battlefield-labs-discussion

[serene grove]

Like I say its more of its own system overall, but when comparing it to other battlefields, saying its a clone of 2042 is dead wrong.

[crimson moss]

yeah

[serene grove]

One thing I would like them to bring from 2042 however, is the attachment system, I kinda liked being able to swap out on the fly, although it was kinda broken in some instances

[crimson moss]

the only thing that wasnt very well implemented was that you could have different ammo types so you didnt really run out of ammo

but i dont think the + system will return

[serene grove]

Oh, I doubt it as well, but it was fun and unique.
But being able to sway from a bipod and long scope, to short scope and grip made for interesting gameplay

[inland glacier]

It kinda the opposite of attrition but

That game kinda the opposite of everything lol

[glad trench]

It’s closer to 2042 than BF4.

And the person you’re talking about was specifically talking about the class structure between 6 and 2042 being identical

Oh wow, they went back to BF3/4 vehicle selection from the spawn screen, must mean we’re getting BF4 again

The only people saying bf4 is the closest comparison are lemmings that haven’t touched it and see a modern setting again

[serene grove]

Keep trolling

[serene grove]

Which is objectively wrong, but you're just a troll, so you dont understand

[night ingot]

I want tanks do hit kill to infantry with there large calibre cannons 😒

[versed token]

Play hardcore if you want an abyssmal experience

[night ingot]

BF 3 and 4 tanks do it hit kill with large calibre cannons on normal mode looool now they only do 60% damage and get destroyed with 2 rockets looool

[versed token]

If you're talking about the next game the balance isn't done yet

[glad trench]

When have tanks not killed infantry when direct hitting?

[versed token]

He probably saw a leak where someone didn't die from the splash damage

[dusky moth]

Just read through the "class" system. Why are we always reinventing the damn wheel when we know for a fact what has, historically, worked and made people happy? Genuine question.

[glad trench]

how are they reinventing the wheel? everything they're doing has been done before

[dusky moth]

I've never seen it done that way and I've played since Bad Company. But OK

[glad trench]

we've had:

• open weapons
• field upgrades/perks
• call ins
• weapon proficiencies tied to classes

[dusky moth]

• Its BF3/4 esqe but more steps

[mossy marten]

not really
It's a mix of 2042 classes (assault being anti infy, engi, support being medic/ammo, and recon) with BFV subclasses

and unlocked weapons with weapon proficiencies (2042)

BF3/4 classes were

• Assault being medic + Underbarrels
• Engineer
• Support being ammo and cheese gadgets
• Recon

And then field upgrades (as they were called before) were just groups of perks you select

[dusky moth]

We'll see...
"Assault - Adrenaline Injector. We’re equipping the Assault class with an Adrenaline Injector that grants resistance to flash and stun effects, enhances sprint speed, reduces explosive damage, and amplifies enemy footsteps for a brief period."

[glad trench]

okay... it's a new gadget

[dusky moth]

Yeah, that stuff has totally been in games before

[golden vortex]

Every BF has made changes so the classes fit with the rest of the gameplay and what modern gamers want.

[glad trench]

we've always gotten new gadgets

[mossy marten]

autoinjectors were in BF2 and BC1 (tho they were healing and not whatever BF6 is)

[leaden kraken]

Every BF game does something different with classes

[verbal crypt]

If anyone here has advanced knowledge of this Secure Boot thing msg me lol. Im at my wits end of trying things I cannot figure out the issue I'm running into. I've legit tried everything, flashed latest bios, fresh windows install, enabled all the proper secure boot features for my motherboard, tried clearing and installing new secure boot keys, my drives are all GPT, etc.. lol

[mossy marten]

[autumn adder]

Wohoo maybe bf6 will do something different then instead of copy and pasting lazy weapon proficiencies from 2042

[glad trench]

as opposed to copying BF4 like most of you are asking for?

[leaden kraken]

I still want class exclusive weapons but DICE seems pretty set in stone on not doing that, so the best we can hope for if they don't go back to locked weapons is for them to be balanced well

[autumn adder]

well if you insist on simply copying, then why not do it from the more popular franchises?

ive said, I am perfectly happy with locked or unlocked, as long as they comit and try to do it well, but these weapon class buffs are just a poo approach

[leaden kraken]

I'd rather have class buffs for their respective weapons than not honestly, it gives incentives for the player to commit to the role of the class they want to play

[dusky moth]

IDK either, brother. I have a pre-built PC that put my own GPU/CPU in and literally don't have the option to turn it on. I was hoping to wait and see whats up.

[golden vortex]

Try verifying game files

[autumn adder]

class roles are more defined by their gadgets tho, I would give them unique attachments for their "appropriate" weapon classes that they can choose to use to further support their classes role instead of gimping the whole weapon category for anyone who isnt that class

[verbal crypt]

Nah it’s not that, when I enable it in bios and my pc boots back up my mouse, keyboard, and usb devices don’t work lol. I’ve looked it up and it says the devices might not be “signed” so I tried a few things but nothing works it’s mad annoying lol

[golden vortex]

Sounds weird. Booting with USB unplugged and then plugging in afterwards don't work?

[leaden kraken]

This entire issue would be solved if the weapons were just class exclusive in the first place, but since that's not the case, having buffs (that aren't really that much besides Recon which is compounded by the insanely powerful specializations) is pretty much the only option to give good incentive for a class to use that specific weapon.

[autumn adder]

I get you there but if they are going for a more sandbox approach and not locking weapons, then still trying to incentivise people to use a specific weapon seems counter productive

[verbal crypt]

Tried that doesn’t work either lol

[glad trench]

What brand mobo are you running

[rugged brook]

How do I get the battlefield labs files off my computer?

[vocal axle]

You can’t delete it? I just deleted it off my PS5…

Can you not uninstall the file manually?

[lapis bear]

Im stuck in matchmaking for minutes and then get disconnected error

[crimson moss]

theres always gamefile folders just delete the folder if you cant uninstall it seperately ig

[mossy marten]

....... You know that's not allowed right?

[deft vigil]

i dindt know, i delete just for precaution

[crimson moss]

? deleting gamefiles from your pc isnt allowed?

oh nvm

[mossy marten]

something else

[fair summit]

Careful bro

[sweet yoke]

Just wait for an open beta. Keep telling y'all.

[mighty tangle]

Is there an open beta now?

[sweet yoke]

No. Nothing announced yet. But from someone who's been on bf labs the process just to get in is a pain. It's not worth the hassle.

Game is fire. But bf labs and actually getting in is a headache.

[glad trench]

they need to officially reveal the game, drop the NDA and open up Labs to everyone that had applied prior to the reveal date. Run it for more than the 2 hour play sessions they have been

[golden vortex]

Sounds like a beta

[glad trench]

closed beta

[tepid plinth]

well it isn't too complicated, you just press a button and pray

Unless it's just the randomness of it all

[feral garden]

I see no issues that will arise from opening labs up from a few thousand, to 1.3m users. 🤣

[glad trench]

gotta keep stress testing those servers

so what if they catch fire the first week

[golden vortex]

"scaling up over time" is a myth, just go ham from the start, nothing can go wrong

[obtuse sail]

Greetings! Due to circumstances I have missed the first alpha I got invited to. I have re-registered again. Is there a chance I get picked again ? Is there anyone who missed and got invited later ?

[glad trench]

a chance yes, likely no

[obtuse sail]

Hope they see my 3k+ hours across all games 😄

[lavish chasm]

I hope they dial it back with the cosmetics on this one

[obtuse sail]

There are like 500+ types of military uniforms across the world. IDK why they choose santa claus.. Even if they design a skin from ground up, atleast to be something you can actually see on a battlefield

[glad trench]

because after so many different real world uniforms they all begin to look the same

[weak obsidian]

yeah every well funded military looks pretty samey

[lavish chasm]

can't they find a different way to monetize instead of skins? I feel like just buying DLC didn't hurt BF3 and BF4 in any way

[obtuse sail]

Wellp, battlefield 4 had a ton of uniforms, and no one complained of lack of customisation 😄

[glad trench]

it hurt the playerbase getting segregated

BF4 was 12 years ago, cosmetics weren't really a thing

the box has been opened, people like customizing their characters

[weak obsidian]

people like playing dress up

[glad trench]

also, I can pull up multiple pictures of american GIs dressed up in Santa gear

[obtuse sail]

In actual combat ? 😄

[glad trench]

is a game of conquest actual combat?

[obtuse sail]

wdym

[glad trench]

it's a video game, it's not real. having xmas themed skins for a holiday event has been a thing for 20 years

[obtuse sail]

yea, but its a game aiming for realism

[glad trench]

COD4 had a whole map redone with Christmas decorations and everyone loved that

[lavish chasm]

Customization is cool but they should just stick to realistic clothing and gear, like in ARMA

[glad trench]

the game I can get shot in the chest with a tank shell and get revived by a medic w/ some electricity?

[glad trench]

There's already ARMA and other games that have strived for authenticity more so than BF available

[obtuse sail]

😄 I guess there is no point in arguing with an elitist like you

[glad trench]

me pointing out an arcadey game is arcadey equals elitism

[lavish chasm]

what is the general consensus?

[glad trench]

there is no general consensus

DICE hasn't surveyed the million of people who buy the game and published the findings

[minor linden]

I think holiday skins are fine as long as they are only available on holidays or are simple color redos

I would rather not see Santa running around the map with an m4

[glad trench]

I'd agree on having free useable holiday skins during holiday events that go away after the event ends. with more subtle skins(unlockable/purchaseable) related to the event persisting

[weak obsidian]

battlefield has never been realistic 💀

[obtuse sail]

For an FPS it is. Its not a milsim

[weak obsidian]

maybe if you've only played cod in your life

[tall urchin]

Holiday festivities in games was always unmatched.

[weak obsidian]

if BF6 doesn't have pumpkin heads for halloween I'm rioting

[obtuse sail]

😄 Playing FPS since Delta Froce Task Force Dagger, I think ive seen more than COD but ok 😄

[rugged seal]

They never even released the Santa skin lol

[glad trench]

such a simple change that adds so much and mixes it up for a couple weeks

especially with how many US based maps are rumored to be in this game.

I want my christmas in brooklyn Division 1 vibes in BF6 lmao

[mossy marten]

BF has a relatively realistic aesthetic
But it's not realistic gameplay wise in any way

[weak obsidian]

this 👆

[obtuse sail]

It can be under hardcore. Portal had some realistic gameplay servers

[glad trench]

so can any game with custom rule sets

[mossy marten]

[mossy marten]

Oh yeah
1000% dmg and 1000% velocity is super realistic

[obtuse sail]

Ahh okay

whatever you say 😄

[weak obsidian]

tweaking variables does not equal realistic systems

[weak obsidian]

9mm 2 tapping someone from 200 metres... so realistic ...

[tall urchin]

More immersed than a submarine

[glad trench]

1942 mentioned?

[lavish chasm]

So we all agree it's battlefield so it should obviously be arcadey, but skins, weapons, gear should be realistic/appropriate for modern nato and whatever other faction conflict? But we're cool with silly skins on holidays or special occasions?

[mossy marten]

1 tapping*
And yeah, I don't think people understand between realistic aesthetic and realistic gameplay (arma)

[glad trench]

no, I'm cool with "inauthentic" skins year around

not santa and his reindeer but there's a spectrum between boring ass uniforms from X country to Santa

[mossy marten]

Would be cool to have like some PMC stuff a la Wildlands

Bring back cops and robbers from hardline as skins

[weak obsidian]

it wouldn't hurt to have santa hats for the holiday period

[weak obsidian]

I'm gonna be real arma ain't even that realistic unless you mod it

[mossy marten]

Does it include chow time and sleeping in a cot? Gotta have that ultra realism

[weak obsidian]

you can't join this unit unless you partake in basic training

[tepid plinth]

‘Press Z to prone’

Thank you drill sergeant, very cool

[lavish chasm]

So the consensus is: Arcadey (like BF3 and BF4), using realistic costmetics with unique skins within reason to the theme?

[weak obsidian]

sure

I hope the goofiest thing they add is like those airsoft skull masks, no weird glowing or cel shaded stuff please

[lavish chasm]

what's the selling point as of now? Like bf4 has levelution, BfV had a shit of vehicles and vehicle customization + SL calling in artillery, 2042 has portal and tornados

gameplay wise

[glad trench]

idk, game hasn't been revealed

[weak obsidian]

it being a "return" to form probably

honestly battlefield doesn't need a gimmick to sell itself, the game just needs to be good at launch

[lavish chasm]

That's true, like BF3

Idk how the launch for that was but that game didn't really have a gimmick, and it's definitely one of the best

[weak obsidian]

it had nice graphics for the time

[glad trench]

blue tint

[weak obsidian]

blue tint is sovl

everyone makes fun of it but I'd argue BF4 looks weirder than 3

[glad trench]

bf4 looks like shit imo

[weak obsidian]

everything is so shiny...

[glad trench]

washed out, ugly colors. everything is just grey/brown

[lavish chasm]

it would be cool if they add more vehicle variety like BFV did. Maybe in this one have like 6 different aircraft roles (air superiority, multirole, ground attack, bomber, SEAD/electronic warfare. And having multiple attack helicopters to choose from

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's kind of a missed opportunity to not have multiple vehicles for each class

especially since the factions comprise of multiple nations

[lavish chasm]

They should honestly just go to town on the variety of vehicles and gadgets

[crimson moss]

for what it was in its time it was pretty insane looking

[glad trench]

graphically yes, visually no

BF3 had inferior graphics, way better to look at it and holds up better to this day (ironically in large part cuz of the blue filter)

[wild summit]

Guys, I'm in the military and just got back from an underway on my ship recently. It was a month long, so please update me! Did I miss anything? Any news? Etc?

[glad trench]

open weapons is the decision DICE has settled on

go read the recent blog, that's really the only news from the last month.

[wild summit]

Tragic, i thought there'd be more. Open weapons isn't the direction most of the community wants to go, but I hope its a small detail that can be overlooked by them doing something way cooler or new to battlefield.

[weak obsidian]

they're probably saving stuff for the big reveal

[wild summit]

I imagine so. If there's one thing they excel at, its reveal trailers

[crimson moss]

im 100% certain that a lot of people wont care that its open

[glad trench]

there's a new leaked 15min gameplay clip on the subreddit.

watch it and ask if you think unlocked weapons changes how much of a BF that plays like

[crimson moss]

people are very heavily overreacting on weapons

[glad trench]

most the whiners are only whining cuz they're miserable and bored and as soon as they play the game they'll either forget or shutup about it

[crimson moss]

i understand why they want it

but im 100% certain that it just wont matter the way they think it does

[glad trench]

because it's all they know and they can't divorce the fact that open weapons wasn't why 2042 failed?

[lavish chasm]

It's open weapons but you're at a disadvantage if you don't use "class specific weapons" (like reduced accuracy)

[crimson moss]

the disadvantages arent really that big to the point that it matters

[wild summit]

Is the 15 minute video a new build? I played labs back in like May I think, so

[crimson moss]

and you dont get disadvantages but you get advantages on using specific class of weapons

[glad trench]

should be. menus/hud look updated

more map details, less texures missing like older builds

[crimson moss]

i dont think we are allowed to talk about leaks

[glad trench]

what leaks? do I need to call my plumber

[weak obsidian]

abbasid has proper colour grading now

[glad trench]

imo hope they iterate on the scoreboard. 2042 got it right with showing revives | repairs/resupplies/heals

as their own columns

[weak obsidian]

ironically 2042 ended up with the best scoreboard in the end

[glad trench]

don't let anyone know that 2042 actually did do some things really well

[lavish chasm]

something they need to fix is the helicopter physics. The 2042 helicopters feel extremely light and I feel it should feel more like bf4. It should require some skill too

[weak obsidian]

nightbird infantry farmers 😐

[glad trench]

siege apache apes

[weak obsidian]

class signature gadgets are awesome

[glad trench]

[weak obsidian]

insane that the older games let you play medic without revive or heals

[glad trench]

no no, that's class identity you're insulting there

[weak obsidian]

or support with no ammo

oh... yeah... weapons are far more important ...

[glad trench]

me running assault in BF4 with no medpack/defibs was peak teamwork

[weak obsidian]

siege attack heli goons ruin the fun

[glad trench]

like my teammates would see me... an assault/medic and not know that I wasn't strapped like that

we need game readability

[weak obsidian]

that's why kinda concerned about the current support set up

idk if the support is specced into being a medic or fire support ammo guy

becomes a bit more ambigious for revives

[glad trench]

they could do what every MMO does, put the spec icon next to the class icon

at least in the squad ui element

[weak obsidian]

that'd be cool

[glad trench]

have any of the class specializations other than recon been shown/leaked. I know they were at the very beginning of labs but shit has obv changed

[lavish chasm]

something about combining medic and support feels kind of cringe

[glad trench]

idk, I like it. always a PITA finding an ammo crate outside (of meatgrinder chokepoints) of 2042 cuz no one wants to use LMGs

[weak obsidian]

I think some of the perks got nerfed but that's about it

[weak obsidian]

it's better than medic + assault imo but the ideal solution would be 5 classes

[lavish chasm]

5 classes would be cool

[weak obsidian]

I find with 4 classes gadgets always get handed out awkwardly

[glad trench]

like recon gadgets since they've merged the sniper/spec ops class from BF2

[weak obsidian]

yeah I feel like the spec op elements of recon are never really advertised much

[weak obsidian]

there are better songs on that album

[last sphinx]

Oh yeah, then why don't all the armies play those instead?

[weak obsidian]

not chud coded enough

[verbal crypt]

I finally figured out the secure boot issue with my system if any fellow nerds out there care to hear about this insane debacle lmao

[feral garden]

Go on!

[winter viper]

Wonder where @real glade has been hiding...been almost a month now and my pockets still empty

[verbal crypt]

So I went back to Windows, fresh install, flashed bios, etc. once I enabled secure boot my mouse and keyboard would not work. From all this reading and shit I’ve been doing I found out that every driver for all your devices need to be “signed” by Microsoft. So I downloaded TeamViewer on my phone and Pc, enabled secure boot and started Pc up. As always mouse and keyboard didn’t work so I remoted into my Pc on my phone and went to device manager. Noticed that my mouse and keyboard devices had errors and an unsigned driver so I uninstalled them, had to go into a REGEDIT path and delete .sys files, then restarted pc. Started back up and boom devices all had signed drivers and work lol. Just tested 2042 and got right in

[feral garden]

So the input devices had exclamation marks on device manager always, or only after enabling secure boot?

[verbal crypt]

Only when enabling secure boot. When I would go to device manager > mouse > HID-complaint mouse > properties > drivers > driver info it would show 3 total drivers, 2 of them were digitally signed by Microsoft but one of them wasn’t signed. So I uninstalled the devices and restarted

[feral garden]

What brand are the devices?

[verbal crypt]

Lamzu Atlantis mouse and huntsman pro mini

[tall urchin]

Weird, I have the Atlantis mini and never experienced that issue. Gotta love Windows man lol.

[covert nest]

Yay drivers. -.-

[verbal crypt]

Yeah I got the OG V2 lol. My Pc was prebuilt and it came using the “other os” type and “custom” boot rather than windows UEFI and standard so maybe that had something to do with it idk lol

[mossy marten]

Prebuilt? May be another cause of all that

[verbal crypt]

Nahh it’s from Powergpu they are goated. Jese is as legit as they come I handpicked all the parts I wanted it’s been flawless for 3 years up until this one little thing lol

[mossy marten]

never had a prebuilt so I don't know jack about companies
I just don't trust any of them to not screw something up and rather select parts and build myself

[verbal crypt]

I had the same thought process but I have a buddy who lives in NC and knows one of the dudes who work there and I’ve only ever seen good things so I went for it lol

[tall urchin]

I've heard power gpu are legit as far as pre-built goes.

[verbal crypt]

They are great the owner is a stand up dude and customer support is top notch. Nicest dudes

[glad trench]

Was about to ask John battlefield when the trailer was gonna drop this month

[real glade]

Yo hop off my meat bro

Like deadass you’re worrying about a grown ass man

[verbal crypt]

[glad trench]

When is the reveal dropping bro

[real glade]

In your ass

[glad trench]

TDIL my ass is a moment in time

[feral garden]

Bro will never pay up, or even own up. Lol

[severe anvil]

All my work in vein. I had hoped to retire from the payout. 😭 (it's all fun and jokes but let's not continue to harp on them and don't tag them when they're not active in chat, thanks).

[proud kiln]

Are there any upcoming tests or surveys one can anticipated in within the foreseeable future?

[severe anvil]

If you've signed up for Battlefield Labs and get selected you'll get info via email.

[winter viper]

Nope, but he'll get salty about it though...

[winter viper]

In vein? Whoa buddy lol. Jk jk lol

[severe anvil]

Me no type good

(also all English words sound the same but have different spelling and as a German I do not like it. Thanks for the correction. 🤣 )

[glad trench]

Hey, it’s how we gatekeep our language

Hit you with 3 forms of one word that all sound exactly the same

[covert nest]

GERMAN

[covert nest]

Die der das

[glad trench]

Introduce him to a bogan Aussie and have him question what’s really English

[covert nest]

I cant do bogan cause im not a bogan!

If i leave a microphone in the shitty part of Sydney then i can get something!

[glad trench]

[covert nest]

I dont even live in Sydney which is funny.

[glad trench]

Had a drinking game back when I played footie where we’d would play “name of Australian suburb/township or made up word”

[covert nest]

DIE.

[glad trench]

Rd. 1 - Whanregarwen

[rancid ferry]

Redacted question regarding testing timing

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[glad trench]

have you been playing the other playtests since the may stress test?

that's your answer

[rancid ferry]

no, I only got an email for the DATE REDACTED stress test, so I guess that is all I had access to? I got no communication regarding any other tests

[glad trench]

that's your answer

[feral garden]

Youre also probably gonna get muted for posting confidential info

[rancid ferry]

ummm sorry

[feral garden]

You still have time to delete OG comment before a mod sees it

[rancid ferry]

redacted it, sorry. Didn't realized the dates of a test was confidential.

[feral garden]

Everything labs related, which isnt posted in a blog at #1335997362258186292 is confidential. At least you know now 😄

[fair summit]

Careful guys

[winter viper]

Where, wear, we're, were
There, their, there, they're
Win, when, won, one
Lol

[glad trench]

Forgot the classic

You, your, you’re

[winter viper]

Youandallofdem
When referring to someone and all their family lol

[glad trench]

You all, y’all

[tepid plinth]

Saying y’all can’t help but have me imagine a very strong American accent

I use it sometimes in text but saying it in person just isn’t right

[glad trench]

You can say it without the heavy southern drawl lol

I’m actually super curious what it would sound like with various UK accents now

[feral garden]

Anytime I hear or see the word "y'all" I think of Dolly Parton...cos my parents listened to her a lot when I was young.

[rancid ferry]

you just got to come down to the American South, it is super normalized and in the vernacular here.

[glad trench]

piano intro to 9 to 5 starts

[proud kiln]

Ty for informing me👍

[tepid plinth]

I just end up saying it like 'yarl'. Which sounds awful when I'm saying it

[glad trench]

fade into Skyrim intro

It’s the Viking blood and the need to appease the Jarls of old

[winter viper]

My friend in the UK...when he tries to sound American, he sounds worse than most southern accents, which is funny as the southern accent (especially Georgia) is just a slowed down posh English accent lol

Keeps calling me a Yokel too, which is the funniest non offensive insult. Like that's the best you got? Lol

[glad trench]

Isn’t a ton of southern ancestry directly from the kent region?

Like the southern settlers were from Kent cuz the English didn’t want them in England at the time

Been a while since I’ve looked up the etymology etc of colonial America

[tepid plinth]

was going to put jarl as my pronunciation of it actually

[winter viper]

Depends, Tennessee and Kentucky were almost Irish and Scottish immigrants, and you can still hear it. Texas is Czech, German, Irish and Scottish mixed with Spanish and Native

[glad trench]

Ya talking Atlantic “south”. OG colonies

[winter viper]

The Carolinas, Georgia, Florida yeah, heavy Kent and southern English

Take a person from Savanna, Georgia and speed up their speech and you'd think they were from the UK.

[solemn nacelle]

I’m sure this gets asked pretty often but if I previously received an invite for BF Labs, does that mean I’m eligible for future play tests as well?

[fleet robin]

if it was the may one then no, any others yes

usually, anyway

[topaz prairie]

How do I join to become like a beta tester?

[feral garden]

You sign up on the BF Labs page

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[signal pier]

Still no code. Will the tests ever arrive in Italy? Or am I the only one who hasn't received the code?

[rugged seal]

99.99% of people wont get in

[eager oyster]

True

I sign up when the page first came out. haven’t had a chance to get in yet

[topaz prairie]

Thank you

[rugged seal]

one of the first things they said here was that sign up order wouldn't matter

[quaint rune]

Where can we get technical support for labs?

[eager oyster]

Nothing is matter 🤡

[mint cobalt]

honestly I don't even know if I did sign up or it bugged out when I tried earlier

[north yacht]

This is instead of EA playtesting?

[covert nest]

Yes.

[pure meteor]

please help me. I participated in the previous beta test of battlefield labs, but after it ended and the new one started, I can no longer access it through the EA library. The game has been removed from the library.

[pure meteor]

Is this normal or not?

[feral garden]

It is normal. You were added for the stress test, which was for a limited time only.

[severe anvil]

As BSoD says, if you were only invited for the 72 hour playtest it was limited to that specific weekend. If you were part of a different test and now have lost access you would've been removed from testing due to a violation (i.e. NDA break, inappropraiate behavior during the test, etc.)

[azure lake]

Thanks for clarifying here sir! Does the Labs team have plans to add additional players to the ongoing tests who were either part of the 72 hour playtest or not?

[indigo pebble]

so basicly heres a finger up the bum now off you tot

[severe anvil]

We have invited new players for each of the tests but there were a ton of signups. It requires a bit of luck to get in.

[cedar flax]

We'd know if we lost access right? Just waiting for next playtest, i did the 72h one and havent had anything since but just cross my fingers every day

[severe anvil]

If you were only invited for the 72 hour test then you lost access immediately after that, yep. Invited to Labs are different.

[cedar flax]

Shiiieeet is that something different I need to sign up for?

[severe anvil]

If you haven't signed up here yet, then yes. https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[cedar flax]

more ?

[wispy quest]

when is the next test?

[manic gate]

sounds like a mobile game

[severe anvil]

Tests are under NDA and are not discussed in the public Discord.

[muted pollen]

It would be better if there was a separate discord to talk about the labs.

[severe anvil]

Great idea.

[rugged seal]

[azure lake]

Got it. Thank you so much @severe anvil

[ember schooner]

ngl sounds like something that should have been a thing since labs conception as to be able to pass feedback more safely without violating the NDA. lol

[glad trench]

[cursive ridge]

the sarcasm is lost

[obtuse cairn]

When is the next test? I always seem to miss them

[sleek thunder]

[thin pulsar]

Oceania servers pls

[manic gate]

Antarctica servers pls

[versed token]

Moon server when?

[autumn adder]

subterranean server please

[tough zinc]

nevada test site server please

[graceful edge]

minsk servers please fr

[leaden kraken]

Mars servers please, the lag is insane from here

[empty wadi]

Need to know the dates prior.

[cursive ridge]

Moon server peak

[golden vortex]

Those server groups are too broad. 1 server for each local region in every country

[ruby merlin]

There is, for people who are only in Labs

[muted pollen]

I don't think so, because they would have sent it to whoever was selected

[rugged seal]

[ruby merlin]

Almost like they did

💀

[muted pollen]

As far as I know EA, they wouldn't do that

[fleet robin]

you clearly don't know ea

there have been a bunch of leaks from within the labs discord, it's public information now

[tepid plinth]

Oh wait you were serious

[nimble bridge]

DICE should add double jumping to the game

[versed token]

Why stop at just two jumps?

[golden vortex]

Flying is really the way to go

teleportation even

hell, why even shoot things at this point

[nimble bridge]

Double jumping, air dashing, wall bouncing, Super Battlefield 64

[golden vortex]

Battlefield Cart 64. Just forget the rest 😄

[nimble bridge]

[cedar flax]

"Now introducing ultra-realistic kart action! With the Circular DLC, you can experience the daring paths of a wide oval as you try to survive the bumps. Get in first or be left behind!"

[balmy plinth]

they do NOT have discords for discussing pre-alpha playtests. It's gonna be in the EA forums if anythign

which is a terrible outdated platform they should have upgraded years ago, but I digress

[tepid plinth]

They do

As mentioned before, the existence of it has been leaked many times

Sometimes accidentally from people in this server who think they can talk about it freely :/

[covert nest]

There should be a thing where they make you read the entire nda and have you recite say the 14th line.

[balmy plinth]

lol Doom49 deleted the photo of BF6 promo box... someone didn't read the letter

[tepid plinth]

This channel in a nutshell

[balmy plinth]

I mean I feel for the EA comms people, it's a bad industry to be in right now, it's a thankless job

Doesn't help when half of the creators you work with cannot read beyond a 5th grade level

[tepid plinth]

The number of people who come here and just refuse to read is rather astonishing

[balmy plinth]

gestures broadly that's gamers 🙂

[verbal crypt]

He’s being transported to Azkaban as we speak

[balmy plinth]

🫡

[fair summit]

If you really believe EA trusted people there wouldn't be leaks and nda is actually a thing you're out of your minds. This whole playtest is just teasing. A marketing strategy to increase the hype. If you really believe EA was like "nobody will share videos 👍 " you have no idea about anything

Thousand of people accessed it atleast once, "closed" lol

Its basically a beta which gives you a false feeling of exclusivity and privilege, so is the discord

I once had that bsod dude texting me in pm "I know people" cut he had a friend in the discord thats how brainwashed they made u

[ruby merlin]

Thats not true.

Announcements from devs in a discord have been leaked and its insinuating to there being a discord.

Public info at this point btw

[fleet robin]

what do you think closed means

the mental gymnastics people do are insane

ea would not waste this much time and effort faking playtests just for hype lmao

[glad trench]

I'll say it again, the cynicism is making them actively dumber. the pretzel logic they have to twist themselves through to make a dumb point is bewildering

the Labs can be both things at once...

a testing environment for DICE to get real data outside of a controlled environment (in person playtesting using the same PC's on the same network)

and a gesture of goodwill to the community + free, word of mouth marketing

[inland glacier]

Obvious bait

[odd pollen]

When your country is not supported for invites

[nimble bridge]

No need for an invite tbh if Tom H.'s sources are correct

[glad trench]

He still has sources

[young jetty]

If It’s from Tom Henderson, then
it’s correct simple.

[fair summit]

let me fix it: not-so-restricted

[fair summit]

Yes buddy the whole discord is aware we are all dumb and you're intelligent

[deft basalt]

just knowing what i know this makes me laugh so hard lol

some people just aren't able to trust anything so they need to make some stuff up just for it to make sense in thier brains as, whoo everyone is lying to us lol

[minor linden]

I don't doubt that EA is less strict about ndas because of marketing, but that's likely only because it got good feedback. If labs got bad feedback, they would've been a lot harsher with the punishments considering the fact that it's a legal contract that these people are breaking

And that would've shut many of the leakers up

[tiny violet]

Since they started promoting the game, I think a public alpha/beta is just around the corner.

[minor linden]

Would be cool if they dropped a public beta right after the big event

It most definitely isn’t happening, but it’d be cool

[feral garden]

I've not seen them promoting the game, where are people seeing this?

[tiny violet]

#battlefield-labs-discussion message
Since content creators got some promotional material already, it means, that soon ™️ EA will lift the embargo and we will see the material they've got. Most likely there will also be some official announcements (name reveal, maybe public beta, etc.).

[vale night]

When do they close the labs sign up?

[rugged seal]

they are still choosing people #battlefield-labs-discussion message

[tepid plinth]

No

[modest garnet]

Sadge

[minor linden]

(Apparently) people will be allowed to open them on the 24th

[indigo pebble]

pfft they already opend them

[young jetty]

The 31st is the reveal trailer also

[winter viper]

Those creators also broke their NDA by posting that lol

[fair summit]

crazy

[mellow oasis]

Are invite communications largely coming thru email? Anyone know the alias that invites come from? Just want to make sure my spam filters don’t push it out

[severe anvil]

Yes, solely via email. [e-mail] and I believe there's also [e-mail].

[mellow oasis]

Ty kind sir 🙇‍♂️

[balmy plinth]

Enough talking about BF, let's start talking about getting you a GF

[balmy plinth]

breaking embargo and then emailing your rep with the
🥺
👉 👈

[spare zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-again-colin-jost-saturday-night-live-another-time-impressed-gif-19002682

[minor linden]

Creators showcasing what dice sent them on the 24th

The trailer releasing the 31st

And then a possible open beta august 4th

They really are speeding up the hype train

[nimble bridge]

EA casually announced open beta before the game's name itself, even they don't care at this point

[cedar flax]

Beta could start as early as August 4th

[balmy plinth]

Pre-order page and release date just leaked 🤭

[cedar flax]

they did?

[balmy plinth]

not going to link to it here, but it appears so

[nimble bridge]

Can you DM me

[balmy plinth]

no sorry

[cedar flax]

Then ur lying

[glad trench]

Ya it’s not on Reddit and that would’ve been plastered all over it

[cedar flax]

would be all over twitter if it was true

[glad trench]

https://www.battlefieldone.net/post/signs-that-ea-has-no-confidence-in-their-upcoming-battlefield-6

[spare zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/false-facts-fake-news-gif-3718583105056900815

[glad trench]

I keep telling y’all, dumbest fanbase in gaming

[nimble bridge]

BF6 is a sign of confidence rather imo, if it was just BF and it was a reboot then I would say they aren't confident

[young jetty]

No it’s leaked on Reddit

[potent fjord]

[balmy plinth]

100 million people must play

[nimble bridge]

BF6 = Mainline, next installment
BF = We are rebooting, pwease play our game

[young jetty]

I’m ngl it doesn’t even matter, BF6 just looks like a better version of 2042.

[potent fjord]

where

[balmy plinth]

no no no it's not Skate 4 it's just skate.

[cedar flax]

i dont use that tbh

[glad trench]

Skate: Reborn

[inland glacier]

That’s a low bar however

[cedar flax]

send it me tho?

[young jetty]

That’s not a good thing imo

[cedar flax]

hopefully it turns out good, looks good so far

[inland glacier]

Maybe it shouldn’t be like 42 at all

[cedar flax]

dont think it will be

[inland glacier]

Depends

[minor linden]

Imo 2042 would’ve been fine if the changes they did to make 6 were done to it

• no specialists
• no 128 players
• no obnoxiously large maps
• more realism
• more class play

[fleet robin]

tbh yeah those were like the biggest complaints people had

[minor linden]

And, of course, no big game-breaking bugs

[minor linden]

Name it Battlefield 6 > everyone continues to call it bf6 and it’s seen as a return to the 2,3,4 style naming

Name it Battlefield > everyone just calls it BF2025 and it’s seen as a poor attempt at rebooting the series without even rebooting the series or story (iirc it’s still set in the 4 and 2042 timeline)

[nimble bridge]

I hope it's set in 4,2042 timeline

We might get 2143 one day since it's also connected

[steady robin]

@severe anvil When it comes to criticizing, everyone criticizes, but when it comes to praising, few praise. I was one who criticized and still criticizes Dice's decision to unlock weapons, but with today's announcement of making both modes available, it was an incredible decision. We'll see which one will be the community's favorite. Congratulations.

[minor linden]

I’m pretty sure there’s something in 2042’s logs thing that talks about a large war between NATO and a pmc

[timid estuary]

Had a weird dream they brought back the AC130 from 4…oh what a dream

[silver cedar]

Lock classes HELL F*CKING YES

[nimble bridge]

It's not locked

[silver cedar]

ITS BOTH

[nimble bridge]

Worst of both worlds

[silver cedar]

what ever man

[inland glacier]

Ok

[cedar flax]

best of both worlds

[glad trench]

I’m telling ya, when most people in the beta play with open weapons, it’s going to be an all time crash out for the vocal minority. While most people realize that their locked weapons really isn’t what made their favorite game what it was

[silver cedar]

Fr

[glad trench]

With that said, 1942 locked system or gtfo

Tired of all these BF3->BF1 tourists

[silver cedar]

Fr

[nimble bridge]

Well we will see, I would support locked weapons if they were truly locked like BF1-V but if you are going to make it as open as BF4 might as well completely make it open, signature weapons already gets a buff if you use them with their classes

[cedar flax]

i prefer open tbf

[obtuse cairn]

Play tests open every friday right?

[fleet robin]

nobody knows

[pale dew]

If should say, just check in every day

[severe anvil]

playtests are under NDA and are only announced to the playtesters.

[obtuse cairn]

@severe anvil i never get notifications or announcements for my self though

[severe anvil]

Well if you're not a playtester you wouldn't get the notifications.

[obtuse cairn]

I am

[balmy plinth]

brother it's all in your email

whitelist the playtest email / add it as a contact so it doesn't go to spam

[obtuse cairn]

I looked through all my emails, I think they messed up sending it to me

[severe anvil]

Did you participate in the 72 hour stress test? While Battlefield Labs participants were also playing during that, it was a separate stress test that didn't give access to Battlefield Labs.

[obtuse cairn]

I did and I "played" a short 2 hour test 2 weeks ago

[severe anvil]

How did you get the info about that test then? 😄

[balmy plinth]

I'm gonna call this one a "skill issue"

[obtuse cairn]

When I first signed up, it told me when the 72 hour was and the 2 hour test. I was just very lucky to top on labs when it was active.

[severe anvil]

What is the "it" that told you? I assume your email? Then you should make sure you read all the emails and check your junk folder for more info.

[fleet robin]

if you have an email, there's a playtest. If you don't have an email, there's not a playtest

[obtuse cairn]

Ah junk mail folder, I feel like a goober lol

[fleet robin]

rookie error damn

[minor linden]

Imo that depends on how they do it

If it’s automatically one and you have to turn a setting on to play the other, the automatic one will win 100% of the time because gamers are lazy

If it’s just two buttons next to each other, I feel like locked weapons will win purely do to the public consensus that locked weapons = bf

I’d prefer for both to stay. Idc about “splitting the community”

The balancing would be 2x harder though, so I can see why they wouldn’t keep them both

[proud pawn]

So what exactly is the reason people hate the open weapons? I personally like the idea so I can play the game my way

[inland glacier]

I think the idea is that you play into a particular role by restricting everything in the class, I think it’s less boring

[balmy plinth]

open weapons allows anyone to pick any class

[inland glacier]

Can’t rly be done if you only incentivize

[balmy plinth]

carrot / stick game design

[proud pawn]

classes are gadget based, cant use every gadget in every class

[balmy plinth]

same difference, usually locking a primary is more of a motivator than a gadget

[minor linden]

From what I can tell, it’s a mix of “every game besides the worst bf game in history had locked weapons” and the belief that it’s a mix of both weapons and gadgets that make up a class instead of just gadgets

[inland glacier]

Class would include everything in your disposal even including what you appear as

[fleet robin]

i prefer tight classes with specific roles and situations they thrive in, including weapon advantages and limitations. I also prefer the predictability of knowing what weapons to expect when facing a certain class. If you're pushing a recon you know they'll suffer at close range, if you're shooting at an engineer/medic you know they'll struggle at range, etc

[proud pawn]

I think the issue that people have with open weapons is the fact they dont want to see assault support and engineers with snipers. They can improve on the classes and make gadgets more useful. If people are worried about not playing the objective they could had a bonus score multiplier for playing objectives as a team and squad where players would only get the bonus by being in the objective area

[proud pawn]

I would agree to that but as someone who plays medic i dont want to be stuck with lmgs, i didnt like it in bc2

[nimble bridge]

Sniper engineers are fun ngl

[fleet robin]

i would also not like medic to be stuck with lmgs

[glad trench]

The average gamer doesn’t associate either locked or unlocked to BF

[minor linden]

Imo open weapons can work, but it’d be better pr-wise to say “hey, we listened unlike with 2042”

[fleet robin]

personally i wouldn't have medic as its own class anyway but i understand the assault problem

[nimble bridge]

Recon is still the best sniper class due to spawn beacon anyways

[proud pawn]

I think most people would agree that not making the classes more useful is the real problem

[glad trench]

Sniper in the best sniper class cuz of the sniper perks

[proud pawn]

I feel that the classes are watered down and dont force teamwork

[glad trench]

Reduced healing on body shots and no revives on headshots lmao

[nimble bridge]

Nah, I mean even in 2042, if you use Falck sniper and you die you have to go back to that position while recon can just spawn in there

[minor linden]

There is no sniper class. It’s called recon☝️🤓

[glad trench]

Sorry dad

[proud pawn]

I hate the fact there was only one box that gave both meds and ammo, thats laziness

[glad trench]

Why, one less box to worry about finding because teammates never drop that shit other than for themselves

[inland glacier]

Would that define the support class more

[proud pawn]

it should either be meds or ammo, not both....... medics heal support gives ammo

[inland glacier]

Ye support by providing meds and ammo aswell as cover fire/suppression with lmgs, I mean pretty sure that’s what they’re going for anyways

[proud pawn]

other than bc2 support was always ammo and assault was always medic other than bf2 and 1942 and 2142

[nimble bridge]

Combining both ammo and heals is a good change, support historically had low pick rates due to ammo not being essential

Even in BFV I would rather have 0 ammo for my primary but have 1 med pouch on me

[proud pawn]

thats why i liked the attrition system in bfv

[inland glacier]

Ironically assault looks to be more like assault now than a mix

[nimble bridge]

Well even in BFV it's not that important lol

[minor linden]

Yeah. It’s far more common to die before you run out of ammo

[inland glacier]

Cuz it was nerfed anyways lmao

[glad trench]

Also, supports in BF6 don’t have to choose supply crate, you can get one running offensive gadgets like mortar/airburst

[inland glacier]

Apparently teamwork can be too much

[proud pawn]

it is for those that dont die much and run out of ammo

[glad trench]

So, an all in one crate is way more reliable for everyone else on the team

[nimble bridge]

You only run out of ammo if you are using LMGs for suppressive fire

Every other class can get half a mag from a dead enemy

[glad trench]

Who runs out of ammo in BFV? Run over a dead body or hit a resupply station

[proud pawn]

i ran out of ammo killing people lol

[inland glacier]

Well we don’t even know the situation with attrition rn

[nimble bridge]

Non existent for infantry afaik

[proud pawn]

medics are useless with health regen and according to @nimble bridge support is useless because there is too much ammo

[nimble bridge]

Support change is good imo overall, one crate for both health and ammo, assault should've been dedicated infantry farmer class but they decided to take away medpen's healing capabilities 😂 They should revert that back immediately because no one will use assault

[nimble bridge]

Medics are incredibly useful in every BF game, support isn't, which is why that change is good

[proud pawn]

or move medic to assault class

[nimble bridge]

Best weapons and best gadget in one class?

[proud pawn]

always been that way bf3 bf4 bf2 bfv bf1

[nimble bridge]

And it's broken

Leads to most people playing as assault

[proud pawn]

not really, if you have good squad members you would be hard to stop

most people play recon lol

[nimble bridge]

Not at all

[glad trench]

What were the best gadgets in BFV and BF1?

[nimble bridge]

Medic's infinite self heal of course

[minor linden]

If it has a balanced cooldown or must be replenished like rocket launcher ammo, then I’d be fine with it

Closed weapons does kinda solve this issue though since it’d mean assault would have the best weapons but mediocre gadgets

[nimble bridge]

Assault will be worse than an engineer or a support even with locked weapons

[glad trench]

And what were the best weapons? In BF1 and BFV?

[proud pawn]

fliegerfaust and c4 bf1

[glad trench]

Zero chance with the leaked assault spec talents

[nimble bridge]

Carbines are open for everyone, might as well use support with a carbine with infinite self heal instead of an assault with an AR

[proud pawn]

or just open weapons up so i can cod no scope as support lol

[inland glacier]

Good point

[nimble bridge]

Support snipers are useless anyways, lacks the spawn beacon of recon

[minor linden]

The fact that carbines even exist make me think that the original plan was locked weapons. Or, at least, a test for locked weapons

There’s no need for carbines in an open system when they’re basically just a bad in-between of ARs and SMGs

[nimble bridge]

That was pre medpen nerf, we don't know the current assault perks, if assault lacks self healing it will be most useless class

[proud pawn]

support class with one crate that drops ammo and meds = op class when someone wants to camp

[glad trench]

Recon sniper hits support sniper with a body shot… support sniper can no longer heal

[nimble bridge]

Then kills that support, so that support has to go back to his camping position

Instead of spawning on spawn beacon

[inland glacier]

They’ll most likely be good thou, good way to incentivize team play lol

[glad trench]

In either system, engineer hits sniper with rocket. Both snipers die

[proud pawn]

support player with unlimited ammo/meds + c4 or claymores =op

[glass bloom]

Pretty sure it was faster sprint-to-aim speed or something
Unless you’re talking about something else

[nimble bridge]

Support will be OP unless they gave assault's medpen back

[minor linden]

I can’t wait to see how people’s opinions change when they actually play the game in the open beta

[proud pawn]

i was actually worried about movement speeds

it felt too slow and sluggish

[inland glacier]

Perhaps the map design enables that

[nimble bridge]

I never played in pre alpha so I have no idea how it will feel like

[inland glacier]

But idk

[nimble bridge]

If it's bad I will dunk on it though 😂

[inland glacier]

I think it should feel intuitive thou like in bfv maybe

[proud pawn]

im used to the bfv bf2042 and cod wz movement speeds

bfv movement is my favorite

[inland glacier]

I like how slide transitions seamlessly into crouch sprint, doesn’t rly make sense to not do that.

[proud pawn]

lowkey im actually excited for the battleroyal

[tall urchin]

From the leaked footage I've seen the movement looks like BF1 but with even more reticle sway. Any movement and your sight misaligns like crazy.

Guess enough people sent in mail to DICE about getting schmooved on in 2042.

[proud pawn]

it felt way too slow

[versed token]

Doubt many of em even played 2042

[proud pawn]

from what i saw i couldnt tell difference between sprinting and normal running

[nimble bridge]

What if they copied Halo Infinite's sprint and made it only 10% faster than walking 😂

[versed token]

It probably is only marginally faster

[nimble bridge]

I hope we can give feedback on it after the beta ends.

[proud pawn]

i doubt they will see it

[nimble bridge]

I never gave feedback for previous BF betas but I will for this one.

[versed token]

I hope people give feedback now in the alpha about it being too slow

[nimble bridge]

Not if they give us a survey though

[proud pawn]

im hoping this game wont flop, but the track record says otherwise

[balmy plinth]

inshallah we will hit 100 million player

[cedar flax]

people shouldnt look at past games imo, past is the past. completely new game

[inland glacier]

Huh?

[versed token]

Same energy as we shouldn't learn history

[balmy plinth]

good vibes only, ignore the massive company that always manages to get it wrong

[inland glacier]

Or learn from our mistakes

[cedar flax]

hopefully the BR mode is good

[boreal harbor]

It's gonna be an optional, separate mode imo, at least that's what I'm speculating, I just want a good/great SP and great core multi-player for this new Battlefield game

[cedar flax]

ye, i heard its gonna be free too

[boreal harbor]

I'm going to avoid it, and focus on the singleplayer and multi-player 💯.

[glad trench]

A good or great SP in BF? Lmao

[cedar flax]

graphics wise are great in BF games in SP

[manic gate]

the bar is low tbf

Or lack of which, like 2042

[minor linden]

The sp will likely either be extremely unfinished or it’ll have to be released after the game releases

It’s like 2 years behind 💀

[boreal harbor]

I strongly disagree, but to each his own.

[glad trench]

Mate if you’re expecting anything other than mid SP, I have a bridge to 2042 to sell you

[minor linden]

If you don’t trust the sources that say this, that’s fine. I’m just stating a fact that some insider sources have stated that the sp is 2 years behind since most of the old team’s work was completely unusable after ea shut the studio down

[boreal harbor]

I was kinda on the copium/hopium train tbh, I wish they would delay the game so that it can be released as a complete product that's well-optimized. @glad trench

[minor linden]

Eh. Imo Sp is less important than getting it out before gta 6

[boreal harbor]

Understandable, but you don't think GTA 6 will be delayed again?

[fair summit]

again? no way

[weak obsidian]

announcing different servers for open and locked weapons before the offical reveal funny af

this is all a ploy to distract everyone from the server browser ...

[nimble bridge]

We probably won't get that besides for portal

[weak obsidian]

it's a shame really

2042 matchmaking is awful and I don't want to go back

[nimble bridge]

We definitely need persistent servers even if we aren't getting back server browser

Also no bots in multiplayer unless it's portal or something

[weak obsidian]

apparently persistent servers are a BF pro perk

[nimble bridge]

No I mean like you matchmaked to a game, game ends and instead of you being sent back to main menu you are waiting for next map to load on the rotation

[weak obsidian]

oh yeah

that's not gonna happen for regular MM 😭

finding anything outside of 64 conquest is impossible in my region, hopefully the MM in 6 allows for cross region

[tepid plinth]

If we don’t get a map selector at least and the maps aren’t great I might just lose it

[minor linden]

I guess we know one of the first things to give feedback about during the open beta if it isn't there

We, at least, need persistent servers. Matchmaking without them is aids cause you can join a server 1 second away from losing and get immediately kicked back to the matchmaker

[nimble bridge]

If we are getting a map selector might as well just give us a server browser

[nimble bridge]

That's also needed, allow us to choose our region from settings if we aren't getting a server browser

[weak obsidian]

playing low population games in oceania is the worst

[minor linden]

You don't like 1v1ing the only other person in your region on conquest large?

[weak obsidian]

I love getting "waiting for 5/8 players"

[maiden willow]

Did I miss news on the new Battlefield? I saw the tweet about the playlists and it says open beta so I'm like did I miss more news?! Idk why open beta being mentioned before the Reveal is throwing me off so much 😭

[minor linden]

🤷 They probably just wanted to get the hype train going before the reveal

[nimble bridge]

I fear BF6 will lack the aura of 2042

[weak obsidian]

aura?

[glad trench]

No tornados

[weak obsidian]

😭

crazy marketing gimmick

[minor linden]

Tornado + Actual destruction physics would go crazy

[tall urchin]

A good FPS with solid mechanics, performance, and has an actual skill ceiling would be even crazier.

[young jetty]

Is that even a question?

[nimble bridge]

Soundtrack

[young jetty]

BF6 is better than 2042 100%

But it’s not better than BF3/4/BC2/1.

[minor linden]

The 2042 soundtrack was good, but it didn't match the game

[tall urchin]

It had a soundtrack?

[nimble bridge]

https://youtu.be/Z6YZhgipseU
https://youtu.be/6OYBwGatp0U
https://youtu.be/9Mao_hAm5L8

[fair summit]

I wish I removed my eyes before reading this

[coral siren]

[brazen tinsel]

The harsh dark industrial soundtrack matched the dark lore and storyline of the game, bf2042 could've easily been the grittiest battlefield since BF1 but they HAD to go in the operators and cod movement style direction

[minor linden]

Well yeah. They probably showed the music composer the lore without any gameplay footage

[verbal crypt]

I want 10+ random tornadoes to spawn every match. Sometimes we can have 4 at one time from all directions

[tepid plinth]

The music was pretty nice, but after the emotional highs of V and 1s I can definitely understand, and mostly followed in, its distaste

Having an emotional shift of uplifting and heartbreaking orchestral to dire and dreary electric crackle was a shock to the system

[weak obsidian]

the soundtrack of 2042 is probably the part of the game that best represented the lore

[tepid plinth]

Yuh

The coal hauling one was one of the only ones I recall liking before launch

[brazen tinsel]

She also composed the Chernobyl soundtrack so that really shows

[tepid plinth]

And the last poirot film which was a surprise to see

A pretty naff film but seeing the name had me doing the funny point picture

The absolute one thing I miss that I desperately want back is that calm but eerie orchestral spawn screen music.

After a hectic fight, dying and then observing the battlefield from the top down with the Sinai desert theme playing angelically was just god tier stuff

[young jetty]

Uhm no it wasn’t even close to being gritty at all.

“WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE”

[brazen tinsel]

See this is what happens when people can't read

[tepid plinth]

Emphasis on ‘could have’

[ebon beacon]

one crappy ad

[young jetty]

Still my point exact

[tepid plinth]

Well the quote you cited came from one of the specialists, which wouldn’t exist in this theoretical state mentioned, so it’s kind of a moot statement

[versed token]

Brother doesn't know they removed all those lines

[young jetty]

I don’t care, 2042 will forever be known as a watered down version of what battlefield is

[versed token]

Of course you don't care about facts

[brazen tinsel]

Well, yeah, I'm envisioning an alternate reality where bf2042 didn't have operators, or crazy movement; the mission briefings, insertion flows, dark soundtrack, could've made the game much more serious than it is. If they tone down the saturation it'll definitely be alongside BF3 or BF4, hell it'll be more gritty than BF3 or BF4 and definitely more than BFV

[weak obsidian]

chill out ..

[tepid plinth]

Solution;

Blue

And lots of it

Everywhere

Constant blue filter

[versed token]

It was a totally reasonable reaction

[hexed aspen]

What's the general thought on locked/unlocked weapons in here

[tall urchin]

Personally I don't think it hinders any aspect of gameplay and actually assists data collection on class and weapon balance.

[inland glacier]

Might aswell lock em

Make battlefield more like battlefield by implementing this battlefield feature that has been the core ever since the inception of battlefield

It’ll prolly be more inherently balanced thou

[ebon beacon]

Couldn't care leas if it's lock or not cuz either way I'm still gonna going to farm some kills

[scenic owl]

can we get a woot woot for the reveal?

[hexed aspen]

Woot woot 💯💯

[scenic owl]

i didn't think we'd get the reveal until like next year

[nimble bridge]

Personally I prefer locked weapons if they are truly locked with no universals, makes each class distinct. If it's wishy washy like BF4 then I dislike it, might as well unlock them.

[nimble bridge]

BF4 is less balanced than 2042 imo

[weak obsidian]

assault fest

[inland glacier]

Prolly be either way but who knows

[nimble bridge]

It will be support fest unless they give back medpen to assault

[scenic owl]

bf4 infantry is mostly coked out bf4 vets, bunny hopping with AEK's or FAMAS

sweating their body's worth for the highest kd

[ebon beacon]

That's just Battlefield in general

[tall urchin]

FPS in general, multiplayer FPS has always existed to be competitive inherently.

[ebon beacon]

Truth nuke

[tall urchin]

Hell, even when FPS weren't multiplayer you still had people speed running Doom for better times

[ebon beacon]

And with BF6 potentially have different gun builds man, can't wait to min max it

[scenic owl]

"no fun only win"

[ebon beacon]

Yeah cuz winning isn't fun...

[nimble bridge]

Fun for me is farming the entire enemy team

[ebon beacon]

Going on a killstreak isn't fun either...

[nimble bridge]

Sometimes meme playstyles are fun though, such as Commando Carbine/Welrod in BFV or Ghostmaker in 2042 😂

[glad trench]

Raptor rifle in 2042

Or making snipers rage quit using the railgun

[ebon beacon]

Welrod in BFV and Mere's Leg in BF4

[weak obsidian]

its always funny when people complain about the "crazy" movement in 2042 when BF4 had people slingshotting themselves around corners

[nimble bridge]

How is Welgun a meme playstyle though?

[ebon beacon]

Welrod the single action pistol

[nimble bridge]

Oh okay lol

I made the same mistake 😂

[ebon beacon]

Hell even BF3 had jump shooting too

LMAO

[nimble bridge]

Jump boosting and gazelle jumping too

[minor linden]

Meres leg is legit useful tho. It basically gives you a mini sniper as a secondary if you set it up right

[weak obsidian]

well

get ready for BF1 movement 😈

[ebon beacon]

More of a G-18 or CZ-45

[ebon beacon]

Sure like BF6 has BF1 movement and can't jump shoot base on the leaks

Jump peeking is still viable and so is sliding in BF6 plus with gunssmith you can min max weapons

Get 100+ kills

[weak obsidian]

min maxxing weapons suckkkk

customization should just be mainly preference based

[ebon beacon]

Suit yourself

[nimble bridge]

I personally hate gunsmithing but since they made it I will abuse it

No recoil, max RPM, max strafe speed 😂

[ebon beacon]

Same gonna ready for it especially on vehicles too with the Littlebird and Jet

[weak obsidian]

it's just annoying for weapon balancing

especially when you include TTK changing attachments

[ebon beacon]

That's just FPS in general although if there's one thing I agree is that attachments that affects TTK shouldn't exist

[weak obsidian]

looking at the ammo attachments 💀

[ebon beacon]

Especially the changes the amount of Headshot required

Velocity, penetration and recoil sure

[weak obsidian]

welcome back MW19 ttk

[tall urchin]

Give BF6 more movement, less reticle sway, 5BTK instead of 4, no bullet types that affect headshot multipliers, add spread. Crazy we already learned so many of these mistakes in 2042 and the footage shows us repeating so many

[ebon beacon]

Facts especially spread and less reticle sway even BF4 and BF3 has less reticle sway hell might as well include BFV

[weak obsidian]

from the latest playtest footage most ARs are 5 btk

[tall urchin]

I haven't checked any as of late since the reticle bouncing made me sick to my stomach

[tall urchin]

Yeah, laser guns in 2042 sucked so bad. LMGs especially became ridiculous.

[ebon beacon]

Fr getting beamed from 100m is ridiculous

But I partially blame it on the maps as well

[tall urchin]

Also made roller insanely effective at range with the reduced FSM, horizontal, and vertical recoil.

Maps definitely didn't help, you're right. Way too little cover, way too long sight lines, and way too much verticality.

[minor linden]

Idk why so many people are against spread. It’s just a way to prevent guns from having insane engagement distances without turning the bullets to dust at X meters

It’s not even that hard to learn to control too

[tall urchin]

It's even stranger because the people I see who are adamant we shouldn't have spread are the people who want locked weapons. No point in worrying about weapon types per class when every weapon becomes the same as long as you mitigate recoil.

[glad trench]

Depends on what range? Cuz that leaked footage of the new recoil had most ARs doing 25+ damage out to like 30m

[ebon beacon]

I blame Suppression cuz people are thinking during gunfights when they missed but it's actually the Suppression that affects it which is awful

Plus in BF3 and especially BF4 you got Stubby + H-Barrel that reduces spread alot

[minor linden]

Could be one of the reasons, yeah. There’s also the factor where people think that anything slightly detrimental to their aiming is the reason they’re losing even though everyone else has to deal with it too

[tall urchin]

Also strangely enough a lot of those people to have low accuracy and just try to scapegoat spread when even without it their reticle wasn't lined up.

[ebon beacon]

At least we're not dealing with Suppression anymore

And just visual only

[weak obsidian]

I think those were headshots

[minor linden]

Anyone have any ideas on what games they could add to the new portal? I doubt they’d do the same ones as 2042’s unless they just transfer those over and add new ones on top of it.

IMO HL has to be in there because of its unique theming. Idk what other games they could “remaster” though

[weak obsidian]

I think a BF4 map got leaked

[feral gale]

im just saying for the up coming BF open beta, im playing the playlist for no weapon lock

[minor linden]

Ok? I’m going to be swapping between them to see which one I like, but feel free to do whatever you want

[ebon beacon]

BF Vietnam would be cool but Portal needs a massive rework cuz the amount of XP Farm/Bot servers and 100000% DMG Afghan Milsim is atrocious

[glad trench]

DECLARE YOUR ALLEGIANCE

[ebon beacon]

Like I would rather have 24/7 Metro or Caspian servers than these

[feral gale]

https://tenor.com/view/greasestain-woody-dap-up-dapping-toy-story-gif-16829324021208675735

ah no embed

[glad trench]

More BC2 rush maps making a comeback please. Especially with some renewed love being put into Rush

[rugged seal]

It would be best if its like a 3 day beta initially with 1 day being unlocked, 1 day locked, and the final day 2 different playlists

[minor linden]

Yeah. I feel like there’s going to be a ton of people instantly choosing one side without even trying the other

[rugged seal]

Thats how all the arguments go already

[feral gale]

yeah i can agree with this

[minor linden]

Though, tbf, a lot of locked people will use the class weapons in unlocked anyways so I don’t think it’d change too much

[rugged seal]

Class selection variety.

Gadget usage rates per class.

Weapon selection variety.

Players revived, vehicles destroyed/repaired, etc.

A reddit post had these as things that should be looked at more than just the number of people that play

[proven sand]

why cant i get to the page that shows every avaible playtest

[nimble bridge]

Those aren't mistakes of 2042 but rather BFV tbh

Both BFV and 2042 had light bolt/shortened barrel though which gave higher ROF instead of higher damage, but achieved similar TTK to headshot bullets

[nimble bridge]

BF3 and 4 had equally open maps, if not more open. Spread just allows you to not get beamed across the map in full auto. Issue of 2042 is lack of spread. Even when playerbase hates it they don't understand how it limits engagement distances.

[nimble bridge]

They shouldn't add games to portal, it's a waste of time and effort to recreate old classes, weapons, vehicles etc. We should get regular map remakes if they want to do that. Weapons, classes, vehicles of portal should be lifted from BF6 itself.

[nimble bridge]

Beta should be a week long similar to BF1 beta imo

[ebon beacon]

Yeah but BF3 had good open maps and also why include BF4 maps when most of them are mid

All in all yeah, spread does help

[feral gale]

all my homies playing the unlocked weapons playlist

[feral garden]

Ill probably play locked (Even tho I dont mind either)...as its a better recipe for the success of this game IMO

[spice bramble]

You guys think there will be any official news today, considering it's Tuesday and that they just dropped a Beta bomb with no prior notice

Not that there's much to ask for knowing Beta is coming, but maybe a teaser or something

[crimson moss]

Because im based i will play both to actually see how the game plays and say it doesnt matter in the end anyway because theres no difference in gameplay anyway

[rotund pier]

My only fear with the closed weapon system is that it’s a different playlist

We know BF players can’t read at all, we’ve seen them break the NDA here about a thousand times

They’ll probably just play whichever playlist shows up first on the screen, and that’s probably going to be the open weapons one

[spice bramble]

They have to add an in game poll for the locked/unlocked weapon preference

[tepid plinth]

this essentially is the poll

[indigo pebble]

tbd if they have a portal mode you can search for a server with them all unlocked anyway

[feral garden]

People are naive to think they will do anything like "Which ever mode has more players will be chosen."

Even tho I sit on the fence weapons wise, I still believe that locked signatures is more healthy for the core game and how the game/studios are viewed by players.

Locked signatures is closer to open weapons than it is to locked weapons (As it was in BF1). Its a good compromise.

[versed token]

I'd be fine with only locked signature weapons

[feral garden]

Thats how the beta test will be it seems

[versed token]

But i bet many want even more limited selection for the classes

[feral garden]

No bolt action on support, so its solves the most major issue with unlocked weapons!!!!

/s

[versed token]

[scenic owl]

speculation time

what song do you guys think the reveal trailer will use?

[rugged seal]

crazy frog

[scenic owl]

that would beat bf1's reveal trailer

[tepid plinth]

The only thing they fear is you

[scenic owl]

wrong game but close enough

or are you saying that Mick Gordon will do the score for the next Battlefield

[spice bramble]

By this do you mean that they already have the option in mind and this is just a placebo, or that they will use a different metric? Just wanting to clarify

[tepid plinth]

definitely

I am his best friend and he says he would

[feral garden]

I mean they will use data from a large amount of things to decide the direction to proceed in. Things like

• Class distribution between playlists
• Weapon distribution between playlists
• Player engagement/retention after playing on either playlist (Did more players stop playing after paying one playlist or the other)

[spice bramble]

Oh, makes sense.

[feral garden]

From leaks, we can also see that they have a "Did you enjoy this match YES/NO" question at the end of games. Player happiness in this respect can also be measured from playlist to playlist

[tepid plinth]

they axed 128 breakthrough cause it wasn't being played, and added the other modes cause they were being played a fair bit so it's clear they do look at that stuff regardless

[spice bramble]

There should specifically be a poll for "Did you like X/Y mode more?" as a sort of reassuring metric

Not as a make or break type poll, of course

[feral garden]

Its kind of an unecessary question, but they will probably ask it. What you played more is what you enjoyed more tho. Players arent going to continue to play a mode they arent enjoying.

[spice bramble]

Well, yes, however the controversy is specifically around the weapons being UNLOCKED, so I'd imagine people would spend more time playing UNLOCKED mode just to really put the arguments to a test (arguments as in whether unlocked really is that bad and experiment). This would require some brain usage, though, which most players lack...

And I'm inclined to believe some diehard "locked weapons" fans won't give the other a glance and just try to enjoy the most out of the beta

[feral garden]

Which is kind of the point of doing this, and why they 100% wont just select the mode with more players/playertime

[spice bramble]

Idk, they won't have it easy

Although the safer decision is locking them

[feral garden]

It also depends on how they digest the data

Subjectively, a player who only plays the open weapons playlist, and only uses 1 weapon on every class they play...would tell ME that the open system is not the optimal system.

But that could be digested in a variety of ways. Maybe they want better class distribution, and dont necesarily care about weapon distribution much. So the above would be good for their desired player experience

[spice bramble]

I'm too dull to get into this data digestation thing

Rule of the thumb is though, your average gamer will choose the most optimal loadout in either gamemode

[tepid plinth]

whatever offers the least restriction tends to be the usual play

[spice bramble]

Meh, I think it'll end in unlocked weapons

[feral gale]

i dont think unlocked weapons are that bad

[spice bramble]

I'm honestly apathetic to it

[feral gale]

i never played the older BF's back then (i was grinding bo1 zombies on my ps3) but playing the older bf's more recently and other games that has locked weapons, i dont mind both tbh but i do lean more to unlocked bc i like switching weapons a lot when bored

[spice bramble]

Can be either, won't ruin the game for me

It doesn't even concern me considering I can't run the game on my PC xdd

[inland glacier]

Locked seems interesting

[cedar flax]

Hate launching battle field labs and there being no servers or play button available 😭

[inland glacier]

But maybe people will be pulled by the freedom of choice regardless

[feral garden]

Loves breaking their NDA tho

[tepid plinth]

Maybe that’s why

[crimson moss]

💀

[kindred haven]

having a unified system where weapons are tied to classes: ❌

having another option or even multiple to needing to filter in the server browser: ✅

i think ill just stick to dfho, they got this shit down first try after not maiking something that rivals bf for years

whats the incentive to have classes, if they dont have specific weapons?

bro 5 games and they just cant do it right is crazy, like this is the most surface decision about this game, and they dant even so it right, guess they need data but from the beta they will get enough not sure what beta they are talking about when the game was supposed to come to early access

[autumn adder]

giving classes buffs for weapon groupd while keeping the system open is worse than just having them open...

[kindred haven]

if any dice player played bf4 rn, they wpuld notice that the servers have strict rules for some of the classes, only letting a number of player pick sniper for example this is the most significant chance for bf to still stay true to what it is, and how its balanced or if the fortnitification and cod magic will take over

but im sure in a month after launch transformer crossover with bumble bee as a car varient

[inland glacier]

Would they still have those signature buffs for the locked playlist I wonder

[tepid plinth]

I’m guessing so

[inland glacier]

Prolly

Would that be necessary idk

[tepid plinth]

More incentive to use those weapons over the ones that I assume will be universal to all

But they are still nice bonuses to have

[inland glacier]

Well, if it’s balanced..

[nimble bridge]

I'm not tbh, because I played BF4 just recently. SMGs are entirely useless in that game

[nimble bridge]

BF4's ''no explosives, no shotguns, no snipers'' servers aren't the reality of how those games were meant to be played, people do those because BF4's balance is 💩

Or lacks critical qol features that would make them a non issue

[kindred haven]

only an issue on hardcore servers

[nimble bridge]

They are banned on regular servers too

Shotguns can one hit you from 20 meters in BF4, snipers are usually a non issue no idea why people ban them, explosive spam is something that could easily be fixed with a trophy system or sending back grenades which BF4 lacks

[glad trench]

A bunch of reason as spelled out in the most recent blog

[vocal axle]

You, arguing over whether weapons should be class locked:

Me, arguing that weapons should be faction locked, and distributed in accordance with a nine-man US Army rifle squad:

[silk trench]

ew. go play squad

[vocal axle]

A good idea from a good game? Incomprehensible!

But also, you know, Battlefield used to be like this (minus squads)

[silk trench]

faction locked weapons are ok. but the squad restrictions are boring

[tender bay]

Just please someone tell us we’re added server browser in both sides 😭

[kindred haven]

for me if they dont do class locked weapons, im kinda giving up on this game, no point in hoping its gonna be good if the very foundation the last few games relied on gets killed

no point in classes if they dont have something that makes them unique enough

they wanna make open classes so they can make predatory microdlc for class cosmetics

in bf4 you know which is the sniper and which is the medic, but they wanna sell microdlc for cosmetics

[silk trench]

exept everyone could still run a carbine or dmr or shotty. it makes literally 0 difference if its locked or not

[kindred haven]

it does

[silk trench]

in what way

[kindred haven]

sniper is way more potent on longer ranges than a dmr, hence the need for a sniper class is still required

[silk trench]

so?. now if the sniper picks a LMG he just cant do long range. you're still going to pick the class for the situation in BF4 now you just pick the gun instead

[kindred haven]

sniper doesent have lmg

[silk trench]

in BF6 it does lmao

[kindred haven]

yeah thats the issue, thats why the game is so talked about rn

[silk trench]

thats not an issue

[kindred haven]

it is, there is no need for classes if every class can take every weapon

[silk trench]

its the same thing as swapping from sniper class to gunner in bf4. what difference does it make if you swapp class or gun? its the same end result

[silk trench]

gadgets and proficiency

[kindred haven]

theres no gunner in bf4 its called support

[silk trench]

name is irrelevant for the example

[kindred haven]

no because the class defines the role you play when you play the game

[silk trench]

still does. becaus the class is identified by its gadgets 90% of the time

[kindred haven]

if you play sniper you arent gonna be on the front resing someone you are far back taking shots

if you play engineer you go and destroy vehicles etc

[silk trench]

yes you are. id pick sniper and a carbine just for the spawn beacon

[kindred haven]

see the issue

[silk trench]

this is still the case with unlocked weapons, a MG is not killing a armored vehicle

[silk trench]

this was a thing in BF4

[mossy marten]

Battlefield 6 reveal trailer on the 24th

[kindred haven]

blinded by the hype

[silk trench]

blinded by unc nostalgia

[kindred haven]

i just wanna see it at this point if support has defib im done

[kindred haven]

bor the finals has better class structure than bf6 rn

[silk trench]

cool. go play it then

[kindred haven]

i am

go play cod then if classes is too much for you, his toes curl back from arma

[feral gale]

all my homies are playing the unlocked weapon playlist during open beta

[silk trench]

last cod game ive played was MW2019 and i have more hours on Arma 3 than cod lol

[quartz iris]

Does anyone how to get into the playtest because it’s pretty confusing to me

[rotund pier]

the art for the trailer is absolute fire ngl

[silk trench]

wait till you figure out you can have a sniper AND a rocket launcher in arma. class stucture in shambles

Arma unironically has less restriction than COD

[glass bloom]

HOLY SHIT

[verbal crypt]

Just remember if you pre order you’re a certified smooth brain

[radiant heath]

lol less restriction in arma also comes with using any of it requiring way more steps. BF players would be pissed if they had to get a vehicle and read a map just to get to an objective

[silk trench]

dont pre-order if youre a certified brokie

[safe moat]

And even IF you are actually gonna pre order, do it AFTER the Open Beta happens

[tall urchin]

Money for a game is fleeting, disappointment with a bad game is forever

[safe moat]

So you actually see what you are gonna get

[silk trench]

what difference does it make if i pay for it before release since im going to buy it anyways and make my own decision whether its good or bad

[silk trench]

you can cancel at any point so makes no differnce

[verbal crypt]

Did this man just say the work brokie lmfao. Testosterone levels under 300 confirmed

[safe moat]

Yea, but atleast see what product you will get before pre ordering instead of doing it blind

[radiant heath]

obviously live your life, but if a movie director kept putting out half-finished movies and then fixing em later, i probably wouldn't buy tickets to the next movie ahead of release

because it signals its fine to release half-finished movies to fix later

[silk trench]

except id rather make that conclusion myself rather than listening to others opinions

[pulsar osprey]

yeah, guys, do not preorder.

[radiant heath]

hence the live your life part, but you asked what the difference was so i explained it

[pulsar osprey]

the game won't suddenly get legs and run away.

but enjoy the hype.

[silk trench]

but it makes no difference in the end since im going to buy it either way and make my own decision its not like it costs more

[radiant heath]

i just explained the difference, i can't also understand it for you

[silk trench]

your difference only applies if you only listen to what others think and don't make decisions for yourself

[radiant heath]

but you asked what others think lmao, by asking what the difference is

[silk trench]

like for example, my friend does not like monster hunter and thinks its a bad game, if i listened to him and didn't buy it based on his opinion id never have played my favorite game series

[radiant heath]

obviously pre-order it if it makes ya happy, that's what games are for is having a good time

[silk trench]

i asked what difference does it make if i pre order or not since im going to buy it either way. i didnt ask what you're implying

[glad trench]

Snipers get bodied by DMRs within an realistic engagement range. Snipers outside a dmr range provide nothing for your team

Hysterics over bolt actions is the biggest tell tale sign you’re just bad

[radiant heath]

yeah! the difference is the message that sends to the publisher, that you as a buyer vote to give them your money without verifying the completion of the game. whereas not preordering does the opposite

[silk trench]

the end result is the same tho?........ i'm going to buy it and see for myself if i like it no one else can make that decision for me

[radiant heath]

the end result is the same for you, not necessarily for the company 🙂

to be clear i'm not telling you what to do, just answering what you asked

[feral garden]

Why do you hate the company, who spends hundreds of millions making a game many of us want to play/have succeed?

[silk trench]

i get that. im just saying it makes no difference if they get my money on the 12th of august or the 24th of august they're getting it either way

[radiant heath]

what

[silk trench]

no ones hating on anything here

we're just discussing pre-orders

[feral garden]

why does it matter if its changes things for the company (EA) tho

[silk trench]

and if anyones hating on anything it should be the shareholders

[radiant heath]

i suppose from your point of view yeah. the movie director analogy here is apt illustration of the difference. i will say i preordered 2042 and felt like in doing so, i communicated to EA that I was willing to give them money without verifying they were releasing a finished product. This time myself and seemingly many others are waiting to verify, and it's leading to things like Battlefield Labs and pre-release development updates

[tepid plinth]

Ooo that’s a nice surprise

[radiant heath]

so i'm happy with my decision, but i'm not gonna hate on anyone else for theirs

[silk trench]

this is the way to go about it. everyone should make their own decision and not be hated on for some silly thing like pre ordering

[feral gale]

i think its fair to question pre orders with EA and battlefield, as their cinematic team can make anything look good and idk how they cook so hard but even with that and with how the gaming sphere has been pre orders are 50/50

[radiant heath]

yeah. i'm fine with the constant "don't preorder!!" conversation because it does generate solid discussion. but i see people being verbally attacked for saying essentially that they've seen enough and are ready to buy it and i think that's super lame to treat people like that lol

[manic gate]

I mean impactful change can only happen through pushing for it but yeah let people spend their money how they like.

[feral garden]

Your messages (To me) allude to you you thinking pre-orders are bad. They can be 100%, but im my case (and others) they are gonna buy the game anyway. So its hardly a bad thing to have EA able to report things like "Record pre-orders for the Battlefield Franchise" or such to shareholders. It just means the franchise will continue to be funded.

Additionally, this game is a VERY different case, as most of us have already seen dozens/hundreds of hours of gameplay

[radiant heath]

me? @feral garden just making sure i'm following ya here

[deft basalt]

Exactly this

[feral garden]

No real serious target, just chiming in lol

[radiant heath]

aye aye capn, i don't necessarily disagree with ya

[fresh moat]

Will there be more performance play tests with people who signed up for Labs?

Before launch

[feral garden]

Well they announced an open beta (No date for it yet) yesterday

[silk trench]

but unless you try it yourself how can you decide what "impactfull" change is? do you trust everyone elses opinion about it?

[fresh moat]

Yeah. Wonder for how long it will last. And if they then need still more input before launch

[radiant heath]

i'm HYPE for a beta. i'm gonna get some friends that don't really play battlefield on it with me and some friends that do, and see how the game feels with friends

[tepid plinth]

So, I guess 6 is its real name

[fresh moat]

Yes

[silk trench]

i really hope they add more Chinese guns before launch. their modern firearms are really cool only having the QBZ-191 is sad

[manic gate]

tbf 2042 was titled 'Battlefield' and 'Battlefield 6' in its trailers before premiere

[radiant heath]

i wonder why they named it Battlefield 6 when something like "Battlefield 14 (XIV): Not Hardline, Bad Company, XX42, Heroes, or Vietnam Just a Regular One" would have been so much more descriptive

[manic gate]

there is still chance for it to be called Bad Company 3

[silk trench]

that'd require a camping with bad 2000's humor

[fresh moat]

They literally announced the reveal trailer which says the name is Battlefield 6. No way they are going to change it

[radiant heath]

Battlefield: Good Company 1

[tepid plinth]

Yay I’m not working during the reveal

This chat is going to be wild that afternoon

[radiant heath]

idk if we care much about creators in here but i'm like 99.99% sure timthetatman is doing something next week related to the game

so its looking like trailer this week, event next week

[tepid plinth]

Haven’t heard his name in years

[radiant heath]

yeah i don't really care too much about what he's up to, but the relevant part is that we're probs getting more info next week too. which lines up with a potential august beta

[tepid plinth]

Probably some insider discussions right after the reveal like last time

[radiant heath]

nice, that makes sense. i know its all marketing hype but it'll be nice to get some info like "how many maps", "is there a BR coming at launch", "how long is the campaign" etc

[tepid plinth]

And honestly, knowing that the game is fun already has me more excited. If there were no leaks I’d just be deadpan

[manic gate]

hopefully they will be alot more straight to the point like that

One thing I heavily disliked about 2042 was the near total radio silence after the reveal.

It already made me suspicious of how the game would eventually turn out

[radiant heath]

really the maps piece is gonna be big for me. i know Labs only got like 3, but there's a big difference between launching with 8 fully-completed maps and 14

if i'm being honest since they're committed to a BR (which i'll try, Firestorm was lit), I hope they delay launching that part until spring or something so they have the resources to focus on the core game

[glad trench]

Prob won’t be til the 29th-31st for the details with the reveal trailer just being a hype trailer

And some cheeky teasers up til the 29th

[glad trench]

Zero chance there’s going to be 14, some delusional thinking lol

[manic gate]

14.. what? oh nvm I misread

[radiant heath]

Man if getting caught in the weeds was an Olympic event this would take gold lol

[vocal axle]

I’m just curious what the U.S. player models look like and if the 91st Cav regiment from the U.S. Army is still in the game.