Arknights + AK Endfield

[dusky wave]

which is difficult to replicate since then interiors will just be smogcity

These changes also only apply to Valley IV, Wuling still gets colour grading but I didnt want to mess with it since I dont have any good references

Once again let me know if either

Ass

Or

Gas

[fleet socket]

we've all been playing the game wrong. this is how it's meant to look https://fxtwitter.com/oishigu/status/2019992190953599357

もちしぐ (@oishigu)

😮

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[dusky wave]

Those distant LODs though

[sturdy osprey]

can we fix the lods pls

not everyone plays on 4 inch phone

[dusky wave]

SoonTM

maybe

We know a dood

[sturdy osprey]

they fixed issues with amd gpus i think at least

i dont have square terrain since recent updates

[glacial kayak]

you guys may be focusing on the wrong thing in that tweet

[arctic echo]

Low fidelity background is obviously more important.

[unkempt pulsar]

i don't get the post, what am i supposed to be focusing on

[twin haven]

her emotes idfk based on the emoji

[rustic echo]

this update is now resetting preset#1 color grading everytime i reload the game

[rich acorn]

EFMI can inject Reshade directly now

[median robin]

By using "Inject Libraries" yes?

[strong vault]

Yes I reverted becuase of this. Also dont think I will be using tech test grading. Not because its bad or anything it just doesnt fits the game anymore

[rich acorn]

Yes, reshade pops up as a example with your mouse on it

[median robin]

yeah it works well

[rich acorn]

[delicate pewter]

any news about the memory leak?

[rustic echo]

Well after all the patches it feels better. or maybe I moved off dlss for now

[delicate pewter]

i mean, game runs at 130fps native on a 4080 and 9700x

logically anything 4070 and better can do 120, 4060 and better 90

[rustic echo]

Well....sorta...i'm going 4k, TAAU, with reshade fx's

even with frame gen I can't max 120fps in wuling

and I have a 5080

[delicate pewter]

those are at 4k for me.... how do you get less than me on a 5080?

sec to make sure frame gen is trully off

FG was on and dlaa go enabled on it's own??? anw 85 with then shaders and Reno

man can't wait for the jxl-rs to go to stable chrome so we can skip png... anw, i dig the new filtering, makes it more space theme

[rustic echo]

I"m using smooth motion. But yes nice looking shaders can get expensive

[meager igloo]

you need a 5090 to get 4K 120 w/o upscaling or framegen

with reshade shaders like lumenite

[sturdy osprey]

nothing better than buying 3k gpu to play mobile game with shaders

[stable lava]

wuling is terrribly cpu limited on my 5700x3d/5070ti combo

[sturdy osprey]

turn pathtracing on

[stable lava]

im seeing like 40% gpu usage while in the city lmao

[stable lava]

i wish

at least the gpu wouldn't be asleep

[sturdy osprey]

just slap 4.5 L preset ultra performance on and call it a day

[stable lava]

dof with ultra perf be like
15p

[fleet socket]

i don't really notice the DoF issues until a cutscene gets a bit artsy with the camera angle and the characters turn into pixels

[fiery raft]

trying to inject reshade with addon support into efmi crashes the game on start for me .. what do i need to do for it to work?

[candid oar]

Went into the AGMF discord. You need to do this:

The second inject is the normal dll from EFMI, obv need to take the path where you have them

[dusky wave]

@strong vault @rustic echo

Preset 1 doesnt reset now

[strong vault]

Thanks

[runic dove]

Runs fine on my 5900x/5070ti at 85fps or so with DLAA

[stable lava]

yeah only 80-90 in wuling (specifically the city)

while valley flies at 120 locked

[strong vault]

we need fg

[dusky wave]

• Fixed Preset 1 resetting
• Adjusted Tech Test look to use 80 for shadows (alleviates crushing in interiors)

[dusky wave]

LSFG broooo

[runic dove]

I mean my GPU is maxed out in the city

[strong vault]

Does this tech test just adjusts reno grading sliders or does it do anything under the hood?

[runic dove]

The only time my CPU usage gets high is when memory leak hits and it keeps the CPU around 50% usage

[stable lava]

cpu instantly jumps to 50% usage on my machine

[runic dove]

But the GPU is pretty much always fully loaded

[dusky wave]

• Grading sliders
• Adjusts skybox in Valley IV to match tech test
• Changes colour temp / tint to match tech test

tech test has fog everywhere also

but I dont have a good way to replicate that

[strong vault]

close alt fog

[dusky wave]

perhaps doing some sort of distance fog

its even worse than vanilla

current fog 3x

I was able to shift grass hues into looking similar to the tech test via LUTbuilder

but that griefed Wuling badly

all the Jade looked brownish

so I dropped

He'll do everything other than porting the addon over to Vulkan

[strong vault]

You did all this stuff meanwhile dof is still broken 💔

thanks devs

[dusky wave]

dont worry

SoonTm we have a fix

I tested a fix for GTAO

runs at 3840x2160

in the UAV

stops all the shimmering and wobble wobble

but Miru is working on custom AO anyways

[strong vault]

miru is working on vulkan right? Will you port that over to DX11 or port everything else to vulkan

[dusky wave]

custom AO is bust on DX11

I tried

ran into the game shitting itself

I will port over to VK

VK has special sauce via barriers

[strong vault]

How hard is it to port stuff over to Vk anyways

[dusky wave]

Get grok to do it

and assume it doesnt bork

I am not sure the reshade bypass will work properly

since thats currently using DX based code from what I understand

Then again, wont really need reshade bypass with Miru AO

[strong vault]

true

[dusky wave]

Might also be easier since VK decomp might not shit itself unlike DX11

so I wont have to do .asm reassembled into .,shdr then .cso

for deferred shaders for instance to stop freezing

[warm island]

[dusky wave]

So I was trying to rework fog

as a cope solution reducing the amount of fog close up to the camera based on distance so interiors arent smog city

but then keep the same fog as vanilla or more for distant

added a heat map so I could visual fog

BRUH

Red is 'close' to the camera here

blue is 'far'

500 meters away or right next to the camera is the same distance

'far' only accounts for height from sea level or ground

It does change, dynamically so perhaps theres some control in the cboofers

[sudden nest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-write-scribble-sketch-draw-gif-17181052902092737226

[dusky wave]

dogshit

interiors just get more anti soul gas becasue ?????

christ all mighty

@woeful raven I discovered complete slop

The fog has a circle

thats always there

[woeful raven]

what in the tarnation

[dusky wave]

present in vanilla shaders as well

[dusky wave]

Also I came up with giga brained approach to cbuffer tracing not working in Midfield

back to nursery with basic colours

@woeful raven

[dusky wave]

Vanilla btw

abysmal

trying to solve this sloppa

[stuck sandal]

bro really has made it his responsibility to try to fix every part of this game visually

[dusky wave]

if not us, who else

[sudden nest]

only to break next patch

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[woeful raven]

if breaks next patch

then its a sign

for VK

[dusky wave]

corrrrext

well when is next patch out

because Crimson Lsert is going to have my attention

another slop I will have to mod

[woeful raven]

the patch cycle for this game is longer than the typical

42 days i think

[dusky wave]

Crimson will be March 19th

so late March / early April is booked for me

soz gachalets

[stuck sandal]

at what point do you reach out to the devs and just ask them to implement your stuff? lol

[dusky wave]

[keen vigil]

Right now only DX11 is compatible right?

[dusky wave]

There's a cope VK version in pins

but it has problems

and just has HDR

[keen vigil]

Curious how that game will run, theres so much going on the screen at any give time lmao

Awesome, thanks for the info

[dusky wave]

4K 60FPS with their RT solutions on a 9700xt

per dev reports

with no upscaling

they explicitly mentioned they didnt use DLSS or FSR for that testing

[keen vigil]

That sounds amazing if true, but then again Korean games are usually very well optimized

I remember Stellar Blade looking very good for how it ran

[last hinge]

This is china

[keen vigil]

I thought Pearl Abyss was Korean, my bad

[last hinge]

This is not made by pearl abyss

This is made by hypergryph

Pearl abyss is Korean tho

[keen vigil]

I meant Crimsom Desert which was what Forge was talking about

[last hinge]

Oh right crimson

Thought this was about the game for this channel xD

Especially since u asked dx11

But I missed the reply

[keen vigil]

Oddly crashing with Dx11, gonna restart the process

[keen vigil]

To run the game in DX11, I need to install Reshade with addons via DX11 or Vulkan?

[dusky wave]

d3d12.dll does not mean the game runs under DX12

The game has a separate device, which allows hooking of d3d12.dll

because reshade hooking as dxgi.dll gets blocked by the anti cheat

[keen vigil]

Gotcha, understood, I really was doing something wrong then

Trying this now

[dusky wave]

alternatively you can use the second older method

which hooks reshade using inject64

and the run.bat

that way you can also avoid the hypergryph launcher

[keen vigil]

Working correctly now, as usual I was being dumb as hell

Thanks for the help! And again thanks for all the work.

Man, I really like the beta look

Feels more death strandish

[dusky wave]

yessir

I am trying to unslop this fog

[gloomy tulip]

Forge doing anything but play the game XD

[dusky wave]

I finished the story

at the very least

[keen vigil]

I have a ton to go

I have 100hours and arrived at Wuling 15 min ago

[dusky wave]

Me trying to fix fog

I cant trace cbuffers

so I have to go one by one

using colour debugging

then lock down cbuffers to a set value

[gloomy tulip]

[gloomy tulip]

In dx11 it would be easy (if you have a debugger of course), because cbuffer data is uploaded via on map and on unmap events, you can hook those and check values then modify but ughh

No debugger

[dusky wave]

look at this slop

its terrible

just a sharp sudden change

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah thats really weird, usually it should just fade, unless the thick fogs are local fog volumes and just spawn in and out

[keen vigil]

Its so jarring damm

[dusky wave]

Evil ending

no fog for anyone

[dusky wave]

The way the fog looks at the very top of the zipline matches the Tech test vibe so I want to apply the same cbuffers to the rest of Valley IV (excluding Wuling)

but its all just a PITA

also wanted to do a camera distance based fog reduction because interiors at the moment have too much fog

If only we had engine level controls

[keen vigil]

The original fog does look to be more moody and atmospheric

Why it was changed I wonder? Too demanding? They wanted the game to be mpre cartoonish?

[dusky wave]

no

this is a basic ass linear fog blend

as cheap as it comes in regards to perf

This is just development slop

99.99999999% of players dont care about stuff like this

and I guess so did the devs

You go into an interior and theres just fog everywhere, ruining contrast

it doesnt make sense

[keen vigil]

Oof

Fuck me the beta look is an upgrade in so many ways

When its raining in Wuling the more moody atmosphere hits just right

[dusky wave]

beta look?

oh you mean the tech test

Theres atleast 3 people that like it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJdbAkjKlE

Heres the original visionTM for the game

The shift in tone compared to what we have now is

depressing to see

[keen vigil]

Yeah I mean the tech test

Seems like a pattern gor gacha

Alphas with a more darker and mature tone

Gets sanded down to more light hearted for launch

WuWa has the same happened I think

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave ngl I seem to like vanilla ssr better

[dusky wave]

giga over

dont care about SSR shit until we get native res fix

[woeful raven]

feels like this brick shouldn't be that glossy

in real life

oh

about the ssr stuff

i'll dm you

[dusky wave]

ill change mip value

[dusky wave]

@gloomy tulip @woeful raven @stuck sandal

I said enough of the .asm brainrot. I have decomped the broken hlsl which whatever once I finalise settings I'll move them over to the working .asm.

Added sliders for every single cboooofer

Time to match the scene fog, no more harsh transition slop

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[woeful raven]

Claude must be very happy rn

How many tokens did u use for that

[dusky wave]

If I did this method from the get go

it would have been a single ask

I hate that I went via .asm method first

wait you think claude cooked this up?????

hell no

this is Le Forge ingenuity

[woeful raven]

Im sure you cooked this up

But are u insisting

U manually typed in

Every single slider

[dusky wave]

no

theres like 40 sliders

fuk that noise

[stuck sandal]

that's a lot of sliders lol

[dusky wave]

So the issue was the following, they slopped up

• Height fog
• Fog fade
• Fog ambient
• Fog transparency
• Volumetrics

@Hypergryph

when you hiring me?

[strong vault]

RT is gonna be underwhelming then AMD sponsored sloppa time

[sturdy osprey]

can you implement volumetric fog with reshade

[dusky wave]

AMD sponsored titles have been some straight dookies

Forspoken

Blops 7

[sturdy osprey]

amd is not doing good rn

their denoiser is straight worse than nvidia

[dusky wave]

deathloop

godfall

[strong vault]

Tbh I want to see more from their denoiser

The only game we having is zombies only mode for Black Ops 7 is funny af

[dusky wave]

STARFIELD

forgot about that one

[sturdy osprey]

i think 9070xt just doesnt have enough ai compute so they nerfed it lol

[strong vault]

[dusky wave]

so the game does use actual volumetrics just not for fog

its split so distant fog uses liner fog and then some parts of exterior are linear fog + volumetric

interiors use ..... volumetric fog

[strong vault]

why are they griefing interiors

[dusky wave]

becasue modern grafix

everyone loves anti soul gas

cbuffers get some high values the moment you step into an interior

which sets a lot of gas

[sturdy osprey]

what is "gas"

[median robin]

[dusky wave]

Tech test fog is bak

they really liked their fog back then

[sturdy osprey]

[meager igloo]

Endfield might have the worst compat with Smooth Motion among the games I played

sadge

I wonder which is more likely to happen / sooner; a DX12 mode, or ReshadeVK framegen support

[rustic echo]

I mean rendo dx12 frame gen barely if ever works?

[strong vault]

Wdym

dx12 works with reno

Unless you are upgrading sdr path

with needs dlss fix stuff

pain

[woeful raven]

Use lsfg

[stable lava]

[meager igloo]

ye at that point I might as well just push 120fps w/o slop frames. gets a lil bit toasty though

[gloomy tulip]

Where is this dx12 mode i kept hearing about 😭

[rustic echo]

they only need dx12 if they planning on xbox port

which being ded

[stable lava]

well, some games are on xbox but don't have a dx12 api on pc

ie idTech games

[spiral imp]

forge kun

the grading disappears when pressing on the magnifying glass

minimal but maybe it's also connected to something else

this

[strong vault]

In our dreams

[gloomy tulip]

Grading?

[spiral imp]

tech test look thing that he's doing

[gloomy tulip]

8 bit endfield

[sudden nest]

new reno preset?

[fleet socket]

it's already in the game. just set it to DLSS performance and the DoF will do the rest

[stable lava]

use dlss tweaks to make dlss 10% res scale at 720p output

[robust wagon]

could add a feature to disable character blur in the future

[gloomy tulip]

There we go, main AO shader implemented

[stable lava]

looking nice

[brittle abyss]

Does that hold up in motion ? Because that certainly look fire in stills !

My gawd, this AO looks insanely detailed it's crazy. Who even needs RTAO...

[gloomy tulip]

This is AO generated in 1 single frame without any temporal XD

[tidal finch]

Why would you use smooth motion if there's native framegen lol

[strong vault]

vulkan fg doesnt work with reshade

dx11 dont have fg

[tidal finch]

Oh right

[gloomy tulip]

That being said, using high slice/step settings will kill fps really fast

[strong vault]

Lumenite's Kernel + RTAO is already heavy

I think we will be fine

[sturdy osprey]

rtao with kernel eats like idk 20% fps

[mighty palm]

its over, account bricked

[sturdy osprey]

i like how gacha control how you play by your balls

time limited events, time limited banners, time limited playtime with rewards, time limited weapons

cant take day off

or you are missing half a pull

[mighty palm]

poggspin

GACHA GAMING

[sturdy osprey]

https://klipy.com/gifs/old-people-pressing-buttons-gambling-old-people

[stable lava]

rip xp/mats

[strong vault]

This, time limited banner tickets and specific banner tickets are so stupid

[jovial tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/casino-gambling-cellphone-sight-just-gif-8680473762005360245

[twin haven]

gacha games, either day off or you miss the 0.1% getting your fav character

I won't pull right now, im waiting for a 2nd gen character

Like look at Aemeth in WuWa, she has more animations and the ult big scale is crazy

though the Kawaii emote she does between resonances are bit distracting

[dusky wave]

Time for me to port everything over to VK

[keen vigil]

We believe in you

[keen vigil]

Not a huge gacha player, but first time I noticed this was Castorice on Star Rail

Not only the power got powercrept but the entire animation

[dusky wave]

counterpoint

[keen vigil]

Still need 67 pulls for her guarantee lol

[dusky wave]

Doesnt get her first try

unlucky son

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[keen vigil]

I`m going to assume 67 is an american thing

[dusky wave]

its a dumbass zoomer humour joke

brainrot

[keen vigil]

Ahh gotcha

[dusky wave]

I've set up VK in vs code now

so VK porting begins

Claude... Port over code to VK

Make no mistakes

(second part is very important in the prompt)

[keen vigil]

Lmao

[dusky wave]

BRUH

I just got Gilberta again and Yvonne

In the same pull

[keen vigil]

Come on now

Wtf

What If I told you

I got Last Rite, Ember and Laevatein on the same 10 pull

I lost the 50/50 three times in a row

[dusky wave]

I don't know what this talk about this being the worst gatcha system is all about

I have every character noe

I've only spent monie on the season pass thing

[keen vigil]

I'm only missing Gilberta now

Wuling is such a pretty place

Probably one of my favorite map in gacha so far

[twin haven]

whenever i hear Wuling "Buling" from WuWa always pols up

[covert jetty]

Forge out here following this guide https://x.com/trilinterme/status/2018491820586541233

kawa (@trilinterme)

the endfield gacha is actually quite simple

X · Feb 3, 2026, 1:08 AM

[dusky wave]

I shit you not, I got Gilberta for the secoond time on my first 10 pull for her banner then got here just now again with Yvonne on my 30th pull

I am lucky in this game

Just need her signature weapon noe

I have 50K current in stock for either Rossi or Fangyi

In the future

[keen vigil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-QO7L918LqM?si=52fMw6NVbAKj85iC

[covert jetty]

I was pretty happy to get her in 30. Think I'm just gonna be saving my rolls till Zhuang now

[keen vigil]

Hoping to get her earlier

So I can save for Zhuang as well

Already have her weapon, got it in the first pull

[dusky wave]

Fellas can you test VK

With a frame graph

Because it's micro stuttering constantly for me

It's abysmal

[gloomy tulip]

Its constant even after shader cache warmed up

[dusky wave]

Yes, my frame graph looks like a hearbeat pulse

even standing still

[gloomy tulip]

It pulses even if you limit fps

[dusky wave]

only menus are smooth

[dusky wave]

[keen vigil]

Claude, flatten the framegraph

[gloomy tulip]

Also reflex doesnt work in vulkan I think

[dusky wave]

No surprise

Kal always said its broken in VK

[gloomy tulip]

Because fps doesnt cap to refresh rate at all even with vsync

DX11 does

[dusky wave]

back to DX11 I go

[gloomy tulip]

My code is going through massive refactoring anyway

I know there is a plugin to increased the resolution but I just don't want to risk as I saw it injected to ACE

[dusky wave]

I tested it and was able to get 3840x2160 GTAO g-buffer running

also increase CSM shadow res

and AF 16x

man this micro stutter is asscheeks

I cba to work on VK if it runs like this

[gloomy tulip]

Shadow res is the last I'm worried about XD

Although I want to do something more ambitious like adding SSGI into my GTAO pipeline (since GTAO is screen space tracing already)

[dusky wave]

inb4 they release RTGI

[keen vigil]

Are they planning to? Would be dope

It can't run worse than WuWa

[dusky wave]

They only have RT reflection on IOS

They mentioned on release PS5 and PC would be getting RT and HDR

Guess that's in an alt timeline

[gloomy tulip]

my modding career in shamble

[dusky wave]

Even the character menus stutter

Watching lava cakes animation

And it's just constantly micro stuttering

[idle notch]

atleast they didn't remove dolby atmos

[rustic echo]

does it microstutter? i never noticed it in VK

but early on ish

[twin haven]

have they said anything about Pixelated DOF issue?

[dusky wave]

caused by half res DoF

if you're running 4K DLSS Q

DoF is 720p

theres your issue

If it was native res it wouldnt be pixelated

[tough halo]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-funny-face-gif-9917382033401741568

[dusky wave]

checked via reshade stat tab and then using PresetMon

constant pulsing

Not a shader cache issue since even standing still has the micro stutter

Opening the watch menu flattens the graph but then open up character menu again and its micro stuttering

DX11 in comparison is a flat graph

[dusky wave]

same goes for GTAO and SSR

theyre all half res

I tested forced GTAO of native res (before upscaling) so 3840x2160 g-buffer

and surprise surprise it no longer looks like shit with a bunch of shimmering and wobble wobble everywhere

[tough halo]

13k messages is crazy

[dusky wave]

second only to wuwa

gacha attracts a lot of yapping

[sturdy osprey]

they have issues with the game rn

like that it can use 80% cpu

and 20gb of ram

[twin haven]

heard dxvk is more or less but it's lessened ram leak

[dusky wave]

So rip

I am not doing VK until the stuttering situation is improved, 1% and 0.1% lows drop all the way down into the 30s meanwhile DX11 is stable

meanwhile DX11 fog fixing is rip

since I am hard coding cboooofer it looks good in one area then falls apart in another

I was able to eliminate interior fog but again some areas in Valley IV were griefed

[strong vault]

I never played in VK now you made me curious I gotta try it

[woeful raven]

probably in an ok spot now

[dusky wave]

yes, addon is finishedTM

everything else is outside of our control

or would require per area engine level controls + renderpass

Now its just maintenance for future updates and bug fixes

[gloomy tulip]

Hash the fog cbuffer values and use map to load your config based on hash

[dusky wave]

hol up

thats a thing?

This fella always coming up with solutions to an issue

[strong vault]

Tf is this

oh that was display commander acting up

[gloomy tulip]

It could be possible but ughh I’m not sure how to detect when 1 config lerps to another

[dusky wave]

Thats what I am thinking about

areas are split into separate regions

but they use the same deferred shader

[gloomy tulip]

Not really possible without hooking cpu memory

[dusky wave]

throw out vanilla fog code

and redo in reshade

[gloomy tulip]

I wish the game were single player

[strong vault]

Vulkan indeed sucks, it might be blessing in disguise that we dont have RT

[dusky wave]

if they drop RT and VK runs with those microstutters then bruh

[strong vault]

Think about it

[dusky wave]

rather use Temu SSR

[gloomy tulip]

Tbh wuwa dx12 is also a stutter fest to me

[strong vault]

this is what they say at launcher

probably most of the player base is running vulkan except gooners and hdr chads

[gloomy tulip]

Yes let graphics devs way less experienced than nvidia and amd to write driver code

[rustic echo]

are we using vulkan native or DXGI swap chain in nvidia settings?

[dusky wave]

low level apis and their consquences

DX9 was poopoo

DX12 and VK are poopoo

DX11 is Goldilocks territory

[gloomy tulip]

DX9 is very much like dx11 in its api but 11 with way more formats and functions

In my experience at least

Also cbuffer in dx11 is goated

[dusky wave]

oh yh, DX9 is high level but bruh DX9 is such a pain to work with today

but RT/PT needs DX12 and VK

DX13 will save us

[dusky wave]

didnt see any differences

I just set it to auto

[gloomy tulip]

I don’t see dx13 would go back to dynamic pipelines they have in 11

[strong vault]

If I am not wrong Crysis 1 remastered has RT with DX11 idk how they did it

[gloomy tulip]

More slop engines with their infinite shader permutations

[dusky wave]

VK tacked on

[gloomy tulip]

Software?

[dusky wave]

just for RT

[gloomy tulip]

Oh interesting

[strong vault]

[dusky wave]

yh VK proxy

for RT

rest of the game is DX11

Same way you can get FG to work on DX11

[gloomy tulip]

I think dx11 DLSS is also dx12 interop?

[dusky wave]

DLSS supports DX11 natively

[gloomy tulip]

Oh

[dusky wave]

streamline used to have DX11 support for FG

but they removed it

So now all the mods use DX12 interop

Izeuh is working on it for Luma to add FG

Huutaiii and Puredark do the same

which is how they can get DX11 games to support FG

The challenge is framepacing can be oof sometimes + increased CPU load (not that much of an issue since you offset with FG)

[dusky wave]

what if.... You know that the cbuffer values change drastically depending on the locations

So you capture the values then let it 'if values change to this threshold, this is Area A. if its this values its Area B ect'

oh wait

I cant capture Cbuffers values in DX11

[woeful raven]

i think you've exhausted the shit we can do with reno alone

might as well whip up that tool i sent you

and start getting ingame variables to change

[dusky wave]

yes

[woeful raven]

we got 4k gtao before gta6

maybe a bit more and we get 4k ssr

[dusky wave]

Just need good story now

[sturdy osprey]

and combat

[dusky wave]

gacha with good combat????

[sturdy osprey]

og ak

[dusky wave]

you get press 1,2,3 and 4

[dusky wave]

That has tower defense so is indeed unique for gacha

Endfield also has tower but its underbaked

Only used for outposts

[strong vault]

Its also so simple

[sturdy osprey]

i remember losing roguelike mode with good units

[woeful raven]

wuthering waves

[dusky wave]

Isnt that the same as endfield

4 fellas in a team

[woeful raven]

the reaction system in endfield does get a bit better as you kit your team out

[dusky wave]

1,2,3,4

[woeful raven]

only 3 fellas
https://youtu.be/22ZKBuszGBs

but the style is insane

[dusky wave]

oh right

I forgor

[woeful raven]

sometimes my friend ask me how am I able to discern what is happening

in wuwa

[dusky wave]

ok but we're comparing year 3 characters to endfields year 0

[woeful raven]

this shit is particle soup

[dusky wave]

Path of Exile endgame

[woeful raven]

https://youtu.be/twhnwEXANMk

[unkempt pulsar]

this is the supposed great wuwa combat?

[woeful raven]

this is 1.x char

[unkempt pulsar]

i'm good with endfield thanks

[woeful raven]

you're not wired in yet

[grizzled saddle]

Actual hack n slash?

And is it heavy in gacha? I just wanna play story mode

[dusky wave]

I played wuwa for the exploration

story at the start was meh

but 1.3

was kino

[woeful raven]

you could just play the entire story without interacting too much with the gacha ig

the only reason to gacha the latest characters is if you want to play the challenge mode easily

as in you could clear it with early characters but it takes more skill

[grizzled saddle]

Nah fuck challenge mode. What about combat? Hold X to attack and occasionally use skills?

[dusky wave]

Thats all of them

[woeful raven]

well you can't hold X on this like in endfield

[unkempt pulsar]

with how little these games even let you do combat at an engaging level i don't care about it too much

oh you liked this boss fight? now use up all your sanity to challenge it again haha

[sturdy osprey]

is there a fix for shadows in endfield, they are bit blurry

[dusky wave]

which shadows

[woeful raven]

it's designed around counters and dodging

[sturdy osprey]

casted shadows

[dusky wave]

csm or screenspace

[woeful raven]

but like other gachas each char has an ultimate bar you want to fill

[dusky wave]

screenspace run at native res

[woeful raven]

and you can build optimal rotations for your character

[dusky wave]

csm are 2048 but character casting ones are 1024

[woeful raven]

skill is not shared by SP like in endfield

just gated by cooldown

[gloomy tulip]

Cooldown system is bad

Genshin clone

[sturdy osprey]

idk which one is it I see all shadows being jaggy

[grizzled saddle]

Agreed, but path tracing

[dusky wave]

Dont worry, the true action combat vidya game is coming out

Crimson Desert

[unkempt pulsar]

the more i hear about wuwa the more i'm convinced gacha players never play other games ever lmfao

combat effectively almost the same but people are up in arms about the difference

[gloomy tulip]

Wuwa for me seems like that game for people who don’t want to play Genshin

[strong vault]

open world amd sponsored slop time

[gloomy tulip]

Mod it in we have copium

[slender wharf]

I dont think most gacha players play for combat anyway. If it's serviceable that's already ok for most of the playerbase. And that shit has to be playable on mobile.

[gloomy tulip]

dispatch ray here we come

[dusky wave]

theres no way for us to increase shadow res, shader side.

You can use this https://github.com/EightySixK/Arknights-Endfield-FPS-Unlocker at your own warning

[woeful raven]

Story is like
1.0 - kinda bad and slog
1.1 - oh shits its actually decent
1.2 - it's joever
1.3 - we're so back
2.0 - it's kinda mid
2.1 - my mind blanked during this patch
2.2 - we're so back
2.3 - it's so joever
2.4 - chat are we back
2.5 - HOLY SHIT
2.6 - not holy shit but still good
2.7 - avengers endgame (it's decent but not amazing)
2.8 - ehh
3.0 - it's so joever (again)
3.1 - HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[unkempt pulsar]

sounds like a lot of slop to go through then

[woeful raven]

3.1 was legit so good

even if the rest was slop

[unkempt pulsar]

for some good chapters inbetween

[woeful raven]

you can just play 3.1

and it'll be worth it

[gloomy tulip]

Yes but you an skip

[dusky wave]

Coming from FFXIV player

[unkempt pulsar]

is the story so bad that you can just skip everything except for one chapter?

is there no coherence?

[dusky wave]

We play FFXIV despite the slog because the good parts are HOLY SHID THIS IS GOOD

[gloomy tulip]

My only motivation to slop through 1.0 to 2.6 ish content

[woeful raven]

if u read you'll notice

[slender wharf]

Wuwa just make previous characters disappear from story after one patch in the spotlight

[woeful raven]

there's a lot of

we're so back there

[strong vault]

Yeah I might try this.

[woeful raven]

top stories is definitely 3.1 followed by 2.5 and 2.2

and then the others

[sturdy osprey]

hmm shadows in cutscenes look bit worse than in game

maybe cuz zoomed

[woeful raven]

the ones that are truly slog where I would legit skip is 1.0, 1.2, 2.1

but even in 1.1 they started showing their chops for character animation and character expression

[gloomy tulip]

Am I crazy that I think shorekeeper is the epitome of bad writing in wuwa😭

[slender wharf]

1.2 and 2.1 didn't even have MSQ, they were just filler event patches

[woeful raven]

shorekeeper story wise isn't amazing

but it's a visual experience

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-meme-reaction-reaction-meme-ltg-gif-4897734485591340546

[gloomy tulip]

Also the other one

[woeful raven]

like holy SHIT

[gloomy tulip]

Started with Cath

[dusky wave]

I will not stand best wife shitposting

[gloomy tulip]

I forgot the name

[woeful raven]

I played through shorekeeper with ITM

and i was blown tf away

[gloomy tulip]

Same issues

[woeful raven]

imagine if someone plays through that

with reno dikks

[dusky wave]

Me

[woeful raven]

wuwa is so far the only game that has most of their story cutscenes well animated and has effort and directing put in AND in real time

the writing has its ups and down but we recently got the super banger 3.1

[gloomy tulip]

Oh yeah I definitely applaud that

The cutscene are very high quality

[slender wharf]

yeah it definitely has story presentation going for it. overall story and character writing quality though

[gloomy tulip]

You can never understand a Chinese writer

Their stories are always cooked with the most convoluted bs

[woeful raven]

honestly after playing 3.0 story my interest in wuwa dropped significantly

it was such a dogshit patch story wise to open for a new region

[slender wharf]

HSR story presentation really is abysmal, with way too much yap repeating the same thing over and over. And man are their NPC ugly.

[woeful raven]

i was going to 3.1 thinking the new char be another wish fulfillment rover maxglazesuperslop

but nah dawg

this shit redeemed itself

[gloomy tulip]

Their target audience are 12 year old with wealthy parents

[sturdy osprey]

no need to be wealthy

just dont buy food and clothes

[woeful raven]

its crazy how they can write without rover maxglazesuperslop

two of the best story patches were 3.1 and 2.5

[slender wharf]

Too bad it only happens like once a year lol

[woeful raven]

and the common thing is that you dont have much rover glaze there

the voice acting for 3.1 ate as well

fuck ok I guess I'll post another screenshot haul

[gloomy tulip]

Ngl I think wuwa has the story story issue as Genshin

Whoever appeared in the last chapter will be reduced to atom in the next

So I couldn’t really care abou any of them

[woeful raven]

yeah that's bad

[slender wharf]

Most egregious for me in Wuwa was the great Lupa disappearance

[woeful raven]

they're kinda coping with it

with an avengers moment every region end

but its just appeasement mostly

[gloomy tulip]

I hope in endfield perlica and Chen will stick with us till the end

[slender wharf]

Hope they don't end up like Yapyap and Chisa

[woeful raven]

chisa is definitely coming back

they've kinda been dropping hints here and there

[slender wharf]

mb I meant Chixia, comparing with 1.0 chara

[gloomy tulip]

It’s weird that I stick with games with your squad always by your side

[dusky wave]

Vanilla / previous slop / new slop

@woeful raven

for SSR

@idle notch also fixed ultrameme

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-food-finally-some-good-fucking-food-master-chef-gif-17833684

[idle notch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-ily-bro-i-love-you-so-much-touhou-gif-10293500147146351346

[dusky wave]

• Adjusted SSR to look less mirror
• Ultrameme users can now use UID / latency bar toggle
• Fixed bugs
• Fixed some water shaders like waterfall fog removal not being linked to alt fog toggle (stops it from either being too dark or too bright due to fog changes)

[dusky wave]

I am now off to use haxx tools

in order to speedrun my ban

in the hopes of further improving grafix slop

[strong vault]

GTAO res increase looks so good using haxx tool 😭

[dusky wave]

what not running fx at 540p does

[stable lava]

does gtao haxx fix the wobble

[dusky wave]

yes

[strong vault]

yes

[stable lava]

we're back

[dusky wave]

Just needs forced res increase for DoF and SSR now

then I can remove SSR denoiser

[strong vault]

Honestly if we can fix raster stuff I might stay in DX11 even if RT comes because of vulkan being so shit frenzy

[dusky wave]

and we're bac

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm why hasn’t that tool found ssr resolution yet

[median robin]

ultramemers rejoice

[dusky wave]

author did

but it borked the game

caused a black screen

[strong vault]

F

[dusky wave]

they found SSR ray marching sample setting for instance so instead of me having to do it in the shader you can just do it via the tool

but SSR needs res increase

sample amount can only do so much

[strong vault]

If I increase it through the tool your setting doesnt do anything

So I left them at default

[dusky wave]

because it spawns a new shader

[stable lava]

well, the tool supersedes reno denoiser no?

[dusky wave]

no

Since I still made adjustments to denoiser

• mip levels

All you're getting is more samples via the tool

[stable lava]

ic

hopefully they can solve the ssr native res issue

[dusky wave]

Using Ultra settings does decrease wobble by a bit for SSR compared to base game very high

[rustic echo]

it's not hard for them to do, they just don't in name of optimizaiton

[stable lava]

i mean haxx guy
hypergryph won't do shit

3 weeks game is out
still no mem leak fix

[gloomy tulip]

Yes but doing 1/4 of the work for an acceptable result is a good compromise

[dusky wave]

Theyre cooking up Wuling part 2

give them time

[strong vault]

Surely they will fix dof with Wuling part 2

[stable lava]

wuling 2 will have mem fix + pt + rr + dof

[dusky wave]

wuwa DoF with bokeh

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-blur-pixel-gif-17588996

Arknights DoF

[strong vault]

doomerWojak

[gloomy tulip]

If endfield doesn’t have 1000 dof permutations I could potentially do the stuff I’m trying with AO

[woeful raven]

[dusky wave]

I found 12 shaders in DX11

for DoF

Really just wanted to disable it and use Reshade DoF

[gloomy tulip]

In dx11 just bind your own srv uav to the pipeline, override the slots

[dusky wave]

and feed game data to reshade DoF?

Otis CinematicDoF has a loicense we can use

[slender wharf]

I can't believe this game doesn't even have default camera distance sliders. On top of a camera that resets every time you load.

[woeful raven]

yeah

no bokeh simulation at all

on top of the pixelation

[dusky wave]

Well

the shader has a 9 tap

for kernel

maybe they forgor to activate the bokeh texture

[woeful raven]

or its just unityslop

[dusky wave]

wait, cant I do this for SSR as well

Just increase SSR res without the haxx tools

[woeful raven]

unity must either have ass defaults or takes a lot of effort to use bokeh

since the feature is definitely there if u check the docs

every ue4slop onwards that i've seen just comes with working good looking bokeh

[dusky wave]

XCOM 2 has good ass bokeh

and thats UE3slop

Unitycels loosing to UEbros

[stable lava]

common UE W

[woeful raven]

and you have some people dislike UE for also being tuned and developed for film industry

[dusky wave]

Gaymers dont use your unc blurslop

they like CrispTM and SharpTM

they disable Dof, motion blur, film grain

[stable lava]

disabling dof is such a ??? move
"mhm yes i would like my cutscenes to look like shit"

[woeful raven]

ur playing a game not watching a movie broski

i dont want blur affecting my screen smh

[stable lava]

not if you're "playing" sonyslop

[gloomy tulip]

I mean you literally bind your created higher res tex when shader about to draw or dispatch

[dusky wave]

but this is only for pixel shaders?

compute will have more work needed no

DoF are all compute

I'll need to adjust texel size constants

and dispatch thread counts

[gloomy tulip]

you can use shader callback to dispatch with correct size then return false to cancel original dispatch

[dusky wave]

Ok let me try it

No way Yvonne milk

Where is the milk coming from though

[strong vault]

https://tenor.com/view/chugg-chugging-lmao-drink-your-bath-water-gif-11544290179043792735

[stable lava]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

[dusky wave]

wait wait wait

wtf

So regular camera DoF uses base res

but cutscene DoF is half res

So this game just ranomly decides I'll either use half res or not for DoF

I only checked one cutscene with tangtang and that was uses half res dof

but it could be that other scenes use full res

which would explain why sometimes its pixelated but not other times

[strong vault]

wut~1

[strong vault]

"Artistic vision"

[warm island]

• Ultrameme users can now use UID / latency bar toggle
  @dusky wave  THANK YOU !! 🙏

[fleet socket]

using this alongside reno was breaking the AO for me

i left everything but shadows at the game's defaults

[median robin]

Doesn't seem to work on my end still

[warm island]

@dusky wave Doesn't work 😭

[strong vault]

wdym by breaking? Its not applying at all or it looks bad

[fleet socket]

it applies but it's kinda borked. the "culling" is also weird and the AO stops working at the edges of the screen

[tame grove]

what's the point of having allat when all you use it for is hype moments and aura

[dusky wave]

Its so when RenoDX unclamps from SDR slop you see real time HDR

instead of having pre rendered sloppa thats baked to SDR with terrible banding and/or compression artefacts

[dusky wave]

texti is working though

Ultrameme users will just need to deal with the three bars

[sturdy osprey]

tbf if their anti cheat doesnt detect reshade addons, its unlikely it detects this

[dusky wave]

slight difference

we're just hooking reshade

the above hooks onto ACE

which may or may not get flagged

[sturdy osprey]

i suspect they only monitor

gameplay related memory

considering how nobodys been bonked for modifying the game

[dusky wave]

Just spend 1K

they wont ban you then

[sturdy osprey]

no

30k

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-meme-perlica-this-person-is-paypal-me-30000-gif-1098384423892647335

[sudden nest]

dunno if you already know but enabling the tech test look changes the game look permanently and you cant disable it

nvm im an idiot

i didnt see the changes in color grading

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

[dusky wave]

[median robin]

@warm island https://gamebanana.com/wips/98236 there is this which does hide everything on ultrawide as well, but brings forth other strange UI behavior

and requires xxmi obv

[dusky wave]

Had to back out the classic

[sudden nest]

what brain?

[scenic comet]

Sup? What's the correct way to set-up RenoDX for non-HDR monitor? Mostly brightness/exposure/stuff like that.
Ty in advance.

[fleet socket]

brain takes too much energy that should instead be going into the factory

[fleet socket]

scrgb and set the brightness sliders to 80/80/80

[sudden nest]

what factory

I only trade goods

[idle notch]

i forgor to tell
but in the previous version (or maybe version before previous version)

my fps was dying in dijiang
even in wuling main city my laptop is pretty chill and i get consistent 110 or some fps
but in dijiang it dipped into 70s 💀 and the processor temps went all the way up to 98

[dusky wave]

set Encoding to scRGB (at the bottom of the Reno menu)

then set peak brightness, game brightness and UI brightness all to 80

restart game

[dusky wave]

I read this and still missed it

then continued to type my msg out anyways

[dusky wave]

did you test toggling SSR toggle on/off

[fleet socket]

do you think adding an explicit SDR preset makes sense by default?

that way people would stop asking

[dusky wave]

not really

Older games with atrocious clipping sure

which is why Jon added explicit SDR since Reno improves SDR look

[idle notch]

Yea if i remember
Not sure though I was in a hurry ⚰️

[dusky wave]

I added 256 samples for ray marching over vanilla SSR's 32

thats the only thing I could see borking your perf

[idle notch]

yea i remember that
but its an i9 though 😭

[dusky wave]

[idle notch]

lemme try again one min

[dusky wave]

least borked cancertop setup be like

[fleet socket]

about this, i assume all the GTAO changes here are already being handled by your addon?

so it's basically pointless other than higher shadow res?

[strong vault]

Not GTAORes

[dusky wave]

I am not doing anything with GTAO

Miru has his own custom AO solution for VK

I just added an on/off slider + reshade bypass

[fleet socket]

ah, got it

[dusky wave]

Me and Spiwar cope atm using custom modded MXAO with upscaling support

[fleet socket]

i assume that's the one you can't distribute with modifications due to licensing?

[dusky wave]

full res GTAO via the above tool is good though

stops wobble wobble and shimmering

issue is that they use some different cbuffer values for Valley IV

which means it barely applies to scenes

meanwhile Wuling goes overboard with the AO

[fleet socket]

lol

i guess i'll just use that injector and get full res GTAO then

[dusky wave]

yes

[fleet socket]

man this game's tech is so full of cope. such a shame since it's pretty good looking otherwise

kill mobile

[dusky wave]

per their reports

mobileslop is like 20%

PC is majority

[fleet socket]

you HAVE to completely nuke your game for 20% of users

[dusky wave]

well I am also seeing fellas on a GTX 980 playing

720p GTAO is what you get

alongside schrodingers 720p pixelated DoF

[fleet socket]

i don't think it's a bad thing that the game can scale down so much - it's pretty cool if anything. the issue is that for some reason they made it the baseline that you can't fucking change

that's what pisses me off

well i guess it's good PR that someone with a shitty PC from 5 years ago can feel good about having everything on high, though!

[dusky wave]

Yep, game needs better scalability for higher end systems is all. They are probably conservative since gamers luv to brag about how a game runs at 5000FPS

[safe swallow]

5 years ago is 3090

[fleet socket]

sorry, should've said a decade ago

[safe swallow]

Time sure flies

[fleet socket]

i do hope they add more scalibility for the high end eventually. though it's very likely only we care about it and i dont see a chinese company listening to a minority of western fans lol

[dusky wave]

What I can do now is look into improving base GTAO since its no longer hamstrung by 720p g-buffer with wobble wobble

Similar to what Miru was working on originally way back

hardcode cbuffers so valley and wuling use the same settings

maybe get it to also apply onto grass/foliage

[fleet socket]

i was having issues with the injector mod earlier where it was fucking up with the AO quite badly fwiw. though i didn't really debug it or anything

and im at work rn so i can't test

[dusky wave]

was it flipping depth or?

[stable lava]

if they really want that, they should just gatekeep the good settings behind a launch arg like Snowdrop games ngl

[fleet socket]

now that's beyond my knowledge to really answer lol. it felt like a culling issue, every time i moved, the AO would stop working at the edges of the screen

[idle notch]

you know what

i understand it now

[fleet socket]

i only tested it with reno so i assumed it was some sort of incompatibility between the two. i should've tested it on its own too

[idle notch]

its the goddamn Preset L with DLAA

[stable lava]

pretty standard for screencope solutions

[fleet socket]

it was way more jarring than what i'm used to

[stable lava]

reno shadows used to do that until one of the last updates

looked like some sort of vignetting effect on the shadows

[fleet socket]

also i have no idea why ive been saying AO... it's the shadows lol

[strong vault]

maybe contact shadows then?

since you mentioned stopped working at edges of screen

[fleet socket]

very possible. the ini file had no explanations about the shadow cvars, so i only tweaked these two: CSMShadowRes and CharacterShadowRes

[strong vault]

"Contact shadows no longer have a edge fade to them and apply to the whole g-buffer"

Forge fixed contact shadows in one of the patches

Probably it conflicts with this

[fleet socket]

makes sense. i'll try playing with it once i'm home in 7 hours

[dusky wave]

DLAA Preset Loser nukes perf

[dusky wave]

CSM stands for (cascade shadow maps) this is not screenspace shadows which I have modified

CSM takes a large shadow texture referred to as a map

And applies it to the scene

Characters shadows are separate to both CSM and contact screenspace shadows

By default the game uses an edge fade on the g-buffer for contact screenspace shadows. It's not that noticeable but when you use my shadow modification which makes it more pronounced, you see the edge fade straight away.

Which is why I figured out what it was and removes it

[fleet socket]

hmmm

[strong vault]

1.5x Res GTAO
1440p Quality
Wuling

[delicate pewter]

tried recording a video today using nvidia shadow and while it did do HDR the colours are super washed, any advice?

[strong vault]

I used OBS. Shadowplay sometimes records correctly something doesnt its just annoying so I stopped using it

[delicate pewter]

with the obs addon?

trying to fix the colourspace now on shutter... have to go back to sdr and back to hdr, lmao, if it work...