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[lucid thorn]

Sounds like forge, forge seems smart

That's a lovely meme tho

[naive jackal]

@golden scaffold That's like that guy FrogboyX1gaming, always used to say AMD had better colour production than Nvidia when he showed his settings in AMDs app saturation was cranked all the way to the right lol

[lucid thorn]

Technically that's better colours!

They're not right, but there are more of them

[golden scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

[lucid thorn]

That's also how a lot of folks play tarkov

[nova cargo]

is that not just a shadowmap used for distant shadows

[faint bobcat]

no becuase they have seperate ones

I am in the town right now

this is what it looks like

the distant ones are 2048

[nova cargo]

all ac games

[teal pumice]

all ubisoft games

[crude marsh]

time to batch modify all of the hard coded LODs

[sly vigil]

I just bought more LOD directly from Pearl Abyss

[hardy owl]

Will that help Shadows LOD as well?

[daring orbit]

Omg thank god

[hardy owl]

Please tell me that shadows will render at good quality more than five meters away

[crude marsh]

the only slight issue is if this works it would be like.... idk 50GB of data

[stone comet]

LMAO?

[fleet jacinth]

as if that matters! give me

[hardy owl]

I don't care. Give it to me

[stone comet]

id honestly download that if itd help a substantial amount anyways

[final imp]

Please my eyes are tired

[stone comet]

feel like a lot of people would

[true dagger]

notice how they fixed the rr shadows clipping through walls the moment forge found it. they might be in here just waiting for you guys to fix all the stuff and then release a patch

[crude marsh]

well, lets find out

[stone comet]

they did improve a shit ton in just like 4 days?

[tame igloo]

btw the camera mod is borked atm. The OP packaged their 1.2 version in the last few updates.

[daring orbit]

Having run dyndolod 5 million times, i knew this would happen

[stone comet]

obviously it wouldve been ideal on launch but yknow

[daring orbit]

Once we get an upscaled texture mod im going to need a new drive

[crude marsh]

also I think what I am modifying is different from trees but

one thing at a time

[daring orbit]

Tree lods are like, redfall bad

[jade spruce]

Don't forget lilium shaders

[crude marsh]

when I tried modifying all the trees before they refused to render correctly

[lucid thorn]

Shadows today, small item lod tomorrow?

[hardy owl]

I am happy with shadows and trees. Ideally more stuff would be better but those two things are needed so badly

[tame igloo]

that's what gb internet is for, duh

[crude marsh]

well, the buildings are also all pretty abysmal

and the cliffs

and rocks

[lucid thorn]

I was about to ask, any way we could increase the distance on the Picasso towns

[crude marsh]

that is what I am currently trying

[lucid thorn]

I think I owe you a beer if you get it working :p

[lament nymph]

shadows are crawling like spiders

[crude marsh]

from what forge said

bad shadows kind of baked in to a degree

[eager epoch]

Any improvement even slight is very appreciated. I’ll gladly download

[jade spruce]

I think I once made a yes honey meme for dyndolod or grass cache.

[crude marsh]

what is dyndolod

[lucid thorn]

I think oblivion used it for lods

[jade spruce]

Lod generation tool for skyrim

[lucid thorn]

Maybe skyrim too

[hardy owl]

Yep. And you
have to get up close to get decent quality otherwise they flicker and have jagged edges. Its ridiculous that this happens even in cinematic

[jade spruce]

All creation engine games actually

[lucid thorn]

Yeah that

[crude marsh]

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[daring orbit]

Yeah and it makes 100 times better than this game

[jade spruce]

Why?

[crude marsh]

what do you mean

why

[lucid thorn]

He's patching

[jade spruce]

Logs

[crude marsh]

the LODs are hard coded into every single asset

[jade spruce]

[crude marsh]

I am showing how much is modified

[jade spruce]

[hardy owl]

Is that normal procedure or are the developers stupid?

[jade kettle]

yes

[tame igloo]

indeed

[daring orbit]

Oh yikes

[crude marsh]

typically there are external scalers for them

or they are baked into streaming volumes

[daring orbit]

This game isnt really going be as easy to mod i guess

[crude marsh]

I doubt that changing graphics settings really changes any LODs

[lucid thorn]

Yeah probably not

[daring orbit]

Oh well

[lucid thorn]

Lemme know if you get it working I'll help test :p

[hardy owl]

So it doesnt matter if I play in cinematic or lowest settings. Makes sense

[daring orbit]

Am i tripping or are these textures like, really low res?

Like in the whole game

[worldly vapor]

game uses like 6gb vram on 1440p

should tell u enough

[daring orbit]

Oh yea

[lucid thorn]

That said

They look muddy when there's no direct light

Not sure if that's what you mean

Like when weather is cloud covered the game looks worse

[daring orbit]

Getting rid of POM definitely helps

[worldly vapor]

tbh i dont mind not having the highest res textures upclose

but the lod and draw distance throws me off

the terrain from the distance looks so damn blurry and low res

[daring orbit]

Yea

[solar bone]

going indoors makes me wanna throw up

[crude marsh]

well, something changed but seems like unexpected behavior

time to set LOD 0 distance to 999999

[lucid thorn]

👀

[solar bone]

gofundme for new pc soon?

[hardy owl]

Same here. Seeing things pop in out of existence is jarring. Hell even RDR2 which came out almost 8 years ago didn't have these problems. Or any other recent open world

[worldly vapor]

to be fair RDR2 is way ahead of its time

and still has one of the best LoD and drawdistance

[solar bone]

It's not that good

[daring orbit]

Im going say

[stone comet]

and to be fair this studio has legit one game under their belt realistically

[daring orbit]

I definitely remember not so great tree lods

[faint bobcat]

shadowmaps are fucked at source, needs engine tweak or force via reshadeAPI similar to what Miru showed with SRV upgrades

but we need to understand how it all works and DX12 is ass to work with for such things

[stone comet]

and thats from over a decade ago

LOL

[worldly vapor]

idk man looks good to me

[lament nymph]

same looks good to me

[worldly vapor]

sadly couldnt find better example

delicious noise

[true dagger]

i remember i could simply run RDR2 all low settings except textures on Ultra and it still looked amazing with great performance

[faint bobcat]

what a trillion dollars in deving and 180hr work week crunch does to a mf

[worldly vapor]

[crude marsh]

well, seems like a minor improvement but.... yeah

[lucid thorn]

D:

[crude marsh]

need a different time of day for more exact

but you can see several details on the right that you can't on the left

its not really significantly better though

sigh

I guess I also have to modify all of the meshes

[faint bobcat]

50Geeeegabtyes

for 0.5% improve

we're soo back

you see

Pearl is smart

they optimsied

[jade kettle]

it would be interesting to try in the first village. the little grass and stones on the village floor dissappears at 2 meters. im not sure if thats LOD or not though

[crude marsh]

that is procedurally generated bullshit apparently

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO INCREASE DRAW DISTANCES

[lucid thorn]

Your unpacker is on nexus right?

[crude marsh]

yeah

[faint bobcat]

they specfically made it difficult for malding purposes

[crude marsh]

BRO

[faint bobcat]

thats proc gen assets

[crude marsh]

all of the attributes

[jade kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-26508907

[faint bobcat]

they randomly add twigs to the area

[mortal wolf]

[crude marsh]

all of the attributes down to things like player health

have a custom memory hashing system

on top of denuvo

[faint bobcat]

based

I would do the same

[crude marsh]

inside of their tables

[faint bobcat]

stop those pirates

stop those modders

[crude marsh]

they have min and max hashes for EVERY attribute

[faint bobcat]

from destorying my VisionTM

[ocean onyx]

no fucking way, seriously?

[tame igloo]

why I just turn that shit off 😄

[lucid thorn]

before I take a look, behold

[faint bobcat]

they dont have a flag to say "uhh lets not spawn random twigs in a manor bedroom"

[ocean onyx]

what were they doing for 10 years

[faint bobcat]

its just proc gens random twigs and pebbles

everywhere

[fleet jacinth]

the foiliage setting controls that

[crude marsh]

that is such a decision

[fleet jacinth]

i think it turns off at high or medium or whatever it was

[grim pewter]

The reports on toxic positivity seem to indicate a lot of dysfunction at the studio coming from the top down

[lucid thorn]

I have noticed that its only on what, high or ultra or above yeah

[ivory sapphire]

can someone inspect any settlement in their map for me. Mine keeps crashing after the update

[daring orbit]

Thats pretty good to me

[fleet jacinth]

i dont know why the higher settings put random rocks everywhere that magically pops in 5 meters away

7 years of optimization

[faint bobcat]

Studio was swamped by issues

so we get slop

This is why you only hire U+ and RenoDX

[stone comet]

same shit happened with projekt red

[crude marsh]

I miss UE

[stone comet]

they got cucked and game suffered

[faint bobcat]

constantly rebuilding Red4

whole thing was a convoluted mess by the end

[crude marsh]

I should make next gen versions of UE U+ that just absolutely shittify the game for performance and make it look like CD

people will love it

[viscid wedge]

I have no issue ruining performance on my own with U+ 😆 (my fault, so many knobs)

[crude marsh]

just click the two presets and be happy

[mortal wolf]

@faint bobcat after seeing this is the llvm structure, i'm not even sure if mismatching the flow is "worse"

[crude marsh]

anyways off to try modifying all of the games meshes to change LODs that way....

[faint bobcat]

Is this a 'their' issue

its just PS5 and AMD code stuff?

why is it such a struggle for decmp

[mortal wolf]

because it's a mess of branching

there's gotos in the code, essentially

[smoky sigil]

for some reason i can't force dlss to 75% with rr at least

[mortal wolf]

hence i had to take a step back and plan the whole control flow first

[smoky sigil]

even through nvidia inspector

[faint bobcat]

This game really is a PITA on all fronts

[mortal wolf]

i added a mermaid output to decomp, which probably good for our stuff, though i don't think i code this horribly with branches

[fleet jacinth]

i swear you guys are just making stuff up

mermaid output huh

[crude marsh]

mermaid is nice

[golden scaffold]

you guys think Ultra+ can do something for this game or is this too far fetched

[fleet jacinth]

in reality nothing is being done and its all just been a reshade preset

[crude marsh]

what do you think I have been trying to do

I mean I did release a modding tool that the community is using so

there is that

[golden scaffold]

just noticed your flair lmao

[stone comet]

unironically same

[faint bobcat]

You know about Mcdonalds Boytoy

or Temrite Spleen

or Mewtwo

Pisswise

Renderp Ass

[golden scaffold]

it's true

tonesniffer is my favoruite one. still don't know what it does

[faint bobcat]

[golden scaffold]

you forgot Trashformer

[faint bobcat]

AyyyMD finecrimeTM

[ocean onyx]

copyright to me for that one

trashformer that is

slop reconstruction

[golden scaffold]

first time hearing about mermaid output tho

[vivid iris]

As a heads up, virus total also hates this build. It's a false positive as always and the code is available to review. https://github.com/OopyDoopy/renodx/tree/main/src/games/crimsondesert

Defaults have changed, make sure to reset your settings

• add some of the rendering features that are ready thanks to @faint bobcat
• proper mid gray adjustment for psychov
• change how contrast/saturation are applied, new defaults as a result
• add graphics preset buttons
• add colors to the UI
• fix sharpening when in SDR or using FSR framegen
• add color grading sliders to SDR

known issues

• vanilla preset button sets the wrong flame saturation value, should be 50 (whoops)

[crude marsh]

mermaid is just for diagrams and flowcharts

[golden scaffold]

does this include the autoexposure fix?

[vivid iris]

no

Soon™

[golden scaffold]

when?

[crude marsh]

"some of the rendering features"

[vivid iris]

no more information could possibly be needed

[crude marsh]

[rough granite]

Nintendo Patch style

[crude marsh]

lets see what they are

[crude marsh]

based

[golden scaffold]

"various performance improvements and fixes" - Sony with a 5GB ps5 firmware update

[rough granite]

probably just put all % to 0 and no more gen proc popin issues, if there is nothing to pop

[golden scaffold]

smooth.. terminator? 😂

flame hue.. i'm dying

[faint bobcat]

set all 50k assets the game has to 9999999 draw distance

[faint bobcat]

I can just undraw the shader

to stop it

[rough granite]

why they couldnt add a property DrawDistance

[faint bobcat]

because

its not fun that way

[lucid thorn]

Equally I wanna know why foilage density seemingly turns off the proc gen

[crude marsh]

ok but I just did this

[lucid thorn]

Sorry I'm on mobile struggling

[hidden ivy]

Has anyone actually found useful unique loot in the game? In 30h I've found 2 things, everything else was trash or could just be bought from a merchant ...

[mortal wolf]

psychov without cone adaption isn't really psychov anymore

[lucid thorn]

Yeah

I know of like one or two

Uh

Maybe 3

[golden scaffold]

guys did you just make up that Diffuse BRDF stuff i'm legit asking

[vivid iris]

yeah but it was tied into naka rushton stuff and for the life of me I just couldn't get SDR to look better without sticking with their tone mapper

it's only sdr that has this

[rough granite]

32000 was not all of them?

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god there's so many options in the hdr screen now

[golden scaffold]

the fuck am I reading, is this real?

[faint bobcat]

There's a paper on EON from Nov 2025

It's new

[lucid thorn]

I just went through that

[faint bobcat]

Still

[crude marsh]

well there are different types of assets

I modified all of the pamlod assets

[hidden ivy]

I have found the Bunny Mask and the Drill. And a unique lvl 1 cape that is unique, I think

[lucid thorn]

I found a kinda unique sword

[golden scaffold]

👆

[lucid thorn]

Uh the graphics presets

[mortal wolf]

👍 SDR is rough, just a different system. but psychov isn't really meant to match. it's its own thing

[lucid thorn]

In Reno what they do 👀

[mortal wolf]

reinhardpiecewise is probably easier to match

[vivid iris]

for sure, I just slapped together what I could out of that system so there was some sort of visual parity in the sliders between sdr and hdr

[hidden ivy]

Still, the amount of loot is extremely low. Exploration is not really worth it at all. Just for cool vistas I guess 😄

[lucid thorn]

I think that's a person to person thing tbh

[golden scaffold]

you don't explore to find ore deposits or is this just a noob thing im doing?

and hunt?

[boreal thunder]

This game is for chill for me. If I want loot in an open world I play Nioh 3

[lucid thorn]

I need to do all of these but he's talking about loot specifically

[chrome sun]

There are Books and recepe too to create armors/clothes and weapons

[lucid thorn]

You can go behind waterfalls, see if they have anything in them

[vivid iris]

maybe for SDR I should just switch to the old perceptual model stuff

[boreal thunder]

Nioh 3 is like non stop dopamine hit

[mortal wolf]

i only messed with the scale cone adaption by peak nits in someway. like some +0.20 or whatever. but is SDR pretty ass in terms of range. SDR makes a mockery of the actual range of human vision. it's all hacks

[crude marsh]

game does seem to look nicer at a cursory glance, I notice a bit more shadowing on stuff off the bat

and overcast doesn't look quite as absolutely dead

[rough granite]

they still dropped a nice patch for a WE, #KoreanWorkersRightToRest

[boreal thunder]

Do you guys always set peak brightness in Reno to the absolute peak (1-2% window) of your set or tone down to your 5% brightness?

[digital quest]

whatever the clipping point is

[hidden ivy]

I do, couldn't survive otherwise

[hidden ivy]

but those are just repecies for the common stuff you can buy / enemies drop ...

[boreal thunder]

Sometimes I would tone it down a bit for comfort of my eyes

Especially on my modded S95F, 1% window peak could be crazy bright, but on my C4 setting to the clipping point is fine

[golden scaffold]

on my S95F? I sometimes leave it at 1500 but never go above 1800, altough I can still clearly see detail up to 2000 in almost 10% windows. idk why I do that 🤷‍♂️

[fresh field]

time to try out this new reno drop.

[boreal thunder]

Your absolute peak should be 2200 nits unmodded, but yes 1800 sounds about right

[golden scaffold]

the reason for that is that there isn't all that much detail in all games that would warrant going up to 2000. sometimes you don't get that much past 1000 anyway, and some games really like to blast big surfaces with big bright

so depends on the game. it can get value from 2000 peaks in a lot of games, but a lot of those are also pushing it to the limit. while others actually have very little detail beyond 1000 or more

[vivid iris]

damn it, the vanilla preset button sets flame saturation to the wrong thing

[boreal thunder]

Nioh 3’s in game slider max is 1000 but with Reno you can push past that. Not much details beyond 1000 though just brighter

[vivid iris]

gonna start a known issues list on that pinned message I guess lol

[golden scaffold]

exactly my point, kinda surpirsing tho. really?

for example there's a lot of detail in Kena (2000 worth it for sure), and that game does not have native HDR

[chrome sun]

there is armors and weapons you can buy with the points you obtain when doing side stuff

[lucid thorn]

Do you guys ever notice windows you open are closed until you get close, is that also an lod thing haha

[chrome sun]

FilmGrain slider doesn't seems to work for me, is there something else to do to make it work ?

[fresh field]

schrodingers window

its both opened and closed

[hidden ivy]

exactly, you can buy stuff. I want to find stuff 😄

like randomly walking into a hidden cave and there's a weapon

[fresh field]

i went into a random cave and found a wolf head cape

[boreal thunder]

The white rectangle in the second loading screen when Kliff gets up is the perfect test of your TV’s peak brightness

Can be blinding

[burnt berry]

They definitely exist, manors also have some good stuff. And behind waterfalls have good stuff

[lucid thorn]

I think I broke the game

[chrome sun]

does textures in your game looks as bad as on my screenshot ?

[lucid thorn]

Oh I didn't I just got captured

Weird

[crude marsh]

what about digging, game had a notification about using a shovel

[crude marsh]

wdym bad, those look next gen to me

[burnt berry]

still yet to find a spot to actually do that

[chrome sun]

looks blurry on rocks where Kliff stand

[golden scaffold]

there's treasure clue maps you can find

i think it's linked to that

[manic finch]

can't wait to try this out when i get home from work today. Thanks for the hard work!

[crude marsh]

(I was joking, game has low quality textures)

[chrome sun]

oh ok 😅

[tame igloo]

exposure no longer defaulting to 1.25 in new build?

[chrome sun]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/65?tab=description new update

[crude marsh]

@faint bobcat are you responsible for the game having more AO, I swear there wasn't this much before

[faint bobcat]

no

I havent messed with AO

[crude marsh]

well

I guess it would come from GI changes

[faint bobcat]

I havent changed GI either

all my attempts failed

so it shouldnt be in the addon

[crude marsh]

is importance sampling not impacting it

[manic finch]

if only reno could fix the DLAA+HDR black flickering issue

[faint bobcat]

which setting is causing what?

everything is controllable via sliders

I am trying to guage what is what

[boreal thunder]

I thought Reno was washed out in Nioh 3 until I turned volumetric cloud to very low in the graphics settings. Game changer. The fog is as bad as if not worse than MH wilds.

[crude marsh]

I need to properly compare, maybe its just the overall color changes and what not throwing me off

[solar bone]

I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE

i'm so tired of being flashbanged when i leave some place

[golden scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/tinytim-tim-poor-child-boy-gif-7331148

[solar bone]

who doesn't love having the fucking nuclear winter outside

[golden scaffold]

it's annoying to see even when watching sdr streams

[crude marsh]

ok nvm its entirely the white balance changing this scene so much for the better

[boreal thunder]

This is the first game I use DLSS performance on the 5090 but with RR it is worth it. DLAA with no RR looks much worse (at least in the non flickering part that I can actually see)

[crude marsh]

holy shit their auto white balance is so bad

this change alone makes game 100x better

rip pink flames

[solar bone]

yeee

[wheat elk]

that hurts me

[subtle sinew]

the game feels fine on 4k dlss quality with RR and 2x framegen on my 5090

[lucid thorn]

I'm looking for a place on the map I found once. Can you find where you found a memory?

[lapis smelt]

this one broke me holy shit

[boreal thunder]

Try dldsr 2.25x smoothness 10 and dlss performance

Frame gen 2x also

[lapis smelt]

Seen people mentioning they are nerfing the difficulty a lot in the latest patch, is that true?

[lucid thorn]

Found the spot was hoping it had more but didn't

[dire pilot]

They made the lead up to one boss in particular easier because it was way over tuned

[golden scaffold]

what? bosses? I thought this was a life skilling simulator game? 😕

[lucid thorn]

Same

[golden scaffold]

from all the shit in the game you guys find time to fight bosses?

[lucid thorn]

I'm looking for iron ore I dunno what they're talking about

[golden scaffold]

same 😂

[faint bobcat]

I added EON now for local lighting as well

stops random black stops with lambert ahhh

lambert just cooks everything into a black blob

[wheat elk]

niiice

[stone comet]

oh shit new update peak

[wheat elk]

eon looks so natural

[daring orbit]

that doesnt look like

[lilac urchin]

should i care about that error?

[golden scaffold]

maybe check logs?

[daring orbit]

this update seems really good

[lilac urchin]

i mean is working! i just get those errors

[golden scaffold]

well it's not red

[stone comet]

close camera updated as well

[lilac urchin]

i will ignore it :/

[native drift]

How do we get the file to test Reno dx for crimson desert

[flint moss]

Same, and the forests with sun is constant flashbang

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris unless it wasn't clear. acesv2 scales exposure based on peak nits, to reduce range and therefore, more SDR like. so it's impossible to get a "perfect" exposure

[worldly vapor]

pinned

[sly vigil]

pinned comment

or https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods#list

[subtle sinew]

DLDSR was giving me trouble with FG maybe I needed to restart the game but I'll give that a shot thx

[stone comet]

damn they fancied it up with colours even

[chrome sun]

is it better to use fullscreen or windowed fullscreen in this game ?

[sly vigil]

fullscreen is windowed fullscreen for dx12 games

[karmic void]

@faint bobcat did u fix auto exposure in the new build?

[low crane]

The new build looks crazy good man. Good job!!

[stone comet]

he did

[vivid iris]

Yeah, I just figured I’d match the Sdr bump and let’s game brightness take it from there

[lucid thorn]

You know I've been trying to think about where I recognize the colour pallette to Hernand from. I think it reminds me of the e3 witcher 3 footage

[worn ibex]

Wait did forge release his change alr?

What changes were added

[jade flame]

Can literally checked pinned msg. It has a change log

[stone comet]

its in pinned

yall fr need this shit LMAO

[lilac urchin]

ahahahahaha

good gif

[lucid thorn]

Kinda like this one

[little lily]

I am quite new at this, i wonder, should I be touching the ingame HDR sliders or just RenoDX?

[lilac urchin]

just reno

[lucid thorn]

Reno and pray

[lilac urchin]

only for UI touch game

which i wouldn't even bother

[vivid iris]

Ui still gets controlled ingame but the others don’t matter unless you use the vanilla option.

[stone comet]

usually they say to leave game as default

[little lily]

well can say, for last two days, each time the windows decided to flag the addon, i noticed its not there.. i was just curious if it has any difference

[alpine bear]

Sooo, Hammon or EON? Looks like Hammon adds a lot of highlights on some distant terrain, while EON reduces them a little compared to vanilla.

[vivid iris]

Uhh and exposure in game should be default

[daring orbit]

For some reason i was getting some stutters with the new game update, but turning on vrr fixed it

[sly vigil]

good work chaps, looks great

[lament nymph]

I hate this graphics

help me oh god

[little lily]

yeah, its blown out on max, default seems great

[lapis smelt]

What Nvidia preset you guys recommend for least amount of ghosting?

[sly vigil]

DLAA or Quality

[mortal wolf]

real life trees are sparkly

[wheat elk]

eon looks better imo
hammon over cooks the image slightly

[daring orbit]

Sounds like D if you are using RR

[forest path]

heavy copium

[daring orbit]

I find L better than M for 4.5 in this game

[alpine bear]

I don't see any changes on trees highlights tbh

[golden scaffold]

wdym? should i just leave it at 2000?

[forest path]

you should use the max of your displa y

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god the ||drill|| can mine while holding onto the cliff? Since when?

[flint moss]

U can actually tell a difference? 🤔

[mortal wolf]

more light please

[golden scaffold]

even if there is no additional detail? depends on the game of course. can S95F actually hit ABL to the point it would degrade your experience?

[daring orbit]

Yea, if you cant you probably have rr on

[forest path]

there is always additional detail

there is no abl with an s95f

i'm legit confusd on how you setup your stuff

[flint moss]

Oh I thought u meant compared to 4.5 M

[golden scaffold]

that sound pretty goated i wish it true

[forest path]

on my s95d i clearly see massive gap between 1000 and 1800, and a gap between 1800 and 3000

[forest path]

?.

[golden scaffold]

just being conservative coming from older woleds suffering from abl (and still owning a C2)

[golden scaffold]

you're saying it actually does not physically do any kind of ABL... ever?

[mortal wolf]

yeah, i think it's light through the leaves

[daring orbit]

Yeah, but if you are using rr you cant actually use m or l so if you are trying to select between those two you arent seeing anything

[forest path]

i'm saying dylan did the math and to trigger abl you need 220 nits of average brightness on the scene to start getting it which is giantormous

[golden scaffold]

ok that info helps a ton 🙏

[forest path]

so unless you use 500 paper white perma 24/7 you shouldn't reach these figures

like

[golden scaffold]

yeah i'm like averaging 150 paper white 😂

[forest path]

my modded s95d abls at 120 nits avg and i never reach that with 203 nits pw

so yeah you're good

like you can mod your tv to 4000 and never get abl either

[golden scaffold]

because in truth s95f without suffering from ABL can make 150 look much brighter than a trueblack400 monitor or a C2 at 200 paper

[forest path]

well yeah

[flint moss]

Ooh yeah I don't use RR but I've tried about 100 times to make it work 🥲 . I use 4.5 normal but ill try L too

[forest path]

that's why tvshit on monitors

they have sooo much headroom

[sly vigil]

I'll use RR when Nvidia fix their bluring shit and the game doesn't force you to use Max for lightning

[daring orbit]

I think its a little less noisy water with L

[golden scaffold]

inb4 another monitor question should they use 400 or 1000 mode

meanwhile TV users: what eotf modes?

[daring orbit]

There is comprise no matter what way you go with RR i just cant handle dlss balanced with rr

Looks like fsr to me

[lucid thorn]

I've been test driving true black. It's cozy

And my eyes aren't burned

[golden scaffold]

what's the biggest %window it can display at 400 in 400 mode?

[lucid thorn]

Uhhhhhh

[worn ibex]

It doesn’t list forges changes

[faint bobcat]

Hammon has multi scatter compensation which makes it brighter but for games with RT/PT it goes overboard (it is more useful for raster based games)

EON has better maths and is more physically correct to the scene and across all scenes (it was built around RT/PT in mind)

Their base Burley has a highlight booster as well which adds more energy in places it shouldnt whilst various grazing angles lose all energy compared to EON

[daring orbit]

Yeah cant you see how blurry it looks?

[mortal wolf]

i'm here admiring the orange to yellow to white

uh, psychov or vanilla?

[daring orbit]

Change between 4.0 and 4.5 with RR and see for yourself

[golden scaffold]

what was the mod running on before this update? Burley?

[worldly vapor]

yes, RR upscaling uses its own preset

[lucid thorn]

Does this mean anything to you

Interestingly, 'HDR Peak 1000' isn't the brightest HDR mode in all scenarios. Except for very small highlights, the 'DisplayHDR True Black' Smart HDR mode is actually brighter. However, during real scene testing, 'DisplayHDR True Black' brightness is 382 cd/m², while 'HDR Peak 1000' brightness is 407 cd/m². You can see this in more detail below:

[daring orbit]

I mean im sure 4k quality looks good

[worldly vapor]

and doesnt have a 4.5 update

[daring orbit]

But 1440 balanced, does not

[faint bobcat]

base game uses Burley for sun light and lambert for local lights (torches, braziers, lamps and so on)

[final imp]

Holy shit it looks so much better

[daring orbit]

I would not sweat dlss 4.5 if i could run RR on 4k quality lol

[mortal wolf]

what's the speed delta?

[sly vigil]

It specifically is RR from the DLSS 4.0 branch so it wouldn't work in a 4.5 container

[slim lily]

alright, VERY new to the world of HDR in general, literally never enabled it before. Should I be setting the peak brightness in the Reno sliders to my *monitors * peak brightness? Ive got an Acer Predator x34 OLED, i dont even know what the peak brightness is, seeing mixed things online, but before i installed Reno, the HDR settings in game would clip at like 470 on that slider.

[daring orbit]

It confused me too, i didnt understand they are different

[faint bobcat]

burley / eon

notice how at this angle, Burley is too dark, the wooden stools on the left also look out of place like their shading is wrong

[daring orbit]

Its just rr 4.0 preset d

[lime bridge]

you turned on RR

[faint bobcat]

yes, its just memes on their menu

[lime bridge]

and preset L is doing nothhing

[sly vigil]

When you use RR it uses DLSS 4.0

[faint bobcat]

they didnt disable the the message box to grey it out

[daring orbit]

You can switch it to preset e, but everyone says not to

[sly vigil]

whats the default preset for DLSS 4.0 then? K?

[daring orbit]

D

[lime bridge]

That option should realistically be greyed out when you have RR selected but considering everything else in this game it isn't surprising

[sly vigil]

D?!

[lime bridge]

RR has it's own presets

[daring orbit]

Its blurry

Again i know it looks good on 4k quality

Or dlaa

[sly vigil]

does ReBAR fuck this game up

before i start turning shit on and off

[faint bobcat]

for?

[slim lily]

anyone mind explaining the basics to me lol? for whatever its worth i ltierally dont notice a difference between the sttings unless its like 80 or lower

[outer furnace]

Yes had sporadic crashes, not much use anyways cause the game is already conservative with its VRAM usage

[mortal wolf]

were you going to swap lambert for burley?

[sly vigil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vevo-vevo-JwjBy94VzDd6

[faint bobcat]

nah, for local lighting which they use lambert, I replaced it with EON as well

[ruby tusk]

My cutscenes bug out with Preset E

[faint bobcat]

its not in the addon yet

I added it just now

[daring orbit]

Im not using RR..LOL

[long stag]

CA/Sharp still not working in SDR 🙁

[daring orbit]

i cant run it on quality

[sly vigil]

you can always enable the watermark for DLSS in registry to see what version you;re using

[lime bridge]

run the windows calibration that might give you the peak brightness.

[sly vigil]

yeah it does

[ruby tusk]

If you have DLSS swapper you can just enable it there too to see

[daring orbit]

I think everyone is saying thats the best

[daring orbit]

L seems not as heavy as M, am i tripping?

[lime bridge]

there aren't. RR is it's own DLL and does the denoising and DLSS together. DLSS is a speperate DLL that doesn't even activate when you have RR on, that is why changing the super sampling presets doesn't do anything with RR on. Hope that makes sese

RR uses its own set of presets. It is a seperate branch essentially

[daring orbit]

That individual is asking if they should just use default preset with rr i think

[golden scaffold]

a picture might not be enough, need to see this in motion myself but now I know what to look for. There were certainly many times in the game where looking at the ground felt too dim compared to how bright the sky was. I hope this balances it. also I might point out, the shadows on the right look more crushed with eon I'm an idiot my windows was in SDR mode let me look agian.

Ok i can resolve detail in HDR on the right side shadows, but should it be this dark? it's barely visible.

[outer furnace]

just a heads up, my opinion of course but RR mainly makes a big difference indoors, which is not a place where youre gonna be very often in CD. dont stress it too much, games is stunning without RR as well

[daring orbit]

I wish there was a mod to switch to RR indoors

[lime bridge]

Sometimes people change to "preset E" within that RR branch, but I haven't tested that in this game and there are mixed results in others

[slim lily]

thanks, did that and it looks like peak brightness is around like 650, thats when i lost the image on the slider anyways

[lime bridge]

so set Reno to 650 peak for all geames (it shoudl be the default automatically)

[sinful wharf]

do we have to recompile shaders before we use the new updated renodx ?

[daring orbit]

Also less fights indoors so fps is less important

[slim lily]

cool, thank you for the help.

[golden scaffold]

in any case picture 2 looks a lot better

[outer furnace]

I have best results with RR off, all settinmgs Cinematic (performance impact isnt very big anyways) except lighting which is Ultra. Then ideally I'd use DLAA + 2x FG but DLAA has the weird glitch still so I'm at quality. on top of that using Immerse Clarity and Sharpening reshades

[sly vigil]

i dunno what the spend skill points on

[golden scaffold]

stamina and if unsure health, then i would go for magic upgrades. grapple upgrades for the memes

[sly vigil]

i already got the wrestling ones for the memes

[outer furnace]

health is lowkey useless cause you can just eat food infinitely lmao

[sly vigil]

max out stamina first maybe?

[golden scaffold]

stamina is like super op i think

its your block etc

dodge

[daring orbit]

Id say get all the wcw moves right away

[sly vigil]

I did that immediately

[daring orbit]

That gal with the rapier can dona flying head scissor

[outer furnace]

+1 for more stamina

at least until the cost for further upgrades becomes greater than 2

[daring orbit]

Ray masterio style

[sly vigil]

also W for saying WCW

https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-wrestling-wcw-dennis-rodman-S4AnOkBwfcb4GyDzK7

[eager epoch]

It improved perf for me on a 5090 / 9950X3D

[paper oriole]

Speaking of wrestling (amongst other skills), the lariat is actually at least 3-4 different moves.

[sly vigil]

so max out stamina now i guess

[sly vigil]

yeah i found that out after i suplexed someone

[golden scaffold]

i mean the magic upgrades look interesting. at least get the one that gives you the grappling hook

[paper oriole]

The game doesn't even tell you this. It can be a people's elbow, a suplex, or a lariat at a minimum.

Same with the clothesline, you can get a jump out of it too.

[sly vigil]

you get that just normally dont you

[golden scaffold]

no idea

[crude marsh]

4.0 SR default is J and RR default is D

[long stag]

just double-checked... works in HDR, doesn't do anything in SDR, do you mind sharing some screens in PM?

[paper oriole]

if you do it to a downed enemy, it's a people's elbow

[golden scaffold]

what would actually matter is do any (or which?) skills on the skill tree give you superarmor (CC immunity etc)?

[sly vigil]

theirs an evasion one that seems useful

[golden scaffold]

that was like the BDO basic. get SA/FG skills and pretty much only use those

[sly vigil]

but who evades when I can suplex them into a bear cave

[chrome sun]

There are skills you can unlock without point, but just by watching guard training or ennemies doing special attacks, or when you found those spirit thins

[daring orbit]

I dont know did pyscho v change or something

These colors do seem better

[rose jewel]

did you remove the tonemapping option in the last addon? @vivid iris

waay better flame hues

[vocal delta]

I kinda feel foliage and vegetation is super messy and mush, especially when moving/wind,
and that was the same wether i disabled upscaling or not. that very first area 'enter the cabin' looked so messy.

(settings was on 'ultra' which game first defaulted to)

[worthy belfry]

U guys think that there’s gonna be a mod that makes it so u can use ray reconstruction on lower than max light settings

Just as a denoiser

[golden scaffold]

the last image. WOW

like actual holy shit

[vivid iris]

For SDR yeah

[lilac urchin]

i love this guys 🙁

Jon take a nap ahahah

[stone comet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/84

this is cool

[mortal wolf]

reminds me in CP2077, when you go from D60 to D65. did they want to tint the whole game "crimson"?

[flint moss]

Wow you guys absolutely cooked with the update 🔥

[worthy belfry]

Did the update just come out?

[rose jewel]

strange, it doesnt appear for me now

[tawdry yoke]

is dlss4.5 better for quality and balanced?.....dlss4.5 l better to use with performance and ultra performance?

[daring orbit]

Idk about that

[lilac urchin]

M is for performance

and L for ultra

L is very aggresive

[vivid iris]

Weird, just toggle hdr off and on in game

[rose jewel]

yo hdr off kicked me outta gime ☠️

[lament nymph]

psychov

[lilac urchin]

i'm using L only death stranding with quality and looks gorgeous but is because i have headroom to use it

[faint bobcat]

base / EON

loses all energy conservation

ends up dark grey

[ruby tusk]

You guys are legends, thank you for all your hard work

[faint bobcat]

doesnt match the building shading at all

no way

shitpost is messaging

[slim lily]

i was getting really bad like stippling in my shadows sometimes, reno seemed to fix it but idk if thats an HDR thing, Reno thing, or something else entirely. either way, shoutout to you guys for making this, looks so much better

[slim lily]

shitpost moment

[forest path]

10%

[golden scaffold]

can someone check if it's possible to mod ambient sound files and maybe how to do it?

I want to adjust a few things

birds are super annoying

[mortal wolf]

🙏 interested to know what vanilla tonemapper does (still haven't made it past the title screen)

[worldly vapor]

tandem can get up to 800 at 10% these days, but it doesnt exactly track correctly

still kinda confused why they kneecap HDR so badly on monitors tho

[grave shell]

Is the latest version broken? It no longer shows up in reshade

[mortal wolf]

sounds like windows av gatekeeping

[lilac urchin]

damn!! still ahaha you were on the title screen during plasma tv stream 😂

[grave shell]

Old version showed up new one does not

[mortal wolf]

what does reshade.log say

[grave shell]

Let me check one second

[mortal wolf]

22:11:29:709 [ 9904] | ERROR | Failed to load add-on from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crimson Desert\bin64\renodx-crimsondesert.addon64' with error code 4551!

ERROR_SYSTEM_INTEGRITY_POLICY_VIOLATION 4551

windows av

[grave shell]

so ive gotta put steam as excluded ?

[mortal wolf]

whatever antivirus you have is blocking the addon64 file from being loaded

[grave shell]

alright let me try

put steam folder in windows defender till gives me the error wtf

not sure what was changed since last version but broken for me

[lime bridge]

I'd argue that some of the shading on some of the stones on the building does look better with vanilla though. The ground obviously makes more sense in EON but there are other areas think it is more of a preference and not a obvious/straight upgrade.

[viscid wedge]

trust me, this isn't unique to you. you can work around it, we've all had to

[shut badge]

the game looks a bit better with the addon update

what changed to make it look better?

[daring orbit]

With reno dx, and camera mod, id say this game is a solid 7.5

[viscid wedge]

the changes are in the pinned post with the download, it looks like

[crude marsh]

huge improvement is turning off auto white balance

[granite crypt]

Can nvidia users who use HDR + DLAA please submit bug reports about the black bar flicker please?

It's still not been acknowledged as a bug yet.

Run the pers.exe file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crimson Desert\bin64 and send the form on the site here with the Unique ID after running pers.exe: https://crimsondesert.pearlabyss.com/en-US/News/Notice/Detail?_boardNo=67

[worthy belfry]

games kinda smeary at 1440p if u turn dlss on

[vale scarab]

Hello, where can i download the renodx for Crimson ?

[jade flame]

I sent one in with a YT link to a screen cap of the issue.

[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message

[mossy gust]

Double waterfall

[grave shell]

added the game to my defender and still wont work so i mean

[flint moss]

Jumping from the abyss is actually some of the coolest shit

[crude marsh]

modding this game is such a pain in the ass

[viscid wedge]

Windows Security > Virus & Threat Protection "Manage Settings" > Exclusions "Manage Exclusions". Add the game directory.

[frosty fulcrum]

man game is looking fantastic now

[grave shell]

thats what i did i also added the file only and it still gives me the 4551 error

[crude marsh]

literally using strategies that run an optimization loop of up to 20000 iterations for writes to make the exact size fit in the paz files

[frosty fulcrum]

just curious are any of those fixes meant to help with RR off? Or is it still recommended to use RR

[viscid wedge]

I dunno then, this issue started yesterday morning and we've been able to work around it.

[lament nymph]

the puzzles in this game are garbage ...

especially abyss ones

[outer furnace]

is that the weird fake ABL effect that for some reason dims the brightness when in towns?

[daring orbit]

It still makes a huge difference with rr off, for the record

[grave shell]

even turned off defender and it still gives me the error

[crude marsh]

so far nothing is going to help the game not having much GI without RR

and a bunch of stuff missing shading without RR

they built the GI to be used with RR

[daring orbit]

Would ss rtgi help some?

[frosty fulcrum]

yeah the auto exposure is huge

[crude marsh]

game is already using some kind of SS RTGI I think

[shut badge]

yeah ik but I'd like for someone to explain the changes

[daring orbit]

Oh well

[crude marsh]

you can mouse over the new options

[grave shell]

so can 4551 mean something else?

[vale scarab]

Is the pinning mod the same as the one on GitHub? Or is the Discord one updated more regularly?

[daring orbit]

Ok so that makes sense its not "max" lighting, its rtgi

[crude marsh]

right, which basically only RR is enabling

[daring orbit]

Plus rr denoise

Oh well cant fix that

[crude marsh]

at least right now probably better to grab from discord, will always have the current work in progress

[ruby tusk]

weird bug, I'm on 4090, HDR, DLAA and not seen this but I've seen other peeps with it

I feel like I've noticed it affect 50 series owners more

could be wrong

[final imp]

It went away yesterday but now it's back lol

[quartz flame]

My game somehow today even at 4k native max settings looks very pixelated and oversharpen as hell

dont know wth happend today

[granite crypt]

Whats your GPU driver version?

[vivid iris]

Install Instructions

• Download and install ReShade with Full Addon Support to the game. Game is DX12, no shaders needed, skip the addons sections
• Download the latest version of the mod and place in the bin64 folder of the game

This mod functions in both SDR and HDR modes. Set the mode you want to use in-game.

For HDR

• SET EXPOSURE IN-GAME TO THE DEFAULT VALUE
• UI brightness is controlled via the in-game menu
• The in-game peak brightnesss selection is only used for the Vanilla (ACESv2) tonemap selection

For SDR

• Default gamma is recommended

[vivid iris]

@tawdry yoke

[quartz flame]

could this add on reno dx file mess with the game settings/ sharpness and other things?

looks terrible today for no reason

[ruby tusk]

595.79

[crude marsh]

looks like you have sharpness cranked up

[grave shell]

fixed it even when adding the addon file to the antivirus excluded it still wont work so i had to disable smart app control

[crude marsh]

turn it off in reno

also turn off CA

[sly swift]

is the game worth buying again (refunded) now with the latest patches? i did have this issue though

[flint moss]

Im curious for those who are experienced - do you beleive it is technically possible to be able to do something for RT without RR? I mean just not for renodx but for any modders. Or is it a lost cause?

[quartz flame]

i unnistalled from reshade but still looks the same now, guess i need to reinstall the game by this point wth

it mess my game badly now

[sly swift]

i'd assume it would be possible with renodx given what it can do, just not right now or isn't a priority but i could be wrong

[crude marsh]

it could be possible to use RR with lower RT settings, but I highly doubt the base game is capable of handling better RT without RR

[faint bobcat]

I suspect they ctrl c + ctrl v'ed the sun code but then changed the functions and texture to use the moon instead

however they still kept the same min(1e+06f, _precomputedAmbient7.x) so the moon uses sun values

[crude marsh]

there is an actual moon texture

wow

[upper sun]

My game randomly oversharpens to all hell for like 5seconds and then it goes back to normal no idea why xD

[flint moss]

I agree they are wizards but perhaps with no access to the engine its not possible for anyone

[vale scarab]

Game brightness and hightlights for an oled monitor is correct 203 and 50 ?

[flint moss]

Fair enough, ty!

[quartz flame]

think same happend to me but for me its permanent now, even after i unnistall the renodx adding still looks oversharpen and very blurry

[crude marsh]

ok I have modified 65000 game files, pray that it launches

[fleet wave]

RenoDX adds the ability to remove sharpening in the first place no?

[rose jewel]

Vanilla \ RenoDX 🔥 ✅

[smoky brook]

im becoming religious rn

[flint moss]

Oh and what about using rr at a lower lighting preset? Or its the rtxg(or whatever it was) and restir that makes it so heavy, which would still be the case with lower lighting values?

[quartz flame]

ya but think its bugged or something

it completely mess my game now second day using it

but could be from the game itself also

[deft pulsar]

so in the new version the rendering sections only work for RR on?

[crude marsh]

no

[quartz flame]

heard it has some problmes while u switch from HDR on vs OFF sometimes

[flint moss]

They really did transform this game 🙏

[crude marsh]

right that is what I suggested that might be possible earlier

[quartz flame]

and the sharpen was set to 0 all the time i check several times.

[flint moss]

Ty for the info!

[fleet wave]

Strange

[rose jewel]

im confident that it will be global thing soon to play RenoDX on! 💯

[hollow pollen]

Anyone else game crashing with frame gen enabled + renodx? Turning off frame gen stops crashing

[daring orbit]

Did the game recompile when restarted after using the new renodx?

[crude marsh]

might want to force recompile shaders yeah

[quartz flame]

no i dont think so

[flint moss]

It has been for the last 1.5 years for me. Truly it is next level, actually insane to me how few still know about it

[smoky brook]

mine does on renodx update yh

[vale garnet]

where can i find the actual mod?

[quartz flame]

ahh ya i rem it did actually after using for the first time the Reno addon

[tawny ravine]

Time to get a ps5 pro to properly enjoy the game

[sly swift]

pinned messages on the top right w/ the red dot near a pin icon

[crude marsh]

digital foundry just needs to disappear from existence

[sly swift]

i bought a ps5 pro for gta 6 last year and i have not turned it on ever

[vale garnet]

thanks 🙂

[daring orbit]

Lol they love all the same games you love

[tawny ravine]

Hopefully you'll get a use for it this year if it doesn't get delayed again

[sly swift]

honestly it's a win win if it does or doesn't. gives other games a chance to shine if it doesn't, or means a better product in the long run. either way, i don't think it'll disappoint me and i'm fine with waiting -- time's been going by fast

[daring orbit]

Is it supposed to come out this year?

Gta6

[sly swift]

november yeah

19? 18?

[daring orbit]

Damn im not ready for that

[sly swift]

"November 19 is widely recognized as International Men's Day and World Toilet Day "

?

[tawny ravine]

True and they want it to be the best possible product at launch day. I don't think it would be an overstatement to say this will become the most sold video game in history one day. The expectations are massive

[crude marsh]

too bad GTA is boring

[golden scaffold]

I managed to run crimson inspector, could I inquire with you if I have any questions about modding stuff? I have no idea what I'm doing btw but I really want to do something and it seems easy to find the stuff I'm looking for with this tool

[daring orbit]

Funny thing is ive never played gta fir more than 10mins

Like the original one

[tawny ravine]

Ya but it has massive appeal for broader audiences

[sly swift]

shit gonna be a crimson desert 2.0 lowkey, but they have a better chance at handling it since it's exclusive to consoles

all i hope is there isn't a gta online launch repeat

but that's gonna be very hard to predict

[crude marsh]

you can refer to my modding tool on nexus for attempting to repackage files

[wheat rivet]

I installed ReShade and RenoDX. Now I’d like to know if I need to change anything else. I’ve attached an image of my configuration.

[daring orbit]

Oh i bet it will be massively bigger than CD

[sly swift]

errr i guess it's what people thougth crimson desert would be, not necessarily a 2.0

[tawny ravine]

Oh right I almost forgot about the double dip. They have the capacity and ability to release on both platforms on day one. But they refuse to 😭

[mossy gust]

i'll wait for the pc release, no way i'm playing that game at 30 fps

[drowsy shoal]

what is the performance impact?

[sly swift]

i mean at the end of the day, it really does help their business. extra money sure but also mainly better compatibility/support i guess. but yeah sucks that it's not going to be a pc release

[tawny ravine]

Do they really need the help? They are too big to fail at this point. And if leaks are credible at all they spent ludicrous amounts of money on the game and weren't afraid to delay it multiple times

Doubt they are under any pressure to release it either

[golden scaffold]

link/name?

[crude marsh]

crimson desert unpacker

there is a python script for repacking

it may or may not work for various file types

[sly swift]

yeah im sure they want to keep the their name of being the if not one of the top dogs, and they're in a comfortable position to do so as well. the releasing on consoles first only helps them establish that goal, because of how consoles are rather a fixed component used rather than pcs being all these random variables and such. and then when they properly polish on consoles as it'll be an easier task, any errors on pc will just be brushed over for the most part if that makes sense since everyone will be saying gta 6 is the most amazing and optimized game

[lime bridge]

flame sat. should be at 50 according to the pin

[outer furnace]

stupid question btw, but there isnt any hotkey I missed to actually highlight loot and other pickable items in sight? theres so many that are super easy to miss cause theyre barely visible in grass etc...

[crude marsh]

for vanilla

[golden scaffold]

what does browser do that unpacker doesn't? they both allow me to view files?

[crude marsh]

mine has repacking scripts

[paper oriole]

auto white balance seems to have additional impacts on interior lighting. I don't know if this is intended.

off and on.

[crude marsh]

browser probably just built off of what I did

[lime bridge]

ah, I read that wrong the first time.

[tawny ravine]

I mean yeah that does make sense. Still it's not really a common tactic to release just on console first without any exclusivity deal. My bet is that they just want people to double dip aka buy the game twice. But I may be wrong

[golden scaffold]

I want to modify sound files and event scripts (like how often does the sound play) you think that's possible? if not then just loudness adjustments

[crude marsh]

yeah, its very helpful for deshittifying the overwhelming blue

[sterile sable]

and than they will leave json file with all items in it again and loading will be atrocious again, they won't shut up about piracy on pc and tell you that is the reason for delay again 😄

[paper oriole]

that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the additional shadow, and removal of reflection.

Behind the smithy, and the reflection on Kliff's plate.

[sly swift]

oh no that's def the main reason for sure

[sly swift]

and or refuse to fix things until it impacts revenue 😭

[severe vine]

That is definitely correct, also releasing pc version later gives them a fresh and bigger cash inflow in another fiscal year. Looks good to shareholders.

[lime bridge]

btw, before I play I'll do a reminder that if you hate the shitty constant "clutter" pop-in in this game you can easily remove it with the Gametism "no HUD" Reshade Add-on.

[daring orbit]

And pom

And the stupid arrow trails

[sly swift]

wonder if gta 6 will be $80 or raise it to $100; yes i know the ceo said they wouldn't

[daring orbit]

99.99

[severe vine]

it'll mostly be 70-80

[drowsy shoal]

any performance impact when enabling this reshade?

[crude marsh]

its not a reshade

there is a minimal performance impact

[severe vine]

they want maximum sales, they can milk the hell out of their players through online

[tawny ravine]

Lucky for them people will buy it no matter the price

[drowsy shoal]

where i can find the link to download?

[crude marsh]

the pins

[lime bridge]

This isn't a Reshade, this is the mod that will make you never use a "normal" reshade mod again

[sly swift]

check the pinned messages on the top right

[severe vine]

they'll not keep the entry fee to their ecosystem too high

gta online is the real money maker for them

[sly swift]

#1469072401450012774 message
#1469072401450012774 message

[paper oriole]

It seems like disabling AWB also disables a camera light.

[tawny ravine]

Gta online makes them ludicrous amounts of money for sure even with the hacking and cheating

[crude marsh]

need more examples, the left image above was much better

[severe vine]

exactly

that's why entry fee will be lower

[sly swift]

honestly bro idc if they milk it just make the experience good

dont be like cod

or ea

[severe vine]

they need to get as many people in as possible

keeping it 100$ will stop many people

[sly swift]

wasn't ea the first one to do the whole $80

[paper oriole]

I agree, that is absolutely not the point of my post. Can you explain how disabling awb is adding a shadow behind the smithy though?

[sly swift]

or was it nintendo

[crude marsh]

I don't think it is, but I think they do a really strange light boosting with awb

[severe vine]

nah, iirc ea stayed with 60-70$

[crude marsh]

and maybe it disables the extra light boost IIRC

@faint bobcat

[faint bobcat]

Skyrim

[faint bobcat]

tried, breaks ReSTIR

[crude marsh]

damn

[paper oriole]

well something has to be happening. It's clearly not just white balance though. I also much prefer having the camera light disabled.

[faint bobcat]

everything downstream gets effected

[naive terrace]

Finally! fantastic work man

[daring orbit]

It looks way better disabled, there should be a shadow there

[sly swift]

was it NBA???

[mossy gust]

woah, that moon

[sly swift]

idk why but i feel like it was a sports game that started raising prices up

[deft pulsar]

cant turn in a werewolf 0/10

[severe vine]

nintendo started with 80$ crap iirc

[drowsy shoal]

ty!!

[sly swift]

np! do note it's still a work in progress 🫡

[daring orbit]

You can ride a wolf

[paper oriole]

again, I agree. Do you seriously not understand that I'm simply pointing out that it shouldn't be tied to white balance? You keep justifying it by saying it looks better—I agree

[sly swift]

eh probably right

[crude marsh]

Forge is only one that would know for sure, but I know their AWB was doing really odd stuff

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-ellen-hutter-wolf-meme-jjongvillee-gif-8708095632783399513

[faint bobcat]

AWB is tied to auto exposure histogram, it massively hue shifts or corrects using histrogram data

[paper oriole]

Ok, yeah no worries. I wasn't complaining about the result at all.

[faint bobcat]

my code should in theory just neutralise the hue shifting

I dont know why its changing exposure for you here

[paper oriole]

???I'm not talking about exposure, I'm talking about the fact that it is apparently disabling a camera light? Would you like to see a video of it being turned on and off?

[faint bobcat]

HDR png capture in that case

or a vid

[paper oriole]

yeah no worries, it's very obvious to see, and I am NOT talking about exposure, or white balance. You'll see, give me a second

[faint bobcat]

memes

they actually do use sun values

for brightness

[tawny ravine]

"Grass and everything has true colors now" Ignorance really is bliss 😭

[true dagger]

do you see the sort of border around the shield on the left hand side for example? Left image is Reno off, right is Reno on, newest version

[jade flame]

Using the new version of Reno for CD NPCs have faint black boxes around them.

[mortal wolf]

i'm guessing night is pinker?

[faint bobcat]

and blue

pink or blue or white

the only colours that exist in this game

[mortal wolf]

i was wondering if the game was biased to d93

[paper oriole]

@forge Here's a shitty video, but like I said, it's not hard to see at all. It appears to be related to camera proximity (hence why I think it may be a beauty light)

[jade flame]

Hard to see but it's there

[crude marsh]

hooray for accidentally disabling a fake light I guess

[wise flax]

Did they fix the rain issue with RR?

[daring orbit]

I wonder if all fake lights are disabled

[paper oriole]

this is why I am pointing this out. Yes, in this case it looks much better.

[zenith lark]

Man, I've been using RenoDX for a lot of games. I just joined the discord. I'm enjoying all the behind the scene stuff. Great work, keep it up!

[daring orbit]

Yea i see now

[paper oriole]

I just think it should be a separate toggle. And it appears forge wasn't aware of this, so it can only help.

[tame vault]

Yes

[deft pulsar]

i wish they'd have added some toggles for RT

reflections look so bad and completely kill immersion

but then again GI is also borked

idk poor RT implementations suck

[wise flax]

I noticed I can see rain with RR on, but its kinda hard to see and a bit blurry. I turned RR off and the rain disappeared completely lol

[crude marsh]

all my homies hate fake lights

[paper oriole]

it's usually one of the first mod I install in all games.

[crude marsh]

but yeah, definitely unintended

[lucid thorn]

Do your homies hate dlss5

[daring orbit]

There is probably some bullshit puzzle that needs fake lights😆

Oh well fuk that puzzle

[crude marsh]

I like the idea of doing something like a LoRA to games but... what they showed aint it

we shall see

[daring orbit]

Im sure by this fall it will be better and run on less than half the gpus it takes

[sly vigil]

why cant I rename my horses 🙁

[paper oriole]

@faint bobcat Video is here: #1469072401450012774 message

I run the game maxed out at 4k dlss quality with RR (if that matters)

[sly vigil]

I always name them after cheeses

[crude marsh]

it would be really cool if artists could take a bunch of stuff they created and feed it into a model and be like here this is what the game looks like, buuuuut doing that effectively and not having consequences in real time right now..... yeah idk

[daring orbit]

Munster

[lucid thorn]

I'm on an amd gpu I'll never see it :p

[plain fractal]

The changes in the new version are quite impressive. Do we need to clear the config manually in the reshade.ini file when updating or is the reset button in the renoDx UI enough?

[paper oriole]

I did a reset all, but I'm not an authoritative source.

[restive roost]

You'll see whatever version AMD cooks 1 year later.

[crude marsh]

really just two defaults are different, contrast and saturation

[hidden ivy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/comments/1s1q987/hdr_finally_worksgame_is_beautiful_af/

[lucid thorn]

Not if it's like ray regeneration! I'll need a new gpu for it :p

I'm not rich enough for bleeding edge haha

[outer furnace]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-season-7-xUPJPiU3NEawzBCCUo

[paper oriole]

Ha, as I'm sitting here reporting a weird behavior in AWB, I found a new (seemingly base-game) issue

Still happens with renodx preset set to off. Goes away as soon as I move the camera. Seems to be caused by idling the game for a while, maybe during loss of focus (I was typing in here). No biggy, I've never seen anything like this during actual gameplay, and doesn't seem to be caused by reshade/reno

(not reporting this issue to anyone here, just thought it was interesting)

[restive roost]

If you stop near a waterfall with RR on the water stops flowing.

move the camera and it moves again

[deft pulsar]

haha this is game is so broken

[paper oriole]

yeah. I believe preset e fixes that, but introduces a bunch of worse issues.

[deft pulsar]

im enjoying it so much but a shame this issues are present

bit more polished would have been amazing

[outer furnace]

what is so broken in your opinion? imo its pretty smooth for a AAA launch nowadays

lots of little annoying things (many of wich patched today) but no dealbreakers imo

[daring orbit]

It fine

[paper oriole]

compared to a bethesda game, this is a well oiled machine.

[daring orbit]

Solid 7.5

[deft pulsar]

the gameplay side works pretty well and now that they added a storage box I have no major complaints tbh

[torpid fractal]

which one is newer? pinned file or the one on github renodx wiki? they are different.

[restive roost]

pinned is newer

[deft pulsar]

presentation though is very inconsistent, lighting behaves so weird

weird LOD, lots of really close pop in

[outer furnace]

sure it has its issues visually but far from what I'd call broken

broken to me is shit like CP77 launch on ps4

[paper oriole]

lod is the worse part of overall presentation maxed out, I would say. Very jarring, and feels at least a few generations behind the curve (while simultaneously having insane draw distances that rival rdr2, so mixed bag)

[deft pulsar]

imo in the dark it is broken, light cast by the lantern in dark caves sometimes totally fucks up and the walls starts looking like a pink and white parallax

lmao

[chrome sun]

Low texture bother me more

[deft pulsar]

I just want to use my 20gb VRAM haha dont mind me

[outer furnace]

lmao wrong game for that buddy, i think it caps out at like 8-9gigs at 4k cinematic

[deft pulsar]

I know thats why im complaining

kneecapped it to make it run on potatoes

but it really doesnt

[outer furnace]

just open a unrealslop game on the side and youre good

[finite anchor]

Quick question, does in game HDR needs to be enabled?

[mossy gust]

yes

[finite anchor]

ok, but what about the setting HDR setting "Exposure", etc?

[chrome sun]

Default

[outer furnace]

doesnt matter thats all getting overwritten by reno

think only UI brightness still has an effect

[restive roost]

Adjust UI in game rest on reno

[finite anchor]

HDR10+ on?

[outer furnace]

no

[finite anchor]

copy, thanks

[silent pike]

noob question: so if I install renodx but select Vanilla button, it means games own hdr processing?

[digital elbow]

u found any workaround ?

[sudden pulsar]

So @faint bobcat , I heard you unleashed your unsloppa?

[outer furnace]

yes, can use that to compare in realtime if you want

[warm scroll]

hi all, where can I download the latest renodx file for this game?

i clicked to the top but dont see a download location or file

[silent pike]

click right top Pinned Messages

[lament nymph]

... after almost 11 years and there's still no video games with better looking food than ff15

[granite crypt]

There isnt one, we have to all submit a bug report so they can patch it as they arent aware of this bug yet. If you want to help read the reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/comments/1s1vj70/hdr_dlaa_crimson_desert/

[lament nymph]

we need that technology back

[faint bobcat]

Game packed AWB in g_exposureUAV[6] (= _exposure1.z) that is then read by CalcualteManyLights local light shader. Hero lights are negative encoded.

I zeroed this write which causes the hero light to turn off. I have a way to remove the AWB and I will add hero lights as a separate slider

[outer furnace]

monster hunter food always is top tier

[daring orbit]

What i time to be alive

[lament nymph]

not as top tier as ff15 still

[outer furnace]

brb have to check how ff15 food looks like

[faint bobcat]

peak

[outer furnace]

alright convinced, ff15 has best food wtf

[faint bobcat]

Look at all of this @sudden pulsar

[silent pike]

with reno I have these black boxes around shield head etc, wihing moving objects

[lament nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV_orxyBjv0 ... I mean look x.x this is 11 yrs old technology

[warm scroll]

ah ty!

[faint bobcat]

oh yh special edition just for you

[hidden ivy]

what did you do to the night sun?! 😂

[drowsy shoal]

ok i just tested on vs off. i see 4-6fps loss

[faint bobcat]

I ruined their creative decisions

[warm scroll]

didnt monster hunter have better looking food?

[drowsy shoal]

110-113 fps off vs 106-110fps on

i feel like the correction with reno on is quite minimal tho

[lament nymph]

this game lets us butcher goats but I can't capture dogs and eat them, whatk ind of korean game is this

[drowsy shoal]

i actually want to see if we can disable or smoothing the auto-exposure in game

[outer furnace]

you can drown animals though

[dire pilot]

the only thing I've noticed is that turning on vanilla turns fire blue and the circle when aiming tools is now purple instead of blue, beyond that, good stuff lol

[drowsy shoal]

the auto exposure slider in reno menu seems not making any effect

[gilded plover]

dlss 5

[manic finch]

What a difference, can't wait. This reminds me of stalker 2 overexposure issue lol. Still waiting for them to update to the latest UE Engine version to get that fixed.

[sudden pulsar]

So… buy or no buy?

Assuming you’re past the tutorial lol

[faint bobcat]

notice how ACES V2 just nukes hues

https://tenor.com/view/i-kneel-bejita-vegeta-dragon-ball-z-dbs-gif-9873872880292680534

The fella you promoted this to vidya game industry

is a sick man

[faint bobcat]

I havent engaged in any combat since the tutorial