battlefield-labs-discussion

[safe bone]

brotha man i just answered ya question

[verbal crypt]

Buddy is trolling

Also, I heard from a reliable source that they are making controller users have 200% more initial recoil with the possibility of making your controller explode in your hand.

[plush thistle]

Hey all, a question, i signed up for the EA play tests but couldnt find any way to choose BF exclusively, did i miss anything?

[tepid plinth]

nope

just press labs link, sign up on labs page, job done

[glad trench]

it's obvious as shit to tell who's a threat based off the reaction. if they're capable of blowing up a tank, they behave accordingly, if they can't they hide like roaches

y'all try to pretzel logic your way into things when you can just say "I like the artistic representation of identifiable silohuettes"

[inner eagle]

that’s such a shallow outlook tbh :/ it’s a video game, players need visual cues to identify eachother. i’d be interested to see what ur rationale is for NOT having identifiable classes bc it seems like ur just using expletives and dying on this hill for no reason

like why are you against having classes be noticed…. it’s a basic design principle

your arguments reek of someone trying to be different for the sake of being different

[glad trench]

ya, I identify enemy team and based off what my kit is and the actions they're displaying, I decide what to do.

I don't need an identifiable recon silhouette to come to the conclusion of not engaging from distance when I have a smg or shotty

[verbal crypt]

I fr said a month ago your Pc should explode if you don’t move for 3-4 min lmao

[glad trench]

nah my argument is, cool skins are cool, and being locked into some archaic design solution because y'all are bad and overthink the dumbest shit

BFV I never once had a problem with "oh no I killed these 7 guys and not the medic so they all get rezzed", or not being able to identify the engineers while in a vehicle

[inner eagle]

nobody “overthinks” anything? games other than bf have little rockets on the back of anti-tank classes and ghillie suits for recon. it’s smart game design and encourages team gameplay. if you want cool skins maybe you should shift away from battlefield and play games that prioritize that for you 👍

[glad trench]

especially in modern times where there's a million things on the HUD that straight up tells you what's what

[glad trench]

go back to where I say "I like the artistic representation of identifiable silohuettes" is a valid argument

not the pretzel logic of trying to come up with gameplay reasons

[inner eagle]

it does have gameplay reasons? using terms like “pretzel logic” doesn’t invalidate a good argument

i just gave you an example of people who play vehicles being able to identify engineers based on class

[verbal crypt]

I want snipers to have massive robot heads so I know who is going to be a useless bot on my team

Jk lol don’t get all riled up 🥸

[glad trench]

I want sub 1.25 K/D identifiers on my team so I know who not to waste time rezzing

[inner eagle]

lowkey i’m done talking about this with u bc it’s obvious ur incapable of making an actual rebuttal and instead just call everything i say “pretzel logic”

[verbal crypt]

Lmfao

[glad trench]

I made plenty of rebuttals, it's called not being a doorknob and reading player behavior

and not a silohuette

[tall urchin]

Even better suggestion

[inner eagle]

reading player behavior??? my guy the player behavior is running and shooting guns

ur acting like i can see the facial expressions of my enemy

[glad trench]

guess what, a guy who has a shotgun behaves differently than the guy who has an AR

you would know this if you weren't an ape

[inner eagle]

nice insult 💀 buddy’s getting upset bc people disagree with him

peace ✌️ur weird bud

[glad trench]

bad is bad

how often are we really getting beamed in the head from snipers who are out at that distance

[verbal crypt]

I said something similar on a Reddit post earlier this month and legit got a death threat in my inbox lmfao

[oak condor]

automated angel crates from space 🥳

[tepid plinth]

doesn't matter the distance

[plush thistle]

👍

[stiff root]

I just had a dream where new Battlefield game revealed on June 1st

Can't wait this summer

[cloud loom]

Chat this wave is already stop?

[nimble bridge]

I think it will be revealed in summer game fest

And I think it will be just named as ''Battlefield'' rather than Battlefield 6

[oak condor]

a battlefield (2025) to go with my doom (2016) and whatnot

[stiff root]

Would be cool if that is true

[weak obsidian]

don't forget Hitman (2016) and Modern Warfare (2019)

[oak condor]

mw19 was the big one i was forgetting

[nimble bridge]

They renamed Hitman to WoA tbf

[glad trench]

I think headshots with certain classes of weapons is fine

[covert nest]

In good faith coming from hardline just it coming from snipers its fine because it actually rewards people.

Too many times have I been in the receiving end of everyone damn gun being able to do it.

I understand the concerns I'm personally not too worried about that.

I'm more worried about cucked regen when shot in the chest.

[minor linden]

Something that nobody is thinking about is how often people will actually get the perks. If it’s like bf4’s, I doubt many snipers will actually get to the required match points(I can’t remember what they’re actually called)

The 50x zoom snipers will likely never have enough to actually be an issue

[covert nest]

I think it's a level 1 perk.

[young jetty]

I think it’s either summer game fest or Xbox Showcase

[mossy marten]

Headshot being an insta down? I think it was lvl 3?

[covert nest]

My bad level 3 yeah.

[rotund pier]

That should be a thing that comes with sniped rifles by default tbh

[mossy marten]

hmmmmmm, nahhhh, shouldn't be a default thing, even though it was in hardline lol

[rotund pier]

Maybe it could be a type of ammunition

Since there’s going to be like a point system no?

I just don’t think it quite works as a specialization

[mossy marten]

it's fine as a specilization, especially if the specilizations aren't super easy to fully level up

[versed token]

They will be

unless they wanna kneecap the lesser skilled players

[minor linden]

It could be interesting as an attachment, but it’d have to cost a lot of points

[rotund pier]

I mean

Say you have 5 slots and that one costs 2, I think that’d be good

But eh I don’t think the devs actually listen to anything

We can talk about the leaks right, not post about them but still

because I just saw one where infantry can grab onto allied tanks, which is pretty cool ngl

sometimes I see a tank and I think "damn I wish I could climb up on it so I can get closer to the action" so I guess now you can

[nimble bridge]

They should be easy

If specs aren't easy to obtain then people won't use newer weapons

[mossy marten]

??

[nimble bridge]

Fully decked out starting weapons will be better than no attachment weapons you will unlock later

[mossy marten]

"if specs aren't easy to obtain then people won't use newer weapons"?
how do weapons correlate with field specilizations

[nimble bridge]

Oh my bad

I thought you meant weapon customization

[mossy marten]

yeah, field specilizations/field upgrades/perks/whatever shouldn't be like handing out candy at halloween

gotta put in some effort to get the higher tier "insert perks term"

[nimble bridge]

If they are too hard to obtain then people won't bother with them too tbh

[mossy marten]

shouldn't be get 500 score and have it already be tier 1
needs to have some semblance of effort being made to get those higher tiers

[nimble bridge]

I would rather want them to copy BFV or BF1 perks tbh 🥶 Especially if these field perks are too hard to obtain

[granite carbon]

Should the next battlefield have an option like battlefield 2. Where you can run your own servers on the Internet, instead of renting one within the game, or play locally using lan? It would be useful for modes like portal

[balmy vector]

Would love to have that option tbf

[granite carbon]

That's a brutal expectation. No battlefield games since bf2 had that

If the server goes down, the game goes with it

Battlefield 2 is still alive because some people still run servers of bf2 on the internet

[balmy vector]

From time to time I wonder whether I'd install BF Hardline, but then I remember.. it was dead 10 years ago

[granite carbon]

Bad company 2 multiplayer is unplayable due to lack of LAN since the servers went down

[feral garden]

And offline mode is possible, but they probably wont ever give outsiders the capability to host servers

[verbal crypt]

FPS scene is so dead im playing Crime scene cleaner lmfao

Game slaps lowkey

[nimble bridge]

2042 allows you to have persistent servers tbh without paying a dime

[fleet robin]

it's so fucking good

100%'d it when it came out

really fun

[nimble bridge]

I'm waiting for Splitgate 2

[granite carbon]

Servers would go down at some point. Bf2042 doesn't have an offline at all

Bf1 and bf5 charged for server rentals

[verbal crypt]

Actually goated fr scratches my brain

[fleet robin]

ong

probably my favorite cleaning sim

[verbal crypt]

I played the beta it was pretty decent fr

[verbal crypt]

Yeah it’s up there tbh

[glad trench]

Y’all need to touch grass (in a positive way) lmao

[verbal crypt]

No joke I go for an hour walk before work every day, MMA gym after work and usually play some bball too lol. Today was just my day off 🤣

I’m always outside tbh

[glad trench]

Fair enough lol

[verbal crypt]

Good advice tho tbh I haven’t moved much today so imma go eat some grass now

[iron remnant]

NA,EU and ASIA

[granite niche]

I’d love to see a real ranked mode in future Battlefield titles something skill-based, not just XP leveling. Also, dynamic maps like Siege of Shanghai that show the transition from a peaceful city to a full-on warzone would add so much immersion. A region-based global chat (like for Asia servers only) would also be great for finding teammates and building community

[gleaming dagger]

"EAST ASIA"

[tawny roost]

yeah levolution was battlefield major selling point, and i havnt seen anything major after battlefield 4 and 1

[civic arrow]

when are they going to send out more invites sheesh

[mossy marten]

When they send invites
Which are not privy to the general public (some people for some reason say they got them, but that breaks NDA and so gets Thanos'd)

[civic arrow]

I guess my question really is, where is my invite?! lol

[small pond]

This is technically called "tank desant", it's been possible since BFV but there wasn't any special animations for it. You just climb on top of vehicles and the physics accommodates you without flinging you off. The exception is 2042's physics where climbing on top of enemy vehicles would eventually road kill you despite being on top of the vehicle.

[rotund pier]

yeah but now you can actually grab onto them with no danger bugs or anything

well, the danger of getting shot

[opaque barn]

That mean less road kills 😖

[glad trench]

It was a selling point for 1 game, people realized it was largely awful and made the maps worse and transitioned back to more dynamic destruction and change within maps

[glad trench]

Ranked 32v32 modes don’t work, siege is a map with two static presets, no dynamism anywhere in there. And multiple times through the franchise history has shown there’s very little, consistent appetite for smaller more competitive focused game modes

[glad trench]

Fiber baby, it’s called self care 💅

[tribal zodiac]

This guy knows what hes talking about👍

[sharp quarry]

Yay I hated revolution the not being able to really destroy maps and being spawn camped and getting shot from miles away I didn’t like

[jade thunder]

Gang shit

[mossy marten]

[rotund pier]

you can grab onto allied tanks not enemies

it's not titanfall

[opaque barn]

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-run-over-road-kill-savage-plowed-gif-5962719

Thank god

[sharp quarry]

Wait wouldn’t that count as a team kill

Because you get ran over

[rotund pier]

Allied vehicles just push you around

[versed token]

Well you can get squished by friendly vehicles if you're unlucky

[small pond]

[mossy marten]

Me dropping a hovercraft on a sniper, using the call in system, in my squad who's in the back of the map not doing anything

[small pond]

Me driving the hovercraft up skyscrapers.

[mossy marten]

Not some 2022, rip the hovercraft wall scaling ability

[small pond]

They should add that as an easter egg in the next BF, on some building somewhere there's a toy hovercraft glued to a wall. Maybe somewhere high up, and you need a 12x scope to see it or something. Shooting it, knocks it off the wall and you get a dog tag about it.

[rotund pier]

Wait was there any silly easter egg in 2042?

Toy Dinosaur, Faith’s shoes… anything of the kind

[quiet helm]

DannyOnPC is covering it. It's unimaginative tedium compared to previous BF games.

Hopefully the lore has a soul in BF6 so there's something interesting about the easter eggs.

[tough zinc]

cant wait

[quiet otter]

how do i know if ive signed up

i might just be being stupid

but i completed the survey on ea

[sharp quarry]

Ya same I also completed the one last Thursday

[cedar flax]

Hey everyone, what if they added Aqua Teen Hunger Force into the next battlefield

[sharp quarry]

Never heard of

I heard there won’t be crazy movement like 2042 so that will be a lot better

[tepid plinth]

Should get sent an email, but if it’s any solace it took about a month for mine to come through, but once you’ve signed up through the labs page and you’ve logged into the playtesting account either before or after you’re good

[tepid plinth]

You don’t like 2042’s movement?

[quiet otter]

i just want battlefield 4

[sharp quarry]

Ah I summoned him, I mean I kinda like it but cheaters ruin it for me

[glad trench]

damn, it's like you can go play BF4 right now

[faint pivot]

Yall see those slow motion clips😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Resolutions look crazy, animations look fire

[weak obsidian]

ok just play BF4 then

what's stopping you

[eager oyster]

is the new test begin ?

[faint pivot]

The new bf looks like bf4 and lowkey plays like it now

[sinful dawn]

anyone know how to access battlefield lab on xbox?

[covert nest]

I think what will happen is that when you're accepted xbox services will add the game for you. Or you'll be given a game code. Either way that it goes you should know when you get it.

[granite niche]

Actually, Delta Force does implement 32v32 ranked matches and it’s working surprisingly well for a lot of players.
Just because it hasn’t been successful in Battlefield (yet) doesn’t mean the format itself is flawed.
With proper team-based ranking systems, performance tracking, and role balance, large scale ranked modes can absolutely work. Battlefield just needs to approach it differently.

Ranked doesn’t have to be limited to smallscale modes
Even in 32v32 battles, you can implement a ranked system based on KDA, score per minute, objective captures, and overall consistency.
It’s not about removing chaos it’s about rewarding individual and squad performance over time.
With the right metrics and balancing, largescale ranked can absolutely work

While it’s true that Siege of Shanghai has just one major transition, its visual and tactical impact is huge.
The collapsing tower changes structure, dust visibility, lines of sight, and coverwhich shifts the entire gameplay rhythm.
I used it as an example not because it’s perfect, but because it showed what’s possible.
In future Battlefield titles, I hope we see more refined destruction, like partially collapsed buildings that create new combat spots midmatch

[nimble bridge]

Delta Force is absolutely awful to play because of SBMM

SBMM doesn't reward good players, it punishes them for being good so it sends them to lobbies against demons

High bracket DF is 4v6 as if people are playing Counter Strike

SBMM assures those good players won't interfere with bad or average players

Unless those people chooses manipulate SBMM with reverse boosting or 2-3boxing

[glad trench]

it's a ranked mode, that's what the SBMM is supposed to do

but DF ranked mode isn't something to use as a shining example... why, because it sucks

comp play has been easily available for anyone that wants it. you just can't matchmake it and you have to join organized comps/teams.

[feral garden]

Works so well, almost everyone I know stopped playing it. 👍

[deft basalt]

Exactly, it forces me to tryhard and i really don't want to tryhard. All i want is to casually play without any real thought, like just playing. Forcing me to have 1s or sub 1s reaction times is really exhausting and not fun at all.

[jaunty jetty]

I know what they want, they like staying in low ranks just to farm noobs.

It ruins the experience for beginners.

[cedar geyser]

Does anyone know if the test on PS5 requires a PS Plus?

[nimble bridge]

Rank doesn't matter in DF. You are playing with SBMM regardless. It was a translation error.

[sharp quarry]

How do you know if you signed up for bf labs

Or got picked for a playtest

[rugged seal]

if you got picked there would be an email with info about it

i don't know if there is still a confirmation email at this point, they may have just stopped doing that

[calm seal]

I'd be surprised if it didn't need PS plus.

[sharp quarry]

I got some confirmation email saying my registration was complete but that was a few months ago

[tepid plinth]

Well that confirms you’ve signed up

Now just gotta wait and pray

[rugged seal]

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[sharp quarry]

Thanks

[cedar geyser]

ty

[alpine mulch]

Can PS5 play this beta-test?
if could, How to Download BF labs to PS5?

[unkempt plover]

How about doing a quick google search?

[mossy marten]

[past furnace]

😜

[glad trench]

Are you talking about BF? Because BF has a separate matchmaking pool for new players that allows them to play a handful of games before being put in the general pool

[rugged seal]

With the amount of under level 10s I get in my squad, I find that hard to believe at this point in the games life

[keen ridge]

Is there a playtest this WEEK?

[forest vigil]

as far as I know,yes

probably for asia only

[feral garden]

Might want to re-read that NDA dude.

[versed token]

Im fairly sure you aren't allowed to share the time and date of the tests

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

Or anything about labs

https://tenor.com/view/fight-club-you-do-not-talk-about-fight-club-the-narrator-gif-12296957953770786068

[mossy marten]

[sharp quarry]

Your allowed to talk about labs look at the title

[feral garden]

"Discussion the public information available around Battlefield Labs."

[mossy marten]

they really should rename the channel to "labs-public-chat"

[keen ridge]

Ups

I thought everyone knew it

[verbal crypt]

I’ve heard from insider sources this weeks test is for < 40 IQ players. They are testing crouch walking extensively

[keen ridge]

I didn't leak anything so I feel pretty good about it

[prime pollen]

no NEXT-MOVE email for 5.16th test

keep refreshing my inbox is onfire

[verbal crypt]

Mfers are schizophrenic thinking they getting invited lol

I prob have a better chance of winning the loto

[prime pollen]

anyone receive the PS5 activation-key email? There are only 15 hours left before 19:00PM utc

[obtuse root]

Whatever. I'm going to sleep anyway, tired waiting for that Email.Assume they would sent those by morning.

[tall urchin]

Your chances are almost guaranteed if you've never touched a BF game, are terrible at games in general, and are illiterate.

[verbal crypt]

That’s what I’ve been saying fr lmao. Both of those decently extensive surveys seem to have been for nothing. I’ve got over like 10,000 hours in FPS games how am I not testing

[feral garden]

Cos none of this matters.

🤣

[prime pollen]

I'm going to bed too.

[verbal crypt]

Absolutely matters to have players of all calibers (especially top talent with great game sense) testing the game lol

[feral garden]

They have that

[verbal crypt]

I sure hope so

[sharp quarry]

Same I don’t know what they are doing

I have so many hours in bf5, bf1, and 2042

[verbal crypt]

I am legitimately curious if those surveys served any purpose at all lol

[sharp quarry]

I think they are trying to see if your “character” fits into their playtests

[feral garden]

For EA data collection, yes. For playtest selection...probably not.

A maybe at best

[verbal crypt]

I just find it strange because I’ve taken MANY many surveys like that for pre alphas/alphas for various other FPS games and I’ve always been chosen to test lol. Not trying to gloat at all but I’ve either but extremely lucky with every other test or you’re right and these surveys didn’t mean shit lol

[feral garden]

Selection for Labs is also extremely low. Its scaling up more and more as the tests happen based on what they tell us, so chance of selection grows each time I guess.

[rugged seal]

The surveys were most likely just for demographic and data collection

Nothing prevented me from putting i have played 10,000 hours of fps if that was even a question

[glad trench]

Y’all keep acting like there’s not good players in there because we’ve seen leaked from like ~2 dozen players

You think literate, good players don’t know what an nda is

[verbal crypt]

I’m not even judging it based on the leaks. I’m in 4 other discords with thousands and thousands of members and I only know of 2 people who got in and both are terrible newbies lol. I know smart ppl aren’t gonna leak anything but you know they’d at least say “yep I got in” if yall are chafing at night lol

[mossy marten]

Highly doubt they'd mention to anybody if they have some sliver of skill

[verbal crypt]

I’m talking about dudes I’ve known for almost a decade. Chatting with them every night. You know how that type of chatting goes. I’d expect someone to just be like yep I got invited lol

Maybe I’m tripping idk lmao

[nimble bridge]

They don't want good players, they want BF1 audience imo

[tall urchin]

A lot easier just making Michael Bay explosions, sound design, and a military aesthetic than make a good game.

Maybe they can sell those Marvel Rivals get out of jail free cards so they can redeem losses for wins to feel better about themselves

[verbal crypt]

If this ends up being an immersion simulator I’ll be so sick

[tepid plinth]

Bf4 proved they can do both, as people praise it for its own ‘immersive qualities’ despite not really dumbing down its gameplay to do so

[mossy marten]

[verbal crypt]

I’d have no prob with bf4 level immersion and gameplay tbh

[tall urchin]

I'll be shocked if that's the case since the movement looks pretty stripped down, so unless we find some engine level exploits that don't get patched I don't see us having much depth.

[tepid plinth]

I won’t lie I do appreciate some good cinematic theatrics, as a ‘gameplay narrative’ though presentation, voice lines and the like is important to me, but I’m also not the type to want to remove gameplay elements just because they aren’t giga realistic

[tepid plinth]

Honestly I’m not critiquing much of the movement at this point since I can’t really trust any of the people who have decided to leak footage to know what to test in the first place

Heck, you can tell people today that air strafe exists in 4 and they’ll question you since they didn’t even know it existed

[tall urchin]

That's often a fair assessment, though I largely base my feelings off just the modern trend of FPS design

BF4 was designed when games could still have skill gaps, now games have to protect the most oblivious players to farm retention and cosmetics off of.

[winter viper]

tbh the leaked footage seems to be recorded by a console player (or PC player using a roller) stuck at 55 FOV for "muh immersion", as of yet I dont think these people who leaked anything have actually killed anyone in the game besides my brain cells trying to watch it

[tall urchin]

Also yes

[tepid plinth]

Ha, love that

That’s my point really. Like, I don’t feel I have the right to critique anything like ttk, recoil, movement and a lot of that feel stuff because what we’ve seen just doesn’t properly represent what actually exists

[winter viper]

The leaked "Sniper gameplay" made me laugh a good while. 5 shots, no kills and gets blown up....super impressive

[tepid plinth]

Even stuff like class balance and whatnot feels difficult to critique because the way it all works together is something you feel in the moment

So really, the only thing I can feel comfortable critiquing are visuals and general presentation things, which are going to be as minimal as possible anyway because these are systems tests not visual pass tests. So yeah, not much to say really

[winter viper]

Now other leaks I've seen with a higher fov looks like movement is on point with BFV, if slightly slower looking

Still, looks exciting

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

Very well could be, there could even be 2042 slide hops but I’ve not seen anyone do a full showcase of movement, nor can I trust that what they show is the full range of movement

[verbal crypt]

This guy is the emoji king

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

Second only to angra

[verbal crypt]

I’m about to play my bi weekly 2042 session how long does everyone think I will last

[mossy marten]

15min on cq 128, 30min on bt, 60min on cqc playlist

[verbal crypt]

Playing breakthrough, will report back after I’ve gone 70-9 and we get steamrolled lol

[winter viper]

10 mins

[verbal crypt]

Already quit lmao, cancer game with the most wild player base I’ve ever seen

Absolute droolers

[tall urchin]

You were the closest without going over

[verbal crypt]

Your prize is my pain and suffering

[pearl shuttle]

I wanna join new bf test in Asia😭

[winter viper]

You could play BFV but...

[nimble bridge]

BFV is worse tbh

[winter viper]

I had this last night

[verbal crypt]

Yo what the fuck lmao

[nimble bridge]

Try to flank and capture objective, meet with 3 LMG proners you can't even see due to awful visibility

[mossy marten]

that's sonic the hedgehog
"gotta go fast"

[verbal crypt]

Isn’t there a big ass clan that has crazy cheats for BFV? They are from china or something lol

[winter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/talladega-nights-fastest-gif-20583542

[mossy marten]

what's more whack is that same guy could also swap teams at will

[winter viper]

Bro I've seen dudes rapid fire JB rockets like a machine gun.

[verbal crypt]

Ain’t no way lmao 🤣

[pearl shuttle]

Flash man!!!

[verbal crypt]

EA anticheat is phenomenal

[mossy marten]

yes way, i was there for that

[nimble bridge]

I've seen people redeploy an entire server lmao

[tall urchin]

Sounds doable, and honestly tame compared to Apex cheaters

[mossy marten]

that happened before ea anti cheat funny enough

[winter viper]

or they redeploy the entire map...that one is fun

[verbal crypt]

Ayooo

Redeploying a whole map is CRAZY lol

I’d rage

[mossy marten]

with the anticheat, there's cheaters, but not as much as there was before the anti cheat was added

before the anti cheat, HOLY it was BADDDD

v2 rocket spam, mass redeploy, crazier cheats, all chat spam, etc etc

[tall urchin]

Apex cheaters could fly above the map and infinitely hold a Charge Rifle beam while aimbotting like a death star

Or dual wield weapons

[verbal crypt]

Last time I played some dude had like infinite smokes and smoked the entire map out and aimbot everyone lmao

[pearl shuttle]

Before anti cheat it was the war of gods

[mossy marten]

and there was two "factions" of cheaters, BFV_PRO_HACKER and the other ones
pro hacker was weird for sure, he kicked all the cheaters out that didn't use his cheats

i did kill him once when he was speedhacking tho on underground

[pearl shuttle]

[verbal crypt]

Holy fuckin cringe lmao

[mossy marten]

he was the one who did the v2 rocket spam
on operation underground too, where it's not available to use

[pearl shuttle]

I saw a tiger on underground before

[verbal crypt]

Jesus man lol

Ahhh Junda is on let’s see how he’s enjoying the games. “Tunes in and sees him with his head in his hands lmao”

[winter viper]

lol

[verbal crypt]

This game sucks the soul out of you and not in the good way

[mossy marten]

"ANY REZZERS"

[verbal crypt]

Lmfao

[winter viper]

F******* BOTS

[verbal crypt]

Time to boot up RDR2 and go for trick shots on townspeople

[tall urchin]

Gotta do that in Oblivion remastered

[verbal crypt]

Bro I saw some dude hit a crazyyyy trickshot the other night in that lmao

Was unbelievable

[tall urchin]

Yeah, some people have done like cross Cyrodil jump shots on some bandits

[verbal crypt]

Lmao that’s great

[jaunty jetty]

oh i see

[gleaming dagger]

ain't no way my friend from japan got access to BF LABS 😭

DICE PLS INCLUDE Sout East Asia we want to play it too

[tall urchin]

Skill issued

[molten nimbus]

hi

everyone

[gleaming dagger]

Yeah you not wrong

i don't want to live here lmao

[tall urchin]

That's OK I'm Canadian so I feel you

[winter viper]

congrats to him, too bad he broke NDA telling you lol

[tall urchin]

Ask DICE if you can have their key

[gleaming dagger]

nah its not his telling me

its on the EA APP

lmao

you actually can see they play BF Labs

[gleaming dagger]

can't tag them i will get nuked

[forest vigil]

Does this test can only use controller?

[rugged seal]

this channel is strictly for public info about labs, dont break nda by talking about participation in it

[languid lance]

And I haven't gotten the cdk yet

[obtuse root]

ooh I see

sry for that, I'll just delete the message

[rugged seal]

if you were selected then all info will be sent to your email

[gleaming dagger]

is EA app show what your friend playing BF labs is break their NDA ?

bruh

[burnt agate]

I’ve seen a lot of people on Reddit talking about the the player base that has been selected and apparently it’s very low houred players getting accepted is this true ?

[weak obsidian]

probably not

[burnt agate]

Anyone who got accepted is it just for that one playtest or will they now be in every playtest?

[weak obsidian]

the latter

[burnt agate]

Can you still sign up or have I missed the curve ?

[weak obsidian]

the former

[tepid plinth]

It’s just the people posting footage aren’t all that bright. The good players are the ones who know how to adhere to the nda

I’ve seen a few names listed on the scoreboard of early leaks that I recognise who do play the game well, they just aren’t coming forward about it because they know not to as to preserve their involvement

[burnt agate]

Ohh okay that’s good to hear

[pulsar cape]

Anybody same?

[tepid plinth]

Probably because you’ve just disclosed in a public chat that you are in it

[gleaming dagger]

yikes

if you get access just keep it a secret

[pulsar cape]

Nah bro i didn't do anything 😭

[pulsar cape]

Fr
@tepid plinth u know any other explanations?😭

[tepid plinth]

Nah you breached nda, say goodbye to your playtest

For real though I haven’t got a clue. Nobody here is in it

[feral garden]

Just keep an eye on your emails, spam folder, ETC from the email you used to sign up. Everything will be shared there, nothing will be shared here. It can just take some time to receive everything. .

[safe moat]

Thanks for reminding me to check emails because i just got an email i was waiting for

And no, its not BF Labs

[prime pollen]

maybe the system default language?

[rugged seal]

do not discuss your participation in playtesting here

if there is someplace to discuss it then there would be information in your email regarding how to find it

[prime pollen]

dont be a fvking ruined night🥹

[serene atlas]

ps5 cant join the game

only on the option page

[tepid plinth]

don't know why you're talking about that here, we can't help at all

[serene atlas]

and there are no anly word on this page

only five select

[inner gust]

I think it all nonsense word

I download it again,looking what will happen

It's worked!!!

[serene atlas]

really？

i go to try

[inner gust]

Yes,but it takes time

Maybe you can wait for the next test?

[weak obsidian]

netspend

[prime pollen]

netspeed lol

[clear viper]

You guys are gonna get banned for violating your NDAs btw

Stop talking about it here

[unkempt plover]

This has become a bad meme at this point. Remember guys. Some of these plain ***** are the ones leaving "feedback" about the game.. ..

[verbal crypt]

The sub Reddit is veryyy interesting this morning lmao

[covert nest]

What's the new drama.

[feral garden]

Nothing new, just a bunch of soon to be banned people lol

[rustic coyote]

but... why is it always controller? PCs never leak?

[tall urchin]

PC players are actually literate

[covert nest]

To be fair PC players leak too but it's not as crazy.

[verbal crypt]

The one dudes Xbox setup was abysmal. Took dirty as hell dust everywhere lol

They are inviting tik tok kids

[tepid plinth]

They are inviting random people, just so happens they are the ones who don’t bother reading the nda

[verbal crypt]

I know that I’m just yappin lol

[unkempt plover]

Even if they can read I doubt they actually would understand it. I mean judging by some of these questions they post.. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer to put it mildly.

[verbal crypt]

Should have been an IQ test to qualify tbh lmao

[unkempt plover]

👆

[verbal crypt]

Kids on Reddit crying because you can dive into cover lmfao

Saying it’s cod movement even tho the dive is heavy and slow lol

[clear viper]

This is the iq test. All the dumb people are too stupid to not be banned immediately for telling people they got in the initiative

[tepid plinth]

I haven’t even seen anyone use a dive move yet

Goes to show how people really can’t base too much off of this footage alone

[verbal crypt]

Just saw it today you’ll see it

[timid estuary]

anyone know if theres a potential invite wave going out in the next 2 weeks? id hate to miss my chance when on vacation lol

[tepid plinth]

my assumption was there would be one every week

but if you do happen to get one during your holiday, my condolences

[gleaming dagger]

didn't we also get the same leak from that website before 2042 release lol

im not surprised

[verbal crypt]

We will be getting a crazy amount of leaks now that they have expanded to China and other countries lol

[gleaming dagger]

CN player that mostly leaks those

they just don't care tbh lmao

[verbal crypt]

They do not give a fuck lmao

[gleaming dagger]

yeh

[mossy marten]

Well today's an interesting day on reddit

[inner gust]

Yeah,I even saw a player test it when he's Living

About ten minutes later,the live room banned

[unkempt plover]

Got an email😃.. About the Dead Space event in BF2042😬

[mint cobalt]

Out of curiosity how many those who played BF3, played the Coop Mission and like it?

[feral garden]

I played them for the achievements at the time. But they were pretty bad missions.

[mint cobalt]

Okay I was worried I might alone in this, because I didn’t like them either, I believe I only did one of them because it was an requirement to unlock a weapon I think

[glad trench]

It’s where I learned how to fly helicopters

An artist coming out with his artwork from 2017, showing that bungie boosted it and its design style for marathon…

[rotund pier]

FIRE WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE EMAILS

STOP SENDING EMAILS FOR THE FUCKING 2042 EVENTS

[mossy marten]

Bro needs a chill pill

[tepid plinth]

Needs an invite in order to relax

[glad trench]

The amount of emotional investment some y’all have in a super limited playtest is unhinged and unhealthy

It’s like crashing out for not winning 100k off a scratcher

[rotund pier]

Nah I just hate receiving a BATTLEFIELD email just for it to be the same fucking email that i’ve been getting for over a month now

[versed token]

Fairly sure you can opt out of them

[nimble bridge]

Did DICE reimplemented long neck bug for the test again

[verbal crypt]

🦒

[glad trench]

We are so back

[mossy marten]

• bf3 inspired maps
• classes
• destruction
• long neck soldier

[short schooner]

They better add long necks for April fools

[verbal crypt]

Marathon is fucking COOKED lmao

[sharp quarry]

ha

[wraith ibex]

yoyo, what are the chances of getting into labs? is it rare? and how often do they send out keys/access (if they still do)

[mossy marten]

Very Rare, we don't know how often

[wraith ibex]

ok thanks

[tall urchin]

Imagine the only good thing people can say about your generic trend chasing slop is the aesthetic and then people found out you stole it

[verbal crypt]

Bungie is dumb af tbh lol. They got caught in so much nonsense in the past and now this

[tall urchin]

Apparently this isn't close to the first time it's happened, which is absolutely bonkers to hear

And it's one thing if a single artist or contracted worker did it, but many significant devs having the artist followed is damning

[weak obsidian]

not a single leaker sliding or jumping

[tepid plinth]

Or getting a kill from the looks of it

[weak obsidian]

yeah they're not the best at the game...

[dry grotto]

I wonder, could they display how much time objectives have being captured by which side at the end of the match

[versed token]

Yes

[kindred haven]

can they give the new bf a name?

cause everytime i talk about it to someone, i just have to say new battlefield

[empty tartan]

But they should remove the capture lines on the ground (or make it an option to turn it off)

[gentle vault]

I imagine the tests happen on weekends anyway? I work weekends so im automatically out. Fingers crossed though.

[tepid plinth]

No it will forever not be named

[kindred haven]

i think its a little stupid, even other early access products are named

[versed token]

Too bad it isn't early access then

[rotund pier]

1 in 1000

[tepid plinth]

As per every battlefield prior it has code names, but it won’t get an official name drop until its official announcement

[rotund pier]

Maybe 1 in 10000

[kindred haven]

ahh thank you

anyway i hope they inv me to .... soon

not like games like arc raiders already have a established name

its just akward every other game that has a playtest already has a name established

but maybe there some licensing reasons i dont understand

[tepid plinth]

Cause it’s part of a franchise. We know it’s ‘battlefield <something>’, so using that name drop as a marketing ploy is effective. A new studio making their first game independent of any franchise won’t get much fanfare for a name drop

But in reality it just boils down to the fact that they don’t want to share the name yet

[nimble bridge]

I hope we can turn off weapon motion blur and dynamic red dot(also please red dot color customization)

[tepid plinth]

But you can also just call it bf6 as we have been

[weak obsidian]

what is dynamic red dot

[fleet robin]

they're pc players using a controller

[nimble bridge]

I think red dot moves when you shoot to show the direction of recoil at least it seemed like that to me

[weak obsidian]

it's probably tied to the recoil system so I doubt it'd be a toggle

[nimble bridge]

If you played MWIII reflector sight worked similar

[weak obsidian]

I thought that was just how the nu-MW recoil system worked on every optic

[nimble bridge]

I only played MWIII so I'm not sure how it works on others Would rather turn it off tbh if there is an option for it

[cold condor]

https://gyazo.com/8b7627e04024114c4d9de2ffe9b62ce4 okay now they fixed it tells u if its on ya region or not

[tepid plinth]

F

[verbal crypt]

I just watched a leaker repair torch the air for 15 seconds 🤣

I’m legit not kidding when I say 90% of BF players actually drool while playing

[versed token]

I just assume most of them have the brain function of an amoeba

[verbal crypt]

Forreal lol

[nimble bridge]

I get the first hand experience of drooling BF players every day 🥶 Medic barges into a room with 5 downed teammates, first thing he does is trying to revive them instead of checking if there is a camper waiting him 😂

They don’t even use smokes 💀

[versed token]

The amount of Falcks i've had just walk over me and not revive is staggering

even when there was no danger

Hell they don't even use the med pistol on themselves or teammates

[nimble bridge]

Well game I described was BFV

BFV has opposite issue, everyone revives regardless of situation even when it's to their and team's detriment

[quiet otter]

how to get invite

do we js wait

[verbal crypt]

Wait and pray my friend lol

[urban meteor]

Hello guys, anyone that played the playtest, can confirm there is a hole system like BF1?

[versed token]

They can't tell you

[naive vigil]

Hole system?

[mossy marten]

Maybe terrain deformation from explosions??

[naive vigil]

My guess is that you would be able to figure that out from the Youtube leaked videos.

[rotund pier]

1 whole ass hour of leaks

Still think this is closer to 2042 than a real BF game

[minor linden]

🤷 we won't really know until the public beta

[mossy marten]

Ngl
You kinda smoking something cuz it doesn't look like 2042 all lol

[naive vigil]

It is kind of too early to tell but it doesn't seem like 2042 from the videos. Looks closer to 4.

[verbal crypt]

From what I’ve seen it looks nothing like 2042 to me ngl lol

[tepid plinth]

Shocker that the next game might look a bit like the one before

[golden vortex]

Shocker that this channel is not about the initiative about testing the new game.

[verbal crypt]

Prob cause only 0.001% of the player base gets to play it and half prob don’t even have discord 🤣

[weak obsidian]

how

this is such a nothingburger statement that's based off on vibes and nothing else

[rotund pier]

The class system

It’s literally my only complaint about the game 🤷‍♂️

[weak obsidian]

in the new game or 2042?

[rotund pier]

Both

Well I had more complaints in bf2042

But that was a huge one

And in this new one it’s the biggest

Cuz this “class system” is ass

[weak obsidian]

I don't see what's so bad about it

[feral garden]

Explain why

[tepid plinth]

Weapon restrictions probably

[feral garden]

Weapon restrictions dont really define a class system tho. Also, nothing players have seen thus far should have been seen. Everything is not final, so we have no clue if non class locked weapons will even be in the final version

For now at least, and until we know more, im not considering non class locked weapons as an issue

[weak obsidian]

yeah why would carbines be a class if there weren't going to be weapon restrictions

[feral garden]

Good question TBH

2042 has the AK as an SMG...so if those were going to be added, why wouldnt they just make them SMGs or ARs

[rotund pier]

I think at this point it’s very clear there won’t be class restrictions imo

Like everything points towards there being a free pool of weapons

[feral garden]

How can you say that, when they havent even added all the gadgets lol

Seems like you only want to hate, and not add any constructive feedback (Looking back at your past messages)

[rotund pier]

I would like stats showing what class is the most picked in these playtests

[rotund pier]

And you’d be right

[weak obsidian]

also you can equip two AT launchers and two GLs, the class system definitely not final lmao

[rotund pier]

Because I was very positive when 2042 was coming out and it all went to shit

So now I nitpick every little shit I dislike

[feral garden]

Na, 12 rockets is 100% final. /s

[weak obsidian]

fell for it again award

[rotund pier]

Anything that reminds me of 2042 is a nono for me

And the whole class system reminds me of it

Not just the weapon pool

[weak obsidian]

I mean if you fell for the 2042 marketing that's on you

[feral garden]

Whole class system = weapons only apparently

[rotund pier]

I mean the “ult” abilities, the assault being whatever it is

The named characters

[weak obsidian]

discussion around the new game is annoying because a lot of people got baited by 2042

[rotund pier]

I only fell for the first trailer of 2042

[feral garden]

*because the game is not finished, and people are drawing conclusions more than Bob Ross drew little bushes

[weak obsidian]

I'd argue the BF4 damage reduction specialistion is probably worse

also they've already nerfed a lot of field passives already

[weak obsidian]

people will see one placeholder from 2042 and start freaking out

[rotund pier]

I dunno, we’ll aee

[weak obsidian]

tbh not having weapon restriction is whatever anyways

people pick guns, not classes

[tepid plinth]

I'm not critiquing much of anything at this time, just too little info to make any informed decision

[rotund pier]

Guns are part of the classes, it’s like playing chess

[mossy marten]

They just need to add specialization to classes on what weapon archetype they use

[tepid plinth]

although about weapon restrictions specifically it goes both ways, the pros and cons balance out for me

[weak obsidian]

not really

people see the gun first

that's why no one played medic in 1

[rotund pier]

To me, the free weapon pool is like playing chess except you can’t see the pieces the enemy has

[feral garden]

I feel like weapon specialization wont matter, as you cant make it negative enough to make it matter what a player chooses, or you might as well have restricted weapons

And 2042s weapon specialization was basically pointless.

[rotund pier]

Or I guess a better comparison would be that the pieces use movements of other pieces

[tepid plinth]

perhaps. it's a double edged sword, I can get that perspective of choosing the gun over the class but if you are flexible enough to find the fun in the limitation I'd say it really does overshadow that

[weak obsidian]

I mean universal weapon classes already kinda blur the line there

[feral garden]

Maybe it would be better, if you could only use basic loadouts of weapons not in your classes specialty (No gunsmiting of those weapons on that class), but have full control over the setup of weapons your class is proficient with

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's just most folks want an easy to use gun

that being ARs or SMGs

[tepid plinth]

I just find that with restrictions it feels more like my class has value

alongside the changes in playstyle required, which I do find genuinely fun

[rotund pier]

I will agree free weapon pools just gives way more freedom, but I like classes having certain playstyles

Recon, ok I will sit far away and take down whoever tries to flank and shit, or I will sneak around a place a beacon so my squad can flank behind enemy lines

[feral garden]

It does, but freedom is not always a good thing. 2042 is a case and point for that

[rotund pier]

Support, ok I’ll sit here and lay supression fire so my team can push or I’ll just cover a hall so nobody can pass

With the free weapon system everyone’ll just pic an assault rifle

And run in thrre with whatever gadget they want the most

[tepid plinth]

buuuut

playing a recon specialist with an smg or ar and being able to use their gadgets in a different way is also very fun

That's where the difficulty lies. Both have pros and cons

[rotund pier]

Playing support just because you want to flank but want a big box of healing or ammo

[rotund pier]

Yeah I know

[feral garden]

Past games offered freedom in different ways. Like having carbines, DMRs and shotguns be all class in BF4. Close enough in use/performance to ARs and bolt actions to make any class/playstyle possible.

[rotund pier]

DMRs should just be deleted from games ngl

They are all so shit

[weak obsidian]

skill issue

[rotund pier]

It’s so hard to balance those

[rotund pier]

The svk on 2042 was the shittiest gun I ever laid hands upon

It took half a fucking hour for the trigger to reset

[weak obsidian]

alright man

if you find it hard to use the SVK

then you're just bad

it's basically a better RSC 1917

[tall urchin]

BSVM and SVK were some of the most busted weapons in the game and they're DMRs

M39 was also crazy strong before they hurt it with the visual recoil changes in S7

[rugged seal]

Svk 2 shot up to 100m

[feral garden]

Yeah, DMRs are only bad if you have zero patience to learn weapons outside of full auto rifles

[weak obsidian]

this is why no one wanted to play medic in 1

[feral garden]

I loved medic in 1 haha

[mossy marten]

Svk is the zh of 2042
And it's annoying af lol

[rugged seal]

The svk on hourglass is like a cheat code for every engagement distance on each capture point

Same for orbital

[weak obsidian]

me too

[rotund pier]

Bruh

How

I literally thought every DMR was good EXCEPT the svk

[weak obsidian]

the DM7 is the biggest piece of crap

[rotund pier]

Wait

No no

Yeah

You are right

I’m mixing up my memories

It was the dm7 that was ass

[rugged seal]

I dont even like the g428 because its sight options are awful

[feral garden]

It feels weird TBH. Its like they tried to make a more balanced BSV...but when the BSV is there...why use anything other than it

Fine for a bit of use when it released, but people will gravitate back to the better weapons. Same story with the DFR strife. People hyped it so much at its release, but you basically never see it now

[rotund pier]

Going prone with the pkp is unbeatable

[verbal crypt]

BSV with short barrel and High power rounds is fucking GROSS in CQC and even mid range tbh lol

Literally so broken

[nimble bridge]

Guns should be class locked. Why would I run recon instead of medic otherwise? Medic will be able to heal themselves from safety and shoot from the safety.

[nimble bridge]

Good, I don't want negative ADS speed, negative ADS strafe speed, negative aiming sway etc. in BF, keep that shit to CoD Honestly they can just remove all downsides and just have point system as the limiting factor.

[nimble bridge]

I would rather want them to delete bolt actions or shotguns before DMRs. DMRs are fun. Only reason I used assault in BFV tbh, ARs were good but not that good when SMGs also exist. DMRs however were great.

[feral garden]

Points limit for customization could also be an option, thats true.

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, if you give too much negatives to gun customization it will turn to MWII, people won't engage in it and use whatever gives them no/least downsides or just use stock guns

[tall urchin]

Shotgun uses all your customization points, eats up gadget slots, and inverts all your controls

[nimble bridge]

Assault gadget selection seems very limited tbh, I have a few ideas but people would most likely hate them, sprint stim and spot stim, sprint stim can give tac sprint speed of 2042 for 20 seconds with minor health regen speed buff and spot stim would make player unspottable for 20 seconds while also giving similar health regen buff What do you guys think? They will of course occupy one of the gadget slots.

[tall urchin]

I'd love a movement gadget

[nimble bridge]

Same, but seems to be too much of a hero shooter element

[tall urchin]

I mean a slight jab of adrenaline as long as it doesn't get too crazy in speed increase doesn't stray too far.

And it's probably easier to balance a speed boost than something utility based like a grapple or zipline

[feral garden]

Nothing that changes player movement behavior, damage or health. Completely unnecessary

You cant spend 3 years complaining about hero elements in 2042, then ask for them

[nimble bridge]

I like the speed of tac sprint tbh, even when I don't like having 2 different speeds of running

[tall urchin]

Yeah the speed was fine, having two modes of sprint was pointless.

I'm just hoping there's still some means of conserving momentum

[weak obsidian]

something like a zipline that everyone can use would be cool

otherwise it's a bit weird they don't really have an ability that benefits other teammates ...

[tall urchin]

My only issue with a zipline is you have to ensure it can't be used for rat spots or weird verticality that breaks map design

[feral garden]

Fully vertical rappel line would be fine. Grapples and horizontally placed lines are lame. they break map design too much

[weak obsidian]

looking at you mackay

[feral garden]

Generally speaking tho, I dont want grappel or zip lines at all. At least those that players can place.

[tall urchin]

If you could use a horizontal zipline to get a slight speed boost and carry that momentum with a bhop? Now I'm down.

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-puke-throw-up-gag-barf-gif-11199247647189633146

[weak obsidian]

assault gets armour boxes 🤫

[tall urchin]

I'd rather the TTK get in that moderate range with no plates.

Plates were just awful in 2042

[weak obsidian]

tbh I never noticed them

[nimble bridge]

Same

[weak obsidian]

it would be neat if different classes had different armour levels but that's a #controversial opinion

[tall urchin]

Anything that gives an EHP advantage just ruins a lot of aspects of gunplay

[feral garden]

Consistent TTK for all players is best. If they want to have armor in their BR mode, fire away. Keep that out of the core modes tho. Either everyone has armor, or no-one does.

[weak obsidian]

most of the leakers being PC players being forced to use a controller might explain the gameplay tbh

[feral garden]

Its all PS5 players

[nimble bridge]

2142 had something similar if I remember

[weak obsidian]

and BF2

[feral garden]

Nobody is being forced to use controller. How a stupid rumor like that started ill never know

[weak obsidian]

they might primarily play on PC

[tall urchin]

I wonder why they even test the controller input anyways, EA will just give them soft aimbot to copy CoD's casual player retention lol

[weak obsidian]

some dude was using KBM in one of the clips and he was hitting heads with the sniper

[feral garden]

Your last 2 messages contradict

How could everyone be forced to use controller, but someone be using MKB?

[weak obsidian]

kbm input on PS5 was enabled in the last playtest

[feral garden]

The sniper leak wasnt from that tho

[weak obsidian]

this time it was on conquest

[feral garden]

So what, console has KBM, but not PC?

[weak obsidian]

the older one was from a breakthrough game afaik

[feral garden]

Where is the critical thought and logic

[weak obsidian]

well wasn't it a PS5 only playtest

people can own both things

[verbal crypt]

I heard they are playing on Switch joycons

[weak obsidian]

BF6 on the Switch 2

[verbal crypt]

10 fps

[sage steeple]

Is there any footage of a full building crumbling down to nothing from any of the leaked footage?

[mossy marten]

They're better not be level-able buildings in the next BF
I'd rather there be cover than not

[minor linden]

Yeah. I like the bones thing that it seems like they’re going with

Like, you can destroy most of the building but the core is indestructible

[verbal crypt]

Yeah I’m hoping for the same cause you know there will be someone who sits in a tank all game and just levels every building lol

[naive vigil]

I'm hoping for levelution again.

[sage steeple]

There could be a balance of both core buildings being destroyed completely and some just the exterior falling apart.honestly wouldn’t mind that but of course u do have the tank campers all match lol

[oak condor]

i'd rather shit not be destructible at all with how badly they've handled infantry cover in 5 and 2042

like, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

[mossy marten]

infantry cover? in 2042?
i don't think there was any

[near rampart]

I don’t want levolution, but destruction in line with Bad Company 2 would be super ideal. Where small buildings can be leveled

BC2’s destruction in general again would be amazing

[tepid plinth]

I do wonder how vehicles will end up balanced at the start of the next game

2042’s balance was such a travesty I hope they have corrected it from that

If the scout gets infantry rockets again…

[versed token]

You don't want the littlebird to be anti-everything and have the best mobility in the game?

[tepid plinth]

I do want it to be fun, but not overwhelming strong

The op rocket days were actually
Insane

I loved how people would slowly start to unlock the later vehicles and just get progressively more confused with how strong they were. Good times

[feral garden]

I mainly hope they dont add new powerful vehicles, just for the sake of adding something. Looking at you EBLC RAM, Tor Tank

Heli rocket pods on the littlebird should have been a primary, then another air to air missile added for secondary

[nimble bridge]

They should add meme vehicles I want to call in a tuk tuk

[feral garden]

tuk tuk as a legendary vehicle call in

[sand quarry]

Anybody know when play tests are because I signed up for them yesterday

[feral garden]

Playtest info isn't publicly available. If you get chosen as a tester, they will give you that info

[sand quarry]

Is it sent via email

[rotund pier]

Not even Joe Biden has access to the playtest

[versed token]

No they beam all the info straight into your brain

[minor linden]

We need another HL couch

[quiet otter]

how many testers are chosen at once

[stray veldt]

we don't know

[near rampart]

Tuk tuk pre loaded with C4

[open moon]

All these leaked videos of the new battlefield is a bunch of controller players. I wanna know how it feels with a mouse

[fleet robin]

it looks like controller is forced so you probably won't know for a while

[feral garden]

Not sure why you keep spreading this fake rumor

[fleet robin]

because i've not seen a single leak with a mouse being used

[feral garden]

no? Thats also really dumb logic

[fleet robin]

it's pretty sound considering we also have footage of the nvidia overlay active

so we know it's pc footage

[feral garden]

So you think every little detail about these tests would be mined and posted online. But controller being forced wouldnt? Excellent reasoning TBH

[fleet robin]

do you think it's pure coincidence that all the leaks are using controller and half of the players aim like they've never touched a controller before lol

[feral garden]

Yes

[fleet robin]

good for you

[tepid plinth]

Just so you know there is mouse footage out there, it isn’t forced

[fleet robin]

thank you

[mossy marten]

It also doesn't make sense that labs would be forced controller use.
Why would they not work on MnK after the godawful MnK input issues on 2042

[near rampart]

I hope the whole game is forced controller. Console only release. Get me to God’s country

[mossy marten]

Ew

[near rampart]

It’s time for Bad Company 3 babyyyyy

[open moon]

That's why I wanna see some and hear people input on it

[mossy marten]

I doubt that's what it will be called imho

[mossy marten]

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[open moon]

@mossy marten took me no where

[mossy marten]

There was some leaked footage as Movement Lover said
But with MnK players, they generally seem not to leak stuff, highly doubt they are willing to lose Labs access/possible EA acc termination lol

[open moon]

I really hope they don't go the cod route and make aim assist way to strong. Where pc players just use a controller.

[mossy marten]

Probably won't do that i think

[open moon]

I hope not that shit is like a soft aim bot in cod. Jump around corners and that shit just sticks to your body

[mossy marten]

Agreed
But they could have done that with 2042, but didn't, so I don't think it'll happen

[open moon]

2042 didn't have ex cod guys running the project. I watch a leak video of a dude driving a jeep and it reminded me of cod unfortunately

[mossy marten]

Um, actually there was
Byron Beede? Live service guy for WZ

[verbal crypt]

I will only play with mouse users. MnK supremacy only

[feral garden]

He didnt work on 2042

[mossy marten]

Who was it then that worked on 2042?

I forget lol

[feral garden]

All those senior people were brought in around 2022/2023 to design the next game

He gets a special thanks note for 2042, so thats why I say he basically wasnt incharge of much related to it.

[mossy marten]

Oh well
It's not like they'll be calling the shots fully in the end since Zampella is the head of BF

[versed token]

Could be responsible for the remake of 2042

[feral garden]

Possibly, but would be weird considering their expertise

Its not like the live service of 2042 was good or anything

[verbal crypt]

I heard they are making controller have 200% less recoil and making RAA stronger than ever

[open moon]

The leaked graphics look good but I get this hint if MW2019 MW2 in that shit

[mossy marten]

In what way?

[open moon]

Idc if they have less recoil it's just the aim assist bs

[feral garden]

It just looks like how 2042 should have looked. Being a visual progression forward from BF1 and BFV IMO

[mossy marten]

Just because a rumored gun happens to be the kilo141 (hk433)

[open moon]

Just the look of how the character is with the guns and like I said before the jeep video

[feral garden]

A rumor started by a reddit user posting a video that isnt theirs...and calling it the kilo...lol

[mossy marten]

They look like "normal" soldiers
Jeep haven't seen

[rotund pier]

The weapon selection screen looks pulled out of mw19 ngl

[feral garden]

"Its what I know it by from COD" they say on that video

[mossy marten]

Yeah, not everyone calls it the irl name
CoD fake name brainrot

[mossy marten]

It looks like a normal fps weapon selection?

[rotund pier]

I aint saying it’s bad I’m just saying I understand the “looks like mwii part”

[open moon]

It's the way they are gripping the rifles. What do they call it the c clamp grip or something

[rotund pier]

Plus i haven’t seen any other fps selection screen look like that

[rotund pier]

C clamp is peak that’s what I use

It’s comfy af

[mossy marten]

C clamp is quite a normal shooting grip?
Depending on what foregrip is used thi

[open moon]

That maybe. It just gives a cod vibe when I watch these leaked videos

[feral garden]

COD puts thing used IRL in game > BF puts IRL thing used in their game

Players: "they copied COD"

[mossy marten]

Oh look, they have the hk433, they copied CoD
Oh look, the soldiers look normal like mw19 milsim skins, they copied cod

[open moon]

Cod vibes from ex cod devs?

[feral garden]

There are like...4 Ex Cod devs working on this game to my knowledge. and 2 of them are executives.

[open moon]

I could care less what weapon they have lol it's all about how the game is looking

Yep they are in charge

[mossy marten]

It looks like a modern era fps

[feral garden]

Vince Zampella is incharge tho? Are you just saying things to say them?

Or because he worked on COD 20 years ago, is that also a bad thing lol

[open moon]

No but you always have something to say I've noticed in this discord

[verbal crypt]

I heard they actually just elected Bobby Kotick to lead

[feral garden]

Whats the issue with having something to say?

[mossy marten]

The whole "it looks like CoD" has been happening ever since bf3

[feral garden]

Better to just sit here and heve people speak nonsense I guess.

[open moon]

You never stfu. Anyone say anything you chime in

[feral garden]

and?

[open moon]

Bf3 never looked or felt like cod. Bf4 started leaning towards cod by getting faster

[feral garden]

BF3 and 4 are almost identical speed games. To the point that a lot of people called it Battlefield 3.5 at the time

[open moon]

Lol ok

[mossy marten]

Battlefield has never been a slowpaced game
It's slower in some ways than cod, but it's faster in other ways too

[feral garden]

Gameplay loop wise BF is slower, because its main focus isnt TDM, or TDM adjacent modes.

[mossy marten]

Lars Gustavson back many, many moons ago has said that BF is a run n gun game, which drum roll please is also CoD

[feral garden]

If you sit still and dont aways move/re-position in COD, youre gonna die when the spawns flip and 5 players land on top of you

[open moon]

Disagree I noticed it thr first week I had it still remember telling my buddy's it felt like cod

[feral garden]

In BF you have more ability to not move, cos flags and sectors have learnable defense points and approaches

[open moon]

I don't play cod anymore got boring but when I did play it s&d

[stark leaf]

Lets hope we get some news on Potral 2.0

[covert nest]

Battlefield has always catered to a mix of playstyles.

[oak condor]

people have this weird idea that bf2 was some kind of proto-arma when it was really just a bigger, clunkier cod

people were schmoovin back then too

you had teams that would play 4v4

[covert nest]

The only difference between then and now is that more players are better than before. Despite what it seems. Just the rift between good and bad players is larger and more obvious.

[oak condor]

https://youtu.be/umeXp97q_sI

[verbal crypt]

I’d actually argue that players are worse now than before lol. I’ve only gotten older yet the average player in BFV, 2042, etc that I run into is terrible lol

My Teammates are 90% 0.5 kd bots and I’m lucky if I see 3-4 good players a in a 2 hour session lol

[covert nest]

Yeahh

Personally it just feels like its more extreme.

[mossy marten]

something something something Covid and casualization of video games

[tall urchin]

Yup, games trying to appeal to mass markets who are absolutely miserable at games and CoD/hero shooters raising the skill floors to such insanely high degrees gave people a false sense of mechanical skill they do not at all possess.

[verbal crypt]

Yeah something foul entered the water lol

[mossy marten]

"A game for everyone, is a game for no one"

[verbal crypt]

You mean the wallhack ability that I spam in every game to get 5 corner kills DOESN’T mean I’m good?!?

[tall urchin]

Worse yet games have basically zero identity anymore because they all need variations of all the same shit. If it doesn't have wallhacks, cranked up aim assist, abilities that require no finesse to land that have insane value, or abilities that negate extremely poor decision making and positioning then the game dies.

Well I say "dies" but rather "doesn't meet our 2 trillion sales expectations" and overinflated budget.

[tall urchin]

They should have just wall hacked back skill issue tbh

[verbal crypt]

Yeah it truly has been nonstop slop after slop in regard to releases and such. Make games skillful again. Most people want to turn off their brains and play like drones.

[tall urchin]

I was playing OW2 just so I could play something with some tracking and it's just insane watching some of these kill cams where people aren't even remotely aiming at my model and still registers

Not as bad as Rivals but good lord you really can just push buttons and get value

S76 actually feels rewarding but it also feels like throwing because I need 47% accuracy and insane focusing on the supports and other DPS to even hope to win.

[verbal crypt]

It feels very similar to how social media wants to flood everyone’s brains with nonstop dopamine hits. A lot of modern shooters/competitive games are aiming to hit those dopamine receptors for everyone. Like Pizza said, a game for everyone is a game for no one and it feels like most companies are trying to make a game for everyone.

[tall urchin]

And since every game is designed around the same psychology and manipulative tactics they all fight for your prolonged retention but only one game can ultimately achieve it unless you're an unemployed mouse reviewer.

And when one burns you out you have zero desire to get the same experience elsewhere.

[verbal crypt]

Yep pretty much lol. That’s why I’ve been playing everyone but shooters haha

[weak obsidian]

I don't know how people only play PvP shooters

[covert nest]

I was primarily thinking how games are making people more competitive and better but at the same time there's an extreme amount of players who just dont get the memo.

I think a lot of has to do with game design and people getting egos for abusing bad mechanics.

[tepid plinth]

Something like Overwatch you have to just embrace the stupid. Some abilities are going to be annoying and feel cheap, but there’s an ebb and flow to it that is what makes it popular

There are definitely lots of competitive shooters around, but even most of them straddle the line between aim heavy and ability focused

[feral garden]

A lot of people will try to min/max the solo soldier in games, even in 2042... and completely ignore any of the combined arms or teamplay elements.

[verbal crypt]

How I see your point is that in my eyes the players who have always wanted to be competitive are even more competitive now. Plus, we are in the era where streaming is very big. There’s also a nice chunk of younger/newer players who want to be competitive as well because they watch a streamer doing well and want to do the same. BUT, that is a very very small minority in my eyes tbh. It truthfully feels like all of the nonsensical abilities have made the “I want to turn my brain off and play” crowd even worse/lazier lol. A lot of games seem to be stripping away the real need to have a high game sense and IQ while playing

[minor linden]

Imo that’s unironically because of cod (and I’m not talking about the the new age cod stuff)

So many people played cod that k/d and kpm is now generally seen as more important than actually playing as a team

[covert nest]

People are becoming less thoughtful.

Its definitely one of the problems nowadays.

[verbal crypt]

Less passion as well

[covert nest]

It was different 10 years ago for me but you could still be young and have good games.

Black ops 3 versus black ops 6 at 16 years old.

[verbal crypt]

I’m 30 and the gaming scene has changed so much and mostly not for the better lol

[covert nest]

26 here

[minor linden]

Games used to be about having fun. Nowadays it’s just about having the best stats

Yeah, people used to brag about their stats but things like trick shots were more important than having the best kpm

[tepid plinth]

I wish I was playing more of these kinds of games back then. Back in primary people played cod, and I was stuck with Minecraft. Has the type of parents where I couldn’t play any shooters

The first one ever being Destiny on the 360 and then bf4 on pc

But from my perspective I can definitely see a shift, which I’d personally attribute to the Internet fame idea of people wanting to post clips and be this big star among the community

[covert nest]

Battlefield 5 was the first game i took super seriously because it allowed me to improve.

[tepid plinth]

But since I also don’t play cod or any comp games that perspective is skewed

[covert nest]

I think the battle royale trend really pushed for people to become more competitive and to have an ego.

Cod was the first big one too

But since fortnite was free to play it was the second push for it.

Im babbling on and should be making more coherent posts

[feral garden]

Those games, the gameplay loop, and their ease of access did likely change how players play games. But I also think its not just games that have caysed this. Its how media itself is presented and consumed that probably also caused it. Low attention spans > requiring hyper optimized deliver of info/content. Just look at the popularity of actual shortform brainrot content on all social platforms.

[tepid plinth]

I guess

I unironically don’t use shorts or anything like it so I won’t lie I’ve not seen too much of it

[feral garden]

The above is why COD, and specifically WZ got to how it was about 3-6 months ago. Always chasing player engagement, but it became too engaging...to the point that casual players were not able to enjoy

[tepid plinth]

But my general perspective was that these games are adding more ways to gain easier kills for less effort in order to deliver more fun without the effort required to achieve it in the past. A bit of a harsh statement maybe but that’s been my general perception of things these last few years

[covert nest]

How do you think i feel with the gadgets of 2042.

Specialist gadgets.

[open moon]

I never get good players in my squad. They will be down at the bottom of the scoreboard while I sit top 5. Players are definitely worse today than they were in 05

[covert nest]

Zain, dozer, Mackay and Sundance. There's always an aspect of them that are broken.

Well not broken thats taking it too far

But one aspect i believe that pushes it a bit over the edge.

[feral garden]

I dont specifically think they lowered the skill requirement for a kill, they just made it easier to move/traverse, so the time between kills was way faster. they also way over optimized how fast you can stack damage (EG...smg for plates, secondary for HP, throwing knife for downed player out), which isnt necessarily easy, but it does technically make it "easier" to get a kill

[covert nest]

(One tap shield that encourages bum rushing, Xm370 being a 3hk, sundance contact grenades / wingsuit without any downsides and well. Mackay just being mackay)

[feral garden]

I actually cant wait for the next game, so I dont have to deal with all this shit TBH.

[covert nest]

Hey bsod did you enjoy launch Boris.

[feral garden]

What frustrates me the most by far is Paiks scan...

[covert nest]

And ranger

[feral garden]

Na, not at all. lol.

[covert nest]

I just bait paik woth claymores.

Its always funny when it happens.

Id argue in a way rao has more potential to be busted but they're both sides of the same coin.

[feral garden]

I still think they should have made boris turret WAY stronger, but target vehicles only.

[covert nest]

TV missile that encourages APS to be used cause it doesn't matter if there's cover

Medic ironically is the least busted.

If zain wasn't a 3hk I wouldn't even hate him. Or if the ttk was so quick on that thing.

[tepid plinth]

Speaking generally about games there. But I do feel 2042 leans into this idea more. Wallhack abilities, auto turrets, maybe it’s just a byproduct of the near future setting feeling like it requires future tech and stuff

[feral garden]

TV missile for infantry, that recharges is the worst thing they added to the game TBH.

[minor linden]

I agree. I feel like it's done the opposite of what they wanted though. Imo getting a kill feels good because it feels like you earned it. Making kills happen more and more often just degrades how good each individual one feels

Like, I have a lot more fun going 12-8 in a game like insurgency than going 30-20 in a game like 2042 because each kill is hard fought

[covert nest]

Ammo crates would be how they would have fixed most of the things.

Bf5 styled

[feral garden]

I dont follow

[covert nest]

Uh basically get rid of recharge and make it so you can recover all through ammo crates on objective points.

[feral garden]

I think that would make it explotative, with how fast the global resupply timer is in 2042. Would work with the resupply gameplay loop from the next game tho.

[covert nest]

Uhh ehhhh I cant really speak about how negative it would be since bf5 had a similar system.

But of course this isnt bf5

And there would have to be individual tweaks.

[feral garden]

IMO, Lis should be able to take another launcher, but only have 1 charge at a time on the TGM

[tepid plinth]

Wish she never existed

Playing as a tank when she was in her prime was so damn miserable

[covert nest]

They should have made her gimmick to take a special ammo type.

[feral garden]

As much as I like playing Lis (she is the best engineer by far)...they should never have added her to the game

[covert nest]

No tv missile

Just

Fire. Or smoke. Or whatever

Hell maybe just make her a regular goddamn engie

[tepid plinth]

You couldn’t use the fundamental concept of managing line of sight when you have to assume they can curve downwards however they want

[feral garden]

Yeah, even in its nerfed state, its still super strong

[covert nest]

Anything would be better than a tv missile.

[feral garden]

Its really shitty for non experienced pilots.

[tepid plinth]

And when she had highlights through walls without even holding the rocket… you just couldn’t play the game almost

[mossy marten]

I've been saying for a while
Lis should've had the sraw as her specialist gadget

[tepid plinth]

Literally just need to make it a sraw and the problem’s solved

[feral garden]

I hate every single ability that has player or vehicle wall hack highlights. those can all go straight in the bin (In the new game too)

I REALLY, hate the threat detection perk on some vehicles...that wallhack spots you if you damage them. That can also go in the bin

[tepid plinth]

Playing Rao (or however has the you hit me I see you perk now), getting hit for 1 damage by someone a mile away and just sniping them out of existence because of it is incredibly unfair

I’ve had clipped moments where that ability lets you perfectly track someone through foliage when to them you are obscured

It’s just…

Not it

[feral garden]

Its not even fun after using it a few times.

You dont learn, and it makes a new player reliant on auto spotting to play

[tepid plinth]

My only potential reason for why such a thing might exist would be to help teach people the potential places someone could be on a map

But you have the death cam for that

[feral garden]

We have killcams for that 😛

Sorry yeah, death cam

I have started playing the finals more tho. Its ironic that a TV game show, set in a sci-fi future has less exploitative BS stuff than a "Modern Military" shooter like 2042. lol

[oak condor]

if the leaks are to be believed it's going to be even worse lol

[tepid plinth]

The worst thing I’ve seen from them is the top down tank mine, other than that I’ve not seen anything that would feel like any of the specialist gadgets in terms of cheese levels

[oak condor]

the whole recon tree is pure evil

[tepid plinth]

And I suppose the class perk things, but I’m withholding criticism until we get our hands on the final build of it

[oak condor]

6 months to flip the whole game on its head, can they do it?

[tepid plinth]

Day one patch will fix it in a week after launch don’t worry

[feral garden]

They seem to still be testing gunplay and servers, so my guess is those things are far from final (Since they seem to change dramatically from leak to leak)

[mossy marten]

6 months? People still think it's gonna be Fall 2025? I'm in the Feb/Mar 2026 release mindset

[oak condor]

they only said that bc it's the end of FY2025 and they absolutely can't go any farther than that

[feral garden]

I think they COULD release in October/November...but they probably shouldnt haha

[mossy marten]

I know they said it in the conference call
But i think it'll be early next year even if they didn't say it on the call

[feral garden]

Time will tell. Hopefully more get added as testers as they said is happening soon

[tepid plinth]

I am ever so curious how aircraft will work in this one

Given the pain that I need not mention again

[oak condor]

throwing testers at it isn't going to fix top-down dogshit game design

[tepid plinth]

I’ll never forget when they added the chase camera roll option and it didn’t even work properly

[oak condor]

someone on the dice team has to have a "come to jesus" moment

[tepid plinth]

In fact so many changes made to aircraft just didn’t work out of the box

[feral garden]

It will give them more feedback tho. and more vocal push back can absolutely bring change.

[covert nest]

Im not looking forward towards the ammo types but I'll have to use them to get a proper opinion on them.

[tepid plinth]

Who knows, we might all get invited when the next one comes

[covert nest]

Ya

I have a good bet a bunch of people I know will get into the OCE tests.

[mossy marten]

Yea
Those are quite sussy for sure

[tepid plinth]

Unless someone here is already in it

insert spy ‘it could be any one of us’ clip

[covert nest]

To be increased hs damage doesn't sound bad but more akin to the inconsistency of it.

[mossy marten]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-meme-point-pointing-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-spider-man-gif-11240997145323989541

[covert nest]

If there was more recoil associated with it then sure

Lots of attachments muddy the waters but I hope they can keep it relatively managed.

[mossy marten]

The points system is nice
They could nerf by just cranking the cost of stuff

[covert nest]

Oh yeah

Things will become more expensive and cheaper throughout the games life span for sure.

[mossy marten]

cough make the 2.1x HS ammo 40 pts cough

[covert nest]

Ap ammo that doesn't reduce your actual bullet damage

[tepid plinth]

I never thought I’d say this but I do honestly think I’ll miss 2042’s method of handling score, with the separate scoreboard columns and all

[covert nest]

God please

Im on my hands and knees

[tepid plinth]

But score itself being back will declutter it

[mossy marten]

Different points system
Attachments points system and not scoreboard points lol

[covert nest]

Actions contextualising the score is nice.

[tepid plinth]

Oh this is something new?

[feral garden]

I hate action based scoreboarding. It promotes shitty playstyles

[fleet robin]

FY2026

[minor linden]

It's basically Insurgency's point system but only applied to attachments

[tepid plinth]

Haven’t seen anything about customisation at all

[mossy marten]

This

[tepid plinth]

No images, vids, nothing

[minor linden]

Each attachment has a point value and you only get a certain amount of points to work with

[tepid plinth]

Okay

That’s new

Shall see how that plays out

[mossy marten]

And attachments within the same category cost different points as well

So big mag, more points
Smaller mag, less points

[minor linden]

I think it's really nice. It allows them to balance stuff easier since they can just make better attachments cost more

[tepid plinth]

But to be fair I just create an all round setup that compliments the weapon and leave it unchanged for literal years

[minor linden]

It also opens some interesting ideas like making thermals cost a ton of points so you can have the "op" scope but everything else is stock

[tepid plinth]

So in theory this approach could change that maybe?

[mossy marten]

Yeah
Won't be able to run the best attachments as it would go over budget

Gotta pick and choose what u want

[minor linden]

As long as they keep adding attachments, yeah.

When a new attachment gets released, instead of instantly adding it if it's better, people will have to decide if the point value is worth it

[tepid plinth]

Restricting the player? Not in my battlefield

[mossy marten]

Want more ammo and HSx? Give up muzzles, grips, etc

Essentially that's the way I hope it works

[tepid plinth]

Yeah so they could make it so some weapons could either be slow firerate and big mags or fast firerate with small mags as a means of balancing

[mossy marten]

Oh dear god i hope they don't add fire rate changing stuff

That stuff was pointless

[tepid plinth]

Hypothetically of course as an example

I don’t want firerate changing stuff either

[mossy marten]

And/or OP (bsv-m)

[tepid plinth]

I do wonder if the devs read this channel at all

[minor linden]

They probably do occasionally

[tepid plinth]

Since to me it seems odd to have all these labs channels to discuss the public announcements and not read any of it

[mossy marten]

I know one of the EA CMs reads it sometimes

[mossy marten]

Would be nice to have public announcements a bit more frequently to have more discussions that aren't from a floodgate breaking on reddit

[tepid plinth]

While I wouldn’t argue for more it does feel like the pace of their posts matches the intent of the tests

[mossy marten]

Oh and tiktok
SO many leaked footage on tiktok it's not even funny

[tepid plinth]

Like, given how much we’ve heard the tests change it feels like they are only posting things that are concrete

Which makes total sense

So the pacing is understandable

But of course bear in mind we weren’t meant to know about the contents of the tests anyways 😄

In another timeline we’d be none the wiser