Resident Evil Requiem

[fierce wedge]

oh ya just tried it out

[signal sky]

Oopsie then

[sand pivot]

if i leave the fp16 default i get the artifacts

[fierce wedge]

let me narrow it down to render targets only

[sand pivot]

felt like a techo party in my room with those lights!!!

[fierce wedge]

• adds fp16 upgrades for nvidia
• only applies to resources at output resolution
• need someone to test and see if it makes a noticeable difference with upscaling on

[oak maple]

Wonder what the perf hit is like for upgrades

[arctic solstice]

I added it to my game folder

and my game don't work no more

[coarse kettle]

Mine works and everything seems fine at first sight

[arctic solstice]

o I know it's my fault

idk what i did tho LOL

[sand pivot]

now were talking!

[signal sky]

Oh, right. It probably has a cost

That I probably can´t take

Unless it´s negligible

[coarse kettle]

well, i think i played the game in the beginning with 120 stable. now is at 88fps. but i clicked automatic graphics again... so... idk

it would be better more feedback

[fierce wedge]

2.2 per channel / 2.2 luminosity

[coarse kettle]

and "updated" reshade and reframework

[signal sky]

Luminosity looks noticeably better, no?

[limpid ivy]

Do I understand correctly that this mod does not make sense for SDR TV? So there won't be any improvements in my case?

[signal sky]

This is a HDR mod

Its a HDR discord I mean xD

[coarse kettle]

well, the renodx for Final Fantasy XV has a upgraded SDR option. but i dont know how it works

[limpid ivy]

Ok , The thing is that they sometimes introduce certain enhancements for the SDR mode 🙂

[wraith rivet]

what u are using now match sdr or preserve shadow dt

[lunar bridge]

Can someone show me a link to this boiling issue with Preset D? I'm looking around and nothing stands out to me exactly

[signal sky]

Dont!! Once you see it there´s no going back xD

[signal sky]

Match

[signal sky]

Oh I actually didn´t know that, my bad

[sharp stump]

in the intro when you see fence from entering ally to the hotel you will see it. From the main street.

[lunar bridge]

Sort of like noise?

[sharp stump]

its a lot of noise and such.

[lunar bridge]

Ahh ok

[sharp stump]

And then once you get inside building right in the main part you will see some sort of haze from fog and furniture.

I haven't really gotten far in the game

I just got to the clinic part.

[lunar bridge]

Ahh ok I mean I noticed it but eh

I'll check out E regardless

[sharp stump]

yeah its called boiling or such.

E is a lot of ghosting I think?

[signal sky]

Yep

[sharp stump]

it has a lot of issues. Want to use default b/c overall it looks better.

[signal sky]

D also has a biiiiit of ghosting but much less

[fierce wedge]

the mod is mainly just fixing hdr to be more like sdr tbh

[signal sky]

https://youtu.be/82z326-STqI?si=8hjFLIa9g5QD6xIg

Good tests here

[fierce wedge]

the film grain/noise sliders will still work in sdr though

so there's something there for sdr users

[lunar bridge]

It's not really oppressive in my opinion but I can understand why it's annoying for some

[sharp stump]

The 16 bit upgrade shouldn't cost any fps really.

its negigible.

[lunar bridge]

I think so eine said E had ghosting but then others apparently didn't see it

I'll just check for myself

[sharp stump]

a lot of ppl stated e is worse than d in more cases.

overall.

[signal sky]

E does improve boiling quite a bit it seems

[fierce wedge]

ya

[sharp stump]

I think someone stated e is perfect for ending area.

[signal sky]

So it’s boiling vs ghosting xD

[signal sky]

Will be swapping to that then. Probably should be the new default

[fierce wedge]

its always been the default

[signal sky]

Huh? By luminosity?

[fierce wedge]

ya

[sharp stump]

yup

[fierce wedge]

match sdr changes it to per channel

[signal sky]

Mine was set to per channel

Unless I did something wrong

[sharp stump]

that is SDR preset

[fierce wedge]

cause that's what sdr would actually be doing

[signal sky]

Oh ok

[sharp stump]

when you click SDR mode it changes it 🙂

[signal sky]

Sdr looks like that? Why?

The wood looks red

[coarse kettle]

to be fair there are a ton types of woods and finishing xD

[signal sky]

Welp yeah true

Idk it looked wrong in per channel that one shot

[wraith rivet]

im using preserve shadow dt + liliums hdr black floor fix with 20 nits

looks ok

[signal sky]

Why would you use black floor on top tho

[wraith rivet]

preserve shadow dt its little too much black rise

just need that 10-20 nits to be perfect

[foggy tide]

anyone encountered this?

[signal sky]

Ye that’s what match sdr fixes no? Doesn’t applying black floor to that make it look the same as match sdr?

[wraith rivet]

match sdr way too dark

[signal sky]

Oh… interesting

[wraith rivet]

for me

[signal sky]

So it’s a middle ground

[wraith rivet]

try it now

[signal sky]

Will do

I do like match sdr tho

[wraith rivet]

put preserve dt preset lilium 20 nits and saturation 55

for me its ok

[gritty pond]

you'd be better off just moving sliders in reno if you want to tweak it, there's never any need to use black floor fix at the same time

[signal sky]

It looks dark af and contrasty. Suits the game (+ it matches sdr which is the main thing)

[signal sky]

Yeah I would say so too

[wraith rivet]

@fierce wedge what scende grading do? because its add that yellow piss filer

its just that or need to be 100?

[signal sky]

It’s the color grading

Pretty descriptive I mean

[wraith rivet]

i mean you can turn it off or its wrong?

[signal sky]

It’s wrong

But you can

[wraith rivet]

i dont really like that yellow piss filer

ahahah

[fierce wedge]

basically the whole eotf emulation is cause in SDR games use sRGB gamma but are usually developed on 2.2 gamma displays. This causes an extra contrast boost in SDR that isn't there in HDR unless developers correct for it manually. Gamma encoding/decoding works on each channel separately hence per channel. Treating each rgb channel separately causing hues to shift because it isn't accounting for how our eyes weigh r,g, and b separately

[fierce wedge]

100, that's the game's color grading

inherent to the way it looks

I wouldn't ever turn it off, at least not on a first playthrough

[wraith rivet]

btw yeah match sdr looks good on open world

but when u are in pitch black areas

you cant see shit

[signal sky]

Thanks for the lesson! I don’t like not understanding things

I guess I’ll do per channel for the first run then since it’s the most faithful

[signal sky]

That’s the point

[wraith rivet]

just a question guys because i never understand that

you can turn off this 2 every time right?

i mean on every game you dont need that

[signal sky]

Yes

[wraith rivet]

thx

[signal sky]

It’s recommended actually

[knotty apex]

@fierce wedge still banding in cutscenes (midgame spoilers)

could be dlss preset m or yeah the dof or something

[sharp stump]

is M better than L?

doesn't RR override DLSS Preset anyways?

[knotty apex]

i'm not using path tracing because it cuts my framerate in half

[sharp stump]

ah ok so RR is off then.

[knotty apex]

l is supposed to look marginally better than m but i do not care for the extra performance hit there either

[sharp stump]

Btw loving the new Shadow preservation mode.

[foggy walrus]

what's the reason behind turning it off for every game out of curiosity?

[sharp stump]

it causes stutter and such when on.

[gritty pond]

L has its own shortcomings at times as well, like on super fine stuff such as the spider web in this comparison (follow the link), it fills it out too much compared to M
https://imgsli.com/NDQyNTM3

[knotty apex]

main thing though is something about both the new presets work differently and can cause severe banding in some games

probably because they force on autoexposure

[gritty pond]

yeah, Death Stranding gets hit bad with that in the sky

on L and M

[knotty apex]

forza horizon 5 too

[wet kiln]

Am I blind or do they kinda look identical? And which one supposedly has less inky black?

[knotty apex]

its a color thing and not a luminance thing

per channel tends to oversaturate slightly

[fierce wedge]

I’m making channel roughly match the saturation of luminance so it’s more hues

[wet kiln]

Ah. I'm still trying to find out why I have black crushes with gamma correction on, messing with contrast and gamma kinda helps but then it looks terrible in scenes with low/no light

[knotty apex]

make sure it's not just your display having poor eotf tracking

i'm a little cursed with that

[signal sky]

Its supposed to look like that

Depends on the screen but sdr is kinda “crushed” too

[sharp stump]

So I am in clinic start with grace and realized that you can see grace reflection in the glass lamp. Pretty damn cool actually.

[coarse kettle]

For someone asking why I could override to preset E thought DLSS Swapper, it seems it was because I was in 595 driver. I went back to 591 and I can’t now

[signal sky]

Weird af

[fierce wedge]

you can try the preserve shadow detail button

you just have to toggle hdr off and on again after clicking it

[signal sky]

I mean in scenes with no light it will also look pitch black

Its how the game is designed (except the hero lighting)

[sharp stump]

use Ultra+ mod to get rid of hero rim lighting 😏

[signal sky]

Oh I requested that mod in the first place lol

Im so using it

Its so good you truly can´t see shit like that

Perfection

This is the darkest game I´ve played in my OLED I think

Significantly darker than SH2 for example

It really shines

[sharp stump]

use DC command center and can create profile for game and can use E.

[signal sky]

Oh shoot can you do this live?

Like swap between then real time

[sharp stump]

uh not exactly. Gotta restart game when do tweaks.

[signal sky]

Ohhh ok

[velvet ferry]

Man holy moly this game looks so unreal with U+ tweaks and Reno with it cranked.

[sharp stump]

but it can be done from DC mod.

[signal sky]

What U+ tweaks are u using?

Im really really torn on whether to use RC or no tbh

[velvet ferry]

I have it on

I don't notice much bleed and it helps with the boil

[wet kiln]

Yep this is true, just booted it on in SDR

[signal sky]

Yeah, trust Musa and all will be good if you want accuracy hahahaha

[wet kiln]

Now it makes sense as I have the og DW

[knotty apex]

the dw is fine

the dwf isnt

[signal sky]

The f stands for fucked I see

[knotty apex]

yup

[rich sigil]

i installed the mod and this happened?

[velvet ferry]

This is what I'm settling on

[rich sigil]

I'm trying to up the gamma/brightness but its hard to do and the games OG settings kinda just dont bother with lol

[sweet estuary]

Welp, 581.42 gave me the dreaded black screen bug again

Where screen just goes black like HDR is turned off and on

But when gaming it doesn’t come back

Until I restart, and the Audio is still going

Ruined a really emotional moment

[solid shale]

are those mods like u+ highly reccomended?

[woeful shadow]

Do you guys mess with the saturation at all?

[solid shale]

i think saturation is always just personal prefernce

the most "accurate" look can look a bit washed out if ur not used to it, i prefer a bit of extra saturation personally

is their a way to fix this??? rly weird, im using DLAA

ok nvm im dumb it was on dlss performance even tho i told it to use dlaa

still looks way worse than it should tho

[eager veldt]

seems to be a bug

it happens to me every time i reboot the game, dlss is automatically reset to performance mode

hope they fix it soon

[versed magnet]

I highly recommend using a local contrast shader. The game has a rather soft filmic look, bloomy with lots of volumetrics. That's nice enough. But some local contrast really makes it pop.
I'm using Quark: Local Contrast (Laplacian mode).

[sweet estuary]

You’re on a HDR server 😭

[versed magnet]

Yeah, so? Is it the fact that my screenshots aren't in HDR?

Been meaning to switch to a screen capture tool that supports HDR, but haven't gotten around to it. Using afterburner ATM. What's good?

[nocturne vine]

Quick reminder, but do we need to do anything with REFramework's in-game menu? Or just close the window and leave it all default?

Oh shit, we have a warning now in mods, nice.

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[sweet estuary]

reshade

[arctic solstice]

Idk what that is but your game does look really good

[noble veldt]

+1 on this. I just x it out upon boot up

[oak maple]

you can set it to remember window state

then it'll start with the window closed as long as that's how you left it

[nocturne vine]

Yeah

I meant more so I don't have to configure anything in there, right

I just did a session with it all left to default.

[oak maple]

yeah you don't have to do anything

though I disabled vignette since it basically just leads to black crush

[ivory walrus]

Can someone tell me how to fix this?

[dire helm]

Are you guys using the ultra+ mod?

[winged apex]

what mod

[foggy tide]

how to install U+?

[finite portal]

I think .lua means it needs to go into the re framework auto run folder. There is an RE Framework folder in the game folder once you started the game with the mod once and inside that an auto run folder where you dump the lua file into

[lunar bridge]

I hear the ray bounces on that mod improve how PT looks

Haven't tried it myself though

[wise comet]

theres some perf and quality gains to be had by messing with the radiance cache settings, but while peeps have found a few variations that look great most of the game, they cause issues in some individual sections

so worthwhile playing around with if you can be bothered, but seems like theres a reason they decided to ship with NRC off

maxing ray bounces to 16 is a hella easy win tho

shockingly small impact on performance for a fairly major impact on the boiling if playing w PT 👍

keep in mind its not a "fully formed" product for lack of a better term than the Unreal Engine U+ mods, so there's less guidance in terms of "right/better settings", more something for the community to mess around with. that having been said theres a few simply things (like maxing out ray bounces) that are easy wins

and yeah, the .lua scripts just get dropped into the game exe folder/reframework/autorun/

and then show up as the bottom most category in REframework and can be edited live from the UI in game

[dense sapphire]

I didn't see a noticeable difference in boiling by just increasing ray bounces tbh

Boiling might even be worse with 16 bounce in that comparison

[pliant maple]

Late to the party, but I am seeing conflicting messages in regards to ray reconstruction over the internet. Which is better: Preset D or E?

[pliant maple]

My display is 4k and I am using either DLSS quality or balanced with path tracing

[thorny grotto]

Which GPU u have?

[dire helm]

"it depends". It's basically a choice between boiling or ghosting.

Preset E is rarely shipped in games because it has a decent amount of flaws

I would suggest Preset D and just try to get over the boiling

[finite portal]

One thing that I’m curious about is to completely deactivate RR und to try preset M. In some games that actually leads to better results

[dire helm]

It would be interesting, but I bet Path Tracing would look real bad

[finite portal]

But I think that is more like a fallback for games that don’t support RR at all and use an internal (bad) denoiser

[heady arch]

Preset E can look like garbage at times, for example:

https://imgsli.com/NDUyODE2

[dense sapphire]

It's bad, I tried it

Way too noisy for PT

[finite portal]

Overall I see Pathtracing as a win and RER is the first game where I actually think it’s worth the disadvantages. Every time I used Pathtracing in other games the base frame rate was so dogshit it just felt bad to play with frame gen.

In RER I can hit 80 fps with DLSS performance, which his high enough to bloat it to the 160 I’m aiming at usually and aiming still feels good.

I think RER is the first of recent releases (after RE7) that nails core gameplay. Guns don’t bloom on the slightest right stick/mouse movement anymore, there is some kind of buffer. Animations are snappy but your character has weight. Better than GTA V or Read Dead 2 that have a similar approach for character movement but it can feel clunky at times.

Hit animations are excellent, weapon animations are great (especially the transitions from over the shoulder into a red dot scope) and melee combat really shines with exaggerated but punchy animations.

Can’t understate on how good of a job they did here. For me it’s reference level.

[pliant maple]

Thanks for the reply. It’s unfortunate, as it seems to be pick your poison situation. I am noticing the boiling in grace’s early section and hoped maybe Preset E would resolve it, but it seems I would be fixing it but getting ghosting in return 🥲

[dense sapphire]

The beginning area is the worst for image quality, it does get better after that

[finite portal]

How so? Is there a mod? Just curious, as I said I don’t expect it to be better I just want to see it myself and the performance impact

[steady flame]

its just the depth of field

[dense sapphire]

You can force disable RR with the U+ mod

idk if you're in their discord, I can just send the file

[wet kiln]

.94 did that for me, no issue on .42, so rather a hit and miss for different cards

Holy heck the latest Reno addon is a game changer for me, esp the preserve shadow details button. No more washed out looking anything in some bright scenes with the og tonemapping and shadows are really deep without being crushed like the previous mod with gamma correction on!

[distant marlin]

what's gamma correction? the in-game gamma setting?

[wet kiln]

The SDR EOTF emulation in the mod

Default is set to 2.2

[unkempt seal]

What’s tile size and scene scale?

[surreal cliff]

Boiling is especially noticeable in the last section of the game, really distracting. I’ll try to up the ray bounces later today if it fixes it.

[polar summit]

use preset E there

works really well in that part

virtually no ghosting

and no boiling

E still has some oversharpening artifacts tho, so you might still not like it

[gentle basalt]

hey i have same monitor what settings you settled for?

[heady arch]

Console HDR(No dynamic boost) and match SDR for RenoDX(I wanna test the new defaults though)

[surreal cliff]

I tried, it improves but has some drawbacks on other things. I’ll try to see if the ray bounces can get the best look with the less drawbacks.

[velvet ferry]

5090

[velvet ferry]

Unsure really, just was messing around and settled on what looks best for me. From what I can tell tile size caches ray data at finer levels the lower the tile size and lower scene scale helps with light bleed

[kindred bough]

Same, nothing really changed

[thorny grotto]

I see everyone using these settings

[surreal cliff]

So reducing the number of bounces would be better?

[versed magnet]

With radiance cache, you don't need more PT Bounces. And they do cost a bit of performance.

[thorny grotto]

@versed magnet he made these settings

[thorny grotto]

I was calling u out 🤣

[versed magnet]

⛔ But everyone should know that there is a risk of crashing with Radiance Cache. ⛔ But so far I've only seen it happen in one level, mid/late game, in ||Racoon City Police Station.||

And they do make some dark corridors very bright in a few instances. But 95% of the time, they're a straight up win. Better performance and lighting.

[unkempt seal]

yeah I saw a few screenshots in U+ discord comparing RC on and off and in some cases some areas were super bright, almost like it brought back hero light

[raw ridge]

Guys i renodx working fine for you all?

[versed magnet]

I mean, in some cases, it makes it brighter, but in a good way IMO. Like here. Still appropriately dark under the stairs and behind the crate. It's too dark otherwise, because of too few samples I think.

And here, also in a good way.

But this is not good. ⬇️
Here it changes dramatically depending on you position and camera angle, and lights up a corner that light shouldn't reach. But only seen it be this bad in these dark corridors.

[terse field]

This is bringing back in a lot of nonsensical lighting that PT is meant to eliminate in the first place though, in all three cases here

The first one can be a bit more debatable, would need to see the full scene to be sure about where the lighting is coming from, but the way the roof area is lit in second one looks very wrong for example, and the third is already self explanatory like you said 🙂

By boosting the incoming amount of energy so much, it also tends to flatten the scenes a lot

[versed magnet]

I would agree that it does make it a bit too bright. But the two areas in question are too dark as is, and really noisy and splotcy. If you saw the scenes in game, I think you would agree. The ceiling in the second one should be brighter, and it still has good occlusion at the crossbeams, and in between the crates.

[terse field]

There’s virtually no shadowing information left on that roof area in the second example, it’s… flatter, like I said, with a much weaker sense of depth.

This is an area meant to be in shadows, and it seems to simply boost the energy it receives but as some kind of post process of sort, not in the same way as if you’d increase the number of rays alongside the dept at which they’re allowed to bounce.

Do we know if this is using RTX Neural Radiance Cache, or is it something they cooked internally?

[unique snow]

this looks terrible

that is like using PT w/o actually being PT

[terse field]

#1477506311553028167 message

This is another case that looks problematic to me, for example.

While I fully agree that the canisters outputting light in the scene would have looked amazing… it’s doing so with the radiance cache again by “just” boosting the energy it thinks should’ve been output by these red canisters, but without the shadowing of the scene being affected

[desert nebula]

Yeah that looks strange

[terse field]

Look at how the pipes and metal parts on the wall look like they’re floating now, as there’s no more shadows being cast, despite another light source being introduced

This is exactly the kind of things I am trying to avoid and eliminate when I am willing to pay for the PT performance tax, personally 😛

[thorny grotto]

tbh i ended up using 5 bounce lights instead of 3 and removed radiant cache and it looks really good. Doesn't adjust boiling but some overdarken areas get just a tiny bit of light more

[karmic jasper]

I've yet to start playing this but where do you start

Drivers, ray reconstruction presets, renodx, ultra plus

[signal sky]

You only really need to install Reframework + Reno and enjoy imo

Also remove hero light if you want to

[versed magnet]

Well, agree to disagree I suppose.

[karmic jasper]

Is there more than one source showing that old drivers have a measurable impact on perf. For 50 series owners?

[signal sky]

Yeah but it’s not consistent

I would try the first scene and check power draw

Depending on that you might or might not need to roll back

Check this for exact info

https://youtu.be/82z326-STqI?si=_fnqOgb4qurVHoM4

What I mean by consistent is that not every card is affected even within 5000 series

[lime nimbus]

I’m not sure if the game itself is stuttering or reframework is causing the insane stutters when you’re tuning around every 30 seconds

It’s like a hiccup

[terse field]

Are you using an old REFramework?

[lime nimbus]

I just setup everything again today

I’m on the 5090 with PT and dlss quality + fg x 2

[terse field]

They fixed the stutter around the next day following the initial working release

[lime nimbus]

Turning off fg and capping to 60 removes most of the stuttering

[sonic musk]

New driver is out
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-595-71-whql-driver.459562/

[signal sky]

There’s still some weird lags

They are not frequent tho

[signal sky]

Welp then it’s clearly not Reframework imo

It’s been pretty smooth for me so far

[lime nimbus]

What gpu

And settings

[signal sky]

Not perfect, but for a new AAA release nowadays it’s pretty damn close

[signal sky]

4080 maxed 4K

[lime nimbus]

Pt? And frame gen?

[signal sky]

Yep

[lime nimbus]

How are your frames?

[signal sky]

120 in interiors and depends for everything else

Mostly 90-120

[lime nimbus]

My frame rate is fine, it’s only every 30 seconds that it has hiccups

I’m locked at 116

Which is good

[signal sky]

Check your vram

[lime nimbus]

And I’m also seeing people upgrading “direct storage” something

I never understood what that was

[unique snow]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/265180/

[lime nimbus]

To fix stutters

[unique snow]

Game Ready for Resident Evil Requiem

This new Game Ready Driver provides the best gaming experience for the latest new games supporting DLSS 4 technology including Resident Evil Requiem. In addition, there is Game Ready support for Marathon which features DLSS Super Resolution and NVIDIA Reflex.

Fixed Gaming Bugs

The Ascent: Intermittent black bar on top of screen on GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs [5859818]
Total War: THREE KINGDOMS: Green artifacts appear on GeForce RTX 50 series [5745647]
FINAL FANTASY XII The Zodiac Age crashes with fatal error after driver update [5741199]
Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2019) displays image corruption after driver update [5733427]
Quantum Break: Performance drops significantly on Act 4 Part 1 [5607678]

Fixed General Bugs

595.59: HW monitoring utilities not detecting all fans on the GPU [5934264]
595.59: One or more fans not spinning on GPUs after driver update [5934333]
Blackmagic Design: AV1 decode crash with multiple obu in one packet [5671098]

[signal sky]

Nah that’s copium

[terse field]

Can say I didn’t get much if any in my few hours at least, aside from what I imagine are some good old 1-frame traversal stutter

[signal sky]

Oh they’re out already. Nice

[lime nimbus]

Driver dropped?

I’ll wait for people to beta test

[terse field]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[lime nimbus]

Not downloading this

[signal sky]

I got like 1 in the first hour and that’s it

[lime nimbus]

Until further reviews

[signal sky]

It’s very uncommon but it can happen

[signal sky]

I’m not downloading ever lol I’m staying where I am

[terse field]

My point being, given that RE games are prone to these traversal/loading stutters, I find it hard to just attribute these to REF 🙂

[signal sky]

Yeah it was not a stutter tho

It was a lag

Weird behavior I’ve never seen

[terse field]

🤔

[signal sky]

Hence why I say it’s probably Ref

[terse field]

What was it doing

[signal sky]

It’s like it stops and then fast forwards for a sec

Less than a sec

Literally like you would when you lag in a multiplayer

[terse field]

Weird

[signal sky]

My guess is the antitamper lingering there and fucking with you sometimes

[lime nimbus]

Which driver are you on

[signal sky]

581.94

I never update

I will stay in this one till I get a real issue with it

[unique snow]

there is also a new reshade:

6.7.3:
Fixed SPIR-V cache breaking when previous cache was read partially (causing "Failed to create pipeline ..." errors)
Fixed usage of Vulkan host image copy extension forcing all resources into host coherent memory
Fixed OpenComposite aborting with ReShade loaded
Changed DirectInput hooks to not call any methods on DirectInput device during creation, to avoid potential interference with other DirectInput hooks like Steam Input
Changed setup tool to only delete binary from banned applications, rather than performing full uninstall

[heady arch]

595.71 out

I hope everything works as intended

[teal mountain]

I had the same issues with stutters, also PT+FG, ended up capping frames to like 114 using displaycommander and never had a stutter since (it would still stutter if I capped at like 115-116 no idea why)

[lime nimbus]

So I’ll just cap to 114 from nvcp?

Why displaycommander?

[teal mountain]

I tend to have better frame times using DC cap

but you could try, who knows

[lime nimbus]

Interesting

[teal mountain]

I basically don't get any VRR flicker as a result, or not any that I see

[terse field]

It’s more or less the same as the SK frame limiter, which is the best one

[unkempt seal]

I've just started using DC and it's as easy as just selecting VRR Cap and it instantly adds the correct framerate cap for your max hz. Plus it supposedly has better frame pacing but haven't fully tested in comparison

[lime nimbus]

Has blur busters tested this?

[carmine lantern]

Do use the default limiter or reflex limiter in dc

[lime nimbus]

Their recommendation was to use nvcp to set vsync on and frame rate limit

[unkempt seal]

in a game like this, that has native reflex, are you only framecapping and that's it? Nothing else?

[teal mountain]

just default, also I tried to use VRR Cap (which sets fps to 115 ish in my case) and it would still stutter for some reason, that's why i lowered manually to 114 and it's been perfect so far, not the best equipped person to explain why or how tbh

[teal mountain]

yeah

[signal sky]

Found the same too

Probably it spikes in some weird way and the cap leaves breathing room till the vsync limit

Or reflex acting funny

[heady arch]

When you say stutters, you mean big freezes/pauses or small hitches?

[signal sky]

I mean stutters

[heady arch]

1 sec pause then

[signal sky]

I only got them once I got to the clinic

[teal mountain]

it was proper stutters for me, very bad ones

yeah

[analog cave]

Please god let 40 series performance work

[heady arch]

damn, i just notice small hitches here and there and I think its REFramework causing them

[signal sky]

Could be

It’s not too bad for me so far

I only had it in one room for some reason

[sand pivot]

i got them before REF and now

[heady arch]

I wanna try the new driver, see if its better

[sand pivot]

specially with fist person mode on turning

but not game breaking

cause action is flawless

[unique snow]

old ref?

[sand pivot]

new

[signal sky]

You mean constantly turning the camera fast?

[sand pivot]

yeah! that's when i usually get them at times

[signal sky]

Hahahahahah yeah I was doing the same to test

[sand pivot]

with leon i don't seem to notice anything

[signal sky]

I find that this happens in A LOT of games for me

It’s “normal” I would say

[sand pivot]

somebody in a review mention the moving camera stutter also

[signal sky]

During normal play it’s fine

[unkempt seal]

so Reflex in-game is already limiting to 116 but DC is limiting to 114? Any other setting or type of limiter etc?

[signal sky]

That should be enough

You can always try to cap even lower for more buffer

110 or so

[teal mountain]

yeah I did 114 cause I know I can maintain it but go lower if you can't

[signal sky]

You don’t really need to maintain it all the time tho

I mantain it mostly in interiors

But I drop to 90 or lower in some areas. And it’s fine, 0 stutter

[teal mountain]

ah cool, good to know

[sand pivot]

curious is this new driver will give you same fps as the old one

[polar summit]

any 4090 beta testers

[sand pivot]

i would do it

i'm at work today 🙁

not sitting on my ass today ahaha

[polar summit]

the release they pulled cuz of the fan issue

also ran like ass

So I don't have high hopes

[foggy tide]

Just updated. 5090

[polar summit]

5090 ran fairly consistently tho

harder to notice the difference

but on 4090 the first scene you have control of is like

35 vs 60 fps

[foggy tide]

It gained me 15fps when i rolled

[unique snow]

for some people the website doesn't seem to show the driver, direct link in case: https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/595.71/595.71-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe

[lunar bridge]

What about the new game ready drivers

They are back out

Curious to know if performance is better than the 591 variation of drivers

That way I don't have to roll back to the old drivers

[unique snow]

for some reason your GPU is not fully used

on my 5080 I had 99~100% GPU usage all the time

[lunar bridge]

That's the problem

In this game with the 591 drivers the 5090 never reached full gpu load

On the older drivers it does though

Hence the side by side imagine showing 100% usage on the older driver

[serene shore]

Anyone tested different drivers with a 5080 ?

[lunar bridge]

It likely affects all 40 and 50 series cards

[foggy tide]

for 591.86, hence I rolled back to 576.88. I just updated to the latest. I will test

[signal sky]

It doesnt

My 4080 is fine

Not on latest tho

[unique snow]

I can tell you that for me the "old" 595 driver fully utilises it, never tried any other driver

[signal sky]

But neither on that recommended driver

Just install a known stable driver and play imo. The game ready one wont make the game run better. If anything it´ll run worse

[lunar bridge]

You rolled back and didn't see a gain?

[signal sky]

I didnt need to roll back

I use a stable driver and never update to latest

581.94

[lunar bridge]

Then how do you know there's no gain?

[signal sky]

Cause the GPU is being fully utilized

And drawing 310W which is the max it can draw

[sand pivot]

Before wrapping up, I should mention a strange issue I encountered. There appears to be a performance bug/issue related to camera movement. When you move the camera quickly, performance drops noticeably, and you get lots of stutters. However, if you move it slowly, the issue doesn’t occur. I’m not sure what’s causing this. I was able to replicate this multiple times on both NVIDIA’s and AMD’s GPUs

[lunar bridge]

My GPU is fully utilized to with FG on

[signal sky]

Yep this is happening for sure

[sand pivot]

this is the review that mention the stuffer guys!

[signal sky]

You need to look at power usage too

[lunar bridge]

Yeah it's at 480-500w

500+ I should say

[serene shore]

Have you checked without FG if the issue persists ?

[lunar bridge]

But like the photo above I'd see those gains by rolling back the drivers

[signal sky]

That doesnt make a lot of sense but then again Nvidia drivers dont make sense either so I dont know xD

Im already getting really good perf so I wont go thru the hassle of updating/dowgrading drivers tho

[lunar bridge]

In fact the 591 drivers are worse for the 4070ti as well

[signal sky]

Yeah but for the 4080 I havent seen any reports

[lunar bridge]

Doubt its not affecting the 4080s

[signal sky]

Everyone says its ok

[lunar bridge]

Well I mean I'm not saying it's not ok

I'm sure it's more than playable

But I'm betting you're not getting as much fps as you would if you rolled back

Might not mean much to most though

[signal sky]

Don´t think so but Im not rolling back for anecdotical +10fps tbh

[lunar bridge]

Yeah I mean if you're happy where you're at

[signal sky]

for those updating lol

You might aswell start to roll back

[lunar bridge]

Ahahaha

I knew it

Well that's Nvidia for you

New age Nvidia

[dense sapphire]

This new Game Ready Driver provides the best gaming experience for the latest new games supporting DLSS 4 technology including Resident Evil Requiem

lol

[lunar bridge]

Do you have the full link to this by the way?

[carmine lantern]

It’s on the Reddit thread for the new driver

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/EJVAh0bQtN

[dense sapphire]

Also curious which effects aren't rendering

And on which drivers, everything before this newest one?

[lunar bridge]

Thank you

Yeah, I'm curious on that as well.

[unique snow]

this is what I always assume when I read reports

"old driver just doesn't render everything -> more perf"

I mean of course that makes sense

[terse field]

https://youtu.be/-w-58hQ9dLk?si=ruLQwf_wlW7en4by

[mental glen]

So 576 driver is cope ?

[unique snow]

if your GPU is not at 99~100% load you are probably suffering from a different issue

GPU lower than usual voltage cap issue resulting in lower base and/or boost clocks hasn't been addressed on previously impacted systems here - requires further testing to confirm

like this

(which my 5080 does not)

[lunar bridge]

Mmm

I'm assuming that statement is referring to when 595 originally released

I don't think thats a reference to 591 drivers

Actually that wouldn't make sense at all. Why would rolling back to older drivers utilize more of your GPU while also not rendering some effects

[plucky flint]

damn hope someone makes a comparison vid

[sonic musk]

Probably the reason DF video is taking so long

[lunar bridge]

Likely

Pretty much why I haven't rolled back yet personally

But I have a 5090 so it's not like my performance is really bad to begin with

[sweet estuary]

You keep saying that as a gotcha but we have literally seen older drivers NOT use enough wattage

[sonic musk]

Wait a second
You're not ShortFuse

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-itysl-tim-robinson-darmine-gif-6990077822131978261

[lunar bridge]

Ahahaha no I'm not

[copper raven]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

[lunar bridge]

I swear when I joined the channel I had zero idea who that was

I've had this for a decade now

[sweet estuary]

My 5090 was using 470 watts, with the older driver it’s using 550

[serene shore]

Alex has a back issue and that will affect his work for the following months. I don't think they can pump out the PC content that fast anymore

[sweet estuary]

No

[sweet estuary]

Plus we do not know which effects aren’t being used

[lunar bridge]

Right. So my thing is, are they saying the newer drivers are just more power efficient And the older drivers aren't?

[gritty pond]

I've not rolled back, but on 595.xx I'm exactly the same on my 5090, ~470W is where it caps out

[lunar bridge]

Which is the difference we see

[sweet estuary]

Well the increase in perf corresponds with power difference

[lunar bridge]

Exactly

[mental glen]

I mean kinda sounds like it

[sweet estuary]

What settings?

[lunar bridge]

So how are we having less "effects" more power power draw

Guess we'll need to have a deep dive on it from someone

[sonic musk]

I'm aware of that, but they said in the Patreon message last week (24/02) that he was already working on a video (two even), I can only assume the PC coverage was delayed due to the driver shenanigans

[sweet estuary]

M w h said there are less effects but he hasn’t given any example lmao

[gritty pond]

maxed out with PT enabled and DLSS performance, but FG is disabled

[lunar bridge]

Yeah that's why I'm not really quick to believe that statement

[gritty pond]

(5160x2160)

[unique snow]

I also posted:

GPU lower than usual voltage cap issue resulting in lower base and/or boost clocks hasn't been addressed on previously impacted systems here - requires further testing to confirm
could be the actual issue

[polar summit]

why would rendering less have an effect on power draw

[sweet estuary]

Yeah I get around 90 fps in that scene and my gpu uses 570 watts

[sweet estuary]

Oh

Oh it’s not 4K my bad

[serene shore]

I heard latest drivers fix the FG stutters. Will also check on my 5080 in a few hours

[sweet estuary]

Is this the newest driver?

[gritty pond]

it's the one they pulled for fan issues, I'll try today's in a sec, but I'd expect it to be identical and just fixing the fan problem

[sand pivot]

Alex might be going nuts!!!!

[sand pivot]

Daniel stayed he didn't notice any quality difference! i didn't notice either

[unique snow]

alex also has health issues

he can't work as much as before

at least that is what he said on the df direct podcast (or whatever it is called again)

[lunar bridge]

Yep he did say that.

[sand pivot]

but i have 581.42

[sand pivot]

yeah! sad to hear! i'm in health care and what he has is not a thing you want to live with! 🙁

[lunar bridge]

Yeah I've heard those drivers give the same increase and are newer

[surreal cliff]

I’m in the same situation, micro freezes all around, not at a point to make it unplayable but really annoying.

[lime nimbus]

Cap to 60 and turn frame gen off

Or try the other method above and cap to 114 or lower

[signal sky]

Alex Battaglia has health issues. That’s why

[signal sky]

Ohhh gotcha

[carmine lantern]

I hope so

[heady arch]

Does renoDX work with the latest AC: Mirage patch ?

[surreal cliff]

Can’t play at 60 anymore, I took the pill and I need 120fps minimum

[quasi lodge]

what's wrong with him

[lime nimbus]

Yeah it took me a while to get used to the 60 lol

[eternal hinge]

Did Musa make a new addon for RE9?

[signal sky]

Back issues

[serene shore]

Yes, latest ver is up on nexusmods. Easy access through the pinned comment

[eternal hinge]

Ayee

[sweet estuary]

Back issues

[formal tapir]

are some of the textures just rlly low quality or is smt funky going on

[carmine lantern]

Yeah I’ve noticed that too some of the textures aren’t that great

[thorny grotto]

installed new drivers game doesn't boot at all

[heady arch]

The game is silky smooth with the latest drivers

no more hitches

[austere hare]

Has it fixed FG stutters?

[chilly gyro]

Nvidiot dropped a new driver ?

[heady arch]

yeah 595.75

[heady arch]

4K + PT + DLSS Q + FG X2 silky smooth

on a 5090

[formal tapir]

capcom games usually ship with busted texture settings so who knows

[chilly gyro]

Oh sexual,hopefully it’s restored pt perf and uses the better rr model by default now

[analog cave]

So is new drivers borked

Are*

Still

?

[carmine lantern]

Performance hasn’t changed according to the driver Reddit thread

Also e isn’t necessarily the better rr model over d both have benefits and downsides

[haughty seal]

Something is still fucked

with latest drivers

Only like 200-210 watts are being used

Also I know path tracing is heavy but DLSS performance and FG only gets me 60fps on a 4080 Super and 5800X3D

[carmine lantern]

Haven’t seen any evidence yet of there being effects not rendered on older drivers

[haughty seal]

Ok now it became better for me

90+ fps and proper power usage

[analog cave]

Honestly just updating for the game profile

If I get 60 fps so be it

With PT

FG and dlss

[haughty seal]

What GPU?

[analog cave]

4080

[haughty seal]

Ah basically same as mine

[analog cave]

Like I was a conslow pleb for so many years

[sweet estuary]

How did it become better for you?

[analog cave]

I really don’t care at this point

[haughty seal]

It runs fine for me now but might depend on location

[analog cave]

[sweet estuary]

It always depended on the location lol

[haughty seal]

I had a bit of an undervolt, i disabled that

But it was very tiny

[analog cave]

I’m not gonna bar myself playing the game for a month for a possibility of better performance ((60 is fine for a slow game))

[analog cave]

Wdym disabled?

[haughty seal]

It became better after the first cutscene after you have moved in the crowd

[analog cave]

You mean manually?

Like you had one in place via MSI?

[haughty seal]

Just put it Afterburner to defaults

[analog cave]

Ah okay

Was confused

[haughty seal]

But using a 1300mhz memory oc

oh it's not because of that

The very first walking section just had low power usage either way

but now it's normal

[sweet estuary]

Yes that is a big issue

[haughty seal]

I see

[sweet estuary]

See what’s interesting is that even when the power usage drops it shows me having the same boost clocks for some reason

[haughty seal]

Same that's what threw me off

[timid sky]

with 595.71 (rtx 5080) I don't see power and voltage info in MSI afterburner OSD, can someone confirm?

[haughty seal]

I dont have it in my OSD but I see it on the Afterburner program

[chilly gyro]

I’m sure Daniel Owen will do a video comparing the new one to the old one

[sweet estuary]

@fierce wedge so idk if it’s the new drivers or something else but in one of the later Leon sections the film grain is still present it’s not gone and the setting doesn’t do anything

[unkempt seal]

for 4xxx series? damn

[chilly gyro]

On the general screen there’s a tick box to unlock voltage monitoring ect

[gritty pond]

saw it hit 530W for a second as well

[timid sky]

its ok now, after msi restart

[sweet estuary]

ok so i tested it, the game/driver always uses 50-60 watts less than what the max power limit at that point is. It only happens in outside areas
At stock settings it uses 450-460
With my undervolt it uses 360-380

Similar FPS either way

This is in || raccoon city || < - leon area around halfway through the game thats been mentioned in the trailers

[sweet estuary]

that says 503

[gritty pond]

it does

I didn't capture the 530W

[sweet estuary]

go back to 581.42 and you'll see that it hits 560 consistently

[unique snow]

eco drivers

[sweet estuary]

undervolt and it will show the correct undervolted ones as well

AND

the new drivers will take 60-70 off of the undervolt as well

[gritty pond]

the weak must make way for the strong

[thorny grotto]

With the new drivers in getting 595/600watt on a 5090 wtf

[brittle badge]

I like it when I watch gpu draws 600w

[brittle badge]

61c that's not even cold

🤓

[gritty pond]

oh, I don't have this behaviour elsewhere, it's just the opening street

[thorny grotto]

Never see my GPU drawing more than 540watt

[formal grotto]

New driver gives me a lot flicker and even lower gpu usage on 5090 again. Those drivers are bonkers.

[thorny grotto]

Something is wrong with the new drivers, I'm 600watt inside the clinic wtf

[hushed meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/fgc-fighting-games-sajam-rollback-futurama-gif-18030851

[gritty pond]

what's wrong with that? If you aren't comfortably sitting at your framerate cap, then it's going to be pushing itself to its limit

[unique snow]

uncapped framerate?

[formal tapir]

they’re on a 4060

[gritty pond]

lmao

[unique snow]

like if you are uncapped... and not CPU limited your GPU will go max brrrrrr

not unexpected

[thorny grotto]

I was drawing 530/540watt all of a sudden with new drivers I draw 600watt with Vsync On and I have some stutters too

[formal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-sgt-doakes-dexter-explosion-dies-gif-17985904020528170437

[thorny grotto]

No

[lusty jetty]

600w and 61 degrees on a 4060 is surprisingly cold lol

[thorny grotto]

It's a 5090

[sweet estuary]

The readings are wrong

[unique snow]

no 4060 uses 600w

come on now

yeah 5090 makes sense

[sweet estuary]

Oh

[lusty jetty]

Ah

[sweet estuary]

@thorny grotto go back to the starting street

And see how many watts you pull

[thorny grotto]

Just read

I'm doing some benchmark to understand better

[unkempt seal]

how much was it hitting before. I don't see anytrhing wrong with that since it's rated for it?

[thorny grotto]

Ok, apparently restarting seems to have fixed power drawing and stutters

[pearl willow]

They released new drivers today?

[lusty jetty]

They fixed the fan issue yes

4000 series card are still bugged

[raw knoll]

this funny how even on my 5080 i saw peformance with pt increase by 15% with the older driver

[near basalt]

Just tested new drivers on a 4090 and ... I'm back to 581.42. Still broken, terrible performance.

[lusty jetty]

581 is worse than 576 for me

[pearl willow]

And the rest is still the same with the new drivers, boiling and stuff etc? I dont have the game so can't test, thats why the questions

[unkempt seal]

really? : o

[serene shore]

Frame-gen stutters still there in the latest driver

Nvidia frame-gen that is w/ a 5080

[timid sky]

yeap, but there is still voltage cap

[unkempt seal]

lol

[carmine lantern]

Yep just loaded in now with 5070 ti the stutters are still there

[serene shore]

A good section to check is before the first switch to leon. During the grace cutscene in the hotel. There are almost specific spots that the stutters always happen

[small igloo]

btw I tried using optiscaler for DLSS and DLSS FG

[unkempt seal]

is it just FG related? This might seem stupid but have you tried replacing FG dll with 3.8? Because I've had games where 3.10+ were problematic and 3.8 was perfect. FG only of course

[small igloo]

and I had 0 stutters

[carmine lantern]

I haven’t tried that but that could work

[small igloo]

as soon as I removed optiscaler stutters were there again

[carmine lantern]

Yeah its fg related not even reflex since there’s no stutter with just in game reflex and no fg

[unkempt seal]

wtf : o

[small igloo]

give it a try

[serene shore]

Did you keep nvidia fg or did you do nvidia fg -> fsr3 fg ?

[small igloo]

I kept nvidia fg, didn't use the optiscaler fg option

just used DLSS in optiscaler menu and for some reason no stuttering

[carmine lantern]

Are u also using renodx and reframework?

[small igloo]

yea

[serene shore]

Latest nightly or stable opti ?

[kind fossil]

The final puzzle has been solved apparently

[carmine lantern]

Datamined

[kind fossil]

Apparently, they did certain things to confuse the code of the game to make it think that they did the previous steps to spawn the doll

[small igloo]

don't know if this helps haha

[fierce wedge]

Are you still in that section?

I would need a shader dump sent to me

[karmic jasper]

lmao

[sweet estuary]

Yeah

Though it might just be PT noise perhaps?

But yeah how do I send a shader dump

[kind fossil]

https://www.techpowerup.com/346944/nvidia-releases-geforce-595-71-whql-game-ready-drivers

new driver dropped

[modest wharf]

Apparently still has power draw issues, so you're better off with the older drivers.

https://preview.redd.it/game-ready-driver-595-71-faq-discussion-v0-eobk59v8rnmg1.png?width=2410&format=png&auto=webp&s=8fc999baa104ab371234c88ec57008a415a4201f

[kind fossil]

rip

[fierce wedge]

Download this reshade addon and open the game with it

https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-devkit.addon64

Then open the devkit window and click auto dump on the top bar. From there you can just load into your save where the grain stuff is and it’ll dump shaders as you play. Just walk around for a couple seconds in game. Maybe also toggle chromatic aberration, DoF, and other post processing settings on and off in case those spawn new shaders.

It’ll dump the shaders into the renodx-dev/dump folder. It’ll be a bunch of .cso files. I’ll need those files

[sweet estuary]

Okok

[heady arch]

there is no bug to fix in this game, the old driver is skipping volumetric effects.

this is the reason we see increased perf with older drivers they say

[sweet estuary]

Huh?

Which volumetric effects

And if that is the case then why is the power usage lower

[chilly gyro]

Ite ddu and install new driver and pt is not fixed on 4000 series

[signal sky]

It’s definetly not. At least not the 581.94 driver in using

They are just borked the newer ones. It’s a mess

[kind fossil]

how's that one?

I'm about to format my drive and reinstall windows

[signal sky]

It’s the one I always use

Perfect for me never gave me any issues

Not that I noticed at least

[sweet estuary]

Do 581.94 also fuck with the fps/wattage? apparently everything after 581.42 has that issue

[signal sky]

Not for me but I’m on 4080

[heady arch]

I've tried the ''preserve shadows'' setting and didn't like it much. ''Match SDR'' all the way

Maybe it's for trash panels with crushed blacks

[small igloo]

i installed the newest drivers today and I'm getting weird random black artifacts

[kind fossil]

im gonna reinstall windows and try 576.88 from that pic above

[small igloo]

randomly popping up and then gone again

[heady arch]

in which games ?

[small igloo]

dude, reinstalling windows is the last resort for me hahah

[kind fossil]

nah im doing it anyway not because of drivers

i have a habit of doing it every few months

i back all my games up on storage drive etc

i am just OCD with it

[brittle badge]

this is prob a bug rather than anything

cause no fking way it's this convoluted on purpose

[bleak cliff]

i took a few screenshots and the image quality was the same with old and new drivers, only the fps changed...

and the power consumption

[kind fossil]

what driver gave you best fps?

[formal grotto]

Something very weird is going on when you are starting the game and turn off framegen and nvidia reflex and back on or also changing the dlss quality. The FPS, GPU load and input lag change all over the place. Its very bugged and not consistent, neither with 591 and 595. Try to toggle those settings around they will always give a different result. I think it has something to do with the borked nvidia reflex and that the game is also always falling back to performance quality after you restart it.

[bleak cliff]

581.42 iirc

similar to 576.XX (dont remember the last numbers)

[kind fossil]

Don't i need 591.74 for dlss 4.5 ?

Or can I still force latest presets in nvidia profile inspector?

[bleak cliff]

with RR you dont have dlss 4.5 and PT forces RR

[kind fossil]

Yeah I know but I mean in general

For other games

[bleak cliff]

i updated bc ive already finished the game

and wont play it again

but you can manually swap the dll or use dlss swapper

for dlss 4.5

[kind fossil]

Ah yeah of course

[bleak cliff]

i usually only play a game at a time so I downgraded the drivers

[sweet estuary]

@fierce wedge

[coarse kettle]

When I used 576.88 my computer sounded like a airplane 😂 😅

[modest wharf]

Yeah, think I noticed the same But at least you know it's working hard.

[fierce wedge]

not seeing any new grain shaders but seeing some new noise shaders so it could be that

i'll add them

[kind fossil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ritsbd/game_ready_driver_59571_faqdiscussion/

[fierce wedge]

ok turns out none of those noise shaders actually use the noise parameter

[kind fossil]

great lol

[oak maple]

I'll just ignore it for now I guess lol

guess I should check if I have the problem

though I'm almost done with my first playthrough now

[analog cave]

Yeah it affects other games as well

With base cap

Not even OC

[coarse kettle]

The noise from PT?

[kind fossil]

ffs nvidia sort your shit out

they be trolling at this point surely

[fierce wedge]

noise as in the post processing effect

[coarse kettle]

How are our friends from AMD? Better I suppose

[fierce wedge]

there is VAR_FilmDamage_Opacity which I didn't add a slider for

only thing I did was add a slider for VAR_FilmGrain_Opacity

[oak maple]

power draw seems broadly in line on my 5070 TI (250-290W)

[analog cave]

I mean I just noticed in my 4080 much lower performance in other games

More stutters as well

For requiem I’ll just do NVPI I really do not need to use the app to set preset E CNN

Dlss*

[oak maple]

tbh I'm just trying to not think too hard about getting the most out of this game. It's a game I want to just play and not min max the experience of

[analog cave]

Exactly

[oak maple]

super happy musa cares about making the mod for this one lol

[analog cave]

Going back to the driver I had and just dealing with whatever comes

[proven pilot]

Hello, with an Alienware AW3425DW monitor, do you recommend using the HDR True Black 400 mode or Peak 1000 with renodx?

[oak maple]

it's preference

if you don't mind the ABL, do peak 1000

[proven pilot]

Ok, I'll try

[heady arch]

TB400 less ABL, peak 1000 better highlights and more aggressive ABL

[drowsy summit]

for dark game like resident evil requiem you can try peak 1000

[oak maple]

you get the most accurate image with true black 400 however

[proven pilot]

I'm beginer with oled and hdr, what is abl ?

[oak maple]

I just use hdr 1000 and suffer with ABL

[oak maple]

brightness scaling to "fit" the wider range of luminance into the panels capabilities

so as a white window increases, you'll notice the panel dim

[proven pilot]

Oh ok I see

[oak maple]

basically the hdr 1000 mode can do ~1000 nits on 2% of the screen, but once you get to 10% of the screen it can only do like ~450-500

so there's aggressive dimming to make that dynamic range work

[proven pilot]

Yes ok I understand, I know this but I didn't know it called abl. Thanks

[drowsy summit]

abl mean auto brightness limiter

it dim the screen when it get to bright to avoid burn in

[proven pilot]

For now I run with peak 1000 and renodx paramètres by default

[distant marlin]

what tool is this?

[mental glen]

man the RR is ass holy shit

can we disable that with re framework or sumn? I wanna see what M looks like

[sweet estuary]

Could that fuck things up?

[desert nebula]

Doing a playthrough in black and white and now I'm seeing the banding that people were talking about

[fierce wedge]

I'm adding a slider for it rn

[sweet estuary]

Oic

[fierce wedge]

finally

fg framepacing is fixed

game actually feels good now

[karmic jasper]

?

[knotty apex]

yeah what

[sweet estuary]

dont think I ever had issues with frame pacing

[fierce wedge]

it was shit for me

well now reflex is borked I think

i'm going above 240 fps

[knotty apex]

vsync

[fierce wedge]

can't turn on vsync

oh through driver

[knotty apex]

yeah

[fierce wedge]

or I could just go up to dlss balanced

[knotty apex]

i dont know why they still tell devs to force it off

[fierce wedge]

should I turn on boost wth reflex

[analog cave]

Did you update driver?

[karmic jasper]

boost just forces max 3d gpu clocks no?

[analog cave]

Yeah but it results in slightly less latency than normal reflex

[knotty apex]

it has some additional behavior that reduces latency (and max framerate) when cpu bound

[fierce wedge]

ya I'm on latest

for best framepacing should I have boost off then

[quasi lodge]

I can't break my brain from the need to do this now

[dense sapphire]

gonna ask here too, which one looks better to you?

[sweet estuary]

right

[karmic jasper]

thumbnail sizes, left

[oak maple]

helps that without tweaking this is probably the single best looking video game

[heady arch]

left

[dense sapphire]

I think left, but right is labeled "high"

and left is labeled low

[versed magnet]

I don't like the bloomy, glowy fringing on the left one.

[knotty apex]

what setting is that, subsurface scattering?

[fierce wedge]

right

[dense sapphire]

look at the thumb outline, looks unnatural on the right, no?

[sweet estuary]

nah the noise is toooooo much

[fierce wedge]

creases between fingers look like they're glowing on the left

[quasi lodge]

I agree i was saying in a few threads now, not sure i've ever seen better enviroment and character models, I do think the path tracing is perhaps better in Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk but

[karmic jasper]

ya full size it looks wrong because the ss is too strong

[sweet estuary]

there is a prism effect

on the left

[oak maple]

right image looks substantially better to me

left looks broken to me

[small igloo]

what are you comparing here exactly

I mean what settings

[versed magnet]

Yeah, the sss is too strong and saturated on the left one I feel.

[small igloo]

because I wanna do the right one lmao

[karmic jasper]

sub surface scattering it looks like

[versed magnet]

Subsurface Scattering on skin.

[heady arch]

its PT vs RT, no?

[dense sapphire]

how about here

[dense sapphire]

subsurface scattering

[small igloo]

is it SSS high vs low or what exactly

[karmic jasper]

looks like sss on and off

and the on is just super strong

[small igloo]

right image looks more stable basically

[dense sapphire]

sss low vs high

[karmic jasper]

because real sss is very demanding

[oak maple]

oh, I say without tweaking but of course I'm using reno and going with the srgb with lut scaling path (looks way better to me)

[sweet estuary]

right

[heady arch]

right iz more detailed here

[versed magnet]

RIght one looks more detailed, but perhaps a bit to grainy.
Using any sharpening?

[fierce wedge]

aw3423dwf-let

[dense sapphire]

her hand looks too rough on the right

[fierce wedge]

vs gigachad g80sd

[sweet estuary]

is srgb with lut scaling just default settings?

[oak maple]

playing on my s90d

[fierce wedge]

no its the preserve shadow detail option

[karmic jasper]

u lot need to use moisturiser

[oak maple]

these days I'm pretty much never actually playing something on my monitor. I sit here to mod games and work

when I'm done with that I simply don't want to be in my desk chair anymore

[karmic jasper]

hey musa where is the latest verison of the mod

i know there are beta files here

but hard to find

[fierce wedge]

TEST BUILD

features:

• added rgba16 rendering option (requires restart to apply)
• added film damage strength slider
• added higher quality lut sampling (may improve bit depth slightly)

[sweet estuary]

Does this have the noise slider?

[karmic jasper]

defaults the way to go?

[dense sapphire]

does the film damage look different than the film grain?

[fierce wedge]

tough to say.

• If you go with match SDR it will match how SDR looks on a 2.2 gamma display which appears pretty crushed in certain areas, but that may be their intention
• if you go with defaults, it basically just raises shadows a little compared to sdr 2.2
• if you go with preserve shadow detail its like halfway between srgb and 2.2 since its srgb but with the black floor of the LUTs scaled down

i'd say try defaults first

if its too crushed then do preserve shadow detail

[karmic jasper]

ok thanks boss ur the best

[fierce wedge]

it may be the right effect, you'll have to test and see if it fixes

[fierce wedge]

haven't tested film damage but its another parameter I added controls for

[desert nebula]

Is it a vanilla thing or new

[fierce wedge]

its in vanilla

I have the slider default to 0 currently

figured just using shortfuse's film grain is good

film damage may just be those streaks that appear on film grain. I didn't see any in my time playing so maybe they're just in later sections or in cutscenes

[desert nebula]

I'll try it out and see how it looks. Still messing with the preset but I'm trying to make it look like an old black and white movie. I already have the custom grain cranked up to 100

[sweet estuary]

@fierce wedge filmdamage doesn't solve it

dont think it is that

[fierce wedge]

alright i'll need you to take a pic of the shaders list in the devkit

[analog cave]

Nice

[analog cave]

[fierce wedge]

scroll down to the where the blue numbers on the right ened

maximize the window so I can see as much of the shader list as possible

[small igloo]

it's not creator's intent but this feels pretty natural to me

"match sdr" preset

[heady arch]

looks washed out

the non match sdr

[sweet estuary]

@fierce wedge

does this help

[small igloo]

hm doesn't to me but preference I guess

[fierce wedge]

scroll up higher. what I need are the ones with the blue numbers

[heady arch]

what display

[small igloo]

LG C5

42 inch

[sweet estuary]

Oic

[fierce wedge]

also make sure you remove the devkit when you're done. it has some performance cost, idk how much though

[sweet estuary]

There’s like a lot of the ones with blue numbers, which ones

[fierce wedge]

the bottom of the list. that's where post processing usually is

just maximize the window

[sweet estuary]

Oic

[fierce wedge]

so I can get the last 20 or so

[sweet estuary]

@fierce wedge

[fierce wedge]

if you click the draw button next to the shader that should disable most of the post processing

does doing that result in the grain disabling?

it'll also drastically change the exposure but grain is what we're looking for

[unkempt seal]

I'm seeing this through an SDR monitor atm but I like the less blue'ish tones here

I was looking at a video comparing RR and PT. How much detail are we leaving on the table with these current RR presets :S like the wrinkles in his face are non existent. Almost like a snapchat "make me younger" filter

[heady arch]

doesnt look like that at all, at least in cutscenes

[sweet estuary]

hmm doesn't look like it

seems like some noise is still there

[heady arch]

I can clearly see a Leon at his late 40s

[sweet estuary]

maybe its just PT noise

[heady arch]

He is 49 here

[fierce wedge]

ya I had ai slop search through every shader in that list for "grain" or "noise" and the only things that showed up are shaders I already caught

anyway I'm gonna make film damage default to 100 in the next build

[sweet estuary]

is that the default?

[fierce wedge]

in the build I just posted I had it set to 0 which is off cause I thought that may be what you were seeing

[sweet estuary]

Yeah fair

Man it’s a good looking game but the noise is just insane

I feel like RR just isn’t working properly because RR is supposed to fix this noise

[hushed meteor]

Stutters are gone with FG? I was just running DLSS Performance because FG would cause stutters here and there. FG is great when it works right though but the stutters suck balls.

[fierce wedge]

maybe not entirely gone but felt noticeably smoother in the 2 minutes that I tested

[scenic narwhal]

what about new drivers from nvidia?

[copper raven]

Compared to other path traced titles it seems on par

It never fixes it completely

But other games have base denoiser so you compare them and see how much rr improves it

Also I doubt M and L can do better if we turn off RR

DD2s reframework forced path tracing doesnt get resolved by transformer 2

There is just too much noise compared to regular RT

[mental glen]

i really hate the noise and smear that RR brings

[restive quarry]

Ray reconslop

[mental glen]

slop reconstruction

[analog cave]

Ray Regeneration chads

[mental glen]

can amd even run PT

[restive quarry]

Not in this game

[copper raven]

they cant in requiem

[analog cave]

Yeah

at 720p

5 fps

[mental glen]

https://tenor.com/view/bruhlmaojk-dexter-dexter-edit-gif-1861923237019944738

[fierce wedge]

can amd gpus handle pt now

[restive quarry]

They don't have a non-vendor denoiser for PT and didn't implement ray regen