battlefield-labs-discussion

[small matrix]

yes 1and 5

let's hope gta6 gets delayed so we play bf6 this year

[dusky mountain]

I would play both... GTA6 on the couch, BF at my laptop 🙂

Getting old... Can't sit for long periods of time at my PC anymore 😄

[small matrix]

😔

[grand cloak]

Any updates since the sign up thing few weeks back

[tepid plinth]

Updates are sent to those involved, otherwise we’ll hear nothing

[magic shuttle]

An Ai gathering information from all the Battlefield games and then asked questions. But not surprising at least to me as Piracy is rampant on PC and EA Pass on PC basically getting freecodes for games

[tall bridge]

so people got already choosen?

[tepid plinth]

Probably

[tall bridge]

foooookl

[compact lake]

i hope for gameplay leaks haha

[tall bridge]

so i got the registration complete mail last week. but it does not say im choosen or some. so im not getting an invite aint i? xD

[tepid plinth]

Unfortunately yeah

[tall bridge]

i also have to say my registration was already done at release of bflabs

[mossy marten]

[vague barn]

The order in which you signed up does not matter for your chances of being selected to partake in the actual playtesting.

You may still be selected in future admission waves for playtesting, but I wouldn't count on it. There is a statement at the end of said confirmation email that says you are not to disclose what is said in it. Plenty of people have shared their emails and it says something like "You are not to disclose [...] including the contents of this email [...]."

[tall bridge]

yeah i got that too

[compact lake]

where are you from akhi?

[tall bridge]

turkish from germany

[compact lake]

mashallah sag das doch

[tall bridge]

xD

[compact lake]

bruder ich hatte auch diese mail die bestätigt hat das es abgeschlossen ist vor 1-2 wochen

[tall bridge]

bin so mad nicht ausgewählt geworden zu sein

[compact lake]

ich auch bro aber vlt werden wir ja es gibt mehrere tests

morgen sind denke ich nur 2-3 stunden

[tall bridge]

ich hoffe auf leaks haha

[compact lake]

wallah ich auch haha hoffentlich in gute qualität

[mild girder]

Some people are stupid and leaked the mails and date lol

[hollow tiger]

I was aproved for Battlefield Laps but i have not received another email with the schedule.

[twilit creek]

I agree, some have the IQ of a goldfish

[tepid plinth]

At this point I wish I could just enforce no discussions about it just so I don’t feel bad for not being in it lol

[mild girder]

And now you wont be able to play at all anymore lol

[tepid plinth]

No battlefield laps is different

It’s a racing game

Like forza horizon but with destruction and SMAWs

[mild girder]

Mario Kart with Guns

[tepid plinth]

BattleKart : 2142

[young jetty]

I’m not gonna say anything but you might wanna stick around Reddit

Tomorrow

[mild girder]

Nah, i doubt something will show up tomorrow

[tepid plinth]

Nothing is happening at all these next few weeks

Dunno what you’re getting at

mods had better be on the ball

[young jetty]

I wouldn’t be so sure of that 🙂

[mild girder]

im to 80% sure

[young jetty]

Don’t say I didn’t told ya

[mild girder]

I mean, if something leaks, i will know it lol

[tepid plinth]

And that means you knew something, which means BAN

[vague barn]

Not tying to be rude, but please stop with the vague attempts at sounding like you know shit when you actually don't.

It's pretty damn cringe, ngl.

[young jetty]

Ok I do agree it does sound cringe but I do know something but I’m not gonna saying anything just wait for tommorow

[vague barn]

So basically, you don't know anything and just want to seem "in the know" so people will think you're cool on the internet.

[young jetty]

No I know something but I don’t want to say it on here because of NDA

[feral garden]

Cringe behavior

[vague barn]

Sure dude.

[mild girder]

wtf did i just see...

Twitter is such a weird place man

[vague barn]

"hey guys, i know something about the nda stuff but i won't say anything about it and instead leave vague attempts at hints that something is going to happen tomorrow when its widely known that tests are happening"

[young jetty]

Obviously everyone knows the playtest is happening tomorrow

[vague barn]

Maybe I am being overly skeptical here, but that shit annoys me since it's so cringe.

[feral garden]

So you know literally nothing everyone doesnt already know.

[young jetty]

No

[feral garden]

It annoys me too, if you cant say shit due to an NDA, just STFU and dont say anything at all

[young jetty]

No need to get hostile

[vague barn]

No I know something but don't want to say it on here because of NDA
It's not like the NDA suddenly goes away tomorrow. I'd wager you are just hedging your bets we get leaks tomorrow and are intending to claim credit for said leaks.

[feral garden]

No hostility here at all, just stop acting smug. OR like you know insider info on when people will/will not receive invites.

[mild girder]

I probably found out more about the Playtest myself by looking at all social Media Posts of people breaking the NDA lol

[vague barn]

I'm surprised no one has leaked the NDA itself yet, just for the meme of it.

[mild girder]

I mean, the NDA is public

technically

The NDA is just the Pre-Release Feedback Agreement

[vague barn]

Well, depends on if they have an additional NDA for the test itself or just the Pre-Release Feedback NDA.

[mild girder]

there never was a seperate NDA for EA Playtests

[vague barn]

Ah okay, yeah I have neve rplaytested anything for EA before so I wouldn't know.

[mild girder]

Always been Protected by the PRFA

If they were at In House Tests, i bet they need to sign a real NDA, but that is just a speculation

[restive ginkgo]

Used to be with a lot of old EA games they had outsourced some testing phases where yes there was a hard NDA you had to have. wet signature for. All these years later, I don't actually remember if I am able to say what titles.

Not like that let me in this labs test 🤷

[fleet robin]

there has

[mild girder]

When lol 10 years ago?

[restive ginkgo]

Had to look up some years here. Longer ago then that

[fleet robin]

often, i believe they mention additional NDAs when signing up too

[mild girder]

That was way before the new EA Playtesting Program, old Playtests had these ye (talking about EA exclusivly)

[mild girder]

They do say in the FAQ: "All those invited to join Battlefield Labs will need to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) as they will not be permitted to talk about, or show, anything related to their experience with Battlefield Labs." but i doubt they really need to sign a seperate NDA

[restive ginkgo]

Indeed. Wasn't through EA play testing, never have done anything with them so not surprised I wouldn't get in labs straight out

[fleet robin]

probably not for labs yeah

remote

[mild girder]

Like i said, all EA Playtests that were through this Platform, never required a seperate NDA to be signed

Would be weird to make BF Labs a exception

But since no one really spoke out so far from the invited people, we can only speculate

Only people posting their Invite Mails for Reservation lol

[dense creek]

All I want them to do is at least tell us that they ARE sending invites when they do so. If they don't say anything at all then most of us will never know it happened in the first place

And by them I mean EA

[mild girder]

And now you are out

[fleet robin]

that's kind of the point

we'll get announcements from time to time, but it's under nda

[dense creek]

Yeah I get that

[mild girder]

I wanna go back in time and play BF1 for the first time again

[signal vigil]

Same

[mild girder]

Performance was ass for me back than (F to my old i5 2500k)

[tepid plinth]

The beta was back when I was in my ‘don’t care about performance, decisionmaking, self improvement, just look at cool explosions’ phase, and it was certainly full of cool explosions

[feral garden]

Oh man, I played BF3 on a 2500k 😄

[signal vigil]

I played on Xbox one and it was still insanely fun

[tepid plinth]

Was the game that had me convinced they spawned in explosions purely for ambience

[signal vigil]

Dude same actually, and honestly

The vibes were good 🤌🏼

[mild girder]

And i still remember the Kid leaking the BF1 Alpha lol

will never forget that

Maybe the same kid got invited to BF Labs now and will stream it too lol

[vague barn]

I remember getting BF4 and playing it with my 660 Ti and a processor I can't remember.

Boy, was that fun.

Luckily I also played Arma with the same setup, so I wasn't exactly spoiled with FPS.

[mild girder]

VP9_Pistol_9mm Rest in Piss

[vague barn]

No fucking way he named himself after the modern equivalent to the Welrod.

[mild girder]

was probably his dads account btw idk

[feral garden]

I had a GTX 680 for BF4, and it died after the first day of the beta. I sent it back to palit, and they replaced it with a GTX 780

[vague barn]

Actually, wait, HK also has a VP9 which is a significantly more conventional pistol.

[tepid plinth]

Surprised your frames weren’t in the negative

Meanwhile I had to try and run bf1 on a 750TI and a 4690k

[fleet robin]

i remember my time with arma 3, had about 20 fps for hours on end

[vague barn]

I was playing a slideshow presentation. Luckily, as a platoon medic in those days, you don't need many frames as you're staring at the ground most of the time.

God, I remember the awful period just after Hacksaw Ridge released and the medical part of my community at the time was swamped with people who really wanted to be medics but not carry any firearms.

[mild girder]

btw i was able to get a 9070 XT for MSRP

Life is good

[vague barn]

Congratumalations

[mild girder]

If i cant get into Labs, i will at least get this W

[feral garden]

GG on getting it for MSRP! Its great at that price, but not a cent more 😄

[mild girder]

people were buying it on ebay for 899-999€

which is insane

(also a MSRP Model)

[timid needle]

this a PC thing?

[feral garden]

Yeah, someone in #technology paid 940 USD for one...which is something else

[mild girder]

[timid needle]

sry to interrupt, hi everyone 😀

[mild girder]

Some people really live on FOMO

[vague barn]

FOMO life 💔

[tepid plinth]

Tbf stalker 2 is the only game that’s gotten me wanting to upgrade, but I don’t even know how much stronger the new cards are and whether it all hinges on ai stuff or not

[feral garden]

Spending well over 50% more just cos a review said its a great card...ignoring the fact that said review was only positive cos the GPU is 599 MSRP

[mild girder]

I can understand if AI Companies buy at these prices since they need the new AI Tech, but as a Gamer? naaaaaah

[feral garden]

The only reason I paid 1600 for my 4090 2 years ago, was I was getting literally the best possible GPU for the next 2 years. 2 years later and its still in the top 2 GPUs you can buy.

[mild girder]

4090 still going strong

[tepid plinth]

I try to work with a 5 year gap between purchases

Has been feasible so far

[feral garden]

I buy when its smart to do so, or if selling old parts can pay for majority of the upgrade.

[tepid plinth]

Makes sense

[feral garden]

4090 was an exception, but I knew this GPU would last 5+ years

[tepid plinth]

I just get so paranoid about new stuff breaking that I wouldn’t think of selling the old card

[feral garden]

I went from 3070 > 4090.

[mild girder]

me about to sell my 4070 ti Super and get the 9070XT for just 499$

[nimble bridge]

95% of the players won't care about movement/try to gut it as much as possible, they will only riot if DICE takes away their proneing just like what BC did

[feral garden]

499?

[mild girder]

599 is MSRP

I would get around 100$ from my purchase price if i sell it

[feral garden]

Well youll probably sell a 4070ti Super for the same price you got the 9070XT for, no?

If not more

[turbid timber]

when downloads

[mild girder]

nope, i will get more for the 4070ti super

[turbid timber]

omg

[mild girder]

Bone just leave man...

[feral garden]

Let him self report, he will get removed from test and muted like the other guy just did

[mild girder]

i think he is just a troll

hope he never gets invited

[turbid timber]

when i get to play battlefield 6 😭

i applied but theyre not emailing me

[mild girder]

gotta ask yourself why

[turbid timber]

😟

[mild girder]

anyways im going to bed now

[vague barn]

Enjoy your death demo

[mild girder]

[half halo]

[mossy marten]

[gritty hearth]

Okay guys, I know what the name for the next BF should be.

Battlefield: Blackout

Why?

BECAUSE I’M EXPERIENCING ONE

😔

[merry cedar]

Hi

[silver cedar]

Bf3 or bf4

[silver cedar]

I played

There was guns and they shoot

Pretty cool

[half halo]

Cool

[signal vigil]

REAL

[gritty hearth]

GRAHHHHH

Then release the DLC. Battlefield: Blackout DLC: The Hour Before

😭

[queen flint]

We have Battlefield Blackout before GTA 6 lol jk

[signal vigil]

At this rate we’ll have gta 6 before battlefield labs

[vague barn]

Some dude on the Battlefield Reddit suggested wind deflection and heat mirage for sniper rifles

Now, I count myself as a bit of a sniping nerd and I have longed for a good portrayal of sniping in a video game, but I wouldn't expect it nor want it in a Battlefield game. The amount of hours I have sunk into Arma 3 Advanced Ballistics is quite criminal as that's the closest you can get to an actual sniper simulator today (and that's as part of a mod). However, not even that mod has heat mirage or focus adjustment as this dude suggested for a BF game.

[spice bramble]

Some people are delusional

If I had to choose between the realistic nerds and movement kiddies, I'd be in a never ending dilemma

[pulsar shard]

Movement kiddies are the cringiest

[spice bramble]

True

[pulsar shard]

I could listen to the realistic all day long compared to these movement kids

[spice bramble]

There are people whose only desire is movement

Realistics are just as unreasonable, not that annoying though. Mostly more chilled out people.

[pulsar shard]

Yea guess what those are the same people who complained back on the OG cods aka the squeakers

Because they couldn’t abuse movement

Yeah true realistics are chill people and mature adults compared to those movement kids

[spice bramble]

It's just about gaining as much competetive advantage as possible.

[lyric thorn]

He only suggested that as a way of balancing, he wanted all sniper to ohk to the body. Sniper in bf3 and 4 was perfect. Nothing needs to be changed

[pallid coral]

I wouldn't want this in any game lol

[nimble bridge]

Nah realistic nerds are

I already heard ''hipfire should be useless'' or ''they should remove jumping'' arguments lol

Also funny how your name is about DMC yet you hate movement

[covert nest]

The argument I always see against any form of advanced movement is that it's not realistic. As if the games has always held that standard.

[nimble bridge]

Snipers should one shot kill, players should be as slow as possible just so they can be hit from anywhere, TTK should be fast 🥱

[lyric thorn]

Sniper should only one hit kill to the head

[nimble bridge]

Yes obviously

[pulsar shard]

Where did I hate movement ?

Yes my name is about dmc what has movement has to do with any of this

[nimble bridge]

DMC is a very movement heavy game, first thing you do is launcher attacks in any combat room

[pulsar shard]

I don’t support movement when it comes to battlefield games because so find it delusional to ask for movement in a game like battlefield

You wanna make battlefield the next titan fall go ahead and do it

Or have a better idea make it like black ops 6

[nimble bridge]

I just want movement that's already been in BF, like BFV or 2042

BFV movement with 2042's momentum slides would be perfect

[pulsar shard]

Yes I like the dmc movement but this is a lot different than the fps movement

There is a reason why the most popular and sold battlefields had grounded movement

People want a simple game and the original battlefield back not a wanna be cod game

[nimble bridge]

Nah, BF players don't care about movement lol

OG BF played more like CoD tbh

Old CoD specifically

[pulsar shard]

I liked the BFV movement system expect the slide

I just find it very cringe seeing people slide with their asses on the ground

[nimble bridge]

Sliding is basically modern air strafing from Quake

[pulsar shard]

Yea I know

[nimble bridge]

Air strafing is 100 times more busted than any modern slide, so I prefer sliding

[pulsar shard]

Air strafing is not possible in battlefield

Unless you exploit mechanics bugs like Bf4

[nimble bridge]

You can do that in BF4

[pulsar shard]

Yes Bf4 had a lot of bugs

BF3 never had that

Or the other battlefields

The only thing i remember was the the jumping corners

[nimble bridge]

I think old BF played more like CoD because of useless hipfire, even the SMGs had useless hipfire

[pulsar shard]

Yes it played like og cod kinda

I just prefer simplier movement for battlefield,but in other movement shooters I don’t have a problem

[nimble bridge]

I like movement in any game even in BF, I wouldn't have played 2042 if it didn't had bunnyhopping for example, because otherwise it would just turn into a camping game

[pulsar shard]

Every game has campers you can’t do anything about that

[nimble bridge]

2042 already has fast TTK so LMG or sniper campers would just have more advantage over other players

[pulsar shard]

Even apex legends 😂

[cloud loom]

Is the test starting today? Can't wait to know more about new BF, hope they can release the video soon, and hope that super large maps like 2042 will never appear again

[twilit creek]

No idea, NDA

[nimble bridge]

You can camp in them, I'm not saying they shouldn't. I just want to have more advantage over someone camping in a bush with an LMG from 200 meters ahead, movement allows you to escape from these players

[pulsar shard]

Yea but this is where positioning ,map knowledge and team work plays role

[cloud loom]

But someone will release it anyway on reddit right?

[nimble bridge]

You won't be able to survive LMG fire without movement tech or smoke grenades

[pulsar shard]

Battlefield is A team game not a run gun game like cod where you feel like John wick

Stun Grenades or flash

Would be useful for the campers.

[nimble bridge]

I'm talking about 200 meters, they are useless

BF has high engagement distances

[twilit creek]

NDA, so would be stupid if they did

[pulsar shard]

For 200 meters then snipers is the only solution

Or vehicles

[nimble bridge]

Yeah true but I would rather just survive and push to wherever I'm pushing lol

[pulsar shard]

It depends on the map

[nimble bridge]

Instead of going to respawn screen, selecting sniper and respawning again

[nimble bridge]

I don't think DICE will be able to create good maps lol, look at 2042 maps, next BF will be similar

[pulsar shard]

For me it feels more satisfying to get revenge with a sniper or a jet on the campers lol

[pulsar shard]

I hope they are destructable

And similar to bf3-bf4 of course

[nimble bridge]

I don't care about destruction really I hope they won't have massive sightlines reaching from one spawn to another like Stadium or Haven

Or they should add massive spread to the game to limit engagement distances

2042 has little spread

[pulsar shard]

I mean big maps immersion and destruction is what makes a battlefield game

I hope they balance the maps though

Too big is not good (maps)

[nimble bridge]

Map sizes weren't the problem in 2042, they just had massive sightlines from everywhere

[pulsar shard]

I would also love to see a come back game mode of the 120 players

If they can balance it

[nimble bridge]

I don't want 128 players because neither my PC nor EA servers can handle it lol

I would want 80 players though, 40v40, basically 2 more squads on each team anyways

[pulsar shard]

They should optimise the game first

[timid salmon]

where's 5..?

[eternal oasis]

5 is gone

[nimble bridge]

[vague barn]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/1347495120395702352

[pallid coral]

the superior feeling i get of having the first msg in the thread

[vague barn]

lmao

[pallid coral]

it was a nice read, but ngl the tldr was literally:

• optimizing for a 60hz tickrate
• experimenting with gun balance and how they feel
  "reintroduced movement features such as crouch sprint, combat dive and landing roll, and added visual indicators to make it easier to understand when movements such as vaulting or leaning are possible"

[vague barn]

Yep

[raven stirrup]

what does the email look like for the playtest?

[vague barn]

No one knows except those invited, the email is covered by NDA.

[raven stirrup]

ah ok

[dense scarab]

[safe moat]

So… I guess the inevetible will happen and someone will leak the playtest

[cinder crystal]

Oh def

[manic gate]

yep bound to be someone who won't see the clear anti-leak measures employed

[worthy estuary]

Where can I submit suggestions for the new Battlefield part?

[safe moat]

I’ve read the blog. I really hope they manage to get different feelings for weapon types correctly

[tepid plinth]

Oh shit, they actually are sending out news? Well. Will look at that post in a minute

[safe moat]

Also optimizing the movement for 60Hz Tickrate and an attempt to reduce input lag for firing guns is good

[tepid plinth]

Seems the floodgates have opened

Also, movement and gunplay…

My speciality

[mossy marten]

Now we wait and see if they make good mouse input

[safe moat]

Well the leak gates are not open from what I have seen

But the info gates are open

[tepid plinth]

The feedback gates I mean

Does hobbyist know this is up?

[safe moat]

OOH

Global Community Manager for Battlefield just tweeted saying

“Expect to be reading more of these over time, and don't forget to sign up to Battlefield Labs to make Battlefield together with us! 😊

Have a lovely read folks!”

On the Labs blog post on Twitter

[spice bramble]

Hobbyist is on a date with his suppresor rn

[safe moat]

More blogs will come

[misty anvil]

What's New Battlefield™ Game?

[tepid plinth]

Well fortunately I’ve got some nice sections in my ‘hopes and dreams’ document I can use here

[mossy marten]

Its new Battlefield Game

[safe moat]

The one that is currently being tested in closed environment

[spare zephyr]

[oblique spruce]

Hello everybody 💪🏻

[safe moat]

God the concept art look amazing

[lyric raft]

Modern-day setting is a way to go tbf, I will not be surprised if they will add map "Battle of Bakhmut"

[feral garden]

Wheres that from?

[safe moat]

From the new blog post about Labs

[feral garden]

Gives BF3 close quarters vibes.

[safe moat]

Detailing about Movement and Weapon Feel

[oblique spruce]

This image takes me back to the past😭

[dull whale]

Hi @ll

[nimble bridge]

Qrd? Did movement gods won?

[manic gate]

we did

[nimble bridge]

Or did we lose?

[true geyser]

when u thought this was a playtest announcement

[fair widget]

https://x.com/battlefield/status/1897938457378291779?s=46 did they cook?

Bfv movement

And good gunplay???

[feral garden]

60hz servers confirmed I guess

[safe moat]

Basically, they are gonna try to optimize for 60Hz tickrate for momevent, reintroducing stuff like crouch spring, combat die, landing roll and adding visual indicators to easily understand when you can do movement like vaulting and leaning

Overall, it looks like a massive W

[manic gate]

I legit didn't expect them to look to BFV for movement and instead just please the bf3/4 elitists. I'm happy

[true geyser]

Woke up like

[manic gate]

[nimble bridge]

Same

[safe moat]

Also appareantly the weapons are gonna feel different from what I understand

[nimble bridge]

What about controllable slide bro 😛

[safe moat]

ALSO they are gonna attempt to reduce input lag on firing weapons by making bullets appear faster on your gun

[feral garden]

Vaulting up and leaning returning too, nice

[safe moat]

I haven’t seen it but maybe I missed it

[valid night]

is the playtest starting this month?

[safe moat]

Its starting today(according to leaks)

[plain bluff]

everything they said in that blog is good on paper. different weapon classes having different handling mechanics sounds pretty good

[safe moat]

But ofc take it with grain of salt

[valid night]

oh dang hopefully i have luck in the first session

[cinder thicket]

[valid night]

but change is really small

[safe moat]

If you did, you would have already gotten the email

If you didn’t, you are not chosen yet

[fair widget]

Sounds good on paper, hopefully good in gameplay too

[feral garden]

TLDR of what they are testing ATM for those who cant read the article

• Playtest systems stability
• Server performance
• Feel of the different weapon archetypes
• Improvements to aim and control
• Weapon balance and fun factor
• Look and feel of movement
• Moving and interacting within the map
• Combat pacing

[gloomy geode]

I’m glad they are doing bf5 movement

[maiden arch]

[valid night]

its like really unique that community helps to improve the game

[spare zephyr]

From the X article

[safe moat]

They also posted on here

[lyric raft]

Something reminds me going from 45hz to 60hz "What you see, is what you get"

If you know, you know.

[safe moat]

Why am I not surprised looking at the blog post thread and people asking for BF3/4 like movement

[clear kelp]

oh no you are one of those people

"subtick bad"

[feral garden]

I did laugh at that one comment thats was like "Make movement smooth like BF3 or im not playing"...and it has some of the least smooth movement out of every game 😅

[manic gate]

I bet you quite a bit of those people probably never even played those games

[nimble bridge]

I want to see more european maps too honestly, Gibraltar especially

[mossy marten]

If they added an air strafe like bf4, I wouldn't mind it

[nimble bridge]

Gibraltar was also an 2142 map

[safe moat]

The thing with Subtick is that its not that bad. The problem with it is that they used it on a game that doesnt need it

[feral garden]

More EU maps, more like more US maps. Outside hardline we barely see fighting in the US

[clear kelp]

why not

[mossy marten]

Inb4 thanos snap

[lyric raft]

True tho

[clear kelp]

its not

[feral garden]

Explain why its bad

[manic gate]

I hope we get a return of proper middle eastern urban maps too like BF3's

[green crypt]

@tiny marsh dont i now

[mossy marten]

Your message gets deleted

[clear kelp]

dont even bother i already discussed this with those people 1000 times you cant convince them

counter strike community is one of the not so intelligent ones

[feral garden]

Break your playtest NDA > you will be removed from the program > messages deleted from here > Muted from talking > Banned on repeat offences

[safe moat]

True

Reason why I switched from CS to Siege years ago

[tiny marsh]

[mossy marten]

What BSOD said

[lyric raft]

It has flaw in regards to players who have higher vs lower ping. You can take same player, give him 10ms vs 60ms player and vice-versa, results where the bullet land will be different

[clear kelp]

although i think its valve fault that they disclosed subtick in the first place, they shouldn't have done that and people wouldnt complain about it at all

[clear kelp]

thats not subtick lol

[lyric raft]

Subtick plays big part in what other peoples latency is...

[clear kelp]

no it doesnt

[sudden anchor]

Subtick sucks ass on cs2. They should have just switched to 128 tick rate servers like valorant. Valve being cheap even with their £££$$$€€€¥¥¥¢¢¢

[safe moat]

Its like that one time when the old devs of CS said that they specifically changed the numbers of the pings of players(so if you had 100ms ping you would see 80ms on the menu) and people praised them while all they did was just a UX value difference

[clear kelp]

explain why subtick in particular is baf

[feral garden]

"It feels so much better!!!!"

they literally did nothing

[sudden anchor]

Unless you have a ping if zero or close to it, subtick isn't good compared to 128tick

[clear kelp]

yeah or when theres a 5mb update to some text files people all of the sudden say that they ruined performance

[manic gate]

and that my friend, is an example of the placebo effect

[safe moat]

Yea, that’s the placebo effect

[clear kelp]

but its not related to subtick at all

cs2 networking works differently than csgo but its not related to subtick

[lyric raft]

Exactly that, I played on 64 ticks vs 124tick on faceit/esea, it would feel way different, not only shooting-wise but movment wise as well, much smoother. In CS2 with their "subtick" it's hit or miss, it's like between 64 and 124, server does more "guess work"

[tulip prairie]

The most complete movement is Battlefield V, you can run while crouched and spin quickly in any direction while lying down.
Battlefield V was the beginning of the end, but in terms of movement it is the most complete of the saga

[plain bluff]

@safe moat because people are (negative descriptor of cognitive function)

[nimble bridge]

BFV was a hidden gem

[plain bluff]

i dont "hidden" applies to bfv

[clear kelp]

what kind of guesswork lol, its literally just 64 tick server

[tulip prairie]

It's not a Battlefield

[clear kelp]

the subtick just sends a timestamp with each packet/tick when the shot was taken

[sudden anchor]

I die after moving behind a wall a lot more than I did in csgo. It's very noticable. How is subtick not to blame for that? I'm confused by you saying it's not related to subtick? Play in a 128 tick rated game and then switch to CS2. The difference is night and day

[lyric raft]

Yeah right, now take someone with 5ms and 60ms do exact same movment/shot whatever, and your "timestamp" will be off by a fraction of a second... believe or not, but subtick is linked to player ping.

[gaunt knoll]

Most Battlefield players after BF5 either wanted another BF3, BF4, or BF1. 2042 was dreamt of as being that one, or a stopgap for it, but now another BF3/BF4 and more of it for at least 3 additional titles is all that matters.

[clear kelp]

why would you blame subtick in particular when there is so many other factors that decide why that happens

[feral garden]

CS subtick discussion can probably move to another chat...can we actually talk about BF Labs and the new info here like 😄

[clear kelp]

like your ping, recv margins or network jitter

[tulip prairie]

People laugh, but they don't realize that V is where all the platoons disbanded.
It's not Battlefield in the purest sense, the real Battlefields are BC2, 3, 4 and 1

[sudden anchor]

I hope we get a reimagined Karkand map. Discussion closed

[feral garden]

"BC2 is not Battlefield!!!"

See how this sounds, just cos its a totally different game to others?

[wispy valve]

All BF3 & BF4 maps, call it a day

[manic gate]

BC2 had a campaign, Battlefield was all about the MP experience, not campaigns. And larger maps so it's not Battlefield either

Battlefield 2 had modern combat, series was always about ww2 bro, also not Battlefield

[tulip prairie]

Battlefield V is probably the most camper-like Battlefield ever.
You don't go half a meter without being sniped, and if you have to constantly run throwing smoke bombs we have a fundamental problem, the other Battlefields are not like that

[feral garden]

"You cant move side to side or go prone, what is this trash" - BF players at the time

[plain bluff]

bfv is most camper like
sounds like bf1 to me dawg

[manic gate]

Nah, BF1 is perfect in every way and should not be receiving any mildest form of critique

[tulip prairie]

Correct

[plain bluff]

me but for hardline

i find hardline as a game better than 4 or 1

[feral garden]

lol imagine they added the camping sniper shield from BF1 to 2042. How mad people would be

[tulip prairie]

Battlefield 1 It's simply the best of the series

Art of gaming

[wild fractal]

I'd say almost on par with 1 but better than 4 yes

[nimble bridge]

Battlefrontfield 1 🥱

[manic gate]

they legit should do something like that for the next BF so we can filter out some people's takes, you get what I mean

[feral garden]

BF1 had the least movement ability, so lots love it cos it was a way more level playing field.

[plain bluff]

theyre on par for different reasons, but id say that stands

the entire "its not a bf argument" for hardline is lunacy. id gladly share a tweet from a hardline developer saying that from hardline forward BF would be cursed, but i cant

[tulip prairie]

You can't say these things publicly my friend

[plain bluff]

come and get me playa

[feral garden]

Hardline was a fun game, I just didnt care for its theme, or its maps. Especially when BF4 has a better theme (for me) and was still really active, players wise

[mossy marten]

Agreed
Hardline mechanically is better than bf4 even years later

[tulip prairie]

Hardline was a different Battlefield, I didn't mind it, but you can't call it Battlefield for many reasons

[safe moat]

I hope we get a city map like in the new BF like Downtown from Hardline but fitting to the games tone

[feral garden]

Siege of LA

[mossy marten]

And bf1 mechanically is one of the worst

[plain bluff]

list these reasons without any of them being "no fixed wing aircraft" or "the setting", please
@tulip prairie

[safe moat]

Yes please

I wanna have skyscrapers, combat is buildings

A PROPER city

[nimble bridge]

I would've played BF1 more if it wasn't for mortar spam honestly, why do BF players love playing sitting duck 200 meters away from the action?

[feral garden]

Movement sweats when a game doesnt have movement mechanics they can abuse.

[plain bluff]

preach

[tepid plinth]

I mean, I can definitely understand both perspectives when it comes to movement, and have the adaptability to enjoy both, I just prefer it when there is some

[young jetty]

Have yall seen the new concept art 🔥

[tulip prairie]

V compared to hardline is gold, definitely more Battlefield

[safe moat]

I wanna have a Battlefield game where Movement has enough features to be good but also not taking the first spot to win any gunfights

[feral garden]

Accessible and fun for casuals > Accessible and fun for sweats

[safe moat]

Agreed

[tulip prairie]

Battlefield is not Cod

[strange slate]

Lol i played a lot of bf bc2, Golden age for me

[nimble bridge]

BFV catered to both

[mossy marten]

Casual players when a slide is actually useable

[feral garden]

When movement is whats winning you fights, its no longer a first person shooter, its a first person parkour game

[nimble bridge]

[nimble bridge]

Movement and FPS are directly correlated since Doom

[safe moat]

I want a movement that is good and not clunky but also not like the Slide spam from Warzone

[strange slate]

As a sniper ofc, last bf that agressive sniper dont need to make headshots from 5m to kill ...

[feral garden]

Gun fights > movement fights

[feral garden]

Triggering the movement kings

[mossy marten]

If bf1 didn't have garbage gunplay in the first place too

[tepid plinth]

reading through that article, their recoil discussions has me thinking we'll be getting non centred crosshairs again

[mossy marten]

Which sucks

[safe moat]

I would love to see that

A dynamic Crosshair that follows your guns barrel

[tepid plinth]

I hate that stuff

[safe moat]

Instead of a 2D plastered object in the middle of your screen

[nimble bridge]

Article seems to indicate visual recoil honestly I hope it can be turned off in the settings like camera shake 🤮

[plain bluff]

nicely worded, vague and subjective. tells me absolutely nothing. you could argue "battlefield" is a feeling. both games are. calling hardline "not a battlefield" tells me youre a military setting elitist

[tepid plinth]

me when 'every gun feels unique' means you can't see anything when firing

[feral garden]

I dont know why anyone needs to make an assumption like this TBH. All its gonna do is spread mis-information and potential hatred of something we not yet know about

Just wait and see

[versed token]

It's probably going to be an improvement over what 2042 does right now

[wispy valve]

BF3 Maps, BF4 style and weapons, BF1 Graphics. Call it a day

[versed token]

With recoil

[tepid plinth]

because how else can it give hints to recoil direction without veering off screen centre? I'm open minded about these things but that's what it sounds like to me

[feral garden]

Weapon animation

[strange slate]

And bf bc2 sniper dmg model

[wispy valve]

^

[tepid plinth]

if it can remain screen centre, still incorporate that subtle implication of direction without also creating visual crosshair sway i wouldn't have any issue at all

[feral garden]

Like I HIGHLY doubt they spend a year fixing bugs related to off center aim in 2042...only to go "You know what, fuck it...lets do that again" for the next game

[warm magnet]

Didn't bf4 had one map in city?

[nimble bridge]

That would be an extremely DICE thing to do tbh

[tulip prairie]

Nope.
Hardline I said I liked it, but maybe you don't understand that it has little or nothing in common with Battlefield.
It's not that I'm just a soldier.
Hardline is nothing more than a reskin of BF4 graphically updated (for the time)
they took the bases of 4 and put the detective story in there

[mossy marten]

They added visual recoil to 2042 3 years after it launched
Don't be surprised if they do something unnecessary like that again

[tepid plinth]

yeah I'm assuming they'll be taking on the plethora of feedback posts and updated they've made to improve this and not just throw it all out. Would be silly not to

[feral garden]

The visual recoil they added is largely fine. Its just over tuned on some weapons like the deagle

[plain bluff]

sorry man, all im seeing in your argument is setting grievances. i think bf4 is built up on 3 and thats why 4 is a reskin of bf3 but with less soul in it

[deft crown]

Hope we can learn more about the opposing faction after today's play test leaks

[plain bluff]

again, whats (not in common) with other battlefields?

[safe moat]

We kinda know them but that enters to leaks

[deft crown]

Yes but it's vauge

[safe moat]

Yea

[tulip prairie]

You obviously don't understand what Battlefield is if you think that Hardline is even superior to the sacred monster Battlefield 1

[flat stirrup]

play test starts today?

[deft crown]

Like PMC but what it's actually based off of

[manic gate]

is this some elaborate jerking

[flat stirrup]

oh nice

[feral garden]

BF4 for me, is a more complete Battlefield than 3. More styles of combat, more theaters of war, more types of combat (Land, air and sea)

BF3 > BF4 is exactly how BF should have continued to grow IMO. Take whats good from the past game, iterate on that, make a new game. Instead of throwing the past game in the bin > Make new unrecognizable game

[safe moat]

Also it might be today for another timezone but tomorrow for another timezone

[plain bluff]

please stop moving the goalposts and ANSWER MY QUERY. what does Hardline not have in common with other BF titles?

[tepid plinth]

I suppose another take on this idea could be weapons themselves maybe rotating in your hand while shooting. Like how valorant's tilts side to side, but it stays screen centre but that visual of it rotating is a cue as to it's rough recoil

[mossy marten]

Mortars not existing

[feral garden]

the main diff is Police > military

[plain bluff]

i was sh*tposting on how the game felt compared to one another. yeah, i mean it, but youre correct

[safe moat]

On the top of my head, the progression system is different. Instead of leveling to unlock stuff you “buy” them using the ingame cash you earn by playing matches and getting kills

[plain bluff]

which fit the theme completely and gave more choice on which guns you want to try. it was a smart decision

[safe moat]

The second is the setting of the game, instead of being heavily military focus it was focused more on civilian stage and cops and robbers

[nimble bridge]

Visual recoil makes portal guns unusable

[safe moat]

Agreed

[echo mural]

Its constant a new game bc of studio's. The upcoming BF will be designed by 3 studio's, this is said in the 'lab' video.

It also mentioned that this game cannot be made with the help of outside studio's.

Just a money/manpower issue

[feral garden]

The recoil on the portal gusn makes them unuseable

[plain bluff]

a heavily militarized setting that'd more closely match heavy police forces versus a giant cartel. given the setting, you'd only be missing cannons and jets.

[feral garden]

DICE are making the foundation for the MP, the other studios are making other parts of the experience

[echo mural]

We don't know that

[manic gate]

and they have been since 2022 at the least

[nimble bridge]

Nah, like M39 EBR, it has little recoil actually but visually it's a mess

[feral garden]

DICE > Game core/MP
Motive > MP Maps/SP assets
Criterion > SP Campaign
Ripple Effect > Something else we dont know about yet

[nimble bridge]

Or SVD

[feral garden]

We literally do know exactly what each studio is making

[deft crown]

I hope they don't outsource the portal animations this time like they did with most of 2042 portal weapons

[safe moat]

Yea

[plain bluff]

@safe moat
the setting was hardly a concern if you took the time to understand it.

[safe moat]

Yea I do know it, considering that Hardline was my first Battlefield game that I actually got into it

[plain bluff]

every single hallmark a battlefield can have and Hardline isn't one because... people cant get past the setting? id tell them to go play BF Heroes (GOAT)

[safe moat]

Well you asked for anything that is not common between Hardline and other Battlefield games. Those two were the ones that came to my mind immidieatly

[plain bluff]

i just remembered Vietnam had the official WW2 mod. that was cool too

added a flamer

[strange slate]

You know that not all ppl are that old, i bet 40% of ppl here dont remember bf2 etc.

[safe moat]

The setting of the game might look like it doesn’t matter, but some people do care about it and won’t play that said game if it doesn’t fit to how they think about the game’s setting

[tepid plinth]

although bf1 uses that 'spend money to unlock things' type system

[plain bluff]

||in response to an elitist. youre at least contributing compared to a numbskull||

[feral garden]

Not liking Hardline because of its setting and theme is also completely fine. People are allowed to dislike games. 😄

[safe moat]

It was kind of different between Hardline and BF1

If I remember BF1 only used this on lootboxes

[tepid plinth]

nah bf1 gave you warbonds on level up to spend on gear

there's a separate currency for lootboxes

[plain bluff]

i... really dont care

[safe moat]

Then I remember wrongly, my bad

[tepid plinth]

which means hardline has one unique feature

I jest, I jest

don't really mind

never played it cause my system was bad

[vital bay]

Hardline was good

[late summit]

Hmu if u a descendant of MLK/Genghis Khan

Planning something big

[tepid plinth]

anyways time to delve into the feedback thread for labs, wish me luck

[safe moat]

I don’t care if the person I talk to is an elitist, white knight or a hater, as long as their point has a bit of sense, I will contribute to the argument with my own point of view, no matter how different to the other person’s point of view

[plain bluff]

he wasnt making any points. he was pointing fingers and saying "not my battlefield"

[safe moat]

Yea I know

Which is why I responded to you and not him

[plain bluff]

noted. lets drop this convo

[safe moat]

Agreed

[flint nymph]

is V still worth playing or should I stick to 1

[strange slate]

On consoles yea, on pc dont know 😉 PC is bf 3/4 for me

[safe moat]

Last time I played 4 on PC it was unplayable due to server issues and annoying type people

But that was like in 2020

[flint nymph]

4 is fine

[safe moat]

Maybe I should retry playing it

[flint nymph]

Just gets boring when all servers are golmud and locker

[versed token]

I played 4 a few months ago and there were like 3 active servers

[strange slate]

On console it looks too blury in 4k, pc is fine tho

[safe moat]

I also don’t wanna go and get stomped by the same 60 people

Maybe should redownload 1

[flint nymph]

1 is peak

[scarlet sundial]

1 is good for infantry only

Infantery

[strange slate]

Does 1 solved cheat issues on pc ?

[flint nymph]

1 vehicle combat >>>> any other bf

[scarlet sundial]

Iug

[vital bay]

I hope it has some bf2 elements

[scarlet sundial]

1 is the only battlefield I didn't learn how to use any vehicule

[flint nymph]

1 is the only bf where aerial combat is fun

[scarlet sundial]

That was the worse

Battlefield 3

Is the peak

[strange slate]

Bf 5 have better imho, lot of planes to pick from

[flint nymph]

never played bfv for more than a couple hours

[plain bluff]

lots of planes to pick from but only a few work

ingenius

[scarlet sundial]

Bf3 and BF2042 are the only decent jets

V was mostly because the bombers

1 were just toys

[strange slate]

Few works? Some of it need teammates so you dont get trashed by fighter planes, if full team goes bombers they lose

[nimble bridge]

I'm a descendant of Genghis Khan, what do you need?

[plain bluff]

you get two choices between 109's and one can do both jobs. same for the corsair, zero and mosquito

they tried to make them differ in role but in the end it didnt work out well

[late summit]

I will contact you on this plan later on.

[flint nymph]

ur ancestor killed my ancestor. for this I shall drink thine blood.

[late summit]

I can’t get this plan out there

[plain bluff]

yeah, can you keep that shit out of the channel?

[flint nymph]

🥀

[late summit]

This is another person hired to jeopardize my plan. Don’t interact with him

🥀

[strange slate]

You got diff bombers, one for tanks one for ppl, some with heavy rockets some with rocket lot of small rocket that works good in aerial combat.

[flint nymph]

the landmines at ur last base of operations killed 20 of my men 🪫 🪫 🪫 🥀 🥀 🏚️ 🏚️ 🏚️

[plain bluff]

peak brainrot

[soft tree]

@plain bluff it's TedStriker412 to you sir 😜

[tepid plinth]

we cannot help unfortunately

[jade orbit]

Who can I contact to fix this problem?

[tepid plinth]

honestly not sure

[spare zephyr]

👉

[tepid plinth]

I'm assuming they must have some kind of internal channel or contact point, but as it's under non disclosure, nobody here can help or knows where to go

[jade orbit]

ok thanks for the help

[tepid plinth]

if you got some kind of email, check there I guess. I got no such thing so I don't know

one of the lucky few unable to play it :<

[still wren]

majority

Not few

[pliant tinsel]

Congratulations to those who were accepted.

[still wren]

Your NDA was in the sign up form.

You already agreed.

And you shouldn't be sharing if you're accepted or not.

[feral garden]

Having just re-read the agreement, I dont actually think the above is true.

[still wren]

Please keep in mind that everything related to EA Playtesting is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. This means no posting or sharing details of this Playtest, including the content of this email, in person, on social media or anywhere else. Acceptance of the Pre-Release Game Program Policy, EA User Agreement, and EA Privacy & Cookie Policy are required to participate "

[feral garden]

It is publicly available so feel free to verify, but what the EA playtesting pre release agreement states is

You may not share, publish, disclose, distribute, transmit, post or make available, directly or indirectly, Confidential Information to any third party, until EA publicly releases the product(s) or content you are reviewing. However, you may disclose the existence of the Pre-Release Feedback Program and that you are a member of the Pre-Release Feedback Program.

[still wren]

That was in the survey email

Can I DM you a screenshot?

[feral garden]

No, you can read the pre-release agreement. Im aware what the emails say (Im saying this to remain on topic/factual, not trying to be snotty or stuck up 😄 )

Its readable from the bottom of the playtesting hub for all people with playtesting accounts

[still wren]

Okay I stand corrected

Thanks

[cerulean wharf]

It may be cloud streaming?

[feral garden]

I guess they put that statement as boilerplate in the playtest emails, in the event that specific playtest details are alluded to in said emails. But at least from what I see in the agreement you accepted upon sign-up...players are free to disclose that they are a part of said playtests.

Players are just not allowed to talk about the contents of that test, or what was shown/info given thats related to said tests

[molten cloak]

Same problem

[feral garden]

You wont find a solution here unfortunately

I would advise logging in to the playtest hub, and seeing if any additional info is presented there

[molten cloak]

I try

But nothing new no second email or info

[plain bluff]

you people are conflating the fact you're a candidate for playtesting, not an actual playtester

these two arent the same. if you had been chosen to participate in a playtest, itd be very obvious

[molten cloak]

Not a candidate

But we cant say anything about the playtest

[plain bluff]

ea support is the only way you can get help. or cross your fingers and try to message a representative on discord

[half halo]

Reading the devlog (I love those, they need to do more), Makes me even more disappointed to not be part of the playtest

[tepid plinth]

I know :<

would have loved to see what these new systems are like and give some input on it

[feral garden]

Its good that they have so openly stated their vision for movement and gunplay tho

[manic gate]

Shows they're confident in what they're about to present to the first testers

[half halo]

I agree that looks pretty cool

Sorry for the milsim crowd ahahah

[half halo]

With my badluck, watch me not getting invited to any sessions this year

Anyway, I really hope people give proper feedback, it's essential

[safe moat]

I agree aswell

BF is not a Milsim game

and this comes from a Milsim game fan

[eternal oasis]

I think they will, they help the game for their own experience aswell

[half halo]

And I hope the weight of the feedback from veterans and regular FPS players is higher than let's say the Sims or racing game players

[half halo]

Don't overestimate how many of the 1.5m Who signed probably never took part in a playtest, don't really care about the playtests and just want a New game to play

[plain bluff]

you expect gamers to have skills in managing time and money (irl) or being competent drivers (irl)? impossible

[half halo]

🤣

[plain bluff]

milsimming is all about cosplay. its about the illusion

[safe moat]

I also agree aswell

[eternal oasis]

Yeah hope its not the latter, sure fun to try a new game but still

[safe moat]

Milsim is basically RP'ing in a sandbox enviroment

[plain bluff]

battlefield with correct cosmetic options can be pretty mil-simmy

[half halo]

In aesthetic, sure. In gameplay? No

[tepid plinth]

was surprised to see any kind of log about this, it's pleasing to the eyeballs

[plain bluff]

im saying aesthetics trump over gameplay in a game setting

for milsimming that is

[tepid plinth]

half of what was said I was fully expecting, but so much of it can be interpreted differently I still look forward to seeing specifics

[plain bluff]

and god knows ill be the one doing it

[half halo]

I love devlogs

[plain bluff]

devblogs are awesome. hoi4 and stellatis are particularly fun to read

[tepid plinth]

my 23 pages looking strong 🦾

[heady trail]

Crouch sprinting seems to be back, im crying

[half halo]

I already said Many times, but it's what missing from a lot of AAA game devs nowadays, clear transparency about what's going on. Sure it could affect market prices of actions based on player reception, but for diehard fans, it's pure bliss

It's why like some mods (Battlefield or other games) got a lot of Community involvement, with weekly devlogs and such

[tepid plinth]

at the very least gives people something to talk about when you have an entire year with no news or content to discuss

[half halo]

I like having glimpse of what's cooking Behind the scenes

[vague barn]

Good morning

[half halo]

Yes!!!! HoIV mentionned!

[plain bluff]

didnt care hard enough to make mine, but i still have that class balance and weapon distribution one around.
plus that entire "momentum" rant from before.

[vague barn]

I feel like weekly devlogs for BF Labs would be a poor idea. Post-launch I would like to see it though.

[half halo]

@vague barn good morning dear Friend

[tepid plinth]

i've gone and rewritten mine from the ground up

[half halo]

I agree

[slate brook]

am I supposed to see this channel or this is actually public, because I'm very sure the invitation is limited for US/ EU for now (I'm from SE Asia)

[tepid plinth]

tried to make it more key-note-y as opposed to just massive paragraphs

[plain bluff]

dm me the thang, my kang

[vague barn]

During the BF Labs pre-launch period I think monthly updates could be cool though.

[spare zephyr]

This is a public channel so open to everyone 👍

[vague barn]

Tbh I should rewrite mine as well

[tepid plinth]

there will be plenty

[modern junco]

Thats cool...just check the labs page dates I guess?

[feral garden]

You're not allowed to state dates and times of tests. Delete

[versed token]

Shouldn't even say you got invited tbh

[modern junco]

Sorry thought this channel isnt an open one

[feral garden]

Pre release agreement states you can say you're a tester, just not details on the tests.

[mild girder]

Well, guess he will be uninvited soon

[signal vigil]

Checked my email first thing in the morning, saw it was from EA, flipped out in exuberance, noticed it was a split fiction ad

[mild girder]

Peak Game

[signal vigil]

Real, I’m excited for it

But battlefield

Yo I’m happy about crouch sprinting returning

And I’ve never got combat roll to engage in bfV but it’s cool that’s coming back too

[covert nest]

Yeah it's not a bad feature.

[kind dirge]

The combat dive sounds awful

[covert nest]

Why is it when dice tries something different people get mad but then when they don't people do regardless lol

[safe moat]

More like most of gaming community when companies try to do anything

[covert nest]

PRETTY MUCH

[kindred shale]

I heard that we got a closed play test?

[wispy ore]

Because it is a different group/set of people.

[safe moat]

Company does something new
Community: We want new things
Sometime later
Community: The new thing sucks, we want the old things
Company does the old things
Community: Why do they always do the old things?

[tepid plinth]

or my favourite:

You don't want armour plating with weapon based movement speeds, limb based damage and arma style medical systems? Must be a casual cod arcade movement lover who buys all the dlcs, games and skins.

[minor linden]

People love to complain

[safe moat]

As a Milsim nerd, even i hate those people who want hardcore systems in EVERY game

even if the game is not suited for it

[tepid plinth]

i'm glad I've played enough games to not enforce certain playstyles and actually be open to opposing opinions

[safe moat]

Agreed

[tepid plinth]

I may call myself the movement lover but non movement focused games are still fun

[safe moat]

Not every game has to be the same thing

[tepid plinth]

just some people seem to think it's a binary thing, love it or be against it to no end

[safe moat]

We dont want the entire industry to be a Tarkov Copyclones

[minor linden]

Or:

You don’t want super fast movement and gunplay, insane gadgets, and no atmosphere? Must be a milsim lover

It really goes both ways. As you said, people think too binary

[tepid plinth]

it's often funny seeing people on reddit even outside of this community discussing whether X game is arcade or milsim

so many pointless arguments over a tag that doesn't even properly define it

[safe moat]

may i say the people who do this are unironically more annoying than people who discuss Snyder and Gunn on DC?

[tepid plinth]

like 'arma 3 isn't actually a milsim, it's a casual sandbox shooter'. Then people just fight to the death

[safe moat]

oh god, I remember the effects of that

[plain bluff]

but that description is literally true

[safe moat]

I cant suffer that yelling between eachother

[safe moat]

It is true

[tepid plinth]

the discussions during the squad ICO update had me wailing with laughter at times

[plain bluff]

usually when arma3 communities want "milsim", it usually involves more complicated systems for soldiers and vehicles

extra steps for not much gain

[vague barn]

Milsim in Arma communities is not black and white, there are a thousand shades of grey in between.

[plain bluff]

hobbyist just so you know, ACE is stupid

[vague barn]

I love ACE ❤️

[plain bluff]

and so is Task force radio

[vague barn]

That I agree on, I much prefer ACRE2.

[tepid plinth]

it's understandable in most cases. Remove some layers of abstraction to give greater weight to elements of the game you want to focus more on, but it's just of course some people prefer that abstraction

been having this discussion a lot in relation to Stalker a lot actually

[plain bluff]

scratch that, any communication interface

arma 3 has channels built in already

[vague barn]

Whatever floats your boat and doesn't sink mine, chummy.

[safe moat]

I prefer Teamspeak

[plain bluff]

i cast unexploded ww2 mine

[vague barn]

True, but you can't (easily) configure multiple command channels separately or have separate Air-Ground comms channels.

[plain bluff]

it lost to discord, sadly. we had a server of our own back in the day

[tranquil knot]

Yes team speak

[safe moat]

It can come back, as it just had a major update. They just need to release public server files so you can host your own server

[tranquil knot]

Me too

[vague barn]

Which is quite important when you have a lot of moving parts in milsim "operations" with upwards of 70 people, with a fully functional CASEVAC chain, ECAS nets, FAC nets, then you have platoon to company level comms that need to be separate from the platoon to section level communication channels.

[trim wyvern]

Ooo, even better. Would love to see that email but feet to the ground probably a super small first test lol. Just want BF2/BF4 feel back

[plain bluff]

ts6 looks like a discord fork

[safe moat]

They released a Blog today talking about Movement and Gunplay feeling

[mild girder]

Lol there is already TS6?

[trim wyvern]

On the website?

[safe moat]

#1347495120395702352 message

[trim wyvern]

I saw a small blurb on Twitter

[safe moat]

on here and on Twitter

[mild girder]

its not unknown lol has been known for 3-4 days

[safe moat]

I said the hour of it

Unless its also known

[vague barn]

Oh, if you think ACE is stupid, you'd love KAT Medical.

[mild girder]

like i said, the time is not unknown

[feral garden]

These threads seem super hidden to me. Is it like that for others?

[mild girder]

not really "super hidden"

just a normal Thread

[safe moat]

I dont know, i just pressed #1335997362258186292 and scrolled down and saw the thread

[vague barn]

Nope, I can see them just fine in the #1335997362258186292 channel.

[safe moat]

Unless the channel isnt highlighted on you at id:customize

[feral garden]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[safe moat]

Like Support Deck and Discord feedback isnt highlighted for me

[vague barn]

When invited

[mild girder]

fr

if people are invited and still dont know when it starts, seek professional help

[young jetty]

That concept art is giving me showdown vibes who agrees with me?

[tepid plinth]

Now they need to put the whole email in a big red box

[jade peak]

Ello all 👍

[half halo]

That would excites them even more

[spice bramble]

I find it hilarious how news sites literally copy the text 1 to 1

Like what the hell

[mild girder]

and then 99% of all People believe the playtest will only be for PC lol

[plain bluff]

"READ THIS OR YOU DIE TONIGHT"

[mild girder]

Just copy someone elses work and call it a day without doing their own research

[half halo]

90% of journalism in 2025

[nimble bridge]

2142 actually had armor plating based movement, you could equip armor like 2042 but it decreased your stamina

2042 has many 2142 features for some reason

[teal dune]

why did I not receive an invitation to the playtest

[mild girder]

Because they can

[teal dune]

im a former Battlefield veteran and I think that decision is pretty diabolical and wrong to not send me an invite

[mild girder]

lol its not that deep

[clear viper]

They select people randomly. They want a wide variety of answers. Being a veteran wouldn't improve your chances, though they definitely will be recruiting BF veterans

[mild girder]

Invites are mostly randon, doesnt matter if you played over 10k Hours in all BF Games, been invited to other Playtests etc.

[teal dune]

This is just wrong guys...

[nimble bridge]

I think only youtubers and pro players are guaranteed to be in like Jackfrags or Levelcap

[mild girder]

Its not lol

[nimble bridge]

They always playtest these games before everyone else

They just don't talk about it lol

[feral garden]

This guy is just looking for attention. Ignore them.

[teal dune]

Wait! Did they even send out invites yet?

[mild girder]

Yes but only to the cool kids

[feral garden]

Yes, you didn't make the cut.

Better luck next time

[teal dune]

Seems like they forgot to invite the coolest one😔

[mild girder]

you are NOT cool

[teal dune]

I am the definition of cool

[mental current]

How to download it to ps5

[mild girder]

Cringe*

[mild girder]

Get invited and you will know lol

well now you are not invited anymore, congratulations

[teal dune]

I just checked my mail and I got invited... whos the cool kid now huh

[mild girder]

Not anymore

because you broke the nda

simple as that

[mossy marten]

Bro's about to be thanos snapped

[late summit]

Just wait

You will eventually get it

[mild girder]

you did lol

[mild girder]

ZAP HIS ASS

[feral garden]

NDA states you can say you are part of testing. So incorrect

You just can't state dates, times or the contents of what you tested/will be testing

[tacit otter]

Does anyone know when Labs will start?

[teal dune]

Im part of testing

[mild girder]

and i work for EA

[nimble bridge]

2 hours later

[feral garden]

I work for Disney, wrong company. Damn

[teal dune]

its okay. maybe you will be invited next time

[mild girder]

You are one edgy german kid

[teal dune]

You must be german aswell

[mild girder]

only god knows

[teal dune]

schlingel

[vague barn]

atomschlumpf

[nimble bridge]

HilfeMeister?

[teal dune]

DerHilfeMeister

[mild girder]

TELEFONMAST!

[nimble bridge]

[vague barn]

spitzerschoss mit eisenkern

[plain bluff]

why are you talking about a pointed bullet with a steel core

[mild girder]

bc these are cool

[vague barn]

Because I can! >:(

[plain bluff]

i wurf flammen from my hinterteil because of heiß essen

[vague barn]

Genau

[mild girder]

SCHWERER PANZERSPÄHWAGEN SIEBEN KOMMA FÜNF ZENTIMETER SONDERKRAFTFAHRZEUG ZWEIHUNDERTVIERUNDDREISSIG

[regal sapphire]

Just to be sure and ready next time: you get the invitation the same day or what? And here in Discord or also email?

[nimble bridge]

Invites are sent like 2-3 days ago I assume, we ain't getting in bruh

[regal sapphire]

Nono, I know. I just didn't know if it was the same day or days before

Thanks

[vague barn]

Heavy Armoured Reconnaissance Vehicle 7,5 cm Special Purpose Vehicle 234.

[plain bluff]

the fact i know this is a pak puma i want to kms

[vague barn]

Saaaaame

[plain bluff]

also, its 234

[civic star]

When are we playing this damn battlefield labs

[nimble bridge]

2 hours later

[mild girder]

when we get invited

[mossy marten]

Testing****
But if you get invite in email
Otherwise SoL

[civic star]

Have they sent any out? Have they confirmed?

[sharp phoenix]

N! D! A!

[spare zephyr]

[civic star]

👍 sweet thanks

[tough zinc]

dont be sad that's just how it works out sometimes

[rough remnant]

i got a second qustionere after i had signed up for labs but i just closed it down. and now theres no way for me to redo it

lol

[sturdy ivy]

is a beta actually happening today

[mild girder]

ITS NO BETA

💀

[rough remnant]

its a prealpha and i think its nda

[nimble bridge]

We will play Beta in summer

[sturdy ivy]

I thought that article had it wrong
what is a pre-alpha????

[nimble bridge]

Most likely

[mild girder]

Summer 2030

[mild girder]

ask google

[nimble bridge]

[sturdy ivy]

I guessing you don't know either got it

[feral garden]

Pre alpha is a game in a state where it is not content, or feature complete

[mild girder]

I do lol im in an Pre-Alpha/Alpha rn aka Deadlock

[rough remnant]

im in another prealpha of a game thats not under nda and its extremely playable and feels like a complete game

so idk how developers pick the titles nowdays

[mild girder]

BF Labs will be 100% a Pre Alpha with many missing Textures, Placeholders and many bugs

[vague barn]

I have a suspicion some devs use it as an excuse

"oh this mechanic sucks"
"well yeah its pre alpha so we'll fix it at some point"

BF Labs I fully imagine to have an actual prealpha appearance though. Blockout levels, bugs, missing textures, incomplete mechanics, etc

[flat stirrup]

I think some people will live stream on their discord channel while playing the test

[mild girder]

Well the missing Textures will be there, you could even see them in the Labs Video

[vague barn]

Yeah.

[flat stirrup]

because the same thing happened in the alpha test of bf 2042

[sturdy ivy]

a pre alpha phase of a large scale wouldn't make sense

[mild girder]

?

Large Scale Playtest = more feedback lol

[tepid plinth]

Even then it’s only a few thousand

[sturdy ivy]

yeah more feedback would make sense but if your game is only 10% ready, what feedback are you expecting to get besides well who knows, it needs serious work

[rapid fox]

It would be much better to have feedback 1 month before release

[tepid plinth]

That’s why you ask specific questions about specific mechanics

[mild girder]

Test the things the are the most important rn?

[tepid plinth]

Get lots of perspectives from people about movement and gunplay, use their user persona from the playtesting site to ascertain their preferences and then make changes based off that

[sturdy ivy]

I wouldn't say a month.
If you are trying to get the game out by Jan. you start Alpha phase testing around the summer. then beta testing within a month to test server limits

[rapid fox]

Tests on early phase is much better because you can still change things when you are not far away

[mild girder]

You dont know anything about game development lol

[sturdy ivy]

like what the gameplay????
most games change a lot just from regular Alpha testing

[sturdy ivy]

you obviously don't either

[rapid fox]

That is the point... so it changes to the right direction...

[deep mica]

this community is..

[rapid fox]

No tests bad early tests bad late tests bad

[mild girder]

More than you apparently

You had to ask what an pre alpha even means

[sturdy ivy]

because most developers don't do pre-alpha unless they are desperate
and that per-google

[mild girder]

😭

[sturdy ivy]

so unless they are deseperate for feedback from a company that been doing this for like 20 years. pre-alpha don't make sense

[mild girder]

Typical from a guy that uses a ai profile pic

[sturdy ivy]

back at you

[mild girder]

Rather would see people with anime pics compared to ai slop

[tepid plinth]

That is certainly one of the takes on pre alphas I’ve heard

This exists to help make the game better, it’s not them being desperate, it’s them opening it up to us early because they want something we can enjoy

2042 only started getting marginally better after several feedback threads and updates based solely around implementing feedback. They aim to avoid that and get it right off the bat

Simple as

[shut summit]

and EA been doing playtesting for a few years now, they just went a bit more focused with battlefield

[heady trail]

how much longer until the playtest starts?

[shut summit]

like open call playtest

[sturdy ivy]

yeah that what happens when you rush a game
development of games take years especially if they want it done right
feel like most people blame investors for short development timeline

[tepid plinth]

And what they are doing now is the right play

[golden patio]

Anyone know what time the play tests are today?

[mild girder]

You are dumb

[sturdy ivy]

this is from a guy that uses an anime AI picture

[rapid fox]

You don't even know why dice had less time on this

[sturdy ivy]

why do you think so

[rapid fox]

Okay, say it then?

[vague barn]

Would it help if I said the same thing?

[sturdy ivy]

say what I am asking you

[rapid fox]

Why did dice had less time and "rushed"?

[sturdy ivy]

I literally asked you why you think that

[rapid fox]

yeah that what happens when you rush a game
That's your quote. Why did they rush?

[shut summit]

man take it to the streets

[sturdy ivy]

read the whole message

[rapid fox]

I did. You blame investors too or what?

I have asked you a specific question

[shut summit]

either kiss each other or 1v1 in bf1942

[sturdy ivy]

Literally said the investor

ya'll slow

[rapid fox]

And you are speaking random nonsense

[rapid fox]

Or, they have failed to refactor Frostbite in time they asked

And worked on refactor for 2 years instead of 6 months

After that Ripples developer Portal in a very short period of time so they would have at least some content

Also I believe that "game goes ahead in development" was a lie from dev side to ea/investors

[sturdy ivy]

Oh so you think it was issue with the engine they were using??

[rapid fox]

Always has been

[mental current]

Battleroyale must be in new BF. Not Hazard Zone. Better smth like in DF

[sturdy ivy]

I could agree with that

[fair widget]

The issue was working from home and Frostbite Engine

[rapid fox]

Ah yes, remote also, forgot bout that

[fair widget]

It couldn't be upgraded properly in time

[rapid fox]

And EA did give time for upgrade

[mental current]

And kind of app to see stats in mobile

[rapid fox]

But upgrade was done in 4x of initial deadline

[fair widget]

Also BF2042 was supposed to be a Battle Royale but was changed last second to a "normal" BF game

[mental current]

Like Battlelog

[fair widget]

Which made the nmhave only a year of proper devlopemnt time

[rapid fox]

And this is why they want to test things earlier also

[sturdy ivy]

really that I didn't know

[rapid fox]

It would have been clear that nobody wants specialists

[shut summit]

wonder how skins gonna work now

[mental current]

@fair widget hazard zone is like 10% of cods DMZ

[sturdy ivy]

idk delta force has specialist and it fits well with their gameplay

[fair widget]

Working from home would take ages just to update the game devlopment and shiot. Stuff that would take 10 min would take maybe hours

[rapid fox]

Is delta force battlefield?

God

[fair widget]

Delta forde is jsut a polished Bf2042

[sturdy ivy]

just saying that concept can work as long as they do it properly

[fair widget]

It's not even close to a BF gamew

[rapid fox]

As it did in cod...

[shut summit]

factions and classes all battlefield needs

[rapid fox]

this tbh

[mental current]

Maybe 5ppl in squad ? It can be kind of progress

[shut summit]

lets get a Commander as well its time

[mild girder]

It’s not ai lol he never saw Edgerunners

[sturdy ivy]

you never seen an AI of an anime character before......L

[spice bramble]

Technikz, are you AI?

[sturdy ivy]

It suppose to be the spider crip guy from NY

[sturdy ivy]

and I was actually very please with how well that anime did. there not too many games that turn shows that do very well

[mild girder]

You are a 10/10 ragebait

[sturdy ivy]

Naw you just sensitive, get out your feelings

[sudden anchor]

Battle Royale games are boring now.

[mental current]

Your wrong. BR servers in COD is full all time

[sturdy ivy]

companies see how much money games like Fortnite and Apex Legend makes and think to themselves we should do that as well

[sudden anchor]

Look what happened to 2042 when they tried to go down the COD route. This is the reason for the whole transparency and huge play testing. I think they've learnt from their mistakes (fingers crossed)

Battlefield does not need a BR. It needs to just be battlefield.

[tepid plinth]

I would assume at this point it’ll be getting a BR adjacent

Would be stupid to but knowing how they’ve tried twice now to catch onto that style of trend I can see them trying a third

[mild girder]

If you think so

[sudden anchor]

I guess it would be a smart move as I've heard Warzone is in a bad way.

[mossy marten]

[frail tide]

Yeah idk why theyre trying to do some BR bs