BF6

[bronze grail]

You can, just be a sweat

[winged marten]

It follows like this:-
BF1
BF1942/BFV/BF1943
BF VIETNAM
BFBC
BFBC2
BF2
BF2MC
BF3
BF4
BF6
BF2042
BF2142

[bronze grail]

Timeline, yes

[weary cove]

that’s a legacy feature of the patriarchical system of gaming. We’re more civilized than that. Those are legacy features.

[quasi breach]

so this is the campaign sorted by time

[bronze grail]

You can be, just be a sweat and rage at medic not rezzing you in 0.5 sec

[quasi breach]

what is BF6 setting?

[weary cove]

In fact DICE may add a sweat detector system which uses the DualShock controller temperature monitor to detect if you’re a tryhard or if you play claw

[bronze grail]

Bf6 is bf2042 prequal

The world is starting to fall apart

[quasi breach]

so the time we living in right now

[winged marten]

2027, after BF4 which is 2020 and before 2042 which is duh 2042

[bronze grail]

That is something, rite?

[weary cove]

If you are a sweat, your bloom goes up, your scoreboard gets removed, and you get a reminder everytime you login that “EA is making a safe place for all people”

[bronze grail]

A reminder that the majority of 2042 specialists are gen alpha

[weary cove]

KBM will soon be banned on BF6

Cus KBm players have their whole arm to aim

Controller players have tiny thumbs

[quasi breach]

what is the story of BF4? 2020 was really boring

[weary cove]

It’s not fair

[bronze grail]

A guy wanted to nuke New York or some shit

[willow lance]

Mackay and Angel are zoomers

[bronze grail]

That's why I said "majority", not "all of them"

[winged marten]

USA angry at china and Russia, they start fighting, China is boom boom gone, russia and usa are screwed economically

[bronze grail]

[silver holly]

Per Ace actually KBM players have nearly double the recoil of controller players per his testing video 😭😭

[quasi breach]

they boomed china

[bronze grail]

China has nukes, I wonder how that turned out for the USA

[urban karma]

That should not be a thing, recoil should be the same for both inputs

They get aim assists on top of lower recoil

[versed rock]

Yeah so, BF2 was the last. Battlefield on PS2 then it moved to BFBC1 which was a spin-off then BFBC2 also a spin off both was on PS3 then they picked up after BF2 and made BF3 on PS3 then battlefield 4 on PS4 then instead of making battlefield 5 they made battlefield 1 ‘due to it being in world war one’ <which was a spin-off kinda. Then they continued from BF4 and made BF5 (which where both on PS4 then they made 2042 and now BF6 both PS5 although the latter is a ‘true PS5 game’ hope that gave you some Clarity,

<<notice how the BF games that go up in numerical order tend to be the good ones>>> BF1,BF2,3,4,5,6 ect.

[bronze grail]

Aim assist must go

[quasi breach]

china was playing dead. once US and Russia went into economic problems, China wake up and boomed

[bronze grail]

The times have changed

[willow lance]

Actually 2042 specialists are equally distributed between zoomers, alpha and millenials

[bronze grail]

It's not the 2000s anymore

[bronze grail]

Stop correcting me

[craggy tapir]

Crossplay must go

The great crossplay test has failed

[willow lance]

No

[foggy vessel]

well nothing comes from nothing

[urban karma]

That is what I'm saying too, these controller players could be keeping up with kbm without aa

[bronze grail]

[bronze grail]

Hell, you can hook up mouse and keyboard to a console these days

[foggy vessel]

with massive lag input and much less fps

[quasi breach]

yeah I feel like the ones with 1,2,3,4,5,6 are their main game while they try to test different unusual mechanics in the rest

[bronze grail]

Just buy PS5 pro bro

[foggy vessel]

still

[bronze grail]

Just use frame generation bro

[foggy vessel]

ass

[craggy tapir]

1942 was the first game tho

[bronze grail]

[foggy vessel]

raw fps is for fps frame generation for exploration games played on 4k

[bronze grail]

Native is KING

I will never use framegen

[quasi breach]

for campaign games it isnt so bad

[foggy vessel]

me sitting on my 360 hertz monitor with 1080 p regretting not choosing 240hertz and 1440p

[willow lance]

My bad, you are right. Most of them are Gen Alpha lol.
Zoomers: Angel, Mackay, Casper, Crawford
Alpha: Paik, Zain, Lis, Blasco, Sundance, Rao, Dozer
Millenials: Boris, Falck, Irish

[urban karma]

You can upscale tho, get better visuals in nvidia

[bronze grail]

If I'd want smudgy shit on my screen, I'd buy an old TFT display

[foggy vessel]

i do but its not that great as 1440p

[bronze grail]

I don't play rts games though

[quasi breach]

only competitive fps?

[foggy vessel]

bf isnt competitive

[urban karma]

Chat should I lock in and grind 15kd in 2042?

[foggy vessel]

its semi competitive

[versed rock]

Yeah, I am realising this with you as we speak. That’s why we should be quite hopeful with BF6.

[foggy vessel]

i play every genre

a true gamer must experience all

[bronze grail]

Fps games, racing games and action adventure games

I don't want smudgy shit on my screen

No, motion blur is not that

[foggy vessel]

me getting a logitech g pro superlight so i am better at chess

[bronze grail]

I hate light mice

Give me a hefty one

[foggy vessel]

thats like me playing table tennis with my phone

[bronze grail]

I just like when my electronics has a bit of weight to it. If it's ultra light, it feels like cheap Chinese crap to me

[vague thunder]

Different people different strokes? I play fps games at 1080p 360hz and story games at 4k 130hz.

[foggy vessel]

thats interesting and i wasnt joking besides tournaments i really play with my phone swinging it

[bronze grail]

Wish

I could do that

My phone is too small

[foggy vessel]

how i dont have a big one

[tall zinc]

refresh rates for monitors are misleading anyways, due to gray to gray response times an oled with a 1:1 refresh rate of an LCD is actually 2x better due to better clarity with motion

[vague thunder]

But, backlight strobing

[foggy vessel]

you say i need to sell my alienware monitor and buy an old if thats better i will do that

and panel burn in

[tall zinc]

you want it associated with shooters pretty much

panel burn in is covered by warranty, just choose a reputable manufacturer

[foggy vessel]

i will do that

marvel rivals trailer has come out btw

[tall zinc]

BFI for those sensitive to it is a real issue that doesn't exist on oled yeah I'll give you that

albeit even with BFI it's still worse

[vague thunder]

No I’m talking about dyac

[tall zinc]

dyac 1 is still worse than oled, dyac 2 is only better and that's because it's being used at a 600hz refresh rate, TN is such a garbage panel from the getgo that it doesn't matter

[vague thunder]

I disagree for competitive. I play at lower than 1080p and purposely eliminate dark areas that OLEDs would have as completely unlit. Not arguing OLED is inferior, I have both!

[tall zinc]

if you play at below 1080p then you're a diff type of market audience

[foggy vessel]

doesnt the visibility at long range suffer from it

[vapid yarrow]

I play Team Fortress 2 competitive

Does it count?

[eternal nexus]

Battle Royale is going to save battlefield

It will also save Halo

[vapid yarrow]

Battle Royale enjoyer LOLs

[valid drift]

You don't need to swap panels for something that could be adjusted by game/os/monitor settings

[eternal nexus]

Arena pvp’rs LoL

[vapid yarrow]

I cant enjoy battle royale as Tank player

[eternal nexus]

There’s tanks in BR homeboy

[vapid yarrow]

Area going small, kinda hard to drive around with my tank

[eternal nexus]

There was tanks in firestorm br and it was confirmed to be in the new br

[eternal nexus]

Your multiplayer maps are 3 lane boxes

Only way to play tank is br

[willow lance]

Home…

[grave river]

we back

[vapid yarrow]

How many days before release?

[eternal nexus]

43

[vapid yarrow]

Damn that's like 1032 hours

[willow lance]

Someone should make a 1032 hours long XP farm server

[vapid yarrow]

Did you see the latest post? There's a volcano.. maybe the battle royale is volcanic eruption

Or something like tsunami. Or floor is lava type stuff

[foggy vessel]

w tag

[rose inlet]

I disagree

[spare socket]

Halo would have saved itself if halo infinite's multiplayer released the way it is now day 1

Halo infinite's forge is literally an unlimited map and game mode machine

It just released 3 years too late

[spiral lotus]

Not quite

[spare socket]

I would say so.
The forge alone would break the internet imo

It's literally an unlimited source of fun and content

[spiral lotus]

Halo infinite is a good game. People are cry babies and want the game to feel like it did 20 years ago.

[spare socket]

halo infinite is now a good game. The launch was horrible and the post launch couldn't happen because of the technical debt behind the game.

[spiral lotus]

Same thing happened to halo reach, halo 2, halo 4

[spare socket]

h2 lasted quite a while so did reach lol. They're only now not active cuz its been years later

[spiral lotus]

That's not what I mean

[spare socket]

Infinite launched way worse than all of those

[spiral lotus]

. People hate change even though the change makes the game 385x better

[spare socket]

not even from a feature or content standpoint. The game was functionally not ready.

[spare socket]

Infinite's launch state wasn't hated for change really tbh (except maybe the campaign)

[spiral lotus]

It was lol

[spare socket]

a lot of people were praising it saying "halo is back" and that the feel of the game felt like a good mesh of new and old stuff.

There was a loud minority

Don't listen to the loud minority

ever

[spiral lotus]

Halo 2 had people upset over playable elites. Halo reach had people mad about armour abilities and halo 4 had people who hated sprinting

[spare socket]

You can choose to do that. But if we did that then battlefield 3 would be hated to this day for being "tOo mUcH liKe CoD"

Halo 4 and 5 I would argue took directional changes that uhhh

weren't great for the formula for various reasons.

5 should have been its own thing. It was a pretty great sci fi shooter

[spiral lotus]

Halo 5s multiplayer is one of the best.

[spare socket]

I agree. It's one of the best multiplayer sci fi mobility shooters on the market

I also think it should have been its own ip

[spiral lotus]

Not quite

[spare socket]

Tbh tho the main reason h5 was hated was req packs and the campaign

[spiral lotus]

It introduced blue team to people

[spare socket]

If those were like. Not dog water. I think the title would overall be praised

[spiral lotus]

Master Chiefs squad that's been around since halo ce

First being shown in the fall of reach

[spare socket]

h5's campaign's level design and story were just

way worse compared to prior titles

[spiral lotus]

But the people complained hard leading to people avoiding it

[urban karma]

BF6 players aren’t ready for me, the 2042 sniper boot camp forged me into a demon

[spare socket]

because the campaign and req packs were pretty bad tbh. I will agree that h5's multiplayer was goated but different.

[spiral lotus]

Same thing with the bf6 beta you had some stink asses who are trash at video games complaining. And people see it all and accept that as fact

[spare socket]

I think you conflate the loud minority when you shouldn't. And mistake valid critcism for noise at times but.

🤷‍♂️ idk maybe just me

[spiral lotus]

That's not how it works

[spare socket]

To say bf6 after the changes to literal gameplay features the devs outright said were movement glitches

and say the current crowd of certain complaints are valid when battlefield 3 had the same crowd

[spiral lotus]

A person is going to go "hmmmm 🤔 all these people I will follow what they say" they aren't going to do their own research if all they are seeing at the top of everything is complaining

[spare socket]

By this logic every single game of all time has a crowd of people that will dislike things. Which is fine and fair

What matters is pleasing the majority of people and the people that will stay for a while to support your game/fans.

Don't appease the loud minority. Actually listen to valid criticism.

[spiral lotus]

I disagree

[spare socket]

If we didn't do this battlefield 3 wouldn't even release the way it did

People pre release moaned that the game was "too much like cod" because of its engine, visual, and gameplay changes

and it was at the time the literal best selling game in the franchise

[spiral lotus]

Black ops 4

[spare socket]

also the fact one of the two beta maps was metro

[spare socket]

good mechanics. bad map design

[spare socket]

The latter especially did not mesh well with the former. There were a few good maps tho

And trust me bad maps can in fact kill a game

mechanics only go so far. How those mechanics interact with your map flow alters a lot

looks at halo infinite maps at launch and how all of them were designed for competitive play rather than promoting unique gameplay experiences except the samey BTB maps

Black ops 4 had an issue where it was very strict with its 3 lane map design. Not to say 3 lane maps are a bad thing per se. Funnily enough the team for MW2019 heard the complaints in black ops 4 and went in the extreme opposite direction and that was also dog water in the map design department. @spiral lotus

3 lane maps are good when there's enough dynamics, sub lanes, verticality, and unique map elements that distinguish them. Not when they play wayyy too similarly and are far too strict with their lane design to promote unique gameplay moments and contestible positions.

[spare socket]

COD ww2 was arguably the most egrigious example of this map design. BO4 just continued it

[spare socket]

the biggest thing about bad maps is to the average gamer they are the invisible reason as to why they have issues with a game quite often. This leads them to misplace their issues with the game upon the mechanics a lot. They won't realize why they hate a game so badly, but what is causing it is a clash of mechanics and map flow to an egrigious degree. @spiral lotus

[eternal nexus]

You’re right, it’s probably to late to save the game

[sinful pecan]

Hi!

[spare socket]

even 2042 had a lot of fundamental poor design, lack of content (22 weapons at launch), extremely buggy, and atop all that, there is so much behind the scenes wrong with the game that I could go on for ages about it.

But the launch and some of the post launch maps were genuinely horrible that it made those sentiments even worse.

[eternal nexus]

Battle field hardline had the best mp maps of any battlefield. BF6 reminds me of hardline

[spare socket]

hardline's problem was its premise was this in between mesh of payday and battlefield

I wish it committed more to the former

[eternal nexus]

This is what made it great

[spare socket]

I think it would have been much better if it opted to be a better payday game and commit to that with the sandbox and destruction of battlefield.

[eternal nexus]

That’s what it did so well

[spare socket]

🤷‍♂️ eh I beg to differ. A lot of people went back to playing bf4 when its dlc was finishing up cuz a lot of the dlc maps were bangers. And payday 2 released not long ago that that crowd still maintained and a lot of its enjoyers went back to that.

[spare socket]

Funnily enough payday 2 had a notable uptick a few months after hardline. If anything it brough people into the genre and payday 2 got even more popular for it.

For being the game that handles the heist genre better.

[eternal nexus]

Hardline retained all its players, stats don’t lie

[spare socket]

[slate crystal]

I love this server, yall have these as stickers

[spare socket]

stats don't lie. Unfortunately people do.

[eternal nexus]

I’m glad we can agree that hardline was game of the year

[slate crystal]

I never played it but I like the funny voice lines with the donuts and Neebs gaming references

[eternal nexus]

They had the bang bros couch as a vehicle

[slate crystal]

The All American Dream is what it is called right?

[eternal nexus]

Yes

[slate crystal]

All I can hear while seeing someone drive that is Freebird

[spiral lotus]

It was a old 70s couch

[eternal nexus]

With a lot of history

[slate crystal]

I need that gif of the guy from BF3 going “I’m listening”

[eternal nexus]

With his ear pressed against the wall

[slate crystal]

Good morning Sergeant Blackburn

[eternal nexus]

I served in Guam

[slate crystal]

I served in retail

[eternal nexus]

I was sent to Guam as a carpenter for the base, I left as a Navy Seal

[errant fiber]

🦭

[slate crystal]

How do you go to Guam as a carpenter then leave as a navy seal???

Sounds like some level 100 Colonel type shit right there

[errant fiber]

Don't they do a part of the seal training on Guam?

[eternal nexus]

Some unions have contracts with military bases that pay 2-300k a year. But when the bullets started wizzing, they needed someone to step up. I was the hero.

[slate crystal]

That’s

[errant fiber]

Oh wait, I am thinking of San Diego, not Guam.

[slate crystal]

Extremely fair

Bf6 couldn’t come any sooner bro

You must be the reason it’s in there

[wide elbow]

when Ohio map?

[slate crystal]

Oh shit nice

[eternal nexus]

It’s what everyone called us

[slate crystal]

So you are the reason it’s there

[eternal nexus]

That’s right

That’s some history

[slate crystal]

I smell American freedom

[olive basalt]

an inconspicuous black leather couch in a white-walled room in the base, I assume

[slate crystal]

Why’d the message get deleted?

[eternal nexus]

That’s what it smelled like

[eternal nexus]

Probably mods

[slate crystal]

I made an S Bucket joke

Thought that’d be acceptable here since this is battlefield

[eternal nexus]

They are probably going to ban me for 365 days now

It’s no way to treat a veteran!

[shrewd abyss]

ANYWAY

do we have hopes for the battlepasses to be permanent?

and hopes for being able to get premium currency just by playing?

[errant fiber]

No, no, and no.

[shrewd abyss]

But why? Because its EA?

[errant fiber]

No, because it's a profit-seeking corporation.

[shrewd abyss]

That doesnt mean they wont be profiting out of non fomo practices

[errant fiber]

Oh, absolutely they'll make the cash, they'll just make even more cash-money keeping the current formula.

[shrewd abyss]

because "Line must go up" for investors

while the bottom line (developers) are getting the shaft

[errant fiber]

Just because they make money doesn't mean they make as much money, or that they would deliberately sit out on an additional $5.

[tall zinc]

nobody knows

they said they will announce their live service plans closer to release

[crimson gate]

It having purchasable tier skips makes me think probably not. But there’s hope

[tall zinc]

hopefully yes though

[shrewd abyss]

its what im waiting for to get the preorder

[shrewd abyss]

follow HD2 system, allow us to get everything just by playing, pay it to get it faster

everyone gets happy

[tall zinc]

that will absolutely not happen

[shrewd abyss]

a man can dream

[tall zinc]

there is no way they will allow premium currency to be able to be attained through gameplay like Helldivers

[shrewd abyss]

the minimum is having all passes permanent

[shrewd abyss]

get a small amount

you need 1k, but you get like 10 per win, 5 per loss

[tall zinc]

that's a lot wdym lol

[crimson gate]

The best I can see them doing is earning currency back from the battlepass

[craggy tapir]

It’d likely be like 1 per win and 0 per loss lol

[shrewd abyss]

minimum 100 wins or 200 losses, if you want to speed it uo you can pay for it

[tall zinc]

yeahh absolutely never happening

[shrewd abyss]

Because EA

but yeah, minimum permanent passes

or, hear me out, a single, increasing battlepass

taht gets more rewards as they add more stuff

[balmy yew]

I wonder if LMG’s are going to worth using. Battlefield 5 they were utterly a waste.

Shotguns were better for support.

[craggy tapir]

I enjoyed using them in the beta. The second one was pretty good with the acog

[void crow]

During beta, i found lmgs hard to use because of their aim delay. Needed to focus on quickdraw accessories to make it quite worth to use

[shrewd abyss]

they need to bring suppression for that

suppression needs to be heavily tuned so it screws up snipers and campers

also please remove sling from assault or make the sling weapon limited

[shrewd abyss]

and the lack of suppression also made it quite a bad idea to use in any kind of situation

[tall zinc]

they are good in 6

[shrewd abyss]

hard to move, slow to aim, slower firerate, less accuracy than AR's...

[tall zinc]

well good by they perform well for what they're balanced for

[shrewd abyss]

yes, but

[naive crystal]

Without suppression it made any bipod/heavy/ranged lmg kinda useless. You'd just get headshot while posted up somewhere.

The higher headshot multiplier and a low recoil build was pretty effective though

[shrewd abyss]

if they want to make LMG's viable as a moving option, they need to make the gun have some form of trade off

it is quite bad, but adding suppression and/or separating roles from support to create a dedicated one Medic would helpa lot

because now you have way too much pressure in one role

holding places, suppress, heal and resupply, reviving

adding one more role and moving the healing portion of the role to Medic would solve it

[naive crystal]

Give assault either the med pack or the spawn beacon?

[shrewd abyss]

no, sapwn beacon imo should stay on recon or dont allow assault to carry spawn beacon and ladder for example

assault with med pack would be bad idea, since it would be self sufficient

[naive crystal]

So long as a recon can't infinitely spawn on their own beacon sure. 1 respawn, then forced to normal flag would balance it

[shrewd abyss]

and they need to reduce the time to heal naturally and force more the medic interaction

[shrewd abyss]

limited respawns would help yes, and needs to restock

[urban karma]

can you explain to me why recon "needs" the spawn beacon, or rather assault shouldn't have it?

[nimble abyss]

Nobody should have it. Just me, only I get the spawn beacon

[frosty tulip]

Assaults main goal is to take points, getting him a way to instantly spawn anywhere is broken for his goal

Recons main goal is to find players and snipe campers, which is why he needs to spawn in the middle of nowhere to get the sneak factor

People used Recons like assaults in BF2042 sadly because they could use whatever they wanted for loadouts

[urban karma]

I would respond to your take however I'm in a 150kd game, need to lock in fr

[void crow]

such as using sniper with supports with ammo box in 2042 for infinite bullets...

[craggy tapir]

Assault is getting the spawn beacon

It is being limited though

So the assault player can only spawn on it once before having to be re-placed and there’s a limited number of times your teammates can spawn on it

[void crow]

Same as it was for the recon in the beta tho

[urban karma]

See, I don’t think you get it, when you’re counter sniping, you don’t need to be sneaky, you just need to be better than the enemy sniper. And right now, sniping is an endless cycle anyway, since every recon basically has a spawn point right next to them

[frosty tulip]

Thats what happens if you treat this game like a COD game for sure.

[urban karma]

I don’t see how anything I said was treating the game like COD. Counter sniping is literally just about being better than the other sniper, not running around like you're in a Spy Kids movie

[urban karma]

That combo’s useless, running anything but recon with a sniper is straight up trolling your team at this point.

[void crow]

You can easily get spotting medals, distance records and 30/0 to 40/0 kdr so It does the sniper job.... with unlimited ammo

[urban karma]

So you’re telling me you’re a sniper main rocking a 6+ KD in the beta? Or are you just tossing out delusional takes with nothing to back them up? Cause I don’t see what your 30–40 kills even bring to the team if half of them just get revived anyway (Lack of recon passive)

[void crow]

Like I said earlier it's on 2042. and headshot block the revive

I find Bf6 too closed to enjoy sniping (I like trying to get the farest kill, my record is 1500 for now and I need to find a bigger map to beat it

[urban karma]

Something tells me you have kpm of like 0.05 with a sniper on 2042 😭

[craggy tapir]

Only on recon tho?

[urban karma]

Yes

[craggy tapir]

Iirc recon has the benefits of:

• holding their breath
• auto spotting
• no revive headshots
• UAV

[void crow]

Now you mention it ahah

[crude sail]

Any big changes since the beta that’ve been announced at all?

[green pawn]

yes the big change is Battle royale is coming sooner than ever as the map got leaked, majority of the bf community wants the BR mode to be the main focus and that's a W in my case tbh

[clever imp]

Who's the majority 😭

[celest belfry]

No we don’t 😭

[versed rock]

Although, killing and taking shots with a sniper is satisfying. It is detestable, I honestly can’t stand being killed by one even better, I kill that sniper with a semi auto king scopes rifle/dmr.

[clever imp]

Nah bro they gotta focus in be bro it's gonna be gas bro

[crude sail]

Naaaa no one wants that BR bro

[vernal radish]

Speak for yourself. I understand that BR has a place and is popular but it’s not Battlefield. I hope it does well so the game succeeds

[green pawn]

We ?? who's we

[clever imp]

If it got battle royale then it's gonna be goatedfield 6 bro trust me bro 🥀

[celest belfry]

Saying the majority of BF players want BR☠️☠️

Go play warzone lil bro

[clever imp]

Honestly battlefield 6 go nothing on vangoated 🔥

[green pawn]

Why do you think dice is releasing a BR ?? out of nothing ? of course its because the bf community wants it

[vernal radish]

Warzone would be a blast if executed properly. But it’s a shit show full of hacks

[celest belfry]

No, it’s what the cod players want, are you slow?

[vernal radish]

Smart business

[crude sail]

Warzones fix is get rid of nikki manaj and get an anty cheat

[green pawn]

you're just garbage at the game, maybe buy kovaak or just play aimlabs first also work on your movement, the game is fine and mostly without cheaters

[crude sail]

Besides that I couldn’t care what BF release with a BR or not because BF6 was so beautiful I’ll play that for years it’s fine

[versed rock]

BR simply their to farm ‘revenue’ and attract players. Don’t worry, my fellow battle brothers. DICE has a plan I’m sure, i hope. Although, it’s free to play i err on the side that more resources could be used to create the next GOAT game mode

[celest belfry]

You dont upgrade a product that already exists to please the current customers, you do it to attract the new ones ☠️

[clever imp]

Nah bro aimlabs is for rookies bro you wanna test yourself you need to try anime labs simulator on steam it's 10 bucks 🔥 🗣️

[versed rock]

Y’all all complaining about it I challenge ye - what kind of game mode would be the next signature mode since conquest and breakthrough.

[green pawn]

'' cod '' players, is there a HQ fanbase for the cod players that i didn't notice ? EA is finally releasing a good bf 6 with slow movement because they listened to their community, also we wanted BR mode so they are doing it too

[versed rock]

We have not had a ‘GREAT’ BF game mode since, breakthrough to be honest.

[clever imp]

I wanted zombies 🥀

[green pawn]

yeah i'll prefer kovaak thanks, you can continue playing genshin impact

[celest belfry]

What BF players wanted a BR lol. Is BF6 your first BF?

[versed rock]

OMG don’t say that 😱

[clever imp]

First bf is wild 🙏

[urban karma]

BF 6 BR will go crazy!!

[versed rock]

None

[celest belfry]

And saying “slow” movements is crazy, it’s literally just BFV movement ☠️

This guy started playing BF yesterday

[versed rock]

Look at firestorm it was a disaster

[urban karma]

The movement is slow, you can't say it's fast

[clever imp]

Bro played boyfriend 6 instead of battlefield 6 🥀

[green pawn]

timthetatman uploaded a video talking about bf 6 needs a battle royale, he is an og battlefield player so he speaks for the community, are you gonna deny that too ? cope more buddy

[green pawn]

it wasn't free to play

[urban karma]

Awright you lost me here buddy, and I was going to back you up, you can't just say a streamer is talking for the community

[clever imp]

Y'all swallowed the bait hard bro wtf 😭 🥀

[celest belfry]

He is a warzone player. And always a cod player.

He speaks as a content creator for HIS gain, as his content IS warzone, so ofc he wants the next product to be able to please his viewers who view him for BR like warzone.

HE IS NOT AN OG.

Please never state anything about BF again

[green pawn]

im looking at facts not speaking about what i think, the video comments were agreeing with him

[versed rock]

Nah, he’s a agent of DICE 🎲 how can he suggest such a thing creaming their *** so, he gets invited to play tests - you got to know influencers are utilised, besides he’s only speaks for himself he’s ‘one person’

[celest belfry]

Timthetatman is a disaster and hated by most BF players with a brain, he calls BR “new idea” in gaming☠️😭

[urban karma]

Oh wow, a streamer’s audience agreeing with his takes, shocking stuff, never seen that one before!

[versed rock]

I agree strategically, of course battlefield needs a BR so, they can make money. Attract more players

[celest belfry]

I am sorry @green pawn but you fell into the grasp of the streamer selling your his entertainment, please

He is NOT qualified at all to talk about BF and what it needs

[green pawn]

lol you speaking like battlefield is a fucking DC multiverse world lol, its just an fps with classes in a big battlefield, ive played them all since i was a kid im an og and i wouldn't call myself one but this is 2025, the community spoke up for the battle royale and they are getting it, cod fans wasn't involved

[celest belfry]

My guy…. It’s literally the reason they are getting a BR…. To attract cod players🤦

[celest belfry]

You’re an “OG” and call Timthetatman a “BF OG” is like saying StoneMountain is a COD OG

[balmy yew]

I remember in the beta when a guy complained about shotguns and everyone dog piled on him in chat saying “Imagine thinking war is fair.”

[celest belfry]

They literally banned the trench gun in real life cause it was OP

[dark sparrow]

I don’t give a flying rat’s ass about the BR. I probably won’t play it. I think people are just potentially concerned that the BR will get most of the attention from the devs and the regular game will take a back seat like Warzone did

[craggy tapir]

It’s kinda funny that Tim used both the “BR is a new concept” defense and “I’ve been playing BR for as long as I’ve been gaming” defense in the same video

[versed rock]

Caved in, great concessions being made I see. Here’s one for the anti BR camp. “If Battle-royal attracts 10% more ‘average daily players’ and 15% more sales because of it - how can it be detriment to the game as a whole…

[green pawn]

i mean its a game, it needs to be fair

[celest belfry]

BR is in every game now a days since PUBG and Arma

[craggy tapir]

It could drag money from the actual game. I doubt the head devs of Dice would let that happen though. Especially Sirland

[celest belfry]

But one thing is clear, I will not take criticism of a COD streamers who hates on Battlefield causes it’s not COD like enough

[odd marsh]

h

[green pawn]

there is something called evolution if you don't know, things need to change for the better

a little change won't hurt the game

[craggy tapir]

“What’s the big thing you fight for? What’s the point of playing the game if I can’t get a nuke for getting a ton of kills?”

It’s almost like they don’t realize that you should want to win the game instead of wanting a personal reward

[dark sparrow]

Not the alligator tho. It’s a fundamentally unchanged killing machine

[celest belfry]

No, as what you wish to change will ruin the identity of an established franchise.

Bad take

[versed rock]

🤔 but the game is always being adapted, improved, DLC’s patches and fixes. Theirs still room for the next GOAT battlefield game mode. Let DICE gather the sheep, make more money and improve the ‘core game’ surely, this is the overall strategy. Because, if people ain’t buying, we won’t see investment.

[celest belfry]

It will end up indistinguishable from each other

Just like CODs attempt at being battlefield with their ground war modes, which failed badly too

[versed rock]

I have bashed my head on the wall a few times before I started to realise this ^^

[craggy tapir]

A little change = balance changes, adding new features that compliment the game, etc

Big changes that hurt the game = adding features that don’t fit the game at all, chasing another game’s image, removing features that make the series unique, etc

[crimson gate]

Isn't the BR being made by a different studio

[celest belfry]

Please add slide cancel and omnimovement and Nicki Minaj

[craggy tapir]

It isn’t the main dice team, yeah. It all draws from the same pile of EA money though

[versed rock]

Anyways gents relax BF2,3,4,5,6 have all been decent to good games. Haven’t you lot noticed it’s only the spin-offs that struggle. More or less, when theirs a instalment to the core game it does well - someone here tell me it doesn’t BF 2,3,4,5, <was all good to very good.

[merry heron]

Nah leave that in Cod. Battlefield is completely different

[urban karma]

You forgot 2042

[celest belfry]

Read further up for context

[versed rock]

That’s not an instalment to the ‘core game’

[craggy tapir]

2042 is a decent game, but it’s the worst BF game ever made

[urban karma]

Ofc it is, true gem too

[fathom summit]

They want the game closer to COD becuase COD gets them the views

[celest belfry]

True

[versed rock]

I’m talking about battlefield 2,3,4,5,6 < all are good, worry over, the core game is back, no one worry okay, compare day.

[celest belfry]

Ofc, it’s the income method

[fathom summit]

Devs not catering to streamers is a good thing

[craggy tapir]

Just like how HL (imo) is the best game made under the BF name but is one of the worst BF games ever made

[merry heron]

Yeah but no. They need to add new things to it, not rip off from games

[versed rock]

I’m talking about battlefield 2,3,4,5,6 < all are good, worry over, the core game is back, no one worry okay, comprenday

[celest belfry]

Bro read up the conversation before you comment. It’s satirical

[crimson gate]

People hated on hardline for no reason so disappointing

[celest belfry]

HL was a great game, just not very battlefield

[versed rock]

BF 2,3,4,5,6 <all good, please don’t worry guys.

[fathom summit]

1 was good

[merry heron]

Yo I ain’t scrolling all the way up😭

[celest belfry]

Then don’t comment

[versed rock]

Yes 1 was good but, that is still kind of a spin-off

[merry heron]

Who are you?

[crimson gate]

Hardline was great and we won't ever get a spinoff like that again because it got hate for having battlefield in the title

[thin nexus]

We need canted sights fixed fr

[craggy tapir]

It was poisoned by its circumstances. It was a non-military BF without armored vehicles right when 4’s DLCs ended

The chances at a sequel also got destroyed by irl politics

[celest belfry]

The person who you commented on

[green pawn]

they are good ( not at launch ) but their sales always disappoint EA and its for a reason, this time hopefully it won't happen bcz they realised some boring core mechanics needs a change and also new ways to play which is BR

[merry heron]

Nah who is you to talk to me like that didn’t come here for that bud

[celest belfry]

Yeah, it’s what caused the downfall, lack of vehicles, the core identity of BF

The “all out warfare” experience got lost

[crimson gate]

They're not going to risk making a game like that without adding the battlefield name to it. And now they for sure won't risk making a game like that again

[craggy tapir]

The thing is, it had the best vehicle-based gamemode in BF’s history: Hotwire

Like 90% of the hate was purely because it wasn’t military themed

[crimson gate]

gamers are killing games and blaming it on the devs

[celest belfry]

Yeah, hence I think it’s a good game, but not a good battlefield

[versed rock]

Spin-off battlefield -not main game;

-BF hardline
-BFBC1
-BFBC2
-BF 2042
-BF1

Battlefield ‘core games’

-BF2
-BF3
-BF4
-BF5

• now BF 6

All ‘core games’ have been great so, no need to worry. Man my nerves are shot reading all the noise.

[green pawn]

right

[craggy tapir]

Where do you put 1942, 1943, and 2142?

[celest belfry]

43 was fantastic

Still think about it this day

[crimson gate]

What is a core game?

[urban karma]

2042 top of the tierlist

[green pawn]

most of this failed to meet sales

[green pawn]

failed as well

[rustic ingot]

There is a rather large post on Reddit discussing what a persistant war mode would be like in Battlefield (like Planetside 2) and tbh, that would be a lot better than some battle royal ngl

[celest belfry]

One of the best week 1 sales however

[crimson gate]

That would be sick

[celest belfry]

I remember the Beta for 2042, I was so disappointed

[versed rock]

Hmm, games sales doesn’t determine a great game. For example, theirs small developers that have the freedom to make games (which don’t make huge sales) that are self funded but, don’t necessarily mean it’s a bad game just doesn’t appeal, to majority which is fine. Mehh I get your point, but, I wonder what they base the argument that common mechanics are to justify ‘not enough sales’ because I can think of many reasons other than but, I won’t get into it..🙄

[celest belfry]

I liked V and 6 so much better in their betas

[fathom summit]

Missing 1942 and 1 could be classed as core

[celest belfry]

I’d call 1 core

[urban karma]

What’s that got to do with anything? That’s like me saying you’re failing as a player just cause you don’t meet the KD quota

[craggy tapir]

“A game for everyone is a game for no one”

Arguably, a game that appeals to everyone and gets a ton of buyers is a worse game than a game that appeals to a select audience and has minimal buyers

Cause the smaller game will outlive the larger game 9/10 times

[fathom summit]

Most BF games sold well apart from 2042 and Hardline

[celest belfry]

This, hence why making changes from suggestions of cod players should never be acknowledged

[versed rock]

I’ll give you one that has been majorly overlooked. It’s a past time, so irrelevant now.

Battlefield had multilayer online play before COD. The root issue was that when next generation consoles was realised we got BFBC1 while COD had MW2. If you look at the asteitcs BFBC1 looked out of touch in comparison. It didn’t look digital and modern nor did it feel fluid, it became very niche - which was at a huge detriment to its ‘broader appeal’

For example, BFBC1 should of been BF3 basically or BF2 2.0 but, they messed around. COD got head way and the rest is history since then BF has been playing catch up….

[merry heron]

Does anyone remember Operation Locker from BF4?

[celest belfry]

Yes, prison map

[merry heron]

That was one of the best maps I played in Battlefield. Never got to play Metro from BF3 though I heard that one was good too

[celest belfry]

They played mostly the same ngl

[celest cloak]

I loved getting ppl with the EOD bot in locker 😂

[craggy tapir]

Locker and metro are probably the best meat grinder maps in BF history

[versed rock]

This is important because when PS3 came out ‘ONLINE GAMING’ went up 100 fold. Thus, battlefield failed to capture the consumer now sadly, FPS gamers are sentimentally tied to the wrong game.. COD

[celest belfry]

The UAV throw in 4 on locker was goated

[merry heron]

Nah fr those were them maps that you see people dropping like what 100-200 kills in one game. It was made chaotic but fun

[craggy tapir]

Tbf, MW2 was an amazing game with an amazing story

[fathom summit]

COD was great during the 360/PS3 era tbh

Not so much now

[merry heron]

Black ops II was amazing. The story, the multiplayer, the zombies. If only cod was like that again instead of whatever the heck we have now

[craggy tapir]

The original MW trilogy was amazing. MW19 was decent but it could never recapture the way they did campaigns back then

[versed rock]

Agree, 1942 set a high president so did BF2 having the title as FPS king years(for online multiplayer)before COD went online The convo moved to BF vs COD and lack of sales. So, I had to get to the true root cause of why BF ain’t making the sales target it wants. The damage was done very early due to the release of BFBC1. Would love someone to debate me on this otherwise.

[unborn solar]

anyone able to join servers???ß

cod is a kids game btw ty for your attention

[errant fiber]

I had this issue some time ago, resolved itself with time. Also, scheiße.

[shrewd abyss]

• easy spotting

[shrewd abyss]

awesome!

[unborn solar]

danke diggi

[versed rock]

It was, so much so I stopped playing BF because BFBC1 wasn’t the digital, smooth relatable FPS shooter it should of been. COD capitalised on the major blunder from dice. The release of next gen and the ‘ BOOM’ of online gaming increasing 1000 fold made COD MW2 very successful. BF got left in the dust for its adventurism sadly.

[acoustic plume]

Join us

[tender cape]

I kinda miss the beta

[fathom summit]

We all do

[rustic ingot]

Don't we all. I can only run Redacted 128 players to farm for so long lol

[acoustic plume]

Right. Flanking with smg and beacons and radar was my go to. Shame

[celest belfry]

Will never understand people who play BF without vehicles gamemodes

[tight prism]

My message was deleted by the mods it looks like.

[versed rock]

That is the meat and bones of it ladies and gentlemen. That’s why BF has been lacking sales. Not because of mundane mechanics and ambitious new idea’s it’s because BF didn’t capture the consumer during the FPS gaming revolution. As a result, consumers became ‘attached sentimentally’ to an inferior franchise COD

[errant fiber]

I do hate that they removed my main playstyle. For some reason instead I am now a pseudo anti-tank gremlin given that the M4A1 SLAM has instead been given to recon (as per a leaked BF Labs build about a week ago)

[merry heron]

Close quarters conquest, rush, and tdm are fun wym

[acoustic plume]

Im trying to think of the word that might have caused it?

[celest belfry]

Big brother is watching

[tender cape]

It is understandable in bf1 because of the heavy bomber and artillery truck
I don't remember any game that has such broken vehicles other than it

[tight prism]

Even though it is a normal part of my vernacular.

[acoustic plume]

Anyways rip recon

[celest belfry]

Not my taste really, I feel like vehicles all bring the symphony of battlefield together

[tight prism]

They deleted my message explaining it too, weird.

I think I am a target of them at the moment, haha.

[celest belfry]

CIA MK Ultra

[acoustic plume]

Do you use long range weapons

[celest belfry]

I use AR

And LMG

[errant fiber]

I mean, I'm still going to be a Recce main probably. I'll just have to adapt and overcome :')

[acoustic plume]

But tank more huh

[celest belfry]

Always tank or Jet or Heli

[tender cape]

Is it because of the spawn beacon?

[urban karma]

Why are you guys acting as if they gutted Recon with the respawn beacon removal?

[acoustic plume]

Compromisation, ill meet you on the other side once i get over these changes

[tender cape]

I think it's a W move

[urban karma]

Ofc it is

[acoustic plume]

Yup

[celest belfry]

Honestly I always hated the spawn beacons, they ruined games like rush

[merry heron]

Battlefield hardline was in my opinion underrated. I liked how EA tried something different with the whole cops and robbers aesthetic instead of the war aesthetic. The maps were small (not too small), the levolutions were good, and it was just a fun game

[tight prism]

Because they did [word filtered by arbitrary mods] Infiltration strategies, because now as recon there is less incentive to not be a sniper bro.

[urban karma]

Thank the lord devs stopped you fake recons from that flanking playstyle

[celest belfry]

Spawn beacons were used mostly by people play recon class with CQC weapons to give their team and advance

Not snipers

[acoustic plume]

You were a victim?

[void spade]

i got muted for 24 hours on this discord server during the bf6 beta, i've noticed some of these discord servers for games of one sort or another, be it here, helldivers, dune awakening, etc, have really bad automod censor systems that block random words. Not quite as bad as the in-game chat censor of bf5, but still quite annoying at times

[tight prism]

Oh nyo, how dare we play the game and give our team a position as the recon.

[merry heron]

Yeah I don’t see the point of those with the recons

[errant fiber]

Common misconception. Snipers and reconnaissance are not identical.

[tender cape]

It was the worst thing when they camp in an unreachable spot somehow and when you finally kill them they just simply spawn back there

[urban karma]

Careful throwing around ‘victim’, you don’t know who you’re talking to. If I pulled up my stats, things would get real uncomfortable in here real quick

[celest belfry]

Hence why it ruined the “sniper” class “recon”

[errant fiber]

This I will concede was an issue in previous games.

[acoustic plume]

Ill find a work around

[void spade]

i recall the bf5 chat censors random words like clan, patton, and some other stuff

[urban karma]

I don't know what would make you think, I would lose a 1 v 1 to a flanking recon

[celest belfry]

Them using the same gun as you

[errant fiber]

Idk I feel like recon class would be better utilised in a reconnaissance pull role, than just being a sniper class under a different name.

[tight prism]

My first official EA warning, fascinating how actually problematic people never get those.

[celest belfry]

Then what do we do with the sniper rifle

[merry heron]

What do you guys think about the support class being able to use lmgs and engineers an smg in BF6? 2042 of course had it in reverse. Let me know which one you guys prefer

[errant fiber]

You have access to other weapon systems, no?

[urban karma]

First off all we need to nerf body shots one shotting

[acoustic plume]

Support assault, interchangeable as can be with me playing bf3 all day. PHACK

[versed rock]

Someone still needs to give me a good reason why they ‘ANNIHILATED’ clans and platoons. Mere friendship groups and BF community members that have long standing in the game.

100’s and 1000’s of friendship groups dismantled

[tender cape]

It was like this in previous games no? Except that they merged medics and support in one class now

[errant fiber]

You seem like a particularly abrasive and toxic individual. I think I'll avoid you.

[tight prism]

I know what they were going for with the Support role and thus why LMGs were made the specialty weapon, but for the Medic playstyle it is simply stupid. I think that the sub-classes within the roles should dictate the specialty weapon.

[celest belfry]

DICE isn’t really sure what they wanna do with the recon role, in 4 and all the previous games they were mostly the sniper class, then in 2042 with specialist they introduced mechanics that made them more reconnaissance roles. So the sniper class is not well established

[void spade]

regarding spawn beacons, reminded me of an annoying thing in bf5, with enemies climbing into that upper floor near a spawn on operation underground and being almost impossible to dislodge

[errant fiber]

It has been called Recon class since before I started playing Battlefield, and in BF4 it was extremely possible to do infiltration as Recon class.

[tender cape]

Yeah that happens in all bf games, bf6 included especially in Cairo map

[acoustic plume]

Why is that

[celest belfry]

I did not see it on the same level as now at all

[void spade]

generally though, i don't mind the idea of people being able to climb up to higher floors or roofs on maps, just that these places should be more easily available generally without it only being open to a few people who know how to exploit glitches to climb or parachute down/up or whatever

[merry heron]

I thought smgs made more sense for support. I get the ability as a support to lay down cover fire but with an smg you’re obviously gonna be quicker. If you’re reviving a fallen teammate and an enemy sees you, you got the speed of the smg to kill them and go back to reviving. Ya’ll get what I’m saying?

[void spade]

so many things that look like you should be able to use them to climb up walls on bf6 that randomly fall apart as soon as you stand on them lol

[tender cape]

I still don't know how people managed to climb the roof on B point

[errant fiber]

Most people's vision is based on movement. Give me a spawn beacon and a suppressed carbine and I'll infiltrate my way past the FLET in depth.

[versed rock]

That’s why battlefield had ‘special ops’ this was the issue created by its removal since BF2. It was the unsung 5th class of battlefield that vanished from memory. Special ops could of balanced the recon dilemma adding stealth, sabotage and intrusion.

[celest belfry]

I support that

[errant fiber]

I tragically did not play Battlefield at that time so I have no experience in that class so I can't speak intelligently on it.

[tender cape]

W

[celest belfry]

Add a 5th infiltration class, and recon to something like sniper.

Issue fixed

And do not let spec ops have snipers

[errant fiber]

I wouldn't mind a class similar in spirit to that to return though, as there seems to be a lot of opposing thoughts as to what recon class should and shouldn't do. As this conversation has demonstrated.

[celest belfry]

Recon should be sniper, that’s all i think

[red kiln]

how is giving assault the beacon a W

[versed rock]

Fair, just saying - their was a cool ‘ 5th’ alternative which could of balanced the recon class ‘in the BF6 dilemma’ of open weapons.

[celest belfry]

Spec ops could turn tides in rush and breakthrough

[red kiln]

thats just going to make infiltration more effective

[errant fiber]

Yep, I'm still mildly inconvenienced by them being fixated on open weapons.

[celest belfry]

Open weapons was the beginning of the end

[versed rock]

Exactly, it was a whole specialist class in its own right which merited and complimented a whole type of play style players commonly use.

[errant fiber]

There's quite a lot of overlap between snipers and reconnaissance, which I assume is why they got merged into one class.

[celest belfry]

Well then let’s establish boundaries

[red kiln]

parachute exploit and wierd hitboxes

[celest belfry]

Spec ops CQC focuses primarily on behind lines combat and objectives. Sniper sits 500 meters in friendly lines and snipes across the map

[versed rock]

Don’t be, it’s only a concession to attract more FPS players who rather ‘mix customisation’ a sales tactic at most, battlefield yet again sells it soul and Identity for more wonga. They won’t tell you that, can you imagine the uproar - but that’s the truth.

[red kiln]

honestly with open weapons it dosent really matter who has the beacon

[errant fiber]

Yep.

[red kiln]

i can just use a sniper with assault anyways

[celest belfry]

True, the traits of the class are so minor it’s makes no real difference

[tender cape]

No more camping in hard to reach spots
More flanking

[urban karma]

how is it not a W?

[red kiln]

do you realise that assault can use sniper rifles?

[versed rock]

5 or maybe 6 classes would of been better than ‘open classes’ and the traditional 4 but, that’s why everyone can’t make out head and tail of the new system all 🫣 oh DICE what have you created 😂😂

[tender cape]

This also makes the assault less selfish

[celest belfry]

I see the the pro of it tbh, it promotes front line deployment better instead of waiting for the “in combat” status to go away

[tender cape]

I only play closed weapons duh
Best they can get is dmr

[red kiln]

well i would argue thats even worse

[errant fiber]

Ngl I kinda don't fancy the "spec ops" title because, however accurate as it may be, it sounds cringe.

[celest belfry]

WIP titles

[tender cape]

Well that's your opinion

[urban karma]

Of course, 95% of the Recons were dropping beacons in their spots, which turned counter-sniping into a full-match-length grind

[errant fiber]

I'd just call it "Recon" or, even better, "Recce" since the British term is definitely better.

[versed rock]

Clearly having options is key to satisfying the majority. Filters, and options in abundance solve many quarrel’s and worry.

[void crow]

Put a solo respawn flair as the class gadget so it has a cool down and you can't abuse it, add sensor to the gadgets and the problem is solved

[topaz moth]

I want a third beta damn it

BF4 has been holding me over but I wanna play more BF6

[red kiln]

not really an opinion, lack of sniper hint make it great for sneaky camping, i always get 60+kills when i decide to go dmr camping on unreacheable spots, just gotta have better aim and predict skills so i guess it will be less comon tbh

[urban karma]

Recon doesn't need a "respawn flair"

The class is broken enough in the right hands

[celest belfry]

Or be like every ego recon and take a jet just to jump out 5 seconds after spawning

[red kiln]

giving it to assault is not really a good option either i would rather give it to support tbh

[errant fiber]

I wouldn't mind forcing jet/heli pilots into a "crew" class.

[tender cape]

If all routes will lead to camping in unreachable spots then just remove the beacon lol

But it won't be the case because assault carry less ammo anyway and its kit won't help to camp for very long

[urban karma]

What is the difference?!

[celest belfry]

Thankfully BF2042 addressed this issue by making a cooldown on players dying quickly or losing it

[red kiln]

less efective than assault flanking

[errant fiber]

I'll have to take your word for it since I avoid 2042 vehicles like the plague.

[urban karma]

We gotta start looking at the map if flanks scare you so much

[red kiln]

ammo not an issue with a beacon, redeploy is there for that issue

i would rather revive the forgotten class

and delete access to dmrs and sniper rifles

for that class

[celest belfry]

Yeah, its pretty much 1,5 minute cool down in vehicles if you die within or lose the vehicles within like 4 minutes

[errant fiber]

As a certified, licensed DMR (ab)user, I'll take a pass on that one chief. Sniper rifles should be limited, yes, but not DMRs.

[tender cape]

Yeah assaults shouldn't get access to them tbh

[urban karma]

Trust me, picking a sniper rifle on Assault is basically shooting yourself, and your team in the leg

[celest belfry]

Yeah who runs sniper on assault lol

[urban karma]

Matter of fact playing sniper rifle on anybody but recon is trolling in my opinion

Just because you can doesn't mean you should

[red kiln]

limited for the beacon class, im also a dmr abuser, havent touched a sniper rifle in ages lol

dmr is just better sure the skill floor is higher but its more rewarding in my opinion

[celest belfry]

The game “Hell Let Loose” does this, makes crew class for vehicles

[errant fiber]

I'm not really interested in Hell Let Loose for the simple reason that I am an Arma 3 addict.

[celest belfry]

Not even reforger?

[red kiln]

not when that alows for unreachable camping

[errant fiber]

Why limit myself to one era when I can have like 5?

[red kiln]

wich is the main issue people wanted the becon out of reacon

[errant fiber]

I play Reforger from time to time, but I have accumulated somewhere over 10 400 hours in Arma 3.

[celest belfry]

Do you know what grass is lol

[errant fiber]

As I once said to a friend who asked if I go outside: What's the IP for "Outside"?

[red kiln]

soo true it dosent make sense a jet pilot have a antimaterial sniper rifle adn a rocket launcher lol

[urban karma]

You won’t provide half the value of a recon, your kills are basically worthless since they just get picked up

[red kiln]

shoot them again and they dead wdym

[celest belfry]

You’ve wasted over a year just on that game lol

[red kiln]

sure its less efective

but dosent solve the key problem

[urban karma]

There is no problem

[red kiln]

the problem is anoying unreachable camping spots

[errant fiber]

Well, it's accumulated since 2015, so ~1 year out of 10 isn't too bad. I think, idk.

[red kiln]

there will still be unreachable camping spots

reduced effectiveness dosent make it less anoying

[celest belfry]

I started playing GTA 5 in 2013 and only have like 2000

[urban karma]

You’re just imagining some Assault boogeyman running sniper rifles in your head

[celest belfry]

So 10000 is nuts

[errant fiber]

I also make mods so like 4 months are just debugging shit.

[red kiln]

well no, im imagining a assault boogeyman running dmrs, because thats what im going to do lol

[errant fiber]

Ok fair.