battlefield-6

[short peak]

no it doesnt, kills matter the same on assault as they do recon, support and engineer, idk what kind of insane take this is

[past jasper]

mine are bad :(

[digital turtle]

I played the map a bit and the amount of flares and tracer that are firing out of the map is making me both blind and get tinnitus

[hushed inlet]

Kinda felt. I played nothing but hard tho so it was kinda difficult on locker

[floral rampart]

We smoking something awright

[past jasper]

i mean medic can kinda support the score with revives

[vocal sedge]

not even because of stats but because i wasnt going to play like siege of shangai and golmund railway and hainan resort

[short peak]

yeah but they're saying kills are less valuable on other classes which makes literally 0 sense

[daring basin]

Baffled that peoples still thing they did well when they lost more tickets with their low kd and not taking flags

[past jasper]

i mean he worded it extremely poorly

but also his take wasnt that good either

[short peak]

why are you assuming in this scenario that they arent taking flags? why cant people do their role and also get high kd and get flags?

[sonic citrus]

lol yall are so dumb it /bf6stats overview username

[flat blaze]

It literally doesnt. In BF4 and BF1 you could hit top of the leaderboard with a horrid KD by accomplishing what youre supposed to do. If a tank stays alive because 2 engineers sat on it and they both have horrid KDs I aint saying shit.

[floral rampart]

Guys stop shooting enemies if you are not an assault class!!!

[vocal sedge]

medic is generally the strongest class in the entire game when it comes to killing

[past jasper]

in 6 not really

[vocal sedge]

purely because of self heal

[short peak]

no your not allowed to kill people on medic you have to only revive people!!!!!

[floral rampart]

If you play support / engineer you are to lay out 5% accuracy suppression fire, nothing else!!!!!

[daring basin]

I generalised it, i did not mention him. But the lobby stats dont lie, every game thd same…

[short peak]

you're not supporting my class fantasy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vocal sedge]

i mean assault wasnt very strong i feel like having a wall and heals with ammo was much better tbh

[past jasper]

2042, 5 and 1 medic in general are the best killing class

[valid cedar]

don't shoot medics (and make sure you dont bear arms as medics too)

[hushed inlet]

Please tell me your not calling people dumb when you had the internet at your fingertips and failed to look up something basic and something that's also in your damn email 🙄

[short peak]

I replied to wrong person oops

[crimson gate]

I wish there was an actions per minute metric we could see

[past jasper]

recon was the best imo, because fucking regenerating c4 and beacon and uav

[flat blaze]

God I need BF1 bolt actions on medic again.

[foggy vessel]

there are kills per minute on tracker to see

[vocal sedge]

the second strongest class was scout in bf6 and support was imo the best

[floral rampart]

Medics should have red cross armbands, and you should get punished for killing them too!!!!!

[sonic citrus]

wtf are you talking about? im talking about using the bot in #stats 💀

[short peak]

I am just talking about this guy saying kills arent as valuable on other classes than assault which is one of the top 3 worst takes I've heard on this discord so far

[digital turtle]

Isn’t the assault class in BF 6 supposed to be a basic Frontline soldier?

I mean it kind of makes sense for his role, but I would get why that makes the class boring and uninteresting to use as he doesn’t really have any special gadgets/abilities aside from just breaking shit I guess

[past jasper]

idk, i felt recon was better than support in 6 beta

[vocal sedge]

yeah i played recon a lot too, but the wall was just too good tbh

[crimson gate]

I want to see all actions like dropping meds, revives, kills etc

[past jasper]

not your wall anymore with my c4 >:)

[foggy vessel]

yeah but there is no game that has that

[crimson gate]

Plenty of games have that?

[flat blaze]

Theyre giving assault respawn beacons. This now means they can bring their whole squad up to the front lines, or feed the enemy team tickets.

[past jasper]

also I was using recon a lot to foward deploy the squad

[foggy vessel]

which

[vocal sedge]

it should be a frontline soldier but it doesnt have good self sustain to continue playing frontlines

[sonic citrus]

anyway 345 revives is ok, i totally forgot how to use the defibs the first weekend

[vocal sedge]

you dont really have to waddle back to your team on support

[digital turtle]

I personally been playing engineer

[balmy yew]

Nah the game ain’t sweaty just aim center mass like in Halo and let the gun do the rest of the work.

[past jasper]

you really shouldve aimed head in halo but ok

[sonic citrus]

k100 my beloved

[crimson gate]

Google it and you’ll find a huge list of games

[floral rampart]

Headshot only!

[foggy vessel]

so you cant name one

[crimson gate]

League of Legends?

[worn marten]

Headshot only bf would be an interesting

[past jasper]

moba is cheating imo

[flat blaze]

Engineer is gonna be a rare breed in BF6 with how bad LMGs are and the fact theyre bringing back closed class weapons before even balancing the weapons.

[floral rampart]

Okay lets switch the topic from larping larrys to snipers oneshotting in specific parts of a body!!! (Bad aimers crutch)

[hushed inlet]

Yes. Which the full stats are online and in your email. Which you also had to ask before even attempting to look for it 🤣
Those are 1&2 combined.

[vocal sedge]

there were bf4 custom servers like that back in the day

[urban robin]

Daaaaang dawg

[worn marten]

Reminds me of the Overwatch aim training modes haha

[foggy vessel]

name 10 books! and no it does not have that

[sonic citrus]

master troll right here i bow down 😭

[floral rampart]

Fortnite

[crimson gate]

What

[past jasper]

this chat is going insane

[balmy yew]

It’s a good thing my brothers wedding is on the 18th and it’s a Saturday. I get atleast a week of battlefield 6.

[digital turtle]

Wdym?

This is important information for me to know as an engineer dude

[vocal sedge]

thats spm technically

[hushed inlet]

Not a troll. You just made your self look dumb when they litterly gave you the resources before you even asked. Then even sent the email so you can have a downloaded image of your stats

[floral rampart]

Congratulations to your brother!

[icy swan]

Can we start putting together a list of game modes from BF3 ? that gun mode where you get upgraded to a new gun after every kill, good times

[vocal sedge]

the more actions you do per minute the higher your score per minute

[hushed inlet]

Happy Wedding to your brother

[past jasper]

gun game has been in all recent bf i think

[sonic citrus]

thats not what i asked 😂 😂 😂

[foggy vessel]

that a totally different game and stats shown yeah the transparancy on a competitive game is higher

[floral rampart]

Pickle, wasn’t your score like 18k per game tho?

[flat blaze]

LMgs = Trash. People will only swap for anti tank. If Recon and their drones arent doing it 10x better, that is.

[vocal sedge]

you could suggest it to TRN but i doubt they would make such stats its a bit random

[past jasper]

actual horrid take

[flat blaze]

That and repairing

[crimson gate]

No each of those gives a different score I want the individual actions taken. This shows the intensity that the player is playing at an not just plopping down a TUGS

[smoky tulip]

@balmy yew If this were a WW1 or WW2 game, I would say one shot, one kill for snipers makes sense. In a modern game, not so much. Modern body armor is a factor.

[vocal sedge]

you realize that we are getting bf4 restricted class system?

[flat blaze]

Yall know casual players wont touch it. Them LMGs were so ass in the beta.

[vocal sedge]

you can just play carbines

[past jasper]

then you are the casual if you thought lmg was ass

[hushed inlet]

They are the same stats. So it is completely relevant to exactly what you were asking for. I just gave you a more detailed version

[hard ravine]

there's gonna be both last i knew

[foggy vessel]

truth is i could take you down with a knife so this what this good and bad talk is unemployment at a certain point

[floral rampart]

Yeah, but it’s not even for the realistic part. It gets me riled up seeing I killed somebody with a body shot, you know what I mean, feels kinda unfair

[past jasper]

like i am sorry, going 36-0 does not happen with any gun that isnt called kts100

[vocal sedge]

idk tbh, they kinda have to pick one and if it would be one then it would be locked because everyones begging about it

[hard ravine]

Wait did someone just say LMGs are trash lol

[flat blaze]

I tried them. They are ass. Felt like I was shooting people with spitballs, even with headshots.

[past jasper]

yes, someone legit said lmg was trash in beta

[hushed inlet]

Are we talking about modes ?

[maiden isle]

Still hard for me to play bf 2042 after bf6, it was just so damn better 😭

[vocal sedge]

in 6? yes lol

[past jasper]

not kts lol

[smoky tulip]

I didn't have much of a problem with them. Use the bipod and it is a killing machine. The trade off is being stationary

[digital turtle]

Yeah, they’re going to be experimenting with both open and close weapon class playlists

I mean for many people, them even doing this is a bit weird because I can kind of foresee this kind of separating the player in terms of what they want, and also the simple fact that matchmaking may be a little bit screwed but eh

[hushed inlet]

I felt that way to tbh but tbf my shit was wack first couple of games

[hard ravine]

Oh I thought he meant just overall. Was gonna say, that sounds like a solo COD streamer sentence lol

[slender epoch]

Lmg damage is too low if it’s already got a slow debuff

[sonic citrus]

you still didnt answer the question 😭 im done bro

[vocal sedge]

the beta lmgs atleast were way too slow compared to other weapons and werent very crazy good in midrange

[hushed inlet]

I said Google it. I did you just didnt pay attention

[past jasper]

L110 was ok ish, kts was insane in any range that isnt close range

[hard ravine]

Did you use them like Rambo or did you lay down hellfire lol

[vocal sedge]

but they cant really be much faster anyway

[floral rampart]

What? The no recoil lmg was insane long and mid range

[fickle lotus]

Lmg wasn’t completely ass but wasn’t great either

[foggy vessel]

yeah let everyone use the same class weapon and so there is no variety great!!! Obviously there are stronger and weaker weapons, but every weapon has a low enough time to kill

[vocal sedge]

i play normally aka not spamming random fire at people

[flat blaze]

Exactly. Carbines and assault rifles did a better job midrange and SMGs were there for close range.

[smoky tulip]

I would say they need a little more power and a headshot should always be a kill regardless the gun

[past jasper]

even in close range kts have the troll 2 headshot kill

[hushed inlet]

Unfortunately u can only get week 2 stats now cause they are the same link
Those weiners

[sonic citrus]

yea ill google the bot commands used in stats instead of here where the bot is you right 😂

[hard ravine]

One of the BEST games to get LMGs right I've noticed is Helldivers 2. Man you can go prone and just mow down enemies like you're mowing the grass

[slender epoch]

I def got some nice feeds w lmg

[vocal sedge]

you cant compare lmg balance from a pve game to a pvp game

[past jasper]

helldivers isnt pvp, and the machine gun isnt that good in hd2

[vocal sedge]

bf4 for example had terrible lmg balance, bf1 had it the best imho

[past jasper]

there are so many better stratagem equips

[foggy vessel]

how many people get close 2 headshots not many so and 3 shot nvo on body is better

[floral rampart]

#stats

[past jasper]

can your nvo kill in 3 shots at 100m?

[flat blaze]

Yeah but the damage is ass. Id rather have a little kick to my gun then hit my enemy with spitballs. Recoil aint nowhere near bad in the beta. Nothing really had much kick.

[hushed inlet]

You cant use Google correctly
https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats

[hard ravine]

There's a few of them. But you find choke points in BF and you can pretty much do the same thing. That's why I always loved Hardcore modes. One dude doesn't die, see where you're at in death video, and then come hunt you.

[slender epoch]

Just wait till the rest of the ARs come out

[vocal sedge]

didnt really like the way they did mgs/lmgs in bf5 but the light ones were pretty fun to play

[smoky tulip]

I felt the LMGs in BF1 were way underpowered on release. In BF4 hardcore they were great

[slender epoch]

probably some nice ones in there

[past jasper]

the point of kts was to control engagement distances

[sonic citrus]

im good dawg 👍

[slender epoch]

Everything in hc is great that’s the point lol

[digital turtle]

For open weapon classes, they are trying to sort of mitigate that with “signature weapon traits” as you probably seen in the beta

For example, only recon can hold their breath when using sniper rifles and there’s no movement penalty with LMGs for the support class

Eh… you may ask why they’re going through all this trouble and they should just close the weapon classes for the entire game which… eh fair

[hard ravine]

It don't matter for me, I'm M4 guy till I die. I like using stuff I own irl. Now I need them to add a KS7 to the shotguns

[sonic citrus]

i figured it out

[floral rampart]

Yeah but you are asking for a complete package gun, good ttk + no recoil+ low bloom

[smoky tulip]

I'm so happy they are testing dedicated hardcore modes in Labs right now.

[hushed inlet]

https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats

Nah let's see your week 2 stats. Mine were shit considering i just reviving tanked alot

[hard ravine]

ooooooo thats good to know!

[past jasper]

kts had horrible bloom tho

[flat blaze]

Are you telling me in a mode where everything kills super fast...Everything is good?

[vocal sedge]

lmgs in bf1 are veeeery strong lol, they dont have a large ttk drop off at distance like other weapons do

[slender epoch]

I think there’s an m4 in the AR category at some point

[foggy vessel]

when i fight a close quarters on a map with close quarter i will use the nvo and ofcourse weapons are at different ranges different good. Stop making these mental gymnastics. With this argument we could take every sniper and say its the best because it oneshot headshot kills somebody

[floral rampart]

I didn’t notice it, just gotta hit your shots unc!

[vocal sedge]

parabellum ttk at 100+ meters is like 340ms?

[slender epoch]

would be nice to put a ugl on it

[hard ravine]

Prolly just be an M16A4. Or an HK416, we already got the HK417 in Beta. Wasn't the 417 a Carbine in beta?

[sonic citrus]

its in #stats

[smoky tulip]

Yeah. Odd, a gun feels like a gun and not like a super soaker. Lol

[past jasper]

what im saying is unlike the opinion of some people above, lmg in 6 was not a weak class

[hard ravine]

I heard they are making tap-firing a lot better too. That'll help a ton.

[slender epoch]

It was which through me off becuase I could have sworn the 417 was a dmr in bf3 lol

[vocal sedge]

they need to bring back reverse spread from bf1 imo it was the best way to make lmgs feel good imo

[past jasper]

fuck no to reverse spread imo

[hard ravine]

It should be irl they have longer barrel and shooting .308 lol

[flat blaze]

Add some bloom then idc. Or add a little recoil. Most people here have played a FPS before we can adjust to recoil.

[foggy vessel]

yes and no they definitly overplay it the kts100 is good but not that good

[hushed inlet]

That's combined stats

[digital turtle]

The M16 platform is probably gonna make a appearance in the AR category

Same shit as the M4… just bigger

[smoky tulip]

Damage at distance they were very good. That I'll gice you. I just remember at launch they were like squirt guns. For a war that gave birth to the machine gun, it was a disappointment. Lol.

[sonic citrus]

correct

[vocal sedge]

its a good way to even out ads times, not make them op but not bad in close range and medium range accuraccy is better

[past jasper]

the problem is i dont know how can they buff kts without making it stupid, unless they do a flat buff to body damage and change synthetic rounds to the 1.7x while keeping the headshot damage so it would be more consistent?

[floral rampart]

Yeah ofc, I’m not saying recoil should be lowered matter of fact I think for most guns it should be higher especially good ttk guns

[slender epoch]

Wthelly

[flat blaze]

It was the weakest class. Still will be. Shotties hardly got a major nerf. Aint no reason to take a LMG over a carbine, SMG, or Assault rifle.

[hard ravine]

I'd assume so. If the Army sticks with this MCX irl it'll still be 10+ years before all the M16s and M4s get replaced lol.

what do they call it the one they are using the XM7?

[foggy vessel]

they should not buff that gun they could buff the other lmg but not the kts100 it would eliminate the point of this weapon being for long range medic fights to counter sniper

[sonic citrus]

i love lmg

[vocal sedge]

they already adjusted it by the update we had

[hushed inlet]

Found it. Your week 2 is negotiable considering how much you played

[flat blaze]

Oh I didnt get too much time to play weekend 2.

[vocal sedge]

atleast they stated that they adjusted midrange gunfights to require bursting more often

[past jasper]

i mean how would you buff L110 though, aside from ads it already have close to ar performance

[floral rampart]

Ay don’t be picking on people now!

[digital turtle]

Yeah the MCX Spear

From the promotional materials, yeah that gun is coming to the game

[vocal sedge]

update after beta not during beta, there were no changes in beta

[hushed inlet]

Im not. It was just a stated fact

[hard ravine]

What are you going by? KDR? I stuck with a dude who was new to BF when the beta was going on, he couldn't kill shit but was showing him how just be a support player, and he was scoring Top 5 quite a bit getting jack shit for kills lol

[digital turtle]

I can make an NGSW US Army loadout 🗣️ 🔥

[flat blaze]

Ah okay. Either way Im fine with it. Im fine with more recoil for quicker TTK.

[vocal sedge]

they re-adjusted ttk aswell

[smoky tulip]

This might be why I didn't have an issue the LMGs. Most of my time with them was in week 2.

[bronze grail]

Ttk should be 0, 1 bullet kills you with no revive

[vocal sedge]

probably going to be around bf3 ttk times or slightly slower

[foggy vessel]

they should buff and nerf it at the same time. It should have more firepower and much more recoil and the player carrying that weapon should have much less mobility

[flat blaze]

Yeah I only got to play Thursday and Friday.

[hard ravine]

BF3 or BF5 TTK would be cool to me

[flat blaze]

HC BF6 when?

[worn marten]

Nevarrr

[bronze grail]

Lemme ping Dice devs here rq

[flat blaze]

@dicedevs

[worn marten]

Bold move

[bronze grail]

bold

[smoky tulip]

Labs is testing Hardcore right now.

[digital turtle]

omg

[hard ravine]

Has anyone been playing some Battlefield 5 waiting for 6? I really regret skipping out on this one. I might suck at it but man, TTK feels good and tanks feel great too.

[flat blaze]

Peak

[digital turtle]

Dragon Valley’s loading screen is PEAK

[bronze grail]

Isn't contents of labs under strict NDA

[devout plume]

A dice dev here please don't ping me... This is a warning

[vocal sedge]

i hope bf6 will bring in more intellectuals that will strive the hardcore larpers away

[hushed inlet]

Bruhhhhhh

[flat blaze]

Ew. Please dont mention that game to me again.

[hard ravine]

I can't get thew time to learn flying planes in BFV because level 500 dudes wont get taken down once all game

[bronze grail]

It will be the other way around

[worn marten]

Yes
But that means nothing to the people who want to leak it

[floral rampart]

100%, but you gotta chill with the larp too

[slender epoch]

I hope there’s hc servers man so if people complain about ttk they pile jus play that

[hushed inlet]

There was a battlefield 5 😉
Omg I never knew

[hard ravine]

Better than 2042 tho lol. Last Battlefield I spent a lot of time in was Battlefield 1. Didn't even play that game all the way through once PUBG got big.

[bronze grail]

That one Chinese guy comes to mind. Dude leaks more footage than a faulty faucet does water

[smoky tulip]

BFV had the best vehicle system in a BF game in awhile. I loved how you had to replenish ammo. The ammo and repair points made vehicle warfare balanced.

[flat blaze]

Worst of the WW2 BF games unfortunately.

[vocal sedge]

idk a lot of good bf4 players are coming back, probs some good cod players going to transfer over

[hushed inlet]

Ik it existed. Never played it

[worn marten]

Complaining about the ttk being to short on some guns does not then make playing a mode where the ttk is short for everything a solution

[smoky tulip]

This came from the devs. Let me see if I can find the article.

[hushed inlet]

Gotta ask who pre ordered here?

[bronze grail]

I never played Bf4 😔 being poor sucks

[flat blaze]

Idk man I had more fun flying around on hovercraft (they finally hovered really high in the sky) vs BFV on launch.

[vocal sedge]

bf4 isnt very great these days anyway tbh

[bronze grail]

I'm still on the fence. Cyberpunk burned me too much

[vocal sedge]

plays nothing like it used to

[hard ravine]

I've only heard people say the TTK is too slow in beta. Which I agree, 1 or 2 less rounds to kill would have been perfect imo

[flat blaze]

Oh fuck you too? I got nasty PTSD from that one.

[devout plume]

Cyberpunk is much better now

[bronze grail]

Ah so I'd die in 1.5s than 2s, swell

[hard ravine]

Stalker 2 is pulling a Cyberpunk. Crap at launch, but you can feel like it'll be good in a year or two

[vocal sedge]

i dont get why hardcore/milsim players complain about the ttk tbh

[devout plume]

If u still own cyberpunk u should try the game again

[worn marten]

Inverse, people have been saying it’s too low not slow

[bronze grail]

I played it at launch day, finished the game in two weeks and never touched it again

[fickle lotus]

Ttk/ttd was fine imo idk what the complaining was about

[flat blaze]

The only game Im giving the benefit of that too is No Mans Sky. Sean Murray has earned my forgiveness.

[flat blaze]

My Xbone started smoking on launch day. I couldnt believe it. It had surviged Ark, GTA V, all that, to almost die to Cyberpunk.

[vocal sedge]

below 200ms and like less than 10 frame ttd's arent fine

[hard ravine]

I didn't complain really about TTK as I i'll get what I want in a Hardcore mode. I just felt like 3 or 4 shots to the head with hollowpoints was too much

[digital turtle]

Stalker 2 is my main game if there’s an argument about UE5

[hard ravine]

I hate that Engine man

[foggy vessel]

stalker 2 recent reviews are much worse and the game costs 110 euros on the ultimate edition

[digital turtle]

Source: I played stalker 2 on launch day

[bronze grail]

Sony pulled cyberpunk off ps4 ps store, remember that?

[fickle lotus]

Idk what that means mate I just know I found it enjoyable personally

[flat blaze]

Yessir I was mad Microsoft didn't do the same

[smoky tulip]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/news/community-update-battlefield-labs-testing

In this article EA discusses at the bottom concerning Hardcore.

[hard ravine]

Every UE5 game seems to look and feel the same.

[digital turtle]

What’s the issue with that engine? I heard that the main issue is that developers apparently suck at optimizing their games on it or whatever

[worn marten]

Yeah I like the ttk being 4-5 shots, just the aiming and combat style I prefer. But those other modes will work out for you :)

[hard ravine]

Yeah, they run like crap too lol. Supposedly Stalker 2 is updating to the newest version and that's supposed to help a lot.

[bronze grail]

I LOVE UE5

3 FRAMES PER SECOND

100% GPU USAGE

MELTING CPU

[vocal sedge]

you get 1 frame ttd's even at like 240ms ttks if the player that killed you has cringe ping and itll feel worse and more inconsistent in bf6

[smoky tulip]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/news/community-update-battlefield-labs-testing

[vocal sedge]

yeah 4-5 shots is a standard for bf tbh

[bronze grail]

Thank

[hard ravine]

Devs rely WAYYY too much on framgen nowadays. That's what I liked in BF6 beta, I didn't use DLSS or framegen at all. And I was getting 100fps on medium

[smoky tulip]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/news/community-update-battlefield-labs-testing

[vocal sedge]

bf6 was pretty well optimized yes

[bronze grail]

Just use dlss bro just use fsr bro, don't you like smudgy frames bro?

Native is KING

[digital turtle]

Well, that’s because battlefield six is still using the frostbite engine, is it not? 🗣️ 🔥

[hard ravine]

Yep, and BF6 ran great

[valid cedar]

dlss and framegen are more realistic because reality is dystopian and full of AI slop

[fickle lotus]

Siege of Shanghai and op locker on bf6 would hit like crack

[bronze grail]

Bf7 on ue5

[hushed inlet]

My friends group was all fine.
Ranges from shitty shit shit to
7950x3d/5090

[digital turtle]

Yeah, I had very little issues

The only major issues that I really had gameplay wise was rubber band, but that was at the very end of the open beta so it wasn’t bad

I did have some UI issues with certain attachments, not wanting to equip to that gun when I’m in a match only.. that’s fine

[bronze grail]

The only issues I had were infinite loading screens when loading into a match during beta 1

[digital turtle]

I didn’t know. I had a nice experience. It was 8 out of 10.

[hard ravine]

I had that a couple times but other than that I had a flawless experience

[bronze grail]

The game would start loading up the match then it'd suddenly go to the splash screen with the loading icon. My mouse's RGB kept blinking

It was weird

[valid cedar]

siedge of shanghai but let engineers rebuild the tower because the map is more fun with it up but levolution is also cool

[hard ravine]

I dunno if I gotta mess with mouse smoothing or something in the settings in BF5, but I cannot land shots like I could in BF6. I still gotta mess around with it

[bronze grail]

Maybe just a crumb of level evolution. Elevators crashing

[fickle lotus]

The levolution looks cool but C becomes aids afterwards

[valid cedar]

tower going down is iconic, i'm afraid engineers rebuilding it is the only solution

[bronze grail]

Last zone on Cairo breakthrough is pure brainrot, it reminded me of Shanghai gameplay I saw back in the day

[hard ravine]

I've been wanting Kharg Island to be remade forever. That was prolly my favorite map besides Damavand Peak.

[fickle lotus]

This is why locker is so nice

[bronze grail]

Locker? I barely know 'er!

[fickle lotus]

Devs don’t pretend it’s a coherent map, the sheer chaos is so unapologetic

Every battlefield has that one choke point map where you just chuck shit through a doorway for half an hour and I wouldn’t have it any other way

[slow horizon]

lis missle players, dm

[floral rampart]

It’s fun, you “bf vets” always got something to complain about

[hard ravine]

I think I liked Metro more than Lockers

[valid cedar]

honestly i hope to get some shanghai vibes on that new york map, very hot take probably but i think battlefield is the most fun when it's all out warfare without jets

[fickle lotus]

I’m glazing op locker ffs

[fickle lotus]

Jets are cool but I exclusively use them on suicide missions ngl

[vocal sedge]

ye i thought my pc wouldnt run it very well either

but had 100fps on a 8gb card

[valid cedar]

i just feel like the gameplay dynamics between infantry and helicopters is a bit different when helis don't poop themselves about jets

[hard ravine]

Same, I'm on a 4060 and was getting 100fps on medium/high

[vocal sedge]

huh on what res

[finite orchid]

warzone is 100x better than bf

[hard ravine]

1440, and Wasnt using DLSS or anything either

[fickle lotus]

Unsuccessful ragebait 💔

[vocal sedge]

are you sure you didnt have frame gen on

[hard ravine]

im sure I dropped to 70-70fps often

[valid cedar]

good! believe that! what a shame you won't join us on battlefield really 😢

[hard ravine]

Nah I was on Native. I also have 32gb RAM on an i511400 if that matters much

[vocal sedge]

was my fps that much lower then? because i was 1080p all low on a rx6650xt

[finite orchid]

nah I actually hate cod and love bf. Yall have been complaining about bf for over an hour so I thought I would try to unite yall

[vocal sedge]

weird my friend with a 3060ti was playing low 1440p at 100 fps aswell

[fickle lotus]

Real talk bf6 is a solid 7/10 rn with empire state bringing it down 2 points

[vocal sedge]

and 4060 isnt much more powerful from a 3060ti

[hard ravine]

yeah my budy was runing the same on that card too

[little solstice]

is it bad i actually love empire state lol

[valid cedar]

i don't even play battlefield i thought it's a cross stitching server tbh

[finite orchid]

lol

[hard ravine]

I was mainly on medium just put particles and stuff to high if i remember right

[fickle lotus]

It’s like a wannabe locker, infantry only map that fails because the choke points aren’t good enough so you just end up getting fucked

If someone else can enjoy it happy for them at least 😂

[vocal sedge]

still weird

[valid cedar]

i wish we had an infantry-only map that replicated a gimmick from bc2 squad deathmatch (or am i thinking of something else?) where there was a neutral apc spawn as a little side-objective to either use for advantage or destroy asap to deny the advantage

[hard ravine]

umm i think BF4 had a counter-strike bomb mode but it never went far but i dont remember what ur saying

[valid cedar]

https://youtu.be/c_3Z_TlX3xo

[hallow geode]

Battlefield 6 is the #12 best selling game on Steam right now. Black Ops 7 is #152 lol

[fickle lotus]

Bo7 will still outsell, not an indictment on bf but cod is just that massive as a franchise

[hallow geode]

Well what has just started circulating around about portal in the past couple hours makes me pretty confident it will actually outsell BO7

[little solstice]

if the beta is to go by, bf6 deserves it, probably won't happen but it damn sure deserves it. it's definitely the most fun i think i've ever had in a battlefield game before

[fickle lotus]

Agreed

[fickle lotus]

Nah casual fan base is just massive for cod, like even if battlefield 6 is a better game by every metric ( and it absolutely is) the sheer amount of people who just know cod as that gun game propels it far and beyond

[slow horizon]

lis missle players, dm

[hidden carbon]

"that gun game" lol

[candid tundra]

Excuse me. About portal in BF6 is it possible to create new entire map?

[hidden carbon]

I believe so

[candid tundra]

I wish I can make de_dust...

[hidden carbon]

Or Cold Storage from Halo

My buddy and I never lost on that map, 4 controller games lol

[candid bison]

de_dust2 really finds its way into every game where you can create a map lol

[fickle lotus]

Mario kart levels in portal will hit like crack

[gray dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988837269689483285/1410661875766530078/image.png?ex=68b1d4c0&is=68b08340&hm=081e131efd4201479af003789b9620723a83c52ebf3712d27bf74f404b29a110& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404558469687803904/1410685014214971442/5574069409876937621.mov?ex=68b1ea4c&is=68b098cc&hm=101cadfd35056341469c9fdd09906a6962aae07c4a2b1e3c377b7e4bb53efdc4& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404558469687803904/1410656035777286376/sadc_1.png?ex=68b1cf4f&is=68b07dcf&hm=753df6413c6d7fe2421292cf17e9fa6f09e4df44be770157bd1110d77906f738& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988837269689483285/1410690006980362400/image.png?ex=68b1eef3&is=68b09d73&hm=582f6a378bb07c546cadc8a90b8b684f4bfdac2b424f6240556bc9e930958305& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404558469687803904/1410686982635655168/31.png?ex=68b1ec21&is=68b09aa1&hm=69bfdca5befb5da7f338d41b41ab346d4c171135187c250b7ccf2a0755e17e66&

[tribal jackal]

You ever play mcc?

[chrome chasm]

BF6 needs to give us the option to declutter and customize the hud, remove or heavily nerf sliding and to release far more big maps for me to consider buying, I know big maps are coming but they should be the overwhelming majority, not 2 or 3. Focus on making a good BF and if the COD community like it and want to come play amazing but dont pander to them

[past jasper]

i mean if a map can be made dust 2 will just be made

[candid bison]

yep, a classic

[strong bone]

Dust 2 overrated af
Classic inferno legendary

[outer thistle]

de_cbble is the best map in CS and nothing comes close

the best Battlefield map however is Empire State

[maiden fog]

lol

[hidden carbon]

Lol Halo 3 on Xbox like '08 not MCC

[tribal jackal]

No ik, I was just asking

[hidden carbon]

Okay

I didn't get online console access 'till '10 lol

[honest folio]

have you guys seen jackfrags video on the range finder for the sniper?

[hidden carbon]

I think I played some MCC though.

[icy swan]

Hi, can Dice please add an in-game built in benchmark. A simple 2 min run would be appreciated.

[vestal canopy]

for bf6?

oh, he just released it like an hour ago

[past jasper]

dust 2 is just a very good casual map

comp wise dust 2 is absolute ass

[vocal sedge]

dust 2 is boring tbh

[strong echo]

Guys, it appears that OFS will have the following vehicles per team:

• 3 tanks
• possibly 2 LAVs
• 1 attack jet
• 1 fighter jet
• 1 attack heli
• 1 transport heli
• 3 transport vehicles
• 2 possibly buggies or quads

[past jasper]

i mean if you have played it a thousand times yes its boring

which we all have

[vocal sedge]

yeah

its like a near 20 year old map or something soon

[past jasper]

and it has always been popular and ported to a million other shooters

[vocal sedge]

pretty crazy tbh

[past jasper]

imagine a battlefield large map sized dust 2

[maiden burrow]

Finally got my new PC finished and she is ready for BF6 Baby! Ryzen 7 9800X3D / RTX 5080

[past jasper]

probably doable tbh

though it would barely have any resemblance of dut 2

[maiden burrow]

I was playing the Beta on my i7 9700 / RTX 2080 Super So I can't wait to feel and see the difference

[hollow harbor]

remake amiens 1:1 in bf portal

[vocal sedge]

that map shouldve never existed in the first place

[fickle lotus]

What

[honest folio]

Yeah I was watching it and tbh I'm in 100% agreement with him when it comes to that range finde r

I think it compares too much to the call of duty style of sniping and it just doesn't feel right to me

Sniping was done masterfully in 3,4 and 1 and it should be more along the lines of those games

[vestal canopy]

the hold range finder* function to get a perfect shot everytime should go imo

the hold B key thing

[honest folio]

Jack is a really good PC gamer and in the hands of other people with the same skill level it legit feels like they're hacking when they're just using a broken game mechanic

[vestal canopy]

he's got a good pont, it takes the skill out of long range sniping tbh

at least that is what it looks like in the video, i never tried that attachment in the open beta

[honest folio]

That's probably why I felt like people were hacking whenever they were sniping
Especially on that map

[past jasper]

i mean

[echo wind]

Super long range sniping is so bitchmade of a strat, 80% of the time your no hitting shit or getting hitmarkers, but 100% of the time free dogtags for me

[past jasper]

they can just make range finder a higher cost item

[honest folio]

Nah that won't solve it. They need to nerf it

[past jasper]

also saying broadly have a hang of bullet drop is any skill is kinda just not ture

[echo wind]

Bot, obliterate this fn

thx

[past jasper]

with any experience you can just hit the shots very easily

also LRF is very real and imo shoiuld be in the game

[honest folio]

Yeah cause it's skillful when you have an attachment that does it for you

That's the point of it. It completely takes the skill out of using a sniper rifle in game. It's almost comparable to call of duty style of sniper gameplay.

[past jasper]

so is real life

[honest folio]

Range finders have been in battlefield before and worked fine but it doesn't give you instant headshots from 10000meters away

[past jasper]

make the LRF cost more, and maybe make it not instantly adjust to balance it out

it doesnt give you instant headshots in 6 either, so idk what you are talking about

[honest folio]

You should watvh the video I'm talking about

[past jasper]

i literally used LRF in beta, i think i know how it works

[echo wind]

Mfs with the SRR61 and 40X/Range Finder are always bottom leaderboard material

[slow hare]

I just watched it. I dk sounds op out of the box. I already have a idea sounds crazy but might be crazy lol. Irons sights with or without the Lazer lol. No one could find you but you can see them lol.

[echo wind]

Thinkin they are Chris Kyles god given gift at sniping 🥀

[honest folio]

Just imagine it in a hardcore mode

Broken asf

[past jasper]

literally just shoot people normally in hc makes them die anyways, why do you need a attachment that have a cost to do the exact same thing

[echo wind]

If you think THATS broken you havent played enough hardcore

[past jasper]

depends on how the health and stuff is set

[slow hare]

Rip 😭. Say this is for you Chris well coding the game lol

[honest folio]

I don't play hardcore enough to say so I just imagine it would be.

At least based off from the video.

I never liked hardcore except in battlefield 1

[slow hare]

O hell yeah. Montage for days.

[echo wind]

RSC instakilled like the bolt actions

[hearty kelp]

HARDCORE 300% DAMAGE AFGHANISTAN SIMULATOR

[honest folio]

Essentially what that range finder is

[past jasper]

literally use a regular gun that shoots faster defeats any amount of use of sniper

[hearty kelp]

honestly the only thing I hope is that 4x lower mag optics don't get scope glint

[past jasper]

people die in one shot anyways why choose the gun that shoots slower

[hearty kelp]

i love low magnification scopes, and the fact they gave you no glint compared to long range scopes was a huge plus in 4

[past jasper]

and have worse ammo capacity btw

[slow hare]

Can't shoot what you can't see good sir!

[past jasper]

if you can see me i can see you

[slow hare]

Maybe? But range is still my friend.

[honest folio]

All I'm saying is that they need to nerf it. delay it in a cool down.

Or something to make it less over powered

Making the attachment cost more won't change it. Cause if a noob can headshot people from 10000 meters across the map with little to no effort says a lot

It doesn't take that long to unlock weapon attachments

[short peak]

ah nvm I've been running volley pod, maybe thats what is doing all the damage and not the grenade launcher

idk which one it is, one of the two is insane

[hidden carbon]

I don't think an attachment is going to magically make you good

[short peak]

tbh theres plenty of attachments that make you go from crazy recoil to none so its not impossible that it will make you play better but no it wont make you a better player

[floral rampart]

Attachments won’t save 5% accuracy suppression fire Andy’s

[short peak]

no unfortunately not

[hidden carbon]

Yeah, I was watching some guy's videos about Counter-Strike and their "sight to shoot" speed stat lol. Rangefinder won't help if you're slow

[honest folio]

It's not going to instantly make you good but it significantly shortens the gap in skill in a concerning amount

[restive robin]

i didn't snipe much in the beta. but 2042 and bf6 are the same engine. with my sws in 2042 lr barrel and hp ammo i get 0 bullet drop over 400m. why are you guys worried about range finder lol

[short peak]

eh I dont think its concerning, everyone gets attachments and it does not take long at all so concern is probably not the correct word

[honest folio]

2042 is still very different compared to prior battlefield titles

[hidden carbon]

Time to damage speed lol

[short peak]

@floral rampart the mods banned my tank gunner

[floral rampart]

Noooooooooo!!

[restive robin]

well even with the default recon sniper loadout i felt like in beta there was like no bullet drop. so i feel like bf6 might be worse

[floral rampart]

That is right, legit 0 drop on snipers

[honest folio]

Sniping in 3, 4 and 1 was a lot more satisfying and rewarding to me and I feel should be more like those games then what the route is going now

[short peak]

they're taking us out slowly

[floral rampart]

They won’t take me alive

[short peak]

[whole bridge]

Poor fish

[vocal sedge]

bf1 and bf6 sniping is so talentless its actually embarrassing

[vocal sedge]

sweetspot should never be a thing in any fps game

i was actually amazed that they put it back into the game

that was like the last thing that i expected them to do

i was so sure it would be a never to return feature

[vernal radish]

Hurry up October

[stable remnant]

im sure 4 studios and all their youtubers as consultants can make 1 decent game between them. It would almost be hard to mess it up

[slate wigeon]

Hope y’all have a good day 😄

[stable remnant]

You too ❤️

[swift fractal]

Right!!

[molten halo]

Tbh I'd rather have small maps than 2042 maps

But also I liked the medal of honor reboots

[vernal radish]

Can’t get here fast enough

[vocal sedge]

large maps were never good tbh

[molten halo]

Cairo was the right size for me

[vocal sedge]

cairo was good yeah

liberation peak is considerably small aswell actually

[molten halo]

I also liked the one in brooklyn

[vocal sedge]

we will probably have muuuuch larger maps lol, but i really hope we get more of cairo sized maps

[molten halo]

The fourth one there was my least favorite

[vocal sedge]

idk i had mixed feelings about the new york one

too many angles too many windows too much verticality it was just kinda aids to play but it was no where near as bad as a lot of the maps we have had in the past

[maiden fog]

cod snipers require skill

[molten halo]

I liked the destructable sky bridge

[vocal sedge]

idk how cod snipers work

but snipers in bf should always be 1htk head 2htk body at all distances

makes sniping less appealing and reduces rat gameplay + much more rewarding to play

[stable remnant]

lots of rooms you could enter with doors glued shut, just wierd

[vernal radish]

Did you play at all this weekend ?

[maiden fog]

COD is always one tap to the head

[vocal sedge]

thats not a bad thing, it would be bad if you could access those rooms

[vocal sedge]

yeah thats more skill requiring

[stable remnant]

you can, thats my point

[vocal sedge]

too bad that cod takes away any skill depth by the most overpowered and untalented aim assist there is

[vocal sedge]

oh i misread mb

[signal estuary]

Not really, is point and click the fact snipers work in cqb says it requires next to no skill

[stable remnant]

it made me think of warzone, and never running into that 'locked' door problem

[vocal sedge]

i really hope there will be more similar maps to cairo thats like the best map you could have in a battlefield type game

minimal but easy to predict/read verticality and good path ways/routes so you cant really get into a stalemate unless the team is just that bad

like talah market, prise de tahure type maps

[maiden fog]

body shots?

[signal estuary]

sure 1 or 2 maps like Cairo is ok but if half the maps are closed in with no verticality the games basically dead

[maiden fog]

depends

[signal estuary]

no it really doesn't, snipers just don't require skill in CoD in CQB or at long range, it's point and click with minimal drop or lead required. Go play arma where sniping requires actual skill

[molten halo]

If I played arma I'd do it to be AFSOC

[vocal sedge]

lol no

bf5 is full of garbage and every community server is made around tight closed in maps with limited verticality with few exceptional

infantry only servers have always been popular aswell when it came to smaller closed maps

[molten halo]

You know what? Bet, I'm gonna play arma

[signal estuary]

lol yes, the most played maps on BF4 are smaller maps like Zavod and Flood Zone mid size maps with verticality

[plain meteor]

what kills bf5 for me is that it's WW2 but ppl got all these goofy guns, outfits etc etc

[vocal sedge]

ill live with floodzone and zavod its not super crazy

but if youre going to pull golmund railway, sinai desert, panzer storm then you should just be fired imo

al marj is insanely goated

like maps like that play the best

[signal estuary]

I haven't played any battlefield after BF4 as there trash

[craggy tapir]

Golmud ain’t that bad

It gets annoying as an infantry player after a while, but it’s a pretty good vehicle and air map. The village is also neat with the multiple layers

[vocal sedge]

it is bad thats why every bf4 server on golmud has fast vehicle respawn

its just an empty flat map its so boring

[craggy tapir]

It’s bad, yeah. It just isn’t as bad as you said before

[vocal sedge]

you die to random things the entire game you cant do anything you cant go anywhere its just slop

[vocal sedge]

true

[craggy tapir]

HL was good

[vocal sedge]

quentin scar was terrible, legoland was terrible

[signal estuary]

would have been good if they didn't tie it to the battlefield name

[vocal sedge]

al suldan sucked

[vocal sedge]

never understood this mindset tbh

[craggy tapir]

I actually agree to that, yeah. It would’ve been amazing if it wasn’t called BF hardline and was instead just hardline

Too many people were disappointed by a non-military bf game

[vocal sedge]

game is good maps were better than 4s seemingly

[craggy tapir]

It was a good game overall though

[vocal sedge]

mechanically the same pretty much

[signal estuary]

just nothing I want from a game called battlefield

[craggy tapir]

I can only think of 1 bad map. And it was a city block infantry-only map

[hallow geode]

Did you just say you haven't played a video game because you believe it's trash? Lol did you mean to say you haven't played any game after 4 for more than a few hours because you found them trash?

[vocal sedge]

games after 4 were trash

[hallow geode]

Cos it reads as "I heard game was bad so didn't play game"

[vocal sedge]

bf1 was slop, bf5 was even worse, 2042 was worse aswell, og bf4 players are only now coming back on bf6 lol

[craggy tapir]

2042 is a statistical anomaly so it shouldn’t be included in the median

[hallow geode]

Just because gunplay in BF1 was not great doesn't mean it wasn't an absolute immersion masterpiece

[vocal sedge]

gunplay in bf1 was good

[plucky dawn]

Can confirm this is accurate. The last BF game I played was BF4. Haven’t played any since. (Other than trying them but not enjoying them).

[hallow geode]

If gunplay was good for you then the game should be an 11/10 lol

[vocal sedge]

it was the cut out movement, the terrible maps, just outright annoying vehicles such as ilya muromets, mortar truck, gadgets are cancer

suppression was ass, sweetspot is terrible

[vocal sedge]

gunplay means the guns mechanics, its just 1 of many things necessary for a good game

bf1s gunplay is literally the same from bf3 lol

[signal estuary]

played the closed alphas, betas, and demos of every battlefield since BF3.

[vocal sedge]

meaning its the same as 4 aswell

same but different values for different things

[torn carbon]

so your were playing COD 🥹

[hallow geode]

Obviously I ain't just talking about one thing. I of course implied that if gunplay is good to you then the rest of the game being peak should round it up to 11/10

[vocal sedge]

what was wrong with the gunplay? its the same gunplay in bf6 lol what are you talking about

[signal estuary]

nah is a reskin of battlefronts gunplay you can feel it in the lmg the most

[vocal sedge]

spread decrease spread increase ready to fire state

screen center aim

[acoustic plume]

eh

[vocal sedge]

the only bad mechanics were suppression and sweetspot

[stable remnant]

cod makes fun game modes at least

[hallow geode]

In what milkyway galaxy is BF1 gunplay the same as BF6 lol

[vocal sedge]

the only difference is TTK's

[vernal radish]

Hope the BR delivers. So far it sounds incredible. ( so far)

[vocal sedge]

and less visual recoil and ads isnt tied to screen center but aim is tied to ads

[molten halo]

Alright got arma, and it's downloaded

[vocal sedge]

and no aids suppression that influences your accuraccy

[acoustic plume]

sounds? where are these updates

[molten halo]

Now I'm gonna go AFSOC there and see how it helps

[vernal radish]

Google is free 😉

[vocal sedge]

do you even know what is gunplay? youre talking about the guns mechanics that affect the gunplay right? like you arent misunderstanding that?

[acoustic plume]

it better be good, only 2 big maps at launch isnt it

then again it makes sense since BR is a huge one

[vocal sedge]

because its the same mechanics since bf3 that were in bf4 and same mechanics in 1

[vernal radish]

After the last 2 garbage games, As long as they are good it’s totally ok. They will add more

[vocal sedge]

5 and 2042 were different and now we are back to those mechanics in 6

its the best gunplay you could have in battlefield tbh

[stable remnant]

Arm3 was lovely when you followed a squad leader who knew what they were doing. I used to fly squads in the heli back and forth to base

[vernal radish]

BR map also looks very cool. The residential area with palm trees looks great

[hallow geode]

When you shoot a gun in BF1 the way the gun reacts relative to what happens to the enemy and the distance of drop of and all these things. It is wildly different from any other BF game. In BF4 or BF6 I have options. In BF1 I just hold left click and the enemy dies. It's boring

[vocal sedge]

thats literally every game lol

[short peak]

Interesting

[vocal sedge]

either you burst, tap, spray

[craggy tapir]

HL’s Hotwire beats out 99% of cod’s gamemodes

[hallow geode]

Why would you burst or tap in BF1? What's the benefit?

[vocal sedge]

ready to state fire and you have to pace your shots to decrease spread

the same things as in bf3 and bf4 btw

lmgs worked different they had reverse spread, the longer you fired the more accurate they got

but its the same thing at the end, increase/decrease of spread with minimal recoil

[acoustic plume]

reading ur name makes wanna play bf4

[hallow geode]

"The longer you fire the more accurate they get"..... that's a boring mechanic lol

[acoustic plume]

i never beat the story, too stuck on bf3. bf4 is good

[stable remnant]

that was 10 years ago. The modes in 6 are bad and barely work

[vocal sedge]

its the best way to even out large magazine, high rpm guns, instead of cutting ads speeds and making it inconsistent at everything

[craggy tapir]

Eh. It forces you to choose between conserving ammo and having more accurate fire

[craggy tapir]

They need to be tweaked, yeah. They’re pretty much the same as they have always been tho

[hallow geode]

Fair enough if people like that. That ain't for me. I like more traditional gunplay

[vocal sedge]

i mean bf4 lmgs were just better AR's on a lot of maps

[crimson gate]

Everytime you die in bf4 to an lmg the red highlight is always some dude prone behind a smoke

[vocal sedge]

100 bullet mags that you could endlessly fire without cool downs

[acoustic plume]

oh man dont forget the recoil, where is it

[stable remnant]

What was that game mode in Halo where you held a skull in your hand, you were the target, you could throw/pass it to other players. Give me that, give me Search and Destroy with 1 life each, give me prop hunt. Then add your team deathmatches and all the usual zzz stuff

[vocal sedge]

thats why bf1s lmgs worked so good because they werent accurate until you fired a few shots on them, so they werent better than smgs particularly but not super bad in cqc

they needed to become accurate after sometime so they werent exactly better than rifles when it came to like more accurate midrange gameplay

but they werent bad in anything it was like an all trick pony

[crimson gate]

All the guns play the exact same in bf6 its kinda lame. Theres no variation like you're talking about in bf1

[vocal sedge]

not exactly, they all still have cons and pros

[tropic spoke]

did the BR map actually leak?

didnt get to see it

[vocal sedge]

smgs melt people at close ranges but dont out ttk rifles when AR/carbines space them, smgs have faster reloads, faster ads times, larger mags to compensate

[severe moat]

Don’t play Battlefield 4

[vocal sedge]

AR's are better midrange but also decent at close range just not as fast ads and not as accurate hipfire with slower reloads, lmgs are bad in both currently

[acoustic plume]

its on battlefield reddit

[vocal sedge]

atleast if we compare beta AR's/Carbines/smgs to lmgs

[stable remnant]

battlefield subreddit. Theres a video

[vocal sedge]

slow ads, slow reload, dont have good hipfire dont have good midrange

[tropic spoke]

its unavailable cant see it

[stable remnant]

looks...uhhhhh

[crimson gate]

I never felt at a disadvantage at any range running an SMG during the beta

[tropic spoke]

how is there only 1 leaker for it? did it just come out in BF labs?

[vocal sedge]

i definitely wanted to be closer to people with an smg compared to AR's the damage drop of was definitely there

[stable remnant]

ooh swimming and diving confirmed

[vocal sedge]

but yes you could still kill people at like 20m fine its always been that way

[crimson gate]

I mean like 100m+

[acoustic plume]

will i get banned if i send a link for reddit

[vocal sedge]

youre judging distance wrong then

[crimson gate]

Not an issue tap firing with smg

[tropic spoke]

the video is taken down anyway

[acoustic plume]

ill dm you

i cant send you anything

[stable remnant]

doesnt look too exciting anyway

[tropic spoke]

oh right

[tropic spoke]

WAIT DID THEY DISABLE DMS HERE?

[vocal sedge]

yes

if you share or talk about leaks you get banned

[acoustic plume]

its your settings

[tropic spoke]

shit add me as a friend for a minute then send it then unfriend me after @acoustic plume

[vocal sedge]

its only 40 days til bf6 why even care about leaks atp

[acoustic plume]

this isnt anything of that nature, its my spotify playlist

[tropic spoke]

for reference the only leaks im referring to are the ones coming from pipes for water

[acoustic plume]

sent

[tropic spoke]

@acoustic plume try seeing if you can message anyone else in this server if not, its probably cus they stopped DMs between users which means you have to add them as a friend and stuff

[rich bear]

has there been a leak?

[clever imp]

I heard if you leak bf6 then john dice runs yo block and steals yo air fryer 😭

[hidden carbon]

I think the BR will be a good addition and fun

[rich bear]

I've come to the conclusion Conquest on BF is finished as most people dont PTFO so breakthrough is where the future is

even rank 300+ players on BFV not PTFO

[acoustic plume]

no wonder the bf6 maps look like shit, this map in fantastic

[main escarp]

I'm hoping the small- and mid-sized maps gain the most favor as the large ones are always so boring.

[swift fractal]

Last weekend i did! Are they gonna run it every weekend till it drops?

[rich bear]

Kill count and death count should be wiped away so people cant care about KDR and only if the team wins

[main escarp]

They will always care, even the people that try to pretend otherwise.

[rich bear]

KDR kids ruined this franchise

its about squad and teamwork

[tropic spoke]

I will always be an OBJ Score player

[vocal sedge]

fun fact they dont ptfo because they cant or dont kill anyone

[acoustic plume]

or just die alot

[rich bear]

why do they bother playing then when they can go and play leisure suit larry

[vocal sedge]

they also die because they dont or cant kill anyone so they lose gunfights meaning they lose map control and then lose objectives with it and lose when attacking objectives

[main escarp]

Because they paid just like you, eh?

[vocal sedge]

they should never touch fps games imo

[rich bear]

pay for something else you're more suited to

[tropic spoke]

Big ass maps typically solve the whole problem of people not PTFOing because its not some dense ass area where players are all in, you have to run and find enemies at the objective which means you are either defending or attacking

[vocal sedge]

should be perma banned for game grief

[main escarp]

Remember when Battlefield V had a big screen that said "play the way you want"? We do.

[rich bear]

or camping with a sniper rifle

[vocal sedge]

it makes it worse because it gives more areas for people to not do anything in

cairo for example is a good map because it pushes people to play into gunfights

[rich bear]

Exactly, remember BF2 or earlier?

[vocal sedge]

you cant camp anywhere particularly you cant like wander off into random parts of the map

[tropic spoke]

you dont want a BO6 bullet map and you dont want a BR size map sure

but the point is, Battlefield has historically struck the perfect balance

[vocal sedge]

no its been horrible ever since 4

large maps destroy infantry to vehicle balance heavily

[main escarp]

I do. And people voted with their wallets by buying later titles in the series that don't have all the downsides of BF2.

[tropic spoke]

I disagree here

[short peak]

Whole Lotta yapping in here

[hidden carbon]

Yeah, I don't find any new maps too remarkable

[vocal sedge]

go play golmund railway and come back to me

or sinai desert, or panzer storm

[tropic spoke]

when I say big, im saying i want maps sized like Gulf of Oman, Karkand, Dragon Valley, Zavod 311

[vocal sedge]

those arent big

[tropic spoke]

I do HATE Caspian Border though

[hidden carbon]

Caspian is good

[acoustic plume]

please keep caspian dice, thanks. like dont add to bf6

[tropic spoke]

i know, im just showing you what i meant by "big maps"

[normal echo]

just from what I saw on beta, give me Cairo and like 10 more maps like cairo.... Iberian was also solid..... but Lib peak was "meh" and NY was downright not good

[hidden carbon]

That's a strange way of talking

[main escarp]

Nosehair Canals 24x7 TDM with 2,000 tickets.

[acoustic plume]

comrad

[hidden carbon]

Yeah, I did that ha ha

[vocal sedge]

Cairo is what any bf map should be imo and yeah iberian was good too

al marj would be cool to have, propaganda would be cool, talah market would be cool, prise de tahure, marita

[normal echo]

just felt cairo struck the perfect balance for infantry where objectives where spread, but still runnable, vehicles had a role, but weren't super dominating, and the shooting lanes/flank angles/funnel points where well designed

[vocal sedge]

yeah exactly

and you didnt get shat on from like 400000 windows and 300000 different levels of building

[tropic spoke]

Cairo is just the inverse of Caspian Border, its also problematic

you want maps like Gulf of Oman and Karkand which are still a bit spread out

Cairo is too compact from how its layout looks and plays

they do have another Egypt map thats way better than it though

[velvet oar]

Is there any chance we can play in the labs by signing up now?

🙁

[acoustic plume]

40 more days

[velvet oar]

it's a long time

[rich bear]

I disagree with ibberian being good, its just a buch og grey alleys and a few buildings

[acoustic plume]

read a book

[vocal sedge]

the layout is good though? middle objective with 4 objectives in diamond shape around it have always played good

[hidden carbon]

"40 days and 40 nights" - Bible

[tropic spoke]

and Iberian Offensive is far worse, its too dense, again its that CoD-esque map design that Zampella should have not brought over to Battlefield, I get it for Titanfall and CoD but not BF

maps are meant to be spread out, buildings are meant to be a bit apart from each other

[vocal sedge]

you want the map to be dense in a 32v32 game lol

[short peak]

Any small map is a cod map you heard it here first

[tropic spoke]

best example of this is literally Gulf of Oman, that's how a BF map should be

[acoustic plume]

did you play bff3

[tropic spoke]

the opposite lol

[vocal sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069005729542979606/1408439973887217664/battledads-and-movelets-dont-celebrate-yet-v0-llylluwnvekf1.png?ex=68b59cf1&is=68b44b71&hm=8c45131880fda54b8d41ae870e6677f791961334f939262ea00bd61924c3be77&

[acoustic plume]

karkand was a great example of infantry. buildings dont need to be far

[short peak]

I wonder how eren would think about bazaar

[tropic spoke]

buildings in Karkand were more apart than the buildings in Cairo lol

[main escarp]

Close Quarters Conquest is where it's at. And Scavenger. And Gun Game. And TDM.

[vocal sedge]

if the maps are open and barrand youll just have 2042 maps all over again, sinai desert, golmund railway, panzer storm etc its just garbage to play lol

[acoustic plume]

i guess bf3 just did it well

[tropic spoke]

I actually like Bazaar for like an Infantry map sure, that's actually where I think they got the inspiration for Cairo

but we dont need just maps like Bazaar and Cairo, we need maps like Gulf of Oman and Dragon Valley lol

[rich bear]

none of which is battlefield

[vocal sedge]

youll die frome everywhere you never have a good spot to be at so you never have good control over your own gameplay

[short peak]

Maps too small, cod maps, maps too big, 2042 slop, truly incredible

[normal echo]

going onto the problem maps, im curious to see if they do any structural adjustment to empire state..... Haven't met a single person who liked that map yet.... and even as somone who prefers smaller/more action maps, I really didn't enjoy empire state

[acoustic plume]

i see your point though

[tropic spoke]

2042 is NOT the only game that done this 💀 and you are misrepresenting 2042's issues, it wasnt map size, it was map design and layout

[vocal sedge]

i know thats why i also named a map from bf1, bf4, bf5

[nova axle]

If 2042 didn't stack 2 objectives right by each other then another 2 miles away and you had cover then big maps are good

[vocal sedge]

and those are 1 of many examples lol

[tropic spoke]

like Orbital's problem wasnt that it was big, it was literally just empty and flat which was a nightmare for anyone who wasnt a sniper player

you can have big maps, they need to be designed properly that's the point

[vocal sedge]

then youll just have another bf5 where you find 1 engagement every hour

[compact sedge]

hi

[short peak]

Orbital flat.... he has to be trolling

[vocal sedge]

we are playing an fps game where we want to shoot and fight other players im not playing hide and seek with grass hoppers

[tropic spoke]

okay? do you want interactions like BO6 bullet? this isnt CoD bro lol

[acoustic plume]

i actually kinda like the close quarters engagment, but too much isnt battlefield.

[tropic spoke]

pre-rework lmao, look at the original version of Orbital

[vocal sedge]

apparently battlefield has been cod for so many years now, ever since 2011

[short peak]

Why would I talk about pre rework when it's not the current version who cares what it was

[nova axle]

That's my point though is having the objectives setup to where you can rotate pretty fast to them. Like liberation peak was only mid size but you never felt like you were playing run simulator

[willow lance]

COD is also always one tap to the body

[vocal sedge]

every year when a battlefield game comes everythings cod

[short peak]

Truly tiring

[tropic spoke]

no one has ever called BF3 and BF4 Call of Duty, at least from what i have seen, Battlefield is about Conquest mainly and its medium to large sized maps

Again, this isnt Call of Duty, its that way, to the door on your left

[short peak]

People saw sliding and fast fov movement and they blamed cod when games like quake did it 10 years earlier

[acoustic plume]

if they dont get these dlc's right, the next annual releases- we are screwed

[rich bear]

you cant say any of the maps showcased yet though are good surely, especially if you'f played the whole franchise

[vocal sedge]

internet was full of forums where people complained about dense and small map sizes and cried that this and that is cod

[main escarp]

They did in fact call it COD when those two releases came out.

[tropic spoke]

Battlefield is technically meant to move slow, this isnt Titanfall

[normal echo]

Just gonna point out that regardless of whatever BF WAS in the past, the beta was super well received for the kind of combat we had in beta... I think the older more bf purist people are gonna be in for a shock when new development ends up favoring more maps like Cairo than maps like Lib Peak

[short peak]

I didn't know you were the creative director for dice my bad

[vocal sedge]

i quarantee you that the same people spamming cod on reddit are the same people who spammed forums on bf3/4 being cod

[tropic spoke]

okay but in all fairness like i was 9 so i wouldnt read some internet forum

[nova axle]

Liberation peak was decent for a medium sized map.

[acoustic pumice]

Dice confirmed bf6 won't have ray tracing in future

[rich bear]

I actually agree with that

[short peak]

@vocal sedge "nobody called bf3/4 cod" 'actually yes they did", "okay well I was too young I wouldn't know"

[acoustic pumice]

Is bf6 finally gonna be the cod killer we want?

[acoustic plume]

its their conservative mark from relativeness, dont take it seriously

[tropic spoke]

i am being serious though lmao

[nova axle]

Cod is killing themselves especially if black ops 7 isn't similar to black ops 1-3

[hidden carbon]

I'm going to play both BF6 and the new COD

[tropic spoke]

do you think a 9 year old is browsing an internet forum? do you have a braincell?

[fossil veldt]

no one was comparing cod to bf3, cod was a lot more basic in 2011

[normal echo]

if B07 reception is any judge, it'll be both bf6 being good and B07 being bad

[short peak]

You said something you clearly didn't know then your excuse was you were too young

[main escarp]

And when BF3 came out there was a vocal minority that complained about the movement being faster but now days everyone looks back at BC1/BC2 as being clunky due to their movement mechanics.

[hidden carbon]

COD is included on Xbox lol

[acoustic pumice]

Bo7 preorder number is quite lower than usual

[acoustic plume]

I remember the E3 reveal like it was yesterday haha

[acoustic pumice]

It doesn't matter regardless, since bo7 is gonna be on gamepass so a lot of people are gonna play it anyway

[tropic spoke]

right but i played CoD back then too and BF, they didnt feel the same at all so i'd assume everyone would at least feel similar, again you arent proving you understand Battlefield's map design, you are changing the topic, the point is, Battlefield's maps should be designed like Gulf of Oman, Dragon Valley, Zavod 311, Karkand, etc

[main escarp]

It was amazing, wasn't it?

[acoustic plume]

gaming truely is great without knowing what internet forums are

[short peak]

Yes you feeling that they weren't similar at the age of 9 is sure proof that nobody else in the world compared cod to bf3 can you read what you're typing please like come on

[tropic spoke]

buildings are too densely pact in Cairo and Iberian Offensive, that's the problem, the map needs to be more spread out

[vocal sedge]

they would never play the same regardless of the map

[tropic spoke]

so are we going to go back to the main topic or are you deflecting because you cant counter-argue?

[nova axle]

If they incorporated every good mechanic from every battlefield it would be game of the year. Like levolution and the ships wrecking in battlefield 4

[short peak]

I'm not deflecting you got called out on a lie

[tropic spoke]

i dont care if they dont play the same, they should be designed like that and that is it, no one wants CoD map design

[vocal sedge]

i dont understand why anyone would ever want a map thats full of unreadable angles, verticality a map so open that it allows people to kill you from 800 meters

[hidden carbon]

Many countries have dense urban environments, though

[tropic spoke]

again are we gonna go back to the main topic about Battlefield map design or are we gonna keep coping?

[normal echo]

and yet those where the two most enjoyed maps on beta.... eventually D1CE is going to have to go where the fanbase wants

[stable remnant]

i can see why dice doesnt listen to us now

[short peak]

You're the only one coping here, the rest of us are having sensible points

[acoustic plume]

its the dads who have a 65inch

[main escarp]

We don't have COD map design. You are referring to a very specific 3-lane setup with that reference.

[tropic spoke]

they were enjoyable sure i actually dont deny that, but like those asking about where the big maps are, that's where im at

[vocal sedge]

yeah thats what they said in 2011 too

what else is new

[short peak]

Bro how would he know that he was 9

[tropic spoke]

again are we going to talk about the maps i mentioned and why they should be like that or are you going to pretend every map is Grand Bazaar? 😄

[tropic spoke]

i dont care what they said in 2011, thats how it should be and thats it lol

[short peak]

Yeah you can't explain how any bf6 map is cod style

[tropic spoke]

okay bud have a nice day 😄

[vocal sedge]

yeah thats what they said in 2011 too

[acoustic plume]

why

[hidden carbon]

I think COD has a different style

[tropic spoke]

yeah and i literally couldnt care less, i want my medium to big BF maps not just vehicles shoved in clearly infantry designed maps

[hard ravine]

What are there more people who won't be happy no matter what they do? lol

[tropic spoke]

nowadays yeah, way worse these days

[hidden carbon]

lol

[short peak]

That's why it feels really pointless engaging with some people you know it's not gonna go anywhere but sometimes you like to be optimistic

[hard ravine]

Didn't they already announce BF6 will have the biggest map in BF history?

[tropic spoke]

BO6 bullet was like the worst you can get lmao

[vocal sedge]

but cairo vehicles will play a lot better than vehicles compared to for example mercury or panzer storm lol

[tropic spoke]

Mirak Valley?

[acoustic plume]

what is the biggest map in bf history

[vocal sedge]

and thats all because the map isnt open and it doesnt allow vehicles to camp from the otherside of the map

[short peak]

Gotta be paracel storm no ?

[stable remnant]

they always say that

[normal echo]

if I remember right Mirak was close to the same size as one of the largest

[short peak]

Maybe bf3 golmud

[rich bear]

depends what mode you play in

[acoustic plume]

there is still an answer to be said

[vocal sedge]

you have clear routes and clear angles you need to hold with the tank you have good cover with the tank, literally a good map for vehicles

[rich bear]

Well its a rush map fore sure

[tropic spoke]

yeah but again Battlefield is about open maps dude, thats the point of the game, you are meant to feel like you are in a Battlefield, nothing wrong with the small infantry maps, im not saying they should go

But we still need the big maps, that's part of this franchise's DNA, changing that IS reducing it to Call of Duty Ground War levels is my point

[willow lance]

Cap, people were calling BF3 as COD, BF2 boomers specifically did

[hard ravine]

Yeah true. My only complain in beta was movement (they already said they nerfing movement) and TTK was a little slow (BF6 Labs is testing dedicated Hardcore Modes right now), and the smaller maps (pretty sure they anounced bigges map in BF history and Firestorm coming back) so I'm pretty damn happy where I come from lol

[acoustic plume]

i was thinking bandar desert from bf3

[vocal sedge]

we will have big maps they will play like ass though

[stable remnant]

where are all the fields

[hard ravine]

yeah especially after the BF3 Metro beta

[vocal sedge]

the map they posted in one of the photos already looks terrible

[tropic spoke]

well yeah my first BF game was BF2 (too young to play it at launch but it was still the first one i played when i was bit older)

[short peak]

Yeah I was fine with the movement changes I didn't care strongly one way or another

[normal echo]

there's also going to be a big shift I think from players new to the series looking at the giant maps, and running distance between objectives, then just blacklisting those maps

[tropic spoke]

they will play like ass for you but amazing for me, to each their own i guess, i wouldnt advocate against you having your smaller maps, but i dont think we should advocate against big maps either

[hard ravine]

Like what would actually make some of you guys happy though? Serious question. I feel like the only thing that would make some dudes happy is a BF3/4 remaster and add NOTHING.

[willow lance]

It might be good in BT tbh, I hated BT in all 4 maps we played

[short peak]

But people were being very disingenuous about why they wanted movement changes

[willow lance]

BT plays better in bigger maps imo

[hard ravine]

You didn't like Liberation Peak? I liked it

[willow lance]

BT is terrible in all the maps imo

[hidden carbon]

BT?

[acoustic plume]

Im sorry but mirak valley looks incrediably unbalanced. the 3 maps that go to the teams side on the left??

[willow lance]

Conquest was vastly better

[hard ravine]

yeah whats BT

[nova axle]

Breakthrough just had to many attackers sniping to make it fun when half of the attackers are sitting in spawn

[vocal sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093559356966043728/1411851434294771804/image.png?ex=68b6289c&is=68b4d71c&hm=0533607a43626216055d4442d292c694ec800fdc2e964f8c931523136dabff42& i dont think so

[tropic spoke]

dw rework coming soon like all the 2042 maps got 🤣

[main escarp]

BT is Breakthrough.

[hidden carbon]

Oh, Breakthrough

[vocal sedge]

white dots are going to be glints, therse like 6 different levels to the last building

[hard ravine]

ohhhh Breakthough... I personally think they should ditch that and refine Rush. Rush was EPIC in BF3 and I was one of the boomers against it at first

[vital gate]

Is bf labs still open since alpha?

[vocal sedge]

so cringe, they never learn when it comes to tall buildings with endless amount of windows

[hidden carbon]

Conquest until BF7

[willow lance]

They should both ditch BT and Rush imo, Frontlines is vastly better than both

[acoustic plume]

oh wow, i didnt think patches were operated on such a magnitude

[hard ravine]

Well, you guys gotta play Hardcore if you dont like glint. Or am I wrong did they still have glint in HC?

[acoustic plume]

shitters at dice

[normal echo]

They need to redesign empire state imo, that map felt bad on every game mode... And super bad on a few of them

[vocal sedge]

and then have fun playing towards that high building, half the enemy team will afk prone with scout rifles and sweetspot you while you cant do anything

[willow lance]

Empire State was good imo

[hidden carbon]

Glint is a function of magnification on scope, so HC mode would have glint

[hard ravine]

I've been defending BF6 like crazy but you are 100% right. That map SUCKED. Add destruction or something....

[nova axle]

Honestly If they give us some maps of all sizes and you can choose what you wanna play and theres cover and you aren't playing run simulator nobody can complain

[vocal sedge]

then have fun clearing that building because its going to be insanely camped

[hidden carbon]

f(glint)=mag>4

[main escarp]

The issue with Rush and Breakthrough is that Conquest map design generally doesn't work well with the other game modes.

[vocal sedge]

same for vise versa

[hard ravine]

Well they should add an option if you wanna rent a server to turn that off.

[short peak]

I think rush and breakthrough have a problem that lies more in the game mode than the map for balancing, obviously it's both but I think it's more of the game mode

[main escarp]

Indeed.

[hidden carbon]

"you don't see that" option

[vocal sedge]

the maps that we played in beta were imo obvious cq maps

[rich bear]

I had to google that due to my memory. I still cant fathom exactly how big it was though, I remember playing it.

[vocal sedge]

they should make BT specific and cq specific maps imo it would just be so much better to play

[hard ravine]

Snipers annoy tf out of me but I have a feeling I'll find a BF6 server that is as "milsim" as possible and call that home

[acoustic plume]

were there glints on zavod graveyard shift

[acoustic plume]

the best looking map imo

[hard ravine]

Mannn I forgot about Zavod. If there's an infantry map I love it's that and Karkand

[stable remnant]

i play with the hud off and go slow so i just want the friendly/enemy skins to stay recognisable. and the ping system barely works. Game modes are unimaginative and sad. Other than that i think its fine. If they cant figure out gunplay and movement by themselves idk what to say

[vocal sedge]

nah bf3 rush for example played insanely good and it was because they made bf3 maps specifically for rush

[main escarp]

Zavod at night was the bomb.

[rich bear]

they should have it where you aim iron sight and when you want to scope you open the flap on your scope and refine your aim

[short peak]

Yeah I guess

[acoustic plume]

close quarters, aftermath and karkand. my dlc wishlist

[tropic spoke]

They should defo bring back night operations

[stray owl]

Does anyone know the song that was played during the bf6 reveal trailer?

[stable remnant]

bob dylan no?

bob dylan bf6 remix

[stray owl]

Yeah but it was the bf3 theme with like another song or smth

[hard ravine]

I just want to see Damavand, Kharg Island, Karkand, Gulf of Oman, Zavod, damn Im missing some lol. Soooo many good maps

[short peak]

How about we see new maps why do people want old maps so bad lol

[rich bear]

Theres been many good maps in BF history

[tropic spoke]

Gulf of Oman should defo return

[rich bear]

Areca harbour on rush was one of my favourites also on conquest

[stable remnant]

yes. Bob Dylan master of war. just type bob dylan bf6 remix, it will be the first result

[acoustic plume]

man dont get me going. what a fantastic time. i hope those talented devs are doing well haha

[hard ravine]

shit I forgot about that map too, awesome

[stray owl]

Alright thanks!

[vocal sedge]

I might play a lot of domination in bf6 it was really good tbh

[rich bear]

but theres a BFBC2 map I forget the name of which is also a fond memory albeit a vague one

[acoustic plume]

panama canal?

[hard ravine]

This is why Portal was the most dropped game mode of all time. They had something that was GUARUNTEED money in that, and they fumbled.... HARD

[short peak]

The only bc2 map I recall is where you deploy in little army desert base there's 2 tanks next to each other then go out and blow stuff up

[acoustic plume]

its weird psychology. i guess old map inspired

[nova axle]

If portal is like halo reach forge I'm never leaving battlefield again

[vocal sedge]

Majority of old maps are pretty terrible tbh

[short peak]

Old map inspired is better I guess, I just get bored of having the same map every time, give them the opportunity to make the next golmud or firestorm you know what I mean

[tropic spoke]

we also need like a mostly interior based infantry map like Operation Locker in Battlefield 6

Redacted was that for 2042

[vocal sedge]

And majority of older maps wouldnt even play good with bf6 mechanics and balance

[nova axle]

Old maps are just safe for them to make and they're iconic

[acoustic plume]

what a statement

[short peak]

That was a rumor

[rich bear]

no it had a river running alongside it, there were a lot of single storey buildings near the end you could jump through or in rush mode go across roof's

[hard ravine]

No it was posted by an exec. But it was one guy so it's not likely. It was what he wanted to see. But you get enough people like him calling the shots, and you get another COD

[short peak]

Nope it was a rumor by a journalist said he interviewed the guy who "CLAIMED" that he said that

[nova axle]

If bf6 goes well then it can go on for 5 years like every other game now days. Just make money off cosmetics like everyone else

[hard ravine]

Well I'll be damned then. I hope you're right. Because besides hearing that crap I feel like they have actually been listening and doing well.

[nova axle]

CSGO, overwatch, Fortnite etc

[tropic spoke]

lol no, we need Battlefield 7 like at least 2 to 3 years after

[acoustic plume]

im thinking of oasis

[hard ravine]

Just keep it realistic and I'd be buying them to support the game. Kinda like how Squad added emotes

[tropic spoke]

Fortnite has cooked the brains of many

[vocal sedge]

They should stay on 6 for 5 years imo

[nova axle]

If they improve on the game constantly and the community loves it enough then they won't have to

[vocal sedge]

It just has such wide range of content on it and the game runs really good

[tropic spoke]

i dont think BF6 will have that long of a lifecycle, depends, if they go and do Battlefront 3 after then probably

[short peak]

You don't think that based on what

[nova axle]

Like imagine if battlefield 6 has hundreds of fans made maps that are great then nobody will wanna leave

[rich bear]

yes

[hard ravine]

Depends how well this Battle Royale goes too. I'm honestly excited about that, because if it weren't for Firestorm being WW2, I think it would have been big

[vocal sedge]

2042 had a 4 year life cycle and it has like 1/4th of the content bf6 will have lol

[nova axle]

2042 had a 3-4 year lifecycle and it sucked

[steel sundial]

at least they dont have p2w gambling crates for perma-buffs

[stable remnant]

yet

[tropic spoke]

ok listen, maybe i played the franchise since BF2? maybe think dummy? how many Battlefield games do we have? 18 right? how old is the franchise? 23 years, now do the math

[hard ravine]

2042 shouldnt even have Battlefield's name on it

[tropic spoke]

nor should Hardline imo

[hard ravine]

it has tainted it. I agree, but Hardline at least played good

[tropic spoke]

again i think it depends on what they want to do next

[willow lance]

I doubt Battlefront 3 will ever happen

[short peak]

Is there 18 battlefield games ? Holy I missed a couple lmfao (this is sarcasm)

[tropic spoke]

same, im hoping Titanfall gets tried

[nova axle]

2042 might of sucked but they had to add to it because it was so bad. Imagine if they added all that to a good battlefield

[vocal sedge]

Its like what 24 year old franchise

[steel sundial]

2142 was worse than 2042

[vocal sedge]

Pretty crazy tbh

[hard ravine]

HOW

[short peak]

Yes but there's not 18 battlefield games only 13

[tropic spoke]

bro doesnt know, if we dont count the spinoffs, its 15, but the spin offs counted, its 18, there's a Battlefield game typically 2 - 3 years, its based off common sense dude

[willow lance]

2142 has functional mouse input

[hard ravine]

I am guessing you never played Titan Mode

[vocal sedge]

And better maps

[hard ravine]

I wish I got to play 2142 more

[acoustic plume]

Please dice please, release Bad Company 3 before this annual release window. Phuck every other game haha

[vocal sedge]

I remember playing it on my dads computer

[willow lance]

Unique modes too, carrier assault isn't the same as titan assault

[nova axle]

You showed up to have the worst battlefield take. Worse then xqc

[tropic spoke]

Bad Company 3 could defo come out 2027/2028 if Battlefield 6 does well

[short peak]

Lmfao

[hollow harbor]

medic player that cannot change his playstyle type of opinion fr fr 🤡

[hard ravine]

Imagine BF6 has 5 year lifecycle but they release Bad Company campaign "Chapters" every year.

[main escarp]

Battlefield 2143: Bad Company 3. That's the future.

[tropic spoke]

Definitely

[tight prism]

i miss bf6💔

[acoustic plume]

you might have just did something

[hard ravine]

Why do I not make big decisions at EA?

[short peak]

@hollow harbor Help this anime watcher has been baiting for 45 minutes

[hollow harbor]

unc he got both consoles 😭

[tropic spoke]

bros coping cus he came from CoD and he's still crying

[vocal sedge]

Nah its just a terrible map outright

[main escarp]

You almost make that sound like a bad thing. Almost.

[short peak]

He said bf6 will have a 2 year life cycle

[tropic spoke]

How long was Battlefield 1's life cycle again? you know the best selling BF :DDDD

[vocal sedge]

Long corridors nothing between them uninteresting gameplay tank is so free to farm in that map its just depressingly boring

[acoustic plume]

this BR is elongating it by another 7 years

[hard ravine]

Are any of you on PC? How did the beta run for you? I get like 30-40fps on Stalker 2. But hopped on Battlefield 6 Beta with an i5 11400, 32GB RAM, and a lowly RTX4060 and got 100+fps on medium settings

[tropic spoke]

and what if the BR fails?

[vocal sedge]

40000 windows

[hollow harbor]

i cannot put myself subject to his baits he has both console tags 💀

[acoustic plume]

3

[short peak]

I'm getting too old for this the young bloods are getting better

[tropic spoke]

I can agree with you there ngl

[slate wigeon]

like a fucking dream tbh, 9800x3d and 5070 ti 1440p, easy near 200

[hollow harbor]

yeah you're just too distracted which to preaim with your DMR

[tight prism]

i dont think it will cause if its like firestorm it should be alright

[hollow harbor]

but noooo the 27486 rocks in achi baba is totally not the same principle

[tropic spoke]

2028 does feel like the right time for something new, if the BR fails, Battlefield 2143 or Bad Company 3

[hard ravine]

oh yeah i forgot I was on 1440p as well. Well damn man. First beta ever than was optimized then? lol

[nova axle]

If the br fails then that's more resources for the actual game

[short peak]

HE SAID 2143

[hollow harbor]

we need more training to keep up unc

[tropic spoke]

they wouldnt do that though, they want to make more Battlefield games, wasnt there a thing about annual BF releases (thats terrible though) but BF is typically 2 - 3 years given no problems

[slate wigeon]

felt like it, at least to me

[short peak]

I'm tapping out of this absolute insanity

[hard ravine]

Bro I've been playing BFV to bide my time before BF6 along with Helldivers 2. And I SUCK at BF5. I dunno man the mouse feels so wierd

[tropic spoke]

we actually had 2 Battlefield games release a year apart once

Hardline and Battlefield 1 are just a bit over a year apart, March 2015 to October 2016 iirc

[hollow harbor]

if unc is tapping out , i wouldn't dare tune in

[tropic spoke]

Visceral Games made Hardline while DICE made Battlefield 1

[acoustic plume]

might dice be that agile moving on their feet or will they stick to a static money plan before the next project

[tight prism]

whats so bad abt that

[vocal sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093559356966043728/1411856837535338546/image.png?ex=68b62da5&is=68b4dc25&hm=8e9d2db5488ae91df68ffbc96789e41059b799e2104929a1aaa44937094fdc06& mightve missed a few corridors with nothing between them not sure

[tropic spoke]

he's pretending he's a BF fan and fumbling, ignore him

[short peak]

Brodie they are not making 2142 sequel to be 2143 can we be serious for a minute

[nova axle]

Well I would hope they learn because Call of duty has told them exactly what not to do at this point

[hollow harbor]

he has his twitter account tagged to his discord 😭

[hard ravine]

Yep this, but I dont hate Hardline. I dont think it should have been a BF title, but still a reeeeallly good game

[tight prism]

ohhhhh alr alr

[hard ravine]

at least hes not on bluesky XDXD

[tropic spoke]

Hardline was good yeah, it just sucks it was given the Battlefield name

[rich bear]

it's not just dice these days it's ripple effect and 2 othe rdevs

[short peak]

You couldn't come close to my stats in bf6 or 2042 lil man

[nova axle]

Look at black ops 6. They focused on warzone and it fucking sucked because of it

[tropic spoke]

REAL