battlefield-6

[tame mortar]

KD does matter, but when those battledads talk about reviving matters more i think they mean that the more bodies on the objective the better, instead of actual kd obvs

[formal girder]

SPM

[gleaming quiver]

also poast username so i can look up ur stats @iron bridge

[short peak]

We can go score /match if you want

[austere swift]

Assault can carry both Sniper Rifles and ARs/SMGs at the same time, making Recon as a class pretty redundant, since it's perks and gadgets aren't exactly resourceful currently in comparison to Assault. Spotting occurs automatically through every class, so those spotting perks don't really give proper incentive to Recon.

You basically have no reason to use Recon, as a result.

[vocal sedge]

A 2kd player with high kpm is more impressive than a 1.5kpm 10kd player

[ionic condor]

Reviving matters because you save respawns for the team. You know, so the team has more chances to win the game

[iron bridge]

posted for u

[somber hare]

Revives win games.

[tame mortar]

It can, but it wont always

[short peak]

#stats message hard to see you from way up here

[digital turtle]

I do my job if I’m a medic

I mean, that’s not much of a bragging right as is the bare minimum lol

[austere swift]

Only when paired with holding objective space properly. If you revive without dealing with enemies you're just staggering your team.

[south scarab]

That was a joke. But assault with ammo bags would give Assault a much-needed role as the vanguard, while messing up support

[heavy sand]

Does Battlefield labs let me play more, I was addicted to that open beta

[echo maple]

thats not his account, he linked a different one before

[tame mortar]

Medics are cool and all, but if half of the time is one of those medic players that dont do anything but revive, nothing will be done, the team needs those KD players to win

[snow spire]

he's got a point, being efficient in the short term and surviving as long as possible is way more impressive

[sage prairie]

That's true every will just go Assult and use the sniper on that. If everyone knew how to use the spawn become the right way then this wouldn't happen.

[wicked tangle]

Based alarm 🚨

[digital turtle]

The assault class in BF6 is made to be a frontline soldier where you just kill stuff and destroy some stuff

[cobalt basalt]

Or just quit gaming and live on a farm cause wtf

[short peak]

Lastshot only 40 more revives and I spent 33 of my 35 hours in a tank

[rustic merlin]

TUGs? Being able to prevent revives with a simple headshot, auto spotting for your whole team, the UAV is pretty powerful too. Recon can be a close range monster.

[hollow harbor]

10 KD with the same KPM 😂

[ionic condor]

Of course the team needs KD players, but the team also needs medics, and the team also needs players who capture objectives

[vocal sedge]

You got 4kd in a tank? Lol

[drifting kraken]

Battle uncs was calling me hacker for slide shotgunning them 😭

[hollow harbor]

you had 20 more matches than me 😂

[short peak]

4.5 kd put some respect on my name

[hollow harbor]

oh god the irony , i cant

[slender epoch]

What is considered low my good brotha

[somber hare]

lol i gotta be nice now, cause i just got warned. ggs. see you in the battlefield ❤️

[tame mortar]

Facts, battlefield 1 was actually a curse to the community. These new gens that played since battlefield 1 think that battlefield is a realistic shooter

[crude jetty]

it was fine at launch tbh

[hollow harbor]

this guy and his 10kd (same KPM as me andy) were shittalking all day long

[short peak]

Drop your stats don't be shy

[tight prism]

[ionic condor]

You don't win the game only doing kills, you dont win the game only doing revives, but you definitely win the game doing captures. And you can't do captures without kills or revives.

[somber hare]

oh, im 1.81 kd lmao.

[obtuse garnet]

in my opinion mg for medic is stupid , MG are slow heavy favor defensive play set up behind cover , block chokepoint . medic need to move around revive and heal people > two thing confict with each other

[hollow harbor]

the battlefield community

[vocal sedge]

In bf6 id say 1 is low, 2 is pretty decent, 3 is good and 4 is cracked

[tame mortar]

Until they nerfed the slide movement, and then the causal players started storming in

[austere swift]

Again, auto-spotting occurs for every class now. You are not offering much more by playing Recon in that regard, since you're never really going to not be spotted as it stands currently. If the game followed BFVs philosophy in regard to spotting, Recon would be incredibly useful. Unfortunately that's not the case though.

[digital turtle]

[hollow harbor]

bro was talking stats and is a tank main 😂

[junior ingot]

10000000% needs a server browser & not just for portal

[iron bridge]

You are playing conquest vs my breakthrough? We on copium?

[short peak]

Good you know your place

[tame mortar]

Hence why i think medic should be assault

[fathom trail]

overall K/D << current contribution in the match with kills, revives, supporting your teammates, and destroying vehicles

[hollow harbor]

2 revives average per match 😂

they dont even play battlefield just farming in a tank

[craggy tapir]

If we're going to oversimplify things, the entire game (like every other game) is about having fun. Whether you achieve this fun via killing, reviving, using vehicles, etc it's all meant to make you have fun

[somber hare]

lmao, what place buddy? you think you're good with a 4.5 kd??? kek

[short peak]

I don't think I'm good i think I'm better than you

[gleaming quiver]

farming in a tank is LITERALLY battlefield homie

[wicked tangle]

When he’s right he’s right!!

[slender epoch]

Bf6 kd score is lower than usual because I was trying to learn the jets/ helicopter this time around . DICE did not make it easy for air

[iron bridge]

let em know king!

[somber hare]

hahaahahaa, if that helps you sleep at night.

[hollow harbor]

@iron bridge no saving your face water rn

[vocal sedge]

4.5kd in a tank seems pretty terrible, you get 5 kills in a tank and die and then spawn in another tank, how does that even happen

[digital turtle]

What would be the defining role of the support class, however?

The assault soldier in the BF6 is supposed to be a regular infantry, soldier who is maximizes kill, and such so your basically just a basic treatment but I can see how boring it could make asssult be or how uninteresting it makes the class

[slender epoch]

but I’m 2.2 kd with a bias to engineer becuase no one was f destroying tanks

[obtuse garnet]

who drop ammo in BF6 now ?

[short peak]

@vocal sedge you wanna laugh at my stats let's see yours king

[delicate carbon]

support drops both ammo and health in one pack now

[sacred cedar]

Recon

[iron bridge]

you got 2.5kd with 50% winrate, let me know when you get to my numbers (72.4%)

[craggy tapir]

Support has both healing and ammo

[tame mortar]

The vehicle players carry your match btw, these 100-0 kd players in battlefield 4 would deciamte your whole team, wait until they add a higher skill ceiling to vehicles watch what happens

[delicate carbon]

(I think they should revert it)

[fathom trail]

just c4-jeep those tanks

[vocal sedge]

My kd was pretty low aswell tbh i had 3

[short peak]

What's your score per game

[somber hare]

this guy wins at life for sure.

[tame mortar]

Assault=medic, Support=Ammo,Engineer=engineer,Recon=Sniper

[obtuse garnet]

the hell ? if support can heal what the fk medic are for ?

[austere swift]

BF1 class design was the best.

[hollow harbor]

HAHAHA bro is flexing WR when he can just quit the match before it ends and stay in matches he wins

[craggy tapir]

Medic doesn't exist. It got merged into support

[slender epoch]

Why are we trying to flex beta stats wait until the rest of the game is out lmao some of us were actually trying new things etc

[runic venture]

Support is the medic

[tame mortar]

BF2 had the best class design

[delicate carbon]

Where do you check the stats? does tracker.gg have one already?

[hollow harbor]

please buddy , 95 revives in 50 matches

[short peak]

They making fun of it nobody's flexing

[hasty grove]

Each class’s looks need to be a bit more distinctive

[junior ingot]

who gives a f about stats in a beta LETS GET SERVER BROWSER INSTEAD

[delicate carbon]

(the official website doesnt show winrate etc so you must be checking elsewhere)

[hollow harbor]

you didnt play the game at all ,

[hasty grove]

but otherwise, they look pretty fine

[somber hare]

that's his only win in life.

[iron bridge]

Yeah you would know, freak stats

[iron bridge]

I got my own excel

[hollow harbor]

i met a lot of your type

[worn marten]

Recon really shouldn’t just be ‘the sniper’. It’s such a boring use of a kit that could be so much more useful and fun if people didn’t always attribute it to that

[fathom trail]

#weAllLoveServerBrowser

[craggy tapir]

HL class design is underrated

[somber hare]

you actually brought up kd. lmao.

[hollow harbor]

the grand irony

[somber hare]

Revives win games.

[hollow harbor]

couldnt be better

[short peak]

Yeah but you laughed at the tank stats

[iron bridge]

The what type unc?

[slender epoch]

Literally 2 months then we flex stats im going to try to make the aggressive recon work ( it was the least popular class during the beta)

[austere swift]

BF1 Scout:
Best implementation of the role in the series in my opinion.

[short peak]

Sitting on a lower score/game than me

[hollow harbor]

your type unc

[somber hare]

bro, you are at the bottom of the score board every game. chill.

[iron bridge]

You a little bit delusional aren't you, let me know what type is that

[hollow harbor]

i go 70-0 in amiens bf1 with a tank , and i feel disgusted afterwards

[short peak]

You wish unc

[hollow harbor]

this is how the bf communty feels about tanks homie

[iron bridge]

Stop the larp session bud

[hearty kelp]

battlefield isn't for you if you genuinely believe the gunplay should be a twitch shooter

[echo maple]

@warm stream there is arguing over KDs and people posting stats from accounts that dont belong to them im its making me shake

[slender epoch]

I loved the bf1 scout lol that flare was so nice to have

[hollow harbor]

literally 0 skill needed to use a tank

[runic venture]

Recon was fun equipping a carbine on and putting spawn beacons to open up another flank 👌 now its the assault droolers job to do but wont because muh dual noobtubes

[rustic merlin]

Why are people over exaggerating personal auto spotting? It doesn’t spot everyone on your screen at once. You still have to actually look pretty close to the person. You can still stealth just fine (except in bushes at eye level, which is dumb tbf). Like spotting is still important, you can still be caught by surprise by people. 😂

[tame mortar]

When i say sniper i obviously mean it primarily uses snipers, but sure you could give it other things, but it will still be a boring class regardless. When you try to make that class "fun" you might just make it overpowered, battlefield labs allowed airstrikes for a recon as a concept btw, thats a no no

[fathom trail]

70-0 is normal if you were in a tank all the time

[somber hare]

it's good to have 4.5 kd when you're 20th on the scoreboard every match. gg

[hearty kelp]

we've got enough twitch shooters as it is, battlefield is its own franchise and should go back to its roots, and the devs are doing it very well with the movement nerf

[hollow harbor]

i thought you were flexing whatever you were , are you acting oblivious now ?

[short peak]

I'd bet $50 usd none of you are going 70-0 on a tank lmao

[obtuse garnet]

oh so now assault is kind of pure solo class can carry 2 main gun no teamwork task at all lol

[south scarab]

There should be a spotting drone that works like the bf1 or bf5 flare gun (maybe it's LoS-based or something)

[worn marten]

I can’t agree unfortunately. I genuinely think 2042 takes the cake for recon’s class definition

[hollow harbor]

95 revives btw

[tame mortar]

I played since battlefield 2, i think battlefield is for me. And i think the movement should not be slowed down especially now, where the movement is actually balanced

[heavy sand]

Yo battlefield discord chat and battlefield game chat are exactly the same, who would have thought?

[hollow harbor]

bro just wants a high stats page instead of playing the game

[fathom trail]

omg the goat is back

[hearty kelp]

I like how you didn't deny you wanted it to be a twitch shooter

[short peak]

Show your stats

[hollow harbor]

its called recon not sniper

[craggy tapir]

Pretty much. That's why they're changing it. They're giving them spawn beacons and replacing their class perk thing with an effect that speeds up capturing objectives with multiple people

[iron bridge]

"well aktshually 🤓"

[hollow harbor]

and if you sniped your way to 10KD , you may as well leave the server

[runic venture]

Made it 52-0 in the IFV during beta, close enough :(

[austere swift]

You still have to actually look pretty close to the person.
In my experience, this is not true. I was getting red pop ups at the edge of my screen regularly, even when alone. It is not team wide, but you know what makes it team wide? Just looking in their general direction and pressing Q. So, it's really not that different from Recon.

[tame mortar]

I like how every other battlefield game was basically a twitch shooter other than like 2 games but ok

[hot igloo]

is there a way to look at the weekend 1 stats? i can only look at week w

[vocal sedge]

In what game

[hollow harbor]

this just gets worse

bro finally admits to camping as a sniper

[hearty kelp]

Proof?

[short peak]

Why the lowest score/game players always talking shit

[echo maple]

@static moss help, they is argue over KD

[wicked tangle]

Whole server of squad players

[vocal sedge]

2.5 is practically 3kd and sometimes 2kd tbh

[obtuse garnet]

i would not called throw spawn becon at ramdom location ....teamwork task .

[iron bridge]

We are talking about BF6, so you might want to use common sense here

[ionic condor]

kids flexing stats to see who has the larger e-peen. are you 12 y o?

[hollow harbor]

cause they revive more than you , not sitting in a tank in spawn

[vocal sedge]

Theres winrates in bf6?

[short peak]

Doesn't win game unfortunately

[iron bridge]

I got my own excel so I know my stats

[hollow harbor]

they win their time by having fun

[tame mortar]

Battlefield 2, 3,4, Battlefield 2142, Battlefield 5, Battlefield 2042, Battlefield 6, Battlefield hardline

[short peak]

I'm having plenty of fun

[wide oar]

i can assure you im not making it to 1000th place

[vocal sedge]

Lol

[eternal willow]

PTFO wins games

[craggy tapir]

Eh, imo 2042 is the only intentional twitch shooter. Movement glitches like in 4 were unintended and 90% of people never even saw them occur

[fathom trail]

what does twitch shooter mean

[tame mortar]

Every battlefield game i listed there had movement techs and mechanics btw

[austere swift]

I couldn't imagine camping with tanks. The whole appeal is running into objectives and creating space for the team, I feel. Battlefield 1 and V really rewarded aggressive tank play, loved it.

[ionic condor]

Teamwork wins games. Every class doing their job in a corrdinated way wins games.

[slender epoch]

Oh ya we got to all have a spider web stat sheet that shows positioning aswell

[short peak]

Cs2, r6

[craggy tapir]

jumping = a movement mechanic

Just saying that a game has movement mechanics means nothing

[hollow harbor]

hahahaha , happy for you man

[tame mortar]

Fast paced shooter basically

[vocal sedge]

Bf5 tank gameplay was literally sitting out of bounds next to repair stations

[granite lodge]

God this channel needs deleting

[vocal sedge]

And then spamming shells from accross the map

[tame mortar]

Battlefield 2 had bunny hops, dolhpin dives, crouch spamming, air strafing along with the other battlefield games i listed, and i dont have to explain battlefield 5 but ok go play arma if you want realistic movement

[runic venture]

Way more satisfying pushing in with the homies and watching the hordes of blueberries rush in on the opening you just created

[fathom trail]

ah i see

[slender epoch]

The movement wasn’t even bad I thought movement with the LMG was lil slow but that’s it

[worn marten]

A shooter where reaction and mechanical skill tends to trump forward thinking. Generally it’s twitch if someone can be getting shot at and they have the room to evade and re engage to take out the initiator.

At least to me. That’s what I’ve come to discern the movement discussion to be

(Not saying forward thinking is absent. You know what I mean)

[south scarab]

(because ranged AT was too weak and close range AT was too strong)

[hollow harbor]

maybe try playing battlefield instead of world of tanks

[iron bridge]

You sound like you didn’t have fun, I’m so sorry for you, unc. Oil up those old joints and get that 3kd you can do it!

[short peak]

Better than being you sitting and feeding tickets dying constantly

[austere swift]

Then you're playing them wrong.

[hollow harbor]

dont need to oil them i can sit in the map corner with a sniper and get 20KD

[vocal sedge]

No clue why they nerfed it, another bf1 moment where dogshit players need to remove mechanics from the game and still be garbage at it

[fathom trail]

i understand indeed

[hollow harbor]

with a sweetspot mechanic in game 😂

[snow spire]

they gotta add 500vs500 rush or i aint playin

[gleaming quiver]

he probably has a low KD in battlefield fetish

[echo maple]

Battlefield is far too easy they should making it harder by replacing players with bots with more than 45 IQ

[wicked tangle]

That’s what I’m saying

[vocal sedge]

Lol

[craggy tapir]

Fair. A good 70-80% of people never interacted with that stuff tho

Y'all forget that console exists + most people are casuals

[iron bridge]

Yeah, you do that, just let me know if I don’t unscrew your head clean off

[tight prism]

[vocal sedge]

Youre wasting your tank every 4-5 kills you get idk man

[fathom trail]

you mean CoD kiddies? yea they were active too in the beta

[granite lodge]

Like I dont understand the negativity in this channel, if you dont like the game either go play de_dust like you've done every day for 20 years, carry on with BF4 (Which you probably dont even play) or stick with warzone

[slender epoch]

The roof campers on all the maps on conquest was my glaring issue

[wicked tangle]

Because 6 could easily be the best game of all time

[gleaming quiver]

butterfill

[echo maple]

the game plays like cod, you just mad because BF wants cod money and im gonna run around like its cod and clap you over n over

[low spade]

People get off on just being negative man. Idk, modern gamers (mostly millenials and gen x) are so miserable and they just find clusters to group-whine about stuff all day every day

[wicked tangle]

I love battlefield I want a modern battlefield game to be great

[granite lodge]

It's leaps and bounds ahead of most other BF's, people just don't realise we played a beta not a full release

[vocal sedge]

Yeah but that was bound to be fixed anyway it was announced the moment the glitch was found

[runic venture]

Dont worry rooftops are removed in full game 😭

[short peak]

Me when I don't know how numbers work

[tame mortar]

70-80% of the players do this type of movement without realising it, sure they wont do anything advanced like the roozou jump in battlefield 4 that requires mechanics, but they might still crouch spam, jump around, or air strafe without thought. Its just the bottom 1% garbage players will just stand still and hide behind a box and complain about movement

[craggy tapir]

4's still good to play. There was like 15 completely full servers on PS right before the first beta weekend

[austere swift]

How can you acknowledge this is a bad way to play tanks then claim it's "the way to play them" in a prior text lol. Lack of consistency is crazy.

[fathom trail]

it's a beta for a reason

[vocal sedge]

You get 4 kills per death you and you end up at 4kd

[hollow harbor]

not really man , he gets 0.5 infantry KD then camps in spawn with the tank and gets 50 kills and no deaths a match

[wicked tangle]

Bro unit is literally fucking spitting

[hollow harbor]

so in the end it evens out to 4 KD

[short peak]

Not every single one of my kills is in a tank

[fathom trail]

and btw you need to play cod if you feel like the beta was cod

[worn marten]

That’s the real difficulty.

To me, bf4 from at least a couple years after launch has been the movement bf. That’s what I’ve essentially taken bf4 to be. But if others perceive it as something else because they didn’t use or see movement, played in clans instead of solo, used the server browser instead of quick match or played hardcore instead of normal, who had the true experience?

I look at bf and think to myself ‘it’s always had movement’ but then others go ‘it never has, it was always slow and methodical, even 4’. Then there are two contrasting arguments where both are right in their own mind based off their own experiences

[echo maple]

the beta was COD the game is COD, i will play the new COD in october

[wicked tangle]

I don’t wanna keep responding to what he says but he’s 1000% right

[vocal sedge]

Didnt you just say that 33 hours out of your 35 was in a tank lol

[south scarab]

Seething and fuming about the close range maps and lack of teamplay in 6, retreating back to a REAL battlefield like bf4 to play locker/metro 24/7 as assault with AEK

[fathom trail]

disagree

[austere swift]

Battlefield 1 has nice movement. Even the slide post-nerf is pretty fun.

[short peak]

But you keep chattin shit from the bottom of the scoreboard at least you have 25 revives !

[hearty kelp]

BAHAHAHHA, i made fun of Enders on twitter and he blocked me in 30 seconds

jesus CHRIST this update was the best thing to ever happen to BF6

[obtuse garnet]

it simple when map design suck make tank stuck inside a maze of cover , hard terrain hardly can move around freely > people favor camping , if map favor tank warfare > people agressive

[low spade]

bullying streamers is so based. Thank you for your service big guy

[prisma burrow]

When is the next open bet if there is one

[hollow harbor]

classic battlefield players man , i tell ya

[wicked tangle]

Typical trash player lmao

[craggy tapir]

Least obvious rage bait

Go ahead and try soloing a tank tho lol

[fathom trail]

can you tldr us about it

[hearty kelp]

post stats

[low spade]

based recon players do it all the time

[runic venture]

Oct 10

[echo maple]

thas kinda easy? C5 is strong

[tame mortar]

No lol, battlefield 1 had horrible movement and they nerfed the slide to the ground. The game turned from a movement oriantated gameplay to positioning gameplay. This meant the person camping in a corner would win every gunfight compared to the one that actually has mechanical skill. Battlefield 1 was a curse

[low spade]

Not gonna be one

[short peak]

Players with 15k score a game hate this one simple question

[sacred cedar]

:post all stats

[prisma burrow]

My birthday neat

[kindred wadi]

what if its just a tired man home from work tryna have some fun 😭

[hollow harbor]

so if he had 33 hours in the tank , does that mean he has 0.2 infantry KD ?

[hearty kelp]

basically just "you'll just move onto another twitch shooter, ritalin abusers btfo"

[hollow harbor]

oh what would you do in the game if tanks didnt exist

[echo maple]

posting stats doesnt work when half the people in here are posting the same 20 accounts with high KDS that dont belong to them

[vocal sedge]

Hes on NA servers aswell might aswell be stealing ice cream from 80 year olds lol

[wicked tangle]

Then just relax and play the game why does every game have to be a mobile game just because u have a job we all have jobs too

[hollow harbor]

oh no😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. The community is so divided on that. Imo that's why crossplay should be off by default and they should listen to PC players about movement. We need to return to when Console and PC had completely different experiences

[hearty kelp]

still waiting on those stats

[fathom trail]

ah

[craggy tapir]

Fair. I forgot about C4 lol

[thin pumice]

dum question, should I just Uninstall the Open Beta? or will there maybe be potentially another test?

[south scarab]

Bf5 slide was the ideal imo, kept momentum without giving you a burst of speed, interfered with your gunplay enough that it was primarily to reduce your size while repositioning or surprise people around corners

[tame mortar]

Probably because you are one of those mechanically impaired players that think battlefield is arma or insurgency. You probably browse reddit and complain about movement over there as well knowing nothing about the old battlefield games

[slender epoch]

I wouldn’t have a problem with the roof campers but I don’t think it’s meant for us to be up there… I loved floodzone… bring it back there how you do roofcombat or ziba tower

[austere swift]

This meant the person camping in a corner would win every gunfight compared to the one that actually has mechanical skill.
I've really not encountered this being the case at all in my time playing, dunno what to say. Camping players are easy kills.

[hearty kelp]

Me when I played 2142, 2, 3, hardline, 4, 1, and 2042

[hollow harbor]

you didnt like my 24 and you had the same lol

[short peak]

Higher actually

[echo maple]

ive seen atleast 10 people post accounts that dont belong to them in the stats and that Anti guy is a criminal for it, hes posted at least 6 different accounts none of them belong to them.

[tame mortar]

And yet you agree with the next battlefield having nerfed movement when the base one is fine right now

[hollow harbor]

expect i was playing in EU and infanty not in a tank

[hearty kelp]

Problem?

[craggy tapir]

Solution: delete the corner

[hollow harbor]

😂 i completely forgot we arent even on even grounds

[short peak]

But I thought tank players do nothing how could I have more score

[wicked tangle]

1.8 KD for the 2nd weekend but pretty funny to stand behind stats in a beta and ask for nerfs to everything

[crude jetty]

bro is actually rent free in everyone's head it's insane

[tame mortar]

Lack of brain synapses is my problem, but its fine, you can keep rage baiting on twitter

[echo maple]

EU : Sweat Lord
NA : Farmville

[hearty kelp]

3.7 KD. Lol lmao

[vocal sedge]

Tanks are braindead in bf6 tbh

[hollow harbor]

score means nothing , you can top the leaderboard without shooting a bullet

[wicked tangle]

I could have a .6 kd and wanting more options would be valid

[midnight warren]

Bruh my KD was so low, but I had 700+ revives

[vocal sedge]

They really need to release kpm stats because kd literally means nothing without kpm stats

[austere swift]

I don't see why good positioning shouldn't be rewarded though. Battlefield has always been about good positioning paired with mechanical skill.

[hearty kelp]

Ah yes, the "you're a bot" argument for anyone who doesn't believe 6 should be a disgusting twitch shooter like every other modern FPS out there. Classy

[short peak]

Ah yeah score means nothing except how useful you are in a game, I'll leave this conversation here you're boring now, only stat you beat me in is revives you literally perform worse in every other aspect, work on yourself

[slender epoch]

The IFV being a team spawn beacon helped it a lot

[snow spire]

this whole chat reminds me of BFF squad from YT when it talks about KD

[hearty kelp]

EXCEPTIONALLY based playstyle, KD is meaningless

[rancid lotus]

"skill issue" in the big 25? Smh my head

[hollow harbor]

they have an average per match bit insightful into that fraud's 10KD

[wicked tangle]

Nobody gives a shit that you lay prone w an lmg bro we want to have fun

[vocal sedge]

I could sit on a cliff and perma spot people the entire game and top score, surely shows how good and talented you are at the game

[hearty kelp]

I didn't use LMGs. M417 90% of the beta. Try again

[hollow harbor]

noo where did your freind go ?

[tame mortar]

Im saying this because battlefield 1 was made to be a positioning game. Obviously the camping in the corner is a situational thing, but someone with the better position will always win the gunfight which wasnt really a thing in the other battlefield games to THIS extent. Battlefield 1 was more for the casual player base, which i understand

[low spade]

I say it in jest usually, because the type of person I'm saying it to will probably get upset about it

[midnight warren]

Had whole games where my only kills was defib and I was making sure absolutely no one died

[echo maple]

CHat, did you know the catgirl strimmer got caught out, their account was banned mid stream, and they quietly swapped accounts and pretend they didnt hahaha

[native pike]

xp/match is important and not kd

[hollow harbor]

@vocal sedge he and his freind been shittalking others for KD and now he is leaving the convo 😂

[gleaming quiver]

noob

[vocal sedge]

Idk the match lenghts are all diff

[hollow harbor]

unbelievably ironic

[snow spire]

KD shouldn't even be a big topic here I've gotten long shot kills with carbines and asr's on semi

[native pike]

post sifu

[gleaming quiver]

whats a sifu :3

[vocal sedge]

My bt games were all like 10-15 mins never really had a full lenght game

[tame mortar]

I mean i gave you the "proof" on how the older battlefield games were like this, and you went radio silent. So im guessing your brain isnt working properly or just rage baiting

[wicked tangle]

stuck to one strong gun the whole beta and you’re bragging about it lmao

[snow spire]

it's quite easy to get kills even if you aren't a good fps player, just PTFO

[hearty kelp]

listing titles isn't proof

[wicked tangle]

He’s 100% baiting

[obtuse garnet]

a tank in good position harder to kill > people hate that , most casual want tank/ifv keep moving around and get themselves stuck inside some stupid map design with maze of cover easy for infantry rpg/c4 the tank from all direction

[vocal sedge]

Have functional eyes and just click on bad guys thats all it takes

[native pike]

i apoligize for my last message trying to keep it friendly and welcoming for everybody here

[midnight warren]

Ya know I’m not a fan of that weapon. It just doesn’t have enough ammo.

[hearty kelp]

not really, I just preferred the m417 because it was closest to the scar-h, doesn't mean I didn't use anything else lol. In fact I liked the sniper.

[low spade]

I got 20 mastery on every gun as a personal challenege for fun. I think I struggled the most with LMGs

[hollow harbor]

@short peak check with @iron bridge bro

[short peak]

The real pvp happens in the discord it's ok

[worn marten]

It’s an odd time. I’ve seen so many console players saying they don’t want to play against pc, or even saying pc ruin things because we make games ‘faster’ when it’s just been the natural way of things from before crossplay.

No side wants the other’s experience to be the default cause they’ve always varied

Now they’ve got to appeal to both and are struggling :|

[tame mortar]

Go look at any videos on the older battlefields, and seeing that you played them you should already know

[wicked tangle]

You just said you used it for 90% of the beta dog

[hearty kelp]

Understandable, I'm a huge fan of it though because it's meant to have high damage. Huge SCAR-H fan in BF4

[austere swift]

but someone with the better position will always win the gunfight which wasnt really a thing in the other battlefield games to THIS extent.
Disagree. Positioning is rewarded, that I don't disagree with, but the games slower TTK allows mechanical skill to be rewarded equally. I've had numerous instances of being caught off guard by someone, only to flip around, get them, and make it out alive. If what you're saying was true, that wouldn't be the case. I would die every time.

[vocal sedge]

Fps games are literally like clicking on desktop icons that move tbh

[drifting kraken]

Battlefield uncs why did you cry about slide cancelling?

[snow spire]

Literally bruh, revive if you can also - very simple dynamic here. If you die because of a better gamer then wait to get revived and get revenge in unconventional ways

[split flint]

Anyone here good at detecting cheaters in video i got sent a video it might be cheat but i cant tell

[hearty kelp]

90% = / = 100%, and exaggerations are a thing

[slender epoch]

If we get claymores yall are cooked im putting dem everywhere

[midnight warren]

Sameee I hope we see the scar or the Mtar

[runic venture]

My controllers aim assist couldnt follow the slide

[drifting kraken]

Scar already leaked

[hollow harbor]

[hearty kelp]

aghghghh i hated the mtar tbh, felt like the carbine aek in 4

[wicked tangle]

Get on kbm bro

[hollow harbor]

im enjoying this so much

[drifting kraken]

Mtar in there too

[native pike]

move your stick

[hearty kelp]

i deliberately avoided using it and the aek971 because i felt they were a bit too much of a handhold

[slender epoch]

556 or 762 scar

[short peak]

Leaks are against the discord rules incase you disappear and wonder why

[vocal sedge]

Was there slide canceling in the game even lol, i dont remember anything canceling a slide

[hearty kelp]

i was more of a fan of underdog guns like the UMP-9, which I think they should bring back

[craggy tapir]

The older games were both twitch shooters and slow shooters. It just depended on what version you played. Console was slower 99% of the time while PC was faster. There's also the smaller communities like the clans or hardcore players

You can't say that the older games were one speed vs another cause they were both at the same time

[hollow harbor]

people do you have any good XP farm for 2042 ?

[midnight warren]

We don’t have leaks we have prophetic dreams

[tame mortar]

You are saying this but it doesnt mean much, every other player would agree that battlefield 1 is a heavily positioning oriantated game. If the player has the aim, and is in a good position he is winning 99% of the gunfights. In your case it could be different, but due to the nature of the gameplay and movement, that game IS a positioning game rather than a movement game, you know how i know this? Because you can barely do any movement mechanics within bf1 to win your gunfight other than sliding a bit and getting nowhere

[low spade]

Not really, but you could use the the momentum into a little jump and spam the two and you could slip/slide a bit too quick for the oldies here

[hollow harbor]

btw older games do , you can check people's infantry and tank KD

[snow spire]

aim assist can ruin your accuracy if you want more control in your aim, turning it down to like 15 or 0 can make you a thousand times better

[worn marten]

I think they refer to jumping out of one as a slide cancel, not the way MW did it

Even then I never saw a soul using either

[runic venture]

Breakthrough and blasco farm those assists

[dawn dawn]

Never complained myself or saw it in-game but after watching gameplay of it I am glad they are patching it. That is for COD. People who want to do that can go play that instead

[hearty kelp]

i'm VERY happy they're also tuning guns to be good when bursting and tapfiring, because the m417 felt like ASS a lot of times

[obtuse garnet]

7.62 strange upward recoil , heavy damage , good range , accurate , good optic and foward grip customize

[native pike]

just make aim snap to 80 and aim assist you are good

[hollow harbor]

all of maps make me want to alt f4 , is there no portal auto xp farmer

[vocal sedge]

The momentum didnt even exist and the momentum bugs they see online arent even meant to be in the game and wouldve been removed entirely, but nope just dummify the entire movement system

[plucky dawn]

I hope the DMR’s get some love. Because I had zero reason to use them in the beta.

[hearty kelp]

i think the M417 takes the place of the SCAR-H in 6, but I'd be cool with a 556 scar just as a new gun

[vocal sedge]

Slide was the most useless mechanic in the game aswell funnily enough

[low spade]

they didn't dummify or change anything that mattered lmfao

[worn marten]

Definitely is positioning focused over movement, solid agree there. I wrote a whole google doc page on movement in bf the other day for this a discussion exactly like this, glad I did haha

[craggy tapir]

So glad they brought spread back. Having a laser at any distance is just bad for having fun engagement distances

[low spade]

Slide was based, I used it for cover so often

[south scarab]

This is stolen underdog valour 😤
I was out there using SR-338, G36C, and DAO 12

[hearty kelp]

let's hope they don't get overtuned to what they're like in 4, absolutely everyone uses them and spams with zero penalty

[wicked tangle]

Slide and movement is just fun that’s what I don’t understand

[tame mortar]

Exactly, so if they were both, why nerf the movement of the next battlefield and turn it into a slow shooter instead. The movement as of right now is perfect and isnt too fast, they will turn this game into battlefield 1 and it will just be another camping fest game

[runic venture]

Problably is some fly around cap flags or ammo bag farms but those turn my brain to mush faster than the actual game

[vocal sedge]

Yeah it felt good for rotating positions but you couldnt really use it for aggressive plays, it was just too punishing to risk out of position plays with it imo

[low spade]

because everyone in here and on reddit are 50 and unable to see their screens from their rollators

[native pike]

increase the ttk so we need to magdump 2 mags into eachother

[snow spire]

in the shooting range tapfiring is very good because it can make you more accurate in mastering the guns - on controller you can semi hold down the trigger on semi auto to make the gun fire automatically but it's limited to the semi fire rate, same thing like macro's on PC when you try to do the same thing

[hollow harbor]

they said something about using movement offensively and them wanting to change that 💀

its bf1 all over again

[tame mortar]

The mechanically impaired battledads with the combined KD of 0.2 think a bit of sliding will turn the game into cod

[snow spire]

so i like the idea of rewarding that i love it

[hearty kelp]

as long as 2 round bursts are deadly accurate as they should be, I'll be completely happy

[plucky dawn]

I could see that being an issue in open weapon modes. Since everyone will be using the meta weapons. But closed weapon modes it should be fine. (I hope this doesn’t start another argument here 🤣)

[sacred cedar]

*gif of two man mag dumping each other*

[craggy tapir]

🤷 They're trying to find an even ground between two communities that had completely different experiences. This is one of the biggest reasons why crossplay was a mistake; they had to merge two fundamentally different communities and then try appealing to both of them

[short peak]

"He reached"

[vocal sedge]

Idk depends ig havent seen the updated movement, some devs said its not super crazy

[wicked tangle]

It’s so crazy the egos people have they can’t stand seeing people do something they can’t

[native pike]

no wonder battlefield vets love bf1 its slow and clunky

[vocal sedge]

But seems pretty absurd that you have reduced accuraccy while sliding even though youre already in a disadvantage if you are sliding so lol

[obtuse garnet]

PC mouse macro make 2 round burst rifle like an-94 beast

[snow spire]

trust by past analytics and gameplay from older games you can be sure that it'll work the same way

[hollow harbor]

they should post this stuff with a video of before and after

[wide oar]

what color were they

[rustic merlin]

DMR’s are available to all classes in closed so it wouldn’t matter

[vocal sedge]

Most skill limiting video game ive played in my entire life

[plucky dawn]

Ahhhhhh well nvm than. 🤣

[sacred cedar]

It okay to be bad,as long you play support

[echo maple]

guys i was watching hot tub streams and now...i cant play battlefield

[runic venture]

Atleast with blasco you get assist, spots, blocked spots passively rapidly on breakthrough while you can farm kills in the meantime

[hearty kelp]

DMRs are already accessible to all classes in both modes

[native pike]

yeah bf1 looked good but was so boring to play

[snow spire]

maybe a little slower but the accuracy is buffed that way, it's like having a switch on your semi auto rifle

[slender epoch]

Don’t use the Ebr it’s gonna hurt

[austere swift]

I don't disagree that positioning is rewarded, and I don't disagree that BF1 has less movement "tech". I do prefer BFVs movement because it is essentially BF1s with more to do. I just feel that excluding the impact BF1s slower TTK has on these encounters just comes off as a bit of bad faith, though. That changes the way these encounters play out far more than in comparison to 3 and 4, which have faster TTKs.

[vocal sedge]

No cover,rewards missing, sweetspot, bad map readability

[tame mortar]

Its not the platform thats the problem, its the player itself. In battlefield 4 the platform was the problem due to the mechanical exploits being valuable only on pc, but in battlefield 6 there isnt much of a skill gap in the current movement due to the lack of mechanics. There is no problem with the current movement

[wicked tangle]

Bf1 is awesome and such a great game but it’s a bad battlefield game

[hollow harbor]

welp that is sort of playing the game , i was hoping not to do so 😂 will try blasco tho

[rustic merlin]

It’s why closed weapons BF4 style is pointless. The meta will just be reliant on the strongest carbine, just like BF4

[austere swift]

Why is it a bad Battlefield game?

[south scarab]

I don't think crossplay is the cause
They don't seem to confidently know what makes truly good game design and instead take direction from player appeals

[echo maple]

you can do this on redacted with bots for a long time and afk it, you will come back to like 4 pips every 15 mins

[native pike]

crossplay should just be input based

[vocal sedge]

Same case in any battlefield its just that movement allows you to atleast do something to those players

[craggy tapir]

Fair. I personally thought that the beta movement was a pretty good middle ground

[runic venture]

Yeah redacted is goated for abusing blasco

[vocal sedge]

A good positional player wont lose to anything anyway

[hollow harbor]

redacted coop matches ?

[zinc pagoda]

we need a battlelog

[slender epoch]

I think the ARs outclassed the m4 in essentially most circumstances. Famas/aek/ m416 was the most poplar choices in bf4 loadouts

[vocal sedge]

Unless unlucky and gets cancered by random gadgets or something

[plucky dawn]

Do you guys think the devs will remove Auto Spotting? If not, do you think they might as well just add Auto Aimbot and Auto fire weapon too?

[native pike]

que redacted with blasco and farm xp its pretty easy to get battlepass xp

[echo maple]

yeah its half xp technically but considering u can finish em in as little as 7-8 mins ...ya know

[tame mortar]

In a game like battlefield 4 the positional player always loses lol, maybe not if the other person is across the map but still

[low spade]

such low hanging fruit, at least pust some seasoning on it

[wicked tangle]

The weapon/movement feel and cinematic focus is wack and unlike 3/4 what I consider to be gas battlefield gameplay

[late ermine]

hey does anyone know if those twitch drops will come back? i had quite the large family emergency unfortunately and I never claimed them :/ I do hope I can get them though

[snow spire]

isn't it set to moderate xp because of the bots?

[craggy tapir]

It's a core part of Recon's loadout so probably not

Just like how it's too late to remove Assault's double primaries

[worn marten]

I think they’ll make it exclusive to recon as it seems to be intended. But I’m not opposed to auto spotting.

Better visibility is good

[vocal sedge]

Idk if you predict you dont really lose but it all depends on timing

[hollow harbor]

i tried queueing that stuff but was too impatient to stay in till the bots got in

[native pike]

i mean real que not against bots

[wicked tangle]

Why do people care about losing enough to restrict crossplay

[plucky dawn]

For recon yes. But all classes like it was in the beta? Please no

[runic venture]

Probably in season 4 for 750 BOINS each

[tame mortar]

With the amount of air strafing and mechanics you can pull off its really hard to win against a good mechanical player imo

[echo maple]

they will go in in like 2 seconds if u run left and to the back

[late ermine]

is that what they said?

[wicked tangle]

Would you rather play against max players quickly or win more because you’re playing against worse players

[low spade]

cause something something old battledad something something trying to relax after work(dollar general really kicked his ass)

[austere swift]

What do you mean in regard to weapons? Random bullet deviation is a bit eh, but I think BF1 did a good job at finally putting weapons into proper engagement roles versus them being a bit of a free for all, personally.

[wicked tangle]

LOL

[obtuse garnet]

dice can change that to assault can carry rifle and shotgun

[snow spire]

mmm yeah u right

[runic venture]

Some EA guy will read it and see money so now they will

[hearty kelp]

i do agree, the M4A1 was quite a bit overtuned

[late ermine]

oh i see, haha, my bad 😭

[hearty kelp]

got lasered at like, 60m by that thing

[echo maple]

guys if you are a gamerdad who thinks your KD doesnt matter....i know of a game for your 1000ms reflexes called farmville

[hollow harbor]

the ACE 32 was goated

[hearty kelp]

ROFLMAO

[plucky dawn]

Ya for recon only it makes sense. But all classes seemed to have had it during the beta. Maybe it was just a bug. No matter what class I was playing, I had auto spotting working for me at all times.

[hard niche]

Playing the same game he is, where do you think you'll end up

[hollow harbor]

3 shot BTK upclose and lasers somehow at range

[craggy tapir]

Eh. Imo they have it at a decent spot right now. If the shotgun wasn't as broken, it wouldn't have been much of an issue

[rustic merlin]

People over exaggerate how aggressive it was, while it was aggressive and should be tuned down, you weren’t auto spotting everyone on your screen. I think people are attributing recon spots as their personal auto spotting

[hollow harbor]

it was the best gun in the beta imo

[hearty kelp]

what's the strat for blasco on redacted with bots? i kinda wanna do that now

[native pike]

tugs was spotting like crazy

[hearty kelp]

it's a bit numbing to repeatedly play match after match

[vocal sedge]

Yeah its definitely harder to read but if you have efficient aim and decent positioning and player reads you generally shouldnt lose, you just have the advantage of advancer not knowing and not being able to preaim as good especially after movement and mid movement, definitely takes more skill and is harder to pull off, the movement glitches are practically impossible to read though

[runic venture]

Put motion sensor and the whatever radio she got at hotspot and watch the exp roll

[obtuse garnet]

so who get the grenade launcher now ? still assault ?

[hollow harbor]

that game gives me headaches after playing it ngl

[craggy tapir]

Ah yes, the worst argument for both sides

"if you want a fast pace go play CoD or Apex"

"if you want a slow pace go play ARMA or HLL"

[wicked tangle]

They’re like good in a vacuum I just don’t like the way they handle and feel vs the snappiness of 4 and such

[hard niche]

K/D really doesn't matter though

[vocal sedge]

Idk if you know prep hes a 4-5kpm bf4 player and he says its easy to counter with good positioning

[vocal sedge]

Played with meyek in 2042 etc og bf4 goat

[plucky dawn]

It definitely felt very aggressive that’s for sure. It was doing it for me no matter what class I played. If they limited it to recon only that would be much better I think.

[craggy tapir]

Assault had 2 launchers in the beta, yeah. You can trade one gadget slot for the second primary tho

[low spade]

Giving a shit about KD in bf is cringe

idgaf how other people are playing with their toy

[obtuse garnet]

then i think they should allow other class trade pistol slot for another gadget

[glass meadow]

Any EA Community team members answering questions? The purposed Recon level changes look pretty underwhelming, but the one thing that worries me the most is lack of the current level 2. If headshots can be rez'd sniper battles will go on forever. If you've played Warzone quad's in a sniper battle you'll know what I'm talking about.

[haughty bramble]

auto spotting made it very hard for me to lay down in the objective, blend in with my surroundings and shotgun peoples legs out from under them

[vocal sedge]

Entire game is about killing more and staying alive more to have more map control lol

[snow spire]

does the signal jammer on blasco give you more combined xp with the tugs?

[haughty bramble]

i was the same color as the ground but there was a massive red arrow on me

[hollow harbor]

that sounds hot out of context

[worn marten]

Headshots still instakill with the sniper tree

[snow spire]

sick i'll go for it

[tame mortar]

Yeah the positioning player can win if they go against someone that isnt that good as an infantry, but anyone that is slightly above average can win based on movement alone

[gloomy thorn]

the respawn beacon needs a nerf

[hearty kelp]

i do my best to have fun with it but it gets very grating after a while

[craggy tapir]

No. Just no.

All classes already have 3 gadget slots if you include the signature gadget (that you can't change). They shouldn't get a 4th

[glass meadow]

Is there some sort of confirmation on that? I missed if so.

[vocal sedge]

Yeah this might be situational tbh i can see both things happening

[glass meadow]

Yeah I don't mind the respawn becon being removed.

[vocal sedge]

Its easy to predict positioning and harder to predict bf4 movement but its not super uncounterable either, depends on position really

[worn marten]

You didn’t see it in the beta but each class has a minimum of 2 trees.

Sniper tree -> instant headshot kill
Spec ops tree -> (whatever the new one is)

It’s not gone

[vocal sedge]

And timing ofc

[tame mortar]

Obviously if they do the movement exploits where they can teleport across the room in seconds its pretty hard to predict lol

[native pike]

will spec ops tree still have the uav ?

[glass meadow]

Awesome.

[jade escarp]

lf1 bf2046 squad 6

[gloomy thorn]

the fact i can spawn in behind people with a gun that can delete people in 0.1s alongside having 0 recoil, I can place that beacon down as soon as i spawn in too

[craggy tapir]

Iirc spec ops is kinda the stealth tree

[craggy tapir]

All recon trees have the UAV as the final level

[gleaming quiver]

banned

[gloomy thorn]

the kills were so free in rush and breakthrough

[worn marten]

For now, both trees get the same ‘ultimate’

[vocal sedge]

Thats borderline impossible yeah

[austere swift]

Battlefield Vs movement was nice. Felt like a good balanace.

[hollow harbor]

that tree looks so weak vs what he had

[worn marten]

Basically blasco - ‘the tree’

[vocal sedge]

But like intended game design movement isnt too insane

[native pike]

i hope they keep it, the uav also "smoked" you or am i wrong?

[tame mortar]

Battlefield v had incredible movement, thats what we needed

[hollow harbor]

i mean level 2 sniper headshots arent revivable is INSANE

[hearty kelp]

exactly why BF4 is still unfun to play today when the "top play" is all about abusing glitches that shouldn't be there in the first place

[worn marten]

Going absolute neo mode and dodging shots mid firefight and still firing back was.. fire

[hearty kelp]

i do well regardless, but it's a bad thing it never got patched out

[vocal sedge]

Bf5 movement was so clean sucks that the gunplay was doodoo garbage smell

[austere swift]

What's wrong with the gunplay?

[plucky dawn]

I’ll tell yall whaaaaaat. I was very happy when I saw the devs saying they were toning down the firing accuracy while jumping and sliding. THANK YOU.

[tame mortar]

I think its fun lol, i personally do them because im used to them because i used to do comp in bf4

[vocal sedge]

Maps were dogshit in bf5 too

[hollow harbor]

gunplay ? i cant get past its UI

[craggy tapir]

Not really. From what I saw, it happened so rarely in the Beta that it didn't really effect anything

[runic venture]

Dice since you listened with open weapons i think its time to listen again. I want open gadgets, same argument you made with weapons. I want to look cool and tactical. So give my ghillie the ability to drop health and ammo. Also why cant my engineer wear ghillie? Why im forced to recon to look cool and tactical? Tsk tsk

[gloomy thorn]

i didn’t run into too many slide kills but the jumping was annoying, brings back bf4 memories

[hollow harbor]

i've denied point caps intentionally going for headshots with it

[obtuse garnet]

trash balance compare to bf3 bf4 . where if assault/medic need more firepower they can't save people , here they lose nothing no GL = 2 weapon , no 2 weapon = carry GL how that even make sense

[craggy tapir]

Good rage bait

[hollow harbor]

its definetly strong in the right hands imo and if a crackhead uses it he can wipe whole areas of the map

[vocal sedge]

During or after lan esports

[hollow harbor]

lvl 1 was 50% slower healing and a wallhack on t hem after you shoot them

[tame mortar]

The accuracy while jumping is already horrible and there was no point nerfing the movement further, i am willing to bet anyone that complains about the current movement cant give me an explanation to why its too fast

[worn marten]

Two GL and double the primary ammo

Or one GL and half the primary ammo for each.

Make your pick

[hearty kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/vouzou-gif-16893795403363881294

[plucky dawn]

Ya there was a few times I’d be walking up to a corner while aiming and someone would be flying around the corner midair and shoot and kill me. That was frustrating as hell. It felt like I was playing…… do I dare say it? COD. 🫠

[hollow harbor]

like cmon that class tree is an obvious pick

[tame mortar]

I used to do INF scrims with people

[hearty kelp]

anyone who doesn't abuse these things agrees that this should never return and should have been patched out

[native pike]

they cant just go to the battlefield reddit they are posting "movement" clips where people play with 120 fov

[frigid crater]

there is other gadgets for assault that isn't the GL but it does give the primary more ammo basically

[austere swift]

It ain't even wrong though. If the argument for opened weapons is that people will still utilize their roles simply out of desire to do so, regardless of weapon, you could equally apply that argument to gadgets. Which is actually what happened in 2042s case, many people argued exactly that before release.

[hearty kelp]

Such a "high level" of play, so high that you need to abuse glitches that pogo you off of walls and teleport behind people. Comical

[vocal sedge]

Yeah ive watched vods scrims seem fun in bf4

[hollow harbor]

some guy showed me a movment strat where you mash 5 buttons together and peak shoot someone instantly while throwing a med pack down

[hard niche]

Reddit ahh argument here

[obtuse garnet]

what ? assault can put underbarrel GL on one main gun and also carry stand alone GL now ? wtf ?

[gloomy thorn]

accuracy doesn’t matter when you’re within 10m of someone, you can jump into a room and melt someone up close?

[worn marten]

Aside from evasion that’s the one scenario where movement is beneficial. It’s an aim and reaction test, keeps defense feeling less stagnant and puts you on your toes

[hearty kelp]

tip of my tongue, but that too

[vocal sedge]

Only way to play bf4 these days tbh

[tame mortar]

Mine? If so, explain to me how the current base movement is too fast and why it should be nerfed

[frigid crater]

2042 doesn't have open gadgets anymore to be fair

[vocal sedge]

People embraced the glitches at one point

[hollow harbor]

it had a goofy name , i cant remember it

[hearty kelp]

yeah if your brain is drained of fluid and you don't enjoy the other 80% of the game perhaps

[craggy tapir]

It balances decently when compared to the other classes

Assault has a useless stim shot, 2 launchers (one of which can be traded for a Shotgun, Carbine, or DMR)

Engineer has a repair tool, a rocket, and a tank mine

Support has defibs, a support pack, and a deployable barricade

Recon had a TUGS, C4, and a spawn beacon

[steel sundial]

cant wait to disable crossplay

[frigid crater]

assault can use 2 gadgets that are grenade launcher which switches the third weapon with it.

and you can put grenade underbarrels for the assault rifles and carbines

[gloomy thorn]

engineer could also equip both anti air and anti tank

[runic venture]

Worst mistake. Open them up. Just scrap classes?? Name it just “soldier”

[hollow harbor]

@hearty kelp I FOUND IT , ITS A ZOUZOU AND VOZOU JUMP

[hearty kelp]

vouzou is the medkit vault I linked earlier i believe

[frigid crater]

you could take the thermobanic and normal grenade launcher for assault on the beta pmuch

[tame mortar]

You wont even go that far while jumping bf6 i promise you that much, and even then the player with the better movement should win the gunfight if they know someone is in that house. You should be rewarded for knowing where the other enemy is and using movement like that to your advantage, rather than being penalised for it. It just means the camping player gets the advantage and it turns the game into arma or squad

[hollow harbor]

check out zouzous too

[hearty kelp]

at the end of the day, anything remotely resembling any of that should never return

[obtuse garnet]

ah yes old cod mw noob tube era is back

[vocal sedge]

Vouzou rouzou mouzou slither is all i remember there was a second slither too but forgot the name

[craggy tapir]

Wasn't that patched? Kinda weird if they allowed it to stay since the macro of choosing between launchers is part of the balancing

[hollow harbor]

this is why saying bf4 had good movement gives me worries

if i die to a zouzou i am uninstalling the game

[jagged lion]

I got 2042 for 4 bucks and I still feel scammed. The rewards aren't worth this 100Gb mess of a game

[frigid crater]

they can't anymore

[gloomy thorn]

i enjoy holding a choke point and having someone jump past 4 of us with no smoke, no flash and killing 2

[hollow harbor]

kill me with skill not a button mash

[craggy tapir]

Regretting a 4 dollar purchase is insane lol

Kinda fair tho

[gloomy thorn]

i only really played engineer on the first 2 days and it was in the game at that point, my fault

[native pike]

imagine crying because of 4 bucks

[plucky dawn]

EA could offer the game for free and say (come play BF 2042 for 30min and get BF6 for Free). And I’d still not do it.

[steel sundial]

$4 is 100,000,000 zimbabwe dollars

[hearty kelp]

anyone citing "movement tech" or "movement" in BF4 generally falls into the category of "abuses glitches and plays only one class, one loadout and one map"

[tame mortar]

You gotta pick between air strafing or zouzou then, one takes more skill to do than the other

[hollow harbor]

had the same feeling for bfv , but 2042 was tolerable as vehicle gameplay on iwajima is fun

[hearty kelp]

don't forget the addiction to lotion and tissues

[wicked tangle]

Heaven forbid somebody with more skill beats me!!!

[vocal sedge]

Even without glitches theres a lot of movement tech lol

[hollow harbor]

one of them is literaly a button smash , what do you mean skill ?

[hearty kelp]

generally when people refer to "tech" they're talking about the glitches

[frigid crater]

2042 isn't that bad, i have fun playing the game lmao

[tame mortar]

You are meaning to tell me that the zouzou is something you can do in one go consistently?

[vocal sedge]

Bf4 intended movement tech is higher apm than bf6

[craggy tapir]

What's your favorite map? Not trying to argue anything just legitimately interested

[austere swift]

2042 Tanks are decently fun, at least. Major downgrade from BFV but you could still be fairly aggressive with them.

[hollow harbor]

thats execution , not skill

[tame mortar]

It is a skill you learn to do consistently, therefor it takes skill

[jagged lion]

I played two games and I'll be honest the gunplay just feels horrible, I've spawned multiple times right in front of enemies in my own zones and the game sounds so muted in my headphones

[plucky dawn]

The comments section under the BO7 trailer are pure gold.

[hollow harbor]

its not a skill to mash buttons to win

[frigid crater]

i fucking HATE AIR VEHICLES ON THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!

[runic venture]

They should make angels removed voicelines the ress sound for 6

[vocal sedge]

In 4 idk i didnt really like a lot of the maps there tbh but propaganda was my favorite

[tame mortar]

Ok whatever you say, i guess anyone can just pick it up and do it first go, bot

[austere swift]

How come, too strong or too weak?

[hearty kelp]

abusing a glitch isn't skilled, it's representative of a bad player relying on unintended abuse of the mechanics

[hollow harbor]

no if you peek bait me or out play me with normal movement thats skill

[vocal sedge]

Bf4 was when map design was progressively getting worse

[frigid crater]

too strong with a competent player

[hearty kelp]

CAREFUL next he'll call you a bot or crop

[hollow harbor]

dont act like you cant map that stuff to a macro on one button

[wicked tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-dash-elastigirl-dash-huh-dash-confused-gif-8115033237390744918

[runic venture]

Lancang dam was … something

[gloomy thorn]

air vehicles in 2042?

[austere swift]

Really? 2042 has the strongest Anti-Air in the series. It's pretty easy to deal with them in my experience.

[wicked tangle]

Bruh how do I embed 😭

[hearty kelp]

Interestingly enough the wall pogo literally requires you to rebind your scoreboard key iirc

[hollow harbor]

" oh no there is a guy behind this wall , quick let me press my zouzou button to win "

[frigid crater]

im tryna use the stinger on BF2042 but most the helis and jets literally have a bum ass infinite amount of flares pmuch

[tame mortar]

You cant, the zouzou needs proper timing and you need to know when to use it

[south scarab]

Movement tech in Battlefield shouldn't look like a Mirror's Edge speedrun, this is a different DICE game

[gloomy thorn]

clearly haven’t played against bf4 air vehicles

air is a lot less threatening in 2042

[hollow harbor]

oh yes i also remember a glitch to shoot with your secondary before its drawtime ends , something that involved binding keys to the same input

[frigid crater]

like the duration of the flares are so long and it has a small delay too when it stops 😭

[plucky dawn]

👍🏼 For Closed weapon modes. 👎🏼 For open weapon modes.

[vocal sedge]

Yeah you cant just zouzou into everything and expect to kill everyone

[vapid yarrow]

BF 2042 > only $3 on steam, should i buy?

[delicate carbon]

yea its always operation locker degenerates doing medic box vaults and other cringe shit, hope this isn't allowed in 6 and is patched out on sight

[frigid crater]

go for it, good arcadey game

[hollow harbor]

some guy told me about it to skip the peacekeepr drawtime in bf1 , he said it also works in bf4

[austere swift]

Ah Lock-Ons, such an outdated mechanic. BF1 and V made the infantry v air combat feel so much better thanks to their removal.

[gleaming quiver]

NO DONT DO IT ITS TORTURE

[native pike]

its 3 bucks cosmetics in games cost 20 nowadays just buy it

[vapid yarrow]

is BF 2042 story mode okay?

[vocal sedge]

If you really want the bf6 cosmetics yes, if you dont care then no its a terrible game

[craggy tapir]

Propaganda was good, yeah. I played Golmud a lot but that's only cause PS servers are like 90% golmud lol

Operation Mortar was my personal favorite tho

[tame mortar]

Thats the best part of battlefield 4 tho

[frigid crater]

the infantry anti air was peak

[delicate carbon]

no, it's the worst part of it

[gloomy thorn]

it’s not that bad, you only flare when there’s actually a missile you can’t shake off anyways

[vocal sedge]

Golmund was ape shit

[frigid crater]

BF 2042 doesn't have a campaign, its just MP

[vapid yarrow]

hohh

[rustic merlin]

Golmud is so trash tho unless you like vehicles

[hollow harbor]

gooofy ahh glitch abuse name

[tame mortar]

Obviously if you are a casual player, but its fun to do

[plucky dawn]

I loved it

[vocal sedge]

Youre a vehicle player then

[frigid crater]

idk tbh, i had more success on BF6 beta with the stingers than the 2042 one

[plucky dawn]

Yes.

[vocal sedge]

Golmund was aids as infantry

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. It's an insanely vehicle-focused map. I run engineer like 90% of the time because I'm constantly running into vehicles

[hearty kelp]

i remember one really sweaty guy actually trying to headshot me while I was knifing him from behind, because you can somehow shoot your gun while being knifed. the end goal was trying to headshot me with his 44

[frigid crater]

2042 portal maps from 1942 😭

[delicate carbon]

no, its the worst part of it because it fundamentally breaks the game's movement, casual or not it's idiotic????

[glossy wind]

that map was fun af just load it up in rush instead

[tame mortar]

Golmund, shangai, flood zone, zavod were horrible maps

[hearty kelp]

it was such VIRGIN behavior

[austere swift]

Yeah, it's funny to me when people argue unintended mechanics are a sign of "skill". Use them all you want, but they are crutches at the end of the day. Kind of backwards to take pride in that, it screams skill issue.

[runic venture]

Nooo the town the size of nuke town was fun the first 2 minutes of the match :(

[gloomy thorn]

game is free = more terrible jet pilots

[hollow harbor]

man that game is cursed

[tame mortar]

Its not fun for you ig

[craggy tapir]

Zavod wasn't the worst. It def had it's flaws tho

[vocal sedge]

My god those are so bad, i legit said that they suck in game and one guy said “but but its a 1942 map..” like idc where its from a toddler can make a better map

[tame mortar]

Yeah those maps were just NOT fun to play

[frigid crater]

naw not this, i saw competent players getting kills n shit and decided to basically counter him

[delicate carbon]

it's not fun for anyone except the person abusing it xD

[frigid crater]

if anything i turned bro useless the amount of times i locked into him 😭

[hearty kelp]

These people will die on the hill that all of the glitches they abuse are incidative of skill and not an inability to accept that sometimes, you lose the engagement because the other guy is better/outplayed you with a gadget

[delicate carbon]

it sure is "fun" to sit out of bounds too ... only for the guy out of bounds

[tame mortar]

And im not gonna lie shangai is equivalent to sharqi peninsula in terms of how bad the map is designed

[frigid crater]

these deadass make me cry bru

[vocal sedge]

My other least favorite was the skyscraper city map where everyone sat on roofs with spawn beacons, my god such a boring map lol

[gloomy thorn]

i mean, current jets aren’t that oppressive, they are about the same as 2042

[hearty kelp]

they CANNOT handle losing and go angry even after a 5-6 KD match because "grrr, that disgusting bot shotgun user. what a NOOB relying on a 0 ttk weapon against my .4 second TTK weapon.."

[craggy tapir]

Zavod is fun sometimes. It does feel like you're getting shot from everywhere at once tho since most of the match is within the main building

[vocal sedge]

I think everyone can agree that shotgun is a wheelchair weapon

[hard niche]

What, you don't like elevator camping?

[frigid crater]

i do notice when you spam stingers the jets and helis get countered pretty hard considering they have to back up a lot lol

[hearty kelp]

Also, L M A O on David Goldfarb laying out Enders on twitter. The dev of BC2/BF3 making him a lolcow was something I absolutely didn't expect but got me ROLLING

[craggy tapir]

Which one? There was like 3 lol

[hearty kelp]

Once again, the best update ever

[tame mortar]

Zavod at least had some balance to it, siege of shanghai did not, its as worse as sharqi peninsula

[gloomy thorn]

yeah maybe because in bf6 it’s a 2 hit for stinger? not a 3 hit like others

[vocal sedge]

I forgot the name but there was an objective with a glass ceiling and elevators

[plucky dawn]

Can we all agree that we are all excited for BF6 and it has the potential to be the next best BF game that we will look back on many years from now and say “Man BF6 was the goat!”

[vocal sedge]

Wrong reply

[autumn badge]

Siege of Shanghai

[tight prism]

[frigid crater]

the jets are 3 i think, but on 2042 the mini heli is 2 along with normal helis

actually the transport heli is like 3 or 4 on 2042 iirc

[vocal sedge]

Yeah siege of shanghai

[craggy tapir]

Shanghai is so ironic because they used it to showcase Levolution when it had the worst levolution in the game

[gloomy thorn]

shanghai was only fun for jumping on top of people and stabbing them

[shut tendon]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[frigid crater]

iwo jima 2042 is crazy btw, hella good

[shut tendon]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[tame mortar]

The map where the attack heli has like 30 buildings to hide behind while the enemy team has no AA to use

[rustic merlin]

Most of the levolutions were pretty ass ngl

[vocal sedge]

Rage bait

[gloomy thorn]

pretty sure it’s 2 hit from stinger on the f16

[granite root]

Right? What does 2042 do? Here’s a tornado and sand storm

[south scarab]

Worst was Lancang Dam
At least levolution on Shanghai actually improved how the map played

[hearty kelp]

It has potential, slowly but surely it's building up to look really good, and the recent changes are making me huff hope-ium

if they nail SOFLAM/Javelin I'm buying it on the S P O T

[craggy tapir]

The telescope one was the only good one imo

Flood zone did have a pretty cool one too tho

[chrome onyx]

I can't wait to play again, it's torture lol

[granite root]

Lancgang damn sucked

[obtuse garnet]

i think if dice put a bit more effort they can make engineer/support repair and revive teammate better without make them suffer so much from notable to fight during repair/revive time . something like : repair drone allow eng throw it toward vehicles they want to repair and it auto repair that vehicle , and some sort of special drug smoke grenade throw it near down players after few second any down player inside that smoke auto get up .

[vocal sedge]

Bf6 maps were so much better in everything

[rustic merlin]

Meanwhile all the community servers banning Shanghai levolutions:

[gloomy thorn]

I don’t think the destruction in Shanghai was great

[frigid crater]

it's not, 2042 iwo jima is actually hella good

[hearty kelp]

when they really should've been limiting the viper

[vocal sedge]

That objective was only playable once the building was knocked down tbh

[plucky dawn]

For real. I’m really excited to play again.

[tame mortar]

Cairo was probably the best map ngl

[granite root]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[gloomy thorn]

the fact you can grab 200 kill streaks on shanghai lol

[vocal sedge]

Yeah an open map with no cover for neither vehicles or infantry, crazy good

[austere swift]

Levolution was also nothing new... it was no different than the buildings falling down in BC2. I'm really not sure why they touted it as something new in the first place, I guess the scale of it? Even then, Shanghai was really the only one to have a "major" impact if I recall correctly.

[frigid crater]

??? i do not have this issue, the map isn't entirely open bro

[craggy tapir]

That's part of the balancing though? You get rid of your combat potential for a little bit to revive someone or heal your team's vehicle

[hollow harbor]

the map oringinally had fog all around you

[chrome onyx]

The last bf I got was bfv lol

[hearty kelp]

to be fair I found that doing rounds around the tower with the transport and gunning people down like Neo from the matrix was amazing

[tame mortar]

Dice needs to add strike at karkand or the portal community adds it instead, that map is too good to be left out

[vocal sedge]

I liked them all, empire state was semi cancer but by far better than a lot of the maps we have had in the past with bf1-2042

[hollow harbor]

remastering it without the intense fog ruins all hopes for a map design

[hearty kelp]

only thanks to my heli pilot, but also the transport minigun in 4 was AMAZING

[plucky dawn]

For me it’s the Server browser and what kind of custom options/rule sets we will get. They say it will be much better than 2042 and will have a lot more customizing. I’m really waiting for them to show it off. If they can pull that off good, this game will be gold.

[frigid crater]

i play iwo jima breakthrough tho so its like 🤷‍♂️

[granite root]

Strike and Karkand a good map

[vocal sedge]

And liberation peak would play better if they nerf sniping to the ground

[rustic merlin]

Empire State just took a bit of learning ngl. Once you learn it it’s really not a bad map.

[tame mortar]

Top 3 infantry map, extremely balanced

[frigid crater]

empire state is cinema

[craggy tapir]

Floodzone was one of the only ones that actually effected how the game played more than just reshaping a point

[plucky dawn]

It will be fun for slower pace tactical hardcore gameplay for sure.

[gloomy thorn]

the flanks on empire state my god

[hearty kelp]

ehhhh.. seemed fine to me man. I threw smokes like no tomorrow and rarely died to em, made sure to run with cover

[granite root]

Guy guys, we all know metro and locker are perfect 😂😂

[frigid crater]

battlefield 6 is just missing weather effects like rain, sandstorms and all that stuff

[hearty kelp]

the only time I died to snipers more frequently was when counter-sniping

[gloomy thorn]

no

[obtuse garnet]

well then the game need to deal with alot of players gave no fk about repair/revive while they playing eng/support ....

[hearty kelp]

which, I wanna complain, even low magnification scopes still provide huge glint- i think anything below an actual scope shouldn't give off glint or should give off way less

[frigid crater]

listen bro, battlefield 4 rain was cinema, ssame for BF5 and BF1 rain

[gloomy thorn]

a little bit of rain, maybe. no more 2042 sandstorms

[tame mortar]

Only rain ngl, rain would actually be cool in some maps

[runic venture]

Snipers peak will be so much better with open weapons. Now i can be engineer and take out the other glints while shooting down the heli and tanks!

[granite root]

Tornadoes

[hollow harbor]

remove sniper sweetspot

[austere swift]

I hope there is a St. Quentin Scar equivalent. God that map was fantastic.

[frigid crater]

2042 sandstorm is peak tho, the effects and such is awesome

[gloomy thorn]

I personally thought recon + a rifle flanking constantly was a much better way to play the class than using a sniper

[vocal sedge]

The best maps for me from each game is talah market, propaganda, prise de tahure, al marj, none in 2042 and cairo in bf6

[rustic merlin]

Remove sniper rifles and it’ll solve all of BF’s problems

[obtuse garnet]

as long as they stop making sniper scope bright as a lighthouse in middle of the night

[craggy tapir]

didn't play HL?

[vocal sedge]

Actually redacted was an ok map

[gloomy thorn]

we clearly did not play the same game

[austere swift]

Arras in BFV was also a really good map.

[chrome onyx]

Rotterdam bfv was one of my faves

[vocal sedge]

Nah i missed out on HL sadly, wish i did play it though but i was too hooked on bf4 at that time

[autumn badge]

Loved going prone with a Lmg

[granite root]

Grand Bazaar

[vocal sedge]

Garbage map lol

[wicked tangle]

Yo let’s talk performance s

[runic venture]

Yeah redacted is a nice fellow cousin to metro/locker

[unique tendon]

Looking forward all the assault players who will now camp on the hill with a sniper and spawn beacon instead of Recon

[gloomy thorn]

sandstorm just benefited only 1 team most of the time and it was completely random which team it would screw over badly

[wicked tangle]

I need 100 more CPU fps straight up.

[chrome onyx]

Only coz you was getting picked off with a sniper 😝

[craggy tapir]

Fair. HL only had like 1 bad map that was the size of 2 city blocks

[hollow harbor]

trueee , if only they optiminze the launch game to use the GPU more

[vocal sedge]

No its because it had 3000 windows 4000 different floors and no cover near the river

[south scarab]

it was relatively good for bf5 standards, it wasn't blatantly imbalanced on CQ (only mildly imbalanced)

[wicked tangle]

I was getting like 300 GPU fps and like 140 cpu literally nuts

[vocal sedge]

Ontop of the bridge

[austere swift]

Yeah I don't know why they think this will do anything to prevent that. Those players will just go to assault now.

[tight prism]

1 month and 2 weeks left!

[hollow harbor]

welp there is hope , console version ran at 80FPS with a target of 120 FPS , so hopefully their optimizations on consoles will carry on to PC in lessening the CPU load

[runic venture]

You’re gonna love empire state i can already tell

[unique tendon]

It would if they'd just lock weapons by default

[vocal sedge]

I wasnt a fan but its nowhere near as bad as haven, rotterdam or siege of shangai

[hollow harbor]

a theoretical 50% less CPU load could be insane

[vocal sedge]

Empire state was a relatively ok map incomparison

[gloomy thorn]

they need closed weapons, maybe if they add a community server browser they can turn on open themselves

[vocal sedge]

But definitely not very good

[hollow harbor]

empire state was quite bad

[gloomy thorn]

^

[chrome onyx]

What was the bfv map with the snow and the trains?? Sorry can't remember the names, but liked that one as well

[hollow harbor]

i beleive that map was made with the bigger gadget pool in mind

[tight prism]

I was getting max 95fps in game on console

[austere swift]

Narvik.

[obtuse garnet]

how about make sniper scope visible clearly for helicopter view make them rocket magnet ;))

[vocal sedge]

Narvik

[hollow harbor]

like ladders to get up on the buildings for example

[vocal sedge]

Narvik was terrible aswell

[hollow harbor]

still not the target right ?

[craggy tapir]

If they use sniper on assault they won't get auto spotting, won't be able to hold their breath, won't be able to stop healing with body shots, and won't be able to stop revives with headshots

[runic venture]

Loved rotterdam, Haven is just 4 assests from BFBC2 copy pasted 40 times in an open sandfield very sloppy map design. Shanghai was mid and quite boring after it lost its wow factor with levelution

[wicked tangle]

I pray

[chrome onyx]

Have to disagree lol

[austere swift]

Yeah... I don't think players like that care much about any of that. Doesn't change much.

[wicked tangle]

The beta ran WAY better than the pre alpha

[hollow harbor]

consoles have relatively modest CPUs , devs have to shift the game load to the GPU side to get more FPS

[vocal sedge]

They are automatically bad because theres too much angles and positions making the map insanely difficult to read aka you dont have any control over your own gameplay and you never have a very good position to play on

[wicked tangle]

I was getting like 40 cpu 180 gpu on the pre alpha, 140 cpu 280 gpu beta

[tight prism]

They havent said anything about 120fps yet

[hollow harbor]

our poor CPUs getting hammered with 10 billion rubble and breakable wall calclulations

[gloomy thorn]

im pretty sure my cpu was the bottleneck for my pc

[wicked tangle]

The best looking smoke ever rising out of a building as my pc creaks like a ship in a storm

[vocal sedge]

Destruction needs to be toned down with the amount of smog and dust they create its so stupid lol

[hollow harbor]

if you had the performance overlay on , you had 3 things right ? CPU , SIM and GPU

[vocal sedge]

Cant see shit for like 30 seconds

[gloomy thorn]

was on hwinfo and nvidia

[hollow harbor]

CPU is your current FPS that your systme produces , SIM is the speed at which the game simulates physics and GPU is the how much frames your GPU can push if it wasnt limited

[wicked tangle]

Nvidia overlay doesn’t show cpu frames just utilization percentage

[hollow harbor]

so if you had the number at the CPU higher than GPU

[wicked tangle]

The in game one is req for that

[gloomy thorn]

my gpu wasn’t maxing out but my cpu was

[hollow harbor]

thats a CPU bottleneck , it means your GPU is finishing its load faster than the CPU

[runic venture]

Noo its like a makeshift smoke grenade

[hollow harbor]

ideally the CPU should finish first to utilize your GPU fully

[plucky dawn]

If you have an Nvidia card, use DLDSR to render higher resolution than. That’s what I did since I had a lot of GPU headroom. 💪🏼

[hollow harbor]

but its a beta people , surely the game wasnt fully optimized

[gloomy thorn]

idk whatever it is, definitely was one of the better optimized triple a games this year

[wicked tangle]

That’s what I said about 2042 and then that game was optimized for a computer going to come out that year

[runic venture]

Cant wait to lose 40 frames to skins and charms 👍

[vocal sedge]

Ngl i was surprised, i had like 30-40 fps more on beta and it was more stable compared to pre alphas that i played

[chrome onyx]

Does anyone think we will get another short beta ?

[vocal sedge]

I was scared that i might not be able to play

[plucky dawn]

No. Doubt it. But would love it if they did

[gloomy thorn]

don’t have a 4K panel so didn’t bother going with higher resolutions, was pushing the max refresh rate on native so wasn’t that much of a problem

[fathom trail]

guys don’t worry

51 days left for BF6

[wicked tangle]

I was certainly impressed but I would do something evil for 80 more fps

[brittle jay]

The movement nerf is actually a bad thing

[wicked tangle]

1080p 240 fps should be the industry standard

[fathom trail]

open beta is over, forever

[wicked tangle]

Yes. Very bad.

[placid pond]

Ran even better than 2042 for me

[chrome onyx]

1080p...ewwww

[hollow harbor]

my value min maxed PC ran the beta fine i was so happy

[vocal sedge]

Its terrible yeah, reddit is having a honeymoon over it

[brittle jay]

They really want to keep making this game for boomers like forever tho 🥀

[gloomy thorn]

was getting 165 1440 at native

[wicked tangle]

It sucks but I lowkey get a headache at low frames I’d rather it look like shit than run poorly

[plucky dawn]

But you can still render at a higher resolution. Then it scales down to your monitor. Effectively giving you a much better image. DLDSR is a little known incredible feature not many people know about. Google it and check it out.

[placid pond]

what’s ur specs?

[hollow harbor]

best thing i loved about the beta is no body blocking and kit switching

[chrome onyx]

Fair enough.

[gloomy thorn]

7800x3d 5070ti 64gb

[wicked tangle]

Idrc how any game looks anyway besides tarkov I wish I had better graphics for that(even tho tark blows)

[vocal sedge]

Im getting a 9060xt for bf6 probs

[hollow harbor]

do you have a CPU to handle it ?

[vocal sedge]

5600, should be good enough to get 130-150 fps at 1080p low

[plucky dawn]

11/15/25 1.0 baby!!!

[hollow harbor]

you're cooked

[wicked tangle]

I have a 7950x3d and 4080 super
CPU: 140-160
GPU: 240-280

[vocal sedge]

Idk i had like 100-120 fps

[wicked tangle]

Can’t wait holy

[vocal sedge]

1% lows were pretty bad

[wicked tangle]

100-120 😟🔫

[vocal sedge]

Good enough to play but its not ideal

[hollow harbor]

should definetly wait a while afte release to see if your CPU wont bottleneck either

[wicked tangle]

Headache city for me

[drifting kraken]

Is 10900K any good for BF6 or 9800x3 better

[gloomy thorn]

x3d cpus >

[hollow harbor]

5600 , 3060 + stream was only good for like 100 avg and 76 1% lows

[wicked tangle]

But yeah it’s playable fs

[vocal sedge]

Idk i need a gpu upgrade anyway its a more impactful upgrade

[plucky dawn]

I locked my FPS to 120. Smooth and consistent. Never had any dropped frames since it had a lot of headroom. Even while rendering at 5160x2160 using DLDSR. 👌🏼

[vocal sedge]

8gb just isnt very good for bf6

[wicked tangle]

When my pc restarted after installing javelin it unselected XMP profile, after I reselected that my 1% jumped like 40 fps

[gloomy thorn]

medium spec these days is 32gb ram tbh

[vocal sedge]

We are talking about vram

[wary pike]

I might have missed this in the gameplay changed and updates. But can anyone inform me if the recoil is being sorted for mouse to natch with the controllers?

https://youtu.be/fe2BnDNx0mU?si=vSr87PDdF8Qq0omz

This recoil is alot for the mouse to the ps5 controller.

[wicked tangle]

Literally was unplayable without xmp ebabked

[gloomy thorn]

whoops, yeah 8gb is low

[hollow harbor]

yep

seige of cario ran out of VRAM on all low + ultra textures for me

[chrome onyx]

I take it most here are pc players then lol

[vocal sedge]

What gpu

[hollow harbor]

2070

[vocal sedge]

Damn

[atomic root]

hope they balance the engineer class.. coz having limited amount of engieers with rocket launchers and tanks beeing fucking godlike tanking 4 rockets and 360 no scope you in 1 shot is stupid

[vocal sedge]

I have a 6650xt it wasnt too bad its in between 3060 and 3060ti

Lexienn had like 100fps on his 3060ti at 1440p

[hollow harbor]

😭 my man had no DLAA

[vocal sedge]

I had taa off

[gloomy thorn]

the tanks have so much health it’s absurd

[vocal sedge]

Looked garbage

[wicked tangle]

I had AA off got much better frames and looked better to me honestly

[hollow harbor]

the GPU metric told me it was good for 120 FPS in matches

but CPU was limiting to like 90ish

[vocal sedge]

Yeah i didnt get a performance impact turning it off aswell

[gloomy thorn]

it was fine on the map with jets because the jet could pop them

[vocal sedge]

What cpu

[hollow harbor]

DLAA was like a 20% performance hit

[young kiln]

which sucks for me lol.
my ram isnt supported on my motherboard QVL at its rated speed, however its 8gb per stick variant is, i have 2x16gb sticks.

turning on XMP for me personally results in BSOD within 5 minutes of being in windows, without fail.

i had to manually set my timings to achieve 3200mhz on my ram, so while ive got the speed set now i lack any other benefits that XMP offers, and because of it my game runs extremely crappy compared to 2042.

and i WANT to update my bios, which i did to initially get manually setting 3200mhz to work, but any newer versions than the one i went to warn to backup bitlocker keys because it will ask for them on boot, i havent messed around with bitlocker ever at all, and dont want to risk soft bricking my pc due to bitlocker key not being something i know how to get 😭

[hollow harbor]

5500

[vocal sedge]

Ah yeah you have low mb3 cache

5600s have 32mb it helps a lot

[acoustic iris]

Got timed out for @'ing EA staff so wonder if the community has any idea? "As a south african player and in 1 of the smaller player bases it was great to see the way you've handled the matchmaking with the beta but the lack of a server browser means i can only speak for playing conquest. Will there be any changes to allow players in the less populated regions to know if it is worth queuing for a less populated game mode? (pls delete if against rules, cannot find answers anywhere else)"

[wary pike]

You mean DLSS not dlaa right?

[young kiln]

i have r5 5600x

it is kinda mid i personally will say

[vocal sedge]

Yeah same thing as a 5600 pretty much just tuned version

[hollow harbor]

true , and this 5500 has a disabled iGPU die inside it , whilst the 5600 doesnt

[vocal sedge]

It is but its okay enough

[hollow harbor]

no , DLAA ... if TAA looked acceptable i would've had it on instead

[wary pike]

Oh wait you on amd @hollow harbor ?

[wicked tangle]

Damn I wish I knew anything to try and help u there

[vocal sedge]

Im pretty certain a 9060xt will have a crazy performance buff once i get it, seemed like it was 100% faster than my current gpu

[wicked tangle]

DLSS has its own AA system right

[modern badger]

that i will say for ryzen 7000/9000 users disable the igpu you get better perf as igpu not producing heat so youll get higher clocks before reaching 95c limit..

[young kiln]

yeah true.
i just regret buying it personally especially with todays standards in gaming.

i was silly and i played nothing but rust at the time, and i knew the 5600x was an insanely cheap and powerful option for the game, however doesnt keep up in a lot of scenarios today in newer games

[modern badger]

idk about r5000 though as most dont have igpu so idk if u can

[wicked tangle]

I fuckin hate the artifacting in DLSS and the constant fuzziness

[wary pike]

Ahhh yeah some games I found work better with out dlaa or dlss

[hollow harbor]

mine is done so from the factory homie ,

[young kiln]

correct, if you dont have a gpu good luck booting into bios

[vocal sedge]

Yeah i got it 2 years ago, havent really needed to upgrade

[wicked tangle]

Honestly half the reason I feel confident about bf6 is because I haven’t had to use DLSS to get good GPU frames

[vocal sedge]

But i might soon not sure

[modern badger]

r7000 / r9000 arent though as they all have it unless its an F sku now (same as intel system)

[vocal sedge]

I could just sell my old gpu and get a free cpu off of that pretty much

[wicked tangle]

Unlike 2042 which requires insane DLSS super performance to get like 144 fps

[acoustic iris]

sadly qvl is 1 of the things u need to check when building, might be worth 2nd handing the ram dims and buying supported 1s for ur mobo

[hollow harbor]

yeh at 1080p its very artifacty

[placid pond]

kinda hate how every game relies on dlss nowadays

[wary pike]

Good gpu and cpu helps. Last year I got the amd 5700x3d. Best buy I did, very rarely get cpu issues now.

[hollow harbor]

5700x3d could be within grasp

[young kiln]

yeah i was a silly sausage, it didnt even occur to me that QVLs existed until after i dropped 2k on the pc, you live and you learn 🤣

[vocal sedge]

I think i can scuff out 200 bucks from my 6650xt

[hollow harbor]

call it a rare edition 6600 😂

[austere swift]

Even more ironic that DLSS requires an RTX card, which will grant you solid performance on most titles anyway

[hollow harbor]

they didnt make much of the 6x50 class cards did they ?

[wary pike]

Yeah man worth getting. It made a massive difference to my gaming experience

[vocal sedge]

Its actually quite a bit faster than a 6600 tbh but yeah the card was pretty rare

[young kiln]

6600 overrated, it is the bottleneck in my r5 5600x | rx 6600xt in most games

[vocal sedge]

It was like 33% faster than a 3060 8gb

[acoustic iris]

i had to help an IT guy trouble shoot and turned out the ramm he bought was right just the wrong speed (ddr5 and new mobo) take it on the chin and dont stress

[gloomy thorn]

some developers just don’t bother optimizing, rather they just go, use dlss and frame gen and say “our performance benchmark was 100fps”

[vocal sedge]

But slightly slower than the ti 3060

[placid pond]

fr aigis

[hollow harbor]

which is not saying much cause the 3060 8gb is a scam

literally a different die than the 3060 12gb

[vocal sedge]

Yeah but it was a decent buy at the time

[wary pike]

Is it worth getting the 9070 or get a older amd gpu and still get something good?

[young kiln]

yeah thats literally the situation i have myself in, for the time the pc is fine and has been with the manually set speeds for a few years.
to my knowledge QVL list is just what has been deliberately tested, not per say its limitations of component use, just what they know for sure works. thankfully i got lucky it seems

[hollow harbor]

honestly after trying DLAA In games , i cant imagine going back toAMD

[acoustic iris]

1080ti and 5600x all i had to do was all low and mesh ultra like all bf games, then 75% ress scale and 90fps at 2k

[modern badger]

ngreedia need to stop limiting cards by not enough vram tbh

[sleek mantle]

DLSS ON TOP

[vocal sedge]

Like i dont really have to upgrade i can still play most games fine and still enjoy bf6 on it if it runs the same as beta

[hollow harbor]

nvidia broadcast for mic quality is insane too

[wicked tangle]

Was on the hell let loose subreddit the other day and they were like it’s literally impossible to get 240 fps

[vocal sedge]

75% res scale looks like ass in battlefield games though

[wicked tangle]

It’s the worst part of modern gaming

[young kiln]

no one needs 240fps in ANY game to this day lets be real 😭

[placid pond]

ehh competitive games

[hollow harbor]

they own the market and they will do whatever monopoly they want 🙃

[acoustic iris]

100% xmp means qvl is a must check now sadly cos they keep cheaping out on the memory controllers

[wicked tangle]

Hop on counter strike for an hour at each fps and say that again

[gloomy thorn]

i forgot the name of the game but i remembered there was a game that ran at like 30fps native and forced you to use framegen and dlss to get acceptable performance

[sleek mantle]

not needed but enjoyed

[vocal sedge]

Battlefield needs a minimum 150 to run extremely good imo

[sleek mantle]

W 5080 + 9800x3d

[vocal sedge]

The drops in bf games are kinda crazy you always want good headroom

[young kiln]

i am a competitive gamer sir, 165hz is already beyond good enough for smooth and clean visual

[sleek mantle]

144 to 240 is still a good jump

[young kiln]

i feel like 240 would be smooth to the point of artificial motion blur and motion sickness

[vocal sedge]

It is yes

[modern badger]

yep i know i know i have a 3090 that was stupid money at the time. it hurt money wise but amd just arent competing and intel arent capable (at the high end i should add)

[wicked tangle]

240 fps just feels better it’s less like draining on the eyes and easier to play on

[gloomy thorn]

240hz is a noticeable jump in motion blur, 360 not so much and 540 is also noticeable

[wicked tangle]

It’s the opposite

[vocal sedge]

But 240 is still better ingeneral interms of feel and motion clarity

[young kiln]

i get where ur coming from, but i mean the other way around

like it would be too smooth, resulting in sickness from the fluidity

[hollow harbor]

like people with a 7900xtx cannot get some good AA in the beta

[atomic root]

lol kids bitching about having 540 fps and the game looks like its a washed up game from late 90s

[young kiln]

i really dont know i havent used 240hz guys dont clown me im a 165hz user

[placid pond]

yes but some people really need that damn “competitive edge” I think it’s a bit overkill but I see the reasoning

[atomic root]

hell wanna play a game on low settings just so you can get over 200fps

[vocal sedge]

Why would you even use aa with a 7900xtx

[wary pike]

Eyes don't see pass 60 so you won't be able to tell from 165. I'm crap at shooter games so makes no difference for me 😂 😅

[wicked tangle]

But it’s less of like just a game running faster and a game looking closer to real life

[young kiln]

im gonna stop you right there