community-update-classes

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My message

[shy slate]

But I gueas youll turn around and blame others for your actions.

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What are you talking about ?

Troll

[quaint dune]

ok i stopped reading chat after i put my message before this one and joined like 2 scrolls down

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Don’t act like one then , sick of it

How much are they paying you to act a twat BSOD?

[quaint dune]

who?

ok

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Tell by that face of yours you clearly one , so how much

[shy slate]

What has you so angry and riled up man. JESUS

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Your bs assumptions , give but can’t handle the reaction

[shy slate]

Nothing anyone said here should have you so angry or annoyed.

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Typical troll

Feel good now ?

Got my reaction ? Ya little vampire

How does my negative energy taste ? Good , sustaining you eh hmmmmm

[shy slate]

I dont even know you, have never talked to you before. Feel good about what? All I said was teamwork is not as common as you aluded to. It isnt in my experience.

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Yum yum

[shy slate]

this is some weird ass behavior

[quaint dune]

ngl this is the most normal statement ive ever read

while team play does exist its not everywhere

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Taking to me like I was making things up out of thin air

Go play this or that you said. Well the fact I had that made me say the thing ?

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Mate I never said it was as consistent as liked , I simply said you’ll get a better experience of it there than you will 2042 and for certain reason. Locked weapons being one

[shy slate]

It absolutely isnt, not in pub games. In some community games sure, but my general experience in pub games is next to no teamplay, or incidental teamplay due to game design (Support drops ammo for themselves > other can also collect it)

[quaint dune]

thats fine, i agree with you

out of all the battlefields ive played

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Well then don’t play pub games lol

[quaint dune]

BFV has got a more team play loop

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That’s the only point I was making

[shy slate]

No it wasnt

You started off not mentioning anything related to the fact that you only play in a server with regulars.

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Sure it isn’t consistent , but where the hell is , HLL has some of the worst inconstancies

[quaint dune]

HLL?

hell let loose?

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Don’t make me post the original post again.

[quaint dune]

aight cheers bsod

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It simply boils down to what makes for better team work , sure you ain’t going to rely on everyone , that’s not reality , I know that , but by n large as a whole over 2042 it generally better.

For certain reason

[shy slate]

Your OG statements said:

In 2042 you don’t even realise you’re in a squad lmao , everyone is running around doing their own thing with their me me me choose any gun loadout playstyles not giving two sets of crap about you , these players don’t come from the realm of old Bf and neither does the current management.

This is my experience in pub games on every BF ive ever played.

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No my first reply of today

[shy slate]

Its the point which we started talking, so its all thats pertinent to me

[quaint dune]

this is true about pub games tbf

it makes me miss the old ps4 competitive lobbies on BFV

those were fun asf

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Ok well , honestly ? Usually one chooses a server , likes who plays and you set it as a favourite, that’s all I know

That’s what most people should be doing ?

[quaint dune]

only issue with this, is sometimes i favourite a server then when i go to play it the next day, its completely dead

so people tend to go to a diff server

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Well that’s due to the age of the game now right ?

[quaint dune]

correct

and the decrease in popularity for said game

like its not a big issue really but just a pain to deal with

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Look the main point I was making is that this new thing of any gun just encourages selfish playstyles and forgets they in a squad , I know what your saying in the argument , but man by and large it’s better than 2042 , you surly must agree Bsod

[quaint dune]

or when you play a certain server then it just completely empties after 1 round and youre sat waiting for like an hour or more with 14 players per team

[quaint dune]

this i do agree with

like i personally feel that SOME weapons just be class locked

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don’t want to be right or wrong just going by own experience is all

[quaint dune]

like the main guns of said class so

snipers for recon or LMGs for support

those i think should be class locked

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Structure , direction , no overwhelming time wasting , focus , foundation…….

[shy slate]

I play in community/clan games on 2042, and the experience is dramatically different to pubs. Like CLAW, WaU, VLCK clan matches.

But when your point essentially is:

"2042 sucks and teamplay is bad because of unlocked weapons" but your only experience in 2042 is pub games...then of course im going to judge pub games in 2042, to pub games in past games.

Pub games in all BF games are identical in form to what I see in 2042. the only exception is there is a bit more weapon variety in 2042.

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That’s how it was tied in to team play also

[quaint dune]

i never played community games in 2042

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Oh your a 2042 fan , turned you to the dark side Luke

[shy slate]

I have played 1500+ hours in every BF Game going back to BF2

[quaint dune]

i mean saying he plays community games on 2042 doesnt mean hes a 2042 fan necessarily

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Well then that makes sense as to why you defended it , fair play

[graceful galleon]

I still think not the anygun is the problem, but in 2042 the lack of reward if you were playin AS a squad or team. Soflam was not rewarding. Repairing vehicles was not rewarding. They tried to fix it, but soflam was still a bad experience. By reward I meant experience, progress. Edit: wording.

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I can only do 20 mins of 2042 per month

[shy slate]

I play 2042 for the last year or so only on Fridays or maybe Saturdays. Fridays for FNB as we all join chat here on this server and catch up, then the CLAW event on the same night. Then sometimes Saturday for Valkyria or WaU clans servers. But 9/10 it sonly Fridays

Can you point me to where I defended 2042 also?

I didnt even mention 2042 until a minute ago

this whole time ive been speaking of BF as a whole. Across BF 2, 3, 4, 1 and V (I didnt play 2142)

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However start me a game of V and I’m hooked for a couple of months. Gotta be fresh enough though first.

Not doubting you can’t have squad experience in it , esp if in a clan - but universally everyone mostly isn’t and my experience of it is for a start is unrealistic (borris vs borris) and disjointed , chaotic

I am a V fan boy tho , one of my favourites , not everyone will agree but I’ve have the most memorable moments in it , more so than 1

As for defending yeah fair enough , you was making a case that it’s the same everywhere so you kind of passively defended it , what you said tho just isn’t true , you can’t use crappy servers with noobs as the argument (esp when 2042 doesn’t even allow you that choice officially) , so just depends on the server , how many new players are in it etc , but by n large the sense of squad play is there over it and when it gels it truly gels above all else , why , due to all the things necessary making it gel

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One of the problems , didn’t say theee problem

The problem is selfish players. Sure in any game , but makes it worse when you take away core basic structure of things assigned to certain classes. Recipes for free for all chaotic systems

The other thing that provided a decent amount of glue was the fact you could still carry on playing with the same squad next round , if you all worked well and had a decent game , you can just carry on playing with em and against the same side , but now you have to adapt all over again with a Dice roll 🎲

Yeah they created portal , but persistent servers on the official end still provides the glue

[graceful galleon]

I get you.
I felt like with the messed systems at the start, veterans left and when they made the band aid the rest of the players didn't know how to Battlefield. 3 medics for 60 player teams and the usual... (still 2042).
To be frank I welcomed the fact we can use all guns with all classes, but I can live with and have no problem with class restricted guns.
For sum in my head: Good reward system which encourages squad play; Squads can stick together along multiple battles; Well defined roles/classes;
These are a good essentials for better squad experience. A properly working squad lead would be a nice touch too.

[dusk ether]

They can either make selfish actions benefit the team naturally or add more points, that would be a good foundation

Nobody calls engineers selfish cause them seeking tanks to blow up helps everyone else, teamplay in bf as a whole mostly follows that same idea - people trying to keep themselves alive which happens to help someone else

Offer points to get someone recognising those moments more, boom

Ngl though I find it ironic when people say ‘there’s no teamplay’ or ‘teamplay isn’t strong’ then when they are faced with a clan actually using proper coordination and teamplay it’s bad

I know it isn’t a pleasant experience for most but just feels a bit backwards looking at it

[obsidian scroll]

I see a lot of community chatter and still no dev chatter 👀

[dusk ether]

Devs have been quiet for a long while

Which is understandable

[obsidian scroll]

2042 vibes

[dusk ether]

Total needs to say one thing and would get bombarded with DMs. Wouldn’t want to wish the same upon someone just minding their own business

[shy slate]

DEVs have a complete other server for talking with those they need to talk to. All talking here will do is get them 200 pings telling them they are wrong...regardless of what direction they take

[dusk ether]

Forgot about that other server, fair point

[shy slate]

Its also ironic to claim this is anything like 2042. When we learned nothing about that game until beta. We've gotten 4 community feedback loops/articles on whats happening with this next game so far, and we dont even know what its called yet.

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We did have some devs around when they were reworking 2042

[raven galleon]

Gon b called Battlefield 2021

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But it doesn't really make sense for them to be here right now per what BSoD says

[shy slate]

"We've made the decision to locked weapons to classes"

REEE, my freedom...im not buying

"We've decided to keep unlocked weapons"

REEE, my class identity...no snipers with med and ammo boxes!!! Im not buying!!!!

Basically how any interaction would go (*dramatized)

[raven galleon]

No custom perks??? Ain't buying ts

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Where is that from?

[shy slate]

My brain

[quaint dune]

xdd

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Ah ok, I thought they told something new xD

[shy slate]

Its an example of how people here will react and over react to anything a dev would say, should they be active here right now.

[graceful galleon]

Exactly. Which is kinda sad, but it is the reality.

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Movement lover - But nothing felt like it should have in 2042 and that’s exactly the point , no one felt like they were AT or support or this or that , then there was the thing about any weapons , everyone moaned about that ! Everyone ! Most people moaned about it , so why not listen now

Was just a circus and don’t want that spilling into this game. That simple mate

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Bro don’t even talk about that game , it does not reflect battlefield not yesterday not today not tomorrow, stop using it as the example .

[shy slate]

But...its the game they referenced...vibes wise

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Basically mate what do you want for it

Coz I’m not sure and don’t want to assume stuff.

[shy slate]

Dude are you actually OK

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Cool mate just hot here , answer the question tho

[quaint dune]

2042 SHOULD be the example

the example of what NOT to do

its the most recent game

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BSOD loves it though and wants its stuff brought into 6

[quaint dune]

its only natural to use the most recently released game as the benchmark for the new one

[shy slate]

Them: 2042 vibes

Me: Its nothing like 2042 > states reason why

You: Dont talk about that game

Me: ?????

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Not natural when everyone complained - it actually becomes arrogant and selfish

What do you want for the new instalment

[quaint dune]

me personally?

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I know what you want , BSOD

[vagrant pebble]

Custom loadouts, killstreaks, overkill perk

Remove classes, let us make our own loadouts

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Haha good one

[quaint dune]

right just leave xD

go play cod if you want that

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He’s kidding

[quaint dune]

id hope so

[vagrant pebble]

I want to use RPG and a wingsuit at the same time

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I want to know what BSOD wants for 6

And why

[shy slate]

I want good maps in decent quantities (Both at launch and post release), lots of weapons, decent combined arms...and better support for the community to exist/grow

[quaint dune]

based

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We agree on one thing then.
And the old class system ? Can’t say I care anymore since it’s clear that’s what they want to do

And ain’t going to make a difference how much people say , since actually Theres decades worth of it if Google it

[shy slate]

I dont really care/mind what they do with classes when it comes to weapons. Ive played everything from BF2 to 2042...and ive always managed just fine.

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Don’t go off and do your own thing then , work as a squad and team. Coz that’s how I feel about those wanting any weapon for anything, players that don’t really care for squad play.

[raven galleon]

Oh ye we getting firestorm 2.0 right?

[mild rock]

Personally I'll just end up maining assault and farming brainlets.

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They just wana be number one Beamer

[mild rock]

Err the battle royale or the map?

[quaint dune]

to the gulag with you

[raven galleon]

:3

[quaint dune]

the map would be sick

BRs can get in the bin

[raven galleon]

Nannananana

Make it BR, make it free and just run on battle passes

Simple as

[quaint dune]

you sound like a warzone apologist

[raven galleon]

[quaint dune]

shhh

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Memba 🍇 how things use to be Blet

[raven galleon]

First warzone was GOOD

For 2 months

[quaint dune]

BRs are dead and need to be left behind

if the new battlefield was to add anything itd be some sort of extraction mode

since thats the current meta/trend

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Fine by me

[quaint dune]

but i dont want that

cos thats not what battlefield is for

[vagrant pebble]

Manifactured trend

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Looking forward to ARC

[quaint dune]

if i want extraction shooters id go play tarkov or delta force

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Least there that if this flops

[raven galleon]

Search and destroy in BF6? yayy

[quaint dune]

i play battlefield for battlefield

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As an extra mode along side , something different , why not

[quaint dune]

technically already exists, rush

[quaint dune]

i mean

[raven galleon]

8v8

[quaint dune]

theres campaign and multiplayer

[raven galleon]

No such rush

[quaint dune]

multiplayer will have multiple modes

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They do what they want so long as it plays like Bf 😁

[quaint dune]

why split the player base more?

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Fair play

[quaint dune]

thats all an extra mode like that will do

is split the playerbase

which just wont help the game at all

it might draw in the audiences from those genres (BR enjoyers or Extraction enjoyers) but they wont stick around for Battlefield

theyll exclusively play those extra modes

and eventually the game will get to a point where every balancing change or meta swap will be for those extra modes

like it was for cod with warzone

everything became balanced around warzone and it made it unplayable. i have no doubt the same would happen to battlefield

[mighty zealot]

I do love love warzone

[quaint dune]

no

bad

let BRs die

the genre is massively over bloated

[raven galleon]

Separate balance for MP and Warzone

[vagrant pebble]

That would explain awful balancing in BF Labs 😂

[quaint dune]

this is the stupidist idea ive ever heard and what makes it worse is i can see something like this being the case

[raven galleon]

No, I'm saying how it was

Baaaack then

[quaint dune]

yh at first

but look what it became

[raven galleon]

Yh idc after 2019

[quaint dune]

every balance change with cod NOW is for warzone players

[raven galleon]

Mo moneh

[quaint dune]

battlefield would suffer the same fate

so keep it just campaign and multiplayer

[raven galleon]

Not like battlefield ain't trynna be squeezed

[dull pier]

What is this place

What do I do here, is this feedback?

Im assuming its revolving around classes

[raven galleon]

It's just gen chat with extra circlejerk

[dull pier]

Well imma write a slightly lengthy post but nothing like too insane

I started with battlefield 1 after playing cod for so long around 2016. I honestly really enjoyed how classes felt like how they were called. Assault felt like a frontal attack unit equipped with SMGS and shotguns, scout felt like nimble marksmen with accurate rifles, etc

I do think class dedicated weapons is a part of battlefield. Its not a big part and its not like the first thing that comes to mind however I do generally tie it to battlefield.

I have played 2042.. and I really didn't like how the class system update was, it felt really strange to have classes but then have them not have weapon locks, it essentially felt like a traditional fps game with perks locked behind 4 options, Its didn't ever really feel the same to me, seeing scouts and medics with M249s and SVH's was weird, it also fucked with me in the sense that I saw a medic and assumed they just had an smg, to then get hit by 300. Win from a sniper.

With the new weapon customisation I feel like unlocked class weapons will be alot more noticeable, "unbalanced" in a sense and untraditional.

If you really want to try this make it a seperate form of gamemode, or server setting bare minimum.

Also I can't speak on how I feel about a BR game most of them feel like slop but i care about the actual game itself more than a BR.

Still ended up being long so tldr

I dont really like the idea of unlocked classes but if you are going to do it make it a optional thing in the server browser where there's separate gamemodes/settings so you can have one or the other.

[quaint dune]

the only issue with having it be an optional setting would mean having the system in place for it to actually work. and at that point whats the point of having either one? mays well just choose one and stick to it and make it as good as it can be.

and by having the system in place, i mean having the system for locked weapons by classes

[dull pier]

That's what I mean by if like if they REALLY want to

[quaint dune]

thats fair

though i think theyd just stick to 1 option and keep it that way since having both makes no sense really

[dull pier]

I do not like the idea of it and i think it also raises balancing issues and like other people have said it kind of gives variety in gameplay

Limit isn't always bad

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Memba 🍇 I memba and it was great

I agree with Krenzi

[dull pier]

It should just be the one choice they make tbh, but if the game locks it and someone makes a custom server u bet ur ass im playing custom

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Those that don’t agree just like the idea of chaos

And selfish egotistical behaviour

[quaint dune]

i mean even if there are custom servers, it wont change how the actual class/weapon system works

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Rather than working as a solid squad

[quaint dune]

they wouldnt add that to the game

[dull pier]

Yeah.

[quaint dune]

so even on custom servers youll still have the exact same system in multiplayer

[raven galleon]

I genuinely don't care what the game is gonna end up with, yoink ea play and dabble with it for a bit and that's it

[dull pier]

If you can like ban weapons i dont think it'd be super hard to make a system where you can lock them to classes in the server creation screen but idk

Im saying that as a dumb non developer so idk how hard that rlly would be

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If you don’t care then you haven’t really experienced its previous greatness to be able to care and this is actually the insult with the current management, them listening to people like yourself rather than those that really know

[quaint dune]

that all depends on what the custom server options are

that might not be an option lmfao

[dull pier]

Yeah

I remember i was talking about how im like genuinely just done with modern cod and are gonna just play the demos/stories on gamepass

And my friend just said that to me

[mild rock]

Honestly if there are locked weapons I'm just gonna get a tally mark and see how many bitch about assault having the good weapons.

The system goes either way.

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People just get on with it though like they did previously

[shy slate]

Or how many people aren't playing x class when the need help

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I chop and change when it’s needed how it’s always been if the situation requires it

[dull pier]

I dont think either system will increase class diversity tbh

[mild rock]

I'll keep on saying it, It'll just funnel people to assault.

[dull pier]

People will use the class with the best and simplest advantages

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Nope , never really experienced that with v or 1 waygy

[shy slate]

Because as you already admitted, you dont play pub servers, you only play with regulars on one server.

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Mate I’ve been playing it since release , now doesn’t really count since it’s not as popular. If some servers are wack you choose one that isn’t , stop using that as your argument , it’s weak

[shy slate]

I see the opposite, so agree to disagree

[dull pier]

Australians suffer with any game

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I have a bag full of good memories working solidly as a squad with v , it’s also cool how the rotations work where by you still playing with that same squad. When it works it works well , when it doesn’t sure , but that’s the same anywhere , 2042 is a joke that’s the end of it

[shy slate]

More people here will agree with me over you. People don't use teamplay, or play locked in together as a squad in pub matches.

[dull pier]

I personally have experienced both

[raven galleon]

Why isn't there sims and battlefield collab sob

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Then don’t play PUB matches !

[dull pier]

I have had rlly good squads and people doing their own thing

[mighty zealot]

Were these memories rose tinted perhaps?

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Yeah that’s the nature of it. But 2042 is literally something else !

[shy slate]

Same, but the vast majority of my games has players just doing random shit they feel like doing.

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No man my own memories ! Awesome squad moments than I have over 2042

[shy slate]

What a solution, just don't play public servers. Genius

[quaint dune]

bro got the bad spawn

[mighty zealot]

Speaking from personal experience, if I wasn’t playing with friends, my likelihood to “do random shit” went up drastically

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I didn’t know what pub meant , thought It was like casual down the pub with a beer play style no one really caring

[mild rock]

Battlefield players have been pretty like this for the past... 11 years playing the franchise.

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I’m on Xbox so don’t know the state of pc servers

[raven galleon]

Ever heard of an India spawn???

[quaint dune]

no and i dont want to nor do i care xD

[dull pier]

Australia is neat besides two things heat, and gaming

Online gaming is hard here

[mighty zealot]

It means pubg duh /s

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Either way it still stands find a server where by people care and they ain’t new

[quaint dune]

and bugs

every insect wants to eat you

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Ok thanks cobra I think I I know now ,

[raven galleon]

20 something percent to spawn there, god bless

[gentle star]

Not even a viable "solution"

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The beetle shown in the profile pic eats off of dead matter , it’s one of natures allies , doesn’t work for the evil god of chaos

[mighty zealot]

Then you get the best part, getting kicked out of servers by admin and then complaining about it online

[dull pier]

I generally do the same, however I usually sick with my squad when I spawn on them

[mighty zealot]

What joy

[quaint dune]

i mean if youre getting booted from a custom server you clearly did smth to deserve it

so skill issue

[tropic badge]

And the gods of chaos has taken over this game with its little minions hoping for more self centered style of plays

[mighty zealot]

I try to the same but then I’ll get into a random gunfight, they either die or leave me and so I just go fuck it, random shit time

[mild rock]

I don't expect much out of my teammates so I kinda just keep to my self.

[mighty zealot]

Yea

[mild rock]

So I don't notice the idiots.

[mighty zealot]

They’re a little better if you spawn into vehicle

[mild rock]

But when I do and they're in my squads yeahhhh they're just spawn points.

[mighty zealot]

But again, hit or miss

[tropic badge]

Yes but when it works and everyone is on point it’s awesome , 2042 has always been empty of that , I don’t even care who’s in my squad with that game

[quaint dune]

lmfao, theyre just mobile respawn beacons aye

[mild rock]

That's battlefield as a whole. "when it works it's awesome"

This isn't a specific 2042 issue this is a community wide issue.

[raven galleon]

It's not even an issue tf

[mild rock]

I score high and work with my squad, Well, The ones who actually run with me. Otherwise you know lol

[raven galleon]

Find friends

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Mate stop…… 2042 is totally devoid of squad play end of story , the others have more going for it in terms of that , stop being annoying since you know it’s true

[mighty zealot]

In this economy?!

[mild rock]

yeahhh totally

[gentle star]

No different from previous games

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Yeah ok mate , troll more

[mild rock]

2730 hours of playtime on bf5 says otherwise.

[quaint dune]

ngl theres no trolling here XD

[mild rock]

I've seen this behaviour all over.

It is nothing new.

[mighty zealot]

What would you define as “squad play”? Can you give examples?

[tropic badge]

Everyone sticking together for one

I’m usually recon with pathfinder , so they thank the gods I exist when play that and manage to get other end of the map

Medics actually do their job

[dull pier]

Tbh i can't even tell who's who in 2042 cuz everyone looked the same lmao

[quaint dune]

this tbh

[mild rock]

Thousands of hours on this franchise and medics are still the same dumbass as ever.

[quaint dune]

thats why i dont like the skins

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Weapons locked to class everyone is structured and solid with direction instead of messing around trying to choose a weapon “to fit their selfish style of play” going off doing there own thing beaming everyone

[quaint dune]

medics that actually rez and play the way they should are a blessing lmfao

theyre so rare

[tropic badge]

Now I know you’re full of lies

[quaint dune]

ngl how is he full of lies with that statement

[dull pier]

homies will literally hear some like 17 year old underage soldier crying for their mother and that they dont want to die and will literally not do anything lmao

[quaint dune]

that is literally how 95% of the battlefield playerbase is

[tropic badge]

Maybe it’s your karma based on own poor timing and luck due to your own bad decisions.

[dull pier]

literally see the saving private ryan like, picking up their own arm and just walk past

[mild rock]

karma based on timing and bad decisions LOL

[quaint dune]

XD

[shy slate]

@mild rock dont even try to talk to this person. You just get called a liar, a clown, then they'll start calling you a troll. No opinion or viewpoint other than theirs can be true.

[mild rock]

Holy shit I'm so glad I don't think like this.

[quaint dune]

ok cyb youre now starting to waffle a bit

[mighty zealot]

Yeah that happens, when you play friends, not so much with randoms

[mild rock]

yeah I'm thinking this little rando lives in their own world.

[tropic badge]

I only called you the clown for defending 2042

[quaint dune]

this is still a large scale shooter

not a small 5v5 tactical fps

you will NOT find team play or squad play at the degree youre describing in this game

[tropic badge]

A clown because 2042 is a circus

And don’t want that spilling into 6

[mighty zealot]

People already choose a weapon “to fit their selfish style of play”

[mild rock]

:)

[quaint dune]

like if you want this type of team play go play squad

[mighty zealot]

Locking weapons doesn’t fix that

[quaint dune]

SHEEEEEESH

[dull pier]

u in asia servers?

[mild rock]

Could you guess my favourite weapon.

[dull pier]

wait ur xbox ok

[shy slate]

Clearly faked stats, you liar!!!!!

[quaint dune]

hmmm

lewis?

[mild rock]

FG42.

[dull pier]

i stfg ive seen someone on pc with a similar name

[quaint dune]

that was gonna be my 2nd guess

[mild rock]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Oh I'm on PC too

[quaint dune]

and 3rd woulda been mg

[mild rock]

I've probably shot you

[mighty zealot]

You can tell cause his best class is support, no one plays support!

[quaint dune]

xD

[dull pier]

u use planes?

[mild rock]

I don't fly a lot.

[tropic badge]

So it’s a competition now of egos ?

[mild rock]

Not in this game.

@quaint dune Lewith gun not even top 10.

[quaint dune]

oof

tbf lewis gun was fun in bf1

[mild rock]

But instead I have the cringe ass model 37 on.

[mighty zealot]

Always has been

[quaint dune]

didnt like it in bfv

[mild rock]

I just found it boring.

[quaint dune]

yhh

[gentle star]

You should share your stats too

[tropic badge]

Precisely my point of the type of player that wants unlocked weapons.

I just want structure.

[dull pier]

i dont use model 37 because i have slight honor

[mild rock]

You haven't made a point lol

[gentle star]

That's bf5 bucko

[quaint dune]

what????

[mild rock]

It was fun

[tropic badge]

Wasn’t talking to you

[quaint dune]

doesnt matter

its a public discussion

[tropic badge]

What you saying what for then

[quaint dune]

cos your statement makes no sense at all

[shy slate]

There is no point in talking to them.

Locked weapons = good
Unlocked weapons = bad

There is no Grey area

[mild rock]

I should get 50K for my SCAR.

[dull pier]

you know, i agree with locking weapons but like i dont think you are making great points no diss

[quaint dune]

youre saying "my point of the type of player that wants unlocked weapons"

like

whats that got to do with his stats lmfao

[tropic badge]

Egotism , “me me me beaming everyone I am great unlock everything I don’t care about squad play”

yes it does

[mild rock]

I'm just showing off my kills dude.

Why are you so triggered?

[shy slate]

They posted their bfv stats with LMGs tho. Wtf are you on about.

[tropic badge]

What has stats got to do with the topic of weapon unlocking

[gentle star]

[shy slate]

You're the one who jumped into this discussion and raised locked weapon?

[tropic badge]

But what’s it got to do with not wanting unlocked weapons for bf6

[dull pier]

guys i have peacekeeper therefore im obviously the alpha sigma turbo male here

[quaint dune]

im also sure it was to do with hours

xD

[dull pier]

therefore im right

[shy slate]

You called them a liar and not experienced, so they posted their stats in the game you spoke of. This is how stats started being posted.

[dull pier]

anyways, like i said, i want locked weapons, however, i dont think this is like a good argument man

[mild rock]

50.420.000 mil score exactly

hehehe

[quaint dune]

pause a sec

[tropic badge]

He said medics are the same dumbasses ever in bfv

[mild rock]

I tried a bit of the game on PC and was kinda done with the game lol

[dull pier]

im not like ancient john battlefield, ive played since 1 and i was 12-ish around then

[quaint dune]

how do you have that much score with tanks and planes

but 0 level and 0 kd

[mild rock]

I uh

[tropic badge]

I said now I know you’re full of lies

[mild rock]

Yeah truth be told they're weird.

[quaint dune]

XD

[mild rock]

I don't think they're actual classes in game.

[dull pier]

not the same as bf1s system so yeah they aren't classes

[quaint dune]

oh fair

its probably a tracker bug

[mild rock]

It's weird.

[gentle star]

tracker isn't always accurate

[mild rock]

I am not fine I am not fine

[quaint dune]

84 hours using that plane?

[mild rock]

It's nice going to my stats on bf5 around the dedication I once had.

Ya

[quaint dune]

are you good?

[mild rock]

Uhhh

I guess?

[quaint dune]

you need therapy?

[dull pier]

ok, so yeah i agree that locking weapons is what they should do, i dont see any inherant flaws in the current traditional system that unlocking weapons will solve

[mild rock]

I mean after dealing with months of drama

Being called a hacker

[dull pier]

durrrh u hacker

[mild rock]

Uhhhhh, Being targeted by genuine malicious people

[quaint dune]

dont even get me started on hackers

[mild rock]

it was a fun ride.

[quaint dune]

i had one yesterday running around

[mild rock]

Lemme find a clip

[quaint dune]

blud was straight up invisible

[dull pier]

i had a squad of hackers in bfv with cut weapons and aimbot

also had LMGS and snipers as medscs

[tropic badge]

Dude you said medics are dumbarses in bfv , that’s why I called you liar , coz they ain’t. Nothing about your experience etc. Just wasn’t an accurate statement to make , you didn’t need to prove anything

[dull pier]

LAD lmg and the fucking panzershiek

[mild rock]

No fg42 but the triple spray is always good

[tropic badge]

Man how’re you even able to post screen shots vids n stuff anyways , I don’t get that option

[mild rock]

@quaint dune gun gun gun

[quaint dune]

is that the stg?

[mild rock]

ya. The 44. It wasn't the best.

[quaint dune]

i cant tell

yh thought so

the clip was very pixelly for me for some reason

[mild rock]

Compression

Weird xbox shit

[quaint dune]

ew

it sucks for me cos i never rly played bfv on pc

so ive got nothing rly

[mild rock]

I have tonnes of old clips in the #battlefield-legacy-titles, Lots of reposts cause I like doing it a lot. Posting random shit.

[quaint dune]

im like lvl 7 or 8 on my pc account lmfao

[mild rock]

Yeah I wish I could go back but I'm kinda done with thegame.

2730 hours worth and seeing it all I'm done lol.

[dull pier]

i want russian dlc

[quaint dune]

thats fair

[shy slate]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE, corner jump peaking...this isnt COD!!!!

[dull pier]

waaaaaaaaaaaa

[quaint dune]

i probably had like 1.3k hours on ps4

[mild rock]

BATTLEFIELD HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS!

dnsjkadlsadsa

[tropic badge]

but not sure how you doing it here , the + is greyed out for me

[quaint dune]

hes mod

[dull pier]

ill agree when people dog on the MW19 sliding and stuff

[quaint dune]

or legacy mod

whatever

[mild rock]

Wait seriously

[dull pier]

that shit actually melts my brain

[tropic badge]

Oh that’s lame so couldn’t prove anything even if wanted to

[mild rock]

My first experience on battlefield was getting brutalised by assaults gazelle jumping and shit everywhere. Like the games have always had people go hard as fuck no matter what.

[quaint dune]

LMAO

thats the most real statement ive read today

[dull pier]

i didn't rlly experience this much in 1 but it happened

even in V

[quaint dune]

bf3 and 4 moments lmfao

[dull pier]

4 however

[mild rock]

I first played in... 2014.

[dull pier]

is where it was very noticable

[mild rock]

Coming from black ops 2.

[quaint dune]

bf3?

wrong reply ffs

[quaint dune]

meant this msg

[mild rock]

yea

[dull pier]

im aussie so i cant play bf3 if i wanted

its actually a ghost town

[tropic badge]

So what’s your solution then to this apparent issue your claiming

[quaint dune]

yhhh my first bf experience was bf3 too

[mild rock]

Got it for 5 dollars pre owned and I enjoyed the skill ceiling.

[raven galleon]

Waiter, waiter more shotguns!!

[dull pier]

i just want like bfv esc movement

[tropic badge]

2142 me , so not even a vet then really

[quaint dune]

thats what theyre doing

so enjoy

[dull pier]

yeah which is neat

[mild rock]

Vet means nothing.

[dull pier]

the sliding looks

abit extreme

[quaint dune]

you say vet like youve spent 50 years playing battlefield

you can be a battlefield vet if you started in bf3

lmfao

[tropic badge]

Well , longer the better eh , what she doesn’t say

[dull pier]

veteran is like, 10 years ish imo

[quaint dune]

not rly theres not much difference

[dull pier]

or like 10k hours

doenst matter that much

[shy slate]

Mine was back with Bad Company. But a friend of mine was part of an Irish clan for COD, MOH and BF, so I kinda tagged along in their games while I learned. Wasnt so much thrown in at the deep end.

[quaint dune]

you can have played since the first battlefield but have 0 knowledge of the game or how it works

[shy slate]

My first game was BC, but I went back and played a lot of older games after getting into the franchise.

[mild rock]

I think it's interesting the impression that can be left upon us.

[tropic badge]

Ok Wolfy , I’m sure passion is passion akd therefor knows what provides a great experience from the previous experience , although 2142 not the one to go by. For me 4 1 and V is

[dull pier]

i dont rlly play with randoms and interact anymore mostly due to shitty experiences

in vc*

ill use text but yeah

[dusk ether]

We going down memory lane rn?

[quaint dune]

yes, but just cos you started with one of the older games doesnt mean you have any more or any less knowledge of the franchise as someone that started with bf3

[dusk ether]

Reminiscing about first battlefield experiences

[dull pier]

seems like it so yeah

[quaint dune]

bf3 being your first bf would still make you a vet at this point

[mild rock]

Kinda?

I'm talking about how I turned out how I am today.

[tropic badge]

Yeah fair play

[dull pier]

i rememeber i got home after school, and having to deal with my family fighting eachother saw the bf1 demo

tried it on my ps4

[shy slate]

False, you called Way a liar. He posted his stats to show he is experience in the game you spoke of, and not a liar

[dull pier]

it was so fucking fun

[tropic badge]

Mate you just don’t listen do you

[quaint dune]

hes literally repeating what you said 😭

[dull pier]

i remember i would spawn a bomber, drop all the bombs then dive into people lol (i was 11-12 and dumb)

[dusk ether]

Oh so it’s philosophical self reflection hour

[quaint dune]

aye

[tropic badge]

He said medics were bs in bfv

[shy slate]

I do listen, I digest what others are saying...then I respond having thought about those things. I dont just react as fast as possible. As you seem to do.

[tropic badge]

So I said liar

[mild rock]

You got offended that I called medics stupid LMAO

Like dude

[tropic badge]

Then read !

[quaint dune]

which 95% of them are, like they are in EVERY battlefield

[tropic badge]

I didn’t get offended I’m saying why you got called a liar

[mild rock]

Read what? Players aren't gonna be 100% all the time doing their roles LMAO

[quaint dune]

just cos BFV has slightly better medic rez ratios doesnt mean the medics in the game are still bs and dumbasses

[tropic badge]

But wolfy are they in BFV you now changing your mind ? Bit different to what you was claiming

[mild rock]

I mained support hard and sometimes I have forgotten to give ammo to hungry hungry orphans.

[shy slate]

Medics in all BF games are pretty ass. The players playing the medics, not the class itself tho

[quaint dune]

i never changed my mind

[tropic badge]

We taking about v though

[mild rock]

Basically.

[quaint dune]

yes there IS more team play in BFV than in other battlefields. but that doesnt mean the MAJORITY of the medics are like that

majority of the medics in BFV are still dumbasses

[shy slate]

What a lovely person

[quaint dune]

but okay

[dusk ether]

I saw movement mentioned also

[quaint dune]

no you didnt

[tropic badge]

Right I never thought it wasn’t , saying compared to 2042 V is king

[dull pier]

that might've been me

[mild rock]

me wann bueno slide

[dull pier]

oh wait

[vagrant pebble]

BFV forced teamplay due to attrition, medic and support were essential, more people play as packs in BFV than any other BF

[dull pier]

nonono

[quaint dune]

WHO TF MENTIONED 2042?!?!?

[tropic badge]

Precisely

[quaint dune]

bro youre traumatised by 2042 i stg

nobody even mentioned 2042 and youre talking about it

[tropic badge]

Certainly am

[mild rock]

It lives rent free in his head

[quaint dune]

its actually in your head rent free

[tropic badge]

Scroll up and you will see

[vagrant pebble]

Yeah, no idea why people are arguing against it, not saying attrition was a good idea but scarcity of ammo and health forced people to play as a team

[mild rock]

same braincell

[quaint dune]

🤝

[tropic badge]

Exactly

[quaint dune]

and am i disputing that? no

[tropic badge]

Didn’t say you was

[quaint dune]

but youre acting like EVERYONE in BFV plays like a team lmfao

[tropic badge]

Am saying exactly to his statement

[quaint dune]

youre looking at like maybe 5% of the playerbase

[tropic badge]

Didn’t say everyone

Are you finished getting the wrong end of the stick

5% huh .

[shy slate]

You can pull the other end of it out of your ass

[quaint dune]

not exactly getting the wrong end of any stick tbh but sure if you wanna think like that go ahead cuh

[tropic badge]

You can by all means back track and you’ll see the situation

[quaint dune]

what situation brother tell me

[tropic badge]

Ignorance is bliss though. Don’t be a smart arse

[quaint dune]

LMAO

youre the one acting like a smart ass bro

xD

[tropic badge]

I’m saying you’ll see how it arrived at 2042

[shy slate]

Everyone having a nice talk about past games and their first experience with BF, and in comes Mr. Cyberpanda to shout and spoil everything again

[quaint dune]

innit man

[tropic badge]

That’s not exactly how it was going though , again scroll up

[quaint dune]

bro brings up his sleep paralysis demon in 2042

when nobody was even talking about 2042

YOU brought it up

it was never part of the on going talk

[tropic badge]

It’s you that was quick to turn wolfy yesterday you was like oh man the squad play the squad play oo man it was a joy to behold lol

[shy slate]

Wakes up screaming "DONT BE SAD". Drenched in sweat

[dull pier]

2042 bad, okay lets get past this now

[tropic badge]

Done

[quaint dune]

yes cos it was, i had 1 squad of medics. my squad

[tropic badge]

BSod disagrees though since he in a clan and got defence about it few hours back that’s why he’s still botchy with me

[quaint dune]

literally nobody else was playing medics

which literally strengths my point of its the minuet minority that actually play as a team

LMFAO

ok buddy

[mild rock]

This guy is mad.

[dusk ether]

The heck is happening

[shy slate]

The clans I play with play BF1 and V mostly. At least I know in stuck in your head tho. 😘

[quaint dune]

guy is butt hurt ig

idfk

[mild rock]

wait did he delete it

[tropic badge]

Sure thing

[quaint dune]

ye LOL

child XD

[tropic badge]

You literally turned on me

[quaint dune]

i havent turned on anyone lmfaooooo

[neat seal]

Great discussion about classes

[tropic badge]

One minute you was saying how great it was and you then decided to suck and turn

[shy slate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-principal-skinner-skinner-children-out-of-touch-gif-4463952

[quaint dune]

yes it was great to have a squad that actually played the role theyre meant to. that doesnt mean its the majority

which if you was reading would realise

i said 95% of the player base doesnt do that

[tropic badge]

Right that’s it , leave it at that

[quaint dune]

me saying earlier or yesterday i had a squad of 4 others actually playing their roles doesnt change that statement

[mild rock]

This guy only sees in black and white

[tropic badge]

95 percent you said you hadn’t played in years

[quaint dune]

he really doesz

ye

[mild rock]

I should be posting clips

[quaint dune]

how

[dusk ether]

players should start taking damage if they look at a medic request icon and don’t do anything. That’ll fix it

[quaint dune]

explain to me how

[quaint dune]

LMFAO

good idea yk

cyb, me not having played bfv for ages

has nothing to do with it at all

the battlefield community doesnt change that much that quickly

[mild rock]

Plane

[tropic badge]

To know that 95 percent doesn’t do anything

[quaint dune]

the players will be the exact same as they were when i last played

[shy slate]

No, we need a good and evil meter like in Fable. If you say youre coming to revive, but dont, +10 evil points

[tropic badge]

Find a better server then

[quaint dune]

THATS LITERALLY ALL PLAYERS

LMFAOOO

[tropic badge]

Not on Xbox

[quaint dune]

THATS XBOX

im on pc you clown

[mild rock]

Crossplay exists though

[quaint dune]

not on bfv

no?

[mild rock]

Oh true

Oh that's funny

Oh that's real funny this dude is on xbox

[quaint dune]

cross play was first added in 2042

[mild rock]

I was on xbox too

[quaint dune]

cos it was a whole debate on if it will ruin it for console players

[mild rock]

Players are as shit there as they are everywhere else.

[quaint dune]

yh

[tropic badge]

Well then that doesn’t reflect how the game works if people work , that’s people not how the game is constructed, which is the point I was making I like how v is constructed

[dusk ether]

Been playing bfV for the last 2 weeks and while I can’t read the minds of different players and tell what they are up to, I can say anecdotally that i do feel a greater push to be with supports and medics when playing as something else

[quaint dune]

regardless of when i last played bfv

i highly HIGHLY doubt people will have started playing their roles properly in the 2 years i havent played

like the vast majority doesnt do shit

[shy slate]

Find another server m8

[quaint dune]

doesnt mean those medics and supports actually do their job tho right?

[mild rock]

I am glad DICE has a functioning brain holy shit

[tropic badge]

They generally do in my experience, still , I like the structure of the game and it’s more glued togther , if potatoes are playing it that’s not the games fault

[quaint dune]

like yh sure some do but not all

[mild rock]

For all their mishaps at least they're not like this

[quaint dune]

welllllll

battlefront would disagree

personally

[dusk ether]

Often times yeah they don’t. I have to stand in their face, shoot them and request to get their attention sometimes. Watching them swap weapons to find the right keybind lol.

[mild rock]

I do need to sleep

[quaint dune]

yhhthe old stand in front of them and tea bag

[mild rock]

But I have a funny clip I want to post because it's all I care about.

[tropic badge]

But it doesn’t reflect the games structure and how dice made that one

[quaint dune]

how dice made it has nothing to do with how the community plays

cmon man

[tropic badge]

Potato will be potato no matter where or what game

[dusk ether]

Given how much bfV tries to push people to use support stuff it’s evident there’s nothing that is going to get people to use them without automatically doing it for them - like with picking ammo and health off the back of people

[mild rock]

Thanks for getting me into the mood to share this.

[mild rock]

Yeah I remember that was added later into its life cycle.

[quaint dune]

yhh this is true

[tropic badge]

You’re not getting the just of what I’m saying. V is perfect , players are not

[quaint dune]

V is not perfect ill tell you that for free

[mild rock]

How many hours on bf5.

[quaint dune]

nothing is perfect

if BFV was perfect theyd still be working on it

same goes for BF3, 4 and 1

[mild rock]

2730 hours here and holy shit that game is flawed in so many ways holy shit LMAO

Do I need to post my card again?

[tropic badge]

Well that’s a stretch word to use I know , not perfect but you know

[quaint dune]

i get you

[mild rock]

Bf5 was a fun game.

I like what it did.

[shy slate]

Yeah, if V was perfect...it wouldnt have been labbeled as a "Commercial failure" by EA

[quaint dune]

it is/was a good game

[dusk ether]

Which is why I feel to insight more ‘teamplay’, they need to make it so that those selfish acts end up also helping the team. Think support ammo box, you use it to resupply yourself which also helps others

[quaint dune]

but there is so many things wrong with it

[tropic badge]

Not sure why it was labelled that but hey ho

[mild rock]

Bf5 was the first game I actually took mega seriously because I could tinker with my controls.

[dusk ether]

So those who just think about themselves still help

[quaint dune]

i mean yh

[mild rock]

Because the game was a PR disaster pre release and a lot of issues hapepned during development.

There is a thread about it.

[shy slate]

Its fine, has lots of jank, but its an enjoyable enough experience (Maps wise) Weapons wise I find it shit these days tho.

[quaint dune]

BFV at release was a horror

[mild rock]

Patrick soderland, The previous head of DICE made lots of problematic statements and DICE staff were toss and turned around which is why there was a very large gap in content.

[quaint dune]

marketting was a failure and the beta was also a horror

[mild rock]

Really? The beta was rough but it wasn't horrible.

[quaint dune]

imo the game didnt get "great" till the pacific update

[mild rock]

I admit I didn't have expectations but you know

[quaint dune]

by "Horror" i mean just not good

[tropic badge]

I still enjoy playing it , all i know. Still love to witness the v1 , getting knocked on my arse from shockwaves , backward crawling from arty fire , the funny player one liners and liners from other players , idk its immersive to me

[mild rock]

I remember the Bren feeling really good there.

I certainly don't think bf5 is as terrible or as good as everyone makes it out to be.

It was a fun game! It did a lot of things right and lot of things wrong, Like attrition.

[quaint dune]

imo BFV is the perfect "in the middle" game

[tropic badge]

That’s goood but I just explained why I like it as much as I do

[mild rock]

I know you did

I'm just making a general statement.

[tropic badge]

Those details

[quaint dune]

it shows some of the best the franchise had and some of the worst

[mild rock]

It certainly feels like that, When things are bad they are bad but when they are good they are good.

[shy slate]

BFV live service was also terrible. I would actually say worse than 2042s...as it was so inconsistent

[mild rock]

But that goes with everything.

[quaint dune]

ye exactly

[mild rock]

I'll be honest.

Bf5's service feels like a distant memory.

[quaint dune]

thats cos it is

[mild rock]

If you look at my old comments from 2019 you'll see me in the moment.

[tropic badge]

Worse than 2042s huh

[quaint dune]

it ended whjat? 5 years ago?

[tropic badge]

Okydoky

[shy slate]

And as someone who played it while they were doing all their BS with attrition and the many TTK changes...that was a hell of an unfun time

[quaint dune]

tbf i think it was

it took so long to get an actual good content drop

[tropic badge]

You see I never complained about the ttk or even noticed when they’d changed it , didn’t care or notice about the fuss certain players were making

[quaint dune]

the game felt left in limbo for almost a year before the pacific update released

[shy slate]

2042 took a while to start getting content, but once they had the remake plan in place, we got new content/maps every 3 months

[tropic badge]

Yeah it was boring at the start that’s why live service

Still enjoyed the new mechanics though

[quaint dune]

yh but it took so long for that live service to kick in

that was the point being made

[shy slate]

BFV was like...wait 6 months...now wait 4 months...now 5...maybe we will drop support...here is a bunch of crap we have left over...enjoy

[tropic badge]

Well it was all free so can’t complain

[quaint dune]

youre one of those

good lord

just cos something is free, the game wasnt

[tropic badge]

Not one of those they said for the first time content would be free

[quaint dune]

its all well and good having free content

but if it takes 6+ months to drop whats the point

[shy slate]

I paid 80 bucks for the game at launch, so ill complain all I want TBH 😁

[dusk ether]

I remember being excited for its announcement only to realise my 750TI wouldn’t be able to run it :|

thus skipped it till half way through :(

[quaint dune]

id rather pay £20 for DLC drops at a consistent 3 months or so rather than pay £80 for a game then wait more than half a year for 1 big content drop

personally

[dusk ether]

Id rather get a game when it has everything I could want and then anything else is a bonus

[quaint dune]

people like you dont complain about how long it takes even small drops to come because "theyre free"

but youre still PAYING to buy the game

[dusk ether]

I see a lot of people get something for the promise of what could come over what is actually offered

[quaint dune]

so you have a right to complain

[mild rock]

I'm glad my rhetoric hasn't changed since the past 6 years.

I've just become more combative.

[quaint dune]

lay it out for us way

what is your rhetoric

i have a feeling its sorta similar to mine

[mild rock]

uhhh it isn't much

[dusk ether]

Sliding is cool

[mild rock]

There we go found my angriest comment

Or one of them

hahaha

Towards dice at the time

[quaint dune]

oooh ive had some of these moments

[mild rock]

Well I'm glad I learned how to get better at wording my complaints.

[dusk ether]

Do be careful, don’t go completely unbridled

[mild rock]

Basically.

[quaint dune]

[mild rock]

Its 1 am I should crash

-.-

[shy slate]

BFV releasing in what was it..November, then getting map a month later, then nothing until the following May was a bad joke at the time. I still remember being in disbelief that so little was being done with the new game.

[quaint dune]

lmfao go get some kip mate

[mild rock]

I gotta go to my co workers birthday and shit

[dusk ether]

Two very different tasks

[quaint dune]

yh like not having the americans or japanese as a playable faction for as long as we did was crazy for a WWII game

[quaint dune]

lmao

[mild rock]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-11895255

[shy slate]

Yeah, like not only was it a WW2 game with none of the WW2 battles you'd want...were werent even going to be getting those battles and told to like it 😄

[quaint dune]

like personally id rather just pay an up front price

and have the game be fully complete

and the only updates be event or seasonal things or bug fixes

[dusk ether]

Ah but it was the untold theatres of war don’t you see

[quaint dune]

so true

[shy slate]

What a genius marketing move for a WW2 game.

[mild rock]

It was a mess.

We waited for months

[quaint dune]

the pacific update was peak of that games life span

change my mind

[mild rock]

I i i dont know i kept playing.

The start of battlefest was when the game felt like it was getting better.

Increased the ranks to 500 woohoo imma grind it out

[quaint dune]

oh shit i gotta go feed my dogs 1 sec

brb XD

[shy slate]

DICE: Hey...remember that war none of you were alive for, and only remember through nostalgia of popular war movies. covering all the big, expansive battles of said war?

Players: YES!!!!!!

DICE: Now you get to experience none of that, but instead you get to see how the war was seen from the eyes of a fisherman from Finland

[mild rock]

At least the maps like Rotterdam were pretty good.

[hollow turtle]

Little bit of an opinion here but I have done research for a couple hours on the Battlefield community’s issue with the new class system. Short version is that it simply didn’t work, as case for 2042 and the majority of the community doesn’t want another failure like 2042. I hope DICE is actually listening to the majority and not the minority that is agreeing with them.

[shy slate]

Yeah, some of the maps were great, but the whole build up to the game was so bad

I had very little hype for it, knowing we werent going to get battles like Normandy, Battle for Berlin, Battles of Stalingrad, Operation Market Garden, ETC.

[mild rock]

I was going through a lot of depression at the time and wanted to move on from bf1.

[shy slate]

Better days now hopefully! 😄

[mild rock]

Oh yeah I am not plagued by demons nearly as much anymore.

[dusk ether]

Me knowing nothing about ww2 did lessen the blow as I didn’t really have any settings I wanted to see lol

[mild rock]

I gave the game a 6 month break and played it when the Russian dlc came out.

That was my great adventure.

[mighty zealot]

Fascinating, and presumably you played past bf games, 2042, and the alpha to determine this yourself and not get caught in an echo chamber?

[mild rock]

For the first time in months I genuinely felt happy. But lets not to get too personal.

[dusk ether]

Plz no class discussion in class chat we are having a nice conversation

[mighty zealot]

Or did you just read a few post and were like “yeah, this goes with what I believe” and leave it at that?

[quaint dune]

Rotterdam was just Amiens from bf1 chante my mind

[quaint dune]

This

Discussing classes in the class chat? Utter woke nonsense

[dusk ether]

Or I will unleash my 3 page analysis on classes on you

[mighty zealot]

My bad, it’ll never happen again 😔

[quaint dune]

Pls no, I cba reading that much

[mild rock]

:3

[quaint dune]

Just for the exact same cycle to begin

[quaint dune]

That is the cutest thing I've ever seen

I want one

[mild rock]

Bullet whiskey shop i believe?

[mild rock]

OH bullet that reminds me of something from archer for some reason.

[dusk ether]

Good. Now please, good vibes only

[mighty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-vibe-groove-dance-gif-21049112

[dusk ether]

I will admit I do want one

Not sure how I’d explain what it is to the family though

[mild rock]

Just say you wanted a decoration.

[dusk ether]

‘It’s a claymore’

‘Like the big sword?’

‘No. Boom’

[shy slate]

"It began when I was but a wee 7 year old. My Grandpa sat me on his lap and reached for something from the adjacent drawer. He opened it and pulled out a box. Grandpa turned to me and said...Classes are like this box of assorted chocolates, you never quite know what you're going to get."

[mild rock]

https://claytheclaymoreplush.com/ @dusk ether @quaint dune

[quaint dune]

My man

[mighty zealot]

Okay that’s cute

[hollow turtle]

@mighty zealot I have played 2042 and I have not yet received any invites from DICE on playing the Alpha. The point is the overwhelming majority of the community requests locked weapons. Don’t take my word for that, investigate for yourself. The end of my paragraph was my opinion “I hope DICE is listening”

[mild rock]

There was a scene on archer where he was being mocked for breast cancer so he shot the guy. Earlier on he beat his co worker blurting "im trying to stay positive!"

[shy slate]

Its hardly overwhelming in one direction of the other

[quaint dune]

lmfao

[dusk ether]

‘You never quite know where the supports are because of the unlocked weapons’ ‘this salted toffee caramel could represent a sniper support. All alone, with no friends,’

[quaint dune]

the locked weapons or unlocked weapons seems 50/50 tbh

[quaint dune]

LMAO

[shy slate]

Its probs more like 35 locked / 35 unlocked / 30 dont care (Just want a good game)

[quaint dune]

yh true

i lean to the locked

but at the end of the day i just want a good battlefield game

im sick of the franchises i love just going to shit

[dusk ether]

Fortunately I can change my approach to enjoy most of what they throw at me

[quaint dune]

battlefield

battlefront

smite

titanfall

so many franchises i love ruined by bad decisions

[dusk ether]

Or just not making a third game

[quaint dune]

dont even man

weve had 2 attempts at a battlefront 3

[dusk ether]

Titanfall 3 has been cancelled 50 times

[quaint dune]

its why i dislike apex

cos that was meant to be titanfall 3

but instead we got a shitty BR

[mild rock]

Ge eventually goes on a chemo induced rampage to kill an old man and its the most pathetic funniest thing you'll see.

[quaint dune]

xD

[neat seal]

I kinda enjoyed apex, but it's turned to crap as well

[quaint dune]

i enjoyed apex too cos it felt new

but id rather have had titanfall 3

EA literally threw titanfall 2 to the wolves

releasing it between bf1 and infinite warfare

literally doomed it from the start

[dusk ether]

If it was a 6v6 movement based shooter with double jumps, wall rides and titans… wait a minute

[quaint dune]

[mild rock]

Black ops 3!

[quaint dune]

no

stop

[dusk ether]

No cod
Cod bad
Bad

No

[quaint dune]

the only good thing about bo3 was zombies

[mild rock]

No black ops 3 good fuck you

[quaint dune]

fight me

[dusk ether]

(I haven’t played it)

[raven galleon]

Advanced warfare was good B)

All modes

[quaint dune]

thats a ban

surely

[raven galleon]

Cope

[quaint dune]

AW literally started the loot boxes bro

wtf you mean cope

[mild rock]

Ehhh I was into bf4 bfh during that time.

[raven galleon]

I know

And I didn't care

[quaint dune]

loot boxes alone makes AW shit

[raven galleon]

Since I don't buy anything

[quaint dune]

either way cod shit now

[raven galleon]

Ye

Unless I get AW2

[shy slate]

Advanced WF had a cool campaign, but the MP was terrible

[raven galleon]

Zombies was chill

[dusk ether]

What you’re seeing here

Is

[quaint dune]

a campaign i liked from cod was infinite warfare

the game was shit but the campaign was cinema

[dusk ether]

It also birthed the greatest meme known to man which we can praise it for

[quaint dune]

F

[raven galleon]

Idk say what u want, still enjoyed mp just bc of how fresh it felt

[dull pier]

i hated AWs MP

campaign was decent

im still playing waw to this day over most cods tho lol

[fiery rune]

oh i want to read this

[raven galleon]

You already did, it was server capacity and stress test

The survey was honestly braindead

[feral torrent]

i loved the last questions

although necessary

ppl couldnt even read their mails

[quaint dune]

xD

[left fulcrum]

Did it seem to you that users' opinions were not that important? I hope they bring back True operators like BF3, BF4... too much chaos to be able to choose any weapon for any operator... like 2042

[quaint dune]

here we go again

[left fulcrum]

ah, has this already been discussed? ahah

[fiery rune]

Man I'd hate for there to be too much chaos in...

Battlefield?

[quaint dune]

theres been 5 world wars on the topic

[raven galleon]

Just not the reason they did the playtest for

[left fulcrum]

it's ok

[dull pier]

i hate the tacticool operators term

[raven galleon]

Tacticoolest

[dull pier]

also i swear bro i had to do the like, "tell us about yourself" survey 5 times until EA playtest actually registered me as doing it

[fiery rune]

have they actually used the term operators ever?

In 2042 they weren't even called operators. Players called them operators because they looked sort of like a thing they'd seen before that was called operators in a different game.

[dull pier]

no its just 2019 players and LARPers call any form of soldier a operator now

[obsidian scroll]

Just make the game cooler and call them war criminals

[dusk ether]

Considering my friends play league and call them champions despite officially being called specialists, any game where you pick a character in this capacity seems to just have people use the term for the hero shooter they play the most

Operator to me sounds like some kind of support help line

[raven galleon]

You're the operator

Operating a puter

[fiery rune]

special ops

[fresh cliff]

They’re called specialists, but that is basically a synonym for operator

[fiery rune]

those are not synonymous

[fresh cliff]

When it comes to gaming, they basically are

There’s some differences, but you can call them each other without much issue

[dusk ether]

Operator to me has to be someone that operates something, a device or whatnot. Calling specialists that just doesn’t feel right to me

[fresh cliff]

Well yeah. That’s the irl term

The way gaming has shown them, specialists are just operators that have special gadgets

[raven galleon]

Ye

Yeyeye why is this a topic

Call them how u like

[dusk ether]

Either way I’ll call them heroes :>

[raven galleon]

And I'll call them minions

Problem?

[quaint dune]

yk ive only just realised BFV doesnt have a "favourites" system for servers

how tf was that a thing

[light quarry]

im willing to accept operator if the game lets us operate a forklift, imagine picking up a tank(yes unrealistic), you aint going anywhere bud.

[obsidian scroll]

I will only accept War Criminal. Cancel the game otherwise

[dusk ether]

Can help stop campers on your team

[desert hamlet]

I want a playtest invittttttte!! been playin since 1942 in 2002!

[raven galleon]

Stand in line

[gentle star]

It's random, literally doesn't matter when you started playing the series

Hell you don't even need to have played any previous game

[obsidian scroll]

No give me an invite, im cooler

[desert hamlet]

I understand that lol. here is to you all getting your invites! cheers!

[obsidian scroll]

You too! May the the luck be in your favor.

Any guesses on what the new meat grinder map will be? A mideastern cave maybe?

[lyric glen]

there are more invites going out..?

[gentle star]

Eventually

[lyric glen]

neat

[boreal harbor]

4 years of forced statistics literacy should be forced in high school

[boreal harbor]

“It doesn’t work”

Why…?

Because 2042 was a dumpster fire at launch, ignoring it in its current state where unlocked weapons cause zero issues

[waxen cypress]

"unlocked weapons cause zero issues" to you

y'all keep making your personal tastes a fact

the only fact is what majority wants

which is locked

[humble root]

explain what "issues" unlocked weapon causes?
it does the opposite actually🤓

[waxen cypress]

what issue does locked cause?

thats what I'm saying its not about issues

its about tastes

[boreal harbor]

Player agency, class imbalance…

[waxen cypress]

class imbalance a locked weapons system?

[boreal harbor]

Again, statistical illiteracy

[waxen cypress]

are you sure you're not confused here

because in Labs 90% of players were a medic

[fresh cliff]

The vast community sees everything 2042 changed as bad because 90% of what they changed was bad. Or, at least, poorly done. It’s basically the opposite of rose-tinted glasses.

Imo, unlocked weapons aren’t the end of the world. I think it’d be better to have them be locked to give classes more unique play styles, but I don’t care too much

I think the big thing they should be focusing on is changing Assault to not be completely unbalanced

[boreal harbor]

You understand that BF has had issues with players leaning towards certain classes its entire history based off which weapon class it’s given

[oblique zephyr]

having weapon locked in tha past have helped the player play better the classes, which was good for all, we don't need a medic with a sniper rifle that play away for all the other, that's the recon role 🙂

[boreal harbor]

A test that most people played a few hours at most and didn’t know what the game was or what they were doing

[waxen cypress]

once again you should speak for yourself

[boreal harbor]

A person playing sniper is going to be useless whether they’re recon, medic, engineer, assault with a sniper

You’re not losing a medic

[waxen cypress]

Yep, that's the thing, every succesful battlefield in history had a locked system - if this is not a fact I don't know what is

[fresh cliff]

More player agency isn’t necessarily good

[boreal harbor]

BF4 was a raging failure of a dumpster fire with EA getting slammed with class actions its first year…

[fresh cliff]

Who mentioned 4?

[boreal harbor]

He’s mentioning how every BF with locked weapons was a success… as if that was what made them successful

[waxen cypress]

"A person playing sniper is going to be useless" lol. See this is the mentality we don't need in the new battlefield.