007 First Light

[inner seal]

not super dramatic though

[cedar crane]

I don't doubt it, just can't see it yet

[inner seal]

cleans up the tiniest amount of noise

[cedar crane]

Is it mostly depending on input res ?

[inner seal]

and makes reflections a bit less pronounced

[cedar crane]

[cedar crane]

Reminds me of how denoiser behaves vs off in The Ascent

Minus the impact on highlights ofc

[spice pecan]

Are they going to fix resolution scaling thing with dlss?

I didnt get the chance to play this weekend 🙁

[inner seal]

I guess technically everything is broken except for DLSS below 1080

[spice pecan]

technically i can play with 49% custom res

since i have 4k tv

but judging by the info, it can run comfortably at dlss quality

with 4090

maybe wait and see what PT does to the game

and if its playable without framegen with dlss performance

[livid hinge]

49% for 4k DlAA as well?

[mighty wind]

Man, outside of M's office it's just an absolute mess

The glass patterned doors/windows

Holy aliasing and artifacts

Made worse by 49%

The game is great but the graphic pipeline seems shambolic

Did DF glaze all over it on their video?

The bond performance is awesome though

Really like him

[livid hinge]

Yes, game is freaking amazing.

[slim swallow]

gonna run like ass with PT

[verbal crater]

Theres infinite facets to the visuals you could see PT improving

Shame it didnt make launch

[quaint oriole]

I dont think it will be too bad as the performance right now is pretty solid

its just cpu limited but theres still gpu power to use

[verbal crater]

The amount of falling back cubemaps for reflections feels very ps4 era

Really looking forward to a indiana jones with pt level of glow up

[zinc fossil]

honestly, I don't mind if games look like this as long as they perform as good as this

indiana jones PT performance was really bad in the jungle

[charred grove]

i have the beta renox hdr file from here from couple of days ago .. i see new pins here now what should i use?

[frozen nebula]

So, either deal with that AO, or deal with smudgy textures?

Got any comparison pic of 4K native and 49% by any chance?

[rustic ether]

the one that's pinned right now

[inner seal]

a lot more breaks than just AO

basically missing an entire lighting pass

[proper robin]

5K2k 49% is not so bad

[frozen nebula]

Ooooff

I'll check comparison on PC but shame.

Uh, what we using to reduce the rendering target then, NVPI?

[inner seal]

nvpi works

[frozen nebula]

RIP DLAA.

[zinc fossil]

49% still looks surprisingly good

but yea dlaa would've been nice

[inner seal]

yeah, I think not having much texture detail in the first place helps here lol

[buoyant gorge]

display command can avoid tearing in most game under vrr without vsync; this one clearly can’t, idk why ...

basically have to cap the frame rate at 60 FPS to completely eliminate screen tearing on a VRR TV with a 120 Hz limit

[remote idol]

or latest RHI beta 🙈

[quaint oriole]

couldnt see any tearing with relimiter vrr cap no vsync. 120hz tv use FG for 115fps cap

[frozen nebula]

lmao

Didn't know that was added, nice.

Already used NVPI, though 😛

Albeit ..

Did NVPI ever added an option to enable debug mode?

So, I can do quick fact-check with the reporting?

Be nice if I don't have to use Gloom for that.

[remote idol]

the streamline debugging mode? i dont think that's in nvpi as far as i know

[frozen nebula]

Debug overlay, yeah

Shame, they need to add that shit.

[remote idol]

oh the dlss hud things like top/bottom left?

[frozen nebula]

Yes

[remote idol]

i know another program that added that in the settings

[frozen nebula]

Nice

Albeit, doesn't seem like NVPI is working for me?

@inner seal you had trouble as well, right? Just had to add the game's exe there?

[remote idol]

so nvidia forgot to add the 007 exe to the profile

RHI will add it automatically when you change a setting

[frozen nebula]

aye, I added that but I didn't remove the quotes after I did copy as path.

[remote idol]

we've all been there 😄

[frozen nebula]

We good now.

[frozen nebula]

[remote idol]

i feel like they just took random levels from the uncharted games ad added bond

[frozen nebula]

heh

I'm about to resume and I think I'm about to get in that SUV that RayRay posted earlier.

I guess I don't need FG anymore.

[quaint oriole]

we found a workaround for the Fg bug, you can use optiscaler and convert dllsfg to xefg. it kills the ghosting

[frozen nebula]

I don't need FG, I enabled it for lolz and never ran into any issue.

But with 49% rendering now, I don't need it at all.

5090 maxes out my screen's capability easily.

Appreciate the heads up, though.

[quaint oriole]

its more about being cpu limited in crowds, but if you have a fat cpu maybe thats no problem

[frozen nebula]

Yeah 9950X3D.

[quaint oriole]

check it its very demanding in big crowds

[frozen nebula]

Appreciate the heads up nonetheless, didn't mean to sound ungrateful 😛

[quaint oriole]

all good

[zinc fossil]

yea someone with a 9800x3d had dips into 100's

not that bad obviously but still annoying if you want to go for a 120 lock

should be fine with VRR anyway

[frozen nebula]

Indeed, it does.

Preset M.

M for Magick.

CC: @wise narwhal

I know you said you'd be buying/playing it in couple of days, so a quick heads up. Read the chat above if needed.

tl;dr game fucks up AO and essentially misses a whole lighting pass if you play at any vertical res at 1080p or higher, so fix is to reduce your render res under that.

Using NVPI (screenshot below), you can set it to 49% if playing on 4K, and select the preset of your choice, and add the game's exe manually as it's missing, and you're good to go.

Game looks solid even after that. Comparison pics here: #1499664181170012181 message

Edit: you may also need to ensure the in-game setting isn’t set to DLAA for it to work properly.

For comparison of how different they look, here's there screenshots comparing them.

[weary tusk]

? Why would you need display command for tearing even? That's the whole purpose of vrr to have no tearing?

[remote idol]

if the fps drops out of the vrr range

[weary tusk]

That's why you cap fps?

[frozen nebula]

Yes

[weary tusk]

Huh I'm a little confused, he is telling he's seeing screen tearing with vrr enabled that's why he have to cap to 60 fps

Why not cap to 100 fps then or 120 to stay under the 120 hz

[frozen nebula]

I'm assuming DC has an option akin to SK where the cap happens before FG.

On native frames.

And he means that one.

[weary tusk]

To be honest I can even cap 120 fps (for 120hz) or 144 fps (for 144hz) and I never seen any screen tearing while streaming to my moonlight client. I never use the -4

[frozen nebula]

But normally speaking, to stay within VRR range, yes.

[inner seal]

also generally speaking pretty much any external limiter/pacer is going to improve smoothness and/or latency

[weary tusk]

Ah okay

[frozen nebula]

If you have a 120Hz panel, you'd cap it at 117.

The formula math will increase the higher refresh rate you go, or you can just choose to fly closer to the sun and only cap it 3-5fps below w/e your panel's refresh rate is.

[weary tusk]

Yeah I know, but Im playing for 6 months now streaming to my tv, and even capping to 120 fps for 120h, doesn't make my games tear. Or 144fps for 144hz.

Dont know why 😂

[frozen nebula]

It won't always tera.

[remote idol]

my 360hz cap is 323hz

[frozen nebula]

You do it to avoid risking that territory, I don't feel any tearing either.

VRR does its job as well.

[weary tusk]

I always use rtss reflex cap for framegen titles.

[frozen nebula]

But locking frames can have smoother pacing, and better frame times, too.

Basically if you lock to a frame that you are constantly hitting, overall experience is generally better.

Than very volatile FPS even within VRR range.

Yeah, RTSS is fine.

I always cap it on driver level myself cause I'm lazy.

[weary tusk]

Yeah my old monitor needed it, but for some reason this oled 810 ( lg c5 panel) doesn't tear at all if I capp at the hz.

Only when I make a custom hz for 100hz then capping at 100hz makes my tv tear.

Otherwise 120 or 144hz I can cap it exactly there I think I'm lucky 😂

[remote idol]

should try ReLimiter with adaptive smoothing

[weary tusk]

Tried relimiter or display commander with reflex cap same effect for me as rtss reflex cap.

[frozen nebula]

Not lucky, that's just expected behaviour. As I said, it's not always going to tear, just depends on the game and the scene is all.

[weary tusk]

The thing is if you cap a game with framegen with something different then reflex cap, pcl latency will double.

Only for dlss 4+ tho framegen

Dlss 3.8 doesn't have that you can even cap with async or front edge sync and it won't double

[weary tusk]

Ah okay,

I did notice it when I made a custom refresh rate of 100 then capping at 100fps would be tearing.

[weary tusk]

Can you use adaptive smoothing with reflex cap together on relimiter?

[inner seal]

well, adaptive smoothing wont do anything if you stay at your target, but I rarely ever stay at my cap, is nice to improve smoothness with varying fps

[weary tusk]

If I'm 100% sure my gpu stays always at a locked 120 fps or 144 fps. I don't even enable vrr I disable it on my moonlight client tbh.

[inner seal]

it just moves your fps cap around dynamically based on previous frames more or less

[wind pumice]

Someone can ping me the updated version of renodx hdr?

[weary tusk]

But with what capping method, if it isn't using reflex pcl latency will double when framegen is enabled?

[inner seal]

its using a predictive limiter integrated with reflex

[drifting bluff]

It's in pins section

[weary tusk]

You recommend that above rtss reflex capping?

[inner seal]

basically takes over reflex pacing

I use it, but I also worked on it

[frozen nebula]

@wicked wasp am I taking crazy pills or there's more detail in the painting with broken grain, than fixed? Perceptual is also akin to fixed.

[weary tusk]

Only problem with virtual display (moonlight streaming is) games are running in composed flip instead of independent flip, but tbh I think it's not a problem for sp games afaik, the only difference is composed flip doesbhave 6ms more latency or something, you won't notice that on sp games.

And maybe the vrr is a little better on independent flip.

[slender arch]

Hello. I've installed the mod but the game now looks a little bit washed in Full RGB range. Should I change it to Limited?

[weary tusk]

Ah okay will give it a try again

[inner seal]

washed?

[drifting bluff]

Make sure you're turning on hdr in game settings every time you load the game. There's a bug where it turns off, every time

[weary tusk]

Tested the latency difference with composed flip vs independent, and I depended it's around 20ms in presentmon and composed flip it's 26ms so not a big deal for sp games to worry 🙂

Feels great streaming these games to my moonlight client from my game pc to my tv in the living room 🙂

[slender arch]

Yes, it's lacking a little bit of contrast, the blacks seem raised quite a bit

[slender arch]

already checked, but thanks, I've noticed it does that

[inner seal]

post a screenshot

vanilla game can be washed in various conditions

fog, their LUT in places

[slender arch]

maybe it's game design

[inner seal]

need to take HDR screenshots

using reshade

[wicked wasp]

it basically just applies an inverse tonemap

so stuff in upper midtones/lower highlights that was more blown out and hue shifted is less so

[slender arch]

oops, sorry, any quick guide? otherwise i'll find it

[wicked wasp]

but brightest highlights are now clipped

raising your peak to like 10k might give a similar effect

[inner seal]

reshade is print screen by default, saves next to exe

[spice pecan]

What about preset L?

[frozen nebula]

Didn’t test.

[remote idol]

turning bloom down looks better too imo

like 30%

[frozen nebula]

If you test and compare, share results and thoughts, pls.

@spice pecan ^

[spice pecan]

I cant play right now 🙁

[charred grove]

anyone else experiencing short stutter in ingame cutscenes ? does that have to do with FG? IK do think FPS jumps a few as well for that second or so ...

[wise narwhal]

Wow thanks for the heads up. That's pretty crazy. How'd you guys figure that out?

[spice pecan]

feeling sick and procrastinating hard

[remote idol]

ultra performance looked better than DLAA so something was afoot

[slender arch]

wait what, AO is completely broken if you're rendering above 1080? i've been playing at dlaa 4k and it's been looking great but now im curious on how it's supposed to look

[charred grove]

yeah 4k dlaa looks great for me tooo

[frozen nebula]

RIP

[kindred mantle]

Most of the time it's not a crazy difference I would say. It's most noticeable on foliage where it's completely broken

[frozen nebula]

I notice a bit of shimmering with the current setup, not sure if L will help there.

Happening on some reflections or well, distant objects.

DLAA didn’t have that issue.

[kindred mantle]

Do you have the latest pinned build?

The reflection fix one

[frozen nebula]

lol, didn’t even see that.

Let me apply.

[kindred mantle]

Big improvement

[frozen nebula]

Yeah

Installed, let's see how it looks now. Thanks.

[frozen nebula]

Cause nerds.

[inner seal]

yeah reflection fix is night and day

[frozen nebula]

Based.

Fixed now, thanks.

Yeah, it really is lol.

I left it at ‘sharp’, as it was default.

[inner seal]

well, all of the characters have a significant outline at 1080 or above too

[frozen nebula]

Albeit, just noticed grain is at 58 now.

Wasn’t a slider available in last build.

[kindred mantle]

It's still a slider lol

[frozen nebula]

I mean there was no intensity slider before

[inner seal]

theres always been one 🤔

[charred grove]

and grain should be at 49%?

[inner seal]

resolution must be below 1080 internal

[kindred mantle]

Didn't realize it was that cooked, spent 99% of the game at 1440p dlss quality so I didn't notice

[frozen nebula]

Could’ve sworn I didn’t have that before from Nexus build and beta builds.

[frozen nebula]

Grain you can do whatever.

49% is for resolution if playing at 4K

Just needs to be below 1080p vertical that’s all.

[inner seal]

it looks very similar to when I was disabling various deferred shading shaders

[charred grove]

49% resolution at 4k where can i change it to that and why should it be at 49%?

[inner seal]

game bugged, rendering broken at 1080 or above vertical

[remote idol]

remember hdr turns off every time you start the game too for folk who dont know

[inner seal]

NVPI custom scale

[frozen nebula]

Need a write up pinned lol

[inner seal]

indeed

[frozen nebula]

@wicked wasp probs just pin this.

[untold tapir]

is AO only broken with frame gen on + vertical res > 1080? i.e. not broken for 4k dlss quality w/o FG?

[inner seal]

rendering always broken unless you use specifically DLSS below 1080

[untold tapir]

ah shite, ta!

[brisk needle]

Does this work thru nvidia app too, or do I gotta do this through nvpi?

[untold tapir]

anyone running into issues with reshade + renodx installed through RHI with optiscaler? i've tried installing optiscaler through RHI & manually (automated install) but in both cases the game doesn't launch properly

[frozen nebula]

Is the black bar toggle working for you when you try to hide then during a cutscene?

Other mod worked for it, this one doesn't. HUD is much better here, though.

[brisk needle]

Or also if I have 1440p, and use DLSS at Performance Preset L do I gotta do this? Not sure what the internal res is at that setting, but it should be below 1080p if I understand correctly?

[frozen nebula]

You could try, I didn't check. You can use your choice of tool and fact-check it after.

[remote idol]

it worked fine for me but other folk have had issues
there is a beta of opti on their discord with 007 fixes

[frozen nebula]

RHI also works, and that might be seamless.

[remote idol]

it will be seamless, more than seamless actually

too seamless

[frozen nebula]

You just think and it works.

Don't even need to click on anything.

[remote idol]

i dont even think

[brisk needle]

Alr ty, def gonna try it

[remote idol]

this one is needed as it's only in beta atm #1474481327691665553 message

[kindred mantle]

Okay yeah it's more cooked than I thought

[brisk needle]

Ahh ok ty

Or wait I'm slow here but what do I have to do inside RHI, the msg u linked is about UE extended

[frozen nebula]

Ooofff

Is this a known issue, @inner seal?

[wise narwhal]

Reflections are pixelated without this fix?

[frozen nebula]

@wise narwhal watch this.

And the video it replies to.

[kindred mantle]

Yeah they look terrible

[frozen nebula]

Before/after.

[kindred mantle]

Your res is definitely above 1080p here

[wise narwhal]

Yea, great video. Night and day

[frozen nebula]

I'll launch again with Glom and se.

[inner seal]

yeah that happens at 1080 or above

[remote idol]

set this in the dlss override bit for the game

[frozen nebula]

Shouldn't be doing that, since I checked earlier. But let me check again, I guess.

I don't have to change anything in-game, right?

It can stay at DLAA and shit in-game menu?

[remote idol]

yeah

[frozen nebula]

Yeah, it's working fine.

So, not sure what gives?

[kindred mantle]

you still see the flicker?

[frozen nebula]

Yes

[inner seal]

maybe try not selecting DLAA

[kindred mantle]

Broken / Not Broken

It's so much worse than I thought lmao

[brisk needle]

Ahh ok ty, I planned to use RHI but I just always downloaded mods manually, now I finally have a reason haha

RHI will automatically detect all RenoDX mods I already have installed right?

[frozen nebula]

aye, that did the trick. Set it to auto.

[remote idol]

it should do man

[frozen nebula]

And override remains the same, so we good.

[inner seal]

[brisk needle]

Sweet thanks!

[frozen nebula]

Auto, quality, performance, ultra perf. All fixed it, DLAA was just broken despite the override working.

[inner seal]

fuckin game

[frozen nebula]

Restarted the game after changing it to Auto as well to rule it out and yeah, all good.

Btw, is this shit broken like this native in the game as well, or with Reno + 49% res shit?

Like will someone playing the game all vanilla will run into that issue all the same?

[kindred mantle]

Yes, it's broken out of the box

[wise narwhal]

so many people are running it broken then

and not realizing

[kindred mantle]

It's broken at all resolutions with FSR

[wise narwhal]

reviewers probably did too

[kindred mantle]

And with TAA

It's only fixed below 1080p with DLSS

[wise narwhal]

did DF catch this in their video

haven't watched it yet

[kindred mantle]

Did they do a PC video yet?

Might not be broken on console

DLSS 1080p / FSR 960p / DLSS 960p

[frozen nebula]

Big upscaling propaganda.

They don't want us to play native.

[inner seal]

nvidia sponsored be like

lol

how do they just not notice that the rendering is broken

[maiden lake]

so if im playing at 1440p do i need to set a custom resolution or just set it it quality and be done with it? (been playing with DLAA)

[serene yoke]

1440p quality is 960p internal

So I assume that would be fine

[kindred mantle]

yeah just do quality

[peak oracle]

just starting the game now at 4K.. do i need to do anything other than the reno hdr fix on nexus?

[inner seal]

set custom scale to 49%

[peak oracle]

as in dlss?

[small umbra]

Guys, an off-topic question:

Why doesn’t LEGO Batman have a RenoDX mod?

[kindred mantle]

yeah. use the latest pinned build too, reflection fix

[cerulean bramble]

https://www.nexusmods.com/legobatmanlegacyofthedarkknight/mods/19?tab=files

[peak oracle]

does 49% not look terrible? lol

[small umbra]

thanks

[tepid mortar]

if you use preset M it will be ok

[frozen nebula]

#1499664181170012181 message

[small umbra]

I finished 007 yesterday. What a great game

[peak oracle]

is the AO lighting difference that big with it off and on?

[frozen nebula]

Check pinned comment

And read the one under it for comparison.

[kindred mantle]

#1499664181170012181 message

[clever tapir]

Thanks. I'll try this later. On my 2nd run now and been using DLAA since

[wicked wasp]

need good comparison images for the SSR Pixelation Fix

[peak oracle]

ok changed to M and 49%. what is the best reno settings for this? or is it auto applied

and whatever dlss its set to ingame doesnt matter is that right?

[wise narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JsFOTVFdw4

i think so

i didn't watch it

it could be consoles only i'll have to watch it later

[frozen nebula]

Idk how you can have images for that.

But here’s before/after.

Gonna have to capture video in-game for cleaner comparison.

[subtle laurel]

the ssr pixelation thingy should be set to sharp or filtered?

[uneven star]

Sorry just to understand this better, you are saying any native resolution breaks AO and setting 49% resolution render fixes that🤔 at any resolution output like 4k or 1440p ?

If yes people with 1440p could utilise dldsr that will give better image quality while fixing AO

[kindred mantle]

has to be below 1080p render res

49% is for 4k specifically

[kindred mantle]

preference, I like sharp better

[uneven star]

People should report that to IO INTERACTIVE, we dont need luma for every new game its insane

[peak oracle]

does it matter if ingame dlss is set to quality etc? if nvpi is at 49 custom

[wise narwhal]

looks like you just have to not set it to dlaa

from what i read above

dlaa is buggy apparently

[frozen nebula]

Mine was set to DLAA and was broken.

quality or auto or others fixed it.

[loud notch]

@inner seal What’s your Reno settings look like? If you don’t mind sharing

[frozen nebula]

It won’t matter what you select in game, so set it to anything but DLAA.

[quaint oriole]

ah man now I fixed it up and the games already over. was pretty short

[frozen nebula]

Jahari out here scamming me, isn’t it. This mfer.

[rough parcel]

I just purchased the game through the Xbox PC App, it was cheapest there. Is installing this mod a no brainer or is it introducing issues currently not in the base game?

[inner seal]

no brainer

[inner seal]

50 bloom, 60 dechroma, 60 lut strength, 25 perceptual film grain

everything else the same

[rough parcel]

rodger that. Hopefully works alright with the XBox App version.

[inner seal]

should work as long as you can install reshade

@wicked wasp here are a couple #1499664181170012181 message #1499664181170012181 message

just isolated captures

pretty easy to get comparisons in the lab

[finite dune]

How do you fix the pixelated SSR?

[inner seal]

reno setting

[finite dune]

I'm not seeing anything in the menu

I have the setting for the shadow fix, but nothing for ssr or am i missing something?

[inner seal]

the newest version has it

[finite dune]

i downloaded it from nexus, is that not the newest verion i take it?

[inner seal]

idk if its on nexus yet

[finite dune]

ah ok

[inner seal]

see pins

[finite dune]

Sorry, I'm not used to discord, where are these pins?

[inner seal]

top right, pin icon

[finite dune]

Found it, thanks.

[peak oracle]

its been a while, how do i tell if nvpi is active ingame? nvidia overlay just says N/A for model

[loud notch]

Thanks and thank you for the shadow and reflection fixes!! You’re the man

[inner seal]

dlss hud/overlay

[clever tapir]

@inner seal the Reflections slider values are different compered to the helper text (mouse-over). Actual values are Sharp and Filtered but test helper has Point Load and Strong Blur

[inner seal]

not a huge deal but thanks for the heads up

[peak oracle]

got it now, i had to create a new game shortcut for it to register

does the game always have blur around the edges of the image?

[frozen nebula]

Radial Blur

Can disable that from graphics.

[peak oracle]

ah ok, thought that was going to be for a weapon wheel or something later haha

thx

[clever tapir]

What a delight. I dont see any image degradation between preset M at 49% scaling vs preset K at DLAA. I am using lilium rcas for both at 0.100 sharpness

[finite dune]

Anyone else getting some minor stutters? I didn't notice them before.

Gonna try a framerate cap and see if that helps.

[clever tapir]

First time in Vietnam i had minor stutters. Now in my 2nd run, all smooth. So probably that was related to shader compilation idk

[frosty mortar]

If setting scaling from nvidia app, what does changing dlss quality, performance etc do in game?

[rigid salmon]

nothing

[opal pebble]

yep, atmos is working great. i didnt really do anything specific/special. in windows sound settings, output format for my GPU's hdmi port is set to dolby atmos for home theater, and the spatial sound setting is set to dolby atmos for home theater also. then in the game's in-game audio settings, mix is set to full range, and importantly the (sorry i cant remember the exact name of the setting, would have to go in-game to check, but it's fairly obvious which one it is) setting for channels/output type/wtv its called needs to be set to system/auto - afaik that's the only setting that allows spatial audio to work

🫰 just bc i didnt comment or leave any feedback earlier - your shadow fixes plus the setting DLSS render scale to 49% tip are 🧑‍🍳 😗 - genuinely transformative in that they basically eliminate the biggest and by far most annoying image quality issues 🙏 ❤️‍🔥

super common windows defender false positive - the !ML at the end indicates it hasnt actually matched it to a known or specific threat, just its machine learning algorithm has decided that it shares whatever random characteristics with some malware (which is the case for a ton of legitimate tools/code). if you want to be sure and give yourself some piece of mind, upload the file to https://virustotal.com and see whether it actually gets flagged as a legitimate threat or not (it wont in this case)

(with the caveat that peeps will have subjective preferences based on what kinds of artefacts bother them most) M is still far and away the best option - the volumetrics and HDR highlight issues with K are too fked to look past

[languid moat]

Trying Lilium RCAS... what a difference! Shame I'm in the Vietnam part already. Wish I had used this from the beginning. Using 49% at 4K on preset M, amazing visuals.

[opal pebble]

its a false positive - ill just leave the virustotal link for everyone else who is worried: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/03373722cfbb35e94b8ae125ee899e34f4b3ad956305ec1a2ac3a1648f220697

i had that issue too - saw on reddit a few other peeps did as well - for games where this happens, ive just been using SK's one click to add NVPI profile functionality (well, two clicks technically i guess xD)

[opal pebble]

dude this soooo much. i wasnt sold on the actor initially/dont know him from anything else but both the writing and vocal performance for Bond in this game are fucking impeccable 👌

[opal pebble]

yeah twas console only

apologies for the reply spam 🙏 🙇‍♂️

cant defeat my self control issues lmao

Virustotal link for the latest version of the addon in case Windows Defender is still spooking anyone with the standard Wacatac!ML false positive: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/83816dfc6922d3dba88d058455c0a3e41836c2fc374d86a803e9ad0f26717457?nocache=1

[unkempt shard]

so the idea to fix AO is to use set an internal res a few % below what preset you want to use

or above it I guess?

[frozen nebula]

No, below 1080 vertical. Read pinned.

[unkempt shard]

ohh ok only from 1080

that's what I wasn't sure of

wait no this says 1080p or higher

[rigid salmon]

At 4k dlss performance, resolution used will be 1920x1080.
You need less than 1080

[unkempt shard]

so If I'm using 4k quality which is 1440p I'm good?

[frozen nebula]

1080p or higher is BAD

So, you want it lower than that.

49% at 4K for you.

[unkempt shard]

ok in general it's bad

damn

gotcha

[wicked wasp]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/278fpl5w0l

they just set whiteclip to peak/diffuse white

which doesn't do much

the game has some additional exposure adjustment after tonemap and then clip to peak before lut

[uneven star]

Am not expert at this but is it possible to add shader compilation indicator through reshade?

Maybe @prime moon tools he could add that, I dont know if its difficult to do🤔 , but it will be awesome if I could tell stutters happens because of compilation or something else

Some emulators have this feature too which is great

[timber tendon]

same, can't find any fix

[timber tendon]

ust now i set my scaling facdtor to 49% in the NVApp, i guess the people recommending optiscaler are on AMD?

[rough parcel]

Has this issue regarding rendering above 1080p been in since launch? Does it effect everyone or just those using the mod?

And is the fix which I applied effectively render a tiny bit below 1080p and then upscaling to 4K?

[last knot]

Regardless of mod since launch

Your internal resolution must be below 1080p

So %49 if you are setting through NVPI and playing at 4K

[rough parcel]

What's upscaling it back to 4K? DLSS?

[last knot]

If you are playing at 4K yeah

[limpid lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSYk0PjLrU

[zinc fossil]

oh damn it's actually happening??

finally

[mighty wind]

You'll still be CPU limited when there are many npcs

[rough parcel]

Do you have to enable HDR every time you start?

Because I have too

[limpid lantern]

Yes it's a bug

[frosty mortar]

Hopefully it’ll line up with 007 path tracing update

[grizzled flicker]

Likely, we'll have PT upgrade in August

[daring timber]

guys does this also contain all the work musa did if you know what i mean

[zinc fossil]

yes

[grave bluff]

Saw the pinned post. I don't buy this. The comparison pics actually depicts the opposite of what you're saying.

[daring timber]

49% makes it worse?

[daring timber]

is something wrong with dlss qualtiy?

whats the discussion about 49% ? someone please explain

[wicked wasp]

you need to set dlss to render at less than 1080p

[wicked wasp]

so on a 4k display you have to do this

[daring timber]

can i do it in nvidia app by setting DLSS super resolution scaling to custom and 49% musa ?

[wicked wasp]

yes

[daring timber]

is it better to do it with NVPI musa or nvidia app just works fine?

[last knot]

Its the same

[daring timber]

ok thanks

[wooden tinsel]

yes, you need to press the number pad's /, not the normal one

[frozen nebula]

Yeah, I know the keybind. I was having some other issue in that scene it seems, it started to work after.

Thank you 🙂

[rough parcel]

Is everyone getting broken transition between cutscenes and levels where you often fade to black and see inside the level or a character standing in the dark and other strange things? Is it mod related?

[last knot]

I get the same thing idk if its mod related or not

[frozen nebula]

No, haven’t had that happen to me.

[rough parcel]

I get it after every cutscene and mission transition. Its really immersion breaking. Especially during the training montage at the start. Also got lots of traversal stutter during car chase early into the game.

[desert badge]

prob a shadertoggler mod

best to bake them on your own

[wooden tinsel]

I had the traversal stutter issue, it means your game files are corrupt. verity the integrity of the game files or redownload the game

also it might be worth rebuilding your shaders by removing all files from here:
%localappdata%\NVIDIA\DXCache

[carmine sundial]

hopefully not the stealth lines toggle 🙁

[clever tapir]

Just 100% the achievements, 40 hrs and 2 playthroughs. Time to touch grass

[rough parcel]

will in need to reinstall reshade and the mod after that?

[wooden tinsel]

if you reinstall the game, then yes

that takes like a minute though so it's fine

[inner seal]

I get same issue with cutscenes or missions, very odd

doesnt really matter at least, idk if its related to capping fps

[remote idol]

I just get some weirdness with pre rendered videos but that's due to the uw fix i have in place, other than that nothing odd to report

[inner seal]

almost every single transition I get a character standing in some scene lol

[wooden tinsel]

do you have the ShaderToggler addon? it might be that

[inner seal]

no

maybe can try a different ultrawide fix i guess

[wooden tinsel]

ah, that's probably it yeah

[remote idol]

You can just use the standard SUWSF file named as winmm.dll

Had no issues using that

https://github.com/PhantomGamers/SUWSF/releases/tag/2.4.0-beta

[cedar crane]

All UW mods but shader toggler based one do the same (hex editing/patching) anyway

[tough granite]

https://fixupx.com/thegameverse/status/2061330875401601413?s=46

GameVerse (@TheGameVerse)

Everything was looking next-gen until I saw this.

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Lol

Lazor at every moment in the game

[cedar crane]

Bruh, that's shameful

[tough granite]

It’s brutal

Not sure how the path tracing update will fix stuff like that lol

[vernal harbor]

I haven't had the issue but my friend is having windows defender block and then delete your HDR mod, any ideas?

[tough granite]

Gotta go to windows defender and allow it

[rigid salmon]

Make a folder, add to exclusion in windows defender, download inside that folder

[wise narwhal]

Huh?

[kindred mantle]

idk what hes talking about

[kindred mantle]

#1499664181170012181 message

[tough granite]

I ran at 2160p DLSS quality 2x frame gen and I didn’t have this issue

Not blurry to me

I guess doing that would help? I dunno

Vegetation only? Or the entire image?

[inner seal]

a decent bit of lighting stuff breaks

haloing around characters

foliage of course gets tiling artifacts and flickers like crazy

and has broken AO

[cedar crane]

Haloing happens regardless tho

Is it worse if at 1080p or above ?

[inner seal]

there is like, a large solid line around characters in some scenes at 1080 or above

[cedar crane]

Yeah at any res for me

[inner seal]

nah its way worse higher

[cedar crane]

Oof 😭

[tough granite]

I did notice this

So you need to run at 1080p? lol

[mighty wind]

Man the FPS plumits in the busy market area in ||Egypt||

[tough granite]

Wait 1080p or HIGHER

[hollow yoke]

just beneath 1080p

49% at 2160p

[mighty wind]

Im getting 70fps in spots on a 9800x3d

[inner seal]

yeah same

sometimes dips into 60s

[ocean stone]

I'm cursed but broke so I'm never going to the 90 tier with these prices. Thankfully FG hard carries the 5080 even at 4k and over 100 fps

[mighty wind]

Phew, thought my CPU was fried as I seemed to be the only one saying it

[vital dune]

Hello, sorry if it's been answered already but i can't find a solution, is this kind of warping fixable ? Happens only when i use HDR + Framegen

[rustic ether]

me neither

[kindred mantle]

You can use optiscaler to replace DLSS FG with XeSS FG to fix that, but otherwise no

[last knot]

Use XeFG

[vital dune]

I just did it but its locked frame gen x2 no ?

[kindred mantle]

yes

[rigid salmon]

Did they port the game from console ?🤔

[vital dune]

too bad 🙁 thanks for the answers

[cerulean bramble]

Is the latency any worse doing that or same?

[kindred mantle]

Same I think

[vital dune]

no i had 10ms at 120fps

[kindred mantle]

Didn't feel bad to me

[clear oasis]

So I was told setting dlss to 49% on the Nvidia is the same as profile inspector, but you can set preset M on the nvidia app as well?

[kindred mantle]

XeFG looks really good too

[signal wigeon]

dayum

[kindred mantle]

I think it's best not to use the fakenvapi.dll from optiscaler, had worse frame pacing when I tried it in other games

[kindred mantle]

yes but the game should use M by default at 49%

[vital dune]

Are you in balanced power mode in windows ? There is know stuterring from performance on x3d, also update your chipset drivers

[wise narwhal]

Who the fuck knows lol

[frank violet]

So, for my understanding, I got a 1440p monitor, I usually play single player games with dldsr to 4k using DLSS quality (or sometimes lower, it depends, I got a 5080)

On this game, 1440p DLSS quality ou 4k DLSS performance (forcing 49% it seems)?

[inner seal]

1440p dlss quality is fine, or 4k at 49%

Just need vertical res below 1080

[frank violet]

Thanks, since 4k 49% might have better image quality, I'll go with that

[peak oracle]

do you think going to 49% is worth the trade off for slightly improved AO?

[inner seal]

not sure what you mean by "slightly improved AO"

[peak oracle]

ive only seen one side by side so far to be honest

[inner seal]

missing lighting pass, severe tile artifacts and flickering on foliage, and severe haloing around characters

[peak oracle]

oh really

jeez

[inner seal]

also its not like the game really looks much better at higher resolution

its a pretty low detail/res game

[peak oracle]

shame. i still havent tried anything to really strain the 5090 lol had it months now. but havent played cyberpunk yet

[inner seal]

and M at 49% is surprisingly good

[peak oracle]

hogwarts dont count

[inner seal]

every game I play strains my GPU, could use double a 5090 lol

[peak oracle]

woot

oh yeah youre running ultrawide 4k right

[inner seal]

and I max things well beyond vanilla usually

granted most games with PT or good RT are gonna run 50-60 fps anyways on my setup

[peak oracle]

it is a bit annoying they didnt launch with PT

il be done with it by then

[inner seal]

or be CD and get 40 fps for shit graphics

[peak oracle]

lol im still holding off on that for now

let them fix it all up

[wise narwhal]

Isn't 50% "balanced" dlss?

[hollow yoke]

nah, 50% is performance

[wise narwhal]

Oh ok

Well then that's fine at 4K, especially on M/L preset

[peak oracle]

wonder if they even know about this issue

[wise narwhal]

I have a 4080 super so i typically am always using performance

[hollow yoke]

balanced is 58% and quality is 67%

[peak oracle]

this is all i need right? dont need to use nvpi

[wise narwhal]

What's the verdict on M/L for this game? L is better but just heavier?

[loud notch]

I’ve submitted a ticket yesterday for this issue. Possibly others did as well before me.

[wise narwhal]

hopefully decent chance they see it then

[peak oracle]

did this literally just drop?

meh nothing much to report it seems

[wise narwhal]

Same drivers still listed on the nvidia website

[peak oracle]

yeah it was a nvidia app update it seems

anybody using Fg with the 49% still?

or is game pretty solid

[inner seal]

DLSSG is fairly broken with HDR

so folks are using opti to swap to XeFG

[peak oracle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SinkingShipEntertainment-sigh-dissapointed-sighing-da6mwoW6Cs0DbER02R

notice it still turns hdr off every launch too lol

[grizzled flicker]

But this issue with FG not working with HDR really baffles me, especially since you've been advertising for months that the game would launch with FG and other Nvidia features (I'll gloss over the delay with the PT)

[vast mulch]

Great work guys

Playing on preset 1 with contrast at 60 and saturation at 75

Great stuff

[inner seal]

but you have to use a beta build of opti, and also turn on HDR before getting into gameplay

and probably delete fakenvapi

[wise narwhal]

Wait what? FG doesnt' work with HDR?

What is the issue?

[grizzled flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1499664181170012181/1510976849172238507/content.png?ex=6a1ec659&is=6a1d74d9&hm=4d215936b1c5030b75ecb5481c94bce0f198ab3cadcfe99b1d6332bbee0d315e

Hoping for a patch can fix it

[wise narwhal]

Wtf

So that happens with FG and HDR?

This game is cursed

[vital dune]

yes this was on x6 frame gen hdr

when moving mouse fast

[wise narwhal]

What about 2x?

[vital dune]

x2 is light but still there

[wise narwhal]

@frozen nebula

Did you run into this?

Or do you not use FG

[remote idol]

2x looks fine to me
getting around 160-180 with 2x
even 3x seemed ok

[inner seal]

lemme find an image

[wise narwhal]

Alright nice, exact opposite of what the person above is saying rofl

love it

[grizzled flicker]

2x is widely enought

[wise narwhal]

widely enough? What does that mean?

[remote idol]

yeah i'm definintely not seeing whats in that picture

[grizzled flicker]

Does anyone actually use x6 in a game like this?

[inner seal]

here is 2x #1499664181170012181 message

[wise narwhal]

yea that's atrocious

okay so not everyone seems to be getting this at 2x?

+hdr

[inner seal]

everyone does but it can kind of be hidden with motion blur i guess

[wise narwhal]

hmm

[vital dune]

i actually use 5 to get 240fps and its marvelous, little input lag tbh

[wise narwhal]

Hopefully I won't need FG at 4K on a 4080 super then, but I probably do

rip

Guess i'll hold off on playing this for a while until patches come out

[inner seal]

game is pretty cpu limited where fps drops

[wise narwhal]

5800x3d over here

[inner seal]

I drop into base 60s sometimes

[wise narwhal]

not too bad

[inner seal]

pretty bad

[wise narwhal]

could be much worse

at least it's over 60

[inner seal]

for these graphics and 49%

[wise narwhal]

Yea, I mean the game is clearly a buggy fucking mess

i'd expect nothing less from AAA

it'll probably be patched, at least the FG thing

also, for those of you guys getting FG issues, are you on latest drivers?

that could be a factor

[inner seal]

no

[wise narwhal]

curious if latest drivers fix that

probably not though

[grizzled flicker]

You need a monitor that supports 6x, and I don't think that's very common. Besides, once you're getting over 100 fps, do you really need it? It's not a competitive FPS game.

[inner seal]

they also need to fix the whole thing where every possible setup has broken rendering except for dlss below 1080 lol

[wise narwhal]

Yea absolutely

[wise narwhal]

Ok, yea, I just didn't know what you mean by that

[grizzled flicker]

Sure I need more this than FG 6x

[remote idol]

if i wiggle the mouse around super quickly it looks like the first picture but if i'm just rotating the camera with the thumbstick like i'm playing normally it looks like the 2nd picture

[wise narwhal]

Kinda shameful for performance like that without RT/PT though

agreed

[wise narwhal]

looks like an acid trip

[inner seal]

there is gpu headroom at least I suppose

[grizzled flicker]

Are you using FG? 2x?

[inner seal]

driving though

[vital dune]

x2 3 and 4

[grizzled flicker]

A patch is needed

[remote idol]

yeah

[inner seal]

also the two major issues fixed via reno are kind of a big deal

[wise narwhal]

Which two? Assume one is film grain messing with peak

[inner seal]

the lines covering everything in vanilla are horrid

and the pixelated flickering reflections

[wise narwhal]

ah duh, yes

but that's not part of the reno mod is it?

thought there's a separate file

[inner seal]

nah I built it into musas addon

[wise narwhal]

oh it's also a reno mod

gotchya

oh ok so you don't need the separate addon anymore?

[inner seal]

there is only one addon

[wise narwhal]

Oh I assumed that was a separate file

it's just the newest version of the mod with the fix

[grizzled flicker]

PT will fix flickering in light sources, shadows, etc.

[inner seal]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[wise narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

[inner seal]

it should fix reflections

will have to see what their overall shadow implementation is like

presumably they are going to blend with raster shadows for some things

[mighty wind]

Are you not seeing the same CPU bottlenecking as me and Lazorr are then?

[inner seal]

quite a few people have mentioned it

[vital dune]

No i'm okay it's more of a gpu bottlneck, 7800x3d with 5070ti

I just learned today about the powerplans giving x3d issues and stutters

[grizzled flicker]

I use "process Lasso" for core monitoring process and other

But we are OT for speaking there

[inner seal]

I think people have mentioned its mostly NPC dense scenes cpu bottlenecking

[mighty wind]

Yeah like the busy marketplace in Egypt

60-70fps on 9800x3d

[grizzled flicker]

How a PS5 can manage it?

[mighty wind]

Im on Balanced. Always have been.

[kindred mantle]

Getting 90-100 fps in the black market, 5080 and 7800x3d. 1440p DLSS quality but with output scaling so 960p->2880p

GPU usage around 95%

[mighty wind]

Maybe it was a very specific area

I'll keep an eye on it

[kindred mantle]

I don't think I've dropped below 80, maybe during action sequences with lots of explosions

[mighty wind]

Max settings outside of resolution?

[kindred mantle]

Yes

[mighty wind]

I'm getting 78-85fps here

[grizzled flicker]

What's your PC specs? GPU and CPU

[kindred mantle]

About 100 fps exactly here

[primal stirrup]

Mine went all over the place in Aleph, as well. From like 59-110 fps. This was at DLAA, though. I... unfortunately did not know about the AO scaling issue until last night 💀

[inner seal]

In the lab, one direction I get like 120-130 base and the other I get around 70

[remote idol]

what's with all the faces, did james forget his trousers?

[primal stirrup]

Yeah this was my experience, as well. The lab is a hitching fest.

[kindred mantle]

Hmm not having that issue. I had crazy stutter in one level only and updating drivers solved that

Doing DLDSR 4k 49% res now and walking around the lab is consistently around 85-95 fps, no stutter and no wild fluctuations

[primal stirrup]

After doing the custom scaling, I was getting basically 100+ at all times. But this was at DLAA 1440p

[vital dune]

crazy, my cpu at this place is used at 25%

[zinc fossil]

the lab is completely stable for me

locked 120fps

[mighty wind]

5090, 9800x3d

Something's fucked for me then?

[inner seal]

we need to make sure we are talking about the same FPS

[mighty wind]

As in, the same stress test/scenario?

[inner seal]

FG, base, which FG

[mighty wind]

Oh, no FG for me

[inner seal]

yeah, then that sounds right

[mighty wind]

Will be funny if the people who say "oh I got 100fps there" are quoting FG numbers

[inner seal]

they must be, your numbers align with what I see roughly as well

[finite dune]

4080S 9800x3d here, only time I've seen it dip into the high 60s was that scene in the traffic jam with the Range Rover. Most of the time I'm hitting 80's+. 4k, DLSS performance, everything on maximum.

No FG

[kindred mantle]

4k 49% res? I used DLDSR to get to 4k with 49% res for a better comparison and I'm getting around 75-85 in the market. But this is with a 5080 and 7800x3d

No FG

[inner seal]

yeah so game is just bottlenecked

[kindred mantle]

Well I'm completely GPU bound and I can get over 100 fps there at 1440p

[mighty wind]

Frame Gen?

Oh sorry

Just saw

[inner seal]

Ill have to look again later, but pretty sure in the lab if you look out into the lab from elevator, base drops fo 60-70

I can get like 100-120 normally though

[astral crow]

I think the lack of pathtracing hurt their PC numbers I am waiting and especially will probalby wait now since transformer RR is coming in august

[frozen nebula]

I did 2x and wasn’t a huge deal breaker, haven’t been using it with 49%

Someone shared some fix for it in here.

[frozen nebula]

This here.

[astral crow]

it will definitely peak again when pathtracing drops why would anyone play without it with a high end PC

probably won't top top concurrent playercount but will get a bump

[empty bear]

That's the current trend on EmulationOnAndroid sub the last few weeks lol

[wise narwhal]

Ugh. I rather just wait for them to patch it at this point

lol

Never used optiscaler

but thx

[loud notch]

Has anyone have issues with cutscenes? I got knocked out on a ship and instead Bond just standing there 3 seconds before the cutscene starts. Ever since all cutscenes are the same :/ 2nd play through never had it before

[primal stirrup]

because they want to play the game on PC, not on console? I'm not gonna wait until Pathtracing to play the game lol.

Especially when pathtracing is probably going to tank the FPS even on 5090's if you don't play on Performance DLSS with FG.

(at 4K)

[thorn wigeon]

So where is the summer game update?

[primal stirrup]

It's not summer.

[buoyant gorge]

even disabled dlss ?

[primal stirrup]

Then you'd be using TAA

Which would be native, so.... you'd then have to resolution scale without the upscaling.

[buoyant gorge]

so that means this issue is unrelated to dlss ?

[primal stirrup]

It means the AO scales with resolution.

[queen quail]

You think maybe this will be the first game to implement the new RR and that's why they waited?

I am hoping for their sake that it is

[frozen nebula]

Yes, happens without DLSS, too.

[mighty wind]

I think the game looks pretty bad overall. It's very messy

[primal stirrup]

There are times when it looks really good and then the fidelity deteriorates in the next scene. It's so weird.

[mighty wind]

49% cause of a bug, no FG cause of a bug, HDR resets each game restart cause of a bug

Crazy aliasing at times

[primal stirrup]

And not a patch in sight.

The HDR one at the very least should have been patched already. It's ridiculous it even shipped with that bug.

[astral crow]

For the 1000th time waiting for games is just superior to playing day one especially singelplayer

if you wait long enough you get it dirt cheap too with updated patches, mature modding it's just far better

[mighty wind]

There's no denying that, but the discord buzz of being here as the guys mod it is pretty fun

[primal stirrup]

If you're waiting for discounts on new games nowadays, you're usually waiting at least a full year.

[mighty wind]

Also, I prefer to only use 49% of my 5090

[astral crow]

yeah, I mean there is a happy medium waiting at least 3-6 months though is good rule of thumb

[wise narwhal]

I'm gonna let this game cook for a bit

[astral crow]

but yeah i realistically have a backlog of high quality games so large that i could wait a year plus for every game

[mighty wind]

It's weird because I thought this one was going to be polished at launch

DF glazing

[inner seal]

Yep, just kind of awkwardly loading into a different scene and then cutscene starts or something

[wise narwhal]

They missed a hell of a lot

[inner seal]

have people not learned that DF has absolutely no idea what they are talking about most of the time

[wise narwhal]

I typically only care what Alex says. I kind of just ignore the other members, especially Oliver

[mighty wind]

It's ok, the Devs gave Alex and his treadmill an interview

[astral crow]

lmao, I feel like alex kinda does but he's the only one

[mighty wind]

So 10/10 no faults

[primal stirrup]

Every hitman game has launched pretty near perfectly, tbf. It was assumed.

I've never had any issue with the Hitman games.

[inner seal]

Alex can be alright, but they make so many meh claims and glaze games that deserve to be criticized

overgeneralization galore too

[astral crow]

hitman 3 like looks better than last light from what i've seen. Hitman 3 looks phenomenal

just has such stiff shooting and animations imo

last light shooting actually looks good

first light*

[mighty wind]

Yeah it's fun, animations are great too

[primal stirrup]

Hitman with First Light gameplay would be amazing.

By gameplay I mean gunplay

[empty bear]

I found it funny how far we had to get in to actually appreciate the gunplay.

[astral crow]

it seems like they prioritized console and I am not sure why considering hitman 3 is biggest and best selling on PC

not launching with PT was a huge mistake imo

[inner seal]

cause its 007

people simply see name and want to play

[astral crow]

I think most PC gamers in the west are mid-high end and launching without PT in 2026 is a built-in reason to skip the game until it's patched with it. It was for me

[inner seal]

I have a lot of trouble imagining fitting PT into this 2016 era engine/game with the current state

[loud notch]

Yup exactly. Finished the game and never seen it before now it’s all the time lol I’ll verify the files and see if that helps

[inner seal]

I have seen it constantly

[astral crow]

I mean it's kinda absurd that dlss upscaling is just flat out not working

that's like easiest piece of the PC puzzle

[inner seal]

if by DLSS you mean no upscaler/TAA

DLSS is the only one that works and only below 1080

[astral crow]

I thought only dlaa works properly

performance mode on 4k works?

[inner seal]

no

only 49% at 4K

has to be below 1080

and only DLSS

[zinc fossil]

game is good and the art is amazing, they need to fix the lighting issues though

[astral crow]

yeah i don't understand how they messed up dlss, never seen that before

[grizzled flicker]

@1440p ? I need to set at 49% ?

[inner seal]

FSR and TAA are broken across the board

[inner seal]

nah, quality is fine

[zinc fossil]

quality preset should be fine

[primal stirrup]

They didn't mess up dlss, they messed up the AO.

[inner seal]

some of their deferred lighting passes stop working more or less

unless its specifically dlss below 1080

[astral crow]

but yeah, why buy this game on PC now? Wait 3 months with patches and PT and you don't "waste" your experience

[serene yoke]

DF is mostly Alex for me

He's also the only one who tries to actually read the research papers

[astral crow]

I personally almost always just play a game once

[inner seal]

I just play games about half

[astral crow]

i mean same haha

I finish probably about 4-5 games per year

[inner seal]

Have like 24 hours in this one, 18 hours fixing shadow/gi artifacts, 4 on reflections, and then 2 playing

[astral crow]

you doing U+ on it?

[inner seal]

nah I contributed to reno

shader level fixes

[serene yoke]

How many seconds does it usually take before you're like,
I can fix this

[inner seal]

the shadow lines were more of a

I cant play this game unless this is fixed

[serene yoke]

Because it does feel like it goes that quickly

Crimson dessert was the biggest surprise that you and the others kept trying

[inner seal]

reflections seemed simple to fix it was just finding what shader and what the problem was

[primal stirrup]

I don't quite understand the obsession with PT. Even on the highest level cards, it completely obliterates performance and produces grainy artifacting without fixes.

Base Cyberpunk PT is unplayable without the Ultra+ fixes.

[inner seal]

I mean, this game looks like a 2016-2020 game

bad shadows, reflections are a joke, lighting is... yeah

I want to play modern looking games with modern tech

doesnt have to be full on PT

[serene yoke]

Here's one of your favourite people then
https://bsky.app/profile/dark1x.bsky.social/post/3mmtxkpqdas2j

John Linneman (@dark1x.bsky.social)

Man, I love the lighting in 007 sometimes. Just gorgeous results.

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[inner seal]

plus, they are the ones that advertised it

[smoky lava]

that's almost all bloom

[inner seal]

and nvidia showcased it

[primal stirrup]

I think it would do well with RTGI and RT Shadows but I don't trust IOI with PT lol

I mean they somehow broke RT reflections and Sun Shadows in World of Assassination at some point

[inner seal]

Its probably going to be RT more or less

and not qualify for PT

[primal stirrup]

You're telling me Nvidia lied to us? 😱

[serene yoke]

Unless Nvidia completely did it themselves

Because they have done that before iirc

[primal stirrup]

(not actually surprised, but sarcasm is hard to convey via text)

[astral crow]

I hope not, I think performance will be super heavy though need to get upscaling working haha

[inner seal]

August 1st they are gonna drop both perfect PT and new RR and it will be the best looking game ever

[astral crow]

haha could be, I personally think Re requiem is probably all around the best looking right now and first light doesn't have the facial animations/character models to match it

first light character models are superisingly good though too

[inner seal]

ye that and pragmata are solid

but RE9 suffers hard from noise/ghosting in places

excited to see it with 4.5 RR

[astral crow]

I think cutscene grace is one of the best video game models i've ever seen

[inner seal]

Industria 2 low key one of best looking games out rn in terms of lighting etc

and nobody knows really

[astral crow]

i've never heard of that one, I think we are finally heading towards true next gen soon

when the ps6 is finally out it will be a huge leap

[inner seal]

Cthulhu TCA with tuned HW lumen also rather nice

[astral crow]

this generation took this long to actually be a leap imo

[inner seal]

starting to see some games leveraging new/current UE tech and it definitely shows

[astral crow]

yeah i think it's mainly the ps5 pro plus the growth of the pc market in the last two years

re4 remake could have totally had PT at launch but there would be no point since consoles couldn't run anything close to it yet

[inner seal]

I was feeling meh about all the PT because RR, but finally announced RR 4.5

[astral crow]

yeah and dlss 5 if you ignore how heavy-handed the preview was that is probably the future of rendering. ps6 rumored to have neural rendering piece as well. Increase fidelity of minor pieces of the scene that usually had to be culled (distant shadows and npcs, asset etc.)

[inner seal]

I love the dlss5 memes

realistically though it will be the future in some way

[astral crow]

yeah i mean you look at the controversial grace, and it did improve some things about her if you ignore her face haha

clothing detail, asset detail in the back, I actually was less of a fan of lighting changes it made

than the asset glowup

[inner seal]

the lighting changes were bad

[modern osprey]

my main response to dlss 5 is, do we really need this

we live in an age of path tracers, physically based renderers... we already know scientifically how lights and stuff works

how good is an AI predicting that over just rendering it with the same hardware

[astral crow]

I think it's more about the cumulative effect of creating high fidelity assets and npcs that are normally made potato to help with perf

would have a large impression of the look of the entire scene with less things like pop-in mesh issues

also shadows too

[modern osprey]

on that though I do wonder how "stable" this model will be. Like is it deterministic, when I move the camera back and forth will I see the same result

[astral crow]

yeah that's what we will see

think of a game like space marine 2 how many enemies are on screen

they are kinda just like a blob until they are right in your face

[modern osprey]

again a solveable issue with raw performance. and it's not like this filter will be cheaper, I highly doubt it

[mighty wind]

How can I take a Reshade HDR screenshot but keep the DC OSD visible?

[astral crow]

I think we are quickly reaching the peak of raw raster but I am not sure

[modern osprey]

I mean RT

I think something like Blender Cycles in real time is approaching

imo putting in AI into this now will hinder progress

[astral crow]

yeah we will see

[modern osprey]

imagine this, you're a game dev and made your game according to DLSS NR 1.0. an update comes out and now your lighting is completely different

the players' drivers automatically update the DLL so you're stuck without control over how your game looks. AMD users use FSR NR instead and play a completely different game in terms of visuals

purely hypothetical

[mighty wind]

Please can I ask you to double check your results here

If you're definitely getting a consistent 100+ FPS I'll start testing a lot of shit to see if something is causing a CPU bottleneck

Vsync on/off etc

[loud notch]

Well that was quick lol

[zinc fossil]

lmao you were actually right damn

[kindred mantle]

Yeah I'm definitely getting 100, I can get higher if I use lower input res

is 85 your max even with more aggressive upscaling?

[mighty wind]

I'm upscaling from 49% with a 5090

GPU almost turning itself off

[kindred mantle]

What's your GPU usage?

[mighty wind]

55%

[kindred mantle]

Damn

Yeah doesn't seem right

[mighty wind]

Several of us are seeing this in crowd heavy spots

When not using FG

FPS tanks as I pan camera too

[kindred mantle]

Which driver?

[mighty wind]

Latest

[kindred mantle]

Same

[mighty wind]

Ingame vsync off?

Any limiter injected?

[kindred mantle]

Ingame off, driver vsync on. No limiter

Max I can do in the market is like 115ish if I use Ultra Performance

[mighty wind]

And it doesn't dip below 100 when walking around through the crowds?

[kindred mantle]

It does, 90-100 is the usual

[mighty wind]

Please, for my sanity, could I kindly ask for a s/s of your in-game graphics settings?

[kindred mantle]

High 80s is rare

[mighty wind]

Oh ok. What CPU again?

[kindred mantle]

7800x3d

[mighty wind]

Thanks man. And the render options above it?

DLSS stuff

[hollow yoke]

I'm in the 90 - 100FPS region at that spot you were sharing screenshots of, 5160x2160 @49% DLSS, max settings on a 5090/9850X3D

[frozen nebula]

Doesn't tank for me, if by that you mean that it's very noticeable/crawls the game.

I didn't have any counter on as I don't like overlays, but I didn't notice for any moment that my game isn't running 'normally' as it does.

I'm past that area now, too. But can check with counter when I get in another crowd heavy one.

[mighty wind]

Interesting, thanks. lazorr and I both hitting 70s/80s with a 9800x3d

[frozen nebula]

From? 120?

[mighty wind]

Ah it's not a jarring drop when panning, just visible via counter

[mighty wind]

Yeah, well 138

[frozen nebula]

Ah, okay. Nevermind then, I thought it was bad enough that it was coming to a crawl or something.

Between VRR and the game being third-person slow walking in those environments, and couch gaming on top of it from far away.

Errrrrrythang was smooth.

[mighty wind]

When I go into heavy crowds the frame pacing noticeable goes shitty. Typical CPU bound feel

But a 138 to 75 drop will do that

[frozen nebula]

Yeah

I have mine locked to 117 since I can't do 144Hz on big TV due to adapter.

[mighty wind]

What the flip is going on then

[kindred mantle]

Doing DLDSR 4k 49% res now to see if there are any issues when actual output res is set to 4k

What's the lowest it dips to in the market for you? 75ish seems to be the minimum with these settings, but no stutter and no frame pacing issues

[mighty wind]

Thanks for this. Think I saw 69

Will check again shortly

I'm gonna try without Reshade, or DC etc

It doesn't stutter to be fair

[slender arch]

I did a little comparison of DLAA Preset K and 49% Preset L at 4K, if anyone wants to compare

[primal stirrup]

Yeah this is my experience, as well. 5070Ti R7 5700X3D.

[random sonnet]

I don't understand why but my game looks terrible with the mod

blacks are crushed and washed out, never had that before with renodx

[fallen whale]

i joined specifically to say this mod is really great i love playing in hdr and the normal implementation was super bad
so thank you musa

[zinc fossil]

where exactly do people have dips in Lab area?

[primal stirrup]

https://youtu.be/UBb1bv3TZs0?si=DdzvbW-mjAXOV_mh&t=665 this section of this video truly illustrates the performance in huge crowds issue

100+ in one part of the hallway, then walk slightly forward and suddenly you're in the 80s

walking into the chess tournament, it drops into the 60s

GPU utilization below 60%

[kindred mantle]

The mod looks similar overall to the native HDR with better highlights. Do you have HDR turned on? It turns off everytime you launch the game

[primal stirrup]

Did you remember to re-enable HDR? because the game disables it every time you exit.

[random sonnet]

Holy shite

I forgot

That's it

[zinc fossil]

how can you not notice though lmao

[smoky lava]

lmao

[random sonnet]

I didn't expect the game to turn it off

[tough terrace]

Does DLDSR work for anyone ?
I can't chose a resolution higher than my native monitor resolution 2560 x 1440 ingame, while in other games i can choose 3840 x 2160.
Anyone know a workaround ?

[zinc fossil]

fair enough but I can usually immediately see clamped highlights

[primal stirrup]

NVPI, but you don't want to have it native 4K, or parts of the lighting pipeline will completely break. Including ambient occlusion. See the pinned comment for what to do.

[kindred mantle]

You have to set your desktop res to the dldsr res. Better to do that anyways

[tough terrace]

right, thanks!

[smoky lava]

preset K ewww

[tough terrace]

bummer 🙁

[kindred mantle]

K / M

we love K

[smoky lava]

yikes

people unironically use K

nvidia default is K for balanced/quality

that's crazy to me

[hot hawk]

why is M better?

[smoky lava]

look at the shadow ghosting

[zinc fossil]

walking around the chess tournament right now and am completely locked at 116fps at all times with dlss 49% internal res

at 4k

[tough terrace]

Where can I see if the lighting pipeline is broken ? I can't see any difference between 4K Quality DLSS and 4K costum @ 49% (as described in the pinned message) regarding lightning, aside it is obviously more blurry @49%

[primal stirrup]

The AO is completely broken

[timber tendon]

Everyone is using M intead of L b/c HDR highlights are supposedly better

[timber tendon]

why is it better to set desktop to that? Antialisaing? I think it's slightly softer

[blissful ledge]

whats up with the whole AO thing? if i play at 1440p with dlss quality, am i affected?

[primal stirrup]

No, you're good.

It's anything above 1080p

[blissful ledge]

right, so even tho the output res is 1440p, it doenst matter cuz the input res for dlss quality at 1440p is only 960p?

[last knot]

Yeah input vertical res needs to be under 1080p

[timber tendon]

correct

[blissful ledge]

i guess thats why DLAA looked weird to me... thats unfortunate

i like DLAA

[inner seal]

I swear to god whoever put all the blue and yellow markers AT EVERY POSSIBLE POINT OF INTEREST deserves to be slapped

[blissful ledge]

u forget the average intelligence of people

[kindred mantle]

I just meant to change your desktop res before you launch a game, you can use borderless and avoid issues with alt tabbing. I didn't mean to always have your desktop set like that

[blissful ledge]

they prolly only added it after 70% of playtesters failed to find the objective/way forward

[inner seal]

I cant even drive a car without what feels like the whole damn road being blue

[smoky lava]

just wait for the arrows and xs

[inner seal]

oh I know

they are everywhere

[smoky lava]

absurd

[inner seal]

use q watch for even more markers

hey were you looking to climb up

how about this bright blue pipe conveniently placed on a ship wreck

[smoky lava]

it's very immersion breaking idk

idm it usually, but it's so obnoxious in this

[timber tendon]

Thanks, i'm alwasy trying to improve my config so that's why

[mighty wind]

@inner seal it's reflex gimping our fps

[primal stirrup]

Don't forget about the YELLOW MOSS

[mighty wind]

I uninstalled DC and fps and same scene went from 78fps low to 114fps low