Death Stranding 2

[stray hamlet]

you should be doing whatever you can to get a rock solid 60fps without frame generation

any cutscene is going to stutter absolutely miserably for you otherwise

[pine trail]

Debating getting a 9070xt for 100 euros more

Worried about missing out on nvidia benefits tho

[warm spade]

Dlss adds so much value its insane

But 9070xt for only 100 euros more than 5060 ti the 5060 ti is hard to justify

[pine trail]

Could get 5070 for 50 euros less than 9070xt also

[fluid glade]

dude cutscenes are constantly crashing for me now

I had like 10 crashes in the past 2 hours

it's especially annoying as I'm basically in the beginning of the end of the game and there's a lot of cutscenes

once the game crashes you gotta watch all again or risk skipping it

never happened to me before latest update

[short charm]

Do you use Lyall fix ?

[fluid glade]

yea

though not for cutscenes

[knotty bobcat]

I've been on a 1060 till 2022, then rx 6650 xt for 3 years and now rtx 4080, and I can tell you with a full confidence that you shouldnt get an AMD card

people like to shit on for NVIDIA for releasing broken drivers, and while its justified, at least they usually fix the issue very soon, within a day. But I had drivers with AMD that were so broken that I had to rollback to previous drivers for a whole ass month, every single PC boot because for some reason I couldnt disable auto-driver download, so that was annoying as hell

[wet rivet]

Mickey Mouse graphics cards

Not worth buying

But Nvidia’s pissing away their lead so maybe in a few years amd cards will be worth buying

[knotty bobcat]

I dont think amd can ever get ahead with their upscaling, would be very surprised if they did

also Path tracing performance is still shite with amd cards, ray tracing is slowly getting there

[knotty bobcat]

also since you're going to use DLDSR then there shouldnt be a question wether to choose 5070 or 9070 xt

[pine trail]

Alright thanks gonna try and wait for a 5070ti drop and hope that the 5070 doesn’t jump back up in the meantime

[knotty bobcat]

yeah good call

for reference I have a 4080 which is basically same raw performance as 5070ti, and I have 80-100FPS on 1440p DLDSR 2.25x - DLSS 4.5 Ultra Perf. on fully max settings

[pine trail]

Probably where I’m gonna end up, praying for a sub 900 price

[shadow wave]

What do you mean not for cutscenes? Do you uninstall the mod for cutscenes

I no longer have cutscenes can't say fot sure

[wet rivet]

oof
vanilla / renodx

[candid moth]

New Build?

[wet rivet]

no just pics

at differnt brightness levels

[unique pulsar]

Wow

[thin nest]

yiiiikes

[crisp notch]

"performance improvements related to the fked way nobody but us seems to use or be impacted by PCIe bandwidth" = press X to doubt. nixxes and pcie limitations that nobody else has even encountered before are more iconic than PB&J. 0% chance they are ever improving that behaviour lmao

how are you finding the latency at q=3?

q=1's too unstable in DS2 but q=2 is aight-ish? havent tried 3

[thick edge]

i honestly can't tell and i doubt you could on gamepad

[warm spade]

https://x.com/sebasti66855537/status/2039787667311759455?s=46

Sebastian Castellanos (@Sebasti66855537)

Wow, what a great patch! Not only have they massively slashed PCIe bandwidth usage — I've seen it drop from a peak of nearly 20 GB/s to just under 7 GB/s on my 4090 with PCIe 4.0 — but they've also fixed the noticeable perf drop issue during character movement. Great job, Nixxes!

X · Apr 2, 2026, 7:30 PM

[crisp notch]

great to hear as a fellow gamepad player - will give it a shot - saw others complain about the sluggishness but no idea if they were on KBM

[crisp notch]

fair enough - happy to cop that and be wrong - thats awesome to see

unexpected but awesome!

[warm spade]

Now if only they would fix their other botched port like Spider-Man 2 lol which is much worse

[crisp notch]

thats the one that was on my mind when i was rather skeptical of that patch note lol

[late aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-jj-jameson-newspaper-spinning-i-want-gif-23305535

2

[knotty bobcat]

wow they finally fixed the sharpness slider I just noticed now

[cold cargo]

[pearl harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-hes-dead-jim-gif-11747425

[rotund salmon]

a little QOL tip for when you're building ||and upgrading|| roads and monorails is not only does the "auto organise cargo" option on the radial menu combine your loose amounts of carried materials like the game tells you, but it works on full size XL containers as well, so you can withdraw x4 full sized containers, combine them into x2 and then carry double the amount in your truck

[fluid glade]

whaaat

I wish I knew that before I built all roads

damn

[rotund salmon]

it sure speeds things along not making so many return trips to the Magellan

[fluid glade]

yea

that would've helped a bunch

[pine trail]

https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/22?tab=images anyone tried this yet?

[warm osprey]

the price of all this is that now I have even bigger issues with LODs than before, and now I occasionally have that dreaded camera rotation stutter that plagued the pre-release pirated build

didn't have this since day1 release patch, but now I have it again after the latest one

and now the map visuals break at furthest zoom

seriously considering rolling back to the previous version, Nixxes fail to fix anything without making it worse in other areas

[pine trail]

anyone notice the sandstorns are bugging out with the new patch?

ive gotten the same bug 3 times since approaching the mechanic side of the map

[waxen horizon]

I gave up on roads, rails and even 4 stars, ridiculous grind, it's even worse than DS1 and I had more than enough of it long before I platinumed it 7 years ago.

Was grinding teeth up to east fort knot but having to work for another 100 hours overthrew my OCD.

Frigging Kojima made an almost the same game that had flaws to begin with, but made it worse. The story is good at least, despite a lame temu ||Cliff|| 1:1.

But I now think that perhaps Phantom Pain being absolute dogshit wasn't Konami fault.

[stray hamlet]

okay

[knotty bobcat]

I'd say it's the exact opposite, rebuilding roads and rails is even easier now with the Magellan

I didnt even bother rebuilding roads in 1 meanwhile its fun to just collect every material from shelters and just load it all up to the magellan

also use spoiler tag next time?

[waxen horizon]

Roads aren't that bad, but liading full truck of manually sorted XLs over and over is still getting old too fast.

My Magellan only holds like 3k metal and Ceramics.

Might be to the wilder thing.

[knotty bobcat]

you can hold infinite in private locker no?

or at least I hold a lot of it in there not sure whats the cap

[waxen horizon]

Yeah, but that is hardly saving trips.

Easier to just go straight from the mine.

[knotty bobcat]

I play TTW and 4 starring takes like 1 standard order and some lost cargos, 5 star is the one that I only got 1 so far because that seems more grindy

[waxen horizon]

Sorry, figured knots are obvious from the start, the other thing not so much but not telling much.

[waxen horizon]

Weird, I feel like 1 standard and 3-4 lost orders aren't even giving 1/3rd of 3* in some cases, and definitely not 4* that takes 4-5 trips at least for most and twice as much for others.

Standard and some lost give like 500 likes and at 4* I'm usually around 5k total.

[knotty bobcat]

no worries, tbf I already got that one spoiled long before even tho it doesnt seem like a big spoiler cuz its obvious yeah

[knotty bobcat]

Do you do those standard orders perfect every time?

[waxen horizon]

Yep.

[knotty bobcat]

Cause I noticed if I dont its almost as if its not even worth doing them

There's also a thing I think where if you hand in lost cargo just as you connect a new shelter to the network that it doesnt grant the likes for the lost cargo apparently, but not sure if thats true

[stray hamlet]

you get the likes you just cant ever get multiple stars in one go

[knotty bobcat]

I saw some post about it but cant find it

Ahh I see

[stray hamlet]

those likes carry over towards the next star making it easier to get

[knotty bobcat]

Makes sense why I had some easy star completions then

[waxen horizon]

Yeah, I leave 2-3 cargo to turn 1 by 1 in that case, but usually lucky to get at least 2* anyway.

What I've started doing is entrusting cargo though - think you get full likes after a while but don't have to do yet another trip for 20% of 4* progress or keep the things around. Will see how it goes after I check some recipients later.

[stray hamlet]

not 100% on how this works but you can sometimes just lose your cargo that way

i accidentally entrusted some stuff for a sub-order once and it got lost and eventually respawned

[waxen horizon]

Yeah, orders probably don't work, lost cargo definitely does.

[cold cargo]

Got the hdr how I like it now I can play the game

[normal sleet]

It's never how you like it, you'll always keep tweaking something, it's our curse

[waxen horizon]

If only they all were like that, this one is quite low even, but its usually ~4k to get even here...

Latest update seemed to help with frame drops also, but then this happens.

[lime lynx]

So far my main issue with the game is the same i had with DS 1. Movement mechanics feels somehow cheap and janky, especially on uneven terrain. I mean main gameplay loop in the game is movement through the large area - why not improve that?

[wet rivet]

I actually love the movement

Just walking around feels good

[shadow wave]

Esp when you get v3 stabilizer. That plus boost skeleton is golden

[spare socket]

Vanilla/Reno(PsychoV)

[wet rivet]

Cursed

Seems like vanilla goes to shit in Australia

I just arrived in Australia

[spare socket]

blue lights turn yellow in interiors, it's wild

[mossy tapir]

do any of the updates help with the insane boiling or noise with dlss preset L/M? Its with ray tracing reflections or rr AO on or off. I dont know if its just something on my end. For some reason it goes away if I put ultra performance........... -_- performance hasnt been an issure for me, playing 4k

[waxen horizon]

I like walking myself, its not really that hard and meditative. Cairn on the other hand at times...

My only issue with the game, other than an overabundance of the same preppers bunkers with Kojima friends holos and warehouses inbetween, like it was in DS1 7 years ago, is the ridiculous grind for 4 stars.

DS1 bosses and enemies were trash, but this time it feels better, or maybe i just had a long break from 30 minutes of LMGing the giant boss in last city of DS1.

[thick edge]

after the new update I am getting some noticeable camera movement stutter during gameplay

frametime graph is perfectly flat

but panning the camera I can see it jerks every x amount of time

i instantly started noticing this after update

never had it before

fucking great

[warm osprey]

same

[warm osprey]

they saved those who had severe issues by spreading them evenly between everyone

now it doesn't matter if you have a powerful enough PC

for example, now the game refuses to use available bus bandwidth, keeping it low at all times

[hushed leaf]

Is RenoDX working in the latest update?

[hushed leaf]

I've felt this on PS5 as well, last year

[thick edge]

well I can say with 100% certainty I did not have it before this patch

only had the cutscene stutters which I fixed with better frame cap

[knotty bobcat]

There's only one specific cutscene which seems jittery for me, but at this point I feel like it's intentional

It's when you fill up your canteen at timefall shelters, the animation is weird

[shadow wave]

Done

[shadow wave]

Looks like im going back to DS1

[slender creek]

I bought a DS2 but haven't started playing it yet.

[fluid glade]

okay then 😄

[normal sleet]

I wish I loved a game this much

[short ether]

Okay, DS2 might be one of my favorite HDR games now

this is peak

[short ether]

was worth it to not eat for a month in order to afford my first OLED

[unique pulsar]

Ramen tastes good anyway.

[short ether]

better - buckwheat

is cheaper

[shadow wave]

Soba?

[short ether]

no, just buckwheat

this thing

[thick edge]

that part was batshit

and using DLSS preset L, how it's able to handle all those particles without smearing anything

it looked insane, never seen anything like it

[stray hamlet]

it's pretty bad actually unless your input res is like at least 1080

it starts trying to denoise everything

[whole marten]

guys do i need to tweak something in reshade reno tab in ds2?

or just leave it as it is

[shadow wave]

Click on purist preset for a preset that is close to vanilla. Default for musa's preference

[whole marten]

thanks

[thick edge]

deepfried is peak

don't listen to the non believers

[short ether]

considering I have an RTX 2070, I just ran Native instead

somehow doesn't have much less performance than DLSS 4.5 performance

and ultra performance isn't much viable on 1440p

[short ether]

that's at preset M — with preset L, sometimes native performs even better

and looks way better of course — 720p to 1440p is still far from perfect

[tepid oracle]

Fuck this game stutters so much during traversal. I’m on a 5070ti and have Dlss on performance. Is there a known cause for this or a fix?

[earnest shoal]

framerate uncapped or nah? I have 0 stutters with 72fps cap

[tepid oracle]

Uncapped. Do you cap through the Nvidia app or is there a toggle in the game

[short ether]

really? It only ever stutters in cutscenes for me, but in this case I think I'm just out of VRAM

no stutters during gameplay whatsoever on R5 5600 + RTX 2070

[short ether]

on that note, I agree

except I lower the saturation, but besides that I do run with what Deep Fried sets

because I dislike how default/Purist makes nights too bright sometimes

scenes that really should've been dark just aren't

[earnest shoal]

I use rivatuner, but u can do it in-game or in the nv app as well dont think it matters that much.

[short ether]

ngl, I see this trend wayyy too often in HDR games, and I never ever like it. Just let me enjoy dark scenes man, this ain't tacfps to maintain perfect visibility at all times with brightness

[short ether]

although that may as well just be an optimization for viewing said HDR content in a brighter room... I guess Gamma 2.2 is used by default, and Gamma 2.4 is supposed for 5-nit viewing environment, while my room while gaming is a whopping 2 nits, if not less

[glass sage]

Turning Gsync off for this game has helped a lot.

[knotty bobcat]

Has to be something else i think, because I use g-sync and have had zero stutters

[icy belfry]

its just average nixxes port moment nothing new

[unkempt jacinth]

[wispy crescent]

Nixxes be like

[urban tapir]

Not a mention by DF. Never beating the nixxes shill allegations

[chrome heart]

[smoky pasture]

5090 4K what's the TLDR please? Max settings, DLSS quality, renodx, done?

Lock to 100ish

[rotund salmon]

you aren't locking to 100FPS with max RT, especially at DLSS Quality

[smoky pasture]

Ok good to know. How is preset M? Performance?

[rotund salmon]

I'm capped at 60FPS max settings including RT with DLSS Performance (preset L) at 5160x2160 and it's still really heavy at times, albeit stable

[smoky pasture]

Wow ok

[rotund salmon]

it's like PT tier performance maxed out, kind of silly for how little visual gains it gives

[smoky pasture]

Might consider dropping the RT settings then

[rotund salmon]

yeah, if you don't want to use frame gen and want a higher framerate, I would

[smoky pasture]

I could use FG but really hadn't expected to have to in this game

[rotund salmon]

it has a stutter in cutscenes if your base framerate is lower than 60FPS, something to keep in mind if you're on a 120Hz display

[smoky pasture]

Sounds like I might have to. Latency won't be an issue, slow game. As long as there aren't too many visual issues

[smoky pasture]

144, thanks

[rotund salmon]

👍

[smoky pasture]

So maybe FG it is. Set and forget

[stray hamlet]

i've noticed the 4.5 presets acting strangely on anything except 50% scale

shimmering on terrain

[rotund salmon]

I saw someone post an example of shimmering with L in DS2 that I've seen for myself in other games, but not here, so I wonder if that's why (I'm using performance)

[stray hamlet]

one easy spot it's really bad in is at heartman's lab right in front of the delivery terminal

[rotund salmon]

I'll have a look when I hop on

[unreal sentinel]

set ao to very higher instead of rt

rt ao in this game is so noisy

with dlss and barely any visual gains

[spare socket]

Vanilla / RenoDX(PsychoV)

Any green sunrise enjoyers

[smoky pasture]

How representative is the very opening area, from a performance perspective?

[smoky pasture]

Hmm I'm seeing that even on DLSS performance. I've switched back to K

[spare socket]

it's present with everything

gets better with higher res scale

completely gone at native

[stray hamlet]

not the issue i was talking about

granted i'm not trying native because i didnt spend new car money on my computer

[spare socket]

pretty sure it's the same thing

it seems to be a bug more than anything

dissapears sometimes when swapping dlss mode or preset

returns at random times regardless

it's only with DLAA I haven't noticed it

[thick edge]

use display commander to lock it to 120 with fg

[smoky pasture]

Hmm FG was butchering the UI

I might just use DRS @ 72fps for this game

DLAA looks a lot better

[thick edge]

force FG preset B

[smoky pasture]

I've not tried that in any game yet, good point

Is it good?

[thick edge]

well if you were bothered by UI stuff it's reduced

[smoky pasture]

Hmm DS2 isn't an officially supported game yet. But I can still force via NVPI? Is that right?

[spare socket]

your base framerate needs to run at either 30, 60 or above 60 fps btw

or your cutscenes will stutter like crazy

I couldn't run DLAA preset L or M above 60

big unluck

maybe with a 5090

[smoky pasture]

DRS might help there

I don't usually use it but seems good here

[spare socket]

how would DRS help

the game needs to render at native (or higher?) for the flicker to be gone

[smoky pasture]

I can hit native most the time, so no flicker

[spare socket]

ah fair

[smoky pasture]

But on those occasions I can't, it'll auto sort it out

[spare socket]

i'm basicaly under 60 at all times, so wouldn't really help in my case

[smoky pasture]

I'm usually hitting 70-80 with dlaa

Gotcha

[spare socket]

preset K?

[smoky pasture]

Yeah

With some RCAS

[spare socket]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

doesn't help

neuters highlights

looks terrible

[smoky pasture]

I did briefly try M but it shimmered bad

[spare socket]

are you running rt?

[smoky pasture]

RCAS looks terrible?

[spare socket]

no preset K looks terrible

RCAS is goated

[smoky pasture]

Yes max settings

[smoky pasture]

I'll try M again

[spare socket]

try L

M has some issues in this game

But reflections will flicker with RT

[smoky pasture]

I think M was bad because I dropped render down

[spare socket]

potentially

I don't think RT is worth it at all in this

RT AO looks terrible

[smoky pasture]

Maybe that's the answer....

[spare socket]

and Reflections costs too much for a minor improvement

[smoky pasture]

No RT, DLAA, preset M

[spare socket]

preset M has issues with motion blur if you use that

[smoky pasture]

Nope

[spare socket]

should be fine then

for reference as well

[smoky pasture]

Generally I find RT is only worth it when pushed really hard (e.g. path tracing)

When games just flirt with RT, its never worth it

[spare socket]

Depends, I think some look fine

I like Control RT

[smoky pasture]

Oooh.

[spare socket]

but even in that you need to run at native or the noise is awful

[smoky pasture]

Ah just realised ps5 pro doesn't use RT

I'm gonna turn it off. Decima engine obviously isn't built around it

[spare socket]

RT reflections look fine, but they don't work well with L/M

[smoky pasture]

But you still prefer L/M? For the handling of HDR and particles?

[spare socket]

yea, not even close

even if there was no performance hit

[smoky pasture]

Ok cool

I became an M concert with Cronos

Looks so good

I've never really tried L tbh

[spare socket]

M can be a bit unstable in motion tho, but should be good with DLAA

[smoky pasture]

Convert

[spare socket]

I think overall I prefer L over M

in most games

[smoky pasture]

If I can run DLAA at a good frame rate with L, I'll ditch RT

[spare socket]

are you on a 5090?

[smoky pasture]

Yes

[spare socket]

yea should be able to keep above 60 at all times

you can frame gen it to 120 and that's that

[smoky pasture]

My target is 72 min really

Should be fine

[spare socket]

that might be more difficult

[smoky pasture]

DRS if needed

[spare socket]

maybe i should try DRS

[smoky pasture]

FG looked bad tyoo me but I've not tried preset B

[smoky pasture]

I would. Game has such different performance loads

[spare socket]

I didn't find the UI ghosting too outrageous tbh

[smoky pasture]

It was right at the start when the credits pop up

Completely ruined the scene

But that's perhaps the only bad bit!

[spare socket]

I didn't run FG at the start so I couldn't tell you

Turned it on like 2 sessions ago

and seems fine

[smoky pasture]

Never before has a game been more about presentation though

[spare socket]

that's so real

the visual experience plays a big part in this game

[smoky pasture]

Last thing you want is artifacts or stutter

[thick edge]

the only thing that takes me out of the game is the dogshit LODs

[smoky pasture]

Just saw some weird behaviour with shadows being completely fucked in a sandstorm. The shadows of a structure would just move across the screen, with the sandstorm

[unreal sentinel]

disabling fg (preset) makes the game much smoother and I can't even tell the diff b/w m perf vs m quality

[smoky pasture]

Sorry I don't understand.

What is "fg (preset)"?

[unreal sentinel]

preset b sorry

I settled down with 4k preset m Perf with no fg

cutscenes now never stutter

I also agree RT implementation is really bad, even with dlaa rtao introduced noise (not as bad as with dlss quality/Perf but still noticeable)

[smoky pasture]

I've turned off RT and FG, and settled with preset M, DLSS quality, 90fps lock

Not sure if I can hold it all game, but so far so good

Feels and looks sexy

[pine trail]

happened to me aswell

im also noticing in a very snowy part of the map at night, the sky has a color banding problem and is extremely blurry

anyone else see it?

i feel this should be a beautiful scene and its all muddy

[spare socket]

dynamic weather

looks fine

minus the banding

[knotty bobcat]

I randomly started getting white squares flashing in cutscenes out of nowhere, anyone know a cause or a fix?

I dont have FG enabled

nvm alt tabbing seemed to have fixed it, but what a weird bug

[pine trail]

is the banding in any way fixable?

[spare socket]

I don't know tbh

[timid mist]

RenoDX / Vanilla

[waxen horizon]

I thought Dollman was bad but then ||he shows his backstory and he's even worse||.

[thick edge]

https://codeberg.org/Lyall/DeathStranding2Fix/issues/1

seems he fixed desync

[shadow wave]

seems to be working well. at least at the intro cutscenes

[lime lynx]

I noticed that most of pixel shimmering is happening in hair area, when playing cutscenes (related to DOF?). I’m running game on max settings, 4k DLSS quality, no dlss overrides. Is there any way to reduce that without using dlaa?

[shadow wave]

try overiding with Preset L

[cold cargo]

This looks good to me. comparison shots in a sec

Vanilla/Reno Default/Refried

[rotund salmon]

500 game/UI brightness is unhinged

[marble terrace]

they might be playing on the surface of the sun

[cold cargo]

Its not natively 500 nits due to my monitors APL Stabilize

[spare socket]

It’ll look even more wrong

How does nighttime look

[quiet kiln]

Right is damn

[dark bear]

which preset do you recommend for horizon forbidden west?

[cold cargo]

Me when I remember you can use Photo mode in cutscenes

[spare socket]

Seems fine brightness wise actually, idk cant tell much from phone

The contrast increase cooks the colors tho

Probably some black crush as well

[spare socket]

Whatever preset you’re happy with performance wise

At DLAA

M and L preferable but they’re heavy at native res

[cold cargo]

Last one

[spare socket]

Actually id avoid K or J

[covert hawk]

Preset L Is way better at handling vegetation and grass than M

So try that

Unfortunately it is more taxing than M but its worth it IMO, huge difference

[winged bronze]

Gameplay wise this game is like, a perfect sequel

But holy shit the story is a complete nothingburguer

Completely unnecessary

First one has such a tidy ending.

[spare socket]

I wouldn’t exactly say the first one was good story or had good writing either tbh

But at least it felt like it had a place

[covert hawk]

Yeah this game felt like Kojima had no idea where to take the story so he just dug up the previous villains grave

I will say I think the gameplay balance is worse too tho

BC after a certain point the pick up truck is just objectively the best mode of transport

Maybe I'm misremembering but I remember the first game being much more specific with balance

Like some scenarios the bike would be better

Some the truck

Some on foot

I exclusively used the truck in ds2

[spare socket]

Ds1 was the same

[covert hawk]

Probably just misremembered then yeah

[spare socket]

If anything ds2 has more limits to the truck early on

The bike is much nimbler in ds2 tho so if u dont need to carry infinite cargo, its better

I think gameplay wise ds2 is better throughout

There are other little things that imo the first game did better

And those add up

[timid mist]

The 2nd half of the game is just || "Sam, this is Tarman. Another settlement needs your help, but I won't drive you there on DHV Magellen because 🖕 you." ||

[covert hawk]

Lmao yep

[covert hawk]

I definitely do like the combat wayyy more

But for some reason I just found this game too easy compared to ds1

Maybe it's just that I knew what to expect this time around

[spare socket]

What difficulty did you play on

Not that it changes that much tbh

[covert hawk]

Whatever the standard one is

[spare socket]

But its not like ds1 was difficult either

[spare socket]

Eh yea

It does feel a tad toned down

[covert hawk]

Ye

[spare socket]

To the wilder feels pretty good tho

Ds1 bts were also just much more threatening

And novel

It was cool that you couldn’t see them

I guess that does change the perception of difficulty as well

[spare socket]

Now that I think about it some more i do remmeber some parts where getting from a to b in a vehicle was like impossible

Either very difficult terrain or bts blocking the way

[covert hawk]

Yeah

That's what I was thinking

Also the truck getting a gun, net launcher, and advanced climbing tires while the bike just gets at most 2 batteries.

[spare socket]

Yea fair

[winged bronze]

To the wilder barely changes anything tbh, and trucks bypass almost all gameplay mechanics. Oh this box cant get heat, or get too cold? Doesn't matter put it in the truck.
Oh this package leaks poison? Put it in the truck too

[shadow wave]

Mostly enemy health. I just completed my first giant bt in ttw, i died couple of times but remember not dying on this during normal run

[winged bronze]

Yeah the bts health is the only big change I think

And their damage

[stable jetty]

Is some amount of banding expected in certain areas or is that addressable

[wet rivet]

i tried upgrading 11 bit to 16 bit earlier but it was crashing

liliums blue noise dithering shader looks good

[stable jetty]

Ahhh ok, yeah mostly sky situations

[wet rivet]

but i didn't really mess with the 16 bit upgrade very much though

[stable jetty]

The sunrise during intro and grey clouds during rain

But also playing on my g4 which I haven’t actually played many games on

So trying to figure out what’s game vs my setup

[spare socket]

Not even remotely true

Sam runs out of stamina MUCH faster and is in general harder to control

And yea enemies do way more damage, the weather effects happen more often, batteries drain faster…

Does this make the game challenging or difficult? No, but it is better than before imo

[stable jetty]

Map in this game is so much better

[waxen horizon]

Aside from stamina to the wilder is still very easy, only remotely hard parts are ||Neil Vana fights||.
Bosses are much better, not like there's that many of them though, and i've played DS1 before Director's Cut, but i only remember two bosses doing nothing but taking a minute or two of bulletspray, and one stupid giant boss taking half an hour of it.

The first one ending was great, haven't finished this one yet, does feel like nothingburger with ||schizo for the sake BB pod mechanic, temu Cliff, and Elle Fanning thrown in, Higgs is awesome though.||

I have nothing good to say about sequel gameplay though, while I like the act of traveling - cameo shelters and grind for roads/stars are ridiculous, practically nothing changed from DS1.

[winged bronze]

The cameos get really grating. Oh look, heres another one of Kojimas friends. The actual characters lose all meaning when the only thing you can think of is " Heres that chinese actor from Marvel movies"

My favorite part were the snowy mountains however, felt all the gameplay elements came together there. But once you link everything theres ramps and generators everywhere so you dont have to think about travel anymore.

[winged bronze]

So whats not remotely true? The stamina? its mostly the same from brutal difficulty. everything else I said is true, using trucks bypasses all the games mechanics regarding how to transport fragile cargo.

[spare socket]

sure man

[winged bronze]

I think they could have achieved a much better balance by limiting vehicle use. Like this place has some chiral interference where vehicles cannot be used, etc, and makes you use floating carriers or just go on foot.

[stable jetty]

Just don’t drive trucks then

lol

[stray hamlet]

||the trick to neil is to just bumrush him with a running punch and then get behind him with the strand||

[waxen horizon]

Yeah I was ||sneaking up from behind half the time, simply shooting everyone down from some good positions the other half. ||

[stray hamlet]

s ranking his vr missions are pretty strict i would only go in with the lvl 3 stabilizer + boost skeleton and never fire a shot

[winged bronze]

Grenade launchers also stunlock him

[lime lynx]

Just got that basic exoskeleton item and those blue lights on it are alwsys blasting ~2500nits in relatively static area. This makes me anxious a bit about oled burn-in lol 😂

[smoky pasture]

How is the game when fully offline?

[devout locust]

you went out of range of the chiral network

[cold cargo]

Anyone else have to force quit this game sometimes

[shadow wave]

Yea been experiencing this since launch. Its interminant issue and hard to replicate but annoying.

[thick edge]

spoiler tag later locations

[short charm]

Vanilla / RenoDX

[lapis scarab]

New patch just landed.

[shadow wave]

any notes?

[lapis scarab]

DEATH STRANDING 2: ON THE BEACH is now Steam Deck verified.
Fixed hitches and stutter that could occur when zooming in with sniper rifles.
Implemented performance optimizations.
Fixed multiple rare crashes and improved overall stability.
Addressed various minor graphics-related bugs.
Various input and user interface related improvements and bug fixes.
Implemented various text and localization related fixes.

[sly raptor]

somebody know if new patch breaks the mod?

[lapis scarab]

Works fine for me

[thorny badger]

I've been getting freezes/crashes every 30 minutes since the last patch, pretty annoying

[civic bison]

I don't know if this has been addressed, but I can't find any concrete info for any game about this...but what should in-game settings be when using RenoDX? Left at default and let RenoDX handle everything? Will in-game settings be overridden or will they "add" to whatever RenoDX is using?

[timid mist]

They are overridden when RenoDX is enabled

[fluid glade]

you can change the UI brightness if you want

the rest should be left alone

whoops sorry I was in the wrong channel

everything should be overriden by renodx

[wet rivet]

Updated:

https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/8

[fluid glade]

sooo whats new?

[smoky pasture]

Sounds like my third marriage

[chrome heart]

[cold cargo]

Old presets will be much different

[wet rivet]

Should mostly look the same

[cold cargo]

Orily?

[short charm]

Old / New. I'm trying to find any difference with PsychoV-17. Do we have any details on changes ? I saw in CP 2077 that highlights are more vibrant, but not here

[waxen horizon]

Finally finished, yeah, the story is wacky by the end... The fact that i was completely exhausted by stars and roads by the middle and just wanted the game to end didnt help either.

||Tomorrow being Lou was obvious almost immediately, but the main cast doesn't even probe it even knowing that Lou is from cuckSam and so is Tomorrow. It takes Higgs spelling it out in the very end for them to realize it.
I don't think anyone cared for APAS 4000.
Die-hardman dance was necessary for the plot.
Everything left to be explained is DEADMAN.||

Despite that ||Higgs is awesome, so is Tomorrow, and i liked Neil even though he isn't even remotely as cool as Cliff while copying him for no reason.||

Heck ||they were even checking her DNA immediately, but didn't see a match. I am no biologist, but i'd wager that would come up easily.||

[mossy tapir]

ok this sounds dumb and I might be wrong but putting the game in ultra-performance with dlss L or M seems to fix alot of grahical problems (in 4k. not ray tracing ref/AO) but.. its ultra perf so shimmering n low res upscale. Optiscaler lets you change dlss presets on the fly and even cap at 30, 60, 120 and adding RCAS. I'm sure there are better ways to doing that though. only real big problem I have with this game is its waaaay to easy on hard mode and I play offline

[waxen horizon]

I had to play with PICO because Reshade together with DLSS breaks the game on Linux 🙁 Didn't really see any issues.

[knotty bobcat]

ngl I also thought its going to be easy online since PS servers are connected to PC, but I was wrong, I didnt see a lot of structures built and I had to build most roads by myself

not sure how it all works or if its diff for everyone

[mossy tapir]

I just optimized my routes and got creative; traversal did not take much time. I'm going to play it online on the hardest difficulty. But there's not alot of built structures people made? the first game is awesome to see most things filled up. I think the further you progress theres more shared structures. I might be wrong though

[knotty bobcat]

I'm like 50% thru the game from my guess, and im on hardest difficulty. I only noticed a lot of structures when I unlocked that apas ench. that increases strand connections hence more structures. so if you would want less of that you can not unlock them and you'll see less structures I tink

also theres multiple of that enchancment im pretty sure, so you can unlock as many to your liking, or none at all, which is nice

[mossy tapir]

ah true I didnt think about how they give you the "option" to have more strand connections. I'm going to do that next time with the apas. I wish I strarted the game on the hardest difficulty.

[knotty bobcat]

if you're not too far in just restart, not sure how the game is on Brutal, but TTW has very fun combat

in ds1 it was basically nonexistent, but in ds2 ttw i had lots of times where i almost got knocked out despite playing it safe

[mossy tapir]

I'm at the end haha. There's so much utility in this game to mess with, I love the combat . I shouldn't have played like this but I just pistol tranquilized everyone from a long distance

[knotty bobcat]

oh yeah same tho its so fun

id use the sniper but its so wacky, the default 0.10 or something deadzone makes it impossible for me to snipe

no idea why even at 0 setting theres a deadzone, 0 should be 0 and 1 should be 0.1 but i guess that would be too logical

[waxen horizon]

Every single enemy has a helmet though, and silenced sniper rifle doesn't exist (yes, it doesn't exist, just like any other 5* reward).

[knotty bobcat]

I unlocked it the other day, getting 5star for ||lone commander|| wasnt really time consuming, it was totally worth it

also, i might be wrong, but the enemies in the lookout towers dont have helmets equipped, so its pretty good against them

[rose valley]

had no issues with the game untill the most recent patch, now i got a crash 2 times in the same location

[wet rivet]

blues may be a little different but it should be largely the same. also it handles out of gamut colors better, so if you turn up saturation it should look cleaner than before

so for our use case psycho isn't gonna change much

[rotund salmon]

I'm not a fan of the new version of the purist preset. It does the same thing that I disliked about default/psycho previously where certain light sources - namely the battery state indicators on Sam's gear and blue lights on player structures - get blown out(?) to nearly full white and lose their colour in specific conditions

old purist (26th March build) / new purist

[wet rivet]

The maxch stuff from before was broken

The issue was on those red orange robots

The red lights on them

Would just be straight red

So in certain cases it could look more broken than vanilla

[rotund salmon]

yeah, I remember seeing that when I did some comparisons as well. I think given they're both trade-offs, I'm happier with the older build still just due to retaining player structure and Sam's gear light colours more consistently and with those being more commonplace than those enemy units

this is the main good stuff I'm thankful for Reno fixing anyway

vanilla BFF / old purist

[small marsh]

I thought default preset was perfectly fine all throughout the game, but then I hit chapter 5 and couldn't help but notice how much more impactful everything looked in the Deep Fried preset. Even though I kinda prefer conservative HDR treatments, I'm leaning towards sticking with that more contrasty look.

[spare socket]

Deep fried enjoyers pov

[crisp notch]

honestly deep fried looks pretty ❤️‍🔥 in this game

tbh i find it very situational - when playing at night in a pitch black room the purist preset looks great, playing during the day with sunlight flying about etc i gotta go deep fried or it ends up looking too flat to me bc of ambient conditions 🤷

[shadow wave]

aka nexus preset

[wet rivet]

good arms

[spare socket]

is it all PsychoV now?

ended up preferring it afterall with highlight sat 51, seemed more consistent than MaxChannel

could try adding a blowout slider to see how it affects lights on exoskeletons and stuff

120 game; 1000 peak
Purist Default / Purist HighSat 50 / Purist Hue Emulation Off

Fire looks rough with default settings

looks fine at 200 nits game

[wet rivet]

i'll set highlight sat to 50 with purist

[spare socket]

Yea, i think that'll make more sense maybe it's not that easy

200 game; 1000 peak
Purist default / HighSat 50

[wet rivet]

50 looks better to me

[spare socket]

fair enough, looks a little too red/pink to me

Vanilla default for reference

SDR looking turbo yellow

[wet rivet]

horrendous

[cold cargo]

Nixxes slop

[wet rivet]

kojipro slop

[spare socket]

from the few moments i looked at SDR i found it awful throughout, not just here

it's so bad

Maybe they graded in HDR with color shift intended

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

Chiralium contamination in the sky makes it turn green

[wet rivet]

They use sdr color grading LUTs

[spare socket]

Yea, just memeing

It’s not the color grading I had issues for the most part

It’s how overexposed the game looks

Like yea im not expecting HDR details in SDR

But I didn’t expect a white sky either

And people actually play like that and post on reddit how HDR is a gimmick

[devout locust]

yeah wait why is he jacked

[short charm]

||It's fun to capture BT bosses, but there is no Steam achievement 😭||

[wet rivet]

Vanilla / RenoDX

[thin abyss]

piss

[warm osprey]

ask me anything

this is the wildest case of good-bad game I've played tbh

big improvements to gameplay over the first one, still worse than DS1

even graphically it's much better in many cases, but piss poor in some, which ruins consistency and overall leaves a more conflicting impression

[shadow wave]

who made big red samurai?

[warm osprey]

maybe it's all because the story is the biggest piece of dogshit

[warm osprey]

||APAS||

[shadow wave]

for who though?

[warm osprey]

||for chaos, for everyone, just to make the fight and struggle go longer||

[shadow wave]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-smh-shake-my-head-no-nope-gif-4996204

[warm osprey]

||they literally said that about weapons in general, this is just yet another weapon used by both sides||

[shadow wave]

||how did fragile know which beach to take lou? and is that world a beach or no?||

[waxen horizon]

||Del Torro 3D printed it. Whatever he wants he gets, up to gundam.||

[shadow wave]

proof?

[waxen horizon]

My friends dad works with Kojima.

[waxen horizon]

||She just ported wherever and left Lou to dead people. Whether it was fate or luck that it was Neil - who cares, Kojima. ||

[warm osprey]

||Fragile said that it was not her who did the jump [navigation], it was Lou herself||

have you guys even been listening to what is said in the cutscenes lmao

[waxen horizon]

I don't remember that bit, but I was so tired of the game that I could have spaced out.

[warm osprey]

fair, the plot is horrendous

Cuck Stranding 2: On The Chair

[waxen horizon]

Good one, and accurate.

[shadow wave]

yea now i remember. been a while around 2 weeks ssince I saw that cutscene

i've been trying to finish ttw difficulty before i say goodbye to this game

[warm osprey]

I'm never installing this again

might replay DS1 though, that was some quality stuff

[molten herald]

@wet rivet I don't know if this is a problem with the game or the mod, but I noticed that when using framegen (FSR or DLSSFG), both SDR eotf emulation options create a sort of small double image effect or blur when moving the camera. With SDR EOTF set to OFF the image is smooth and clear like it should. I'm using the game ver 1.3, Reshade 6.7.3 and latest mod version from april 10. Generic depth and runtime are off.

I'm just leaving this here in case other people have similar issues.

[wet rivet]

I’ll look into it

For now you can use lilium’s black floor fix for the same effect

Just set game and ui brightness equal

And set Lilium to that value

[unborn rover]

I'm assuming the default settings are the way to go for this mod.

Also is the version on github the latest version?

[warm osprey]

use "Deep Fried" and enjoy a good looking game

[shadow wave]

I used purist preset

[warm osprey]

if only it was actually worth it

experiencing the kojima's glorious piss mud filter in all it's purity

[unborn rover]

This seems conflicting because it doesn't seem like either of you enjoyed the game

[warm osprey]

gameplay-wise it's great, but I'm still angry at what he did with the plot

[shadow wave]

I enjoyed the game.

[unborn rover]

[shadow wave]

Sam, tarman here. Im just tired.

[warm osprey]

btw, Dollman is the worst thing ever happening to this franchise

good character, atrocious constant yapping

[unborn rover]

I'm sure it can't be as bad as Atreus in GoW 2018

[shadow wave]

Youve recovered eveything, goods. Lets get them delivered

[warm osprey]

played God of Slop for 15 minutes and dropped it

[unborn rover]

And Mimir later on.

Later on they both start talking non stop.

[shadow wave]

Im currently on my 2nd run TTK and just connected F4. But tbh, really got tired of it after 100%. Im going to play pragmatta

[unborn rover]

TTW*?

[warm osprey]

TTC*

To The Cucked

[unborn rover]

All jokes aside, how's TTW?

I've played DS1 on hard difficulty, it wasn't exactly difficult, but when fighting mini bosses just on my own time, there were times when I almost died.

And there was 1 mission in particular I turned my difficulty down to very easy...

It was the third and last fight with Clifford Unger.

[shadow wave]

More or less the same apart from bosses. Tougher. You could be 1 shotted.

[unborn rover]

I don't know why, but that one was just pain in the ass.

Maybe due to more open map with not much objects to go behind to hide.

[shadow wave]

TTW yea, typo

[unborn rover]

Gotcha.

[shadow wave]

I also tried to replay DS1 again before TTW. Got bored, graphics sucks. Im missing the combat of DS2. The way Sam runs looked awkward

[unborn rover]

The animations are the same though

[shadow wave]

The foliage doesnt seems to have shadows. Looked floaty

[unborn rover]

Didn't exactly pay much detail to that as I was finishing my playthrough on my handheld instead of PC.

Something about having an OLED display seemed to have me more hooked.

And the comfort of playing in bed

Just earlier finished playing around with settings on my handheld to see what performance I could get on DS2

Medium settings, XeSS on quality, 2x XeFG with medium settings and I think more realistic shadows turned off at 25W TDP got me a tad bit over 60 FPS.

Could probably crank it up to high settings if I just played on charger with 35W TDP.

But I fully expect for FPS to drop when I start playing and get off the mountain.

I also tried turning off Reno and looked at sun, never again.

[unborn rover]

played for an hour, and I realised that I will be not having fun until I unlock more things eventually.

can't wait for the tar surfboard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407562689768718416/1494018032434024569/RDT_20260415_1542335070958671660819598.gif

[unborn rover]

I tried the deep fried preset, and it looks good, idk what's up with the negative emojis there

[knotty bobcat]

its the other way around for me, later unlocks speed up main order trips so much that I kinda miss mexico at times, but I also just force myself to use less vehicles

[unborn rover]

I've played the whole DS1 on foot tbh

so I was looking towards making use of other transportation methods in DS2 lmao

[knotty bobcat]

well bike and truck is more fun to drive which is nice, but theres still so many rocks that without roads i'll never keep cargo below 5% (esp fragile) lol thats why I kinda prefer it on foot

and I found the difference between S and A rank to be pretty big in terms of likes so for getting stars its important

not sure if it was like that also in ds1 cuz I didnt really do standard orders there

[unborn rover]

every time I tried to damage cargo with a bike on DS1, I found it impossible to do

was driving an antimatter bomb through rocks

[knotty bobcat]

yeah true now that you mention it, I could also rarely damage cargo on bike in DS1 but I was only playing on hard

but in DS2, i prolly damage it at least 3-4 times per trip, maybe even more haha

[unborn rover]

probably why that might have been the case, also played on hard.

[knotty bobcat]

even a small jump can damage it, unlike in ds1 where I drop down from ludens fan at least 20 meters and nothing happens

[unborn rover]

started a TTW run on DS2, that'll go well.

if I get eaten by a BT, I'm reloading my save.

[knotty bobcat]

not sure how brutal is, but I started on TTW and thats the way to go imo

cuz in DS1 fights were too easy and meaningless, now I feel like I can actually get knocked out and gotta be careful

[small marsh]

I'm only up to chapter 7 (TTW), but I can say that the enemy that fucked me up the most were ||the sword guys||. They jump you outta nowhere and 2-3 shot you like nothing

[knotty bobcat]

and boss fights are also stressful and very fun, whereas in DS1 even at hard, bosses were so bullet spongy and barely dealt any damage that it was not really fun, just annoying

[unborn rover]

please don't spoil anything further

thank you

[unborn rover]

I actually came close to dying a few times on hard in DS1 against non scripted BT fights

but the one that made me shit myself was on the snowy mountain

I decided I want to fuck around and find out

the next thing I know, 2 lion BT's are on my ass.

I was prepared for 1 not 2.

[small marsh]

In story battles they always came in threes, though?

[unborn rover]

almost killed them both but ran away due to being at 300 HP

[unborn rover]

not in DS1

always 1

and there were only 3 times they appeared.

[knotty bobcat]

didnt even know that could happen in ds1, i always only saw 1

though I rarely got into non scripted bt fights cuz I was moving around like a puss

[unborn rover]

I should have known that something was up when the catchers area that was dragging me down was much bigger than usual.

[small marsh]

Must've been a difficulty thing, because I remember they always appeared 2-3 at a time in story battles, and the only times I ever saw just the one was open world stuff.
Maybe it's a difficulty thing? I played on Very Hard

[unborn rover]

doubt it

the scripted fights always spawned 1 BT boss

and as I mentioned, only 3 were scripted

originally when you actually meet Higgs before going to central district

he spawns one

second one was when Higgs appears for the second time when you get out with Mama, he spawns one again, but you can just run away to de-spawn it.

[small marsh]

I knew I wasn't hallucinating!
https://old.reddit.com/r/DeathStranding/comments/17s94fu/lion_bt_boss_fight/k8obsgk/

[unborn rover]

And third time was the massive whale at the end right before you get to lake knot?

oh

you are correct

just checked

Higgs only spawns one, but soon after 2 more come out

maybe it also happens on hard, I didn't stay there for long and bolted the fuck out

but this is the only scripted fight that spawns more than 1

[small marsh]

well yeah, especially on very hard it never made any sense to fight any catcher at all unless you're in a scripted boss fight because they're health sponges to such insane degrees in DS1 it's not even funny

[unborn rover]

I sometimes just wanted to do it for fun on hard

and I fucked around and found out that more than 1 can spawn

but it spawned 2 instantly

killed 1, ran out of blood bags, the other one was low HP, but I was also at 300 HP

so I just decided to get the fuck out of there lmao

though they become less of sponges when you unlock higher level hematics and rocket launchers

going in with just hematics and rifles is stupid

rifles don't do jack shit

[small marsh]

but muh cargo

[unborn rover]

that's why I never fought them with cargo

I was always going after them when I made a delivery

also genuinely fuck carrying live humans through BT zones

[small marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-death-stranding-2-truth-nuke-truth-voidout-voidout-gif-719212097802340252

[unborn rover]

if I ever replay DS1, I'm throwing the girlfriend of the guy who lives in the trashy place into the goddamn tar lake

ironically when I was carrying Mama, I managed to enter timefall areas multiple times and somehow avoided just about every heavy timefall area with BT zones.

[small marsh]

Late game deliveries if you spend way too much time hoarding resources and five starring were like this for me tbh

[unborn rover]

I finished DS1 yesterday story wise and instantly hopped into DS2

I'll leave trying to 100% the game after DS2

[small marsh]

I'll bet the return journey near the end of DS1 took some time for you then

[unborn rover]

speed skeleton and no cargo

was quite fast

[small marsh]

That was the final pizza delivery in a nutshell

[unborn rover]

getting off the mountain was the slowest part.

[small marsh]

DS1's mountains without ziplines... shudders

[unborn rover]

all of the goddamn ziplines in my world and none were connected

[small marsh]

That's just it - you gotta connect them! The only ziplines I got that were actually pre-connected to anything were a few leading up from Mountain Knot towards Heartman

[unborn rover]

some cunt even had one placed in an area populated with BT's that never go away

[small marsh]

The graveyard-looking place north-east from Mountain Knot?

[unborn rover]

yup

[small marsh]

That's PEAK zipline spot! You kidding me? It saves you from having to traverse that god forsaken spot!

[unborn rover]

Its right in the middle of that spot

dunno

[small marsh]

Well, uh, yeah, you're never meant to leave the zipline there lmao

"Why yes I want to facehug that BT that's a few meters from me, why not?"

[unborn rover]

me when bored and no precious cargo but 50 hematic grenades on my back with 4 rifles

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

well that was until the moment I fucked around and found out that I was talking about earlier

I'm sure I'll get my revenge when I return to 5 star everything

rocket launchers my beloved

[unborn rover]

Was hoping that Death Stranding 2 wouldn't take long to introduce BTs again, but I was somewhat let down.

Not like they give any starter weapons to take them down.

But there are mule camps on every corner.

[unborn rover]

The first scripted fight against a massive BT was not fun

Died quite a few times on TTW

Surely it only gets easier from here when I unlock more weapons

[small marsh]

Interesting.
While I did die to that first boss fight a few times, I came out of that experience thinking it was better balanced and more fun than anything in DS1. I thought so mostly because the boss was not as big a health sponge like DS1 bosses were (on Very Hard, which is what I compare TTW to), and also because it was the first time I ever actually NEEDED to use EX grenades to not instantly die after the boss stunlocks you and prepares its instakill animation - if you immediately equip and throw the EX grenade you might've picked up off the ground and throw it at its mouth, you actually get that split second you need to make it out alive. As soon as I recognized how that worked and how it let me survive the mistakes I made that caused me to get stunlocked to begin with... Whew. I had a blast.

[unborn rover]

It definitely was fun, and wasn't as spongey as I expected, it just was quite hard.

[unborn rover]

I think my biggest challenge facing the boss was latency itself tbh

Gotta use XeFG x2 on my handheld to get it to run at acceptable 60 FPS in most places.

And I can feel the latency

Hence why I probably missed quite a few grenades till I got more used to it.

I should also probably adjust my sensitivity settings because turning around and stuff is too slow

I couldn't turn around fast enough if the BT emerged right behind me.

Other than that, the change I appreciate the most is that now changing weapons and such is less stressful

Since the menu stays on rather than you needing to hold it.

Can't count how many times I've panic equipped something I don't need in DS1

||Its time to play the game and watch Sam cope with what happened to Lou||

Chapter 1 is quite long

Around 3 hours?

[small marsh]

Or 10, if you take the time to five star all of Mexico before even finishing the chapter.
...Yeah.

[unborn rover]

Couldn't be bothered

[unborn rover]

The game is finally open

I'm off to Australia

https://tenor.com/view/happy-australia-day-kangaroo-rock-star-guitar-gif-16146262

[swift hill]

New patch!

1.2

[thorny badger]

there's already 1.3 out from april 9th wdym

[thin nest]

mans on internet explorer

bit delayed

[unborn rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathStranding/s/aGQzpaduS9

We got 1.4 instead

[reef copper]

any breaking changes for the mod? anyone checked?

[unborn rover]

No idea

[sly raptor]

so far looking good for me

[small marsh]

I wonder if Lyall's fix for the game also still works.
Not the publicly released 0.0.4 version but rather the experimental 0.0.5, which is the only working fix for the stuttery/juddery cutscenes.

[unborn rover]

As expected since they updated something with FG

Guess no DS2 till it gets updated for me.

[small marsh]

Well, uh, I mean... Can always "downgrade" from DLAA to something that'll help lighten the load like DLSS or even PICO for a while

[unborn rover]

I'm already playing on XeSS with XeFG x2

[fluid glade]

another update and still no fix for the cutscene judder

[unborn rover]

There's no wiggle room.

[fluid glade]

I can't believe this still hasen't been addressed

[small marsh]

B580?!

[unborn rover]

No

AMD

But its a handheld

[small marsh]

Oh...

[unborn rover]

FSR causes shimmering

PICO looked worse than XeSS with FG to me

[small marsh]

Today's DF video on DS2 has shown that PICO itself might be pretty good actually, at least on par with FSR and XeSS if not as good as DLSS
nvm then lmao

[unborn rover]

So XeSS and XeFG

[unborn rover]

I don't think anything will rival DLSS anytime soon.

At least not DLSS 4/4.5

Though, my opinion might be slightly skewed

I didn't test PICO against XeSS enough to really see

[small marsh]

They added extra sharpening settings in today's patch apparently, it might make a difference

[small marsh]

@wet rivet sorry for the ping, just letting you know for when you have some time later on

[unborn rover]

I just fiddled with settings in the first area till I got to FPS that felt good for me and then just went on.

So I tested PICO and XeSS basically on the mountain with nothing in view, not even the slightest amount of foliage lmao.

[small marsh]

better test again now in Australia

[unborn rover]

Will give it a try whenever Musa fixes HDR

[small marsh]

You're playing on handheld docked?

[unborn rover]

Nah

Cba to get a dock

8.8 inches screen is more than enough for me.

[small marsh]

The screen supports HDR? Legion Go 2 or something?

[unborn rover]

Yup

Legion Go 2

Was looking at OLEDs, and the only 2 options were either this or steam deck

[small marsh]

That's a chonker

[unborn rover]

And with aging hardware, I went with Legion Go 2

[unborn rover]

It is.

I use my stomach as a rest support

Can't really hold it up for long

Wrists and hands get uncomfortably sore.

I mean, it does weight quite a bit tbh.

I expected it to be heavy, but not that heavy.

[small marsh]

In the words of that one famous anime:

[unborn rover]

Anyways, got something else to entertain myself with tonight which I also saw a HDR mod for.

https://tenor.com/view/black-myth-wukong-gif-17869901320099386643

Though, it baffles me just how many handhelds there are, and how many of them have OLED screens.

Grand total of 2 if I'm not wrong?

I don't know if Switch 2 is OLED or not, but I don't consider it as a handheld.

[normal sleet]

nope, it's LCD, and a dogshit one at that.

[unborn rover]

Wasn't Switch 1 OLED?

It is

But I've heard that the screen sucks.

[runic field]

Have you tried Lyalls fix?

[small marsh]

Specifically, the experimental 0.0.5 version linked here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/19?tab=posts&comment_id=167913944

[wet rivet]

will try and update tonight to fix fg again

[warm spade]

The sdr eotf?

[wet rivet]

whatever they did in their update

their fg code doesn't really make sense to me

like I'd think that they were supposed to have 2 outputs

one with game scene + UI combined and another without UI

I can try changing it to that and see what happens

[small marsh]

With and without UI... Maybe groundwork for supporting FG preset B?

[wet rivet]

it's the same as how nixxes handled fg before in spiderman remastered

[unborn rover]

I was actually confused as to how this game works weirdly enough with FG

The game runs smoothly at 60 FPS in some places for me

But whenever a tip pops up

Half of the game is weirdly stuttery around the tip message

The rest of game is still at 60 FPS

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[fluid glade]

I think you're just seeing UI artifacts from FG

[unborn rover]

Could be but I doubt it

Split the screen in half

Game runs at 60 FPS with FG

Right side of the screen is at 60 FPS

Left side is at 40 FPS

Whenever a tip pops up

[small marsh]

It'd make sense to try and run it in different layers though, no? Have the UI run at a different framerate, tied to its own unique layer. Or would that be too disruptive visually?

[unborn rover]

I'm not technical engineer, but what you're describing is exactly what I'm somewhat thinking is happening when something pops up on the left

The whole 50% of the left screen feels like it just kind of runs without FG whenever something is there

I might see if I can record it.

[unreal sentinel]

After I turned off FG everything became smooth again, even in cutscenes

[small marsh]

but muh fake frames

[spare socket]

Cutscenes stutter if they’re not at 30 or 60 base fps, framegen can interfere with that but is not inherently the cause.

[timid mist]

When an update breaks RenoDX so I cope

[thick edge]

using renodx is cheating

[limber halo]

He knows nothing about HDR

[thick edge]

you know nothing

[hexed bloom]

Jep that guy is just ridiculous tbh

[unreal fox]

Wdym he fixed hdr /s

[timid mist]

and it only took him 1 hour

[wet rivet]

updated for patch 1.4:
https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/8

[teal trout]

Is this like crimson desert where it has benefits for SDR or is it purely for HDR users?

[chrome heart]

anybody have gotten dynamic fg working in the game?

[small marsh]

Yes. You have to manually copy and overwrite Nvidia Streamline 2.11 DLL files you can find on the internet. You need to do this for every patch the game gets, as they get overwritten with the older versions that the game comes with.

With said updated streamline DLL files, you'll find dynamic MFG working as intended.

[chrome heart]

it will just show up as an option in the nvidia app then?

or do I still have to set it up through nvpi?

[small marsh]

Originally I set it up via profile inspector, but later the nvidia app got updated with expanded dynamic MFG support for games which included Death Stranding 2. I opened it up and it just reflected the settings I already set in profile inspector.

Regardless, you still need to manually overwrite new Streamline dll files for it to even work at all.

[chrome heart]

alright thanks for the info

ofc the nvidia gh doesn't have the newest streamline dll lol

[small marsh]

Obviously, Jensen wants you to work for that RTX 50 series exclusive feature, Paying out your ass isn't enough!

[chrome heart]

found the files, but they're missing the interposer

hmm

[small marsh]

https://ngx.download.nvidia.com/d6e9b45e-d4f6-4a84-a460-bf61decae3e8/org/nvidia/team/ngx/models/sl_sdk_0/versions/133888/files/1B0_E658703.zip

Man I keep redownloading this zip over and over, I'mma save it locally already

[chrome heart]

yeah I found this one, it's missing the interposer dll it seems

[small marsh]

Oh, I didn't look into it that deeply, I can just say that overwriting everything in the game's root folder with everything from that zip did that trick

[chrome heart]

alright, lemme try

[thorny badger]

were there any issues with patch 1.4?

I played probably 10 hours on 1.4 and don't think I ran into any issues

[wet rivet]

Mod didn’t work with fg

Like completely non functional in game

[thorny badger]

ah that makes sense. I'm not using FG

btw, I just beat the game and had a great time. I was using the purist preset, and there are a lot of cutscenes in the final stretch and it looked great with the mod. Visually, the main issue I noticed was banding, and I think the SDR EOTF emulation made it more noticeable in some darker cutscenes towards the the ending. Of course the benefit of avoiding gamma mismatch is much more significant

but I wonder why there's so much banding here, I remember it being the same on ps5. I guess its just a characteristic of the game

[tepid oracle]

What is the consensus around the Dlss preset to use? I’m using a 5070ti and 9800x3d and I find that preset L at 4K quality gives me an fps of 50-55, and I have to go to balanced to get a solid 60. Whereas Dlaa preset K gives me above 60. What’s the way to go here?

[warm spade]

Personally I was using preset M for a while but just couldn’t stand the ambient occlusion noise and switched to pico

[unborn rover]

L is supposed to be for 4k on performance or even lower.

Anything higher than performance, and you're better off using M

[shadow wave]

I used Preset L on Quality. Gives me average of 110fps without fg

[unreal fox]

L is truely meant for ultra performance
M for performance

But the performance cost isn’t the same on every card

The 4090, 5080, and 5090 GPUs have significantly lower performance costs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1q5ilbq/frame_time_costs_and_performance_analaysis_of/

[chrome heart]

I slap L on a lot of games

[tepid oracle]

Which gpu are you running on

[tepid oracle]

Isn’t it the case that L is the best model overall but that Nvidia recommends it for Ultra Performance because that’s the mode that needs it most and the lower internal resolution offsets the cost of the model?

[rotund salmon]

best is subjective, because L and M can fall apart pretty badly in certain scenes on games with RT due to how they interact with denoisers, but yeah, L is the heaviest model and that's where the ultra performance recommendation comes from

[unborn rover]

It definitely varies between games as Hitch said, I'd argue that there's no best or worst model because its all personal preference.

[spare socket]

New models are definitely the best if you’re using hdr

In the games with RT where they’re bad you can usually disable denoisers with U+

And in games like DS2 RT isn’t even worth enabling imo

[unborn rover]

Its all personal preference.

[spare socket]

nah

preset K overaverages highlights and neuters them

looks terrible

[unborn rover]

You're welcome to disagree, but you're wrong.

[spare socket]

sure man

[unborn rover]

Its all personal preference.

[spare socket]

lol

[unborn rover]

Solve me this equation

You dislike preset K

Someone likes preset K

[spare socket]

sure man

enjoy your preference

[unborn rover]

Can't believe I have to explain what personal preference is, and how someone disliking something doesn't make it bad.

Grow up people

[spare socket]

I mean

its perfectly fine to like something that's just worse

[unborn rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407562689768718416/1494018032434024569/RDT_20260415_1542335070958671660819598.gif

[spare socket]

if you tell me K looks better in those screenshots

omegaLUL

[unborn rover]

I don't care about you enough to look at your screenshots and justify your behaviour.

[spare socket]

LOL

ok

[rotund salmon]

surprised to see that difference between M/L in those comparisons

[spare socket]

It's fairly typical between those 2

M more detail

L more stable

🤷‍♂️

[cold cargo]

Actually digital foundry recommends Pico for this game

[rotund salmon]

their comparison/testing was super limited, PICO looks kind of ass in plenty of scenes, especially at longer distances

it's all whichever trade-offs you're happiest with at the end of the day

[small marsh]

I wonder if I can find videos online about DLSS 4.5 presets being better for HDR-
...Oh.

[spare socket]

my goat

Hardware unboxed guy reviews hdr monitors

and reccomends it

but apparently bro doesnt even play games HDR or something

[normal sleet]

M/L make highlights pop more but they are more expensive, more unstable in certain areas(especially when used with balanced and above) and have a slightly more aliased/sharpened look, K has less highlight pop but is more stable with cleaner image quality and is more performant

[wet rivet]

K fucked up highlights in hitman

Unusable

[spare socket]

it's also just soft, smeary and horrible on volumetrics 🤷‍♂️

[wet rivet]

Ya

[normal sleet]

which again bring us to this comment, more true than ever, it depends on the game and your personal preference

I've even seen some games defaulting to J, like tlou part 2, K is omega ghosty on that game, again there isn't a silver bullet

[unborn rover]

Y'all are lucky to have options.

I'm stuck with either FSR 2 in most games or XeSS

[normal sleet]

At least you have both kidneys, we had so sell ours for the privilege of having those options

[unborn rover]

I mean

I did spend €1.2k on my handheld

So

Kind of similar boat?

The only flex I have here is 32gb of DDR5 with 8k speeds on that handheld

[normal sleet]

desolder those chips, sell them, and buy an ngreedia card, problem solved

[unborn rover]

Cba

I like my handheld

I finally get to tinker with Linux.

[normal sleet]

your arms must be buff af i bet, some of those things are absolute units

[unborn rover]

Yeah, Legion Go 2 weights a shit ton

On the positive side, I'm fat and can use my stomach as a support

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-laughing-gif-3676435433606054883

[normal sleet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/improvise-adapt

[hexed bloom]

I didnt spend a dime for any RTX GPU, they keep their value and every 2 years I switch to latest model. Didn't spend anything on 3080, 3090, 4090, 5090, currently at positive balance even. That's actually the secret of being rich, all stuff you buy is rare enough it grows in value so you become even more rich by paying extra in the beginning. Clothes, jewelry, cars, electronics, you name it. World economics are stupid. Its almost impossible to actually spend money when you have a lot.

[normal sleet]

How the hell did you buy a 5090 without spending any money? a used 4090 can't possibly be worth 5090 money, it makes no sense

[rotund salmon]

that's exactly what happened for me

bought my 4090 FE for shy of £1600, then sold it for £1700 a couple of years later and got a 5090 FE for £1800

[normal sleet]

who the fuck buys a used 4090 for 1700??? My god people are dumb as hell

[rotund salmon]

they're going for £1800 - £2000 now lmao

[normal sleet]

I mean those are fouder's editions, they're the rarest, that makes some sort of sense I guess

[knotty bobcat]

in my country theres two 4090s used sold for 1600gbp, and one even at 1900gbp lolol

even tho theres 5080s being sold at 1000gbp

[rotund salmon]

yeah, but they're also the cheapest MSRP, that's how I was able to all but swap over to a 5090, they were both FEs

[normal sleet]

scalpers make buying founder's editions at MSRP almost impossibile, how the hell did you manage that

[rotund salmon]

joined a stock tracking Discord server and it pings you when stock is available

UK had a bunch of stock drops in the latter half of last year, so it wasn't so bad

got one the week after I decided to

seems like there's a FE drought this year, though

[normal sleet]

Need a phd just to buy a motherfucking GPU these days smh

[hexed bloom]

Not as bad as it sounds, you may use discord, telegram, twitter bots. They are all very easily available and easy to set up for push notifications on your phone. You just need a desk or home office job and have all logins for the shops available and prepared already in order to be quick enough as bots tend to buy all stock very quick. It doable and if it works you get 4k path tracing gaming which costs you almost nothing.

[shadow wave]

Bought my 4090 back in Oct 2022 for 1.9usd. Sold it for 1.6usd last year in feb 2025. Dont know if the price is right but the one who bought my 4090 was the shop I where I got my 5090.

Kind of a trade-im