battlefield-labs-discussion

[ebon beacon]

Darn... hope it's good at least

[fleet robin]

shouldn't be in something like labs though, they'd be stupid to do that

[smoky pike]

I want soo badly to test the shit out of this lol

[tepid plinth]

yeah definitely not labs, keep it to in-house testing

[balmy turret]

i really wish they'd stop making battlefield campaigns, and instead dump the development money into making the multiplayer even better

if Battlefield 4 never had guns unlocked at the very end of the campaign, I never would've bothered with it

Glad they didn't lock the UCAV behind the campaign though

[fleet robin]

2042:

[young jetty]

They did that with 2042 and looked how that turned out

[mossy marten]

yes, good argument

[fleet robin]

campaigns are good and fun and a part of battlefield, i'm glad they're sticking with them

[balmy turret]

that was a special circumstance what with covid worldwide messing things up

[young jetty]

AND IT NEEDS TO BE LINEAR

[mossy marten]

[fleet robin]

people do still enjoy them as well, otherwise dice wouldn't bother

[balmy turret]

idk look how successful Battlefield 2/2142 was

zero campaign

[fleet robin]

look at how successful bf3, 4, 1, V were

all campaigns

[balmy turret]

true

but look at feature parity to BF2

took us until 4 to get most of the features back

[young jetty]

We don’t talk about BFV

[balmy turret]

MOST

[fleet robin]

yeah ngl i didn't play bf2 so i can't say anything about it

[pallid coral]

BFV was really fun for me

i dont like to compare games because i just wanna have fun, but i think bfv was successful imo

[young jetty]

I’m sorry to be that guy but BFV was not successful

[pallid coral]

idc bro 😭 it was super fun

[young jetty]

If you liked you liked it but from a general standpoint the game flopped terribly.

[pallid coral]

if ur talking about campaign then yes

i guess ur success criteria is different from the rest, probs cuz ur comparing to bf3/4

[young jetty]

The entire package

[pallid coral]

im not gonna argue about this cuz its just a useless conv

theres no success criteria here, so it's just a comparison game

[golden cloak]

BFV was fun

[mossy marten]

zooking and sniping were quite fun in bfv, the gunplay......

[covert nest]

I don't think the gunplay was bad but in retrospective it was basic.

[mossy marten]

the spread = recoil + decoupled screen center reticle was quite annoying

[glacial orchid]

BFV pinnacle was at Pacific Theater and everything was fine. Till someone made the decision that the TTK needed to be changed that Christmas. After that went downhill

[quick merlin]

True.

[winter viper]

It was entirely successful until they stopped content after the Pacific update

[winter viper]

Which would be a horrible comparison as BF4 was a horrid unplayable mess the first year and half before they turned it around

[glacial orchid]

^^

[pallid coral]

it also doesn't really make sense to compare to bf4 which is not only a very old game now but also not designed for the same time lol

i just hate the whole "bf3 bf4 was peak" like sure it was, but you really have to bring that in when comparing anything?

[mossy marten]

@glacial orchid @winter viper the bois?

[pallid coral]

like bro times have changed, people have grown up, and yeah sure bf3 and bf4 were god damn amazing but i dont want a bf4 remaster 😭

[glacial orchid]

😉

[winter viper]

Neither do I, people are just stuck in nostalgia.
What's funny about nostalgia it's never as good as you remember it lol

[mossy marten]

some people haven't played bf3 or bf4 since it stopped being the main game, and it shows

[winter viper]

^ people scared of a slide in game or moving too fast

Turn your FOV to 50, and let everyone else enjoy the game Grandpa

[glacial orchid]

FOV be on like -20 nearsighted hahaha

[young jetty]

I didn’t compare BFV to BF3/4

BFV’s launch was just terrible and it sold less

[glacial orchid]

BFV bad sales in my opinion were because of bad PR lol. Dont buy the game if you dont like it I believe the phrase was

[pallid coral]

Also the launch trailer was definitely something 😂

[feral garden]

Launch trailer was cool as fuck. Issue was they also marketted BFV as an Authentic WW2 game.

[glacial orchid]

I still want that skin where the lady had a hook hand 😂 where is it DICE

[glacial orchid]

the phrase "its WW2 like you never seen before" 😂 yeah nobody saw it like that

[young jetty]

I’m praying on my knees that doesn’t happen again, DICE can NOT afford another controversy.

[heady thorn]

I wouldnt say it was the best reveal trailer tho

[feral garden]

A WW2 game which concentrated on Battles no one knows about sure was a choice.

[pallid coral]

And people wanted BF1 levels of "feeling" (funny enough cuz BF1 was also very very not-WW1 apart from the maps and guns and the feel)

[glacial orchid]

marketing team always does great its the delivery of the game and media response that can kill it

[feral garden]

BF1 felt more like a WW2 shooter. Gear wise.

[pallid coral]

There's no authentic WW battlefield, they're all just made to feel like you're in war while adding unrealistic features becuase its a game, yet people still get angry when a BF game is unrealistic or not on par with the theme

But yeah EA fucked up advertising BFV as a WW2 shooter when they wanted to put a huge spin on it

[glacial orchid]

theres not enough PTSD that my grandpa experienced!! give it to me!! 😂

[stark wadi]

Hey so is there no registration confirmation email?

[feral garden]

They do send them, just not immediately

[stark wadi]

Oh ok. Ty

[glacial orchid]

think mine was about a day or 2 on my confirmation

[pallid coral]

i signed up too early so i didnt even get one 😭

[young jetty]

Weird take but ok

[stark wadi]

Yeah I thought that too

[feral garden]

WW1 didnt have full auto SMGs and rifles

[pallid coral]

they wanted to make the game actually fun unlike what it would be with just standard ww1 games which is why they added all those experimental never used in ww1 weapons in the game

[mossy marten]

It'd be also really boring to have only bolt actions and shotguns

[feral garden]

there were like 2 semi auto rifles that started entering use near the end of the war, but those never saw combat use in that war

[pallid coral]

an authentic ww1 game would just be u with a flare and a bolt action or semi auto at best

[young jetty]

Battlefield is not a milsim

[pallid coral]

have fun with that "but i want 100 weapons day 1"

[glacial orchid]

the Tommy gun didnt see action you are correct on that

[feral garden]

Yes, im fine with what BF1 is, never had a problem. But its factually true that its not WW1 accurate haha

[pallid coral]

you're just proving the point then 😂

[stark wadi]

Villar Perosa and the German MP18 were ww1 smgs

[fleet robin]

some people here think differently lmao

[feral garden]

Bro, i dont care what BF is or isnt...i just want good games

[pallid coral]

the whole point we're making is the BF was never about historical accuracy, yeah some guns were definitely historically accurately detailed but the game itself was never designed that way

[feral garden]

Creative libertys are totally fine to take.

[young jetty]

Some people actually think that battlefield has somewhat always been a realistic shooter 😂

[fleet robin]

it's always funny seeing them have an issue with realism in bfv but not bf1

[clear viper]

True its kinda just hypocritical

[glacial orchid]

BF1 realism would be getting diseases in trench warfare like Influenza, Venereal and Dysentery

[young jetty]

Do you guys care for an PMC group as a faction or a country like Russia, China, North Korea, etc as a faction?

[feral garden]

Dont care, just want good maps, gear and balance

[glacial orchid]

just no more Notepads 😭

[feral garden]

Me firing an RPG at a pursuing jet: "Hmm, but would this have happened in lore?"

[young jetty]

It’s not gonna change it’s already set stage for the campaign

[feral garden]

PMC is probably the coolest, most varied thing they can give us. Same with NATO

No limits to what gear the sides can use

[young jetty]

If they can make a feared, dangerous, and violent PMC group and basically do WW3 between the 2 factions (something Activision doesn’t have the balls to do) then 10/10 story and campaign.

[tacit forge]

I wish we could get CSTO but game companies don’t wanna take risks getting their games banned

[noble drum]

How many invites they usually send out per day?

[mossy marten]

We don't know

Also most likely not daily, but sent before a session

[coral siren]

[feral garden]

Invites are probably sent in waves, or batches.

I doubt they are sitting there sending out X amount per day

[tepid dagger]

Applied a while ago and hadn’t gotten one yet

[young jetty]

BRICS would be nice

[mossy marten]

You and 99.9% of people

[tacit forge]

Iirc BRICS is an economic alliance not a military one like NATO is

CSTO is basically what Russia’s version of NATO is

[half halo]

This is the most likely, it's not like there is one guy selecting people out of 1.5m registration.

Probably just an algorithm selecting X amount based on Y parameters, and invites sent

[tacit forge]

But it would basically just be Russia because all the rest are just former Soviet countries

[feral garden]

They put all 1.5m on a big dartboard and throw 50 darts per day.

[half halo]

Sounds like a Nice job, where do I sign Up?

[covert nest]

They use manatees to collect balls with players names.

[surreal cloud]

NATO v PMC was in way earlier leaks, it won't be changed

[sweet flume]

Should just be US vrs Canada

[pallid coral]

Definitely an algorithm

And it's probs not random either

[mossy marten]

puts on tinfoil hat

[pallid coral]

XD i mean it makes sense

[mossy marten]

this is not safe space to theorize conspiracies on labs selection

[pallid coral]

why not ;_;

[shy pilot]

It'd be nice to just have a game with an actual campaign

[mossy marten]

well you are in luck
campaign is confirmed

[shy pilot]

And did they remove the cringe hero crap and return to regular soldiers?

[mossy marten]

yes
watch a couple Yt videos, there's lots of information (also playtest leaks)

[shy pilot]

neat-o

[wild fractal]

The gameplay leaks look insane for being pre-alpha.

[merry vessel]

SIgned up for lab testing when it started. Entered what was required. Haven't heard a thing since. Been playing Battlefield since 1942 release. Have had them all. crickets

[wild fractal]

Feel you. You should've atleast recieved something that you have signed up

[tepid plinth]

Unlikely to, tons of people signed up and very, very few get in

[shy pilot]

I didn't bother because the labs thing is rather gate keepish. 'we want your feedback, now take a number and queue up, the line start's over there, on the other side of the planet'

[tepid plinth]

Not gonna say that time played is irrelevant, but they aren’t necessarily prioritising those who have been playing for ages

[merry vessel]

Even have a couple machine to test with 2080 rtx on one 5080 on the other

[wild fractal]

Yeah no. They went out and said that it doesn't matter if you signed up first or the last minute

[mossy marten]

99.999% (quite literally that number if only a thousand were invited) did not receive an invite

[shy pilot]

That's stupid, we've been playing this franchise longer than most people've been working at dice since the 'old guard' left during BFV and 2042

[nova cloak]

Ok boomer

[mossy marten]

[shy pilot]

I mean hell, I've a platinum tier idea for the perfect blend of arcade and 'realistic' shooter that'd be a blend of Bad Company 2's map and environmental design and destruction, BFV's building mechanics, BF1's gun handling and BF3's vehicle style.

[tepid plinth]

Does make sense to bring in fresh eyes to develop onboarding and tutorialisation systems, but I would also hope the distributions is swayed more towards those who have played often.

But hey, we don’t know their algorithm for determining who gets in. For all we know, 90% of the people playing could be pre bf2 vets, 10% may be post. Or it could be 100% people who have never played bf before. Too much uncertainty to assume anything

[mossy marten]

repectfully, bf1 gunplay sucks lol
bf4/hardline's is better

[shy pilot]

BF4 suffers a tad bit from nostalgia blindness because DICE had to balance the seventh and eighth generation consoles so they were trapped in limbo on '360 but also XBOne' in terms of what they could feasibly do with design.

[merry vessel]

bf3 was my fav

[shy pilot]

BF1 was the more streamlined version of BF4's handling, that and it also helped that it got such a long support cycle and numerous quality of life updates before V came out

[mossy marten]

[shy pilot]

BF4's gunplay although has more variety in attachments and customizability, I'm talking in terms of pure handling, not in terms of tech you could add to the gun.

[mossy marten]

yeah
bf1 gunplay sucks is what i said lol
visual recoil and suppression affecting visual recoil and spread made it awful
oh and the spread system not including suppression was wacky af

[shy pilot]

Fair enough, addendum; Bad Company 2's weapon gunplay and the lack of suppression effects, sniper glint and bullet deviation

[mossy marten]

bad company 2 had bullet spread while firing....

as for the other 2, i don't know since i never played bad company 2

[shy pilot]

At the very least it was after firing for prolonged durations with lmgs and assault rifles, the MG3 with acog and Magnum Bullets was a good example of 'it's broken as hell if you know how to use it'. It was best used in short controlled bursts, like in real life for accurate streams of suppressive fire.

For instance, it had an insanely high fire rate but only 100 rounds and high recoil. It's pure skill to use. If you play the campaign you can use the MG3 with a red dot sight and get a feel for how it handles, it's a lot more realistic than the MG34 or 42 in BFV.

[digital raft]

Bfv movement🙏

[shy pilot]

Honestly, that didn't work becuase sprint sliding didn't fit the gunplay in the slightest. If anything that should be reserved to titanfall.

[mint cobalt]

Okay I need to vent for a bit... fuck all of you, because in my honest opinion, The Specialist were never a bad idea, what was a bad idea was getting rid of the Class System, The Specialist were only hated because they got rid of what made Battlefield unique, if they didn't do that, people would not be complaining about The Specialist other then there crappy in-game quotes, not to mention what could have been a cool opportunity of having returning characters as Specialist like Blackburn from BF3, or the guys from Bad Company 2, I'm only bringing this up now, because I am a little tilted that I can't play as a Specialist Robot in BF2042, and was also hoping BF2042 would bring in the mechs that would have been what led to the Mechs from BF2142, either way that's the ended of my vent fuck all of you

[digital raft]

Cool

[mossy marten]

[shy pilot]

The mechs, and everything else from 2142 was teased in the final fronts DLC of BF4, it's nothing to do with playerbase backlash that they weren't added. That was solely the 'cod/overwatch/fortnite' pandering of the 'specialits' that no one wanted. We buy into battlefield to get away from that. It was a collective breakdown of communication and understanding on every single level of what BF players wanted. Cursing us out because you didn't get your way isn't productive.

In other words, all the precious development time and budget was wasted on skins, characters, and seasonal cosmetics instead of building upon the potential to have a kickass 'pre-sequel' to the events of 2142, where the final dlc of 2042 could've been a teaser to a 2142 remastered or revamped.

Anyways, the weapons handling of BC2 was and still is some of the best in any game I've ever played. It's the perfect blend of arcade and 'realistic' to where anyone could pick it up from cod players to arma people.

[wild fractal]

Bro whaaaaaat. Specialists are hated by like 99% of the BF community

[quick merlin]

Replacing classes is a huge chunk of the backlash, but I reckon a lot of people hated the specialist characters too

[shy pilot]

Ignore it, it's ragebait.

[wild fractal]

Makes sense

[quick merlin]

Especially as it felt like their only purpose was to sell cosmetics

[shy pilot]

felt like? bro it is

Like shit I've no arguments with gun camos but when it's attack of the clones and you want to know who to shoot, in the time it takes for the jank ass engine to render the blue/green dot you're already sniped

[quick merlin]

2042 beta where nobody could tell friend from foe

[shy pilot]

beta? I played it the other day and it still sucked ass like that.

[mint cobalt]

I'm saying the Specialist were only hated because they got rid of what made Battlefield unique, if they just started with what we ended up with, no one would had been complaining about what happen at the beginning

[mossy marten]

🇶 spam

[wild fractal]

True xD

[young jetty]

Ur opinion is not relevant

[wild fractal]

[young jetty]

Specialists ruined battlefield’s identity

[mint cobalt]

that one they could have done what Rainbow Six Siege did

[quick merlin]

The quips and personality didn't go down well either. Even if there were classes on launch, I doubt people would have liked it

[mint cobalt]

of course that would have require more development

[shy pilot]

Let's not sidetrack fellas, we're here to help give feedback. Not infight with trolls

[quick merlin]

I don't think heroes and personality can really work well when you got 128 players on the map

[young jetty]

I swear if DICE takes in these guys as to give feedback for the next game it’s cooked 😂

[wild fractal]

[shy pilot]

Maybe a small quip here or there on occasion would've been more better like in BF4 or 1 'good shot lad!' or 'got that b! tch, nice shot!'

[quick merlin]

Are they bringing back the pilot/tanker class next game?

[mossy marten]

doubt it

[mint cobalt]

I do miss BF3 quips they felt so reall

[wild fractal]

The quips were so cringe man

2042*

[shy pilot]

I mean hell it could've worked if it wasn't bargin bin batman or the chick with the tail of a plain on her face

*plane

[wild fractal]

Good thing they pretty much removed them

[young jetty]

You’re not getting away with your shit takes 😭

[shy pilot]

Why couldn't we just play as the npc fill-in characters

[quick merlin]

Damn, thats upsetting

[wild fractal]

Oh yeah the bots loool

[shy pilot]

that's all they had to do, swap out the hero crap, give us regular soldiers and make the dlc paid content so that way they wouldn't need to rely on the whales buying all the microtransactions to keep the doors open but instead make genuine content drops like in BF1, 4, HL, and 3

[mossy marten]

premium is never coming back
hope yall know that

[quick merlin]

Dlc premium model would never work in current year

[wild fractal]

Sadly we're never getting DLC's again 😦

[young jetty]

2042 was supposed to be an BR

[wild fractal]

THIS!!

[shy pilot]

It's crap on all fronts, they waste time and manpower to develop shit we usually don't want instead of making the game better or expanding with new game modes/ideas. That in turn leads to a loss of money yet again because we're not cod people, we buy into quality game modes, map expansions and the like.

[wild fractal]

The "lore" behind 2042's failure is so important to take into consideration

[shy pilot]

if by 'BR" you mean brainrot then yes

[wild fractal]

AHAHHAHA

[shy pilot]

Honestly it's Biblical, sort of like a golden bull type. worshiping contemporary value rather than true sustinence in wuality and merit.

[young jetty]

Why do you think they removed the 4 classes and replaced it with specialists? Why do you think there was no campaign? Why do you think the maps were so terrible?

[wild fractal]

Exactly

[shy pilot]

I think they didn't think at all.

[wild fractal]

Barren wastelands maps lol

[shy pilot]

Hell YarnHub of all people stand a good chance at replacing Battlefield, they got ex-EA and Sony developers on their teams. AND they're opening up the company to the stockmarket too.

[mint cobalt]

no I am looking back at what could have been best for BF2042 at the time, but now we are on to BF6, and all I can suggest is if BF6 has a terrible launch day for the third time in a row, give the devs proper feedback to improve the game, instead of saying give up or move on to the next one, if there is a next one, a game can break but it isn't permanent

[wild fractal]

There was no hope for 2042 anyways so it didn't matter

[young jetty]

And let me remind you that Lars Gustavsson was the director for 2042 😭

[wild fractal]

By the time they released it, it wasn't even close to finished

[shy pilot]

This is what BFV could've been, and since Yarnhub animates in Unreal and make all their in-video assets in house and with insane detail they already have a vast backlog of content to work withhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ChW8zkxns&pp=ygUHeWFybmh1Yg%3D%3D

[shy pilot]

Imagine lanching a ship without a rudder

No wait, I don't need to. 2042's right there

[wild fractal]

Imagine not having a scoreboard on launch

xD

"Brutal expecations" btw

That guy is still in the feedback section for the next game

[shy pilot]

Imagine not having a server browser to hide the low playercounts

[young jetty]

How tf you went from BC2/BF3/BF1 to 2042? I’m glad that he and the rest of the old leadership got fired

[wild fractal]

True

[shy pilot]

Imagine making the portal mode fucking useless in-house and subsidising more than two thirds of its functionality to yet another fucking website instead of having it all accessible in-game like the platoon emblem creator

[shy pilot]

Pride, hubris and inability to properly adapt, same as the Roma, Byzantine and Ottoman empire

[wild fractal]

Portal 2.0 incoming btw 👀

[shy pilot]

we never even had a 1.0, it was .0000000001.0 at best

[wild fractal]

Hahahah so true

[young jetty]

We have to all be cautious for the next game, they have to show us with gameplay and results.

[wild fractal]

But... we.. already saw it?

[shy pilot]

nothing's been added at all since launch and the downgrade of the sound design is horrible, they're literally the same fucking company! How can they not pull original assets from their files and just upscale them or something or fucking hell better yet, why not decompress the audio so it sounds more realistic

[young jetty]

That was a pre alpha, it’s not the final build

[shy pilot]

Imagine a BC2 house collapsing with the orignal art style and uncompressed sound effects.

[mossy marten]

portal shouldn't be a way to bring old content from old games imho
all content should be in the main game no matter what
portal should just be the customization thingy on the site and server browser/rental/borrowing thing they did for 2042

[wild fractal]

"Decompress the audio so it sounds more realistic" hahahahaha

[shy pilot]

they had to compress audio back then because of how much space it still took up

[wild fractal]

And it was confidence inspiring imho

Ye

Good ol' MP3, I hope the next one has FLAC

[shy pilot]

I've to update the craptop, catch y'all later. have a good one tiger dude

[wild fractal]

The sound design sounded amazing in the leaks tho

[wild fractal]

👋

[young jetty]

Things are subjective to change in a pre alpha, so don’t get your hopes up yet until you and me play the beta.

[wild fractal]

Oh for sure. But as a base and first impressions I am really impressed

And there were many placeholders which is good. It means they are making everything from the ground up

[young jetty]

I hope it’s good cause this is their last shot

I don’t think they can take anymore flops after that

[wild fractal]

*After 2042

Actual last shot

It seems they've had a much bigger budget for this so if it flops. BF as a franchise is dead

[gleaming dagger]

i completlyy agree with this

[mossy marten]

[young jetty]

I mean they had 4 years for this game and it’s after Covid so if this launch is terrible and has minimal content it’s joever.

[wild fractal]

Covid REALLY messed up 2042's development

[mossy marten]

i'm saying in general. Portal should not have content that is only in portal. Everything should be available in the MP and the Portal game editor/"programming" and server "borrowing" should be the only things in Portal 2.0

[wild fractal]

As well as a shitty lead that didn't make the right decisions

[wild fractal]

There are so many reasons why and I think I told you to watch that "Battlefailed 2042" video right?

Or maybe that wasn't you

[young jetty]

Yes I did

[wild fractal]

Yee

[young jetty]

It was sad

[wild fractal]

[wild fractal]

Oh like all the maps and weapons etc?

[mossy marten]

yes
there should not be portal specific stuff, that's only available in portal

[wild fractal]

Well as for maps it makes sense but progression should still be shared across

[young jetty]

So like different factions, maps, weapons etc?

In the base game

[mossy marten]

i'm saying that portal should not have content from old games (they never translate well into the new engine anyway, i.e. bc2 and bf3 stuff in 2042 portal)
use the time and resources to add to the main MP

portal should only be the editor/website thingy and server browser

that's it

[wild fractal]

True. But as for portal it should be more of an incentive to add old BF maps and weapons into the main game but as a seperate server browser or playlist so it doesn't have to blend into the main game

[young jetty]

Well apparently a map editor is gonna be in portal 2.0 so that could be included

[wild fractal]

AI map generator

[mossy marten]

well yeah, that's fine, but like content (guns and maps and vehicles) should not be separated

[wild fractal]

Thats gonna be fire

[wild fractal]

It should, because it wont fit into the campaign or time period of the main game

I don't really wanna get killed by a WW2 outfit wearing soldier running around with an STG

[mossy marten]

that's why i said
"use time and resources to add to the main MP instead"

[wild fractal]

We don't know how they are going to integrate the new portal tho

So it could be totally different from 2042's portal

[quick merlin]

Is there even a new version of portal?

[tepid plinth]

Would be a shame for them to put all this work into the editor and then just ditch it

[wispy dagger]

What

[wild fractal]

Whaaat

[tepid plinth]

I don’t quite see any possible resemblance but ok

[wild fractal]

How would that work

[wispy dagger]

That sounds like straight 🐂💩

[tepid plinth]

So… a server browser?

[mossy marten]

that seems like an ultra stretch

[wispy dagger]

Mini game hub lol

[wild fractal]

No hold on wait

That could work

Server browser you mean then?

[wispy dagger]

None of this is confirmed or talked about

Basically fan fiction at this point

[wild fractal]

It is talked about

But not confirmed

[wispy dagger]

Link it

[quick merlin]

From where?

[wispy dagger]

Source: trust me bro

[wild fractal]

A guy had a comment on a video since september last year and he stated that he saw "MP, Portal and regrettably BR"

He said

[tepid plinth]

Amazing

Harvard sited source

[mossy marten]

i have a feeling "inspired by GTA online" is a stretch

[wild fractal]

I mean yeah

Just a bit of a stretch I guess

[young jetty]

It’s obviously not gonna be exactly inspired by it, but they’re considering it turning into a mini game hub.

[wild fractal]

Can you clarify what you mean by a "mini game hub"

I am a bit confused

Like the menus for selecting servers/maps

[mossy marten]

personally
it doesn't seem like a good idea to make it into a "mini game hub"
it makes it too much like fortnite's whatever it is

[hallow escarp]

when next playtest

[mossy marten]

we not know

[hallow escarp]

im feining for more

[wild fractal]

Could be tomorrow, could be next month we don't know

I mean if someone knows they wont say it anyways

[mossy marten]

unless someone posts it in here anyways while forgetting to read the email fully

[wild fractal]

Already happened I think lol

Pretty sure somone leaked an email some time ago

[young jetty]

Minecraft

[wispy dagger]

It’s gonna be a while I think

[wild fractal]

What is gonna be a while?

[mossy marten]

seen one on twitter for the first test

like bruh

READ the EMAIL

[wild fractal]

Man people are stoopid

[wispy dagger]

The next play test

I think it’ll be a while

[wild fractal]

They are probably doing it regularly tho

[wispy dagger]

Maybe

[wild fractal]

For that sweet sweet feedback

[mossy marten]

it better not be a long while
defeats the purpose of "let's make battlefield great together"

anywho, me go watch HDR YT, cuz colors on OLED pwetty

[wild fractal]

HDR YT

Bro is getting blind before BF6

[mossy marten]

don't run more than 70 brightness

but minecraft with shaders and texture pack are gorgeous

[wild fractal]

I have an Odyssey G9 OLED btw

[young jetty]

Are you guys are alright with portal becoming a mini game hub?

[mossy marten]

i got the MSI360Hz oled (271qrx)

[wild fractal]

Ooh nice

[mossy marten]

i think it's too much chasing trends (trying to follow fortnite and gta online) and could hinder portal (yet again)

[mossy marten]

yes, it's very nice

[wild fractal]

I don't really care, as long as its good

[wild fractal]

I really hate that the G9 is not DP 2.1

So fckn not future proof

[mossy marten]

neither is the msi
but has hdmi 2.1 at least

[young jetty]

I mean those are the two most popular games ever

[wild fractal]

Ye using that rn

[young jetty]

I hope that we can make our own factions tho 🔥

[wild fractal]

But remember what happens when DICE is chasing trends

[mossy marten]

i'm using display port, no dsc, because i don't really need 360hz tbf, so i take the 120hz loss for HDR instead

[young jetty]

As long it’s only with portal then its fine

[wild fractal]

But is DSC really that noticeable?

[mossy marten]

not really afaik, but no HDR when it's enabled

[wild fractal]

Oh yeah nvm

Wait what

I have HDR with my HDMI 2.1 as well as 240hz

With HDMI compression stuff

[mossy marten]

yeah, you can do 240hz with HDR on hdmi 2.1 and display port 1.4a, but if you want 360hz, you gotta give up hdr

[wild fractal]

But I have much more pixels to push

Wtf ok then

Is your panel gen2 or gen3 QD-OLED?

[mossy marten]

idk. for me:
DSC on: 1440p, 360hz, no hdr on both ports
DSC off: 1440p, 240Hz, hdr on both ports

[wild fractal]

Hmm ok

Oh yours is a gen3 btw

[mossy marten]

i didn't know
i just got the recommendation asking Bruhskey

he said the asus 480hz is best, but that the msi is top 3 or 5 (i don't remember exactly)

[wild fractal]

480hz wtf

That is actually not even worth it

[mossy marten]

and to be fair
480hz is a crazy amount in general for me
240hz will be fine as long i get pwetty colors while playing

2042 actually looks good compared to an IPS

[wild fractal]

Have you done the HDR calibration btw?

You can download the tool from microsoft store if not

[mossy marten]

it's calibrated out of the box, but did the "best settings" stuff from monitors unboxed

[wild fractal]

Ye but HDR has to be manually calibrated through windows

It takes 2 min

[mossy marten]

it didn't really do anything

it's essentially the same

[wild fractal]

Hahah yeah doesn't change much

[mossy marten]

I actually just disabled w11 hdr
It looks better using monitor settings than w11 settings

[lost hinge]

Man I know this is a mutual feeling for many but I wish I was in the battlefield labs alpha right now

[quick merlin]

I'm in OCE so i doubt I'll ever get an invite

[covert nest]

We will get tests eventually

[mint cobalt]

~I know Arial Combat in BF3 and BF4 were amazing, I feel as though DICE should take inspiration from the Ace Combat Series and let players go nuts with Jet combat~ d(-v-

[cyan swallow]

I’ve been playing Battlefield for a decade and I still struggle to fly a jet

[quick merlin]

I can hold my own, well enough to quickly smack the attack jet farming our spawn

But if he's got a sweat in the stealth jet protecting him, gg

[plain bluff]

hoping for another labs blog today

[plain bluff]

this poster is insane

[twin fractal]

Would've happened like 40 minutes ago

[scarlet sundial]

Bf2042 jets are easier than bf3 jets

If you struggle with the current jets

You can't fly bf3 jets

[celest forge]

I hope jets dont become a thing in the new game. They are too arcady for my liking and maps need be huge as well. Just focus on ifv and tanks with a little bird or attack chopper. Smaller scale, tighter maps like bc2.

So far the game looks fantastic. Combat looks more grounded with tight combat and the map reminds of grand bazaar.

[nova inlet]

my brother used to be an infantry player… then he got one kill in a jet and was never on foot again unless he could make an emergency landing to repair

but nevertheless jets gotta stay theyre only a nuisance usually when youre actively fighting them from my experience from all the past bfs (except 1) jets/planes werent usually an issue aslong as you werent in the air or on the AA

bf1 they were a nuisance on infantry too but thats what they were designed for

[deft basalt]

That can't be true as it works for me, i have the same monitor and HDR does work with DSC enabled on DP

[rustic coyote]

Is there any M&K footage leaked yet? was there even playtest on PC or is everybody playing on controller?

[tepid plinth]

Haven’t seen any at all

Would have been open to both definitely

[mint cobalt]

what I'm just saying, people think Battlefield jets are too arcady, they have not experience what true Arcade Jet Combat is (<v<;

[tepid plinth]

But even the ac shadows creator demo had everyone on controller even though mouse was an option. I guess the ratio of controller to mouse is just that high

Although I do wonder what the performance is like in game

[rustic coyote]

I'll never get it why anyone would prefer controller over mouse (on PC)

[tepid plinth]

No idea either

But then again I’ve never once held one so I wouldn’t even consider it

[rustic coyote]

fair enough

[mint cobalt]

I prefer Mouse and Keyboard for FPS, controller is useful for game like Elden Ring

[tepid plinth]

Even then I feel it’s benefits are minor

In the end it’s down to preference, but still surprised nobody else in the test has used them

[rustic coyote]

don't like crossplay in FPS games. it's impossible to balance properly and will always be unfair for either mk or controller players.

controller support on PC yes, but w/o aimassist whatsoever

[hasty patio]

Does anyone know why i dont see battlefield playtest on ea battlelabs ?

It says that there is no playtests

[rustic coyote]

that's normal. only way to tell if you are in is the direct notification via mail.

[unique fog]

@cyan swallow in the same boat the peeps that fly jets extremely well have to be using 70% of their brain...lol

[cunning chasm]

Anyone get the test on pc? Or its only console

[scarlet sundial]

Both

[untold goblet]

When does the testing go live?

[half halo]

Nobody knows

[vague junco]

do u think it would be possible to have helictoper crashes or plane crashes like in the BF5 trailer where the plane crashes and the pilot gets out of the plane moments like that but in multiplayer cinematic crashes

i have always wanted that

[covert nest]

Crash landings were removed which is kinda sad.

I do feel there's a real chance of anything happening

[half halo]

[mossy marten]

Happy . day

[tepid plinth]

If you’re American

[mossy marten]

you don't like pi?

[tough zinc]

no test this weekend?

[mossy marten]

we don't know

[nova rune]

I hope to see Flags and ONLY borderlines on minimap, thats one of few things thats put me off

[mossy marten]

wouldn't be surprised if it's a toggle setting tbh

[nova rune]

yeah optional borderlines to toggle but I have not seen flags so hope they bring them back

[tepid plinth]

I would if it was actually pi day but it's 14/3

[mossy marten]

smh

[keen quiver]

hey, where can i sign up for batllefield lab?

[mossy marten]

ea playtest site

[mossy marten]

[stray veldt]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[keen quiver]

thank you

so i registered, now i just have to wait for an email?

[stray veldt]

yeah, you'll get a an email for registering at the site first, though i had to wait a while for mine 🙂

and when you get picked for actual testing you will get another one

[smoky pike]

https://tenor.com/view/golum-scary-angry-face-i-wanna-play-want-to-play-gif-12170992

[hallow escarp]

i see too people complaining about how the game is too fast on the reddit

like go play squad if you want it to be slow

[rotund pier]

I don't think it's fast

as long as it isn't CoD

[fleet robin]

i left the battlefield subreddit because of that

so many crybabies ever since 2042

[hallow escarp]

fr

[fleet robin]

nothing is good enough and it's just a cesspit of negativity

[fathom cosmos]

Any info as to when the next playtest will launch?

[mossy marten]

no

[fathom cosmos]

Ok thanks

[tepid plinth]

Nobody has used any kind of movement in any gameplay I’ve seen, not even the stuff listed on the movement blog as being confirmed features

All we’ve seen are people running and walking, if people have a problem with that then idk

[fleet robin]

they don't know what they want anymore

wasn't it 2042 where people were complaining about movement speed, but it turns out it's barely faster than bf4 or something lol

[hallow escarp]

the ppl saying its too fast are just bad

[tepid plinth]

50% of the people playing probably haven’t used anything more than a jump in bf anyways

[mossy marten]

True

[tepid plinth]

They just look at the animation for sprinting and use that to deduce whether it’s a cod game or some other bs

Not the actual extent of the systems and why they are made the way they are

[mossy marten]

People already complaining about a slide and how its "CoD shit"

[tepid plinth]

I love this community

I haven’t even seen a single person do a slide

[mossy marten]

There a very shitty slide into a jump on one of the clips

Shitty attempt*

[quick merlin]

21st March

[half halo]

Basic skill issue of the BF Community

[fathom cosmos]

Hopefully a invite will show up in my inbox

[sacred crescent]

when ? 😄

[mossy marten]

Whenever they decide to send invites

[polar sun]

What's something everyone is looking forward to? Me personally I'd love to see battle chatter similar to BF3 or BF4? Just makes the game feel more alive imo.

[icy maple]

I want radio chatter from bf4 and the battle sounds of 1 like its so cool hearing gunfights and people screaming when dying it just added depth

[sacred crescent]

i would also love that back in the game. i still checking my stats when i play lol good times

[icy maple]

And everything was chaotic

[tropic jewel]

fishing minigame

[icy maple]

Lots of Easter eggs

[polar sun]

If I don't see a dinosaur statue somewhere I'm gonna be so sad lol

[sacred crescent]

i hope the make also a Vientma Mod at some point with new BF. I kinda miss and enjoyed playing BC2 normal and vientam mob

[tepid plinth]

Less gadgets that just do most of the work for you

[icy maple]

Portal should come back what do u guys think

[tepid plinth]

The editor definitely

It’s just people lacked the imagination to fill it with new modes, and their restraint on creativity with exp cuts absolutely ruined it

[icy maple]

And if they add AI make them good

[signal vigil]

I feel like the imagination is definitely out there, I feel like it was more so how unprovoked creators were to even make things for 2042 because of well, obvious reasons

[icy maple]

They should expand onto portal

Instead of making your own gamemodes they should give modding material to like modify in game things

Like physics and stuff

[velvet berry]

I wish there was like a joint squad option where you can expand the amount of people in the squad.

[rapid aurora]

I hate it when you join a game and it's full of locked squads.

[wheat niche]

join with me

can some one assist me with bf hardline

is 2$

please guys

[quaint lynx]

they gotta make the gameplay heavy first if you know what i mean

[hallow escarp]

battlefield community when they see someone slide: 😡 😡 😡 😡

[ionic peak]

hey, has anyone seen issues where the playtest sign in site loops after accepting T&C?

[vapid cave]

I would love to see fortification from bf5

[polar sun]

Fortifications would be dope to see from bf5. Maybe expand on it too by making squad points be able to put down sturdier fortifications or something?

[vapid cave]

I agree it would make it more rewarding

[heady trail]

Portal is coming back

[maiden pagoda]

@quick merlinwhere did you get the info ?

[quick merlin]

Several posts on Reddit.

[quick merlin]

sorry, forgot to tag you on my answer.

[patent mist]

I hope battlefield 6 would add MCX XM7, MCX Virtus, VHS-D2 & Hk433 in their game & of course the return of the M4a1

[feral garden]

We have seen the M4A1 already, so its there

[patent mist]

I always love guns and wanted to testing them out before join any battle...guns is all I knew in my life since bad company 1

[mossy marten]

Hk433 is there as well

[patent mist]

Thank you guys I just hope that MCX Spear, HVS-D2 and MCX Virtus will come soon

[mint cobalt]

Now hear me out if there is one thing I want Battlefield to do, it is something that no other FPS games has ever done before, give us the option to have the SPAZ-12 that can fold and unfold the stock, I have not once played an FPS, that has given us that option, it is usually one or the other

[nimble bridge]

They were already in 2042, I think they will also be in BF6

[mossy marten]

most likely yeah

[nimble bridge]

Even if not during the launch I'm sure they will come with a season

[mossy marten]

..... but why
what would the purpose be

[nimble bridge]

Faster ADS strafe speed I guess?

[rotund pier]

having played BF2042 after a while I realized that the so called "classes" from BF6 are literally the BF2042 ones

which is absolute ass

[mossy marten]

maybe?
but then some guns would need gimmicks like that other than the spas

[nimble bridge]

BF6 classes are worse

[feral garden]

They arent lmao

[nimble bridge]

Can we talk about leeks btw? I was muted for a week so I'm not sure

I don't want to be muted or banned again

[mossy marten]

yes

[mint cobalt]

The MP5 is another one that does that

[mossy marten]

they changed the rules like 3 days ago

during your mute

[rotund pier]

Assault gets the stimthing

[patent mist]

I wish we can have that system ware we can change our soldier's uniform just like bf3 & bf4

[nimble bridge]

Lol

[rotund pier]

Supports are both ammo and health guys

it is the same

[feral garden]

Yeah totally the same...2 gadgets are similar, so it must be!!!!!!!!

[mossy marten]

just no clips/links and no theorizing on stuff based on leaks
and anything under discretion of the mod team

[mint cobalt]

I might be thinking the MP5 or UMP-45 that folds

[mossy marten]

..... ok?

[nimble bridge]

Support being medic and ammo crate is okay, I have no idea why people hate that and not 6-7 different passives and ultis they have

[mossy marten]

it's not tho

[rotund pier]

I just hate assault being basically the roleless class

[mossy marten]

there is a role
Kill everything that moves

[nimble bridge]

Assault is fragger

[feral garden]

their class gadget is the defib, they have a support crate thats both ammo and HP...ammo is resupplied completely differently now. If you arent going to actually use your head when looking at things, maybe its best you not discuss leaks.

[patent mist]

are we going to have one of those adrenaline shots back just like bad company 1

[mossy marten]

we got med pens from 2042 as assault class gadget

[mint cobalt]

It’s not okay, it destroys the squad teamwork when it comes to the medic having the ammo crate

[rotund pier]

I'm not even discussing leaks

[nimble bridge]

No one cares about teamwork in BF

[feral garden]

???

[patent mist]

How are you suppose to inject yourself when your health is very low

[nimble bridge]

Combining both is in fact beneficial because you won't have to search for a guy with an ammo crate or a med crate

[feral garden]

WTF are you talking about then? lol

[rotund pier]

About what people have said

[feral garden]

so even worse, great lol

[rotund pier]

I've heard everyone mention that they just get the med pen

and that's it

[feral garden]

Battlefield: Chinese Whispers

[rotund pier]

well that and grenade launchers

[mint cobalt]

So was voice chat yet people wanted it in BF2042

[rotund pier]

haven't heard or seen any mentions of defibs for the assault

[mossy marten]

that's because that's part of support class

assault is straight up assault
kill everything that moves, frag out

[nimble bridge]

People were having issues with not receiving health/ammo since BF3

Combining both is a good thing imo

[mossy marten]

maybe, but that's before discord was available on consoles as well
no one uses in game voip since then

[rotund pier]

see

[feral garden]

No one used VOIP in BF3, 4, 1 or V either

[rotund pier]

wait you were talking about support

[nimble bridge]

Next BF should have proximity voip imo

[mossy marten]

um, yeah

[rotund pier]

then there was just a communication issue woops

[mossy marten]

assault: anti infantry
engi: anti vehicle/repair vehicles
support: ammo and health
recon: camping

that's the classes for this game

[nimble bridge]

They should replace recon gadget, TUGS ain't it, spawn beacon should be their mandatory gadget

[rotund pier]

I'd still prefer ammo / health to be separate classes but oh well

[mossy marten]

true

[rotund pier]

hm?

[mint cobalt]

Since BF3 I have only seen 2 people use ingame voice chat, it BF3 on Console and BF2042

[feral garden]

whats the reason for that?

[rotund pier]

so you can only choose one gadget?

[feral garden]

You have 1 class gadget, then 2 chosen gadgets

[mossy marten]

two gadgets, plus the class gadget which cannot be changed

so 2 choices + 1 mandatory

[rotund pier]

I just think everyone that has an lmg is going to take an ammo crate rather than a health crate

[rotund pier]

oh nice nice

[feral garden]

thats not a reson for wanting ammo to be on another class tho

[mossy marten]

engi's have stinger (gross), at4, at mine, rpg, javelin (gross), slams, and something else I can't tell what it is

[rotund pier]

no, I just want the health one on a different class

[feral garden]

Why?

[mossy marten]

the reason is probably to prevent choosing support as the "ultimate" assault class

unlimited ammo and meds + gun = BRRRRR

[mint cobalt]

It provide choices, Medic heals but needs ammo, while Support has Ammo but when hurt needs healing

[rotund pier]

I just prefer the BF3 / BF4 system, with assault being the medic

[feral garden]

But thats a system of co-dependence, not synergy or teamwork

[rotund pier]

even if they don't actively want to heal, they have the crate that they can drop, even if it's just for healing themselves, it's still there and others can heal from it

[nimble bridge]

Medics were OP in BF3-4-V-1 for a reason

Assault medics are too self sufficient

[feral garden]

The resupply loop is also totally different now. You dont instantly get ammo as soon as you step on a supply crate, each piece of equipment has a timer you need to wait for, when that timer is reached...you get some of that equipments ammo back

[mossy marten]

oooooooo
assist as kill is coming back? noice

[rotund pier]

man I just want to play it 😔

[tepid plinth]

Idk to be honest. In my mind, giving them tugs could theoretically help push them closer to where the action actually is, but spawn beacons being mandatory could promote just sitting off in the middle of nowhere and just reappearing there when you die

[rotund pier]

also how do you even know if you get access, an email?

[mossy marten]

also true

[mint cobalt]

Really in BF3 it was the Engineer class that was OP because they had the Carbine weapons

[mossy marten]

yes

[feral garden]

BF3 assault was the OP class by far. All the best weapons were ARs

[nimble bridge]

AN94 and AEK says hi

[mossy marten]

wasn't the m16a3 the more op and not the aek?

aek was strong af in bf4

[mint cobalt]

That was BF4 where the Assault Class that was OP

[rotund pier]

the m16a3 on bf3 was incredibly OP

[nimble bridge]

AEK was always strong

[rotund pier]

I feel it was the only gun that actually landed hits

[nimble bridge]

AN94 was OP

[mossy marten]

any class that has meds is OP

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, 1/3 of the players plays as Falck in 2042 too

[mossy marten]

falck + pp2k + redacted = 🧑‍🌾

[nimble bridge]

Give me T1 skins for portal guns @€A 😭

[feral garden]

More black, red and gold skins, wooo

[nimble bridge]

Gives me a reason to grind them

[mossy marten]

oh yeah
assault gets dragons breath underbarrel

[feral garden]

I always found it super lame that all T1 skins are the same theme...and not a special skin for each weapon

[mint cobalt]

it been awhile since I played BF3, all I remember was people jump into the Engineer Class because of that weapon exclusivity, it was the whole reason Engineer end up with the SMG in BF4

[mossy marten]

DICE, gimme animated camo for T1 next game

[nimble bridge]

I think it's super lame it's just 2 skins for mastery and not like 5-10 skins

[feral garden]

Enginner getting carbines, and SMG being all class would make a lot more sense.

[nimble bridge]

BF3-4's meta doesn't matter that much anyways tbh, everything has fast TTK

People used assault because of heals

[surreal cloud]

Nearly everyone went engineer anyways because vehicles were everywhere

I like BF1 because of that, everyone has some sort of AT and then vehicles in general are much better balanced

[feral garden]

everyone getting AT in a modern setting is incredibly crap tho. (See 2042 for reference)

[mint cobalt]

I was actually thinking they should have the Engineer Exclusive to the Shotgun and the Assault/Medic Exclusive to the DMR the two least used weapon classes in the Battlefield series

[feral garden]

Balance wise, there is no real reason to make Shotguns, or DMRs exclusive to one class. The are just similar weapons at the opposite end of their spectrums

[mint cobalt]

The Assault Rifle, the Carbine and the SMG should just be access to every Class

[tepid plinth]

at that point just give everyone everything

[feral garden]

Youll have an incredibly boring game meta if you do this

[mossy marten]

ARs to assault, SMGs to engi, LMGs to support, Snipers to Recon

everything else is open 🤷‍♂️

[mint cobalt]

So BF4 method

[feral garden]

SMG to engineer doesnt really make much sense to me. It never made sense in BF4 either

[nimble bridge]

SMGs should be universal imo

[feral garden]

Like if you add a CQC map...why would you have your SMGs be on engineers

Give them Carbines or LMGs

LMGs if you want them to be high DPS for high time, or carbines if you want them to have similar, but lower DPS potential to assault. Engineer are frontlines soldiers along with assault afterall

[tepid plinth]

I feel lmgs works pretty well
if you think about the intended ranges for weapons, that puts them a little further back at about the mid point, able then to watch flanks and be mid range assists focusing on taking out vehicles

[mint cobalt]

I feel like this conversation is what led to every Class in BF2042 having access to every weapons

[feral garden]

LMGs probably FEEL like a better fit for Support tho.

[nimble bridge]

I don't like the idea

[tepid plinth]

ultimately though, I still enjoy no restrictions. Sure it's got some downsides, but I can't disregard how fun cqc recon is

[feral garden]

I hate it

Maps like redacted bring my issues with it to the forefront. You have a bunch of differing classes, all with different gadgets and utility, but everyone using the same 2-4 weapons. Incredibly boring

[tepid plinth]

yeah I can definitely see and accept it's faults

I just see it as i'll take whatever they decide to do as there are pros and cons to both approaches

[mint cobalt]

This might be a unpopular opinion BF6 should never have any maps that are like Operation Metro/ Operation Lockout

[feral garden]

It should have maps like that, 100%

[tepid plinth]

what it needs is a server browser / map selector so you can avoid them if you want

[mossy marten]

this

[feral garden]

Its nice to have different types of games, on different types of maps to break up the flow.

[mint cobalt]

No it should, just not designed in the way those two maps are

[feral garden]

Server browser for sure. But I think a lot of players issues would also be solved with infinitely running/looping map rotations. This 2042 thing of returning to menu after each game should never return

If a player wants to leave the game and return to menus...they are quite capable of doing that themself

[mint cobalt]

If Server Browser do come back, I don’t know if possible at least provide an automatic random player team switch at the end of each match, maybe it could help make one sided matches be less likely

[feral garden]

Would be nice yeah. They at least re-added manual team swap in portal for 2042

[minor linden]

Yeah. Persistent servers are necessary alongside a server browser

[shy pilot]

I have returned frosted flake man

[half halo]

There was manual team change in BFV too

At least on console

Just needed to do it differently that previous installments

[young jetty]

If an Server Browser doesn’t come back then that also means SBMM will be present.

[kind dirge]

Wonder when the next test is?

[half halo]

If There is SBMM, the next Battlefield Will fail, as simple as that

[half halo]

Nobody knows. Stay tuned for the next blog

[young jetty]

If SBMM is present it’s over for casual FPS

[half halo]

Pretty much

I'm so fed Up with Games were an algorithm decides what kind of experience I have that day and if I'll get shit on just because I was good the previous day

Or the other way around. Knowing that after a few atrocious rounds, the game will give some crumbs to continue playing

[young jetty]

Exactly battlefield is the last stand for casual gaming

[unique linden]

If I’m going to playtest, do I have to download something in order to play?

[half halo]

Yes

As in all software, you will most likely need to download something

[tall urchin]

No man I love sitting through a Haven queue just to get kicked out, sit in queue and get Haven a second time in a row

Screw redacted give me stadium back to back so I can have games end in 3 minutes

[nimble bridge]

I love spawning in to a 50-650 match

They should bring ticket counter from battlelog back

Battlelog allowed you to see tickets in a server so you were deciding if you should join or not

[tall urchin]

I've spawned into the end match screen so many times in 2042

[nimble bridge]

They should also bring back map voting from BF1 back

[tall urchin]

Map voting if we don't have a server browser is fucking ESSENTIAL

[nimble bridge]

BF1 had both

[tall urchin]

Yeah but BF1 also poo poo stinky

[nimble bridge]

Doesn't mean it doesn't have it's merits

I like BF1 TTK and server/map voting options

BF1 also had loadouts for classes which is cool

[young jetty]

BF1 is still a masterpiece

Although I despise it’s movement

[hallow escarp]

movement for new battlefield is soo good

[nimble bridge]

No slide cancelling, no edgeboosting, no bhopping = no buy

[proud pawn]

you will still buy it

[half halo]

Sounds like a skill issue

[proud pawn]

only way to not have sbmm is if they have servers run by the community and a server browser

[young jetty]

BF3/4 had Bhopping

[proud pawn]

bf2 had og bunny hop

[half halo]

BF1 was amazing. Sure it had flaws like all BFs, but it was one of the greatest no doubt

And the best launch of a BF since BF3

[young jetty]

Battlefield is not Squad or ARMA or any realistic milsim shooter.

[proud pawn]

the new game needs lots of maps and remakes of older maps

[half halo]

Insert meme: If the milsim crowd could Read, they'd be really upset

[proud pawn]

im worried that they are gonna listen to the cod/milsim crowd

[nimble bridge]

I want Ziba Tower and Donya Fortress back

[young jetty]

They truly believe that Battlefield has always been a milsim 😂

[proud pawn]

supposedly portal is coming back to the new game, I would like to see them bring back every map from every bf game lol

[nimble bridge]

2042 had 2 maps from 3 games each I wouldn't bet on that 🤣

[proud pawn]

the only time it ever came close to a milsim was when bf2 and 1942 had project reality

[half halo]

I don't think Zampella will listen to Them tbh

[half halo]

And Forgotten Hope to an extent

[proud pawn]

yeah that too

[half halo]

But again, it"s all mods

Never mainline BFs themselves

[proud pawn]

but it merged with project realirt

reality

project reality turned into squad, hell let loose and squad 44

[young jetty]

If they do game is dead in less than an month after release

[proud pawn]

i wouldnt mind seeing infantry focused maps without tanks and choppers or having the ability to run servers and turn off vehicles

[half halo]

Don't underestimate EA's ability to speedrun the death of franchises

[proud pawn]

what made the refractor bf games so much fun was the sandbox feel and openness of the maps

the commander assets you could destroy in the enemy main bases felt like secondary objectives

but they listened to people complaining about base camping so they took that out

I wish that made a come back

with a commader role that was physically in the server like in bf2 and 2142

[nimble bridge]

Commader shouldn't come back imo, squad leaders should be mini commanders like BFV instead

[young jetty]

The entire bf community is gonna torch you for this

[nimble bridge]

Team with a good commander was going to win 90% of the time

[proud pawn]

commanders could control uav arty suppliy and vehicle drops

[nimble bridge]

UAV, CUAV spam, sending rockets when they can

[proud pawn]

aswell the squadleader and squads got extra points for following orders

but what made that feature so good in bf2 and 2142 compared to bf4 was the fact that you could destroy the assets and they had to be repaired by an engineer

or supply box

I will probably see hate for this aswell but I want to see more classes

[young jetty]

They need to bring back naval combat

[nimble bridge]

🥱

[proud pawn]

and have a squad lock option for vehicles

[mint cobalt]

Not to change the subject, if there are any Battlefield devs here, have the BF3 Canadian server shutdown? Because I can no longer access BF3 on PC anymore

[young jetty]

DICE BRING BACK NAVAL COMBAT

[proud pawn]

fortifications need to come back aswell

[nimble bridge]

They should bring back CQC first imo

[covert nest]

Just deserted servers

Sorry ekgero

[mossy marten]

there's only one NA server from TBG

[young jetty]

Have you seen the leaked map? That is clearly CQC.

[nimble bridge]

Still has vehicles

I want infantry only CQC

Redacted/Metro type maps

[mint cobalt]

No like I can’t even access the Campaign it is telling me I need to have a license to access BF3

[nimble bridge]

2042 didn't had Redacted until like 2 years after it's release

[covert nest]

Oh

OH

[merry ermine]

oh?

[mossy marten]

that's a bug, how to fix? i forget

[covert nest]

That dumbass license shit i think

They didn't like people reselling their games so they wanted them to buy an activation code.

I'm not sure if bf3 had it but I know a few around that era.

[young jetty]

Me personally I like and dislike infantry only maps

[mint cobalt]

I know what you are talking about, it was the stupid online pass

[covert nest]

You should be able to download it for free???

Yeah

That's the only thing that makes sense in this

[proud pawn]

i like a mix of infantry and vehicles lol

but vehicles do get tiring

so having infantry only maps is good too

[minor linden]

It's more of an urban map than CQC

[proud pawn]

when i ran my bfv servers i did 2 maps infantry 2 maps vehicles and kept it on a rotation

[young jetty]

Have maps more like caspian border, Zavod 311, Grand Bazaar.

[young jetty]

Yea but it also have elements of an CQC map

[proud pawn]

strike at karkand locker metro jalalabad mashtuur city

sharqi penn

[iron patio]

can you tell me where I can download the Battlefield Labs beta version?

I want to play and test.

[proud pawn]

you cant

gotta wait for an email invite

[minor linden]

You sign up on https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs, wait for the confirmation email, and then wait for an invite email

[proud pawn]

they explain it to you when you register if you read the disclaimer

[mint cobalt]

No F**K metro and Locker, don’t get me wrong I am okay with infantry only maps, but map layout like metro and lockers I hate

[iron patio]

I tried

[tall urchin]

I think Redacted is a good compromise without being too meat grinder like Metro/Locker

It'd honestly probably play even better without specialist gadgets like airburst, scatter, etc.

[clear viper]

Redacted is easily one of the best maps in 2042, it's really well-done

[half halo]

I mean it's not hard to be the best map when all the maps in 2042 are bad at best.

[clear viper]

Spearhead, Haven, Orbital, and Exposure are pretty good imo

But yea most of the map pool is rather meh

[tall urchin]

Honestly even from BF4/V map pool I think Redacted plays very well.

[pallid lake]

orbital is a stretch, even after the reworks

but redacted is very solid

[clear viper]

Oh I like Reclaimed as well

[clear viper]

I personally like it

[pallid lake]

I feel the vehicle portion of it is incredibly bland, and the southern points are so isolated and forgettable. It's cool when the tornado rolls through, but besides that, it feels very much like a worse version of that one port map I forgot the name of

Manifest, it feels like a weaker Manifest

[harsh pawn]

Is it too late to get in for the next playtest?

[bronze smelt]

dont think so

you're good

[vapid cave]

Would love to see a outpost type game mode in BF6 like in bf5 as long as it's reworked

[scenic owl]

DICE, please bring the teamplay back

or do something to insentivise players to be more of a teamplayer

2042 is full of so many lonewolves

[covert nest]

Why rely on randos when they can barely fight back.

[scenic owl]

at least be supportive

the number of revives and resupplies is at an all time low

[quick merlin]

The squad call in system at least encouraged squadplay

[tall urchin]

Play strong enough and you'll need less support. Self sufficiency is a skill in of itself that benefits the team.

[winter pawn]

Can someone tell why in the footage released all the scopes when scoped look like they're 3 feet away ?

[scenic owl]

battlefield is not about being a one man army

[brave plover]

you guys think bf2025 is gonna come out this year?

or gta 6 is gonna delay it

[tall urchin]

Instructions unclear, fragged out anyways.

[scenic owl]

team still probably lost because they've no clue what to do

[mossy marten]

Because that's their fault if they have clue what to do
BF has the tools to assist teammates with ammo, meds, and others
But if they're clueless and looking at walls, then it doesn't matter

[tall urchin]

My 11% higher winrate seems to indicate otherwise

[mossy marten]

#screenshots-and-clips message
Perfect example

[tall urchin]

Hard carry player you just cannot understand their methods

[mossy marten]

[strong bison]

No female voice overs angry marines screaming at me thanks

[tall urchin]

Angry women shouting reminds you too much of your mom telling you to clean your room and get a job at 40 years of age?

[strong bison]

Hahaha

I don't like the revive animation either

[covert nest]

To be fair there's more work to get into it but the fact you can drag bodies is genuinely good.

[covert nest]

You can be supportive by killing people and keeping your team safe.

[mossy marten]

[strong bison]

Is there any europe pc testing i was in the cue day 1 for 2 and a half hours 🤔

[sweet flume]

That's it? I was queued for over 12

[topaz cave]

i hope they will remove tac run and change the weapon animation

cuz the weapon animation looks like more cod

[mossy marten]

thanos snapped

[sweet flume]

Kaboom

[floral sable]

What tha mean

[mossy marten]

You should maybe read the whole email...

There's probably something it's saying about certains actions you're NOT supposed to do

[dim temple]

Like the sign in? For me the sign in on the website (the “Inspire the future of play” one) just refreshes it

[knotty iron]

Yeah, the sign-in and log-in buttons on that site

[dim temple]

Ok so im not going crazy haha, thought i was banned from them even though I did not do anything

[knotty iron]

I wanted to go and edit my preferences and just see if anything changed and take a glance at the skate stuff, but I couldn't get in

I joined this server specifically to check in on this issue LOL

[mossy marten]

Classic EA

[nimble bridge]

[mossy marten]

Well time for me to go to sleep for another couple hours
Hate waking yp at 4am

[sweet flume]

Same boat

[spice bramble]

I wouldn't label them anything like that

I earned myself a timeout by labeling them something similar

[sweet flume]

This is the internet, couldn't care less

[spice bramble]

I'm just saying, if you want to talk on this server then just don't do it

[sweet flume]

You are a joke correct?
Quickest block in recording history.

[spice bramble]

What is up with you?

Why are you so aggressive for no reason lmao

[floral sable]

Yeah same for me, I was in contact with support earlier so they are going to look at it

Super wierd tbh, so I can’t fill out the form to confirm that I want to playtest😭

[spice bramble]

Mods deleted the messages

Yikes, looks like I was right

[floral sable]

Lol

[sly vine]

I hope a new wave comes soon I check my email inbox multiple times a day 😂

[floral sable]

But do people do have the same issue as me with the login for the playtest website?

[sly vine]

whats the problem?

[floral sable]

Can’t fillout the form I need to fill out to be in a playtest session😭

Redirects me to ea playtest website. But all the sign in buttons just refresh the page so I can’t access anything and actually confirm that I want to be in the playtest

[sly vine]

shit

[floral sable]

Yeahhh….

[leaden kraken]

Glad I'm not the only one with that problem, Google is saying "site not secure" when I was on it 6 hours ago and "sign in" redirects me to the homepage and only refreshes.

[floral sable]

Yeah same here. Tried troubleshooting for an hour with support but nothing worked. He said he was going to forward the issue so that it can be resolved. So we will just have to hope for the best🙏🏼

[pallid coral]

yeah sign in is fucked

[tepid plinth]

Survey isn’t necessary to enter however

[sly vine]

Can someone send the link?

[floral sable]

Says in my email that if left incomplete (the survey) then you won’t gain access to play

[floral sable]

For the playtest website?

[sly vine]

Yes

[floral sable]

https://www.ea.com/playtesting

[sly vine]

Cause every time I try, I get redirected to the EA Playtester site. It’s nice that I got the Skate playtest, but there’s nothing about battlefield there

[floral sable]

Aw damn, but are you able to login and all of that? Make it past the sign up for playtest screen?

[sly vine]

Yessir

can only sign up for Skate and I already got it

[wet eagle]

LMFAO I WAS PULLING OUT MY HAIR TRYING TO SIGN UP, nice to know its not a me problem 😭 i was goin crazy

[floral sable]

Hmmm, yeah me and some others above like alex can’t even make it past that initial page. Every time we login it just refreshes

And here another one lol

Welcome to the club

[wet eagle]

lol

i dont like this club 😦

[sly vine]

Oooohhh fuck

[wet eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[floral sable]

Same

[sly vine]

I did it a few days ago maybe the servers are overloaded

[floral sable]

Perhaps those with this problem can create a ticket to let it be known that several people have this issue?

[floral sable]

Perhaps yeah

[wet eagle]

i did fam

i bet we all did lol

[sly vine]

Just let us play 😭

[wet eagle]

like i prob wont get in but the fact that i know i dont have a shot att all bec i cant sign in is making me depressed low key

u miss 100% of the shots you dont take, and i cant take a shot bec i dont even have a ball

[sly vine]

I can give u one of mine

🤙🏻

[wet eagle]

ill take what i can get ✂️

[sly vine]

😄

[wet eagle]

🫵

[sly vine]

👺

Page got hacked?

[wispy dagger]

Guys are brave lol I’m sure it’s still nda

[sly vine]

what u mean

[tepid plinth]

The labs site isn’t

It’s public knowledge

[sly vine]

The ea playtest site is unsafe to use

[spice bramble]

Guess I got a trojan in my computer

[paper mortar]

@lyric thistle Good morning, David! Is there a possibility in the future of further improving the server tickrate to 90Hz or even 120Hz, as we did in BF4 and BF1 Incursions?
I remember those servers were as smooth as butter, and at the same time the phrase "How did he kill me if he was hidden behind the wall" stopped being said.

[pallid coral]

You know you can mitigate issues by making better client server engineering decisions rather than simply increasing tikrate which would literally double the costs lol

[paper mortar]

That's not the case, my friend. The higher the server tickrate, the faster the information reaches our computers and therefore the level or reaction/shooting time is much better, it feels much better.

You can have a NASA connection, or 5 ping, but if the server is not good, the sensation will not be good enough either, obviously having 5 ping is much better than 35-40 as the average.

And this leads to another major improvement: there should be more official servers hosted in more areas of Europe, for example in Spain, and we would go from having a ping of 40 to a maximum of 5, and at the same time other servers would be decongested.

[feral garden]

I'd prefer them implement anti clan stacking on their servers than 120hz tbh.

[wintry fox]

Playtest page is back up but no new tests
Does that mean the next round hasn’t opened up for signup or did I miss it?

[feral garden]

Would stop certain Spanish clans from 20 man stacking for ez wins. 😏

[tepid plinth]

The tests don’t appear on that list

[wintry fox]

Where do they?

[paper mortar]

The ideal is:
-90 or 120hz tickrate servers on the Portal, with an extra charge for this server quality.
-More servers spread across continents to significantly improve ping.
-Good anti-cheat system.
-Spectator mode.

With this, the issue of cheaters would be much easier to identify and eradicate, while also allowing us to stream matches, and everything would be much more fun.

[paper mortar]

BF is a game to play with friends or a team, not to play alone, it is a clear option, but it is another world, the ideal is to play with your team, and if you get together 20 or 30, then better, but that is difficult, and if it happens, you can play matches.

[tepid plinth]

It’s just an email that’s sent to you, you sign up on the bf labs site and that’s it

[wintry fox]

Battlefield labs just takes me to the play testing site
And I remember there being a labs signup before unless it was one signup for all future tests

[tepid plinth]

It will do after you’ve signed up once

[sly vine]

Yeah, I don’t get it. I can’t see the Battlefield sign up anywhere

Maybe I did it already I don’t know but it doesn’t say anything on the page about whether I’ve already done it it just says ‚playtest in progress,’ and there I can only sign up for Skate

[feral garden]

Na, optimizing for one standard is best. 60hz for everything. Makes bugs easier to track, and less variance between occurance reports.

[nimble bridge]

They will implement SBMM anyways

[wintry fox]

Why can’t we just get ranked sbmm and unranked modes
One for dedicated competitive play
One for general play with relatively well paired opponents
And one with no skill consideration

Those who want to excel can play ranked
Those who are new can play sbmm based
And those who want a variety of enemy skill levels can play General/ping based

That’s how I’d do it

[paper mortar]

@feral garden Now in 2042 you don't know if you're playing against 20 people from the same team on their own discord or not... there are many players who are from the same community but don't want to or the tag doesn't fit in their origin name... and you're playing against them anyway... so it's an excuse... and if you don't dare to play like that... you can change servers and that's it.

There are players who like these challenges, others don't, but we mustn't deprive anyone of that, they should always be able to choose, and not impose.

[covert nest]

60 HZ is such an upgrade no wonder why they don't want to have persistent servers.

Cause for context.

it costs a lot.

[nimble bridge]

BF doesn't fit into competitive ranked play anyways, maybe if they introduce a 5v5 rush mode or something

[wintry fox]

Competitive attack helicopter vs attack helicopter could work 😂

[nimble bridge]

Weren't BF4, 1, V servers also 60 hz?

[paper mortar]

Two other features that should be included:

• Option to change teams
• Vote map

[nimble bridge]

Map voting and server browser should return imo

Team changing I don't care

People will abuse it to get high WL ratios

[feral garden]

It was a casual response stating an opinion. There is no need to be so triggered. It's not that deep.

[paper mortar]

You can change teams, which is very useful when playing with friends or organizing matches between communities.

[wintry fox]

But yeah in general I think SBMM (in a pure non algorithmic form unlike cod and possibly others) is a great option to have especially for new players or for average players who keep getting sweated on by the top people in normal matches

As a choice that is

[nimble bridge]

SBMM won't be a choice if they add it

[feral garden]

Easier to stack a full team with your clan with team swap, agreed.

[paper mortar]

I'm not bothered, my friend, I just commented and argued 🙂

[nimble bridge]

Casual will be ranked in all but name if they add SBMM

Just like CoD

[paper mortar]

What I'm getting at, gentlemen, is that the ideal is to have the maximum number of functions that we had in previous BF, and since each player chooses whether to use them or not, that will make the next BF glorious.

[wild fractal]

Hahahah whaaat you call me

[feral garden]

Agree. I just think development of a really polished game would be easier if they only need to concentrate on one server tick rate. Instead of multiple.

[wet eagle]

its working now sign up if u like

well it did for me anyway

[sly vine]

I am already signed up on the ea Playtest page 😬

[sly vine]

my problem is that I cant see the Battlefield Labs sign up on the es Playtest page

[tepid plinth]

Just do it here and you’re good https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[wet eagle]

@sly vineit was at the end of the survey i got the option to choose between the two so i chose BF lol

it was in small print

at the bottom

[sly vine]

When I click on sign up i get redirected to the Playtest site and have to click on sign in then im logged into the EA Playtest site, but there’s nothing about Battlefiel

[wet eagle]

rip

[sly vine]

I am cooked

Just want to Play this gameeeee so bad i miss bf3 😦

:(„

[tepid plinth]

Yeah that’s fine, there isn’t meant to be

If it directs you to the playtest site, that means you are signed up

[sly vine]

Ohhh, so i did it alr 🙄
Thanks 😄

[wet eagle]

it could be worse. i just bough a SCUF ENVISION PRO from amazon and they sent me a broken used one that is quite literally dirty af 😭 they sending me a new one now

[sly vine]

I have to check what this is

[wet eagle]

its smells like cigarettes LMFAO

[sly vine]

160 is crazy

[sly vine]

That would piss me of

[wet eagle]

i got it on sale there was a deal i payed 120

[sly vine]

What yall think about Labs?

[tepid plinth]

Yeah, the thing people saw on the playtest listing isn’t technically to do with the labs sign up process. You don’t manually opt in to the specific test, they let you know

[wet eagle]

honestly i was never a bf guy but this one looks pretty good cant like from what ive seen

hop it holds up

[tepid plinth]

I find it impossible to get excited for any new game nowadays

And can’t properly critique it from leaks alone either, I just want to get into it and really break it down to give solid feedback

[sly vine]

Aiiiight

[wet eagle]

i always fine betas/alphas are better then the full release idk then the tweaks usualy break the fun parts about the game

for me anyway

[tepid plinth]

Betas are fun but mostly cause everything is fresh

[wet eagle]

yeah thats true

[sly vine]

100%

[tepid plinth]

I would assume they’ll tell you where

[half halo]

Hello fellow Battlefield enjoyers, how are you doing today?