battlefield-labs-discussion

[versed token]

pls send me a video of you reading it out loud

[narrow basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/bungie-sony-marathon-fail-stealing-gif-583106420438048163

[feral garden]

This is my actual voice, unedited BTW

[manic gate]

BF1 glazers when you ask them to list a huge positive aspect of the game apart from "the atmosphere and immersion bro"

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-patrick-star-thinking-hmmm-intense-gif-5454670

I can't have a serious convo with these guys. Unironically telling me stuff like: "females don't belong in war games, this is why Battlefield is in decline"

jesus christ, touch some grass

[mossy marten]

the gas grenades
they make enemy eye go bad, make easy kill

[manic gate]

And as a result it's all they talk about when discussing labs. "the atmosphere bro, BF6 has to nail it! BF1 is the absolute best because of it!!"

[manic gate]

have to use mask all the time and can't see shit, soooo immersive bro

[manic gate]

not like you can normally anyways on the average BF1 night map

[mossy marten]

god, i hated the gas nade spam on bf1
shit was annoying af especially when you're not in the cloud and it still affects you

[verbal crypt]

BF1 is what I call a tourists paradise

[manic gate]

they hated him for saying the truth

No but seriously that's the perfect fitting description for it .

[verbal crypt]

Don’t tell Reddit this though, you will get down voted into Davy Jones locker 🤣

[tall urchin]

Yup, the black sheep of the series and what a shocker it was reddit's favourite.

[nimble bridge]

Gunplay is good besides visual recoil

BFV butchered gunplay and 2042 is a bit too laserbeamy so BF1 has best gunplay among modern BF games I would say

[pulsar shard]

apparently people cant have preferences nowadays so if someone likes a game you dont is a glazer and tourist

[pulsar mica]

I got a Xbox invite when I play on pc, why do u do this to me

[dry bluff]

Still waiting dor mine

[grim siren]

That's why its so great

[manic gate]

Not saying you can't enjoy it but many kind of refuse to elaborate or go deeper as if "atmosphere" is the sole thing that makes a shooter fun and enjoyable to play. As well as having the attitude of "BF1 is the best because that's the only one/first one I played"

[pulsar shard]

I get it,but i think the forced racism hate on people who play BF1 is too much

[versed token]

[pulsar shard]

Ive played every BF and i enjoyed every single bf,even 2042 a little bit

[grim siren]

True

[crimson moss]

its just that bf1 players are too casual minded with the game

[pulsar shard]

i mean every BF is casual

[crimson moss]

a lot of players that didnt like bf1 came from bf4 where we had esports and just ingeneral much better players due to a larger skillgap game

[pulsar shard]

so is the people who make it competitive

[crimson moss]

there was official tourneys for bf4

[pulsar shard]

to me what matters if the game is fun

[crimson moss]

it should be fun for everyone

and not cater into super casual playerbase that struggles with pressing sprint key

[pulsar shard]

like a said that just preferences

[crimson moss]

bf1 was just hyper casual and it had a lot of game mechanics that heavily aided worse/casual players so its just sheer annoyance to play that game

[pulsar shard]

you cant like every game just like how people like the games you dont like

[feral garden]

"Came from BF4, where we had esports".

Spoken as if BF4 esports ever was actually a serious thing.

[crimson moss]

it was fairly big for a bf game

there were a lot of advertisments for the events aswell and just being able to see what the good players played like what the skillgap was, i think a lot of people were just more interested in actually getting better at the game

bf4 players were definitely significally better players than players from bf1

there was an attempt at trying to bring back competitive gameplay in 2042 but it just pretty much died because no one really wanted to play it

[feral garden]

And here lays part of the problem. Too many people view players who just play for fun/without much of a care, or wihtout their aim to get better as a casual or a tourist

Which leads to these opinions on BF1

[crimson moss]

them being casual isnt particularly the issue with the game

its just that they want a lot of mechanics that just arent very great and are a bit too forgiving

[feral garden]

BF1 just had a lower ceiling for skill, which made it easier to play for a casual player

[crimson moss]

for example bf1 removed movement from the game just removes depth from the game, sweetspot, suppression, grenades/gadgets were more spammable so they had an opportunity to just spam nades and get fairly cheap free kills off of that

pretty much the worst things you want to play against, someone shooting at you before you shoot at them pretty much made it impossible for you to properly aim towards them to counter, its still doable but its pretty clear that it allows them to have extra time to correct their aim whilist making it harder for everyone else to aim

getting 2/3 hits on a sniper just for them to be within sweetspot range on complete accident and 1 tap you anyway

the game can still be casual but without some dummy mechanics inplace

and those same bf1 players dont seem to realize that not only does it aid them to position better it doesnt really mean that the game will be inherently mechanical skill

or disrupt gamepace

[feral garden]

Everything you mention can also be used to your advantage. Play the game, dont let the game play you

[tall urchin]

A game that can appeal to casual players but still offer depth = good

A game where casuals remove every aspect of skill expression or gap = bad

Pretty straightforward.

[verbal crypt]

^^

[crimson moss]

yeah but its still just annoying lol

why remove depth and skillgap from the game for the sake of it

[feral garden]

I never felt like BF1 lacked skill, or the ability to pull of plays when I played it. So I always feel like this is some crazy revisionism.

[crimson moss]

theres always skill involved but its the amount that was heavily toned down

[pulsar shard]

true

[crimson moss]

the game just has no real depth

[feral garden]

You have the same, or better ability as the other players. I just dont get it. Being a good player, you will still be a better player.

[crimson moss]

battlefield players are not losing anything from slightly better movement

[crimson moss]

it isnt about that

[tall urchin]

BF1 absolutely had no skill gaps comparatively. AD strafe speeds got gutted, they added body shot multipliers to arms and legs, slide got nerfed, so paired with a lot of visual recoil, sweet spot mechanics, easiest sniping of the series, etc it was just a solved meta in a matter of days.

[feral garden]

Im not using this as a way to ask for lesser movement in other games in futre, im just saying that when I played BF1, it was always a pretty good time.

[crimson moss]

you cant strafe in that game at all thats how bad it is lol

like the most generic bit of movement isnt even doable

[feral garden]

NGL, I preferred strafing as it was in BF3

Not the twitchy broken animation BS of BF4

[crimson moss]

not only is it slow you cant really fire accurately mid movement so you still have to play standstill the entire game

[crimson moss]

bf4 strafe iirc was only very slightly accelerated

[feral garden]

Reference to what I mean: https://youtu.be/WoGULTnalfY?si=ORntiEH6uLK8VSiR&t=7

[crimson moss]

also broken animations dont come from strafe speed within itself

[feral garden]

they do when you lack motion matching

[crimson moss]

bf2042 has fairly good strafing with good animations

[tall urchin]

BF2042 was a bit sluggish and unresponsive at times but mechanically it worked quite well.

[crimson moss]

yeah

[tall urchin]

It also didn't require the higher mechanical skill to execute like a lot of cancels in BF3 days which opened up accessibility

[crimson moss]

like no ones asking for anything crazy just a usable slide, strafe, jumpshotting im expecting will be back, leaning

[feral garden]

What we have seen so far in the leaks looks basically perfect TBH. No complaints from me.

[crimson moss]

people are just exaggerating

[tall urchin]

Honestly even the bhop in 2042 had no air control and momentum loss so it was quite subdued in application.

[crimson moss]

bhopping wasnt even something that was difficult to counter either it just allowed you to move accross empty space better

[nimble bridge]

You can strafe only in close range in BF3 but might as well hipfire at that point. Crouching and bursting was meta in BF3

[crimson moss]

yeah

[tall urchin]

Looks awful to me, reticle bounce like crazy and you lose significant momentum after the first bhop. Strafe also seems slow.

[crimson moss]

idk i havent really looked at leaks i dont really care to watch a pre alpha that will change pretty drastically anyway

[tepid plinth]

Same, with battlefield you can pretty easily keep all the games on your library and each one offers a different experience that is varied enough to where they are all a good time for different reasons

[feral garden]

All good with me. Learn how weapons behave to master it. Skill and all that, right?

[nimble bridge]

Strafe seems to be slow and ADS seems to be slowe according to people who played it, movelet game

[tall urchin]

You have to do that regardless, and if anything you need MORE mastery to deal with a moving opponent than a stationary one.

[nimble bridge]

Bring back BFV lightened stock

[crimson moss]

bf1 weapons didnt require much mastery you just really needed to know “ready to fire state" fire mechanic and pace your shots

[feral garden]

More to learn, so higher skill ceiling, right?

[crimson moss]

so all you had to really learn was positioning

[mossy marten]

[feral garden]

Honestly, ill always just flat out disagree with anyone who wants tolerances towards b hopping.

[crimson moss]

like yes you can add timing, spatial awareness, predicting, understanding team rotations/enemy rotations

[crimson moss]

whats wrong with bhopping other than "it looks stupid" though

[nimble bridge]

BF has fairly fast TTK anyways so movement won’t turn it into an arena shooter

[crimson moss]

yeah like i said in previous battlefield games the movement mechanics in those games it just made the rotating between positions much better

[feral garden]

Doesnt belong in BF franchise. Not as a core pillar of mechanics

[crimson moss]

you couldnt pull very heavy aggressive plays and just mindlessly freeroam the map

[crimson moss]

why not

you had a very slight bhop in bf4 aswell

[nimble bridge]

BF3 had gazelle jumping

Same as bhops really, makes you rotate the map faster

[feral garden]

I think it should exist/be possible as a result of momentum meeting jumping/sliding > jumping...but it shouldnt be something that is actually added as a deliberate mechanic, and given any balance. Basically you should have the same penalty when using it, as a regular jump/corner jump

The same way sliding should exist as a way to match, or be the intermediate state between a sprint to a crouch. But slide accuracy/weapon usability in this scenario needs to be balanced. As the slide accuracy should be somewhere between a sprint and a crouch

[tepid plinth]

Could be used for its primary purpose of wide swinging in close quarters then

[nimble bridge]

I would rather want BF to be jump heavy than slide heavy tbh

But milisim crowd hates jumping too, some people even said replace it with contextual vaulting

[feral garden]

Both should be possible. But with players of equal skill, id always prefer the non jumping/sliding player to have the accuracy/weapon usability advantage

[nimble bridge]

Jumpshots were balanced in 2042 imo

Especially against roller players who were ready to beam me from 50 meters

[feral garden]

Eh...yes and no. Mechanically balanced...maybe. But 2042 is so random, and the map design and sight lines are so terrible that its hard to really know how balanced it is/was

I never felt like a corner jumper absolutely ruined me, so i can agree partially

[tall urchin]

Bhopping was a non issue in 2042 because you lose momentum quickly and you're locked into a linear path

No air strafing and no redirecting of momentum made it very readable

[nimble bridge]

I use it to throw off RAA that’s locked to me

[tepid plinth]

But it definitely saved my ass from being killed by someone in a spot id never predict across the open plains of Discarded

[tall urchin]

That's where the significant amount of movement complaints come from, CoD players on low sens who are used to the game doing the heavy lifting so breaking their camera is the problem and not them raising their sens and learning to pull their stick.

[rugged seal]

This is not the discord for the playtests

This is for public info about labs in general

[faint drift]

Speaking of. I never got the playtest discord invite or I missed it…

[tepid plinth]

Is ‘breaking the camera’ just meant to mean someone moving outside of their field of view?

[tall urchin]

Yeah, breaking camera is moving completely out of FOV and breaking bubble is moving beyond the aim assist bubble so the RAA won't track you and any ADS snap won't be close enough to lock onto you. The end goal of both is the same though.

[crimson moss]

idk theres no real need to heavily nerf being able to shoot mid slide

[tepid plinth]

So someone achieving the goals of movement gets a complaint - avoiding shots

[crimson moss]

you cant really pull aggressive plays with it anyway and a positioned standstill target has an easier time killing you anyway

you cant directly slide into people and walk away with 10 kills thats more of just timing and using slide to get by some of the campers

[feral garden]

There should be an accuracy penalty, or vision penalty for siding, but that is enough. Ideally any penalty would also be learnable, so you can adjust (The same way you adjust to recoil)

[crimson moss]

camping shouldnt be something thats rewarded or something people should stray out to do it just doesnt work well

[crimson moss]

i mean you can add a penalty i just dont really see what for

[tepid plinth]

You could also just slow peek them as games designed around less movement are promoting

[crimson moss]

yeah its still a positioning centered game you cant really freerun like i said

[tepid plinth]

Sure it isn’t as aim savvy or particularly fast paced or challenging but there’s a counter still

[crimson moss]

theres 32 players you cant just do a raid on them and run accross them like they are afk

what slide more of allows is just more peek options/entry options

and less detection because you make yourself smaller and are able to utilize cover better

and better positioning rotation

bf5 had the most mechanical complexity of any battlefield game im pretty sure that no one felt like they couldnt fight against more mechanically skilled players

[tepid plinth]

One thing I do find a little contradictory is when people say v is the best for its lack of complexity but you can literally shift direction mid way through. Like, 2042’s slide to them (without jumps or anything) is too much yet somehow v’s isn’t

[crimson moss]

i could unbind slide entirely and play fine

[crimson moss]

bf5 had by far the most movement options

not only could you slide in 4 different directions you could lean mid slides, lean mid jumpshots

ads stabilisation jump was brought back

roll, crouch run, climb

[tepid plinth]

The traversal stuff was fantastic

The mirrors edge fan in me was having a blast with it

[minor linden]

Imo it’s good to add some sort of downside because you shouldn’t be able to quickly change your hitbox without any downsides. It’s the same reason for having longer ads times when you’re aiming from a sprint

[crimson moss]

that depends on animations more of

[minor linden]

You get more maneuverability in exchange for less combat readiness

[crimson moss]

for example bf2042 has very fluid in and out of slide animations, you could react and track it perfectly fine

bf5 was definitely more yanky with its animations

bf5 going into slide was a bit too abrupt

and its prone mechanics were pretty abrupt aswell

you could bug your hitbox entirely for an extremely small frame window when going from proning on your stomach to your back

[crimson moss]

but what is the downside for though

like what do you not want to allow from movement

even without penalties you cant do very aggressive plays with it

and you can also have way too harsh penalties on movement like bf1 did where you just couldnt strafe due to spread increase, it being fairly slow with going to right meant that you had a penalty on moving to left

"crouch spam" added a lot of penalties for no real reason

these penalties only aid bad players for just being bad for no real reason and your general playerbase wont really even use many movement mechanics at all

nor do you really have to use those said movement mechanics

since bf games are fairly fast paced its actually better to not add too many penalties on movement because you decrease amount of outplay/counter plays

[minor linden]

I just personally don't want to see people instantly slide when they get into a gunfight to make their hitbox half the size. I'd rather slide be used as an escape tool than as a gunplay mechanic

If they balance it properly, I don't have an issue with there being low to no penalty.

[tall urchin]

Movement's downside is you have to counteract your own movement with aim.

[crimson moss]

why not though

you can still aim and track them perfectly fine

and again like its not something you can really counter or punish a player within a good position

a standstill player will always have an easier time shooting from a safe position than players having to navigate the movement and being accurate enough on top to have a slight change of killing a player within a better position

[minor linden]

It just feels stupid to me. I prefer the slower style of movement like in 3/4/HL (I played these on console so don't spout excuses about movement glitches)

Y'know, I would actually be fine with all the fast paced movement y'all want if they just killed crossplay

Would fix 99% of all the movement issues

[crimson moss]

idk feeling stupid imo isnt a real reason to just remove or outirght kill certain movements via penalties

[pulsar shard]

agree

[feral garden]

You should be made lesser in one area of ability, when you use another tht advantages you in a gunfight. Its the reason your movement speed is slower when crouching. the same should apply to sliding.

[crimson moss]

mechanical movement should be looked into if it actually heavily impacts gameplay in some way

[crimson moss]

bf5 had fairly fast crouch run speed and iirc crouch running was supposed to return in 6

[scenic owl]

you should use both analog sticks to control each leg

[feral garden]

BFV also has crouch sprint to ADS speed and accuracy penalties

[crimson moss]

ye

idk it entirely depends on the movement

[minor linden]

It isn't removing or killing them though? A small (or even big) accuracy penalty wouldn't outright kill the movement. It's like BSoD said. Every other movement mechanic has downsides and upsides such as sprinting having ads penalties. Idk why sliding should be the odd one out

[crimson moss]

i think sprinting and being able to shoot at the same time would for example be a fairly dumb mechanic

like slight spread increase from mid slide would be perfectly fine

but not something that makes you unable to shoot midslide because that would remove counter play option

[scenic owl]

can we expect a full reveal for the game this month or is that a pipe dream

[feral garden]

There should always be a penalty to something, if your action makes you better in another aspect of combat.

Crouch = More accurate/smaller hitbox = less fast
Sprint = faster = less accurate/slower time to ADS
Slide = Faster/smaller hitbox = less accurate/slower time to ADS

[minor linden]

I'm kinda in favor of sliding allowing shooting, just not with sights

[tall urchin]

Again, movement actions already have the offset of you moving past your target faster which means you yourself have to compensate more with your aim.

[crimson moss]

sliding hasnt been signifcally faster than run speed in battlefield games

[minor linden]

It'd still allow you to fight back, but not as powerfully as if you were standing facing them

[crimson moss]

only bf2042 had a very slight momentum boost going into a slide

5 was 1/1 with runspeed

and well tbh thats the only games where we really had an actual slide mechanic

[feral garden]

But slide makes your hitbox smaller, in the same way a crouch does. So you have the speed, so you need to reduce the accuracy, or ADS speed

[crimson moss]

yeah but youre always going to have an advantage from a held position over someone thats likely not within position when approaching with a slide

[crimson moss]

why does the hitbox size matter? the hitbox size in 2042 is extremely large even midslide

[tall urchin]

Slide also puts you into a predictable linear path and guts momentum at the end so you can't chain movement immediately after.

[feral garden]

Its an advantage to the user of it

[crimson moss]

against who?

[tall urchin]

Movement is not some autowin mechanic that gives you a kill for executing it.

[feral garden]

Someone shooting you. Are these actual serious questions?

[crimson moss]

theres only 2 real options

[feral garden]

Use some common sense

[crimson moss]

1. the player just doesnt have very good aim fundamentals

or well actually just 1 option

[crimson moss]

just track them and react to the slide like you usually aim?

if you react first you have an advantage still anyway

[feral garden]

Na, balance the game to not make an action which give an advantage, no disadvantage

[crimson moss]

i cant imagine sliding giving you an edge its more of a micro chance inreality

[feral garden]

I guess no player ever will use slide then, right?

[crimson moss]

sliding isnt inherently meant for aggressive plays

[feral garden]

It is

[crimson moss]

no

[feral garden]

I guess youre gonna run the avenue now of "I use it to get to cover"

[tall urchin]

Again, the disadvantages are 1) you are put into a predictable path with no way to redirect 2) your initial speed ends up with no momentum 3) it throws the user's aim as well

[feral garden]

When you in your own videos (That you always tell us to watch) use it agressively

[crimson moss]

you cant use it for aggressive plays in 5 or 2042 other than give you a counterplay option but you still are in an disadvantage when someone reacts and shoots at you first

for example theres a player to the left of me he starts firing at me, i react with slide, i now need time to turn over to the player, predict and react to the player and only then i can start firing

and in the whole course of that the player that reacted first has all the time in the world to track and aim at me with a gun that can potentially kill me within 200-400ms

[tall urchin]

Also true, giving away your position to the defending player still means you're the reactive vs proactive one. Another disadvantage.

[crimson moss]

i havent done bf5 videos or 2042 videos

and i dont use slide in an aggressive manner because theres no real viable options for it

[tall urchin]

It's often why you don't see top players executing a lot of those same movement mechanics against good players. More often than not you'll utilize jiggle peeking and non-biased strafes as opposed to bhops or slides outside of fringe scenarios.

[crimson moss]

other than pushing up to a target but that depends on other enemy positions and timing

[feral garden]

So in your opinions, should you be allowed to slide and 180 turn on a player with no restrictions?

[tall urchin]

We already listed a billion disadvantages you get for initiating movement, what more do you want?

[crimson moss]

why not

[feral garden]

lol, ill talk to ye in a few months so

[crimson moss]

like in this scenario the entire reason why you lost the gunfight was not due to me sliding but due to you missing

if its a good player that reacts first you wont be able to offset them with a slide

or have enough time to react properly, you die either on the moment you get into a slide or die during slide without having enough time to react to it

[feral garden]

Maybe not even a bad player 🤯

[crimson moss]

wdym

like a bad player vs bad player scenario?

that just means that the player that executed a slide to counter your intial reaction is just simply better still

its much harder to pull off than being stationary and shooting at something that has a harder time to properly respond

[tall urchin]

Staying still and shooting is infinitely easier than moving and shooting.

[crimson moss]

like you can add a spread increase to that movement i just dont really see a reason to

im also pretty certain that you cant even really fire for a few frames going into a slide animation?

and bf5 the reason why people were just harder to hit wasnt really because of the movement but because the character models were pretty awkward with slim hitboxes

+abrupt animations on top

with spread to recoil mechanics ontop of weapon recoil pattern

[crimson moss]

#streams-and-videos message very quick sample of what the slide speed of bf5 is and some more broad examples on how its used

i think anyone would be fine with a slide like that

like nothing gamebreaking and just a fairly generic slide duration/speed

2042 slide has pretty much the same usecases other than you can gain momentum for a bhop but thats like pretty much the main key difference

and you are within a single motion again unlike in bf5 where you had 4 directions

[crimson moss]

@minor linden @pulsar shard

[nimble bridge]

I’m glad BF6 isn’t shown in SGF

Hopefully we will see reveal trailer in Xbox showcase 2 days later 🤞

[weak obsidian]

I think it's going to be next week

[nimble bridge]

Well Andrew Wilson said they were going to announce it in a big gaming showcase in summer

I don’t think there is any showcase next week, state of play and SGF already ended so that leaves us with Xbox

[cedar flax]

Another day and no opportunity seized, DICE better cook

and EA

[cedar flax]

You think its going to be the XBOX Showcase?

[weak obsidian]

maybe

[nimble bridge]

I think so, Ghost of Hope claimed BO7 isn’t ready to be shown and both BFV and 2042 were shown in Xbox showcases

So that leaves a spot for an arcade militaristic FPS

2 days later

[short schooner]

Yeah i just looked up after😭

[cedar flax]

Call of Duty, as long as they do yearly releases I will ignore them.

You can probably understand why

[nimble bridge]

I will play singleplayer, maybe a week of MP then delete it

Thanks to gamepass I don’t need to pay full price for CoD

[cedar flax]

Lucky you, Steam doesn't have that, all CoD games are so expensive except the last days, I bought Black Ops III. Amazing game, I hope they look back and make a unique, fully fleshed out game and stop yearly releases and reskinned games.

[crimson moss]

pc has gamepass too

[stiff root]

Less likely. But still have chance

And most of all Xbox has Call of Duty franchise so would be weird for Battlefield to be released there

[cedar flax]

What?

Steam? I just use Steam, but you mean XBOX thing on Windows

[crimson moss]

yeah

why not just use the xbox app for gamepass kekw

[cedar flax]

Hm ok, never thought I just used Steam

I never had XBOX so not familiar with that system at all.

[cedar flax]

True

[stiff root]

But still disappointed that new Battlefield game did not announced at SGF

It would be the best place for it to be announced

[nimble bridge]

I was expecting it to be shown in state of play before sgf tbh

EA or DICE wasn’t in SGF partner list but there was a possibility of them being in state of play

[cedar flax]

4 countries work on this game, they're afraid to where to reveal it

[stiff root]

or maybe EA having their own Showcase this summer, like the past years?

[nimble bridge]

EA stopped doing that years ago

[tepid plinth]

I don’t mind if they don’t do anything really but I was expecting a shadow drop

[stiff root]

Oh really? That is interesting

[cedar flax]

EA is oddly silent cause they're dumbasses. What did BF do last time?

[stiff root]

It was bad if I remember it correctly

If the game does not get revealed this Xbox Showcase then we should wait until August, gamescom
(Or hope they just shadowdrop teasers afterwards)

[tepid plinth]

One thing can be sure and that is the trailer will be a banger

[nimble bridge]

BF trailer team always delivers

[cedar flax]

The trailer team

[cedar flax]

💀 All summer and nothing would be sad

[nimble bridge]

Don’t panic yet, there is still an Xbox showcase

It’s time to panic if we don’t see it in Xbox

[pure harness]

Most likely we’ll see it at the Xbox Showcase, given that there’s nothing mentioned of an EA Play or EA Conference

it makes sense to also announce/unveil and update to it alongside the upcoming skate title

[pure harness]

Gamescom 100% is also another possibility if nothing is mentioned Sunday

[weak obsidian]

gamescom is a bit late

either it's at the xbox event or they're doing their own thing later this month

[stiff root]

...Btw I might be wrong, there was case like Battlefield 2042 being revealed on Xbox + Bethesda E3 2021 so yes given the traditions about new battlefield trailer there might be more chance

[cedar flax]

I play Black Ops for the time being Gotta stay productive with something so time can fly til we're there

[rotund pier]

I told you, game will be revealed on the 17th for my birthday 😎

[short schooner]

Except battlefield 5s trailer all the others are amazing

[mint cobalt]

what's this about a trailer (0v0?

[balmy willow]

Hi guys as someone who has thousands of hours into so many battlefield games I was wondering what you think about this: what if Team Deatmatch just randomly selected multiple small portions of larger maps regularly. So the map rotation would be like 100 maps. Some silly some fun some normal. I have always thought that more people would play if there were more maps ❤️ 💙 💜 💖 💗

[minor linden]

Would def be interesting

[versed token]

Been asking for that forever

[dry grotto]

I mean why can't they do different layers of the same map with conquest

They already did that with the Stadium, but let's play it even

[versed token]

Stadium is a separate map now though

[feral garden]

They have a mode which does this, control

[vocal axle]

Are we allowed to talk about things that have been posted to Reddit here or is this channel only for talking about news posted by EA

[rugged seal]

• Leaks - The sharing and discussion of leaked information will be closely monitored. There is to be no discussion of leaks that are circulating in small groups, feel like hearsay, and/or don't match known information around the product as well as no downloading/direct re-sharing of game footage that has been leaked elsewhere. Players can however discuss leaks that are seen as widely available or have been covered by mainstream media sources, but this is entirely at the moderator/staff team’s discretion.

[dry grotto]

If it's "leaked" then no

[tepid plinth]

Unless it’s the right kind of leak, in which case it’s somehow alright

[inner eagle]

if u didn’t sign an nda u can discuss what u want 👍

[feral garden]

No you can't. You'll just be muted here, then banned on repeat offenses.

[inner eagle]

can you cite this information please.

the above bullet point addresses what people need to know.

[feral garden]

No need, it's cited above. If people take the piss and talk about or post related to leaks, mods have and will mute/ban you on a case by case basis.

[inner eagle]

“players however can discuss leaks that are seen as widely available or have been covered by mainstream media sources”

[worldly summit]

How does one know when the next test is? Will someone get an email

[feral garden]

The vast majority of leaks don't quality for talking about under those criteria.

[inner eagle]

the cases that you state are largely from people that break nda or post actual videos/pictures of leaks, please be reminded that if you simply talk about them and have not signed nda you may talk about what you desire.

[feral garden]

So it remains the same, they are fine with basic discussion, but don't want these channels to devolve into "BF Labs Leak discussion"

People talking about things that leaked, not having signed an NDA are not immune to the rules of this server.

So no, you may not talk about what you desire .

[inner eagle]

i don’t understand why you felt the need to fear monger then. you could have simply said that instead of “no. you will be muted and banned.” be more careful with your verbiage.

[feral garden]

Feel free to test the theory tho. 👍

See you in 24 hours to a week, depending on how long you get muted for.

I did say that, you continued

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[worldly summit]

Anyway. So how would someone know when the next test if they got invited? A email or what?

[inner eagle]

i just don’t understand why this has made you upset lol

[tepid plinth]

Email yes

[worldly summit]

Thanks player

[feral garden]

In what way am I upset? I merely informed you about how things work here.

[inner eagle]

i didn’t know you were a moderator wow you must run things around here in the battlefield-labs-discussion channel ooo 😭

[feral garden]

I'm not, I'm a server regular, so I know better than some what the rules are, and/or how they are enforced.

[inner eagle]

stating your server role does not does not instantly make you more reputable than others ,, lowkey just got the ick from that

[feral garden]

Cool story tbh. At least you, or others won't accidentally break a rule > get muted or banned. 👍

[inner eagle]

thank u so much my white knight

[glad trench]

literally me being muted the past week

spaced out and posted a reddit link with some leaked gameplay, poof muted

[tepid plinth]

Rookie error

[trim elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/crawly-gnome-gnomes-gnome-vs-knight-meme-gif-8227674301964771534

[half halo]

Probably Blacklisted from BFLabs as well

[glad trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-scared-scary-flop-gif-8576938341887257950

[turbid isle]

Rooks blue seems to me, having fun, how do you play? It's in the Game without a browser it'll go away

[fleet robin]

read the email slowly and carefully

[winged bay]

hi! I got an error called 0:13C:-12561655840, and I have no Content 3 Add-on, is this normal or fixable? EDIT: Platform is PC

[cedar flax]

if i missed first invitation won't i get second one ?

[feral garden]

I believe you are re-entered into the pool of candidates. But make sure to update your playtest preference to be in with the best chance for selection

[tepid plinth]

WhatAShame.gif

[half halo]

I wish There was a way to redo the BFLabs survey, just to make sure everything is correct

[dry grotto]

totally lol

I was in the US at the time

[glad trench]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1l6bww9/king_of_the_street/

@rugged seal people see one sniper clip like this and just assume every single sniper going forward is Jason Bourne

[glad flume]

when is the next playtest?

[versed token]

Not even an impressive clip

[glad flume]

I got the same error. Did you ever get this fixed?

[rotund pier]

Didn’t they allow embeds and shit a couple days ago?

[glad trench]

that's the magic of my statement, most people are so dogwater at the game, any person being "good" makes them freak out

[nimble bridge]

Where is BF6 reveal trailer?

[rotund pier]

9 days

[versed token]

Next year

[glad trench]

5/26/26

[stark sentinel]

they would randomly drop like GTA Trailer .. source : my alcohol

[faint temple]

@glad flume iv heard this Friday

[nimble bridge]

06/06/25 would be a goated date 😛

[glad trench]

hop in the delorean marty

[stiff root]

Btw no Battlefield game reveal this Xbox Games Showcase 2025, see you at August (Gamescom)

So disappointed

[glad trench]

you guys understand that BF is big enough for it's own reveal right? Just like they did with BFV...

[stiff root]

They quitted doing that long ago, now they only reveal it during game shows

[glad trench]

it's been one game where they didn't do that since BFV...

[fallow kayak]

They'll have their own event, I don't think it'll be at Gamescom.

[glad trench]

to think they want to share their giant reveal for the "revival" of the franchise with other games

gamescom will get a gameplay trailer, it won't be the reveal

[tepid plinth]

Imagine if they announced it during the Xbox showcase with the ultra special show at the end just being cod

[feral garden]

lol. It is funny how effective/OP people think bolt actions are. when only 1% of the playerbase are capable of things like this. That 1% also only using bolt actions a % of their playtime also

[glad trench]

nah man you don't get it, if this guy has access to an ammo box/med kit he'll be unkillable

[nimble bridge]

Hopefully BF trailer will also use a NIN cover 🤣

[gritty hearth]

That teaser man…

[oak condor]

it's 2025 with back to back worst releases in the series, it's not post-bf3 2013 anymore

[weak obsidian]

doesn't matter, people will still eat it up

[glad trench]

meanwhile 2 of those "worst" releases sold a combined ~28 million copies and 2042 wasn't some sales flop either

[weak obsidian]

the labs trailer got like 1.8 million views 🥀

[glad trench]

the labs reveal had over 1.5mil views and the labs signup had well over 500k signups, possibly over 1 mil

straight cope to still think this IP doesn't carry giant weight

[oak condor]

1.8m is not a lot for a franchise with "giant weight" and especially not in this era with more people online than ever

you and most of the battlefield playerbase are hard stuck in 2013

[weak obsidian]

it's not bad

[glad trench]

for a reveal of a limited access playtest environment, it's a lot. It wasn't an official reveal of a newly titled BF

[weak obsidian]

it ain't even the proper reveal

[glad trench]

ya me, the guy who dogs on BF 3/4 boomers all day is stuck in 2013

[weak obsidian]

people will always fiend for a good battlefield, there's a reason everyone was gassing up battlebit lol

[tepid plinth]

And delta force

[glad trench]

even JackFrags vid just recapping the playtest reveal was his highest viewed vid of the last 4 months

[weak obsidian]

forgot about that 💀💀💀💀

[glad trench]

people spent like 4 years trying to hype up WW3 too lmao

[tepid plinth]

And now you’ve got wardogs on the way

[weak obsidian]

I will say the armour system is neat but yeah lol

[oak condor]

jackfrags and the people who watch him are the most stuck in 2013 lmfao, you will not catch any of those people dead actually playing the game

[glad trench]

did I say they'd play the game? No, it's pointing out how despite this IP being at it's lowest it still garners a huge amount of attention and public consciousness when official reveals/news happen.

[oak condor]

oh yeah and all the public attention around the finals, concord etc definitely converted to players

[glad trench]

wow almost like the game has to also be good to convert attention into a consistent playerbase

[oak condor]

and we have a battlefield series that is consistently bad post-bf1

[glad trench]

but still attracts eyeballs when it announces news...

and ends up selling well

[weak obsidian]

finals n concord are not really comparable...

[oak condor]

both games everyone loved to talk about and not play

[glad trench]

really bending over backwards, reaching for shit to not argue the point originally stated

BF is big enough for its own reveal

[oak condor]

hey, they can try their luck with it if they really want to, bf is way more of an insulated bubble than people think

[weak obsidian]

I don't think the talk about Concord was ever positive 💀

[tepid plinth]

It sucks having new shooters just die immiedietly

I need to get on splitgate 2 asap as it’ll definitely only last 6 months tops

[weak obsidian]

still one of the biggest names in the FPS sphere

[weak obsidian]

whatever their co-CEO and social media guy was doing ain't helping

[glad trench]

no, it's a brand that pretty much everyone who plays games knows of, whether they play BF or not.

[oak condor]

you are delusional

[cedar flax]

On SGF?

[glad trench]

you're the one acting like BF isn't one of the most recognizable IPs in gaming because they released two versions of the game you didn't like (but still sold well)

franchise is truly in demise

[weak obsidian]

yeah lol

[oak condor]

dude a whole generation of shooter players have grown up and moved on having never seen the outside of an overwatch or valorant lobby, and people are in here pretending past glory from 15-20 years ago is relevant at all

[glad trench]

You keep moving the goalposts. At first it was because the last two were bad despite still selling. Now it’s people living 15-20 years ago

[weak obsidian]

you could probably say the same for people who only play CS and CoD lol

[young jetty]

I would say the 18th is the reveal date

[tepid plinth]

Regardless they’ll be doing their own reveal anyway

[young jetty]

The reveal is happening in June tho

[tepid plinth]

Can easily do a cryptic tweet and set a premier for the day after

[weak obsidian]

that 17th of june date...

[young jetty]

Nah announcement a day before and a trailer the next day.

[tepid plinth]

That’s what I just said

[young jetty]

You said a cryptic tweet I said an regular announcement

[weak obsidian]

semantics

[tepid plinth]

I really did like what they did leading up to portal

[young jetty]

Could be the 18th

[tepid plinth]

But that was really mysterious with little surrounding it before some journalist group accidentally published it earlier

[pulsar shard]

how are we sure its June?

[tepid plinth]

Dev tweets that sound suspicious

[young jetty]

Yes Cadwoman bascially teased it on twitter

[pulsar shard]

is cadwoman a dev ?

[tepid plinth]

Creator

[young jetty]

She’s an EA creator

[pulsar shard]

or has close relationship with the devs

[young jetty]

Yes

[tepid plinth]

I don’t buy it personally, I took it as a nod to 2042’s june boom hints

[young jetty]

Nah A Dice Dev also teased it as well

[mossy marten]

That tweet has since been deleted....
Doesn't mean anything

[young jetty]

Yes it can, a deleted tweet from a DICE dev is very credible

It’s been posted on Reddit anyways

[weak obsidian]

June makes sense...

[young jetty]

June 18th, mark my words

[weak obsidian]

what timezone

[young jetty]

11am EST, that’s the time they would post trailers and stuff for BF

[tepid plinth]

Today, 4pm bst

[weak obsidian]

why 18th tho

the EA app thing for Labs said 17th

[young jetty]

BF6 will be the 18th installment of the franchise, we know the reveal is happening in June cause it’s been teased by creators and actual devs, BF would usually post their trailers on a Wednesday the 18th is on a Wednesday.

[weak obsidian]

yeah I dunno about the 18th installment part

the wednesday stuff is reasonable

hold on the Labs trailer released on the 4th of Feb which was a tuesday...

[young jetty]

If they’re clinging hard on nostalgia which clearly that’s what they’re doing for BF6 then June 18th would be very reasonable

[weak obsidian]

dude nobody knows theres 18 battlefield games

[weak obsidian]

the 17th of June is on a tuesday as well...

[mossy marten]

This June 18th thing is very much a stretch lol
Feels like conspiracy theory pulling stuff out of thin air to make something seem true

[weak obsidian]

I'm more inclined to believe something is happening on the 17th

[young jetty]

So June 17th?

[minor linden]

This is starting to feel like the Titanfall community whenever Respawn puts a 3 in anything lol

The amount of reaching here is crazy

[young jetty]

Ok cope harder I guess, something is happening on the 17th where you want to believe it or not.

[mossy marten]

True
Nothing has been announced by Dice via the BF social media accounts, so all we can do is wait

[weak obsidian]

june 17 reveal I trvst the plan

[winter viper]

Marking them and you'll still be wrong

[young jetty]

June 17 then

[winter viper]

Still would be wrong

[tall urchin]

June 16th just so it can land on my wretched birthday

[young jetty]

Something is happening on the 17th but I don’t want to talk about because I can’t discuss leaks in here

[winter viper]

Tell you what, let's make a bet. June 17th they reveal a trailer...I'll send $100 to your PayPal @young jetty

[young jetty]

Deal, you better keep your promise.

Also I only use cash app is that good for you?

[winter viper]

I expect your $100 immediately

[young jetty]

We’ll see who right

[winter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-jack-black-ill-be-waiting-half-stance-funny-gif-17917419

[covert nest]

"Slide enjoyer" that'll make some people MAD.

[tall urchin]

We have a lot of based names in here for sure

[weak obsidian]

I'm absolutely fuming right now.

[winter viper]

They should would wear a cape, so they can be Super Mad

[stark sentinel]

👀

[cedar flax]

i hope ryzen5600x+rx 6600 xt will be enough for new bf

[mild girder]

BF6 is not real

[mild girder]

GPU will be tough, but it will be playable

[cedar flax]

if so i'll just add more rgb 😎

[paper mortar]

I really hope that when they announce it, they announce it in full, that is, a good trailer and explain things on a social level for the community. I hope that we can finally make our platoons with our tag, and a statistics system like in BF4.

[digital spire]

Aight thanks for your answer

[stark sentinel]

yes 😭

[true schooner]

oooh i just started watching her recently!

[nimble bridge]

He's right, among ''old school'' FPS players Battlefield is a dead franchise and ''new school'' players never even heard of the series or played it. There is a generation of players who never played anything other than Valorant, Fortnite and Warzone.

We should've seen the trailer at state of play or summer game fest imo, at least an announcement trailer with gameplay overview date at the end of it

[feral garden]

Thank God you don't work in marketing

[weak obsidian]

what the hell is a old school fps player

[feral garden]

Your prior message makes the second one even worse.

If BF is not as known to a large younger audience, the worst thing they could do is announce it at the same time as dozens of others, one of those including a new COD.

Like happened with BF1, they are much smarter to wait for their main competition (COD) in the casual fps market to announce first, read public opinion and announce their game later at a solo event. Doing this is exactly how BF1 overshadowed Infinite Warfare.

IW, like BO7 is a game and era it's players are already tired of.

The next BF game has a massive opportunity to capitalize on this.

Read it, then delete this message

[cedar flax]

Thanks brother

[nimble bridge]

PS360 era gamers

At least in the context of BF

[weak obsidian]

the unction

[mossy marten]

know why they never played anything other than Valorant, Fortnite, Warzone?
Cuz those are free to play games and people are scared to put money into games thinking they will play 5hrs and dip
The free to play portion is the foot in the door type deal where people can try a game relatively risk free
BF never had a free to play portion before, so if the rumored third mode(s) are free to play, then that's how they will try to bring new people into the franchise

[craggy epoch]

BF is a very popular game

BF1 is genuinely known as being one of the greatest shooters of the past 10 years, it’s a very popular game even now with videos about it garnering millions of likes, yes BF2042 isn’t well known but the series legacy is still living on. Kids these days will only play colourful and whimsical shooters and battle royales, they haven’t grown up the same way we have and it’s our job to make sure they play the games they miss out on. I am forcing my younger brother to play such games and he’s loving them

[feral garden]

This has no relation to what I said.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young jetty]

Just don’t even say a word anymore

Lablinima is just a doomposter who complains about everything

[cedar flax]

I liked his hat

and hes right, CoD yearly releases suck ass.

[glad trench]

Thank you

Just like BF3 captured a new generation of young (console) playing fans who didn’t know about the franchise… this game is DICE/EA’s opportunity to bring in that next generation of younger fans. Been 10+ years since they’ve had a generationally defining game

[glad trench]

No, it’s not when all those people jump whenever DICE reveals a new game. They may not play or like the latest games but they still go to bed every night crying themselves to sleep wishing for another modern BF game

[grand cloak]

Is the game pc controller friendly

[oak condor]

hey uh what happened at gamescom 2011 i forgot

oh yeah they put bf3 up against borderlands 3 and modern warfare 3

and... planetside 2

[glad trench]

Ya back when Battlefield was barely known outside the PC community

And last I checked they didn’t reveal the game at gamescom, they released their like 2nd or 3rd gameplay trailer

[oak condor]

you'll never guess what position bf is in after console 2042 copies getting put into bargain bins within a month

[glad trench]

You’ll never guess that brand IP doesn’t die with 1 bad game

[oak condor]

it's two games and almost 8 years of irrelevance later

[glad trench]

Ya BFV which sold ~7million in two weeks was really irrelevant. The cope

[rancid marsh]

Is there more to this than her just wearing a June meme shirt for a month that people expect it to be revealed in?

[feral garden]

No

[winter viper]

She didn't tease anything other than getting people suspecting a June reveal.

[young jetty]

She teased a June reveal my guy she did the same thing with 2042

[feral garden]

How can someone lacking info tease anything? They are a small content creator, who absolutely would not be made aware of launch or release windows this much in advance.

[winter viper]

Bingo

[feral garden]

The June, Soon, Boom thing is just a meme in the BF community

Its the same concept as everyone posting the J. Timberlake meme on April 31st/May 1st

[winter viper]

Made famous only because of 2042

[winter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/its-gonna-be-may-justin-timberlake-n-sync-boy-band-me-gif-21216859

[feral garden]

Thats the one

OMG, is justin timebrlake telling us something guizzzzz!!!

[winter viper]

He's teasing us...I just know it

[mossy marten]

Let's not forget that TheCadWoman's 2042 post was made a day after the "June Boom" post by BF
So she didn't tease that either

[feral garden]

that post was from 2021

[mossy marten]

i know

[feral garden]

Twitter idiots just cant read

[winter viper]

Exactly, she was poking fun at the meme/joke

[mossy marten]

i'm saying that BF posted "June Boom" on May 10, 2021 and she posted the selfie with the shirt on May 11, 2021

people can't seem to understand dates

[winter viper]

Most BF players can't either apparently

[feral garden]

It's : 3
Gonna : 5
Be: 2
May: 3

3523 > Written backwards is 3253 > 25 3 3 > 25 6

June 25th

I've cracked it

[mossy marten]

[mild girder]

I know when the trailer drops

[feral garden]

Arc Raiders community be like

[mossy marten]

it'll drop sometime before GTA VI drops

[mild girder]

They will release the Trailer when its ready

[mossy marten]

[winter viper]

Nah it will release the month before the month after this one

The day after that day before the next after tomorrow

[cedar flax]

Reveal this summer they said, within 83 days.

Just make a countdown.

[left rain]

Is there a labs going on currently?

[ebon beacon]

It has just been revealed that the trailer for the new Battlefield will be released some day or time between now and the next 205 days 🙏

[glad trench]

they're going to stealth launch this game in september

[mild girder]

no

[weak obsidian]

a parody MAGA hat in 2025 is so tone deaf

you can't talk shit about CoD if your game looks like the most generic 2020's shooter

[nimble bridge]

CoD reveal proved him right though, people are making fun of BO27 in youtube comments

[weak obsidian]

CoD bad has been the sentiment for like a solid decade

it's preaching to choir

[nimble bridge]

Yeah but this is different, how many more Black Ops and MW games will we get? Will we see Black Ops 30?

[weak obsidian]

same with the I want Titanfall 3 and Halo bad comment lmao

[weak obsidian]

yeah probably

[glad trench]

big fan of kirk lazarus' earlier work

[feral garden]

Call of Duty : Pacific Thunder

[rancid marsh]

no, its more like you have no sense of humor

[weak obsidian]

I'm sorry if your standards are that low

[rancid marsh]

Parodying the most iconic political symbol of the past 10 years is low? Alright bro, butthurt over a hat lol

[glad trench]

it was parodied to death 8 years ago man

[faint pivot]

Those new character models lookin real gritty🔥😮‍💨

[weak obsidian]

overplayed

get new jokes vro 🥀

[weak obsidian]

pax still looks a bit goofy

[faint pivot]

If you’re talking about the 2nd guy with face cover he reminds me still of bfv character models which looked a bit goofy but they look a lot better than they did during the pre alpha

[weak obsidian]

nah talking about the other faction

the brits look pretty snazzy so far

[glad trench]

can't wait for the first leaks of the cosmetic store and this community inevitably loses their mind

[weak obsidian]

I'm expecting a skull mask of some kind

[tall urchin]

I think they already lost their minds over a mined cosmetic that ironically exists IRL

Might not make it to the game, may not even be paid cosmetics, but good luck ever making the denizens of reddit happy

[weak obsidian]

which one was that?

[tall urchin]

I think it was a pistol grip with a skull on it

[mossy marten]

Magwell*

[weak obsidian]

oh yeah... I mean it's goofy but it could be worse

[tall urchin]

Thank you

[nimble bridge]

Nothing wrong with wanting grounded cosmetics tbh

CoD is a clown show now

DICE is more than capable enough to make cool and grounded cosmetics too, I would buy some of the BP cosmetics if they were in store, antivirus Zain for example

[tall urchin]

I agree, a cohesive set of cosmetics is perfectly fine. I personally don't care much about aesthetics but you also still want some level of identity. You see skins for CoD and Fortnite and without context you wouldn't know where they're from.

[boreal harbor]

Yep

[weak obsidian]

they have plenty of grounded options to go for

like units from different nations

[nimble bridge]

Yep

Or copy BF1 and give everyone gas masks and capes 🥰

[weak obsidian]

ponchofield

it would be funny if all the free cosmetics are cold war/GWOT stuff and you have to pay for modern gear

[nimble bridge]

There are some cold war ponchos too so I'm okay with that

[winter viper]

ngl I would LOVE some skins or mastery skins for gadgets

[nimble bridge]

I don't think anyone asks for gold and black colored spawn beacons

[glad trench]

Nah let him cook

All gold med/ammo box too

[stark sentinel]

imagine RGB gaming spawn beacon

[covert nest]

He totally did ask for a golden spawn beacon lol

Woahhhhhh

[azure shuttle]

Hi all, does it breach the NDA contract to see if anyone else is invited via non associated social media? Would like to see if I can create a squad with like minded people?

[mild girder]

yes and you broke the nda with that comment either way

[fleet robin]

yes

can't share that you're in labs, can't talk about labs, nothing along those lines

[azure shuttle]

Cheers peeps 👍🏻

[mild girder]

Next time maybe read the NDA before you ask those questions

[rugged seal]

im sure there are ways to communicate with other people in labs once you get more infomation

[covert nest]

To be fair I dont think its a sin to ask around.

[mild girder]

When you get invited into Labs/BF Workshop, you will get invited to a dedicated Discord for Feedback and Bug Reporting

[mild girder]

Its a sin if you break the NDA tho, Zeus himself will strike them down

[fleet robin]

there is direct contact info to talk to ea about it but idk

i just think people should read more, getting access revoked because you talked about it one too many times doesn't seem worth it

[cedar flax]

That I agree, that game looked generic and boring, forgot about it

[steady robin]

.

[winter viper]

I'm talking about like the RPG or M4 Recoilless etc

[abstract path]

Any news on South America servers? Or are we gonna still be left out like always?

[cedar flax]

How long does it take for the invite to the discord?

[feral garden]

Answering that would be breaking NDA, should one be subject to one.

[sweet yoke]

Has ea announced new bf tests. I haven't heard anything. I'm in North America . If so I'd like to sign up.

Just asking if anything has been announced officially.

[tepid plinth]

No more big tests, no

[sweet yoke]

Thx

[tepid plinth]

They’ll post about it as they did last time if there was

[sweet yoke]

Np. I've been watching summer game fest and other streams with no bf news so. I saw a comment mentioning tests again. Why I asked.

Thx movement.

[half halo]

Anytime now, my invite will come in. I feel it! Only 6 months late, it's almost here!

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/no-denied-deny-reject-rejected-gif-7198686256353431105

[supple vault]

Or not…

[versed token]

and you just lost access

[supple vault]

Ok sweetheart xo

[sweet yoke]

Until anything is mentioned here or by ea officially there are no tests. Stop spreading false info.

[tepid plinth]

There isn’t a 13th month silly

[mossy marten]

goddamn europeans

[faint temple]

@spare wigeon I have heard that from YouTubers

[sweet yoke]

Damn you Europeans. Lol. Lucky ones.

[glad trench]

Dice doesn’t publish publicly what weekends the play tests are. We learn about it from people leaking their invite emails

[nimble bridge]

DICE should release BF6 now

Shadowdrop it

[cobalt gate]

As a C-130 technician I have a dream in which the new battlefield game will feature a C-130H/J or a CH-53 for the purposes of well, tactically airdropping or transporting people or stuff, the Blackhawk with 2 machine guns genuinely isn't enough

Speaking of CH-53 the king stallion is amazing, def better than chinooks imo

[worthy summit]

whens the next playest?

[tepid plinth]

Don’t know and nobody can tell you

[worthy summit]

one Benjamins to someone to get me in,

[wintry haven]

I’ll ask David Sirland for you when I go to his house for brunch today

[severe anvil]

That's a late brunch for David. 😮

[half halo]

Am I blacklisted from the labs? 😔

The courier has yet to come at my door with an invite 😦

[cedar flax]

I'm curious what's a Gan?

[severe anvil]

I don't do anything with the invites, so I wouldn't know. If you haven't done anything that would be really out there I'd assume you've just been unlucky so far.

[nimble bridge]

Please shadowdrop BF6, today

[severe anvil]

Oh look at the time, it's my mum's cousin's daugther's birthday, gotta goooooo.

[severe anvil]

it's a riff on my last name and the word Gunslinger.

[cedar flax]

Aight didn't know if there was something actually or not, I assumed that what it was.

[tepid plinth]

I didn’t even notice it was an a :/

[half halo]

🫡🫡🫡

[gleaming dagger]

why i always got email about update my prefrence for eaplaytesting i already updated it >:(((

[worthy summit]

Thanks for the hookups! ill tip the bouncer too, that's how I skipped the line into the LIV club

[true schooner]

I miss the dlc that had an ac130, that shit went so hard but i wish it had more health

Now that my new pc is up and running i hope i get an invite now. Well tbh i dont think they have mentioned inviting australians (oceania region) just yet

[stiff root]

So someone in reddit mentioned June 17 about battlefield game reveal, would it be true?

Would be cool if the game gets revealed on that date

[tepid plinth]

Don’t go to the bf Reddit today lads

Just a bunch of complainers who don’t spare a second to engage in critical thought

[weak obsidian]

stims...

[rugged seal]

so same as every other day

[tepid plinth]

It feels like the wave of people against them just materialised out of nowhere

[whole warren]

i could be gone for a month and jstnn_ would still be commenting blind hatred nearly every day

[feral garden]

Its cos most people didnt play 2042 after they re-added classes, so dont know that they are not a problem at all (the stim itself)

[tepid plinth]

I saw some pushback when 2042 added them but it fell off pretty quickly

[feral garden]

Recharging stims should 100% go in the garbage can tho

[tepid plinth]

When med pouches in 4, bandages in v all did the same thing

[tepid plinth]

Oh for sure. They should push out, clear the map and have to return once that stim’s used up

[feral garden]

they have a tried and tested stim system in 2042. Spawn with 1 stim, able to resupply another from a crate.

[weak obsidian]

I'm going to blame the first guy that pointed out CoD has it

[tepid plinth]

Those people seem to forget that assaults in bf4 had the same thing in the form of a med pouch, which someone could just use on themselves and never give to anyone else if they chose to

And my word the number of people calling anything about the game cod just drives me up the wall

[feral garden]

Please dont bring logic into the equation here!!!

[tepid plinth]

Also, assaults apparently being the kill hungry selfish ones when engineers were basically only about taking out tanks - hunting for kills - with their only support action being repairs

[weak obsidian]

there is no logic behind these arguments, it's almost enitrely vibes based

[feral garden]

Imagine my shock at a class system that works for how they intend you to play the class/game, instead of some larping roleplay version of how that class might play in real life!!

[tepid plinth]

And based on 144p footage

‘Why no recoil!’
Maybe because they are pulling the mouse down

[feral garden]

Also controller gameplay...which has less by default (I would imagine)

[tepid plinth]

I honestly hope they don’t look at reddit too much

[feral garden]

I wouldnt

[mossy marten]

Same

[tepid plinth]

So anyways, any interesting discussions going on here

[weak obsidian]

I'm just waiting for the official reveal...

[tepid plinth]

We really need another labs post, while often draining at least it’s something new

[weak obsidian]

yeah I wish they posted them more frequently

but they're probably gearing up for an offical reveal

[feral garden]

Im guessing the next one will be class system part 2. Explaining signature weapons, sub classes and class perks.

[tepid plinth]

Oh yeah this was part 1 wasn’t it

[weak obsidian]

wonder if they'll address the feedback regarding weapons

[tepid plinth]

No doubt they’ll mention it

[feral garden]

Almost all of the feedback is useless, as nobody has a full picture on how they work or function

[tepid plinth]

People who haven’t played the game discussing recoil is funny to me

We don’t know how it feels, and control is such a micro level ‘feel’ thing that you can’t determine it based on looks alone

[feral garden]

People be like..."Where is the recoil. I thought they wanted to make it like BF4"

BF4: https://youtu.be/GQ6I2wl7jdA?si=eYlZ85wr8oYi7vSq&t=9

[whole warren]

these same ppl hate bfv, a game with lots of (random) recoil

[whole warren]

i don't think they'll address in the way the ""community"" would want, because a primary reason to bring it up at all was to give time for the reactionary anger to subside before the inevitable reveal.

If it's brought up at all, they will probably just say "here are some further small tweaks we made based on testing" in a sanitized post that does not acknowledge any controversy.

If they are smart about it, they will try to give people the least amount of ammo possible to manufacture a reactionary social media campaign that reaches the eyes and ears of the masses

[weak obsidian]

sounds about right

[feral garden]

Or they will just schedule a beta, tell people to play it themselves and see if their concerns are warranted or not. (My money is on not)

[tepid plinth]

Unless recoil was somehow stronger in bc2 backwards, I wonder what these people were playing to have this view

[weak obsidian]

console

[tepid plinth]

Even though console gets less recoil

[stiff root]

I only visit there to gather some information scrap nothing else

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[mossy marten]

#battlefield-labs-news message

[stiff root]

Wrongly sent, was about to remove that message

[tepid plinth]

I’ve just had a thought

Every single class has a stim in bfV

One class had infinite

[mossy marten]

You're..... Not wrong

[tepid plinth]

But one class having a single stim is ultra bad

[mossy marten]

Very bad

[tepid plinth]

Never mind assaults having infinite stims with med pouches

Okay that’s enough logic

[whole warren]

i remember getting downvoted back in the day because i dared say it was ridiculously unbalanced that one class had infinite super fast heals while everyone else could only fully reheal...once. It was stupidly unbalanced then, but it's fine in BF2042 since everyone can fully reheal on their own over time.

[feral garden]

Everyone can regen health in games before 2042 also. BFV being the exception

[whole warren]

it's really funny how when that "stim" feature was at its worst (bfv attrition), far less people complained about it. Guess they were distracted by other complaints, even though i'd argue that was the biggest gameplay related problem in BFV's life

I don't play BF2042 much, but I've never even noticed people using stims. Outside of BFV they don't have a big impact like ppl think they do

[feral garden]

You didnt regen heal back to full health in BFV, so it was less of an issue. More of a required mechanic

[whole warren]

I think I was misunderstood, I'm saying the entire system was terribly unbalanced. The stims (medpacks) in BFV were horribly unbalanced because you couldn't fully regen health lol

It made it mandatory to play Medic if you wanted to flank, otherwise you were at a big disadvantage

[feral garden]

I mean, that was the entire point of BFV soldier attrition. You heal back to 60, but need a medkit to heal the rest. At launch you spawned with no medkit and had to get them from medics, or supply stashes. It, along with ammo scarcity, was intended to make medic and support players more essential.

This was changed post launch (as most people hated it), and every player spawned with 1

[whole warren]

Correct, I'm saying that whole system was terribly unbalanced.

[feral garden]

Unbalanced in what way?

[tall urchin]

Attrition was horrible and did the opposite of what they were intending to fix. They wanted people to spawn and die loop less but attrition actually hinders good players who die less by limiting their health, which is why everyone avoided the issue by just healing themselves as medic.

[feral garden]

A learned lesson for sure. I guess it showed them that you cant force players too play a certain way, simply by limiting them in certain ways

[mossy marten]

"This is not "shooter" this is battlefield If you want "shooter" there is a game called call of duty apex legends Fortnite delta force"

[whole warren]

Forced to zerg with all the blueberries unless you were Medic in pub matches. Flank as anything else and you'd be at a severe disadvantage after 1-2 fights since you would have little to no access to med kits.

[feral garden]

Arent all other players under the same constraints tho. I think unbalanced is the wrong word

[whole warren]

It's the definition of unbalanced as only 3/4 classes have the same restriction. This is made even worse if you go up against Medics while flanking as anything besides Medic lol

[mild girder]

Idk and no one could tell u since that info is under nda

[cedar flax]

Damn bro, that was yesterday, if you took the time to reply to that, you could've taken the time to see someone already said that.

[grand cloak]

Do they have ucav in battlefield 6

[sand moth]

omg ucav... no !!!! lol

[rugged seal]

#1375428094361468991

[fierce bridge]

Thank you

[feral garden]

🫡

[fierce bridge]

🫶🏻

[tired gyro]

[slender island]

i wanna play bf lab!!!Why haven't I received my testing qualification yet！！

[crimson moss]

Its a pretty garbage system yes

[hollow cosmos]

I swear they should have BF labs rolling for July 4th -the 24th

[severe vessel]

The recruitment for this test started on the 6th. It's already the 12th now, so the qualification has long expired.

Is there a test at the end of June?

[vestal parcel]

Soooo I guess play test haven’t reached the series X yet? Still no email 🙄😭

[rugged seal]

or you just havent been selected

[vestal parcel]

Been signed up for over 2 months. Ripping my eyes out atp. #unhinged

[versed token]

You're not guaranteed an invite

[vestal parcel]

Obviously

[empty yoke]

does 6's work identically to BFVs? like is there a cooldown on usage, and does it stop healing if you get shot?

it is weird assault gets it but tbh the classes in general are weird this time around imo

[paper mortar]

This BF6 could have a lot more potential with these:

• Military Motorcycles (BF3)
• Pickup Weapons (BF4)
• Flamethrower (One of the pickup weapons, along with the DAO12 and M98B)
• Crossbow
• Thermal Sights of various types
• Sticky Bomb (BF1)
• Red Flare (BF4)
• Weather Effects (Rain, snow, or lightning, not tornadoes)
• Frontal Slash Return Animation (BF4)
• Grenade Return Animation
• Patrol Upgrades (Sprint, ammo, cover, explosives, like in BF3 and BF4)

Do you think we'll see this in the game?

[versed token]

No

[feral garden]

Should they return?

• Military Motorcycles (BF3) - Don't see why not
• Pickup Weapons (BF4) - Yes
• Flamethrower - Hell no, less cheesy weapons please
• Crossbow - Don't see why not
• Thermal Sights of various types - Yes, but extremely high cost
• Sticky Bomb (BF1) - No
• Red Flare (BF4) - Don't see the point
• Weather Effects (Rain, snow, or lightning, not tornadoes) - Yes, but not tornados, just dynamic weather
• Frontal Slash Return Animation (BF4) - Absolutely not
• Grenade Return Animation - Yes
• Patrol Upgrades (Sprint, ammo, cover, explosives, like in BF3 and BF4) - None that change sprint or damage taken from small arms

[versed token]

This will probably get you banned if anything

[rotund pier]

I’d say the frontal melee should make a comeback if there was a helldivers-like mechanism but that’d be so gimmicky

[feral garden]

Na, it should die with BF4

https://tenor.com/view/akiyama-kiryu-kazuma-kazuma-kiryu-heat-action-qte-gif-25627482

[rotund pier]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-hd2-osu-mania-mania-gif-11649632839521837797

Not FAIR
I WANT EMBEDS TOO

[trail scaffold]

why exactly ?

[feral garden]

Youre the one who brought this up?

[trail scaffold]

Bro we are millionairs around here , we can buy DICE , what do you think of when you hear middle east .? one of the most beautiful places on earth bro ? and we do especially me love BATTLEFEIELD

[feral garden]

What?

[trail scaffold]

can i send pictures in this group ?

love the uniform graphics gameplay is amazing. they just need to get back to the LOCKED classes and weapons

the game looks promising and i think it will be one of the best but just REVEAL IT GUYS ALREADY - we want it to be released THIS YEAR !!!!

[rugged seal]

[whole warren]

[versed token]

They would break their NDA by telling you that

[digital spire]

Anyone else here that saw the weird numbers and skull in JackFrags recent BF video outro?

[tough zinc]

yes and idk what that means and I dont want to lose my brain trying to understand, I'll just wait for the reveal

[rotund pier]

It pisses me off that big youtubers always act like “oh I don’t know anything, wonder what this is, oh I haven’t played it”
Like I know you’ve signed an NDA stop pretending bruh 😭

[feral garden]

Knows they have signed an NDA > wants them to stop pretending

I dont think any of them should break their NDA/risk removal

[nimble bridge]

If you don't give stims or something equivalent to assault then people won't play as assault, they will use support for self healing

No idea why people are so mad about it, assault has no purpose in the current class system anyways, taking away it's stims will make it completely useless

[feral garden]

It has a purpose, just not one that greatly syncs with the other classes...in the way other classes sync with it and each other

Basically...

Assault > Get kills
Support > Get kills, resupply, heal, revive, reinforce
Engineer > Get kills, destroy armor, repair armor
Recon > Get kills, spot enemies, help spawn your squad safely

Id like to see assault be given more team/squad play utility outside just getting kills

[versed token]

They're adding tools to the assault so they can destroy cover more easily

But engineer can already do that pretty effectively

Plus all the vehicles

[feral garden]

Yeah, it doesnt feel terribly unique.

Will have to wait for more info in future.

[glad trench]

Do the other classes have smoke launcher?

[tepid plinth]

well, with weapon restrictions they could make the other classes less potent at killing, which is what made it feel unique in the first place

[verbal crypt]

I haven’t been in this chat in over a week and the first thing I see is some guy saying his country can buy DICE what the fuck lmfao

[whole warren]

The additional potency for killing infantry comes from the anti infantry gadgets. When it comes to guns, that's not modern players expect or want out of gun balancing though. Gun balance is expected to be an even playing field

[whole warren]

"country" is a bit of a stretch.

[feral garden]

Thats worse than how it is now IMO

[tepid plinth]

I don't see how it's that bad. It sounded to me like a solution to your point

if i'm an engie with a pdw i'd hide away from fights I can't contest, let assaults take it instead. So assaults become the primary infantry killers

[feral garden]

All that would do is make assault the go to class by default

When their goal is to make players play the class for their gear, this is not a good direction. But at the same time, they seem to want assault to be the infantry killer "sweats" choice...its simply my opinion that assault should have more pronounced teamplay elements outside of kills.

I think something like a deployable cover would work well on assault.

[tall urchin]

Killing is teamplay

[feral garden]

Read previous posts first. IMO, its not enough

[tall urchin]

Killing is one of the best teamplay aspects. It creates space for people to move, it takes pressure off engineers from getting shot while repairing or engaging armour, it allows objectives to be taken, and it reduces opponents tickets.

[feral garden]

Ive not debated kills not being essential. If thats what they want it to be, im fine with it. I would just prefer it be different.

[sweet yoke]

So many are getting anxious for bf6. Ea really needs to capitalize on it and do something. Showcase anything.

You can feel the excitement honestly. No announcement or anything about BF6 with everyone else doing showcases. The silence about what's next for bf6 is odd to me.

[mossy marten]

"Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet"

[sweet yoke]

True visual. Very true.

[whole warren]

I like that idea, but I'm not sure how to give them a teamplay element that they cannot swap out. If they can swap it out they will, so it has to be mandatory lol

[feral garden]

I dont think it needs to be mandatory

[whole warren]

Then they will swap it out

[feral garden]

I think you can give a class ability potential, that is not necesarily a requirement to playing the expected role.

Like recon having optional demo charges, drone, or Support having optional MP APS

[whole warren]

i just think it will end up like BF1 Medic rifle nades. If it does not aid in killing, and it's not mandatory, then they will swap it out

[feral garden]

The idea of a deployable cover on Assault I think would be viable for both assault playstyles, and teamplay for example

[mossy marten]

know what assault needs?
a grapple hook

[feral garden]

Deployable cover is like Dozer, but less annoying as is not mobile. Imagine how a dozer would play on a map like Redacted, if they are able to push a lane, place cover, allowing them to "Assault", while also allowing their team to push up.

[whole warren]

If it's an optional gadget, it will immediately have the lowest pick rate of any Assault gadget

[feral garden]

?

[tall urchin]

I think a better idea is a zipline launcher. Allows you to get a horizontal movement speed increase and traverse across gaps but won't let you abuse getting to vertical points otherwise unreachable.

[tepid plinth]

I’ve liked the idea of giving them med kits instead of syringes to make them more of a medic role

[feral garden]

So will defib be less picked on support, or rockets on engineer as they are "Optional"

IMO, a lot of assault players would take a deployable cover, which will shield them from harm. I know I would.

[whole warren]

Assault players only want to kill. If they have access to anything like grenade launchers or shotguns they will immediately see those as more desirable options

If it's immobile, they won't want it

[feral garden]

So your opinion is that they should further try to make assault the sweats dream?

And not in any way give them capability to assist their team mates, outside of just getting kills

[tepid plinth]

Although in general I find in all bf games I play between each of the classes evenly enough to where even if it was the main infantry killer I’d still play other roles, so I find it harder to view from that perspective

I’ve always considered assault to be the ones pushing enemies away, which med kits acts as a way to get the rest of the team to move up with them, and if that progress up the map is marked by medkits then people may start to see the kit for the benefits they actually offer

[whole warren]

oh no no. I'm saying you will have to force them to take a teamplay option

if it's forced upon them, they will use it simply because they have it

[feral garden]

I dont think you need to force it. Im fine with assault as is (Role wise)...I just hope they get the ablity to assist the team in ways other than kills. If not, its a class ill end up never playing.

Id prefer for all classes to have some usability to me.

[whole warren]

I'm thinking under the same logic as Medic being forced to have a revive option after BF1

[tepid plinth]

Assaults in bfV were still kill hunters but just targeted vehicles, but that helps the team does it not? Even if you have a selfish assault hunting tanks for kills it still benefits. I’m not sure how they could make an infantry killer class have the same response from people when taking out people is still stopping them killing other teammates

Like sure every class can kill, assaults do it better and tanks can only be damaged by assaults, but idk how to get that same dynamic with modern assault kits

Unless other classes become weak at killing like other kits are weaker against tanks

[feral garden]

In a combined arms game, yes. Killing vehicles, and killing infantry is important.

[steady robin]

.

[whole warren]

I'm honestly not sure if I agree with the killing of the Assault Engineer combo. I think the problem is that they wanted to combine Support and Medic more, which means that they would be down to 3 classes

Imo we are effectively down to 3 class roles, with Assault being an anti-role of sorts

[feral garden]

IMO they want to optimize how teamplay works and how games flow...by combining ammo and meds into the new crate.

Shitty ammo and heal provisions have always been a problem in every BF game. Which is compounded by those those two things being the responsibility of two separate players/ classes. This change has potential to solve it, but at the cost of making the Assault a weird anti-infantry role

[whole warren]

I think 2042 kinda shows why an anti infantry class doesn'twork in practice. Everyone regardless of class is already anti infantry. I think DICE wants their role to specifically be to break through lines, but in practice that's not possible since you just get canceled out by the assaults on the other team lol

[ruby shell]

I need my BF6 fix

BF2042 is broken, gimme gimme gimme a playtest!

[severe anvil]

Make sure you sign up for playtests if you haven't done so far! 🙂

[ruby shell]

done so and just checked the site, dont see any listed there >< but saw someone post about there being alpha starting tomorrow

#1335998561820872824 message

[severe anvil]

The playtests are under NDA, so any info posted in this server that's not directly from EA can be seen as speculation from other users.

[ruby shell]

aaah makes sense, thank you!

[tough zinc]

he means he hates when they just dont clearly say "Im under nda so I wont say anything" instead of pretending they have not played the game or wondering how the game would be etc.

just to make content and videos about it

[feral garden]

Doing that breaks said NDA

[ruby shell]

I think the point of the NDA would be you can't even say you were involved...that would break the terms

[tough zinc]

bruh

but still you're acting innocent

just stay silent at that point

[feral garden]

Innocent of what? Should BF creators just not make videos on BF until DICE decide to share info? Meanwhile others not potentially part of a program are allowed free reign to cover everything?

They are just "Playing the game" and by the rules.

[glad trench]

McKay, Sundance and Zain are the best flankers in the game…?

[feral garden]

probably read your emails, then delete this comment

[glad trench]

Zain with his passive and airburst is a literal one man army

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-man-checking-email-crazy-gif-25716692

[ruby shell]

based on that thread I guess I won't get into playtest 😦

[feral garden]

Its even funnier when people come here and break their NDA...while also having their platform user account linked on their discord. Might as well ask to be removed

[mossy marten]

[mild girder]

Those are the best and just ask for the ban lol

[feral garden]

Maybe that message should be updated to remove the parts about the 72 hour test, and make it more general to labs in and of itself

[ruby shell]

@severe anvil may I dm you a question?

[mossy marten]

true

[severe anvil]

Sorry, don't do DMs, also not working on anything related to Battlefield Labs invites.

[ruby shell]

okay no worries, i'll try to word it correctly here:
or if it is on PC, then it will automatically appear in your library to the account you signed up for. AGAIN, read your email instructions.

• to this point, if you've signed up for playtesting this will happen? OR is it ONLY if you received an email and responded to it?

I just realized you probably wont be able to answer it hahah as per your caveat

[mild girder]

You need to accept the invite for Labs aka RSVP that session and then it will be added

[severe anvil]

The process is pretty straight forward and completely doable without any discussions in this Discord. 😉 Just need to make sure to read the emails and follow the process.

[feral garden]

*allegedly

[mild girder]

If you don’t get a invite with information regarding how to gain access or when it will happen, you won’t get it

[ruby shell]

thank you all!

[feral garden]

to be fair...its one of those things where its straight forward if you know whats going to happen next. But you arent actually ever told (Allegedly) whats going to happen next.

[mild girder]

That’s how previous playtests went that are already over and the product is released worked (at least for me and I am allowed to talk about it since the products are released)

But idk why so many people keep asking the same old question which everything is clearly stated in the mails, which has been said multiple times…. People really don’t like to read these days. Either Brainrot got to them or lazy af

[whole warren]

one can presume that if they received an invite then they received all necessary info and simply need to read it

[mild girder]

Nah, that would never happen. Gotta ask the discord

[feral garden]

Im of the opinion that the labs warning channel should actually document the process of signing up better than it already does. You dont lose anything by informing people of what they can expect during the process of selection and RSVP'ing.

Because its VERY clear that people have no patience, and are not being given the info they feel they need

[mild girder]

Tbh, I doubt they are dumb enough to not mention anything they need when they get invited. I NEVER had any issues or question regarding upcoming playtests and EVERYTHING was being told in the mails

It’s like they want a mail with a big text saying “YOU CAN PLAY IN 5 HOURS” and nothing else

[steady robin]

.

[ruby shell]

the reason I was asking was because I did not receive an email and was coping lol

[steady robin]

Bad Company 2 - Best BF

[severe anvil]

The amount of people making it through the process to join Labs and those that end up asking questions here is vastly different and in favor of the ones participating in the test. It unfortunately comes down to "how often can we post the same information until the very last person will read it". I get that it can be annoying when people ask the same questions over and over but it's part of a closed playtest system, I'm afraid.

[mild girder]

Yea and with labs being promoted publicly, it made this situation worse in my opinion. If they would have kept it more secret, less people would have just signed up bc they wanna play the next BF and have no real experience how playtests and nda’s work. But then they would also probably have less players but less headaches

[whole warren]

it's just my opinion but i do not think it's DICE or EA's responsibility to fix the education crisis in the US

[mild girder]

Sadly, it’s not a US Only issue

Covid made people much dumber, the free time everyone got was too much

[whole warren]

you ain't wrong

[severe anvil]

We needed a critical mass of users to test. You can think about it (and these are made up numbers) in a way where if you invite 10.000 people only 1000 will show up for a test. So if you need to really test servers for example and you need 5000 people you have to invite appropriately.

[ruby shell]

okay, so where are people supposed to go to for BF labs questions if not the discord? that is pointed to when signing up? I don't think people are dumber, maybe lazier? come to the source where you can get an answer quickly even if it's not the place to get an answer

[mild girder]

Yea I get that it’s a issue with needing a lot of active players and if they would just send a invite without announcing it, it would take much longer to gather feedback and especially from all different skill ranges

[severe anvil]

Again, there's a full process that you have to follow when you get invited to Labs, that includes contact options.

[ruby shell]

ignorance on my part is not bliss, because I want in!

[whole warren]

(this is why updating preferences increases your chances, as it shows you are active)

[ruby shell]

but that makes sense that all the info would be in the email

[mild girder]

In the FAQ they stated that they get a dedicated server that is private aka BF Workshop. This has also been said from T0TALfps on Reddit because many people got confused and he explained the difference from the real labs and the stress test

[ruby shell]

aaaaah thank you for clarifying

[mild girder]

Tbh, I don’t think it works that way since most things in there don’t change at all during these years (at least for me)

It should consider u as active if you sign up for other playtest, send feedback etc, that that you update your preferences

But idk how it works or if they can even track it

[gleaming dagger]

SEA people doesnt even get into the invite pool 😭

[half halo]

I've updated them countless of time by now, still no invites

[whole warren]

lol i think it's just a one time thing

[ruby shell]

so this BF Labs discusssion channel is to discuss the BF Labs news stuff and a place for all us Playtest exiles to wallow in self pity 😐

[severe anvil]

We also post updates to keep everybody outside of the test informed. That's also discussed on here as well.

[unkempt plover]

Imo, Focusing on inviting players who actually already have played some of the previous Battlefield titles would result in a bigger turnout for the tests. One would think that this would result in less leaks as well, people who cares about their EA accounts and loves the franchise are less likely to break an NDA. But that's just my opinion.

[ruby shell]

I appreciate how you didn't disagree with the self pity bit lol

I would be playing BF2042 every day if it didn't stutter every 2 seconds 😐

[severe anvil]

It's difficult to give you a meaningful reply to his but I just want to make it clear that we've invited a wide variety of players and there are a ton of people that have played every Battlefield ever and for a lot of time. We just can't invite everybody that fits that profile. I totally understand that it can be frustrating to watch some of the leaked footage and think to yourself that you a) would play way better and b) would be super eager to provide feedback. It's a flawed system but unfortunately a perfect one doesn't exist. I appreciate the passion and hope you understand we're not excluding anybody to make them feel bad.

[ruby shell]

❤️ appreciate it Ganslinger

on the note of every battlefield ever, bring back Commanders and Titans from BF2142

[tepid current]

Is there a chance to get in?

[severe anvil]

Yep, you can still sign up for it: https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[ruby shell]

Titans were some of the best times i've had in BF, and we could use an Aircraft Carrier as the Titan, where you have people using planes to get to the other side or there could be a central landmass between the two carriers/titans

[tepid current]

Did that long time ago. I mean by contacting one of you guys and tell why I think I'm suited for this.

[severe anvil]

I don't have anything to do with invites to the program and we select people based on needs and profiles that were submitted in the sign-up. No need to add anything to that. As I said above, we can't invite everyone.

[ruby shell]

and there was a pretty nice Aircraft Carrier interior that could be used from BF4 (that mission was amazing btw)

[tepid current]

Thanks for that anyways. Let's keep hoping for a chance to build Battlefield together 🙂

[severe anvil]

And just to also make it clear: Once the game is out at some point in the future that I cannot reveal, we're not done improving it. You'll have plenty of time to give feedback!

[ruby shell]

release date incoming!

[tepid plinth]

And if 2042’s post feedback opportunities are anything like them it should be good

I had a blast writing as much as I did for those

[tepid current]

I know and that's a good thing 🙂

[tepid plinth]

Makes sense why people feel this way though.

People want game they can enjoy, and to achieve that there’s nobody better to give feedback than themselves, so exclusion feels like the state of the game will be put in someone else’s hands

But if it worked out like that it would be impossible to manage

[mild girder]

Do you have any info if there will be a Community Post regarding the Stress Test and how the Servers performed? Would love to know more about it

[mild girder]

(you probably arent even allowed to say anything even if there will be a post :c)

[severe anvil]

I think that's a good question, I'll check with the team. I don't know if there's a ton of content outside of "This was good, this was bad" but there might be? Good suggestion!

[mild girder]

Fingers crossed on this one 🙏

[ruby shell]

im assuming there was/will be a survey after each test, hopefully allows for long form feedback, but I can see in some cases where that wouldn't be warranted ie. stress test

[mild girder]

No what i meant is that i wanna know if the Servers were able to hold the heavy load over the 72 hours, what they learned from it and if they have something to improve till the launch or next Stress Test

[severe anvil]

There are multiple ways we collect feedback from the test, yep. For stress testing there's not much that we would get out of a survey, as the underlying infrastructure stuff isn't visibile to players.

[tepid plinth]

Just hearing anything about the game is good enough for me

The labs blog posts are fun discussion sessions (when people are actually having decent discussions)

[ruby shell]

yeah vs. no constructive feedback

[glad trench]

“BF Vets deserve an invite” 🤓

[ruby shell]

I mean, it makes sense, they are likely to play more, be more invested in the game having played most if not all titles, so I can see where he's coming from

but I wouldn't go so far as deserve, but prioritized imo because they are your biggest fans

[tepid plinth]

Would be very good to bring new people in too as it’ll let them experiment with ways to better tutorialise and push supportive actions, as most new people probably wouldn’t be used to working with others in any capacity, even though bf offers little teamwork to begin with

[ruby shell]

valid point, best of both worlds to have some new some old 😄

[unkempt plover]

Did I write that? Bigger turnout for the tests if "Battlefield players" gets invited to the Battlefield labs playtest. Less leaks/NDA breaches if players have an EA account that they maybe have sunken thousands of hours in. That was what I wrote. No more, no less.

[half halo]

I just hope there won't be special dog tags (or calling cards) or whatever for those Who were lucky enough to be taking part in playtests since March...

Otherwise, as one of the unlucky here, my completionist OCD will be crying 😭

[clever mirage]

Deadass... I remember bf4 had one for playing the beta, but fair enough, everyone could get one

[half halo]

There were alpha/Beta/CTE dog tags in BF1 and also for closed alpha, open beta for BFV.

[clever mirage]

F

[rotund pier]

Oh boy, a scam

[faint pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/V59GOlyee2

point made

[tall urchin]

Not really, it's disingenuous because no one is asking for Apex movement

[faint pivot]

No where is it mentioning apex legends movement lol no one wants apex movement. Did you even read the article and comments?

[scenic owl]

can we expect a full reveal this year?

[tall urchin]

The fact V and BF1 are even grouped is a joke, BF1 probably has less movement than milsims.

[faint pivot]

You must not understand the chart lol

[pulsar shard]

You guys are saying the same about Bad company 2

[tall urchin]

It's poorly formulated, based on unfounded beliefs and understandings of each game's mechanics, and ignores the history of titles with movement

[pulsar shard]

ohh the movement is too slow its a milsim

[weak obsidian]

at least most milsims have high movement granularity

[tall urchin]

BC2 was slow and especially clunky, yes. The only thing that offset it was a slightly higher TTK comparatively but its movement was very limited.

[thorny olive]

I hope there are a few Conquest Assault maps in BF6.

[clear viper]

I disagree

Conquest assault sucks and is a dead game mode.

[crude atlas]

i dont need call of duty movement in bf but wouldnt mind being able to slide or duck in to cover when shot at just like i seen people do in the leaks

[stiff crown]

Cod movement isn't that fast imo

Right now the difference is like the dive and that's about it

[weak obsidian]

the only crazy thing is like being able to slide backwards and shit

[stiff crown]

Oh yeah forgot about that, yeah that's stupid