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[fast geyser]

with FSR1?

[crude marsh]

shouldnt make a huge difference but easy to try various ones

[light mantle]

lol yea

[grim elk]

hmm, mine didnt afterwards. you can try renodx commander to make the redownload and applying a 2 click process

[agile stag]

Thanks! just came in for this issue and it fixed it! you are a live saver 🙂

[carmine stump]

I just made an expection for the folder in windos defender settings. hope this works

[viscid wedge]

Set an exclusion for the game folder.

[grim elk]

should work

[carmine stump]

yes, thanks

[fast geyser]

Not good, it introduces some black dots artifacts all over the screen. I think I'll do without output scaling. DLDSR is no good?

[flint moss]

actually 10x better 🙌

[stone comet]

yoink easy

[viscid wedge]

Windows Security > Virus and Threat Protection > Manage Settings under Virus and THreat Protection > Scroll down to Exclusions. Set the games main directory.

[stone comet]

NoHud stuff + Noise fix for the green tree last skill that obliterates your screen

[burnt dew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/214 kinda work but also doesn;'t really do shit. I gained 1 fps from going max lighting to cinematic but more noise

[golden scaffold]

another vibe code?

[stone comet]

probably

lmao

[golden scaffold]

so i just replace the ini and i'll have the noise fix in?

[stone comet]

yuppp

[golden scaffold]

btw does the [GTGroup1]Name=MINI-MAP also not work for you?

i can hide hud but toggle minimap is not working for me

(so i just use hide hud but it's more annoying as it hides ALL UI)

[stone comet]

no clue ive never used nohud also no numpad so cba rebinding LOL

[golden scaffold]

hm i'll check nexus commentos

[pure sundial]

Sitting in the uni library and all I can think about is crimson desert rn

What is output scaling and how do you activate it?

[viscid wedge]

OptiScaler, apparently

[ionic parcel]

should these icons be there at all times, or it's a bug/some feature i don't know about that would make them disappear? 😄

[viscid wedge]

are you in the camp?

[rare vapor]

Just encase, should hdr be on in the game or off when using reno?

[viscid wedge]

on

[stone comet]

theyre just always there in the cam pyeah, probably an oversight

[rare vapor]

yeah was thinking so, for somne reason keeps getting turned off now.

[ionic parcel]

yeah, I believe you just answered my question, it's only once you're in the area 😄

thank you

[viscid wedge]

yeah the probably should disappear in cutscenes

while in camp

[pure sundial]

Ah isn’t optiscaler mainly good for amd users

[viscid wedge]

is HDR enabled and calibrated in Windows?

[rare vapor]

yeah

[viscid wedge]

I've never used it but reading the github, it seems to do a lot of things for all users.

[pure sundial]

I see

[ionic parcel]

it doesn't though haha

[viscid wedge]

In question here is specifically the "Output Scaling", everone was talking about it this morning

[crude marsh]

output scaling is telling DLSS to scale to higher res and then opti scales back down

thats it

[pure sundial]

ah

[rare vapor]

gonna need to play, restart more etc to see what's causing it. only turned the game off 3 times today 😋

[viscid wedge]

we both chose the white dog lol

[lament nymph]

... man I'm gonna spoil this for u guys

[viscid wedge]

I hear rumors of a place I can go to buy gear for my dog so thats the plan tonight (which i won't make it after being sidetracked by 1000 other things on the way)

[lament nymph]

but crimson desert has a big ass desert

[pure sundial]

Not so much a spoiler you can see how big it is from the abyss

I have seen just under half the map in 60 hrs

[rapid pulsar]

goty

[faint bobcat]

https://youtu.be/V8mEdKg9V9A?si=hkPdXmqc8nbovEVy&t=148

[waxen hatch]

how can i use nohud with reshade? can i replace the dxgi.dll?

[faint bobcat]

RR off looks dreadful

[stone comet]

that looks horrendous

jesus christ LOL

[stray grove]

@faint bobcat poor guy need RR and renodx

[stone comet]

I do agree with him that its really offputting seeing the entire planet from a single point

[mortal wolf]

probably doesn't have an HDR display

[faint bobcat]

he did mention in another vid

he didnt like HDR

too many bad experiences

[stone comet]

i feel like thats usually the normal persons reaction

keep getting shit and just completely forget about it

[faint bobcat]

so they do lighting via atmospheric scattering not probes or IBL

the weathers are just borked

this is 8PM

but doesnt feel like 8PM

nor looks like

[vivid iris]

it really is a shame that the biggest problem HDR faces is that nobody knows how to make content for it

[ruby tusk]

A lot of people also turn hdr on and expect it to just work out of the box without setting up and calibrating their display

[pure sundial]

I wonder if this is something they will actively work on, they’re not blind they for sure know about how wack the lighting can be…. Right?

[vivid iris]

same can be said for SDR really though

[ruby tusk]

I converted someone last night by telling them RenoDx lets you change the size of the moon

[vivid iris]

SDR is a terrible experience if you don't look up what you should be using on your screen

[ruby tusk]

True

[pure sundial]

Yea that was me the first time I used HDR lol

[vivid iris]

HDR isn't any different in that regard, just a couple more settings to change but either way you're just looking up the list of things to do

[ruby tusk]

Right yeah

[vivid iris]

imo the only thing complicated about HDR is misinformation

and a lot of software just doing a bad job with it

[ruby tusk]

Yeah

A lot of games don’t implement it well

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk ahah the moon sold it !! 10x moon

[ruby tusk]

Basically broken in 90% of games

[ruby tusk]

Yeah once I told him you could change the moon , he was like “oh man, I need RenoDX”

[pure sundial]

I love fromsoft locking you to exclusive fullscreen when using hdr

[stray grove]

he won't go back after that i could not imagine playing the game withtout renodx and the couple fix ahah

[ruby tusk]

[wispy crown]

Excuse me what? Almost always even with the native implementation HDR is a net positive.

[hazy geode]

@crude marsh Is that your cat in your avatar??? 😁

[ruby tusk]

I think with how blown out vanilla already is with exposure, hdr doesn’t help

[ionic parcel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/214
it does work 😄

[wispy crown]

HDR in Crimson Desert looks even natively much better than SDR on a good monitor.

[vivid iris]

vanilla HDR in this game doesn't do much to help the visibility situation yeah.

like it's still better but the brightness is overwhelming in a dark room if you set it to even just 1000 nits

[wispy crown]

I assume it's again just a UI change and the technical side remains the same?

[ruby tusk]

Right yeah

Just get flash banged

[pure sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[vivid iris]

before we had reno up and running I was using 500 nits peak

acesv2 is a mess for games

[ruby tusk]

I don’t want pink fire

[faint bobcat]

[plain fractal]

Is there a fix for the DLSS Bug yet or do we have to wait for nvidia to fix it via driver?

[plain fractal]

Welcome back Dark Souls 1

[wispy crown]

Is it a driver bug? Thought the implementation is just borked.

[ionic parcel]

this time it's a functional one, there's an fps gain and some quality loss, so they are really decoupled

[vivid iris]

it's funny how the timestamped bit would be solved with better shadowing

[low crane]

Hows the noise/boiling compared to RR off with lighting set to cinematic or ultra?

[lone inlet]

This is like the 3rd or 4th time somebody has tried this lol. It doesn't work. It might change in the menu, but it has no actual impact in game.

[lucid mango]

Any tips for settings to use for 9070 xt? Really want to use RR but hard to get to 60 fps with it enabled (1440p) 😅

And if I don't use RR, any settings I should configure in RenoDX?
Saw that the recommended settings where made for RR

[pure sundial]

What settings is this

[faint bobcat]

Forge Custom

[rocky umbra]

Only 10% diff though - wtf.

[faint bobcat]

or BDO ultra low

[pure sundial]

Lmao

[ruby tusk]

yikes

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[faint bobcat]

luckily you can go this low with base settings

[pure sundial]

🤮

[faint bobcat]

@crude marsh ten years apart

about the same LODs

[jade spruce]

[ionic parcel]

tbh im on rtx 3060 so can't tell unless do some 10 fps testing, although no RR, all ultra, vs max lighting + RR vs medium lighting + RR, all upscaled from dumpster to 4k

[pure sundial]

Is there a reason you are lowering the settings heaps or do you just like pain

[lavish lance]

Awesome to hear, might give it a go then.

[faint bobcat]

I am testing dispatching custom contact shadows

want it replace it all

[pure sundial]

Ahh

[wheat rivet]

Hey, the latest pinned file is being flagged as a virus by Windows Defender and it gets deleted before I can install it. How can I get around this?

[crude marsh]

ye

[hollow solar]

i hope the game runs at 500 fps with that look lmao

[stray grove]

@wheat rivet you restore it in security setting

@wheat rivet check protection history and allow file

[worldly vapor]

could utilize my 540hz if thats the case

[wheat rivet]

Thx

[worldly vapor]

[pure sundial]

Is it 720p to hit that refresh rate?

I recall seeing a monitor that could do that

[pure sundial]

You playing on 4K with a 3060??

[hollow solar]

I had a crazy idea seeing how bad everything is in the render pipeline. The game look weirdly blurry yet over sharpened, so my tought was the dev looked at the game saw noise everywhere decided to blur the whole rendered frame to mask noise, but since now it looked blurry they just applied a forced sharpening effect. How to fix noise 101 with PA

[wispy crown]

Honestly 4K DLSS Performance probably looks better than 1080p native doesn't it?

Even 4K DLSS Ultra Performance might still be better than 1080p native.

Depending on the game.

[pure sundial]

wonder what kind of performance you’d get at ultra perf with a 3060

[wispy crown]

I'm on 5120x2160 and have to use DLSS Performance on almost every game but still would never go back to 3840x1600.

[wispy crown]

Probably slightly better than native 1080p if used DLSS 4.0 instead of 4.5

[pure sundial]

Yeah I’ve been hearing this, makes me think I should have gone for a 4K monitor instead of 3440x1440 when I built my pc

[rare vapor]

any way to reduce the sharpening fsr 4.1 adds?

its so over the top

[wispy crown]

But you're probably on 34" right? Display size makes a big difference. I don't know if I would need 5120x2160 on anything less than 45".

[rocky umbra]

Not by default. You can add opti and reduce the sharpening and/or use RCAS to smooth out the foliage.

[ionic parcel]

yeah ;(( this game looks like shit with 720p->4k dlss, but can you tell this is literally 620p->4k? 😄

[rare vapor]

is it easy to find a guide when optiscaler?

[pure sundial]

I am yep

[rocky umbra]

Shouldnt be too difficult.

[pure sundial]

I would have gone for a 5k2k but I got my monitor on a pretty good sale

[warm magnet]

These settings bricked my game and idk how to reset my optiscaler settings

[plain fractal]

Delete optiscaler.ini

[pure sundial]

Hard to tell from my phone since the ppi is higher

[paper heron]

hey guys, not sure what happened but my game is getting huge blocky glitches wherever i look, trees glitch, mountains turn black then back normal, i tried turning off optiscaler, RR, Reno, etc, but its still the same, anybody else get this issue?

out of nowhere it seems

[worldly vapor]

the 720p mode is 720hz

540hz 1440

[flint moss]

i use 4k performance, is it possible for me to get better performance with similar sharpness using optiscaler?

[worldly vapor]

but ye it is that one

[stray grove]

@warm magnet why would you run these setting on your 4060 laptop ? trying to get 10fps 😅

[pure sundial]

That’s not bad at all damn

What size?

[worldly vapor]

26.5"

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris when new av safe version

[stray grove]

@mortal wolf you av always gonna flag it just allow the file in protection history 😅

[errant wolf]

so im using the github mod section snapshot now. game still crashes at title screen, but as a work around changing to Preset - OFF avoids the crash and everything works after that

[vivid iris]

[mortal wolf]

the textlinks don't get flagged

[dapper lake]

i just got this on restart, ran the uninstalll optiscaler and then reinstalled as normal and working fine now

[vivid iris]

oh I already responded to you about that, I tried and it still got flagged

I tried removing links entirely and it was still getting flagged

[mortal wolf]

flagged how

[vivid iris]

virustotal

[mortal wolf]

virustotal always flags tedy

that's not an issue

[vivid iris]

most of my mods don't get flagged at all 🤔

[mortal wolf]

the problem is skyhigh and wacatac

not tedy

[vivid iris]

ah alright

in that case

[wispy crown]

wavatac is my nightmare. MSI Afterburner gets flagged on my system all the time.

[vivid iris]

2026.03.26

• fix for false AV detection of skyhigh and wacatac (still flags tedy)

[wispy crown]

BTW can someone tell me why my system doesn't flag my own build file from the fork repo?

[mortal wolf]

works

(5) was old (4) is new

[vivid iris]

if you build the code yourself antivirus wont' see it as foreign. If you build it it doesn't matter that it's unsigned

[mortal wolf]

the machine learning (ai) only flags if it comes from a download link

[wispy crown]

Ah interesting. Thanks

[mortal wolf]

you can try a file:///c:/mymods/file.addon64 link in chrome and it'll trip

[outer furnace]

otherwise unchanged?

[warm magnet]

It works you just have to drag the old install bat into the new folder to use it

[mortal wolf]

links are uglier

[wispy crown]

Oh you're right funny. Firefox doesn't trip it though which is weird.

[errant wolf]

i have optiscaler setup with reno right now and it works. read the optiscaler instructions. rename the optiscaler.dll to dxgi.dll and optiscaler.ini dxgi=false then load reshade=true
rename renodx own dxgi.dll to Reshade64.dll
not sure if thats correct but it works for me

[outer furnace]

sorry for German, Bitdefender still doesn't like it

[stray grove]

@errant wolf you can jsut rename dxgi from reshade d3d12 and have optiscaller pick dxgi more simple

[vivid iris]

yes

[wispy crown]

Yeah I think that's deserved for using Bitdefender though haha

[crude marsh]

its over

[outer furnace]

could be worse, my dad still uses Avira

[crude marsh]

I hate this game

[lucid fog]

yeah virustotal still flags for tedy

[crude marsh]

I hate this engine

[ruby tusk]

oh no

[stray grove]

@crude marsh nooooo

[errant wolf]

do renodx and optiscaler work with the same file ?

[crude marsh]

I have decoded ALL OF THE WEATHER FILES

AND THE TWO FUCKING THINGS I WANT TO CHANGE

ARE IN CODE

[wispy crown]

Ah the good weather files... Is there even one game with good weather system? AC Shadows maybe but I have no clue how it works in code.

[stray grove]

@errant wolf renodx use reshade so you can rename reshade dxgi to d3d12 without issue and have optiscaller use its own dxgi or just pick an other file name from the list

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cooked-we-are-cooked-gg-ggs-gif-10973716785212391451

[dapper lake]

you also need to set loadreshade=true in optiscaler ini no?

[wispy crown]

We love hardcoded values

[crude marsh]

I would hook the code but uh

they have shitty obfuscation on top of denuvo

and it never works

just absolute nonsense man

[stray grove]

@dapper lake you don't you can simply rename dxgi from reshade d3d12 and have optiscaller use dxgi it work

[wispy crown]

But Denuvo company said it wouldn't complicate modding

[errant wolf]

yeah i renamed rehsade dxgi to Reshade64 so optiscaler would pick it up with loadreshade=tru. i thought thats how it worked

[outer furnace]

Gran Turismo 7, you even have a weather radar and the weather is randomized, you can do the exact same race multiple times and the clouds might just go past the track, not even appear at all or even just rain on parts of the track. its so gud

[warm magnet]

I didn't use the 8k upscale I just wanted more fps from the other stuff

[wispy crown]

Oh shit that sounds good. Now they need to make a PC version because I don't play racing games on my couch.

[lucid fog]

is this still a problem if its flagging for tedy?

[flint moss]

the zoom on the horse was kinda broken though, maybe fixed?

[outer furnace]

me neither usually, I have a 2k money simrig but I still enjoy GT7 on the couch with a Dualsense, its that well implemented lmao

[warm magnet]

nah thats fine too

[mortal wolf]

not to microsoft

[warm magnet]

the horse running zoom is fine too

[dapper lake]

huh. Thats what optiscaler says on github to do weird it works without lmao

[flint moss]

problem occured when you started galloping. zoomed in and out

[vivid iris]

I changed the note for the build

[flint moss]

oh wait so actually might be fixed then :O. i'll check it out

[warm magnet]

yeah put the 1.6 install/uninstall bat into the 1.6.1 folder and it'll work because for some reason the 1.6.1 install bat doesn't open at all for anyone

[flint moss]

will do thx!

[fresh field]

these stone light pillars in the institute look like this. is this 'normal' or something bad with the engine lol

[dapper lake]

anyone any clue what could be causing this? It ONLY happens when the camera does that zoom in when you idle

[fresh field]

very flickery lighting at night

look fine from a distance but when you get close its like a small ring of flickering light/shadows

[vivid iris]

just how rasterized lights work, in short

[plain fractal]

Dumb question: Im trying out dlls fg x3. How should I set up Display Commander to limit the real frames? Does this look correct, or do I need to input the real fps into the limit instead of the fps after fg?

[warm magnet]

Idk why but setting my optiscaler to dlss with xefg frame gen bricked my game

[warm magnet]

What is that

Oh

Wait 😂

[dusky echo]

Is it worth buying or wait for more patches ?

[warm magnet]

How can I turn on optiscaler frame gen stuff for more frames without bricking my game

[flint moss]

still have some zoom issues. did you choose an increased FOV in the installer btw? i did +20, that might be the issue

[warm magnet]

Yeah I chose +20 why?

[stray grove]

@warm magnet you have a 4060 just use nvidia fg ?

[warm magnet]

But I can only use x2 and thats not enough

I need MORE

[stray grove]

if you base fps is low to start with turning on 3X is gonna feel like shit

just lower setting a bit can't expect that laptop 4060 to max setting and RR on

😅

[warm magnet]

I get good fps with it and it feels smooth but I want MORE

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[vivid iris]

@mortal wolf any idea what nexus looks for? 99% sure they just go off of what virustotal says, but idk if they ignore tedy.

[dapper lake]

every time i launche it does like 20% shader comp imma try clearing shaders wish me luck lmao

[stray grove]

@warm magnet well you can't magically get more fps 😅 3x wont solve that

[toxic jungle]

where can i download it ?

[flint moss]

you really dont get any fast zooming when going sprinting on the horse? strange :S

its a known issue in the comments

[dapper lake]

magic of deleting cache may have fixed it

[lone inlet]

Optiscaler doesn't enable more than x2 fg for non-supported cards. You need dlss enabler for that. It comes with optiscaler as well tho so you get it anyway.

[toxic jungle]

where can i download it ?

[upbeat magnet]

wait did i miss something, people are forcing 3x?

[warm magnet]

Does dlss enabler work good how is it

[flint moss]

if u dont like it as it is now i dont think patches will do much tbh

[lone inlet]

It allows you to use mfg on pretty much any gpu.
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/757

[toxic jungle]

where do you fking find the download link for renoxd crimson desert????

[true dagger]

pins

[lone inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[toxic jungle]

thanks

[languid sleet]

I have SDR on in image 1, Reno HDR in image 2. I'm missing some of the brightness and "pop" around the character, any suggestions of something I should change here?

[jolly jolt]

reno xdddddddd

[rocky umbra]

Guys, is it possible to make the text brighter? 🤔

Im on HDR with 15% brightnesss and nightlight activated so its dimmed but it still seems too low.

[vivid iris]

I think that's just ABL

[languid sleet]

Yikes, so normal for having an OLED?

[nova cargo]

if using the fake 1000 mode on monitor then yes

[vivid iris]

with 300 paper white, yeah

[true dagger]

check ur ui brightness in ingame HDR Settings

[nova cargo]

ya 300 is eye searing unless you're in a bright room

well i guess abl nukes the brightness anyway

[queen lotus]

in motion probably yes

[stray grove]

to clear cache did you just remove dx cache with disk cleanup?

[rocky umbra]

Ah yes! Thanks. I completely forgot that was there - too used to setting HDR brightness and moving on 😅

[warm magnet]

Turning up my sharpness made DLSS Q look like DLAA with almost zero performance cost

kind of

maybe

[ruby tusk]

Yeah my monitor has fake 1000 nit mode so I just use 400 with paper white at 101

[vivid iris]

@languid sleet my suggestion would be to lower the game brightness and let your eyes get used to it. You'll think it looks better if you give it like 5-10 min. Try like 150 or something around there.

[upbeat magnet]

doing dlss swapper?

[warm magnet]

no I saw there were UI problems

people were talking about how it would mess up the ui

[faint bobcat]

looks to be a vanilla issue

I can take a look

[dapper lake]

%localappdata%>nvidia>DXCache some files wont let you delete

[faint bobcat]

its tiled

so it must be coming from the DeferredDiffuse

[stray grove]

@warm magnet no ui problem with dlss swaper

[languid sleet]

Thanks, I'm going to give it a go. When I calibrate my monitor, the symbol disappears at 500 so I'm assuming 500 is my peak brightness, and I should make my "game brightness" setting much less than that like you're suggesting, right?

[warm magnet]

okay

[dapper lake]

clearing cache fixed it. My game had been doing 20% every launch then stopping so think something went dodgy

[ruby tusk]

correct

[vivid iris]

yep

[languid sleet]

Thank you!

[ruby tusk]

set peak to 500 if that's when it clips and try game brightness around 150

[faint bobcat]

that might explain, ok we should add notes about shader cache clearing

on new addon version

[ruby tusk]

Good to know ^

[dapper lake]

it hasnt fixed the flowers that sometimes turn white sadly but win some lose some ig

[stone comet]

Ive just been swapping the file without clearing my cache, the game just seems to rebuild it every time you do it for me at least

Havent really had that issue like ever somehow

[mortal wolf]

trying to narrow down what is coming up as tedy

[vivid iris]

would be cool if it's an avoidable problem

[dapper lake]

yeah it was usually rebuilding fine but just gave up earlier lmao, even if i didnt change anything it would go to 20% ish then stop and just launch

[mortal wolf]

btw, you have reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::init_swapchain>(OnInitSwapchain); twice

[vivid iris]

lmao

whoops

thanks, dealt with

[hollow kiln]

Anyone encountered this strange blue fog? Only seen it around Fort Perwin

[dapper lake]

is it there constantly or does it come and go based on where you look and move etc?

[mortal wolf]

/*
 * Copyright (C) 2023 Carlos Lopez
 * SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT
 */

#define ImTextureID ImU64

#define DEBUG_LEVEL_0

#include <embed/shaders.h>

#include <d3d12.h>
#include <deps/imgui/imgui.h>
#include <include/reshade.hpp>



namespace {



}  // namespace

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "RenoDX";
extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "RenoDX for Crimson Desert";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;
    //   reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::init_swapchain>(OnInitSwapchain);
    //   // while (IsDebuggerPresent() == 0) Sleep(100);

    //   renodx::mods::shader::expected_constant_buffer_space = 50;
    //   renodx::mods::shader::expected_constant_buffer_index = 13;

    // //   renodx::utils::random::binds.push_back(&shader_injection.custom_random);  // film grain

    //   renodx::mods::shader::allow_multiple_push_constants = true;
    //   renodx::mods::shader::force_pipeline_cloning = true;

    //   reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::init_swapchain>(OnInitSwapchain);

    //   // Register VRS override hooks BEFORE mods::shader registers its draw hooks,
    //   // so our pre-draw injection fires first
    //   reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::draw>(OnVRSDraw);
    //   reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::draw_indexed>(OnVRSDrawIndexed);
    //   reshade::register_event<reshade::addon_event::draw_or_dispatch_indirect>(OnVRSDrawOrDispatchIndirect);

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:
    //   reshade::unregister_event<reshade::addon_event::init_swapchain>(OnInitSwapchain);
    //   reshade::unregister_event<reshade::addon_event::draw>(OnVRSDraw);
    //   reshade::unregister_event<reshade::addon_event::draw_indexed>(OnVRSDrawIndexed);
    //   reshade::unregister_event<reshade::addon_event::draw_or_dispatch_indirect>(OnVRSDrawOrDispatchIndirect);

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

//   renodx::utils::settings::Use(fdw_reason, &settings, &OnPresetOff);
//   renodx::mods::shader::Use(fdw_reason, custom_shaders, &shader_injection);
//   renodx::utils::random::Use(fdw_reason);

  return TRUE;
}

flagged tedy

[vivid iris]

wild

so we're just kinda fucked I guess

[mortal wolf]

/*
 * Copyright (C) 2023 Carlos Lopez
 * SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT
 */

#define ImTextureID ImU64

#define DEBUG_LEVEL_0


#include <deps/imgui/imgui.h>
#include <include/reshade.hpp>

namespace {

}  // namespace

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "RenoDX";
extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "RenoDX for Crimson Desert";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

  return TRUE;
}

also tedy

[hazy geode]

Sorry to ask, but can someone explain what using output scaling in Optiscaler is supposed to do in this game?

[hollow kiln]

It's for sure a rendering artefact of some kind. When I entered the vicinity it covered the whole area and rescinded gradually in a uniform line into the cliff edge. I run into it once before in the same area but it was night time and it was red.

If you move around it changes position regardless of true scene depth. Thought it might be a strange mirror of the clouds of something

[warm magnet]

For some reason dlss swapper nuked my renodx its gone from my reshade

Its back now

[paper heron]

stuff like that happens to me all the time

[warm magnet]

When I open the settings the game goes black dlss swapper had to have done something to it because this has never happened before

[mortal wolf]

OK

#include <include/reshade.hpp>

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "RenoDX";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

  return TRUE;
}

NOTOK

#include <include/reshade.hpp>

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "RenoDX";
extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "RenoDX for Crimson Desert";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

  return TRUE;
}

@vivid iris illegal description

[warm magnet]

My game turns pitch black the second I open my in game settings

[vivid iris]

the fuck

[mortal wolf]

machine learning

AI

[vivid iris]

that's wild

of all the virus-like behavior of renodx (hooking in and modifying shit in realtime), it's randomly flagging the description

[faint bobcat]

[vivid iris]

lemme see if it's clean with everything else in the mod and only the description taken out lol

[karmic quest]

I wonder.. since Denuvo is a rat and eats away performance.. that the optimization also came in mind with that shitty ass program or whatever it is.

[mortal wolf]

tedy

#include <include/reshade.hpp>

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "RenoDX";
extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "RenoDX for Prison Dessert";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

  return TRUE;
}

[warm magnet]

Yeah I can't use dlss swapper it makes my game turn pitch black @stray grove

[toxic jungle]

i installed the file with reshade, i run it with a hdr screen but i dont see that much difference from vanilla. do i have to change settings from hdr or something else ?

[vivid iris]

still getting flagged with the full project with just the description removed

[karmic quest]

In game HDR is on? You also need to adjust your monitors peak hdr brightness in the settings for renodx

But it def should make a difference

Big one at that

[stray grove]

@warm magnet i swear something off with your system you always have wierd issues 😅

[toxic jungle]

adjust how ? raise or low it ? sorry english not my main language

[stray grove]

@warm magnet thats how you set it?

[karmic quest]

I mean you just go off your monitor model to find what is the hdr brightness / peak in the monitor settings you chose..

[mortal wolf]

basically doesn't like reshade addons

[vivid iris]

hopefully this clears up with some time

gonna make posting to nexus immensely annoying though

[warm magnet]

whats that

[mortal wolf]

tedy

#include <include/reshade.hpp>

extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* NAME = "GenoZX";
extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) constexpr const char* DESCRIPTION = "GenoZX for My Fav Game";

BOOL APIENTRY DllMain(HMODULE h_module, DWORD fdw_reason, LPVOID lpv_reserved) {
  switch (fdw_reason) {
    case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH:
      if (!reshade::register_addon(h_module)) return FALSE;

      break;
    case DLL_PROCESS_DETACH:

      reshade::unregister_addon(h_module);
      break;
  }

  return TRUE;
}

[tall maple]

Here is a short video taken with the Nvidia App. 4K HDR with the renodx mod and others like the camera mod. That is on a 4090/7950X/32GB DDR5 6000 https://youtu.be/xmPqgGERM34 The juddering you see or frame skips when panning the camera is due to youtube's compression. It does not do that in game. The panning is smooth.

[vivid iris]

idk if I even care to do it now, that'll be up to @faint bobcat

I lied, the download points would be nice I guess

[stray grove]

@warm magnet wym its dlss swapper

[warm magnet]

Thats not my dlss swapper

[karmic quest]

@stray grove why are you guys trying to use dlss swapper tho?

[warm magnet]

Need fps

[stray grove]

@karmic quest to update dlss to lastest version? to set the preset i want too

[golden scaffold]

you guys are just coping mega hard

[stray grove]

@warm magnet it wont give you more fps

[karmic quest]

RR forces you into DLSS 4.0

No matter what u do

[golden scaffold]

because it only works in 4.0

[karmic quest]

😭

[warm magnet]

But its frame gen

Right?

[toxic jungle]

thanks for your assistance. it is from the reshqde settings on the screenshot or direcly from tha main setting of the game ?

[golden scaffold]

just stop coping there's no tricks you can do, default is optimal

[karmic quest]

Go from simple to advanced

There you will be able to adjust your monitor peak hdr brightness

[warm magnet]

I will cope as much as I want thank you very much

[faint bobcat]

https://x.com/i/status/2037242826119860715

Febsho (@WholeLottaAura)

@kojimahead only reshade which is worth is renodx

X · Mar 26, 2026, 6:58 PM

[toxic jungle]

all good thanks you :)))))

[thorn grove]

mfw i have to do a work sprint for the next 14 days

cry

[faint bobcat]

Everyone and their grandmother is shilling reno

[karmic quest]

I want a fix that removes the blurrines fron DLSS Quality with RR.. switch from DLAA to DLSS Q fixes it immediately 😭

[faint bobcat]

[golden scaffold]

anyway, I just wanted to mention somebody made the remove annoying bird sound that chirps too often (you know exactly which one I mean)

I saw the mod post earlier but wasn't sure if it's the one, it is is the one i was looking to mod to remove it myself. Huge annoyance removal and QoL I highly recommend

[stray grove]

@karmic quest it does but im pretty sure it force you into preset E and preset E has issue in the game so we force preset D

[karmic quest]

How do you know its applying preset d

[thorn grove]

'fix hdr on crimson desert with renodx' went quite viral on X

[golden scaffold]

RR itself causes that bluriness from what I learned

[stray grove]

@warm magnet no its not it just enable you to replace game dlss.dll with the lastest version available and select which preset you want to force

[golden scaffold]

so 🤷‍♂️

[karmic quest]

Yeah but if I switch to DLAA and back to DLSS quality it again becomes crisp

[stray grove]

and what do you think preset D and E are ?

[golden scaffold]

and is RR still working?

[karmic quest]

Yeah

[golden scaffold]

so you have it fixed?

[warm magnet]

mine doesn't say that mine is a bar that pops up when I press ~ that gives me a lot of frame gen options

[stray grove]

man some of yall need to read a bit 😂

[karmic quest]

For a certain amount of time lol

[golden scaffold]

how long is that time?

[karmic quest]

Not counting the time, but sometimes it's 1hour, sometimes 3

[karmic quest]

You are so pressed, chill out.

[golden scaffold]

ok so to get rid of the blur all we have to do is - open game, switch to DLAA (close menu?) switch back to your DLSS (I use ultra perf) and the blur is gone? (RR is enabled)

[karmic quest]

Yeah for some time that is

[stray grove]

@karmic quest im very chill don't worry 😂

[karmic quest]

Thats what everyone tells when they are biting their desk in anger

[golden scaffold]

will give it a try altho i haven't really noticed the blur mentioned but I've seen complaints about RR causing it

[cold tree]

Someone running a odyssey g6 oled?

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris ```cpp
void OnPresetOff() {
renodx::utils::settings::UpdateSettings({
{"ToneMapType", 0.f},
{"ToneMapPeakNits", 1000.f},
{"ToneMapGameNits", 203.f},
{"SDRBlackCrushFix", 0.f},

  {"ToneMapHueRestore", 10.f},
  {"ToneMapBlowout", 0.f},
  {"ColorGradeStrength", 100.f},

  {"ColorGradeExposure", 1.f},
  {"ColorGradeHighlights", 50.f},
  {"ColorGradeShadows", 50.f},
  {"ColorGradeContrast", 50.f},
  {"ColorGradeSaturation", 50.f},
  {"ColorGradeAdaptationContrast", 50.f},

  {"FxFilmGrainType", 0.f},
  {"FxFilmGrain", 50.f},
  {"FxChromaticAberration", 100.f},
  {"FxLensFlareStrength", 100.f},
  {"FxSharpeningType", 0.f},
  {"FxSharpening", 100.f},

  {"BloomQuality", 0.f},
  {"BloomStrength", 100.f},

  {"LocalLightHueCorrection", 0.f},
  {"LocalLightSaturation", 50.f},

  {"SkyScattering", 0.f},
  {"SunMoonAdjustments", 0.f},
  {"MoonDiskSize", 1.f},
  {"ContactShadowQuality", 0.f},
  {"ShadowQuality", 0.f},
  {"RaytracingQuality", 0.f},
  {"DiffuseBRDF", 0.f},
  {"SmoothTerminator", 0.f},
  {"SpecularAA", 0.f},
  {"Diffraction", 0.f},
  {"DisableVRS", 0.f},
  {"DisableAWB", 0.f},
  {"DisableHeroLights", 0.f},
  {"ImprovedAutoExposure", 0.f},

});
}

[karmic quest]

Well I notice it very easily because it starts smearing like a mf.

[hazy geode]

Did you also get weird textures flying around fire? That's what I'm getting.

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[ruby tusk]

I'm tryna get everyone on it

Even my dog and cats

[vivid iris]

wait is this getting flagged too?

[mortal wolf]

no, just cleaner

[vivid iris]

oh I'm stupid

yeah it is

for the most part my addon.cpp stuff is just "if it aint broke"

[viscid wedge]

you played with the RCAS slider?

[karmic quest]

Yeah I did

Tho I did not adjust by much

Within what I typically would do with DLSS Sharpening

Max 0.2 - 0.3

[hasty onyx]

anyone got a issue with renodx mod not loading up?

[thorn grove]

this is why the game was recieved as bad at launch

[viscid wedge]

yeah swing it further, see if it helps.

[karmic quest]

Well in rcas sharperningcit'd be 20-30

[karmic quest]

You played around with it?

[viscid wedge]

also that dude talking about presets, there is the official DLSS indicator you can enable that'll tell you for sure whats in use.

[karmic quest]

I tried testing pretty much all the Presets in Special K for Crimson Desert, none of them did anything, just made the game feel choppy for some reason.

[viscid wedge]

yeah I was happy enough with it between 50 and 75

[karmic quest]

And it somewhat fixes the smearing?

[viscid wedge]

don't recall exactly what I left it on. it cleaned up both Quality and Balanced for me at 4K

[karmic quest]

Hmm def trying it tomorrow then, ty

[dire pilot]

definitely can't wait until the modding scene is a little more standardized - everything's chaos right now lol

[viscid wedge]

this is the way it is this early.

[karmic quest]

Devs should have made this game with modding in mind

[vivid iris]

damn this looks clean

[karmic quest]

Share your settings bro

[upbeat magnet]

What are you referring to adjusting?

[karmic quest]

RCAS Sharpening

[viscid wedge]

RCAS from within Reno now

[upbeat magnet]

ahhh, gotcha.

[sudden arch]

is there away to inject TAA into crimson desert?

[vivid iris]

uhhh the game already has it? Do you just mean a better one?

[jade flame]

I submitted my report for the DLAA + HDR issue to PA again.
Can't believe the issue STILL isn't on their known issues list.

[sleek veldt]

Max graphics at 4K resolution with RR and then performance DLSS

Blur intensity 5

[dapper lake]

HUH

[sleek veldt]

Depth of Field OFF

[dapper lake]

Performance dlss??

Bro performance looks like vaseline for me what's your output res?

[karmic quest]

4k with also renodx?

[sleek veldt]

4K res

[covert ruin]

what does the blur setting do in this game?

[jade flame]

You 1440p?

[sleek veldt]

With it off I think it's taking away from being a single player game with it on anywhere past 5 I think the game looks like it's smearing

[sleek veldt]

4k res no reno at the moment

[viscid wedge]

at 4K, performance is playable. not necessarily screenshot worthy but I enjoy the 100fps I get with it.

[teal iron]

Question about the auto exposure, would it be possible to just outright disable it, or is the games lighting so cooked it relies on some form of auto exposure?

[viscid wedge]

~~its on a toggle ~~ oh you mean disable AE entirely. well thats a question for @crude marsh but i'm going to guess no

[dapper lake]

Huh balanced and even quality look so much worse from 1440p than 4k perf looks there

[vivid iris]

dlss is way better at 4k in general

1440p I feel like quality mode is the only good option

[dapper lake]

Ive been using preset L perf in a decent amount of games recently

Darktide looks greay with reno and 4.5L

[viscid wedge]

Yeah, just this game relying on RR so heavily, it feels like a step backwards

[dapper lake]

Re9 had boiling issues below dlaa tho

[steady orbit]

Which version of renodx is latest right now. This one from discord pins or one on github site?

[true dagger]

i think lazzor or forge said its completely broken without any Auto Exposure, so u either can choose between teh default one from the devs or the one from reno

[vivid iris]

pins

[sleek veldt]

at 4K balanced is inbetween 1080p and 1440p

[teal iron]

Yeah, improved auto exposure is much better, but just wondering if having it completely disabled might be even better with the right settings

[sleek veldt]

and perf is 1080p

[vivid iris]

the build in here will always be newest, github builds take a long time and lag behind

[sleek veldt]

at 1440 i think perf is 720p???/

[viscid wedge]

yep

[dapper lake]

just a much more dramatic difference than what ive seen before

[teal iron]

Of course, idk why I thought there was even a chance considering everything 😂

[viscid wedge]

I know what the answer is. XeSS where are you 🤣

[sly prism]

this is not available mod yet correct?

[viscid wedge]

been available for almost a week, check the pinned messages

[steady orbit]

You think is this last one? And how upgrade version if tommorow come new version?

[sly prism]

im looking at pinned but i guess im too dumb to see a link to download anything

[true dagger]

you just download the new version if there is one in the future, and replace the one you currently have installed

[vivid iris]

it's definitely not the last build

[true dagger]

its the .addon64

[vivid iris]

you'll just have to check pins in here or the renodx mods wiki snapshot date
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods

[sly prism]

i love you thanks

[steady orbit]

Just copy and replace older one with new one, right?

[sly prism]

bros im serously dumb i cannot find where that is pinned. im brand brand new to this lol

[true dagger]

top right, u gotta open the thread in full view

[vivid iris]

here

[hasty onyx]

Dumb question but can reno mod effect game settings resetting after quitting the game?

[vivid iris]

no

[steady orbit]

For update new version addon64 file old must be deleted or just old replace with new?

[vivid iris]

replace

[steady orbit]

Ok thank you

[viscid wedge]

find it?

[steady orbit]

Is still virus think in this last version?

[hasty onyx]

Sharpening slider not having any effect in game.. weird

[sly prism]

Top right of what exactly?

[hasty onyx]

It worked yesterday

[viscid wedge]

Open in full view

[vivid iris]

Oh I guess this has been bringing in some people too https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3689086818

@faint bobcat

[sly prism]

oh.........

[viscid wedge]

then click the pin at the top

or i guess pins are available in that same three dot menu.. w/e

today, in Discord 101

[faint bobcat]

game uses auto exposure as a lighting solution

"Disabling" it either gets you 1000nit APL exteriors or pitch black voids for interiors

its not , we did lighting

and then added auto exposure on top

its a we did everything with our cranked auto exposure in mind

[sly prism]

thank you sir! or miss!

[faint bobcat]

xitter

steam

discord

we mr worldwide

just missing nexus now

[dapper lake]

okay so after getting dldsr to work - 4k perf is miles better than 1440quality holy

even UP looks a bit better

[dire pilot]

yeah, now that I can see what it's internally rendering at, no matter what I set it at in the app or NVPI, it's always going from 720 to 1440 🙃

[stone comet]

I really hope someone can figure out the instant waypoint teleportation cause its so absurd

[lament nymph]

[viscid wedge]

what about it?

[dapper lake]

dldsr to 4k and run at a lower dlss - looks far better than anything other than DLAA at 1440p at least to my eyes

[stone comet]

teleporting from waypoint to waypoint is instant, but if you step off it does the dumbass animation every time for no reason LOL

[viscid wedge]

oh right, just making sure. so what you're saying is figure out how to block that animation at all times

or skip, rather

[stone comet]

yeah pretty much

[flint moss]

Once u go dldsr 4k perf u can never go 1440 quality again, its massive

[dapper lake]

ive tried it before and the difference hasnt been worth it for me, but here its HUGE

same feel as going to 4.5L for darktide

now if the parralax wasnt blurry id be happy, itll have to stay disabled for now

[sly prism]

do I have downlaod a seperate mod for the renodx file to work properly?

installed latest reshade and tossed the file in bin64, looks worse....

[true dagger]

yea looks way sharper but also feels dogshit too, dropped like 20 fps

[viscid wedge]

is it working? do you get the reshade menu when you hit the Home key?

[sly prism]

yeah

[viscid wedge]

did you run the calibration software and/or set your peak brightness manually in RenoDX?

[sly prism]

i dont see an option though for the file, does it just run automatically?

[viscid wedge]

take a non cropped screenshot

of the reshade menu

[true dagger]

its at the top, near the "About" tab

[viscid wedge]

holy, so many effects

[sly prism]

ohhhh i see it now

something not right my NVDIA FPS counter stuck at 1

was getting around 90 yesterday with standard HDR

[viscid wedge]

classic nvidia overlay. happened to me here and there since it was launched.

restart the game or reboot and its back to normal

what display do you have?

[sly prism]

49" G9 OLED with 4090

[cloud plover]

I've been encountering UI issues with this where it looks like the UI (and menus) are in ultrawide for some reason. Have you had this issue?

[ruby tusk]

You guys aren't playing in 15K tho

[sly prism]

everything looks wrong though, character has weird ghosting effect around him now

[toxic jungle]

is windows 11 better for hdr?

[viscid wedge]

and what is Peak Brightness set to in RenoDX? (at the top)

[sly prism]

400 for this panel

[viscid wedge]

considerably

[supple summit]

Sorry to interrupt but does that error on the left even matter ? Screen taken with DLSS Q, RR, UWQHD on a shitty monitor, needs tweaking.

[sly prism]

feel like its not a lighting problem now but a graphical prob

[dapper lake]

is that via optiscaler? go to ultra performance and watch the image have a shit fit lol

[toxic jungle]

i brielfy tried to search why but i dont really know a l;ot abt it. why is it better?

[viscid wedge]

well I can't read any of that but I also don't see the RenoDX menu

oh, i'm dumb

[supple summit]

which menu ? renodx is on the right side

[viscid wedge]

i was looking for the tab lol

[supple summit]

dw, i brainfart alot

[ruby tusk]

Yeah it is lol and I already tested that, it looks terrible

[shell kiln]

So

Are we not enabling hdr with the new version of the mod?

[supple summit]

i do

[shell kiln]

Or how does it work since I don't see anyway to control the nitd

Nits*

[viscid wedge]

RenoDX is a modification of native HDR, you need it on

[shell kiln]

Right

[azure mauve]

is there any way to stop my pc from detecting this mod as a virus ?

[viscid wedge]

unless you're trying to play in SDR?

[supple summit]

first two sliders on top of the renodx menu, peak nits and game brightness

[shell kiln]

Interesting in the new version I don't see the option

Let me double check something

[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message

[azure mauve]

legend cheers

[supple summit]

maybe switch from simple to advanced ?

[shell kiln]

Nope

[supple summit]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viscid wedge]

is HDR enabled in Windows?

[shell kiln]

All I'm seeing

[sly prism]

hmm.....restarted my comp and now the RenoDx tab is gone lol

[shell kiln]

Advance is the same just more options but no control over the nit brightness

[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message

[viscid wedge]

looks like what SDR people see. probably not enabled in both windows and the game

[supple summit]

switch to advance mode

[restive roost]

seems to be in sdr

[shell kiln]

Oh this has configs for both?

[supple summit]

sdr is not working with renodx afaik

[shell kiln]

Oh nvm

[crude marsh]

SDR works

[supple summit]

thx for clearing that up

[shell kiln]

Cool that there's options for both in here

[viscid wedge]

but you're not going to see a peak brightness slider in SDR, from what I understand

[shell kiln]

But anyway yeah it's likely HDR is off in game

[restive roost]

takes a special kind of broken for reno fix in sdr lol

[shell kiln]

I just didn't think it would affect the config screen

[supple summit]

how so if i may ask ?

[wheat elk]

@rickyrozay88 ur profile pic messed me up for a good sec...

[lucid fog]

@vivid iris discord pinned file is triggering AV again now when downloading, and gets quarantined by windows defender on game launch for wacatac

[shell kiln]

Ahaha I get that a lot but I swear before I even joined this discord I've been using it

[restive roost]

dont know of many games with reno fixes for sdr thats all

[supple summit]

i see, thx

[golden scaffold]

Looks like one of those nexusmods truehdr10 reshade mods

[supple summit]

10 pm ingame

[obsidian locust]

Nah, that wouldn't cause that.
RenoDX is probably just not detecting your display is HDR capable.
Don't think it actually checks the correct monitor if you have it running on a secondary display.

[flint moss]

sorry, never had that happen before

[supple summit]

Is that effect on the rocks on the right that looks totally out of place the result of my tweaking ?

don't mind the slight fisheye view

[viscid wedge]

your game directory must not be in the exclusion list

[supple summit]

i personally use kaspersky and it doesn't trigger it

[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message

[vivid iris]

Sometimes the color space detection bugs, just switch hdr off and on again in game

[remote mountain]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/12

Will this interfere with the amazing job of the RenoDX reshade?

[supple summit]

you can use any reshade filter on top of renodx afaik

[jade flame]

Depends if it works with HDR. Many shaders don't.

[supple summit]

but technically you can with wierd results ^^

[remote mountain]

There's an HDR preset so

[lament nymph]

really?

[supple summit]

you are rushing xD

[lament nymph]

[supple summit]

tbh, i find the steam achievements kind of lacking

[lament nymph]

you guys just didn't achieve anything

[supple summit]

we are unworthy oh mighty gigabrain

[dire pilot]

I did this, changed in game resolution to 4k but it's still showing on my stats that it's rendering at 720 to 1440 🤷‍♂️

[mortal wolf]

main menu too hard

[supple summit]

can i use that method with 5070ti when i run dlss q at uwqhd ?

i could try with 1.2 and go dlss balanced

[dapper lake]

i dont know how it would run but nothing physically stopping you

other than if your monitor uses DSC

[supple summit]

i guess

thx anyway

[obsidian locust]

Won't make a difference, it shows those settings whether or not HDR is enabled, it's checking the monitor to see if HDR is enabled.
But likely checking the wrong one.

[viscid wedge]

this seems quite counterintuitive if you're already running Reno

[remote mountain]

I'm legit a pepega have no idea what works with what, trying to check if there's anything else I can do to improve the graphics. Thx for lmk I'll avoid using it then ^^

[golden scaffold]

does the new version of camera mod crashes on start and does nothing for anyone else?

[remote mountain]

Was about to install this lmao thx for lmk

[golden scaffold]

uh idk maybe its something on my end? it was working fine for now

i mean the .bat doesn't work

[viscid wedge]

you have all the color grading options you want in Reno already, plus great auto exposure fixes

[remote mountain]

Not too good with setting up the color gradings myself. Feel like I'll prob do a worse job than someone who's already doen it yk

[supple summit]

yes, syntax error, i switched to a different mod that works even better for my needs, https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/165

[golden scaffold]

this version from yesterday still works

[supple summit]

just tweak one setting after another and decide what looks best for your eyes

[azure aspen]

i have 2 monitors, the first (for work) with hdr disabled, the second (for gaming) with hdr enabled, no issues with renodx

[supple summit]

i tried the last 3 versions and after the latest patch ingame none work for me atleast

[golden scaffold]

oh shit

[supple summit]

besides the other mod

it is what it is i guess

hasn't updated since 3 days, maybe over the coming weekend

[golden scaffold]

but i want the camera to be closer and lower, this only zooms out?

[supple summit]

nahh, it also has different zoom stages like vanilla but also more zoomed out ones on top .

[karmic quest]

He fr is rushing. I'm just farming gear and materials and im in Chap 4 with 40hrs and dont plan to continue main story yet 🤣

[obsidian locust]

Probably shouldn't do that if your monitor is VRR.
Reflex uses the primary monitor's refresh, it'll limit your secondary monitor's framerate to the refresh rate of the primary.

[supple summit]

only if it can match it, otherwise the lower refresh rate is chosen, right ?

[viscid wedge]

Windows treating HDMI like a second class citizen. My C2 is HDMI only (obviously) but no matter what you do, even if its set as the primary in Windows, its labeled "2" in windows when my secondary is plugged in. I run them both at 120hz to minimize issues.

[golden scaffold]

works just fine

using camera preset 5

[azure aspen]

the first monitor is 120 Hz no hdr, the second monitor is 240 Hz hdr, no issues, I'm not using reflex, no issues with renodx

[obsidian locust]

Yeah, that's not going to work correctly.
Reflex will always limit your framerate to 116 FPS.

NVIDIA assumes games are always running on the primary monitor, and that winds up being the framerate limit used in any Reflex game.

The limit would be 224 FPS if your secondary monitor were set to primary instead.

[viscid wedge]

primary according to the Windows setting, correct? Not that arbitrary numbering given to each display?

[violet cobalt]

tf did we hug optiscaler website

[vivid iris]

It works every time for me

[viscid wedge]

you mean github? No its fine https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler

[vivid iris]

Code checks on swapchain initialization

[lament nymph]

at this rate I may finish the game without being able to ride the cloudkart ... when will they patch the fix in

[violet cobalt]

yeah I figured they would have a github, first google result was their own domain though I think, but didn't open here

lol

[azure aspen]

it's working as intended, 240 Hz on the second screen,
maybe reflex would limit that, idk, I'm not using reflex

[supple summit]

i'd rather haven them fixing my sleeping issues. no sleep useable for 40+ ingame days now , stopped working after chapter 2 . ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet cobalt]

XD

[obsidian locust]

Yes, primary according to Windows.
Primary monitor is technically the monitor with the coordinates (0,0) on the desktop.
Changing the primary monitor in Windows settings just moves the monitors around to put the one that's primary at (0,0).

[violet cobalt]

was just seeing that

damn

I should stop getting high before trying to do things that require at least 5 braincells

thanks for the lookout

[obsidian locust]

Okay, well if that happens to you in the future, hopefully you'll understand why now 🙂
If Reflex is set to Low Latency and VSYNC is on, it's going to use your primary monitor's refresh rate, and you may lose your mind trying to figure out why the game won't go above 116 FPS 😕

[viscid wedge]

Got it. Yeah I was just lamenting on how HDMI connected displays (like my primary C2) always seem to play second fiddle as soon as you connect anything with DisplayPort in regards to that number they're given. Also fun when half the time things like my boot animation and BIOS open on my secondary vertical DP monitor. Have to remember to unplug it if I want to guarantee it shows up on my primary display.

[supple summit]

i prefer that more widened view when exploring 😉

[violet cobalt]

you tried optiscaler? worked well for ya?

[obsidian locust]

I don't know how the BIOS determines things in that case, it seems pretty unpredictable 🙂
I have 4 monitors, 2 of them are in different rooms connected by fiber-optic USB/HDMI. There's a good chance that during boot up, nothing will show up on the monitors in the same room as me.

[viscid wedge]

Nope. Downloaded and didn't feel like reading about what to do. Game runs well enough for me as it is.

[viscid wedge]

Ah so you know the struggle even more so lol.

[dire pilot]

god I wasted like 2 hours tonight fiddling with stuff that didn't work - I have a whole new appreciation for you guys lol

[lament nymph]

I'm glad I'm not a tweaker

[dire pilot]

I was trying to get dldsr to work but all it did was fuck up my monitor lol

and then I forgot that I left CD in 4K so when I lauched, it would try to launch in a resolution my monitor didn't like so I couldn't do anything lol

[viscid wedge]

I don't like that its a global setting

but screw it i'm enabling it and we'll see what happens

[dire pilot]

yeah, same, I hate that it's a global setting

[viscid wedge]

alright well, after a scary black screen we have the new option

[eager epoch]

Basically it is a kind of a fake psydo-supersampling that surprisingly works well for this game, at-least for me (im on 1440p). What it does is taking the upscaling resolution say I choose to play DLSS Q on a 1440p is like 960p than it takes this 960p upscales it to 8K (7680 x 4320) than fit it into my mon res 1440p which results in a clear sharp image and mitigate motion blur completely and it looks subjectivly identical to DLAA (again thats for me, I made before after screenshot and it looks the same). Now when I run the tree and mountain in the distance looks as if Im standing static as intended. I’m probably coping with a 5090 lol that its all fake and shit but hey DLSS and GF are also fake

[subtle sinew]

DLDSR definitely looks better than native if you drop DLSS to the same performance but it's not a big difference

[cold tree]

Truly unbelievable, I wish I could play DLAA damn man

[viscid wedge]

if this lets me run Performance DLSS and still look good i'll be happy

[subtle sinew]

yeah I'm using performance with 4k at 1.78 DLDSR

[plain fractal]

This sounds interesting, could you share your settings with me?

[dire pilot]

yeah I also dropped it because it absolutely murdered my performance

[cold tree]

DLSS is fucked right now correct? Quality looks like horseshit

[viscid wedge]

ok I was going to ask if it was worth it to try 2.25

[subtle sinew]

It's just a little tiny bit worse than 4k quality

[true dagger]

yea same, looked sharper like it rly looked good but im not taking a 20 fps hit and it feels like shit to play

[subtle sinew]

probably not lol unless you wanna test ultra performance

[viscid wedge]

I'll skip that for now lol

this game is making my 4090 cry as it is

[subtle sinew]

also I think the cnn frame gen model looks better than mfg

seems more stable so far

[eager epoch]

Thats all

[plain fractal]

Thanks!!

[eager epoch]

Very heavy on performance

[cold tree]

Like I heard all DLSS options should actually be looking better

[eager epoch]

DLSS Q for me looks blurry

Especially during motion

[plain fractal]

Thats probably because DLSS is placed in the wrong position in the render pipeline

Upscaling also heavily affects reflections etc.

[supple summit]

dlss is broken atm

[pastel sparrow]

Im playing with 2.25 with DLSS Quality and its look better than 4k

[cold tree]

Same

[subtle sinew]

this game is real blurry even without dlss
so much heavy use of dithering

[viscid wedge]

alright well its already not working as I don't have 5120x2880 available in game (it is in Windows)

[subtle sinew]

maybe you're not on fullscreen?

[viscid wedge]

yeah I dunno, not worried about it though I was happy enough before

[eager epoch]

DLAA is no go cuz of black bars on 50’s series so opti is the temp solution I found

[subtle sinew]

could always just set it as the desktop resolution and it'll work for sure

[viscid wedge]

was hoping to avoid that, as then I'd need to mess with scaling no?

[subtle sinew]

you would just have to turn it on/off whenever you're not intending to use it

it'll always make text look bad

[viscid wedge]

Yeah thats a no for me then. I don't want to deal with that

[vivid iris]

To play it safe I’ll add a manual switch that’s automatically set based on this detection

[plain fractal]

Using FSR native AA and switching to DLSS (so basically DLAA) via optiscaler seems to remove the black flickering bar

[subtle sinew]

you probably just need to restart your game
it works for me without having to set it as the desktop resolution

[languid sleet]

Hey, if anyone else has really bad ABL when using the mod, I really recommend looking up EOTF_Boost and adding it to reshade so you can use it with Reno, it helps a lot. Here's a before and after

[cold tree]

I’m doing dldsr 4K on my qhd monitor, performance dlss. Better than qhd quality but meh

[cold tree]

RR compatible?

[raven bloom]

I'm getting this error since today for some reason:

20:10:50:720 [39252] | ERROR | Failed to load add-on from 'G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Crimson Desert\bin64.\renodx-crimsondesert.addon64' with error code 225!

It used to work fine before . I'm using the one in the pin

[viscid wedge]

how are you showing ABL in a screenshot? lmao

[cold tree]

Antivirus deleted it

I think new version fixes that?

[languid sleet]

I'm not but it helps with the darkness issues

[vivid ember]

reshade isnt seeing the pinned file. pretty sure i have it in the right place. am i a ding dong?

[raven bloom]

It's the newest version. I don't have an anti virus running rn

[bitter hornet]

what is ABL?

[subtle sinew]

you're a bing bong
see if you have the reshade with addon support and not the normal reshade

[raven bloom]

I can confirm that the file gets deleted after I boot the game - though.

[vivid ember]

haha yes confirmed

[molten kiln]

Are you sure ? I tried yesterday and didn't worked

[subtle sinew]

If that didn't work maybe check the addon tab that it's checked on 🤔

[languid sleet]

automatic brightness limitation, i have a problem when i use reno that it's still way too dark and was told that's what's causing it

[plain fractal]

I have not tested this but probably yes

[viscid wedge]

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled-dimming-confusion-apl-abl-asbl-tpc-and-gsr-explained

[novel jay]

Automatic brightness limiter. Oled panels will lower brightness when a large percentage of the screen is showing a bright shot. For example looking at a bright sky may trigger ABL depending on your monitor or Tv. Newer brighter Tvs dont have as much of an issue with this. This cannot be shown in screenshots.

[plain fractal]

I got no black flickering bar on top of my screen after playing for some time but I did get a large black artifact when placing the flag thing in the camp

So its probably not 100% fixed

[eager epoch]

Why there is a dot after bin64

[lament nymph]

I can't believe digital foundry would hide that dlss is broken from us

[vivid ember]

ah now we're cooking

[plain fractal]

There is a small performance hit but it looks surprisingly good ✅

[bitter hornet]

Those are some fancy words huh

[raven bloom]

good question. I'll the path

[steel wolf]

Pushing P5 cut my fps by like 40% and added 15ms of latency brinign me up to 20 from 5. Doing just the full pass maybe added a half a ms, so probably will keep that. Not sure if it looks better or not haha. Compression in this game isnt too bad compared to like AC Shadows or KCD2 for me

Are you talking about moonlight settings?

[upbeat magnet]

DAMN. Those are huge hits.

[raven bloom]

It was windows defende ha

[steel wolf]

do you have like a second GPU doing the encoding? I have a 5090 so i dont think it gets much ebtter lol

[raven bloom]

I'm encoding fine 1440p. 7ms host processing and 1ms on the client. 4070

[sleek veldt]

is anyone else experiencing screen tearing?

I want to know if I just started noticing

or if I need to figure out what happen

[upbeat magnet]

I don’t actually, I’m using a 4090. That’s a wild difference in performance. I can maintain a stable 85fps on p5, I experimented last night with p4 and it was actually not very discernible visibly compared to p5, but it cut latency further

[steel wolf]

have you tried P1?

[upbeat magnet]

P4 did give me roughly ~100fps stable.

I didn’t get a chance to test P1, but I can this evening

[raven bloom]

I use P1 and it's flawless for me

[steel wolf]

I'm doing 120fps although using 3x FG at 4k 120 with RR

[upbeat magnet]

I had been fucking with it when arc raiders came out and I had been running p1 but colors were so washed out and I swapped to p5 and it was a massive difference at the time

[cold tree]

GOAT

[upbeat magnet]

Yeah I’m on x2

I need to figure out the dlss swap to x3, haven’t tried it yet

Or are you just forcing via nvidia?

[vivid ember]

these look ok for my 1000 nit monitor?

[upbeat magnet]

Settings in game need to be default with reno

Besides UI

[molten kiln]

Yeah, I got the large black artifact in some other places too

[viscid wedge]

that will never work through a screenshot, but what monitor do you have? Also the in-game settings (other than UI brightness) don't work when using Reno. You can (and shoudl) just run the HDR calibration tool first. Reno will pull from that.

[supple summit]

I have a new friend ^^

[vivid ember]

thank you for the info. I have an AW2725D. game looks great on my LG C1 but that has a peak brightness of over 2000 nits. washed out color and very low brigthness led me here

[sleek veldt]

Would Gsync cause my screen tear?

[vivid ember]

i've got hdr calibrated using the windows tool, using the peak 1000 hdr setting on the monitor

[steel wolf]

nah 5090 just supports 3x/4x out of the box. I just force latest dlss based in nvidia app

at 80fps though it might not be worth it

[supple summit]

that dam nwindows tool defaults for me with any system reboot, i have to recalibrate everytime i start my pc :/

[novel jay]

unless you like a bright ui, I recommend turning that down to 50 or below.

[supple summit]

such an annoyance

[steel wolf]

imo framegen you want your base fps to be at least 60

[bitter hornet]

is it me or dos this image look kinda blurry?

[upbeat magnet]

Just a note as well, learning as we speak that Apollo only supports 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, and AV1 albeit having better details also does not do 4:4:4 under any circumstance right now. HEVC can do HDR, 4:4:4 chroma subsampling (via sunshine, not Apollo).

[supple summit]

it does for all of us

[upbeat magnet]

Yeah kinda my thought which is why I haven’t gone down that rabbit hole yet haha

[vivid ember]

i've got game brightness maxed and still have many other games look so much brighter on the same setup

[viscid wedge]

Your LG C1 is 700-800nits, not 1000 (10% window). I don't know about AW2725D but AW2725DW is ~450.

[vivid ember]

ah i misspoke, yes thank you

[sleek veldt]

Turning off GSync fixed it

[viscid wedge]

if this is the alienware, peak shouldn't be set to 1000

[upbeat magnet]

The problem is that the QoL of virtual display in headless mode in Apollo just matches refresh rate and resolution requested by the client, and it recognizes your client independent of your primary monitor allowing you to manually calibrate hdr for the client rather than being reliant on the monitor connected to your pc

[hazy geode]

Auto exposure on vs. off and settings. Is the intended look of this mod to not see the rocks in the back? Anything I can do to improve this?

[novel jay]

yea its suppose to be dark. turn dark power up to 100 if you want it to be brighter

[hazy geode]

Okay I figured haha

[forest elk]

thank you for dark power tip! I wanted nights to be darker but not THAT dark lol I cant see shit

[novel jay]

turning exposure up will blow out certain day scenes. try to leave it at default if you can

[forest elk]

should I use all default? I picked Recommended preset and 1.10 exposure in color grading, is it optimal?

[hazy geode]

I believe color grading is preference. I was messing with exposure as other people with my same monitor had increased it a bit. Was messing around with it before

[novel jay]

yea you can turn it up if it helps

[hazy geode]

But yeah I try not to stray too far from default for color grading

[plain fractal]

Are you guys using the default 33% smooting for DLDSR?

[lament nymph]

oongka is pretty hot ngl

[lucid thorn]

Did the update today change anything or just av change?

[lament nymph]

there was an update?

[lucid thorn]

Well av update in pins

I dunno if it did anything extra

[warm scroll]

ah! I was wondering why windows defender kept saying wacatac detected

[vivid ember]

got it. anything else i should be doing to get a brighter more saturated image?

tysm for this btw, very helpful

[viscid wedge]

maybe play with the exposure and saturation settings in Reno?

[vivid ember]

Yeah, these are the settings ive landed at that give me a decent picture

[sudden arch]

force chromatic aberation, i havent found way to disable it

[flat bear]

u can with reno

just put the slider to 0

[viscid wedge]

0 is the default now too

[bitter hornet]

disabled on reno already

[worldly swan]

Holy shit I thought I was crazy

[daring orbit]

Man i think nights are about perfect now

Playable, but you want to use your lantern

[ivory bough]

what kind of cable are you using? Is it HDMI over fiber, or just a "standard" HDMI cable that has fiber inside? When you mention USB/HDMI, do you mean both HDMI and USB signals travel through the same cable?

I'm asking because I'm planning to run fiber from my PC in the office to the TV in the living room. From what I've seen the best approach seems to be a dedicated fiber cable with HDMI ends, plus a separate Ethernet cable with a USB-over-Ethernet hub but maybe theres a better way to do it

[fringe mountain]

Any way to get a middle ground between Alternate auto exposure on and off? On is too dark and off is too bright

[fresh field]

maybe turn down exposure contrast some?

[viscid wedge]

have you played with this?

[fringe mountain]

contrast makes a decent difference, will have to see how it looks in the day

yea darkpower didnt do too much

On vs off lmao

[lament nymph]

so far demeniss is the prettiest country

[golden scaffold]

What's this darkpower ya'll raving about?

[subtle sinew]

https://klipy.com/gifs/black-power-black-power-fist

[subtle sinew]

damn I think DLDSR has issues with DOF

[golden scaffold]

Oh we got the nights exposure boost? Is this a new version of the mod?

[barren pasture]

yes, it brigtens up a bit dark areas

but you still need lantern to see shit at night

[golden scaffold]

They do need a bit of a boost. I've been running a separate Reno profile for nights, it really was too dark

[subtle sinew]

4k DLSS quality vs DLDSR 1.78x DLSS Performance :(
this is an issue with RR Preset E you have to change it to D
it fixes itself when you disable DOF

[jade flame]

That's crazy.

I should try FG again with DoF off. Maybe it won't look like total ass too. 🤔

[barren pasture]

there is just not enough light sources in the game

and they are not strong enough, thats dev mistake

[golden scaffold]

Even with the light boost mod?

[subtle sinew]

yeah it just sucks cuz it'll probably mess with the look of cutscenes if you disable dof

[jade flame]

If only it had Low/Med/High for RT like every other RT game.....

[barren pasture]

havent used and will not. There is no point in reno otherwise

[jade flame]

Yeah. Wish games would separate the two instead of one global DoF....

[golden scaffold]

Well they are relying on their Nuclear Exposure technology ™

Which got removed, so

[ancient island]

That happened to me with the autoexposure fix in the mod and no RR in game.

[barren pasture]

you could also just disable improved autoexposure and get nuclear nights lmao

[subtle sinew]

wait maybe it's not DLDSR idk what's happening it may just be an issue with DOF

[golden scaffold]

I've seen recommendations to keep post processing and even volumetric clouds to medium/minimum.

Post processing at medium gives you lens flares back that's all I know

But other than that they seem to be causing more issues than good idk

[barren pasture]

why you need that shit?

lens flares are horrible in this game

[golden scaffold]

Lens flares? It's actually part of gameplay this time

[barren pasture]

shit...

[golden scaffold]

[barren pasture]

i disabled this beach as a first thing

[golden scaffold]

You forgot these devs really love their JJ Abrams slopium ever since BDO

[subtle sinew]

I'm so confused I changed the post processing to medium then each step back up to cinematic and it fixed itself?

[barren pasture]

that shit is umplayable imo, needs some more marinating

[subtle sinew]

this game is so busted

[golden scaffold]

Yeah something is fucked up Slop Code ™

[subtle sinew]

seriously

also funny seeing the repeating background menu texture tiles change with the resolution

[barren pasture]

reno fixes the visuals, but makes it umplayable, because game is not meant to be with good visuals. its meant to be slop on slop on slop

[barren pasture]

[ancient island]

If only they fixed dlss I could use RR and get rid of the noisy interiors/reflections

[barren pasture]

but tbh, more people should report to devs

[lament nymph]

am I the only that actually playing the game instead of trying to fix what's unfixable

[barren pasture]

nothing will change if everyone keeps whining in some HDR cultist discord

[ancient island]

I play, when I'm not playing I check this chat

[jade flame]

I'm just playing with stock lighting + Reno for the most part (+ fire red fix)

[lament nymph]

reno is all I need, I'm not messing with other things

[jade flame]

https://tenor.com/view/brotherhood-gif-22994469

[barren pasture]

but you even dont like the game

[subtle sinew]

camera and buttons are pretty bad so they're worth fixing

[golden scaffold]

I mean it's about time these devs get properly shit on for the slop they're peddling. BDO players have been enduring this for 10 years and nobody cared about it. Now they've gone mainstream and are getting properly treated for how their trash coding and design decisions

[viscid wedge]

my only mod is reno.. just playing the game (I just don't have as much time as you lol)

[lament nymph]

has to make it looks palatable otherwise the hate would be more

[jade flame]

I just want horse camera fix.

[lament nymph]

I want ... the balloon fix cause I can't even summon mine

[ancient island]

And the inventory is still so obtuse

It needs a revamp

[barren pasture]

see ya in 2 years 😄

[subtle sinew]

the on foot camera is the worst imo lol
It's like you're controlling kliff with a drone

[jade flame]

I've been playing RPGs since the 90's. This is nothing compared to RPGs in PS2 era.

[lament nymph]

idk man, I've been playing rpgs since the 90s, unless ur playing legend of dragoon

there has been almost no inventory issue ... maybe suikoden 2?

[barren pasture]

welp, i was -10 in 1990

[subtle sinew]

inventory is fine it gives you an incentive to do quests and not hoard items

[barren pasture]

couldnt play or see

[jade flame]

I've played that. ^^
I mean... Diablo has more inventory management than this game. Just use the irem grouping and it becomes a lot better.

[lament nymph]

diablo inventory management is part of its gameplay loop

this game, inventory is a pain, also it caps out at 240

on both the storage and your inven

[barren pasture]

you should try no mans sky

[lament nymph]

it would be alright if your storage can grow indefinitely

but a cap? x.x that's stupid

since there are quests items u can't sell or throw away

[barren pasture]

probably it was some kind of technical reason

[lament nymph]

and they keep stacking

[golden scaffold]

It's as if they were planning to give you storage options across multiple towns like in BDO but they kinda forgot it's not an mmo anymore? Just guessing

[barren pasture]

like why in minecraft stack is 64

[jade flame]

Might get more annoying when I get enough stuff to fill storage. But honestly I sell crap left & right so far.

[lament nymph]

I'm getting to that point of no return

since merc missions they throw shits into ur storage

all your unique gears take space

then there's the quest items that aren't discardable or sellable

the ones that can be disposed of I already did and it's tight

[jade flame]

Yeah. That part is a little weird. ngl

[lament nymph]

I'm getting to that point, I hope they fix the inventory soon

[dapper lake]

the reno peak brightness is 10% right? according to rting my 10% is 476 but my 2% is 1045 lol so would be useful to know

[subtle sinew]

should be what your monitor clips at

[lucid thorn]

I think you can put them in storage

[lament nymph]

the cap is 240 for both so u get 480

in total

[dapper lake]

they dont take inv slots

[lucid thorn]

Oh

I noticed can put abyss stuff in there too

[dapper lake]

at least the ones ive checked with maybe some do

[lament nymph]

everything takes inv slots

[dapper lake]

so aye just the same as the 10% window in windows calibration then?

[dapper lake]

defo some purples that dont icr what they were

[lament nymph]

I have some usable purple

they definitely take inven space