battlefield-labs-discussion

[fleet robin]

i think the animations are fine

about what we should expect given most shooters have gone in that direction

[weak obsidian]

they're okay, kinda wish they continued with the BFV animation style instead of the 2042 one

[tepid plinth]

I’m keen to see who the soundtrack artists are for this next game

[sharp quarry]

It never shows I don’t think

[ebon delta]

Me too. I'm super anxious to see who will be doing the music.

[tepid plinth]

heard BF1's soundtrack on classic FM radio the other night, really is such a golden ost. I desperately want that energy back

[coral crystal]

[neat estuary]

It amazes me how resistant the public is to “being quiet” about something 😂😂

[misty anvil]

Is Battlefield™ Labs Are Still In Development?

[neat estuary]

Yep

Still pre alpha

[versed token]

Nah bro it's the final game

[rotund pier]

With the placeholder textures

[flint atlas]

its a marketing move to flood socials with content

[neat estuary]

Or people just like hype and excitement cloud their thinking

Or both

[nova cloak]

[sharp quarry]

[naive coyote]

Battlefield Labs is the game

[tranquil torrent]

I am trying to make the survey, but the server isn't working. First try on monday, till today and nothing...
Web page say:
"This survey is not accepting additional responses at this time. Thank you!"

[tepid plinth]

means its closed

[feral garden]

If only it gave you information as to the status of itself. I guess we will never know!!

[native blaze]

When's the next play test im dying over here

[versed token]

If you know you know

[nimble bridge]

These are the people they are inviting to playtest the game 😭

[neat estuary]

Depressing isnt it?

[neat estuary]

You’ll live

[native blaze]

You right

[fickle hemlock]

Will there be a new date for testing? i had to work last weekend so missed the email..

[neat estuary]

Nothing has been announced

[mossy marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1krdry4/comment/mtcru2q/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[fickle hemlock]

okay thanks! i will check my (game)mail every hour for the next few weeks.

[cobalt geyser]

Im like you

[neat estuary]

That’s better than asking a thousand times in here about it 😂👍

[fickle hemlock]

people still do that ?

[neat estuary]

Were you not around in here all of last week?

[fickle hemlock]

Nope i had a tournament and alot of work last week.

[neat estuary]

Be grateful. It was all brain dead idiots with zero reading comprehension or critical thinking skills/common sense

Oh and they get butt hurt very easily 😂

[neat estuary]

Have you noticed those same idiots haven’t popped back in the Discord after the weekend was over 😂😂

[fickle hemlock]

Hahaha lol

[neat estuary]

Gotta sign up for labs and EA play tests

Nope. Just have to keep a better eye on your email

[upbeat matrix]

will people that already got access to bf 6 get access to the following play tests?

[round tusk]

Is BF6 confirmed for 2026 release??

[mellow acorn]

Can

[upbeat matrix]

thx

[neat estuary]

You have to sign up again if there’s another test

[neat estuary]

That’s the goal “supposedly”

[mossy marten]

no, you would have to be reinvited to Labs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1krdry4/comment/mtcru2q/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[upbeat matrix]

how do I know there will be another test?

I signed up for this last big playtest months ago

[mellow acorn]

You'll get an email if you're invited

[upbeat matrix]

ah nvm, I need to be reinvited, I do not need to sign up again for BF Labs nvm, got it

[mellow acorn]

Yep

[neat estuary]

You still have to register through EA play test against if there’s another test. That’s the “sign up” so that they can invite you if they choose to

And no, you won’t know when the next test is unless it pops up in your EA play test account

[upbeat matrix]

ahhhhh ok

[neat estuary]

Or EA emails you about it

[mellow acorn]

You don't, guy posted 2 links already

[upbeat matrix]

if they email me that is fine then

[mellow acorn]

And com manager said you drop back into pool unless you broke nda

[upbeat matrix]

regardless, as long as I get an email saying I need to sign up or that I was invited again it is all fine xdd

[neat estuary]

Looks like we have someone who can read in here. About d@mn time

[mellow acorn]

Sure ain't you pal

[neat estuary]

I didn’t realize links had been posted. My bad 🤷‍♂️

[upbeat matrix]

SHEEEESH

[neat estuary]

So far I can tell you and I ain’t gonna get along most likely 😂👍

[upbeat matrix]

I bet you caress each other for hours

[mellow acorn]

If you can look up one guy's comment you should be able to see the links back to back

[neat estuary]

Oh the Reddit link? Won’t lie I didn’t click on it to read. So yea, my bad.

[neat estuary]

It’s the internet. Always one.

[mellow acorn]

[neat estuary]

You been spying on us??

[upbeat matrix]

maybe

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

[loud harness]

agreed

crazy how many things bf 5 did right

[jovial ingot]

i'm just hoping the release date for BF6 is around september/october
Cause there's NO SHOT they are releasing it in 2026 now.
And there's a very low chance they will release it after the holidays/black friday. So that wipes out December/ most of November.

I imagine EA has a failsafe for this kind of situation and is all hands on deck to finish out the game much MUCH sooner than anticipated.
Because i imagine they have at least 6+months of DLC/Events/Skins they are wanting to release or have in the pipeline.

[mossy marten]

And I hope they don't rush the game and have another 2042 on their hands
Team Feb/Mar 2026

[verbal crypt]

I’ve been feeling march in my bones

[sweet yoke]

The only thing that sucks is the playtest is over. Had an absolute blast. Cannot wait for release.

[lilac lava]

There will be at least one more closed alpha playtest before the Summer Festival {it could be two, but I think only one more}.

The official trailer will be released at the Summer Festival, and pre-orders will be available from then on.

The closed beta will start around August or September, followed shortly by the open beta.

I'd say the release window is between November and December.

[potent pine]

battlefield launch? without being barebones and full of bugs and missing content???? wtf....

[jovial ingot]

I can promise you on every fiber of my being they will NEVER release THAT close to GTA 6. I would be so shocked that it would make my jaw hit the floor harder than a nuke.
The game will be DEAD a month or two after it's released.
Trust me GTA6 is the great equalizer, alpha and omega terminator of games in this industry.
Nobody is challenging them that is a big AAA developer. Because it will destroy their financial plans and even battlefield community itself.
Battlefield 3 and 1, which had WAY WAY harder hype around it made 200-300 million it's first week i believe total revenue and that's generous rounding up.

GTA 5 made 1.3 billion in literally the first WEEK.
and 2-3 billion it's first year.

[glad trench]

It’s not 2016 anymore, publishers aren’t slaves to a holiday release date

[sweet yoke]

I think Gta will get delayed again.

[glad trench]

Feb/March -> May (assuming it doesn’t get delayed and actually releases on pc/console at the same time) is a 2-3 month window where games usually lose most of their initial playerbase until new content drops regardless

[jovial ingot]

that's true, but we are assuming that people will pay for both games at the same time.
There's a cause and effect ripple that comes from sales outside of just the player count window.
It's also the amount of parents/kids/users that will spend $100 or another $100 so close to each other when we all know that every neighbor and their DOG is going to be talking about it in group chats and friend groups.
I know it might sound far fetched but I think there's no chance it releases in 2026.
That's when all the parents money is burned up in a very rough year of 2025 inflation.

why do you think GTA6 is coming out in May of all times?
Cause that's when summer starts for 99% of all schools and that's when kids/teens/adults are the most likely to be talking amongst themselves and socializing every minute. Not being part of that group will be the most isolating social experience I imagine of 2026.

[glad trench]

Because Rockstar pushing it back a year+ gives them plenty of space to breathe on it along with the ability to delay it again if needed.

You also have this assumption that once GTA comes out, that’s all people will play for months. When in reality it’ll be like every other Rockstar release, break every sales record imaginable the first week, people play it for a ~2-3 weeks then go back to whatever multiplayer game they regularly play

And again, with Rockstar’s track record, there’s a good chance PC doesn’t see the game til Holiday 2026 or later

[jovial ingot]

I do and that’s the good thing about both of our points of view. Many possibilities to consider. But the reason I have my strong stance that this game won’t be as flippant with player retention is because it generates as much player and economic attention as it does Political and social attention.
The amount of times in 2013-2015 that “video games cause violent behavior” was posted with GTA 5 being the headline example of scenarios you can do in game will cause just as much outrage and commentary and interest. It’s a bias but one that I believe EA wouldn’t test. Knowing who they are.

[crimson moss]

Im 80% certain even if its bug free that community ruined the game

[glad trench]

Most people play GTA for the single player campaign. They’ll play it for 2-3 weeks then move on while the dedicated GTA online (we don’t know if gta online will release or work at launch either) players will stay.

You can go look at the playerbase trends from GTAV and RDR2 releases.

Will it remain pop culturally relevant long after that… yes, will it dominate every game and create a dead zone of gaming 1-2 months post release, no

[jovial ingot]

yeah that's the big question and my biggest fear. I think EA wants battlefield to be a live service fortnite type competitor with warzone as well. And to necessitate that environment they want a large LONG window to keep player retention very high and hopefully please investors.
Cause EA is not a company that makes decisions on when games are polished and run well and might sell better with more positive reviews.
They sell purely on maximum returns for investors.
And battlefield is their eyesore and their big talking point

would EA rather sell close to GTA 6 and only have 1-3 months of good player retention in 2026. Or would they rather have nearly 6 months to give BF6 every chance it can to burn this cash cow they claim to investors during peak holiday season when spending is the highest and game activity is the highest.

[mint cobalt]

I have to come here and ask because of the surge of people coming back to Battlefront 2,

Have EA and or Dice planned on Adding EA Anti Cheat yet, for that title? Because 1. I hope they do it as soon as possible, and 2. I hope it doesn’t interfere with their development for BF6, whether it’s taking time to add EA Anti Cheat, or EA being overly ambitious and taking half of the BF6 devs to work on Battlefront 3

[minor linden]

Don't worry. They are 100% not cutting anything from bf6 to work on Battlefront. Bf6 is their big cash cow so cutting any devs from it just isn't a possibility for them

[weak obsidian]

I doubt they're making another Battlefront

apparently bullets spawn from the barrel in 4 and I presume 1 as well

[glad trench]

EA no longer has the exclusive Star Wars rights

Nor do they own the battlefront IP

And they sure as shit not using resources on Battlefront 2

[fringe whale]

Battlefront 3 is a cursed title

[tall urchin]

And EA just closed another studio.

[minor linden]

Cliffhanger?

[glad trench]

Ya, BF6 is going to be a live service. Their live service plans and aspirations DO NOT MATTER if they game launches poorly. Whether that's 6 months from GTA releasing or 3 months. Even with live services, you have declining player numbers between the beginning of seasons/content drops regardless, that's just he way the world works.

DICE/EA can easily release BF6 3 months before GTA, have a 1 month long "pre-season" during the launch window then release the first season, giving them two months in the clear until GTA releases. They can then wait 1-2 months until after GTA's release to drop the next season.

People will come back because it's NEW content

[tepid plinth]

Which are skins!

Right?

[glad trench]

drip is the end game

[lone mantle]

I mean sure, but it's better to not be even in the same year as GTA 6. GTA 6 will leech player numbers off of every single other game.

[glad trench]

okay, y'all need to go do some baseline level research. GTA6 isn't going to create some mystical reality where people don't play other games for a year

the main experience is a single player campaign, most people will be done playing it within a few weeks after launch

[faint pivot]

Enough said

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/hL5vgvrv3v

[mossy marten]

I don't hear a single mention of class locked weapons
I only heard "getting score not by just shooting people, but also supportive actions" and then the last 75% of the video is talking about destruction

[glad trench]

He mentions BC2 being the perfect class configuration but then they go on to change it in BF3

[faint pivot]

Ehhh it doesn’t take rocket science to understand the battlefields he’s mentioning had class locked weapons which were some of the best ones in the franchise, I’d suggest ea and dive watch their old employees interviews, they can learn a thing or two

[glad trench]

then talks about destruction the rest of the time

[glad trench]

this is what CTE looks like people

[mossy marten]

That's also true
Then it changes for bf4, and then bf1, and then bfv

[faint pivot]

He talks about what makes battlefield battlefield lol

He’s spitting facts regardless lol

[glacial orchid]

that was 15 years ago. A lot has changed lol

[glad trench]

BF6 has destruction, vehicles, teamplay, classes

everything he talks about is still there

[mossy marten]

As did every BF except 2042
Can throw BF4 into that mix since each class had 4 weapon categories to choose from instead of 1 or 2

[weak obsidian]

BF3 had universal class weapons as well...

[mossy marten]

Yeup

[faint pivot]

The formula changed, if they want this battlefield to be successful they need to listen to their old employees about formula that know what a battlefield game is about, especially their most successful titles, the new game is headed in the right direction but from what I seen still needs lotta tweaking

[weak obsidian]

I don't see how the formula has changed.

[faint pivot]

Not on the same level as 3-4

[glacial orchid]

The formula just there is just more freedom to choose what you want

[mossy marten]

Only non class locked weapons apparently, and that's enough to have people up in arms about it 🤷‍♂️

[neat estuary]

Go back and show us how 2042 had the same destruction as previous titles

[glacial orchid]

I think you'll be able to distinguish classes and there will end up being proper balance in the end

[rugged seal]

unrestricted weapons aren't in issue in 2042

[neat estuary]

Oh and show us when any other class was allowed to run with a sniper

[weak obsidian]

BF6 seems to have pretty nice destruction...

[rugged seal]

another sniper example lol

[glacial orchid]

there was way more issues than classes lol

[glad trench]

mythical demigod snipers

[neat estuary]

You said the formula hasn’t changed, they tried to change it with 2042

[weak obsidian]

medic in V had the bolt action carbines and some servers in 1 had standard issue rifles

[rugged seal]

there are so many better examples and yet people choose the worst one

[weak obsidian]

I was talking about BF6

[glacial orchid]

simple, just shoot the enemy regardless of class lol

[neat estuary]

Fair enough

[neat estuary]

Well you’re clearly part of the 20% above average player

[mossy marten]

Yes, they changed it, and it failed
And what is this game doing?
Going back to the more original formula, the main tweak being non class locked weapons

[glacial orchid]

lower 20% 😂

[rugged seal]

i swear these people have like ptsd from cod sniping in the 2010s that is polluting their thoughts now

[neat estuary]

So you’re completely garbage?

[faint pivot]

All I know is id rather listen to someone who knew how to make successful battlefield games 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s going in the right direction for sure but still needs tweaking

[glacial orchid]

all I do is blow up vehicles. Its my passion

[neat estuary]

I still think that takes away from team play

[glacial orchid]

i enjoy the sounds of shrapnel metal flying through the air

[mossy marten]

In what way?

[glad trench]

how does me playing Recon with an AR/SMG take away from teamplay

[faint pivot]

It does

[neat estuary]

Because you’re only accounting for yourself, just like Visual probably is

[faint pivot]

It changes the flow of how battlefield is supposed to be

[mossy marten]

How does me having a non class locked weapons, someone who would run engineer or support for example, take away from making vehicles go boom or giving med/ammo?

[faint pivot]

Are you a dev?

[neat estuary]

Because you’re assuming that they’ll run engineer

[mossy marten]

No, just a normal BF player

[faint pivot]

Do you care if classes are locked or not?

[mossy marten]

I'm entirely indifferent to weapons being class locked. I personally don't care which way they go

[glacial orchid]

there are plenty BF who really dont care about locked weapon classes

[glad trench]

how does me playing Recon with an AR/SMG, providing frontline spawn beacons and providing constant spots/jamming only account for me?

I can go play a game of 2042 as an AR Blasco and top the leaderboards with only assists

[faint pivot]

If you don’t care why even ask people questions or argue with folks when they suggest them to be locked if you don’t care? That goes for all yall lol

[neat estuary]

Why would any average garbage player play anything outside of medic with ammo crate if they can have any gun they choose

[rugged seal]

because the reasons they suggest aren't really good

[weak obsidian]

you could this in 3 and 4, I don't get why it's a massive problem now

[faint pivot]

If you don’t care then let people suggest class locks simple 😌

[neat estuary]

You couldn’t literally choose any gun for your class in 4 iirc

[faint pivot]

No need to always argue against the suggestion of making classes the same exact way bf3 and bf4 had them

[neat estuary]

Nah, too easy

[mossy marten]

because I haven't seen any good reasons to have class locked weapons other than "it's been like that forever" or "support using snipers with ammo and heals"

[faint pivot]

Which was perfect and the most popular battlefields to begin with

[neat estuary]

But if you don’t care, why argue/debate it?

[faint pivot]

So why care? If you don’t care why need a reason?

The way classes worked in bf3-4 were perfect and helped made the game what it was and play the way it played, so since you don’t care it shouldn’t matter that people want them to remain the same

There really doesn’t need to be any other explaining than that

The formula worked stick to it

Simple, logical, common sense, critical thinking

[glad trench]

notice how he can't argue my instance of more teamwork happening due to unlocked weapons

[glacial orchid]

I still think the hybrid system of weapon perks is going to be fine with freedom to choose guns

[mossy marten]

Classes in BF4 has options for all ranges tho
Cqc: shotties
Mid range: carbines
Long range: dmrs

I still don't don't see how adding an SMG to recon or an AR to engineer breaks balance or teamplay

[faint pivot]

I don’t need to argue the ex dev said it himself in video which again was the most popular battlefields at the time, if they can’t copy those formulas goooood luck

[glad trench]

because the existence of sniper rifles on any other class literally breaks their brains.

without realizing that medic being a useless sniper was always going to be a useless sniper regardless of class locked weapons

[faint pivot]

those weapons were balanced to be unlocked for all classes

[mossy marten]

Ok
So you don't think they can balance the same to have all guns on all classes then? If they balanced those categories to be for all classes in bf4?

[faint pivot]

It’s not ideal or appealing, a recon should stay recon and hold a sniper rifle maybe a small smg on the side but even then it’s not ideal and breaks the balance and flow of gameplay like it did in 2042

[glacial orchid]

yeah still not convinced weapon locked class "formula" is going to work anymore

[faint pivot]

Don’t gotta be just go ahead and look up what the most successful battlefields were and then look up if they had class locks and the facts will hurt you

[weak obsidian]

I mean most automatics are pretty samey so eh

[glacial orchid]

what worked 15 years ago might not necesarily work with today's industry standards in gaming technology

[weak obsidian]

carbines are just ARs but shorter lol

[mossy marten]

And smgs are carbines but shorter

And LMGs are just bigger ARs

[weak obsidian]

tbf most PDWs fire smaller caliber rounds

exception is those pistol carbine kits

[mossy marten]

It's a joke about shorter/longer lol

[weak obsidian]

but yeah gameplay wise you aren't wrong...

[faint pivot]

lol well I can guarantee you what they did in 2042 wasn’t it and a lot of people who grinded in battlefield are requesting it to go back to the formula that made the other games successful wether it be map styles, animations, gunplay, class roles graphics etc

[mossy marten]

I can argue that non class locked weapons isn't near the top of the list of issues that made 2042 fail

[glacial orchid]

again weapon locked classes were like maybe small fraction of what went wrong with 2042 😂

[faint pivot]

You’re not wrong about it but many players have mention how it didn’t feel like a battlefield title due to the fact which made it less appealing and strip it of its identity which is why a lot of people who played from bc2.-bf3-bf4 highly dislike it

[weak obsidian]

I've played most of the BF games since 3 and I don't really care

[glacial orchid]

we could just go back to BF1 with locked classes style. just super restrictive? no attachements to choose from

[faint pivot]

The game failed because it was no where near what battlefield is supposed to be

[mossy marten]

Yeup, and class locked weapons were the least worrisome of the issues

[glacial orchid]

more like huge map design for running simulators. no scoreboard. no server browser. ....etc

[faint pivot]

I honestly don’t mind less sights, I enjoy a solid selection of a few good sights for different ranges and iron sights

[faint pivot]

It is an issue if that change of a feature in the game makes it not feel like a battlefield game lol

[mossy marten]

Specialists = clone wars, broken input, bugs galore, no true separate factions, destruction lackluster

[glacial orchid]

oh god remember when you couldnt distinct enemies jesus

[weak obsidian]

fuck it lets put glowsticks on everyone.

[glacial orchid]

oohhh ...I like glowsticks

[weak obsidian]

BF1 should've had bolt actions only

[mossy marten]

How about we wait and see what the future holds
2042 has many issues compounded on top of each other (class locked weapons being a miniscule potential issue) so we don't even know what a normal BF class system would be like with non locked weapons until we can get hands on. Oh wait, we kinda do have that already, BF4 🤔

[mossy marten]

True
There shouldn't have been 90% of the stuff in BF1

[faint pivot]

They just need to copy what bf3 and bf4 did which the class system and it’ll be a solid fuckin game that’s all

[weak obsidian]

BF1 should've been wacky alt history WW1

[mossy marten]

Think of it as BF4 expanded then

[weak obsidian]

either they lock weapons like in V and 1 or unlock them

[mossy marten]

It was wacky WWI history with all the different guns and gadgets lol

[weak obsidian]

3 and 4's system is just half assed

[weak obsidian]

same with BFV

[mossy marten]

Yeupppp

[weak obsidian]

they should've just embraced the wackiness

[faint pivot]

No it was simple and sometime the simplicity of something is what keeps it great, not everything needs to be a 24 gadget weapon in games to be appealing

[weak obsidian]

what is a 24 gadget weapon

[faint pivot]

It’s an over exaggeration

[weak obsidian]

Huh?

[faint pivot]

🥱

[weak obsidian]

do you mean attachments?

[mossy marten]

Lemme pull out my 4 optic M4 with 3 lasers, 45* foregrip, big chonk suppressor and 100rnd drum

[faint pivot]

Yes I’m editing rn while typing on here lol I meant attachments

[weak obsidian]

monstrosities found on a Tarkov PMC

[mossy marten]

Yeup

[weak obsidian]

I mean I think BF6's attachment are pretty reasonable

except for the ammo

[mossy marten]

All leaked stuff on reddit a couple weeks ago made it seem not that bad 🤷‍♂️

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's just stuff you put on rails

hopefully nu-DICE can figure out how to zero the sights

[mossy marten]

Like sight zero-ing like in bf4? Would be cool yeah

[tribal current]

Yeah but, I still wanna be angry

[mossy marten]

Being angry all the time ain't healthy 🙏

[tribal current]

Saying that makes me angry 😡

[weak obsidian]

I meant height over bore, apparently 2042 had it but they removed it sometime after launch presumably bc they couldn't zero the optics properly lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/yl1vf6/why_is_it_like_this/

changing the zero is already a feature for snipers

either that or this specific optic was bugged lol

[mossy marten]

Ngl
Adding height over bore and having zeroing be consistent through different ranges sounds like a pain in the ass unless you're going for milsim

[winter viper]

BFV had site zeroing, less than 1% actually used it lol

[weak obsidian]

BF4 already had it tho

[mossy marten]

Eh, never really paid attention to that, as long as my gun shoot straight and where the reticle is, it's not a large issue

[weak obsidian]

https://youtu.be/RXXjHf6urXo

it's just there to stop headglitching

I went on 2042 last night and it wasn't there :(

[mossy marten]

So the bullets aren't spawning from barrel so it's not really height over bore like irl (also would be wack shooting hipfire with bullets coming from barrel)
They probably changed it to spawn from neck/upper chest area instead in bf4. As for 2042, i never really noticed it was missing lol, probably cuz there was other issues that existed and still exist

[tall urchin]

I also imagine it's probably just easier to adjust the scale of most objects designed for cover

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's like a simplified version

it's a good solution for something like battlefield

[mossy marten]

This too

Make it too short to headglitch, and tall enough that crouching hides body from fire

[faint pivot]

No there needs to be some type of recoil and bullet spread

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1kwtyk3/why_recoil_and_spread_is_needed_in_battlefield/

If there is no recoil or spread it creates less skill, leading your enemies at range is another mechanic that makes battlefield battlefield, laser beams do not need or deserve a spot in this franchise

That also means bullet and rocket velocity drop needs to be existent in bf6 which it seems like it’s not

[weak obsidian]

reticle alignment and recoil/spread are like two separate topics

[faint pivot]

Still bf3 and bf4 spread and recoil system was top tier

It feels rewarding when you can get ahold of the Recoils rhythm and learn the gun along with distancing to be able to get kills a lot more skillful and rewarding, laser beams take away the skill set to a degree of gunplay and gives everyone the same type of experience and predictability rather than getting into an intense cqb fight and needing to handle that recoil correctly

[mossy marten]

[faint pivot]

One of my favorite things in battlefield was its spread and bullet velocity, especially using iron sights, it felt great and closer to how real bullet spread is

Sitting back with an lmg with just iron sights letting it rip from a good distance watching your bullets drop and get the kill, satisfying asf

These are pretty good videos so far just posting em incase devs watch them

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/V1wxmQtAt3

[glad trench]

you mean the animation they removed because everyone hated

stg DICE could've added anything into BF4 and you would just say "BF6 needs this"

[rugged seal]

this is the type of things recon players focus on in the back of the map

[midnight marsh]

In full version of the game we need console only crossplay for fair gameplay. Not crossplay off button with 10 players online. Or at least input based matchmaking (but still rewasd emulation cheaters)

[tepid current]

There shouldnt be any SBMM or aim assist. You can chose crossplay on or off. Thats it.

[midnight marsh]

There shouldn't be any PC players in console lobbies. Aim assist must be on consoles.

[feral garden]

This operates under the assumption that average console players are worse than average PC players. Which I dont think is true (Both are equally average). I dont know why people think all PC players are sweat-lord masters of mouse and keyboard.

[versed token]

Console folk love degrading themselves

[flint atlas]

bf3 was terrible, you couldnt fire more than a few bullets from any of the LMGs without getting massive spread, other weapons were quite similar too

4 was a big improvement

best example, the Type 88 in bf3 was one of the worst guns in the game, in 4? its quite good, purely bc of how they changed how spread works

bf4 is a lot more accurate and forgiving than bf3 and its more fun bc of that

[deft basalt]

or that all Pc players are cheaters lol
I never got that as cheating is possible on console at least on last gen consoles, i'm not sure if its already possible on current gen

[nimble bridge]

There are tools that can help you get better aim assist on consoles and it is basically cheating, and it's very common on console

60% of the people who were reported on Warzone were playing on consoles 😂

It's also due to the fact aim assist in CoD is already like cheating but still, you can cheat on consoles and it's safer than on PCs

[deft basalt]

yeah, that one is insane. IT litererally a build in aimbot except it doesn't automatically aim for the head

[rugged seal]

So many cheat accusations are just from people with a severe case of skill issue.

[neat estuary]

Accurate as heck

[neat estuary]

I wouldn’t even know where to look 😂😂

[nimble bridge]

I can namedrop it but I don't want to be muted

[rugged seal]

My cod cold war media gallery on ps5 is just from people saying im cheating in the best moment cam at the end of games

And they always say it right as I miss an easy shot in the video lol

I have a few on 2042 but I honestly got them more in 64cq and not as much 128

[tepid plinth]

Now Reddit is just the source of hackusations

[tepid plinth]

[neat estuary]

50/50 is about the only accurate opinion

[tepid plinth]

My guess would be another closed alpha and then an open beta

[neat estuary]

Everything else is just wishful thinking

[sweet yoke]

I agree but a time frame. Thoughts.

[tepid plinth]

November again maybe idk

[sweet yoke]

I'm thinking the same. November.

[tepid plinth]

My dad is John Dice so I’ll go ask real quick

[mossy marten]

I'm thinking Feb/Mar 2026 for release

[nimble bridge]

I was thinking of late 2025 release too but I dunno man, pretty sure we need to wait at least 2026 for them to fix the game

Or it will be usual BF release, broken in first 3-6 months until they fix it 😂

[neat estuary]

I’m just sitting back chilling at this point

[tepid plinth]

He confirmed that bf6 is cancelled and all efforts are being driven towards mirrors edge 3

[nimble bridge]

Based

[neat estuary]

😂

[tepid plinth]

Seriously though where mirrors edge 3

Why doesn’t some popular YouTuber make a video on it so another community begins asking for a third game that they’ll never get

Given my love for Titanfall I suppose it was expected that I’d love it too

[neat estuary]

TitanFall 2 was goat man

[flint atlas]

Titanfall 1 beta was some of my favorite gaming time ever

i wonder if they ever do another 2142 would it have some cool movement tech in it

[tepid plinth]

Probably never when the ability to jump pisses people off

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, my ideal 2143 would have double jump and jetpacks unironically 😂 No wallrunning though, I don't think it would make sense

[versed token]

You're lying

[crimson moss]

Its more of ease of play rather than skillset of whatever else

Its much harder to react and respond with a controller compared to pc, you can really tell if someones on a controller then they dont really turn back to see whats shooting them in the back because base settings are too slow for them to react anyway

Also you can be much more accurate aiming with a whole arm vs aiming with a thumb

Also pc players on average perform better whilist having better and even more peak players which shows heavily from how pc dominated leaderboards are

[feral garden]

Would console players not then be assisted by these better PC players being in their squad

[crimson moss]

You also dont really see players move due to the fact that its just harder to aim mid movement phase

With a controller*

[feral garden]

Its no harder than on PC?

[crimson moss]

Why? Your left to right movements are insanely slow on controller and you cant make very accurate set of camera rotations with a thumb

[feral garden]

Its a 12mm movement from full left to right on a left stick, youre trying to tell me this is hard to do?

[crimson moss]

Thats on base settings that more than likely no one ever actually changes, even if you amped up the sensitiviity to be able to turn faster you still need to be able to lock or stick on targets

[crimson moss]

Your camera still rotates slow

Its not about how many inputs you need to make or how much of that you do

[feral garden]

If you make it rotate slow, yes.

[crimson moss]

You just simply cant be as accurate with a thumb vs whole arm

Its physically impossible

[feral garden]

So are controller players then advantaged in vehicles

[granite carbon]

Should Hardline be in the next battlefield's portal?

[feral garden]

As they get 1:1 stick movement, but PC players need to wait for controls to respond

[crimson moss]

Not really since bf vehicles dont really need very fluid movement

[feral garden]

Why is a need mentioned, when its function we are talking about

Helicopters should be much easier to fly with a controller too, same with jets. You have analog input always

[crimson moss]

Well whats the advantage if that advantage doesnt actually impact anything

Micromovements on vehicles are bound to be better yes

[feral garden]

So you dont think its an advantage to have more finite control of a jets pitch and roll, versus a single action input that moves you a set value?

[crimson moss]

But theres no actual need for micromovements on battlefield

[feral garden]

Except when it applies to shooting weapons of course

[crimson moss]

You can continue a fluid single motion roll by holding a single key on pc

[feral garden]

But you cant have multiple different analog sensitivities, you have 1

[crimson moss]

Yeah

But again you dont really need it

[feral garden]

So there is an inherant advantage to controller. Same for movement control. Corner peaking for example would be better on a controller.

[crimson moss]

Well statistics speak for themselves

[feral garden]

Or you can walk when standing

[crimson moss]

Fps games are keyboard and mouse dominated, fighter games are keyboard and mouse dominated

[feral garden]

Can you show me these statistics

[crimson moss]

Its only vehicle biased games mostly that have controllers dominating (rocket league, FM, GT7)

[crimson moss]

Any esports game, bftracker if you want to look up leaderboards for battlefield

[feral garden]

These dont sound like reliable statistics

[crimson moss]

?

[feral garden]

I do think mouse has a higher skill ceiling, but if youre mentioning statistics that speak for themselves, you should really have statistics to show

[crimson moss]

You can also just play the game on pc and on whatever console you have? This is coming from someone who was top of bf4 on ps3 during the time bf4 was still big and who switched to pc on bf1

[feral garden]

Not just "Go look at leaderboards manually and youll see mouse players"

[crimson moss]

You cant even debate that you have less control with a thumb compared to a whole arm

Like physically not possible

[feral garden]

I mean I was top 4 Kills on BF3 on 360, but im not gonna claim some statistical fact without actual stats to back it up. Its an educated guess you are making moreso

[crimson moss]

Any professional tier console player also is aware that they can not even remotely compete with pc players you can look up siege players that admitted to that

Pretty sure they also noted out reasons why

[crimson moss]

Top kills arent telling, kpm is

Having more kills doesnt indicate that you have higher skill than others its just that youve played the game much more than others

[crimson moss]

You can look up statistics though you just dont for some reason

[feral garden]

im not the one who brought up statistics tho. You did, I asked for them, you said "Go look at the leaderboards" haha

[crimson moss]

Console players have significally lower kpms, meaning they get far less kills, this comes from mostly hardware limitations, them having less kills/not being able to make more kills means that the lobbies within themselves are easier to play in

[crimson moss]

I even gave you a site to look them up at

[feral garden]

Or they play modes less KPM dominated, like conquest

You said BF tracker, which only has individual leaderboards and player stats, thats not statistics that show skill/input devce data

[crimson moss]

So the few good console players are semi boosted

I played against a 4kpm console player on pc and he went neg kd barely getting 30 kills on pc lobbies

[feral garden]

Who and when

[crimson moss]

Then brokenwarmachine is a nutoriously glazed you can see that his pc stats are much worse than console stats

[crimson moss]

You yourself can come play on pc youll have worse statistics its pretty easy to prove wrong

[feral garden]

BF Tracker says player not found for that username

[crimson moss]

But yeah if youre a good console player youre going to shit on average pc players regardless

But its not a big feat

[crimson moss]

Check his yt and find his console name and pc name

[feral garden]

My OG point was the average players is average. And average console and PC players are about as good or as bad as each other

[crimson moss]

They arent

Console players have a much harder time on pc lobbies compared to just console lobbies

Because they are hardware limited

[feral garden]

I cant prove it with stats, but its always been my experience. The average PC player for BF is pretty bad

[crimson moss]

Thats true im not denying that

[feral garden]

Same with console. Maybe average PC players are a bit better, but not a whole lot

[crimson moss]

But your average console player will play much worse against average pc players on a pc lobby compared to a pc player on a console lobby

[feral garden]

Being good isnt just aim also, its brains, movement and timing

[crimson moss]

Why do you think that a modded mouse and keyboard input is considered cheating on console?

[crimson moss]

Yeah like i said a good console player will shit on bad pc players

Aka average pc players

It will still be harder for him than average console lobbies though

[mossy marten]

[verbal crypt]

Gotta be like me and dog on everyone 🤷‍♂️

[nimble bridge]

Depends on the game, CoD pros switched to roller because MNK is vastly inferior in CoD

[crimson moss]

thats purely because of aim assist being broken

remove aim assist from controllers and let them duke it between raw mechanical mouse and controller

[nimble bridge]

If CoD didn't had aim assist they had to change whole gunplay tbh 🥶

No idea how people can play warzone on PC when they can't see anything due to visual recoil

[crimson moss]

oh yeah thats another factor controllers actually have mechanically less recoil

since you cant really control and aim very well with a thumb at the same time, particularly bad in games like bf5 if they had normal recoil values

you can even see it in gameplay videos of cod it quite literally behaves like aim bot, you ads and it automatically not only perfectly tracks enemies but also locks onto them if youre slighty off from target

[midnight marsh]

Skill issue is playing on pc master race 300fps against dudes on 60fps with controllers for easy YouTube videos. And on the console we are paying for online access so we want clear online without aimbots, wallhacks and ttv.

[versed token]

Turning off pc crossplay is already an option in 2042 and i don't see them removing it in the next game

[midnight marsh]

There are no players with cross off

So if they didn't add console crossplay game will be dead after a few months on console

They have great crossplay in apex legends, console only pool, but when you connected with pc friends you play in PC pool and we need the same way in battlefield,

[versed token]

If you turn off pc crossplay it is console only pool

[midnight marsh]

There are 0 players when searching in many games, i want to play on xbox with a ps5. Why must I play only with 5 people and 40 bots?

[versed token]

Because no one turns off crossplay

[midnight marsh]

Because no one plays it on consoles, look at 2042, almost all players PC, and only few console players

[verbal crypt]

I played on ps5 the other day with a standard controller and it is COMICALLY easy to play BF lol. Recoil is nonexistent and RAA is wild

MNK master race for life tbh

[midnight marsh]

I have 3kd in 2042 on xbox, but i will not buy bf with pc players again.

[glad trench]

no, plenty of console players play it, they don't bother to turn off crossplay

[midnight marsh]

Aha, and bf1 and bf5 have twice bigger online on consoles

[glad trench]

ya because BF1/BF5 have larger player counts in general

[midnight marsh]

Because people don't want to play against pc its not fun

[versed token]

If that was the case they would turn off crossplay

[midnight marsh]

Same splitgate 2, i only 1 console player in pc lobbies

[glad trench]

2042 has less PC players than BF1/BF5 as well...

People play 1 and V because they're better games, not because of lack of crossplay

[versed token]

but as you've seen yourself the majority of console folk don't care

[midnight marsh]

I want to play with ps5 but without pc, just turn off pc

[versed token]

and you can

[midnight marsh]

I am on xbox

When warzone and cod bo6 added only consoles crossplay all pc community started to cry about cheating.

[glad trench]

super popular game with garbage anti cheat has cheaters... no way

[midnight marsh]

So i will not pay for the quest find the cheater or how he killed me 360 no scope

[versed token]

You got cheaters on console too

especially on cod

[nimble bridge]

Developer sanctioned aimbot

[midnight marsh]

Its not cheating and its not the same as aimbot or wallhacks its just adapters

[glad trench]

1000 hours on BFV saw maybe a dozen cheaters, haven't played it much since 2042 released so I don't know how it is currently

2042 I have 600 hours, again maybe a handful of cheaters

[nimble bridge]

BFV has tons of cheaters tbh

[versed token]

Not the same but it's still very much cheating

[tall urchin]

Nah there's wallers and all the other shit. Same with Apex there's tons of consoles with PC level cheats.

[nimble bridge]

2042 has so few in comparison

[midnight marsh]

Its not so powerful

[versed token]

Nice joke

[glad trench]

again, haven't really touched BFV in ~4 years

[midnight marsh]

Funny

[mossy marten]

BFV i don't see cheaters often, but i did get into a game with one of the cheat devs on the other team....
v1 rocket spam on underground was...... interesting.....

i did kill him when he was using speedhacks tho lol

[verbal crypt]

2042 def has the least amount of cheaters tbh between EA anticheat and the new secure boot I think it’ll be pretty good moving forward

[nimble bridge]

Literally gives you stronger aim assist, it’s cheating + undetectable

[midnight marsh]

That's why we need console only crossplay, cry about aim assist on reddit not here.

[nimble bridge]

One guy redeployed an entire server last time I played it

[mossy marten]

haven't had that happen to me in a long while

[deft basalt]

i don't want to sound harsh but that's just pure cope lol
Cheating is cheating period. Its like someone did a bank robery and stole money and another stole food at a supermarket. Both people comited a crime that's called stealing. Sure its not on the same level but its still stealing

[tall urchin]

Really? I disagree completely. I can find like 5-10 a day
Usually low levels running 10% accuracy but 40%+ HS accuracy making perfect prefires.

And yesterday Bear found one guy going like 120-10

[versed token]

The newer cheats alternate between hs and bodyshots

[feral garden]

You said the other day you havent played 2042 in months, which is it 😄

[versed token]

so their accuracy isn't completely crazy

[verbal crypt]

I’m NA East and I swear I barely see any. There’s like 4-5 names I remember that I run into like once a month but for the most part I rarely see any lol

[midnight marsh]

Me and 5 of my friends will not buy a game if there is forced pc players

[nimble bridge]

2042 still has least amounts of cheaters and cheaters are very blatant I would say

[versed token]

I always meet a few out of region players that are cheating

[nimble bridge]

I saw a guy going 120-10 with a glock, he was cheating obviously, but I saw that like once in every 2 months

[tall urchin]

Maybe its worse on west then, it's legitimately frustrating and moreso when I watch the same account go Scott free for months before they catch a ban.

[verbal crypt]

Then again I only play like once a week now so that could be why I’m not seeing many lol

[glad trench]

cool

[feral garden]

I have only seen a handful of blatant cheaters in all my time with 2042. Im talking rage hackers. Probably 10-20 possibles, using them more sneakily. But they might have just been very good players. IVe only ever reported those that whole lobbies have been speaking about

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, best part of 2042 tbh, least amounts of cheaters. I went back to BFV, in a community server mind you, and one guy redeployed us all lol

[tall urchin]

Yeah I've considerably reduced the frequency of play because I see the same names just going wild on the tracker and just play something else. Other games definitely still have issues, OW2 I still saw a lot of people walling just a lot less aimbot.

[nimble bridge]

Official servers would be even worse if community servers are like that

[feral garden]

Hard to know if its lack of interest, or lack of cheaters tho TBH. I know for sure that there are still cheat makers for 2042 (Seen a bunch of videos floating around which advertise them...ill not share tho)

[tall urchin]

I think Rivals has the wildest cheats I've seen in awhile though, like you got cheats that can feign your position and kill your own teammates lol.

[versed token]

I've seen a considerable uptick in cheaters the last few months

[feral garden]

Secure boot SHOULD help with cheaters a lot tho. If you get banned via detection this way, its essentially a HW ban, right?

[versed token]

so im pretty sure there's a new cheat floating around

[verbal crypt]

The most notable cheater I can remember is a dude who legit sits on the back of a pondhawk using rail gun and goes like 70-1 lmao

[tall urchin]

I'm surprised they even need to update it to avoid detection, EA anticheat is so dogshit

[nimble bridge]

Let's hope BF6 won't suffer the fate of BFV in terms of cheaters

[tall urchin]

My most recent one was from back in February, guy just used GVT or bow with 97% HS accuracy and would hide behind deployed cover

Only took three months to catch a ban

[verbal crypt]

That’s crazy damn lmao

Also I can’t prove it but I swear on my life a FEW of the AARP shitters use walls lol. Most are legit like 90% but there’s a couple that are fishy

[tall urchin]

I've seen a few fishy players from a couple clans. Most are legit but you see shit here and there which is unconventional and they don't ever play like most typical high tier players either.

I wish we had replays

I saw one guy and every time we played TDM he had 100% guess rate on spawn flips which is crazy when you factor there's usually 4 major locations and slight variations.

[verbal crypt]

I wish we had replays too tbh lol

[versed token]

Bro was a TDM scholar

[tall urchin]

Legit I could never farm faster than him every time we played. I could get 40-60 kills a game pretty reliably but he'd always end on like 80+

Just because he would always end up where enemies were and I'd be hunting to a new spawn flip and miss the coin toss.

It was so weirdly consistent it threw me

[potent obsidian]

Cannot use my Razor Tartarus gaming keyboard for the game. Please add it

[pseudo palm]

I agree, I don't wanna play with console players

[faint pivot]

I feel like reloading and bullet count should matter in this game, decreasing the panick firing making it more intense and immersive making players think and strategize their next moves taxing the quick responsive times of just panick firing and laser beaming would be a dope feature

[ruby shell]

there def should be a choice, cause aim assist = legalized cheating

[neat estuary]

I’d prefer to not play with PC either

[ruby shell]

consensus! This is rare in BF

[neat estuary]

Funny guy

[verbal crypt]

He’s not kidding lol

[ruby shell]

I know lol, it's literally aimbot toned down haha

[verbal crypt]

Modern day aim assist, especially RAA is legitimately close to aimbot

[feral garden]

Im sorry, but if you think Aim Assist in BF games is legalised cheating...how bad must you be at the game

[ruby shell]

who said anything about being bad...just stating my view on what aim assist is

[round breach]

tell that to all the zen users

[verbal crypt]

I promise my stats are better than yours and feel free to inv me anytime lol. Aim assist in modern fps games is a joke, especially up close. I’ve witnessed dozens of MnK users all of which have been on mouse for years switch to controller cause they couldn’t compete. Thousands of hours of aim training just to lose to RAA

It isn’t as bad as “cheating” but it’s getting there lol

[feral garden]

AA in BF games is completely fine, all it has is moderate slowdown

Bro trying to invite me to fight lmao

[ruby shell]

Interesting, I wonder if anyone has done a comparison, im going to see if I can find it on le YouTubes

[verbal crypt]

It’s not as bad as cod obviously but I plugged in a controller the other day and it’s night and day bro lol. So much less recoil and up close fights are 5x easier.

Not inviting you to fight lol, I’m saying if you ever wanna see a MNK demon my dms are open 🤓

[ruby shell]

so just watched a video, and in BF2042 for example, as long as you have input in the left stick and slight movement in the right stick to track, which will latch onto the enemy and be "sticky"

[round breach]

thats RAA

[ruby shell]

yep

[feral garden]

It will only stick as long as you maintain the crosshair within a micron of the players model. It wont stick to them.

[round breach]

then you literally have to deal with all the cronus users actually cheating with something wildly accessible

[feral garden]

Im guessing youre watching an SMK video where its poorly explained

[ruby shell]

I was

[verbal crypt]

You can walk into GameStop and buy a zen for like $35 lmao

[round breach]

yep

[verbal crypt]

Idk how it’s even allowed

[feral garden]

You have 2 AA options in BF. Sticky and slowdown. Slowdown adjusts your sensetivity to be lower when aiming at a player, and the sticky option helps you snap to a target center mass, but only if you are aiming basically on them already. Both require you to maintain your aim on the target, or they entirely stop working. It doesnt aim for you like several of SMKs videos allude to

[steady spoke]

you and me both lmao

[ruby shell]

based on the snapping distance in another video it looks like BF2042 has a larger aoe for snapping vs. the V or I for example

again this is someone else' testing not my own SMK to be exact

[steady spoke]

quick question for yall, if you do miss the email, youre not excluded from future PT's, right?

[feral garden]

You can see how the snap actually works both with, and without player right stick input here at this stamp

https://youtu.be/EjljxCPx9f8?si=SW0di0izmT174E97&t=224

[ruby shell]

no idea honestly

what time is it at? 2:24?

[feral garden]

3:44

They also added a 200ms cooldown to snap activation, so controller players cant use trigger macros to trigger snap activation.

[ruby shell]

interesting so they toned it down, which makes it less game breaking, but will this be the case in BF6 at the outset?

[feral garden]

One would imagine so.

There is also zero AA on scopes past 6x BTW

[ruby shell]

yeah heard him say that in the video

watching the videos made me want to play some more BF2042, but then I remembered how stuttery it is and how I will need to go into BIOS before playing

[verbal crypt]

Yo this secure boot thing may have just fucked me lol

I had to turn it on and change my OS type in bios to windows UEFI and once I did and rebooted my keyboard and mouse aren’t recognized and I can’t use them. I’ve tried to plug in 3 other mice and nothing works 😭

[ruby shell]

this is part of why I didn't want to do it, I shouldn't have to tweak bios to be able to play a game

[oak condor]

telling the post-bf1 playerbase to screw with bios settings is certainly a choice EA made

[verbal crypt]

I know what I’m doing with PCs I’ve been in the bios many times for fan curves and such but I’ve never heard of mice and keyboards not being recognized. Especially when trying to plug in multiple

[covert nest]

I like going into bios settings and clicking random settings

[ruby shell]

I know it's not about how easy or hard it is, it's just that the VAST majority of PC gamers probably have never touched BIOS and to force it on them is basically like, don't play the game please

[covert nest]

Secure boot is fairly new yeah?

Well. Relatively? I haven't paid attention to this stuff

[ruby shell]

I didn't know the setting existed until the blog post on how to enable it haha

[oak condor]

it's not super new but nobody cared until it started being pushed on by default by win11

[oak condor]

have you updated the bios ever? seems like the weirder issues are coming from trying to enable it on really old firmware, other than that i have no idea lol it might be a board specific issue

[weak obsidian]

if valorant players can do it...

[covert nest]

I haven't had issues with it and i got a b650 so I feel it may really be a problem on older hardware. Probably?

[verbal crypt]

Updated my bios like a year ago

[oak condor]

i can't use it because i have to be able to use linux without risking shim randomly making it unbootable on a system update

it seems like a conflict of interest that microsoft holds all the keys for this "feature"

[neat estuary]

So is there a way to turn off aim assist on controller?

[covert nest]

Yes.

[verbal crypt]

I was able to get back into the bios and I turned secure boot off and turned off windows UEFI os type and I’m back to normal

Guess I’m truly meant to never play 2042 again that’s a sign from above lmao. Oh well

[oak condor]

they're doing you a favor tbh

[verbal crypt]

That’s what I’m saying it’s a sign lmao

[covert nest]

What is your motherboard?

[verbal crypt]

Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX

I got overclocks and custom ram timings and everything setup so I’m not going to default settings and shit just to run Bf lol

[tall urchin]

EA making life more difficult for legit users than the cheaters

[verbal crypt]

Lmao it was honestly very easy to do idk why all my hardware went unresponsive. Ggs gamepass will keep me going in the meantime

BFV, finals and maybe some splitgate too lol

[rancid marsh]

This is an issue with your mouse and keyboard drivers, delete them in device manager

[verbal crypt]

I’ll give that try thanks!

[tall urchin]

Secure boot did wonders, I've reported 3 new accounts cheating already today lol

One guy 44% average HS accuracy, another one 9.47 KD on 33 hours, another with 8 hours and 59% HS VHX

[verbal crypt]

Lmao holy you have no luck that’s wild

[tall urchin]

Yeah saw a level 56 going 46-2 on Redacted and wasn't at all shocked.

72% HS accuracy XM8 though, seems legit

[radiant grotto]

do you only get invited to one test or is it that once you've been invited you take part in the upcoming tests?

[neat estuary]

You stay in the test pool, but have to accept each invite separately (if there even is another test)

[trail pasture]

how is performance in the playtest? especially on mid range hardware?

[oak condor]

like 2042 where it's very heavy on the cpu (for no reason, lol) and you'll see stuttering on p much anything that's not current gen

[neat estuary]

Not supposed to talk about it

[oak condor]

people who played it aren't supposed to talk about it

[digital radish]

I don't think I've ever played a game on PC that is as taxing on CPU as 2042

[tepid current]

Agreed

[granite carbon]

Please have Persistent servers like the past games

[trail pasture]

hope they can make performance decent, like on battlefield 1 or battlefront 2, those games look really good even if your cpu and gpu isnt up to date with current gen

[cedar flax]

Hello everyone, what if they added Delamain from cyberpunk 2077 into the new battlefield

[mild girder]

you never played arma 3 before

[formal crag]

so has anyone already mentioned the weapon loadout by class? I mean its stupid that a engineer has access to a sniper rifle. Please lock the class loadout to specific weapons! 🙏

[weak obsidian]

no

[feral garden]

No, not a single person has mentioned it actually.

[weak obsidian]

yeah I haven't seen anyone talk about, thanks for bringing it up

[rugged seal]

and its another sniper example

[nimble bridge]

🗣️ Lock SMGs

[tepid plinth]

Didn’t think anybody minded the open weapons

Think you might be the only one

[mellow acorn]

Still no kill streaks L game

[covert nest]

Go to cod then.

[vast orbit]

Get in a plane and do it yourself. Become the killstreak

[mellow acorn]

Another failed battlefield

[nimble bridge]

I did

Tired of seeing same PP29, SFAR, AC9 players all the time

People generally chooses their class first and weapon later, so if you class lock those weapons there will be more variety in a single game

[versed token]

People will still migrate to the meta guns regardless of class locking

[nimble bridge]

Yes, but it will lead to more variety, I see more variety in a single BFV match than 10 2042 matches

[mossy marten]

We're still going on about this?

[versed token]

What variety?

[nimble bridge]

Support players won't be able to pull out an StG1-5 or ZK383 in BFV, they use BAR or FG42 instead if they want to be a meta slave

[mellow acorn]

There's no faking variety in BFV

[nimble bridge]

In 2042, support, assault, engineer, everyone uses same 3 guns

[versed token]

I can confidently say i see way more than just 3 guns

[feral garden]

People who want to use the best guns, will choose to play the class with the best guns regardless. All locking the weapons does is make that player now play a class they may not be the most proficient with in a given situation.

[nimble bridge]

Yes, that's the point

SMGs will be 1000% meta in the next game, if you lock them to engineer for example you will see more engineer players rather than everyone using support or assault

[feral garden]

So you want everyone to play assault as they did in BF4, when they would have been better of to play Enginner?

[nimble bridge]

I want BFV system

[feral garden]

Cos BF4 had/has a way lesser pool of used weapons than 2042...yet its held up as the shining example of what Battlefield should be

[versed token]

I don't see them breaking the assault/medic meta ever

[nimble bridge]

I am fine with assault/medic being meta, I don't want medic AR or assault SMG meta

[versed token]

You're gonna have to lock some really bad guns to those to change that

[feral garden]

Players who want to play selfishly...will.

But those who choose to play as a team have much more freedom to perform their best in an unlocked system.

There is no denying that unlocked weapons give classes a bit less identity...but HOPEFULLY, they can keep part of the class weapon identity through the signatures/training system.

[nimble bridge]

Assault SMG meta can't exist if you lock SMGs to engineer or support AR meta can't exist if you lock ARs to assault 🤷

[tired tangle]

if you lock bad weapons to medic, just because they have heals, nobody is gonna play medic

unlocked weapons are a good decision

[feral garden]

Or everyone will find the jack of all trades carbine all class weapon, and use that

Looking at you ACE 52 CQB

[nimble bridge]

Medic was meta in BFV and even in BF1

People chooses their class before weapon, they just adapt to their weapons

[feral garden]

No they dont lol

[tired tangle]

lol
in BF1, medic had 11% pick rate becuase they had shitty weapons💀

[nimble bridge]

Do you play as engineer because of SMGs or because of rockets?

[feral garden]

I play as engineer if my team needs engineers.

[nimble bridge]

So rockets

[tired tangle]

because i need to take out vehicles

but if i only have SMGs, i'm not gonna play engineer on goldmund railway

[versed token]

I always pick gun first and class second

[nimble bridge]

You guys are thinking backwards then

[covert nest]

You can't stop players from playing "Seflishly"

Ironically the most selfish players are those passive morons that don't do shit all game LMAO

[feral garden]

All players do...then situationally swap to a class that might have gear needed at a specific time...then immediately back to the one with the best weapons

[tired tangle]

if engineers didn't had access to carbines in BF4, vehicle maps would've been a nightmare
nobody would've used engineer

[opaque barn]

Bring back bf4

[versed token]

bf4 isn't dead, you can go back to it

[mossy marten]

Bf4 is still alive and has servers

[covert nest]

Bf4 and more would be good!

[nimble bridge]

I just don't want to see another PP29 Mackay meta as if 2042 didn't showed us how it's not a balancing nightmare Every single new gun was meta for 3 months and every single person on a server used it before they nerfed those guns to the ground

[opaque barn]

I ment bf6 should be like 4

[versed token]

pp is still meta

[tired tangle]

this is a weapon balance issue, not a unlocked weapon issue

[nimble bridge]

Yes, but RM68, VHX, BSVM, Rorsch etc. were OP when they came out

[versed token]

Mackay is also the strongest character with any gun

which is a separate issue

[tired tangle]

as if not 75% of good players have used Assault + M16A3 / AEK in BF3 & 4

[pulsar bramble]

lmfao

[feral garden]

I dont really mind what way they go with weapons. Ive played everything from BF2 > BF 2042. Ill make do with whatever.

But these unrealistic arguments people try to make for one way or another need to stop.

[nimble bridge]

I don't want BF4 system

[covert nest]

The pp29 wasn't even a true SMG.

[nimble bridge]

I want BFV system, full restrictions, no universal weapons

[mellow acorn]

Zayn

[feral garden]

BFV, a historically successful BF game /s 😛

[opaque barn]

Bf4 with bf5 mouvement and bf1 atmosphere

[nimble bridge]

BF1 arguably has the same system, and it's the most succesful BF game 🥶

[mellow acorn]

C'mon dice be bold let us fight in trenches in modern war

[tired tangle]

locked weapons wouldn't have helped even a bit
it would've made the situation even worse
if only assault had access to the RM68 / VHX, we would've seen 90% of the server running around with assault class

[covert nest]

A closed system will just funnel more people to assault since assault rifles are the easiest kind of guns to use.

Wow no ones playing medic or engie there's no one to take on the tanks or keep the team health up.

[feral garden]

"Tanks are OP!!!!"

When the actual issue would be no one plays engi cos their weapons are shit

[covert nest]

It's why I liked bf5's assault.

[nimble bridge]

BF3/4 balance issue more than anything

[covert nest]

In a modern setting though all weapons being pretty being high ROF weapons with range you may as well give engie and support the same weapons.

[nimble bridge]

Carbines and SMGs aren't suitable for maps with tanks. Give engineer DMRs and see how many people are picking them.

[covert nest]

Just give them assault weapons.

[nimble bridge]

Carbines and DMRs then?

[pulsar bramble]

...

carbines are not that much different than ARs

[tired tangle]

great, now we have a map like Grand Basar or Propaganda.
CQC maps with LAVs and nobody plays engineer because of the DMRs

[covert nest]

You are so afraid of a non existent metagame.

[nimble bridge]

That's why I'm talking about BFV class system, every class had a long range and a short range option. Medics had bolt action rifles in that game.

[tired tangle]

at this point, you can just unlock them all
if they have weapons for every situation anyway..🤷‍♂️

[nimble bridge]

I just want to see variety. There are bigger issues with unlocked weapons than locked weapons. I heard 70% of the people only ever uses ARs in Labs lol.

[pulsar bramble]

every gun can be strong, it depends on how good the player using it is. you can give the AC9 to a bad player and they wont do anything with it. but you can give a bad gun to a good player and itll be the same result as if you gave them a good gun

[covert nest]

Maps can force variety.

[nimble bridge]

If everyone is going to use ARs might as well remove other weapon types.

[covert nest]

Class perks can force variety.

[pulsar bramble]

while im in favour of slightly locking some weapons to classes, i dont think having unlocked weapons will create an unfun meta

[nimble bridge]

They didn't in 2042

[feral garden]

2042 is ass

[pulsar bramble]

2042 is just a bad game in general

[nimble bridge]

BF6 is 2042: 2

[feral garden]

Stop using it as the benchmark

[covert nest]

On my end I see lots of variety from the opposing team, With AR's, LMG's and SMGs.

[tired tangle]

Labs isn't a good indicator for that. the balance isn't fleshed out yet
you can look at 2042 and there we see a wide variety of weapons being used

[nimble bridge]

At least in class balance

[tired tangle]

it's not really a bad thing, imo
if you load into a 2042 match, there's more than not a pretty even class distribution

the specialists are whats breaking the 2042 system

[nimble bridge]

Depends on the map, if I'm playing conquest everyone plays engineer

[covert nest]

Assault weapons to tend to be the most popular weapons in the game because of their catch all use.

[nimble bridge]

Engineers are the most balanced specialists in 2042 + BF6's perks are even more broken

[covert nest]

It has NOT been set in stone yet. Those perks are not finished.

[nimble bridge]

I'm fine with assault and ARs being meta, but if someone wants to use that meta, they have to commit to the class

[mellow acorn]

Circlejerk

[tired tangle]

i'd say just the mechanic tree
AT-tree seemed fine, it's basically the AT-perk tree of BF4

[covert nest]

They shoud commit to helping their team instead of playing for the weapon.

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, 2042 is known for players helping their team 😛

[covert nest]

I was thinking far too ahead. People should play the gadgets of their class.

Battlefield players are fucking stupid so the best you can do is lead them to help their team which the new game is doing with accessibility settings.

[pulsar bramble]

i mean this is just all battlefields really, people wanna play to themselves

[nimble bridge]

If they want to play selfishly they should commit to selfish class(assault) 🤷 It would be better both for the team and for them since assault is anti infantry class with anti infantry perks

[rotund pier]

I don’t think I can say anything’s good about 2042

Actually, the wingsuit, I wish that made a comeback in BF6

[pulsar bramble]

neither, the only thing i think 2042 did well was the feel of the guns. the gun play felt good and that was it really

[tired tangle]

unlocked weapons is literally the best thing about it

[nimble bridge]

I love everyone using same 3 weapons with same 3 specialists

[feral garden]

Things that dont actually happen. I watched a video and did the same thing as them 2 days ago. And the weapons spread is actually crazy.

LEt me find it again

[covert nest]

I've seen the spread on the HK417A2, It kills quick but it's insane.

[young jetty]

No

Just make this game grounded in reality

[tired tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREaYPcGvDo

[brittle grotto]

I fear that once everyone has acces to bf labs it will be to late to provide feedback. Still waiting...

[feral garden]

Watch this video. Then if you want to dispute it...record a full round with full kill log active, rewatch it and and count the weapons used. You'll 100% find that there is a tonne of weapon variety.

https://youtu.be/xREaYPcGvDo?si=zhDr9L-A9MFkIPY7

[tired tangle]

this argument is just untrue

[young jetty]

What? That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard 😭

[rotund pier]

abdolute ass

[pulsar bramble]

i mean with this, wingsuits are real so it is realistic as long as it doesnt function the same as it did in 2042. could just swap parachutes with wingsuits

[covert nest]

2042 did most things poorly that anyone mentions a mechanic from there there'll be no nuance applied.

[young jetty]

No, don’t piss anyone off the game needs to be grounded like BF3/4/1.

[mellow acorn]

5 wasn't grounded

[pulsar bramble]

not saying they should, just pointing out wingsuits are not entirely unrealistic

[rotund pier]

Grounded like anything is

[young jetty]

Did I include or mentioned BFV?

[mellow acorn]

That's why I mentioned it

[pulsar bramble]

ideally the new one takes the best elements from 3/4/1/5 and put them together with touch ups and more polish

[covert nest]

They are doing bf5 movement in bf6.

[rotund pier]

Also don’t look up the fact marines are testing jetpacks

[pulsar bramble]

which i am a fan of tbf, i recently got back into BFV and i remember why i loved the movement

[mellow acorn]

Battlefield 7 prone speed increased?!!!!?? Finally??!!!!

[pulsar bramble]

lmfao

[tired tangle]

they literally doing that
some people act like, just because BF6 has unlocked weapons, it's literally 2042 2.0..

[pulsar bramble]

yhhhh, like personally id rather not have unlocked weapons but it is just a personal thing for me. ill still play the game and enjoy it regardless, i just prefer the way bf3 and 4 did it

[rotund pier]

Swingsuitz don’t impact the game negatively, it just adds some fun playability

[pulsar bramble]

i just dont want them to make the same mistakes that killed BFV and the mistakes that were made with 2042 (not saying BFV is dead, but some of the decisions made later in its life cycle rapidly sped up the games decline)

i want a new battlefield i can look at and look forward to playing

[rotund pier]

BFV made the mistake of trying to be Fortnite

[feral garden]

what

[rotund pier]

BF2042 was barely a game

[pulsar bramble]

the thing that killed BFV for me personally, idk if anyone else remembers, is when they increased the TTK after the pacific update dropped

[feral garden]

Which made 70% of the weapons irrelivant, then abandoned the game

[pulsar bramble]

well they eventually reverted the TTK change, but the damage was done

mistakes like that is something i dont want them to repeat

[feral garden]

I still hate how most weapons play in V right now

SMGs, outside of maybe 2 are just useless. Unless youre playing on Rotterdam or similar maps

[pulsar bramble]

i personally enjoy it so far after going back, i personally didnt play much on pc since i was on ps4 at the time. but ive been enjoying the feel of the guns

as for smgs, all i was dying to yesterday were tanks, the sturmgewher and the type 2a welgun and sten smgs

and i am only playing on the pacific maps as thats when i started to love bfv back in the day

[feral garden]

One think I love in this community is the irony behind the reception and opinions on leak stuff.

Bad player : OMG, they are only letting brainlets into tests for the next game...its going to fail

Good player: OMG, sliding and jumping, peaking corners...this isnt COD!!!

As if "Good" or "sweaty" players haven't always played that way in modern BF

[tired tangle]

[pulsar bramble]

so true, and as long as the sliding isnt anything like cods, it wont be that game changing since you cant slide cancel. and for peaking corners, theres not rly any argument against it since its just part of the game itself. theres nothing wrong with it

and the complaints of "jumping", people that complain about that are 100% the people that are jumping side to side in front of doorways in bf4 to bait shots

[inland glacier]

Sliding should be pretty much like bfv, especially since it goes rly well with crouch sprinting.

[pulsar bramble]

i agree, id be happy with a 1:1 port of BFVs movement tbh

all this being said, im hoping they prioritise optimising the game first and making sure its actually playable before its openly available to all, whether thats in open beta or full release

[brittle grotto]

You can't be serious with this lmao

[pulsar bramble]

?

[brittle grotto]

Have you ever seen a soldier in real life with a wingsuit? Carrying equipment or whatsoever

It doesn't belong

[pulsar bramble]

...

[versed token]

Have you seen a soldier get resurrected irl after being blasted by a tank?

[pulsar bramble]

wingsuits would literally work just as well as parachutes would, cos its not like youd be able to use/hold your gun while using it

and yes soldiers do still carry rifles and weapons with the wingsuits, if theyre using wingsuits for insertion theyd be useless without their equipment. so whats your point?

[weak obsidian]

I don't think that's possible

cranking 90's in BFV

[feral garden]

Realism bros go real quiet when you remind them they are playing a video game that lets you get revived from a 1000m fall

[pulsar bramble]

lmfaoo

[brittle grotto]

That rotating around a map that simple is just ridiculous, I get that battlefield is not hyper realistic. (Still needs to be fun) But wingsuits just ruin the game because why would you try to flank or use the map properly when you can just fly across the map

[weak obsidian]

yeah the grappling hook and wingsuit is goober

[pulsar bramble]

bro you LITERALLY didnt read what i said. IF you replace PARACHUTES with wingsuits it wont change anything since theyd function the EXACT same way

[rotund pier]

Wingsuits literally mean you HAVE to use the map properly?

[feral garden]

Map design issue TBH. Moreso than the equipment itself. Its also the tolerances they allowed it. AKA...allowing players nose dive into the ground with zero HP loss

[brittle grotto]

In what world do they function the same?

[rotund pier]

You can’t just wingsuit from the ground, you’d need to climb a building, then dodge everything in the way until your objetive

[feral garden]

I also dont want wingsuts back tho. But I dont think the equipment itself is at fault

[pulsar bramble]

its a video game cuh, theyd be used for the same purpose, not dying when youre diving from tops of builds or from helis

[feral garden]

I mainly hate how it was used to basically act as a long jump from one area to another. Kinda like Ihate how parachutes in COD/WZ allow the same

[brittle grotto]

Bro in 2042 there are clips with people zooming through tunnels, it's just dumb

[feral garden]

Too much lateral movement allowance, with no penalty for doing it is bad game design

[pulsar bramble]

that was a bug XD

[rotund pier]

Literally “only in Battlefield moments”

[brittle grotto]

I don't agree with it being a battlefield moment

[pulsar bramble]

and either way, i never said they should replace parachutes. i simply said that wingsuits arent entirely unrealistic to have in a MILITARY shooter

[nimble bridge]

We are getting both, they basically ported MW22 from gunplay to movement to Frostbite lol 😛

[pulsar bramble]

you clearly dont play battlefield much then cos that is literally a perfect example of a battlefield moment

[brittle grotto]

I played bf3,4,5,1 and then quit

[rotund pier]

Do you know how fucking fun siege of shanghai would’ve been with wingsuits

[pulsar bramble]

tbf youre cooking here

[brittle grotto]

Yes even more ridiculous

[pulsar bramble]

youre just anti fun aye

[weak obsidian]

battlefield is back baby

[rotund pier]

My god I’d have spent half the match just climbing the skyscrapper and flying everywhere just to climb back up and do it again

[pulsar bramble]

siege of shanghai with wingsuits would actually be fun asf

[weak obsidian]

BF4 maps 👎

[versed token]

You're being disingenuous

[worthy summit]

when bf6 be coming out?

[rotund pier]

I still hope naval combat is back, I haven’t heard any leaks about that…

[mossy marten]

Eventually

[brittle grotto]

Imagine playing a rush game and half the team is flying from buildings across the map to plant a bomb, fun game

[rotund pier]

November probably

[mellow acorn]

Mid July

[rotund pier]

Ever played Rush on Davamand Peak????

[pulsar bramble]

[brittle grotto]

You can shoot down people with parachutes or they don't jump 1km further

[rotund pier]

Just make the swingsuits harder to use

[worthy summit]

naval battle ftw! and back to veitnam!

(with MW)

[rotund pier]

I understand the complaint about them being WAY too fast, because you can go at mach 5 and just come to a stop with the wingsuit like it’s nothing

[brittle grotto]

Yes and that's my complaint exactly. They are meant to go fast otherwise you would fall to the ground

[tall urchin]

Or it'd lead to the fastest destruction of C in SoS history because no point would ever be safe otherwise with people rotating to every other point in ten seconds without vehicles.

Wingsuit in 2042 was way too effective a traversal tool and broke map flow

[pulsar bramble]

lmfaooo the birth of a new sub community, C tower destruction speedrun

[rotund pier]

Wingsuits should be locked to one class

[pulsar bramble]

agreed, im not saying they SHOULD be added yk, just saying if they wanted to add them in some way it wouldnt be out of place cos they are realistic to have

[rotund pier]

I’d say assault but that’d be a bit op, maybe recon would be better, imagine a sniper just flying from spot to spot, placing down respawn beacons, droning, idk, fun shit

[tall urchin]

Realism is not a good concept for game design

[pulsar bramble]

of course not but it still wouldnt be out of place to see

[weak obsidian]

tbh I think it depends man

[worthy summit]

battlefiled 6 should be "classic and orginal"

[pulsar bramble]

no cos thatd split the playerbase between 2 game types

[worthy summit]

split the modes Yes

[rotund pier]

No

[worthy summit]

split the servers yes

[pulsar bramble]

no because youd need to have a certain number of modes within the "classic and original"

[rotund pier]

Also portal shouldn’t be a thing, it should just be the maps ported to BF6 and that’s it

[tribal current]

Okay but what would he considered classic and original?

[pulsar bramble]

i imagine game styles like bf3/4 in classic and types like 2042 in original

[rotund pier]

Why would anyone play original them

[pulsar bramble]

if i had to guess

[worthy summit]

you can add differents modes,different mods into custom servers,

[pure meteor]

who knows when the next test will be around?

[pulsar bramble]

when they announce it

[brittle grotto]

2042 should just be put somewhere so it can catch dust never to be looked at ever again

[rotund pier]

Splitting the fanbase will never work

[pulsar bramble]

thats why they shouldnt add modes like BRs or anything else, just keep it to what Battlefield has always been

[fallow folio]

battle labu

[worthy summit]

scrambled eggs will never work on a same sever lol

[pulsar bramble]

what

[pure meteor]

a super banal answer

[pulsar bramble]

its the only answer you have lmfao nobody knows till they announce it

[rotund pier]

In 18days

Cuz it’s my birthday they gon gift this to me

[pulsar bramble]

xdd

[nimble bridge]

BF6 maps doesn't seem to have the verticality of 2042 maps, so even if they added wingsuit it wouldn't be more than a glorified parachute

[mellow acorn]

How do you know vro, we didn't see many maps

[nimble bridge]

BF4 had a classic mode though, which played more similar to BF2 than BF4 itself, basically hardcore without insane TTK of hardcore

[nimble bridge]

True, but maps we saw were flat

[mellow acorn]

And quite cqc

[faint drift]

I hope the other maps have some verticality. Nothing worse than trying to do recon in direct line of sight of the other team.

[rotund pier]

I wonder how many maps we’ll get on launch

Hopefully at least 8 originals, and maybe 4 returning maps

[neat estuary]

After 2042 I’m not holding my breath for wishful thinking

The realist in me won’t allow it 😅😂

[rotund pier]

I mean....
if it has 0 content on launch and they'll just dropfeed it to us later, I ain't buying

0 content on launch and bring it up to standards within 2 years of "content"

[brittle grotto]

I'm fine with a battlepas if it gives free dlcs, just don't split the community between base game and premium

[rotund pier]

My problem is them pulling a bf2042 and launching with NOTHING just to slowly drop it later and be like “look how much we’ve added :3”

[pulsar bramble]

im hoping a few big ones and a few small ones

show love to the smaller ones if we get any at release

[feral garden]

2042 launched with more maps than BF1, or V. It was just head over heels broken

[rotund pier]

It did?

I can only remember… hourglass, the launchsite, the port…

[mellow acorn]

It did, since no campaigne

[feral garden]

BF1

• Amiens
• Argonne Forest
• Ballroom Blitz
• Empire's Edge
• Fao Fortress
• Monte Grappa
• Sinai Desert
• St. Quentin Scar
• Suez

BFV

• Aerodrome
• Arras
• Devastation
• Fjell 652
• Hamada
• Narvik (featured in the open beta)
• Rotterdam
• Twisted Steel

BF 2042

• Orbital
• Hourglass
• Breakaway
• Renewal
• Kaleidoscope
• Manifest
• Discarded
• Battle of the Bulge
• El Alamein
• Arica Harbor
• Valparaiso
• Caspian Border
• Noshahr Canals

With the past game remakes, it also had dozens of other vehicles and weapons from those eras...but due to the mess that was the game, and its limited playlists...you barely ever got to use them.

[neat estuary]

Orbital was the beta for 2042

[neat estuary]

If you take away the old maps they brought forward into 2042 launch, 2042 had the same number of maps on launch

[feral garden]

Well im not going to take away the maps that were the best ones available at launch

[neat estuary]

Tells you just how terrible the launch maps were lol

Although I preferred OG manifest over the rework

[feral garden]

Yeah, literally. Unprecedented that maps we were given were so bad to play on that ALL of them had to be remade

Hopefully it never happens again

[neat estuary]

Pretty bad when I’ll take Narvik, Arras, Devastation, Areodrome, and Hamada over 2042 maps

But Narvik will always hold a special place in my heart lol

[feral garden]

I really like most of the maps you just mentioned. Id take them in 2042 over any map that was added at launch

Narvik has a really cool vibe. Lots of BFV maps have to be fair.

[mossy marten]

imagine the vibes if we got eastern European front

[covert nest]

I miss the beta bud and fog

Game felt way different.

[mellow acorn]

Ye 😔

Da villages

[rotund pier]

6 of these were for portal mode

[feral garden]

Was that a paid DLC or post release content?

[rotund pier]

it was something that splits the playerbase so you can call it a DLC

[feral garden]

Why is it in this community...that when its a negative, portal is part of 2042...but when its something positive it magically isnt...and is talked about like its a separate thing?

[rotund pier]

because it isn't positive?

[feral garden]

2042 had more maps

Did it?

YES, lists maps

Those maps, which are part of 2042, the game you bought are not part of 2042

2042 factually came with more maps at launch than the others. Portal or not.

[rotund pier]

2042 had 7 maps on launch

[versed token]

To be fair they weren't in the normal map pool to start out

[rotund pier]

that's what I'm saying

[versed token]

But i get what you mean

[feral garden]

They were by week 6...and week 2 had a playlist called exodus conquest which included 2042 and portal maps

[rotund pier]

it was in a separate gamemode that was so shit nobody played it

actually yeah people played it to farm exp aagainst bots

[feral garden]

But...the vast majority of people played the exodus conquest playlist in portal...which si what they eventually made the standard Conquest playlist.

Is this some revision of actual history, are are people forgetting those weeks when they removed infantry or exodus conquest from portal, leaving on 128P conquest available?

[rotund pier]

idk I refunded the game after a couple hours and didn't buy it again until it was like 10€

[formal crag]

I beg to differ. Wish I could post videos and images that there are many of us.

Can I post a link to a tiktok video?

[long trail]

i watch someone make a vid for all weapons i dont see m4 or m16 is that real ?

[fringe whale]

That would've been amazing

[fringe whale]

In BF6? There was a M4 in the trailer so I'd imagine it'd be in the game

[glad trench]

most of if not all the weapons in the playtest were not going by their real or common names

but I'm not a gun guy nor do I pay that close of attention to stuff like this so shrug

[rotund pier]

As a gun guy, yes, the m4 is in the game

[long trail]

m16 ?

[rotund pier]

Well, you can modify the barrel length so I guess you could say both are in the game

[vocal tulip]

[rugged seal]

Im sure portal weapons will include some kind of m16 if its not in the normal game

[rotund pier]

I hope portal isn’t a thing, not like 2042’d

Portal should be maps returning from old games and that’s it

[long trail]

+1

how u see the movement from 1-10 ?

[glad trench]

portal can stay the same, it just needs to be accessible from the same main menu as everything else and not something you have to load into

[rugged seal]

If they dont have bots then we dont have to see a bunch of slop people make for farming

[rotund pier]

But why would you want to unecessarily split the fanbase???

[boreal harbor]

Nice

[glad trench]

Because it’s essentially a server browser and with a few tweaks can be easily integrated so you can go find a custom server or a dice official…

Not supposed to talk about it mate lol

[ruby shell]

NDA

[weary heart]

Whoops where do I go to talk about it then?

[glad trench]

Nowhere, it was a stress test, they don’t care about the feedback

[weary heart]

I see. Thank you

[rotund pier]

Just get a server browser as part of the main gsme???

[glad trench]

Ya that’s what portal being built into the main menu would do…

Allows DICE official server browser but also bring back custom/“rentable” servers

[mossy marten]

That would be the best move
Integrate portal server browser and game setup thingy that's done thru the Portal website
And have portal browser show Dice official
Would be the smartest move straight up

[glad trench]

People immediately jump to throwing baby out with the bath water rather than just changing the water

Portal is a one of many great ideas that was executed on poorly like most of 2042

[feral garden]

#1375428094361468991

[warm ibex]

Thanks

[solar quarry]

I'm convinced that bf2042 was a social experiment by ea and dice to see how many great ideas they can possibly execute horribly in a single game

[weak obsidian]

pretty expensive social experiment

[solar quarry]

Yeah pretty costly for their already damaged reputation too. Remember the "don't like it don't buy it" situation?

That one also had a sequel nobody wanted, the "brutal expectations" one

[glad trench]

Except that was pretty much forgotten about by everyone unless you were a pissed off gamergate chud, and everyone was hyped for 2042 leading up to the beta/launch…

this coming off the back of the Battlefront 2 drama that people are now begging DICE to make a Battlefront 3

[glad trench]

Or 2042 was made by a largely new team with questionable management, without frostbite experience, forced to work from home during COVID

[weak obsidian]

no way, everything is a conspiracy

[tall urchin]

I can't believe video games entered their The Producers stage.

[glad trench]

The only game development conspiracies I believe are ones involving Bungie

[mossy marten]

Truuuuuuu
Bungie be doing some wack stuff

[hardy robin]

Yes, for some reason it wasnt in the recent playtest.

[granite carbon]

Server browser for all modes would exist, if we get persistent servers

[granite carbon]

People were hyped for bf5 too

[faint pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh5mbQ5_L4

[weak obsidian]

wow man I didn't know that 2042 was bad thanks for showing me man

[glad trench]

1 bad game means the entire series is going backwards

[weak obsidian]

I really learnt a lot

[mossy marten]

[weak obsidian]

lmao that whole channel is a coal mine

[rugged seal]

i skipped to the middle of the video and the first thing i see is "you cant shoot grenades" which you actually can lol

the person recording just has horrible aim

[weak obsidian]

you can see the tracers missing lol

[mossy marten]

i was about to type that too lol

[rugged seal]

people that use the siege of shanghai levelution as a gotcha is so lame too

its the entire gimmick of that map

[weak obsidian]

also it made the map shit to play!

[rugged seal]

why cant i destroy any of the other 10 or whatever skyscrapers?!?!?

[glad trench]

People glazing levelution is my litmus test

[mossy marten]

hot take:

• don't gimme gimmicks for each BF, keep it to simple destruction and evolving that with each game

[weak obsidian]

crowbcat ruined a generation

[glad trench]

All it did was brick consoles/pcs and make the maps worse to play on

[rugged seal]

i am not one to praise 2042 destruction but its also dumb to use a building that cant be destroyed vs one that can

because every game has tons of buildings that cant be destroyed

[glad trench]

Ya but how else would they have been able to sell BF4 when all it was, was a lazy continuation of BF3

[weak obsidian]

nearly every one of these comparison videos are disingenuous

[rugged seal]

no wonder that goober posted it here

[versed cove]

hot take, levolution was amazing and they should bring it back bigger and better

[crimson moss]

It isnt even bad, you can break some walls for climb ins or some peeks/angles/positions

[weak obsidian]

it's just gimmicky

[crimson moss]

Which is what the entire idea behind destruction should be and was/is

[weak obsidian]

it looks bad

[crimson moss]

💀

[weak obsidian]

what

[crimson moss]

Nothing i forgot that battlefield isnt a video game its a movie people want to spectate ingame

[weak obsidian]

if the newest game looks worse than the previous games of course people are going to be upset lol

[versed cove]

but cool 🙂 dont see big ass buildings crashing in cod that change the map, or dams, or towers. i think it is good for battlefield to lean in way more to destruction

[weak obsidian]

still not very interesting

it's not dynamic

[nimble bridge]

No we need levolution like Shangai which makes the map worse

[weak obsidian]

have you considered when the tower falls it's really cool and hype?

[oak condor]

so fuckign real

[versed cove]

it made the map worse yes, but it is cool. and they should lean more into it. battlefield was always the game with the destruction, they should focus on that more.

[weak obsidian]

it's not really destruction

it's a scripted set piece

actually I'm not surprised someone with a solo leveling pfp is all about hype and aura moments

[nimble bridge]

I would rather want them to add dynamic weather events instead, BFV's pacific maps aren't that good imo but sometimes there was a storm in them which changed the visibility or there was a sandstorm in Hamada.

Some 2042 maps has them too but not all of them.