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[vivid iris]

the reason the old system got so bright was because people found areas that were simply brighter than anywhere we tested

[stray grove]

@leaden isle dont think so

[stone comet]

bro this one spot in the sanctum spawns spikes behind you in a closed area and youre legit soft locked and cant leave lmao?

[leaden isle]

h

[vale scarab]

I need to change settings or it s ok ? oled AW3225QF

[vivid iris]

it'll tell you the build date in the menu

[leaden isle]

ah

seems pretty recent

xD

[late marlin]

so is there a setting in the renodx menu you recommend to change right now? i have an lg c4. i mostly only change the peak nits and thats it

[vivid iris]

adjust game brightness to preference, and maybe don't use the alternate auto exposure from that build or be prepared to disable it if you encounter a situation that gives you trouble

[leaden isle]

dayum

[quartz tendon]

Did you ask me? Ehm yes, all cinematic 🦬 and Max Light due to RR. 😄

[wise flax]

So the new addon has issues or something? I don't feel like reading everything...

[golden scaffold]

Btw are we unable to reveal lantern visions when playing Daniele?

[leaden isle]

woah so u got ray reconstruction on as well? u must have a crazy gpu

[quartz tendon]

Not so... but yeah had luck with a fair priced 5080 ^^

[eternal osprey]

Niceee. What do you have the auto exposure ceiling set to here?

[grim elk]

i sometimes kinda wish i went with 5090, then i check what they cost and apologize to my 5080

[wise flax]

Is it worth upgrading from yesterdays mod to todays?

[leaden isle]

im out here with my laptop 3060

[vale scarab]

For true 400 , have you a good alternative ? 203 is very bright, in a dark room

[low crane]

This was taken with the previous reno build.. Just thought it looked nice 😛

[plain fractal]

Maybe it would work to keep the anchor point near the current value but adding an option to clamp the maximum auto exposure shift/range more. this would probably limit the minimum birghtness that can be achieved in dark areas but it could be safer to look good in more areas

But I dont know a lot about this stuff. Just trying to use what I learned after messing around with the MH Wilds Reno Settings (PTSD Flashback)

[leaden isle]

uhhhh where do i even start xD

currently looks like no difference

[quartz tendon]

Well, it is expensive but not unattainable... save 100 bucks each month und you'll be ready for next gen end this or next year sometime. 🙂

[stray grove]

@leaden isle adjust top slider to your liking that spretty much it

and sharpness to your liking

[eternal osprey]

You not playing with HDR on?

[leaden isle]

u mean flame hue or wot

[leaden isle]

i dont know how do i tell

xD

[upper tulip]

huhh

[eternal osprey]

You've got the reno set to SDR, so just assumed.

[leaden isle]

optiscaler says i got hdr on so im like idk

[lime bridge]

I'd consider turning off Sun-improvements as well. That breaks in certain scenes and will look terrible at some point.

[restive roost]

try disabling and enbling hdr in game

[viscid wedge]

Is HDR enabled (and calibrated) in WIndows? What about in the game settings?

[leaden isle]

in windows it aint enabled currently

[viscid wedge]

Ok so that answers that lol

[leaden isle]

would u recommend turning it on or not

[true dagger]

if you have a good display, then ofc

[viscid wedge]

If you have a display capable of doing it well and you'd like to enjoy it, of course.

[stray grove]

@leaden isle if your laptop is hdr capable then yes

[leaden isle]

i got a philips 1440p monitor with hdr support hooked up but i have no clue on how to make it look good xD

its always so washed out when turnin hdr on

[vivid iris]

the current value is always changing, there needs to be some concept of max and min to mathmatically alter it in a way that isn't just adjusting exposure in a linear way all the time.

it's possible the dynamic system from before just needs a higher ceiling 🤷

[restive roost]

what monitor is it, what kind? (IPS, VA, OLED)

[viscid wedge]

HDR isn't a "turn it on and you're done" kinda thing

[vivid iris]

what monitor is it?

lcd, oled, miniled?

[leaden isle]

Lcd ips

[stray grove]

bro pusing that laptop 3060 to the brim with a 1440p monitor

[leaden isle]

philips evnia 27m2n5500/00

[restive roost]

id stick to SDR but thats me.

[naive jackal]

hdr 400 edgelit?

[leaden isle]

Idk but i just turned on hdr and now all my screens are gone xD so yehhh might just stick with sdr

[stray grove]

@leaden isle i would stick to your laptop monitor that 3060 gunna struggle running 1440p

[leaden isle]

Will it improve the game on sdr

[naive jackal]

If yes, sdr will always be better

[vivid iris]

yeah that doesn't have meaningful HDR support, you're better off using SDR on it

[leaden isle]

The game runs well with dlss enabler

[vivid iris]

renodx mod also works in SDR

you can try the HDR though, there are some objective benefits to using it, but that panel doesn't have the contrast ratio to make HDR look how it should

what might work well for you is using HDR in this game and setting the game brightness slider higher than most should

[wise flax]

@leaden isle Save money and hit microcenter when you have like $1100-$1200. You can build a respectable PC for around that price at Microcenter with a 7600x3d, 9060XT, and 16gb ram.\

[stray grove]

im on a ips panel and renodx make all the difference

[wise flax]

I didn't get an answer before is the newest reno addon worth upgrading vs yesterdays or is it pretty minor?

[naive jackal]

@stray grove What sort of IPS though, there's regualr IPS lcd and there's IPS mini led with fald

[wise flax]

I had seen some people saying the new auto exposure setting has issues

[stray grove]

@wise flax just try it and revert if you dont like

[modest hatch]

Do I have to download reshade again or do I just download this ?

[leaden isle]

I wont be investing in a pc anytime soon thats for sure. Thing is. Game looks soooo much better in 1440p compared to 1080 imo

[stray grove]

@naive jackal prop regular IPS ive got that Benq 1440p 144hz monitor for almost 9 years ahah

still look really good

[wise flax]

Most games look better at higher resolution.

[plain fractal]

Ohh ok, I think I understand the problem now.

[wise flax]

All games unless its some weird old game with scaling issues

[leaden isle]

Interesting, thanks for letting me know

[plain fractal]

And its probably not possible to use some kind of other auto exposure algorithm / function because of the way this game tries to do lighting via exposure etc.

[vivid iris]

I don't fully understand the auto exposure system so it's hard to say what's possible

forge probably has a better idea

[naive jackal]

@stray grove Ah cool, just wondering cos a lot of monitor brands are straight up scamming with the hdr ready branding, i got bamboozled with the original samsung g7, everyone saying hdr was great on it and it turned out to be edgelit with only 8 vertical zones -.-

[wise flax]

@naive jackal Same here brother. It had like 15 zones or some bullshit lol

[stray grove]

@naive jackal ive been wanting to upgrade but honestly this old monitor of mine still look so good im just sticking to it ahah

i paid premium back when i bought it too ahah

[naive jackal]

Yeah lol i paid more for that samsung g7 back then than i did for my current oled

[wise flax]

I think I paid $500 for the G7 when it released and this OLED was about $900. It was 100% worth it though for how much I game. The G7 was a solid monitor, just not for HDR.

[viscid wedge]

y'all don't wanna know what a 34" 3440x1440 100Hz IPS cost in 2016.. nearly $1300

[naive jackal]

Cost me around £670, my MSI OLED cost me £500 and something

[wise flax]

Do you have a 1440p OLED?

[viscid wedge]

its worthless to sell today so it stays on my desk connected to another PC

[naive jackal]

@viscid wedge Damn that's around how much the acer pred falds were going for back when i got the G7

[wise flax]

I need to get around to cleaning up my G7 and selling it for a few hundred. It's shit as a second monitor because of the curve/viewing angles so I use my old Dell 1440p VA.

[viscid wedge]

this (Asus PG348Q) and an Acer model (same panel) were the first "gaming" focused ultrawides in that res. old GSync module and all. Today its.. bleh

[naive jackal]

The curve is wild, when i replaced it with a flat panel it took 3 weeks for it to stop feeling weird to look at

[wise flax]

Yeah the reverse curve was a bitch

[viscid wedge]

My ultrawide is a SUPER minimal curve, like 3800r or something. But still when I got my C2, the top left and right corners felt like they were curving away from me lol

[leaden isle]

okayyy got back to sdr, back to the drawing board. which of these will make night actually look like night. cuz currently i see no difference at all compared to default

[true dagger]

auto exposure limiter

[wise flax]

I legitimately liked the G7's aggressive curve. I just wanted OLED and good HDR.

[leaden isle]

wowww ok now its very dark

[naive jackal]

@leaden isle Remember you have a lantern you can turn on for light and you can loot torches from bandits that give you light and can be used as weapons

[faint bobcat]

Had a look at this, here is the TLDR

• Game has a PrecomputeAmbient shader which contains raymarching through atmosphere data for sun and moon (the two main light sources)

• Lighting selection is binary either sun or moon

• Since at dawn/dusk, the moon or sun are at a position where they dont cast much light or are occluded at the horizon, they terrain doesnt cast shadows

• BRDF and lighting calculations including AO, diffuse, specular ect are all multiplied by nothing pretty much so the whole scene goes flat

• They dont use probes, cubemaps ect for lighting. GI alone is essentially shading at that point.

I might have something for this

maybe a blend?

or force boost

[leaden isle]

very dark tho

[faint bobcat]

might come with its own issue

[stray grove]

@leaden isle thats how it should look

[leaden isle]

nice!

so midnight is actually midnight now

peak

[wise flax]

@leaden isle Adjust the "Auto Exposure Ceiling" setting to brighten or darken it further.

[leaden isle]

any other setitngs yall recommend?

[fresh field]

yes, if youre using the latest reno there is a slider to adjust the exposure but it defaults to 50

higher = brighter

[stray grove]

@leaden isle adjust the color grading to your liking pretty much it and add some sharpness if you want

Turn bloom down maybe

Its all up to your taste ahah experiment with the top sliders

[faint bobcat]

I think blend might work, it will be the third raycast source as mentioned in the post

[leaden isle]

do yall think the sky a bit too gray

[vivid iris]

btw if you can't use ray reconstruction for perf reasons, you should disable the last 4 settings in the rendering setting above VRS

we'll have to do something to clearly communicate this

[leaden isle]

yes, cuz idk whats going on xD

[wise flax]

A little note above the bottom settings that says that would help.

[hollow pollen]

thoughts on brightness for 2000 nit display? 203?

[jade magnet]

Hi, first of all, I dont know how you did this but this looks insane in the game. Literally a whole new level. I have a question though. What is this slider and why it makes totally no difference for me how I set it? And what the heck is with the white rectangle?

[viscid wedge]

there are notes in the pinned instructions

[pale hemlock]

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1469072401450012774/1469072401450012774

[jade magnet]

a, this

[leaden isle]

also should i turn off any of these?

[jade magnet]

thanks

[true dagger]

reno takes over the max nits (brightness) setting, so if you wanna change the brightness, do it in the Reshade RenoDX menu

[rotund raptor]

yes

[true dagger]

you can turn off all except reno

[deft pulsar]

amazing job with the latest version guys, literally the perfect balance

[dawn hollow]

is hue of flame broken in last version of addon?

and slider cannot change it

[median kindle]

did you try it elsewhere? That spot looked like that for me as well. Before i had RenoDX

[dawn hollow]

ah okay, I'll gather more data)

[viscid wedge]

holy crap i'm too stupid for Duo

i better not be forced to win or something to complete this quest

[vivid iris]

I think it requires ray reconstruction to work for now

[dawn hollow]

yeah. all good actually. it just flame in this specific spot have this tint

[dawn hollow]

I'm using rr

[dawn hollow]

everything good with sliders and addon, it was just this cave confusing

[leaden isle]

yay

[jade magnet]

any idea why the caves mainly look like this?

[vivid iris]

no clue

toggle options and see if anything is at fault

[golden scaffold]

How do I feed dogs and cats? They won't take any of my food

[wise flax]

discard it near them

[golden scaffold]

Tried that too

[wise flax]

Maybe you're not trying the right food because that's how it's done.

[jade magnet]

its the RR, but i guess thats a bug. Strong outside light source that enters a super dark place does things like that

[faint bay]

When I try to download the file, I can’t because it says there’s a virus. I’m pretty sure that’s false, but how can I stop Windows antivirus from automatically deleting it?

[deft pulsar]

need to feed food they like, raw meat mostly

[stone comet]

huge cloak find

[median kindle]

hell yeah that's sick

whered you find it?

[deft pulsar]

i really wanna find this set but im not looking for it online haha

[leaden isle]

idk why, but the game autodeleted the renodx addon file from the bin64 folder. very weird

[deft pulsar]

i will never find it all

[stone comet]

chest underneath in one of the tunnels you can find through a small gap

[true dagger]

antivirus

[deft pulsar]

it was your antivirus, add bin64 as an exception

[dapper lake]

try verifying game through steam - 3 times its stopped graphics issues ive had after reno update now

[vivid iris]

we're having issue with AV false flags, you need to add an exception

[leaden isle]

will do

[jade magnet]

verifying game files?

[dapper lake]

aye

[faint bay]

By the way, should I use the test build from the 27th or the one from the 26th?

[jade magnet]

once i light up the lantern everything goes back to normal 😉

[dapper lake]

i think theres something wrong w shader comp as ive been having issues w that until i verify too

[jade magnet]

this is super weird that verifying game files through steam fixes stuff like that. U sure its that ?

[dapper lake]

i mean its worth trying - despite game size it was only like a 2 min verify for me

[leaden isle]

sometimes its hard to tell when graphic issues are the game's fault, dlss' fault, optiscaler, or a renodx issue xD

[dapper lake]

but thats 3 times (only other possible thing that could have fixed things too was deleting shader cache but verify seems to actually work)

i still cant believe they fucked up dlss so much lmao

[leaden isle]

does changing certain settings require a restart of the game btw

[dapper lake]

i think someone mentioned that but i havent noticed personally

[faint bobcat]

Reno menu? no, they are all real time

[dapper lake]

i will say i crash if i turn off frame gen in the same session i turned it on for some reason lmao

[modest hatch]

Do I need to download reshade again for the new mod update ? Or do I just download the mod itself again?

[wise flax]

This game has been extremely stable for me. 0 crashes despite alt tabbing a ton and tinkering with settings constantly.

[restive roost]

just the mod

[deft pulsar]

same tbh

[dapper lake]

frame gen is the only time ive crashed outside of increasing mem clock on gpu one time

[wise flax]

It's honestly surprising considering the scope.

[leaden isle]

btw, any tips on improving fuzzy/unsharp textures?

[wise flax]

Use RCAS sharpening in Reno

[dapper lake]

the no hud no effect mod can disable POM and that can help, RCAS via reno can help, and if you can afford it perf wise 4k perf looks miles better than 1440p qual but a decent perf cost

[stray grove]

@wise flax i had no crash in 30h+ then last night 2 crash same night ahah no error nothing just CTD

[leaden isle]

ah okay xD

[wise flax]

I think you're the guy on the laptop so DLDSR probably isn't an option I'd imagine.

[dapper lake]

oh damn is that straight up not a thing on laptops?

[leaden isle]

which types of blur and camera shakes are these

[wise flax]

I more meant performance overhead

[stray grove]

@leaden isle turn those to 0

[dapper lake]

i thought it not working w dsc was bad enough

ahhh right i get you

yeah id turn blur to 0

[leaden isle]

i do like the cinematic effects doe so what about camera shake

[dapper lake]

camera shake also seems to affect the momentum effect (idk what it would be called) so might not want it completely off thats up to you

i love the idea of how you learn items in shops. I imagine Kliff absolutely badgering every vendor about what a candle or a fish is

[leaden isle]

do yall think i did a decent job?

[leaden isle]

yeah the game has been an absolute blast so far

[dapper lake]

100% just a shame graphically so many tweaks are required and its still not perfect

id kill for hdr and dlaa to just work

[manic valve]

Oh yeah forgot to mention. The new NVME Windows driver cuts down the load times a bit

[dapper lake]

or alternatively for dlss and the parralax mapping not to apply soap to everything

[leaden isle]

id kill for the devs to fix the games graphics xD

[manic valve]

So it helps with those goofy load screens on CD

[dapper lake]

im ngl ive never been caught up w storage side drivers - that part of windows update itself, or do i need to download from my ssd vendors site?

[manic valve]

You have to force registry flags with Vivetool

It's built into Windows but Microsoft made it hard

Well, harder.

It can increase 4k read speed by up to about 60%

[dapper lake]

I actually really like the loading screens they look great but theres no need for the load times and some load scenarios to be the full thing

[stray grove]

@manic valve wait explain this how would i update nvme driver ?

[dapper lake]

how likely am i to fuck something if i try to do it lmao

[manic valve]

It's already there. You just need to force registry flags so it uses that NVME driver

[dapper lake]

ive never even heard of vivetool

[manic valve]

Not very likely.

[wise flax]

Hopefully they release a driver update I avoid registry edits at this point. 10 years ago my registry was full of them, but I haven't seen much of a need lately.

[manic valve]

It is already released.

It is in your Windows 11 build right now.

[wise flax]

Then why would we need to adjust the registry manually vs it being integrated normally?

[manic valve]

All it's doing is changing it so that it uses the same registry bits as Windows Server.

[lament nymph]

I can finally get to rest

[manic valve]

Because Microsoft has for whatever reason only decided to use it for now in Windows Server.

[lament nymph]

goodbye game

[wise flax]

Maybe it's still in testing or something

[manic valve]

Probably not if it's deployed to Windows Server which is enterprise level.

[unborn sail]

you never know when changing some random registry key is gonna bite you in the ass

[dapper lake]

I keep thinking "huh is the autoexposure not making things darker" then turn it off and realise ive forgotten how bright it usually is

[manic valve]

I mean I worked in IT and built gaming PC's for a living at one point. Registry bits being changed is the least of my worries, especially with Windows Restore etc.

[stray grove]

@dapper lake i do the same ahah

[manic valve]

I'm more worried about the 12hvpwr connector exploding and burning me alive.

[wise flax]

Idk I saw an article about it. I'll likely wait until it's fully released.

Yeah my 5090 makes me a bit nervous hitting over 500w spikes even undervolted.

[dapper lake]

i just choose to not look at my power draw. 850w psu with a 9800x3d and ocd 5080 lmao

[manic valve]

I never go over 500w on my 5090 with UV

UV is a lifesaver with this piece of shit

[lament nymph]

I like mine chugging 600w

[leaden isle]

i swear i got texture quality up bro what is this xD

[dapper lake]

suppose if its 12vhpwr youre worried about im a little safer

but youre never really safe

[wise flax]

I didn’t get too aggressive with my undervolt. I think it’s at .950 or something I’d have to check.

[plain fractal]

Reflections + DLSS

[dapper lake]

is that texture pop in or just the shitty dlss

[manic valve]

You can do 0.85v at like 2.5 ghz... pretty insane efficiency if you don't need max performance

[hollow pollen]

Has anyone gotten custom dlss scaling to work? I would love to use DLAA but it has the black bar. Custom scaling black screens. And I cant use DLDSR for some reason on my TV

[leaden isle]

oh geez that really is dlss

[manic valve]

I don't think custom DLSS scaling works yet unfortunately

[dapper lake]

nah, best alternative if you can manage is dldsr imo

Unless youre already tryna run 4k DLAA like a mad man

[leaden isle]

nvm what on earth is going on

[wise flax]

Yeah 4090 had similar crazy undervolting capability. I basically get overclocked performance with less voltage, power draw and lower temps with my current UV.

[leaden isle]

without dlss

[manic valve]

I'm working on UVing my friend's 4090 remotely

But it is annoying not being in there in person lol

[dapper lake]

40 and 50 series seem to undervolt and oc both pretty well tbh

[hollow pollen]

DLAA in this game looks incredible, but I have the black bar glitch with HDR

[wise flax]

Yeah that sounds like a pita. Crash during testing and you have to reconnect.

[true dagger]

i only got DLDSR to work, but custom DLSS scaling doesnt, i think forge says something along the lines that it's hard coded in some way, so thats why custom dlss % dont work right now

[manic valve]

It usually just soft crashes luckily

[manic valve]

I 100% believe that, that is a proprietary engine and they obviously do some jank shit with their rendering pipeline lol

[dapper lake]

turn it up to dlaa just for the screen

unless you meant that my no dlss

[hollow pollen]

Gotcha. I can't use DLDSR on this tv for some reason, and I refuse to go back to 400 nits on my monitor for this game lol

[stray grove]

@leaden isle dont bother zooming on things ur never gonna be able to unsee those and wont enjoi the game 😂

[restive roost]

probably DSC

[leaden isle]

dlaa completely bugs everythin

[lavish lance]

Default RenoDX settings (except setting max luminance 820) hdr is kind of dim on my LG C3. First time I had to disable HGIG. Running around in town and kind of squinting to see properly otherwise. Anyone with a similar TV want to share their settings?

[true dagger]

My DLDSR only worked with 2.25x, 1.78x doesnt show up ingame

[wise flax]

Undervolting is definitely the way to go on the higher end Nvidia cards. You can get similar performance as an overclock or massively reduced power draw with a small performance loss.

[hollow pollen]

I cant even enable DSR in NVCP

DSC messing upi think yall are right. Oh well

[wise flax]

@true dagger you can always set your desktop resolution to the 1.78x DLDSR.

[true dagger]

you cant enable it globally? it doesnt work for specific games, only globally

[stray grove]

@wise flax so true i undervolted my 5070ti and pushed the clock to 2950mhz-3000mhz range and get much lower temp then Factory setting and faster clock

[viscid wedge]

C2, 800 peak, 203 game brightness. 100% pixel brightness + HGiG.

[hollow pollen]

I can enable globallybut it doesn't show in game as an option

[dapper lake]

ive got the same, and 2.25 didnt work until i enabled the lowest normal dsr setting too (which doesnt show up lol)

[manic valve]

I'm on a C5 and G4 but I would try turning HGIG off

[wise flax]

@hollow pollen double check that. Mine works now on my 4k 240hz oled with dp1.4. I think Nvidia fixed the DSC/DLDSR issue.

[manic valve]

And try the regular tone mapping

If you have that option

[true dagger]

yes thats true but im probably gonna stay off of DLDSR for now, while it looks amazing at DLSS Perf 5160x2160, the framerate is kinda bad, its like 70-85fps depending on area

[eager epoch]

Same

[true dagger]

and on 3440x1440 dlss quality, while it looks worse, 110 fps feels way better

[dapper lake]

DSC is a bitch im so glad i got my monitor after they released an update to disable it

[viscid wedge]

I have DLDSR 1.78x enabled but it does not show up in game. Didn't bother troubleshooting it.

[storm echo]

do a modest undervolt. dont push stupid shit. it doesnt help you. get stable and then go down a bit. most hardware now responds better latency wise to a little bit of what is considered "over volt" or whatever the fuck gen z is calling it.

[hollow pollen]

I had 2.25 and 1.78 enabled but in game it doesnt show for me either

[wise flax]

@true dagger 1.78x would likely have a significantly smaller performance hit vs 2.25x.

[true dagger]

yes correct, but its also annoying swapping desktop res everytime i start the game

[low crane]

Some light sources dissapear with auto expusure limiter:

[lavish lance]

Thanks for sharing but I have the same settings and it is still dim. Hmmm. Maybe something wonky on the PC end then.

[viscid wedge]

thats a deal breaker for me. I don't want to "setup" my PC on every game start

[eager epoch]

Im getting 170-200 FPS with 110-150FPS on the 1% lows all maxed out with DLAA on a 1440p mon

[wise flax]

Fair, there are apps/scripts that can do it for you like autoactions, but it’s kinda jank.

[true dagger]

what settings, also i assume with FG or MFG?

[stray grove]

@eager epoch 5090?

[eager epoch]

FG3

[dapper lake]

bros got a 7090

ah okay

[stray grove]

@dapper lake must be

oh FGx3 i see

[true dagger]

yea so like 50-65 fps base

[maiden mulch]

DLAA+ HDR still not working?

[eager epoch]

Astral 5090 OC’d to 3150-3200

[lavish lance]

Yeah that's my fix for now.

[wise flax]

@maiden mulch Nope

[manic valve]

This is nice

[stray grove]

@eager epoch cost more then my truck😂

[eager epoch]

It works but with black bars

[manic valve]

Don't even compare it to cars, PC gaming is dirt cheap in comparison 😇

[stray grove]

@manic valve i have a piece of shit truck ok

ahah

[steel wolf]

I wonder if the compression is more noticeable since you are doing vision pro? My client cant do 444 sadly. Its also a 77 inch tv so maybe it hides the compression a bit better since im not super close to the screen

[eager epoch]

But im still waiting for devs to fix DLSS, latency is high with DLAA

[manic valve]

Better a piece of shit truck than a brand new one that only crawls the mall

[eager epoch]

True that

[wise flax]

I wonder if 1440p DLAA looks better than 4K DLSS Quality in this game. With how shit DLSS is in this game I wouldn’t be surprised if it does.

[low crane]

@faint bobcat @crude marsh

[dapper lake]

is that the usual scaling? im sitting at 150fps same settings with a 5080. I thought the scaling was usually more dramatic

[true dagger]

i get like 100-120 fps with 2x FG, all max settings with RR, 1440p Ultrawide tho, thats why going to DLDSR is kinda hard it feels bad

[ruby tusk]

That DLAA + HDR Black Bar thing seems to mainly affect 50 series

[stray grove]

@manic valve its kinda crawling right now need some love and lot of work done 😂

[manic valve]

Change the o2 sensors, spark plugs, and MAF sensor if it has one.

Thank me later

[low crane]

@vivid iris

[eager epoch]

Depends on the scene, I’ll check again exactly how much

[ruby tusk]

I get the same on 4090

[stray grove]

@manic valve engine is fine 510 000km on it ahah need the whole front end rebuild pretty much

[lavish lance]

It is insane the amount of blur using upscaling adds. I'm on a 4080 and have to use DLAA for that reason, but that means I can't use ray reconstruction which kind of sucks

[dapper lake]

yeah some 40 series reporting but more frequent on 50

[hollow pollen]

Cutting edge makes you bleed

[quasi flicker]

sucks so bad, i hate it

[ruby tusk]

yeah it doesn't happen for me

[hollow pollen]

I get the bars on my 5090

[ruby tusk]

no bars on 4090

[dapper lake]

Im at night in pailunes main city atm for some kind of reference

[true dagger]

i think its a 50 series only bug, if i try HDR+DLAA, it works just fine on my 4090

[eager epoch]

DLAA + RR fix alot of problems, game looks best that way but latency is much higher

[wise flax]

I could occasionally get the bars to go away for a few minutes, but they always came back (5090).

[dapper lake]

i wonder if the old driver that people were using for re9 has the black bars?

[quasi flicker]

my workaround is DLDSR, then set to quality

[jade magnet]

@eager epoch actually Quality looks better than dlaa

[hollow pollen]

About to try this. Just disabled DLDSR and reenabled. the scaling didnt show up in game first

[dapper lake]

yeah they went away for like 40minutes at one point then when i paused to tab out and say i found a fix they were back

[wise flax]

Alt tabbing is one of the things that seems to trigger the black bars

[true dagger]

kinda hard to play without RR tho

[vivid iris]

do they come back as you increase the slider?

[low crane]

No.

[vivid iris]

it's a very simple change, this would have to be lights being turned on/off based on exposure amount for some reason...

[eager epoch]

Quality on 1440p looks too blurry and in motion its so blurry I cant see shit in the distance trees looks like a salad

[quasi flicker]

i dont pay attention to extra lights with RR, and i really hate how blury RR preset is

[vivid iris]

try ctrl clicking the field and typing in larger numbers than the field normally allows

[dapper lake]

im ngl i found that other than going to dldsr perf 1440p balance for some reason was at least less blurry on foliage

[jade magnet]

BTW do you guys have a fix for flickering shadows that are more than 10 meters away? It happens only with RR

[low crane]

Jup. They start coming back at 300

[vivid iris]

lmao, well then

I don't think we can do anything about it

[quasi flicker]

fyi VRR might stop working with DLDSR

[hollow pollen]

2.25x shows up but not 1.78, probably too much of a performance hit

[leaden isle]

is 4:30am supposed to be daylight in this game

[quasi flicker]

?

[dapper lake]

that seems to be a common thing

[low crane]

I kinda like 300. lol thanks for the tip

[eager epoch]

FPS is not the problem here, its the responsiveness, if DLSS Q gave me sub 30ms system latency DLAA jumps to 44-49

[old condor]

Hey guys, where can i find the addon?

[eager epoch]

For me only sub 30 is optinal

[dapper lake]

In the pins up top of the chat window

[old condor]

Oh thx

[eager epoch]

They have hardcoded 4K somewhere so this odd 1.78 res is not supported, also any attempt to scale DLSS ratio is ignored

I’ve tried all

[quasi flicker]

im looking at the DLSS debug its telling me 1.78 res

[eager epoch]

Kindly do enlighten me how you could achieve that

[leaden isle]

hey, why does the game not look any different in daylight?

compared to having renodx turned off

[quasi flicker]

idk if you can see the debug

[true dagger]

i assume your standard monitor is 1440p?

[quasi flicker]

its 4k

[eager epoch]

This is 2.25x of 4K not 1.78

[hollow pollen]

reporting back - 2.25x with dlss performance might be the play

[low crane]

Im no expert, but maybe its tied to draw distance? They started to dissapear again they higher i climbed up.

[quasi flicker]

i have access to 1.78

[true dagger]

3240 / 2.25 = 1440

[quasi flicker]

already posted image

[true dagger]

and just because it shows in Nvidia Control panel doesnt mean the game is accessing it. Ingame you have the 2.25x selected @quasi flicker

[vivid iris]

SDR mode still uses the SDR tone mapper. The autoexposure adjustment only affects dark scenes.

[quasi flicker]

my monitor is 4k
i enabled both 1.78 and 2.25

[vivid iris]

The black crush fix option should help you though

[true dagger]

oh okay thats interesting then, mine doesnt show 1.78x ingame, seems it maybe depends on what resolution its scaling from

my bad

[vivid iris]

You can tune contrast and sat and whatnot to preference

[quasi flicker]

hdr screenshot is fucked tho my bad

[leaden isle]

what the hell how does ur game look so crazy

everything cinematic i suppose

[quasi flicker]

OH SHIT vrr is working with 1.78 but doesnt on 2.25

[stray grove]

holy exposure

[true dagger]

take a screenshot with reshade instead, it captures hdr

[eager epoch]

For me too, I’ll check it again but DLSS ratio it wont change, never saw even one person who somehow achieved it

[leaden isle]

im seeing all these insane shots of the game and thinkin "what am i doin wrong"

xD

[true dagger]

this game is just a mess man

[strong palm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-eyes-1

[mortal wolf]

finally booted the game, that intro is blownout to white af with acesv2

[true dagger]

with a 3060 its rly impossible to mach out the game

[mortal wolf]

you would never know it was blue

[stray grove]

@leaden isle you need to adjust the color grading slider to make the shadow pop more and such

[leaden isle]

also which dlss do yall recommend?

[eager epoch]

But I feel that game is worth fighting for

[stray grove]

@leaden isle i would do dlss balanced for you on that laptop

[true dagger]

yea but i feel like this is what the devs should fix, they get paid for it

[leaden isle]

which one

4.0 or 4.5 or 4.5l

[stray grove]

stick to 4.0 preset K if you dont use RR better perf

[leaden isle]

then again, do i needa aim for high, ultra or lower

[leaden isle]

rayreconstruction is a guaranteed 3fps for me

lmao

[stray grove]

yea i figured

[hollow pollen]

2.25x performance

[stray grove]

@hollow pollen look pretty crips to me 👌

[viscid wedge]

my dude still looks like a hobo with that stupid baby blue armor i bought in the Hernand. And you can't dye the blue part..

[quasi flicker]

dldsr kinda sucks ngl

[leaden isle]

which ones would yall tone down/turn up in my case

[quasi flicker]

im seeing some extra sharpening

[mossy gust]

you can dye the blue part

[stray grove]

@leaden isle it depends of the fps your aiming for

[leaden isle]

my vram doing bits

[hollow pollen]

could be rcas

[eager epoch]

Yes I think all this dlss and RR drama is somewhere on the higher layers of production, I might be wrong but I thing that studio dont have much prior experience with nvidia dlss tech and etc.. This is their engine, this is not UE5 slop which can’t be fixed from the core. I think visuals will be fixed over a short time, this is not stalker and CP2077 situation

[viscid wedge]

i went through each section and none of them changed it, i dunno

[mossy gust]

sorry, i thought you were talking about a picture that was posted

[quasi flicker]

its set to vanilla and at 0

[ruby tusk]

Some of yall just going to have to accept that this game looks like a console game and no matter what you do, even if you have a 4090/5090, it's just going to look the way it is

just enjoy the game

[plain fractal]

Anyone else getting bad frametimes / stutters when using DLSDR ?

[leaden isle]

what is dlsdr

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk spot on

[quasi flicker]

they just need to fix DLAA + HDR and i'll be happy

[vivid iris]

I knew the mod had to happen the moment I looked at those flames

[ruby tusk]

Some stuff def needs fixing but DLDSR, Output Scaling, Mip Maps, etc etc ain't gonna do it

[mortal wolf]

i mean the spinning thingie

where you're looking at a white center

[vivid iris]

Like the loading in screen?

[mortal wolf]

or is that just the loading screen

[strong palm]

I'm sure you get this alot, but damn you're good at this.

[mortal wolf]

idk, i guess loading screen

[faint bobcat]

the banding though

[viscid wedge]

Yep, i'm just playing at 4K + RR + Performance on 4090 and enjoying the game. If performance improves through patches, neat, but i'm not going to try conjure up some magical fix when I could be just playing.

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk yep i stopped using the mipmap tweak i can't even tell the diff when i play

[vivid iris]

That shit flash bang you every time, it’s untonemapped 10k nits

[ruby tusk]

yeah it gets to a point where half these tweaks you'll only notice if you play the game at 200% Zoom

[dense raft]

in my case changing windows res and hz helped

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk exactly not worth it i still toggle on\off the parallax and those clutter ahah

[eager epoch]

2nd that, the moment they’ll finish taking care of all console players (majority) if put some attention to DLSS / Nvidia can be fixed pretty fast

[vivid iris]

It’s horribly shortsighted lol.

[upbeat magnet]

It me

[true dagger]

idk for me i see the lights at default value 50 just fine, maybe its for even further ones than this?

[mortal wolf]

shows you they don't care about HDR

[vivid iris]

Yeah

[molten kiln]

I have two monitors, changing the game between them while in fullscreen, makes the 1.78x resolution appears

[stray grove]

im ready to bet they won't fix any of the visual issue its not there main focus so might aswell enjoi the game

[quasi flicker]

lmao you in VR ?

[upbeat magnet]

I’m on Vision Pro

[ruby tusk]

bro is playing Ready Player One

[low crane]

AEL Vanilla/100/200

[true dagger]

i honestly would just like to set my dlss scaling to upscale from 1080p instead of 960p since im on 1440UW

[deft pulsar]

aye quick tip for whos struggling with the reflections on kliff's armors. Change the material to the more reflective/cleaner one. Reflections honestly are handled much better on that material than the standard

[wise flax]

I still think the game looks pretty good even with the issues.

[stray grove]

@wise flax same it does look good in a lot of area and look bad in some ahah

[upbeat magnet]

Trying lmao

[eager epoch]

Wonder if its possible can mimic this behavior without 2nd mon and enable dlss scaling that way lol

[wise flax]

@stray grove I’ve stopped pixel peeping and try not to focus on stuff like pop in and the pixelated shadows.

[eager epoch]

I wish I could do that, I lost that ability

OCD probebly

[stray grove]

@wise flax yep thats all we can do or we will never enjoi the game !!

[stray grove]

@wise flax i still see it i just ignore it ahah

[wise flax]

I still see the issues I just don’t hyper focus on them if it’s not something I can fix. I work mental health so maybe that mindset comes from there…

[eager epoch]

1000000%

[worldly jackal]

I followed someones settings previously up the chat and my game feels fvery uncomfortably dark? shadows and facing away from the sun, and night time I cant see a god damn thing, can anyone suggest what option I should tweak in Reno?

[molten kiln]

But for some reason, G-sync stops working in fullscreen for me, it is only working in borderless

So I am still not using DLDSR

[wise flax]

I’m definitely still OCD when I open a new game and spend hrs adjusting settings checking performance etc before playing though.

[eager epoch]

I have a monster of a PC and OC’d it to the limits of what physicly possible today just to mitigate that OCD, still cant play the game

[dapper lake]

were you doing it just through the in game option? sadly not working for me 🙁

[wise flax]

I’m in the same boat (9850x3d 5090) and my mindset is I’ve done everything I can to make the game look and perform well so don’t stress the remaining issues.

[slow spoke]

hey everyone sorry for the random question but where do i go to install the reno mod ?

[viscid wedge]

read the name of the channel you're in 😉

[eager epoch]

But than I ask myself, maybe a patch is just around the corner and I’ll be spoiled

[wise flax]

I don’t have the ability to mod so I rely on the guys here to do that and hope for the best.

[molten kiln]

Yeah, my monitor is at default 1440p. I use the in game option to change to Second monitor and then back to main. Doing this in fullscreen mode, the 1.78x resolution appears and works

[wise flax]

@eager epoch meh enjoy things in the moment slightly better graphics likely won’t change how you feel about a game’s story or gameplay.

[dapper lake]

dang oh well im SOL then 4k perf it is

[wise flax]

There’s always theoretically something bigger and better around the corner. You can’t let that stop you from enjoying things now.

[ruby tusk]

Like I said, even on the highest end hardware, this game is going to look the way it looks for the most part, best we have are these wizards here in RenoDX Team, everything else is minor or unfixable currently

[viscid wedge]

i'm fine with it. little RCAS goes a long way

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk imagine playing without the renodx fixes 😅

[ruby tusk]

we would all be blind

[stray grove]

We all know who is to blame

CONSOLE 😅

[wise flax]

I’d be playing in SDR for sure.

[slow spoke]

Thank you sir!

[eager epoch]

Thats true… guys I cant mod but I can pay, if some of the major modders here will accept my humble contribution I’ll pay

Just dont lose hope

I know its hard work

[wise flax]

The Reno mods/devs do great work for sure.

Back on the subject of the game. I'm so annoyed by the little loot bags on the mini map. Usually it's some bs like a key, but half the time I can't even find the supposedly valuable item...

[slow spoke]

I assume its normal for the mod to appear as Virus detected lol

[molten kiln]

Totally agree
I am doing 30years old and I only have a good PC for about 5 years (just upgraded this week to 7800x3d to pair with my 5070)
But before that, I played tons of games and had a lot of fun all these years that I would never had if I waited this entire time.

[stray grove]

Fomo is real guys ahah

[ruby tusk]

yeah just set windows av to ignore it and set your game folder in exclusions

[steady orbit]

Reshade setup uncheck all first, second only next and finish, right?
Then move addon file in game, yes?

[wise flax]

Were blowout and filmgrain adjusted with the latest version?

[viscid wedge]

i know blowout was, there is a new default (thats how you can tell)

[wise flax]

Blowout was set to 100, but the reset button puts it at 0. Film Grain was at 10, but now is 50.

Also it now defaults to vanilla filmgrain instead of perceptual?

[viscid wedge]

appears so

[wise flax]

Anyone know the reasoning?

[mortal wolf]

cbuffer __3__35__0__0__AutoWhiteBalanceColorConstantBuffer : register(b45, space35) {
  float4 _autoWhiteBalanceColor : packoffset(c000.x);
  float4 _adaptationTintColor : packoffset(c001.x);
};

this is accessible within tonemapper

[steady orbit]

Is this good for my lg c3 ?

[viscid wedge]

seems fine to start

[stray grove]

@steady orbit why turn off most of the renodx fix though?

[wise flax]

Also is there still a slider for auto exposure? I can't find one, but I thought the pin said there was still a slider.

[stray grove]

@wise flax auto exposure ceiling its called

[steady orbit]

Which one?

[wise flax]

I don't have auto exposure ceiling visible...

[true dagger]

i assume because most of the options are defaulted to off by the mod makers, so new people who get the mod dont know

[viscid wedge]

most of that is defaults

[wise flax]

Anyone know why Auto Exposure Ceiling would be hidden?

[true dagger]

try clicking the "recommended" button

and adjust after that

[viscid wedge]

the new tonemapper is on, thats the big fix

[steady orbit]

Where find recomended button?

[jaunty summit]

Isn't that in game? Like it's written here

[wise flax]

That's a different setting

[true dagger]

blue button in the middle on the left hand side

right under "graphics presets"

[wise flax]

That's the games HDR settings. There is supposed to be an "Auto Exposure Ceiling" setting in Reno to adjust the auto exposure fix brightness level. I don't have that setting for some reason. I'm trying to restart now to see if it appears...

[stray grove]

@viscid wedge oh shit id have to check i though default pretty much had them all on mostly

[dapper lake]

what even is this game, i just set my desktop res to 1.78x dldsr and ITS STILL NOT AN OPTION IN GAME

[jaunty summit]

Did you open on the bottom options maybe it's there?

I'm installing right now the game

[steady orbit]

Which settings are you using with renodx?

[naive jackal]

Just the recommended settings but sharpness at 70

[true dagger]

this weather rly reminds me of rdr2

[wise flax]

@jaunty summit Nah it’s supposed to be directly under the auto exposure toggle. I saw it in someone’s screenshot earlier.

[maiden mulch]

Any of these reshades floating around on Nexus mods worth using? The game just looks ass to me no matter what I do so blurry

[wise flax]

Did you try the RCAS sharpening in Reno?

[jade magnet]

[what are your settings? rain acts really weird in this game and sometimes disappears

[naive jackal]

game settings or reno settings? game settings are everything at cinematic, RR enabled, 1440p dlss quality FGx3

[viscid wedge]

yes, i need it at 4K Performance

[ruby tusk]

At 3440x1440p DLSS Qual, I've been doing about 50 RCAS, above 70 looks too sharp to me

[naive jackal]

The rain works funny though, when i stand still it's very noticeable but when i pan the camera it disappears until the camera stops

[blazing ridge]

I'm reading a Brazilian forum and they suggest running RenoDX with in-game HDR turned off and Windows HDR on. Is this the right way to do it, or should I keep both on?

[true dagger]

keep it on

[wise flax]

@vivid iris Any idea why I wouldn't have the "Auto Exposure Ceiling" setting? It isn't visible in my Reno mod...

[true dagger]

and you have the latest experimental build right?

[wise flax]

Indeed

[low crane]

dark knight

[vivid iris]

No clue

[jaunty summit]

Okay gonna I have the ceiling just installed the mod

[wise flax]

I'm going to try re downloading

[jaunty summit]

Best settings to use?

[dire pilot]

personally, the new autoexposure looks really good

[wise flax]

Weird re downloading fixed it for whatever reason

[jaunty summit]

Other settings ri change keeping auto exposure ceiling to 50 or?

[jaunty summit]

Could you share me you're renoxd settings :)?

[wise flax]

I'm just rocking defaults/recommended with a bit extra saturation (54), moon disk at 8x and bloom lowered to 75.

Oh and Lens Flare at 50

@dire pilot Wayyy better than the previous version or vanilla.

[slow spoke]

Am I missing something here ive placed the file in bin64 added the exclusion but it doesnt appear in reshade lol sorry I feel super lost

[dire pilot]

oh man, I was just sitting there checking stuff and chonkus jumped on my shoulder

[wise flax]

Are you using reshade with addon support?

[slow spoke]

how do I check that I aplogize this is the firs time i am trying this

[jaunty summit]

What about exposure ceiling?

Just at 50?

[jade magnet]

is it possible to keep all the cool stuff and just make clouds and sky more visible? for me its mainly just a white glare

[wise flax]

At night I have it at 80 right now, but that's just preference.

[small jolt]

I dont why but my the game is way too dark at night when auto exposure is on? Is there a fix for this. I tried to search on this topic but cant find a solution yet?

[true dagger]

when youre on reshade website, you need the second one, with full add-on support

[wise flax]

@small jolt One comment above yours I mentioned how to adjust that.

[rose shuttle]

@vivid iris OnInitSwapchain is registered twice

[faint bobcat]

Nukem, bypass their abysmal code obfuscation and anti tamper

ty

we cant increase LODs

or ray amount

or anything

we get cockblocked

[slow spoke]

fresh install and still nothing lol I truly dont know what I am missing

nvrm we got it woohoo!!

[rose shuttle]

@vivid iris when you get a chance

comment out this line https://github.com/OopyDoopy/renodx/blob/590b875772ad1092f030afa481d251d7708ddfcd/src/games/crimsondesert/addon.cpp#L1068
comment out this line https://github.com/OopyDoopy/renodx/blob/590b875772ad1092f030afa481d251d7708ddfcd/src/games/crimsondesert/addon.cpp#L1062

and then run the binary through virustotal. let me know what happens

[dire pilot]

when I first came to this cave, it was awful - latest version, looks so much better

[vivid iris]

I fixed that already, just not in main yet

[cobalt sorrel]

new autoexposure ceiling seem best at 50 or is everyone using something else?

[rose shuttle]

.....

[vivid iris]

We gave this a try yesterday, didn’t work with the rest of the code still existing.

[golden scaffold]

so whats with the pink water particles in this game?

[vivid iris]

Virtustotal still flagged it

[rose shuttle]

I got a clean result

hrm

[faint bobcat]

is this a base game issue?

[golden scaffold]

it seems so?

[subtle nova]

hey guys, new to RenoDX stuff, if i use HDR, should i leave game HDR settings ON with default or should i adjust brightness?

[covert ruin]

i have mine at 25 and i think it makes lights at night really pop while keeping nights looking dark

[golden scaffold]

oh now its green wtf

[faint bobcat]

lean smoke?

I could take a look at the shaders I guess

[faint bobcat]

but the game's RenderDiffuse shaders also randomly break colours

[subtle nova]

these are defaults for me

[faint bobcat]

I think it might be shader corruption

[manic valve]

Found a video showing how Pearl Abyss did their rendering pipeline and HDR settings

[faint bobcat]

redo shader cahce

[viscid wedge]

reminds me of my purple smoke mishap. playing with the flame hue sliders it went back to normal and I couldn't replicate it again

[rose shuttle]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f4144f12aae280baec6149192fd11d93b095590ebfcefd209597cc1b7a6039b9?nocache=1

built from current commit on master

lol

[wise flax]

This game is still lovely even with the graphics issues. Also testing if HDR screenshots are working...

[abstract hawk]

You have blessed hands.

[golden scaffold]

yeah, flame hue options produce... some interesting results 😅

[abstract hawk]

Man

That waterfall.

lol

[golden scaffold]

resetting the sliders and messing with them some more corrected the hues? wtf?

[rose shuttle]

can you ping me when it's pushed then? I'll experiment with it again later

[wise flax]

How do you guys take HDR screenshots with reshade? Do I need to manually set a screenshot save destination and copy it from there? Or does the windows clipping tool that pops up with prt scrn work in HDR?

[pure sundial]

I built my new setup just for star citizen lol, used to play that game with a 5600x now on a 9800x3d, night and day

[wheat elk]

gender reveal party gone wrong

[crude marsh]

just press screenshot button with reshade and its in game folder or whatever path you set it to

[true dagger]

i think it saves them into the game folder

[viscid wedge]

Reshade > Settings tab. Set keybind and save directory. @wise flax

[wise flax]

@crude marsh So I can't copy directly from the windows clipping tool or its not HDR?

[crude marsh]

clipping tool is bad

[viscid wedge]

do not use the snipping tool

[true dagger]

it does support hdr but it works bad

[wise flax]

Gotcha

[pure sundial]

Since there's an option to disable the hero light, would it be possible to also disable that light from golden chests, every time I find one behind a waterfall I get flash banged

[viscid wedge]

I like Creepy's guides, he's a member here. https://www.hdrmods.com/HDR-Screenshot-Guide

[wise flax]

Nice

[young pebble]

Anyone able to unlock this gate at sanctum of temperance?

[dapper lake]

shine your sword on the stone maybe?

[viscid wedge]

no, but there is another locked gate there you can open by lighting a lantern

[young pebble]

Tried, not working

[young pebble]

Noone on internet seems to have solved it

[wise flax]

Btw a neat little trick I found online. If you don't want to waste keys you can hold your lantern as you try to walk through a door if you aren't sure if it is locked. It'll prevent it from auto unlocking and you'll just walk into it.

[golden scaffold]

Wait, you can make your companions follow you??? I just found that out by accident

[vivid iris]

It’s live in my crimson desert branch

[slow spoke]

How do I turn on HDR mode in the Reno tab I dont see compared to other people ?

[vivid iris]

You can see the conversation somewhere in this channel me and shortfuse had trying things, can probably search that initswapchain line

Maybe not, it’s buried somewhere…

[wise flax]

@slow spoke Do you have the latest version? Is HDR turned on in windows and in game?

[viscid wedge]

Is HDR enabled in WIndows and the game?

[slow spoke]

both are on in game and windows and I am using the version that was uploaded yesterday

[rose shuttle]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/00a41ebb2f1565aa2d5f783466799214757305a30c29b447bb440e92a098e48e?nocache=1

????

ok

[lilac urchin]

jesus this highlights are popping now like crazy!!!!

Jon what did you do!!!??

looks gorgeous

the hdr impact is so different now

[slow spoke]

My mode option just isn’t there to turn on hdr

[mortal wolf]

what file is this?

[rose shuttle]

mine, built locally

[wise flax]

@slow spoke Check the discord pins and download the latest RenoDX version for this game. You're using an older version.

[mortal wolf]

yeah, we build with clang

microsoft gets offended

[civic gale]

for the lighting fix, we just replace the folder correct?

[wise flax]

Yeah and backup the original.

[viscid wedge]

You have the vanilla tonemapper on, i'd change that. Just hit the reset button, then recommended

[rose shuttle]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/51fe2084bf846788d485e03e32cf75d9809fd0d43942b3ed187152e098316d47?nocache=1 built with msvc

they are flagging on this line alone: extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "RenoDX for Crimson Desert";

so either "DESCRIPTION" or "for Crimson Desert"

[mortal wolf]

yeah #1469072401450012774 message

but just any description

#1469072401450012774 message this is tedy too

[rose shuttle]

ehhhh why don't you guys just ignore the description then...?

[spark oriole]

@crude marsh any chance you can package the lighting fix to work with https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/84 ?

[mortal wolf]

but the game has the name renodx-crimsondesert.addon64 in there

[slow spoke]

I can’t thank yall enough

I got it working now

[mortal wolf]

entire addon.cpp without description still trips

[rose shuttle]

fine I'll try clang I guess

something tells me the words "Crimson Desert" are being inlined in clang but not msvc

[mortal wolf]

i was able to get it less naggy by removing ShellExecute

and have imgui launch the links

which puts the execution on reshade

[dire pilot]

now that's what I'm talking about - this is great night vibes

[slow spoke]

Do yall recommend having auto exposure on ?

[viscid wedge]

personal preference

if you want dark to be actually dark, its there as an option

[slow spoke]

I gotcha I’m on an Oled it just looks super dark but it looks good somehow haha

[rose shuttle]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/3f224e5ac6a317188ee65b2f7974c9ff9f436be590cdf446ed19976794d780c6?nocache=1 I took jon's build in the pins and hex edited out any reference to "Crimson" or "DESCRIPTION"

AVs really are completely shit

[viscid wedge]

yeah same, and to be quite far if I find myself having to navigate or i come to a cliff, i'll swap it off at times

have to remember its just a video game, not real life.. so we have that option lol

[mortal wolf]

mine passed microsoft and skyhigh. then a day later, popped up

[rose shuttle]

yeah it's never going to be perfect

but I mean

it's pretty clearly flagging on Crimson alone

[mortal wolf]

it's not actually checking code is the problem, so then i also risk all renodx get flagged at some point, so leaving the marker they're using is probably best

[rose shuttle]

so w/e, up to you guys then

[mortal wolf]

microsoft tallies up how much stuff comes from discord, i'm sure

it being over internet is part of the issue. if i have the file on my drive and scan it says it's safe, when i download it with file:///c:/ link it says unsafe

!ml machine learning

[rose shuttle]

that is completely different

files downloaded from the internet are automatically considered suspicious because of their zone identifier (set by the browser itself)

clicking "Unblock" in the file properties dialog unsets the identifier

[mortal wolf]

yeah i know, but i asked it to scan the file and it said it was safe

but it's a crap system anyway

[slow spoke]

Bro I swear I got a performance boost with this 🤣

[mortal wolf]

probably people get annoyed if the file they're writing gets moved/deleting

[rose shuttle]

yeah

[jaunty summit]

This game is weird, got Ps5 controller connected with cable and the vibrations feel so low adaptive triggers don't work (enabled in setting) tried converting Ps5 controller to xbox and same low vibrations etc

[rose shuttle]

again it's your project and I'm not trying to push things, I just don't understand complaining about the flagging and then doing nothing about it. AVs are never going to respect mods either way

[slow spoke]

Yup same here on my end with a Xbox controller

[mortal wolf]

i tried submitting to microsoft and their site doesn't work. sent to bitdefender to see what they'll say

[rose shuttle]

they whitelist binary hashes, not code signatures

new build, new problem

[jaunty summit]

Even when atackkingI feel no vibrations same for you? Only in some things I can feel them very softly haha

[dapper lake]

i swear, i dont know how, but crimson desert is messing up my afterburner profiles. User defined fan curve keeps disabling and its something to do with this game lmao

[slow spoke]

Yeah they are very soft I’m using a Xbox elite 2 controller

[slow spoke]

Also same here 🤣

[dapper lake]

wait really? im not just going mental tryna get dldsr 1.78x working?? lmao

been at it for hours trying random shit then playing for a bit then trying again

[slow spoke]

You are not crazy at all lol

[dapper lake]

how the hell is it even doing that then

ive never had a game affect an afterburner profile before

[viscid wedge]

I have 1.78x enabled, isn't enabled in game.

[dapper lake]

yep thats what im tryna fix

[viscid wedge]

or rather, 5120x2880 isn't available in game

[dapper lake]

other dude said switchin between monitro 1 and 2 fixed it but no dice for me

[viscid wedge]

but i don't really mind, i don't want less performance

[dapper lake]

even desktop 1.78x just gets ignored by CD and presents with native or 2.25

im tryna get some back by going down to 1.78 lol

[wise flax]

Does setting 1.78 on your desktop not make it available in game?

[dapper lake]

nope

[wise flax]

Damn

[dapper lake]

tried the good old alt enter but CD is immune to it apparently

i accidentally disabled gsync at one point too which made my CRU profile go haywire and i had to reset that

bc i refuse to be stuck at 240hz for 10bit or 8bit on 360

[torn vortex]

so the new snapshot fromt hbursday fro crimson desert is being flagged by bitdefender, anyone know whats going on?

[hollow pollen]

if you get 1.78 working PLEASE dm me how. Would love to use it. I can only enable 2.25x

[viscid wedge]

This has been a minor, and easily bypassed issue since last weekend. Read the bold text in the pin

[velvet cobalt]

So with the most recent auto exposure update I have the slider at 0 and it still seems too bright. Looking out a window from an interior is still blown out for example. Do I have a setting somewhere that's breaking it?

[velvet cliff]

tessellation on and off

[faint bobcat]

Game doesnt use tessellation

only screenspaced displacement mapping

I will want to work on improving it if I can

just need one final shader to decomp

[hollow kiln]

the geo it adds is nice. sometimes it looks better off, sometimes better on. if it retained the shadowlike detail of the pom it'd be best of both

[quasi flicker]

That sounds like Nvidia driver issue that was reported

[quasi flicker]

Honestly it’s not worth it

[dapper lake]

ive gave up on dldsr 1.78 in favour of squeezing an extra 50mhz out my gpu lmao every little helps

[quasi flicker]

It smears the image on its own and then you apply Dlss quality setting that doesn’t really help

Also it somehow breaks VRR

Only for crimson desert

[dapper lake]

i guess im not getting my 50 extra mhz

any more than where i am and i crash lol

[quasi flicker]

VRR with dldsr works perfectly fine in other games

[dapper lake]

ive not used VRR for a while bc of the flickering

[quasi flicker]

I see the VRR +hdr flicker in cyberpunk but somehow not in CD

[dapper lake]

it was mh world for me

it makes the reshade flicker with smooth motion worse

[daring orbit]

I must be blind, i never see that flicker

[quasi flicker]

I really hope that someone in CD dev knows about dlaa + hdr bug

[dapper lake]

and frame gen in general

[daring orbit]

Are you on a 50s series?

[quasi flicker]

Yea

Sorry meant to really to @daring orbit

[daring orbit]

I always ask that cause i dont have the black bars on 40 series, and i hadnt encounter anyone who has yet

[subtle nova]

guys, i'm just curios, is this how HDR supposed to look with RenoDX? or should i bump default ingame hdr brightness? I'm using preset 1 in Reno, no changes

[analog root]

The black bar is only with rr on and dlaa?

[quasi flicker]

Definitely seems like a Nvidia driver issue

[real idol]

Isn't it possible for game devs to put higher res textures in the game as well and have the max settings access those for people who have tons of vram to spare? The game is already 150GB, I won't mind a little more space for higher quality of textures

[daring orbit]

Oh my bad i thought was just dlaa

I cant run rr and dlaa

[quasi flicker]

The black bar happens if you

1. override Dlss on any quality setting with NVapp
2. Enable DLAA with HDR

[viscid wedge]

I played for the first 10 hours or so on DLAA + HDR without an issue (then I discovered RR even on Performance mode was worth it for me)

[daring orbit]

I have dlaa and hdr, no issue

[quasi flicker]

Right forgot to mention if you got 50x gpu

[daring orbit]

Im sure it they fix it

[quasi flicker]

Well I’m literally holding off on the game until they do.

[viscid wedge]

games been out a week

[quasi flicker]

I’m that stingy

[rose shuttle]

avoiding a game with glaring bugs is stingy?

[analog root]

I hope they fix dlss in the next patch

[quasi flicker]

There are options to set to quality I guess, if I wouldn’t be stingy I’d just do that

[viscid wedge]

not going to happen that quickly

[dapper lake]

dlss+dlaa fix pls

[wheat elk]

I read that as stinky... lol

[dapper lake]

but aye probably gonna take some work

[quasi flicker]

Thanks for reminding me, might as well take a shower

[rose shuttle]

paying $70 for a game and then accepting parts of it will be broken/untested is wild

[daring orbit]

Its pretty decent sandbox game

[slow spoke]

perfection

[wise flax]

I got it free with my 9850x3d

[naive jackal]

@Nukem, that's pretty much every game though

[quasi flicker]

I love the game, it ticked all my expectations so far

[sinful ravine]

is this how the game normally looks saturation-wise?

[quasi flicker]

Just want that memory to be clean in 4K

[rose shuttle]

doesn't necessarily make it acceptable though

[slow spoke]

I am using the Vibrance option in reshade as well I like a bit more color pop

I hate that HDR removes the vibrant colors

[viscid wedge]

ability to look past minor annoyances and enjoy your time playing. At this point experiencing what i've experienced, you'd have to pry this game from my cold dead hands.

[viscid wedge]

all you needed was the saturation slider built right into Reno

[slow spoke]

Honestly just noticed it

[quasi flicker]

70$ for this, I don’t mind. Looks like a 1000h game to me

[vivid iris]

it doesn't remove them, it probably just means that you use an unclamped gamut in SDR

[quasi flicker]

I’m just patient

[vivid iris]

so super oversaturated colors in SDR

[golden scaffold]

I'm 30h in... And I'm taking my time with it. I haven't even done the Reed Devil yet (ussually couple of hours in if you rush).

There is so much this could easily be a 300+ hour game if you continue at this pace.

I've barely done anything at all, but I feel like I've experienced so much at the same time.

Discovery, intrigue and wonder is the words I would use to describe the game. It's BDO world building on steroids. Truly an immersive slow burner if you're up for that. It's got all the vibes.

[wise flax]

Also the story while not good does get less bad after the first couple of chapters. The only really bad chapter is ch.1 imo. The corny do good and good comes to you thing they started with was cringy.

[viscid wedge]

side note, i just did crimson nightmare an hour or two ago. that was fun.. until you realize what you have to do

[slow spoke]

sorry Jon new to this not sure what that means tbh lol I am using alienware aw3225qf

[faint bobcat]

sure, some games do that.

Maybe Pearl has access to higher source textures and might release later? who knows

that or waitTM for texture replacement mod

but asset modding is oof atm

[wise flax]

@slow spoke He's saying your colors when not using HDR are likely not accurate, so you're likely used to colors being oversaturated.

[analog root]

Just did beloth boss this afternoon and I can say for sure it was the hardest boss of the game, but the coolest

[crude marsh]

I think a lot of the reason the game is 150GB is they don't compress their files that much...

[rose shuttle]

they pulled an Ark: Survival Evolved?

[low crane]

AEL Vanilla/500/50

[novel jay]

ive noticed that the new autoexposure dims down bright surfaces in day time scenes.

[slow spoke]

I gotcha that makes sense

[crude marsh]

only some of the assets in their .paz archives are compressed

[wise flax]

I'm honeslty a bit disappointed with the boss fights. I was expecting close to souls level of boss difficulty and its just not even close.

[novel jay]

I think its because its based off vanilla autoexposure?

[crude marsh]

and they use a lighter lz compression

[vivid iris]

in SDR, your monitor should have an sRGB mode you can set. This will set calibrated colors for SDR.

[daring orbit]

The reed devil is one of the best boss fights

[vivid iris]

by default almost all oled monitors are unclamped and super oversaturated

[golden scaffold]

Yes, we figured by now this is not a souls game. Just by the amount of consumables you can stack makes it too cheesable to be compared

[subtle nova]

is it how supposed to be with how little lighing i have at night or should i tweak something?

I'm on 5090 with RR enabled (lightning set to max) rest are cinematic, DLSS - Quality

[wise flax]

It's also the combat not feeling tight or polished. I'm having fun, but the combat is not as good as I was expecting.

[slow spoke]

I appreciate the info I been learning more and more everyday from yall ever since I got my OLED monitor with HDR I have been chasing the better image lol

[daring orbit]

Its not a souls like, its more about combos

[golden scaffold]

There's more to it, you're probably missing something

[wise flax]

I played Nioh 3 directly before this and it has one of the best combat systems of any video game.

[vivid iris]

when you set it it's gonna look super drab and boring and you'll probably hate it, but give your brain some time to adjust lol

[crude marsh]

I could maybe take a look, I think that person reached out to me on nexus

[viscid wedge]

he's already cranked the saturation lol

[slow spoke]

lmfaoo shit is cranked for sure

[wise flax]

I'm definitely not missing anything. There are tons of buttons and combos, its just not very well put together imo. It's flashy for sure, but not balanced.

[slow spoke]

ldk why my eye balls just love the vibrant colors

[golden scaffold]

It is very clunky even when you figure it out I'll give it that.

[viscid wedge]

About all I can remember while in a fight is smashing them with R1+R2. So many others but none of it is muscle memory yet

[wise flax]

@viscid wedge Makes sure you use the blinding flash follow up when fighting big groups. It kills shit super fast.

It's by far the strongest skill I've found so far.

[quasi flicker]

Do you mind showing sliders for your setup ?

[subtle nova]

i mean, am i doing something wrong?

[lucid thorn]

someone recommended it to me and it's my safety net 😂

[viscid wedge]

i'm not even sure what you mean. i know the blinding flash ability to burn things.. that?

[quasi flicker]

Ty sir saved

[elfin hollow]

Actual yyyy.dd.MM in the wild. Crazy

[crude marsh]

looks like out of date addon perhaps

[quasi flicker]

I was so confused when I searched for it

[viscid wedge]

SDR?

[lucid thorn]

R1+Triangle is a stab, square and triangle is my DDT or clothesline, dodge slash is an option, r1+l1 to blind and then the followup, and different light/heavy combos. Those're my go-to's.

[naive terrace]

yeap, still don't like the colors in HDR

[real idol]

I don’t know why most games don’t do that though. I’ve never seen this game go above 13G vram on maxed out settings. Would be really nice to have some nice quality textures. Textures mods can be rough as well. I’ve played games with some texture mods before but there are always some bugs but they do look good when they work right.

[vivid iris]

oh fuck I meant to do yyyy.mm.dd lmao

[golden scaffold]

Just don't try to play it like souls depending on R1 spam and whittling down, read what the skills do and try to experiment with them, you'll end up having more fun when it clicks.

Small tip I would point is that your R1 deal basically no hitstun, but they are completely free (no stamina cost) so if you're just using that you're not using all of your resources that you could

[wise flax]

@lucid thorn I also like A+X to do that wrestling move where you slam them to the ground on their head/neck.

[crude marsh]

this game was made to run at 8GB and nothing more, they sacrificed quality in pretty much everything

[subtle nova]

not really, i have just downloaded fresh new one

[vivid iris]

my ass definitely just put in the bigger number second

[crude marsh]

dark power is the old one

[subtle nova]

where should i look at to see if some setting is wrong

[wise flax]

@golden scaffold I know I use all of the abilities and understand the combat system. I'm just not super impressed with it compared to what my expectations were.

[subtle nova]

sorry, dark power?

[crude marsh]

the setting you showed in screenshot

[viscid wedge]

I avoid souls style games completely. Learning boss fights and dying over and over is not my sorta fun. And yeah I find myself almost never using R1, but just spamming R2

[lucid thorn]

yeah that too!

[golden scaffold]

I expected a bit more as well coming from BDO but I wouldn't call it bad or boring, could be better but it's different enough for me

[lucid thorn]

you hold the light/heavy right?

[real idol]

I guess it’s nice for people with low vram cards but what about the people who have quite a lot of vram to spare? Why screw them over? Why can’t we have both?

[golden scaffold]

You ever try R1+other buttons?

[viscid wedge]

It just all feels so clunky while you're trying to avoid getting hit, but i'm old and slow

[quasi flicker]

Just saw a Reddit thread about how CD devs put dlss in a wrong pipeline…

[subtle nova]

i see, so which preset should i use? they are different night and day lol

[crude marsh]

idk they wanted to convince people they made an optimized game by labeling settings as cinematic

[crude marsh]

I dont think this is true really

[quasi flicker]

Sounds like cap but idk with bugs I’ve seen might as well

[lucid thorn]

Make sure you hold the attack button, it's easier to mix things in sometimes :p

[viscid wedge]

yeah I mean I know about the R1+Y, it just seems useless when I actually get it to connect

[lucid thorn]

you can hold it!

[crude marsh]

you would need to use the latest addon

[lucid thorn]

Then time it when they get closer

[viscid wedge]

as in no useful damage when I could be hitting R2

[subtle nova]

im using latest, there are 3 presets and Off

[lucid thorn]

I love doing the stab and then running them into a wall its so visceral

[wise flax]

You can also put points into it and grab them as like a meat shield when you stab them

[golden scaffold]

My favourite move so far is Damiene's autopary stance (R1+dodge) her thrust combo is nice as well. Overall her kit is just so fun to use I clicked with her more than with Kliff

[crude marsh]

you are not using the latest if you have the old settings.

[pure sundial]

You're not using the latest one, the dark power slider was only in the older version of reno

[quasi flicker]

It looks like they hardcoded Dlss upscaling values, none of the Dlss overrides work.
And Nvidia app doesn’t recognize CD

[pure sundial]

The new version is the first thing you see in pinned messages

[subtle nova]

i got it from github, this link

[crude marsh]

discord has current

[lucid thorn]

Hell, you can also crouch by clicking in left stick, sneak up on someone and assassinate them

[viscid wedge]

so many button combinations to remember while under stress, too much for my monkey brain to deal with. I will just keep R2'ing my way through this game lol

[golden scaffold]

When you upgrade it breaks boss superarmor, I think that is it's niche

[crude marsh]

I looked at their render passes in the game files and forge looked at shaders and it doesnt seem as simple as wrong order

[lucid thorn]

not unless you do the running one!

[crude marsh]

they obviously did something wrong, but is probably also related to things being very low quality to start with

[subtle nova]

thank you, found it, gonna try now

[crude marsh]

there is a thing or two not included or included in RR thats wrong though

[viscid wedge]

Now the Crimson Nightmare boss I fought earlier tonight was annoying. Needed to encorporate my crappy controller aim with the L3 ability to stun him

[lucid thorn]

lazorr, if a game studio ever recruited you guys (you, forge, etc) for official HDR in a game, would you jump at the opportunity

[lucid thorn]

There's a few ways to take care of him!

[pure sundial]

Yeah aiming with controller sucks but spamming L3 to stun him works lol

[crude marsh]

I am not an HDR person ha, I just use reno and work with them on stuff sometimes

[pure sundial]

It didn't even get to hit me

[quasi flicker]

Yea on first patch there was a bug with RR, all shadows were rendered in 1/4 of the screen…

[golden scaffold]

What does L3 on default controls do again?

[lucid thorn]

"sometimes" you've been doing almost daily updates :p

[pure sundial]

left stick

[crude marsh]

nah, that was just ray marched local lights

[lucid thorn]

its the axiom hand or whatever its called

[pure sundial]

oh yeah axiom hand mb

[golden scaffold]

Oh you use that in combat?

[viscid wedge]

yeah I read a whole reddit thread of people using the meditate ability then hittin the burst or whatever it is to stun him, however I tried that probably 10 times and it would just send the boss out of the arena

[pure sundial]

For specific bosses such as crimson nightmare

[quasi flicker]

I see, only saw it when RR enabled

[lucid thorn]

its one of the ways to clear out the crimson nightmare

[pure sundial]

but you can also get skills that let you grapple enemies with it

[quasi flicker]

They fixed it since

[pure sundial]

can't use abyss artifacts though I'm not sure how you unlock it

[golden scaffold]

Yeah grapple I've seen

[crude marsh]

they disabled tiling on them right after forge and I found tiling was the issue

[lucid thorn]

I didn't think of either for me, I ended up dodging 5/6 attacks in a row and then he jumped and crashed and I attacked while he stunned himself, and repeated that a few times

[viscid wedge]

I saw people using that L3 to fling themselves into the air using trees.. stuff is wild

[lucid thorn]

maybe they're here, watching :p

[golden scaffold]

When it says "spend 2 artifacts or - can also be learned by observing" does that mean I can save (not waste) the artifacts if I'm patient to learn it by eventually observing?

Or do you still pay?

[lucid thorn]

you just get it

no need to spend points

[fresh field]

you can learn it if you find someone in the world that uses it and you observe the skill

[lucid thorn]

one or the other

[pure sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

Pearl abyss fix the lighting and LOD's and my life is yours

[golden scaffold]

So it's best to save points on thise

[quasi flicker]

Well then I hope you can find a fix for DLAA + HDR 😬

[lucid thorn]

sorta, I'm playing through blind not looking things up and I have no idea where anything is

and some stuff you get from bosses, some from random npcs in the world

[pure sundial]

You can use abyss artifacts to learn them and just use the faded ones to get your artifact back once you've observed it

[lucid thorn]

You get the abyss things from puzzles and even just from combat, so it's not that much of a waste

[viscid wedge]

you can apparently observe while in a fight. it started to do it on someone I was fighting early but.. they hit me and it cancelled it. then I just killed them. not straightforward on how that is supposed to work

[golden scaffold]

Wait how does that work? Get them back?

[lucid thorn]

didn't know faded ones could get it back after you observed

[crude marsh]

dont personally care about DLAA + HDR that much I guess cause DLAA + RR is basically a non starter

[pure sundial]

Yeah they are re specs

[novel jay]

Old Reno Autoexposure / New Reno Autoexposure.

Any way to fix this in the new Build? @vivid iris

[lucid thorn]

hold the focus when they glow 😄

[pure sundial]

It's a full re spec though

[quasi flicker]

Fair enough

[pure sundial]

one faded re specs everything

[analog root]

You need to re spec, observe, learn and then you won't have to use points

[lucid thorn]

tbf a full respec for me is super simple. I've basically only put stuff into stamina and a bit into health/spirit and only a few skills

[quasi flicker]

Looking forward to Nvidia releasing gen 2 RR then

[dire pilot]

holy, how is anyone supposed to beat archery on pad? lol I had to switch to mouse to even have a chance

[pure sundial]

True I can't imagine anyone is using DLAA with RR

[lucid thorn]

does respec unlearn observed moves?

[golden scaffold]

lol rip console users + they're on lower fps too

[young pebble]

No revives/food usage to increase difficulty

[dire pilot]

I was shocked at how fast the opponent just loosed arrows

[wise flax]

@lucid thorn No I've heard it gives back the skill point and you keep the skill.

[lucid thorn]

did you play before they patched it

[crude marsh]

I had to do it on controller cause there was so much mouse acceleration, found it easier on controller

[lucid thorn]

I haven't found the mouse accel that bad 🤔 Were you running high/low sens?

[golden scaffold]

Mouse Accel that bad??

[dire pilot]

no lol I've heard it was worse

[pure sundial]

If you have the wagon unlocked you can drive it to where the other archer is positioned and put it in front of him before starting the competition

then they can't hit anything