battlefield-6

[quiet furnace]

yeah I honestly don’t mind paying for cosmetics time to time, they just have to actually make sense

and also not be 20 dollars for a single skin

[dreamy crescent]

As long as if it’s not bs like celebrities and cartoons with the cosmetics we’re good

[brave herald]

I don't mind realistic cosmetics, I'd prefer not to have any at all.
But I'll take it over predatory p2w-adjacent monetization.

[jaunty estuary]

it's a message link, it directs me to the message

[smoky tulip]

Would that be something run through a web browser or a seperate application?

[brave herald]

ikr? Who'd be stupid enough to sell out with tha...Oh..

[jaunty estuary]

Pretty sure that's in game, but honestly ive no idea

[dark plover]

hopefully the battle pass gives out enough content, usually battle passes are enough

[whole whale]

It's annoying when you multi boot linux, have to enroll your own keys and stuff, and if people enter my home to change my bootloader I'll probably have more pressing issues than a videogame

[dark plover]

money

[jaunty estuary]

not enough info on the portal map creator tool to know for sure

[dreamy crescent]

😭😭😭

[quiet furnace]

No absolutely I agree, people shouldn’t have to do it, but for those who seek out to do it, it’s not difficult.

You can access BIOS through windows as well, which is great cause my keyboard is wireless so it doesn’t really turn on fast enough to access it through my splash screen :p

[smoky tulip]

Well.... at least they're not Ubisoft. So, the prices may be grounded too. Lol

[civic herald]

My friend tried their current id and it didn't work and then tried an older one and it worked

I think they changed their EA id recently

[late heath]

I could imagine it to be a separate download from the main game. Depending on the platform, it may be in the Tools section on steam, bundled with the game. That's how many server and editor SDKs are handled

[smoky tulip]

You think just PC? Or something similar to Gamemaster in Arma Reforger?

[dreamy crescent]

I mean the beta was fantastic imo it can’t get worst… right? … right?

[jaunty estuary]

I can't see that working and happening on a console

[acoustic plume]

great driver wheres981 is

[dark plover]

i enjoyed the first weekend, i feel like i didnt like the second weekend as much because i felt like rush wasnt for me and the newer smaller scale modes and while empire state grew on me, i feel like its too tight and small for a bf map

[smoky tulip]

I have been playing BF on console since BFBC2, but I play other games on PC. I just dont want to buy two BF6s. Lol

[dreamy crescent]

A true legend

[whole whale]

How did server hosting work in 2042? Do you still have to go through an official provider, can you self host or do ea provide instances?

[quiet furnace]

They seem to be listening to player consensus, at least a little bit

So hopefully not

[quiet furnace]

I’m still so upset about xdefiant

fuck Ubisoft. Why do I have to sign into uplay for UNO?

[jaunty estuary]

Not sure, fairly convinced though pc map makers will be able to share maps via crossplay of some kind so chaps on consoles can at least play on them, but honestly im just spitballing, ive no clue

[dreamy crescent]

I share that same thought

[civic scarab]

EA provides, that's also why at certain points they hit a cap and servers cant be created anymore

[late heath]

I feel you on that. It may be a minor thing, but I always liked rush, because the stakes were higher. If a m-com is toast, it's toast. There's no recapping. You could turn the tides at any point. I hope we'll be able to replace capture spots with M-Coms in portal and essentially make a "RushThrough"

[smoky tulip]

Thanks for the insight

[dark plover]

I liked rush in the older games, but not this one mainly cause i feel like the maps weren't designed for it and everything felt even more tighter

[dreamy crescent]

Im definitely getting that phantom edition tho, just waiting till it gets closer to launch

[civic herald]

Im going to host a server forever

[brave herald]

The thing that stood out to me immediately with the Rush on BF6 was the objectives were so close together.

[dark plover]

this

[whole whale]

I like the smaller maps, always been a cqc enjoyer

[brave herald]

And kind of like haphazardly placed.

[dark plover]

which is fine but i feel like all the maps for rush all feel small currently imo

[whole whale]

Hope there will be Frontline in bf6

[dreamy crescent]

What if we use the labs to create some of the old maps we all loved🤔

[civic scarab]

I could be wrong but I swear the mcoms timer was a lot faster mid way through the 2nd weekend

[dark plover]

ye it was faster they changed it

[whole whale]

Would be great if that's possible

[civic herald]

One of the rush maps was literally impossible

[brave herald]

I think it was BF3, but what was the map where you had to leap off a massive cliff and parachute to the objective?

[whole whale]

BF3 yea, something peak iirc

[twin sundial]

You mean one of the best bf maps ever

[brave herald]

I hope we get more stuff like that in the maps to come post-launch.

[dark plover]

or portal!

[brave herald]

Will portal-made content be intergrated into standard match making though?

[dreamy crescent]

Damavand peak is the name of that bf3 map

[whole whale]

Been really happy on how BF3 and 4 had support, hope itll be the same for 6

[dark plover]

i think they said they could verify user-created content and have them be featured

[acoustic plume]

Hopefully they remake some maps

[brave herald]

ye that's it. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/4/40/500m_Basejump_-_Hands_on.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20141118141203

oh, image perms lol.
Welp.
But ye that's the one.

[visual cape]

Only a bit more than a month until we get so blast some vehicles away boys

[whole whale]

Yea they also talked about a whitelist for user content so that you can still earn XP on it

Avoid splitting the community

[brave herald]

that'll be nice.
I just hope it doesn't lead to the issue I had with PC BF3.
Where every single server was just Metro Rush, in the tunnels only, max tickets.

[civic scarab]

Seeing a bf6 announcement when opening 2042
"GET READY BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT IN... 43 days" 😐

[dark plover]

ye. as much as i like those maps, operation locker and all, i perfer to have variety atleast and play all the game's content to the fullest if possible

[whole whale]

The metro h24 issue was late in the game lifecycle, since there isnt many full server still running, and a lot of server ran a plugin that faked player count making it hard to find real matches

[late heath]

Locker 24/7 Shotgun only Servers calling

[acoustic plume]

42 days I believe good sir

[visual cape]

Oh in thought it was october 10th

[weary grail]

but i want it now 😭

[dreamy crescent]

Nah I hated those servers that had shotguns “banned”

[acoustic plume]

your one of them..

[brave herald]

I like BF because of the mult-staged content.
Not the CQC gunplay.
I'd literally go play CoD for that.

I wanna be in a blackhawk providin' coverin' fire, circlin' the objective.
In a tank pushin' the objective for the infantry.
A support goin' into danger to keep the squad up.

Not blastin' shotgun shells in a cramped hallway 24/7 lol

[tired stirrup]

Don't want to be stuck in Metro 24/7 where admins are intentionally swapping teams around so it was all top players slaughtering the other side? Where's the fun in ever doing anything else?

[whole whale]

those were great to farm weapons, pistol/bolt/shotgun only server

[civic scarab]

badmins reigning supreme for yet another 5 years LETS GOO

[dark plover]

I like the openness of it and the environmental areas you can fight in
also the millitaristic aesthetic
I like the big feeling of it atleast

[acoustic plume]

every shotgun user can get this work

[brave herald]

Yeah I played it on console for awhile.
And eventually moved to PC gaming and picked it up later on.

[late heath]

It's what I mainly used them for, to farm class and weapon XP.

Idk why someone would willingly play that point-and-click adventure mode other for that reason

[dreamy crescent]

Bro bf3 on release on Xbox 360 was peak

[fathom dome]

What if all of us just put Battlefield 6 down and made a CS2 team!!! Think about it, it'd be like 500k vs 5 we'd win every game!!!!!!!!!!

[dark plover]

yeah whats nice about battlefield is that you can contribute without killing
like you can play it casually and just revive people like BF1

[brave herald]

it definitely was.
BC2 as well.

[maiden fog]

Does BF6 have a battlepass?

[fathom dome]

Ye

[fossil anvil]

Every vehicle I drive/pilot becomes a kamakaze vehicle.

[maiden fog]

Free?

[brave herald]

It most likely will, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a free and paid one.

[acoustic plume]

I remember the beta like it was yesterday

[fathom dome]

I sure hope so

[dark plover]

i dont think so

[whole whale]

bf4 gave me littlebird ptsd, i dont want any air vehicules in my games

[urban robin]

@brave herald who is your pfp? she looks very pretty lol

[dark plover]

cause phantom edition comes with battle pass

[maiden fog]

Only 1 battlepass for like 3 years until the next game drops?

[brave herald]

Was also disappointed to see you spawn in the air for Jets.
But I quickly remembered why I should never go into Jets.
Immediately backflipped and crashed.

[dark plover]

ai hoshino from oshi no ko

[brave herald]

Fan art of ^

[fathom dome]

worst manga ever

[dark plover]

if you dont spend anything else, prob

[urban robin]

thanks big dawg 🔥

[dreamy crescent]

I bet 20$ that Irish will be on bf6

[dark plover]

i think he is right from that campaign teaser or idk who that person with the beanie else would be

[urban robin]

"Ai Hoshino「 星 ほし 野 の アイ, Hoshino Ai?」 was the titular character and the poster child of Oshi no Ko. She was the lead idol of the original B-Komachi and mother of Aqua and Ruby. As an idol, she lived a life of deceit by pretending to genuinely love her fans."

damn bruh

[maiden fog]

How much will it cost??

[dark plover]

yah i recommend watchin it

[brave herald]

Irish? Nah.
We gunna get CoD crossover.
Ghost and Kim Kardashian.

[whole whale]

Only thing we know is that there will be one at release, no idea if theres a normal/premium split, but there will probably be more, its free money for EA

[urban robin]

since you recommend it, i have no choice

[dark plover]

your typical $10 bucks i assume like how every game has done it

[tired stirrup]

I was trying to ignore it until you said that title. That first episode still haunts me...

[dark plover]

ye mood!

[fathom dome]

Don't watch Oshi No Ko if you hate sad movies

[urban robin]

wow ☠️

[short peak]

No one hears a word, they say

[fathom dome]

I was reading the manga and then someone spoiled me the ending when it came out, dropped it right then and there nuh uh

[urban robin]

i uhhh... im very much into sad movies so ill watch 🤣

hold on is this like a really depressing movie?

[brave herald]

Would be nice if we could get community votes on returning maps.
But I feel like that'll be a cope dream that won't work as intended.

[dark plover]

the problem is, i know that operation metro and locker are gonna go first

[short peak]

I prefer new fun big maps rather than reusing old ones but maybe a hot take

[civic scarab]

I would assume there is a paid track as they advertised it as a "BF PRO token" with the 25 tier skips

[tired stirrup]

Yeah that would be fun to have back

[dark plover]

they did say they are gonna bring back returning maps through popularity

[fathom dome]

It's not a movie but yeah, it's terrible for someone like me lmao

[urban robin]

"Yes, Oshi no Ko is a sad series known for its dark and depressing themes, exploring the harsh realities of the entertainment industry, including exploitation, trauma, suicide, and violence, which can evoke strong sad feelings in the audience. While it has moments of hope and a bittersweet overall tone after the first episode, much of the story delves into heavy, emotional subjects and has a sorrowful ending, according to some viewers and critics." omg

[civic herald]

We shouldnt have custom servers

[dark plover]

its a dark anime, but it still got its charm and fun moments, its not completely dark, but its still dark

[urban robin]

is it because you're cheerful?

[civic herald]

The people dont deserve it

[brave herald]

I don't mind Metro as a full map..but once we get into the actual metro...and let people lock us into it...

[urban robin]

alright im sold 🤣

[short peak]

I don't think portal should give xp

[dark plover]

bruh

[civic scarab]

Not sure of the full extent of portal but someone is definitely gonna make random maps here and there

[fathom dome]

The opposite, that kind of stuff sends me into spirals, screw that! Have fun with it if you like it though

[acoustic plume]

let's hope for noshar canals

[knotty grotto]

Kj on the anime grind now?

[short peak]

Just make it fully unlocked let people use what they want but influencing main progression doesn't make a lot of sense to me

[civic scarab]

GOLMUD 24/7 BF6 EDITION

[fathom dome]

I hate Golmud but I really could go for a match rn

[brave herald]

I'd also like big maps, but I think "We've included 2 new maps + the return of a fan favorite" would be nice.
Albeit, a tall ask that will never happen.

[urban robin]

well, i did watch Violet Evergarden, its got some... quite dark moments but appparently its not as dark as other animes ive heard of 💀

[tired stirrup]

Clearly you don't understand what Portal actually is...

[urban robin]

always have been 😎 but i game first, anime for the night 🔥

[knotty grotto]

U got that right

[short peak]

What is portal then, other than custom games

[urban robin]

BIG DAWG! 🔥 🔥

[tired stirrup]

Nah, there's some truly traumatizing stuff out there

[fathom dome]

That one has a happy enough ending at least

[brave herald]

Portal is basically BF's Forge from Halo, no?

[urban robin]

yea, i think i cried once lol, probably cos i didnt sleep properly....

[acoustic plume]

it's the positioning

[crimson gate]

But even better

[tropic arch]

im guessing i missed the lab test

[urban robin]

oh yeah for sure. but i feel like violet didn't really learn from it.... i had the impression that she had to move on from her colonel, and accepting whatever happened was how you could recover from it. the ending ruined it imho

[civic scarab]

portals is gonna be a mix of both official and custom servers. However because there won't be persistent servers, players can toggle the option and host a vanilla game

[brave herald]

I do think it'd be cool to see Dev-made Portal stuff.
Even if it's silly stuff like we saw in the trailer the other day.

[tired stirrup]

Saying Portal is just custom games is like calling a Ferrari just a car. It dumbs it down. Portal itself is how people will have custom servers they can swap to HC or do wild settings. Certain experiences will be verified to give full XP but they can't be changed a ton to do that. Anything extreme won't give full XP. Running the hardcore verified experience would be no different than playing hardcore settings in BF4.

[short peak]

Ok so it's custom games

[valid drift]

Ferrari's are just cars

[whole whale]

non persistent server is kinda sad, used to meet people playing the same server

[crimson gate]

You can create persistent portal servers but they will have crappy xp rates

[tired stirrup]

Yes in the simplest definition but it doesnt compare to a Ford fiesta does it?

[short peak]

No multi-player games that I'm aware of offer xp for custom games, I don't think battlefield should be different

[short peak]

Ford fiesta is also just a car

[whole whale]

the ford fiesta probably do more things than the ferrari ;)

[humble arch]

Portal without old adkats functionality (vote kick , vote ban, balancer) is like a half-baked cake

[valid drift]

Ford fiestas are probably way better bang for the buck

[brave herald]

I'm gunna chalk it up to bein' an Open Beta that literally anyone could play.
But I ain't the only one who felt the game felt more individual based than squad based?
Like it didn't matter if you ran with your squad or just did a 180 and went elsewhere.

[dark plover]

nah portal does tho, just depends on the ruleset

[tired stirrup]

Ah so you're just intentionally obtuse. Battlefield is just a game, just play pong.

[civic scarab]

What makes a vanilla server with no modifications and persistent servers switched on different from custom when EA still assist with hosting
OCE 2042 suffered because it automatically reduced it to moderate for adding bots

[short peak]

I know I'm saying it shouldn't

[dark plover]

ohh. i mean i get what you meant cause of the XP boosting servers.. but i think it doesnt hurt to let people play the way they want and you know youre spending time on it already and stuff so i think it should still

[short peak]

You don't have to insult me because you don't understand my very simple point and you're trying to complicate it by making a bunch of car analogies that don't make sense

[tropic arch]

did i miss the labs?

[short peak]

Fair enough, I just don't think custom games giving xp is good but opinions and what not

[dark plover]

ye thats fair i get u, like making it more rewarding and deserved that way. im pretty casual so im happy to see other opportunities to get XP without playin official matchmaking

[civic scarab]

portals or browser lists basically lifeline the lower populated areas
It's what kept our 1-2 servers on bf1, 4, and 5 alive. Going strong

[short peak]

Halo 3 people played forge because they didn't care if they got xp it was just straight up fun

[dark plover]

i believe portal will be the same way too, but the xp is nice so that you dont miss out on stuff while spending time on portal atleast which gives everyone more of a incentive to play it

[short peak]

Well you're not missing out on anything the game isn't going anywhere lol

[dark plover]

its more of just time on progression which people cater to the most

people dont wanna play COD campaigns cause of that, which is silly

[brave herald]

did halo 3 have exp-based unlocks?
genuinely do not remember.

[short peak]

Don't think so but levels always mean something to a portion of players

[tired stirrup]

It was an observation, not an insult. You do that well enough on your own.

[brave herald]

The only issue I see if community tryin' to weasel a "XP farm" type map into the official playlist with xp enabled.

[short peak]

Ok well can I observe your stats so I know what kind of player you are

[dark plover]

ye, but i heard they said they will lookout for that

[tired stirrup]

And it would likely get shut down quick like in the past.

[civic scarab]

oooooh you gonna take that

[quasi pelican]

Who else thinks this beta was the best yet

[fathom dome]

I honestly don't care how other people get their XP, it really doesn't affect me at all

[brave herald]

It's the only beta I was in, but it was fun.
I legit hadn't touched FPS games since MW2/BF3 era.
And the bf6 beta was so fun it has been in my head since xD

[olive basalt]

no bro it literally sucks bro it was literally actually Call of Duty bro ong fr fr bro

[acoustic plume]

bc2 still tops it

[slender epoch]

Add team prox chat

[dark plover]

nah fr.. i got AX post-con depression, now this on top

[whole whale]

armors and cosmetics iirc

[olive basalt]

Wow-wee! A fully released game is better than a pre-release open beta! who would've thunked?

[quasi pelican]

i missed that one I came along BFBC2

[brave herald]

I do have my issues with it.
But I'll keep those on the down-low until the actual game is out.

[acoustic plume]

I fw your profile thought so real

[slender epoch]

I heard a fire broke out at AX or smth about ventilation lol

[short peak]

It's also not better

[acoustic plume]

stay in school guys

[civic scarab]

Labs reopening and then proceeding to cap it to only NA and EU as always
LET ME IN

[dark plover]

ye but i think it was outside of the con i believe and resolved quickly

[dark plover]

mooooood

[slender epoch]

Typical ax

[acoustic plume]

bc3 will be my last bf then it's wraps. let's hope dice stays grounded

[cold panther]

where are the fucking trenches in mirak valley? I just watched a 32 minute long gameplay and couldnt see it

[acoustic plume]

on reddit or YouTube

[olive basalt]

So if BC3 never releases... guess you're playing every new Battlefield until the end of time

[cold panther]

false advertising 💔

[brave herald]

Trenches? what is this ww1?

[short peak]

Yeah why would you want trenches lol

[cold panther]

??

[brave herald]

For 360NoScope Assault's with a shotty to pop in and out of.

[cold panther]

apparently you havent seen the mirak valley map main picture

[acoustic plume]

starting a sequel is instant gratification. I oppose

[brave herald]

No I have not.

[civic scarab]

the milsim/grounded theme community would throw a tantrum but there needs to be a couch vehicle somewhere

[cold panther]

it's literally in it

[cold panther]

https://imgur.com/a/NVNhQtG

here it is

[brave herald]

Ah, part of me feels like they just didn't go to that side of map for the gameplay? no idea.

[cold panther]

could be but that's strange

[olive basalt]

eeeerm, that's a BF1 screenshot, sweatie

[cold panther]

bf 6 is amazing but the maps are the bad side of this. Nothing can be perfect in this world

[brave herald]

exploits aside, I think Liberation Peak was probably the worst map.
It's so 1 sided that it felt unnaturally unfair.
But maybe that's part of the realism.
When you're defendin' your land, you will naturally make and use the terrain to your advantage?

[civic herald]

Guys you arent allowed to talk abt labs NDA

[brave herald]

the beta should be fine tho, no?

[slender epoch]

At least everyone agrees fort vaux is the best bf map ever created

[civic scarab]

me when I get someone else to sign the NDA and therefore am allowed to talk about it

some call it fraud, I say its temporarily borrowing my identity sharing is caring after all

[short peak]

Kinda true I think conquest is fine breakthrough is insanely op for defense

[brave herald]

I'll take the bait.
Pretty sure that's illegal!

[boreal monolith]

2042 have double xp for this bp? nice

[cold panther]

arras from bf 5 is one of my favorite maps

[jaunty estuary]

every weekend they do

[low spade]

Breakthrough we smashed through pretty consistently until the last point. The defense on that point is so hard to push haha

[brave herald]

Ye so many games on that map for Breakthrough, just start and end on that first point.

Way too many snipers have advantage, and the entire team can just look into the spawn of the Attackers.

[civic herald]

If theres good tank you win breakthrough attack

[low spade]

Gotta just throw smokes like crazy and push up with the tank

[civic herald]

I dont like how tanks act like mobile spawns in this game tho

[slender epoch]

You need to have 2 squads push separate sides and have a decent tank to help keep glinters at bay

[brave herald]

In my experience, no vehicle ever left spawn for the Attackers.
Too many rocketeerin' Snipers.

[sacred cedar]

Unfortunately all tank are bastards

[short peak]

No u

[civic herald]

Tru

[brave herald]

I kinda wish you could only spawn on leader still

[civic herald]

We have tank main in chat

[brave herald]

My highlight of beta was snipin' a heli out of the air with a tank shell

[civic scarab]

I just want a nice night map with subtle rain preferrably in an urban area

[spare socket]

Tanks are resources.

Become a sandbox enjoyer and use all the tools at your disposal

[short peak]

Peak

[low spade]

Spawning on squad leaders would make attacking literally impossible

[acoustic plume]

my smaw is waiting to meet you

[valid drift]

I think spawning on squad should be "slower". It's too easy to get away for 3 seconds and get your whole squad to spawn on you

[brave herald]

Bein' able to add weather effects to existin' maps would be sick.
Cairo with heavy sandstorm.
Empire State with thunderstorm.
etc

[civic herald]

Tanks would be more fair if die in 1-2 rockets

[short peak]

They do

[low spade]

Trolling for sure

[spare socket]

You know there's like... a weakspot on tanks right

[brave herald]

Ye, also makes gettin' rid of them almost impossible.

[civic herald]

Cap

[slender epoch]

Darcy what tanks ever do to you 😭

[low spade]

Two rockets to the back king

[brave herald]

Hit the tank from the back.

[short peak]

Darcy is my biggest fan so he just hates tanks because I like them

[fringe sonnet]

anyone else realize they made assault a cod class and pushed medic onto support to facilitate that? Overkill and stims lmao.

[brave herald]

oh you said that.

[civic herald]

They just sit in one place and farm kills they dont help push rlly

[low spade]

COD COD COD COD COD COD COD COD COD COD COD

[clever imp]

Tanks would be more fair if I could grab their dog tags too

[civic scarab]

Oh no... the defending team has a tank on breakthrough.
How did that happen

[brave herald]

Was pretty obvious, yes.

[slender epoch]

Cus they don’t have aps yet

[short peak]

Lmao

[low spade]

They do have APS lol

[slender epoch]

Just smoke

[low spade]

wait, Armor piercing shells or protection system

[short peak]

Protection system

[slender epoch]

Protection

[civic scarab]

Parachute spawn

[fringe sonnet]

they literally said, make assault bait for cod players, and force battlefield players to play the other roles. (but support is better for attacking points anyway because infinite heals/ammo/cover is better than a stim and an op shotgun.)

[low spade]

I felt like when I was tanking, 70% of the tanks I fought didn't know you had two sets of shells. yeah, active protection system will change the game a bit

[short peak]

I played all of beta on tanks and didn't know they had 2 shells. So

[low spade]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[slender epoch]

Parachuting tanks from endgame dlc was peak

[dark plover]

No resupply (scavenger) tho sob

[civic herald]

Tank main ewww

[low spade]

it's dead center of your screen when driving what shells you have selected. Armor piercing or multi-purpose

[brave herald]

I hope they don't make you spawn in air for Jets in all maps.
And possibly even change it for Lib. Peak

[fringe sonnet]

nothing beats apc/transport chopper drop-pods from 2142.

[stiff osprey]

On Cairo so we can get ontop of the roofs

[valid drift]

That's never coming back

[short peak]

Pookie I am driving to objectives and perma looking for enemies I didn't see anything else, also I didn't come from 2042 before I took a long break, if I was playing 2042 before beta I probably would have noticed

[spare socket]

I'm of the pov that the best way to play the game is to use the full sandbox in a way that helps your team the most.
in the beta:
-Play support for cover, the broken bag, and revives
-play engineer to take out vehicles from a distance or repair if your team is using vehicles
-play recon for the c-4 to take out vehicles/campers, use the spawn beacon for your team, or get info for your team with the UAV and that radar beacon thing (forget the name)
-use vehicles if your team needs them at key points or if they're going unused
-switch weapons based on the environment/problems you're dealing with
-never play assault

[acoustic plume]

shitters tier list
2. shotgunners

1. tanks only

[low spade]

😭 😭 😭 😭 Yeah, two types of shells. Made a huge difference when fighting vehicles

[spare socket]

fyi these are based on the beta. The spawn beacon moving to assault and launch stuff will change things obv

[short peak]

1. People like you with low kd

[valid drift]

Love me some shotguns

[brave herald]

Admittedly idk who's call was the right one.
But I remember someone ragin' so hard at me in chat because I wouldn't push the objective in the tank.
Opposed to protectin' our existin' objective with it.

They were goin' on and on and on.
Even about wantin' me to take dmg to repair it for points lol.

[civic herald]

Tank main saying they have high kd smh

[short peak]

Well whatever the default one was what I used

[acoustic plume]

your kd is higher because of it

[fringe sonnet]

support should be the foundation your team fights from. Not running around reviving people. Beacon should go to support, and defib should go to assault. Battlefield 3 and 4 style. (beacon used to be a squad leader item but we dont have those anymore, support should get it)

[low spade]

Multi-purpose. The anti-tank has absolutely no explosion or radius damage so you couldn't kill anything with it beyond vehicles

[brave herald]

Idk where the data came from but I saw a YT say one of the maps had an "airstrip" or w/e
I won't expect much, but it was a nice flavour older games had.

[short peak]

I can't wait for full stats to come out and I have more objectives than you anti tank players

[spare socket]

I like the idea they're going for the assault for launch tbh.

The assault is the breacher/push leader

[spare socket]

the issue is in the beta they didn't have any of the actual breach tools like the ladder or the beacon lol

[fringe sonnet]

I can push and breach better as a support with infinite ammo/cover/heals.

so that makes 0 sense. i play assault and i run out of ammo and die.

[valid drift]

I want my 6 man squads back

[spare socket]

you can't breach better than a ladder that gives literal high ground and a beacon to respawn your team

[low spade]

Tanks should be pushing or defending the most important choke point of the map. Defending A is worthless and you're wasting the biggest resource otherwise

[tame mortar]

And they have the respawn beacon

[civic scarab]

that was miraq

[short peak]

Yep, c point on liberation

[spare socket]

yeah.

[fringe sonnet]

The ladder will not give high ground that cannot be accessed in other means so it's effectively invalid.

[brave herald]

Hopefully it stays on ground when you spawn in.
It's nice bein' able to actually land jets for repairs too.

[spare socket]

you don't get on top of buildings bruh. You just need the top floor

[low spade]

Why ever use a jeep to get anywhere when you can just walk?

[short peak]

True, lot easier to shoot a jeep than a person

[brave herald]

I pushed home objective, then camped mid objective.
But they wanted me to rush into enemy spawn, through deadzone, and capture their home objective.
Eventually I just listened to em, and we got lit up and died.
"Worst Tank driver ever ffs"

[spare socket]

like you can't tell me that you're actually gonna push through the bottom floor of point C on iberian offensive with like 10 people on that point with your squad.

That shizz is suicicde

[tame mortar]

Surely the battlefield community will create good maps and not do the whole 10000% dmg multiper servers again...

[somber gulch]

Normally europe players can play between 7-9 pm but i think its not for everyone

[short peak]

You never listen to anyone else but yourself, people that don't play vehicles do not understand and only act out of anger

[spare socket]

it would be loads better to have an assault push the top floor with the ladder and hide his spawn beacon in the bathroom somewhere and then you set up with your supports and push from there

[brave herald]

I kinda wish jeeps had a bit more protection on em.
It's so fun to drive those around with a gunner.
But either you or the gunner just instantly die if like, more than 1 person fires at you lol.

[brave herald]

Ye I didn't even bother respondin' to em.
And also the mid point got capped once we left too lmao.

[short peak]

Do not under any circumstances get out of your tank to help people, and do not listen to other people on when to push up, unless you're all doing it as a unit

[civic scarab]

risky move to park a jet to do repairs I just know that if you ever think of getting out and using a blowtorch some goblin is gonna snatch it and crash it within 3 seconds because they dont know how to fly

[spare socket]

the fact the bf6 devs made all the assaults gadgets be the "solo" gadgets in the beta isn't the assault's fault lol

[tame mortar]

That's the point of jeeps, they are fast but can easily get shot down

[brave herald]

I rather die than leave the tank to repair it.
Cuz 99% of the times, someone is stealin' it.

[spare socket]

ah yes my 2 grenade launchers. How useful for my team (admittedly the fire one is neat for breaching)

[short peak]

Yeah bevause the only thing protecting it (the tank) is gone now so everyone immediately pushes it

[fringe sonnet]

Support is the foundation your team fights form. Asssault is pusher/medic.
Support should get beacon. Supports should be holding a position and fortifying that position for your team. Not running around reviving. Assault stim is probably best used for reviving than anything else.

As the game is right now, i will never play assault. I can top frag 6 games in a row using support with a carbine. infinite ammo/cover/heals provides more in offense than a grenade launcher and a shotgun do, over time.

[valid drift]

The smoke one is absolutely goated, what are you on

[acoustic plume]

this is a rarity in itself

[low spade]

Never leave the tank if it's gonna blow up because the enemy can take it lmfao. I lost so many cairo's because the enemy had 3-4 tanks because of people running out

[brave herald]

I mean I get that.
But at least in my experience in the beta.
They weren't really any better than gunnin' someone down yourself.
They just helped people rush the opposite map before the enemy team got there lol

[spare socket]

tbf I feel like in the beta nobody should be running regular nades.

4 people running smokes with one support is good

[valid drift]

I don't think I can ever have enough smokes

[short peak]

I think in the earlier battlefields jeep weren't 1 shot but it put them on like 5% hp so you could get out

[brave herald]

The first thing I did was swap frags for Smokes.

[valid drift]

Smoke nades, smoke launcher, smoke underbarel. Can I trade my secondary for a smoke pistol?

[short peak]

Just shoot it really fast

[spare socket]

a smoke pistol would be kinda busted ngl

[tame mortar]

If you position yourself correctly in chokepoints and have a bit of luck you and your friend can get up to 10+ kills before dying on the jeep, it's just a positioning thing

[fringe sonnet]

Support should get beacon. Assaults should be medics. But they turned assault into the cod player bait class giving them overkill and stims. It's pathetic. I guess its okay because lmgs are so trash most support wont use them anyway? So i guess most supports will be playing psuedo-assault like i do with a carbine.

[brave herald]

True.
I just kinda wish it withstood a bit more than it did in beta.

[low spade]

I think the thing that makes jeeps so useless on liberal peak is the AT-missiles from aircraft. So many times I watched a 3 stack get MELTED by a jet 2 miles away LMFAOO

[short peak]

Thamzam baiting again

[civic scarab]

supports with ammo, defibs, AND beacon

lmao peak idea

[low spade]

Support should be the only class with gadgets.

[fringe sonnet]

supports should lose the defib. can you read?

[short peak]

Take everyone's gadget and give it to support, I want my support keyboard to go from 1-9 with gadgets

[tame mortar]

I mean I kinda agree, but i don't really mind of the outcome

[civic scarab]

nah I am the defib

[spare socket]

assault: breacher/push leader

support: cover and foundation of ammo/healing

engineer: vehicle repair and destruction

recon: c-4 and information.

[low spade]

Closed weapons except for support too. Should have access to all weapons

[spare socket]

if anything for launch the recon class is the one that needs buffs. make that radar beacon have a larger radius for losing the spawn beacon

[civic scarab]

our definition of charge is off but it usually ends in a revive

[short peak]

I see we're in the larping stage of the day

[brave herald]

I kinda wish Engineer got mortars.
Make em like a Demolition expert.
I don't need my healer and ammo refiller sittin' 5000m off of the objective lobbin' nades in the enemy spawn.

[low spade]

Battledads are out here whining again because it's not bf4 and their wife hadn't divorced them

[short peak]

Mortars do be coming though

[tame mortar]

Won't work anymore due to assault getting the new gadgets but, assault would heal, support would be the one to carry ammo, and the rest of the classes stay the same

[brave herald]

Or the recon, since they usually sit far back anyway.

[fringe sonnet]

Assault - medic pusher.

Support - foundation your team fights from. supression, team gadgets. beacon. deployable shield. ammo.

Engineer- anti-vehicle

Recon - close range infiltrator or long range sniper.

This has been battlefields bread and butter for Battlefield 2142, Battlefield 3 and 4.

[short peak]

Mentions the worst battlefield game

[low spade]

Why would the medic be the pusher lmfao, they should be BEHIND their team

[fringe sonnet]

battlefield 3 and 4, widely called the best battlefields used this exact system.

[civic scarab]

is it really support if I dont have the necessary equipment to support my team
maybe we should just replace the class system with support
IT WAS ALL SUPPORT

[tame mortar]

Exactly, I don't get why support has healing and ammo

[brave herald]

Honestly, Recon not bein' locked to a sniper is the only part of open-weapons I liked.

[short peak]

People that have nostalgic based opinions probably should keep them to themselves

[low spade]

Nah, the best battlefield was the one when I was 16 and didn't have bills. For some, that's bf2, for some, thats bf3-4.

[honest garnet]

Excited for Battlefield 7.

[spare socket]

I'm ngl the one reason I want the devs to gut open weapons and commit to weapon locking is literally one thing.

I want 0 degen assaults running a sniper+shotgun/carbine and taking the heli to get to high ground positions and ramming that shizz into the ground after parachuting. Then placing their spawn beacon there

This is a horrendously degen style of play the recon was already doing sometimes. It pisses me off when a camper is willing to sabatoge team resources for their camping.

[brave herald]

I don't really like the portable spawn tho

[spare socket]

At least lock the snipers to recon bro. It's not hard.

[fringe sonnet]

That's why squad leaders used to have it only. It was balanced.

[sage loom]

Could not agree more, nostalgia in gaming is getting out of hand ngl

[short peak]

Thet aren't locking one weapon to one class, it's either open or closed

[spare socket]

Like we can all agree on this right?

[low spade]

No lmfao

[spare socket]

I'm saying BARE MINIMUM lock the sniper to the recon.

Maximum, commit to closed weapons.

[civic scarab]

dont be sad, thats just how it works out sometimes

[tame mortar]

Goes both ways, the same people that want new systems in the newer games don't like battlefields movement system getting faster or slightly changed

[brave herald]

Engi+ sniper was kinda annoying in Lib.Peak ngl

[short peak]

No they won't lock one weapon to one class be fr

[fringe sonnet]

Lmfao. Nostalgia in gaming. AKA dev team makes something amazing, dev team leaves, new dev team takes its place and starts making something entirely different with the same name but we're supposed to just stfu and accept the new changes.

[spare socket]

In no realm should an assault have a sniper, shotgun, and spawn beacon

[short peak]

Says who

[fringe sonnet]

Battlefield 3 and 4.

[low spade]

You're upset because a game is different than it was 12+ years ago lol

[spare socket]

says the apache helicopter they railed into the ground to get in their camping position

[short peak]

Wait until you learn what game this is (it's not 3 or 4)

[civic scarab]

I'm more afraid of the thermobaric launcher

[brave herald]

I also personally don't think you should run faster with a knife lol.
Like you are STILL carryin' the gun and pistol. Why are you now faster?

[slender epoch]

Alright dice it’s time to let me fly the cfa 44 nosferatu just me gl everyone

[sage loom]

Thats how you want to see it and thats fine but so far from this game thats not what i see, this is indeed a battlefield game

[spare socket]

you know I'm right

[fringe sonnet]

Im upset because a game is pretending to be a game series from 12 years ago and is explictily using nostalgia by keeping the name of its predecessors to make money.

IF ITS FUCKING CALLED BATTLEFIELD I EXPECT IT TO BE LIKE PREVIOUS BATTLEFIELD GAMES THE FUCK?

[tame mortar]

Exactly this, the older systems were good but they just need to be improved on, not change the whole formula of battlefield

[low spade]

Pretending lol

[spare socket]

don't act like this shizz doesn't happen. It's genuinely stupid when it does

[mint citrus]

we should highkey get jetpacks in bf6

[short peak]

I don't care if weapons are open or closed but I think out of the 2 sides of the arguments closed make less sense than open

[low spade]

I think they should add wall jumps

[hallow geode]

I just realized the lady that looks like zoe zaldana that was talking in that campaign preview. Sounds like Bangalore from apex

[sinful pewter]

So you think an assault class being able to use snipers makes more sense than an assault class only being able to use assault weapons?

[spare socket]

snipers should not be on a class that has the spawn beacon. It's a design mistake in 4 and future titles that leads to stupid gameplay decisions on an individual that actively harm the team

[slender epoch]

at the same time it’s meant to be fun !! Not realistic or hyper milsimbjuay use the bf4 class system give medics ARs to entice more medic play

[civic scarab]

we've heard you loud and clear, we're gonna make sure it's like previous battlefield games
so we're gonna make it like 2042 day 1 patch

[dark plover]

I believe mortars are coming back, not sure which class

[fringe sonnet]

PERFECT

[short peak]

Like for example I see people complaining about snipers sitting back doing nothing, then those same people want to only restrict snipers to recon, so if you have 10 recon, all 10 of them sit back and snipe. Vs open weapons you have 10 recon class, maybe 7 of them snipe and 3 are close quarters with an AR or carbine

[low spade]

10 snipers never using their c4 or any of their gadgets because they can only use snipers lmfao

[short peak]

So that's less sitting back being useless, it's literally benefiting everyone

[tame mortar]

Definitely engineers, the balancing team wouldn't be stupid enough to add morters to the supports

[fringe sonnet]

Recon is simple. You give them close pdw weapons, like an mp7 for close range infiltrator class. OR you give them snipers. No carbine/ar

[civic herald]

Sniper need something to replace spawn beacon

[slender epoch]

They aren’t necessarily doing nothing lol . Spotting is absolutely broke. Atm

[brave herald]

The biggest reasons I've seen people avocatin' for closed weapon.

1. Class Identity (which is kinda ruined when all 4 classes look the same other than the weapon).
2. It keeps everyone from just copyin' the 1358058th "BIS LOADOUT IN BATTLEFIELD6 CLICK NOW!" with a "123-0 KDA!!" thumbnail. And effectively makin' there be no reason to use anything else, or even play anything else.

But on the other side, open weapon does mean people who go "I wanna play support but I hate LMGs, I'll just play Assault instead" actually play support now...albeit as an Assault...

[short peak]

I know I'm just catering to them for an example

[sinful pewter]

im pretty sure you can use a carbine on closed weapons as recon lol

[spare socket]

tbf keeping the dmrs, carbines, and shotguns open seems fair

[brave herald]

I heard they were comin' in, but I heard onto supports.
Who knows, beta/alpha info can change the moment you heard it.

[short peak]

So I also said AR because I anticipated someone saying this

Call me omnipotent

[low spade]

Mortars used to be on support in bf3

[acoustic plume]

moving from recon to engineer is going to suck! all these vehicles, not a lot of people willing to the work

[sage loom]

Brother calm down, if you want it to be exactly like previous battlefield games just go play those... this is 2025! adapt, enjoy and let them do their thing, game is looking stable / polished, sound is amazing, graphics are awesome ( things you would expect from battlefield ) the setting is fitting and the content so far looks rich

[brave herald]

It's a fair point.

[low spade]

Everything new is bad, everything old is good

These people probably HATED bf4 on release too

[sinful pewter]

have you watched movies before?

[short peak]

Soyjack emoji would go hard here

[slender epoch]

Wait till the rest of the ARs come out some of them might be op

[brave herald]

You can almost spell good with old.
you can't even get close with new.

[spare socket]

Hell there were people in bf3 beta calling it out for "cOpYinG cOD"

[acoustic plume]

this is the start of a money wanted era. our time is limited pal

[spare socket]

same nonsense arguments different generation I say

[short peak]

Spoiler alert every bf game was probably hated on launch as was every cod as was every god of war and every racing game

[civic scarab]

if we're doing closed weapons, I dont want LMGS, I am a medic and I should be readily able to rush to the injured and supply my goodies.
THIS 150KG PIECE OF JUNK IS EXHAUSTING AND IN MY WAY
But I can us an m4 regardless so I'm good

[low spade]

Okay? Do something you enjoy, instead of spending all your time being upset about new fun things.

[mint citrus]

since like either bc2 or bf3 theres just random hate

[spare socket]

given the bunny hopping and slide cancelling being removed is valid.

[brave herald]

Are you tryin' to imply that gamers just...hate everything..?
/s

[short peak]

It's almost like... no wait it can't be

[civic scarab]

yes, the answer is yes

[low spade]

That's not BF. That's people watching ragebait/engagement bait and forming their opinions based on what a popular youtuber told them how they should feel about something

[acoustic plume]

what's your favorite bf game

[short peak]

Bf6 beta is my favorite and it's not even close

[slender epoch]

I didn’t feel bhopping was a huge issue during the betas

[mint citrus]

yeah it feels like it starts with the content creators

[low spade]

Regardless of my answer, you will attempt to ad hominem me

[tame mortar]

Honestly I don't mind the bunny hopping in the game

[acoustic plume]

why so defensive

[sinful pewter]

I think LMG makes sense because it makes you stay in the back while assaults and engineers are in the front doing the dirty work. If someone goes down you can pick them up since ur behind them watching their backs.

[low spade]

Because I've seen the way you interact with others already

[civic herald]

Battlebit

[slender epoch]

You might get 1-2 bhopping encounters per game that’s how rare it was

[short peak]

I had none in beta personally

[low spade]

tbf, nobody was bhopping your tank haha (I didn't see any either)

[acoustic plume]

If it was 2042 as your answer, I'd lose my respect.

[tame mortar]

Exactly, and what's wrong with trying to master movement mechanics, people just want to be boring and nerf the movement

[slender epoch]

Tier 1 tank hater

[acoustic plume]

Great filler episode that game

[low spade]

Yeah, it wasn't, but it doesn't matter, you made a random opinion of me before answering. I don't want, nor care about your respect.

[spare socket]

-2142 was hated for being futuristic when it created one of the most innovative modes with its sci fi setting: Titan mode. Its entire sandbox was designed around titan in mind from its squad commander system, spawning mechanics, and map design.

-Bad company 2 had some haters because of the fact its degree of destruction made conquest not as well designed as rush. Bad company unlike other BF games was designed for rush first and foremost.

-BF3 tbh had the most vocal minority group.

It's because of the fact bf3 did a few things.
1: new engine lead to a new feel, movement, and visual feel
2: people didn't like the blue tint aesthetic
3: one of the two beta maps was metro and people felt it played too much like cod because of this

[vapid grove]

where is beta again??????????

[honest garnet]

2042 is so gooooood.

[forest monolith]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[low spade]

You sure love your list Da Babu

[spare socket]

I've been around for all eras of battlefield hate tbh.

I'm not even gonna talk about 4 and 2042.

4 at launch was a mess for many reasons and 2042 even more.

[short peak]

Btw everyone hates the current version of every game until a year later when everyone goes through a revisionist period and suddenly the last game wasn't as bad as the next one

[mint citrus]

cant believe people really hate/hated the blue tint

[valid drift]

Nobody could hate bad company 1 as it was a console exclusive so battlefield players didn't play it

[acoustic plume]

I haven't played since release. What battlefield games did you play before

[civic herald]

Battlebit, Battlefield Hereos, Phantom Forces

[ember scaffold]

Yeah true medics use carbines and other light weapons irl anyway

[spare socket]

and bf f2p. These are games so obscure I won't go into them. They're not really mainline entries.

[civic scarab]

The end of the beta was the worst for tanks on Cairo, engineers and recons spawning on a roof beacon, dropping down, doing damage, dying repeating

[fringe sonnet]

2142 upset the established bf2 playerbase. they said it was a cash grab? Also world of warcraft EXPLODED and thats all anyone used a pc on for like 5 years, so the next battlefield was a console only lmao.

[sage loom]

Nothing is wrong with it, the nerf wont be even noticable as many think. The movement in the beta seemed very solid with room for skill gap, what they did was adress "breaking the movement" with people finding ways to abuse it, i am sure of it

[short peak]

B-b-but medics only used assault rifles in bf3 my immersion is ruined !!!

[tame mortar]

This will NEVER apply to 2042 btw

[low spade]

We'll see. It's happening in Warcraft rn lmfao

[mint citrus]

i feel some people are already trying to spin the narrative that it was overhated

[short peak]

It doesn't apply to actually bad games correct (still not as bad as people make it out to be) that's how you know games are actually bad it breaks the revisionist cycle

[tame mortar]

It's fine, 90% of players hate 2042, they only enjoy it as an fps game not battlefield game

[valid drift]

I want to see your face: I'm quite enjoying bf 2042

[fringe sonnet]

Well at the end of the day, this engine still makes guns feel like airsoft rifles sooo

[brave herald]

Can I just say, I watched a video from a YTer who played the beta "like Tarvok" and that was some of the coolest shit I seen out of the beta.

[civic herald]

Is there 2142 or is ppl just typoing

[odd sigil]

How do I turn off 2042 pings? I couldn’t care less what’s happening with that trash

[slender epoch]

Good you want the medic to fight and survive so they can be competitive and revive loll

[spare socket]

there is in fact a game called battlefield 2142

[ember scaffold]

It’s not immersion it’s balance

What kind of of design decision do they have that gave them the heavy guns

[short peak]

The context was that people just hate everything new until a year later they go revisionism and say oh it wasn't that bad

[fringe sonnet]

2142. look it up. Titan mode. Best battlefield. Haters dont even know they missed out on battlefields best gamemode.

[short peak]

An outdated one which is exactly why they changed it lmao

[mint citrus]

WAS 2042 AN UNDERRATED MASTERPIECE???

[sage loom]

Man why you whine about everything? What airsoft rifles are you talking about?

[tame mortar]

2042 is an ok fps game, but a terrible battlefield game

[civic herald]

Is it before or after 2042 game cause I dont even see it

[fringe sonnet]

way before.

[odd sigil]

…no

[low spade]

"Support" Not "medic"

[acoustic plume]

I need to play battlefield heroes.

[short peak]

I can appreciate feedback like this

[ember scaffold]

Well tbf they mixed the two

[spare socket]

for context the second least selling BF (largely due to the time period it was sold in) is BF vietnam with 1.36 million sales.

the most selling is BF1 with 25 million sales

the least selling is bf 2142 with 220k sales. This was due to its futuristic aesthetic and the release of world of warcraft.

Atop this cod has been kinda ruining the sci fi shooter market’s favoritism by copy pasting elements from titanfall 2 instead of innovating.

We will likely never get a battlefield as innovative to the sci fi shooter market as 2142 was for many reasons.

[civic herald]

I think its over

[short peak]

Rather than just spamming 2042 bad with no explanation

[low spade]

This dude LOVES his lists

[short peak]

Someone get listing Larry a notepad for Christmas Holy

[valid drift]

I'd go the other way around tbh

[acoustic plume]

bummer

[spare socket]

If I made a list on why 2042 was bad it would likely take up the character limit

[ember scaffold]

2042 only sucked because it got no destruction physics that much

[civic herald]

I feel they can copy titanfall to make good bf future game

[low spade]

Every

message is typed

out with massive

line spaces and stuff, and

they're not even lmao

[fringe sonnet]

Have you played any other modern fps game recently? After playing the extraction games, ready or not, so many other games, frostbite engine gunplay feels.. plastic. It feels cheap, low feedback. It feels better than 2042, but I STILL FEEL IT.

[honest garnet]

I lied.

[mint citrus]

that might just be placebo

[low spade]

Maybe this game isn't for you Jellyman

[valid drift]

Yes, and they are saying that that won't happen to 2042, except I'm enjoying 2042 so it IS happening

[ember scaffold]

bF2042 is fun it’s just Battlefield Lite

[short peak]

People arguing with thamzam like his ai pfp wasn't a red flag

[brave herald]

huh

[spare socket]

Would you like me to make a full list of reasons why 2042 failed?

[jolly hill]

What about Mirak Valley dude?

[short peak]

No because fail is subjective

[spare socket]

it's not when the development cycle was dog water and unplanned

[acoustic plume]

you should. atleast to say you played it. you know

[umbral steppe]

Just tried bf4 and it feels way too clanky and cod-like after playing bf6

[low spade]

We don't want your

list that you copied

from a youtuber on why bf2042

failed

[tame mortar]

If you enjoy it as a battlefield game props to you, personally I would never class 2042 as a battlefield game, especially with this stupid hero shooter theme

[slender epoch]

Cus operators

[sage loom]

Just because you feel that, does not mean other are. Nothing felt plastic to me for example. Guns seemed solid and most of them seemed to have weight to them

[mint citrus]

wasnt it originally meant to be a battle royale lol

[spare socket]

There's more behind the scenes. So much it's stupid.

[slender epoch]

I’m aware lol

[short peak]

People enjoyed 2042 so it didn't fail, idk what to tell you there's plenty of people that find 2042 fun and enjoyable

[valid drift]

The "stupid hero shooter theme": a gadget change
Oh no

[mint citrus]

only thing i didnt like was the hitmarker sounds, other than that i see no issue

[harsh jay]

People will snipe from afar with or without open weapons. Whether that's recon sniping or fighting up close or assault sniping or fighting up close.

[sage loom]

to that i can agree

[short peak]

We can argue semantics about failure all day, it won't make a difference, lots of people find it fun

[honest garnet]

I did play it. But it was such a downgrade from the other battlefield games I could've played. So, I just didn't waste as much time on it as the other games.

[umbral steppe]

I don’t understand how do people say bf4 is better ngl

[slender epoch]

You could turn hitmarkers off in settings

[short peak]

True I did not consider the increase of other classes sniping

[tame mortar]

No, it's adding a bunch of "operators" giving them a whole personality that was just borderline cringe, and the jokes they made during a battle just makes me wanna cry

[acoustic plume]

let's just call 2042 battlefield 5.5 and LEAVE IT.

[low spade]

You wanted to cry over a video game lmfao

[short peak]

I am nothing if not fair and I guess my point is gone now

[valid drift]

"Unique voicelines"
Oh no

[ember scaffold]

BF2042 was like that because EA and DICE wanted to copy CoD lmao

Why can’t people see this shit

[low spade]

Is it hard being such a negative nelly here all day everyday?

[mint citrus]

unique doesnt mean good (at least in this case)

[short peak]

Negative Nathaniel over here

[slender epoch]

Did you realize during the post match screen none of the operators talk lmao

[honest garnet]

I agree.

[ember scaffold]

They have this specialists which is basically copy of specialists from BO4

[sage loom]

BF4 is my favorite BF title and BF6 even in Beta cleared it in my eyes, welcome to the future i guess where you see a proper next gen title and feel it, not just advertised

[low spade]

🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 COD MENTIONED 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸

[tame mortar]

Yep, and their character designs sucked, and their voicelines that you call "unique" just have no meaning behind it, and none of the characters are memorable which i know for a fact they were trying to do

[ember scaffold]

It’s true tho

Obviously even BF fans can’t deny it

[acoustic plume]

I was gonna say a battlefield 3 voiceline but mods are strict

[valid drift]

I literally don't notice them, what a thing to get upset about

[short peak]

Most people don't

[low spade]

I mean, they can't deny it because they get their opinions from ragebait content creators lmfao

[umbral steppe]

Yeah bf6 is fire, atp any mentions of a previous bf being better is just nostalgia blindness because they all just feel impossible to play after this

[mint citrus]

how about we all settle our differences and play some black ops 6 together

[fringe sonnet]

Lmao the ragebait involved in defending the operators in 2042.

[tame mortar]

I mean it's ok to not mind it, but keep in mind dice themselves recognised this as a mistake and will never do it again, take it how you will

[civic herald]

Lol

[harsh jay]

Fortnite went br cuz of PUBG
CoD trying to be Fortnite
BF trying to be CoD
It's all PUBG's fault guys kappa

[fringe sonnet]

Guys i think polio was a hoax lol

[valid drift]

Waste of dev time != game ruining features

[fringe sonnet]

also 2042 was a great game and filled with fan favorite features.

[tame mortar]

They knew this whole hero shooter thing was a waste of time, correct LOL

[low spade]

You've spent actual hours in here rage baiting Jellyman. I'm pretty sure you're growing roots in your chair atp

[mint citrus]

“dice recognized this as a mistake”, where did u see “waste of dev time” mentioned in that sentence

[acoustic plume]

I miss the days

[valid drift]

Sorry that basic english is hard to understand 😔

[mint citrus]

bait used to be believable

[valid drift]

People used to be literate

[remote hatch]

🎣 🪝 🗣️ 🔥

[acoustic plume]

Dice used to be Dice

[civic herald]

“The game received mixed reviews from critics and a negative reception from players for its technical issues, lack of features, and certain changes to the gameplay. The game failed to meet the sales expectations of Electronic Arts.”

Bf2042 wiki page front entry

[ember scaffold]

Well can’t blame other companies wanting to go with the trend for more money

Now BF6 will also have battle royale so whats fucking new

[mint citrus]

first battle royale with negative players

[slender epoch]

Beta was diabolical and shattered expectations

[short peak]

Bf6 beta was the closest core battlefield I've played in since like 3

[low spade]

Discords with over like, 15 people completely lose all nuance in conversations, so exhausting

[acoustic plume]

so just phuck bf4

[tawny dawn]

For small maps yeah, I just wish they gave us 1 big one to test

[crude jetty]

bf3>bf4

[ember scaffold]

EA did have some unrealistic sales projections with some of their games but can’t blame Battlefield tho even tho previous entry before 2042 also failed to reach 10 million copies on its first year (BFV)

[short peak]

Yeah 1 large map would have been nice I agree

[acoustic plume]

bretheron

[low spade]

You can tell which game was released when he was 16 with no bills

[civic herald]

Its objectively not a success but some ppl think it didnt fail

[short peak]

Erm I played bc2 and I had no bills then either thank you very much

[ember scaffold]

Battlefield’s only best selling game is BF1, but they might get the real bestseller with BF6

[acoustic plume]

I need a mug or hoodie for bf3. I will miss it

[placid cloud]

BF6 is the game we are finally getting Titan mode back right guys?

[tawny dawn]

Especially with COD shooting itself in the foot atm

[mint citrus]

facial reconstruction surgery to look like blackburn

[slender epoch]

Bf3/4 are soo similar yall.. like how hard is it to love both

[low spade]

erm, I played bf1942 with all the expansion packs on disc on dial up connection

so I am the ONLY person with a VALID opinion because i'm JOHN BATTLEFIELD, as you can see by my battlevet credentials

[ember scaffold]

It definitely didn’t meet EA’s expectations but tbh BFV was hated by everyone due to that reveal trailer

[mint citrus]

ragebait trailer

[acoustic plume]

the best campaign man. top 3

[slender epoch]

It’s a trailer….i don’t hate a trailer

[short peak]

Bo7 will outsell bf6 like it has every release before it and the world will move on

[white mesa]

Man bfv was fun though, probably the most arcadey battlefield and that left it refreshing

[civic herald]

I mean bf2042 idk rlly much abt bf5

[low spade]

I try to give the benefit of the doubt, but that trailer was honestly a bit rough given the current climate for call of duty

[ember scaffold]

BFV and BF2042 got the same reception basically with Infinite Warfare and Vanguard

[short peak]

Yeah except vanguard sold 3x more

[ember scaffold]

Problem is Vanguard sold a lot

[placid cloud]

I never understood the CoD, BF beef. The player bases feel very different and always have

[tame mortar]

True

[ember scaffold]

True, it shows people just love the slop

[civic herald]

COD ppl are older and BF ppl are younger maybe

[short peak]

Even cods worst games heavily outsold battlefields worst games

[low spade]

Battlefield players spend 3 hours a day thinking about Cod players. CoD players are too busy playing their yearly release to give a shit about bf players

[white mesa]

Call of duty is the sports games of shooters

[acoustic plume]

you almost got me

[slender epoch]

Bf5 turned into smth special dice should have never bailed on it

[placid cloud]

Literally

[ember scaffold]

Tbh it’s the reverse given CoD is casual friendly

[short peak]

Lmao true

[low spade]

Very very very one sided beef. But these battledads needs someone to blame when they die to a shotgun

[white mesa]

True wish they commited to BFV, as someone who isnt a gun nut it had my favorite weapon system with tree-based specs

[short peak]

HOLY TRUE LMAO

The uncs not gonna like this one

[white mesa]

Man that shotgun was pretty aids when even arm/leg shots insta'd

[low spade]

I've already had a 3 day vacation from here, so if I get blackbagged, you know what happened

[spare socket]

Battlefield 2042 had numerous development cycle issues.
**Pre production: **In November of 2018 pre-production of bf 2042 began, and the initial concept was to be a battleroyale game. Numerous veterans of the battlefield franchise left after battlefield 5's development and during pre production. Numerous developers left due to a lack of creative freedom. Executives wanted to compete with competition rather than promote the ideas of veteran developers that most had left during pre production. Numerous elements like the call in system and plus system originated from the BR version of the game. **Upgrading the frostbite engine for 2042 was the biggest hurdle since most of the veteran developers had left the team. **

**Early 2020: **Due to the success of Apex, EA didn't want to make a new BR that would compete with their own. As such they wanted to shift into a new market. Specialists in cod, hero shooters, and apex's characters proved somewhat successful so EA gutted the class system for the operator system. Specialists were intended to be a new revenue stream which didn't pan out. Covid also hit hard around this time making development a massive struggle. New builds of the game were made constantly to sustain the at home work environment. This led to the use of the leasing system which resulted in numerous different builds of the game having to mesh together. With this EA had 2 decision cater to the new gen consoles or make it work for old gen and new gen+all platforms. Ea opted to cater to xbox one, ps3, ps5, series x, and pc amidst covid with a leasing system that can't sustain it.

**Abandoning BR and Post production: **the removal of the BR mode made EA executives want to rush a new mode as the main stay mode before release as such hazard zone was brought up and used as the new game mode. Post production only lasted 1 year and 3 months. As such all hands on deck. BF5, temp contracts, and battlefront 2 devs were brought on board to rush the game's post.

[white mesa]

Centermass should be an insta for a shotgun but when they catch my foot? Gross insta

[short peak]

Summed up the bf discord very well

[low spade]

Oh boy, here we go. A big chatgpt list

[idle tendon]

I hope they bring back Commander mode like they had in BF4. That’s always a great mode to play when playing from a hot spot with limited speeds

[white mesa]

?

[low spade]

Replied to the wrong person game, I was writing a scathing message to you but this guy posted something insane instead

[short peak]

Chat gpt gaming

[slender epoch]

Bring back frag shotguns..

[acoustic plume]

maps are to shit for it. let's hope they come with some heat

[white mesa]

Scathe me im down

[remote hatch]

Yall Ba Dabu doesnt use AI hes just a nerd

[short peak]

I had this on spam when everyone was initially complaining about shotguns, everyone loved bf3 for the weapons like obviously nobody remembered frag rounds usas

[low spade]

If a shotgun kills you in one shot to the "arms or legs", it means 90% of the pellets hit you within like 25 meters. So either, they're close enough to blow your arms and legs off, or they hit you center mass

[white mesa]

Slugs

[idle tendon]

Yeah some water maps with cruise missile capabilities the amount of destruction would be epic

[ember scaffold]

Bring back magnifiers,

So I can use something alternative to the canted sights

[idle turret]

wonder if they will correct the spelling of recommended in the blog post for portal its wrong in the screenshot

[spare socket]

2042 was a mess. It's a combination of greed, BR pushes, covid, catering to numerous platforms, and the push for 128 players.

I didn't have space, but the push for 128 players led to numerous compromises in the gunplay, destruction, asset quality, etc in order to commit to the scale of the game. The frostbite engine wasn't updated significantly since 2016 and the lack of veterans on the engine update led to an updated engine that could not sustain 2042's scale at all.

[short peak]

Bring back the youthful exuberance I felt when I played bad company 2 that's the only way I'll like battlefield

[tall zinc]

https://x.com/BFBulletin/status/1961444723488346229?s=19

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

#Battlefield6 won't support ray-tracing.

Technical Director Christian Buhl says they're focused on making the game as [optimized] as possible for the default settings and the default users.

"We just made the decision relatively early on that we just weren't going to do

X · Aug 29, 2025, 3:03 PM

[white mesa]

The biggest shotgun complaint was not about the pellet spread modded shotgun but the slug modifications effectiveness especially, atleast thats how i saw it

[remote hinge]

Does the last beta start today does the game start today

[spare socket]

Also you can literally plug my message into an ai checker lol. I am a massive nerd

[ember scaffold]

Will we have 128 players in BF6, I think it will be awesome if we do

[acoustic plume]

I never played bf4 much but man, those water maps are something. very organically structured

[white mesa]

I actually think the pellet modified shotgun was great, good balance

[short peak]

In case nobody told you I like these updates you give because I can't see them on x

[low spade]

Slugs weren't killing one shot unless they were sub like 5 meter. beyond that, it was center mass

[remote hinge]

Help I can't get into the game

[ember scaffold]

Fair enough

[tame mortar]

Good but also bad, the campaign just have ray tracing but the multiplayer shouldn't

[idle turret]

open betas closed lol

[mint citrus]

nah keep raytracing out its a cancer to the industry

[atomic crow]

Hi könnte mir jemand sagen wann man wieder battelfild 6 als labs Mitglied wieder spielen kann könntet ihr mir eine kleine Info geben, war im Urlaub hab die Infos etwas verpasst

[short peak]

I think in terms of game optimization you're much better off appealing to more people than not but both options are usually nice

[idle tendon]

That’s what I’ve been playing since the end of Beta. It’s been got a bigger player count since beta closed

[ember scaffold]

Just apply for Battlefield Labs, good luck

[remote hinge]

I already did.I got the code but I close the page and I can't get it back

[white mesa]

Maybe we had a different experience, first hand i wss getting kills on arms about 10m to 15 m out, torso to about 20, and anything else was a 2 shot,

[tame mortar]

I dont get the problem with ray tracing in single player, is there a problem other than making the game look better?

[short peak]

Dev time I assume

[acoustic plume]

it will advocate the laziness in people to sit back in vehicles and admire the work. Not on this battlefield 🤣

[mint citrus]

the huge performance hog, the noisiness, its not worth it at all

[tame mortar]

Fair, as long as the campaign looks as good as possible then thats fine

[mint citrus]

global illumination has existed since battlefield 3 anyway, no point

[low spade]

As it should be gamer. They're slugs. a shotgun shooting pellets should be getting kills in one shot, center mass, up to like 15-20 meters easily.

[acoustic plume]

I'm trying to soak up bf3 before it's too late. What a sad era

[ember scaffold]

Slugs should penetrate armor I guess

[mint citrus]

doubt itll just die

[idle tendon]

Yeah back when bf was bf

[low spade]

Slugs should explode and deal aoe damage when you kill someone with it

[spare socket]

Tbh the push for high end graphics over aesthetics has been a major cancer to the triple A industry. People think you can chuck a few hundred million dollars at a project without good leadership, passion, and a team to make a good game.

it's why a lot of devs have quit the triple A industry to move to the double A industry.

[tame mortar]

I wonder how good portal will be and how customizable it is, imagine a survival portal map or something like Dayz in battlefield

[spare socket]

Like expedition 33 is literally all former ubisoft devs who quit.

[acoustic plume]

I'll give it till summer 2026. Hopefully ea is nice even

[vapid yarrow]

How many days for release?

[crude jetty]

rt and all this ai slop is a rough era for gaming

[mint citrus]

raytracing and pbr and ue5 lumen/nanite shit are all restrictive one click solutions that give you limited creative control and are impossible to truly optimize

[short peak]

Ue5 is such a dogshit engine

[tame mortar]

Thats the sad part, i actually want a good far cry game from ubisoft again

[remote hinge]

I was supposed to be in the closed Beta, but my PlayStation's not opening it.It keeps saying connection failed.But there's nothing wrong with my internet.I don't know if I have to put something in to make it work

[low spade]

Not true at all btw. Literally less then like 4 devs were from ubisoft out of the 30+

[mint citrus]

TAA and upscalers are also godawful

[spare socket]

UE5 can be good tbh. You just need to have intention behind that decision. It's good for animations and physics mechanics. It's not good for complicated mechanic design.

it's not a jack of all trades engine and you can't adjust it for your project specifically.

[low spade]

Literally just making stuff up to fit your opinion

[ember scaffold]

Well tbf if shot on a soldier’s torso especially with SPC vests it should not be effective, but it’s a game so fuck it I guess

[acoustic plume]

idk why that got so much hate, not a single battlefield game is better than bc2, 3, 4 and 5

[mint citrus]

yeah, so almost like a one click solution for amateur/lazy devs

[short peak]

Bf6 beta was better than all of them cope+seethe

[crude jetty]

woah someone not glazing bf1 is a rare sight

[tame mortar]

No way you are putting battlefield 5 along with those games

[bronze grail]

Battlefield 2 was a game

[acoustic plume]

typo.. 1 haha

[spare socket]

Ok fine. Mostly former ubisoft devs who quit.

https://www.thegamer.com/clair-obscur-expedition-33-former-ubisoft-developers-hope-for-the-industry/

[tame mortar]

I was about to say lol

[civic herald]

I wasnt using slug in shotgun and was getting kills in 1 shot from like 15m away

[ember scaffold]

One of the games of all time yup

[tame mortar]

Had its flaws but it was a really good game

[spare socket]

The majority of expedition 33's team is former ubisoft devs I don't make up things I'm just a nerd who likes reading news.

[acoustic plume]

but you know whats crazy

[bronze grail]

I remember watching my brother play it

[ember scaffold]

Which is fine tbh

Shotguns are still effective around that range

Immersion breaking given the armor of the soldiers but oh well let’s just say the pellets are made of depleted uranium

[tame mortar]

Same with me, but it was my dad instead lol

[low spade]

Dude. The literal first paragraph.

"Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 was developed by a team of roughly 30 people at Sandfall Interactive, comprised of several ex-Ubisoft employees. The team has spoken many times about wanting to create something fresh, and you can’t help but think about how Ubisoft games may have influenced Clair Obscur’s development."

Do you know what "several" means lmfao.

[mint citrus]

i think bf6 can def be better than them

[short peak]

I think bf6 is better and I've only played beta

[mint citrus]

this is very nitpicky but i kinda wanna see the bf3/4 font return, and have similar type of ambient/“dark” menu music

[acoustic plume]

the comparison with the proposition used as a benchmark for battlefield taken into a spiral for false admiration, leaving older battlefield games out

[low spade]

Literally states exactly what I said. You didn't read anything lol

[tawdry temple]

Ello

[acoustic plume]

stay in school

[low spade]

Afternoon!(?) gamer

[crude jetty]

can I have an optional bf3 blue filter 😃

[short peak]

Hi George just in time for the uncs afternoon nostalgia power hour

[tame mortar]

Why would you ever want that lol

[mint citrus]

liberation peak

[acoustic plume]

@nocturne hare

[ember scaffold]

Well yup it’s very promising

[tame mortar]

The whole point of the filter was because of the limitations and to make the game look good as possible

[mint citrus]

because it looks good?

[tawdry temple]

Don’t make fun of the elderly!!!!

[mint citrus]

kinda helps the game feel uniform i guess

[tame mortar]

Imo it was kind of annoying

[crude jetty]

blasting blue light will keep me awake

[low spade]

Remember when people went on massive rants about bf6 having filters lmfao

[short peak]

I like when people ran out of things to complain about so reddit started complaining about the color filters

[spare socket]

Ah. My bad. You're right.

[ember scaffold]

Well would be nice to have that in CAIRO THEY GOT THE DAMN MEXICAN YELLOW FILTER

[low spade]

Based, I appreciate you

[tawdry temple]

There is always something they will complain about

[short peak]

Ah we had the same thought

[mint citrus]

only thing i would want changed is perhaps a little lower contrast on liberation peak, other than that it all looks good

[acoustic plume]

I'm gonna miss the sun glaring into my red dot having me killed in battle

[limpid patrol]

😮

[civic herald]

I think it was taking smgs spot for close mid range because smgs are bad long range

[jaunty estuary]

wtf is wrong with color filters? huh?

[mint citrus]

i found it interesting that the sun flare for bf6 is the same as the bf4 one

[low spade]

A lot of people kept saying it was BLINDING. I'm not sure if it's just my monitor settings, but I didn't have that issue? I remember seeing everyone say the snow is fucking harmful to look at lol

[civic herald]

If it can beat smg and kill multiple people fast in close-mid range why take smg

[short peak]

Ask reddit

[dull locust]

in single fire, it was like 7 shots if someone was dumb enough to stay still for it

[ember scaffold]

Yup true but ofc game-wise

[mint citrus]

some parts felt too dark is all, blindingly bright nah

[civic herald]

It can kill 7 ppl before reloading while smg can kill like 2-4

[low spade]

SMG has very fast ADS and lower recoil in cqc. Also faster reload. Got mastery 20 with both during beta. They can be lasers

[spare socket]

tbh tho I do think the filters are a cool idea. I want them to commit to more color contrasts to give each of the maps a unique vibe.

For example: for liberation peak I would increase the whites for the snow environments, adjust the blues to be more clear, and increase the blacks and shadows. It would lead to a sorta lonely feeling mountain top vibe imo. Others are suggesting removing the filters which... Idk tbh good color grading that's tailored and particular can lead to some extremely vibrant and unique map aesthetics.

[mint citrus]

i liked all the lens dirt/flare effects from 3

[acoustic plume]

I didn't really play bf4

[dull locust]

I hopped in late, what are we comparing

[civic herald]

Shotgun I didnt ads half the time and kill people from across room

[short peak]

Ok sniper can kill 10 people before reloading does that mean every gun should be nerfed to sniper

[civic herald]

How good shotguns were

[valid drift]

No need for ads if your hipfire is 3 pixels wide while moving

[low spade]

Just sounds like you preferred the shotgun, or didn't want to learn to use the smg. Either gun is good. I killed shotties with smg, and vice versa

[ember scaffold]

I like the contrast it reminds me of the old BF games but it would be nice for it to be a filter instead

So low contrast by default so it won’t look like I’m using a damn Reshade 💀

[acoustic plume]

I hope the OG devs are living well. they deserve it

[dull locust]

oh yessir, shotguns absolutely cooked

[mint citrus]

maybe there should be a filter off option to shut people up idk

[valid drift]

The shotgun was broken and already got a nerf post beta

[short peak]

Yes we finally circled back to the shotgun portion of the day

[low spade]

max kill per magazine is a silly comparison. I can just say LMG kills 50 people in one mag. Boom, better than shotgun? No, they have their independent uses.

[mint citrus]

overall it looks good but sometimes felt a tinge too dark

[tame mortar]

REMOVE SHOTGUNSS

[ebon bolt]

yo did they shrink down operation firestorm?

[short peak]

I love telling people that shotguns in 3 close range maps was strong

[spare socket]

@low spade btw could I dm a visual example of the color grade aesthetic I'm talking about?

[ember scaffold]

Range is fine the damage needs to be nerfed tho yup

[frank herald]

battle field 6 looks like its going to be trash. the new black ops is gonna blow it out of the water

[mint citrus]

0/10 ragebait

[dull locust]

LMG is booty at CQC though

[acoustic plume]

MODS

[low spade]

It's supposed to be, that's my point. I was making a purposeful comparison

[valid drift]

One means the other so, thanks for agreeing I guess

[civic herald]

Plus kill times

[ember scaffold]

All the soldiers in BF6 have plate carriers bro you need some slugs to penetrate that shit or whatever

[tame mortar]

You are right TheIrishEngineer

[dull locust]

slugs felt like ass, bring back NS2000 w/ slugs from BC2

[spare socket]

irl birdshot would likely do jack all to soldiers in gear at range tbh

[low spade]

Slugs do the opposite against plates lol

[tame mortar]

I already pre ordered 10 copies of black ops 7

[ember scaffold]

But “headshots” or tbh face shots are fine ofc

[low spade]

Slugs are less likely to penetrate a plate

[short peak]

Only 10 ?

[tame mortar]

Ah my bad, i will make it 20 and it will be the deluxe editions

[ember scaffold]

Yeah I guess the unprotected parts which is plenty ofc

But Pax armata did have some armor pads tbh

[dull locust]

you think a 12g slug cant defeat level 4 plates at <25m?

[spare socket]

tbh tho in general. Shotguns are crude weapons for a military setting. They're not bad and there's some use cases for them tho.

[low spade]

Googleable information btw

[hallow geode]

Can I get 10 of them. I just wanna do something with them I promise I won't burn them and piss on the ashes

[spare socket]

bringing a shotgun to an AR fight with military gear.... is a decision

[ember scaffold]

So I guess damage nerf is fine (two shots at 10 meters and up) then 1 shot kill at under 10m

Seems reasonable imo

[tame mortar]

They are the digital editions my bad

[stiff osprey]

<-- how bro feels fr

[spare socket]

in the end what matters the most isn't catering to irl imo. You can have some realism in battlefield but not to the extent it ruins the sandbox.

[short peak]

I think it's time we turn this into a 3+ kd chat I'm tired of reading all the pitter patter

[hallow geode]

I will delete them all and get a refund for you then

[spare socket]

This isn't arma. Game design>realism.

[tame mortar]

Just buy 10 consoles, redeem the codes on them and you can do all the pissing you want to them lol

[dull locust]

"slug didn't penetrate, I'm still gonna cook with 3 broken ribs and a collapsed lung tho"

[ember scaffold]

Yeah they definitely are used to…true, even the Germans in WW1 hate it so much they called to ban it or any one enemy who got it gonna get tortured to death or whatever if captured

[acoustic plume]

if devs are not going to nerf shotguns, atleast make a close quarters dlc 2.0

[short peak]

They were nerfed maybe you need to play better

[hallow geode]

Bet

[acoustic kettle]

41 days

[mint citrus]

they nerfed the sliding supposedly which is cool

[ember scaffold]

So the shotgun being OP is basically immersive

[short peak]

Yes shotguns are strong in close range someone alert the media

[tame mortar]

And most people get that wrong about battlefield, they think this game is like arma

[slender epoch]

So was ju-88….

[spare socket]

This was in a setting where people weren't paying for top of the line military gear (or even had it in development/production tbh). Modern military settings vs the world wars are entirely distinct environments tbh.

[tame mortar]

Battlefield is closer to cod than to arma or squad

[short peak]

You're gonna make the cod haters crash out

[ember scaffold]

Yeah that’s why security use em, it’s OP

[acoustic kettle]

no way!!

[low spade]

Way to move the goal posts gamer. Real matur elmfao

[spare socket]

idk how this is hard for people to understand lol.

Sandbox balance is way more important than realism.

[acoustic plume]

sad

[ember scaffold]

Yup true but they also used plate armor but ofc rarely

[mint citrus]

noooo! no no no! bf based cod bad! shut up!

[dull locust]

typing lmfao with a straight face doesn't make your argument valid fam

[acoustic plume]

quite reaching

[spare socket]

less than 1% of ww2 units used plate armor tbh. It wasn't standard and was too expensive/uncomfortable.

[short peak]

That's not what reaching means pookie

[low spade]

Erm, yeah, you're totally gonna keep moving after I shoot you in the head from 100 meters with an ar. Totally freaking real game btw"

[ember scaffold]

Anyway it’s a game, I don’t wanna get too realistic tbh but some should be at least hyper realistic

[tame mortar]

Idk why some battlefield fans think this game is niche or something and cod is the all bad overrated game lol

[ember scaffold]

Yeah true but what I mean is WW1

[acoustic plume]

I said I don't like tanks. pookie gets into his feelings? you came at me first

[short peak]

Yeah I got some solid back pocket 1 liners for people that think battlefield is a realistic game

[spare socket]

ah yeah it was a little more common. I think it was like lesss than 3 or 2% in ww1 tho tbh

[ember scaffold]

Well tbf it’s always been niched

[low spade]

The discussion was "Slugs cannot penetrate plates".

"Yes then can"

I tell you "no, google it"

"erm, but you're not going to just live after that!!"

Yeah probably not, that's not what I said

[dull locust]

Nah you were correct, in the event of a slug making contact with a platecarrier, it will not penetrate. So game design just rounds up and skips the part where you bleed out from a lacerated liver

[frosty tulip]

Battlefield fans when theres a slight, very minute unrealistic detail on their perfect milsim like arcade shooter where their best tactic is launching quads with C4s:

[dark sparrow]

2042 is the best battlefield ever made

[tame mortar]

Cod obviously used to be better, but there is nothing wrong taking things from cod and making it even better in battlefield

[low spade]

Yeah, I know i was lmfao. Thank you

[dull locust]

there you go with the straight faced lmfao

[short peak]

Don't forget the tank on top of the jet flying around shooting other jets in the tank

[spare socket]

Who said slugs can't penetrate plates lmao

[low spade]

Googleable information Da Babu

[tame mortar]

You're trying to say battlefield is niche?

[acoustic plume]

And a gunner and tank player will never compare in kd. if you feel a way go somewhere

[ember scaffold]

They got their own uniqueness which give them the appeal and the distinction to be played separately

For example like the combined arms stuff, destruction and the huge maps and more players

While CoD excel in fast paced arcade style gameplay

[spare socket]

Oh I read a lil more carefully. My bad.

Regardless my main bit was that shotguns in general aren't ideal for a military setting with body armor at all.

[mint citrus]

its a very underground game, i think the playtest got around 300 people, maybe 400

[low spade]

All these people wanna talk the physics of guns and plates and tanks and c4 and engineers and they always have no idea how it should ACTUALLY work lmfao.

Complaining about stuff when a medic is defibbing you back to life while your head is missing from an HE shell

[spare socket]

ah yes look at my blow torch clearing the flames off this tank

[low spade]

You're just welding it back together bro, no worries.

[dull locust]

I think you guys over estimate a platecarriers ability to protect you in a firefight lol

[low spade]

I think you're taking things way to literal and refuse to just have fun

[tame mortar]

Obviously they are both unique in their own ways, but we can 100% take things from cod and there is no need to hate on it

[ember scaffold]

We’re talking about the right balance were it’s immersive but also fun and balanced

[low spade]

You're coming into a conversation late where I'm explicitly making this point

[whole whale]

gameplay wise need to be a thing to counter smg

[dull locust]

wdym, you're literally discussing why platecarriers would make 12g slugs ineffective in battlefield, but I'm the joykill?

I'm just expanding on the LARP brother, stop being so defensive lol

[spare socket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QfasMEpQWJk?si=xtLIRRlUQkCywbjy

[ember scaffold]

Yeah good to know

[short peak]

Well this conversation has been exhausting

[low spade]

Someone said slugs need to come out so they can penetrate plate carriers. I made a point that they don't do that fundamentally.

The point being this is a silly fun arcade game, not a milsim where realism needs to be the end-all be-all.

[low spade]

3 day weekend gamer!

[short peak]

Wow 3 days of eblc gaming

[spare socket]

Realistically you just wouldn't bring a shotgun at all to a gunfight with military gear

[ember scaffold]

I think for balance it’s a way for the shotgun to 1 shot kill with the max range limit of the shotgun

While the pellets only 1 shot within 10m

[vale wadi]

They’re feeding off our FOMO listing all the BF6 rewards

[low spade]

Correct 100%

[tame mortar]

They need to make the 2042 battlepass easier to progress imo

[short peak]

Gear this gear that how about you guys gear up and go play some games

[low spade]

Speaking of based. Any Americans got plans for their 3 day weekend? Think I'm gonna do a pool day. Enjoy the pumpkin spice season, the nicer weather, and probably just a shit ton of mythic+ keys on Warcraft

[ember scaffold]

Well it’s nice actually because the other BF6 items aren’t listed specifically in the free pass tabs

[low spade]

I'm trying to gear up, that's why I'm doing keys 😠

[spare socket]

studying for a 6 hour long exam: continues. (literally doing it rn on another monitor)

[dull locust]

static range with a target that represents a human at ~25m versus an urban/open field with 32 mfs looking to gun you down. A platecarrier protects your torso, lets say with side and back plates too. That's still like 15% of your whole body. More maybe

[vale wadi]

Yeah I didn’t know we got all that. So motivated to do it more. Any tips on leveling it up faster? Or just PTFO lol. Obviously weekly challenges get those done

[short peak]

Nobody cares about plate carriers

[spare socket]

regardless: bring a flipping AR with rounds that have better velocity and penetration

[acoustic plume]

what subject

[tame mortar]

You're in uni rn?

[short peak]

Argue about open weapons instead I beg of you

[dull locust]

never, shotgun gang til I die

[spare socket]

dental school

[tame mortar]

Do you guys start in august or something

[spare socket]

No there's an admission exam. Doing that rn.

[ember scaffold]

Hmm try redacted breakthrough with bots, right click and host and put a password

[acoustic plume]

6 hor long exam. I'd kill it if I had that much time

[tame mortar]

Ah makes sense

[spare socket]

280 questions

[short peak]

[acoustic plume]

you got this

[spare socket]

Oh wait I forgot they updated it recently. Probably more.

[tame mortar]

280 questions?? wtf could they possibly be asking

[spare socket]

math, reading, biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, and multiple types of visual puzzle problems.

[tame mortar]

Thank god im doing AI and data science, medical school seems painful

[spare socket]

the mcat is worse that's the medical school admission test

[short peak]

I'm taking a trade

[dull locust]

data science about to be a money printer

[spare socket]

This shizz includes physics and biochem also and is 7 and a half hours long

[dull locust]

pivoting from IT/DB management to cloud based architecture and data integration

[tame mortar]

Hell yeah, and AI is going to be extremely popular in the coming years

[short peak]

It's also gonna be extremely unpopular

[ember scaffold]

With AI it might not be tbh

[tawdry temple]

They teaching “AI” in universities now?! Who your teacher, chatgpt?!

[spare socket]

AGI specifically

[spare socket]

Nobody thinks chat gpt will be the future. People do think AGI will be tho. It's an entirely distinct AI format that isn't invented yet and is in development. There's a race world wide to make it.

[dull locust]

nothing is really "safe" within that scope, but when it comes to some of these corporations, it's not there yet

[spare socket]

Good AGI is like making an insanely competent software engineer.

[short peak]

There's already a market in not supporting ai so

[low spade]

What did I miss

Sorry, someone actually sent me an email at work

[short peak]

Holy shit guys the store I'm at is selling iberian chips, like from the battlefield 6 map iberian offensive

[ember scaffold]

Not really given the medical industry definitely will thrive and others that needed manual input

AI too basic to even detect soldiers inside boxes

[low spade]

dude... is that a battlefield reference?!?!

[spare socket]

AI is slop AGI is actually useful in doing busy work. All AI is rn imo is a landscape to eventually develop AGI. The issue with AGI is if rushed it can lead to... problems..

[tawdry temple]

Gotta get those fo sure

[short peak]

I can't believe they made Iberian offensive into a chip

[dull locust]

wdym, there's literally cheats built around image recognition lol

[low spade]

you dummy, iberian offensive is all chips. it's chips in my computer (idk how computers work)

[short peak]

Technically it's iberian ham flavored

[ember scaffold]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marines-ai-paul-scharre/

[valid drift]

Data science literally is for stuff like AI, they'll actually be completely fine

[spare socket]

Software engineers are the people that are mostly at risk tbh. If AGI actually goes off the ground.

[low spade]

Did you guys see that guy creating a sentry turret for "drones?"

[valid drift]

Nah

[short peak]

Bet they taste like apc camping mmm yum

[ember scaffold]

Yeah I guess

Might even help them even

[tame mortar]

True

[low spade]

He's been building it for years. He finally has it using real bullets firing at drone targets with an AR

[valid drift]

AI is ok at best at creating tiny snippets. It's garbage for building large structured applications

[tame mortar]

I feel bad for the people doing software engineering

[valid drift]

Programmers also do more than just write code

[short peak]

King unc has spoken ai sucks

[dull locust]

“An algorithm is brittle, and the takeaway from this is that there will always be these edge cases,” Scharre told Task & Purpose. “The real problem for the military is that it operates in an inherently adversarial environment, and people will always have the ability to evolve.” This was a really, really bad example of AI lol

[valid drift]

AI WILL be a useful tool FOR programmers

[spare socket]

https://ai-2027.com/ I would read this. It's an interesting scope regarding AI (AGI in particular). It's both extremely destructive and helpful. The person who made this was essentially correct about his prior AI report.

Heres' a video on the topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KVDDfAkRgc&t=937s

[tame mortar]

Yeah true, they can use it for their advantage

[ember scaffold]

Depends on the AI tbh

[low spade]

I'm not reading SHIT

[short peak]

When I use chat gpt I call it a wireback so it knows it's place

[low spade]

Chatgpt does my thinking for me. And it told me I'm handsome! (please derail this conversation)

[slender epoch]

Clippy cared

[ember scaffold]

Would be nice to use AI in BF6

[low spade]

I punched my screen everytime that little mf showed up

[tame mortar]

AI aimbot(which is already a thing)

[short peak]

Ok unc your screen time is too high let's get you to water polo

[low spade]

Clippy is just an advanced form of furry, but for inanimate objects

[dull locust]

it's not single threaded like this article lays out though, the intent/glidepath rn is creating smart sensors to replace humans and provide effects. Look at Ukraine and some of the loitering munitions that have become a thing to defeat armor. Only a matter of time before it's good at finding people.

[acoustic plume]

support class is the closest thing

[ember scaffold]

No like LAWS or them MG robots

[spare socket]

Anyways I don't really have futher to discuss. All in all AI is slop that's useless, the world is attempting to develop AGI as soon as possible which is... a bad thing for misalignment if rushed.

[dull locust]

useless to you

[spare socket]

AGI is what is useful

[olive marsh]

Clippy never asked for a monthly fee. Clippy never sold your data.

[ember scaffold]

Yeah autonomous robots for support class would be awesome

[low spade]

Clippy was owned by microsoft you silly goose. Ofc that lil dude was selling my data lmfao

[dull locust]

AGI is a pipe dream brother lol, but disregarding the usefullness of AI because you don't have a realword application for it is an overgeneralization in the other direction

[cunning warren]

are the labs invites arlready all sent out

[low spade]

Dude was watching me beat it to word docs with fanfiction on it

[olive marsh]

That wasn't a thing back then

[nocturne spade]

thats what they want you to think