#battlefield-6
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Also. BF6 Phantom Program? Hopefully š¤
BF1 Phantom Program was hard but god damn. The ending was worth it.
man i remember doing it on ps4, pain in the ass recording the morsecode, uploading it, downloading it on pc and opening the file in audacity everytime
When does BF6 actually release has it not been revealed yet?
devs, please, in BF6, no more ammo counts by numbers. Let's update this. Count by magazines, pleeease. For example, 6 magazines + 1 in the weapon = 210 rounds with the ammo perk. Come on, pleeease!! #pre-ordernow looool
like helldivers
helldivers is an arcade game and it works well
YUP I definitely see jackfrag's guide in there.
Yo is alpha beta test on console or no
OH and the COURTYARD. THE COURTYARD WITH THE WEATHER. OH GOD.
And you had to find an EMPTY SERVER to boot.
yeah
You donāt want bfv attrition back š
is there a way to upload fanmade battlefield music or nah? š¤
Not to mention changing TTK's everytime...
the revolver was worth it tho
in 6 it will be top, because it is very similar to bf3 and 4, only much slower
Ur server icon is something
the tag or what do you mean
Tag why is it private for
cuz its my private server
Should i redownload 2042
Oh kinda lame though private
"Colt Single Action Army. The greatest handgun ever made."
Only if you want to be disappointed
you want it?
No thanks I'm just curious
me and my friends just found it funny as fuck
Yeah I got rid of it cuz it got boring lol
Header format Jumpscare
Damn
A lot more āleakedā videos coming out now.
I've seen battlefield 6 gameplay on YouTube lately it looks cool
I just noticed that. 
Anyways...
looks awesome! (:
Play testing happening?
i've seen a bunch of videos of pure gameplay in tiktok and it looks amazing so far
Ik I might pre order fr
does it look any different than it did 3 or so months ago?
Near enough every week
not really tbh
And I didn't get any word yet? Damn.
Fr
100%
damn, i wasnt super impressed by it back then. i mean it looked just about passable and the audio design was incredible but everything else was kinda eh
I hope battlefield 6 is by real engine ps5 only and Xbox series s/x
I hope it's accessible by everyone you prick
its still early alpha, it can definitely improve!
Who u calling a prick
Just remember no pre orders!!!
Sorry, I meant dumbass!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olR9ORmgRqg
are there videos real?
YOU
That's better
it can i just wasnt really feeling the vibes the same way bf3 or bf4 alpha footage felt, i think its lacking a lot of identity. gunplay can definitely be tweaked though and i hope they decide on locked class weapons
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Fuck you
Same, i love bf4 and i can definitely see it being heavy inspiried to feel just like those 2
Why u mad gng
hoping they record all new voicelines for mp cuz theyre really dry in the bf6 alpha lol
I hope battlefield 6 can change regions same APEX
think thats their least concern, but they will make it less scuffed im sure!š

is it already revealed what gimmick bf6 will have
?
Being not as shit as 2042 is my best guess
I hope they don't make themselves too similar to cod
I like how it's the more serious one
Doesnāt seem to have one really, itās sort of a mishmash of many things
Battlefield doesnt feel like a military recruiter
Bro it's been confirmed it's on real engine ps5 Xbox series S no pc no ps4 I'm kidding 
what the fuck is real engine
do you mean unreal?
The un un real engine
I thought you were a minor tbh
Hell naw I'm 24 years old
I thought you were 14
specific
Damn two young

unc
I'm not unc yet I'm still young
where, im certain the game is on frostbyte
Gamemaker studio
Why
*too
Something bud
anyone know if servers are gonna be avail for middle east ?
im not your "bud"
Don't make me get stone cold Steve Austin on u I'm jsp
š
you are NOT 24
2004
Why are you so... dumb?
No I'm not ur dumb
minor
Uhm wha?
Why wont my game launch on labs bf6
I don't have PC
i gotchu
Wait, check if he is British
Ps5 better then PC thrust
i just couldn't resist the gif, sorry
i thrust u bro!š
Why
dang!
Most 18+ sites got banned in UK
Sorry I don't like paying thousands dollars for PC
HOW DO I PLAY BF6
And to access them you wither need to do a face scan or register your ID to the government
Sorry, I ate the game
you can pay 100 bucks
Are you British
I wish I was British
Where is my key located to play BF6 I BOUGHT PC VERSION
It's kinda funny that a petition has already gotten over 100k signatures to repeal that act
Where are you from
Phoenix Arizona
i bought the game with my moms credit card where is my game!š
I from china
lad is from the future 
1989 Tianemen Square

will there be a open beta?
Of course
Probably will
Yea how i open the open beta I have key i buy help plz
will be crutial for a succesful launch
remember to pre-order!š
not doing that mistake again
skill issue
Ima pre order trust
i trust!
where is beta
Were
ey diud where is beta loco
Beta not out yet
XQC?
so on youtube how have people played it already?
dont feed it its been 9 years since the last good battlefield.
are they still accepting ppl for the playtest? i got invited but forgo to rsvp :/
hello how to join the playtest
they played the pre alpha
ah thanks for letting me know
thats been on going for several months now
yall still on BF6?
imagine not playing BF7
kek
bro got his 9090Ti Super for sure
my game laggs in 2042 on amd drivers
How can I download battlefield labs?
you cannot
and there has not been any fix for like 3 -4 months
I got invited to labs and I dont see it in my EA launcher
they still invite people?
no
I thought it was over since the beta is on the 4th of August
I'm sure there would be instructions when you get your invite
But, once you are invited you are supposed to retain access for every future test
thought they stopped cause the beta is coming
watch the velada on twtich guys, omg 8million views
Emailed em and havent heard back either
I'm watching battlefield 6 gameplay rn on YouTube
sorry im on lunch break!
lmao
Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes
Saw on reddit BF6 beta playable... whats up with that lol
It's alpha test not beta
Beta hasn't came out on consoles yet
Anyone else feel like the gunshot sounds should be more violent and there should be more recoil
When is beta for pc?
Are you impling that its out on PC? lol
Yea it's only on PC rn
I'm seeing footage online
Exactly
Where? Lol... Been bugging on the EA app but no info on it
when they announce it
HOw do i get in the beta?
you dont
I thought beta wasnāt until August for this game
this is so entertaining!
No you don't - I will!!!
nuh uh. ur banned
lol
it isn't
people are just looking at PRE-ALPHA footage, thinking it's a beta and getting all worried
yeah
Thanks big dawg
Someone needs to tell em
True, this game is going to bust up COD for a change lol
It's on PC - There's footage here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWecEyS5ZTo
can't post footage of it
yeah it does say Alpha
Its not the beta footage i thought it was but it still looks good!
I mean if it's all over the internet why send it
Yall remember the BF3 and BF4 betas omg
Makes sense theyāre not gonna have beta till they release multiplayer footage.
im so ready for this, i missed this so much...
Multiplayer footage for beta should release on the 30th no???
31st i thought
31st
31st
oh okay rgr tht ty all
We love you CDR
Love you all! o7
If they keep the bf4 mechanics and add some new good stuff itāll run cod into the ground hard.
I hope they have tactical elements like leaning and mounting
cod is already dead
good news
They should take some Tarkov mechanics. As someoneās whoās sank thousands of hours into that game they should take some from them.
i'd rather they don't, which ones did you have in mind
yeah or Ready or Not
why do people keep saying this?? they're barely competitors, cod's worst year still sells more than battlefield's best
that slow, methotical tactical movement is clean af
Ready or not is good game ngl
The lean peaks, the ability to zoom in with the scope without going from 1x directly to 9x
That would be awesome on the leaning and mounting... Im just ready for a new BF... I really did like 2042, but i got into it way to late because of the issues on release i didnt touch the game for 18 months lol... I hope we start in a good spot with BF6, i read something saying they were really focused on a strong release so lets hoooopppee!
yes please!
it's ai control system isn't particularly fun imo
if it had R6 2's map planning system then i'd be all over it
Cod makes a lot of money from micro transactions. Compare bf to cod on micro transactions cod beats them 10/10 times
I hope they bring back the immersion elements from BF1 like when you go prone and move around your body is physicalized like BF1 had it!!!
cod also has more game sales period
MTs should of never been brought in, unless they were going to make the base of the game free and add MTs to make costs
infinite warfare sold more than battlefield 1, in case anyone forgot
It does look like a combination of BF3/4 with BF1/5!! Just hope they evolve them both a bit
Which are you comparing to? Cod releases once per year bf does not
Bf 1 was also ass btw
whatever year had both titles
I dont know which was BF1 and BF5 same timeline and didnt really mess with them
Bf4 and bad company 2 and bf3 are their best titles so youād have to compare those
it's not even close, cod players gobble up anything they're served to the point where even suggesting battlefield might outsell cod is just silly
Even COD Warzone and the new COD's have tactical elemnts that surprized me like being able to shoot a pistol while on a ladder or hanging off the side of a fence. COD has also implimented a great lean mechanic when you get close to corners or w/e. I feel COD has actually evolved a lot. White up unitl 2142 BF regressed a bit... Hopefully this will be a full revolution of the BF franchise. Bringing the best aspects of all of them to one game! Fingers crossed!
If Iām not mistaken mw2 or mw3 old school were one of those bf releases as well so they definitely beat bf that year
Battlefield 5 is the best game ever made
Cods lean mechanic is client side btw. It does nothing for your opponents sir
Please make it feel like that
battlefield is the best game ever made
you guys dont play star citizen do you š
bf4 was competing against cod ghosts and still got outsold, same with bf3 vs mw3, bc2 vs black ops
it's not even comparable
I know a guy who spent over $600 on that 
Hi, how can I access Battlefield labs on ps5?
COD's single player campeign is unmatched as far as FPS's go...
"play"? no you don't play star citizen, you pray and hope it ever turns into a real game
titanfall 2
checkmate
Titanfall 2 was excellent just too short imo
Bf4 out reviewed all of cod
how important is Vram for BF6?
My GPU is below the minimum (2060) listed
I currently have a 1660 super with 6gb vram ryxen 7600x
Been looking at B580 12 gb vram for $330 or the B570 10gb vram for $220
But just found these offers:
AMD 9060 8gb vram for $260
Nvidia 5060 8gb vram $280
if we're counting entire storylines then cod4-mw3 is just so much better
Sales will always be in cods favor it has more history
but but the engine! Server meshing tech!
You'll be fine Darkmatter
youre cooked. bigger is better for these types of shooters
I wouldn't know as I don't pay attention to their campaigns :3
Are they worth watching do you think
Bf just doesnāt have the player base to outsale cod.
it's an investment into the future.
-# someone unironically answered me with that when asking them 
"the server meshing that mmos figured out 20 years ago? come on chris let's get you to bed..."
fine for 1080p at medium most likely with no RTX ofc
man 100% i used to watch the mw campaigns on youtube before i got a console, they're so much fun
don't wanna spoil anything but they're so large scale and exciting
And to be fair thatās battlefield compeating with 2/3 of cods best games
I did watch Face Full of Eyes' analysis of MW1's campaign, but just none of the others
there was also entire side-stories going on through background radio chatter during the missions
Anybody playetesting BF6?
if they are they can't tell you
How do you get in bf playtest?
sign up on ea playtesting website
yeah its like a fully fleshed Movie production but using the in game engine and assets/models to produce it. They're always good imo!
You sign up on their website
I did all the signing up and stuff, been waiting since February
gotta keep waiting
Youāll most likely get in when itās open beta
yeah you'll get in when it's not running anymore lmao
Lock weapons to specific classes
I'm patient. I'm skeptically optimistic about this.
ironically having seen gameplay that wasn't meant to be out in the first place has me far more interested in the game
From the gameplay Iāve seen they just took bf4 and made it with better graphics and newer mechanics. It should at least be a GOOD bf game
They need to Lock the weapons to specific classes
Someone had a BF6 gameplay video out, huh? If they havent taken it down yet it makes me think they are okay with it or even want it to be up.
but its fun to play Falck with AR
i feel like some of the magic is lost since we saw leaked gameplay, but it definitely helped show that dice is on the right track
sure the surprise isn't there
but at least I know it's going to be somewhat fun as opposed to fearing that it could be absolutely horrendous
Dice knows their series is on the line theyād be stupid to not listen to their player base
Preach
add a battle royale again
does anyone want to play 2042 tonight with me š š
locked weapons restrict gameplay too much
this was never a problem in past games
atleast give some 2-attachment plus-system
Classes are inherently restricted before
jesus the LAST thing we need is the plus system
3 too much, but 2 slots plus system would be good
A battle royale could be a crazy cool thing in this game or could be a complete bust I only see it being a absolute win or just a bust no mid
plus system completely destroys the purpose of gun customisation
there will be one
might be good for the battle royale (prob the original intention) but not in multiplayer
na, you never use 5x scope for long range as AR without plus system, because it would be garbage at close range and u locked to it
I would be very curious how they do it if they do one.
yeah that's the whole point, there are pros and cons you need to consider
if it is a br then I wish br enjoyers a very 'good luck'
not holding out on much hope for it
"i can't use my gun in every scenario so just let me carry every attachment i might need at the same time"
Iāll say it once and Iāll say it 1000 times over again if they add Tarkov mechanics bf will be amazing.
wish there will be maps like spearhead
What is that a clip from???
And makes the support class less important in the match 
I know you mentioned what you wanted specifically earlier but if you say something like this you'll get an armoured train come after you hehe
idk I thought it was funny and posted it
there are a million mechanics in tarkov and 99% of them are terrible so which one do you mean
It's from buccano, gemini told me
@tight prism
We need gold like hardline bronze and silver. On our guns not that tier one bs
cant wait to play the free BR mode! hopefully its good this time.
I'm in!!! Told ya!!! Go to the EA Portal and check your account - see if you got in!!! Good luck!!! See you on the Battlfield!!! o7 all have a good one!!!!
@light notch u better show me them guns
The scope reticle choice, the ability to zoom through the scope like 1x 2x 3x etc. the ability to adjust your height stance like a slight crouch, the lean mechanic that affect both client side and opponent side, maybe even a health mechanic that takes your healing into a deeper level.
lad is already speedruning getting kicked out
those are all good except stance and complex health, those are just milsim mechanics that would make the game unnecessarily complicated
a better suggestion would be auto adjustment for crouching depending on the height of cover
@rancid crown Tarkov falls short because itās underfunded but imagine bf taking that stuff with its funding. Itās a chance to make some great things
i do not want to imagine that
I agree with the auto adjustment
first Battlefield game to make $0 on launch
I can assure you tarkov is not underfunded
Just want to throw this out there... if we're getting platoons/teams back with 6 it would be really nice to see platoon stats + a breakdown of platoon member stats as well. Makes running a team easier and putting together optimal squads. ā
the stance change is nice but frankly the time it takes to set up it just won't be used. People are moving from cover to cover constantly, the pace is just too fast to really have it be utilised properly
Tarkov is very well underfunded on the scale of billion dollar companies
Where a kits in EA portal will it be ?
besides, auto adjusting has existed before with vertical ads peeking and such
Iām all for new graphics⦠but they need to take things back to the roots. Bring back the same type of classes. Locked weapons to specific classes. Have a couple weapon options that any class can use. Specific gadgets for specific classes.
Assault = assault rifles and medic bag
Engineer = Smg and repair plus rpg
Support = Lmg and ammo bag
Recon = snipers and respawn gadget
Itās that simple
especially in the support department
that's like comparing coca-cola to some off-brand sparking water. They aren't DICE level but they still have millions they just suck
tarkov is just run by an incompetent studio
If you havenāt played a lot of Tarkov those mechanics sound complicated but believe me in a few hours it becomes habit of doing it and you can definitely run and gun with all those movements and stuff I do it on the daily because Tarkov is the only thing that can scratch my itch rn. But for console then yeah itād be hard
You have to sign up or have had to of signed up before I believe
the last thing we need is tarkov mechanics if i have to climb onto the wing of my F35 because some goober shot a bullet through my flaps i'm going to lose my shit lmao
Fr
I know this is fruit, but I canāt get the unheard edition out of my mind
the point is they're completely different types of games with completely different playstyles. A bunch of mechanics sound cool on paper but would never translate well into battlefield because it's an arcade shooter
Unheard is a scam donāt buy it
I have 5K hours on tarkov I understand your point of view I just dont think it works in context of battlefields pacing
The peaking mechanic in bf1 was really good
Nobodyās gonna fucking pay $250 for the unheard edition, those prices are unheard of (see what I did there
)
don't think I ever used it
I enjoyed the trailer
genuinely never used peek, if anything it just gets in the way
corner detection doesn't always work, and you get the geometric disadvantage. Plus it's just kinda dull
although I do agree baba I think some sort of more in depth healing system would be really cool from a medics POV, the dragging already looks awesome
Peek useful in bf
I agree about the arcade style for sure donāt take the exact mechanics but kinda think about it and make it your own. Just saying there could be some cool things they could do with movement and combat that arenāt the same as everything else.
I wanted to try out Tarkov, but judging by their business practices, I donāt think I trust in Nikita with kernel level access to MUH computer (yes I know itās Battleeye doing that but let me have my moment here)
but I mean I'm never on the ground so my opinion probably isn't as important. as long as my little bird and jets work fine im good
dont i'll never get those hours back
i bought it like 5 years ago and played maybe 2 hours because it ran like shit. Glad i never got into it seeing how awful it is now
Their anti cheat sucks if you play Tarkov just be prepared for cheaters you just gotta move on from it lol thatās the only way you donāt lose your sanity
Are the beta signups out?
i remember when they were selling account bundles "for friends" except all it did was give cheaters a bulk discount lmao
I am aware of the rampant cheating problem in Tarkov so BE isnāt doing shit
Will there be crouch running in BF6
I have a 4k pc setup it runs so smooth but I agree you shouldnāt have to break the bank for a game to run halfway decent but when you get it to run smooth it is a masterpiece
99% sure i saw it in the leaks
I hope they bring back some sort of multi-person plane. Attack chopper has sucked in the recents and im worried it might be buns in this one too. I'd like to be able to have a gunner in a jet with me or have someone be more useful in my little bird instead of spotting simulator
I also actually hate the response by the developers for the unheard edition they were constantly trying to sweeten the deal and just offer a bunch of shit to the edge of darkness owners as a way to sort of soften the blow, but nobody was buying that
defeats the whole play with friends system when they're on the ground all game and i never get out of a heli
Thank you all signed up, already had a EA account. Fingers crossed
Tarkov could be a goldmine if it was ran by another company
i clicked on that link and got a server error webpage chat am i cooked
I enjoyed bf2042,hardline and 5 lol tbh
I do always forget that bf is a console game to so you canāt go in to much depth because theyāll run out of buttons
the bane of developers
im buying it on all my platforms
You aināt kidding
we're getting a campaign yeah? or did i imagine that
Console holds every fucking game back
they could also make it voice activated š
Any drones in 6?
I'd love to give a controller main an arma 3 ACE controls listing and just see their response
YESSSSš¤£
give a console player DCS world controls without HOTAS and watch them jump off a cliff
'So to wipe your goggles, which happens over time in dusty environments, press ctrl + shift + T. Got it?'
'what'
@worn marten Iām gonna add you as friend and weāre gonna play some bf when it comes out
sure
damn no invite is crazy
You want one to big dawg?
if It's good that is
in front of all of us 
Sent
got a huge backlog of games to pass the time

Better accept that shit Ryuji
locked in mf
signed up for playtest too i hope my pc can handle it lmfao
how many people are getting picked for the playtest? i just signed up today do i have a good chance?
So uh
When jetpacks and wallrunning
Just get a 4090 and i9 like me youāll be good
TITANFALL 3 WHEN 
Any word on whether BF6 will have community servers? Like if I want to host a server, can I? Or is it all matchmaking based?
I'm looking at upgrades right now, I've still got an i7 and 1080ti lmao
if a 3080 doesn't work I will be very sad
Brooooo update that GPU š¤£
i knowwww lmao but I bought a motorcycle instead of upgrading the rig. Only some regrets xd
Your cpu aināt bad but get that gpu uppppp
I have to convince my woman to let me drop more on a new rig without her shooting me
PLS NEVER
Felt that dude. Luckily I got mine before my woman so itās kinda grandfathered in š
master irl slide cancelling and you'll have a good chance of dodging it
gifs dont work in this server i forgot xd
need to be purple
which isn't obtainable :(
will there be a challenger 2 or 3 in the game?
Really thoughh make sure your ram is at least 32gigs thatāll be real important
yeah I've always struggled with bottlenecking in that department
You ddr4 or 5?
i'm hoping for alot more british vehicles and aircraft and weaponry in the game because this is the only game where they're represented for non historical purposes
4 xd
Get 64 then.
tempted to get another 16 actually
but getting it all put in is stressful even after having built this thing up from scratch
this rig is from 2017 lmao I haven't touched it since
honestly same
Would be nice to see what we have as I never see our stuff in any shooters
T force ram is cheap and good for the price my guy
i dont want to build but pre-builts are just so much šø 
I got i9 13900 and 4090 with 32 gigs of ddr5 for 4k on my prebuilt. Thatās when the 4090 was brand new.
4k 
Yep shit was mad expensive
Have the same Specs. Looking how good the game will run š
if she DIDN'T shoot me i can still only do like 1500 max 
won't ever forget that feeling of getting a 3080 for msrp 
I just signed up to battlefield labs. Do I have to wait or can I just do something to download battlefield six or no?
I game in 4k got like a 1000$ monitor im so excited
your chances of getting it are miniscule, and probably pointless since beta is right around the corner
Take that 1500 and get a 4080 or something
Ok thx
You need ram more then anything rn though
I was going to originally but I need to upgrade my ram but my motherboard is full so i was like fuck might as well just get everything else
I really hope EA doesnāt screw this one up
I think its full anyway I might have two extra slots im just not well versed in pc building
Itās a huge learning curve for sure. If you ever join up with me Iāll help as much as I can
I've got RTX4080 but i'm living in Kenya for the moment just hoping they are willing to connect a server from here and the connection is good enough with my VPN via South-Africa š©
You should have a server
homie finna be IN a map xd
Seems like the BR mode might not arrive for 'months' after the game has launched - insider gaming
that doesn't bode well
whether it's there at launch or not I won't play it still 
I really donāt want them to focus on br. I want them build a multiplayer that blows shit out of the water
remember 2042s br lmao
you mean like run my own server
Donāt let cod bully them into the BR market
at the moment I think it's moreso execs bullying them into it
2042 didnt have one
No no like there should be a server in your area that you connect to and play and maybe you might have a server you can run not sure on that.
it had that weird sattelite gamemode where you loaded in as a squad against other squads and had to extract or whatevr
True
looking at this chat.... does my i5, 1660ti and 32 gigs of ram have a chance?
XD
Is battlefield gonna have an open beta again? I heard them mention it regarding the class sygem
like halo infinite doesn't let me connect without a vpn with location south-afrika but maybe bf6 will have more server in afica
Yes. Should have decent 1080 gaming would recommend a gpu upgrade though
i no have moni
real
Bf should have some kind of server down there
im at 1440p which screws me
You should have decent 1080 gaming
awesome, i'm fine with that
Expect around 60-80 fps with the maps especially with destruction
Either way I still can't wait for the BR and bf6 in general
more than i was expecting tbh so i'm happy
Guy how long u wait after early access application???
Iām excited for a br in bf but also I want to get a multiplayer that blows my socks off ya know?
should i redownload bf 1 to get back into that feeling or nah
how do i get access to the labs
wats ur opinions on skins
Hi guys, any info on the beta release? (next week?)
register
as long as it's actual combat skin and not clown makeup
If your gonna do that download bf5
this is ea , a greedy company , do u think the game will back track on the grittiness in the first few seasons and get stupid skins later on
yeah let's hope cause the vpn slows the already not so fast connection down more and i'm a big battlefield fan upgraded my desktop when bf1942 came out in 2002 and have been a big fan ever since buying new desktop and later laptops just to be able to play the latest bf š
probably but who knows. time will tell
definitely
I donāt think this game does stupid skins if they have a brain and listen to their community
Butttt thatās a big sized if
they'll start with it, then probably do 2042's style of just veering slightly away
bf2042 looking at you right now
How will ps5 run this game š
be fine
If the game busts out the door I see them going with stupid skins. If their milsim wins out the gate I think they stick with it within reason
they must have learned something from their latest bf release
the game isnt coming to last gen so current gen will be more than fine now
Bf2042 should be their lesson not to follow the crowd
"must have learned"
heard that before
2042 isnt that bad now
I share your skepticism
i like the fact they go back to 64 player maps instead of 128
Yeah now itās not. It took them along time to make it right
It needed a whole other year of development really
bf maps are not made with 128 players in mind
too bad can't even boot it rn because of secureboot xd
Well guys Iām out of here ufc main event is on Iāll see yall later š¤š»
o7
who you rooting for
yeah me to the old crowd dana got him some new teeth he said
How can you sign up for the beta?
Yeah after he got his jaw broke he got new teeth hahaha
uncle dana š
go to the #game-news channel and scroll up a bit
once the beta is announced you can
Oh okay thank you
Guys itās well be better than call of duty I think
i don't get it each time i go to http://go.ea.com/bflabs i have the subscribe button and have to re do the survey, same for you?
?
as Kratos have said
Keep your expectations low and you'll never be dissapointed
im going to do something controversial
I'm going to break my monitorr
i may or may not pre-order š
yo can you still get into labs to playtest
i will
someone please help bro i can't control myself
pre order to get early beta, refund if you don't like
TF we supposed to do?
XD
wait for next week
Is there going to be another BF Labs Playtest?
it's in less than 5 days. a little bit of patience
Guys the trailer battlefield 6 Graphics itās legendary video games ever ššš«”
beta is most likely after the MP reveal
probably, but beta will be happening soon
facts
beta testing
I love helping people but answering the same questions over and over is draining
Beta data will be released 4-8 i think
new rumours are saying its gonna happen straight after MP reveal
āWe are so back!ā - fuck you paid shills
sorry
i just wanna play BF Labs again
i sleep now
Ų
Battlefield 6 will surpass bf1 as the best one ever. I can feel it
soon we all be playing the beta then ill be instant pre-ordering lol
bf1 being great is very arguable though... I disliked it heavily...
How do I access the beta?
not the base stuff, but I just felt the map design was to chaotic, and also the joystick support was lacking
cant rn
i prefer modern warfare (not means COD game)
Itās only a standard edition and a phantom edition getting the phantom edition on pc and then my ps5 pro
at this point i dont expect another title will ever have joystick support for flying again
so guess time to resadle to controller for the flying
bro trust if you can just get used to mouse mnk for flying is the move
I never could, I did use mouse for flying a bit in 2142 back then until I got a new joystick
for me its the whole lifting the mouse to reset that trips me up
Anyone else think the sniping looks too fluid? Personally I prefer when snipers are kinda slow and clunky unless you're standing still. The concept of run and gunning with a sniper in battlefield just doesn't sit right with me
how to get bf labs client? is it not in ea games?
Couldn't you make it work by remapping joystick to controler binding ?
I tried it in bf1, but I never could get the analogue axis on the joystick to work nicely with the controller input
I think its easiler to just relearn to an xbox controller on the pc instead at this point since I expect that will have better support going forward
the drivers for my old logitech is so old as well... and there were BIG issues with having them work in the win10 security framework... they blocked the windows 11 upgrade because they blocked one of the security features
soon W11 š
So is the game gonna have an anti-cheat that works. Looks good plays well, but if you can't keep the hackers out...what's the point. Here's hopeing it works well
Ahh, I still remember finding a booster that drained tickets on a server I jumped on in BF3... caught it on video... and Dice anti cheat manager at the time, was the GF of a colleague of mine...
simple work around, play on console with crossplay off
yeah if they try to have me do secure boot like 2042 i wont be buying
I hope they get the fucking memo because that's absolutely insane that I have to change MY bios settings for YOUR anticheat
big company like EA can afford anti cheat bit crazy
I hope if they just do a fairly similar formula like bf3/4 it should be fine, nice class based system, some levelution, solid gunplay and vehicle play and well have a decent winner that can be tuned to be amazing as long as the foundations are there...
There will never be a solution vs cheat, the only good solution on paid game is to flags cheater and match them together (if they don't want to play the game let them have it their way)
I think this is on purpose, World war 1 was pretty chaotic (if i am right)
Best gun for 2042?
for sure there will always be a way to get around any anticheat just give cheaters time
Bout to download 2042 again boys
i be having more fun on delta force than 2042 and delta force has better graphicsš š
Also, it would not had the Atmosphere if it wouldnāt be chaotic (sry my english isnāt very good ._.)
make sure u secure boot ur bios for daddy EA
maybe a slightly controversal opinion
2042 IMO shied away from going proper futuristic, bf4 teased all these amazing return of 2142 goodness with the titan hangars and gauss rifle, then we got a near future thing that lost any future crowd and really cool tech.... but was to far away to grab the modern audience as well... I really think a modern graphics / 2143 wouldve been amazing, the old titan mode, mechs, hover tanks, whole shebang
I hope this game doesnāt have cross play between pc and consoles
can turn it off
Wym? Y
u can't play 2042 without setting up secure boot in ur bios
Wont find any games
you can
Lol no
Oh. Yeah Iāve played 2042 before
lol yes
it was more the map design for me that did it, I felt it lack focus in rush, and be to split off in spawns and such... small scall maps and the tdm and similar game modes was lovely... I was even on site testing bf1 in dice headoffice as well with the whole eyetracker thing and everything

Holy shit triler to bf6 is fire
indeed
They changed it in May of this year
To be fair, the video and trailer teams was always amazing though
What did they change
Requiring u to secure boot ur computer
I hope they dont fuckup
So stupid lol
Very
i downloaded last month and couldn't play cuz of it so i just uninstalled
With bf6
I do hope their battleroyale they have coming out will be good
I dont mind a lot of security requirements though... basically I wholly support locking the kernel down not to allow any third party stuff into the kernel, and then use API's for any third party software...
Secure boot is like, minimum at this point
Where is the beta
its not though, its EA not wanting to pay for a better system
Only game ive seen have secure boot
^
the logitech drivers for my joystick was blocking the memory integrity and core isolation part of the windows 10 security framework, thats why I ditched my joystick after a while... but the uninstall feature didnt work, hade to manually hunt down and unload the dll's from the library... secure boot should be a non issue for most people really
If every new game that comes out not just battlefield requires secure boot then i would need to change it but i won't change it for 1 game because they don't want to work on it
ive been on pc for 10 years and haven't needed it. I think its a huge blocker for casual gamers too that dont even know what bios is
Takes a few minutes to change.
More worried if they fixed the random false positive bans they were handing out. I was banned for weeks and their āappealā process is Ai and a complete joke.
Where is the open beta BF6
basically anything today has a tpm chip so, enabling secure boot is basically clicking a button... and I dont see why you wouldnt want the signature checking... its not foolproof, but its better then nothing
If PC is having to do secure boot how will they counter kronus and stuff like that granted i don't know exactly how kronus works but seems they would need to do something there aswell right?
Thereās probably gonna be a lot of people whoāll be too lazy to turn on secure boot and not play the next bf at all lol
I wouldnāt blame them either
Agreed but if you don't know that you need to enable it, your game will simply crash (happened to me) no specific error message need to search on forum after 3 days not understanding what was going on
How i can play the beta of battlefield 6
July 31st
Thank u
something that has kinda confused me with the leaked gameplay footage is this, will we be able to play as the US or other Nato nations in multiplayer because at the current all ive seen is British soldier models for the Nato faction
need the MP 416 REX ha ha
i wouldn't even let me start the game up without giving me a windows error for secure boot
thats kind of bad, they need to have an actual message telling you whats wrong though
i didn't even know wtf a secure boot was tbh lol
It's not the 31st of July. That's when we'll have more info
had to look it up
not that hard to implement, but couldn't be bother I suppose
I mean this is a whole new game so hopefully they figured something else out rather than go down the same route as 2042
I think they may still be doing on site beta test i got a invite but don't got time to drive to the site they are testing at
im hype for it. taking days off of work to play the beta šš
After bf2042 I just canāt get on the hype train.
lol
Justifed
Agreed, maybe I just too old for that shit š
Honestly i liked 2042 when i put in my mind that its not a battlefield game just acted like it was something completely different lol
I spawned once in a LAT4V jeep in the enemy spawn, high-up in the air, upside down with like 6 seconds
Then i got tired of it
i hope they do caps again tbh
I've seen August 4th as a possibility. I guess we will learn more on the 31st!
New rumours are saying beta will happen straight after mp reveal
Open beta or invite?
Open
Bought BF 2042 (pre order even i believe) started the game day one walk into a bush and sink to the bottom of the map
I told ya! ha ha
lmfao
August 4th
All the leaked gameplay we are seeing is an alpha from may which they are playing an even older build
Its the future bro we got phasing tech now i guess
i believe straight after, since its a new rumour.
Would be nice if it was straight after as we'd all have the weekend then
the last leaked i watched from chinese guy from last month, he uploaded video every game he just played regularly like everyday
from bilibli website ofc
ive seen the leak gameplays, kinda is like bf4 from what ive seen
its like bf4 remastered, with reshading, darker and sharper in details.
we can't really call it bf4 just because it's modern, it has basically nothing in common with bf4
open beta when???
next month
Battlefield 6 season 1 NEW TAKEDOWN
all the chopper, tank control are the same, maybe more option to toggle something but its as simple as bf4 - 2042
more gadgets for infantry, some can bring drone and area scan ball with him etc.
ammo guy can choose to bring medic pack or ammo crate. sooo
f35 and f22 are on their loading screen so we dont have to missed out on the best dogfight raptor

Man I wish the game had 5 classes instead of 4
bf4 vehicles you mean? it is not simple lol
Isn't BF6 going to support MnK on PS5? Was going to buy one tonight. If not I might start building a better PC but I was gonna wait on that
bf4 vehicles have the highest skill ceiling for a reason
I've been enrolled in Battlefield Labs since they launched the inscriptions and nothing.
im looking at medium battle tank right now lol that can put in 5 ppl, controlling it is the same as normal tank in bf4 - 2042
IFV you mean?
yeah but the main cannon is bigger and longer than any ifv u usually see, its like one of those fifth generation combat-proven Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV)
In my opinion, Iāve always felt like itās the right decision to have five classes for the game
Assault-AR- role well to assault
Medic-PDW -role reviving downed players
Recon-sniper rifles - role overwatch/scouting
Support-light machine gun -role ammo/suppressive fire
Engineer-shotgun/carbine - role antitank/anti-building
Personally, Iām in the boat where I donāt really care if they go open guns or locked guns for classes, but I would like to see this so that thereās breathing room for each member of the squad and people who just wanted to play the assault role can focus on pushing objectives
Thoughts?
Battlefield 6 season 2 ā¬š§š”x95 vs Ak-47š”ā¬ā¬
How do you get the beta?? Lol
u dont, until august
Oh thanks!
Cant you people read? š©
BATTLEFIELD 2042 S1 S2 S3 S4 S5 S6 S7 š
Labs is over most likely
Have you seen the gameplay leaks?
Whoās got pics n videos of the alpha test and attachments and all weapons pics
Typical COD player
dont fall for that silly ragebait
Guys should i download battlefield 2042 or 5
Me
negative IQ behaviour
Mind sharing in dm I have saw some stuff across YouTube but nothing good I. Havenāt played bf since bf4 and battlefield hardline @mild sorrel Plus Iām definitely prodding this Thursday on pc n ps5
your not too smart are ya?
In my opinion this is the best way to spilt the classes in a way that gives us the best results
What?
Never been in labs, it doesnt matter.
Also im not the one leaking stuff
you know you agreed to an NDA right and your posting this stuff publicly in the BF discord
When did I say I was in labs?
I never said I wasš
Bf will have a come back
I just download leaks and stuff online. So easy to find.
Your ban bro not mine
You cant get banned for downloading public leaks
Bf will come back
Im not in labs and never was. Chill out š
just telling ladies
I really think im the only person on that planet that played labs and didnt record anything lol
your not
Doesnt break NDA by recording, instead breaks it by telling people youre a member.
This isnt the flex you think it is
im not flexing wtf. how stupid
just telling ladies
Its a common term to describe stuff like this
when labs was?
They took it down cause to many people posted it
NDA means shit anyway, countless leaked on bilibili dated back 3 months ago
so it was secret and then people started posting?
Sort of
might as well cancel nda at this point, most ppl already know what to expect
I dont know why you cant spell?
Like an awful launch 
when labs started?
English probably isn't his first language
ingles plz
weil ich halb deutsch und englisch bin
I dunno ive known people that all they speak is english and trying to read something they wrote is like, whoa
das kanye west newest music language heil
bet you cant do thaht
That*
thy
is there a challenger 2 in bf6?
when did labs started?
Brits aren't real
i'd presume, because they took the time to add the L85A3
because it'd be a bit weird driving around in a Abrams when you're playing as the Royal Army
my spelling isnt perfekt
havent touch cod since bo1
Nah it makes sense, since spare parts don't exist for challys
because theres a supposed leopard 2 in the game and theres a swedish tank
bf6 400gb confirmed
if its 400gb i am ending myself
I seen that, along with the elephant with the ride on basket on top
ive played bf bywb
the game looks cool and all but truth be told. The destruction is not that impressive
Same, gonna press redeploy irl
helldivers 2 is 120gb because all the guns and their attachments have a number of 8k wear patterns textures on them that is applied upon the entity spawning
the amount of destructible buildings
yeah i saw a clip where a bradley shot a bradley at a apartment wall a few times so a huge basically panel of bricks got destroyed because of like 5 or 6 bradley shots
looking forward
i doubt bf6 will be 400gb mate but its good to dream big yk
I'm watching a gameplay and there is this medium size wall that doesnt seem to be destructible
Will probably be 140gb or so
You right, it's going to be 249.99
to be fair thats all pre alpha gameplay theres no leaked gameplay of the alpha
Ive just seen a gameplay with some nasty sniper headshots. very satisfying
yeah probably around that mark maybe or 120gb
i am buying
2042 was almost 100gb
i just want them to tone down the movement speed have it more like bf3 or bf4
dude used the drone to spot 2 enemies and then killed both in the sequence
yeah some 5 stories tall building have 3rd to 5th floor wall destructible but not the first and second floor cuz they didnt want ppl to go in, weird
but i like that they've added the bf5 kinda of movement i absolutely love it with the crouch running and semi diving
i am buying max
the crouch running is my favourite feature of the bf5 movement, i also like that you can drag people as a medic in bf6 i have high hopes for the game
I didn't like 2042 defib
yeah, kinda sucka
me either
sucks*
i kinda hope they make it so squad mates can drag eachother into cover when downed
its sucks and kinda sucka too
already seens ppl dragging each other in the leak
Does anyone know if hardcore modes are coming back for BF6?
you can do it as a medic but i'm saying even if you're assault you can drag ingame squad members and revive them
would u want it to be only squad mates or just ur team in general
Nah
Definitely yes as the game is going back to BF immersive roots
oh ok.
Hereās to hoping there will be ships available at some point in battlefield 6 miss that from bf1 and 3 or 4 I think it was
It will be realistically will be a 6/10 or 7/10 game
It isn't even out yet but ok buddy
2042 had one ?/10 review lol
team in general would be good but maybe defeating that extra thing the medics have but having it for just squad mates even if you're recon or assault would be mint
Omg please let it be true for hardcore modes to come back. So many of my friends wonāt buy unless it comes back.
Iāve played it
If not Iām not buying the game⦠need a hardcore mode on release, scoreboard on release, and server browser! Have that ready at release and it will be a great game!!!
It'll come back don't worry
i think so too don't want to give it out to everybody certain things need to be class locked
Scoreboard is already there as it was in the pre-alpha
Absolutely
So the pre alpha you played was a updated 2026 game? Interesting
Thatās one out of the 3 thoā¦
Rent a server would also be awesome
yeah battlefield runs off of teamwork and class differences having a support laying down gunfire with an LMG while a medic heals and revives and the assaults blow stuff up and shoot with AR's
Iāve participated in the alpha test as well
doesnt mattewr we are a team
Hardcore is most definitely coming back and even though I can't really say anything about server browser for sure I'd say it's going to come back as it was one of BF2042 main complaints when it came out
Once again... Alpha
What ships realistically if we got them in bf6 would be possible with the rough time the games based on?
You an E.A employee?
Isnāt this game launching in October?
the thing i hope for alot aswell is more british stuff they're puting in the time to add a L85A3 a fairly new british firearm and they're adding aircraft never seen before in battlefield along with ground vehicles
we are going to beat cod
as i said i pray for a challenger 2 or 3 or just british vehicles and aircraft
So nato will be? i know france is not with nato
Nah just a random cracjhead who played pre-alpha
Allegedly, that has been since removed.
Bro shut up... š
Crap I'm 200% getting muted again
So theyāre rushing this game out again? Good to know
Good lord I cant wait for this game!
It has been removed... what are you on
it was accidentally put up on a thing on the EA website but they removed it quick but i hope for a 2025 release or a early 2026 release
dice to mute gooner hes a good guy he saves my cat last week
Is Battlefield 6 playtest still available?
how old are you?
Open Beta will be out soon after the multiplayer reveal
Bruh i got invited to playtest but hadn't noticed it, the access expired...
How low is your IQ? š©
with the way you're acting like a 12 year old i dont believe thats you in your profile
Thanks
They invited me to playtest in a city about a hour or two away but couldn't go sad man
you're honestly bickering like a wee wane mateš
you havent been in here to see what this guy has been posting
oh ok if its bad then my fault ig
Wouldve been a huge opportunity, to meet the team and play LAN
i know dude i wish i woulda just moved my work schedule around i played myself
EA/DICE could honestly win a lot of PR/player favor if this game has stuff like offline bot play, ETC
most games require online for unknown reasons
i would think high
Bot play is ehhh
It probably won't have offline mode apart from campaign
Movement feels like COD in my opinion⦠its very rough and not so smooth like in BFV.
theres gonna be a campaign and supposedly its gonna be slightly based off of the movie Civil War i hope it still stays in the military aspect of things and its not some looney going rogue or something stupid like cods been doing
the amount of bots in 2042 was crazy
Just because itās been āremovedā doesnāt make it not true
Well plans change as they deem fit to release.
Thats why they have alpha tests.
You're stating they're rushing this game which you got no proofs of
Its gonna launch buggy
i personally liked BFV movement alot atleast with the crouch running and the short diving it felt immersive at times but the sliding i dont like and i hope they lower the movement speed in bf6 fells too fast
And just because you played the Alpha does not mean that is the current state the game is in
This persons hates happiness. Just ignore them for your own sanity.
I think every Bf game launches a bit fuckey
Breaking news : most games nowadays release buggy
most games are buggy on launch you cant help it but i hope its not completely buggy
im preordering
Well then there will be bugs. The alpha versions you played were from early 2025.
Have you not read the BF6 development article?
Yeah thanks tbh I don't need that for my own mental health rn 
thats crazy i didnt know the alpha versions people have been playing are still that early on imagine how far the games moved on now
Wow some random article made by some random discord mod rocking for BO7 wow I missed so much bro

I guarantee if we re did the launch for BF BC today eveyone would cry about how buggy it was. Or Black Ops 1. Both had huge issues but no one cared. Fans and playerbases want to much all the time now
if we want a new game we have to something about it
No matter how buggy BF6 is at launch they really got something to offer compared to BO7 so I'm with them 200%
i dont care if its buggy on launch its impossible to stop on launch day and the servers will be hellish for the first few days because of all the player getting on but it'll calm itself and get better
Well two different genres yeah? If they try to one up eachother both games lose what made them different.
Guys, I'm so excited to pre-order the game! I hope it comes with a booklet
Yes in terms of genres no in terms of target audience imo
Yes it comes with a booklet and emotional trauma
Those 2 franchises are basically targeting the almost same audience
cod already killed itself just look steam reviews on cod mw3 and bo6
Worth
True but its never been an issue until COD started to suck
Pre order the $100 edition
100%
cod comes with trauuuuuma
BO7 will be a sh*t show of a game bo6 in my opinion was trash and MW3 [the new one] but i thought the remake of MW2 was actually pretty good not as good as MW2019
the booklet is actually to teach u to deal with the trauma aswell
Yeah I agree if we take BF1 for example it released at the same time as IW which was crap and a lot of COD players actually came to BF and enjoyed it I feel like same thing could happen now
I hope in the campaign near the end, the good guys are planning, surrounding the table and the leader goes like "We're fighting battlefields here, 6 of em".
I wont be pre ordering it thats for sure
I hope it at least comes with some stickers
only cod i liked past years was MW2019
cod is no longer cod and i dont plan on playing it ever again because of the recent state of the games i've always prefered battlefield over it anyways
im fully in with bf6
its gotta come with the stickers give me some value
Yeah I'd also like a moment where the farmers would be cropping their fields and would battle over it idk why though
I hope thereās no operators, just do BFVās type of soldiers.
We all saw how that Battfield Killer F2P game went lol
who up battling their field until they 6
Battlefield : farmers conflict
What game u referring to?
There won't be, you can tell through the trailer and the pre alpha videos
Ifykyk
Everyone's battling their field until John Battlefield comes out
i don't š¦
The blocky game?
cant wait to guided bomb strike some farmers in battlefield 6 with a F16
God no that game is so much fun lol
u seem to have fun with me
I'm committing war crimes in BF6 Lets go!
Don't want to sound arrogant or anything bro but I think it's called war crimes I might be wrong though
First of all you canāt say that for sure, second of all the trailer was for campaign only, third of all we havenāt seen the rest of the game to know exactly how it works.
Nahhh... wrong place wrong time
its not a war crime if no one saw it!
Or the chaos the f22 might bring
Alright Australia
game looks pretty good have been missing battlefield had a lot of fun in 4 and 1
*canada
Yeah that farmer was probably providing the enemy with some crusty intels about rabbits eating his carot cultures or some shit
Cant feed troops if you have no food left
That's a logic I can't beat I'm defeated
im a battlefield from the start mate ill will trotzdem hold your back
The farmers were the enemy the whole time wow
First of all, yes I can dawg. Not to mention the amount of hate dice received for operators. They aren't going to make that mistake again. And again, look at the pre alpha videos, you play four roles, of unnamed soldiers.
No embeds sigh
So is battlefield 6 online only and can the campaign be played offline.
them farmers were feeding Pax Armata! and giving them intel!!!! we MUST storm them with abrams and blow up their village with F16's and F22's
They touched our boats...
Our Damn boats!
@vagrant thicket the only good farmer is a dead farmer lol.
amen
Yeah, look at their misery of a message history as a source.
Im so lost what youre on about lol
So will the campaign of battlefield 6 be playable offline?
Thinking about it I imagine if we get boats in bf6 itāll have weaponry like tomahawks and other similar things or the odd autocannon 127? I canāt remember the usual calibre of modern ships main guns
seems like yeeah
When was the last time any campain was able to be played offline?
Gunther is just a doomsayer. All they do is hate everything
Yeah dude probably freshly came out from COD server and is afraid his absolute mess of a game would be endangered by solid competition 
Real
Dude called gunther but I'm positive he's rage baiting
me so hyped for bf6
There is his answer then lol
you guys heard about the totally undercover Pax Armata spies pretending to be village folk and farmers? i say we level the entire place in a mile wide area
Im being optimistic because of BFV and 2042
can't take any chances
We are starting some lore here
2042 just didnāt have a campaign
WHAT IS THIS STUFF ABOUT FARMERS
Me too
Thats just the lorax
Hes a enemy too
the farmers are the true enemy of BF6, pax armata are just a distraction from the real threat!
Or ignorant considering your saying things about the game that aren't even true
Everyone is enemy
Kill everything not Nato
Farming Simulator 2027 : The Pax Farm
So France
@vagrant thicket yep the real enemy is John Travolta
Indeed
Rly hoping the class locked aspects stays honestly nice little unique aspect to battlefield
Yo I'm French bro
the real enemies are the ones we made along the way
U got a cool police force
I absolute despise COD, Activision only now cares about cosmetics then making their game actually better.
And Iām British itās just us being our usual selfās
Yk what... I hear the farmers might have oil
They have to make there money back somehow
Yeah we sure do bro 
Oil em up
Nuclear farming farmers?
That's fair then lol
Thats what the intel states
Better than the uk :(
full scale raid with british commando's at night then apache gunships level the place.. they have weapons of mass destruction!!!!!!
woah there war crimes... I agree
Napalm time
Short campaign...
Flamethrowers and apaches or lynxās too
germany is not your enemy
And itās ruining the franchise
Ours is highly untrained though average French cop can't secure a takedown which is beyond my comprehension but whatever š¬
LOBOTOMIES FOR ALL
i live there
Not really it has near to no affect on the game people just like being whiny
What factions do you guys think are included.
Rn we know we have Pax Armarfa, US and UK. Surely there would be one more force on amartas side
@timber glen napalm doesn't do anything unleash the t virus
isnt it weird how all of our body camera's and every cemera in a mile radius turned off when we DID NOT drop cluster's and napalm on them pax farmers guys?
I mean it's the same over here
Hell we had cosmetics back in cod ghost ect
Queue battlefield music
Weirdest thing...
I cannot wait to play The Open Beta
I dont like any type of cosmetic that doesnt fit the games theme.... Thoughts?
That's crazy tbh I hope BF6 NY police forces are better 
Moldova
south africa has a mention on the pax side i think or one of the maps is there but i know theres actually a south african vehicle in the game
Oh interesting
@fleet belfry yep it's great with chocolate ice cream
Ur telling me u don't want to shoot a teletubbies ?