Meanwhile, the China expy in arknights:
#Arknights + AK Endfield
fleet socket
Meanwhile, the China expy in arknights:
lol
i hope management/higher ups/whoever made the decision to defang AKE will listen to feedback
woeful raven
wuwa immediately show its chops for real time cinematics and cutscene direction soon
what i've seen in endfield is just more typical pre rendered slop
polished but no soul
they spent all that time in beta for polish
just to dissapoint
runic dove
wuwa doing more realtime cutscenes really has me wanting them to just drop mobile altogether, but there's far too much money that comes from the same people that buy the new iphone every year
woeful raven
its fine
80% of it is in real time
actually well 90%
it is perhaps acceptable to have 10% of them be pre rendered so the mobilesloppers feed wuwa money
cedar musk
i still remember the mess of 2.7
tidal finch
Ultimately all 3D Gachas will become Genshin, gooner slop or both.
It's what sells after all, and the main purpose of a gacha game isn't to be good or unique, it's to earn as much as possible
rustic echo
Ultimately all 3D Gachas will become Genshin, gooner slop or both.
It's what sel...
technically no, it depends on the managers and the mission statement. If it were the case we would continue to have low budget png games.
A lot of the gacha's these days are born out of the need free spend VC money like the west had a problem. Though those were decided 4-6yrs ago when CN's economy wasn't blowing up. the world was in a "cash is trash mode". A lot of the gacha's being release today was spun off from the dev's frustration of not having a way to implement their pet projects.
like anything in the reality...things then happen. Endfield is an especially long toothed in dev time....so loooots of things happened.
fast hearth
i was wondering, is it Ark-nights or Ar-knights 
gloomy tulip
Ark nights at least in Japanese
woeful raven
i was wondering, is it Ark-nights or Ar-knights <:think:1432275869451419738>
ark nights
unkempt pulsar
they say it every time you launch the game 💀
stable lava
you're forgetting everyone here has dropped endfield
unkempt pulsar
and had all their memories from when they were playing wiped?
stable lava
Men in Black-style yeah
twin haven
that's cool and all, i just hope they expand on that more in the future, currently everyone treats endmin as like The Special One "You're THE Endmin??" with a surprised pikachu face.
They should show us the SIGNIFICANCE of his past self, the term is exposition no?
dusky wave
they say it every time you launch the game 💀
dusky wave
that's cool and all, i just hope they expand on that more in the future, current...
glazin go brrrrrr
cedar musk
i was wondering, is it Ark-nights or Ar-knights <:think:1432275869451419738>
Ark nights
Bcuz Ark is from Noah's Ark, the one who brought a bunch of animals into the ship. and look Rhodes Island ship is full of animals also 
fleet socket
that's cool and all, i just hope they expand on that more in the future, current...
her*
aint no one playing as male endmin
i liked how they handled endmin's thoughts on their past in the laev's character story, but also, why was that in a character story over the main story?
cedar musk
her*
aint no one playing as male endmin
I do
Fem endmin feels looks too goofy while doing the story
And i still believe doc is a male, and my theory is that endmin is doctah
fleet socket
male endmin makes sense for the ardashir yaoi. yeah
glacial kayak
male endmin makes sense for the ardashir yaoi. yeah
glacial kayak
And i still believe doc is a male, and my theory is that endmin is doctah
Tbf in both cases they can really just get away with either
The anime just went with ambiguity for doctor which also works well enough
cedar musk
The anime just went with ambiguity for doctor which also works well enough
i mean yeah
but i think 90% of the community already thinks doctor is male
glacial kayak
Most people are just projecting whatever they are irl
Which is fine since it doesn't really matter
Personally I'm going to go with the third option and say doc is enby
cedar musk
Most people are just projecting whatever they are irl
it would be kinda weird projecting yourself as doctor. I would believe most people stopped doing that after chapter 14, or Babel story
but sure, in the "canon" i don't think it matters since they never touch that topic
but kinda hard to avoid 90% of fan content depicting doctor as a male.
glacial kayak
But that's kinda what I mean. That fan content mostly has doctor as male because most of the people making it are dudes. It's not a bad thing, just kinda the way it is
glacial kayak
it would be kinda weird projecting yourself as doctor. I would believe most peop...
Personally there's never anything I've wanted more in life than ||to be deeply conflicted between 2 differing worlds whose desires are directly opposed to each that I have come to deeply treasure and have to make an incredibly painful potentially world ending decision about||
tidal finch
Personally there's never anything I've wanted more in life than ||to be deeply c...
Me
woeful raven
and had all their memories from when they were playing wiped?
Ya
dusky wave
I like how this thread has become a full
woeful raven
Absolute trash
woeful raven
I only remember because arknights OG has a different voice actor say "ark nights" everytimr you launch the game
Midfield can only afford one voice
woeful raven
Is this the horse cock game
tidal finch
Is this the horse cock game
stark shuttle
all the broken rendering improvements should be fixed
should also work with the new maps
lmk if anyone finds anything broken
median robin
all the broken rendering improvements should be fixed
should also work with the ...
oh shiii
fleet socket
all the broken rendering improvements should be fixed
should also work with the ...
we're so back
thanks
serene bridge
all the broken rendering improvements should be fixed
should also work with the ...
UID hiding seems like its not working, pops on and off
stark shuttle
mhm it doesn't for me
stark shuttle
UID hiding seems like its not working, pops on and off
i can't seem to reproduce it
does it just happen constantly or when you do smth specific?
serene bridge
it just stopped working
during combat it pops in and out, and then just stays like that after
stark shuttle
yea thats it
unborn hare
all the broken rendering improvements should be fixed
should also work with the ...
i was able to port ui stuff and shadows. Had issues with GTAO stuff and rage quit. Share source plz
id like to compare slop vs slop
with my slop there was an issue with diagonal line on screen after which AO was not applying
probably somehow related to the fact that there were some issues when decompiling
dusky wave
You cant use SM5 decomp for the deferred shaders
they blow up
or crash
Would need to fix the decomp using .asm
theres some semantic shittery that needs to be fixed
and you'll have to sit there and go through it by hand
unborn hare
hlsl is already too much for me 
now i need to tinker with asm
what is a deferred shader
the problem is that i even dont know how to explain to AI what is needed
grok fix gaem didnt work
stark shuttle
during combat it pops in and out, and then just stays like that after
fixed all of the broken rendering improvements for 1.2.4
works with new maps
and fixes the hidden uid reappearing after combat
lmk if anyone finds anything broken
stark shuttle
i was able to port ui stuff and shadows. Had issues with GTAO stuff and rage qui...
i'll share it tomorrow
fleet socket
how do you bypass the anticheat flagging ReShade.ini again
stark shuttle
i honestly don't know much about all this,
just figured i'll give it a try and started from 0 two days ago
clanker did most of the stuff
serene bridge
fixed all of the broken rendering improvements for 1.2.4
works with new maps
and...
nice, that fixed it
stark shuttle
how do you bypass the anticheat flagging ReShade.ini again
#1440801914165002322 message
i use the .bat trick
dusky wave
what is a deferred shader
Game (Unity) uses deferred rendering.
Deferred rendering separates scene geometry from lighting into multiple storing formats called Gbuffers. So you will have one for shadows, another for direct lighting another for reflections and so on.
In this context 'a deferred shader(s)' is one of the final stages in the rendering pipeline. It takes all of these gbuffers and composites them to render the scene
The game does a bunch of stuff
such as
not applying AO from other light sources
so local lighting and bunch of fake lights / hero lights that they added dont apply AO
dusky wave
tight wharf
i firmly believe that endfield will be great in the future and i'll be happy i stuck with it
spiral imp
And if it's not
Game feels so polished
And stuff but man is it boring 95% of the time
gloomy tulip
Peakfield confirmed
This was everyone’s first impression
woeful raven
fixed all of the broken rendering improvements for 1.2.4
works with new maps
and...
Thanks for maintaining this trash
toxic mortar
cedar musk
peakfield i see
royal yoke
pretty good
unborn hare
peakfield i see
Try clearing shader cache maybe?
rustic echo
that looks like just reshade funk i think, when it's not on dx11, and or ya, shader cache.
anticheat has been messing with the swapchain (not just this game) so I expect it to be a bit of try and test.
cedar musk
i guess the colors still fucked for non-hdr left with reno, right vanilla. idk why that weird glow
rustic echo
I donno looks right to me
you gotta remember endfield has some very intricate pbr going for it, so lighting is going to expose a lot of colors
sdr may not capture half of those
cedar musk
I donno looks right to me
left looks mad green glow
rustic echo
ya not surpising?
cedar musk
there are some places where the thing also kinda changes a lot
rustic echo
HDR10 will do that, it's even worse in UE sometimes
like when a dev uses filmic tonemapper, cause it's how unreal recommends, you get wack effect in HDR vs SDR
literally not the same color sometimes.
those fx effects are just generated incredibly different on the engine based on the tonemap
cedar musk
I see, then i got to change it until it gets similar or how i want 
rustic echo
sometime it's easy, but 90% you gotta live with it, since it depends on the renodx modder
I think spri and forge got it pretty close
like everything is exactly how you expect from SDR to HDR, but effects goes wild, and only effects. a red fireball can go purple, it's wild.
woeful raven
HDR10 will do that, it's even worse in UE sometimes
No
woeful raven
I see, then i got to change it until it gets similar or how i want <:patrickNote...
No
Its not hdr10, just due to how the lutbuilder is handled for sdr
@stark shuttle pr whatever you did
jovial tiger
why perlica looking me like that
Speaking of perlica I open gamebanana to check out new mods and this is the first thing I see 
cedar musk
what do you expect from mods of an anime game
or any game tbh, most of them are gooner shi
jovial tiger
I dont know...
I didnt expect pregnancy mods to be so popular
Like in stellar blade pregnant mod is among top 20 downloaded mods I think
People are strange
cedar musk
I guess is not hard to do?
jovial tiger
I would think so
cedar musk
still, endfield mods are pretty bad. so much low effort
jovial tiger
Still out of all the things possible with mods playing as a pregnant woman is not something that would ever cross my mind 
jovial tiger
still, endfield mods are pretty bad. so much low effort
I mean there a few decent ones but most of them are pretty eh
cedar musk
decent one are usually just assets from other games and placed into endfield
jovial tiger
I was just about to mention the 2B mod for Laevatain
Looks to be more effort put in it than most other mods
cedar musk
also endfield models have too much detail, kinda hard to make a mod to look as good
jovial tiger
But yeah in general when it comes to gacha modding out of all the games I played I would say ZZZ probably has the most high effort mods. People do genuinely try with a lot of the mods
Instead of just removing accessories and increasing ass and boob sliders
cedar musk
zzz models look easy to mod
in a sense that would fit the world
like the genshin ones
jovial tiger
cedar musk
im more disappointed in stellar blade mods...
not a single decent mod, i just want to ungoon the main character with more proper clothing
jovial tiger
Most of them are just making outfits more skimpy
But there are a few interesting ones like this
Worth considering for a replay
cedar musk
yeah i saw her, her fit looks cool, but i saw that you don't get her
jovial tiger
Ya her fit is pretty cool looks really good for a collab
jovial tiger
yeah i saw her, her fit looks cool, but i saw that you don't get her
But wym you dont get her?
jovial tiger
the shop she has don't have her fit to buy
You get it after defeating her I am pretty sure
cedar musk
oh, i just started the game, probably gonna do it later then
also, why all the hair option are kinda ugly
stark shuttle
<@201490995827703808> pr whatever you did
you want me to make a pr into your repo? or a different one
woeful raven
you want me to make a pr into your repo? or a different one
whose repo did you base it off
stark shuttle
yours
stark shuttle
okok thanks
its good to have someone take a look at my slop
runic dove
not a single decent mod, i just want to ungoon the main character with more prop...
stellar blade mods are dire and I hate it, there's genuinely nothing decent
there's such little non gooner outfits in the base game too
unborn hare
okok thanks
its good to have someone take a look at my slop
Dude, I still dont get how you managed to slap this together "from 0" in two days, but it works. I suppose you meant with 0 knowledge and 0 experience? No idea tho if its technically correct. The SSR improvements are visible in Dijang, and the AO looks nicer than vanilla, so I guess the mod is actually working now
stark shuttle
Dude, I still dont get how you managed to slap this together "from 0" in two day...
clanker
and i mean with zero knowledge about renodx and shader, not coding generally
you can check it out here
unborn hare
My methodology didnt really work out. Basically, I just looked at the spiwar repo, checked which shaders the mod had modified, and then tried to find the same code blocks (felt like monkey job) in the freshly dumped and decompiled game shaders. Then I just asked clanker to compare vanilla vs mod and port the fixes over.
UI stuff was easy enough even without clanker (me stronk), but the AO stuff was a 100% pure slop (later Forge explained theres some fuckery with deferred shader decomp). I also looked into some shaders that were .asm and had no idea what to even do with that shit
unborn hare
clanker
and i mean with zero knowledge about renodx and shader, not coding gener...
hah ok, now i dont feel so useless
stark shuttle
i used codex and honestly the only thing i really did was letting the clanker match the old shaders with the new shader dump with a scoring system
and it gave me pretty much all the correct matches
then i made multiple builds where on the specifics improvements exited in each,
told the clanker to move over the improvements onto the new shader logic
then did some manual testing here and there and figured out that the cbuffer changed and they added some new texture inputs in some stuff
^ the extra texture inputs fucked me up for quite some with the SSR as i was not aware of it
but once i figured that out everything else was fixed relatively fast
i didn't have to deal with any decompiling as codex just did all that stuff for me
unborn hare
yeah i also noticed that cbuffers were different in latest version and this coordinates or whatever also changed
coordinates i mean these xy. wz. and so on
unborn hare
i didn't have to deal with any decompiling as codex just did all that stuff for ...
codex decompiled cso??
stark shuttle
yea i had no issues at all
stark shuttle
to be more accurate it turned that stuff into bytecode and then compiled it into DXBC assembly
unborn hare
so you basically did not even touch the hlsl code?
unborn hare
copilot clanker in vscode is worse then yours?
stark shuttle
atleast codex 5.4 and 5.5 do a pretty good job
i kinda feel like with the way i did it it's possible to just automate the whole fix process with codex, we only need the shader dumps
as long as nothing too major changes
if it breaks again on an update
stark shuttle
now watch it break again when the new map releases in 2 days
rustic echo
as long as the cbuffers still exist, otherwise we need to bring in master forge to think up new math
woeful raven
stable lava
this is on low settings
as if max changes anything
woeful raven
>this is on low settings
as if max changes anything
serene bridge
2h of content
fleet socket
https://fxtwitter.com/a_daayum/status/2054800417750700251
where the sdr mode smh
woeful raven
2h of content <:kekpepehands:1409649023870173377>
why is this so desaturated vs the sdr
woeful raven
where the sdr mode smh
@stark shuttle did u pr the thing
serene bridge
why is this so desaturated vs the sdr
remember you're comparing to typical twitter sdr saturation juiced screenshot
woeful raven
oh yeah maybe he edited that
stark shuttle
<@201490995827703808> did u pr the thing
yea i did pr the clanker slop
did the new map not break anything?
i guess there was no patch
serene bridge
nothing broke, finished running through the new area
woeful raven
yea i did pr the clanker slop
yeah ok i'll review it in a bit
rustic echo
that screenshot was cherry picked, but it shows some harsh deficiencies when you stop moving. Those light-devoided textures are insanely low and ugly.
Flat is flat once you stop and smell the flowers, though in motion it's is pretty nice looking.
woeful raven
Midfield Update
- incorporated new shaders from @stark shuttle
- rebased
- runs original SDR code when in vanilla, requires going back to the LOGIN MENU for this to take effect
@cedar musk @fleet socket @safe swallow
fleet socket
based. i love ya
safe swallow
Oh hey, nice
woeful raven
try and see if there's any issue
safe swallow
I don't have the game
fleet socket
I don't have the game
you've been pinged, now you gotta
safe swallow
I do love spiwar, but maybe not that much
cedar musk
**Midfield Update**
- incorporated new shaders from <@201490995827703808>
- reb...
Just in time that my monitor broke
Gon a try it in mi good ol 1080p monitor
woeful raven
I do love spiwar, but maybe not that much
its ok
i dont even have the game installed
safe swallow
Same
woeful raven
need someone to test whether it works to fix the colors in SDR and provide some pictures
there are somethings I might have to remove additionally but I might not need to if the results are close enough
cedar musk
Gonna test in 3 hours.
stark shuttle
fleet socket
for some reason, reshade is making my game take forever to go through the launch company logos
woeful raven
Use latest reshade?
glacial kayak
I get that periodically with reshade in r1999 too, not sure what causes it
Happened on both nvidia and amd
woeful raven
well, i mean in SDR, versus SDR without reno
stark shuttle
ah right
woeful raven
right now the "vanilla" in reno is running an approximation of the SDR grade instead of the pure vanilla code
stark shuttle
woeful raven
is one without addon?
woeful raven
there are some places where the thing also kinda changes a lot
this was what i was addressing
for sdr users
stark shuttle
this one is without any addons
woeful raven
doesn't look that different at first glance to me
glacial kayak
fleet socket
do i just set the tonemapper to vanilla, reboot the game/go to login screen, and it should just work(tm)?
stark shuttle
i was about to say i found some weird flickering here with the metal bars, but its in vanilla too 💀
cedar musk
**Midfield Update**
- incorporated new shaders from <@201490995827703808>
- reb...
back home, wdym by going back to login menu
woeful raven
why so bright
can @fleet socket confirm this
fleet socket
i have this but idk how much is due to weird color management issues on linux. so i think its better to check with others
(reno sdr vs. vanilla game)
woeful raven
aaalright
just go back to whatever build ya'll were using
guess i have to reinstall this after all
maybe this weekend or next weekend
glacial kayak
meager igloo
so with the new build, should I still disable game GTAO and use some other AO shaders?
or is AO fixed
stark shuttle
AO and all the other improvements are fixed
or should be at the very least
if you find any issues lmk
dusky wave
Truly
woeful raven
so might as well
glacial kayak
yes
woeful raven
the mod is completely fine in sdr
@fleet socket @cedar musk are you both running linux
fleet socket
i am as i said lol
woeful raven
buddy have you tried other encoding space
otehr than what you used before
hdr10
scrgb
et cetera
fleet socket
yeah they all look borked
fleet socket
oh that i havent done
woeful raven
...
fleet socket
just going back to login screen
fleet socket
got it
fleet socket
i am indeed on amd but how would that affect things?
fleet socket
yes
woeful raven
yes
nvidia can display hdr10 in sdr mode fine
amd slop have issues
thats on windows
likely the same on linux
fleet socket
damn you are indeed correct lol. sorry for the trouble
fleet socket
amd?
cedar musk
ye
cedar musk
im pretty sure i wasn't using hdr10 tho
cedar musk
will try with srgb
cedar musk
both look like they have with whiteish filter on top
fleet socket
on linux the issue is likely just my compositor not supporting hdr
woeful raven
both look like they have with whiteish filter on top
did you restart the game
glacial kayak
not with clanker
shhh
woeful raven
and sdr mode should be on vanilla
fleet socket
both look like they have with whiteish filter on top
set the tonemapper to vanilla too
cedar musk
did you restart the game
yes
glacial kayak
clanker relying on nvidia hacks and not working the way the api is supposed to 
cedar musk
and sdr mode should be on vanilla
if i change it to vanilla i can't change encoding
should i change it then go back to vanilla i guess
fleet socket
yeah its annoying. change the tonemapper to renodx, change encoding, change it back to vanilla
then restart the game
glacial kayak
maybe try getting into the actual game
i still have the game downloaded so let's see what happens while all of us amd copers are around
cedar musk
glacial kayak
oof
woeful raven
i wont download this on my amd laptop
so if at least one amd user report this works
i am done
glacial kayak
lmao
fleet socket
solution: switch to linux if you're on amd
woeful raven
vanilla doesn't grey out encoding anymore
remove unnecessary code that runs in sdr
fleet socket
vanilla doesn't grey out encoding anymore
remove unnecessary code that runs in s...
does this change anything regarding the tonemapper? it looks closer to vanilla sdr without reno than before, but it might just be placebo lol
woeful raven
does this change anything regarding the tonemapper? it looks closer to vanilla s...
it is literally the vanilla code
glacial kayak
interesting
fleet socket
it works just fine for me too but ive seen multiple people complaining about it lol
glacial kayak
it just closes for me
cedar musk
idk, i just use it with opti
glacial kayak
dunno
woeful raven
it just closes for me
check if you have any vulkan installation
glacial kayak
worked fine through sk
woeful raven
the game first launched fine for me
then it stopped launching from 2nd time onwards
turns out vulkan reshade was taking precedence over the reshade inside the game folder
anyways since it works fine
cedar musk
fixed all of the broken rendering improvements for 1.2.4
works with new maps
and...
idk whats the difference with the last one you guys shared, but this one look fine
fleet socket
i dont really care about those personally
cedar musk
oh shi looks green, i remember why
woeful raven
alright if no one cares i'll leave it disabled
its as close to the sdr code as you can get
cedar musk
what makes you happy 👍 personally im sure they will add game filters like in wuwa
surely
maybe
gloomy tulip
Hdr is fraud 
cedar musk
the only thing i care is that this thing won't look weird, it makes me feel im playing the game wrong
woeful raven
the only thing i care is that this thing won't look weird, it makes me feel im p...
yes
thats the point of this
glacial kayak
well it worked when i was using it through sk which is the extent of troubleshooting i feel like doing right now
woeful raven
this is running the sdr code now
cedar musk
well it worked when i was using it through sk which is the extent of troubleshoo...
but working correctly?
glacial kayak
seemed like it
didn't get the washed out stuff or whatever that clipping is
encoding is on hdr10
cedar musk
bcuz before i was playinh with fucked colors for like a month until i watched someone else playing and they colors were way different
cedar musk
encoding is on hdr10
so you are using hdr
glacial kayak
turned off rn
fleet socket
bcuz before i was playinh with fucked colors for like a month until i watched so...
lmao
how did u not notice it
cedar musk
how did u not notice it
it was looking like this for some colors, usually with lighting and glow
this is vanilla
cedar musk
so it was just some small things
fleet socket
thanks again
woeful raven
jovial tiger
Mmmm I love 8k ultra realistic inzane background mountains 
keen vigil
Mmmm I love 8k ultra realistic inzane background mountains <a:HAPPY:121460193717...
Dark Souls 2 tier
glacial kayak
That's high praise
arctic echo
**Midfield Update**
- finishing touch for sdr/vanilla users
Is it expected for this version to affect HDR colours?
woeful raven
no
arctic echo
It does for me. Dunno if it's just something funky on my end
woeful raven
sounds like a you issue
unborn hare
Curse of being a mobile gachaslop
for mobile gachaslop it looks fantastic
jovial tiger
for mobile gachaslop it looks fantastic
It really does the game is beautiful in some parts
The new Wuling area especially
twin haven
It really does the game is beautiful in some parts
does the Forge codes still work in latest update?
jovial tiger
does the Forge codes still work in latest update?
Everything works in the latest update. Spiwar posted the updated addon yesterday
twin haven
arctic echo
Well, fresh reshade.ini didn't make a difference. For some reason the yellow/orange lights in spiwar's version are messed up for me. Ratmin's one is fine though.
stark shuttle
Well, fresh reshade.ini didn't make a difference. For some reason the yellow/ora...
can you show some examples?
Spiwar merged my fixes and i believe cleaned stuff up, fixed sdr and updated the renodx base
he also updated the code so it uses mb functions from the main repo now instead of (i believe) their own implementations which maybe could affect color?
but it should give the same or a sameish result
- it looks fine on my end
idk if that could be somekind of cache issue
woeful raven
Well, fresh reshade.ini didn't make a difference. For some reason the yellow/ora...
Screenshot
arctic echo
woeful raven
Compared to the older version?
arctic echo
Older version
dusky wave
sounds like a you issue
woeful raven
it does look different (left my version, right spiwar newest)
Ok
Change the hue shift/perch blowout values
increase per channel blowout or reduce fart shift
or both
defaults are 100 for fart shift and 25 for per channel blowout
change it to 75 and 50 or something
if it looks good i'll bake that in as the new defaults
stark shuttle
i'm testing other settings
woeful raven
that's just the two you gotta mess with
you dont have to match the previous version btw
it just needs to look about the same
or not weird
or even better
woeful raven
this is with some internal values changed in case you can't tune it to look right
stark shuttle
hue shift and channel blowout are hidden btw
i made a build to unhide them and added a toggle to switch between the old and new colors
stark shuttle
its.. still hidden xD
unless i'm blind
maybe its just me but i just can't find values that feel fully right
woeful raven
huh maybe i didnt save before i compile
woeful raven
maybe its just me but i just can't find values that feel fully right
try this one
woeful raven
looks pretty close
are 35 sat 100 highlight sat your personal preference
how does it look with all defaults
stark shuttle
thats the original
i made a toggle to switch between the original colors and new ones
woeful raven
if you can find me the new defaults using the new mb method
with the stock settings
i'll bake it in
the hue/blowout valuews
stark shuttle
ah right i forgot that i use the tech test look
woeful raven
lol
stark shuttle
35/100 is the standard value from that not 25/100
cedar musk
not sure what this means. screen looks whiteish
woeful raven
not sure what this means. screen looks whiteish
are you launching using vulkan
or do you have a renodx vk installation somewhere
cedar musk
this means is dx11 right
arctic echo
<@172714835249856512> use this
Seems the same. The Reshade UI changes also don't seem to be applying. Even the setting tonemapper to vanilla still disables the encoding option.
cedar musk
or do you have a renodx vk installation somewhere
renodx vk installation somewhereoh that i dont rmemeber
arctic echo
Seems the same. The Reshade UI changes also don't seem to be applying. Even the ...
And is this supposed to have adjusted defaults for hue shift and per channel blowout? The fresh ini it generated still has 100 and 25.
woeful raven
renodx vk installation somewhereoh that i dont rmemeber
even for DX11 version
make sure VK isnt overriding
delete reshade from programdata/reshade
woeful raven
And is this supposed to have adjusted defaults for hue shift and per channel blo...
no
it is supposed to have the sliders visible and unlocked
so you can find the new defaults
i am not reinstalling this game
arctic echo
Not sure where the fault is, but I'm getting literally the same file as the pinned version. It's the 14th May build actually.
stark shuttle
i feel like hue shift 75 and per channel blowout 65 or 70 are the best?
but i also feel like it just doesn't feel fully right
woeful raven
oh
lol
ok
try this one buddy
ignore the old ones
i grabbed it from the wrong folder
stark shuttle
Not sure where the fault is, but I'm getting literally the same file as the pinn...
can you test out hue shift 75 and per channel blowout 65 on the new build and give your opinion?
or 85/75
yea i personally like 85/75 the most
stark shuttle
ye i'm testing the settings on there rn
arctic echo
85/75 looks fine in Cradle and Lae's attacks. 85/70 is maybe closer to the older version, but either way.
woeful raven
Midfart Update
- Adjusted internal values used for hue correction
- Unhide Fart Shift and Per Channel Blowout sliders (defaults are now 85/75)
woeful raven
**Midfart Update**
- Adjusted internal values used for hue correction
- Unhide F...
thanks gamers, let me know if there are other issues
I'll pr this back to main tomorrow
cedar musk
i can't get the new versions to work
woeful raven
woeful raven
i can't get the new versions to work <:patrickNotes:1410072116082118778>
use this
and
- wipe your existing reshade config
- use the d3d12.dll here and the addon above, launch in DX11
2a. make sure there is no reshade inC:\ProgramData\ReShade
- test with every other external slop disabled (optiscaler, etc)
cedar musk
fixed all of the broken rendering improvements for 1.2.4
works with new maps
and...
but i wonder what makes it different. This works, the rest has that whiteish filter
woeful raven
since you're playing this in sdr
- use scRGB or sRGB encoding (on AMD)
- switch to vanilla
- remember to restart game
cedar musk
I give up, gonna try again when i get my monitor back
sturdy osprey
Shittracing
we need universal rt implementation vendor agnostic
Implemented into dx12 standard
vestal cargo
Mmmm I love 8k ultra realistic inzane background mountains <a:HAPPY:121460193717...
110 fps max on rtx 5060ti+5700x btw
640x480 this is what happens when you refuse to offload on gpu and optimize the game
jovial tiger
But I thought this was the most optimised gacha game ever
vestal cargo
Mmmm I love 8k ultra realistic inzane background mountains <a:HAPPY:121460193717...
Btw, I won't even be surprised if they don't use one triangle per tree here
woeful raven
But I thought this was the most optimised gacha game ever <:kekpepehands:1409649...
Its a 5700x
What do people expect
jovial tiger
I mean its still a pretty solid CPU even if a bit old now
vestal cargo
True
woeful raven
I mean its still a pretty solid CPU even if a bit old now
Ya and 110fps is perfectly acceptable
For a 6 year old arch
jovial tiger
Ya I agree
vestal cargo
oh shiet, 2 more years and it's officially old
woeful raven
this is like 1060 users complaining when the newest games dont run smoothly on their system
Accept in this case it is running well
vestal cargo
this is like 1060 users complaining when the newest games dont run smoothly on t...
Is it really architecture?
jovial tiger
I just hope we get raytracing on PC I have no idea how much apple paid them to release raytracing on iphones only. Like with ZZZ having HDR support only on playstation. Raytracing too until people found a way to force enable dx12
woeful raven
Is it really architecture?
8700g is zen 4
jovial tiger
Gacha games and having fps/hdr/raytracing exclusivity tied to consoles and phones is so dumb
vestal cargo
Oh well, ddr5 can take 6000mhz
woeful raven
What is your point buddy
vestal cargo
8700g is zen 4
Which one is new rn?
woeful raven
Zen 5
vestal cargo
Oh man
oof
Maybe I should update
But idk, GabeCube will soon hit the market
I'd like Gaben to force the devs to optimize
jovial tiger
Also if you are looking performance comparison on userbenchmark just dont. The owner of the site is a known intel shill that has a comical hate boner for amd
Actually despises them
vestal cargo
Well, it's impossible to buy ddr5 under reasonable price right now
stable lava
we need universal rt implementation vendor agnostic
that's called DXR on pc
vestal cargo
I think prices will newer recover now
meager igloo
110 fps max on rtx 5060ti+5700x btw
game is extremely CPU sensitive in Wuling
vestal cargo
game is extremely CPU sensitive in Wuling
I get max 110 anywhere
meager igloo
using the CCD with 3D v-cache I can get to 180 fps while the other CCD only runs at 130 fps
meager igloo
then it's probably a GPU bottleneck instead of a CPU one, idk
vestal cargo
then it's probably a GPU bottleneck instead of a CPU one, idk
Dude, I just posted
vestal cargo
then it's probably a GPU bottleneck instead of a CPU one, idk
#1440801914165002322 message
meager igloo
that's weird
you'd think in places like the valley the CPU would be able to push more frames
vestal cargo
Why u need >60 fps in this gacha slop game?
Because less than 144 hurts my eyes
unborn hare
Feels like a waste of electricity
unborn hare
Because less than 144 hurts my eyes
Dude u have 5700
vestal cargo
jovial tiger
Why u need >60 fps in this gacha slop game?
Gotta watch the booba jiggle in 144fps
unborn hare
I mean, you probably can afford better cpu
vestal cargo
Gotta watch the booba jiggle in 144fps
I would install zzz for this then
unborn hare
But you have 5700 and expect 144 in modern games?
vestal cargo
I mean, you probably can afford better cpu
I need to update mobo and memory for this
stable lava
Why u need >60 fps in this gacha slop game?
more is always better
jovial tiger
I would install zzz for this then
Its worth it just for the character models. The detail they put in them is inzaneee
If only story didnt go to shit
vestal cargo
If only story didnt go to shit
True
unborn hare
more is always better
Human eye cant see more then 24 fps
Thats why movies are 24 fps
vestal cargo
Human eye cant see more then 24 fps
Why people still try to ragebait with this nonsense
jovial tiger
@woeful raven as someone who played the og arknights is this going to be as hard as people are making it to be? People are saying this was the hardest mode in the og game 
glacial kayak
Contingency contract was the seasonal challenge mode in the original
Depending on how you stacked modifiers for more points/rewards it could be extremely difficult
But people are going to struggle with a similar idea in something that's an action game a lot less than tower defense
jovial tiger
So basically you pick stuff like enemies having more hp/damage and such stuff and make it as hard as you want it to be?
vestal cargo
So basically you pick stuff like enemies having more hp/damage and such stuff an...
Boring
jovial tiger
Idk I had fun with such gamemodes in other games. Makes you actually use your brain when it comes to combat. Umbral monument really was not that hard so far even on agony mode
glacial kayak
So basically you pick stuff like enemies having more hp/damage and such stuff an...
Correct
jovial tiger
glacial kayak
In arknights you get other modifiers like which tiles can be deployed on and what operators can be used and specific operators to buff and nerf
But I don't know how much any of that really translates over
arctic echo
Yeah, not sure what they have planned for modifiers in Endfield. Feels like the design space would be a lot smaller
fleet socket
fucking finally, some hot man to roll for https://fxtwitter.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/2057788312526725436
jovial tiger
fucking finally, some hot man to roll for https://fxtwitter.com/AKEndfieldJP/sta...
He looks so good
Dunno if we are getting him first or Mi Fu first
serene bridge
jovial tiger
stable lava
where RT
glacial kayak
you wont ever reinstall endfield u larper
I never uninstalled it I just don't play
cedar musk
So basically you pick stuff like enemies having more hp/damage and such stuff an...
Maybe more diverse debuffs. The ones on the video were: Can't dodge, enemies when they die they leave a poison area, can't stack certain effects as fast, can't change between characters
jovial tiger
Maybe more diverse debuffs. The ones on the video were: Can't dodge, enemies whe...
Yaya saw the video looks pretty good overall
cedar musk
Well since the playerbase in general I really doubt they have many characters built my guess is that it won't be that hard
median robin
Probably won't be too hard to get the main rewards, but anything beyond that should hopefully be rather challenging
median robin
Looks pretty good!
rustic echo
I donno, i always hated arena fights. It's sadly almost all endfield has in this category, and now they're just adding more.
median robin
cedar musk
I donno, i always hated arena fights. It's sadly almost all endfield has in this...
I said it, they can't do much since the game don't have a lot
I expect it in a year that CC or any other endgame involves using turrets, multiple teams, maybe tower defense
rn people are barely understanding the kits (me) and there isn't a lot of diversity in how teams play
twin haven
gone back to the game, now it doesn't even launch but uninstalling reshade works
renaming to d3d12 also doesnt work
arctic echo
So far I haven't really had any issue with it, but I'm loading Reshade through Optiscaler
twin haven
So far I haven't really had any issue with it, but I'm loading Reshade through O...
is there a tutorial for that?
arctic echo
is there a tutorial for that?
Though there might be better options if you're not going to use any part of Optiscaler
twin haven
<https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler/wiki/Compatibility-with-other-mods-(Re...
didn't do that way but managed to get it working now 
but dlss is missing though
bruh the fuck HG is doing, i think they removed DLSS option for all due to DOF pixelation issue 
twin haven
nvm just had to spoof my name, though now it looks obnixous
arctic echo
Is your actual card an Nvidia? You could try enabling the spoof in Optiscaler instead if yes, though I don't know why the DLSS option would be missing in the first place in that case.
twin haven
nvm just had to spoof my name, though now it looks obnixous
only this works
twin haven
Is your actual card an Nvidia? You could try enabling the spoof in Optiscaler in...
reddit says they disabled it with 3050 laptop, 2050, 2060 and other "low spec" rtx gpuis
arctic echo
I see
arctic echo
tried spoofing with opti but no luck
Odd. Dunno if it actually didn't enable or if it behaves differently on Nvidia cards. Cause it works for me, but I'm using an AMD card. I know the spoofing would be off by default on Nvidia.
fleet socket
man, idk how some of you don't go crazy doing dailies every day. this shit is ass
glacial kayak
You could make it more tolerable by removing Elysia
woeful raven
man, idk how some of you don't go crazy doing dailies every day. this shit is as...
So when are you uninstalli g
vestal cargo
man, idk how some of you don't go crazy doing dailies every day. this shit is as...
wdym? Just login, make one peace of equipment, then one gift on Dijiang, that's it
Takes like less than one minute
twin haven
actually this gacha game is one of the easiest to daily
can get to 100 pts easily
just level up equipment and champion
median robin
I mean there's a bunch more you could do aside from the daily points, but yes
median robin
lmao
jovial tiger
It really is the gacha with the quickest and easiest dailies
And next patch they are making it even easier to do dailies
jovial tiger
Like you won't even need to move your character anymore once you log in to do dailies
median robin
CC is looking really interesting as well. Of course if you hate the base combat system then tough luck
unborn hare
Like you won't even need to move your character anymore once you log in to do da...
Literally no need to move a character to complete dailies
jovial tiger
Literally no need to move a character to complete dailies
Ya and at that point if you cba to set aside half a minute to boot up the game and half a minute to do the dailies every day then thats not because the dailies are tedious or long as some people paint them to be
Its just not wanting to play the game at all
unborn hare
I just complete dailies and stock stuff using phone during lunch and after work i just play the actual game
cedar musk
Idk. The days I don't feel like playing i just don't log in. And when i have the monthly I just log in for 2 minutes
woeful raven
Its just not wanting to play the game at all <:kek:1143585926749106196>
More like the dailies are ass
Compound with the other ass shit in this game
Make people dont want to play
jovial tiger
More like the dailies are ass
Idk man all I have to say is
hasty zinc
A lot of people will not admit it but they don't want to actually play gachas, they just want to gamble
It's why a lot of the discourse revolves around the currency you get, free pulls, gacha mechanics, etc. They treat the actual game as window dressing
Endfield's dailies are some of the least aggravating ones, you just navigate through a couple of menus and you're done, deliveries are mostly fluff after the first couple of weeks, the 90 credits you get from them amounts to basically nothing
woeful raven
A lot of people will not admit it but they don't want to actually *play* gachas,...
or the game just isn't fun
sturdy osprey
A lot of people will not admit it but they don't want to actually *play* gachas,...
Entire story blocks being made to promote a character
woeful raven
I spend dozens of hours in arknights
sturdy osprey
woeful raven
any there's no rewards
hasty zinc
It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, not finding the game fun is fair
unborn hare
A lot of people will not admit it but they don't want to actually *play* gachas,...
i just feel safe in this dopamine loop
sturdy osprey
It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, not finding the game fun is fair
It was
unborn hare
i know what im doing and what im going to get
sturdy osprey
At genshin players
hasty zinc
It's undeniable that a lot of gacha players engage with them that way though
unborn hare
any game stops being fun if you 100% it or you already 100%-d a game which is very similar
like 100%-ing Odyssey and then jumping into Valhalla - no fun
but without odyssey i would love valhalla more
hasty zinc
The game has a lot of issues, but I'd say dailies are probably pretty low on the list
hasty zinc
For me personally, the story
unborn hare
spiwar will tell that issue is that the game is not fun
hasty zinc
biggest issue by far
hasty zinc
I didn't play the original AK, but everything I've read about it makes me wish it leaned more on that line instead of what we got
unborn hare
just mid
hasty zinc
Endmin characterization is plain and uninteresting, I'm sure you've read many similar complaints
I didn't mind it at first but we've done the "Arrive to place, fix issue, get glazed to oblivion" several times now, wish they'd move on a bit from that
unborn hare
i would prefer to know less about the game and about the thoughts that people have
median robin
oh brother
if only endfield didn't have the same IP name
people wouldn't give two shits
median robin
I prefer to look at stuff as a standalone title and not compare it to other things
unborn hare
how? ak is a fucking tower defense game 😄
sturdy osprey
wdym how, both have a story
Thats basis for a game
thats like saying you cant compare 2 different movies
Lol
unborn hare
since when games became movies?
sturdy osprey
since when you started making such dumb arguments
median robin
this guy
sturdy osprey
Waste of time
median robin
I'm not sure why you even waste your own time talking about a game you hate so much
hasty zinc
As long as it's developed by the same company they would unavoidably compare it to AK
median robin
surely can't be a good feeling right?
sturdy osprey
I'm not sure why you even waste your own time talking about a game you hate so m...
Why waste your time talking to someone who hates a game
that you love
median robin
lmao
unborn hare
thats like saying you cant compare 2 different movies
dude can u compare gta and rdr?
both have stories and both are rockstar games
sturdy osprey
Better to just shut and enjoy
median robin
I wouldn't say love, I just don't hate it like so many others do
sturdy osprey
🙏
unborn hare
but these are different games
unborn hare
agree, decent game
thats it
its not shit
not absolute dogshit
*i rolled best characters for free
median robin
it's a very mid game
sturdy osprey
Im saying decent mostly for the art btw
median robin
which is okay for me as long as I enjoy said mid game
unborn hare
banishers ghosts of new eden is a mid game
but i fucking love it for some reason
just the vibes idk
hasty zinc
It's the only 3D gacha I enjoy
unborn hare
endfield?
unborn hare
i like that its scifi
median robin
let's be honest. Pretty much all 3D gachas are mid
not sure what makes Endfield so much worse than the others, but oh well
median robin
ew
median robin
hasty zinc
I know some people really dislike the factory side of the game but I genuinely enjoy it
unborn hare
hehe
median robin
the factory part is polarizing, but I think it's great
sturdy osprey
its prob much more enjoyable now since you can skip tutorials
median robin
having to remake parts of it every patch is my highlight
unborn hare
for those who dislike it, you can literally copypaste blueprints from web
median robin
I'm happy that at least the CC lobby music in Endfield seems to take after the OG arknights CC lobby
the song that was shown fucking slaps
unborn hare
ah yeah
i really like the music in endfield
it reminds me of deus ex (im sorry dont kill me)
median robin
The music has honestly been my biggest issue, but it is getting better
wuling ost has mostly been good
unborn hare
i just arrived to wuling, cant say
woeful raven
spiwar will tell that issue is that the game is not fun
the story is also disgustingly mid
median robin
it has been mid yes, but I have faith it's going in a more interesting direction now
they did have a bit of a reset previous patch
unborn hare
but perlica
woeful raven
it has been mid yes, but I have faith it's going in a more interesting direction...
it lost steam for me
if the story gets good now u have to sit thru the gameplay
woeful raven
I can just go play og arknights
median robin
there is a major patch every 6 weeks?
honestly not sure what the schedule is at this moment
woeful raven
Good thing about arknights is that the game is still fun even if you click on the skip story button
median robin
I do miss OG arknights occasionally
unborn hare
I do miss OG arknights occasionally
its not available anymore? didnt get it
median robin
no it is
woeful raven
its not available anymore? didnt get it
It is
median robin
I just quit a long time ago and never picked it back up
woeful raven
I have an arknights classic hdr mod
In the pins
If someone is playing it on emulator on pc
median robin
was there ever a PC client coming for the game?
woeful raven
Arknights doesnt have a pc client on global
Cn has pc client
If u want to play on pc
U use android emu
I made a mod for the android emu
hasty zinc
I believe AK players when they say the story is good, but then they go and say the gameplay is good too (defense tower ) and I don't know if they're pulling my leg
Maybe it's good for defense tower enjoyers
median robin
it is a really good TD
unborn hare
not my cup of tea tbh
woeful raven
Peak of tower defense mechanics
median robin
but TD is also very polarizing
hasty zinc
Which is crazy because the tower defense bits in AKE are... bad
sturdy osprey
Maybe it's good for defense tower enjoyers
It is
median robin
I did like how you had so many different ways to solve a stage etc
or you could just Surtr your way through shit
woeful raven
ya basically u can theory craft a lot of different combinations and they could be totally legit
sturdy osprey
Surtr doesnt always work tho
median robin
nah it was just a meme
median robin
my knowledge of the game is very outdated
So now you W your way through everything?
that is W right
median robin
W'hite
woeful raven
you press the button and remove your brain
walter shoots out one shot
it deals 5 morbillion damage and has an AOE effect of half the map
and it happens to also target aerial units
median robin
perfectly balanced
what emulator is the go to one these days? Might have another look at the game after I'm done with the new PoE2 league
median robin
okay that is the one I used last time
glacial kayak
<@69554102069108736> i skipped this entire event
I read 3 nodes or so but haven't had the time to go through it. Seemed solid so far
fleet socket
man, idk how some of you don't go crazy doing dailies every day. this shit is as...
i was joking i just wanted to show the game inside minecraft 😭😭😭
though my dailies do take forever since i do everything
median robin
I did do everything in the beginning, but I pretty quickly cut down on the not as important things to avoid burnout
jovial tiger
Yeah unless you are min maxing everything there's no need to collect plants or do deliveries or collect the useless dijang upgrade material daily.
median robin
at least the dijon upgrade mats can be collected all at once now
good QoL for a useless material lmao
fleet socket
i used to skip the dijiang materials, but it's so easy to farm them now, that i might as well
jovial tiger
Oh yeah and they added it after everyone already upgraded it to the max
median robin
they'll likely add more dijon upgrades in the future
jovial tiger
For sure there are areas that are clearly meant to be unlocked but not yet
median robin
space factory when
jovial tiger
Probably with the next region we visit I'm guessing
fleet socket
idk what they're planning with these materials. currently we have way too much for barely anything
jovial tiger
fleet socket
like, even if they add more stuff to the dijiang, it'll be a drop in the bucket of what i have currently lol
jovial tiger
Maybe recycle in future
median robin
could be that future upgrades become more expensive as well
who knows
although that wouldn't work too well for new players, or players that didn't stock up on the mats I guess
fleet socket
unless they become exponentially more expensive, i dont think it'll matter lol
median robin
lmao true
fleet socket
i have to assume they'll eventually add some sink for this material
median robin
I also want them to do something about the purple essences
let us use them to upgrade orange ones or something at a lower rate
fleet socket
you can trade them for currency but its so little it doesnt matter
im stocking up on mine assuming they'll add something like that eventually
median robin
yeah exactly, it isn't very useful
it was in the beta, but they took it out for some reason
probably to introduce it as fresh QoL later
fleet socket
its because the way essences worked in the beta was very different compared to now
median robin
aaah I see
fleet socket
having that same exact system would make essence grinding way less of a thing with how they work now. though no reason they can't implement something similar but requiring way more purple essences
oh actually, the actual reason it isn't a thing is because purple essences are farmable without requiring sanity lol
median robin
for now they'll stay safely in my inventory
fleet socket
so with such a system, it'd be possible to farm essences without ever using any sanity
though it'd be quite annoying
median robin
I'd welcome the possibility at least
tight wharf
endfield team building is much more interesting than other games right now
you can actually play around with different combinations and it's only going to expand more in depth in the future unless they start doing restrictions
it's more than just rotation and cutscene spam
rustic echo
not really, for all of the orginality of endfield battle system, it's amazingly shallow in key areas, being control, and character selection. For a game with no multiplayer, it lacks any type of incentive for controllable hero, besides having bare minimum companion support for it.
endfield boils down to 1 hero+ 3 supplemental addons, with the added headache of worse targeting, worse control, and worse resource management.
all the "worse" parts solely exist because they didn't have the foresight to fully test their combat system on a 4 hero system
A more mature game would have fully incorporated finer details such as either using time dilation mechanics or AI customization triggers, etc, much like how more RTS like game try to lean into "hero tendancies" to promote better team building (Blue archive for instance relinquishes all control of heros, in favor of AI tendances, aka front/mid/rear/cover/attk ranges/cover while fully leverging a share action skill resource bar)
jovial tiger
I mean if you are really dedicated to squeezing out as much damage as possible against bosses there are some pretty insane rotations that I saw on YouTube. It isn't just spamming attack and abilities without thinking. But I do agree there could be more depth to it. Like assigning how passive or aggressive each teammate could be or in general expanding the stuff you can do in combat. The game is definitely not mature and if you take into account that this is the first Hypergryph game with a combat system like this it's really not that bad for their first attempt
Or well second attempt I saw in beta the combat was more strategic but players hated it so they changed it
I can see how slowing down combat for every ability can get annoying tho
runic dove
the gimmick of characters being out on the field wore off quick, and then i went right back to far preferring wuwa combat
jovial tiger
It is kind of a gimmick but still I prefer exploring the world with other characters rather than just wandering around alone
runic dove
its nice but in combat their AI is just kinda mid
they really need more things to do than just sit in one place and attack a random enemy
jovial tiger
Yeah I had some boss battles where they just ate shit and dropped dead. But that was in umbral monument agony mode
Don't think their AI can really handle that
runic dove
i havent even played that yet because i honestly cant care enough LOL
just logged in enough to clear monthly + get bare minimum for dailies and that's it
jovial tiger
I mean if you don't really care about trimming and getting medals there's not much incentive to do it. Unless the event for the newest umbral monument is happening. Then you can get some pulls from it
runic dove
yeah the event is long over
jovial tiger
For me I cba to do Etchspace salvage. Only reason why I did it is to get rid of the quest in my quest tab
runic dove
i want to get P4 weapon for rossi when mi fu banner comes along but aside from that I'm probably dropping the game
i do not care about next patch phase 2
jovial tiger
Ya I mean if you really aren't enjoying the game no point in forcing yourself to play it.
Unless you have big FOMO but at that point it turns into an addiction
runic dove
i got P5 rossi and I want to leave it on a high note lmao
jovial tiger
hasty zinc
The combat system, especially the companions' AI, could take an improvement, but I'll take that over a swapfest system any day, that kind of combat system is straight up a non-starter for me and I'm glad Hypegryph deviated from it, but there's large room for improvement
I don't expect any significant changes soon though
unborn hare
swapfest
rustic echo
the gimmick of characters being out on the field wore off quick, and then i went...
some people like wuwa, but i personally hate the over piano train that wuwa tries to plus ultra on genshin clone ideals.
But regardless, the difference is endfield in diverging from that brought more baggage with very little benfits to the table, by doing so.
Time dilation for instance should have been incorporated into Endfield combat, because while your QA staff will hate you, it provides almost every benefit with very little downsides. Both targeting and character swapping mechs immediately gets a boast from slowing down time during those inputs. (it would also make ecounters easier, but only try hards would complain)
jovial tiger
I thought everyone hated time dilation and the choosing where your skills land in the technical test and that's why they removed it
Or well most people disliked it
glacial kayak
As we're learning: everyone who played the technical test was objectively wrong about everything
rustic echo
and that's why we got this mess of a not team based combat. They removed instead of refined. over used of time dilation is an issue, but so is having features you can't use because it's too clunky to use is also an issue
rustic echo
As we're learning: everyone who played the technical test was objectively wrong ...
I mean it wasn't great, but it's a problem of what people feel vs how it plays.
slow gameplay was the biggest concern, but also lack of dodges
and of course AI was worthless~ (they still kinda are)
jovial tiger
I mean the technical test combat does look quite rough. Worse than what we have now
But it was a technical test
I'm sure it was salvageable but Chinese gacha gamers abilty to hate on something and make companies bend to their knee is unmatched
glacial kayak
Chinese antis are truly powerful
rustic echo
it shows more the lack of talent/creativity of endfield devs then it does of the testers to be honest
testers jobs are to provide feedback, not how to use the feedback
data is in the eye of the beholder
jovial tiger
Chinese antis are truly powerful
Ya I mean they complained that wuwa was too dark in the tests and same with endfield. Probably other gacha games too where devs wanted to tell a more gritty story but Chinese got offended that the MC isn't worshipped and the world isn't sunshine and rainbows
God forbid the Rover isn't worshipped from the very beginning
From what I heard Edministrator had more of a personality too in the tests but they just cut it out
dusky wave
Midfield keeps on giving
Middle child truly
2.0 will save and we will all be bacc
rustic echo
game shouldve been singleplayer offline experience for the art
they mentioned that in their interviews, they're never doing a SP again for the forseeble future, it almost bankrupted them.