battlefield-6

[dim bramble]

I hope it will. Some of my favourite memories from bf4 come from lurking in the pools in seine crossing with a suppressed pistol

[plucky dawn]

One of the trailers had some boats in it. Probably from single player. But I bet multiplayer aquatic maps will come after launch eventually. Not sure about underwater diving though. That would be neat. BF1942 had submarines.

[tame mortar]

I'm pretty sure you can do a small dive

Unless you mean water diving

[dim bramble]

I don't need something as big as submarines. just swimming below the water surface would be nice

sneaky swimming, you know?

[tame mortar]

Don't think there is any map currently and in the full release that features swimming, so maybe in a future dlc

[plucky dawn]

Post launch content most likely

[tame mortar]

I'm leaving it up to the portal community to hopefully make amazing maps or remakes

[plucky dawn]

We still don’t know for sure how much freedom map creation will be though. I’m not getting my hopes up yet.

Or what the limits are

[stable remnant]

i touched the water in Empire State and i'm about 78% sure it reacted to my foot if thats any help

[tame mortar]

From the looks of it it's pretty flexible, but we don't know how big you can make the maps or if you can add assets like an essex or not

[plucky dawn]

Water physics confirmed!

[tame mortar]

I just hope someone makes strike at karkhand in portal or even sharqi peninsula, but i don't want to get my hopes up with this map creation tool, it might really suck

[plucky dawn]

I have a feeling it won’t have the complete freedom to create entire maps. But more or less add/remove assists and some geometry changes to preset template maps. But we shall see

[west stratus]

Does anyone know/have confirmation if BF6 is going to get different EOR music for every map(like BFV, BF1, BF2042) or is it going to just be the same track for every map?

[tame mortar]

Not really sure

[stable remnant]

I remember Farcry on the 360 having a terrain editor. If this had a terrain editor that would be the first thing they'd show.

[tall zinc]

from memory the open beta had different music per map

[tame mortar]

Yeah that's my fear, it might just be an asset spam type of thing on existing maps and you won't be able to make new ones entirely, idk why they don't give more info on portal

[reef elk]

That map was in bf3 not 4 lol

[tame mortar]

But, knowing the battlefield community they will still make those 2000% dmg multiplier no bullet spread servers

[plucky dawn]

Im really happy there will be options like forced NO HUD, forced no sprinting, damage modifiers, and stuff like that. Hardcore servers are going to be alot of fun. Thats what im looking forward to the most.

[tame mortar]

There will obviously be those types of modifiers, we already seen it from official news on their twitter, the question is how in depth is the map maker

I want people to make or remake maps, i don't want to play the same map but with modifiers enabled, this will be exactly like 2042 and its gonna get boring quick

[sacred arch]

I want to know if my rig is good fir bf 6: rtx 3080 , 16gb ram , i9 9900k ?

[tame mortar]

Yes you're fine

[tall zinc]

resolution?

[tame mortar]

You're cpu is beefy compared to your gpu tho pretty sure

[stable remnant]

i can already see all the death hallway maps. Like Operation Metro but made out of cubes. and in the dark.

[sacred arch]

2560x1440

[reef elk]

Then we shall be the odd ones out and make servers worth playing on lol

[tame mortar]

You'll get like 100+ fps for sure

Not a stable 160 tho I wouldn't say

[stable remnant]

people can be very artistic with cubes

[sacred arch]

Hope so beta not running so good on ultra

[plucky dawn]

It will be a lot more than 2042. BF6 will have the Godot editor for map editing. 2042 didn’t have that.

[tall zinc]

for 1440p yes it's fine, don't be expecting top of the line performance, you should get around 80 frames on average

[tame mortar]

On my 5070ti I was running low on the same resolution and I was going between 190 fps and sometimes down to 170 lol

[reef elk]

I do not doubt that though I am one of the players looking for a true battlefield experience

[tall zinc]

those are 2 very different tiers of GPU lol

[tame mortar]

I know, im just letting him know to make a comparison

[tall zinc]

5070ti is about double the performance of a 3080

[short peak]

ur not running 100+ frames on 1440p on a 3080

[tame mortar]

That's why I said he will probably get 100+ fps for sure

[tall zinc]

he won't, it will be under

[sacred arch]

And hooe they better optimize game

[tame mortar]

No way he's getting under 100 fps on all low settings

[tall zinc]

a 9060xt does not achieve 100 frames and that is way ahead of a 3080 for rasterisation

[short peak]

oh on low yea maybe

[tame mortar]

My friend on a 3060 ti is getting 90 fps stable

[plucky dawn]

Easily achievable with lower settings. There’s a lot of graphics settings in BF6

[sour copper]

spending 50 bucks to get 16 more gigs of ram is gonna make your entire gaming life better.

[tall zinc]

he said ultra, this is a very specific tier of league

[plucky dawn]

I missed that part

[tall zinc]

at ultra and 1440p 100 will not be achieved, it will be in the 70-80 range

[tame mortar]

On ultra i would say 60 fps

[sacred arch]

So it will ve playable

[short peak]

I doubt 80 on ultra but idk how much heavy lifting that 9900k will do

[tall zinc]

playable yes but keep your expectations in check

[sour copper]

ya your 3080 will be fine

[sacred arch]

Better set shadows and other think on med or low

[tall zinc]

https://tpucdn.com/review/battlefield-6-open-beta-performance-benchmark/images/bf6_1440.png

[sour copper]

I just think we've passed the threshold of 16gigs not being enough anymore

[tame mortar]

In what world, im getting 180 fps on low settings

[short peak]

32gb vram lmaooooooooooooo

[tall zinc]

did you not read the top?

[frank dust]

40 days until battlefield 6. What are you all doing to pass the time??

[tame mortar]

Yes? Same resolution and low settings im getting the same as ultra, doesn't make sense

[sour copper]

that 5090 is insane wtf lol

[plucky dawn]

Trying to stay sane

[sacred arch]

Where are the times where you buy top high end pc for 1500 $

[tame mortar]

Or am I missing something

[tall zinc]

then you're CPU bottlenecked lol

[sacred arch]

Now are pc's like buying the cars lol

[tame mortar]

I'm barely reaching 200 fps on my 5070ti

[tall zinc]

this test is done with a 9800x3d to remove CPU bottlenecks

[sour copper]

I got a pc with a 4080 for $2500

[tame mortar]

Ah makes sense, I got the stupid intel i9 14900kf

Should've gotten an amd cpu

[sacred arch]

Just wana know that gaming is luxus

[tall zinc]

you can't run this game on linux

[plucky dawn]

I use DLDSR and render the game at 5160x2160. Using frame gen and Locking the FPS to 120. It looks beautiful.

[tame mortar]

I really want to reach that stable 200 fps on low settings but idk what I can do

[tall zinc]

there isn't anything you can do other than getting a new processor really

[short peak]

I was on a medium / low

[tall zinc]

getting a 5090 will have no impact on your performance once you become CPU bottlenecked

oddly intel processors have about a 25% performance degradation for some reason

[plucky dawn]

No but you’d be able to super sample the hell out of it and have a very crisp clean image. That’s what I’m doing.

[tall zinc]

meh that's a different goal from those who're wanting extreme frames

[plucky dawn]

Fair. That’s true.

[tall zinc]

I use dldsr aswell

[tame mortar]

Apparently there was an article done on this and the 14900k had a slight edge compared to the 9800x3d?

[tall zinc]

nah it performs worse

[tame mortar]

Yeah i just seen that on reddit but people saying it got debunked

[tall zinc]

arrow lake for gaming is just strictly worse for games which rely on massive caches like battlefield or world of warcraft etc unfortunately compared to zen 5

[plucky dawn]

And Tarkov. That game is night and day difference when using 3D cache CPUs

[tall zinc]

anything at 3440x and below is CPU bound from the getgo on a 5080 or above class tier anyways for battlefield 6

which is why at 4k you have this result https://tpucdn.com/review/battlefield-6-open-beta-performance-benchmark/images/bf6_2160.png

[short peak]

I'd like a 12700 and a 5070 as my next upgrade

[tame mortar]

Maybe in the full game the i9 will perform better?

Surely there is some improvements that can be done, the performance shouldn't be THIS bad

[tall zinc]

unclear, Intel's comments about APO are rather murky, but don't expect it to match a 9800x3d more or less

APO may bring up the regression but the % on that is anyone's guess

[tame mortar]

I just looked at a video and the 9800 is getting like 230 fps on average and the i9 like 170 wtf is this

Now I do regret getting the 14900kf

[tall zinc]

yeah about a 30% difference give or take

[plucky dawn]

X3D cache makes a big difference in some games.

[tall zinc]

APO will bring up that average but it'll probably only be about to 200 or so

[tame mortar]

Yeah nothing i can do now

Stupid intel

[tall zinc]

NVL luckily is looking like an excellent processor next year

[plucky dawn]

What is that

[tall zinc]

nova lake, Intel's next architecture coming out next year

[viscid flax]

https://youtu.be/BoUJ6LG-u4Y?si=tFOE7fbaBS58H2RF

[plucky dawn]

Hmmmm I was debating switching to AMD next.

[tall zinc]

do not switch right now

medusa is coming out as is nova lake next year you will regret it

[short peak]

if i do a rebuild I'll try amd but I think I'll stick with intel for now

[tall zinc]

I'll be getting rid of my 9800x3d for nova lake once it comes out these platform issues are just way too annoying

[tame mortar]

I might need to change some settings in my bios or something to squeeze the juice out of that i9 to even somewhat match the performance of the 9800

[short peak]

how are the new intel processors looking

[tall zinc]

you will not match a 9800x3d, dont try

[languid aurora]

I'm going to just use a 7800X3D with 9070xt for 1080p

[tame mortar]

I just need at least a stable 200 fps

[tall zinc]

excellent, 52 cores on consumer platforms will exist

[short peak]

wdym 52 cores lol

[tame mortar]

I should be getting at least 200 stable fps on my rig, but with the right settings in my bios

[tall zinc]

a processor you can buy that has literally, 52 cores

[languid aurora]

Terrible, long time Intel CPU fan but they are totally lost now

[plucky dawn]

My 12900k is STARTING to reach its limit for me. Luckily I’m more of a graphics nerd than a FPS chaser. So I don’t need insane fps is games. I want the best possible image quality and resolution 1st. fps 2nd.

[short peak]

shits gonna be like $800

[tall zinc]

yeah and that's cheap for consumer platforms for that core count lol

9800's are 8 and they are selling for 500 or so

[normal echo]

yall are making my old below the game's min requirements (but still ran well in beta) rig, feel bad

[tall zinc]

medusa will be a 12 core configuration per ccx this time round rather than 8 but you still get the usual AMD shenanigans

[short peak]

whats medusa

[tall zinc]

medusa is zen 6, medusa being the architecture name

[tame mortar]

For me it's the opposite lol, I want the best possible fps and if I got below 200 fps constantly on low settings I start to trip out

[plucky dawn]

An evil god

[normal echo]

was hoping to build a new setup by cyber monday, when are these next gen of chips/cards coming out? I usually go state of the art so I can avoid building a system for as long as possible

[tall zinc]

they will not be out till next year

medusa may be longer nova lake is confirmed for 2026

[short peak]

interesting

[tall zinc]

you get your usual catches with whatever you go with and AMD's currently are too frustrating for me to deal with so I'll be getting it

[plucky dawn]

Depends on the game for me. A game like BF6 I don’t need insane fps like I would want in a game like COD that’s a lot more competitive. I enjoy BF6 for its cinematic beauty. The game feels like a war movie.

[short peak]

so intel is gonna be big for processors next year

[tall zinc]

should be yes

the cluster design for the 52 core config is a 26+26 layer, amd's will only be 12 each

[short peak]

I dont understand how they just go from 12 to 52

[tall zinc]

it doesn't have any hyperthreading and it's littered with e cores

[plucky dawn]

E cores. Gross

[tall zinc]

no they're good actually

[short peak]

so realistically how good will it be for gaming

[tall zinc]

should be close to whatever medusa achieves in gaming performance

[plucky dawn]

I got all 8 of my e cores turned off. Had more problems than not with them.

[tall zinc]

yeah that's because the ipc for them sucks, but not with nvl

[short peak]

I mean worse case I'll wait for the medusa one if thats gonna be better for gaming

surely a processor with 52 cores will be future proof for quite some time

[tall zinc]

it'll be strictly better because the 8 class tier will be 12 cores rather than 8 cores this time round, so, it will be at a minimum

the 52 core config is intel, amd will max to 24

[short peak]

well finally I can stop listening to intel slander

[tall zinc]

albeit* it'll have hyperthreading

the cluster design unfortunately means amd's will be strictly worse for any sort of productivity and gaming workload combinations at once but eh oh well

[plucky dawn]

Which one will have the fastest single core speeds. I want that

[tall zinc]

not sure

[short peak]

I am worried for the price tag lol

[cold panther]

operation fire storm and mirak valley will save bf 6

[tall zinc]

IPC results are too early, but for context AMD upgraded zen 6's ccx design to 12, it was only supposed to be 8 after they became aware of nova lake

competition is good for consumers is the tldr

[tame mortar]

I just hope they optimised their game better for the release

[plucky dawn]

And these will still fit in AM5 slot right?

[tall zinc]

ehh the current murmuring is yes it will be on the am5 socket but not 100% for that

there's some vague wording that it'll be on am5 but a new board gen so dunno

[bold sun]

I WANT OPERATION METRO 24/7!!!!!!!!!!!!

[plucky dawn]

BF6 is one of the more optimized games I’ve played in a quite a long time. Especially with all the chaos that goes on on screen.

My buddies 3060 ran it really good he said. Which isn’t the case for alot of other newer games

[tall zinc]

as far as performance goes yes it's very well executed

[short peak]

idk if I'd go as far to say that it was super optimized it was good but my cpu was struggling

[tame mortar]

Yeah i get that, but there is definitely some improvements that can be done, especially on that intel performance, I believe a 10-15% increase can be achieved

[tall zinc]

they cannot avoid the CPU grinder "issue", it's inherit to the game design really

it's just a heavy simulation game

[plucky dawn]

I don’t think there’s going to be much optimization between the beta and launch

[tame mortar]

They can make some improvements though, surely there is something they can do to make it slightly better

[short peak]

probably not I'd like a bit less cpu strain if possible

88c is pretty high

[tall zinc]

which processor?

[short peak]

its a 12400f and I know they can go to 100c that doesnt mean I want it there

[tall zinc]

you do actually, it's wasted otherwise if it doesnt

[short peak]

no I dont I dont have air condition and it makes my room hot as hell

[tall zinc]

12400f is quite power limited by default tbh

the heat of the processor doesn't mean that is the heat being outputted to the room

[plucky dawn]

Then you may need a new cooler for your CPU. Are you running a 360 water cooler radiator? With fans wide open? That’s what I’m doing.

[short peak]

brother I was literally sitting in sweat when I was playing bf6 I can feel the heat in my room lol but I know what you're saying

[tall zinc]

is your room ambient already high?

[short peak]

during the summer its decent

[plucky dawn]

What kind of CPU cooler are you using?

[short peak]

my beautiful 12400f stock cooler

[tall zinc]

yeah that'd explain it I guess, summer times you're already really heating up the processor just by the average, but consider a decent cooler

intel stock ones are terrible and they even removed it

[plucky dawn]

A good CPU cooler makes a huge difference

[tall zinc]

you don't need anything fancy ones at like $40 will make a big difference

[short peak]

yeah I think I was gonna get one and then honestly forgot

then 3 years passed

[sand spear]

If I preorder the phantom edition will I also get the pre order things too

[graceful cove]

Hey guys

@sand spear yes

[spare socket]

The game is pretty well optimized tbh.

It’s largely just bug fixes and balance changes for launch

[plucky dawn]

I agree.

[spare socket]

I swear man I feel like the internet calls out anything with organization or a format as ai these days 💀

It’s making me lose my mind as someone that makes organized discussion points regarding certain topics.

There’s literally sites like GPTzero to check for this

[icy rock]

One of the worse maps but would still be the best one on 2042

[placid hare]

Sup guys what do we think of the ladder feature footage?

[placid hare]

Don't you dare preorder

[sand spear]

Well I really want to blow up a building to kill one sniper so…

[olive basalt]

game devs will STILL only use like, 1 core anyway. Probably. Thanks, UE5 👏

[sand spear]

I think it has potential

[maiden fog]

what’s the best battlefield right now?

[placid hare]

Got a better engine? Pretty sure most are like that for whatever reason

[olive basalt]

Too late, I'm all in
If it sucks, then that's my cross to bear

[maiden fog]

is bf5 and bf4 better than 2042?

[olive basalt]

Neither of those give rewards for BF6, you tell me!

[maiden fog]

excluding bf6

what’s the best game 😭 I’ve only played BF2042, and it was okay

[placid hare]

Sorry bud, 2042 is peak BF

[olive basalt]

Actually, why not? Go ahead. The more people playing legacy titles means less people grinding the BF6 rewards in 2042, meaning they will be more prestigious and exclusive in the long run. I encourage ALL new players to hop on BF4, BF1, BFV, whatever!

[dusty slate]

will new intel have 3d cache

[coral flame]

wait

this game releases on a monday?

[gleaming cape]

hot take :people complaining about unlocked weapons seems like a skill issue to me

[autumn sand]

Friday, October 10

[coral flame]

it's like people who complain that nowadays all street fighter characters have a hadouken

like so what? it evens the playing field
yes zangief having a hadouken makes no sense but it's a balance matter

and we know with open weapons people won't just all use the exact same weapon on every loadout, that's not what players do

[gleaming cape]

yup , it makes you be wary of everything, not just go "oh its a medic , I can double fist him easy with my 50 round assault rifle"

[restive robin]

honestly whats the point of closed weapons if everyone has carbines and dmrs? closed weapons isn't even closed weapons.

[serene smelt]

Seems like more of a class balance thing to me

[placid hare]

They should just take the DMRs out lol

[serene smelt]

They can make up for it with other stuff but if recon only has snipers going for it but everyone can snipe then recon just sucks

[molten halo]

Hey do we know if the m7 will be in bf6? It would be dumb if it isn't but the m4 still is

[restive robin]

yeah i play stealth recon. literally if recon was locked to sniper that would ruin 50% of the class

[placid hare]

Wait till you hear about what they did to recon in literally every other BF...

[coral flame]

well yes I play stealth recon, stealth engineer, stealth support and stealth assault
because I can use the exact same weapon for all 4

[serene smelt]

Yeah people complaining are more interested in the traditional class balance

Which is super fair

[molten halo]

In bf4 the medic could have a carbine, in 2042 anyone can have anything

[restive robin]

doesn't even matter. they are pretty much ruining it for me anyway by taking the insertion beacon away

[safe yew]

class balances dont matter when theres an option to play traditional. you dont have to play it

[coral flame]

also I remember in the beta I would just spamclick the defib and revive people that way
what was the advantage of charging it?

[molten halo]

Is the bf4 paper airplane back? Or quadrotors? Any drone combat at all considering the way Ukraine is going?

[serene smelt]

Dividing the player base could be a bad move but we shall see

Not inherently against the idea of unlocked weapons but I think they should pick one

[coral flame]

as people said "traditional" still gives the carbines to every class

[serene smelt]

Yeah I think that’s the best move

[coral flame]

and carbines are basically your run and gun standard point and click weapon in every modern shooter

[safe yew]

theres enough peopel thatll play that it wont have an effect beyond sharing k/ds to flex. Thats jsut my opinion

[serene smelt]

What do you mean flexing k/ds

[safe yew]

like sharing their stats

[serene smelt]

Yeah it probably won’t hurt the game

But It just seems over complicated I would personally prefer just one playlist

[safe yew]

the only way i can see it effecting anything is if they see more people playing open weapons and put way too much into a battle royale

instead of focusing in the traditional, hold locations game elements

[coral flame]

bruh don't mention the br
why is it even a thing

[serene smelt]

I’m hyped to be honest

[safe yew]

its gonna happen, especially if cod7 or w/e its called goes to crap

[lucid mist]

it'd be stupid for them not to capatilize on the warzone fatigue

[placid hare]

What's wrong with battle royal legit question

[serene smelt]

I would love to play a good bf battle royale, the team is big enough where they have the resources to pull it off

[coral flame]

next up we're gonna get zombies too

[lucid mist]

already shown in portal

[safe yew]

nothign. but the thing is, they might focus on BR and put the bulk of their team on doing maps and stuff for BR if it becomes the most popular

[coral flame]

it might end up like firestorm, barely played

[lucid mist]

yeah thats exactly what they're probably gonna do eventually

you dont develop a game from the ground up with 1000s of people and just not use those people to continue the live service

it inherintly takes more people to redesign an entire battle royale map compared to a few regular conquest maps

[serene smelt]

I feel like they can sell this better than firestorm the hype is insane and this is gonna be free. Firestorm was paid

[lucid mist]

I feel like people have this strange idea that battle royales can't be fun

theres a reason why fortnite became so popular and it's not because of ice spice being in the game

[coral flame]

they are fun

but they are overdone and they are not perfect game modes, they have a lot of tedium and comes with a lot of baggage

I enjoyed my time in PUBG, but I also remember all the bad aspects of the battle royale game mode

[serene smelt]

There is definitely a niche for them considering war zone is so ass now

[lucid mist]

whos to say that can't switch it up a little?

battlefield vehicles mixed with infantry gameplay sounds awesome for a battle royale, and not the fake borderline useless fortnite vehicles, the real, gritty, grounded battlefield vehicles we all lvoe so much

[past jasper]

Also kd flexing doesn't really work in bf imo since you can farm kd by being a vehicle main

[safe yew]

im sure theyre banking of pulling poeple from tarkov etc for a BR on BF6

it'd be silly not to try to pull players and get that money, but it doesnt mean i support it

[serene smelt]

Not Tarkov lol

[flat blaze]

Not without an engineer they cant.

[lucid mist]

battle royale has been overdone but it has tons of potential still

[past jasper]

Doesn't matter, they will still have vastly better kd than infantry players

And with actual competent vehicle team it is so easy to have like 30+kd

[safe yew]

id like a BR style map with like, 4 teams of 16. thatds something id be into. but like, 4 person squads with the ring closing and shit, not my jam

[lucid mist]

my biggest concern is how balance will be separated between BR and all-out-warfare

balance is really hard to get right with even a single gamemode

[past jasper]

Also heli player

[serene smelt]

Seems like that would be fun as a game mode but not as the main experience. It wouldn’t have the tension that people want in a BR

[past jasper]

Mode specific balancing can be a thing and it has already been done in other games

[serene smelt]

That’s what made Fortnite so fun

[lucid mist]

with portal I'm sure this can be done 🤷‍♂️

[safe yew]

i was thinking the same thing

[lucid mist]

oh it absolutely will be used, but even then its hard to know how much difference you want between your modes

[vagrant surge]

Btw, bf6 maps too small and as a franchise bf always has such a disappointing lack of vehicle variety and actual playable amount in matches and bf6 doesn't appear to be fixing it (never played any bf game, btw)

[past jasper]

Such a real opinion from a non bf player

[lucid mist]

should shotguns still be onetap?

how will TTK be affected by armor pickups?

should BR vehicles have the ability to hunt players?

there are so many questions that need to be pondered for every little detail

[long bolt]

more vehicles in one match, that would just be world of tanks

[past jasper]

If you want actual large scale gameplay you shall seek planetside, it is still somewhat alive

[serene smelt]

Bf labs was such a good move for this reason

[safe yew]

what i would love to see is a heli thats just a personnel carrier. somehting you can drop in on a location thats basically made of paper, so its a bit of a gamble if you get there, but if you do, you got 4-5 people on a location out of nowhere

[vagrant surge]

It'd be better bf

[past jasper]

I mean that's basically cos heli

[lucid mist]

yeah thats basically just the gunships in 2042 minus the guns

[long bolt]

thats just as bad as people wanting bf to be more like cod X)

[past jasper]

I mean bf tank gameplay is pretty arse

[safe yew]

didnt play more than an hour of 2042. wasnt hapopy with it

[lucid mist]

yeah the gunships were actually a really cool mechanic, too bad they were basically useless because of how easy they were to kill

[past jasper]

Dude

They used to be impossible to kill with double engi

[lucid mist]

used to

[past jasper]

Exposure with a competent transport heli team on attack was literal hell for defender

[lucid mist]

man I love the condor though, such a sick vehicle

[past jasper]

I honestly liked flying the hind more

[flat blaze]

We need a AC130 behemoth 🙌

[safe yew]

how long was the respawn? i think if it were implemented, it should only be availible at the start of the game and then, like, 5 minute intrevals after it goes down. jsut a little treat if you get lucky with it

[past jasper]

It was standard transport air

[lucid mist]

sometimes I wish you could actually access the gunship interiors and move around like you would normally

imagine a condor flying over C and a clown car level of dudes just comes hurdling out the back

[safe yew]

yeah thats too fast

[past jasper]

That would be super cool

And they clearly had modeled the interior since at start of the match you get off one

[safe yew]

or maybe, hear me out, one heli per squad. you only get one, the leader of the squad gets to spawn it at anytime durring the game while the points are above 500

[past jasper]

Fuck no

[safe yew]

jsut spitballing lol

[lucid mist]

it would be cool to have some vehicles be sort of like mobile HQs where they're highly valuable and limited but resupply you/give you the ability to swap loadouts on the fly

[past jasper]

Main issue is that bf is still a game with randos

[lucid mist]

sort of like the titans from 2142 (from my understanding, never played it)

[safe yew]

ah bro you gotta get a core squad in this game or its jsut annoying. (imo)

[past jasper]

Yeah that's the problem, without competent team it is just so ass

[rocky raven]

Port jet and heli physics from BF4 and make them the same as the new A-10/SU-25 from 2042. The jets and helis are absolute trash, and I am surprised that with the budget DICE has and the amount of people working there, people thought it was a good idea to add quirky gimmicks like Cobra maneuvers but not address the elephant in the room: the atrocious flying physics and handling.

If they stay the same, just remove air vehicles and make this a CoD game. Screw it, make it an infantry only game. I would never bet that 2042 would have better physics than a new promising title, but DICE never fails to dissapoint.

[safe yew]

soon as i saw the beta coming out i made a dc and invited people i played w over the years. got 20 guys on rotation,. was a great time

[past jasper]

For example in 2042 you basically need a competent driver and a competent 60mm weapon station user to do well

I don't have much people in my region to play bf wirth

Also gotta be honest, I will miss the stacked weapon stations of vehicles in 2042, 60mm is such a good gunner station

[rough coyote]

Any news on another beta before release?

[tawny sleet]

patience

[past jasper]

It's called official release

[next ridge]

i cant fly for sh*t so i always gun and hope i get a demon pilot

[rough coyote]

my computer has been down, so I missed all of the betas. sad face

[safe yew]

the vehicles did feel well balanced on the beta, but the gunners on the jeeps were so dang easy to take out

[safe yew]

i swap to a controller for heli. feels way more intuitive

[stable remnant]

They should have a training area for ..everything

[past jasper]

I'm always a better gunner than a driver/pilot but I can fly/drive well enough to be ok

[steel sundial]

🇪 🇷 🇩 💤

[past jasper]

It's balanced out by m2hb having stupid damage lol

Imo all vehicular mg in beta needed to be nerfed

[fickle lotus]

Battlefield 6 is straying too far from DICE traditional BF formula, how can I be happy if my game doesn’t crash every five minutes???

[safe yew]

tbh i crashed more on the beta than i have on any other BF game, but that was to be expected

[tight prism]

then fix it

[snow tapir]

Well its certain that BF6 isn't a thing to be run on low end pcs (no offense to nobody)

[flat blaze]

How dare you? Ive been hyping my 1050 TI to stand ready for BF6s arrival.

[snow tapir]

But it is expected to crash even on good pcs since its in beta, so it anit finna be the best first run

[past jasper]

Someone reddit ran it on like 780 or something

[snow tapir]

Like I said no offense or nun (I myself dont have the best pc)

[dull glen]

If BF6 is a success, does that mean the entire franchise is redeemed?

[tawny sleet]

i run it on my old ass 2017 pc i7 7700k and 1080ti

[snow tapir]

Possibly, maybe even more if it surpasses BF1, which i doubt

[steel sundial]

it ran ok on 3070, if the cpu isnt an issue

[tawny sleet]

it's definitely cpu hungry

[steel sundial]

yea, cpu way more impact

[safe yew]

I hope they chill on the color filters and it looks lmore like bf1.

[tawny sleet]

disagree, the color filters they have for operation firestorm to a callback to bf3 is sweet and creates alot of nostalgic atmosphere

[steel sundial]

i still bought a 5080 for launch tho, and 9800x3d

[snow tapir]

Ima stay neutral within this topic, i think the color filters are good and adds more. I feel like BF6 should be something new, but not stray from its traditions

[tawny sleet]

sledgehammer edits are gonna go so hard

[safe yew]

thats fair. i was a fiend for bf3, but the filter on liberation peak crushed the blacks WAAAY too much,

[fickle lotus]

Pretty sure there’s an scp: containment breach stock audio effect in the game because it makes me lose my shit whenever I hear it

Idk if anyone else noticed

[tawny sleet]

imo Cairo had it the worst as shadows were way too dark in broad daylight only covered by pillars as if it was a room secluded from light entirely and it made it difficult as hell to notice anyone most of the time

[safe yew]

yeah the shadows were the issue on lib also for me

we arent all rocking OLEDs hah

[pulsar pulsar]

Visibility was at times bad on liberation indeed

Not prise de Tahure levels but it could be better in certain spots mainly on the hill

[bronze grail]

Just do what war thunder players do and turn the graphical settings all the way down

[vapid yarrow]

how many more days before to play? im losing my patience

[bronze grail]

41

[strong gorge]

I will tell john battlefield about this, I am sure he will hurry up

[strong gorge]

Counter strike players setting their monitor resolution 1 by 1 pixel so they can hit easier or idfk

[late turret]

I'm unable to play because of the following error. Could you let me know if there's a relevant thread?
EAAntiCheatService
The game bflabs.exe exited unexpectedly, exit code: 0xC0000005

[bronze grail]

Playing fps with uncapped frame rate on 60hz monitor is something else. I can't explain it, but somehow it's easier to hit shots

[bronze grail]

#battlefield-labs-discussion

[late turret]

thx!!!

[bronze grail]

You're welcome

[strong gorge]

Its better to have more frames.
Also get a better monitor. Up that hz

[bronze grail]

I have a 165hz monitor

[strong gorge]

Why are you playing with 60

[bronze grail]

I used to play with 60hz because that's what my old display allowed

Then one day it tipped over when I was moving my desk. It hit my keyboard, cracking the screen

If not for that, I'd still be using it

[young kiln]

entire contents of your brain have just been invalidated by this one statement

[bronze grail]

I'm just taking about my experience, no need to be a dingus

[young kiln]

im a liddul wascowl, get it right

[bronze grail]

Nice pfp btw @young kiln

[prime rivet]

There is going to be a surprise beta weekend before release right?

[young kiln]

alfalfa is the name

[young kiln]

you as well good sire

[bronze grail]

[vapid yarrow]

i uninstalled BF5, i can't withstand the stick legs animation

[maiden fog]

Will BF6 have ranked play?

[frosty vault]

this is not cod twin

[maiden fog]

😭

[timber steppe]

Anyone who is having trouble flying Heli here’s what I did: BF6. GGs

Make sure to do this:

1. Switch off the Helicopter control assist - It’s under Heli settings > Pilot
2. Right below that, select Vehicle Aim input curve > set to BF2042 Old
3. Vehicle zoom aim input curve > BF2042
4. Vehicle Stick input Acceleration presets> BF2042
5. Change Throttle up to D-Pad ⬆️ and throttle down to D-Pad ⬇️

Everything is under CONTROLLER > HELICOPTER > EDIT SETTINGS > HELICOPTER 🚁 :BFO: :UpvoteArrow: :BFO: :UpvoteArrow:

[agile bridge]

Is respawn part of BF studios?

[novel condor]

Good night guys, does anyone know what the heavy armored vehicle is pax armata ?

[civic herald]

How to I get into battlefield labs

[gusty linden]

Does anyone know if the network bug where two people can't play at the same time if they're on the same network has been fixed? It was present in 2042 and I guess older titles

[quartz mason]

I hope we could see the return of weather system like past Battlfield and naval warfare 😀😀

[void gull]

How do i play labs on PS5

[quartz mason]

you need to sign up online and hope you gret an email

[void gull]

Thats done

I have that email

[quartz mason]

once you get the email usually you download it on ps store i believd

[void gull]

Hmm must be some problem then bc i dont have anything in psstore

Got email playtesting ea blabla bla and nothing

[quartz mason]

is there a link or something?

[normal echo]

They had some interview in the last few days saying that the majority of the players where at or near the minimum requirements, and that there was a significant population of players running BELOW min reqs.

I can say from my end, my CPU was a touch above minimum reqs, and my gfx card was a touch below min reqs, and I had basically zero issues playing 1080p/60fps the entire beta. Frankly, BF6 beta ran better than 2042 runs. I'll get overheating/crashing from 2042 if I play too long or sit on an one of those idle/xp farm servers for 5+ hours. I did a like 13.5hr marathon session of bf6 during beta and never had an issue.

[tight prism]

lowest for 1080 60 id recommend is like i7 6700k and gtx 1070

i didnt test low end ryzen but yeah i dunno if 17/1800 ryzen could do it maybe cos its simular to 6 core 2600 which is lowest ea spec

[quasi fox]

I really REALLY hope they fix helicopter movement to be more like bf4 before launch

[dry ledge]

What's Operation Firestorm about

[flat blaze]

I hope they make it even farther away from BF4 controls. Give us 1942 controls smh.

[willow lance]

Not in the main multiplayer that’s for sure

[hearty elbow]

Why are the HQ spawns so goddamn close on every map

[crimson gate]

Quicker to get into battle

They’ve made a lot of the game much quicker to get into action

[hearty elbow]

Exactly, no time to breath

[merry rock]

Anyway that I can figure out how to get a invite, requested a long time ago 🥲

[crimson gate]

I’m not a fan either

[timber steppe]

Just unlocked 2042 Phantom Skins

[crimson gate]

There’s no waiting when you die. No waiting to regenerate health. No waiting to get into the action. This is what people mean when they say it’s faster paced and not about running speed.

[tall zinc]

a ryzen 1700 will run this game terribly as it has no acceleration for TPM via SLAT w/ GMET like zen+ onwards does

[tight prism]

yeah fair, i know first get ryzen is kinda obsolete now cos the following gens on am4 had so much uplift

personal project of mine has been trying to tune amd fx 8350 to get stable 1080p 60 in 2042, nearly there, i need to try driver slimming next. its up to 5ghz and 1.5v but i dont wanna push the vrms on the board any hardet lol

[sage plover]

Back when BF4's hayday and stumbling upon DICE employees that bother to play. What unique attachments do they get to have in 4?

[silent trench]

So uh, any scheduled test for tomorrow? If so, what time?

[crimson gate]

If you have access you know more than us

[silent trench]

Wish I did. I was told if i participated in Network Test. I’m good to go.

[crimson gate]

I think it’s the opposite

[silent trench]

Some people just want to see the world burn I guess…

[crimson gate]

Any other test gets future access but people that got into the stress test don’t

[silent trench]

Ain’t that a female dog.

[crimson gate]

I could be wrong I ain’t get invited to anything so

[silent trench]

Well. You’re invited to my thoughts. 👍🏽💭🔥

Sorry if it’s messy there.

[chilly shore]

Hope the VSS comesback in BF6

Probably my favourite gun in 2042

[tepid needle]

60 fps would be unplayable for me

[tidal hound]

B-b-but according to console players, every PC player is playing at 200fps at native 8k, and is as good as Shroud so crossplay is unfair

And IF they are playing at <100fps, they are probably cheating

[vital sedge]

7800X3D/5070TI and i get 200 fps

[verbal hemlock]

DICE PLS don't make me play 2042. Just put the unlocks in all BF games.

[tepid needle]

You can do it afk

[vital sedge]

with dlss enabled i can get 230 fps

cept im building a new 9800X3d/5090 PC so will see how much i can get with it

[tidal hound]

9800x3d goes up to like 260fps, assuming you are playing the game and aren't sitting in base spawn with no players around

Goes down to 200 on Empire State map

[chilly shore]

It's much faster to play

[tepid needle]

Yes but he doesn't want to play that's the point

[chilly shore]

You play casper and use the drone to snitch on every enemy and vehicles

[tepid needle]

Idk how much faster it is because in ammo server you get 10k exp per min

And it's full exp

[chilly shore]

Once you get all the ribbons, switch to Falck yeet ammo boxes and use your crudaider's crossbow

[tepid needle]

I just did a mix of ammo server and playing normally and I'm at 45 battlepass

[chilly shore]

Once you got all the Wingman, Logistic, and EMP ribbons, you can play any other chars you want and start killing

Do it in Iwo jima breakthrough

[urban robin]

Snitch 😆 😆

[covert fog]

Can they just release the game frfr on god no cap

[patent root]

If the game releases right now I will eat an orange with toothpaste

[edgy flare]

[upbeat willow]

Lol. I know it's jokes but the endless wishing for an early release in here lately cracks me up

[boreal monolith]

just did 8 iwo jima breakthroughs in a row....i hate myself

[hallow furnace]

Go play Roblox lil bro

[covert fog]

Go sleep kid

[hallow furnace]

Im surprised you still up old fart

[covert fog]

Touch grass before you touch my notifications.

[hallow furnace]

That’s lame ash ngl 😭

You’re so chopped

[winged marten]

My 3070 can barely pull 70fps in 1440 ultra 😭
I have to upgrade

[broken bone]

Has the fall of BF6 come upon us?

[covert fog]

You calling me chopped while looking like an unfinished character in Roblox

[covert fog]

That’s actually crazy considering 3070 is not even a bad card..

[restive robin]

i mean if you wanna be able to see people better a bunch of settings go on low anyway

[open laurel]

if you are trying to render native 1440p on a card that is 2 generations old and then saying "barely 70 fps"... that's crazy lmfao

I would kill for this GPU but guess that isn't enough for some people

[tidal hound]

Most people are CPU bound so the GPU isn't as important

[chilly shore]

Casper's drone is the biggest snitch

[tidal hound]

DLSS ends up reducing performance because it uses some CPU power, but the GPU is already underutilized

[chilly shore]

I'm playing this game with an integrated graphics

with a little tinkering, I got in running in a decent FPS although not recommended

[tidal hound]

Unless of course you're a weirdo who maxes every setting, when Ultra typically massivley hurts performance while barely looking any different, and in a lot of cases, the exact same as High

[restive robin]

i think a bunch of people use dlss when they don't need it. and it messes their shit up

[long bolt]

most people dont know what there doing lol

[chrome grove]

so will there will closed weapon system or open?

[open laurel]

shoutout to everyone who actually uses the radar information when I play casper

mfw I ping 20 people flanking and nobody turns around after a solid minute

[patent root]

I look at my minimap once every blue moon so thank u twyn

[crimson gate]

There’s a minimap?

[restive robin]

most people don't even seem to use their own q button

[open laurel]

bro 😭

[patent root]

Tbh the spotting is only a little useful cuz it's not like I couldn't tell there wasn't already enemies there by all the bullets flying everywhere😭

[open laurel]

it gives you really precise info, can sometimes save your life if you are surrounded

also helps out snipers+engineers since you can ping vehicles and far away enemies

also the drone has an EMP so you can remotely destroy gadgets like insertion beacons which is CRAZY for breakthrough, super useful

[patent root]

That's why I like using Casper sometimes

I also just think it's silly because someone will have just barely placed an insertion beacon and not even 2 seconds later it gets destroyed by me

[quasi breach]

redditors got another thing to complain about, the voicelines lol

[quasi breach]

does insertion beacon stops projectiles?

[patent root]

It's basically a spawn beacon

[quasi breach]

oh right. there is an equipment that stops projectiles right? I remember someone talking about it

[patent root]

I wouldn't know

[winged marten]

yeah bf2042 ambient voicelines were better than bf6 💀

[winged marten]

It's a trophy system, in bf4 its the mp-aps for support and bf2042 is the trophy system for irish

[quasi breach]

well we dont have the full release yet. will have to wait and see

[winged marten]

come on man you seriously expect them to redo all the voicelines for launch?

[quasi breach]

oh irish. yeah the way enemies throw 100s of scatter granades at me at one I think I will have to start using it

[quasi breach]

well who knows, maybe they have the voicelines but its not integrated in the game considering we will be getting different factions because in beta we only had a single specialist in every class

[winged marten]

There are no factions. It's just NATO vs a PMC

[quasi breach]

there are sub teams under NATO and PMC

[winged marten]

The last battlefield that will be dark and gritty with real countries is BF1, they cant make a game like that anymore

[winged marten]

No they're just excuses for skin packs, its not gonna be subfactions that are map locked.

[tight prism]

If only more people would use the EMP instead of letting enemy drones fly around and beacons stay up en masse.

[quasi breach]

yeah I recently saw an image of all the countries and their skins. they looked cool

[tight prism]

People seem to believe Casper is only for spotting, and it irks me to no end.

[rugged night]

halfway through the garbage pass

[quasi breach]

why are you collecting garbage

[patent root]

I feel a sense of shame considering myself a part of this community since I'm a cod refugee

I love team play though

[rugged night]

killing time. thought maybe id get some slight enjoyment from this game now but nah it still sucks

[quasi breach]

cod refugee is hilarious

[shrewd hull]

if he is like me, i love to collect limited edition stuff like skin where you need to farm / grind

[tight prism]

We welcome anyone who actually wants to play, whatever game they come from.

[quasi breach]

what are you not liking about the game apart from the plain maps

[quasi breach]

but he is not enjoying it which means not like you

[shrewd hull]

true. haha

[tight prism]

One match out from T40, ahead of schedule.

[rugged night]

easier list is what i do like. sniping feels ok, maps are large, 2-3 of them are ok, 128 players is fun. ummmmmm

[quasi breach]

easier list?

[shrewd hull]

but lemme tell you this, i'm not 100% enjying it too. i'm not getting bored coz i want to UNLOCK everything. I'm new ngl. So i want to unlock every gun, gear, vehicle before BF6 hits

[rugged night]

dislike list would be endless

[crimson gate]

The sniping is too easy it feels like there’s no bullet drop

[shrewd hull]

you might say you can do it using AI, but what the point of the challenges / mission if u do it with AIs

[patent root]

I mainly want the skins on page 5

[shrewd hull]

the Gas mask looking skin (might be a Support or Recon class) looks sick ngl

[crimson gate]

Engineer most likely

[tight prism]

I am partial to the T60 skin, forever reminded of 2042 by being a No-Pat.

[winged marten]

To minimise your time playing the sorry excuse of a game called bf2042

[shrewd hull]

we need something to quench our thirst for BF6

[urban robin]

Made me smile lol

[shrewd hull]

i am the only one that hack those and shoot them down? like i wanna make the enemy team blind

but my team mate just ignore like 2-3 flying around

[patent root]

How dare you be a smart player

It's people like you that are the reason I can't max out my recon ribbon some games

[shrewd hull]

I'm sorry but not sorry.

[tawdry temple]

Bf2042 is a masterpiece

[patent root]

Today is opposite day right

[drifting kraken]

Its so good imma delete it after this afk server done

[tawdry temple]

Yeah you wouldn’t know a masterpiece if it slapped you in the face

[drifting kraken]

Why didn’t dice make the battle pass work on BF3,4,5,1,2042, Hardline that way whatever favorite game people got they can play and still level up the battle pass.

[patent root]

They want to put us through pain and anguish so that when BF6 releases we feel relief

[crimson gate]

Because they need to pump the player numbers on their latest game

[patent root]

Because bread taste better than key

[crimson gate]

Some players will spend money on skins as well

Straight business decision

[shrewd hull]

Because they needed to remove the overwhelming negative review to a decent negative review rating in the steam page

[hard ravine]

It's funny how the BF6 beta got more people playing 2042 than any time other than the week it came out lol

[patent root]

I shamefully threw 10 bucks at the game to get a skin for angel🥀

[shrewd hull]

Well BF6 Phantom edition got me good with their skin

[patent root]

I like the way the skins in the bf6 beta rewards looked

[crimson gate]

I hope you guys are happy

[tawdry temple]

I bought 7 copies of 2042, to show my support and appreciation for EA

[hard ravine]

I am so glad I never bought it lol

[shrewd hull]

So u admit u have 7 steam / EA account.... Hmmmmm

[patent root]

Honestly I'm just happy seeing actual soldiers shooting each other again, cod skins pmo

Done with that series

[tawdry temple]

I got 15, you know how it is, they get banned pretty fast with my high kd

[patent root]

BF2042 so good I didn't even pay for it(I got when it was free for ps plus)

[brave field]

server browser is in the game yeah?

[patent root]

I think so

[brave field]

are we back??

[shrewd hull]

Keeping expectation low for now

[patent root]

Why u think we're so HYPED🗣️🗣️🗣️

[brave field]

i think we are SO back

[hard ravine]

Battlefield 5 and 2042 are the only one's I've skipped on, started on BF1942. I tried 2042 after the BF6 beta, god aweful might as well play Delta Force. But I regret never going back to Battlefield 5 after they added more content. This game is fun af

[tawdry temple]

You missed out on 2042 bud

[hard ravine]

Nah I tried it again. I gave it a fair chance, that game is slop. Even on portal. Battlefield 1 looks far better from 2016.

[tawdry temple]

🤥

[hard ravine]

Oh whats that flying by? Oh some lady with a flying wingsuit, and oh crap look at that dude playing spiderman with a grappling hook! lol

[worn marten]

I love existing and suddenly there is a Sundance behind you who just experienced 81 days by flight

[flat blaze]

Glad someone said it

[slow horizon]

lf someone to unlock the phantom EE medic skins bf2042 in my server. dm

[harsh jay]

Is it just me that wishes for old map remakes but in different biomes?
For example Caspian border but it's desert wasteland, Silk road but it's forested area, Gulf of Oman but it's frozen land

[hollow harbor]

last time i played 2042 wass when the missions refreshed

it also made my mood grumpy for the rest of the day

[tawdry temple]

Lastshot you are too old to be playing fps games

[crimson gate]

Would be sick

Idea so good EA will never do it

[hollow harbor]

i wrote my gaming accounts emails and passwords in my will sonny

[tawdry temple]

I will take good care of them, don’t you worry about nuttin

[hollow harbor]

i dont like you george , i wrote all ofit to your brother bob

too late , mods ban him

[hollow harbor]

now i feel bad for you

cause i really love you you can have my EA account

[tawdry temple]

I promise I won’t cheat on that account

[hollow harbor]

you only have access to 2042

good luck finding cheats for that game cheat makers quit like 3 years ago

[still hinge]

I wanted to make a suggestion about the new Battlefield, which is very good, but I would like them to add more improved sounds like they did in Battlefield 1, which for me is still the best game of all. I hope you can take me into account.

[tawdry temple]

Great, now I will own 8 - 2042 copies

[hollow harbor]

still not enough

looks like I'm buying the 5500x3d if that thing in stock anywhere

[trail nova]

I'm sad the secret Phantom skin unlock is only for 2042

[grizzled topaz]

Cheating in games is sad, get a life

[hollow harbor]

news flash

[tawdry temple]

At least I’m not 1.2kd!

[frail wraith]

Hello,! New to the discord community and somewhat to Bf. When 6 kicks off i hope to join some squads and use comms! In game or on here i guess. I just miss the communication when gaming.

Im already married, so i already have that talking to myself thing going on! ( sarcasm +jokes)

[hard ravine]

Discord and party chats have kinda killed meeting people online games. I do meet the occasional person in-games. But nowadays everyone is in a discord party chat. Back in 2006 playing Gears of War the in-between game lobbies were filthy it was awesome XD

[frail wraith]

So this is the spot to meet people and squad up

I am decent but comms make teamwork happen. I beleive in it. And make me better. Im a bad lone wolf

[quasi relic]

hi guys. I was wondering if someone knows then they will give access to the labs. i signed up a few days a go and i saw somewhere the labs servers will be open on the 31.

[hard ravine]

good luck. not many people get access

[tawdry temple]

You need to post your stats in #stats , by the gameplay I have seen they must only be accepting sub 0.3 kd players

[quasi relic]

ah. ok. thanks

[dim bramble]

I might have a chance then

[vernal flower]

I just completed tier 33, so now i can just relax and focus on week missions in the coming days, if thats the case, is it possible to easily complete the future week missions by doing breakthrough solo / coop mode against eazy bots? Will the weekly rewards progression still register?

[slow horizon]

lf lis missle players for iwo jima breakthrough, dm

[chilly shore]

They either care about the kills or the threat is infront of them

[willow lance]

I don't think many people wants that. Chinatown from Hardline was Grand Bazaar remake. People didn't like it as much. Dragon Valley TDM was almost 1:1 same with Noshahr Canals TDM(BF3 version). No one hosts Dragon Valley TDM.

[spare socket]

I think it's better to focus on potential map adjustments to fit the new game's sandbox than adjusting an already well established aesthetic tbh

Like, you can adjust the aesthetic (if you have a realllly strong idea for it) but a lot of maps visual aesthetic sometimes are intertwined with the map design.

Silk road for example is this wide expansive sandy desert with dunes and outposts with that base of interest in the center.

As such the map design for silk road is expansive, with tons of transport vehicles, and small hills/dunes where appropriate to provide terrain for infantry

[spare socket]

battlefield 2 maps are a great example of this in 4

a lot of those maps (not all but a lot) are wayyyyy too open for modern gaming imo. Bf2 was a fun arcadey product of its time that had a unique charm to it.

dragon valley being a very prominent example

a lot more cover, terrain, and building elements were added to that map so it wasn't as open as the original. The temple area was also added

[void crow]

Dragon valley remake was better than 2 as it had more covers

[spare socket]

people tend to forget the vehicle dominance and cross map sniping of dragon valley in og bf2

[valid drift]

People tend to forget vehicles used to be literally the point of battlefield games

[spare socket]

it shifted a lot more towards infantry this much is true.

bf3 was the biggest shift arguably.

[valid drift]

ngl I want rearming/repairing at bases only back (and ofc repairing by engineers)

This vehicles regenning health while not getting hit is so stupid

[void crow]

It's your playstyle to do 100% vehicle but except armored assault and others dlc, most well renown maps were a balance between infantry and vehicles. Sharqi, Karkand, Jalalabad, they all had some vehicles but you could still avoid them as an infantry. We find the same wish in Cairo for example

[spare socket]

Yk the weird engineer ability that while not totally useless is kinda eh

I kinda wish they would just add a sub clause to it that allowed you to repair destroyed terrain

[valid drift]

In 6? No it's pretty great actually

[west tinsel]

What do you think about the Firestorm map cut?

[spare socket]

I mean yeah ig if you have a full engineer squad with a vehicle and mayyybe one support it's nuts

ig I just find it boring

[spare socket]

what's funny is this is technically in the game but it's not like everywhere

[void crow]

It seems promising as for Mirak which are more balanced inf/vehicles, I do hope they rework peak to be the same orientation (they said they would optimize objectives and map size)

[valid drift]

Vehicle health regen is still a thing

[spare socket]

yeah. I'd be chill with removing vehicle health regen for more stations but fitting those stations in for how tight the maps are... I can understand it

[valid drift]

Not sure about infinite ammo actually. I know you can run out at least but I'm pretty sure it slowly gives you some over time

I just heavily dislike air vehicles in particular though. Infinite flares, infinite ammo, infinite health

[void crow]

Looking at some leaks from the actual playtesting, specializations have been reworked once again. So maybe auto repair will be balanced (and so mines spotting which is kinda op)

[spare socket]

btw did you know about the free look nonsense for the air vehicles

[valid drift]

Auto repair isn't a class specific thing

[spare socket]

I wasn't aware of it in the beta and ngl... that shizz makes aircraft broken in an entirely different way lol

[void crow]

Engineer spec 2 was designed to auto repair vehicles he's in

[valid drift]

What thing

[willow lance]

Good, people won't be able to snipe from edge of the map 😂

[spare socket]

Helicopters are also capable of this, it seems.

[valid drift]

That just looks like a bug

[spare socket]

Dice: so we reduce aerial maneuvering because we wanted to add a broken mechanic

[void crow]

Need a fps locked view to avoid it ahah

[spare socket]

I hope so but then the current maneuverability feels a bit off

[willow lance]

Vehicle health regen is good as long as you can't repair a vehicle from the inside imo

[wide elbow]

😇

[willow lance]

BFV had vehicle attrition and you had tanks sniping people across the hills because those hills were closer to resupply stations

[spare socket]

good vehicle players deserve punishment in dynamics that require maintenence.

Unfortunately bf6's approach is make vehicles overall weaker but their floor for failure higher

[willow lance]

BFV had literally that, it was a failure in design

[spare socket]

the floor for a vehicle player in 6 is overall higher imo.

but the ceilng is notably reduced.

[void crow]

let's hope the counter of the engineer spec 1 (vehicles hit by your rockets slows -50% the repair for 10s) will balance the thing

[spare socket]

is this the ability or just a perk

[void crow]

perk level 2 if I well remember

[spare socket]

jesus christ lmao

[valid drift]

That sounds so stupid

[spare socket]

This is easily by far the weakest vehicles have been in battlefield ever ngl

[void crow]

Man the engineer sp2 litterally repairs the vehicle he's in...

[spare socket]

unless we include weirdo games like battlefield heroes but that doesn't count

[valid drift]

Which is also stupid

[spare socket]

.......

dice... respectfully.

what

[void crow]

I think it's also to avoid having abuses like in Iwo Jima when you have a tank with 5 engineers behind on F

[spare socket]

does this stack

Cuz if it stacks you'll have this very stupid problem for vehicles that can fit in a lot of players

[valid drift]

Me on iwo jima with AA launcher: 0 points because the 27 enemy jets/helos have flares/stealth/speed/bugs at their side

[spare socket]

ah yes my transport heli is just

regaining 5 hp a second fr.

[spare socket]

cuz it's stacked with engineers with this perk

I swear if they overlooked this I will lose my mind. Frankly including it to begin with is.... ehhhh

it's either too weak that it's a meme or too strong that it's annoying

[void crow]

I couldn't test it so can't say really. But it would be same problem as if 4 assault stack the speed capture so I don't think it would stack

[spare socket]

Why design that ☠️

There is such a concept as "failure in design" looks at brig in overwatch

[willow lance]

AA launchers were historically useless

[valid drift]

I felt that uncontested capturing was way too slow actually

Especially solo, just sitting there for a minute with nothing to do

[spare socket]

true

But oh look my score went up insert whoa point meme

[void crow]

Well it's because your team should be with you which is pretty decent when you're 4 on points but playing with randoms leads to a solo play

[spare socket]

I would love if bf6 implemented opt in proximity chat tbh.

[valid drift]

I can't force my squad to spawn on me

If I could I would, the stupid bastards

[spare socket]

wait does bf6 even have a squad chat with random squad members?

[void crow]

Tbh they just have to reduce the multiplier on kills and up the capture

[void crow]

yes you have global / team / squad

[spare socket]

ok good. I didn't check it cuz I was playing with friends and used something else to talk with em

[flat blaze]

If BF6 is ass at least No Mans Sky is updating onto their 10th year of free content.

[willow lance]

15 captures gives you more XP than 140 kills already

Despite 140 kills being more important

[valid drift]

Depends, if those 140 kills end up being revived you accomplished nothing

[willow lance]

Same can be said about captures too, if those 15 captures are uncapped a second later you accomplished nothing too

[valid drift]

Those captures directly lead to increasing enemy ticket bleed/decreasing your ticket bleed

[void crow]

140 kills on C in Cairo is far less usefull than captures

[willow lance]

Nah

If you keep C you basically win the game, C is the most important flag

[tidal hound]

Those 140 kills lets your team capture points without pressure

[valid drift]

.

[tidal hound]

At least make a realistic argument

[valid drift]

Alright: nobody is getting 140 kills

[tidal hound]

You're assuming medics will even revive people in the first place

[void crow]

Well with the new ability to drag downed out of battle I see more rez than in 2042

[tidal hound]

Ye I do too, but it's not hard to beat 0 revives from 2042

[willow lance]

140 kills is extremely hard in BF6 I agree but 80-100 is doable

[valid drift]

I want separate keys for dragging and reviving

[bronze grail]

Yes

[valid drift]

Also separate key for picking up weapons

[bronze grail]

Press tab to switch channels

[supple quarry]

can i buy the phantom edition as an upgrade to the regular?

[bronze grail]

Better than separate keys for each channel imo

[void crow]

Not for now but maybe after the release date.
If you already bought regular and want the Phantom, ask a refund and order the pe

[wanton badger]

so i suppose nothing was said about giving us offline bots? suppose EA are gona fail again to capitalise on this feature so many people want?

[mellow drift]

This x1000

Why players that play CQ for kills farming and have 0 caps at the end finish top is always baffling over someone with a decent amount of kills but a good chunk of caps. Putting more points on flag capping should incentivise more to actually PTFO in the mode.

[supple quarry]

and im guessing i cant refund the normal edition and buy the phantom since i have 20 hours on it

[tidal hound]

Bro is from the future

[void crow]

Game is not out yet so you have 100% rigt to get a refund (beta is not the final)

[supple quarry]

ok so i'll just refund this and buy the other one

[void crow]

I see people being always 1st in Iwo Jima to camp vehicles with assists and kills, no cap revive or refill, that's insane

[supple quarry]

Refunds are typically not issued for purchases that are more than 14 days old.

[void crow]

There will be in portal for sure as it was announced but I don't know if you'll have a solo/Coop as in 2042

[quartz depot]

Any news about the time to release at 10.10? Any timezone at the same time?

[void crow]

Only if the game is out and you played > 2h (steam politics which is applied pretty everywhere from what I saw)

[tidal hound]

It's on the EA App. But if today was the 10th (or 9th, timezones), it would be releasing in 5 hours

[supple quarry]

yes i see, i requested the wrong thing, doing the right one now

[tidal hound]

Unless you are on console, then you get to play like 25 hours before PC

[quartz depot]

Thx

[void crow]

<t:1760108400:F>

[tidal hound]

That's 2 hours late

[tight prism]

The Beta did not have much reviving either, saw many terrible "Medics," every match.

[tidal hound]

Meanwhile, console will open up at <t:1760011200:F>

[void crow]

Well probably not every medic would rez (why taking medic tho) but at least there was more

[fallen geode]

What for

[tidal hound]

Assuming midnight release in NZ

[fallen geode]

Oh

[tight prism]

There were certainly a few good members of our Support Corps. around, and if you were one of them I am glad you were, but many give us a terrible name.

[fallen geode]

Actually pre order should get 5 days early access

[tidal hound]

console gets to play 27 hours before PC opens lol

[void crow]

I'd prefer stable servers over early access tbh

[fallen geode]

Sorry October 7th 4days early access

[tight prism]

What was your revive count by the way all told during the beta there fox? I am curious.

[fallen geode]

Sorry but early access better get game early before anyone else

[void crow]

With the new balance, the medic will be my 2nd choice rn

[void crow]

When you can't play for 3-4 days (hello Mgs delta), it's better to wait for the patch d1

[fallen geode]

Delta ass

Can't even get in game

[tidal hound]

Imagine buying UE5 slop. Still havent learned your lesson?

[void crow]

Weekend 1, 203 out of 35 games
Weekend 2, 275 out of 67 games

but I focused on other classes to level up all weapons for a good overview

[tight prism]

Gotcha gotcha.

[void crow]

you ?

[tight prism]

1171 total revives. Would be more but when my team was not pulling their weight I switched off.

[void crow]

It's so different to play with 3 friends with on mic

[opaque solstice]

Are previous testers automatically getting into the next Labs test or do we all have to sign up again

[void crow]

don't need to signup again but if you don't have the game in your lib it means you'll have to wait a new invitation

[haughty badge]

just saw the battlefield 6 official PC trailer.. and did i just saw a throwing knife moment?! we're getting throwing knifes?! alright, pre-order it is.

they better be 1 shot kill tho

[opaque solstice]

You're certain? I saw footage on reddit of a match on Mirak Valley

[void crow]

I mean, your account is already signed up, but you'll need sometimes a new invitation

[opaque solstice]

lol their playtesting site is broken. Doesn't let me log in. Great job EA!

[twin lantern]

I hope battlefield does like call of duty when it comes to anti cheat and allow them to play but do funny stuff to their game. Like make their weapon shoot blanks or disappear

[cold panther]

remember to check the non binary box to increase the chances of being accepted

[versed rock]

Hello everyone,

Have we convinced EA to include platoon support, which encourages, keeping friends together, team play and community. Or, do they still think it’s a good idea to annihilate friendship groups and clans. Some of which, are over 10+ years old.

When I say ‘ we’ I include the dice devs being part of ‘us’ haha.

[void crow]

I think best will be to create your own server for your clan ahah

[velvet kayak]

They’ve not even confirmed persistent servers & server browser in main game 😖

[versed rock]

These are both quite fundamental. Honestly, I do believe the devs and DICE team try. But, the investors and EA behave like a boggy man.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if theirs collaborators within the studio’s..

Y’all ready for this conversation.?

[nimble compass]

they have confirmed persistent portal servers, and portal server browser, with verified portal servers that gives 100% xp and are featured on the main menu

it's almost identical to what we have in 2042

[quasi breach]

I read a tweet that as of right now there is no plans of adding a platoon system

[quasi breach]

there will be a server browser but for the portal

[velvet kayak]

Yeah, so not good enough

[versed rock]

Hahaha, but why not.? It really could supplement the PAX NATO theme - if done properly.

[velvet kayak]

I know.

[versed rock]

Exactly, we need private rentals

[nimble compass]

good enough to me, I don't see why we need persistent official servers when we can just make our own, for free

[nimble compass]

you want to pay for something that's given to you for free?

[velvet kayak]

You tried filling one?

[nimble compass]

yeah go on discord and ask your discord friends to join lmao

[velvet kayak]

Last decent rental servers were in Hardline

[versed rock]

Because, although portal is good, it’s more like a child’s play box - in consistent rules, varying adjustments. Which doesn’t appeal to the majority of the game base that want consistency.

[idle talon]

I'd like a nice egg tbh

[nimble compass]

in bf6 there will be verified portal servers which will just be vanilla rulesets

[velvet kayak]

I have a massive BF community FB group, I can fill one if I set a date and time days ahead

[severe moat]

So your biggest complaint to portal vs rental servers is that players use portal in a more inventive manner?

[versed rock]

That’s good although, their is a sense of ownership with rentals isn’t their nvmd.

[severe moat]

Even though you have the tools to make exactly what was set up in previous battlefield games?

[velvet kayak]

We don’t want to be sent off to community servers like lepers

[nimble compass]

they are practically community servers, but now they are called "portal" servers instead. Honestly I fail to see why people seem to dislike this variation so much

[severe moat]

They are community servers by virtue of being run by the community

[velvet kayak]

Come on line and spend ages trying to get server going…..

[severe moat]

If you wanted to make a server where it’s just the launch maps on 64 player conquest, go for it

No one is stopping you from building “Big Daddy Hardcore Milsim Empire State” servers

[velvet kayak]

Will they fill with general players hitting quick play???

[nimble compass]

that's exactly how a normal rented server would operate - you need to find people to fill it the first time, and if they like playing in that server, they will come back.
I can understand the lack of matchmaking into a community server is what people are upset about - but if you don't have a community to fill your server in the first place, why bother making a server? Just use matchmaking

[severe moat]

No… because those playlists are “unofficial”, so why the official matchmaker would put them in those servers is confusing

[nimble compass]

If you have enough people to fill your server, use portal. If you don't, use matchmaking. Why do you care about filling a server in the first place if you don't have people to fill it?

doesn't make sense to me

[severe moat]

“Man I can’t wait to play conquest”

“Wait why am I in this 200% damage hardcore server? I just wanted conquest”

[velvet kayak]

Back in Hardline I could rent a server, section standard settings and would fill from general folk automatically - those were the days

[tame cradle]

hi guys i have a question will i get freepas to lvl 20 when i will buy preorder on ea when 2042 is on steam?

[versed rock]

You would be surprised, I like invention and creativity. But, look how picky players are about simple player movements or, recoil, class layouts ect. In addition to varying game rules and other adjustments also, being not easily accessible, I.E locked behind menu browsers. - isnt great. Ideally, you would want many visible options built into the server browser for clarity, holistic ness and easy navigation .Although, I am not saying scrap it at all but, add server rentals people like options

[severe moat]

As far as I knew if you wanted to join a server that was owned and run by players you had to join via server browser

[velvet kayak]

That’s why I want persistent servers & server browser in main game…..

[nimble compass]

what you can do now in 2042 is set up a portal server, turn on persistence, leave it there and go play matchmaking, and when that portal server is filled you join and play

I believe it's going to be identical in bf6

[severe moat]

So far what I’ve gathered from this conversation is that players are unhappy about the tools that DICE is giving them to make what they want

Crazy

[slow flume]

hey are here admins from the DC Server ? i would like to have a german section ... because my english is not so good and i will understand whats new ^^

[nimble compass]

yeah, which is bizarre to me. Somehow people are asking for paid rental servers back, while the current option is free

[velvet kayak]

I mean besides, who wants to keep playing the same map over and over in the main DICE servers?

[severe moat]

I mean… not us but if you want to solve the problem you could just… make a server with all of the maps so you can rotate through them?

[velvet kayak]

In BFV, we search for a server at our favourite point in the rotation, play fave maps then leave / do it again - bliss

[velvet kayak]

If those servers fill easily that would be fine

[versed rock]

I think the key recipe is to integrate portal servers with vanilla servers holistically. Rather than, making it other. I.E when you search conquest it brings up all servers portal and generic. Let’s see, perhaps lessons learnt from 2042 are apparent. - we wouldn’t need rentals if portal is done properly.

[void crow]

Why is it call portal instead of browser btw ?

[nimble compass]

it functions the same so they can call it whatever they want lol

[severe moat]

That’s a player interest issue and prior paid servers can also suffer from the same problems

Please tell me how many rental servers BF1 has

[versed rock]

Exactly my point thank you

[velvet kayak]

Like I said, worked fine in Hardline - they changed the way rental servers populated on BF1

[void crow]

Don't overestimate people. If it was called browser, people moaning wouldn't moan anymore.

CSS (i'm old) had also a browser where you can find normal games such as weird map where rules were different. Nobody cared and everyone went to the server they like.

[tame cradle]

i bought it and its not working

[hollow harbor]

oh no @tawdry temple got owned 😭

rip unc

[velvet kayak]

I’m old too 😖

[versed rock]

Yes but, we know advertisement and cohesion work like magic tricks.

[hollow harbor]

@short peak george got owned

[nimble compass]

I agree 100% with you but this is a people issue and if people are simple-minded and are confused by a simple naming difference it's a bigger issue than just a video game

[short peak]

It is 850 in the morning

[hollow harbor]

its 1 pm in EU unc wake up

[versed rock]

Name is important it holds identity - portal in my opinion, should be scrapped (it holds to much negative connotations from 2042)

[velvet kayak]

Not really, portal to me is just Community servers - not the main game servers

[neon gyro]

bf3 on pc u had to open a browser tab and login to battlelog to find server

[nimble compass]

dice wants to start a new thing here - similar to halo forge - not giving it a new identity would just drown it out

[versed rock]

Bingo!! Brilliant idea - Community servers, let’s call it that - trick us all
You nailed it here buddy.

[nimble compass]

I can see some issues with it but honestly the benefits outweigh the negatives

[versed rock]

Ahh I see, our fellow comrade suggested ‘Community servers’ this is a great way of rebranding (which appeals to agitators) without drowning it out.

I.E it would be obvious and would have an effect of combining what fans want and rebranding ‘portal’ to give it a new start, ‘turn the page’

[void crow]

For me in 2042 when I started playing portal in quickmatch, it was just to play old bf titles or mixed. It was not related to a particular browser. It's kinda logic as you use a portal to go in different areas (stargate hello).

But here portal is just a browser to host servers. It's confusing for people that just want to play a game and force them to go on the quick join that kill community serveurs instead of helping them. Maybe you can lower your hopes on humanity tho

[void crow]

Let's name it server browser with tag as community server or exp farm or weird maps so people understand easily

[nimble compass]

if people can't operate this new system because of a naming issue/how the menu is set up, yeah my hope for humanity is gone
the menu is set up similarly to how a streaming app is set up - as in it has been optimized for couch potatoes, it's the simpliest form of UI/communication to the user

[void crow]

I don't know why marketing people always try to recreate the wheel when it could be so simple.

Probably to justify their salary

[steel sundial]

people that cant create anything needs jobs too, like HR

[void crow]

See the movie "idiocracy" and you'll have a good picture of actual humanity.

[short peak]

I am watching my morning tiktoks and you tell me George Adderall is timed out yet again

[versed rock]

Agree here, community servers - must be the name. They ‘would be portal servers’ must be integrated into the generic server browser (owners of these servers would be obvious I.E renaming/branding so, players can void easily or, choose to join.)

[severe moat]

I like how both sides of the naming argument agree that players are stupid as fuck

[nimble compass]

this has been established for years

[void crow]

Sure 4 years of portal vs 25 years of server browser 😂

[severe moat]

I mean it’s been obvious but it became more apparent when I saw how fucking awful players are with creativity

[versed rock]

So when I click conquest it gives me all servers ‘community and vanilla’ (…community is secretly portal though 🤪🤪)

[nimble compass]

I've been saying for years that if Dice would just bring the portal server to the main menu and rename it "server browser" people would stop complaining

but now with bf6 they want Portal to be Forge, so I can see why they won't rename it

[void crow]

You'll just go in a standardized robotic server with people that don't talk and just play lone Wolf

[versed rock]

Bingo, now can the secret dice dev in here report this and make changes.

[nimble compass]

they won't, because they want portal to be something bigger than just a server browser

[void crow]

Forge is more stupid than portal. It's like "you can only find weird stuff/created content"

[slow horizon]

need someone to help me with easter egg, dm

[whole forge]

I honestly don’t get what’s so hard to understand how Portal 2.0 works, it has 2 sections. Section 1 is the ingame server browser and hosting. Section 2 is the Website GODOT Based SDK for making custom experiences

[hollow harbor]

the rebranding is needed

its not a portal to old games anymore its a creative mode

[short peak]

unlock everything in portal and disable xp ✍️

[whole forge]

And even the server browser part has a custom filter just for the custom experiences

Like you want standart Conquest servers? Filter for Conquest

[short peak]

never was a fan of the custom servers tbh, suffers the same fate as anything else that allows it, corrupt server staff (this will probably change with portal being more like a forge from halo tho)

[hollow harbor]

i need a match maker with toggles

like " match me in x maps " or " dont favor the best ping "

[short peak]

map selection wasnt working in beta

[hollow harbor]

oceana gamers are stuck in empty lobbies with a match maker

[hollow harbor]

yeah it was a "favor x map , if it takes too long put me anywhere else" type of filter

we need actual real toggles and control over the experience

[fickle lotus]

empire state is the worst battlefield map i have ever played

[short peak]

I cant remember other maps well enough to make that statement but I can say empire bf6 was my least favorite map by far

[hollow harbor]

you havent played it with the ladder gadget yet

[short peak]

at least on conquest, empire rush was ok

[hollow harbor]

or the 20 other new gadgets we havent tested in the beta 🤡

[hollow harbor]

do you remember the C point ? yeah that is definetly designed with the ladder in mind

[fickle lotus]

altai range is a close contender tbf

[hollow harbor]

you weretn supposed to get camped by building campers , you were supposed to smoke and ladder up to them

[short peak]

I really dont remember a whole lot of small maps, I liked bazaar iirc, flood from bf4 wasnt like the worst

[fickle lotus]

making a whole map reliant on one gadget seems shitty design ngl, easily the most cancerous part was spawn being visible from one point lol

[hollow harbor]

welp the map is designed with a game flow in mind , we did not beta test that flow

[short peak]

I dont think empire was designed with ONLY the ladder in mind maybe like little gimicks here and there

[hollow harbor]

you couldnt ledge up to those places for a reason , i assume it was to force you to take a ladder

[normal echo]

Even as someone who likes the medium-smaller maps for more engagement.... yeah the NY map was awful in beta. Seems super unlikely they'll redesign it with the limited time before launch, too. But yeah.... I can see myself easily ending up on a 24/7 Cairo/Iberian server in portal

[fickle lotus]

I would die for a 'second assault' type dlc for bf6 bringing back maps like siege of shanghai with nomdern graphics

[hollow harbor]

mortars from enemy spawn to attack E

yeah the gadgets are 100% an experience changer my guy @fickle lotus

[short peak]

E spawn is already trolled from having 3 points have high ground from their spawn lmao

[fickle lotus]

This is why liberation peak was the goat map in the beta, medium ish with plenty of helicopter action available and flanking routes

[short peak]

you say this but dont forget how often people just dont use anything

[void crow]

Seasons in bf6 will probably take some maps back from previous titles seeing how a lot of people want them to come back

[fickle lotus]

No amount of gadgets will fix inherent flaws like literally seeing spawn from a capture point. They need to push the headquarters farther back or something bc its literally unplayable on conquest

[short peak]

I really think you're overestimating the usefulness of the ladder

[normal echo]

I really didn't like Lib Peak save on breakthrough... too open/too much running, vehicles where a bigger factor than I'd have preferred and a full 3/4 of the map was wide open sniper territory

[short peak]

lib peak breakthrough was a problem for sure

[fickle lotus]

I think breakthrough will benefit from a full 32v32 but i still enjoyed breakthrough on lib peak

[normal echo]

it definitely wasn't well balanced, but it was the only game mode I found fun for the map personally

[short peak]

I had fun on conquest liberation peak

[normal echo]

the NY map on the other hand, felt bad on every game mode =x conquest being the least bad

[short peak]

empire was not great

[hollow harbor]

lib peak was the most fun i had

cause it was a big battlefield map , engi was so much fun

[fickle lotus]

despite open weapons i actually feel like the classes are balanced in bf6, whereas in bf4 80 percent of people just run engineer or recon

[normal echo]

imo Cairo was the best map/my favorite, and I don't think I ever had a bad game there (save roofers), but I think I had the best moments in Iberian (just also had a few bad games there)

[hollow harbor]

classes freedom was amazing , i loved having the OP meta AR on recon

i hate when i got back to bf1

and no one in my team is using spotting flares and i have to obrez people while pushing i rather have the shotgun on the smg then flare

[normal echo]

I felt the opposite about open weapons, felt like open weapons just meant every single person had an AR. I feel like closed ironically had more weapon variety when I played it.

[hollow harbor]

yeah closed will eventually turn out the same where people use the meta class and meta wepaons on it

go in bf1 and every sweatlord is using the same 5 weapons on the same class

[void crow]

Shotgun / m4 / nvo / ak205 were the most played of the beta

[hollow harbor]

nvo ? what is that

[short peak]

source?

[hollow harbor]

the console community

[void crow]

All my deaths on 63 games 😂
I'm not 100% sure but ak205 had no recoil (and still has seeing leaks), shotgun was shotgun and m4 was very accruante when level 16.

[short peak]

[valid drift]

I died probably like once per match at most to shotguns
ak205 has low damage and people started realising that
m4 is inferior to nvo

[void crow]

BF6 beta weapons tier list in brief
Tier Weapons
A-Tier M4A1, M417 A2, M87A1, NVO-228E, KTS100 MK8
B-Tier M39 EMR, AK-205, SVK-8.6, M433, PW7A2
C-Tier P18, Melee Knife, SGX
D-Tier L110

From esportinsider

[hollow harbor]

are bros calling the ACE32 an nvo ?

😭 unc they're using the fake names for guns

[valid drift]

I'm calling the nvo an nvo. Blame dice

[hollow harbor]

😭 why are bros calling real life guns with fake names

[short peak]

did you even read the list they put the melee wep above the best smg

[valid drift]

Because they're fake guns

[hollow harbor]

didnt i just tell you its real name ?

[valid drift]

No

[hollow harbor]

unc im getting rage baited

[normal echo]

the knife wasn't even close to the best melee weapon. Medic paddles are like A- tier at worst

[valid drift]

Skill issue if you can't even write IWI Galil ACE 32 Spec

[short peak]

not even taking the gaming article weapon tierlist bait

[hollow harbor]

the ACE is not a galil lil bro

[valid drift]

Sure bro

[hollow harbor]

i dont fall for cheap baits , but delulu baiting is fun

also unc you're from NA , stop looking at tierlists thats an EU sweatlord thing

[valid drift]

(also the p18 definitely is F-tier)

[normal echo]

it's an everywhere sweatlord thing, tbh.... There where dozens of vids during beta about xxxx weapon/loadout is the best

[hollow harbor]

yeah only EU watches that

[normal echo]

was easy content farming for basically anyone who made a video, considering how popular this game is shaping up to be

[hollow harbor]

cause they want the meta from the get go to pad their KD up because they think thats the goal of the game

[normal echo]

the real meta is using streamer privilege to get 3 people to go engi and baby sit you driving a tank

[hollow harbor]

hmmm being a vehicle only streamer will get you 10 people in a clan stream sniping your existance out of the game

[tight prism]

I mean.

The goal of the game in cod is also securing objectives yet even in cod KD somehow is still relevant. Because it should be

[normal echo]

I feel like the odds of getting someone both watching your stream and coordinated enough to stream snipe you in a QM lobby are pretty tolerable

[tight prism]

A person with a KD of 0.38. For example, should never be in a lobby with a 1kd

[short peak]

0.4 kd and 1 kd are the same thing

[tight prism]

The hell they are

[short peak]

I can tell you're probably sporting a 1.3 kd

[nimble compass]

NVO is a reference to the Ukrainian version, the Fort-228, which is produced by NVO Fort

[tight prism]

Your not going to have a 0.4 KD and go drop 60 kills a match lmao

.80 is about average for most shooters. 1kd is slightly above

[nimble compass]

.8 is average? shouldn't 1.0 be the average?

[tight prism]

You'd think that but no

[short peak]

no the average can be below 1 lol

[nimble compass]

jeez people are bad lol

[tight prism]

On paper the average would always be 1 but some people just suck

[normal echo]

probably not tbh... the average player has to make up for the ultra talented guy like shroud just dropping 40+ every round on 1-2 deaths

[tight prism]

The average player isn't running into those guys lmao

[normal echo]

at least 40 of them are XD

[tight prism]

The worst I've seen honestly is just stacking

[hollow harbor]

the goal of games is entertainment lil bro not KD

[short peak]

the two are not mutually exclusive

[hollow harbor]

and the BR mode you were talking about is actually the gauntlet one not the actual BR

[hollow harbor]

i see NA uncs laughing their balls off going like 0-20

[tight prism]

I think people forget alot of times that it's a video game and you respawn, it's not fun to sit in 1 spot the entire match and anybody who says they have fun laying down and not doing anything the entire game is just trolling and lying

[normal echo]

it also doesn't count against your deaths, if you're revived right? So having a dedicated squad would give people a much better K/D ratio

[short peak]

yes and I see people laughing their ass off going 20-0

[whole whale]

since there's people above 2.0, the median is under 1.0, but global average should be around 1.0 if you dont count self death and respawns

[hollow harbor]

lil bro nobody said lay down , we said the goal of a game as an entertainment media is to entertain yourself

[tight prism]

I don't care. It's a BR. We don't want attack helicopters and tanks

[hollow harbor]

i'm starting to doubt your health if you actually also like MGSV unironically

[tight prism]

Ain't nobody gonna be on gauntlet lil bro