battlefield-labs-discussion

[jaunty jetty]

I just wanna say that map style, I really like it

[weak obsidian]

I can't tell if BF Labs is doing this or not

it does look nice tho!

[runic crest]

I didn’t say that to hate on the game. I still play BF4 and BF1 as I’m writing this. I said it based on numbers and player engagement. Steam charts aren’t the full picture, but they can show the difference.

[woeful yacht]

what time is next test？

[potent pine]

in 2 weeks

[woeful yacht]

There is a strange thing. I submitted the battlefield labs application several times. Now the play test in program no longer has battlefield labs. Did I get banned?

Playtests In Progress，sorry

[covert nest]

Just an incredibly small chance to be selected.

[timid needle]

same mine doesnt show battlefield anymore

[potent pine]

what does this mean

[rotund pier]

I love the takedown animations

The fact you grab the dogtags again

👌

[calm zinc]

do you get an invitation via email or how it works for test labs?

[feral garden]

Yes, via email

[indigo pebble]

i know they pissed aboutt he leaks but tbf all the leaks have shown to me is this time dice has cooked

and the game looks amazing

[paper mortar]

@lyric thistle Will Next BF support 8000Hz mouse polling rates? That, and paid 120Hz servers as part of a premium edition (I understand those are very expensive servers), but doing it this way and having this would be epic.

[covert nest]

8000HZ polling rate wtf

That's completely unneccesary.

(Plus I would not advise pinging staff)

[paper mortar]

If you say that it is completely unnecessary, either you are a console user or you don't know what it is.

[rugged seal]

[covert nest]

Crazy assumption.

No. Most you need is a solid thousand.

[paper mortar]

Yes, the maximum you need is 120 Hz in the image... but when you go from 120 to 180 or 240 Hz, it is noticeable, you float on the screen, it glides smoothly as butter, well 8000 Hz is the same, the tracking is more precise.

[covert nest]

I'm not talking about server tick rate in this instance.

A thousand updates for your mouse is really all you need.

My bad I misread. Still.

[paper mortar]

I tried the 120hz servers in BF1 Incursions, and they were incredible, they were very smooth, precise, and eliminated a lot of the feeling of death after cover.

[covert nest]

120HZ would not be viable in a 64P match.

There's a reason why 5v5 had 120 HZ.

Which I think is pretty obvious in itself.

I have good bets the servers will be on 60 HZ for the next game which will already be amazing as is.

[paper mortar]

Every friend affects me, the better the quality of the server, everything inside also improves, I understand that these servers are very expensive for EA, but it would be nice to have a 120hz server for those who want a premium or special version.

[covert nest]

We are not getting 120HZ servers for larger player servers until the infrastructure of the servers improve dramatically and our own networks.

[paper mortar]

In BF4 there were servers of up to 144hz for conquest, and we're talking about that old era, now it could be done, in fact, Sirland tried to put them in BFV but EA didn't want to, now there's plenty of technology and it supports it perfectly.

[covert nest]

Awright, They're stupid expensive though. It's best to keep it consistent.

120 HZ all the time would be ideal.

I don't disagree but 60 HZ isn't even bad.

[paper mortar]

Who doesn't have fiber optics or good internet these days? The vast majority of players are prepared for this. At the server level, I'd buy your idea if it had 128 players, but 64 is viable these days, but it's more for financial reasons than for other reasons.

60hz seems like a good jump to me, but in the end, it's what we had in previous BFs, the jump that needs to be made is at least 90hz.

[covert nest]

I'm in Australia and our dumbass politicians half assed the job because fibre optics was too expensive for them, Countries without a properly develop infrastructure are rather behind.

Though that wasn't the focus. I was speaking generally.

[paper mortar]

The game needs four very basic yet important things:

• Server finder
• 90 or 120Hz tickrate servers
• Squad creation and management (being able to display your emblem and tag on your uniform, vehicle, and player profile)
• Spectator mode (being able to cast matches or tournaments, while also being able to investigate and monitor the use of cheats)

What ping do you have? I'm from Spain, and we have very good internet, but it also varies depending on where you want to play. The European servers are in Germany, an EA error. There should be another location in the EU to improve ping and saturation. The same thing happens on other continents.

[weak obsidian]

120Hz for a game on the scale of Battlefield sounds crazy

[covert nest]

Ping doesn't matter we're ripped off by Telstra as they have a monopoly on us.

30 MS to Sydney.

[weak obsidian]

I've been playing on Wifi for months 💀

[covert nest]

Should get one of those powerlines!

[weak obsidian]

the ping spikes are a test for my resolve

[cold belfry]

Ethernet all the way

[indigo pebble]

ethernet always best

2gig speeds baby

[zealous grotto]

i wish i had access to the labs.

[mossy marten]

You, me, and nearly a million other individuals

[rotund pier]

Que me quedo sin comer porque no hay luz 😭

[nimble bridge]

I heard BF games always had issues past 1000Hz anyways, I didn't noticed because I already use 1000Hz all the time tbh

[weak obsidian]

idk why you'd need such high polling rates anyways

[golden vortex]

It's like FPS, there are diminishing returns but more is always better

[nimble bridge]

I'm not even using an old mouse either I'm using Basilisk X Hyperspeed, it's pretty modern and doesn't support past 1000Hz lol

[feral garden]

Almost all pc games have issues past 1000hz. 8000hz mice are scams. Like buying an 8000hz monitor, but the fastest gpu can only give you 1000 fps.

[narrow basalt]

DICE give me access to labs, and my life is yours

[indigo pebble]

id give both me nuts my son is due in 3 weeks i gt 2 not im done with kids haha

[lyric dust]

Any idea where in Discord does DICE post the next play test notification time and date?

[nimble bridge]

🥶

[mossy marten]

not in this discord or at least it's a locked invite only channel in this discord
they won't say when tests are, but only post information regarding what the upcoming tests are about (once every month or so)

[lyric dust]

Okey doke, cheers for that. 🫡

[feral garden]

A suggestion for conquest ticket scoring for the next game.

For the last 50-100 tickets, make sector dominance or kills be the only things that reduces tickets.

Make it so capturing a sector and reducing opponents tickets by 5 on capture doesn't make a game end in a really anticlimactic way. (As is the case in 2042)

[hoary thorn]

I love to see leakers getting access while honest player with 1000+ hours on the franchise dont

[thick goblet]

Yep, played every BF game and yet the dude that can’t even aim properly gets in

I understand that they want a variety of people so they can get a variety of feedback, but it just seems to me like they made literally no research into whether some of these people actually played battlefield before. A lot of of these people just wanted “content” for their social media.

[verbal crypt]

Legit watched an 11 min video of a guy die 27 times and get 2 kills. Barely knew how to move and shoot, crouch walked the whole time. Same type of person who sees any type of movement or jump and cries that the game is “too fast”

[winter viper]

Idk I switched to a Darmoshark M2 Pro with 8k and noticed a HUGE difference

[nimble bridge]

He's just I M M E R S E D

[finite laurel]

I have +6000 hours in battlefield I deserve an access?

[glad trench]

You’re not special, stop playing victim

[glad trench]

You understand that you need new blood/players for the franchise to succeed. Relying on nothing but people who have played the series is just a self consuming snake

[viral scroll]

how hard to bring back the MEC faction?

[thick goblet]

If they listened to the community to begin with, they never would’ve gotten the failure that is battlefield 2042

[mossy marten]

honestly, the base MP would not be the first stop for them. most ultra casuals/"tourists" of IPs defer to the f2p portion of game, like fortnite and warzone
which is what will probably happen with the rumored third free 2 play mode being made by ripple effect

but like, at the same time, once a new shiny comes out, they all dip anyways

[thick goblet]

Ultimately, if the game doesn’t appeal to your community, the casuals aren’t gonna play it either. And the last game didn’t appeal to anyone.

[glad trench]

Cope harder, that’s not why 2042 failed

[glad trench]

I’d argue open betas etc can be counted as a f2p portion of the game. And have largely filled that role of free entry point into a series for the last ~10-15 years for a lot of games

Thinking back to the BF3 open beta, how many people you think got pulled into the series due to that. Especially among console players

[minor linden]

Yeah. Imo 2042 mainly failed because a lack of clear direction, a ton of launch bugs, and some other smaller missteps

[glad trench]

BF 6 is clearly looking like a continuation/iteration on BF V gameplay with a modern skin

The “community” who hated BF V:

Oh shit DICE is cooking with this, taking us back to BF3/4

[ebon beacon]

I just hope the takedowns are contextual and there's a different version for back, left, right, and again for crouched/prone players. I also hope you're able to just press melee and instantly kill prone players from any direction, like in 2042

I do NOT, however, wish for the front counter-takedown from BF4. that there was some b******t (censored to appease the automod!!)

[oak condor]

i think they give access to giga casuals intentionally, i remember being sent a hardline beta invite as a kid with like 100 hours of bf4 total

[glacial orchid]

I hope all the leakers get there toes stubbed at the metal part of their bed at night. Must be nice getting an invite while most true Battlefield players don't even get an invite to put in solid feedback 😒

[hoary thorn]

You are hallucinating, I give my feedback that’s all 😉

[feral garden]

4/5 out of thousands of people have leaked, this is a tad dramatic.

[glad trench]

“True battlefield players” 🤓

Everyone of you who play this card should be forced to post your stats

2.0 k/d min and top 10% SPM required

[cedar flax]

Hey everyone, what if they added the cast of Top Gear in the next battlefield game

[verbal crypt]

I’ve been thinking this as well. I’m in another discord with around 500 ppl in it and the folks that got invited are all dogshit at the game, massive 0.5 KD casuals

I feel like the survey we all took has a BIG BIG impact on decisions lol

It’s funny too cause I’ve legit been invited to EVERY single alpha I’ve ever applied to for other fps/competitive/multiplayer games

[glad trench]

Good thing this is a pre alpha

[oak condor]

realistically the game is coming out in like 6 months

[glad trench]

You’re delulu. Unless GTA 6 gets delayed to 2026, EA keeping this bun in the oven

[oak condor]

didn't it already get delayed once?

[glad trench]

It’s probably been internally delayed multiple times

And the pc version is 100% “delayed”/pushed back

[mossy marten]

Tbh, i doubt it, I'm guessing sometime spring 2026 to stay away from the extra big hitters in fall (BL4, GTA, Ghost of Yotei, etc)

[glad trench]

Marathon

[mossy marten]

That's the lowest on the list

Actually
Not even on the list

[verbal crypt]

Bungie will have to go to great lengths (pun intended) to make that game not die in 4-6 months on release

[feral garden]

*weeks

[untold compass]

So true

[feral garden]

Interviews with their devs dont make the game seem promising to me TBH, and im a player who is already on the fence with regard to a bungie made extraction shooter with that type of aesthetic and setting

[untold compass]

Yeah, I get that. If the devs can’t even sell the vision clearly, it’s hard to stay confident. Especially with Bungie trying something so out the blue. and the aesthetic definitely isn’t going to click with everyone.

[nimble bridge]

That’s why 2042 failed tbh There was a video of Shroud talking about how they didn't took any of their feedback despite EA paying them to playtest the game

[feral garden]

Its more so that they dont seem to understand wha makes extraction shooters enjoyable for the casual player. the game will die if it doesnt have a good gameplay loop for casual play

[untold compass]

That’s what most extraction shooter’s fail to do. Make it fun and enjoyable for a casual player

In my opinion

[feral garden]

Cos tarkov players for sure arent gonna jump ship for this game, so hardcore players will stay there, or in other future alternatives like breakpoint arena breakout/Delta Force

Its rare that I have no desire to play a bungie game TBH, I have over 2k hours in Destiny 1, 2 and most of their Halo games. But here we are.

[glad trench]

We don’t know what their feedback was and shroud has been stupidly wrong on what should be in fps’ for years

More than he is right

[nimble bridge]

He's still a good FPS players, he knows what he's talking about, even if he's not a BF player 🤷 Blame EA/DICE for inviting him instead of BF players

[feral garden]

That shroud video is also really ambiguous, cos he mainly says they asked for opinions on cosmetics. Which is a similar story to what other creators have said.

It didnt seem like they asked for direct feedback on certain parts of the game, just for general feedback (Most of which wouldnt have been able to be added to the game for a launch anyway)

[glad trench]

Good players doesn’t automatically equate to good feedback

Most pro athletes couldn’t describe why what they do is successful

[feral garden]

*Looks at shrouds actual game...which is terrible...and shutdown after 4 months

[nimble bridge]

[feral garden]

The irony of Marvel Rivals coming out at the same/similar time...and even Shroud played more of that than his own game. Hardly a striking endorsement for it hehe

Even though Shroud was apparently only a consultant...but many of his videos make it seem like there was more involvement (Maybe there was, but there was some drama about it a while back)

[tepid plinth]

Hammond would get his hovercraft stuck in a ditch, james would be flying a transport heli while jeremy operates the RPG out of the passenger seat

[clear kelp]

hey, so i registered for BF Labs day-1 when the queue was in thousands, though i waited my turn and registered, although now i see that some people received an email after signing up to the playtest, meanwhile i didnt receive anything after signing up

[mossy marten]

Yeah, its cause it's random
It's not guaranteed

[fleet robin]

it's like winning the lottery, don't be discouraged

[clear kelp]

no

i mean an email with a confirmation that i signed up for the playtest

not the one that i got in

[mossy marten]

Oh the registration confirmation? Yeah that shit bugged

[clear kelp]

yeah

oh

[oak condor]

keep gambling

[short storm]

When is the next play test wave?

[faint pivot]

Hella goofy like its apex legends or some call of duty

If that was the case no one would play 3 or 4 or bad company 2 lol recoil was crazy in that game

Gives it more of a intense and suspenseful and immersive gunfight no one wants laser beams

[faint night]

make it like old rust recoil

[oak condor]

what does that even mean?

[faint night]

You wouldve had to play rust before they changed it

Was much harder and more rewarding then they made it way too easy now its boring

[glad trench]

3 or 4 did not have crazy recoil. they had crazy spread and/or suppression

was stupid easy to keep the recoil centered

[ruby merlin]

Bf4:

Bf4 has the best gunplay imo

[balmy sphinx]

its kinda unreal that I've watched about 6 hours of leaked bf6 gameplay at this point and that shit still isn't open to the public

[ruby merlin]

Not too much recoil but there's spread which nerfs engagement distances even if your good at it

It was perfect tbh

[balmy sphinx]

i woulda kept my mouth shut too ab being in the playtest tbh

[ruby merlin]

Not hard to understand and learn

[ruby merlin]

Yeah they might as well drop the nda

[balmy sphinx]

like bro i kept the sign up queue thing open on my computer for so long to try and get in bc i love bf so much and i still haven't gotten an invite

smh

I imagine that they're gonna treat bf labs as a live service title when it goes to full public testing and keep it that way until release

sell people stuff, then when full release comes around "you have to actually buy the game now"

[rugged seal]

[ruby merlin]

It random selection

[rugged seal]

i love how people still think sign up order means anything when they said it has no impact on selection a day after sign-ups started

[weak obsidian]

they literally state in the sign up thing that it's random

mfs can't read!

[glad trench]

Who cares

[potent pine]

90% of people didnt even watch the video or read anything before signing up

they just want to be a part of something

[vagrant drum]

I applied a long time ago but still haven't received an invitation for trial testing(

Maybe someone knows if they are still recruiting?

[mossy marten]

It's random selection and random invite waves. Not guaranteed

[faint night]

And your odds go down as the amount of experience you said you have with fps games and games in general on the application increases

[rotund pier]

I know our feedback doesn't mean shit since we are not in the labs but

does anyone else feel like the soldier classes are too similar?

like there's barely anything differentiating them

plus, the support doesn't look very supporty

[weak obsidian]

probably because it's going to be like BFV where all the cosmetics will be shared between classes

[feral garden]

Not enough footage or info to know for sure. They have also not done any testing for things like this, so my guess would be the class soldiers/sillouettes are not final

[mossy marten]

imma just wait until we get more info or for an open test or beta (demo)

honestly, soldier models is the last thing that should be worried about at this moment

[weak obsidian]

also from what I've saw they're implementing the class webbing system that was cut from V

[mossy marten]

tf is class webbing

[weak obsidian]

all classes were supposed to get something on their model to distinguish them from other classes

I think medic was supposed to get crutches like in 1

[mossy marten]

ah

[tepid plinth]

As BSOD said I can’t possibly come to a conclusion without actually playing them, but I do still feel weapon restrictions would be worth having to alleviate this somewhat

[mossy marten]

if going off the current list of guns, i don't think that class restricted weapons are happening tbh

3 snipers only? wtf recon going to have locked as well? DMRs?

[tepid plinth]

I only need 2 snipers tbh

[rotund pier]

oh god please no

although

[feral garden]

Im not gonna judge anything off leaks from pre-alpha. will wait to see what they cook.

[rotund pier]

I mean

minus the gloves that changed from outdoor research gloves to just some oklays

[tepid plinth]

One think I can’t wait for is to have my tank turret instantly disabled by the top down engineer mine

That’s going to be just so fun

[feral garden]

Ok, that doesnt make me change how im gonna judge something tho

Im fine with vehicles disables, if it means they are allowed to make tanks OP as fuck

[mossy marten]

it would be funny if we can jump on top of a tank and play an anim that opens the hatch and uses your equipped HE/fire nade and toss it inside the tank

[feral garden]

Same deal with vehicle attrition via limited ammo supply. All good as long as the map design is good, and the ammo you do get is strong

[weak obsidian]

unironically would be cool

[feral garden]

Modern tanks dont open like this, so probs not gonna happen

[tepid plinth]

Wonder if they’ll bring back angular damage multipliers

[mossy marten]

i don't know the ins and outs of irl tanks lol
i just play game and shoot people/make vehicles go boom

but would still be funny to have as an option

[feral garden]

Toss a nade down the barrel 😛

[mossy marten]

lemme stick my recoilless barrel against the tank barrel and launch it inside

[weak obsidian]

the BF3 placeholder

[rotund pier]

nuh uh

outdoor research overlord gloves

never seen again until BF2042, Dozer wears them

[weak obsidian]

oh right mb

[still wren]

Most sane BF take ever. I love you! ❤️

[indigo pebble]

of what iv seen atm im already hooked i do enjoy 2042 but it could massivly be better still

[feral garden]

It just looks like the game that should have come after BFV. Back to modern, using all the learnings from previous modern and WW games to make the best possible experience.

[mossy marten]

we hope it's the best possible experience

[feral garden]

As opposed to 2042, which basically abandoned past game learnings (At launch), while chasing something no one especially wanted.

[mossy marten]

that's what happens when you try to create a game that appeases to the "tourists"

a game for everyone is a game for no one

[feral garden]

I was cautiously optimistic about the next game before labs and leaks, that has only improved since then

Still need to see more to be fully sold as to us "Being back"

[bleak frigate]

Forgive the wishful thinking but I’m throwing this one out: instead of a war zone copy cat, dice should set the trend and make a resurgence mode (i.e. eliminated by squad wipe) in middle of actual conquest matches. 4 squads two for each team that enter the field with different objectives. Completing missions (could be different for each squad) to creep closer to the main objective (common for all squads). The squads could be considered mercenaries and only one squad could complete the last objective. Last surviving squad gives you a win. Each mission could give the squads commander-like perks that help them in the next mission but also benefit their main team. The main mission could have a lasting effect on the conquest matches like reforming a flag in favour of the winning squads team.

If EA is insisting on wasting money on a battle royal. Might as well try something crazy that better fits the franchise

[feral garden]

As someone who only plays Conquest. This doesnt really sound logical to add, for how the flow of the conquest game mode is. Either that or its not all that well explained.

[calm seal]

I'm not sure I'd want it instead of conquest, but I did once play an airsoft game where there were so many people they made a 3rd team as a disruptor team that had it's own objectives. I could see battlefield making this sort of thing.

[versed token]

Sounds somewhat similar to a mode we've already had

[minor linden]

That kinda sounds like the gauntlet mode that was leaked

[tacit canyon]

Can u resign if u missed invation email?

[potent pine]

😭

youre probably already signed up so not really

[tacit canyon]

lmao alr

when u have email notis on and it dont work 🔥

[full lagoon]

They need to re-add Obliteration from BF4, that mode was so much fun

[potent pine]

thats why you gotta check daily like an obsessed freak

[full lagoon]

Also, make it so when you play RUSH when the round ends, the teams switch for the same map, I loved that in BF3, if you got steamrolled by attackers, you could try and beat them defending

[potent pine]

it was fun but it died

for some reason the last time i got into an obilteration match was on ps3..💀

[full lagoon]

Genuinely no point in checking everyday, they'll add you to a discord channel on here when you get selected, so you'll know you got it XD

[full lagoon]

BF4 on PS3 was just so painful

[potent pine]

how would they know your discord username?

[full lagoon]

Is the email you use for Discord the same as the one they have?

Also, Idk if they would, I just assumed

I've been playing this franchise since I was 12, I'm 37 now (38 this year) I'd love to help shape basically BF 3.2

[potent pine]

that means they would know the discord profiles email which is still 💔

[full lagoon]

but alas

I have yet to be picked

[potent pine]

wow you are old

[full lagoon]

LOL

Yeh, I have a 4.70 KDR and a WLR of 75% though 👌

[potent pine]

i wish i could experience bf2 back in the day but sadly im eastern european and young lel

[full lagoon]

Sandbox mod was so cool

it was like Gmod for BF2

Hosted by a group called "The Sir Community"

Should youtube search some of their old Machinimas

Pretty sure Sir Elxx works for DICE now

or did idk if he still does

He was a softly spoken quiet swedish guy who spoke very few words

[tacit canyon]

Obliteration fun pkayed it couple weeks ago

[full lagoon]

I've been considering playing BF3 on PC, because playing on PS3 would be painful, like 80FOV and dead servers

[tacit canyon]

Bf3 is shut down on ps3 n xbox 360

[mossy marten]

well 90fov is the max on BF3 PC

can't go above that

[full lagoon]

Unpopular opinion time; I actually unironically enjoy BF2042

[mossy marten]

[full lagoon]

I also like the specialists too >.>''

they add a nice variety

[mossy marten]

[full lagoon]

XD

[potent pine]

i mean its solid if you ignore every battlefield that exists ever

[tacit canyon]

Bf4 best game hands down

[full lagoon]

Everyone forgets how broken that game was at launch, literally bricking consoles and PCs with levelution, the netcode took 3 years to fix, and was only REALLY kinda fixed during the CTE years

That game was a mess at launch - But now its revered as one of the best

[mossy marten]

BF4 still has 15% no reg while playing

[full lagoon]

BF3 was THE best BF experience

[tall urchin]

Suppressor P2000 muting the entire server was gold

[full lagoon]

When it launched it literally changed the face of BF

LOL

[mossy marten]

people forgetting hardline existed and has overall the better amount of good maps and better gunplay than 4

[full lagoon]

I personally believe if they took what BF2042 is now, removed the specialists as a group, but left in the gadgets, and gave the game a gritty BF3 vibe, without the blue tint and God Rays of death, it would be GENUINELY the best experience.

I play BF3 portal modes, and with the 2042 movement mechanics its just peak battlefield

[tall urchin]

The ol strat of how to win Siege while losing just by triggering the levolution and watching most of the players crash. Good times.

[deft basalt]

I remember my ps3 kept freezing completely lol

[full lagoon]

Its why COD2019 was such a breath of fresh air, because it took the COD formula into more of a gritty game, and introduced limited advanced movement, but increased the skill ceiling exponetionally

[mossy marten]

mw2019 was good, but the sbmm and excessive RAA made it way less enjoyable

ground war was the only half decent mode in that game

[full lagoon]

If you play BF3 portal game modes with 2042 movement you will literally never unsee the glory of that game

Kinda worried about the mounting they're adding in BF6, hopefully the TTK stays similar to now, otherwise you wont be able to push properly

[mossy marten]

ttk will probably be in the 250ms-350ms depending on the gun and the range that gun is shot at

[tall urchin]

Take me back to S1-S5 days of Apex. No forced crossplay, no one knew how the RAA worked, legend design wasn't power creeped to insane degrees, cheating wasn't anywhere near the levels it is now.

[mossy marten]

long range will probably go to 500-750+ms

[full lagoon]

Like DICE if you read anything, please, COD2019, was a brilliant game, but power positions and mounting made it feel like COD Ghosts. If you give players mounting it might turn into some crazy bs*

Also, please make it so that the servers dont favour high pings for hit reg, like you do in 2042, the server tick rate is abominably slow on now, and if you get shot at by somebody who's ping is only 10tics higher than yours, you lose the gunfight.

Its genuinely painful being killed by a Delta 99+ Tick

Knowing, the server decided to let them win D:

[tall urchin]

That shit drives me nuts, people playing on the McD wifi having 50% chance to get bullets registered to them but they can kill you miles around cover in a single frame

[full lagoon]

Bro, dont get me started on diving behind cover only to be killed just as you round the bend

[inland glacier]

Hope sliding is pretty much like bfv

[full lagoon]

Its why the slide cancelling is so useful

Also dont add hitboxes tied to player movement like BF4, spamming crouch to mess up your hit boxes is low skill cheeze

if the dolphin diving is similar to BF2, everyone is cooked lol

that sh*t was awful

[granite carbon]

Please bring back naval combat

[full lagoon]

Ok navel combat was just Titan mode realistically

A game mode like Titan mode would be dope

Obviously couldnt really be titans, I guess

Maybe a map, thats like an island, with missle silos on it, and then two Aircraft carriers in the water surrounding it, you capture missle silos and then have to storm the carrier from the island.

🤔

Could even just be static bunkers too

[covert nest]

They just need to make a functional game and then we can see whatever experimental shit they have planned.

[full lagoon]

LOL

Preach

I think they wont mess it up

[mossy marten]

leaks may looks good, but keep expectations in check

[full lagoon]

BFV was a let down, BF2042 released poorly, its genuinely amazing now

[covert nest]

I don't have doubt in their abilities. The community always complains about shit so it's difficult to get a bead on what needs actual improvement.

[full lagoon]

BF1 was amazing, aside from the final year TTK rebalance out of nowhere

bye bye muscle memory

[covert nest]

Bf5 for all its issues made me take the games more seriously and improve.

[full lagoon]

BF Hardline was a nice change from the usual, but it wasnt my kinda schtick

BF4 was a LITERAL mess for 3 years, with constant weapon balancing and TTK changes until the CTE literally saved it

BF3 was just so much fun, the netcode was awful, but the gunplay was top tier,

BF2142 was janky af but genuinely innovative and fun

BF2 was so much fun, and the mods made it amazing

BFVietnam was just as nuts as Bad Company (there was a seat on a Huey that was placed on top of the rotors and you could blast fortunate son out of the speakers whilst flying around)

BF1942 was the birthplace of this franchise, but its super dated now, the planes were peak dogfighting

😄

IM OLD DICE

[obtuse idol]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/909508309269221466
PC - EU
Any game mode

[granite carbon]

Naval combat like bf1's heligoland. Bf4's paracel storm

Add a lot of naval vehicles, like cruisers, boats

How about an aircraft carrier

[versed token]

That ain't happening

[granite carbon]

Bf1942 did it

Bf5 had the aircraft carrier but you couldn't move it

[glad trench]

Player behavior and expectations is far different than what it was back in 2004

Dice isn’t going to let 4-6 per team players fuck off running a cruiser/destroyer/submarine while everyone else is on land

Now, I want more maps where you start on the ship and make your way over in an APC/RHIB etc and have to fight from the beach front.

But controllable ships, nah

[mossy marten]

yeah, naval combat would be pretty tricky to keep balanced, because if a ship gets damaged, they can f off out to sea and the only that can consistently hit them would be a jet

[cedar flax]

Hey everyone, what if they added a Denny's at every objective in conquest for the next battlefield game

[digital niche]

I want The American Dream to make a stupid cameo somewhere.

DICE needs to make cameos again.

[glad trench]

Fuck that, Waffle House

[digital niche]

Not until Harada and Namco brings it to Tekken first

Battlefield should get in line for that

[visual meadow]

how do i play it on ps5?

[mossy marten]

well if you got the invite via email, there should be information there or somewhere it links you to do it
If you did not get an email invite, you gotta wait

[visual meadow]

ahh okay

[visual meadow]

how long on average does it take to get in the labs?

[feral garden]

Any range from 2 weeks to never

[rotund pier]

The less interested you are in getting in, or the more you hate BF, the more likely it is you’ll get invited

[feral garden]

Its like a watched kettle 😛

[rotund pier]

It really does feel like they are inviting anyone but anyone who’s played any previous bf

[feral garden]

Plenty of "veterans" and good players are getting invited. they just arent talking about it.

[visual meadow]

if you are talking about me you're wrong

[rotund pier]

No

Because you aren’t invited

yet

[tepid plinth]

I hereby officially state that I no longer desire to play battlefield

It didn’t work

[minor linden]

Survivor's bias

We only see bad people playing because anybody good at the game wouldn't want to risk being banned from all future testing

[stray veldt]

also, shows that they invited alot of people who don't care about being banned at all

which is a shame

i dont think those people care what the game turns out like either

[minor linden]

I feel like their lack of pushback on the initial leaks caused the mass leakage with the latest test.

Nobody's getting in any legal trouble so there isn't any actual consequences to leaking

[stray veldt]

there's too much leaks to do any legal stuff now anyways, all they can do is ban them really

[minor linden]

Fair. It's kinda too late to do anything besides for banning everyone that leaked

[glad trench]

It’s a handful of people… y’all are acting like 90% of the labs are thumbless BF haters that are leaking

[stray veldt]

it's not a handful of people tho lol

[minor linden]

Fr. Even if 100 people leaked, that's only .01% of testers (I'm assuming around 10k people got invited)

[stray veldt]

they dont share how many testers there are so who knows, but despite people's footage being taken down, two new pop up, its like a hydra

im not sure they can stop it at this point, but oh well, i dont think the game release will perform worse beause of this anyway

[fleet robin]

it's likely still at 4 digits

they said they'd start with thousands and later on tens of thousands

[minor linden]

Even if it's only a few thousand, that's still less than .1%

[fleet robin]

i know, just a small correction

[digital niche]

You know I'm kind of hoping that they bring back rotating weather conditions like in BF1.

It's nice having the fog of war to encourage snipers to change up their play style.

Not some dinky tornado that we have in 2042.

[rugged seal]

Hourglass has the sandstorm and manifest has rain

[digital niche]

Sandstorm is fine

Rain is whatever

Fog is where it's at

Earthquakes that change up the map would be an interesting idea though.

Dunno how feasible it is on a coding scale.

[manic gate]

yeah I'd imagine that would a nightmare to even conceptualise even in the absolute perfect scenario where everyone has the exact same extremely high end hardware

[digital niche]

Would probably be hell on graphics cards, even for high end, I'd imagine

[feral garden]

Orbital also has rain, hail and thunderstorms.

[digital niche]

Duke Nukem 3D was a first foray into it, which is what made me think of it in the first place

[solar quarry]

I don't think it would be very dynamic which is what we want

If it was basically just causing one major structure to collapse then it wouldn't be very different from Shanghai in bf4 I would think

[digital niche]

i remember there was a YouTube 2042 shorts meme where the quad bike scene was a parody of the Shanghai building collapse and everyone said "gg map is ruined" and left

but yeah i think earthquakes is a bit too difficult to put into a battlefield game ill be honest, but it's a nice idea to look into. destructible buildings is still great tho.

[tiny ember]

Will there be sixth-generation aircraft in Battlefield 6? just like j36 j50 f47 etc

Just like in Battlefield 4, the J-20 was already in action in the game even before it entered service.

[weak obsidian]

no

[tiny ember]

It can definitely be added to enhance the gameplay and fun

[faint pivot]

3 and 4 had good recoil that you can learn to control, bad company 2 recoil was crazy yes

[dry grotto]

Can we have loadout presets?

[indigo pebble]

Hoping bf6 aculy comes out with ea laying off tons of people and canceling games

[feral garden]

More people got added to the BF team from this occurrence. So I wouldnt worry about the next game

[paper mortar]

THE GREAT IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THESE 2 FUNCTIONS IN BF6
PLATOON CREATION and MANAGEMENT (being able to create and display our emblems or logos, as well as an identification tag on the soldier's uniform, weapon, vehicle, and player profile, as well as the community's nationality flag)
Reasons:
Special bonds are created with the members of your community.
Fighting and representing your community gives you extra motivation in every match.
You give the opportunity to make your community known to other players, attracting future new members by seeing the flag of the country where they are from.
Competitions are created between communities, giving you the opportunity to create matches or tournaments in any game mode.

SPECTATOR MODE:
Vital to better combat cheaters and at the same time be able to broadcast team matches or tournaments, cast with narrators, or simply want to learn from player X by watching them play. With an option to take photos and create albums or game reports, epic series.

If EA or DICE wonders how Delta Force keeps its players and has reached such high peaks, it's because of things like this, having spectator mode gives a lot of life to the game for a long time, and at the same time attracts more players and keeps them in, if BF6 adds these 2 functions, it will be unbeatable, but it also depends on us to demand it from the developers to have it, and not just a few demanding it.

[tepid plinth]

I would love nothing more than a photo mode of sorts

which spectator / replay would fulfil

so I concur

[static canopy]

So the server browser for the main game is still not confirmed?

[paper mortar]

There's nothing official, I hope we have it, it would be a big leap for BF6, they're taking the best from other BF, they should also take this.

[nimble bridge]

3 too much

Remove snipers, remove shotguns, recon should carry DMRs

[nimble bridge]

Increased skill floor not ceiling

Fast TTK, insane footstep sounds, SBMM, RAA. Literally made for lowest skilled players. Too many annoying gadgets too.

Jetpack CoDs had higher skill ceiling due to movement imo

[rotund pier]

Overpowered autoaim

[minor linden]

99% of what we know isn’t confirmed. It’s all just leaks that could change with every playtest

[nimble bridge]

I want persistent servers with map rotation even if there is no server browser

I don't want to be sent back to main menu only to find a match on the same map over and over again

[potent pine]

everybody wants this dude, theres a reason they dont want to "add" such a thing

[nimble bridge]

There are persistent servers in 2042 even without server browser, FNB playlist is persistent for example

That should be the default

[feral garden]

TDM used to work on persistent servers also. Modes like those, including FNB modes are all built using portal.

IMO, the reason more modes dont swap to being built on portal and use persistent servers. Is a bug in the game that stops player from being able to join, replacing AI.

In FNB modes, it always happens that one team will end up full of mostly AI. Seemingly because players are no longer able to join that server to replace them.

[nimble bridge]

Solution: Remove AI 🤷

Keep them to portal

DICE should bring back BF3 gazelle jumping imo

[feral garden]

The only way to have server persistence in 2042 is to have the mode be built in portal

I don't even know of AI are the issue, or the servers themselves.

[nimble bridge]

For 2042 yes, but BF6 is still pre alpha, it can be done imo

[feral garden]

The above is just a guess. Maybe the actual issue is the servers, even persistent ones become unjoinable eventually

Next game for sure needs persistent servers. 2042 without them is such a shitty experience. And matchmaking directly after a round ends is not a good enough solution.

[nimble bridge]

👆

[tall urchin]

Proper replay systems would help the game out so much with content creation, cheat detection, and tournament play.

It's insane to me that isn't a guaranteed inclusion to every FPS

[feral garden]

Probably because esports isnt as big as people think it is.

Replay systems are completely unnecessary for a BF game IMO. IF we got replays at the cost of some other part of a game, I would be pissed

[mossy marten]

Why would a replay system be unnecessary? Content creation and getting POVs and having camera pans/other replay related stuff for CC and the like would make it easier and give more options for creative freedom?
Instead of having to go into a portal/empty lobby that's running the map you got a clip on and having to recreate certain scenarios

[feral garden]

Just add a spectator mode. Replay system is totally not needed for such things

I dont even know if Frostbite supports such things, but I can imagine it would require a heavy investment to support, for something not a lot of people ask for/want

IIRC, it took unreal over 5 years to build engine support for it

Im not against replay systems either, peopel just need to be realistic with asking for stuff for the next game

[mossy marten]

Frostbite engine possibly has one anyway, at least for UFC5 with dynamic KO replay
So there is some sort of a replay system, and since they've been using frostbite since bc1, they've probably done some sort of work on it
How else would they get some trailer footage that isn't pre animated

[feral garden]

They have replays even in online?

Id also guess that 1v1 fighting game replays with no dynamic destruction/game/map states is significantly easier to do that a 64p game

[mossy marten]

True
But there is something to build off on if they ever decide to it
And having it be an option would be really cool
I mean, they have a whole team dedicated to just working on frostbite 🤷‍♂️

16 years on frostbite, they have to have some bones there

[feral garden]

Would be more useful for a game life EA Football, but I dont see people asking for this feature all that much these days. It probs not a priority

[mossy marten]

which is sad tbh
it's a great feature to have creators and non creators alike

[feral garden]

Noone I watch for PUBG really uses replays at all TBH. Maybe others do tho

[nimble bridge]

Tech isn't there yet~~(ignore BF2 having replay systems~~) 😛

[mossy marten]

BF2 was on the refractor engine i'm pretty sure

[nimble bridge]

BFV had some sort of replay system too if I remember correctly

[mossy marten]

it did not
GeForce experience had the "auto-clip" feature that can be used to auto clip certain things that occur in game, but no actual replay system afaik

[feral garden]

That was a system built off the nvidia SDK

and yeah, it was just for capturing video footage of killstreaks, ETC. I dont think I ever used it

[mossy marten]

but either way:
DICE (if you do read these posts in this channel lol)
A replay system would be cool in the future

[versed token]

I mean cod has it's own killcam system and halo has it's theater mode

[feral garden]

I can only imagine the outrage in the BF community if they added kilcams here. 😁

[mossy marten]

you mean hiding snipers/corner campers would outrage

[half halo]

Especially is crossplay console x PC is still in

[viscid citrus]

Does the heli still feel like its on rails?

[ruby hazel]

No, keep the old system, I don't wanna see what the other player did to eliminate me, I really don't care, skip and play

[cedar flax]

Hey everyone, what if they added Walter White and Jesse Pinkman as cameos for the next Battlefield game

[tepid plinth]

I wouldn’t say so

But also never felt that was the case before either

If anything the attack heli feels more like it is

[paper mortar]

The 22-minute gameplay in 1080p has been leaked again on CAPSTONE, and looking at it, Sector B is very simple. There should be more houses to have more infantry options, but I would say in all the flags, with this level of destruction, it becomes more necessary to have more houses and thus have more combat zones.

[half halo]

We cannot discuss leaks here

[rugged seal]

• Leaks - The sharing and discussion of leaked information will be closely monitored. There is to be no discussion of leaks that are circulating in small groups, feel like hearsay, and/or don't match known information around the product as well as no downloading/direct re-sharing of game footage that has been leaked elsewhere. Players can however discuss leaks that are seen as widely available or have been covered by mainstream media sources, but this is entirely at the moderator/staff team’s discretion.

[feral garden]

Capstone leaks are not widely available, nor covered by mass media...and are being removed as soon as they appear on video and social platforms. Those are clearly not allowed to be discussed

[covert nest]

They should filter out the maps of the game.

Word filter

You know

But then that'd screw that up LOL

[vale burrow]

there is a difference in allowed to be discussed and quite literally everyone knowing about it

[feral garden]

Yeah, seems like a bad idea. People shuld just use common sense.

[covert nest]

I dunno. The community is annoying.

[feral garden]

They give an inch, community takes a mile

[covert nest]

There's also the matter of spoiling it for everyone else but that it's own thing.

[vale burrow]

sure they DMCA the footage but most people seen some form of clips from it and or saved the gameplay to a google drive

[covert nest]

They still can still limit how far it spreads.

[vale burrow]

yea it kinda ruins the actual reveal

ofc

[feral garden]

Yeah, im actually sick of the amount of leaks now TBH. I dont even go on the sub anymore for risk of having other major surprised ruined.

[covert nest]

It was fun at first but now it's like can you guys get the hint.

[feral garden]

Its mostly the data miners that are ruining it tho.

[covert nest]

I got to see things I wanted (like the guns) and that's it.

[vale burrow]

EA had to know this would be a issue right?

like they surely figured as much

[covert nest]

It would be nice if they encrypted the files.

And disabled shadowplay.

They could have heavily limited the spread of information.

[vale burrow]

doesn't matter on EA games, datamining will happen no matter what you do

[covert nest]

Keep in mind I know that external recorders and shit exist too

[vale burrow]

if they have the game files through a friend or whatever then its pointless

[covert nest]

But stil it would heavily limit the spread.

[feral garden]

Players would just capture with external capture card. None of this is an efective fix for leaks

[covert nest]

I will reiterate again and again it would at least heavily limit it instead of there being leaker number 80 or some shit.

Cause then they could focus on that leak and deal with it.

I think they gave up because they realised the positive word but kinda gave up because I don't kow.

[vale burrow]

i mean most sensible players that actually want the game to be good and provide feedback wouldnt be the leaker

[covert nest]

The first guy that leaked it was so bad.

[vale burrow]

its always the people that are playing the game with their toes that end up leaking it

[rugged seal]

Fr these leakers gotta stop

[covert nest]

I hate the word toes.

[vale burrow]

sounds so off i know

[covert nest]

The internet has ruined it.

And it makes me so mad.

[feral garden]

Nothing would really solve it. I just wish data miners would stop scraping the barrel for random stuff in files, and trying to cause outrage in the community for reactions.

AKA, the multiple posts they spawned regarding Specialists returning (they arent), there being SBMM (There isnt heavy SBMM) and there being no Server Browser (We have literally no news on this)

[vale burrow]

glad ea responded really quick on that "sbmm" thing

[rotund pier]

I wish data miners would find the mention of class restricted weaponry 🗣️

[covert nest]

Did they officially?

[feral garden]

No

A post in a private discord is not an official statement

[covert nest]

I mean I know that

[feral garden]

But of course that leaked too (As they probably expected it to)

[covert nest]

Didn't even need to make a twitter post

[vale burrow]

? it got responded to by dice on reddit

[feral garden]

Show me

[vale burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1jwo1s3/comment/mmkie21/

look at the main comment

[feral garden]

Totals comment doesnt reference SBMM

And the main comment is a leaked message from a private discord, as I already said

[covert nest]

God reading those comments just by instinct makes go to the mechwarrior subs and see idiots make silly looking mechs.

(It's much nicer over there)

But actually engaging with that it's crazy the narrative people took.

It did something though, Or that people are normally forgetful. Because I don't see anyone talking about the sbmm argument anymore.

[feral garden]

Yeah, its the main thing that will stop people even being interested in the next game

[mossy marten]

Yeah, it mostly stopped sbmm discussions cause of that leaked post by Sirland

But on the other hand, those "fan made" trailers are quite cringe

[covert nest]

Lemme guess. AI.

[mossy marten]

No, just using the really meh gameplay from leaks and it makes it look quite...... Bad

[covert nest]

LMAO

[nimble bridge]

I pretty much know everything from the datamined stuff so there is no surprise left for me. I don't know how maps or game plays out though, you can't really get a feeling without playing the game itself.

I must say atmosphere is on point, third map reminds me of Alborz Mt. or Damavand Peak in terms of atmosphere. First map and second map's layout looks similar to BFV's Devastation or Marita, which I really like.

[mossy marten]

Xbox confirmed $80 games starting later this year

[nimble bridge]

Let's hope EA capitalizes on that with $70 price tag

[feral garden]

and Series X price increasing to $600, Series S price increased to $429. OOF

[tepid plinth]

Won’t lie I’ve not looked at a single text based leak, I don’t trust em

[verbal crypt]

Even more reason why I mostly been playing indie games and snagging games from ggdeals lol

[tepid plinth]

I seriously can’t wait to finish uni and be able to play games properly again

[mossy marten]

and then work decides to kick your ass

[nimble bridge]

Opposite case for me, the moment I finish uni I will be forced to work so I won't have any time to play anything 😭

[tall urchin]

Well, working is more enjoyable and more rewarding than modern FPS anyways

[verbal crypt]

Ain’t that crazy lmao

[cedar flax]

Hey everyone, what if they added Dr. House into the next Battlefield game

[golden vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[tall urchin]

I booted up Marvel Rivals, watched some guy completely miss me and get a hit marker, then go past me and even when I wasn't on the screen still got another hit marker. Games just lie to people to make them feel better about their inadequacy lol.

[verbal crypt]

Played that game for about 2 weeks and realized there’s a ton of cheese and nonsense in it lol. Controller hitbox isn’t even close to accurate

[tall urchin]

It's wild how they can have someone like Punisher who needs insane mechanical skill to be even remotely impactful and lands on B tier

And then you get supports who tank, outheal DPS, do better DPS, and have escape mechanisms with no mechanical skill requirements

And they're S tier

[nimble bridge]

That's why hero shooters are popular and why I dislike them, too much cheese

You don't need mechanical skills to compete as long as you have game knowledge with specific characters

[verbal crypt]

I’m tired of hero shooters fr lol

[tall urchin]

OW is pretty insufferable at times but even that game feels way less cheesy than Rivals

[glad trench]

I mean also the power fantasy of playing as a specific character

[tall urchin]

Still has the issue of placing way too much importance on a single role and if that player is deficient you pretty much autolose

[glad trench]

And mixing ability usage within a shooter

[tall urchin]

Abilities aren't inherently a bad idea as long as it's utility based. Early Apex felt great because it was basically bubbles, grapples, ziplines, phases, and portals so just a lot of movement to help teams rotate.

But the problem is they just make abilities that now do everything while having no real finesse required, just immediate value for pushing a button.

[verbal crypt]

DOPAMINE HIT DOPAMINE HIT DOPAMINE HIT DOPAMINE HIT

that’s all shit is anymore lmao

[tall urchin]

Also what the fuck is with every shooter adding wallhacks as an ability

[verbal crypt]

95% of the player base of all shooters have casuals that legit have 0 situation awareness/game sense. Its a crutch that every game seems to add so that the shitters can have something to give them that dopamine they can only get with cheese lol

Once I see a game has that ability I’m immediately out

[tall urchin]

Sounds like you don't play many FPS these days

[verbal crypt]

I don’t lol. Only fps I play maybe once a week at this point is 2042 and I usually alt-f4 after I go 70-8 with 15 caps and my team loses by 400 cause they are all 3D spotting recons 500 m away from anything 😭😭

[tall urchin]

Felt

[verbal crypt]

But don’t worry Squid G promises the game is fantastic because you can fly, c5 a tank and watch your epic explosion

[tall urchin]

Crazy people have made careers out of farming the bottiest of bots on the outskirts of the map

But also scream tryhard if they get shot

[feral garden]

How dare they do something and try to have fun TBH. Probs better off to sit in discord and complain all day

Also the irony of the above statement on players with lower skill, when thast the reaon lots fo us like BF. No SBMM, random players in all lobbies

[verbal crypt]

He can have fun how he wants but that’s his only argument for why he thinks the game is fantastic lol.

He is 100% a shill since he’s been given dedicated game modes named after him and is one of their top creator program dudes.

[tall urchin]

Not to mention those types will call legitimate criticisms to be ignored and just hate, toxic positivity kind of shit

[ebon beacon]

Nintendo saves the industry yet again!

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-deadpool-deadpool3-ryan-reynolds-mcu-gif-11540745881539437840

[mossy marten]

[manic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[faint pivot]

Hopefully they read these comments,

Gameplay is drastically improved since the first playtest but still lots of work to be done,

• vehicles need a more realistic touch to firing their canons like some blow back action or the enviorment of dust and particles flying from the blast of an Abrams and more suspension and movement, not so stiff
  -the down animations need to go i miss seeing soldiers fly from explosions or drop realistically from being shot
  -remove grenade wind trails
  -remove the point counter for hitmakers within the sight it breaks immersion and gets in the way and looks arcadish like apex legends
  -gunplay is still too similar to 2042, too fast of reloading and aiming down sights
• tweak the recoil and suppression to how 3/4 is
  -remove the see through wall players it is annoying as hell to see my teammates outlined through walls, all they need is a name above their head that fades the further or closer they get
  -make corner or object mounting less accurate than using a bipod

other than that sound design is beautiful, graphics look great and gameplay is alot more gritty and violent looking but still needs tweaking.

[versed token]

They don't read these comments

[feral garden]

They do, but 90% of these things are subjective, cant actually know if they are needed, or just terrible ideas

the down animations need to go i miss seeing soldiers fly from explosions or drop realistically from being shot
Soldiers already ragdoll, then enter a downed state. This is irrelevant

remove grenade wind trails
Its good IMO, helps the thrower see where their nade went

remove the point counter for hitmakers within the sight it breaks immersion and gets in the way and looks arcadish like apex legends
As with 2042, this will 100% be toggleable

gunplay is still too similar to 2042, too fast of reloading and aiming down sights
Gunplay looks nothing like 2042. We also havent seen enough to know...and you cant judge gunplay by watching a video

make corner or object mounting less accurate than using a bipod
There is no way to know how accurate or inaccurate this is without playing the game. Doesnt look to be any more accurate than standing. Seems to be just a corner peek

tweak the recoil and suppression to how 3/4 is
What does this even mean? Blanket statements on recoil and suppression are the least useful thing ever

[tepid plinth]

Average BSOD w

It’s funny to me how I’ve now heard 3 people dislike wind trails when I’ve heard nobody else say they dislike them since bf4 introduced them

[bitter tinsel]

What else do I have to do to take part in the playtest? I registered and haven't received an email or anything similar yet.

[feral garden]

There is nothing more you can do.

99% of people who signed up also havent been chosen.

[bitter tinsel]

Okay thanks for the info but real talk I won't buy the new BF until I've done it myself, BF2042 was such a bad buy and I'm careful now. I just hope that the playtest will help me to get a great BF again.

[feral garden]

2042 is ok now, better than launch. But yeah, it was a bad time at launch and the year or so after (At least as a solo player)

[bitter tinsel]

Yes, I believe you, but we all want the atmosphere and gameplay of the good BF3/4

well, two months before release I'll definitely get another chance to play the beta, as long as it's not behind a paywall again.

[rotund pier]

still feel this game is closer to 2042 than an actual bf game

[rugged seal]

[rotund pier]

A class system without class restricted weapons isn’t a class system at all

This is closer to a hero shooter than anything

You are using the same gun and changing your gadgets, so are you actually changing classes or just changing your character

[covert nest]

Everytime someone unironically talks about something that's immersion breaking I just render their argument moot.

Like dude wtf are you talking about lol

[feral garden]

Show me any hero shooter that works like this. Ill wait.

People be saying things just to say things. I swear

[rotund pier]

Literally any?

[feral garden]

If anything, hero shooters are more restrictive in how weapons are set. Each hero has a set weapon and set of abilities. None of the above makes any sense

Its fine to say you want class restricted weapons, without having to throw in nonsense statements on how not having that makes a game feel

[rotund pier]

Apex, though that’s a BR so
Valorant, though that’s round based

It’s just hard for me to explain what I mean

But what’s the point of having classes if every single one uses the same weapons

Why not just have the gadgets free for everyone too then

[feral garden]

Your conflating classes having a class gadget they always have, and weapons currently not being class locked/restricted...with the game being a hero shooter.

[rotund pier]

Because the weapon pool being free for everyone makes it feel that way

[feral garden]

Its really doesnt

[rotund pier]

Do you feel BF2042 has classes?

[feral garden]

Yes, as the gadgets are class locked, each class plays best when you play to their strengths

It was not on launch

[rotund pier]

Yeah I barely feel a difference between what we had and we have now

[feral garden]

and it equally plays more like a hero shooter, as each specialist has a unique gadget

[rotund pier]

This aint classes I’m just changing what hero with which abilities I’m playing

[covert nest]

I can understand the angle that theyh too kwith specialists but good god is it imbalanced.

[rotund pier]

This is like class lite

[feral garden]

the only difference between a past game, and the next game...is non class locked weapons. which apparently makes it a hero shooter in your eyes

[rotund pier]

It does yes

[feral garden]

which is ridiculous to say

[covert nest]

The idea I understand with specialists is that for all intents and purposes they're... specialised subclasses.

Like how Archetypes were meant to work in bf5.

How your weapon and gadget choice was dictated under that sub class.

[feral garden]

I guess any game can be defined as hero shooter under these criteria. CS is a hero shooter, Halo Reach is a hero shooter, Titanfall is a hero shooter

I too would prefer class restricted weapons, but its a hell of a reach to call something a hero shooter for lacking that

[rotund pier]

No because cs has no skills locked to characters

Titanfall I think so I don’t remember

And halo I barely played

[feral garden]

BF4 is a hero shooter, with some weapons restricted to classes!

Youre just building a hero, not building a class.

[rotund pier]

I’ll just reword it a bit

I guess bf4 is more like

Overwatch

And 2042 and 6 are more like

Apex

Or valorant

[feral garden]

4 like overwatch?

Wot haha

[rotund pier]

Cuz every class has a weapon category

And in overwatch every hero has their own weapon

[feral garden]

Overwatch doesnt have weapon selection tho

It is a hero shooter

[rotund pier]

I know

But i can’t think of any other game like old bfs and their class restricted weapons

[weak obsidian]

automatic weapons are all the same anyways

[versed token]

2042 would be more similar to overwatch since each character has a unique ability

[rotund pier]

it'd be more like apex

cuz they have no special weapon

[weak obsidian]

it's like titanfall 😛

[rotund pier]

I remember titanball having abilities but I thought you could choose them and the characters were just cosmetics

I don't remember unfortunately, too long since I played it 😔

[versed token]

More similar than bf4 though

calling bf4 similar to overwatch is wild

[tepid plinth]

bf4 is a hero shooter obviously

[rotund pier]

comparisons are hard ok 😭

[feral garden]

What do ye think of the whole...each class has a set "Class Gadget" thing.

On one had its more ability per class, but on the other it is less choice in how youre "expected" to fullfil your role on the battlefield

[tepid plinth]

honestly at this point I feel like most people just call something a hero shooter if it's characters feel like they'd fit a 'hero' roster

[weak obsidian]

I think it's fine

Assaults running with no defib or meds was like eh in BF3 and 4

[tepid plinth]

Oh I like it. Knowing that an engineer will always have a repair kit is a joy, same for medics. One less random factor to consider

[rotund pier]

look, what is valorant

what category of game is that

is that a hero shooter?

[weak obsidian]

CSGO clone

[rotund pier]

yeah but that's besides the point

[tepid plinth]

Gives you room to use other gadgets too, sure it implies a certain playstyle but you've got 2 free gadget slots to play your way

[feral garden]

Yes, it has heros (Agents) so it is a hero shooter

[rotund pier]

ANYWAYS
I just feel that without class restricted weapons, you aren't changing a class since your weapon transfer over to the next one, but instead you are just changing your character that comes with new abilities

so are you changing class or are you just changing your character

[feral garden]

You are changing class

[rotund pier]

[weak obsidian]

I still think the gadgets are more important lol

[rotund pier]

it is but I just feel it's class LITE

[feral garden]

I dont really get why this is confusing. If I want to resupply and heal/revive, I play support, If I want to kill and repair vehicles I swap to engineer.

[weak obsidian]

facts

like universal weapon classes already muddy the waters already

atp I don

really care

[covert nest]

I think universal SMG's are good enough because they're pretty range limited.

but they give the classes the utility they need to do their job.

But the kind of automatic weapons that you want to rely on should stay in a certain class. I'm not in support or against in the argument of 2042's class system because I think there are worse issues than every class having every gun.

I feel like people focus on labelling it than actually engaging with the problems.

Like there's an actual conversation.

[feral garden]

You obviously need to do something to make non aggressive classes more viable in a game like this. If it were up to me, id give assault and recon ARs. Give engineers and support Carbines and LMGs, then give everyone DMRs, SMGs and Shotguns. While at the same time making Sniper Rifles recon exclusive

[weak obsidian]

yeah snipers are the only category I'd restrict because they encourage more passive playstyles

[feral garden]

At the same time, lots like to pay recon as an infiltrator type class

Thats why id give them ARs

[weak obsidian]

yeah that'd be cool

[feral garden]

AKA, recons who get up close and dangerous, moving behind enemy lines, placing spotting tech, spawn beacons, ETC.

I feel like IF there are not a lot of sniper rifles in the game (At launch) something like this would offer a good way to restrict weapons to classes, but still allow diverse playstyles.

[covert nest]

I think BF5 did a decent enough job for keeping the class relatively monotone.

The more abnormal wepaons had hard limitations.

Fg42 and BAR despite having the same killing potential as some of the assault rifles had lower mags to compensate making sure support could go sicko mode.

Bren and lewis gun were amazing ranged weapons for the class style despite their gimped firerates you could out accuracy most assault rifles.

[feral garden]

The last thing I want is a game like Delta Force, where they (seemingly) arbitrarily allow one class, hero or other use X weapon, but not Y weapon.

[covert nest]

I understand the direction they went with that and I didn't hate it completely.

[feral garden]

Same, but their execution of it is kinda terrible.

Like they allow some of the really OP ARs or Carbines for one class...but not other worse weapons in the same category. It just feels weird in practice

[nimble bridge]

Battlefield has always been ''Big map CoD''. It looks slower than 2042 which is my main concern instead. ADS speeds are too slow and TTK is too fast.

[mossy marten]

This dude says ttk is too fast while it's quite literally the same as every other BF

[covert nest]

The damage for the galil is 33(.4) up close so I'm interested to see what they're gonna do

But than again

The ttk for bf5 in the alpha was way 1uicker.

[mossy marten]

33 up close at 680 rpm makes it a 267ms ttk
G3a4 with same dmg at 600rpm makes it 300ms

I would post screenshots, but no tengo perms

[covert nest]

267 ttk is good yeah. I think they're going to incorporate body multipliers.

Which is why it has such high damage.

Up close anyways

[mossy marten]

Hopefully not too low for limbs, i want consistency instead of a gun being able to 4btk or 7btk by hitting random body parts

[nimble bridge]

Well I didn't play, that's what people who played it told me though 😛

[covert nest]

It's most likely gonna be an extra bullet.

It shouldn't be that extreme.

[nimble bridge]

There are 217ms ARs too, weapon that looks similar to ACWR

[feral garden]

Based in the damage areas, you do different damage to the legs, arms, torso, chest and head

[covert nest]

Hk433

[mossy marten]

Going by raw numbers, its the same
Ttd on the other hand, might feel fast, but that's cuz netcode and stuff that's still being worked on

Also GTA VI confirmed for may 2026 release date

[covert nest]

Reminds me a dice dev round the bf4 era walked into the office and saw a box of rubber bands with the caption "bad netcode"

[mossy marten]

[covert nest]

If it's good I'm gonna because an ACE 32 main.

I love the galil.

[nimble bridge]

Good

We will play BF6 before GTA6

[weak obsidian]

PC 2027 awesome sauce

[mossy marten]

Doesn't mean BF6 is confirmed fall this year release tho

[weak obsidian]

I think most people want a game slower than 2042

[mossy marten]

My guess is still March 2026 over Fall 2025

[weak obsidian]

I think it's most likely going to be 2025 tbh

unless insiders suggest otherwise

[nimble bridge]

I'm fine with slower pacing too, I've been playing MWIII which is slower than 2042 imo, it's fine but I don't want the game to come to a crawling halt of headglitching and corner holding

[weak obsidian]

I have a solution to headglitching but you're not going to like it...

[covert nest]

I'll say this. 2042 is ultra fast paced and I agree that it needed to be toned down a bit.

But the issue i have is how far people want it.

And interpretations around it

[weak obsidian]

even MWIII would probably be considered too fast

[weak obsidian]

I think most people would be happy with BF1 pacing

[covert nest]

Fun fact. @mossy marten the g36 as I've been told is the g36ka4

Bf1 bf5 pacing yeay

[weak obsidian]

the vitriol for sliding and bouncing around is brazy

[nimble bridge]

I want BF4 pacing

[covert nest]

2042s slide just allows it which is annoying.

It breaks the hit box and netcode.

[weak obsidian]

maybe without the bat shit crazy jumping....

[weak obsidian]

I can confirm

[mossy marten]

Yup, I've known for a bit
(TooMuchCyanide was quite happy when he found out lol)

[covert nest]

Ohhh yeah he pointed it out.

Like of course

Of course cy would look up the specific model of the g36 hahaha

I'm very happy for him.

[glacial orchid]

It's a higher percentage that the release for BF6 will be March/April 2026. Reason being the game is prealpha right now in BF Labs from what we've seen from the Leaks. Maybe Beta test in Oct/Nov this year

[mossy marten]

Yeah, that's what I'm guessing as well
A larger open beta during fall to stress test servers on a super large scale

[covert nest]

To be fair

We have 6 months

You can do a lot in 6 months.

[glacial orchid]

Sure just release another shitty title with glue and tape

[mossy marten]

True, but I think they'll want to make this game as polished as possible to prevent mistakes of the past

[covert nest]

Furthest i personally want is December.

But that's a want.

[mossy marten]

I want a functional game
I can wait till march/april
It sucks, but working game better than not

[glacial orchid]

Hell I'll wait till 2027 if it means the best Battlefield ever

[covert nest]

I want them to work on the game as long as possible (and I never implied a n early release and a buggy game like dude alright lol)

[glacial orchid]

I got 20 other games to fill the void and hit S999 in Battlefield 2042

[covert nest]

We've seen 2 to 3 months worth of development and I like to think they can do a crazy amount within another 6 8 months.

Fuck getting max rank in that game.

[mossy marten]

Yeah, im s303
Ain't nobody got the sanity to reach max level there lol

[glacial orchid]

Lots of people of have lol

[mossy marten]

Are they currently sane tho

[glacial orchid]

You tell me. Smokey, EK, Logan...

Dsciv

[feral garden]

https://x.com/RockstarGames/status/1918265468076605706

Rockstar Games (@RockstarGames) on X

Grand Theft Auto VI is now set to release on May 26, 2026.

https://t.co/YgaIn1cYc8

X · May 2, 2025, 11:25 AM

GTA 6 delayed a year

Likely allows Next BF game a safe Q4 2025 release window (If needed)

[mossy marten]

I'm still guessing March 2026

[feral garden]

Yeah, maybe. I just mean if they had planned to release in 2025...there isnt really anything stopping them now

[mossy marten]

True
But I truly hope that they are still considering moving it back if they did plan 2025 to make it as polished as possible

[subtle summit]

Gta comes out next year looks like youll be able to release earlier

[deep mica]

BF6 IN NOVEMBER 2025 Lez goooooooo

[mossy marten]

It's not confirmed whatsoever
It may still be early 2026 for all we know

[feral garden]

Release when its ready. 👌

[winter viper]

Me at S805...

[mossy marten]

But u not s999 tho

[winter viper]

Definitely not sane anymore

[mossy marten]

Understandable
Have a great day

[tepid plinth]

yay

[static canopy]

GTA Delayed Release BF6 this year

🥂 🦜

[verbal crypt]

Fun fact I’ve never played a single second of any GTA game ever lol

[nimble bridge]

I played all of them but I only really liked San Andreas and Vice City, didn't finished any of them though

I like Vice City most due to aesthetics, it's pretty much a Scarface game

[weak obsidian]

GTA 4 is peak

[fleet robin]

now that gta is delayed yeah

[urban crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[latent aspen]

yes

[frosty sonnet]

did anyone hear gta6 will be deyla to 2026

[frosty sonnet]

nope

[scenic hatch]

is only Console Players choosen for labs?

[versed token]

No

[scenic hatch]

ok thx. wondering that the leaks are only Console players made,

[mossy marten]

there's reasons that it's controller players leaking

[scenic hatch]

[frosty sonnet]

yup

and they are not even cc

[scenic hatch]

but it looks like the game will more optimization for Controller....

[mossy marten]

how so?

and what does it mean "more optimization for controller"?
did you mean more optimized for console?
cuz if they didn't optimize PC (which is A LOT of BF players compared to console) they would get hella flak

[scenic hatch]

yeah i mean for console. when i start 2042 90% are Console Players. Console players have less recoil, its the wrong way. You can play on console dont get me wrong but than pls the same for all Players, and when you are bad, like the player who leaked the gameplay pls, than he must get punished by other players and dont reward these kind of players with technical stuff.

when i remember than was BF4 CTE only for PC players isn't it?

[mossy marten]

well obviously console is gonna have less recoil, it just makes sense 🤷‍♂️
and bf4 cte i don't know if it was pc only or not
but they have to test crossplay during labs, because not doing so would be dumb

[deft nacelle]

You really should go back and play GTA IV. It's one of my top 5 all time games, and I've been playing since the Atari 5200 was new.

[deft nacelle]

Facts

[scenic hatch]

less recoil with a fast TTD like in 2042 is for me not ok, the weapons are Lasers on Range and closed fight, put the TTD little bit higher to solved the one frames than im Happy. Most of my deaths i cant react.

[versed token]

Can't say i agree that you can't react

I definitely can

[nimble bridge]

Unpopular opinion but current 2042 has the best gunplay in the series 🥶 Or has the potential to be the best

They need to give it higher recoil and more damage dropoff brackets and voila, you have the best BF gunplay

[scenic hatch]

yeah good point but than also for Console Players. and Damage drop on range would be also nice.

[mossy marten]

well that's cause 2042's netcode and servers kinda 💩 themselves 99% of the time

[nimble bridge]

I'm fine with less recoil on controllers tbh, current recoil looks good according to leaks

People still can't control it

BF6 most likely won't have overpowered aim assist unlike other modern shooters anyways imo, 2042 had good aim assist compared to modern shooters

[scenic hatch]

yeah in the new one it looks good youre right!

[summer helm]

I’m concerned that the delay of GTA VI will cause the new battlefield to be rushed and crunched to release this fall

[mossy marten]

if EA is smart, they will allow them time to polish the game to as good as it can be

if it means early 2026, fine by me

[nimble bridge]

I hope they rush it, I want to play new Battlefield 😭

[mossy marten]

smacks hand
no, bad, i want polished game

[nimble bridge]

Well true but I still want them to release it this year, there is no better release date

[mossy marten]

jan-mar 2026 is a good timeframe as well

[nimble bridge]

Modern FPS space is quite literally slop, DICE has an easy win in their hands

Look at the competition, Marathon and BO6.5

[mossy marten]

still doesn't mean they should rush to compete in the fall 🤷‍♂️

i'd rather wait until early next year to have good game rather than a launch that's a cluster

[nimble bridge]

Well true, let's hope core systems and maps are good at launch even if it's delayed, I hope they will leave few funny bugs in the release, funny bugs are part of Battlefield experience like the spider hovercrafts or long neck

[faint pivot]

Bf4 was very faint at least to where you can barley see it but also see an icon on the grenade itself

[mossy marten]

bf4's grenade wind trail was very much visible

[faint pivot]

I have yet to see dramatic Ragdoll effects, Downed state breaks immersion and looks goofy

Grenade wind trails are more cartoonish looking in bf6, if they kept it closer to 3 and 4 with just an icon you get to learn actual skill on how high or low you should throw kinda of like the m320 on hardcore no indication yet I can range perfectly and get kills from far away same with grenades you just have to LEARN instead of it giving you an easier advantage, makes it more immersive

If you can toggle on and off the point counter that’s good I didn’t know that but overall they should still get rid of it

Gunplay doesnt look exactly like 2042 compared to the first playtest but the reload times, aim down sight speed and recoil is more comparable to that than 3/4 tho i see they are trying to get it close to 3/4 but i still see some 2042 in it

The corner and object mounting is a suggestion so it balances out better not canceling out the bipod making it useless

If you played the last games then played 2042, you’d know bf3 and bf4 recoil is something to LEARN as well as grenade throwing range, so you can control the guns spread and sways, I still get a sense of laser beam gameplay it’s not the least useful thing ever because some of the most little details makes the most drastic changes. It’s not that hard to think bout

[faint pivot]

If you understood what immersion is maybe you’d understand what those people are saying lmao

[faint pivot]

Not as visible as this one bud, again a lot more faint, there is no arguing against that lmao

[faint pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XlncczdDucU?si=_90mDFExt1cF_aiZ

[faint pivot]

it should take skill to control a weapon not laser beams that’s what makes battlefield intense is trying to land those shots from a distance with recoil but if you can control it right it’s a lot more appealing and rewarding right now it’s laser beamish

[covert nest]

Sticks aren't exactly the best with recoil.

[mossy marten]

1. mentioned above your post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmyPoNGzUfs
2. damage numbers should be toggle-able, not fully removed
3. gunplay is (from leaked footage) entirely it's own version of BF gunplay; the reload times are whatever, ads times have been relatively consistent in the BF games
4. i haven't seen footage
5. BF has never had crazy recoil

[covert nest]

It's possible but considering the limited nature it's kinda annoying.

And yeah the recoil has never been a lot.

[mossy marten]

only BF that has had crazy recoil is BFV, but that's cuz of the extremely poor decision of making spread = recoil

and it's not even high vertical recoil

and this is from someone on MnK, where recoil is 30% more than controller/console

[covert nest]

I wouldn't even say it was high there but it was more inconsistent.

It was really funny too going from console to pc and just beaming people with the ke7 like it was nothing.

[mossy marten]

yeah, hence the "crazy" because it was a crazy bad idea to add lolol

[nimble bridge]

I think BFV pretty much has more recoil than any other recent BF tbh

[covert nest]

First game on bf5 just flicking a dude so hard he called me a cheater.

Bf5 pc.

[faint pivot]

Recoil was a lot more noticeable and effective in 3/4 compared to 2042 I’m not saying the gun needs to spaz but there needs to be a learning curve to create some actual skill, in 3-4 the 240 bravo spread would be crazy because of recoil, but like in real life if you tap fire it’s more accurate. They need to bring this sense of recoil back

[mossy marten]

lol, i got called a cheater for hitting a 4sec hang time zook

[covert nest]

I was playing with cy today and somehow we didn't get called cheaters today

There was this one randy that was mad though.

Bf3 and bf4 didn't have much recoil either.

[faint pivot]

Scar h recoil was violent in 3/4 2042 it’s laser beams and new footage is somewhat laser beams, doesn’t matter if it’s leaked it’s their movement system for now and we’re here to tell them what to do with it

[covert nest]

Pushing your mouse up to control recoil isnt difficult

[mossy marten]

down

[covert nest]

Plus it's a SCAR L.

[mossy marten]

for the non invert players lol

[faint pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xrat3TK1cRk?si=0S4SYEtz4Dxo12EY

[covert nest]

Get out of here non invert casual

[faint pivot]

This is plenty of recoil lmao

[mossy marten]

bro posted a link of launch/beta 2042 and a clip of a bf3 trailer....

[faint pivot]

Still adds more skill and is more immersive and enjoyable than laser beams

[covert nest]

Again it's a SCAR L or course it's easy to control it.

[faint pivot]

Here lemme find full made game play footage for you then

[mossy marten]

brb, gonna grab some recoil footage

[covert nest]

Your incentivised to burst anyways due to spread.

[mossy marten]

this

[covert nest]

Managing spread and recoil has always been a battlefield thing.

[mossy marten]

recoil has never been excessive though

[covert nest]

Yeah it's always been kept down by the need to pace.

And when you do go full auto you're either heavily punished or you're a support gunner.

[feral garden]

All of this is purely academic anyway, as you can't judge recoil from videos.

[covert nest]

Well when you go full auto its point blank and someone jumpscares the shit out of you.

Players are becoming more naturally inclined to control recoil.

Thanks to cod.

Vivid reminder about that ak105 kit that removed all vertical recoil and would actually fuck over half the player base who are used to actually controlling recoil.

[feral garden]

if they kept it closer to 3 and 4
So you want the grenades to be big flashing orange illuminous balls, and call this more "immersive"? Ok...I guess

The corner and object mounting is a suggestion so it balances out better not canceling out the bipod making it useless
What?

you’d know bf3 and bf4 recoil is something to LEARN as well as grenade throwing range, so you can control the guns spread and sways,
BF4 has very little to learn when it comes to gunplay. You just tap fire to win, or full auto in CQC.

[mossy marten]

@faint pivot
https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/258372071086620674/1367906995843367013
recoil visuals and patterns for BF3, BF4, BFV, Hardline, and 2042 (not including BF1 because i can't be arsed to install that game)

all MnK no control, all 1x sights (1.25x for 2042, cuz no 1.00x), attachments that are commonly used on those guns

bfv didn't let me choose specilizations, so didn't have the vertical recoil reducing one to enable

and all were m416 minus bfv, which i used the sturmgewehr instead

[faint pivot]

It’s a lot more immersive then a cartoonish looking windtrail and plus in hardcore you can’t see them, again grenade launching and throwing took some skill to learn in bf3 and bf4 I understand 4 had trails but very faint at least

Corner and object mounting can make the bipod become useless and really have no meaning if they don’t tweak it correctly, mounting a weapon to a wall or sandbag shouldn’t give you as much recoil control as a bipod it’ll balance itself out while still keeping the mounting feature in the game

Bf4 still had more visual recoil than bf2042

Bf3 was probably the best for me in terms of gunplay and recoil

[mossy marten]

BF4 DID NOT HAVE MORE VISUAL RECOIL THAN 2042

[feral garden]

Lol

[mossy marten]

also hardcore mentioned, so i automatically decided to leave this convo at this point in time

[feral garden]

Save your sanity. We have another realism and immersion lover. Which only applies as an argument against things they don't like.

Glowing orange ball for grenades? 👍

Small wind trail behind grenade? 👎

[faint pivot]

Yes but for some reason In 3-4 it felt a lot more natural and effective in 2042 it’s as if the visual recoil is just there for your eyes and not for actual gameplay or spread

[feral garden]

Probably because they removed it in 4

[faint pivot]

You’re goofy, it’s the small details that make huge differences

[mossy marten]

BF4 quite LITERALLY does not have visual recoil
please refer to the clips i posted in the screenshots channel

[mossy marten]

yeah, anytime someone who likes/mains hardcore in BF, i auto ignore anything they say for the core modes 🤷‍♂️

[faint pivot]

Bf4 literally has visual recoil

https://youtube.com/shorts/znmBeafkXvE?si=qTo8ZiUkpaqFIZGm

[covert nest]

I know there was an update to the recoil systems in bf4 at one point.

[faint pivot]

Well you sure are replying to everything you ignore lmao you guys are funny

[covert nest]

It was a conscious effort by dice to improve gunplay.

[faint pivot]

It’s ok everything first stated when I joined this labs yall were trying to downplay too but they actually ended up changing the things myself and plenty other vets were talking bout lmao

[faint pivot]

Your opinion doesn’t dictate the direction this is going the community as a whole does lmao

[feral garden]

Visual recoil was removed from BF4 😂

[summer turret]

[faint pivot]

It was still in bf4 😂

[covert nest]

Was.

[feral garden]

Then why are you saying it has it?

[faint pivot]

Yeah he said it wasn’t in it

[mossy marten]

sigh i'm replying to the stuff you stated about the older games, not what's happening with the new game
like the bf4 stuff

[faint pivot]

He said bf4 didn’t have visual recoil while it did

[mossy marten]

Hi Loe, how are you

[feral garden]

You said it has, meaning you didn't know it was removed.

[faint pivot]

It’s ok dice and ea are who I’m hoping these comments reach not yall 🙏🏻

[covert nest]

Probably because they removed it in 4
Visual recoil was removed from BF4

[summer turret]

vibing, doin ok hbu?

[faint pivot]

They’re already listening to their community so I’m sure they’ll take note of what I said

And many others who are saying similar things

[feral garden]

Oh I'm sure yeah

[mossy marten]

stuff

[covert nest]

And they're gonna magically add the aug which is what I want

Lol

[mossy marten]

also, that shorts clip you posted saying BF4 has visual recoil, that was a 2042 clip

[faint pivot]

Yeee first playtest was garbage in my opinion everything we complained about got fixed and it drastically improved in second so im not too worried i think they’ll listen

[covert nest]

No. These things they're doing right now are a conscious effort on dice to make a decent gameplay experience.

[faint pivot]

Listen to the audio all the way through

[covert nest]

People play games to play not fight.

"First playtest was garbage" yes. That's the nature of a playtest.

[mossy marten]

yeah, idk wtf westie smoking

i literally recorded footage of the recoil 20min ago of bf3-2042 not including bf1 lol

[covert nest]

Ironically recoils are more felt in semis due to the nature of them.

[mossy marten]

yup

[steady wagon]

Random question about Labs

If I were to be in a playtest, in which I play on Xbox, and clipped something with my remote, would the clip save to my Xbox?

[mossy marten]

well;

1. you shouldn't be saving clips to your xbox since that's against NDA i believe
2. i don't know, i'm on PC

[steady wagon]

Essentially what I'm asking is that would it be possible for me to record captures on my Xbox without violating the agreement

[steady wagon]

Okay that makes sense just curious

[mossy marten]

that's something you would need to talk to an EA/DICE dev about

but i highly doubt it's allowed to clip/record stuff

[steady wagon]

Obviously I don't want to violate the terms of service because I'd like to actually provide feedback and wouldn't want to throw that all away by posting it or something 😭

[steady wagon]

Okay that makes sense then thank you

[feral garden]

Read the playtest agreement on the ea playtest site. It's at the bottom of the page.

[mossy marten]

[steady wagon]

Will do 🤞

[covert nest]

I reckon it shouldn't be a problem as long as you save it for your personal use as no one but you has seen it.

But of course I'm not EA I'm just trying to think reasonably.

Corporate shit often covers many many edges.

[feral garden]

I don't think it specifically says you can't record, just that you aren't allowed to share anything. Unsure if recordings on Xbox are auto-uploaded to a cloud or something, which may violate said agreement

[covert nest]

They do by default.

I've had to disable that cause limited space.

[tall urchin]

HC detected, opinion rejected

[faint pivot]

Yes my whole comment was basically aimed towards them listening to us after heavily criticizing the movement and gunplay while some people here thought it didn’t need any changing and that “it’s a new battlefield w its own style let it be “ lmao no as long as we push heavy criticism and hold them accountable they will listen to the majority

[faint pivot]

That’s what this whole playtest is for is for giving them feedback on things they can change 💀

[faint pivot]

Westie wasn’t smoking anything he’s been close to battlefield devs for awhile and I’m sure always gets nees before anyone else I think he knows what he’s talking about lmao

[faint pivot]

Yall just must not be good at hardcore and it shows 😂

[glad trench]

It’s hilarious you and some bf Reddit boomers think you’re the majority

[glad trench]

Didn’t we already have this discussion about you posting your stats and you hit us with the “Russians hacked my account”

[faint pivot]

They did my boi and I’m not lying about that lmao idk what else to tell you, too bad they’re listening to those boomers and literally switched everything I and plenty others across the internet first critiqued go cryyyyyy somewhere

[faint pivot]

If I had my old account I would post it there is no shame or lies to be told bro I don’t play games like I used to but when I did play games I was on it from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep sweaty and grinding on gta4 online red dead 1 online and bf3 and yes i was a beast on bf3, I really wish I could get my stats to show but I can’t so oh well idc what yall gotta say bout that ik what I was capable of on bf3, getting kicked from servers just because I’d be racking up admin kills 😂

[faint pivot]

We can always hop on a bf3 or bf4 game together squad up and see who comes out on top, from kd to point racking, I was beast on console and I’ve only gotten better on pc

[glad trench]

“They’ve switched everything” so you’re blind and dumb?

Also, this is DICE bud, they’ve fucked with TTKs in the games multiple times within a year, they can revert a lot of shit. Wild how this is a playtest and they can just turn knobs at their leisure

Also because everytime I see you post I see some subspecies’ opinions and articulation, I’m just going to block you

[feral garden]

Westie who abandoned the franshise to play warzone? 🤣

[faint pivot]

Yeah because battlefield went in a shit direction😂

Bf1 was fire and bfv was decent

Majority of bf YouTubers stated theyre switching up their content because of those reasons and because it brings more traffic to their pages

[feral garden]

Westie is a walking contradiction. He forms his opinion based on what's popular at the time he makes it.

[faint pivot]

Westie is one YouTube there is lvlcap threatty all these YouTubers got big off battlefield

[feral garden]

Cried for a live service BF game for years and for premium to stop, then straight away cried asking for premium back once the community hated live service.

Westie didn't get big off Battlefield lol

[faint pivot]

Yeah that’s how things worked they didn’t have test environments back then

[feral garden]

Clueless, I'm out

[faint pivot]

Yes we did goofball

He blew up off battlefield

Go look at his oldest videos you’re the clueless one

“ClUeLeSs” 🫵🏻🤓

[feral garden]

"yes we did" oh lord

[faint pivot]

Someone can’t accept facts 😢

Womp womp

[feral garden]

"we"

[glad trench]

Grown man crashing out over you dissing Westie

[feral garden]

🤣

[faint pivot]

You don’t know the definition of Crashing out bubba go back to paying attention in class

Homie takes a typo and runs w it 🤡

Westie*

For your own sanity lol

[clear viper]

😭

[faint pivot]

Again go look at his oldest videos he in fact did get big off of battlefield and was a big part and voice of the community along with a couple others wayyyyy before he became mainstream popular opinion type of guy

[feral garden]

And as soon as the Battlefield money well dried up, he jumped ship. Can't blame him, he wanted his channel to survive. He doesn't even cover news on BF anymore tho.

His takes on the franchise and what it needed/needs are historically terrible tho. You won't change my opinion on that.