battlefield-labs-discussion

[hasty pine]

@mossy marten

What?

[mossy marten]

the soon ™️ was a joke
i don't know when testing is

[hasty pine]

My comments were deleted. That's why I was asking

[glad trench]

People under nda wouldn’t know they to begin with.

I thought I saw a tweet a few months ago with a former series music director/composer said they’re back

Could be thinking of a diff game

[mossy marten]

well i didn't delete them, i'm just a normal user

[tepid plinth]

could be. They do lots of work for other people afterall

[glad trench]

Nah we’ll get an in engine trailer during the summer when everyone shows their shit off. A proper gameplay trailer… ya that’s a long way off

[weak obsidian]

by proper do you mean uncut gameplay

because they usually do their edited gameplay trailers in June

[delicate minnow]

i'm loving the visuals so far, that destruction clip looks pretty good

glad we got shown something!

im a certified hater but i'm cautiously hyped about the next bf

[versed token]

Message i replied to got removed

[indigo pebble]

what i wouldent give to have a crack at the bf6 before my little one is born my 1 year old already taking my turn on other game soon wont have anytime to play lol

[digital niche]

It's a huge improvement from when it was first revealed that's for sure.

[indigo pebble]

cant wait to drop that debris onto a camping sniper or lmg lol

[hot veldt]

I wish me back in next bf assault with medic box and supporter with ammo box, both in one is shit

[nimble bridge]

I want ||Solar Fields|| in Battlefield ||2143||

[azure flax]

so is battlefield labs just gonna be renamed battlefield 6 in the future

[weak obsidian]

we don't know

[ebon beacon]

there hasn't been a Battlefield 5 tho

[golden vortex]

Then what did the V stand for in Battlefield V?

[nimble bridge]

TreVor Noah

[tepid plinth]

I too loved the coop gamemode in bf1

[indigo pebble]

there was a coop game mode in bad company 2 that was pretty good too and the beitnam dlc was amazing

[smoky notch]

Why there are so many leeks lately?

And it doesn’t really look like that the devs want to hide them

[fleet robin]

because people are leaking

and trying to remove leaks from the internet is very hard

[tepid plinth]

And also they just gave up after so many got out

[smoky notch]

I mean when there were bo6 leaks the devs desperately tried at least to delete some videos which they did, but I can’t see the same thing happening with BF leaks

[smoky notch]

lol true

[tepid plinth]

And is probably partially due to the mostly positive reception

[cedar flax]

I was ready to pre-order after the first set of leaked clips lol. I'm so excited to play it

[tepid plinth]

I will not pre order even if it looks like the best game ever made

[clear viper]

It meant 5 but it also stood for Victory

[fleet robin]

They did the same for labs before giving up and allowing it. Probably saw that the community reaction was positive and let it go

[glad trench]

Let’s go back to giving the best weapon class the med box and defibs… def works great for balance

[smoky notch]

I see. What do you personally think of the leaks btw?

[fleet robin]

i think they look great, dice seems to know what people want and are working on giving it to us

[verbal crypt]

On a random note has anyone received an invite for the Marathon Alpha👀

[nimble bridge]

My brother did

[verbal crypt]

I got one too but it was in my promotions folder lol. Just saw it today

[mossy marten]

[cursive ridge]

Excuse me, what?

they are rebooting Marathon???

Like, the Marathon????

[mossy marten]

um, yeah
as an extraction shooter

[verbal crypt]

I mean this respectfully how haven’t you seen/heard about this lmao

[mossy marten]

this has been old news for nearly a year i believe

[cursive ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/where-have-i-been-shea-whitney-where-did-i-go-where-i-went-where-have-i-gone-gif-23644990

[regal silo]

I got one, kinda surprised. I’ve never been invited to a alpha before

[cursive ridge]

Wife & kids man; don't get a chance to be as caught up as I'd like to be

[verbal crypt]

That’s fair life does get in the way sometimes ehh lol

[verbal crypt]

Nice! I’m trying to find some folks who got invites cause I don’t want to play with total
Randoms lol

None of my friends got an invite

[mossy marten]

and before anyone in here says NDA stuff for marathon
they removed the nda requirement

[verbal crypt]

Yep that’s why I’m openly chatting about it lol

[mossy marten]

i know, it's more for those who didn't know

[verbal crypt]

Did they ever come out to say why they removed the nda stuff? Seems to be a quick decision change lol

[regal silo]

Their official statement I think had something to do with them staying transparent I want to say don’t quote me on this pls lol

[verbal crypt]

Fair enough lol, either way I’m happy about it

[regal silo]

As am I, it’s been a long time waiting for that game to come out into the light

[ruby merlin]

Based ngl. My order of priority is Wife, kids, then games and stuff

[cursive ridge]

Wife>kids>work>games>housework

[ruby merlin]

Yeah true

People always say I'm wierd for wife being above kids

But

A good relationship with wife will make it easier to be a parent of the kids and they will see how well you are with your wife and will be more secure

Wife loves me for me and chose me. You love your kid and your kid loves you becuase your their father

Your wife chose you

For you.

If that makes sense

As soon as I get home I go to wife lol

Children are influenced by their environment and that's why it's important to have a good relationship with your partner

[nimble bridge]

You can send them invites if you have an invite

[verbal crypt]

Wait really?? How many can I send lol

[nimble bridge]

I dunno

My brother sent me his invite

[verbal crypt]

Hmm I’ll have to look into it

[fleet robin]

i fucking wish

hoping for someone to give me a friend code

[verbal crypt]

Looks like they changed who can send invites. My Bungie account says “you are not eligible to generate invite links at this time”

Might only be for streamers or bigger creators to send invites

[fleet robin]

apparently only people with priority invites will get friend invites

so the ones who got them from streamers

one of my friends used a priority invite so i'm hoping he gets them

[verbal crypt]

Ahh okay that makes sense, well best of luck my friend if you get one I’d love to run some

[ruby merlin]

Hey so uhhh, can I get an invite please 😭🙏

[verbal crypt]

See above lol. I would if I could but looks like it’s only for streamers with priority invites

[ruby merlin]

Aww rip

At least there isn't an nda anymore

Which battlefield should do honestly as it's public now pretty much and they would get much more feedback

Also there wouldn't be anymore microwave gameplay 😭😭

[glad trench]

I got in. I’m down to play with ya

[verbal crypt]

Nice! I’ll message ya this week when it starts

[glad trench]

They probably will soonish. Probably didn’t have the backend infrastructure ready to scale up that much

[fleet robin]

for sure, we'll see on the 23rd

[verbal crypt]

🤘

[indigo pebble]

off on holiday tomorrow watch me get a email while im away haha

[tepid plinth]

Saw some posts on Reddit and I can’t understand why some people actually want thermals to work through smokes

It’s just the stupidest thing

They already give you vision on enemies with next to zero downsides, now they want it so you can just die through smoke without any means to know you are being hit by someone using thermals

[nimble bridge]

Just don't add thermals

[deft basalt]

It may be realistic but it for sure isn't a great idea gameplay wise, i agree that it shouldn't be able to see through smoke

[nimble bridge]

Or make it like BFV's infrared M1A1 It exists but you can't see 💩 with it

[weak obsidian]

if they do that, make it cost the entire attachment budget

[tepid plinth]

i'd rather it didn't exist at all to be honest

people complain about being shot through smoke because 3D spots don't dissapate, then want thermals for some reason to look right through them

[fleet robin]

thermals just don't belong in the game

[cyan grove]

Honestly ... I don't have a problem running thermals through smokes. I've started doing this by default in COD. Lets me shoot and hose down folks from further out. Or push through the objectives when there's smoke in the area.

The usual counters were incendiaries, shrapnel from explosives, or people running Cold Blooded/anti-thermal camo to hide heat signatures. I think that's why this complaint isn't prevalent in COD despite thermals being in their games since 2007.

[weak obsidian]

also flashlights!

[nimble bridge]

I want ||Suomi KP31|| with ||71|| round drum mag in the next BF

[regal silo]

We need the saiga with frag rounds again so people can get into obscure places on the map and start sniping away lol

[minor linden]

Could be cool if there was special attachments that took the whole attachment budget

Like you can use thermals or frag rounds but everything else on the gun is stock or near stock

[nimble bridge]

I hope a red dot won't cost an attachment point

2042's iron sights aren't bad so I assume BF6's iron sights will be good too but I would rather have clear red dot

[minor linden]

I wouldn’t say make it cost a lot, but it should cost something. 1 point would be good

Red dot is a pure upgrade from irons so it should cost a point to upgrade

[nimble bridge]

Well, it's a pure upgrade so it should be free, maybe higher magnifications can cost few points but red dot should be free imo

They should also bring back red dot color customization, I want to have a purple dot for better visual clarity

[mossy marten]

Red Dots should cost 1 point

Thermals should cost 10/10 points

[tall urchin]

I don't think a basic 1x red dot should cost because you end up with the same issue CoD has where roller players get more optimal guns because AA reduces their need to see their opponent and they can run one extra attachment while PC players are already wrangling with visual recoil and other obstructions to also want a blocky sight.

[mossy marten]

maybe, but BF doesn't have the same visual clutter garbage (or at least not as much) as CoD does
and footage doesn't show that much visual clutter along with BF not having the same AA system as CoD

the one BF game that could be comparable to CoD's visual clutter slop is BF1

[tall urchin]

It's not to the same degree, that much is true, but I just don't see why console gets training wheels plus another attachment slot.

[weak obsidian]

I don't see why higher magnification sights should cost more than low mag

unless they're variable zoom

both low and high magnification sights spec into better sight picture, just at different zoom levels which also means the trade offs associated with each level of zoom

[covert nest]

Say in theory this system was a thing.

They should make it so that for dmrs and snipers it doesn't cost much.

[nimble bridge]

Low mag gives you faster reloads

At least in CoD

[covert nest]

But the downsides higher magnification sights have innate to them.

So thats fine in itself.

[weak obsidian]

wait what?

[covert nest]

Not every gun works with a 3x.

[nimble bridge]

In CoD you can have 20 round mags instead of 30 to have faster reloads

I'm sure BF6's fast mags will work the same

[weak obsidian]

I was talking about low magnification

my bad

[weak obsidian]

that's why I think zoom level shouldn't play a factor into the cost

[covert nest]

Just have ordinary fast mags.

No complications to them.

Just faster reload.

[weak obsidian]

imagine red dot sights are like 2 points on sniper rifles even tho it's probably worse on them than the higher zoom scopes

[covert nest]

It'd be funny.

Some guns would work well with integrated attachments.

[weak obsidian]

punished for choosing the unoptimal set up 😭

[covert nest]

Like the snipers themselves.

I remember when cold war the aug came with its swarski sight.

Swarovski

[weak obsidian]

I'm not sure if they will make sniper scopes integrated

[nimble bridge]

It should be

[covert nest]

They would.

[nimble bridge]

4x is the default sight in 2042 for snipers

[weak obsidian]

maybe as part of the default preset maybe

[covert nest]

It's a 6x.

Well it should be a 6x.

[weak obsidian]

it's a 6x

I believe the VSK had the 4x

[vernal sinew]

This may be a long post, so apologies.

Have people started receiving invites for the next heat of the Battlefield playtesting?
The first go around I only had a Series X, so I know that was not included.
I have just upgraded to a beast of a gaming PC and I am hoping to get an invite.
I am worried though, because I logged into my EA account and it doesn't seem to have my full history with battlefield, I have played each new BF game since Bad Company 2.
Any insight would be helpful, thanks!

[nova cloak]

It is long

[nimble bridge]

You need to change your preferences I believe

From playtester account

[vernal sinew]

Thanks! I'll look into that.

[silver cedar]

I can’t wait for the next battlefield to come out.
2027 is gonna be crazy

[minor linden]

It’s supposed to come out in between April 1st of 2025 and March 31st of 2026

Unless it gets delayed, it’s not releasing in 2027

[silver cedar]

As a former member of the battlefield cap club I disagree with you

[minor linden]

It was officially announced lol. It’s happening some time during this fiscal year (unless it gets delayed of course)

[nimble bridge]

It's also already delayed for a year

It was supposed to come out in 2024, that's why they cut the support of 2042 last year

[silver cedar]

DICE PLS

[covert nest]

What kind of theory is that

The game was nowhere near ready at the state it was.

[silver cedar]

a game theory

[covert nest]

The new one

QUIET MATT

[feral garden]

It's 15 year old gamer theory.

[covert nest]

The game wasn't set to be released at any point but the delay in release is certainly a conscious effort from the usual schedule.

[feral garden]

Labs would have needed lots of planning and approval. So there is no way this new game was ever scheduled for release in 2024.

[covert nest]

I think their initial targets are sept to dec 2025 but if it happens then March is March.

[feral garden]

September - November 2025 is a realistic target, based on past games release dates. But as we know from their investor call, other games (GTA6) release dates may affect it.

[covert nest]

They will probably be pressured to release it as soon as possible.

[silver cedar]

After years of waiting DICE gave news

[covert nest]

If gta releases in Sept they could delay it to Oct but if inverse they'll need to find their place.

[mossy marten]

during the earnings call, the CEO did say they will let it cook as long as they can, even if it moves into next fiscal year

[covert nest]

God

Another year of dev would hurt it but at the same time it'd have such a strong launch.

[silver cedar]

They blame halo infinite on bf2042 flop

[mossy marten]

we can only hope it'll be earlier rather than later 🤷‍♂️

[silver cedar]

Dice

[nimble bridge]

Well usual BF cycle is 3 years between games, time between 2042 and BF6 will be 4

[feral garden]

Because 2042 was remade.

[glad trench]

[nimble bridge]

I blame DICE and EA for 2042 flop

[verbal crypt]

I blame Fortnite for the downfall of modern multiplayer gaming

[minor linden]

I blame Tetris for the downfall of modern gaming

[fleet robin]

true tbh

[glad trench]

Feels like yesterday (2017-2018) when my roommate lost his job because he would miss shifts playing Fortnite season 1

[verbal crypt]

I skipped half of my college classes and would post every victory royale on my snap story lmao🤣

Simpler times

[ruby merlin]

Infinite was a flop sorta to

For another reason

[deep epoch]

And you are right

And then warzone

[glad trench]

Both wrong

Oblivion horse armor is the only right answer

[feral garden]

Cant really blame Fortnite for delivering a fun and engaging game/live service for their target audience.

"For their target audience" being one of the most important parts of that sentence.

Other companies have tried to copy their "magic" with little success...but at the same time moving away from their OG target audiences (looking at you COD)

[scenic owl]

please god bring back server browsers

[rotund pier]

Does anyone understand the whole “weapon package” thing

[cyan grove]

To be fair ... COD releases their games so much on a yearly basis with so much consistency, that they can gradually replace generations. It's always been people from all over the world blasting music, swearing, slurs, and inviting kids to secretly play this game. A popular game mode? Congrats, it's going in the CDL game mode pool. Not popular? We'll swap it out for another one.

If they could still remain profitable after the jetpack and WWII eras, what's going to stop them?

[weak obsidian]

they're like weapon blueprints from CoD

[rotund pier]

Thanks

Every video I see describes it so fucking weirdly

[weak obsidian]

the wording from the source is kinda funky

[feral garden]

We dont have any clue how the next games packages will work. So its super not accurate to make blanket statements like "Its the same as COD blueprints"

Leaked info mentions a weighted points system for attachments, which is nothing like their blueprints system at all

[minor linden]

It's either that or a weird system where you can have different types of the same core weapon build like making a m16 out of a m4a1

It's more likely that it's just like weapon blueprints tho since they want monetization

[heady trail]

so is the destruction going to be like the finals?

[minor linden]

From what they've shown, it's about the same level but more realistic

[heady trail]

is it though? i'm hearing you can't destroy the "apple core" of the building, whatever the heck that means

[feral garden]

What I see them doing is having packages like BF1 used, for ease of understanding of a "pakages" intended performance role. But also allowing adaptation of those packages using a weight system.

AKA...each weapon load-out could have 10 possible points for attachments, but some attachments (Like shotgun/grenade under-barrels/thermal scopes) would incur a higher "points" cost

[weak obsidian]

I consider blueprints separate from gunsmith

[feral garden]

No, they arent going to have total destruction like in the finals. Read the latest blog

[weak obsidian]

I don't think this will be the case, at most they might be doing barrel lengths or nade launchers for the default presets

[minor linden]

The apple core is probably just the most destroyed state it can be in. Stuff like metal pillars and other parts of buildings will likely be indestructible so the map doesn't become a field by the end of the match

I mean "more realistic" as in actual damaging debris, more realistic crumbling, etc

[feral garden]

and being able to shoot through walls, have those shots damage those walls (Material dependent) and allow you to eventually get through without use of high explosives

A material based and balistic damage map design approach could be really great. Basically what ive wanted for years. The micro destruction of BF3 close quarters, combined with the larger scale destruction of the rest of the game. Added skill through map knowledge basically.

AKA, knowing that X wall is wood and plaster, allowing small arms penetration/destruction for passage

[weak obsidian]

I'm happy they're not just aping CoD

every meta set up is the same in those games

[feral garden]

COD could solve a lot of their meta issues and balance problems...by having a skin transmog system

[kindred haven]

or

a proper attachment system like mw2 2022

where i can actually customize the gun like i want it to

but knowing bf devs they wont do that

best thing you get is a scope and a muzzle attchemnt

and ofc the gun color costs 5$

and this skin here that doesent respect the games lore showing masterchief from the non logical or thematic collab also costs 30$

[rugged seal]

those are things that cod does

lol

[mossy marten]

Seems like you didn't keep up with the recent stuff?

[kindred haven]

and bf2042

[mossy marten]

Also mw2 2022 gumsmith worst one of modern cods

[kindred haven]

best one*

gun fine tuning that no other cod had

[rugged seal]

2042 had one collab and it was with dead space

[kindred haven]

very fitting

[mossy marten]

Tuning was miniscule differences that wasn't worth it 90% of the time

[kindred haven]

still better than all of the recent games

i would say put 2019 and mw2 at the same position

but 2022 had horrible progression

[mossy marten]

Thank god its not CoD or DF system

[kindred haven]

its worse than both

hopefully better than the finals one 💀

[mossy marten]

How is it worse

[kindred haven]

change the scope, change the muzzle (maybe)

[mossy marten]

Bro didn't keep up with recent mined stuff

[kindred haven]

yeah how

i see it when i have it in my hands playingit

they keep everything so tight under nda dont know shit about it

i think its a fps

maybe

you know what they could do

[mossy marten]

Give me a pink skin in game? Yes

[kindred haven]

have an open communication with the community about the games development and features, so they can get feedback

[rugged seal]

have you read 99% of the shit people in this channel talk about?

[kindred haven]

or, they can have nda playtests for half a year

[kindred haven]

so everyone is a tard? Not everyone has shit opinion

[weak obsidian]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

everyone hated the MWII gunsmith

[mossy marten]

MWII*

[tall urchin]

I want kill cams and pink gun skins so I can make someone lose their mind after I bhop another kill

[mossy marten]

yes

[glad trench]

literally

[weak obsidian]

pink skins are whatever

[tall urchin]

I'd legit pay money for a pink ass revolver

[weak obsidian]

as long is it isn't like the stupid CoD mastercrafts that spit flames

[kindred haven]

why are we talking wbout pink skins like its gonna be in the game?

[mossy marten]

who said we're talking about it like it will be in the game, i'm just saying i want a pink gun

[glad trench]

replace pink skins w/ any non "tacticool" skin and this community will lose their minds

[kindred haven]

so bf4?

[tall urchin]

Yeah, no fantastical weapon skins for sure. I don't want a moving nebula or some weird steam punk looking thing.

[glad trench]

nah dude, those skins are totally real and this fanbase totally doesn't make weird exclusions

[mossy marten]

anime skins are a go tho, since they exist irl

[weak obsidian]

I can't imagine the amount of work and hours put into them

[kindred haven]

the game will have microdlc regardless so it will have outlandish stuff or else people wont buy it

[tall urchin]

100% accurate

[kindred haven]

fortnitification

[weak obsidian]

fortnite is fun

[tall urchin]

Fortnitification is my favourite RHCP album

[mossy marten]

anyway, back to gunsmithing, go check some stuff online (not hard to find), some YT videos from Enders/Ghost Gaming/etc
it's not normal BF style

nor CoD/DF style

[tall urchin]

From what I've heard it actually sounds like a decent system

[mossy marten]

agreed

[weak obsidian]

it's like the Insurgency point system but it only applies to the gun

[kindred haven]

can i change the magazine and does that have difference in player movement speed or ads?

[weak obsidian]

we don't know

[kindred haven]

right

[mossy marten]

i don't know what +/- are, but it's not 4 slot BF style

[kindred haven]

so there is nothing to discuss

[weak obsidian]

?

[kindred haven]

if there is no concrete evidence

[mossy marten]

i also hope that attachments don't nerf ads speeds excessively like MWII, cuz that was ASS

[kindred haven]

balance

[weak obsidian]

this is stuff datamined from the Labs build

[weak obsidian]

I think it works for attachments like extended mag

[tall urchin]

I love having to choose between having a reliable gun and taking 500ms to aim

[mossy marten]

yeah, let me put on a red dot and muzzle and have my ads speed increased by 250ms

[weak obsidian]

but sights and muzzles are stupid

infinity ward is so bad at balancing attachments lmao

[kindred haven]

i think knowing previous games the attachments will be boring nothing special, i think the most special attachemnt was like in bf4 for the mares leg a 10 times scope or something like that

[weak obsidian]

that's fine tbh

gunsmith is one the worst things to happen to CoD imo

[kindred haven]

but i would like to see everything being changeable but we have to see

[weak obsidian]

everything being changeable doesn't mean anything if 90% of the attachments make your gun worse

[kindred haven]

ok and?

bf is a sandbox game

i dont wanna play bf to sweat my ass off cod is for that

[weak obsidian]

no one wants a worse gun

[kindred haven]

i wanna goof around put c4 on a bike go boom maybe shoot someone

[mossy marten]

this, why should most attachments make the gun feel worse instead of better

[tall urchin]

CoD is like the least sweaty game. Just hold left stick: the game.

[weak obsidian]

hilarious that using all your attachment slots in MWII is detrimental

[mossy marten]

yeup

[tall urchin]

Oh boy, my gun shoots now! I just have to preaim everything because of the 800ms sprint out time and additional 500ms ADS time!

[kindred haven]

the mw2 hate ahh yes bf my beloved mw2 hating game

800h in dmz and i cannot even remotly relate

[weak obsidian]

MWII is such a blunder

[kindred haven]

fr thats why it had the most fan favorite game mode of the entire frwmchise in the last 20 years fr fr

[weak obsidian]

what mode is that?

[tall urchin]

MW2 was CoD for people who couldn't even hope to win gunfights with 0ms reactive aimbot that works through stuns. Like the absolute lowest tier of FPS players.

[kindred haven]

mw2 hate when its the last good cod

[tall urchin]

"I know my game aims for me but can people move at a snail pace, have huge penalties for moving at all, and also have hugely telegraphed audio cues?"

[kindred haven]

2 times sloop but go off

now we have sprint backwards, and the other game that had a shitty story continuation and lazer guns

[weak obsidian]

it's like Insurgency but bad

[tall urchin]

It's Insurgency for alzheimer's patients.

[weak obsidian]

they should actually to commit to making a realistic shooter

instead they just made a weird in between game which no one likes

[mossy marten]

all i'lll say is, good thing that BF is not going the direction of mwII/bf1 for gunplay and movement

[weak obsidian]

guns don't really recoil like that irl

[kindred haven]

i always run backwards

[tall urchin]

I still wish it was a touch faster, but it's still early.

[weak obsidian]

wdym faster

[mossy marten]

movement

[tall urchin]

Bhop momentum decay increases considerably after the first.

[kindred haven]

bro wants to jump ahot around the corner

smh

[weak obsidian]

good luck getting that changed

You've seen the reddit posts...

[tall urchin]

As opposed to geriatrically clearing corners 1600ms at a time

[kindred haven]

you cant jump shoot in the finals, cause you lose momentum goated game

[kindred haven]

lets hope none of this happens

[tall urchin]

Thankfully Reddit isn't the definitive feedback source

[weak obsidian]

imo it's like in an okay state, the main thing for me is the animation look a bit wonky it's 6 months out from launch so whatever

[kindred haven]

one thing i do wanna say that i thought was positive

[weak obsidian]

I feel like the sentiment is representative of what the median player thinks lol

[kindred haven]

they showed a clip of a rpg hitting s building and just in comparision to the finals the destruction seems to be a bit better the debri makes more coherent to walk on surfaces

like in the finals you often get stuck on debri

[weak obsidian]

that's just the nature of having full destructible buildings

things will be jank

[kindred haven]

but they dont have that in this one?

[weak obsidian]

nope

[kindred haven]

so like bf4

if they copypaste bf4 its fine for me

[weak obsidian]

destruction looks more impactful this time

as it affects traversal and cover

[tall urchin]

Reminds me of BF3 destruction with the added improvements to gravity and sloughing of debris ala BFV.

[mossy marten]

Yeah the destructions cool
At least it doesn't level stuff like bc2/some parts of BFV

[weak obsidian]

yeah

[tall urchin]

As long as maps retain some semblance of structure, yeah.

[weak obsidian]

I wish fortifications returned

[mossy marten]

Meh, could take it or leave it tbh

[weak obsidian]

I think some way of patching up destroyed walls would be nice

[kindred haven]

i think so too

dfho added this 1:1 from bfv

[weak obsidian]

dfho?

[kindred haven]

delta force hawk ops, the game that you play rn cause there is no new bf game out

[weak obsidian]

💀

that game sucks

[kindred haven]

its not bad

[weak obsidian]

If I wanted to play 2042 I'd just play 2042

[kindred haven]

its better than bf2042 better gunplay but its forgetable regardless

@mossy marten you wouldnt know about this dfho game perchance?

[mossy marten]

I do know about DF

[kindred haven]

i saw you in that server a few times thats why i brought it up

[mossy marten]

Yeup, i mod in there

[tall urchin]

Better gunplay? That's just false lol

[nimble bridge]

I will riot if they don't bring back persistent servers

Played BFV yesterday and it's so much more better with persistent servers and map rotation

[nimble bridge]

It will be exactly same in BF6

Gunsmithing = meta slavery

[nimble bridge]

Same, I like the consistency of BF gunplay, ADS speeds are same, strafe speeds are same etc. In BFV all the guns had same strafe speed too I believe, like LMGs and SMGs had the same strafe speeds with or without lightened stock.

[weak obsidian]

there will always be a meta set up for weapons, but as long as the effects of the attachments aren't too drastic it should be fine

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, but issue got worse with MW19 and onwards

Everyone uses same 2-3 guns per CoD now

BO2 and MW2 had metas too but people were using more than just 2 weapons

I think BF3, BF1 and 2042 fixes that in BF games

Whenever I play BF4 or V I always see the same 2-3 guns, I rarely die to non meta weapons because no one uses them

In 2042 or 1 or 3 every gun is used to an extent

[weak obsidian]

all the guns added in live service just power crept the base game weapons

some of the 2042 guns also did the same thing lol

[nimble bridge]

Current 2042 meta is same as launch meta funnily lol

M5A3, SFAR, PP29 were meta back then, they are still meta now

[weak obsidian]

the VHS and the not RM277 are good as well

I think my problem with gunsmithing in these games is that range extending barrels are too powerful (especially in a large scale shooter like Battlefield) and extended mags are too good to pass on

[nimble bridge]

Solution: Don't have gunsmithing 🤷

[weak obsidian]

I think it's cool to dress up your gun...

just don't add those type of attachments

[turbid isle]

I really don't mind someone dressing up their gun ,I just don't want to see pay to play. Guns are stronger if you pay for bla bla

[nimble bridge]

It will be pay to win

They are copying COD's blueprints

Not exactly pay 2 win but pay 2 skip

[surreal cloud]

I don't think there'll be a meta issue. Most Battlefield gunfights aren't even 1v1

Same how you don't see people complaining about campers because the building just gets blown up

[nimble bridge]

Yet all the BF games had metas

[surreal cloud]

As in it dosen't really matter. You can use the AEK if you want but do just fine with any other gun.

Still will be killed by a tank

[covert nest]

Catch a shell to the face

[nimble bridge]

Tanks doesn't stop people from playing with PP29, ZK383, AEK etc.

[weak obsidian]

a majority of infantry deaths are by other infantry

[covert nest]

Blueprints have always been mega scuffed. They usually come in a way to push a certain playstyle that doesn't work with everyone.

In the battlefield sense, I won't really see a way it's any different than those starter kits. They come out at a later date but usually at the date for skins to come out in battlefield when people have gotten their shit prepped it won't really do anything.

[weak obsidian]

blueprints in CoD sucked ass anyways

they give you the worst attachments lol

[covert nest]

Yeah the weirdest suboptimal attachments.

[nimble bridge]

They make 30+ blueprints per meta weapon per game

Some of those combinations will be good anyways

Let's hope people who wanted BF to have gunsmithing are happy now

[tepid plinth]

what are they?

[weak obsidian]

I mean a lot of people think it's cool...

[weak obsidian]

weapon presets

CoD uses them in their skin bundles

[tepid plinth]

so you can buy attachments and stuff for money?

[weak obsidian]

they use attachments that are unlocked through regular progression but blueprints bypass that if you don't have said attachment(s) unlocked

[tepid plinth]

sneaky

[weak obsidian]

I think they're more egregious when it comes to the battlepass weapons

[tepid plinth]

Does sound like what Way was saying, sounds to me like attachment shortcuts

[weak obsidian]

yeah basically

[tepid plinth]

if anyone can get that preset anyway just through progression

[weak obsidian]

you can also unlock weapons earlier

the good thing is that the presets are usually pretty bad lol

[tepid plinth]

Further explains why I dislike buying skins for anything

I imagine they are set up to look like a 'complete package', so if you mix up any of the attachments with other ones it'll just look bad, almost forcing you to stick to one attachment set for visual consistency

same goes for specialists

[weak obsidian]

yup

attachment skins only apply to the ones that come with the blueprint

[covert nest]

Basically they're cut to get the attachments but it's technically not worth it for the few you get cause weapon progresion in battlefield is super lenient.

[weak obsidian]

some 2042 skins also have unique attachment skins but at least they also apply the colour scheme to other attachments

[covert nest]

Really you buy the blueprint for the skin / special effects.

I wish we could swap parts with 2042 skins between other guns.

Sorry for repeating what you said but yeah

[weak obsidian]

no worries

it is kinda convulated

[covert nest]

It can be yeah

It's annoying when attachments are locked behind the blueprint for the aesthetic so when yo try something else it just looks bad.

[tepid plinth]

it's like buying a skin for a specialist you used to like but never play

the fact that at some point I might not use them again deters me from ever considering buying skins

[weak obsidian]

yeah that's why I didn't really buy any bundles when I played

[covert nest]

I always buy stuff I know I'll use.

[nimble bridge]

I would've bought some skins for Zain or Mackay but event pass gave skins for them so I'm good

I rarely use anyone else anyways

[tepid plinth]

I just use the default skins lmao

[weak obsidian]

most paid skins don't look great imo

and cost way too much

[nimble bridge]

Let's hope new EU regulation makes them cheaper instead

[weak obsidian]

or at least a little bit less manipulative

[tepid plinth]

aren't we making it so that you need to show the actual cost of the item now instead of just the 'virtual coin price'

[weak obsidian]

yeah

[nimble bridge]

Well it will be less manipulative so less people will buy it imo

They might higher the prices to compensate for losses too so who knows

[weak obsidian]

damn...

well hopefully the new game doesn't go too crazy with those bundles

[tepid plinth]

good thing is we can just not buy them :)

[nimble bridge]

Weapon skins I personally don't care but soldiers should look grounded

[weak obsidian]

I'm more lenient on weapon skins but none of that tracer crap or dragon guns please

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

Anime M4 is okay imo, I might even buy it myself lol, but anime operators just no

[weak obsidian]

I mean you got dudes in Ukraine plastering their guns with anime stickers

I can't wait for the blueprint that turns your enemies into gold

[tepid plinth]

it's crazy how much better mouse input feels in a solo portal lobby

been practising helis and it's a night and day difference with how it feels

[nimble bridge]

Let's hope next BF won't have broken mouse input or recoil

[versed token]

Issue is supposedly fixed

[minor linden]

They should just copy/paste the CS skin system lol

[verbal crypt]

If it does I legit won’t touch the game lol

I expect mouse input to be as good as the finals, if not GG

[pulsar osprey]

[scenic hatch]

i need the Pre Order Button @Dice

[verbal crypt]

This Oblivion drop is fuckin wild catch me on this til further notice

Gamepass again the goat lol

[feral garden]

Bought it for PS5 instead of playing on game pass.

[verbal crypt]

Good guy supporting the devs 💪

[azure owl]

i suggest that people go log into their EA accounts/Labs on the website.... maybe you are a chosen one?

[mossy marten]

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[narrow basalt]

Pls nerf the destruction, it looks way too good

[turbid isle]

Huh no please no nerf tweak a bit maybe nerf no I like making a mess

[half halo]

Yessir

[stray veldt]

from that video clip we saw where a single rpg shot destroyed an entire side of a building i think that was a bit too much

i'd preferre some more localized destruction

[versed token]

Needle sized holes

[feral garden]

Now obviously the majority of us want there to be a server browser, but do ye think that the next game should also have region selection for matchmaking?

[versed token]

If the regular matchmaking doesn't automatically expand to other regions it's ass

[kindred haven]

small group of the community: we do not like bf3 and bf4

the rest: we like bf3 and bf4

dice: the next game will be heavily inspired by bf3 and bf4

W

the finals has more incommon with bf than bf2042 does

[minor linden]

Iirc they said it prioritizes ping anyways so it shouldn’t really matter

[feral garden]

Yeah, but for many players , like those in OCE, or US/EU in off peak hours...it would be nice to be able to select where you matchmake into

Especially for the longevity of the game. Stuff like this is less important at launch, but more important 4-5 years post launch and after.

Server browser would solve it mostly, but it would be nice to always be able to enter the game and just click play > it put you in a game

[rapid fox]

I also think most of the people liked bf3/bf4 more and would buy game that was inspired by them

[weak obsidian]

what is blud wafflin about

[icy maple]

Has the period for applying for this player passed? Or am I just missing something?

[feral garden]

It has not passed. there is currently just limited playeres being selected.

[icy maple]

O, so like do I apply to join the playtest, just like how you do other playtests? Or is it just from everyone who applied during the first wave

[tepid plinth]

There is no guarantee. Essentially once you sign up through the labs site your name is put in a hat that also has 1.5 million other names in it. And they just take a handful

[verbal crypt]

https://x.com/lordbaranox/status/1914883418061525168?s=46&t=6DZdfer51dXTwdU89QdDMA

This is the average BF reddit chatter ^

[tepid plinth]

I know it's mean but I find that stuff so funny, just people completely oblivious to their surroundings

[feral garden]

Probs also playing on a TV or with speakers, so they cant hear where anyone is or ginfire direction.

[golden vortex]

Lol, not even close

[versed token]

You don't even need to hear

Hit indicator is op

[verbal crypt]

This dude is playing on Nintendo DS and is blind I believe 🤣

[nimble bridge]

I want persistent servers with map rotation

I don't want to sent back to main menu after each game just to play same map over and over again

[nimble bridge]

Stop doxxing me

[verbal crypt]

Lmaoo

[minor linden]

Persistent servers really are necessary imo

It’s a basic feature that should’ve never been removed

[raven topaz]

lol

[glad trench]

You shadow boxing with ghosts?

[deft basalt]

Yeah, i hate joining games that are about to finish or even just finished. Joining games that just ended happened a lot in 2042, if the server was persistent i wouldn't care but the way it is in 2042 its just wasting my time by researching a game. Like, why ? why do you do this matchmaker?

[glad trench]

Because the game’s backend was built around whatever Hazard Zone was supposed to be

[neat canopy]

Did my post get deleted?

[mossy marten]

i wouldn't be surprised
if it's something relating to Labs that isn't public, then poof

[neat canopy]

Lol

[mossy marten]

you should probably check the email if you have received an invite..... it will explain everything

well should* i don't know as i'm here invite-less

[maiden hamlet]

[feral garden]

At least when it happened in BF4/V (Joining a game at or near the end of a round). You always knew that the next game is a brand new fresh round with the same lobby. Joining a round at the end in 2042 is insanely frustrating.

[half halo]

Still in the same team

[verbal crypt]

Bro Marathons “magnetism” for MNK is broken it’s legit aimbot lmao. Baby gaming confirmed

[tall urchin]

Don't nerf rotational aim assist because of the casual audience, just give everyone aimbot what a magical competitive experience

[verbal crypt]

Modern gaming is a joke fr lmao

Back to oblivion

[tall urchin]

Based, can't wait to play that

[verbal crypt]

It’s awesome so far, Clair Obscur tomorrow too. Hoping both of them will hold me over for 2 months lol

[tall urchin]

Clair also looks pretty legit, I have yet to look into that one too much

Kind of surprised me out of nowhere

[feral garden]

the premise of that, is there is some supernatiral entity, who paints a new age number every year, and people that age or older die?

[verbal crypt]

The early reviews of it everywhere are insanely good. I recommend trying it

[feral garden]

Yeah, average rating of 92

[verbal crypt]

The Paintress annually paints a number on a monolith, causing everyone of that age to vanish

[feral garden]

People born on a leap year day be like 🥳

[verbal crypt]

Hahaha that’s facts 🤣

[tall urchin]

So boomer remover

[verbal crypt]

Lmfao

[tall urchin]

I'd be waiting for my number like it's the lottery draw

[verbal crypt]

If Bf6 fails us I’ll be writing my own name and number on that monolith like it’s death note

[narrow basalt]

pls add angel back in battlefield

[mossy marten]

[verbal crypt]

Pls give me MacKay back but with infinite range grapple, no cooldown and 4x ADS speed

[feral garden]

One thing I hope people stop doing, it taking the most broken movement mechanics from past games (Like Vouzou/Zouzou), and using those as proof of past games movement capabilities/how people played those games. Then asking for that or similar in the next game.

I mostly hope for the next game to be an actual evolution of BFV (Lets all just forget 2042)

[turbid isle]

Abolutely A BF game without Persistant servers just does not seem like BF, hence why I rarely played 2042

[turbid isle]

Lolz your sarcastic wit is sic lmao 🙂

[minor linden]

Fr. Though, it also works the other way. People who’ve only played console in the old games shouldn’t be complaining about “fast pacing” in pc lab leaks. Console has always been slower than pc movement-wise. Especially PS

[feral garden]

True, but im all for striking a balance where everyone can be somewhat happy. Good players will continue to be good, regardless of the capabilities given

[verbal crypt]

Haha I love me some good bait now and again

[tepid plinth]

Well, if my experience over the majority of the last 10 years has been that kind of movement, I can’t turn around and say the game didn’t have that movement, but of course I get it from the perspective of them being exploits and people wanting the exploits back as opposed to the actual movement systems as they were designed at base

[feral garden]

I mainly dont like when people falsely claim that everyone, or a lot of players played like that. It is/was a small minority of players who play or move like that on PC

Just use what we had in BFV and build upon it. Have nice and fluid looking animations from the 3rd person perspective, like BF3 had (I really dont want the twitchy animation style BF4 had)

[tepid plinth]

Yeah I get that. Honestly I only properly realised that the console sphere was such a night and day difference about 2 ish years ago

I’d just been playing with pc movement for so long I thought it was how the general populous perceived it

[tall urchin]

If the movement exists but doesn't have the hitbox manipulation I'm down for skill based movement mechanics.

[tall urchin]

Imagine instead of a grapple we get a zipline with the same momentum for slingshotting, but you can only use it horizontally or at a downward angle so you also can't use it to cheese verticality.

[verbal crypt]

Don’t let the Reddit folks catch wind of that lmao

I think the children yearn for Titanfall 3 tbh

[feral garden]

People say "Skill based movement" but what they really mean is they want to be able to combat dive and slide prone around corners while pre-firing with the fastest RPM AR in the game.

"Just get good and learn to do it yourself"

Yeah, id say no to these kinds of requests

[mossy marten]

Man bf4 airstrafing would be so fun to have back

Bfv movement + airstrafes would be especially great

[tepid plinth]

Most game movement isn’t hard to perform, true, but the simplicity of it and the existence of it allows for the more one on one and actual tense engagements which is what I feel the point of having movement in the first place

[feral garden]

All well and good til it turns into Battlefield on ice 😛

[tepid plinth]

Strictly Come Bunnyhopping

[minor linden]

I wouldn't mind "skill based movement" if crossplay was off by default

From what I've seen, PC has a major advantage in fast movement systems so Console players automatically have a worse experience

[mossy marten]

Other than lockers/metro 24/7 on bf4
The avg BF player on MnK is about the same or slightly worse than controller players...

[minor linden]

You could probably play locker and metro on a dance dance revolution pad lol

[tepid plinth]

In games where I care about competing with others I’ll do whatever I can to turn crossplay off and whatever input based matchmaking system exists on

[tepid plinth]

Also please tell me someone else here knows this show so this wasn’t wasted

[feral garden]

I got it, dw 😂

[tall urchin]

Literal definition of skill issue. Just learn it or learn to counter it.

[feral garden]

Yeah yeah we know your type.

[tall urchin]

I'm pretty sure I'd get burned at the stake for that

[feral garden]

Wants skill based movement, but is 10000% against skill based match making.

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are-gif-4332896312672829230

[minor linden]

When people complain about SBMM, 99% of the time they mean harsh SBMM like CoD or DF. Normal SBMM has been integrated into a lot of games for a while and is basically invisible

[feral garden]

You know what I mean by the above. They want mega high skill movement, but don't want to play against only those who also use said high skill movement.

[minor linden]

I actually didn't lol. So you are basically calling him a pub stomper

[feral garden]

Yes, that's what they want.

Anyone against their wishes is lacking skill and should get better. Like they said, just learn to do it or learn to counter it. Like there is any real way to counter someone prone, air or crouch strafing you around a corner👍

[mossy marten]

I don't like sbmm because it's godawful algorithm makes it impossible to play with friends of different skill levels

[feral garden]

BFs squad and player join functions basically make SBMM irrelevant.

[oak condor]

air strafing is not an exploit and not particularly difficult

[tall urchin]

Modern EOMM in public playlists? Yeah, I don't feel like being forced to tryhard every single match just because someone less skilled doesn't want to get stomped but still wants to play a multiplayer game. Ranked ladder exists to play in your skill range.

Skilled players like having fun in FPS same as anyone else, and don't care about losing to better players either.

[feral garden]

The last thing we want is players with equal footing right. 👍

[tall urchin]

Modern EOMM is not about equal footing

[feral garden]

Need to be able to stomp dem n00bs.

[oak condor]

this shitty dishonest argument is why marathon (2025) has soft aimbot on the mouse

[tall urchin]

And again, the whole purpose of ranked ladder fulfills that

[feral garden]

Like you'd touch ranked play with SBMM of there is another option to get easy kills on n00bs. You just said above that's the last thing you want.

[tall urchin]

Casuals will rip every aspect out of gaming just so they can keep their egos even if it ruins it for the legitimate fans

[feral garden]

Lol this guy

It's a video game dude. I just want it to be fun for more than the ultra sweats.

[minor linden]

Tbf, bf matches have so many players that 1 pub stomper rarely ever matters

[tall urchin]

I played ranked ladder in games with EOMM more than pubs specifically because it's exhausting only playing optimally 24/7. Sometimes I want to run sub optimal guns or just play and chill with friends who aren't as good as me and don't belong to get trounced by the top 1% players just because they queued with me

[weak obsidian]

tbf man like Battlefield always been pretty casual

[tall urchin]

But I know playing with less skilled friends with egregious matchmaking you can't understand because you'd actually need someone to like you

[feral garden]

You know they have lost it when they start insulting you. 👍

[minor linden]

Insulting makes your argument look bad no matter how right you are

[tall urchin]

Yes you've literally never done that or been disingenuous putting words in my mouth lol

Such a fucking hypocrite

[feral garden]

Give an example.

[weak obsidian]

this Battlefield shit get serious get ready to die behind it

[verbal crypt]

I’ve said it a million times before, I’m just as casual as you and the other “noobs”. I work 45 hour weeks, I have hobbies, I have side hustles, I play for MAYBE 7 hours a week. Just because I’m a high KD player, that doesn’t make me a sweat and it’s not fair that my entire gaming experience is vastly different. I’m also a casual, I shouldn’t be only going against the best players night in and night out just cause I’m a more talented casual.

That’s my take on SBMM, I’ve never been a big fan cause it’s usually implemented terribly

[mossy marten]

nodders

[oak condor]

you want easy lobbies where you never see people better than you, whats the difference

[tall urchin]

Exactly, it makes wins feel awful because you get a lobby you're not supposed to lose and then you're forced to play 100% again until the game thinks you'll stop playing

Corrupted system that ruins wins and losses

[feral garden]

I don't want easy lobbies or care about hard lobbies.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oak condor]

so why are we discussing this instead of throwing everyone into a mixed skill pool

[tall urchin]

Then guess what, random matchmaking will deliver that

[feral garden]

Also dont care about KD or Spm

[tall urchin]

I wouldn't either if I was you

[feral garden]

Back to insults is it. Good good. 👍

[tall urchin]

Nah, you said it

I'm just agreeing

[feral garden]

This conversation isn't even about SBMM. I just made an expression that you want high skill movement, but only of you aren't made play against high skill players.

I don't want SBMM either lol

[tall urchin]

Which was disingenuous because I didn't say I didn't want to play against skilled players

And I often do

[oak condor]

oh i see, you can't do it so you don't want other people to be able to do it either

got it

and it's easy shit like moving your camera in the direction of your jump that you're intentionally conflating with zouzou etc

[feral garden]

I don't even want crazy slow or basic movement. Just something akin to a more refined bfv.

[oak condor]

yeah you want it railroaded for you by the game so you don't have to learn anything

good talk

[feral garden]

Not even slightly, and I can tell you've not read the conversation

[oak condor]

i mean you can wrap it in any wording you like but that's where this is going

i've seen too many reddit kids doing the same thing

[feral garden]

No, it's not. But I don't want to waste time to try change your opinion.

[verbal crypt]

As long as it feels like how it’s always felt I’ll be happy. Some matches will be easy (that’s fine) and others will be a tough battle (also great). I want to be able to play with my friends and get random matchmaking like always.

[oak condor]

you're trying to externalize it to little timmy two thumbs on the xbox but he should also probably learn the game he plays for 100s of hours

[feral garden]

Yes, he should. I never said players shouldn't learn, or that the game should be dumbed down to suit its weakest link. I just don't want BF to be created to play optimally like how COD or Apex plays.

[oak condor]

any pvp game will trend towards optimization as people try to get better and forcing ignorance doesn't work

[minor linden]

One of the bigger things I have against SBMM is the downsweep dread. If you're dominating a match, you already know that the next game is boutta send you straight to the 24/7 never-log-off sweats

[lusty arrow]

What’s the context/story of upcoming BF6?

[mossy marten]

Modern Era
Nato vs Country Coalition of something
Otherwise

[feral garden]

No one knows. NATO vs PMC is about as much info we have. But no clue about how a campaign will pan out.

[lusty arrow]

Battlefield having sbmm would be actually be cheeks

[oak condor]

forcing ignorance kinda works i guess, SBMM has probably created some absolute creatures

[minor linden]

DF is basically just 2042 with SBMM

so there's a good look at what it does

[lusty arrow]

Dice needs to make a comeback with this game or uh

[dense creek]

it's gonna be NATO vs Nationalist Europe (which is weird because you would assume that nationalists wouldn't team up with others but I digress)

[lusty arrow]

I don’t mean to sound all pessimistic, but I think battlefield as a series might lose its Mojo completely

[weak obsidian]

it can't be as bad 2042 lol

[lusty arrow]

2042 really left a sour taste in our mouths

[weak obsidian]

the Labs stuff already looks leagues better

[verbal crypt]

Last time I played DF I had 4+ minute queues and saw the same 30-40 names every match lol

[tall urchin]

The only time I got queued quickly and had pings under 100ms was when I was due for a 100 bomb steamroll. After that it was just top players, cheaters, and Luna arrow spam.

[lusty arrow]

I have not tried out labs yet

[weak obsidian]

2042 is rock bottom, it can't get much worse than that

[oak condor]

don't tempt fate, we said this after bf5

[verbal crypt]

Yep literal cancer lol

[lusty arrow]

It’s a damn disgrace to the battlefield formula

[minor linden]

If they somehow make it worse than 2042, DICE itself could be shuttered

They basically only make BF

[lusty arrow]

In retrospect, can BF5 be regarded as not as bad?

[oak condor]

the existence of something worse does not make the old bad suddenly good

do not lower your standards

[lusty arrow]

It happens with call of duty, but there’s some sort of weird phenomenon where we look at games differently because of a worst version that comes out

[lusty arrow]

Yeah, I don’t know what you call that phenomenon

[minor linden]

Neither have 99% of us. You have to be one of the like 10k invited out of the 1.3 million people who signed up

[tall urchin]

BF6 has working mouse input
BF6 has AA on M&K

[weak obsidian]

just sayin but I thought 2042 was gonna be dogwater as soon as they announced specialists

I don't know how people fell for it after the open beta as well

[minor linden]

I really wanna know why they thought adding heroes to one of the original class shooters was a good idea

[lusty arrow]

I luv BF 1 & 4, my favorite out of the series

I tried the other games, but not in a substantial amount of time to appreciate them I guess

Only reason why I played 2042 is because of portal

[tall urchin]

Just the modern FPS industry, add shit like wall hack "abilities" and other shit to remove skill gaps so bad players can get an edge.

[oak condor]

the game was assumed to be just hazard zone for at least 2/3 of the dev time which probably had something to do with it

[minor linden]

Bf4 is my favorite overall but HL is my favorite in terms of gamemodes and gunplay

[weak obsidian]

leftovers from the battle royale iteration of the game

[minor linden]

Sad that it's 6 feet under now

[lusty arrow]

I especially love battlefield one mostly because I’m a history nerd

I’ve been having a World War I game itch recently

[lusty arrow]

[tall urchin]

FPS has leaned into extraction shooters/BRs, RAA, and hero abilities all for the sake of reducing skill gaps and retaining casual players. It's why a modern arena FPS would die instantly even if they made movement tech more accessible through reduced skill investment and timing to execute

[lusty arrow]

2042 just derailed Battlefield of what it was

[weak obsidian]

Covid fucked up the games industry

[minor linden]

V was the derailment. 2042 was the rookie engineers trying to turn the train into a boat

V cost Dice a lot of the original devs

[lusty arrow]

Feels like that, what are some examples tho?

[lusty arrow]

😔

[weak obsidian]

TES6 was supposed to release last year

[lusty arrow]

DICE already messed up two times with battlefield five & Battlefield 2042

They better not mess up with battlefield six

Three strikes and you’re out

[weak obsidian]

BFV is cool

[lusty arrow]

Yeah, in retrospect it wasn’t as bad, but eh

[weak obsidian]

but I wasn't there for launch

so uhhhh

[lusty arrow]

Somebody said it earlier but just because of a worse project releasing doesn’t exactly make it better

[tall urchin]

I can only hope the reception of Oblivion remastered lets BGS reconsider some of their modern development choices

[lusty arrow]

I only hopped on battlefield post peak so

[weak obsidian]

I enjoy the lack of 3D spot spam

[lusty arrow]

Damn man, I missed out

[minor linden]

Y'know, I wonder what they're actually going to name it

Some people are calling it BF6 while others are calling it BF2025. Some are even calling it BF7

[weak obsidian]

Tom Henderson said it's either Battlefield or Battlefield 6

[tall urchin]

BF: Well Ahead of Schedule

[weak obsidian]

EA are surverying what one people like better

[minor linden]

I hope it's just "Battlefield" so we can screw up the number order even more

[lusty arrow]

Censor that shit

It’s giving me flashbacks 😢

[weak obsidian]

great everyone is just gonna call it BF2025

[minor linden]

"Hey, what game are you playing"

"Battlefield"

"Which one?"

"Battlefield"

[weak obsidian]

"oh yeah dude like the new one"

[lusty arrow]

That’s like Windows 10 lol

[weak obsidian]

they better not screw this up, that gameplay reveal of TES6 will be crazy

I didn't expect everyone to get so hyped over the Oblivion remaster

[lusty arrow]

All I know is that the horse armor was added as a bit of a cheeky reference lol

The horse armor had disastrous consequences

[weak obsidian]

keeping all dialogue mistakes is cute

[glad trench]

except BFV wasn't bad

[minor linden]

Good game, bad marketing

[lusty arrow]

I love the Pacific theater expansion trailer

If the game was marketed as that, holy shit, it would’ve done numbers

[oak condor]

player visibility (never fixed)? 5-13 btk fg42?

spread-to-recoil (pure evil)?

[glad trench]

We can all list a dozen dumb things that exist in every BF game that would make it look bad

[oak condor]

dude i am listing things that you run into during every single player vs player interaction

5-13 fg42 can be generalized out to patch 5.2

[glad trench]

ya and BF3/4/1 all had different dumb shit that you run into every player vs player interaction

[weak obsidian]

it's not that bad

[lusty arrow]

Battlefield three was also cool, I only really played the campaign because servers are basically down for the Xbox 360 edition that is available

Or at least I can almost never get into lobbies

[tall urchin]

It's honestly the first remaster I actually care about because it isn't just a small fidelity bump of a game from 4 years ago and retains all the gameplay design philosophies and game logic, but also looks to iron out the things people have come to fix over the years through mods.

A proper remaster should be a time capsule so it shows new players what games used to and could be, and allows nostalgic fans a chance to recapture their original admiration for it

[weak obsidian]

they should've done like Halo Anniversary graphics toggle

would be cool

I'm just surprised because I felt like they lost all motion when Starfield released

[lusty arrow]

generational comeback?

[weak obsidian]

I guess in the end, everyone loves the Todd...

[glad trench]

I remember WoW Classic back in 2019. screenshots and memories from back in the day don't do it justice on how jank it looked

[tall urchin]

Starfield was very much Fallout 4 for me. Yeah you have a lot of gameplay additions that are in of themselves a game, but when you get back to the core experience there's just nothing of substance there. Ship building is cool, base building is fine, radiant stuff is fine, but if the world feels empty, character interaction pointless, and exploration or quests are a chore then why do you think anyone would stay?

[weak obsidian]

it's a shame they gutted the space gameplay

it's not even a good sandbox like 4

[lusty arrow]

Starfield always reminds me of the other space game

[minor linden]

Just rewatched it. Yeah, it would've done so much better had the original game been advertised like the Pacific Theater expansion

The original trailer doesn't even have background music for 90% of it

[glad trench]

and if the Devs would've just ignored the gamergate army

rather than trying to reason with those idiots

[weak obsidian]

the weird first person part with the MG42 always make me giggle

[weak obsidian]

no mans sky sucks!!@!!

[minor linden]

It is a bit weird. They manage to hit a surprising amount of shots for never aiming

[lusty arrow]

no

Talking about the other other game

Also known as the game that got Chris Robert his million dollar mansion in California (allegedly)

Star citizen will never be released

Biggest victim of feature creep ever

Or it’s possibly the greatest video game scam ever

[weak obsidian]

reminds me of that E3 2014 Siege trailer

[weak obsidian]

arghhhhh I love my virtual spaceships tho...........

[lusty arrow]

It makes me seeth and actually feel so much remorse for people who have blown hundreds of dollars on virtual spaceships

[minor linden]

I'd honestly argue that the 1942 trailer is better than V's trailer

It at least has music that makes you semi-hyped for the game

[lusty arrow]

At this point, I am praying on the games downfall and if it does end up being a scam…

remember me lol

[lusty arrow]

Just kind of sad

Chris Roberts got kicked off of a game that he was making years ago because he just could not get his deadline right

[weak obsidian]

me 🙋‍♂️

[lusty arrow]

Microsoft had to step in and actually manage the project properly to be released

[queen anchor]

Bro

[lusty arrow]

[queen anchor]

When are they letting us play

Wtf

[slow ridge]

Preciso de ajuda

[weak obsidian]

don't worry I know what I'm getting myself into

[slow ridge]

Quando vou entrar no modo online manda eu ativar os recursos online

[weak obsidian]

I'm not as deep into the sauce as some other people I know

I just wish they made a good space sim for once

[lusty arrow]

yeh

SC’s fans has basically sprouted into one branch being a freaking cult

[slow ridge]

You speck português

[lusty arrow]

I want to believe that it’s gonna be a great game but at some point you need to freaking real back your features and focus on getting a working project before adding all of the crap you want

The game is a horrible victim of feature creep where Chris Roberts is pumping out a bunch of new features while the basebgame is barely playable

[lusty arrow]

no

[slow ridge]

😢

[weak obsidian]

I love when my ship disappears for no reason

[lusty arrow]

Chris Roberts has had a past history of kind of bad at meeting deadlines and stuff like that

[slow ridge]

I ned help in battlefild 1

[lusty arrow]

lul

[weak obsidian]

I need Elite Dangerous to lock in

[lusty arrow]

lol

Maybe you can put your star citizen account in your will for your grandchildren

[weak obsidian]

yeah they can have my prized F8C Lightning

[slow ridge]

[lusty arrow]

I just got BF1 and I’m planning to get back on the grind

I posted a clip in the clip channel

[minor linden]

What do you even do in star citizen? Like, is there random missions or what

[slow ridge]

I ned talking to adm

[lusty arrow]

It’s basically a massive RPG game

With a progressive world and stuff like that

Explain the game with obviously take a while to do so there are videos and stuff like that on this

[minor linden]

So kinda like EVE?

[lusty arrow]

Eh

[weak obsidian]

space life sim

rn you just run missions

[lusty arrow]

Yeah, it’s supposed to be super immersive which

[minor linden]

But with the ability to get out of your ship

[weak obsidian]

yeah

[lusty arrow]

That can be debated on if it really should be the priority then just making a game for now

Again, I want to believe that the game is going to be good/release

I just view the game and actually Chris Roberts himself with a bit of mistrust with his handling of the project rn

[weak obsidian]

Squadron 42 2026 is the biggest cap

[lusty arrow]

If Chris Roberts getting kicked off of the project like his Freelancer game, is the best situation for star citizen to be released?

It’s probably the best course of action

I said this earlier, but Chris Roberts kinda has a spotty history with getting games on time/his other work

I don’t hate the game

I just hate how it’s handled

[minor linden]

Been watching the old BF trailers. When do you guys think the BF6 announcement trailer will happen?

My bets are on the Summer Game Fest

[lusty arrow]

yes

That would be nice

[weak obsidian]

same

frickin master modes 💀

[weak obsidian]

reveal trailer late May or early June

gameplay trailer at the Xbox event or whatever

[minor linden]

The Summer Game Fest is June 6th so yeah

[weak obsidian]

they usually do their own reveals tho

but who knows this year

[glad trench]

Is EA not doing their own showcase stream?

In June when everyone info dumps what they have coming up

[minor linden]

idk. They could

[nimble bridge]

I am downloading it rn 😛

[nimble bridge]

2042's bhopping is fun

[weak obsidian]

I'd rather it not be in the next game

it looks goofy

[feral garden]

Disagree, but to each their own (to it being fun)

[nimble bridge]

It's pretty useful to cross huge distances while a heli is trying to kill me

[weak obsidian]

just tac sprint !

JK

[nimble bridge]

Tac sprinting is predictable, so is bhopping but it still makes me a harder target to shoot

[feral garden]

the solution in reality is not to have terrible maps

Not to have bunny hopping to fix this

[nimble bridge]

Well BF3 had gazelle jumping which worked similar

[weak obsidian]

inb4 Labs feedback gets them to nerf it back to BF1 movement

[nimble bridge]

If you chained jumps while running you were gaining speed

[feral garden]

This shit as seen at the start, is the last thing I want to see in another BF game

https://youtu.be/QeuU7TAhOPk?si=o6pmviXrUN3vwz6y

[nimble bridge]

Looks perfectly fine

[weak obsidian]

that shit should instantly kill you lol

[versed token]

That's only possible with Mackay

[nimble bridge]

Not possible anymore too

They nerfed it hard

[versed token]

Haven't tried it in awhile but i think you can still do it

[nimble bridge]

You can, but distance and speed is nerfed

[feral garden]

Thats not true, you can slide jump hop chain even without mackays hook

[weak obsidian]

god that looks goofy

[feral garden]

Im fine with it being a possibility via movement/input skill, just not to allow it to repeatedly chain like seen above. There should be some kind of cooldown on such movements

You also shouldnt be able to accurately shoot while doing it, so the counter to such a movement is good aim/better position/cover

[weak obsidian]

agreed

being able to shoot with accuracy while jumping is dumb

[versed token]

How old is that clip cause i swear you get massively slowed down now

[tepid plinth]

Honestly I like the bhop in this game

Guess I’m an oddity

[feral garden]

Its still very much possible. Im just shit at doing it (Cos I only looked at the inputs required 45 seconds ago lol)

Read what you were sent and dont break your NDA

No one here knows what you need to do, we are not testers, were not chosen, and even if we were....we cant talk about it here.

[carmine elk]

Test date's coming up and I’m still clueless. Might miss out on this chance, kinda freaking out a bit

[calm seal]

Can you not get into the secret discord and ask them?

[feral garden]

No one here knows what you need to do, we are not testers, were not chosen, and even if we were....we cant talk about it here

[feral garden]

Better example. Basically as long as you dont give the game directional input, you can still chain 3 hops > slide > chain some more. It does seem lesser than the Mackay clip above, but you can still do 4/5 hops and cross decent distances in the current game version

[carmine elk]

I know, I’ve tried everything but hit a dead end. No replies to my emails either, so now I’m here begging for help.

[tepid plinth]

can beg all you like but we can't help

[feral garden]

Maybe check the ea playtesting site for more info.

[carmine elk]

Okay, thank you

[feral garden]

I believe this is the link https://ea.arcsivr.com/Portal/home

[tepid plinth]

yeah they even buffed the bhops several years into the game's life

they nerfed it then buffed it again

[nimble bridge]

You can do it like twice now, without mackay grapple or an elevation

You could chain 5-6 jumps before

From neutral ground

[frail kraken]

Do not mix deathmatch and domination keep deathmatch by itself

[versed token]

Anything past 2 jumps is borderline useless

Have to merge playlists when there's too few players in them

[feral garden]

You can still do 3/4 hops, and chain with another slide. As can be seen here

#screenshots-and-clips message

[nimble bridge]

Well you lose momentum

[nimble bridge]

Looks nothing like this video

[feral garden]

Because they didnt do a slide hold after the 3rd jump

And the comment was to say that you can do it even without using mackay, which you can

TLDR: What I was trying to say here is you can still bunny hop, and bunny hop with characters other than Mackay. I was trying to make no other point.

[scenic hatch]

can we get a Bunny skin for the shop? KEKW

[mossy marten]

The multiple jump chaining that the focus clip shows isn't useful for any gunfights and only for traversing

[tepid plinth]

not true

it has good uses in combat

I've shared clips of me using it

although the most success has come from using it with a sniper as it fits the rechambering time pretty well

[mossy marten]

The clip that shows focus doing the "bhop reset with slide" is not useful for combat
The "bhop" with the first 3 jumps is useful (honestly only first 2, be ause the 3rd you stop in your tracks)

[tepid plinth]

bhop reset, sure

i get ya

[calm seal]

This may just be a persistant server thing, but I'm hoping we'll be able to play remastered maps in official dice servers with exp (assuming you need exp), rather than portal only. Since portal may have 25 maps. It sucked that 2042 launched with 7 maps but had 14 more, but only at the whim of player mods and no exp.

[mossy marten]

Ummm
Portal in 2042 only has 6 remastered maps

[calm seal]

really 😮 tbf I never went in it but I thought it had lots more

but bf6 may get the ones from 2042 base game and what was in portal

so it could have 21 maps >.>

[feral garden]

Wishful (Unrealistic) thinking

[mossy marten]

i highly doubt they will bring back 2042 maps
I wouldn't want them back in any BF game (except maybe spearhead or redacted)

[minor linden]

Maybe the newer ones, but the original base 2042 maps need to stay in 2042

[feral garden]

I believe they mean the portal maps included in 2042 base. But I cant see that happening either.

[minor linden]

They’d need to completely redo the maps anyways so why not just make new ones or bring back og maps

[calm seal]

lol fair enough, maybe portal is just the player owned servers bit then, I had assumed it was also about filling out content from the past games, but yea I confused 7+6 in portal vs 7 in AOW with 13 new ones.

[mossy marten]

either way
I think the portal remastered maps should be in the base game anyways

[feral garden]

Give us remakes of some older maps like Gulf Of Oman, I dare you DICE! 😛

[mossy marten]

ewww

oman?

of all maps?

[feral garden]

Yes, one of my favorites. That or Sharqai Peninsula

[minor linden]

I really wish they would just rebrand portal into “community servers” and get rid of the old game content theme

Getting to see older games half redone is kinda cool, but I feel like nobody actually cared after a few months and just used portal as an off brand milsim or exp farm

[feral garden]

They did, right at the start of 2042

Outside of some additional vehicles or weapons., there was never any promise to expand upon the past game content.

[minor linden]

Yeah, I guess that is true

[stiff wagon]

I have a question 🤔

Let's say someone plays a Battlefield test on console, And that he linked his account to Discord and it shows what he's playing

[feral garden]

It wont be

[stiff wagon]

Should we remove it or is it okay?

[feral garden]

AFAIK, the only way to get discord rich presense to show BF Labs as active, is to set a custom game yourself. If youre doing that, youve kinda answered your own question.

[stiff wagon]

I just ask if i need to remove that or no...

[versed token]

And he answered you

[dire spade]

Good afternoon squad

[mossy marten]

If you received an invite from labs, there will be more information there
If no invite, no play

[minor linden]

It’s a closed test

[versed token]

Imagine breaking NDA

Bye bye account

[mossy marten]

Some people don't read 🤷‍♂️

[golden vortex]

Read the mail. Especially the part about the NDA.

[mossy marten]

DJ Khaled voice: "Anotha One"

[glad trench]

@verbal crypt in the marathon alpha, was it taking awhile for items to load in the caches/boxes

[verbal crypt]

I only played for about an hour yesterday but yes I encountered that a few times

[glad trench]

Aight, good, it’s not my shitty pc lol

[severe anvil]

People make mistakes, not everybody knows all the tech. No need to be rude. Thanks.

[dire spade]

Cheers it's downloading now I can't wait

[glad trench]

Disregard BFLabs, buy a ticket to the Pink Floyd in Pompeii IMAX remaster. Take enough psychedelics that would make a submarine fly. Profit

[verbal crypt]

WTF lmao😭

[glad trench]

Nah fr, if you’re a Pink Floyd fan, check the theaters in your area

[verbal crypt]

I saw Interstellar in IMAX for its 10 year anniversary and let me tell you I was Geekin lol

[glad trench]

Me and the homies smuggling in hella chimichangas into the dune 2 imax premier

[feral garden]

Not a question for here...as you are under NDA for that info

but I would assume yes 😄

[verbal crypt]

Burrito bandits

[feral garden]

(I would also delete that question)

[restive pier]

I don't know where to ask and I'm not sharing anything personal.

[feral garden]

Yeah I know. Im just saying us normies are not privy to what is/isnt covered under the blanket NDA

Better safe than sorry 😄

[feral garden]

This is the wrong server/place for this type of inquiry

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-these-are-not-the-droids-star-wars-jedi-mind-trick-gif-23067514

[tepid plinth]

What I would give to be under nda

[verbal crypt]

Why is it always Xbox players where are my Pc homies at

Unless it’s Xbox only rn lol

[mossy marten]

Its all platforms

[verbal crypt]

Interestinggg lol

[mossy marten]

Cuz otherwise why would they post and pin the Labs PC specs in this channel

[verbal crypt]

I knew pc would be involved at some point I just thought it was only Xbox to start and they were doing it in platform waves lol

Every person that’s come in here that got an invite has been Xbox that I’ve seen it’s like 12/12 so far 🤣

[mossy marten]

accept the FR 😭

[feral garden]

PC players know how to read emails.

[verbal crypt]

Lmfao😭

[verbal crypt]

Just did my bad was working lol

[verbal crypt]

The music in Clair Obscur is fuckin insane top top tier

[vague grove]

I've always wanted a melee option that's just smacking the opponent upside the head with your gun

Or even going bare-handed

[half halo]

The game is crazy good!!! Made by 30 people also!

[verbal crypt]

They deserve all the praise

[tepid plinth]

You heard

[turbid coral]

I just signed my life away now what?

Hey y'all how do i start

I guess we wait

[potent comet]

I just signed up for labs I've been playing since bad company 2 lol but nowadays since 2042 is okay but the player count is so low i just play marvel rivals and fornite with the wife hoping the game can get that nostalgia back with the next release

[red wren]

Anyone know what happened to team swap options? A custom server I was hosting no longer has the option and when going into portal it's not longer an option in gameplay modifiers.