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[vivid iris]

dragon's dogma is definitely a higher quality game in terms of polish than this

[brittle egret]

dd1 or dd2?

dd2 was mid the game, I have 130h on it or so

[golden scaffold]

Straight out of BDO playbook! If you know, you know. I'm not surprised

[brittle egret]

did every map objective

[sudden pulsar]

What I took from the Shill Up preview was that the 10-15h early hours of the game were apparently a biiig slog

[vivid iris]

both

[brittle egret]

I wouldn't say it was a good game, not a bad game

not a 70$+tip game

[sudden pulsar]

And the game’s sandbox only opens up after that

[vivid iris]

dd2 is a game that was constantly on the cusp of being good and then it ends

[brittle egret]

after the first part it falls off, and the combat is kinda ass

[brittle egret]

yea

[ocean onyx]

yeah i'm not playing 10-15 hours of this crap to even begin to understand what's fun about it lol

[brittle egret]

it feels like part of game

[vivid iris]

dd1 is a better game

[golden scaffold]

Well, I probably spent more on BDO underwear... So might as well give it a try they're not asking much, in comparison...

[vivid iris]

but in some ways it's also worse, you gotta be willing ot have less quality of life

[sudden pulsar]

I’m a DD bitch so I ended up being nice with it at times lol

[brittle egret]

I mean I had every skilling outfit, 5 tier3+ pets (I think tier3 was as high as it went), every lodging, etc

I think I owned everything in the cash shop

[vivid iris]

I love dragon's dogma, even the second one lol

[sudden pulsar]

But it really was DD1.5 instead of 2

[brittle egret]

every city had full cash shostorage to save CP for linking citiesp

[golden scaffold]

T4 pets was where was at

[vivid iris]

but 2 was just so disappointing for me that I will shit talk it and then be like "yeah it's great you should play it"

[worn ibex]

You can’t have ray recon with 4.5

[brittle egret]

I played pre server merge, idr what was the highest tier at the time

[sudden pulsar]

Having the final “hidden” area of the game behind a timer of sort was also so frustrating

[lapis smelt]

Nah get it now if you want to play it. Theres something special about playing a game on launch, specially for this one where there seems to be a shit ton of secrets and weirdness to find.

[vivid iris]

I straight up didn't even play that part

[lapis smelt]

The graphical part is a mess though

[vivid iris]

conceptually jsut didn't do it for me

[sudden pulsar]

Like, why would you force me to not enjoy that surprising and new part of the game

[brittle egret]

I still got nioh3 to finish, and plan on going back to runescape; so I wouldnt play this for a while anyway

[vivid iris]

and after the wet fart of a dragon fight compared to the first game I was just kinda done

[sudden pulsar]

As a whole, it felt less coherent that 1 I think, especially narratively

[vivid iris]

yeah

for sure

[golden scaffold]

What got me not come back again after 1 year hiatus my old softcap gear was now "noob tier" so I just said aight imma head out. Still, had the best times ever. Probably last mmo ill ever play. Incredible memories. Can't get that back. Will probably never happen again. Good times!

[sudden pulsar]

That “””story””” was an absolute mess

[vivid iris]

the story was constantly happening somewhere else

somewhere I wasn't

[sudden pulsar]

Yeah

[vivid iris]

the ffxv problem

[brittle egret]

since I did every map objective, got the lingerie for getting all the coins, leveled every class, every sidequest, walked on every pixel of the map

by the time I got to the dragon I was super over-leveled and shit on it

[ocean onyx]

need a kevin video about this game asap

[brittle egret]

I think it was 30 and I was in my 70s or 80s

[brittle egret]

the story was the same as #1

guy tells you to do 3 things 2 times, story progresses, repeat

[sudden pulsar]

But I enjoyed the random moments of the game a lot, like getting into a random cave thing and it turns out to be huge and deep, giving you access to another part of the map

[brittle egret]

ngl I ragequit #1 during the part where you jump in the hole and have to grind trash mobs for 20 thingies

[vivid iris]

the first game was a bit more straight forward with its storytelling. DD2 builds up this political intrigue and does absolutely fuck all with it

[brittle egret]

that part of the game killed my vibe so hard

I also did every sidequest and shit in DD1

walked every pixel on the map

killed the dragon

[sudden pulsar]

Yeah 1 was a lot simpler and to the point than 2 story wise

Not even close

[brittle egret]

only to go grind trash mobs for god knows how long, I just uninstalled it

[faint bobcat]

FF16 be like

[brittle egret]

I did every sidequest and hunt there too

[merry sonnet]

yea.....game is not for me, was thinking it would be a lot better than I expected

[faint bobcat]

Damn Asian games luv to be build politics only to do nothing

[brittle egret]

I get autistic about open world objectives, I like the dopamine of getting DING DING DING OBJECTIVE COMPLETE

thats why I paly oldschool runescape, dopamine the game

[sudden pulsar]

It’s like no one took any lessons from the Star Wars prelogy after two decades lol

[worn ibex]

Literally

I was so excited for ff16 for the story

It did fuck all with it man

[ocean onyx]

it has its moments but no throughline

[brittle egret]

I didnt hate ff16's story; it was pretty mid

cid (the original one) and bahamut where really cool characters

bahamut was prolly my favorite non mc char

[ocean onyx]

benedicta was pretty cool (but underutilized) and most other aspects of the story exist to vibe

[brittle egret]

which one, the girls where sadly all super like

bland

was it the wind one

she was cool but

[lapis smelt]

XVI with Rebirth budget would be something else

[ocean onyx]

yes

[brittle egret]

it felt like they started something

[vivid iris]

I love the characters of ff16, didn't play enough to have much of an opinion on the actual story

[brittle egret]

and quickly killed her off

[ocean onyx]

yeah

and she was still easily their best character

they...weren't doing a whole lot with anyone else

[brittle egret]

the main love interest didnt have that main ff girl appeal like tifa did in FF7

[brittle egret]

yea the rest where like throwaway villians for [insert zone]

honestly my issue with the game was that it had rpg mechanics just for a weapon slot that was linear progression and 2 armor slots

imo if you're not doing good rpg mechanics, just dont add them

if they just had rings/accessories it would've been better

I love RPG mechanics when done right (Nioh)

[ocean onyx]

the rpg mechanics are mostly for legacy purposes

didn't work though

[brittle egret]

ff7 remake (only one I played) went action rpg with watered down mechanics; but still managerd to have really cool materia and weapon systems

[vivid iris]

wow doing the rockstar A to sprint thing while not doing the automatic camera is certainly a choice

[brittle egret]

another FF16 issue is about 40-60% into the game, it becomes a cooldown simulator because your basic attacks do no damage, only skills do; so you just rotate ultimate skills on cooldown and watch the unskippable cutscenes

the first ~30% you actually do the dmc-lite combos with slash shoot slash shoot

jump cancel

[ocean onyx]

i wouldn't especially describe it as a bad thing

[lapis smelt]

she barely speaks, thats why

[brittle egret]

but even with all the issues, its a game I'd suggest playing on sale

[ocean onyx]

instead of doing your routing with the regular mechanics you just substitute the abilities

[brittle egret]

its not bad, not amazing -- just the definition of mid

[ocean onyx]

garuda is really good for that

[lapis smelt]

Sure is a fucking pretty game tho. Art direction included.

[ocean onyx]

i don't think it's amazing, but it's still pretty fun by the end

[icy dragon]

I hated ff16 after putting over 50 hours into it

[lament nymph]

ff16 is a pretty game, simple but tbh I liked it

just because it does 3 things well enough

graphics, cutscene quality and the music

[brittle egret]

but yea if those games are better than this, its kinda worrying

[lament nymph]

like it doesn't need more it actually need less, less mmo bloats, more focus on the story, it would be decent if they just make it not a cooldown based system

[ocean onyx]

almost all games need less

[lapis smelt]

Known Issues

(Last updated: 2026/03/19 22:00 UTC)

In certain situations, the Abyss can be seen from the world below, resulting in slight drops in frame rate.

[lament nymph]

input feels tight and responsive too, character don't drag his feet if u move him around

[lapis smelt]

Absolute wild these patch notes

[lament nymph]

this game tho I move kliff around he keeps bumping into ppl

[ocean onyx]

is this what nietzsche was talking about

[lament nymph]

it's so janky for no reason, games like this should have tight controls to begin with

[lapis smelt]

If you stare too long into the abyss you run out of vram

[lapis smelt]

I like the weighty feeling of movement. Then again I'm one of those sickos who liked the original movement method on witcher3

[final imp]

Dunno game is definitely a bit weird to play, but it’s really not that bad. For interactions u can use lb a lot of the time to pin point. Feels kind of like red dead

[lament nymph]

but then when u press lb u point ur lantern at ppl and it makes them glow

[lapis smelt]

When receiving damage while holding a tree, the character can become stuck to the tree.

hilarious

[lament nymph]

u shouldn't need to hold lb and point at ppl to interact with them, instead just have a crosshair, u point at ppl and press x

[sudden pulsar]

“If you gaze into it long enough, Kevin’s butthole gazes back at you”, as they said back then

[ocean onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

[lament nymph]

I'll be honest, ff15 is prettier than this game and that game was old

with the new dlss mod and renodx ff15 looks nice

[final imp]

Ppl that played Asian games know what’s up lol. All this basically normal

[ocean onyx]

Maplestory has better quest design

[lament nymph]

idk man I grew up playing p2w neowiz games, when they made lies of P I was like this is actually good

compared to their usual stuffs

[final imp]

Also I don’t have my lantern active when I use lb, but I do use my lantern

[ocean onyx]

Lies of p was a banger

[final imp]

Is it just context?

[sudden pulsar]

Bro is going full on shitposting rofl

[final imp]

Or no looks like u just select it in the menu and it’ll stay toggled

[lament nymph]

I grew up playing nexon slop and dungeon fighters so when they made Khazan I was skeptical but then ... that was also a good game

[brittle egret]

yea lies of p was peak

[lament nymph]

stellar blade made by a dev that's known to make gooners game ... I expect less technical polish, for an unreal 4 title it looks fine and ran well, average game but it wasn't janky to play

so when ppl say korean devs these days I expect way more

[brittle egret]

I didnt finish it, but the combat was simple and felt good

controls felt good

[lapis smelt]

story was so so

[lament nymph]

not this, crimson desert is supposed to be their magnum opus

[lapis smelt]

Music was WAY better than I was expecting

But then again they got the guy from Nier to compose some tracks

[lament nymph]

the koreans let me down

when gamefreak releases their dog souls action game and it runs well it's when the world I know is turned completely upside down

[ashen pawn]

red dead interactions will prob top all open world games until gta 6

[ashen pawn]

MY people let me down lmfaooo

[lament nymph]

it felt fine, I just dislike the intentional delay on the parry

I just recently replayed that old korean game magna carta and arcturus

grew up playing gunbound and lineage 2

I know all about korean pain

[lapis smelt]

Gunbound is crazy

Takes me back

[brittle egret]

yo

I loved gunbound

https://tenor.com/didjyfvyR7g.gif

[lament nymph]

the dragon was op but I was shit at aiming so it didn't matter

[faint bobcat]

ultra giga mod unlocked

[broken dirge]

its perfect

[vivid iris]

we are so back

[faint bobcat]

They are doing something wierd with their stencil shader

[ocean onyx]

how close are you to disabling sharpening

[faint bobcat]

uberpost shader decomp now works

working on it

Well Jon is

I am doing whatever the fuk this is

[mortal wolf]

i smell AP1 in there because it has god awful "red"

mhwilds had this ap1 weirdness too iirc

[lapis smelt]

Whats ap1, for someone dumb like me

[wheat elk]

it's a color space

[ocean onyx]

and it's number 1

[sudden pulsar]

The bestest

[vivid iris]

the tone map shader I found (which weirdly has no RTV) does ap1 to bt709 for tone mapping so yeah they render in ap1

[lapis smelt]

This related to ACES?

[vivid iris]

yes but they don't use aces

that I can tell so far

[lapis smelt]

Gotcha, just trying to learn

[blazing ledge]

you ever tried AC Unity? movement and parkour is heavy too

[lapis smelt]

Yep, good game

[rapid pulsar]

is the mod up for ts

[nova cargo]

ac1 has the best parkour

very snappy and good city design

[viscid wedge]

I can't tell if i'm just stupid or does the HDR suck. I've got everything set correctly for my C2 (with HGiG on) but dark areas are just crushed to hell. 800 peak in game.

anything in shadow is just a black hole

[faint bobcat]

welcome to vanilla grading

enjoy your stay

[ocean onyx]

What happens when a game has no art direction

[vivid iris]

this is with a gamma mismatch too I believe

[worn ibex]

Is shadows worth playing?

[worn ibex]

Did koklusz release his analysis yet?

[vivid iris]

needless to say, gamma mismatch will not be fixed, the game does not want it

[worn ibex]

Huh? Is this similar to GoT

[ocean onyx]

....this is just genuinely impressive then

God damn

[worn ibex]

Where LUTs are loaded on to the cpu or something

[ocean onyx]

If he fixes gamma mismatch you'll just quadruple crush everything

[worn ibex]

Oh

Oh yeah makes sense

[ocean onyx]

It's just crushed all the way down

[worn ibex]

God this dude looks so fucking generic man

[gilded plover]

seems like a banger

[ocean onyx]

All the positive reviews are from people who do not understand the horrors of sharpening

[gilded plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kojima-ragebait-crashout-gif-4205545419506003299

[ocean onyx]

This isn't ragebait I'm crashing out

The sharpening will haunt my dreams

[vivid iris]

I guess I shouldn't say that, I don't really know yet

[viscid wedge]

generic dude bro

[worn ibex]

Jon snow…

Kliff…

Acc yknow, nothing stopping me from picking up doom TDA again

[lament nymph]

I'm just playing the game thanks to the magic power of ... caffeine

without it I would just be sleeping rn

[sudden pulsar]

The rainbow thing in the hair is too weird to be intended, it almost looks like a texture that is accessed using the wrong stride for its format in memory

[ocean onyx]

It looks almost like chroma subsampling

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[viscid wedge]

I did have blur turned down to 0, fwiw

[sly niche]

Haha i have not sleeped and was trying to look for motion blur and how to turn it off

[ocean onyx]

Blur intensity is in accessibility settings

[sly niche]

Ah thank you

[sudden pulsar]

I’m especially used to that pattern of grey/green/red when it happens, as I am often doing the mistake myself rofl

[ocean onyx]

The sharpening is so bad I've decided all of this game's visual problems are actually a result of that garbage

[sudden pulsar]

Likely

[viscid wedge]

I didn't realize what you were talking about until.. oh. I see it now.

[sudden pulsar]

Sharpening to the garbage bin

[vivid iris]

yeah the sharpening is ass

[ocean onyx]

Crushed blacks? The sharpening did it

Ray tracing noise? Nah, sharpening induced hallucinations

[nova cargo]

is that grading or their RT being shit

[faint bobcat]

both

Grading nukes

meanwhile RR giga maxxes AO

Anyways, found their lens flares

found their terrain rendering shaders

found IBL

[viscid wedge]

I have to play with RR. Normally running 4K DLAA but if I switch over to quality its a nice boost. Then enabling RR it tanks my framerate down into the 30's. Might just be a me issue, not sure whats up there.

[late marlin]

Been playing this game for a few hours now in HDR on a LG C4 and it looks pretty decent i have to say. I am just a bit confused about the hdr10+ Option. No Idea how i could ever activate this because win11 has No hdr10+ toggle

[viscid wedge]

You don't

[analog root]

I gave up using HDR at least for now, SDR looks so much better

[viscid wedge]

HDR is all sorta screwy. I might for the first time in 3 years play a game in SDR for now.

[analog root]

In almost 1 whole year having an oled monitor I'm gonna do the same

[faint bobcat]

The game has ReSTIR

We have been lied to

[late marlin]

Really? Havent really tried. But i am amazed how Well this game runs on my 5070 ti. Everything max with RR 4k dlss Performance mfg X4 i can reach 140fps. And gsync keeps the input lag pretty low. When the FPS goes down a bit, there arent any frame pacing issues so no vrr flicker even though its on OLED. Amazing

[analog root]

I've played the first 4h with HDR on, 5070ti too 1440p dlss balanced. I just tried SDR and boom, much better colors at least in my opinion. HDR looks washed out

[late marlin]

Now that you mention it, yes SDR does look better. Thanks for the advice. I guess we have to wait for a renodx Mod then 😄

[sly niche]

Holy that does look better, dont forget the srgb to gamma fix if you keep HDR enabled in windows

[analog root]

You're welcome! Hard to have a good native implementation of HDR. Let's just keep it at SDR for now

[nova cargo]

some of these pics look really good

well not really

but solid overall

[nova cargo]

this one

[ocean onyx]

What is that grass

[nova cargo]

some of the pics I've seen are cursed though

[late marlin]

The night looked decent on my end with popping lights

[analog root]

It's a little strange some places look kinda good. But most of the time I found it washed as hell

[nova cargo]

ya no shadowing

[faint bobcat]

Just checked

[analog root]

Yeah the night at the city is cool

[faint bobcat]

They apply weak GI

That's it

[ocean onyx]

It looks like chicken that was cooked in an air fryer for a week

[nova cargo]

some areas look crushed to shit while others are washed I guess

[ocean onyx]

This sharpenmaxxing lives rent free in my head

[analog root]

[ocean onyx]

I don't give a shit about the lack of AO

Stop deep frying it please god

[late marlin]

I have a feeling that this sharpenfilter that bdo has, also is in Crimson Desert. The one you can only disable through a config. I am ok with it though, i love it

I like oversharpened plastic Pictures as long as there is no aliasing 😄

[lament nymph]

there's a lot of issues with sharpening in this game

[late marlin]

I just wish i could use dlss 4.5 preset m while having Ray reconstruction on, but unfortunately thats not possible. Ah man

[vivid iris]

untonemapped image

[lament nymph]

doesn't make my eyes hurt

[teal pumice]

wow this game is so SHARP

[ocean onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

Me when crimson desert sharpening

[lament nymph]

I wonder if there's a nude mod yet

[analog root]

Same. Preset L and M look so so nice

But I can't deal with the rt noise it's too much for me

[late marlin]

I am looking out for mods on nexusmods too for Performance optimization. But its been out for a few hours so i just let them cook a bit. And no idea if you can even do much modding with this engine

[late marlin]

Exactly. The visual difference is so high. RR looses a bit sharpness but I use reshade to gain a slightly bit

[faint bobcat]

@ocean onyx so the reason why the game runs like PT

is because they use Restir

acktually

[placid snow]

doesn't RR delete the rain though

[teal pumice]

wtf

game is not using PT?

[analog root]

Yes it does

[ocean onyx]

Lmao well I guess that makes sense

[nova cargo]

ap1 color grading?

or are primaries mismatched

[vivid iris]

this might be a nonsense image

[faint bobcat]

yes because they didnt read RR spec and make a custom transparency mask for rain

I can fix that in the rain shader

[sudden pulsar]

Wtf lol

[faint bobcat]

game without it

love how the metals all glow

oh fuck right off

they use tiled shaders

atleast theres only two

hated worked on BG3's tiled deferred bs

[rough granite]

Will it be possible to do something about the pop in? Or better get used to it?

[faint bobcat]

get used to it

[vivid iris]

pearl abyss never beating the gooner allegations

[faint bobcat]

jiggl doesnt need to refer to just booba

[vivid iris]

don't ruin my joke

might be grading too but

gotta wait on all these shaders so I can see if there's a lutbuilder (there probably is)

[foggy cove]

ngl i don't fuck with the combat after getting to the first boss

[lament nymph]

there's a boss? I'm just out here stealing from manors and have no idea what to do with the loot

[foggy cove]

i was just mindlessly following objective

none of it made any since

[lament nymph]

somehow I got a key to open most of the normal house doors and I have no idea from where

[undone mica]

combat to me feels fine so far, everything else tho lol

[foggy cove]

idk maybe the boss was just ass

parry wasn't really any help

i could stagger him and then he'd still attack back then i'd be stuck in a animation and couldn't do anything

hornsplitter

[undone mica]

yeah, idk just spammed the r1 + r2 attack

seems op bc it refills bar for some reason sometimes

and its invincible

[modest hatch]

Main issue personally is controls

Absolute dog

Performance kinda but dlss quality without RR at cinematic is fine for now

[faint bobcat]

Anyways

we're off to bed

enjoy peak slopa

in the meanwhile

[rough granite]

from the get go in first scene all the grass in shadows is flickering ... all maxed out with RR, wonder if its because I dont have latest Nvidia drivers

[runic aspen]

try DLAA + FG

x2

:3

[modest hatch]

Better than dlss q and no fg?

[runic aspen]

oh

haven;t try that, but with the amount of foliage for some reason this way looks quite good

[modest hatch]

I’ll try

Foliage is pretty bad NGL

[runic aspen]

i will had play in 60 fps if it was the case

but since i can do up to x4 FG i chose what i likem X2

[modest hatch]

Can you send an ss of foliage on your game

[runic aspen]

for some reason the pic always looks off

cuz i use snipping tool

XD

[rough granite]

Meh why does it flicker so bad

only does it with RR on

[runic aspen]

@modest hatch here i got the settings for Crimson Desert, and it looks quite good in my opinion
https://youtu.be/9ig5PT5yDDk?si=vuLUPwn9nuj32B6I

[glass axle]

foliage is fucked up i tried every settings, eat sloppa or wait for a fix i guess copium

[tawny ravine]

Chat is this true

[real stag]

yo so how's the game guys?

graphics aside is it fun?

[cosmic zenith]

Combat and exploring is fun, the story and dialogue is just like that pic above so far

[real stag]

okay so more or less what was expected I guess

[tame vault]

That's how MMOs are I guess

[cosmic zenith]

No opinion on the controls either, I'm using KBM and I think it's fine, but I rebounded everything to my preferences

I also play Monster hunter on KBM and people say I'm crazy for that, so who knows

[green gulch]

played the game,. still not yet used to the controller layout. RB and RT for hack and slash.. yea...

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, saw some of the controller binds for skills and they seem kinda hard to do midcombat

[real stag]

oh yea so like GoW 2018 and Ragnarok

[green gulch]

yea its gonna take a while. im so much used to just X and Y

I cant change the layout bcoz of what I heard about the combos

do you guys play it on korean VO? I think its much better

[cosmic zenith]

Oh, I had it set to English

I may swap it if the Korean VOs are more lively

Everyone kinda just talks like they're reading their script in english

[undone mica]

Game is a whole lot of nothing burger rn, the quests feel like side quests that go nowhere

[cosmic zenith]

I got to play it early, so I can assure you the quests get a lot better content wise, but the story still felt flat by the end of chapter 5

[lament nymph]

the control scheme is horrible, the movement is clunky very unfun to play

[green gulch]

end of chapter 5, so its like 500hrs after? /s

[lament nymph]

also the dev says the game rewards exploration, so far it doesn't actually reward anything but lots of padded content that matters not

you feel like doing MMO at your pace

not A/C checkboxes bad since you have to find them like bounty and stuffs

but time wasting just the same

[cosmic zenith]

I found a good amount of neat stuff during my play. Most of the notable locations in the world have unique gear or a unique boss

[brittle egret]

not gonna lie, I prefer Stranger of Paradise meme shit vs. something super serious

[lament nymph]

this is a better looking game ngl

[cosmic zenith]

You're not wrong. The story is genuinely just kinda bland. I was told that chapter 7 kinda goes crazy though and pushes the story into something more silly/fun

But I think it was more of a "fun combat and enemies" thing rather than fun writing

[tawny ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

The Eikon fights are still some of the most impressive boss fights visually I have ever seen in a game

[lament nymph]

ppl shit on dlss implementation for the pc version of ff16 but since the game was designed around fsr1 with limited aliasing on selected objects, preset L was perfect

not blurring like pre dlss 4

particle effects are kept intact

it looks so much better with L

[brittle egret]

sounds like the "it gets good after 100 episodes" anime meme

I dont mind a game getting good 20 hours in if its a 150 hour game

but if it gets good 20 hours in and is a 30 hour game, yea idk man

[lament nymph]

I'm sure it will gets good if you have the patient to fight the controls till you get used to it

once mercs unlock, sending them out, getting $ doing nothing, camp functions

like an MMO but not gated behind stamina mechanics

👌

[undone mica]

Don't have the patience for that lol

[cosmic zenith]

I mean, it's definitely not a 30 hour game lol
And I just meant the story, gameplay really takes off once you get out of the first two chapters and can just go explore

[teal pumice]

just wait for Forge fixing everything

[brittle egret]

I was making an example

[teal pumice]

[rough granite]

hope we can disable cutscene black bars, no go with ShaderToggler

[brittle egret]

boo

thats part of the experiance

no taste

no culture

I've played all of TEW1 with black bars ontop/bottom because thats how the game was intended to be played

only 50 patches later did they add an option to remove the black bars

[rough granite]

I have a big screen, i'd rather see everything instead of 60% of the image

at least make it an option

i like some black bars myself, but like,10-15% max, not cinematic aspect level

[cosmic zenith]

Hope there's an FOV mod too, I want an over the shoulder cam or first person that isn't nauseating

[stark arch]

the chromatic aberration is pretty horrible in crimson, no?

[radiant pivot]

We need the Mod

[stark arch]

ye this game reminds me a bit of how E33 looks out of the box. Horrible sharpener and chromatic aberration

hopefully someone figures out a way to turn it off

[teal pumice]

thats shinji mikami's design from original re4

[flat delta]

What happens if I select dlss 4.5 within crimson desert but also enable ray reconstruction? Which denoisee is taking effect?

[teal pumice]

That game was 16:9 in a 4:3 container

tew1 was 21:9 in 16:9

[stark arch]

it will use the old RR model (theres no new)

[teal pumice]

It does nothing

[stark arch]

but DLSS 4.5 is not useable to me anyway in this game without some way to tune down the sharpening, its way worse with 4.5 if u dont use RR

[teal pumice]

you can even delete the 4.5 dll

[brittle egret]

didnt know og re4 had that too

[plush parcel]

They have the SAME horrible eye adaptation in HDR as in SDR ?? Are they stupid

[rough granite]

also show me the skip buttons at every cutscene ~~ how to break immersion

[covert ruin]

the stars dimming when i pan the sky, is it because RR uses an older version of DLSS?

[tawny ravine]

Rip the 10 people using arc gpus

[brittle egret]

ngl I respect this more than if they just pushed out half ass support

and then went "intel gpus suck, not our fault"

[tawny ravine]

I mean yeah that's fair but from what I'm hearing they did not put out any disclaimer that the game won't run on arc before the game released

Which if true is a dick move

[brittle egret]

I mean they're refunding everybody regardless of time, so all of those 10 people are getting a refund

minor inconvinence at most

you know I cant even blame them, arc gpus are already super obscure; like I forget they exist until somebody brings them up

and I bet in asia they're even more obscure

I wouldnt be surprised if they learned what an arc gpu is after the game launched

[tawny ravine]

True true I doubt either way the game would run at all on arc gpus. Last what I saw the performance on them was pretty bad in general

[brittle egret]

exactly

[tawny ravine]

Wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any builds with arc gpus in Asia

And there have been rumors for some time that Intel will give up on the arc gpus

But dunno how credible thst is

[fleet jacinth]

Which dlss do i pick for when I use rt and rr, or does it automatically pick the correct one?

[flat delta]

The eye adaptation effect in this game is so broken 💀

[polar crow]

I think RR can only use dlss 4.0 because its preset D which is an old model

[teal pumice]

ya its the true og version (gamecude) though, later versions have native 16:9 but they werent done by shinji mikami

[teal pumice]

Btw do you know tew1 japanese version has a completely different name and is censored

its called psychobreak when translated into english

[flint moss]

The noise without rr is just crazy

[tacit raft]

So is it fake HDR or nah?

Could someone give me a story so far summary

[rapid pulsar]

ray reconstruction looks so fucking bad man they need to update to 4.5

[carmine stump]

Rofl, just tested without RR. The oversharpening is gross.

The higher the res, the worse it looks, for example DLAA at 4K.

[subtle sinew]

Good HDR but crap color grading with crushed blacks in SDR and HDR
It's the pearl abyss special
They need to fire whoever did color grading on crimson desert and black desert

[tame vault]

Why does dlaa have major issues at top of screen? It's broken

[lament nymph]

combat is kinda ass ngl

[rough granite]

i'm using Reshade Prod80 Shadow/MidTone/Hightlights shader to increase Shadow exposure to fix a bit a crushed blacks

[lament nymph]

so floaty , delayed input, whateveert the fk

[subtle sinew]

Combat is good you just have a million inputs to get used to and control your timing

[potent spear]

So is anyone actually enjoying the game?

[ivory sapphire]

thought the delayed input was because frame gen. But I like the combat so far.

[analog root]

I'm finding it nice and chill to play, relaxing game I would say

Exploring is rewarding and the side quests are pretty easy too

[ivory sapphire]

I like it. I'm only 2 hours in though but I like how lively the world feels

[potent spear]

I was looking for anything positive filtering through the negatives in here, but it was hard to find lmao

[carmine stump]

The atmosphere is amazing

[subtle sinew]

It's pretty good if you went in with the right expectations of it being a game more focused on combat and exploration than story
Cutscenes and dialogue are good even if they are meaningless

[potent spear]

I mean I know what to expect from what I've seen and it's peak mid

As long as the world feels good, that's what's important for me in games like this

[subtle sinew]

Nah combat, traversal, atmosphere and cutscenes make it way better than mid

[potent spear]

I mean that's good

[subtle sinew]

The story might be mid yes but everything else I wouldn't agree

[potent spear]

Just saying that was my expectation

[analog root]

Yeah dialogue and cutscenes are okayish.

Not entirely bad but not remarkable

[subtle sinew]

Yeah I'm glad they at least didn't do the forespoken type dialogue

[potent spear]

Looks to be one of the more polarising games in recent times though. Some people love it, and others think it's the worst shit they have ever seen

[subtle sinew]

It got over hyped and it's over correcting now to being a bad game

[potent spear]

Who's fault is the over hyping I wonder. I believe even the pearl abyss pr guy told people not to overhype stuff

But it still happened

[analog root]

I feel like the only issue is that even though kliff seems to be a nice guy and has a nice VA he seems so soulless

[potent spear]

I'm looking forward to sinking my weekend into this. Looks like my kinda game even with the jank

[subtle sinew]

Yeah that and shit just happens to him and he barely reacts lmao
Getting the glider wings and jumping off a sky island is another Tuesday

[analog root]

Braindead dialogue ngl

[carmine stump]

Can you only leave the game via title screen? Jeeez

[analog root]

Yes

But you can just save and close it alt tabing and hope that doesn't cause any problems

Well I've done it sometimes

[rustic urchin]

Whole clan got wiped 5min later act like nothing happened

[carmine stump]

I won't risk that

[analog root]

Let's hope they add the exit to desktop option in a future patch

[potent spear]

Anyone got a clue what value in hdr settings equates to 100 pw?

UI brightness 5 seems to be just above 100 nits, but the exposure setting itself is confusing to me

[worn ibex]

I think they alr fixed it?

[subtle sinew]

Rain looked fine to me as well with RR but I only tested in overcast daylight
Seemed like a worst case scenario tho

[sterile sable]

Will it get better with Lillium blackfloor fix?

[thick hull]

the very large black smudges and smearing on characters and everything is driving me nuts

[timid prairie]

Just trying the game, anyone encountered weird bug wherein the game is stuck at 56fps?

even in menu lol

[edgy raft]

are people with 4080 or better using ultra or cinematic?

[neon whale]

don't think it matters that much. the only real difference is maximum lighting and RR

where RR activates maximum lighting anyway

[edgy raft]

thanks!

I'll just crank it all and go from there lol

[sterile sable]

no but check reflex on vs off, I have this issue in Hitman 3 in exclusive fullscreen when reflex on caps me to 225 fps no matter what

[edgy raft]

depth of field being under accessibility, rofl

[carmine stump]

Yeah happened to me, after fiddeling with settings. Had to restart game.

[timid prairie]

If I turn on FG, GPU usage shoots to 99% as expected, but when fg is off its stuck at 59%

[timid prairie]

okay I'll try

[carmine stump]

Yeah, could be FG which was triggering the bug.

[edgy raft]

oh wow lighting quality going from cinematic to max tanks fps

oh

it turned off RR

[timid prairie]

thanks, you are correct. FG is causing it. Only workaround to mitigate the 56fps bug when turning off FG is to restart the game

[edgy raft]

RR is so heavy, damn. Even on a 4080 I don't think I can use it.

[carmine stump]

Sadly, I could not play without RR. Especially indoor location can look horrible with all the noise, shimmering, boiling etc.
Iam fortunate having a 4090

[edgy raft]

Yeah I don't want to play without

looks like it's a return for me till I have something better

[flint moss]

Fr I've tried too many times on my 4070 ti super, but I've decided to accept my fate lol

The more I play the more I like it ngl

[edgy raft]

I'm getting 70+ ms of latency with it on

can't play like that lol

[open swan]

Rewarding how? I see different opinions and im curious as im still on the verge of buying

[golden scaffold]

First sentence from one of my favourite content creators reviewing the game: "I've been playing it for 6 hours, and... My eyes hurt"

"the graphics are the weirdest thing"

[lament nymph]

hdr makes it worse so I play on sdr now

[golden scaffold]

No way?

[plush parcel]

so much popping boiling noising, 0 stability

[golden scaffold]

Looking at actual review of the control scheme and UI this maybe looks like a little too much like BDO after all. 😆 But I wouldn't mind that. Any other BDO veterans here?

But it somehow... Seems even worse?

[elfin hollow]

Hmm, display commander doesn't seem to be detecting FG? Is anyone else getting this?

[low violet]

i have a 4080s and i use cinematic with rr on and dlss q 4.5L

i get around 80-100 fps depending on the scene

[digital quest]

You cant use dlss 4.5 with rr

It falls back to 4.0

[low violet]

oh does it show it in the settings that its 4.0? or it just wont work?

[digital quest]

It wont work because RR doesnt shares presets with upscaling.
It has its own presets. A B C is CNN and D, E is transformer 1

[plush parcel]

with RR ON and dlss quality i get 30 fps on a 5070ti

[digital quest]

AMD's ray regeneration is seperate from upscaling
Nvidia's ray reconstruction denoising + upscaling at the same time

[plush parcel]

@low violet what's your resolution

[chrome sun]

hdr colors looks weird to me

[flint moss]

I wish 4.5 would work with rr, then I could use ultra performance at 4k and still looks good enough

[low violet]

2560 1440

[polar crow]

Why tf does RR activate lighting max? It destroys the performance completely

[plush parcel]

They will change that, surely

[modest hatch]

I’ll check it out

[chrome sun]

Is there a way to deactivate chromatic aberration ?

This thing is awful on my screen, still don't understand why devs use this and why it's not toggleable

[delicate merlin]

i think the max brightness slider is doing something weird, it brightens the entire image and adds more saturation the higher it is instead of just raising the peak brightness of highlights

[crude marsh]

the tonemapping is just super fucked and reno is only hope for fixing it, not to mention the plethora of other things causing issues

[chrome sun]

What do you mean ? I have 4.5 and rr activated in my game

[crude marsh]

D and E are DLSS 4.0 models

[flint moss]

Yeah I don't understand why they lock it at max lighting, let us play around at lower lighting settings and decide for ourselves

[flint moss]

Even if u have it on 4.5 it defaults back to 4.0 if u turn on rr

Well it doesnt tell u that lol

[unborn sail]

that’s how reflex works if vsync and gsync are enabled

not a bug

[potent spear]

So having HDR and DLAA on at the same causes this black flickering accross the top of the screen. Not sure if it happens on all resolutions

[karmic void]

My man, did u give a look to the engine? Anyway u can do something to unslop it a bit?

[hasty onyx]

Did reno upload a hdr mod for crimson desert?

[crude marsh]

Forge and Jon are probably the only hope at fixing some things

this game is an absolute nightmare

[potent spear]

I'm in awe of how ass it can look, and then in the next scene it looks okay

[karmic void]

It would be cool if we had some RT options to work with

[elfin niche]

we will have hdr fix ?

[karmic void]

who is this guy?

[hasty onyx]

Pc hdr is so shi

Its so dark

Sdr is really good tho

[lament nymph]

some youtube hdr expert, we know how it goes

[crude marsh]

yeah just people who have no idea what they are talking about

this is one of the technically worst games released in quite some time

[nova cargo]

generally if people on social media like the hdr then its bad

cause people that are into hdr are obsessed with minmaxxing their tv

[carmine stump]

In what way exactly?

[tame vault]

So whilst we wait for about a bazillion fixes to this game, mostly from modders, I'm thinking the current play (for 5090 users anyway) is to just crank up to max, RR on, FG X2, DLSS balanced (maybe performance?), lock to 120, motion blur off, lower exposure rather a lot

Accept it's a mess

[crude marsh]

pretty much everything about the graphics is a technical mess

shadows, LODs, RT, textures, tonemapping

its a hand rolled mish mash of old and new technologies

[lament nymph]

this is one of the technically technically challenged game of time

[crude marsh]

and performs pretty poorly considering the "optimizations" they applied

[analog root]

Which exposure setting would be the "optimal"?

[crude marsh]

particularly relative to the hype its rough

[analog root]

I was expecting much better performance ngl. And with RR off the game is such a noisy mess. I can't stand it

[lament nymph]

they showed the game running so good using ... hardware ... and it turns out it looks like shit without RR and RT

scam

[crude marsh]

RR off the RT is at like 1/8th resolution

on its full res

thats why there is a big performance gap

[carmine stump]

Yeah, I agree. It looks good to me so far but only maxed out with RR at 4K with DLSS balanced. Standard denoiser is a shame

[crude marsh]

this is my favorite

[analog root]

[digital quest]

broccoli

[analog root]

What is this game man, 7 years in development btw

[carmine stump]

But at least frametimes seem to be really good. No nasty hiccups.

[analog root]

Gameplay is nice tho

[sterile sable]

No it's not. I have 320hz panel and Reflex should cap my fps to 295 and it does in borderless fulscreen but after last update in Hitman it only caps it to 225 no matter what in Exclusive Fullscreen, I can return it to 295 with some RTSS fuckery but it needed to be done every restart. And unfortunately Hitman 3 has HDR only in exclusive fullscreen

[crude marsh]

also the scenes intensity changing by like half when looking a slightly different direction is pretty incredible

standing in broad daylight

[lament nymph]

RR in the gambling den is full of boiling and ghosting

it can't possibly gets worse

[carmine stump]

Even with RR? Oh jeez

[crude marsh]

al the light sources are also........ mini fusion reactors

LED candles

[lament nymph]

without RR idk how bad it could get

[carmine stump]

XD

[final imp]

Yall doing the lords work here

[flint moss]

I mean so far we're just shitting on the game xd

[crude marsh]

Forge showed some progress of modifying shaders last night

so there is some hope

[main anchor]

why the menus use FGX4 when my settings are on X2

[hidden ivy]

does tabbing out and back in break controller inputs for anyone else?

[teal pumice]

dont worry Forge expected that long time ago

he will fix everything

[teal pumice]

looks shit based on his ss

white blob right on your face

[unborn sail]

yup that’s a bug then

needed the context of 320hz monitor

[fallen hedge]

Did anyone try bff for this game?

[rough granite]

Forge did something with Black Desert if I understood?

[polar crow]

I get 50fps with RR but Fg on it still is at 50fps, what gives?

[ocean onyx]

And to think the hdr isn't as bad as the sharpening

Sharpenmaxxing

[vivid iris]

got my full dump + decomp now and they are not making tracking down this lutbuilder easy

[lapis smelt]

Kinda off topic but its hilarious that Nvidia is backtracking completely from DLSS5

[polar crow]

not to be an ass but when can we expect the renodx mod?

[mortal wolf]

Use the MCP

[lapis smelt]

Its in progress, but hard to say

[lapis smelt]

Is Vsync on?

[crude marsh]

they are also rendering something at half res that shouldnt be, this is from the skyline

[vivid iris]

how do I set that up/use it?

[polar crow]

vsync is off ingame, on in ncp

[karmic void]

wait wut?!

[mortal wolf]

Build the bridge exe, and set it up based on your ai

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/docs/DEVKIT_MCP.md

DevKit is always listening for connections

[vivid iris]

thanks!

[ocean onyx]

Is there anything about this game working well

[crude marsh]

guessing that with RR the denoiser switches and whatever is half res that was corrected spatially by the non RR denoiser is now spatially incorrect

[vivid iris]

hmmmm it's not building. I already updated to latest and recursed with init on submodules

[mortal wolf]

Error?

[vivid iris]

[build] ninja: error: rebuilding 'build-Release.ninja': subcommand failed
[build] FAILED: CMakeFiles/impl-Debug.ninja build-Debug.ninja CMakeFiles/impl-Release.ninja build-Release.ninja CMakeFiles/impl-RelWithDebInfo.ninja build-RelWithDebInfo.ninja build.ninja C:/Users/jong8/source/repos/renodx/build/cmake_install.cmake C:/Users/jong8/source/repos/renodx/build/CTestTestfile.cmake 
[build] "C:\Program Files\CMake\bin\cmake.exe" --regenerate-during-build -SC:\Users\jong8\source\repos\renodx -BC:\Users\jong8\source\repos\renodx\build
[proc] The command: "C:\Program Files\CMake\bin\cmake.EXE" --build C:/Users/jong8/source/repos/renodx/build --config Release --target mcp_bridge -- exited with code: 1```

doesn't seem helpful

[mortal wolf]

Hmm. Wasn't in snapshot either

I lied

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/releases/download/snapshot/renodx-mcp-bridge.exe

[vivid iris]

should anything happen when I run this without making any other changes? Cause it just closes right away

oh nvm, I found the config section

seems a little strange to have it at the bottom of the .md

[wispy crown]

So I tried Preset E and Preset D for Ray Reconstruction. Both are quite a boiling mess and I honestly can't see much difference between them. Any preferences here?

[vivid iris]

nvm that seems unrelated to this issue

[mortal wolf]

you don't run it. the ai does. it's at the bottom because the ai should read the md and it's a waste of context if it's at the top, but i can move the setup instructions to another md

[vivid iris]

oooo that makes sense

[lament nymph]

the ppl that makes this game has no idea how trees sway irl, not this violently

wind is always blowing at full rpm

[wispy crown]

I don't think it's supposed to sway like irl. It's a fantasy game in a fantasy world

[vivid iris]

it built, I didn't expect a duplicate shader in the crimsondesert folder to make a completely different build target fail

[carmine stump]

Don’t worry, I will fix that and tied it to gpu fan speed for no reason

[lament nymph]

why do they need the GI to be ray traced when it's just a fantasy world, lighting doesn't have to be realistic

[rough cliff]

bro ikr, i hope a mod can fix it

[rough cliff]

it looks pretty shit without RT lol

and baked GI is expensive and storage heavy nowadays, for modern games

if AC Shadows were to prebake its RTGI for all times of day, etc, itd be 2 terabytes and take 2 years to bake

[faint bobcat]

use NTC to compress

[digital quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3DRx3VQQs

[digital quest]

That is a horrible take ngl

[wispy crown]

I wouldn't say the GI is very realistic either. The game's GI is quite tuned to high contrast scenes and a harsh falloff to complete black. It's just artistic intent isn't it? Also lighting the entire world without realtime GI would be a nightmare.

[lament nymph]

this game is a nightmare

[faint bobcat]

i found that dogshit hair thing

built into their tiled deferred shaders

rainbow fringing on dark hair

@sudden pulsar

[ocean onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/slop-nuggets-gif-27588279

[faint bobcat]

and ofc they use Lambert

[sudden pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-cute-kid-gif-17937097

[faint bobcat]

they tried replicating that effect

they encode specular peak shifts

to produce the rainbow fringing

[plush parcel]

This game is a advertisement for UE5 and Unity and a warning against creating your own engine

[rough cliff]

https://x.com/hardwareunboxed/status/2034764653428187168?s=46&t=pfsCeHyyP07B7BO22hlJkQ

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

In this video we talk about how using upscaling (especially at lower modes) makes the game blurrier with lower texture detail

This is NOT fixed in the launch patch released today

X · Mar 19, 2026, 10:51 PM

Yikes

Maybe this is why it looks so bad when upscaled

They forgot to setup mip-map bias

[plush parcel]

So it's not just DLSS ? I've never played with anything lower than Quality. I tried performance and balanced in this game and was like... It's so blurry how are people using this

[ocean onyx]

Can't tell it's blurry over all the sharpenmaxxing going on

[tame vault]

Does this sort the lod bias issue?

[wispy crown]

I tried the negative lod bias and it made no difference at all

[rough cliff]

seems to be with any upscaler, even on PS5 pro with PSSR2 people are complaining it looks a lot blurrier than it should

[carmine stump]

There is massive difference in sharpness with DLSS without RR vs with RR. Very strange.

[wispy crown]

Yes DLSS RR looks incredibly blurry in comparison to DLSS4 and DLSS4.5

[spare quartz]

RR has always been softer in anti aliasing and has boiling. But its sharper with RT effects like reflections and preserving lighting through the noise

[lament nymph]

and DF is like " BEST OPTIMIZED GAME OF THE DECADE " ... maybe that's overselling it but you get the point

never liked those guys to begin with

[carmine stump]

Yeah I know, but I think once RR is disabled there is some extra sharpening on top when only using DLSS.

[wispy crown]

They didn't say that though? Also the game is running quite well performance wise. No stuttering at all which can't be said about most games out there.

[spare quartz]

Is so much spam common in this server. all I see is this jake paul guy's comments trashing this game

[lament nymph]

yes

[rough cliff]

https://x.com/videotechuk_/status/2034978880792953151?s=46&t=pfsCeHyyP07B7BO22hlJkQ

ben (@videotechuk_)

PSA: Everyone must disable 120hz and VRR in your PS5 settings for Crimson Desert. The difference in clarity is staggering with those disabled.

There's a current a game bug which destroys the resolution.

Here's a comparison:

X · Mar 20, 2026, 1:02 PM

So buggy

[ocean onyx]

Only in threads for mods made by forge

[rough cliff]

How does it even get released like this lol

[digital quest]

When a new hit game comes out it is always like this. Not talking about Jake Paul spesifically about in general. Happened in RE9 too

[spare quartz]

yes hot takes

[lament nymph]

wdym spesifically

[faint bobcat]

authors work, everyone else shitposts

[digital quest]

He mentioned your name and I said its not you but in general

[ocean onyx]

It helps that there isn't a game worth playing for this one

[spare quartz]

is there an hdr analysis of this game yet?

[faint bobcat]

its perfect

which is why we're working on an addon

[ocean onyx]

It's autohdr

[mortal wolf]

oh, the game is on ps5

[wispy crown]

Na come on that's just not true at all

[mortal wolf]

that explains all that massive amount of 16bit-half code

which is useless on nvidia and just degrades the quality

it's an AMD-only optimization

[faint bobcat]

yes

its griefing me

[spare quartz]

i mean like in re9 there was just gamma mismatch but otherwise it was functional

[faint bobcat]

this is an AMD sponsored title

[lament nymph]

is it?

grok is that true

[faint bobcat]

why else do you think it looks like dookie

well it looks like dookie becasue theyre abusing VRS

[digital quest]

this happens because of that potentially?

[ocean onyx]

Many reasons for that

[mortal wolf]

amd does 16bit half math something like 2x as 32bit float. nvidia runs float and half at the same speed

[faint bobcat]

probably

and their sampling gets griefed

when you use upscaling

[lament nymph]

weird color grading and chromatic aberration makes me eyes hurt, I had LASIK not to see this garbage

[faint bobcat]

Nukem already told me how to disable VRS

[lament nymph]

I'm gonna go back to being near sighted again

[faint bobcat]

just need to get around to do it per shader

[mortal wolf]

this is steamdeck gpu (AMD)

[spare quartz]

there's parallax map issues with ray reconstruction enabled

[faint bobcat]

theres POM issues

[mortal wolf]

this is PS5

so yeah, this is an AMD game

[forest path]

oh so it's turbo trash

[mortal wolf]

starfield was like that too, faster on AMD at launch

[forest path]

lol

anything amd touches just becomes cursed

[faint bobcat]

never beating the allegations

[mortal wolf]

and i know starfield had some half stuff. but they branched it at least

[wispy crown]

All this AMD optimization and it still runs much better on Nvidia GPUs

[ocean onyx]

The funny thing is this game runs worse on amd than lower tier Nvidia gpus

[rough cliff]

Will renoDX be able to fix a lot of the issues with poor upscaling and vrs and shit on Nvidia?

[ocean onyx]

So the game is just shite

[mortal wolf]

right now the decompiler is being griefed because there's so much half stuff that i have to account for

[faint bobcat]

it will also do your taxes and give you a foot rub hopefully

[mortal wolf]

like wtf if half3 (16 + 16 + 16 = 48). i have to load two 32bits and chop off half the second one

[rough cliff]

I just know renoDX can fix some of those issues sometimes so I wasn’t sure lol, would be nice if it could

[lament nymph]

it's about high time you guys listen to this guy, he fixed all this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW4sb4P1Nk

going to bed

[wispy crown]

Yeah rain invisible and POM issues fixed as well please /s

[flint moss]

This shimmering without rr is driving me crazy. ItS gOt RaYtRaCiNg!

[sudden pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/yasss-honey-yes-finger-snap-gif-16442220

[lament nymph]

even with rr, go to the gambling den, it's filled with this fog and if you turn the camera, there's ghosting and boiling both

it's the worst of both worlds

[wispy crown]

It got 1/16th RT. The other 15/16th must be imagined by RR

[lament nymph]

rn there isn't a solution to make this looks good

[unborn sail]

you can really see the passion in his eyes

[crude marsh]

RR does run higher native sampling which is why it looks tolerable with RR

well.... more tolerable

[spare quartz]

amd sponsred games always have too low raycount

[crude marsh]

and also why its so expensive

[wispy crown]

You can run Max with normal denoiser too which flickers even more.

[crude marsh]

afaik its hidden behind the RR setting

[wispy crown]

No it's not. The Max Lighting settings are visible without RR as well.

The rest of the performance cost is just the denoiser. Quite the same as you can see in Star Wars Outlaws as well

[worn ibex]

I’m pretty sure the GPUs are built in Asia

[fleet jacinth]

It's RR available on lower lighting settings?

[crude marsh]

I am pretty sure running RR forces the rays per pixel to be higher and without RR its max like 1/8th samples per pixel

[fleet jacinth]

Is

[wispy crown]

Yeah GPU chips come from TSMC right?

[wispy crown]

Why?

[scenic adder]

RR just forces the maximum lighting setting, you can access it without RR too

[worn ibex]

I’m pretty sure they come from intels own fabs in Israel

[crude marsh]

well, I guess I cant confirm it but it is what several folks have said and lines up with the performance cost

RR should not be a massive cost if implemented correctly

[wispy crown]

Higher Ray Count => Max Lighting setting forced in RR
Higher Denoiser cost => RR itself

That's the only things that happen

[crude marsh]

should be fairly neutral

[wispy crown]

That's wrong. See Avatar Frontiers of Pandora or Star Wars Outlaws. RR is much more expensive than the basic denoisers used in these games.

[mortal wolf]

oh god, are they RR'ing in half on nvidia? 💀

[crude marsh]

no, its not wrong

if implemented correctly

it will still be more costly in general, but not insanely expensive

you can do things with RR that you cant do with other denoisers like using lower sample counts and still get a better result

[wispy crown]

What does implemented correctly mean? Ray Reconstruction denoiser is quite expensive. I don't have the source right now but it can be multiple ms of frametime.

[digital quest]

RR is heavy on if we look at all the rr implemented games, they do not have cost high as Crimson Desert

They either botched the implementation or do something extra when enabling RR

[crude marsh]

you would optimize the sampling to be used with RR at a lower cost because it can still produce a good image

versus needing to crank everything for other denoisers to be tolerable

[scenic adder]

They force the lighting quality to max, that contributes to it

[mortal wolf]

float _282 = float((uint)((int)(((uint)((int)(_rayleighScatteringColor)) >> 16) & 255))) * 1.960784317134312e-07f;
float _283 = float((uint)((int)(((uint)((int)(_rayleighScatteringColor)) >> 8) & 255))) * 1.960784317134312e-07f;
float _284 = float((uint)((int)(_rayleighScatteringColor & 255))) * 1.960784317134312e-07f;

they input colors into the shader as 8bit hex rgb and they don't even go to linear, just srgb

[wispy crown]

Yeah but the raycounts are already incredibly low.

[ocean onyx]

Still performs considerably worse than using max lighting without RR

[crude marsh]

yeah game is just a mess

[digital quest]

I mean it might say max at the menu but we wont know what its is doing under the hood

You can set it to DLSS 4.5 when using RR but we know its not using it

[ocean onyx]

I can show you

https://tenor.com/view/slop-egobuns-elobum-gif-8995693457887331815

[digital quest]

Show me the code?

Okay

that one

got me

[pine spade]

Is there something wrong with the game's LOD? It looks so immersion-breaking. I haven't seen effects like this in a long time.

【红色沙漠离谱的加载距离】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1beApzgERR/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=9f0bff4a76952fc43ca9a10b61f6fcdd

[lament nymph]

nothing is wrong with this game, disperse ppl

[ocean onyx]

Lods are completely cooked yes

[lament nymph]

or have positive inputs, all I see all day are negative from negative ppl

can't let this be a negativity echo chamber

[digital quest]

They should have made it good then

[lament nymph]

it's good

[pine spade]

The game's HDR is way too bright. The full-screen white flash right after loading easily goes above 1000 nits. I've hardly ever seen a native HDR implementation do this.

[lament nymph]

look how much all the youtubers liked it, optimization is fine

[digital quest]

Jon said it goes up to 9000 nits

[pine spade]

It's blinding.

[digital quest]

[lament nymph]

then that hdr youtuber guy comes in with a new video and be like "HDR IS PERFECT, VERY GOOD"

[ocean onyx]

Game's hdr is just glorified autohdr

[lament nymph]

it's only here you see negative ppl duhhh

[vivid iris]

in the tonemap shader, this lut comes out in PQ and then they apply srgb to that

[faint bobcat]

BDO welcome back

[true dagger]

from what ive read, you cant make a reno for this game rn?

[vivid iris]

we're actively working on it

[lament nymph]

autohdr would looks better with raised blacks than whatever this hdr is

least my eyes won't vomit

[pine spade]

FF16's HDR is done really well. Highlights outside of special effects are restrained, but big scenes like massive fires still get bright when they need to.

[true dagger]

oh perfect thanks, i was worried something was blocking it

[vivid iris]

nah, shortfuse is cookin with the decompiler

if shortfuse was busy, we'd be cooked

[analog parrot]

Our saviours

[mortal wolf]

chatgpt didn't like the rayleigh scattering system either. found the same issue i saw

[true dagger]

ive just finally started the game for the first time, so hopefully you guys can cook something up

[lament nymph]

why not claude

[faint bobcat]

wait

theyre not using LMS

[mortal wolf]

they're not even using linear

[faint bobcat]

not even an spectral cope solution

[mortal wolf]

it's 8bit srgb

[faint bobcat]

abysmal

abysmal

absyaml

ABYSAML

[rough cliff]

yes and upscaling seems to have issues too

[lament nymph]

I'll be honest when I first ran the game and DLAA produces artifacts I Was thinking ... after all this time maybe my 5090 cable finally burned

[crude marsh]

yeah I mean there is no shot that just turning on RR takes me from 90 -> 60 fps unless its also increasing the RT settings

[lament nymph]

glad to know that's not the case

[rough cliff]

RR legit takes 25fps

i go from 75fps to 45fps, on a 4080 super

apparrently RR is harder to run than 4.5 preset L

[crude marsh]

RR is expensive but not like this

[faint bobcat]

going to have to replace their whole slop with actual stockman LMS

[potent spear]

RR is maxing the lighting settings which in itself is expensive

[rough cliff]

yeah, RR and max lighting are tied together

if u set lighting to ultra, it disables RR

[soft timber]

Also unless YouTube compression hid it, the smoke stacks look way more flickery/aliased than they did in the trailers/gameplay showcases

[crude marsh]

its not something that alone takes 30fps

[potent spear]

No that's true but cinematic to max lighting does hit the fps quite hard

[crude marsh]

yeah I am comparing with all cinematic

and max lighting

[pine spade]

I'm not playing this game until RenoDX is available. The HDR is absolutely terrible, and the color grading looks like it was made by low-quality mod authors on Nexus, with no sense of texture or quality at all. On top of that, there are severe shadow flickering and LOD issues.

[lament nymph]

hey all that means is you get to play with reshade nexusmod for free without evne needing to install their mod

the person that does color grading for this game prob do those reshade mods and upload them to nexus

[digital quest]

What if we apply cursed reshade preset on top of this game

pepe_bigbrain

[crude marsh]

ok but on the bright side, you can pet the dog and pick up cats

[mortal wolf]

maybe they really like burnt sienna. also wtf choice with ap1

[soft timber]

It's actually insane to me how dog shit 99% of all reshade presets are. Like how some of them just boost contrast and sharpness by 10000%

[potent spear]

They can also join you on your adventures apparently

[soft timber]

They'll help you loot and such

[spare quartz]

it looks better on tft monitors

[soft timber]

Btw ringing the bells in cities unfogs the map around that city

[mortal wolf]

maybe you need to need to be drinking some soju to play this game

[lament nymph]

I'm already having a headache from looking at these colors, you want me to be dead too?

[ocean onyx]

Good idea, might blur some of the sharpenmaxxing

[lament nymph]

how does this game looks on ps5 or ps5 pro ... need to see to know

[faint bobcat]

Try series S

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[low crane]

Im just mind blown at how fsr can be messed up in a amd sponsored game. When using FSR4, the game gets super oversharpened. Have to enable frame gen to tone the sharpness down and make the image more correct, lol. Its wild stuff.

[dire pilot]

That's next gen tho /s

[spare quartz]

digital foundry made an entire video on the hdr on ps5 pro. isn't it the same there?

[mortal wolf]

oh i have some chum churum soju

[faint bobcat]

yes

its ITM slop

[potent spear]

Let us know if it works Shortfuse

[lament nymph]

here's everyone trusted tech reviewer digital well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCOFJUG9Q2I

looks horrible

bye bye

[vivid iris]

it may not be

should know soon

[faint bobcat]

^

atleast the crushed black floor is there

[lament nymph]

they basically scammed the shit outta me, they used pc screenshot on the ps5 store page

ps5 pro doesn't look anything like those promotional screenshots

[abstract hawk]

Ain't no way

lmao

[mortal wolf]

this game feels like it pivots around the wrong R/G/B primaries

[rough cliff]

have u tried disabling VRR and 120hz @lament nymph in ur console settings

[low crane]

Honestly, the game looks like straight trash unless youre playing at 4k NATIVE. Then it suddenly look next gen as fuck. Something is wrong with the upscaling in this game. the image breaks apart completely.

[lament nymph]

hey man I'm playing on PC, I'm just saying that when I scroll thru psn store a year ago they used the PC screenshot and I Was like ... this looks okay for a ps5 title

maybe there's hope in this world after all, turns out they scammed everyone

the director went on and say " WE NATIVE 4K ON PS5 BOI, NO UPSCALING, NONE OF THAT SHIT"

classic

[mortal wolf]

i honestly think a reshade that adjust hue over the whole image might work. not sure what's going on with these colors. let me ai slop it

[rough cliff]

upscaling is broken, i think they are sampling the lower-res internal resolution instead of the output res when using upscaling

[faint bobcat]

so Reno is a reshade preset after all

[rough cliff]

it should be using the full res samples even when upscaling, mip map bias is broken or something

[spare quartz]

yes hardware unboxed video showed missing shadows when using upscaling

[ocean onyx]

I also see people saying there is no subpixel jitter

[lament nymph]

not to mention their twitter goes " this game went gold" like 3 months ago

this is gold to them?

what they been doing all this time

[rough cliff]

so dumb

[mortal wolf]

slopified

no burnt sienna, actually yellow

[faint bobcat]

so no point in fixing

[lament nymph]

why is it so bright

[faint bobcat]

wait for DLSS 5

[lament nymph]

do it again this is wrong

[mortal wolf]

lol

[ocean onyx]

Dlss 5 already generated this whole game

[teal pumice]

this is filmic contrasty look bro

[spare quartz]

i like the gameplay. same with mh wilds and dd2
is=is

[lament nymph]

finally someone positive, I've been waiting for you all my life

game's awesome, git over it ppl

[crude marsh]

so the missing shadows, I am fairly sure that something is rendering half res but not sampled to full res and therefore a bunch of stuff is missing too

[fresh smelt]

need slopified reshade

[full quarry]

that’s in the base game

It’s a feature!

[mortal wolf]

RenoSlopDX is coming

[lament nymph]

this is still going on, game is a massive success tho

[mortal wolf]

like how NMS made their launch money

[lament nymph]

it proves aggressive marketing works well to scam ppl

[teal pumice]

can we confirm its autohdr ?

[fresh smelt]

game should have ended vgas

[faint bobcat]

WaitTM for Jon to confirm

[full quarry]

game’s good but people expecting an rpg are gonna be disappointed as hell to find out it’s a BotW-like

[teal pumice]

theres a ss

from gamingtech

the sun is a white blob

so id assume its itm

[fresh smelt]

some assassins creed mixed in for good measure

[teal pumice]

really good = white blob sun

[gleaming rivet]

It was never promoted as a story driven RPG

[full quarry]

that does not stop Gamers™️

[wispy crown]

Honestly I turn HDR on as well in this game. Exposure of about 35 and peak brightness of 1000 nits doesn't look bad at all. It's for sure better than SDR.

[gleaming rivet]

tru

[snow steeple]

It looks fine, which game actually lives up to RenoDX standards