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worn ibex
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Floor shadows wen

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Wait is BDO one of those titty games

vivid iris
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Not necessarily no. It would have been if it was made 5 years later

worn ibex
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Oh so it’s not like stellar blade

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Acc wait i think i confused bdo with eve online

vivid iris
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It’s definitely got gooner appeal, it’s just not as shameless

foggy cove
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man amd sponsored game and it still looks like ass on amd

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😭

digital quest
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thats why it looks ass

worn ibex
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I personally would wait for asmongolds opinion

vivid iris
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AMD sponsored always means it looks bad with the exception of like, the Callisto protocol

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Fsr2 only there though…

worn ibex
ocean onyx
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doesn't work in the ML era

worn ibex
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I’d assume the GPUs would have similar architecture

ocean onyx
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i mean i don't know, the ray regen pixelization looks pretty bad when you're zoomed in but the zoomed out shots look closer to good enough

foggy cove
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every day im thankful i decicded to spend 100 bucks more on my 4080s instead of the 7900xtx

digital quest
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I know the bar is low but at least looks better than standart denoiser

vivid iris
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AMD is for bar chart gamers these days

worn ibex
vivid iris
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Benchmarks

worn ibex
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Isn’t nvidia better in that regard as well

vivid iris
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Not if you think RT is a scam

foggy cove
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performance makes since for amd price wise if you don't look any closer

ocean onyx
worn ibex
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I’d genuinely switch to AMD if they acc pulled their thumb out of their ass

vivid iris
ocean onyx
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they're getting there

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fsr 4 is better than trashformer for example

worn ibex
vivid iris
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That’s not a dig, it’s the only valid choice for Linux right now lol

worn ibex
digital quest
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Ofc

ocean onyx
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yes

foggy cove
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lmao

worn ibex
vivid iris
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Outside of graphics enthusiast spaces, absolutely

ocean onyx
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yes

foggy cove
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even in graphics ethusiast spaces

ocean onyx
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statistically speaking most of the RT haters also own nvidia funny enough

worn ibex
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Transformer is far and away better than CNN

digital quest
worn ibex
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Pretty sure CNN had that as well

digital quest
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It is lesser

ocean onyx
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pixel garbage oversharpened nonsense

digital quest
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Isnt that transformer 2 tho

worn ibex
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Is it?

ocean onyx
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1 was also bad

worn ibex
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I’m pretty sure k isn’t bad in that regard

ocean onyx
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1 was especially bad at dithering though

worn ibex
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Comparisons between fsr4 and dlss shows fsr beating cnn in a lot of things but falling behind transformer when it came to recreating details

foggy cove
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man i can't belive john did a mf deep dive on crimson desert and didn't mention this shit this is why alex is my goat

scenic adder
digital quest
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John is too busy reading poems in videos

worn ibex
foggy cove
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yeah it's so easy to tell it's missing shadows though

ocean onyx
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the game is gonna come out and we're gonna find out alex missed a ton of stuff too and have the same conversation

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df is washed

worn ibex
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Alex did a video on PT for re9 and didn’t mention a single problem lmao

digital quest
worn ibex
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Alex’s back is fucked and trust me back pain is acc debilitating

foggy cove
ocean onyx
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they didn't notice it was made with Genie 3 either so who can we really trust

worn ibex
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Ngl don’t think we should be slagging a game not using unreal as a LLM generated game

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Though the protagonist definitely feels like it

ocean onyx
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if you'd prefer i can say what my one friend has been and say that it looks like one of those fake games they make for monitor ads

worn ibex
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If this was unreal you’d have software Lumen artifacts everywhere and it’d run half as well

worn ibex
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Because that’s what I thought too

worn ibex
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Ngl I am excited for the Witcher dlc, wonder if that would need its own hdr

foggy cove
worn ibex
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Still prefer it to unreal

foggy cove
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reflections are ass with software though yeah

ocean onyx
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yeah you need the vendor locked stuff to make the game look good
this is what kevin was talking about COPIUM

worn ibex
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20 minute shader compilation step, traversal and shader stutter

spare garnet
foggy cove
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still shadows are probabably better

worn ibex
spare garnet
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like yday

ocean onyx
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open source solution in 20 years maybe

worn ibex
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Not Witcher

worn ibex
spare garnet
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ok guess I missed the last word in the sentence

foggy cove
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😭

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looks like ass compared to nvidia rr and peforms WAY worse

digital quest
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dont worry fsr diamond coming

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rdna 5 only tho

spare garnet
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they legit broke something with the RR shading

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it looks like reshade AO at 500%

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it's not being blended correctly

worn ibex
spare garnet
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AMD doesn't want to

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people have been using the leaked FSR4 on the older gpus

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and 4.1

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people made so many conspiracies about nvidia locking stuff behind new gpus when most of the time it was for legitimate hardware differences

foggy cove
spare garnet
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AMD just plainly does that

worn ibex
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AMD decided to be even more anti consumer, great…

ocean onyx
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See amethyst for snoy

digital quest
ocean onyx
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Kepler has gotten tons of shit wrong in the past

digital quest
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Yeah ofc

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But after the shit AMD pulled through it makes it more beliveable

worn ibex
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Kepler is like a t4 leaker lol

foggy cove
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We've spent time looking at Crimson Desert on PC's ultra settings and, of course, how it presents on PlayStation 5 Pro. But what we haven't shared until now is the most transformative upgrade available to high-end PCs: superior R...

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holy lod

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timestamped the point at the end

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the grass literally popping in 2 feet away from him as he's walking through the town

vivid iris
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Check out the LODs in black desert

vivid iris
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I’m not normally bothered by pop in, but that game is built different (poorly)

gilded plover
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Tf is this shit

scenic adder
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"Some of this may be coming from a bug that the pre-release build has regarding scattered assets" so depends on whether that's part of the bug

gilded plover
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AMD sloptimization going crazy

foggy cove
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im not normally bothered by lod either but that grass almost looks like a magical effect where it grows grass around him or something

spare garnet
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looks like a bug

gilded plover
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Apparently not if BDO is the same

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Bros not iterating on grass lods since 2014

ocean onyx
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BDO is ancient

spare garnet
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this is not an offshoot of that engine even

faint bobcat
gilded plover
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Yikes

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Dogshit engine

faint bobcat
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but this is a completely new engine

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its not related or even using BDO one

gilded plover
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How are the other lods in the new one

faint bobcat
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well the game has wide draw distances

gilded plover
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That grass in that clip is certainly 2010 type shit

faint bobcat
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but close up pop in is there

faint bobcat
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only 6.26GB VRAM used on highest settings

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como

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8GBcels we eatng good

scenic adder
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Considering it's reporting 0ms GPU time, I'm not sure that's 100% accurate to actual gameplay

spare garnet
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it's that well optimized

foggy cove
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I mean game looks good enough despite a lot of weird quirks and runs well can’t really ask for more now adays lol

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Better than wilds that’s for sure lmao

ocean onyx
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Some art direction would be nice

faint bobcat
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@gilded plover I just rewatched this on pc, it looks soo dreadful. Very close to what POE II does that casues the black crush

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The AO has haloing everywhere

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wtf is this

ocean onyx
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The peak of graphics you just don't get it

faint bobcat
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what optimised partial prepassing does to a mf

spare garnet
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crimson peak

fleet jacinth
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9 years of optimizations

faint bobcat
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wait

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@vivid iris

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I think I know whats going on

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if this is true and real then I will piss myself

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so what I suspect is happenening is becasue their base denoiser / setup is soo ass cheeks

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plus the 1/16th rays

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that when they applied AO and the rest of the lighting they noticed AO and shadows were missing

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so they kept cranking it further and further

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the issue now is that RR isnt a cope solution so it exposes the turbo boosting

vivid iris
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If the denoiser is keeping too much of the original color then it would make sense that a better one is deep fried

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It could also just be feeding into their deep fried tonemapping

rose jewel
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imma just say this guys @vivid iris @faint bobcat

ocean onyx
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Add path tracing week 1 or you will be punished

vivid iris
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Find where the shader says rt and write pt instead, easy

scenic adder
foggy cove
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i see what yall are saying about the reshade ao with those canon balls it does look normal in a lot of areas to me though

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maybe cause im used to witcher 3 rt lol

vivid iris
foggy cove
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šŸ’€

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the dream team they've been calling yall

true dagger
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i didnt even know a denoiser could make this much of a difference wtf lmao

worn ibex
ocean onyx
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Definitely looks like more going on than just the denoisers

foggy cove
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probably a mix of them fucking with it like forge was saying and the comparison between the images making it look more drastic cause it's such a big change

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see the glaze in the comments of that df video is so funny

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people completely missing what the video is showing

faint bobcat
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its dreadful how people dont pick up on this

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DF especially

foggy cove
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i mean im happy people are happy about it ig lol

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blissful ignorance

faint bobcat
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Sometimes I wonder if HDR den and reno is an echo chamber

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but when you noitce our improvements

faint bobcat
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When I removed BG3's shadow saturation boosting

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that game looks soo much better

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Crimson also has smeary shadows

true dagger
foggy cove
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had the same issue with flickering cause of low quality shadows i had in wilds

faint bobcat
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when you flick through

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the shadow saturation is so terrible

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I am in other servers that have film based doods

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and they all say HDR is a cope

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and how games follow what film does

true dagger
faint bobcat
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and I just have to sit their fuming out the ears becasue games copying film is exactly why shit is borked

scenic adder
foggy cove
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oh to be blissfully ignorant

faint bobcat
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but its strange, even the avg person still picks up on games

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its why I saw avg joe shitting on Marathon

true dagger
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i mean ill take a fucked up rtx hdr in games like cs2 over sdr any day, but if reno is available for any game, i have it installed no matter what lol

faint bobcat
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even thought that game is saturation 2

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most avg joes still prefer how BF 1 or battlefront (2015) looks

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compared to 'modern sloppa'

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Guess Reno is just turbo colour autism

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Once you understand these things and see A/B comparisons you cant go back

fresh smelt
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i am ready to make this thread my home

foggy cove
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my friend is getting a oled today i need to gather a bunch of comparisions to force upon him

foggy cove
true dagger
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funny how i wasnt even hyped for the game 2 weeks ago, now im excited af

faint bobcat
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@vivid iris DF RenoDX overview vid

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'They managed to make the game's already near flawless presentation even goodier'

foggy cove
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that would be so awesome just a video of someone explaining renodx to df

ocean onyx
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Hop to it forge

faint bobcat
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como?

ocean onyx
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Get on df

faint bobcat
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I will be in the modding gulag

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I am not doing marketing

ocean onyx
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Explain to John why he is wrrrrrrrrrrrrrong

foggy cove
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show him the inzane colouuurs

faint bobcat
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need to have the mod out

digital quest
faint bobcat
fresh smelt
faint bobcat
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Geeked = me every other day

Locked in = me when it comes to fixing shit/mid games

digital quest
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Imagine Forge kevinposting to DF members

worn ibex
faint bobcat
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basically TLDR of what I mentioned above

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denoiser is utterly killing details so they kept cranking to inverse

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I should be able to force Cbuffer values to X amount so its consistent and isnt boosted

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AMD really is something

vivid iris
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Had to live up to the FSR name

worn ibex
vivid iris
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Fsr2/3 fizzles in motion in a way that exposes the raw pixel grid

worn ibex
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Oic

gilded plover
faint bobcat
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The glaze is insane

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is everyone blind wtf

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everywhere I look 'RR is insane, PS5 needs good denoising asap'

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are we just not seeing how bricked the crushing is?

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Reshade deepfried AO preset makers vindicated

vivid iris
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it looks better and worse at the same time

covert ruin
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but look at 2:50 in DF video. the metal on the barrels look horrible without RR. i’d say the benefits out weigh the cons

ocean onyx
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Need to pick which version bothers you less, and it's probably going to be the RR presentation most of the time

faint bobcat
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Me fixing everything and getting you the best of both worlds

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thank fuck I started learning how to do rendering stuff

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because bruh

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I am not dealing with just 'it is what it is' anymore

digital quest
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Glazing around this game is unreal

foggy cove
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what were they dishonest about it says it's for high end pcs in the title lol

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jeez that has a lot of likes too

modest hatch
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Everyone appears to just not notice

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Might be a YouTube compression issue idk

modest hatch
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IPS vs Oled ahhhhh comparison

worn ibex
worn ibex
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I think Yahtzee is going to rip into this game

lapis smelt
gilded plover
tribal cypress
tribal cypress
worn ibex
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I assume people will be working on Witcher 4 day 1 as well, like @faint bobcat will prolly be on the rendering side considering it’s unreal

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Am I crazy or does the first image look better

ocean onyx
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as usual, the standard denoiser is underwhelming and RR is overdone

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hard to say which one i like better

gilded plover
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RR looks better i would say except the overdone AO imo

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like the whole lighting looks more realistic, not sure why that would change so much just from diff denoiser though..

ocean onyx
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stock denoiser improves performance by seeing rays and deleting them

gilded plover
worn ibex
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The color grading feels different idk how that’s even possible

gilded plover
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i think thats just because the lighting looks so diff

faint bobcat
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considering its UE

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They have access to changes engine side which will always be better

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I am mostly dealing with shader side changes only

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though reshade API does allow for changes to RTVs, binding additional SRVs that sort of stuff

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Its just that 95% of games and engines do not have UE style code + UE4SS tools that allow for in depth changes

karmic void
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can't wait for U+ there

desert quartz
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To me colors and contrast looks somehow deep fried.

desert quartz
true dagger
scenic adder
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I believe the game also uses SSAO, I wonder if turning that off would solve (some) of the issue at least

desert quartz
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To my eye - something unnatural and unbalanced happening in these crimson desert screenshots. Even more so when ray reconstruction is enabled

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I feel like it has a bit deep fried look because of several unrelated reasons. Some of them (or maybe all of it) might be intentional

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  • something is overdone with contrast, black looks crushed in so many areas
  • something is off and unbalanced with saturated colors
  • then some ray tracing/ray reconstrucion weirdness is happening
vivid iris
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I trust forge to figure it out lol

fleet jacinth
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can he figure out the insane pop in?

vivid iris
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not a shader thing

fleet jacinth
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shadows only exists in a 5 meter ring around the character

vivid iris
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wouldn't be in the purview of this mod

fleet jacinth
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and magic grass also

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i know šŸ™

faint bobcat
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which I dunno how to do

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I can only vibe code in Ghidra or IDA

scenic adder
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At least something relating to that extreme pop in is due to a bug, according to the DF video

silver saffron
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the pop in is truly horrendous, it's so distracting

faint bobcat
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I should record BDO

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you fellas have no clue

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its made by the same studio so this is normal

true dagger
worn ibex
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ā€œClaude update REFramework for the new patchā€

golden scaffold
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Did the AI just not know what to do with the trash?

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It's just making up something new, this is wild kekpepehands

faint bobcat
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no

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the game has dynamic proc generated details

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or whatever you want to call it

golden scaffold
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Ah damn it

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That's kinda weird

faint bobcat
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smaller details will vary

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depending on the scene

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I guess they have some sort of randomiser that spawns small pebbles, flowers, rocks that sort of thing

golden scaffold
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In any case I don't like the Nvidia one at all. It looks too much "RTXified"

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Overdone contrast and shadows and blue hues, yuck

faint bobcat
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because the input going into RR is currently their giga cranked settings that were muted due to their shit in house denoiser

golden scaffold
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The lighting on npcs face doesn't look natural in both scenes and it looks slightly worse in the vanilla

faint bobcat
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Its the equivalent of having a game with forced sharpnening and you now apply DLSS 4.5

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its not DLSS thats the issue

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its the forced sharpening in the game

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which means the shaders need to be remade

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so the input going into RR is normal

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or built around it

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RR spec states that devs have to build their shaders around RR

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but I am guessing Pearl just chucked it in

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Thats my theory

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its not that RR is magically cranking AO

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its that their base denoiser literally annihilated detail including bounce lighting and shading

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so they kept cranking it further and further so it 'somewhat' appears using their base denoiser

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I dunno if theres another way to explain this

worn ibex
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Why not use NRD

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Like I don’t get it

faint bobcat
worn ibex
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I meant for PC

faint bobcat
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PC gets RR

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which is superior to NRD

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NRD would also expose the same problem

worn ibex
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šŸ’€

faint bobcat
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all their lighting has been made with their doodoo base denoiser in mind

young sinew
worn ibex
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I wonder if they’re gonna eat this games lunch

faint bobcat
worn ibex
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Will it be an unreal slop or the rare and only unreal gem

young sinew
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i mean tbh it ran shit on every hardware unless you were running the latest shit

faint bobcat
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I played Byberpunk on a ryzen 2600 and rx580

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was fine enough I suppose

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40FPS on high settings 1080p

young sinew
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Ye, but wasnt it more "buggy" on lower end hardware?

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Or at least prone

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like graphcial issues

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etc

worn ibex
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Witcher 3 was very well optimized

young sinew
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It was, luckly i got my hand on a 3080 at that time

worn ibex
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I ran it on my 660ti, 4gb of RAM and an i3 540 duo core cpu at 1600x900p

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Because that’s the monitor I had

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Ngl prolly one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had

young sinew
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ye witcher 3 was peak

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arent they remaking witcher 1 ?

worn ibex
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After Witcher 4

lapis smelt
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Dont worry guys, DLSS 5 is fixing everything.

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(And of course DF is just glazing this shit, so as of today they are officially sold out)

vivid iris
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you meme'd too close to the sun

ocean onyx
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Fucking actually LMAO

vivid iris
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I blame you specifically for this

median plover
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wtf am i seeing...

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i dont even know if i like it or not

gilded plover
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its awful

true dagger
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yea looks fking horrible

median plover
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so... if preset L was fps intensive... this one xD

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until fall they make it more, disguised.

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i hope atleast

worn ibex
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Mate what stock should I buy next

ocean onyx
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Nvidia

median plover
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when i saw it in twitter i tought it was fake xD

ocean onyx
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They are going to sell 8 jillion 5090s after this

median plover
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"DLSS 5, only at RTAI 6000"

lapis smelt
median plover
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Guys, I’m watching the digital foundry video. They are using 2x 5090.

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In RE9

lapis smelt
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2x5090 for this, sounds like a good deal

faint bobcat
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@vivid iris I am retiring

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DLSS 5 will fix crimson

worn ibex
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I am putting the requiem on my dick and firing a bullet

faint bobcat
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just use RTX HDR

vivid iris
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so true

median plover
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Fall 2026

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2x RTX 5090 required šŸ˜‚

faint bobcat
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they brought back SLI for dis

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DLSS 5 cooking contrast

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then RTX HDR cooking contrast even more

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I've read papers on neural rendering

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that part is fine

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since you're using ML to accelerate perfomance or improve materials

vivid iris
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neural rendering is cool, asking grok to yassify your game is not

faint bobcat
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yassification filter is a bruh moment

faint bobcat
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Need to cook something up with neural usage with reno

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maybe reshade api support

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Cant wait for me to use Preset Goober for DLSS 5

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(has less yassification compared to Preset Zoomer)

fresh smelt
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just checked the calendar and it wasn't the 19th yet šŸ«‚

faint bobcat
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soonTM

ocean onyx
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i've been wishing it was april 1st but here we are

faint bobcat
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The April 1st will be that DLSS 5 was a meme

digital quest
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I literally thought it was a meme the moment I saw it

faint bobcat
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we also thought DLSS 1 was a meme

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conslow checkerboard rendering on my PC masterrace?

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now we all glaze DLSS

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it will be the same

faint bobcat
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cant wait to see Kibbles using DLSS 5 preset Zoomer

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You'll use the Preset 'maintain creative intent'

ocean onyx
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i'm using preset gooner

faint bobcat
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und u vill be 'appy

ocean onyx
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it makes every character naked

faint bobcat
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Sponsored by PalantirTM

ocean onyx
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but it also turns every character into either charlie kirk or jeffrey epstein at random

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and then they make out

faint bobcat
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Diddy oil

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aint no party like a Diddy party

faint bobcat
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I am pissing myself

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I cant work on BG3

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the images and memes are killing me

vestal flicker
vestal flicker
worn ibex
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Yahtzee is gonna come out with his review the moment the embargo lifts

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I think that’ll be interesting

karmic void
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developers will be able to fine tune everything

vestal flicker
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My popa always told me : when it sounds too gud to be true...

tame vault
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Sweet, no way Devs will fuck this up

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Can't wait for Borderlands 5

karmic void
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imo is impressive, I can't believe we are already that far

ocean onyx
karmic void
ocean onyx
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this can't be a serious sentence

worn ibex
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I fucking hate every AI slop enjoying baby

karmic void
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not everything is slop

tame vault
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Ff7, a beautifully human game. Savour it

vestal flicker
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You should try social medias

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Lot of nuance there too

karmic void
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DLSS5 on and Off

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sorry I had to

worn ibex
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I think we have ai bots in here lmao

karmic void
foggy cove
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don't wanna hurt it's feelings

ashen pawn
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like not even a debate, every example in that video looked like a very sad stable diffusion filter lol

karmic void
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environment looks sick I don't agree

lapis smelt
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Never clicked on the ignore member button faster

ashen pawn
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the environment is just as big of a problem as the characters

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both look equally as uncanny and devout of any creativity

covert ruin
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man when will nvidia announce a new RR model??

karmic void
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@faint bobcat when u will unslop Crimson Desert make a DLSS5 preset plz

faint bobcat
covert ruin
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😭😭

faint bobcat
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you will maybe get RR V2 computex 2027

faint bobcat
lapis smelt
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Maybe Alex is not so much onboard with the praise like the others.

faint bobcat
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DF civil war

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before GTA 6

lapis smelt
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Besides the actual insanity that are those faces

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WHats the point of all this shit? Do these reconstructions even have permanence? Will Grace look like a slightly different character everytime you load the game?

#

Its just so unbelievably bad

ocean onyx
lapis smelt
#

Whats the fucking point of RT if the final pass is going to murder the lighting

faint bobcat
#

techbro wankery

ocean onyx
#

this will make investors money

#

and the rest of us will die in slow agony

#

as jensen wants

faint bobcat
#

DLSS 10 will be Palantir drones

ocean onyx
#

AI is the biggest wealth transfer scam of all time

faint bobcat
#

you just didnt jump on the grift

#

so you are upset now

lapis smelt
#

buy high sell low

faint bobcat
#

wrong

#

Dont buy anything
Get all your funding from Gooberment
Dumbass tax players e.g plebs fund your whole operation anyways
Infinite gold plated yacht glitch

ocean onyx
#

your mistake was having to buy

#

should have been born into the oligarchy

faint bobcat
#

tough luck

#

reroll next time

#

Stats were too shit

#

#grok how over is it for us?

faint bobcat
#

FukTAA explained this

#

and you all laughed

ocean onyx
#

is this real

faint bobcat
#

from their vid

ocean onyx
#

no fucking way

faint bobcat
#

I guess you dont notice it as much in motion

#

but I just captured it

worn ibex
# ocean onyx

Kevin was our saviour, We are Kevin Kirk, we carry the flame

modest hatch
#

So

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Is this gonna be available day one

#

Also this HDR looks pretty good tbh

faint bobcat
vivid iris
#

gonna try

#

depends on a lot of things though

faint bobcat
#

we will probably have a mod out in a day or two

#

but full fixes to our 'standard' will take longer

vivid iris
#

ready for the roadblock to actually be that GMG is late with my key

tame vault
scenic adder
#

But get a bit of action on screen, and you just have parts of the characters melting away

gilded plover
scenic adder
#

Not the only thing that's missing

gilded plover
#

he lost his hand while running okay

#

bro has leprosy

true dagger
jade spruce
gilded plover
#

Leprosy is not a crime

jade spruce
#

DLSS 5 is

gilded plover
gilded plover
lapis smelt
#

This is doing the rounds on reddit

#

Slopfied with AI

spare garnet
vivid iris
#

got my key

modest hatch
#

I don’t even know much about hdr stuff

faint bobcat
#

ACES^2

#

AgX^2

#

DLSS 5 has been turbo charged on AgX / ACES trained images

lapis smelt
#

Lol thats another level of ghosting

#

I'm not sure if this is real but holy fucking shit.

#

Nvmd its fake lmao

vivid iris
karmic void
#

wtf is this release time? 😭

faint bobcat
# vivid iris

guess I am pulling an all nighter trying to figure out and solve the game problems

vivid iris
#

6 pm on thursday for me is not what I expected lol

karmic void
#

I'll wait for u guys to unslop

faint bobcat
karmic void
#

on Monday I have an exam. If my mom will see me playing at midnight on Thursday will beat me up

ocean onyx
#

lisa still hasn't sent me the code so i guess i'm not preloading?

faint bobcat
#

Kibbles will be playing?

#

dafuq

#

I thought you were trolling and just here for the shits and giggles

digital quest
#

Hate playing

karmic void
#

And hate posting

ocean onyx
#

i'm getting the game for free so fuck it

#

don't feel like selling the code, might as well see what's up

worthy kernel
karmic void
#

u are all regretting shitting on this game, gonna be GOTY material LookAtHisMana

ocean onyx
#

goty is next month

tame vault
#

I don't normally get excited about game launches but this one has its claws in me.

faint bobcat
#

what Bethesda being washed does to mfs

faint bobcat
#

DLSS 5 update has me frothing at the mouth to return to Starfield

ocean onyx
#

Starfield (chopped and screwed)

karmic void
true dagger
# vivid iris

ill be fking able to play after work on friday, atleast it will prob already have a reno mod available

vivid iris
tame vault
#

Yup, just some crazy times in a new (to me) engine that hopefully will just feel different

nova cargo
#

The engine interests me more than anything else

vivid iris
#

having played BDO, even though everyone is saying the engine is impressive I still just think it'll be a trainwreck lol

#

(everyone said that engine was impressive)

jade spruce
#

currently launching this current piece of gabrage again

#

PA have a special way of breaking shit no one else can

true dagger
#

i have maybe like 65 hours on bdo from a looong time ago like 4-5 years back, i remember the game ran fine and looked fine, just didnt like the overall mmo style grindiness

vivid iris
#

I think they got it decently performant over the years. At launch the game was an absolute disaster in terms of performance

#

and pop in is still the worst I've ever seen in a game

#

their LODs aren't even the same vague shapes

#

world teraforms in front of you

faint bobcat
#

600w

#

on a 5090

#

70FPS

#

pop in is atrocious

vivid iris
#

admittedly, the aesthetic sensibilities of black desert appealed to me more back then (was in my dogshit reshade arc)

faint bobcat
#

BDO hit us like crack in the 80s

#

when I saw that gaame

#

I was frothing at the mouth

#

because I was stuck to a PS4

faint bobcat
#

and send here

#

so the fellas know

jade spruce
#

but yeah it bad

#

super badge

#

can't be btohered

#

even the ultra unoptimized mode has mad popin

tame vault
#

Does crimson desert pop in seemingly look as bad? Any fix? Please fix

faint bobcat
#

#Grok pls fix pop in

#

You can use DLSS 5

tame vault
#

Yeah I might hold off til DLSS 5. Let Jensen decide what my foliage should look like.

faint bobcat
#

extra crushed

tame vault
#

Elon's crusty nutsack

faint bobcat
#

and deepfried

vivid iris
#

by all accounts the engine sounds good other than wishing the RT was higher quality

#

can't help the art though lol

faint bobcat
#

Crimson doesnt spawn in and terraform the entire landscape 5 metres in front of you

#

the only issue is the smaller pebbles and grass seem to have some sort of bug that has low draw distance or pop in

#

Time stamped BDO by comparison

#

once you get on a horse its over

#

Maybe the Cinematic preset settings further increase draw distance

#

or theres some sort of .cfg / ini tweak we can make

faint bobcat
#

vid has HDR

digital quest
#

I meant how bad it looks

faint bobcat
#

I cant tell if its RTX HDR or console HDR

vivid iris
vivid iris
#

camera movement looks like a mouse, probably rtx hdr or some fake video post process

faint bobcat
#

This games grading

vivid iris
#

it's peak

faint bobcat
foggy cove
#

is black desert fun?

faint bobcat
#

no

#

You play for booba and combat

vivid iris
#

it's the kind of game where people with 10000 hours tell you not to play it

foggy cove
#

lmao yall were quick with that

vivid iris
foggy cove
#

lol

vivid iris
foggy cove
#

id say like warframe but they somehow manage to keep the playerbase

vivid iris
#

don't listen to the losers that only played 10k hours, the guy that played 50k hours knows

faint bobcat
#

50K hours

#

christ

foggy cove
#

tourist

#

only 50k?

digital quest
#

If you dont have 50k hours, you dont deserve to judge the game

faint bobcat
#

How does one have 50K hours

#

fuck me

digital quest
#

Maybe afk?

vivid iris
#

tbf a lot of systems in this game are idle friendly

faint bobcat
#

thats has to be since game launch

#

every day

vivid iris
#

the game has an idle mode even

faint bobcat
#

for the past decade

foggy cove
#

even 1% of that actually playing is absurd lol

#

well maybe 5%

faint bobcat
#

Time to stack 100K hours in Crimson

foggy cove
#

never close it

vivid iris
#

I like BDO, but I never played enough of it to give a "real" opinion on it

faint bobcat
#

thats non stop

foggy cove
#

you must work on crimson desert all wake hours or else you aren't real mod developer

vivid iris
#

wait when did the game even launch on steam

faint bobcat
vivid iris
#

bdo wasn't on steam until 2017

#

first of the "most helpful reviews" on steam calls BDO a visual masterpiece in case you're wondering what normal people think about deep fried art styles

jade spruce
jade spruce
#

at least I can suffer in BDO with Froges HDR mod

#

that's half broken

foggy cove
#

I think it's mainly the pvp elements that inevitably turn people away

#

and keep them there

frail wyvern
#

Crimson Desert Pre-loading! Whoooo!

#

92.5GB (Almost 100GB!)

vivid iris
#

Damn almost 100 kajiggers

vivid iris
#

I guess that’s how they fit mechs into the medieval game

frail wyvern
#

Hey, those NUKES take up SPACE!

#

Dragons, Mechs, Nukes and Space Time OH MY!

#

It's going to be Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom PC 2.0

#

Game downloaded, cannot play, not yet released. Bait and Switch šŸ™

lapis smelt
#

Oliver from DF Absolutely lost in the paint, he doubled down on the DLSS5loppa.
https://x.com/oliemack/status/2033700467952537684

Chiming in here as I thought I should offer some context given the reaction to this piece.

The chief thing I was impressed by (and this doesn't really carry over in the media we published) is the temporal consistency. At least in the content we sampled (and we had full control

lapis smelt
real stag
lapis smelt
frail wyvern
#

Mechs launch Nukes 🤣

worn ibex
real stag
#

I'm pretty confident it will be huge when it's improved

faint bobcat
karmic void
sudden pulsar
faint bobcat
#

Todd has his family on ropes

lapis smelt
ocean onyx
#

the oligarchs are telling us that even our circuses mean nothing and the only response is "well actually it's good because they can change some things in post"

#

proven right again

sudden pulsar
ocean onyx
#

realistically, not worth frothing over more than any of the other generative garbage

#

got my key from lisa at least

ocean onyx
sudden pulsar
#

Tasukete, Kevinu-sama

faint bobcat
#

Kevin + Miyazaki

#

Deadly combo

worn ibex
worn ibex
faint bobcat
#

@sudden pulsar you playing this sloppa?

ocean onyx
worn ibex
#

Is she tearing you apart?

sudden pulsar
ocean onyx
sudden pulsar
#

I’d prefer to finish RE9 first

#

And ideally hear a bit of feedback about the game in general lol

faint bobcat
#

brother cant finish a 7hr game

faint bobcat
#

there

#

your entire review

sudden pulsar
#

I’m Dyson’ing the game and well taking my time

worn ibex
#

Requiem is great

#

Take your time

modest hatch
#

Thought it was gonna be like 150

lapis smelt
#

I will regret the fuck out of this comment but I'm having a feeling like when Witcher 3 was almost launching

#

This game will be dope as hell

gilded plover
real stag
digital quest
#

Even if I wouldnt want to play the games with the inital version, I would definitely try it out because the from a tech point it seems interesting. When they started showing my initial thought was this is a meme because I thought we were way far from this stuff.

faint bobcat
#

when DLSS 5 comes out this year in fall and is the bestest thingy since the wheel

#

I want everyone who memed it to quit all HDR related servers and self exile from PC

digital quest
#

Jensen Apology Form

young sinew
worthy kernel
#

INSANE COLORZZZZZ

karmic void
#
faint bobcat
#

cant wait to wait 8 years only to see 2 games use this

#

then UE6 adopts it and we still have low draw distance and pop in

worthy kernel
#

and abysmal perf

karmic void
worthy kernel
#

why would that matter

#

all consoles have Mesh Shaders or equivalent and yet

karmic void
#

if Xbox will have multiple storefront as it seems

#

it will Def matter

worthy kernel
#

what i'm saying is that the DX team may push new features

#

but if they aren't implemented then it's useless

karmic void
worthy kernel
#

everyone was confident in Mesh Shaders

faint bobcat
#

Pumbo implemented

#

then ass shadows

#

bout it

#

UE5 nanite dont count

karmic void
#

@faint bobcat i feel u excited for Crimson Desert

#

u can say it

#

don't shy away from it

faint bobcat
#

yh, looking forward to spending +100 hours fixing stuff

#

Going to try out EON BRDF

#

then see about adding in RDX BRDF

digital quest
#

vscode gameplay will go hard

low crane
final widget
#

Yummy

tawny ravine
#

It's been a wild few days. When we posted about DLSS 5, we were impressed with the technology and what it was doing - but we posted too soon. When generative AI is so divisive and with the future of games development possibly at stake, we should have taken the time to get the story straight and to analyse what we saw more thoroughly drawing on t...

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low crane
#

Mans dissapointed

tribal cypress
young sinew
#

He got death threats by Jensen

stable ocean
#

death threat andies are so retarded

young sinew
#

Ye people are behaving like toddlers

golden scaffold
#

slightly off topic but regarding Alex's issue, I remember seeing comments praising him for his excellent posture in videos when they were sitting on a bench, he was the only one that kept straight at a 90° angle the entire time not slouching once, but here's the thing. The "90° correct sitting angle" is not correct. That's what's actually ruining your spine. If he was always forcing himself to sit like this, it's part of the problem. Yes, slouching is better for your spine and i'll die on that hill. Just sit the way it feels natural to you, don't force 90° that we got thought in schools about correct office posture - everything about that is wrong, the entire sitting and typing form we were forced to do is death for your joints, wrists, carpal, and spine

golden scaffold
#

he should be more like john and switch to sofa gaming in a recliner at a comfortable 45° angle, his spine would thank him

#

kind of unsurprising, that the main pc enthusiast from their group suffers from this. if he was forcing himself entire life into 90°, could be part of the problem

ocean onyx
#

That's really not so black and white. He should be sitting as is comfortable with some degree of support and regularly moving as part of that regimen

golden scaffold
#

true true, it's not black & white, but certainly can be part of the problem

#

well he's on a standing desk now anyway

#

he should just try setting up for sofa gaming, i think 45° recliner should be comfortable position for him still

ocean onyx
#

If he has real lumbar support then 90 degrees is also fine, the key is movement

golden scaffold
#

question is how many years was without a proper lumbar support and that's still forcing an unnatural position, even with lumbar that's a bandaid to a problem causing sitting position imho

low crane
#

Everyone should have a pull up bar in theyre home and just get up from time to time and do some dead hangs and pull ups

vivid iris
golden scaffold
#

yeah while it may seem contraintuitive, strenghtening your muscles should ussualy help (preventing?) but as he said it's a pinched nerve problem so what can you even do now

golden scaffold
#

I would just never force myself to sit like that even for a video lol, not for a moment

young sinew
thick zenith
#

Launch day twitch drops for a single player game seems a bit weird.

frail wyvern
#

I just take it as Promoting their new game

#

It's probably all obtainable in game since there's no DLC or cash shop anyways

#

Some people are already Live on Twitch and giving away copies of Crimson Desert

#

Looks like 1 Day, 3 hours until release

#

I'm trying to win an extra copy to give away to my friend

frail wyvern
#

Which I don't necessarily agree with, but it does keep people coming back regularly

karmic void
worthy kernel
#

"one ubisoft developer said"

#

out of how many?

jade spruce
#

Didn't know about dlss 5

#

How could nvidia forget to consult him?

digital quest
#

Handcrafted ENB look

faint bobcat
#

its handcrafted alright

#

I dont think even AI can deepfry pinkify like Pearl can

digital quest
worthy kernel
#

crimson lighting isn't handcrafted because it's RTslop frenzy

#

no artistic intent
you just place a light and RTsloppa does everything for you frenzy

digital quest
#

Like how am I supposed to take his opinion seriously when he uses "Crimson Desert" , "good" and "color grading" in the same sentence

jade spruce
faint bobcat
#

crimson looks 'good' because it isnt the nth ue5 title with desaturated highlights ACES and anti soul gas at 5000%

#

brains are fried

digital quest
jade spruce
#

I just want games that look like the division 1

#

We truly peaked back then

digital quest
#

My friend was complaining to me about anti soul gas at lies of p

#

He turned off volumetrics with cvar

ocean onyx
#

what the fuck is anti soul gas

faint bobcat
digital quest
#

fog/haze in interiors

ocean onyx
#

it looks like dogshit with it off

jade spruce
#

Where does the term come from tho

faint bobcat
faint bobcat
digital quest
jade spruce
digital quest
ocean onyx
#

it looks perfectly fine with it on

faint bobcat
#

50%

#

with hue restoration

jade spruce
#

My question is, where does the light from that lamp go?

faint bobcat
vivid iris
#

fog makes games look better actually

jade spruce
#

googles anti soul gas

3rd result is wiki page for directed energy weapons

#

What does this mean?

faint bobcat
# vivid iris fog makes games look better actually

Vanilla Skyblim without volumetric mist / fog looks like dogshit and all the mods that add those improve the look of the game

UE5 / modern games slabbering volumetric fog in interiors as if theres a raging building fire is peak modern slop

#

Oblivion Demastereds issue was the volumetric fog added the brown colour on top of the whole environment

vivid iris
#

I can't get over TI lookin like a dude my sister dated (was a piece of shit too lol)

faint bobcat
#

maybe it was him

#

but doesnt matter

vivid iris
#

sometimes I really do wonder

faint bobcat
#

ad hominem

#

you're attacking him

#

and not his points

#

becasue his points never miss

#

and hes 100% right

ocean onyx
#

he was trying to warn us about this future

final widget
#

My body is a machine that turns thoughts into logical fallacies

faint bobcat
#

the bloom that clipped half your screen

#

that was PEAK SOVL

#

provided a dreamy look

worn ibex
digital quest
faint bobcat
#

(yes, someone plays the game like this)

worthy kernel
#

i love ps3 games

digital quest
#

I cant stand looking at this for 5 seconds

#

wtf

faint bobcat
#

John HDR preset

jade spruce
#

this is washed out to john

digital quest
#

Do these people play outside or something

#

Like how can your eyes not hurt by looking at this

#

or is that a "feature"

#

if my eyes are not hurting its not hdr or something

ocean onyx
#

i'm more shocked it doesn't really hurt my eyes at all

#

maybe the normalized viewing field is onto something

ocean onyx
#

well cyberpunk does hurt my eyes cause it's dogshit but beside that

faint bobcat
#

RTX remix pulled that Crimson grading

faint bobcat
#

Jon will break Reno boundries

#

by making Crimson be the first addon to use HLG

#

looking forward to Crimson's menu looking unique like all the other games below

hidden ivy
faint bobcat
#

nonsense

#

IDN on plebbit said otherwise

#

besides

#

Lottes also confirmed that PQ has a 25% FPS cost

hidden ivy
#

PQ? šŸ˜„

digital quest
#

We need all the frames

hidden ivy
worn ibex
worthy kernel
novel kayak
#

How bad do we think native HDR is gonna be

digital quest
#

Probably ITM

faint bobcat
#

This bad

#

time to prepare nexus page

foggy cove
lapis smelt
faint bobcat
#

the game looks like this

#

not even low key

#

Looks like a EverythingOLED setup

#

but baked into the game from day1

tawny ravine
#

MMO grind in a single player game. BDO 2.0 confirmed

undone mica
foggy cove
#

love me a grindy game

tawny ravine
#

It was really enjoyable to explore imo

jade spruce
#

pretty sure most of it is AI generated

tawny ravine
undone mica
worn ibex
worn ibex
#

It was peak through and through

digital quest
worn ibex
digital quest
#

I doubt forge wants to stay faithful to sdr

faint bobcat
#

Jon is working on grading

lilac urchin
#

embargo is at 6

faint bobcat
#

I am straight to the rendering gulag

lilac urchin
#

the gamer is trash

#

is why is out first