battlefield-labs-discussion

[nimble bridge]

It feels like BF1, from movement, ADS, recoil etc. They are vastly different games underneath but from a first glance you will think it's just BF1 with WW2 coat of paint

[wispy dagger]

But Rush on 3 was the main focus I fell

Feel **

[gritty hearth]

Only got BF4 on my Epic Games, even then only the campaign is available. Also also, it can only run on my college's Gaming PCs because my crappy laptop can't run it.

[wispy dagger]

Didn’t get that impression at all with V

[nimble bridge]

It felt like that to me when I played it, then after 30-40 hours I noticed it's vastly different

[mossy marten]

BF3 and BF4 were quite similar tbh
Much more similar than bfv and bf1 which do truly feel like two distinct games

[spice bramble]

Whoever says BF V feels like 1 hasn't played either

aha nvm

[nimble bridge]

You are basing your opinions after playing them 100s of hours

[spice bramble]

I barely have 100 hours combined in them

[nimble bridge]

Not when you first start playing them, they felt very similar

[mossy marten]

when i first played bfv, it felt completely different from bf1. gunplay, movement, vehicles, etc

[spice bramble]

Gunplay in BF1 pisses me off

[mossy marten]

bf4 is bf3, but tightened up

[mossy marten]

yup

[spice bramble]

BF4 lacks BF3s vibe

But they are similar

[wispy dagger]

They didn’t feel similar at all

[mossy marten]

can't play bf1 without a crosshair on screen for center screen

[wispy dagger]

They were vastly different from the beginning

[spice bramble]

I played BF1 and somehow enemies had faster TTK than me

Literally got 2 shot with an SMG to the body one time

[mossy marten]

that was a thing. new players had double damage in BF1

[spice bramble]

And don't get me started on the fucking snipers...

[mossy marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN80TSDKVvA

for anyone to watch

[spice bramble]

I've seen the video but they fixed it

supposeeeeedly

[mossy marten]

been playing recently. haven't been two tapped afaik

smg08 does absolutely destroy tho

[spice bramble]

I swear to got that I was shredded in nanoseconds

[mossy marten]

that's also just classic netcode/desync issues. happens quite often in BF games

[spice bramble]

Probably that

[mossy marten]

even in bf4 i get one framed very often, even on 90Hz servers

[spice bramble]

I was playing on Monte Grappa and tried taking the bunker. Dude was camping the little hole next to the door to see through it. I peeked, barely aimed and already got shredded

I died 3 times in the process trying to blow the damn doors open

[mossy marten]

yeah, those bunkers on monte are pain

especially on operations

[spice bramble]

But then again, I had 3-4KD in the following matches no problem

And then it went downhill again xd

[nimble bridge]

Test

[spice bramble]

And I noticed that knifing in BF1 is also annoying, instead of going into the takedown straight away it locks onto the player

[mossy marten]

solve for x:
3x + 10 = 37

[nimble bridge]

X=9

[mossy marten]

[nimble bridge]

What did I win?

[mossy marten]

another chance to get an invite for BF Labs playtesting

[nimble bridge]

[gentle oyster]

Bonjour

[mossy marten]

🥖

[heady thorn]

[mild girder]

[finite galleon]

[cold belfry]

[cursive ridge]

[heady thorn]

[worn pecan]

Bonjour

I hope they are cooking

[vague barn]

I hope they are developing

But they probably are not at this point in time, at least not DICE.

Which is because in Sweden it is currently 7:30 PM, well after office hours.

[dawn prawn]

and hopefully because it is Saturday

[vague barn]

Also true, but since I have lost track of day it is, still.

[spice bramble]

They better be working overtime

[versed token]

They better not be crunching already

It would mean they're behind schedule

[vague barn]

Precisely this. Hopefully they have a healthy workload and aren't owrking themselves to death. I would rather have a team that sticks around than one that gets burnt out and we repeat the cycle.

[midnight umbra]

я хочу чтобы ты кончил

[dawn prawn]

they better be working in shifts 24/7 so we can have a public beta next week (/sarcasm)

[feral garden]

If they are still working in sprints, they are probably always in a state of crunch.

[spice bramble]

I fucking hope Metro doesn't return

Seeing that map in a rotation makes me sick

[warped lagoon]

Scrum type of Development basically

[feral garden]

Pretty much. It's very common.

[worn pecan]

Haha yeah

Do yall think bf labs means itll be like portal and a mashup of multiple eras

That kinda sounds sick if it is

I hope they make good interactible maps, like bf4 with buttons and stuff like reactors that kill a whole room in a base when you press it

I love when maps aren’t bland and uninteractive like other games

Levolution

[olive solar]

Yea I like small dynamic map elements

[half halo]

Hello all!

[spice bramble]

[half halo]

What's up?

[stray veldt]

hello there

[thorny mantle]

[red tusk]

Howdy

[half halo]

Pretty good, except still haven't received any email

gree

[spice bramble]

This tuesday

Mark my words

[half halo]

I'm talking about the registration email ahah But for you guys, yes it most likely be on Tuesday

[tight glen]

I don’t think they’ve been sent at all yet

[half halo]

Yes, a lot of people have been receiving since yesterday emails confirming registration and that they would be contacted further if selected for the playtest

It's mentionned on Resetera, Reddit and gaming journal

[gritty hearth]

Imagine the people who got emails just got it like.

"Hey possible playtester. Yeahhhh, we're gonna- we're gonna have to take a raincheck...we'll call you."

[tight glen]

I signed up day one, I ain’t gotten an email yet

[gritty hearth]

Not surprising.

Do people here KNOW what PATIENCE is?

[half halo]

@tight glen Same brother, I was in the first 3k but haven't received the email either. I won't leak the email though, I don't want to be banned 🙂

[tight glen]

😭

[tight glen]

NO

[gritty hearth]

They must wait.

[tepid plinth]

If you signed up you’ll get one, just a matter of time. Regardless, you’ve signed up for it

[half halo]

@tepid plinth Unless it's bugged 0.0 I was able to do the survey twice, it probably barred me from any chances. RIP /s obviously

[worn pecan]

[half halo]

I see BF1 exp boost icon, I'm happy

[worn pecan]

I just realised i had missed the survey 💀 maybe it bugged idk since last week it wasnt there

[half halo]

Yeah it's not on the website anymore I think. I can't 100% verify but when I look again, I can't see it anymore.

What really compelled me to do the survey was that it said: "Completing the Survey might increase your chances of being selected for Battlefield Labs Playtests"

[worn pecan]

Yea

[half halo]

So while your number in the queue (to register) was confirmed to NOT have any effect on your chances, the survey might

[worn pecan]

Yes

Still hope i get to try even tho i have less hours available

[half halo]

Same brother... I have enough time to play, but it will depends on the time they want to make the playtests lol

[tepid plinth]

They’ll be looking for all groups of people, don’t worry about that

[half halo]

@tepid plinth What type of movement would you like to have in the next BF?

[feral garden]

Forward, backward, left and right

👌

[olive solar]

You forgot Up and down

[feral garden]

Sir, that is aim, not movement!

[olive solar]

Oh

Bf4 movement was great.

Something similar to bf4 would be interesting

[feral garden]

I feel like the "modern FPS player" wont enjoy BF4 movement. But it all depends on map design

[olive solar]

Ye I see

[burnt juniper]

When will play tests start

[feral garden]

I cant even remember how BF4 movement feels TBH. I played it lots but havent for a while now. Time to download it I guess.

[half halo]

@burnt juniper We don't know yet

Anything between BF1, BFV and MWIII (without slide cancel and tac-sprint) and I would be happy

[burnt juniper]

Alright

Bfv is good ngl

[gritty hearth]

Y'all need to stop asking.

[spark talon]

https://tos.ea.com/legalapp/PRFA/US/en/closed/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=SFMC&utm_campaign=&Title=&Country=%25%25country_code%25%25&Team=gem&Platform=SFMC&Campaign=

[gritty hearth]

What's this?

[half halo]

I'm not clicking

[weary sandal]

Virus

[hallow escarp]

its not a virus

i clicked on it

[burnt juniper]

First time asking buddy

[weary sandal]

Ur like the 200th person

[hallow escarp]

its just a article talking about the ea pre release program aka bf labs

[burnt juniper]

Nope

[gritty hearth]

☝️🤓

It's an exaggeration, dude.

[spice bramble]

it aint

[gritty hearth]

Oh fr?

[spice bramble]

its whatever the opposite of that word is

He might be the 500th at this poont

[gritty hearth]

Minimisation.

[spice bramble]

Understatement

[tepid plinth]

Just, something. Not too much, not nothing, a little something to give fights some juice.

Battlefield is always positioning first. Ensuring you have possible angles of exposure within your line of sight, watching your sides, moving with intent to reduce getting caught off guard and so on. But having no movement options just has it feeling a little stale.

I’d want something that isn’t just a net positive gimmick, like bfV sliding or cod’s slide cancelling, but I don’t want anything as insane as titanfall’s moveset. I want something with the same philosophy as 2042’s - you can use it to help cross open spaces, throw people off in close quarters and make it so in close quarters you need to be on your toes. But doing so can have you even more exposed if you time it or angle it wrong. I like seeing someone use it cause it makes me realise I need to pay more attention, and I like that.

[maiden moon]

Wich Day play test

[spice bramble]

another one

[compact lake]

we dont know bro

maybe in 2-3 weeks

[worn pecan]

[pulsar shard]

What you described is not what battlefield is,battlefield shouldn’t be about movement but focus more on teamwork and positioning
(Nothing personal with your opinion)

[tepid plinth]

I’m not asking for anything more than what battlefield has itself done in the past

That’s why I specifically state that it’s always positioning first

[pulsar shard]

The only thing I don’t like is slide and tac sprint

[tepid plinth]

So, everything

[pulsar shard]

When did battlefield had slide and tac sprint ?

Last time it had slide was BF1 and BFV and 2042

The original was normal

[tepid plinth]

2042 added tac sprint, v had slides, 1 had a much weaker slide, 4 had air strafe and momentum preservation which acted as a form of pseudo-slide

[pulsar shard]

BF4 had bugs that never got focused because the developers were busy creating BF1 back then

[tepid plinth]

It’s not even sliding I care about, it’s the weakest form of movement tech that exists in my eyes. But both 2042 and 4 had movement with more to it than a simple button press

[pulsar shard]

BF3 was the best one - BF1 In my opinion

[tepid plinth]

I never said anything about bugs

[wispy dagger]

Slide is fine if you have to be sprinting for a few seconds before or there’s a cool down

So you don’t get the gimmicky sliding

[pulsar shard]

The strafe momentum was never intended it was a bug animation

[tepid plinth]

It’s not even related to animations

The aerial physics allow for control, and the character controller has less friction on the ground which allows for said things, its intentional

Unless you are referring to the prone slide movement

[pulsar shard]

If it was an official movement then devs would have give an original name for this movement

[tepid plinth]

In which case - I agree that shouldn’t return. All the exploit movement that manipulates hitboxes and sends you flying isn’t good, but I’m only on about regular air strafe and the slide that follows it

It’s more so the philosophy over the implementation I’m concerned with

[pulsar shard]

I agree with you but I don’t agree with exploits

[tepid plinth]

Something that gives you an advantage when learnt, mastered and timed well, but also can’t be spammed meaninglessly

[tepid plinth]

I don’t agree with exploits either lol

[pulsar shard]

I like both BF1 and BfV the only thing I didn’t like at all was slide and unrealistic skins

[tepid plinth]

Which has it making sense why you don’t like what I’m asking for

[pulsar shard]

I just don’t think movement fits battlefield games

A normal jump peek is ok but other than than it doesn’t fit battlefield

[tepid plinth]

That’s about the extent of what I’m asking for - I’m not asking for anything insane, just something that promotes a little aim challenge, aids in open field traversal and makes close quarters a little more exciting

[mossy marten]

Is there people complaining about movement again in here?

[tepid plinth]

Not complaining, discussing

[pulsar shard]

I’m
Not asking for a mil sum btw ,but I don’t like movement in battlefield,I think the new battlefield should promote teamplay - team work

[tepid plinth]

I know, I get that. People assume you either have a movement shooter or a milsim with no inbetween

But it’s a spectrum

[pulsar shard]

Yeah exactly I like something in between

[tepid plinth]

It’s worth noting that I enjoy both styles. Played hundreds of hours in Arma, hundreds in battlefield, hundreds in Titanfall. I can enjoy mostly whatever they throw at me, but my favourite battlefield experiences are the ones that actually test me and pose a mechanical challenge

[pulsar shard]

Yeah I understand,I like movement in apex and titanfall I just don’t think it fits in battlefield universe (my opinion)

[tepid plinth]

How dare you imply that two people can have differing opinions! We can’t be having sensible conversations in here!

[pulsar shard]

You are the most sane debater here btw respect

[burnt juniper]

Nope

[gritty hearth]

[past furnace]

My main request for this upcoming game is to make sure crossplay is opt in and not opt out. Or make crossplay input based would be a good option too. Please. 🙏

[gritty hearth]

Wouldn't Crossplay be on by default though?

[cold belfry]

In the new battlefield I just want gun that goes pew pew fr

[mossy marten]

Thurston doesn't want to play with me when the new game releases

[cold belfry]

I got you bro

[past furnace]

I will. Just not all the time. Don't always want a sweat fest. 😜

[gritty hearth]

Based.

[mossy marten]

I will say most MnK players are pretty bad

[cold belfry]

lol

I need some friends to play the new battlefield with on release day

Who down?

[indigo pebble]

I'm always down for new battlefield buddya

I need to get back on battlefield to get the feel back again been a while 2042 just burned me I enjoyed it from beta and o wards but it just got frustrating with the stupid decisions and playing solo

[wispy dagger]

Hopefully they bring back platoons

I used to play with this global conflict group back in the day that would organize a game every Saturday with 2 full teams, super organized squads. Was really really fun. And they had an “battle map” that would show each team’s progress as the weeks went on

[cold belfry]

Betttt

[half halo]

I want platoons back so much 😦

[nimble bridge]

I hope both a metro remake comes and a new infantry only meat grinder comes with new BF

[nimble bridge]

I finally learned what slide cancel is and I dunno why people complain about that in games outside of CoD lol. You can tac sprint forever in 2042. You don't need to cancel anything. Not like tac sprint is returning in next BF.

[wispy dagger]

Do we know for sure it’s not coming back?

[nimble bridge]

Even if it's coming back tac sprint will be infinite like 2042. No BF will have a limited sprint.

If tac sprint is returning they should just remove regular sprint honestly

I know there is a setting in 2042 but it makes ADS speed a lot worse

Especially for LMGs

Unplayable

[wispy dagger]

When you played it how long did the tac sprint last

[nimble bridge]

It's infinite

[wispy dagger]

lol

[nimble bridge]

Both regular and tac sprints are infinite in 2042

That's why it's useless to have 2 speeds

[wispy dagger]

I’m messing with you. We don’t know if the next one will have it or not is what I’m saying

[nimble bridge]

Oh yeah

[wispy dagger]

I’m ok with a tac sprint

[nimble bridge]

But most likely not

I'm not

Regular sprint should be faster imo

[wispy dagger]

If it’s short bursts

[nimble bridge]

I dislike that in CoD too

[wispy dagger]

Short bursts to move cover to cover is ok I think

[nimble bridge]

BO6 introduced a new perk in fact, that buffs regular sprint and removes tac sprint, I would've used that perk if I still played it

[wispy dagger]

And only if you’re carrying an smg, shotgun or AR

i get it. But we don’t want too fast a sprint either

[nimble bridge]

Tac sprint is never tactical, everyone uses it to go from one side of the map to other side fastest

[wispy dagger]

And there should be an accuracy debuff after tac sprinting

That’s why I’m saying only short bursts

[nimble bridge]

That would make the perk I mentioned even stronger

For CoD at least

[wispy dagger]

Yeah but I don’t think battlefield should have perks

[nimble bridge]

I think it should have subclasses like BFV

[wispy dagger]

Agreed

[vocal tulip]

maybe no tac sprint and just running i dont think bf needs to have crazy cod movement when playing but thats just me tho

[wispy dagger]

I can just think if there’s firing down the street and you want to cross it, it could be beneficial to have a tac sprint for a distance no more than the width of a street

I also hope the armor system does not make a comeback

[nimble bridge]

Thing is you don't need tac sprint for that in 2042, you can bunnyhop which is far safer

[gritty hearth]

Why would regular sprint be faster than a tactical sprint?

...What?

☠️

[nimble bridge]

Tac sprint just shouldn't exist, regular sprint should be faster instead

[wispy dagger]

Yeah but I’m hoping the next one doesn’t have bunny hopping nor is like 2042

[nimble bridge]

I hope it has bhopping like 2042 and controllable slides like BFV 😍

[vocal tulip]

i can agree with this

[wispy dagger]

lol such a troll

[pallid lake]

armor was silly and just superfluous, same with tac sprint. Now, drones? I hope they do more with that.

The lil dog was cool, but it was such a bummer that nothing else ever got added to compete with it.

[nimble bridge]

I hate both ranger and boris turrets

[covert nest]

Armour added nothing except frustration.

[nimble bridge]

We need armor and helmet like CS

[covert nest]

Ironically though I think it'd be quite good at reducing ranged damage.

But as long as your in your weapons range it doesn't help.

[gritty hearth]

Okay, but like...WHY.

You're basically me telling me that regular sprint should be faster just because.

Which isn't really a valid reason.

[nimble bridge]

Have you ever played an FPS game without tac sprinting? That shit didn't existed pre MW19

[crystal fossil]

What is happening ?

What is tac sprinting?

[gritty hearth]

Yes, honestly.

[crystal fossil]

That famous double sprint cod ?

[nimble bridge]

Pressing shift twice

Yes

[crystal fossil]

That looks weird and cod like, bf doesn't need it. A soldier is not agile

[gritty hearth]

Tell that to BF 2042.

[nimble bridge]

It's clunky, doesn't serve a tactical purpose unlike what the name implies, I don't think it should exist in BF since neither sprint nor tac sprint doesn't have any cooldown in BF

[crystal fossil]

F that

Call it a secret cod project

[mossy marten]

tac sprint shouldn't be in the next game, but BF is an arcade shooter, i want the soldier to be agile and not bf1 like

[crystal fossil]

It would be nice for games like bf hardline but now modern military game cuz look, every soldiers have heavy Gears

Damn even russian and ukrainians can't run that fast

In the war

[nimble bridge]

You can run forever in BF, tac sprint makes somewhat sense in CoD since tac sprint is finite in it, not in BF

Even CoD tries to get away with it, both MWIII and BO6 has perks that removes it

[gritty hearth]

Pretty sure it has perks that makes it longer, not entirely erasing it.
Those are two VERY different things.

[nimble bridge]

No, they introduced a perk called as slipstream

[mossy marten]

BO6 has a perk called slipstream that makes base sprint faster at the cost of removing tac sprint

[nimble bridge]

Removes tac sprint, buffs regular sprint

[crystal fossil]

So who is saying that tac sprint needs to be in the new bf

[nimble bridge]

Not me

People are asking ''why it should be removed'' instead

[crystal fossil]

T_T

They're the reason why bfV and 2042 looked cod like

[mossy marten]

........

[crystal fossil]

Argument over

[mossy marten]

BFV was not cod like in the slightest

[nimble bridge]

They don't even realize CoD went to 💩 after they introduced stuff like gunsmithing or tac sprint

[crystal fossil]

Def is if you consider that sliding was utterly awful, else the game would have looked good

[nimble bridge]

BFV ackshually had a controllable slide before CoD

[mossy marten]

sliding doesn't make it like cod 🤣

[nimble bridge]

MW19 copied it

[crystal fossil]

It does toh

Tho

[nimble bridge]

You can somewhat slide in BF3

[mossy marten]

then CoD having ground war makes it battlefield is what you're saying

[nimble bridge]

Run, jump and hold crouch

[crystal fossil]

In the montains thats the only place I slided

[mossy marten]

also worked in bf4 and bfv

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

[crystal fossil]

Anyone ate kiwi pizza ?

[mossy marten]

[gritty hearth]

It went to crap before that. It went to that when they started filling their games with microtransactions.

[crystal fossil]

Bf1 was okay

[gritty hearth]

I've no opinion on Battlefield 1.

Not played it, I just remember when it was being marketed.

Seven Nation Army couldn't hold me back.

[heady thorn]

[civic star]

Anyone know when we should be expecting the playtest starting

[gritty hearth]

I should be asleep.

[gritty hearth]

OH MY GOSH BROOOO

😭

[civic star]

lol i haven’t been on here since they announced

[gritty hearth]

I know but you're like the 530th guy who asked😭

[civic star]

Oh lol so I guess nothing yet then huh

[heady thorn]

Within the year!

[mossy marten]

recent leaks said early 2026

[civic star]

I’m talking about the playtest, yes the release is scheduled for early 2026

[mossy marten]

that's for the playtests

[civic star]

Nah that’s for the actual game release

It would be at the end of the year but they aren’t trying to compete with gta 6 launch

[heady thorn]

[gritty hearth]

You're being trolled, dude.

dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[heady thorn]

Who knows when it'll be, they mentioned the first phase will be in the coming weeks. Which is probably the invites, then playtests would probably follow a few week(s) after that?

We can only wait and see.

[mossy marten]

this person gets it

[gritty hearth]

It was the most obvious troll too, at least to me.

[mossy marten]

i wasn't trying to hide it all that much

[gritty hearth]

W.

Anyway, I'm humming the Battlefield theme rn istg fr fr fr.

Battlefield 3 specifically.

[nimble bridge]

BF6's release date will depend on GTA6, if GTA is released this year, BF6 will skip to next year, if they delay GTA6 to next year then BF6 will come out this year

[mossy marten]

rockstar confirmed fall 2025 like last week

[nimble bridge]

There is a chance it might be delayed like all their last releases

GTAV, RDR2 both had delays

[mossy marten]

we'll see shrugs
atm they should just send invites (to me as well )

[nimble bridge]

The game was delayed three times: before its announcement, an internal delay to the second half of 2017, then publicly to the first half of 2018, and later to October 26, 2018. According to Rockstar, the game required extra development time for "polish".
For RDR2

[heady thorn]

And before Sept 23!

[mossy marten]

true, they did mention GTA VI is releasing efore Borderlands 4

[nimble bridge]

They want to kill Borderlands I guess

[heady thorn]

This will sound crazy, but BL > GTA for me

[nimble bridge]

BF > GTA > BL for me but it is what it is, GTA will eat anything close to it's release

[heady thorn]

I dont really care for GTA, and ive always been a massive BL fan lol

[mossy marten]

GTA i would say is one of the "basic bxxxx" games of video games
along with sports games and CoD

[nimble bridge]

I never enjoyed GTA past San Andreas honestly

My favorite was Vice City though

[heady thorn]

GTA does some cool stuff, but ive never played one for a prolonged time

Always played BL lots tho lol

[vague barn]

Good morning

[maiden moon]

Which day's play test

[vague barn]

No one knows.

You'll get an email if you get selected to participate in it, but we have no idea when the playtest is actually taking place.

[maiden moon]

It's normal I resving date

[visual wharf]

I'm looking forward to the invitations (hopefully selected).

[worldly turret]

Honestly id be fine with any ea playtest at this point (iron man or battlefield pls 🙏 )

[quiet helm]

GTA is probably gonna be that Barbie film, ported to vdo game.

[quiet helm]

No, I totally agree.

Battlelog is way better than Grand Theft Auto.

[quiet helm]

Because of this, I like Rockstar even less now. Didn't think that was possible.

The logic is annoying too. It's like not putting your house on sale because of the run on Pokemon cards.

[mild girder]

Well we kinda do, they said in the coming weeks

But a exact date will never be told publicly so we are all waiting atm

[weary mantle]

you mess with SAMP at all back in the day?

btw, (San Andreas Multi Player) for anyone who doesn't know. It was a mod for GTA:SA on PC and allowed you to buy and own apartments or homes and rob banks or be a cop and arrest players. I played it a bunch back in 2009

[quiet helm]

I haven't enjoyed any GTA since Niko Bellic. Really enjoyed that character and his story, the gameplay, etc.

GTA online is really just a chimpfest.

[safe moat]

Unironically GTA Online felt more like GTA instead of GTA5

[cold belfry]

Truth

[pulsar osprey]

Digital Illusions Creative Entertainment - DICE

[gritty hearth]

Thank you.

[gritty hearth]

💀

[spice moat]

Take 2 investor call said that Gta VI will come out before Borderlands 4 does and we got a release date for that (23 Sep, 2025) so BF could still release this year

[vague barn]

Here's hoping, bud. I kind of hope GTA VI will flop so Battlefield comes around faster.

[spice moat]

im on PC so i wont get to play GTA VI anyway so the sooner the better for me XD

[vague barn]

Same here, GTA never caught my interest more than a "Oh cool might try that one day". Other than GTA V's Trevor character.

Trevor was a fantastic character and the only memorable one imo.

[spice moat]

yea if were lucky as pc players maybe a year later before the PC port of the game possibly longer

[vague barn]

Yeah.

[nimble bridge]

Big chance it might be delayed just like RDR2 was delayed, or GTAV or even GTAV's PC/PS4/Xbone ports

[vague barn]

Yeah, there's always that freak chance.

Oh well, time will tell.

[vale burrow]

huh i thought they said after bl4?

[spice moat]

https://www.gamingbible.com/news/gta-6-release-narrowed-down-894271-20250212

[vale burrow]

yea thats kinda impossible

they said fall 2025 which starts a day before bl4 launches

and take two said they wouldnt release their games close together

just assume nov 2025 if it doesnt get delayed during the may earnings call

[spice moat]

not saying plans have changed, but this is what was said

[vague barn]

I've been thinking about thermal optics in the next Battlefield. While I have no idea how it works in the current build, I would still like to air some opinions and ideas for them.

Using thermal imaging
As I am sure we all know, thermal optics have become increasingly common in the real world. However, these optics are generally used for detection rather than identification, owing to the fact that resolution and detail tends to be rather poor at a distance. I.e. you might see a blob moving, but you won't know what or who the blob is. I believe in order to emulate this, a reduced thermal resolution, coupled with an inability to see friendly/enemy markers through these optics would be desirable for balance purposes.

Countering thermal observation
What isn't usually covered by the media with regard to thermal imaging is the countermeasures that exist to prevent detection of individual soldiers and their equipment. Notably, SAAB Barracuda has developed a thermal camouflage blanket/poncho (Barracuda Soldier System), as well as a thermal signature reducing ghilie suit (Barracuda SOTACS). I believe that these pieces of kit have a, albeit niche, place in Battlefield games. Unlike the real world function and BF4 DICE LA function, I would suggest that, if implemented, these act as a thermal reducing camouflage, rather than thermal eliminating.

Ideally, the poncho (Barracuda Soldier System) would be implemented as a neck to waist concealment cosmetic for the assault, engineer, and support classes. The ghillie suit (Barracuda SOTACS) would ideally be a head to waist concealment cosmentic for the recce class exclusively. Both of these would be acquirable through regular play, so as not to cause a "pay-to-win" controversy. Nominally, these cosmetic items would only be available in one camouflage pattern (dark-grey rock being common) to make them blend in less with the environment under regular observation.

[spice bramble]

Holy yap

[vague barn]

Yes.

[cold belfry]

Smart man

[tepid plinth]

Honestly I’d rather thermals didn’t exist at all.

At face value the inability to tell friend from foe with thermals might sound like a balancing thing, but you can just shoot friendlies and see they take no damage, or spot to reveal their team, or just unscope or using common reasoning. And I do NOT want friendly fire in bf.

But ultimately I’m not really against the idea of thermals. I’m all for visibility, I don’t want someone to blend in perfectly in foliage and avoid a fight, thermals can solve that. A gadget that counters it sounds interesting, as the info it reveals isn’t perfectly accurate and still requires you to check some angles and not rely solely on the vision granted by thermals, but then the benefit of using that gadget is so circumstantial and passive that it would almost feel like a waste of a slot

[crystal fossil]

Gta 6 is gonna be mid

Won't preorder it

[crystal fossil]

There was thermal on bf4

It caused no problem

[crystal fossil]

Remember no pre order

Ahh bud

[nimble bridge]

It caused lots of problems before they patched it

Thermal could see through smoke

[plain bluff]

for an arcade shooter like BF, thermal counters are fine. and then you realise that IRL all of that equipment makes you sweat profusely and generate more heat

[mossy marten]

If they add thermals, they better not have it see through smoke
I'm glad that 2042's thermals didn't do that at least

[plain bluff]

just add thermal smokes

[tepid plinth]

In my eyes thermals are just a net positive, it’s just better vision which I’m not against

Seeing through smokes though should simply not exist, flat out

[vague barn]

I agree, I wish thermal wouldn't be implemented, but I suspect it will be regardless. After all they squeezed thermal into even BFV (M3 Carbine).

I'm putting the idea forth in order to reduce the nuisance that it would present for those who do prefer to use concealment to flank an opponent.

I think you might have misunderstood me, I don't want the poncho/ghillie to be a gadget, I want it to be a cosmetic piece of clothing, thereby not necessitating the sacrifice of a gadget slot. It would give less visual concealment due to it's dark-grey appearance, but as a trade, you have a reduction in visibility through thermals.

[tepid plinth]

In that case everyone would just choose that suit if it offers gameplay benefits would they not?

[plain bluff]

that depends on the map and how well the player masks into the environment

BFV had player visibility issues when it launched. devs legit added a halo / glow around the player

and even then people could still blend in naturally

[mossy marten]

BFV looked stunning
But that better suits for singleplayer rather than a PvP game

[tepid plinth]

Although I recall you saying that you were considering customisation pieces as perks though, so I assume this suit is just one of many in your grand plan

[vague barn]

I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't choose that universally. It'd depend on how I was going to play. If I am going balls-to-the-wall aggressive head-on, I probably wouldn't choose it. But if I were to (as I admittedly usually do) roll with a DMR in the outskirts of the battle, yes, I probably would.

[vague barn]

That was for firearms, this is the only "uniform" item I could come up with that would have a reasonable practical application.

Additionally, as initially mentioned, it wouldn't remove your thermal signature, as the DICE LA outfit does, rather reduce it.

[tepid plinth]

In that case I’d probably be less inclined to switch off of it I won’t lie. If it’s the only cosmetic with gameplay benefits, even if I don’t like how it looks, I’d choose it by default

[vague barn]

I guess it depends on the individual but I know that there are many people in BF4 who have the DICE LA camo, yet choose not to use it despite it having the benefit of completely removing your thermal signature, other than your rifle.

[tepid plinth]

By all means they could make it some kind of class passive, just not sure about it being a customisation piece

[plain bluff]

spec ops subclass for recon

[vague barn]

Would you be more in favor of having it as a recce class only passive thing?

Considering SOTACS (the thermal camouflage ghillie suit) is, well, a ghillie suit, I think it'd fit.

I actually mostly mentioned having it for all classes because I anticipated there to be a debate of that making recce class overpowered.

[tepid plinth]

I’d prefer it as a class passive, but not for recon. I don’t want people to have the mindset of ‘I have to stay perfectly still and this passive promotes it’, and just hang far back. However if there was for instance a recon subclass with close range weapons, maybe I could see that working together

They can run around the outskirts and set up spawn beacons and intel devices without necessarily being seen by said thermals then, but they aren’t then also sitting far back cosplaying a bush

[vague barn]

That's a fair point, I hadn't even considered subclasses as a thing I will admit.

[nimble bridge]

I want Blasco's passive to be in a recon subclass

[vague barn]

In the words of Master Yoda, the mascot of the Swedish Air Force Rangers; meditate on this, I shall.

[tepid plinth]

It’s mostly come about cause playing as a close range recon was rather fun in 2042, and I feel it helps to stop people assuming the role is just about sniping 200m back. Actually being up close and making use of prox nades and so forth would be a great boost to the team, with this camo suit thing letting them create spawn points on close flanks rather than distant hilltops

[vague barn]

I can neither confirm or deny that Blasco is my most played class in BF2042.

[heady thorn]

[vague barn]

Yeah, I figure that could be a better setup to be honest. Having a recce subclass or separate "spec ops" class with this particular passive attribute.

Also, if I remember correctly, I was inspired by you, Movement Lover, and your mention of a document outlining discussed points. I now have my own such document.

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

Very good, I urge people to do so. I’m a bit obsessive about it as I have one for every game I play as a means to study game design and improve my own understanding, but the truth is that everyone is fighting for their own vision for the next game, so it’s always worth making one of your own to hold your own thoughts

[half halo]

Another morning without a registration email in my inbox. Add that to the 30cm of snow, what a Sunday 🥲

[spice bramble]

Do not fall into despair, as the heavenly EA haven't blessed me with the glamorous registration email either

[vague barn]

I used to have one for Battlefield in the past but must have deleted it somewhere along the way.

[spice bramble]

Were you previously registered for playtesting?

Any kind?

[half halo]

@spice bramble I'll be praying for you Brother while I plow all that snow!

Yes, I also actually have been invited for some stuff for next week but none of them are BF

[cobalt pulsar]

I dont understand what BF labs even is

[mossy marten]

i wouldn't really call EA "heavenly"

[fleet robin]

playtest

[crystal fossil]

Just like irl, that's even better

[tepid plinth]

Them letting you play early builds in a closed environment to perform focused testing on specific things

[spice bramble]

Then that's the reason, I think. The Labs email people are receiving is what you received when you first registered

Their first playtest just so happens to be the Labs so they got mail for that specifically

[half halo]

Like you mean when I first registered 6 years ago? 😅

[spice bramble]

Yes

[half halo]

Oh that would make sense

[spice bramble]

You were a part of the playtesting already

[tepid plinth]

If you got to the screen saying you signed up for it on the labs site you need to worry, whether you get an email or not you’re in

[half halo]

Well I hope it's that

[spice bramble]

Sarcasm x10

[half halo]

@tepid plinth I hope you are right! 🙂

[mossy marten]

little "/s" would help

[half halo]

And just like that you got disqualified

[spice bramble]

Though I'm glad Ubisoft isn't in charge of Battlefield atm

[spice bramble]

I'll be fine, it's gonna rain leaks

[half halo]

Ubisoft has been fumbling with R6S since years now, I wouldn't want them to touch BF ever

[spice bramble]

I don't want them to touch anything

I hope they go bankrupt

[half halo]

🤣

[spice bramble]

Every single game they put out feels the same, besides R6S

[half halo]

I want Larian to create all video games from now on

[spice bramble]

The devs would agree

Larian?

[half halo]

BF3 developers

BG3

[spice bramble]

Turn based combat in Battlefield would be interesting

[half halo]

Lmao

I mean we already have classes

[tepid plinth]

I don’t cause they own franchises I rather like, but I also don’t trust them with said franchises…
Cruel world

[spice bramble]

That's what you call stuck between a rock and a hard place bud

[tepid plinth]

Stuck replaying the old games to feel some semblance of gratification

[half halo]

@tepid plinth me who was also a fan of Mass Effect and Dragon Age Games and look back at the two last Games they made

"look how they massacred my boys" 😦

[golden vortex]

I would say it would be another game, not bad, just not Battlefield

[spice bramble]

no

[tepid plinth]

Me looking at apex every day of my life and wondering when they’ll actually do anything like titanfall again

[half halo]

So BF2042?

[vague barn]

Man, now I wanna watch The Godfather again.

[half halo]

100% facts

[spice bramble]

I never watched it

I needa be whipped

[vague barn]

What the fuck is this heresy

[spice bramble]

MCU stomps The Godfather

;)

[tepid plinth]

Also me looking at splinter cell and wondering when the next game comes out. At AC and wondering when they’ll make something as expertly crafted as the first games. At Ghost recon, for anything… the list goes on

[spice bramble]

;)

[vague barn]

Never watched MCU.

In fact, what is MCU?

[golden vortex]

2042 is plenty a Battlefield game. As with any Battlefield game since the beginning, some people in the community don't like it, but I would hardly, not call it a Battlefield.

[spice bramble]

Marvel, was trying to be a comedian

[vague barn]

Ah

[spice bramble]

Stage life ain't for me

I'm more into shows than I am into movies nowadays

[vague barn]

No, it ain't. You might fit as the guy operating the spotlight, but certainly not in it.

[half halo]

In my opinion, it's now an "ok" FPS but a very bad Battlefield. But that's just my opinion of course

[tepid plinth]

I’m more inclined to watch 7 hour long game retrospectives than a full length tv show or film

[spice bramble]

I am capable of rewatching game animations and reloads x times over

[golden vortex]

Oh, I don't have a problem with people finding it to be a bad Battlefield game. That's up to them.
But it is still a Battlefield game, unlike what I would consider a turnbased game to be.

[spice bramble]

It's obviously not turn based

[half halo]

Very true

[tepid plinth]

Every day… I need to hold back the desire to watch Hyper’s animation show reel…

[spice bramble]

Actually

I just keep rewatching mw2019 reloads

That shit's soothing

[tepid plinth]

It’s definitely very good stuff, but I do dislike how so many games are just following its style to the point where a lot is starting to feel the same

Games like delta force copy it down to the keyframe almost. Inspects are always tilt - look - tilt slightly more - rotate - look - back

And once you identify the pattern it’s everywhere

[half halo]

I hope the weapon firing sounds in the next BF pack a punch. I like good animations, but I want good sound design as well to follow it

[tepid plinth]

Well I’m not going to disagree about wanting good sounds

[vague barn]

@static void Please, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease tell me you are named after H.M. Murdock and not someone else

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-daredevil-charlie-cox-gif-8038668

[fallow ridge]

What's good chat

[static void]

Maaaybe

[vague barn]

Diced curry spiced chicken with rice.

[vague barn]

I adore you now.

[fallow ridge]

That does sound good

[static void]

♥️

[vague barn]

That's what I'm gonna have once BF2025/2026 comes out I have now decided. Because it's DICEd curry spiced chicken and rice.

[timid needle]

you try logging in to ea

[fallow ridge]

Yeah I don't know where media outlets got the 2025 release date from tbh

Seems like a 2026 title

[tepid plinth]

Definitely

If they actually want labs to contribute at all, even if it is a November release there wouldn’t be enough time to properly influence anything

[fallow ridge]

Yeah there wouldn't be enough time for adjustments. Which I mean, is possible considering the 2042 release

Shitshow

[tepid plinth]

Back when we thought the day one patch could fix everything

[vague barn]

👴

[half halo]

Did we really?

[half halo]

Yeah

[tepid plinth]

unfortunately a lot of people thought the day one patch would do stuff like fix spread, hitreg, performance and even classes and vehicle balance

[half halo]

Lol

[tepid plinth]

then they were woefully dissapointed when it was in fact, just a regular day one patch

[half halo]

LMAO even

[timid needle]

junk folder? or maybe didnt go through?

[half halo]

Already checked junk folder and deleted folder since FEB 1st, nothing

Checked my whitelist and all ea adresses I know of are there, none are in blacklist

[timid needle]

hmm idk

[half halo]

So either it didn't go through for whatever reason

Or my registration is bugged ahah

[timid needle]

try registering again?

[half halo]

The link doesn't work anymore. When I try using it, it brings me directly to the EA playtesting home

May it be battlefield.com/labs or ea2.arcsvir.com

[kind anchor]

how much do we still have to wait for the labs

[golden vortex]

The people lucky enough to get in will start when it's ready to start.

[vague barn]

I can't remember if this is a thing in any previous BF game, but I wish there would be a preset loadout system for in-game. I know Battlelog had it in the web interface.

[kind anchor]

Perfect, in case I am already ready with explosives to go in with a bang!

[inland onyx]

Hello, I would like BF6, I have a new anticheat, a brutal level would be something good for the new one like the entire BF saga, since the anticheat has delta force, greetings from Veteran General BF1942 2000s, so one thing I hope they improve the new one, something better, brutal, that it is something that people like.

We have a lot of hacking in all the BF and people complain as the Streamers also complain if that happens the EA company will have a bad reputation and they will also lose all their support and money so they have to do what they can

[mild girder]

I just broke my leg reading this

[inland onyx]

Ok I understand now I hope that people BF Mod and other community would be making Bots in everything like Discord Frosty ED hacks and BF modding

[mild girder]

Ok this is a AI Bot tf are those messages

[lyric thorn]

They should add head look like rust

[inland onyx]

The General Schmidt

[half halo]

Bro Who tf is this

[mild girder]

Either these Messages are from an AI or his Translator is horrible lol

[minor linden]

Nah, they're having a stroke

[timid needle]

how do you unlock spring grenade, says kills and assists as assault but ive been doing that...

[golden vortex]

Assuming this is a previous Battlefield perhaps #battlefield-legacy-titles ? 🙂

[timid needle]

ob sorry 2042 ill ask there 😝

[golden vortex]

oh right, forgot about the 2042 spring grenade

[indigo escarp]

did everyone get the email saying their signup was complete?

[spice moat]

nope

but going to webiste and trying to apply again says ive already done it

[fickle fulcrum]

Is the battlefield test in the uk 🇬🇧? When it says Europe

[spice moat]

we (UK) are still on Europe

[fickle fulcrum]

Yeah

I just mean in like the eu

[spice moat]

yes we are in the EU (servers), we just arnt apart of the European Union anymore

[gilded rivet]

no we physically moved away

we travelled to a different ocean

[potent trail]

The tugboats were very expensive

Now the UK is off the coast of Sodor

[gilded rivet]

nah we had help from our irish brothers 🫡

[mild girder]

EU and European Union are the same lol

You are part of Europe, not the EU

[spice moat]

EU servers is what im assuming he meant

[potent trail]

I definitely remember having to get out and push

[mild girder]

Would kinda be funny if non EU Member Countries wont be invited

[sharp spindle]

Battlefield Labs testing needs to start ASAP, I want to get a first impression of how the game really feels. 13 days of just thinking about that little teaser with edits is tiring. We need more.

[fickle fulcrum]

I meant with the whole brexit thing and they might say fuck The uk😂

[gilded rivet]

❤️

[fickle fulcrum]

Anyone know when the test is

[gilded rivet]

no one in the uk wanted to leave eu

idk what them results were

[spice moat]

nahh we have one for the BF teams here in uk so would be weird if we didnt get in

[half halo]

Do you have the link? Mine doesn't even says that anymore, just straight to my playtest

[spice moat]

https://ea.arcsivr.com/Portal/home

then there should be playtests available and when you click it says "Congratulations, your registration for Battlefield Labs is complete!"

[half halo]

I don't have any playtests available

[spice moat]

your guess is as good as mine then

[mild girder]

did u already sign up for iot

[half halo]

Yeah, but wanted to double check

I was in the first 3k to register on Day 1

But never Received an email after to confirm

[spice moat]

i never got an email either

[mild girder]

order doesnt matter and its just a mail bro

you are registered

[half halo]

I'm getting paranoid lmao

I need to stop looking on Reddit, twitter and resetera where people flex receiving their emails lmao

[mild girder]

bro its just a playtest

[potent trail]

I hope the people who get in do a good job of it
no point signing up to play 30 mins and leave no feedback

[half halo]

@mild girder What 4 years without a good BF does to a MF

[mild girder]

you act like we cant play older games

[spice moat]

and the rest bfv was bad too

bf1 was good but i hate the random recoil and setting, BFH was cool but not a true BF game and BF4 was the last one 🥲

[half halo]

Yeah, when I did previous playtests (not BF), I always tried to give the most extensive feedback I could, even though the Games weren't my usual type

[potent trail]

tbf though, right now Bf4 is having some server issues
BC2 is technically dead
idk about BFV but BF I is supposed to be good

[potent trail]

🙏

[mild girder]

BF3 is still up, BF4 only recently had their Master Server dying for some reason

[half halo]

Well, I play BF1 and BFV but reached all my endgame goals already and so I'm playing other FPS too, but it's getting boring

[mild girder]

Play BF3/4

[half halo]

BF3 is dead and BF4 is also a game I play, but it's getting old. The movement and graphics is weird after playing newer games

[potent trail]

I hope the Project Rome/Venice Unleashed people get server support going for BF3 and 4 when those official hosting goes

[half halo]

And the meta is also getting annoying

[mild girder]

BF3 aint dead lol

[potent trail]

BC2 has been so much fun lately

[half halo]

@potent trail Yeah, I've been keeping an eye out on VU

[odd carbon]

I got the "Congratulations, your registration for Battlefield Labs is complete!". So when do we get any links or codes to play beta through email?

[mild girder]

when you get invited which is no guaranteed

[potent trail]

They come as fast as the snail mail can carry them

[half halo]

@odd carbon never

[odd carbon]

Lol@half halo 🤣 🤣 🤣

[half halo]

Mail is stuck in the blizzard

[potent trail]

It'll come in the post
102 years late 💀

[mild girder]

Also, the game is NOT a beta

[half halo]

Hopefully the mail pigeon didn't die on his way

[mild girder]

Its an Alpha so more rough than a Beta would be

[half halo]

Pre-alpha even

[mild girder]

nah i dont think its prealpha

[half halo]

The closed alpha for BF2042 was in June/July back then

[odd carbon]

@mild girder Ok, I appreciate the info

[potent trail]

when's the planned release? Novemberish?
By now I'd expect the majority of the work is done right?

[half halo]

It depends on GTA6 release date

I would expect a 2026 release at this point for BF

[spice moat]

id assume the heavy part (being the systems) are done

[half halo]

I pray for the New game to have good maps

God I'm tired of playing shipping container simulator /s

I still remember the days of BF3 Closed alpha, what a Time to be Alive with a banger map

[cold belfry]

I believe sometime around April of next year

[golden vortex]

Both times just guesses.

[minor linden]

Disregarding GTA6, it's likely they're going for October. It's when nearly every other BF has released

[golden vortex]

Like 30% was released during October

There ya go, something to make wild predictions based off 😄
October – 5 games
March – 3 games
June – 3 games
November – 2 games
September – 1 game
July – 1 game
April – 1 game

[half halo]

Shotguning a June 2026 release, just before summer vacations 😈

[golden vortex]

Every release has unique factors that affect the release date. GTA6 certainly a big one. Then there's a bunch of boring stuff like Earning targets, market sentiment and trends etc, and more exciting stuff like development and Q&A status.

[minor linden]

💀

Disregard my statements then lol

[cursive ridge]

I think because they're looking at community testing, we're probably not in beta, most likely we're in alpha, maybe pre-alpha. If that's the case, I could guess that we are looking at a 2026 launch.

[worldly turret]

the timeframe is from april 1st of this year till april 1st of next year but it could be changed due to gta 6

[half halo]

Yeah I should have put /s

[gilded rivet]

it’s a pre echo

[limpid sluice]

Isnt like ... nobody playing those?

[potent trail]

There's 4-5 full servers every night in the EU for BC2

Can't say for US hours or BF3 but US numbers are usually higher than EU in any other game

[heady thorn]

[half halo]

@heady thorn

[heady thorn]

@half halo

[half halo]

What's good?

[bleak scarab]

I really want the option to have FPV drone gadget that can drop explosives onto players, or kamikaze dive into them

[wispy dagger]

For the love of all that is holy please no

[mossy marten]

Plz no

[wispy dagger]

Or at least make it limited range

This guy either only used the ucav or never did lol

[mossy marten]

I have never touched a ucav, suav, or mortar emplacement. I can't bring myself to go that low

[bleak scarab]

Plz yes, but make it balanced where you get it once per life and can't refill it via ammo

[wispy dagger]

Now mortars

That was good

[bleak scarab]

and obviously people can hear the drone as it passes by so you can shoot it ofc

[mossy marten]

[bleak scarab]

still? w/e man

not gonna stop me from suggesting it anyway, and if it's not a good idea, it won't be implemented. Simple enough

[bleak scarab]

that would be nice, and/or someone can have a gadget to counter electronic warfare, and that would either jam the drone or make it hazy and difficult to see

[wispy dagger]

Me personally would rather avoid that

Otherwise you’re just always running counter electronic warfare so you don’t die randomly. Idk I know you can die randomly to whatever, but I’d rather die randomly to artillery/sniper/tank etc than to a drone

Just my personal opinion

[worn pecan]

have they started the tests?

Theres an nda close rule but im pretty sure itll leak as soon as it starts

[wispy dagger]

Nobody knows for sure

[hallow escarp]

yeah guys honestly like november 2027 would be good

nah

october 2028 is a perfect release

[half halo]

Not that it's a good idea, but if there is a counter uav weapon, I must admit enjoying the Stormender in MWIII

[twilit coyote]

who should i be getting an email from? EA?

[delicate frigate]

What's the problem with that? Oh come on, don't be boring, MODERN WAR, TOTAL.

I would love to kill a platoon with a kamikaze drone.

Besides, I think the game should go back to its origins, but with a small "reboot" in the gameplay. Something more similar to Squad or Insurgency Sandstorm, without losing the essence of Battlefield.

[nimble bridge]

They nerfed that in 2042, so I don't think it's coming back

[delicate frigate]

Grenades and mortars could be designed to ACTUALLY work. What's the point of a grenade exploding right next to you and leaving you with 70 health? Isn't there a shockwave? Fragments? The least you could do is get stunned.

[nimble bridge]

Next BF should be more similar to Titanfall imo

Give me momentum based slides

[mossy marten]

Don't scare them

[alpine rock]

If I want a movement based shooter I'll just play quake instead of Titanfall

[delicate frigate]

In the new Battlefield's alpha gameplay, there's a scene where a grenade explodes right in the middle of a squad running. What happens: They lose their balance and keep running...

In reality, those who were right around the grenade would simply be on the ground with their organs turning to soup inside because of the shockwave. I'll be honest: I don't want a hyper mega arcade Battlefield, I want war and I want to feel the weight of being lacerated by a mortar or grenade. I want to feel the weight of simply being stunned by a grenade or drone. I want something dynamic, without ruining the game. Something faithful, but reworked!

Something similar to BF1 + BF4 + HELL LET LOOSE WITH SQUAD

[mossy marten]

So....... A Milsim..... Which lots exist already

[delicate frigate]

Sorry, I didn't understand...

I didn't understand your slang, I'm Portuguese...

[mossy marten]

Wasn't slang
Milsim = military simulator

[delicate frigate]

Oh ...

[mossy marten]

Keep BF as BF, don't make it towards CoD, and don't make it Like Squad/Insurgency

[delicate frigate]

I didn't understand, sorry. I lack neurons.

[delicate frigate]

But the new Battlefield will definitely be something revamped. It will be Battlefield, but it will be different.

[mossy marten]

Battlefield has always been an arcade combined arms shooter. Making it into closer to Cod won't be good, but going into milsim territory will absolutely kill it

[delicate frigate]

As far as I know, it won't even be Battlefield 6. JUST "BATTLEFIELD"

[delicate frigate]

CoD sucks right now.

[delicate frigate]

It's not supposed to be extremely milsim but not too CoD either. It would be something more "balanced", but dynamic. You could run around like in BF4, BF1, BF5 and so on, but you would feel that immersion.

Dude, with all due respect, but I've always wanted a Battlefield set on the UKRU front. 💀

[mossy marten]

That will never happen let's be honest

[delicate frigate]

Obvious

[nimble bridge]

I don't want to play quake because all the 100 people who still plays it mastered every bit of the game

[delicate frigate]

I wanted something more tactical and fun. That's why I'm betting on the new Battlefield. My favorite is the 1, even though it's not tactical but also extremely arcade.

[alpine rock]

I think BF could take some cues from tactical shooters without implementing too many of their mechanics

One feature from Ground Branch I really like is arm stamina

If you hold your weapon in point forward position the sway gradually gets worse

[delicate frigate]

But if it's something too similar to BF4, it's definitely going to get boring. Innovation is not a problem, the problem is HOW YOU'RE GOING TO INNOVATE.

[alpine rock]

And you have to put it either in high ready or low ready to regain stamina

[delicate frigate]

And look, I LOVE BF4 and BF1

[alpine rock]

Imo this would do quite a bit to discourage people from spending the whole match camping the same angle with an LMG

The lean/peek system from BF4 was a good addition to the series and I think they should definitely add that

[pulsar shard]

The new battlefield should get rid of slide and tac sprint mechanic completely

[half halo]

Looking all the différent takes, I'm Starting to think BF Labs was a bad Idea

[covert nest]

We had manual leaning in bf5 but ultimately I would rather not see it make an appearance as you could REALLY abuse it and make your hit box tinier than it should be.

[half halo]

Mandatory /s

[covert nest]

I don't understand how peoples ideas on how the next game should be has anything to do with a pre release build.

[delicate frigate]

IS has a realistic grenade and explosives system. I would say it's too realistic. The grenade literally works, but it works within the standards of physics. I find that interesting. It's not forced, but it's not half-baked either. People tend to think that the grenade explodes in a similar way to artillery, but it doesn't. The explosion is more blunt and comes down to a BOOM, and in the game, if you're about 10 meters away from the explosion, even at that distance, it's lethal. I want something that makes sense within the physical context but also with a touch of Battlefield Arcade, that's what I want, without losing the ESSENCE. Trust me, it's going to be really good.

[alpine rock]

Leaning and peeking are fine

I'd really love to see weapon mounting be a feature

[nimble bridge]

If grenades had 10 meter effective range game would be unplayable

[covert nest]

Mounting I think would be rather good as they can integrate it with bipods better.

[alpine rock]

Like bracing your barrel against a windowsill or brick wall

I want to actually be able to use hard cover to return fire instead of hiding behind it so my health can regen

[delicate frigate]

It's not about killing you, it's about dealing considerable damage. The problem with Battlefield is that it's too Arcade. Even more so on a closed MAP.

[hallow escarp]

battlefield will always be a arcade game

[delicate frigate]

Military gore google search

[alpine rock]

Hot take but bullet penetration would be an interesting mechanic to add

[delicate frigate]

play the game and you will understand.

[alpine rock]

Would be a good way to balance the reduced hitbox exposure from peeking or using a bipod

[covert nest]

We got it in bf5 but it was just a little bit of damage to get people moving.

[delicate frigate]

Battlefield wasn't always about the Arcade title. CoD is more Arcade than Battlefield.

[covert nest]

I personally wouldn't want to deal with bullet penetration as cool as it would be.

[delicate frigate]

Arcade is 2042...

[hallow escarp]

yeah but it will never be like squad or the other milsim stuff

[delicate frigate]

Then it wouldn't be Battlefield.

[alpine rock]

Have it such that certain calibers have certain probabilities of penetrating different types of material

[covert nest]

Battlefield is an arcadic shooter that uses teamplay mechanics more so than other games.

[alpine rock]

For instance if someone's hiding behind a brick wall then a 9mm PDW isn't going to do shit

[hallow escarp]

well obviously

[covert nest]

Do you want a fun game or do you want a cinematic game.

[alpine rock]

Whereas a rifle with an intermediate cartridge e.g. 5.56, 5.45 has a certain probability of penetrating brick or concrete but dealing reduced damage due the velocity fall off

[nimble bridge]

Every redacted/metro/locker match is grenade spam already, no need to encourage that even more, in fact they should just remove grenades lol

[covert nest]

A game often works with its identity which makes it more believable within its own context.

2142 as "unrealistic" as it was was beliavable within its own context because of its consistent identity.

[alpine rock]

Bullet pen definitely veers too far into milsim territory so it's not a particularly relevant feature to add

[delicate frigate]

😭

[alpine rock]

But if done right it could be an interesting addition

[covert nest]

I do agree.

It's why I'm a big fan of diversifying classes.

[hallow escarp]

adding bullet pen wouldnt really make it milsim, its just how guns work

[alpine rock]

Yeah but most FPS games with bullet penetration are tactical shooters and/or Arma 3, not really casual games by any stretch

[hallow escarp]

siege

[covert nest]

I personally just think it'd be annoying to catch random hits through cover.

[alpine rock]

Again it's a cool feature to add but probably not that important

[covert nest]

Siege was made with pen in mind.

[alpine rock]

My only real wishlist item as far as gameplay goes is variable zoom optics

Give LPVO pls

[covert nest]

In 5v5.

[delicate frigate]

But that's the thing, my friend. I didn't say that the game has to be an ETERNAL MIL-SIM grenade SIMULATOR. Will it be Battlefield? Yes, but with a little TOUCH of tactical and realism. It comes down to finding a BALANCE! Even though Battlefield 4 is arcade, it's almost impossible to play a match without dying and assuming "multiple identities". It's that realism balanced with arcade. Something that would come closer to what GTA 6 will be, if you know what I mean.

[alpine rock]

What does BF have in common with GTA

I'm not sure I follow

[delicate frigate]

Bruh

[covert nest]

I spoke earlier about game and identity and it's the one thing I believe people misplace the most.

[delicate frigate]

Mano didn't understand the explanation.

[pulsar shard]

A good example is the animation In BFV when an explosion happens in front of you and you fall down

[hallow escarp]

battlefield 6 will be arcadic like battlefield has always been

[delicate frigate]

YESSSS

[covert nest]

The only times you were knocked down in that game was due to the rockets and lunge mines.

Nothing else.

[pulsar shard]

bFV had good mechanics that applied a little of realism

Expect slide

[hallow escarp]

bfv moment is best

[delicate frigate]

Bro wants to slide with an automatic rifle in his hand

[hallow escarp]

its a game 😭

[pulsar shard]

For me BF1 is the best between realism and arcade

[covert nest]

What's bad about that.

[delicate frigate]

Then go play CoD

[pulsar shard]

Also guys arcade doesn’t always means that the game has to be full unrealistic take for example the cod

[covert nest]

Cod and battlefield play largely the same.

[pulsar shard]

You have twisted the words “arcade”

[covert nest]

Excluding killstreaks and vehicles.

[pulsar shard]

Battlefield it’s is own thing don’t compare with cod guys

[covert nest]

I should really reword that. But really in both games you shoot people as a soldier.

[delicate frigate]

Don't tell me!

[covert nest]

Battlefield to me has played the same since when I first played way back at bf3 which was 11 years ago now.

[pulsar shard]

I always cringed when I saw people sliding in BFV

[hallow escarp]

i dont want to play a game when im walking 1 mph the whole time

js not how battlefield is

[covert nest]

Maybe you can blame COD for the hyper sweatiness which is an issue in itself I agree but people have gotten better at games ultimately.

[alpine rock]

BF4 locker servers are nearly as sweaty as COD lobbies

[delicate frigate]

As I said about 6 minutes ago: something that makes sense in the Battlefield context but also in the standards of Physics. Newtism

[delicate frigate]

But it's not going to be like that. You're not thinking outside the box.

[alpine rock]

Half the server is just rank 140s hopping around like tweakers with the same AEK stubby grip + kobra + G18 loadout

[delicate frigate]

In short: CoD online

[covert nest]

Even if you eliminate sliding people are gonna rely on some kind of new movement habit to avoid gunfire.

Like jumping.

[pulsar shard]

Jumping is ok

But sliding is boring these days,they have slide in every game

[covert nest]

It's the same as sliding for me since it's used to avoid fire.

[delicate frigate]

I think the Battlefield jump is pretty lame. I don't think DICE will make a Fortnite-level jump.

[pulsar shard]

A simple jump is normal but sliding is ruining the immersion

[covert nest]

Sliding in the context of Apex is its best interpretation.

[pulsar shard]

Yes

[delicate frigate]

I think the jump is realistic.

[pulsar shard]

Jumping is realistic when adrenaline hits

If you have seen war cam videos

[covert nest]

I'll be honest, I don't really care that its realistic. It's spammed to hell in battlefield yet I don't see people complaining about it as much.

[pulsar shard]

I just find it cringe and overrated to be a mechanic in battlefield

Other than that jumping is okay if it’s balanced like BF1

[delicate frigate]

I'm not a CoD hater. I loved CoD, but I don't hate it either. I like the campaign mode, but the online mode is simply ridiculous. Only Try Hard plays that. And I'm not one to train to get good at a game. I have a life, a future to build and try to get out of the nightmare sea that is my country. I have traumas with CoD BO6 online and I don't want to go through the same shit in Battlefield.

[covert nest]

Jumping has remained relatively the same throughout frostbite.

Bf3 was different because it could be chained.

[pulsar shard]

I agree I don’t like cod either,I only liked the OG cods

[delicate frigate]

CoD died after the first Warzone.

[pulsar shard]

True

[delicate frigate]

One of the best Battlefields for me was Battlefield 1. I had good experiences with it, and I also really like the story. It was because of it that I played RDR2. I like the aesthetics and the cruelty of war. Although it is not as precisely historical and more stylized, it is one of the best Battlefields for me. It will always be in my heart...

33 German kills as a scout for the Russian Empire. LONG LIVE THE CZAR!

[pulsar shard]

There is a reason why BF1 was the most sold game out of all,the devs put love in that game

[covert nest]

They were allowed to pursue the direction they want essentially.

[pallid coral]

cod has simply become a rinse repeat business and it's working fabulously for them

[pulsar shard]

All I hope is the new battlefield to turn like BF1 in terms of success and immersion

[covert nest]

They need to focus on making a fun game.

[delicate frigate]

Note: I am not a communist.

[covert nest]

They can do what they want as long as the gameplay is fun and not braindead.

[pulsar shard]

Yep and also not cod like

[covert nest]

Battlefield has always been an easy game but goddamn

[pallid coral]

u know a game is shallow asf when the only thing u can think about to get better at a game is to improve ur aim

[covert nest]

Uh oh my game is freezing

[pulsar shard]

That’s how games has always been

If people want movement shooters they can go play titan fall or apex

If they want teamplay and chaos they choose battlefield

[pallid coral]

not really, i mean u can say part of getting good in any game is aim but there's so much besides that in most well developed games

good aim can only take u so far

and also probs wont lead you to the experience the devs wanted u to experience

[pulsar shard]

Don’t forget positioning,map knowledge and teamplay they also play a huge role

[alpine rock]

Battlefield isn't about kill counts and anyone who thinks it is should be playing something else

[covert nest]

SOME complex movement is fine.

[alpine rock]

I've had matches where my K/D was abysmal but I still made it to top 3 on the scoreboard because I revived people and played the damn objectives

[pallid coral]

have you ever slayed a game of squad or arma just from good aim/running and gunning? what about finding a good rock to bipod on? what about finding a quick way out? knowing u have enough bandages in ur loadout so u dont die, maybe see where ur teammates are, etc. (ofc these are not BF games, but just comparing other similar genre games)

[pulsar shard]

Exactly

[covert nest]

I'm not calling for ultrakill movement. I just want something that isn't stupid simple.

I always get to the top of the scoreboard but lol

[delicate frigate]

Teamwork is Hell Let Loose. I got good doses of PTSD from that game 💀

[alpine rock]

My favourite PTFO moment was getting supports to drop ammo crates for me while I solo-held C flag on Zavod for 10 minutes with a Val

Just mowed down anyone who walked in

[pulsar shard]

True I’ve got ptsd from it 💀

[covert nest]

My favourite moment was during frontlines barely holding the team together yet we made a comeback.

Got my highest kill game from it as a result.

When kills become irrelevant and you play for the objective is when the game is at its most fun.

[alpine rock]

If you don't want PTSD don't play Arma 3 escape

[covert nest]

I should find the screenshot

[hallow escarp]

didnt bf1 have slide mechanic

[covert nest]

Yeah and it was bad.

[hallow escarp]

bf5 had the best movement out of any bf game ngl

[pulsar shard]

Yes but they made it to use it only to slide in cover or ledges

In BFV they made it more like cod

[covert nest]

It was genuinely the smoothest.

[delicate frigate]

I like to crush infantry with an A10 in BF4. Is that arcade?

[covert nest]

Yeah?

[delicate frigate]

The problem with 2042 is the lack of creativity and essence. It tried to be inspired by CoD and saw the mess it turned out to be.

[covert nest]

It's pretty easy to fly in battlefield versus something like warthunder which has more indepth flying.

[pallid coral]

i absolutely adored the bfv's attrition system
in my 495hrs in that game, ive noticed SO much teamwork around the attrition and building system that was not present in BF1 or BF4/3

[alpine rock]

The long sought after BF2042 feature: a scoreboard

[pallid coral]

in BF4/3/1 "teamwork" = chuck a health/ammo pack or revive

[covert nest]

2042 was plagued by development issues and incompetent higher ups.

[hallow escarp]

covid ruined it

[delicate frigate]

Hey, but wasn't the A10 made for that? In fact, it's crap for air combat. Only for ground attack, reconnaissance and suppression.

[covert nest]

A10 is anti vehicle.

[alpine rock]

The A-10 sucks for ground attack operations outside of COIN environments where the airspace is not contested

[covert nest]

Like I don't get the argument, You're strafing infantry with an attack plane?

Good for you?

There's nothing complex about it.

[delicate frigate]

?

[alpine rock]

They're slow, they're the opposite of stealthy, and they don't have much in the way of EW or countermeasures

The only thing that plane is notable for is a blue on blue incident during the Iraq War

[hallow escarp]

im happy bf6 will have battlefield 5 movement tho

[covert nest]

I'm just a bit lost. being an arcade game doesn't mean it doesn't have complexity I'm just saying that the aircraft doesn't have as much depth as something else.

Is that the argument?

[pulsar shard]

Question are the devs gonna listen to people this time in Bf labs ?

[hallow escarp]

ye

[pulsar shard]

For example if they don’t like a mechanic will they get rid of it ?

[covert nest]

The devs do listen.

[hallow escarp]

if majority says so

[alpine rock]

I think BF Labs existing is already an admission that they need community input to guide development

[pulsar shard]

Let’s say people want Bf3 movement and they don’t like sliding will they get rid of it ?

[hallow escarp]

probably not

becuase in every fps you need a slide

[pulsar shard]

Because it’s in early stages of alpha

[hallow escarp]

not like a cod slide

[covert nest]

It really depends how much work they put into a system and if removing it works with its vision.

[hallow escarp]

maybe bf1 slide or bfv

[pulsar shard]

Slide has become overrated and overused,I think it doesn’t fit battlefield

[delicate frigate]

Relax, it was a joke

[covert nest]

I talked to Alex a lot during 2042, The previous weapon dev and there's a shittone to consider.

[hallow escarp]

past 3 games have had it though

[covert nest]

That was a joke?

I'm just confused dude

[delicate frigate]

.

[vague barn]

I liked Alex. I miss Alex.

[pulsar shard]

I know but this mechanic is so overused

[vague barn]

Sorry for reply ping, I forgor.

[covert nest]

I remember

[pulsar shard]

BFV mechanics are great but slide ruins it

[covert nest]

He sent me a random dm saying "I HAVE" "PLAN"

He loved his work.

Despite all the shit he got.

[hallow escarp]

atleast no tac sprint

[pulsar shard]

Yea tac sprint has to go

From what I’ve speculate in the teaser tho

[vague barn]

Yeah, he did seem to have a keen interest in it. I helped him with some reference material.

[pulsar shard]

It looks like it’s a combination of BF3 and BFV

It looks like they don’t have tac sprint and maybe not slide too

[hallow escarp]

i hope they add leaning like bfv but make it automatic and not manual

[pulsar shard]

I like that too

[hallow escarp]

if it was manual people would be holding pixel angles like in siege

it wouldnt be fun

[covert nest]

Ehhh contextual lean was really annoying to actuall get working and would rather just not have it.

I get your intentions.

And I don't want to deal with manual lean abuse again either.

[vague barn]

Quick question; how would people feel about having subclasses for the four main classes, similar to combat roles in BFV?

[hallow escarp]

no

[covert nest]

It would be nice to have.

Gimme archetypes again.

[hallow escarp]

ohh

wait yes

combat roles

yes

[covert nest]

Oh nah archetypes were a cut feature from bf5.

[vague barn]

Excuse my ignorance, but what were archetypes?

[covert nest]

They were heavily dilluted into combat roles.

Basically pre release for bf5 classes would have sub classes.

[hallow escarp]

if bfv was modern it would be so good

[covert nest]

For medic there'd be something called combat medic where you can only heal teammates and inject yourself with an adrenaline syringe.

[hallow escarp]

my favorite battlefield ngl

[covert nest]

Or a recon sub class that uses suppressed SMG's and can literally interrogate soldiers.

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Class_Archetypes

[vague barn]

Ohh okay, alright, thanks for clarifying.

[covert nest]

They would also have their own stats but honestly that's one part I'm glad we didn't have to deal with.

A lot of the suppressed SMG's in the campaign portion of bf5 were practically the paratrooper weapons.

Suppressed Suomi Kp/31, Mp40, Any of the base SMGs.

[vague barn]

Yeah

[hallow escarp]

i think battlefield labs playtests are already happening rn

[covert nest]

There's been testing going on right now yeah but not labs testing.

[hallow escarp]

its already been 2 weeks and they said starting out with, like a thousand

[covert nest]

I feel like we would know when they start because some ass would go IM IN IM IN. And get crucified.

[hallow escarp]

or this week

i js wanna see gameplay 😭

[pulsar shard]

I hope this time they don’t release unrealistic skins for the soldiers

[covert nest]

I hope it's fun to kill people.

In GAME

[vague barn]

Tbf given how skeptically inclined this Discord is when it comes to that stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if such a message was just discarded as attention seeking.

[covert nest]

IN GAME

[covert nest]

That's ironically positive id say.

[vague barn]

Oh absolutely, but quite funny in a way.

[hallow escarp]

yall think playtests will start this week?

[vague barn]

Also, holy badonkers batman, I had no idea there were this many archetypes planned for BFV.

[vague barn]

Time will tell.

[covert nest]

Yeah. Check the 5v5 mode. Bunch of cut perks there.

The panzerbusche could have been loaded with tear gas rounds.

Which is hilarious.

[pulsar shard]

For me it looks I can’t sign in anymore for the test,but I have receive any email confirmation yet

[vague barn]

That's funny because that's what it actually had in real life.

[covert nest]

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/5v5_(Gamemode)

[vague barn]

Which is ridiculous and no doubt dreamed up by someone not competent in the use of anti-tank rifles, because cramming a little tear gas into a 7.92 bullet is laughable.

[vague barn]

Oh what could have been 😭

Another quick question; WP smoke with a shorter duration than regular smoke?

Faster to create the cloud of smoke, faster to disappear.

Although tbf pretty much all smoke grenades are instant in BF titles, so nevermind.

[alpine rock]

illumination rounds would be cool

[vague barn]

If they introduce night maps, sure. Otherwise I don't see much need for it.

[alpine rock]

the m224 mortar in BF4 ruined support class because people would just camp the edges of the map trying to score kills with it

restricting the mortar to smoke or illumination rounds would also make recon more useful

[vague barn]

The biggest problem with the M224 mortar in BF4 in my view was that it was remote control.

[alpine rock]

have someone designate targets or areas to actually target

as bad as the mortar was it was nowhere near as bad as the UCAV

[vague barn]

Never unlocked the UCAV so I can't speak for how that one works, I have never been killed by one either.