Unreal Engine

[charred solstice]

that's not frame pacing issue, that's culling in camera view panning

can't be fixed as far as I know, but maybe there's a cvar that works on it

[tired sparrow]

check another way

[west canopy]

it's not that bad and overall pretty decent for PT+FG, but i just prefer the smoothness without all of this

[charred solstice]

it's something with nanite lagging behind

[west canopy]

well my TV says its on

[charred solstice]

you can test it like near a bright light like a door/lamp

then pan camera really quickly

you'll see the loading lag behind camera

[tired sparrow]

well he's talking about vrr flicker

from oled

visible on dark areas of the screen

[charred solstice]

no it's not vrr flicker

it's very minor, but some people have more senitive eyes then other

[tired sparrow]

enabled is different from if it's actually engaged with the game window

[charred solstice]

this game has a lot of bright colors and flashing so it's more harsh

[tired sparrow]

i mean only he would know that

[charred solstice]

it's likely camera culling, is just not fast enough for quick camera panning in certain places

[tired sparrow]

the culling issue doesn't look anything like vrr flicker

[charred solstice]

you see the artifact being loaded and unloaded too slow

it's not flicker, it's bright colors being loaded/unloaded too slow

so you see a frame of lag

from those highlights

[tired sparrow]

your reading comprehension needs work

ESL i presume

[charred solstice]

sure

and i'm saying, it's a similar symtom but different reason

whatever~

[tired sparrow]

it's not similar because vrr flicker looks completely different from the culling issue

you are saying he doesn't know the difference

but you have not seen his screen and he has not described the flickering

[west canopy]

I see flicker in the menus and loading screens guys

the camera stuff feels odd when driving and frametimes are jittery

[tired sparrow]

loading screns yeah

that's vrr flicker

[west canopy]

but even with FG/PT off driving still isn't completely smooth anyway, i just tested. FG makes it only slightly worse

[tired sparrow]

yeah hm i suppose the next thing i would try is a framerate cap with SpecialK

[west canopy]

yeah would probably be worth trying

SK framecap is better than other methods?

[tired sparrow]

driving isn't going to be completely smooth anyways

UE open world moment

it's smooth for me probably because i'm running at like 200fps with FG and 9800X3D

[tired sparrow]

yes

[charred solstice]

I am testing a few cvars that seems to help, so maybe it'll work out. have to test more areas for hitches and driving

but i'm on a 50x series card, which naturally has better frame pacing in FG

[tired sparrow]

if you're using optiscaler on top of specialK and reshade though that's a bit of a mess

i can't say if that will work without issues

to be honest i don't think anybody is completely eliminating all stutter in this game running uncapped

[west canopy]

could be something with the camera. i noticed its much worse in first person sometimes

my frames were fine but camera is what makes it feel wobbly

[bleak nest]

This best build for Mixtape rn?

SDR / HDR

all dem deeeeeeetailz.

[tired sparrow]

by the way the camera hitches badly with a controller for me so idk if you were using controller

my fps is a bit lower because recording but i don't get any major spikes

i will get small hitches occasionally but it's not like constantly

i need a faster car >.>

[sullen solar]

I don't know if B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS is actually needed, but it makes the cutscenes and main menu look way off. This is how the main menu should look

[bleak nest]

Oh

[bleak nest]

I didn’t see it looking like that.

It didn’t look like that in SDR for me either.

Like without mod.

I’ll double check.

Thanks for the heads up.

[bleak nest]

Default was this.

[sullen solar]

SDR without mod / RenoDX Default / RenoDX B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS Off

[bleak nest]

Is that SDR with Windows in SDR mode, too?

SDR without Mod / RenoDX Default

Shieeeeeeeet, you right. Thanks for shout out, @sullen solar

What are the other settings you have, @sullen solar?

With mod applied and the settings above ^

[sullen solar]

Turning off B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS upgrade was the only thing I changed, not sure if it causes other issues though otherwise idk why it's on by default for this game

[bleak nest]

@untold wadi any idea why B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS was on by default? I know you and KoKluz were discussing about the UNORM one, but that seems off by default anyway.

How far into the game are you, @sullen solar?

I got that kissing scene and closed it to adjust sliders.

[sullen solar]

A few chapters after that, but I was actually using the generic UE reno instead of the extended one because I was crashing with extended

And someone said that generic wasn't crashing, but I still got crashes with ue generic so I just switched back to extended now and noticed it looked off

[bleak nest]

This was a 'cutscene', but the entire game really is one ..

I'm assuming this looks wrong to you?

Compared to the slider set to off that you played.

If you remember how it looked, of course*

[bleak nest]

Ahhh, okay.

I haven't had a crash, yet. Is it certain points in the game or randomly?

[sullen solar]

Usually at the end of chapters, but it isn't consistent. I crashed twice at the end of the first chapter and it didn't save, so I had to replay it twice

[sullen solar]

This is with the slider set to off

Looks the same, maybe it's only the main menu and first cutscene that look wrong

[bleak nest]

Hopefully, yeah.

I have more captures if you have similar to those scenes available prior to that, and we can compare if you want.

But seems like we're good with it off anyway, unless Ritsu or KoKlusz or someone reports otherwise.

[dusty girder]

the game needs a custom aspect ratio added to the mod for the letterboxed scenes

takes 45 seconds, I dont have the game installed; and idk if ritsu ever uploaded the addon with it

he plans on PRing all the game stuff when its fixed

nvm he PRd it yesterday

and never told me

let me build it real fast

@bleak nest can you send me reshade.log please

ritsu only used the gaypass exe

@sullen solar reshade.log from mixtape please

[dusty girder]

ty

Mixtape

here is the mod with ritsu's letterbox fix; also supports steam release and other platforms

[bleak nest]

Do I wanna close game and apply this

[dusty girder]

no

[bleak nest]

Ok

[dusty girder]

I forgot to merge spiwar's latest NTE (gahca game) fix into the deleted addon

[bleak nest]

Sounds like a feature, not a bug then.

No gacha support!

[dusty girder]

did it fix the letterboxing?

[bleak nest]

I don't even know what issue was in the letterboxing?

[dusty girder]

maybe ritsu's build had the letterbox fix

[bleak nest]

Pre and post build of yours.

What was broken with letterboxing? idk.

[sullen solar]

#1411800884303626311 message

I think this build already had it

[dusty girder]

08:54:58:919 [63420] | INFO | [RenoDX] Applied patches for Mixtape-WinGDK-Shipping.exe (Mixtape). ok yea it did

[bleak nest]

Yeah, that's the one I was using.

kk

[dusty girder]

nothing should've changed visiually

[bleak nest]

Yeah, idek what was broken.

[dusty girder]

nothing was, ritsu's addon fixed it

mine just added support for steam/epic/etc

I didnt know he added the letterbox fix to thet addon

if you only had upgrades and no "custom addon", letterbox scenes would be clamped to sdr

[sullen solar]

so is the B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS upgrade not needed?

[dusty girder]

no

just install the addon

[bleak nest]

bruh

that's waht I'm saying

idk what his addon fixed it

[dusty girder]

well its all merged now

so it doesnt matter

[bleak nest]

Gotcha

[dusty girder]

I didnt know if he added the letterbox fix to the discord addon

or if it was github only, waiting for me to merge it

I thought the discord addon was only default settings

since he talked about broken letterboxes the other day

[charred solstice]

is it possible to 2.4 gamma ue extended, or should we just use post process tone mapping?

[dusty girder]

2.4 gamma is just per ch contrast; just use the built in contrast slider

its better

[broken cave]

Mixtape still crashing with RenoDX though?

[bleak nest]

I did a 2hrs long session, didn't crash for me.

[broken cave]

I had a consistent crash on track 4

[bleak nest]

Yeah, I'm about halfway done with the game, no crash.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1502855056998011071/1502913260838715422/image.png?ex=6a01708c&is=6a001f0c&hm=dac2a590ac667722055003423d6fc24633b6465f727ac598b69c071367d841b1&

I didn't create that engine.ini file, btw.

Not sure if that's causing crashes or what.

[thick belfry]

Don't jinx it
I had a couple of crashes on GP, then bought the game on Steam, first half was perfect, then the closer to the end the more often the game crashed, to the point I had to disable reno entirely to be able to finish it

[bleak nest]

[broken cave]

Just tried, crashed even sooner than before

[peak galleon]

was that extended or normal

[thick belfry]

Both

[peak galleon]

does it still crash with this then

[half mortar]

Just finished Mixtape. Crashes seemed to sometimes occur when pausing the game. Either when in the pause menu, or resuming game.
So I just stopped pausing 😄

[untold wadi]

Disabled it in the merged version but forgot to post it

[crude tiger]

Can this be used for Hogwarts Legacy?

[bleak nest]

Yesn't.

It works for UE, but that game had some issues reported. So, you can try.

[crude tiger]

Love it haha

[stone bear]

Are the latest NTE changed merged to master repo already?

[mild thicket]

weird ass camera bug im getting in NTE, it's like my character goes further away than normal then camera snaps back to correct placement, very noticeable while driving a car

anyone notice it?

[twin hazel]

So what's the latest? Do I need this #1411800884303626311 message or is the default install available through RHI today all fine?

[dusty girder]

its merged now, so you can just use the installer

[white coral]

im trying to get the ue addon to work for stellar blade but it keeps crashing on startup, any advice?

[supple parcel]

soooo is Reno for Returnal broken or something ?

[dusty girder]

use extended

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

just drop it in, make sure native hdr is on; and enjoy

[white coral]

So what’s the difference between extended and non extended versions?

[dusty girder]

"its better"

[west canopy]

The non extended is not extended

[supple parcel]

Thanks

[stone bear]

Was this ever fixed?
Have the same issue

[west canopy]

does this work - should i set this as global?

[dusty girder]

global overrides aer bad

dont be lazy, do them per-game

sometimes whats safe in 99% of games

might break 1 game

and you'll spend 3 hours

trying to figure out what broke it

because you long forgot about the global override

[tired sparrow]

^

[west canopy]

SSR/Lumen/RT/PT

I find it a blessing that Lumen usually brings the most balanced visibility in the dark, can say RT/PT look more realistic (specially PT is usually much darker)

while it's fun to experiment with PT, it's questionable if you really want some of the scenes this dark for general gameplay, Lumen holds up surprisingly well, it's just it's reflections that are really bad

is PT very very cool looking here? yes, but if I want to focus on playing the game I like the lumen look the most, plus it's the fastest/smoothest so there really is no question, at least for my system

[glossy cipher]

it worked instantly for me, without having to set up anything, did you download this version?
https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-unrealengine.addon64

[dusty girder]

its not just the mod

you need to follow the guide

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/557

@autumn musk

works just fine with UE Extended and latest reshade

there is a bug whre it seems clamped to ~500 nits; probably a post fx shader that needs fixing

nvm just needs B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS upgrades to output size

I thought those where automatically set, I'll add them to the defaults later

ui brightness/game brightness is griefed; both need to be the same value

guess whoever fixed the custom shaders didnt properly invert and encode

its the glaucoma filter; if p3r fix disables it that works too

[coarse axle]

Vanilla / Modified

Unreal volumetrics can now be fixed thanks to custom texture bindings and reworked code

1. UE5 uses bilinear filtering for nearly all volumetric shaders / replaced it to use Catmull Rom Tricubic filtering instead

2. Replaced IGN with IS-FAST for stochastic sampling

[covert python]

you planning on opening a pr on the ue repo?

might as well I think

[coarse axle]

uhh I dont think we can include this to work from the get go

Laz wants to do a separate UE addon that just handles graphics

that works alongside existing UE addons

my only issue is that there might be some conflicts with cbuffers

but the goal atm is since 95% of UE games use the same code

we can implement the same fixes

across all games

ohh you mean submitting a pr directly to UE

[dusty girder]

seperate addon is the way to go

not everybody might want the fixs

[coarse axle]

cant wait to be featured in Kevins vid

[covert python]

yeah lol
if 95% of UE games have the same issue then might as well lmao

[coarse axle]

get Pumbo to be the middle man

Get him to tweet this

Need a few more examples

and from different games

[covert python]

^ @vocal nova

[dusty girder]

oh unreal engine itself

not the unreal engine mod

yea do that

[dusk orchid]

based on the settings from your screenshot youre using the SDR to HDR upgrade path yeah? i always thought (and i could be super wrong) that the preferred way for UE-Ext was to enable the native HDR path with the engine.ini, then have upgrade path off in the add-on. thats what ive been doing so far and no crashes either - just absolutely horrendous performance :/ (which, based on other peeps comments, seems to just be the game and not be Reshade related)

[vocal nova]

I've already done this.

[coarse axle]

[vocal nova]

Just need to properly reconstruct the code from the decompiled one

[bleak nest]

I don’t even notice any performance issues

Because the game runs in a slideshow anyway.

And I did this neat trick that helped with performance

||never enabled the FPS counter||

And just laid on couch and played.

Like this.

[keen ermine]

we need PT to fix basic shadows in 2026🫃

[coarse axle]

[quiet skiff]

good shit pookie

[dusk orchid]

lmao - true

[dusk orchid]

tbf that is usually my starting point, i only chucked it on to have a look bc input latency was feeling crazy inconsistent, which made sense once i saw the FPS going from like 100+ to 40

:/

[placid siren]

you don't have to use root signature constants, you can bind CBVs as well. so you can mix addons technically, just a different slot+space (though doesn't technically matter unless you both are overriding the same shader)

[bleak nest]

I jinxed it.

[north fjord]

Try increasing page size, it worked for me in stellar blade.

To use perceptual film grain, do I need to enable film grain in game settings ?

[tame raft]

you're referring to this, right? #1474481327691665553

[visual ice]

https://github.com/AlteriaX/NTE-Configs

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-peak-cinema-absolute-cinema-gif-2419960068189387292

[mild thicket]

any test done with this

[charred solstice]

bad new is...NTE is not "true" PT...the reason being, RestirPT does not work with lumen and it axes all the reflections...

but this is what "real" PT NTE somewhat should be like

my fps...

[vale rampart]

What is nte

[shell igloo]

new gachaslop

[vale rampart]

Ok I sleep

[shell igloo]

restirpt has never been used in a game anyway
restirgi+di sure, but not pt

[vale rampart]

Does the newest version of this plugin work nicely with Mixtape?

[graceful elbow]

Is there no way to fix flickering squares on waves in NTE with RenoDX installed? Its not because of FG #1411800884303626311 message

I dont have it to this extend, but the longer i stare at the waves the more squares are noticable

[mild thicket]

what fps

[tepid ridge]

Interesting

[graceful elbow]

after standing here for a bit it has become even more visible

[visual ice]

Not home yet so can't test but I use this persons configs for Wuthering Waves and it works as expected. Obviously it will impact your performance and you can see in the engine.ini file every value that's been changed

Can tweak it further yourself if you want to

[charred solstice]

correct, it's a developer plaything, but the key issue for this mode is right now, the inability to access lumen's reflection, which is what NTE is using, now that we've finally dumped the cvar list

so "Full Raytracing" is in fact amply named...for once the terminology...actually does make sense

though it absolutely is using the full nvidia Restir pipeline

[devout grove]

Would be interesting to get something working out of those cvars, brandy config doesn't seem to make any meaningful changes and nothing for ray tracing

Restir pt is pretty cutting edge Nvidia only just talked about it in their latest paper

[charred solstice]

so i correct myself...I got reflections back...without lumens

and...wow...

[stone bear]

smh

But this game is really bad in terms of UX lol

Played racing yesterday, the 'rainy' weather was sunny

and adaptive triggers on my DualSense randomly turned on or off

[visual ice]

https://tenor.com/view/an-emoji-disintegrating-in-pain-gif-22507163

Hopefully one day

[stone bear]

Oh and also tried DLSS Enabler 4, it doesn't seem to work well here as the whole screen flickers every few seconds

[visual ice]

But yeah that sounds like typical hotta jank. Tower of fantasy was even worse

[mild thicket]

game does need some polish

UI is consistently unrensponsive and there's frequent bugs

fishing doesn't work if you have FG on

[stone bear]

I remember it

that's why I dropped that game too

It's better than TOF, but still the jank is extreme in here

[visual ice]

[stone bear]

I don't think anyone really played that game with a controller

as the UX here is so bad too

what do you mean you change the tabs on the character screen with the d-pad, and change the character with the stick

[visual ice]

Tbh I only use the controller for combat and driving

Rest isn't really usable with it

But that's most gacha games

[stone bear]

ZZZ is perfect with a controller tbh

10/10 implementation

[visual ice]

Actually yeah you are right that game feels amazing with a controller

[stone bear]

But HSR had some jank as well, not anywhere near the level of NTE but it wasn't intuitive

[stone bear]

They even use all the DualSense features

Fishing has adaptive triggers

Shooting in the Trigger event months ago had them too

Endfield has great implementation as well

sad the game is just Satisfactory Anime™

[visual ice]

Don't have a dualsense but that sounds really neat

And yeah endfield is pretty decent when it comes to using a controller too

[west canopy]

This wasn't because of FG it's always there no matter what I do

[west canopy]

I find it distracting during driving. I turned that shit off. I like it in some games but not here. And the way the game controls is you kinda want back paddles for jumping, or you have to run a weird scheme. Steam controller or any controller with paddles is better here imho

Oh especially steam controller would be perfect for this because I have to reach for my mouse for half of the UI stuff anyway because it's so horribly bad to do it on gamepad (managing and upgrading you console stuff is a nightmare, as are many other menus like gifting and coffee games)

If anyone is playing this on a console stuck to gamepad only I feel really bad for them because the implementation is at trolling level

[hazy torrent]

Steam input helps with that, set a modifier to have right stick be mouse

Mostly just a UI toggle, slow, but doesnt troll you like the game does

[west canopy]

for some reason, the only situation where full RT really makes a difference in this game seems to be during rainy weather

there's just so much more going on with the lighting

hmm yeah it's really just the extra shadows that do it, it seems 🤔

also get the same improved shadows with half RT, but it's the lighting (in cloudy weather and some interiors) that also changes with PT that i like

[autumn musk]

Oh I should probably do a clean reshade install

[bleak nest]

Yesn't.

Works fine in the sense that HDR works.

But crashes are there.

[autumn musk]

Or maybe it’s conflicting with lyalls mod

[bleak nest]

What did you increase it to?

[north fjord]

100gb

But only 8k resolution crashed before increasing page size

[bleak nest]

Mine is defaulted for now.

[north fjord]

With 64gb ram, it should not have crashed for me, so page file did something there.

Still crash for me, if I use dlaa and ultra Plus ssgi.

Although fps are half with ssgi

[bleak nest]

Gotcha

Might try raising it.

[glossy cipher]

I have yet to see that one work, if would not be too much trouble, do you have a difference shot or something with on/off?

[deep fox]

hello guys is there a way to fix flickering when using FSR Frame gen? I have seen the dlssfg fix but I dont know if there is a fix for AMD

[north fjord]

if you mean ssgi, there are comparison screenshots in ultra place discord

[glossy cipher]

thx, though I had to join that discord first..
Yeah looks okayish, nothing I'll cry about not using

[north fjord]

its very subjective, i would have used it, if i can get target fps

[glossy cipher]

time for the 6090

[mild thicket]

10000$

[charred solstice]

some people see it like that, and the reality is, it depends on your monitor settings. also it's also because it's not evaluating skylight, and instead using lumen to sample it, so it's...basically lumen in daylight with better reflections

you'll see a huge difference in specular though

now that's something I know how to change now hehehe...but fps...hurts

[west canopy]

wdym by specular?

[charred solstice]

light bounces on relfective surfaces

or tranlucent surfaces, etc

those minute details maybe blind to those on certain monitor or color setups

you only see fancy reflections but can't pick out the reflective details

at first you see that are extremely similar

but then detail changes

this is what happens if I add skylight to the RT

for umm i believe some interesting reason, they choose to exclude a lot of lights

cause it was baaaaaad

[dusk orchid]

working well for me so far but maybs im not too far in - seems everyone is reporting crashes sooner or later

[pliant belfry]

luts for Sprawl (in anticipation for the sequel) https://www.gog.com/en/game/sprawl

[west canopy]

Ok so this is caused by DLSS

Is this a DLSS+Reno reaction or is it in base game as well?

Any kind does it, even dlaa

[graceful elbow]

Not in base game

[west canopy]

so it's a reno problem?

[charred solstice]

what is with those lame NTE engine.ini configs?

in terms of NTE and dlss...umm yes the cvars show NTE has done a lot of custom settings on streamline. It's also why it looks so good on FG, even if the old streamlives drivers can be a bit ehhh.

I don't see anything that can mess with ue-extend though

[vital knoll]

i think this was asked already but is there a way to add AutoHDR for video cutscenes in NTE?

[charred solstice]

I believe that needs to be coded per game, according to marat, so, it would have to turn into a standalone mod.

[vital knoll]

is that significantly easier vs than modding RenoDX for games or they're just the same?
also can it be done by non-coder?

[charred solstice]

according to @coarse axle 's codes, it's just finding the video as a shader pass, and then slapping autohdr on it, then present it in renodx with some user visible settings if thorough.

so the it depends if the game is nice enough to be consistent in exposing that shader in an easy digestable format, and yea pretty much slop auto hr template on top.

[true raft]

Directive 8020 shaders

[solar prairie]

How's Directive's native HDR and PT performance lookin?

[true raft]

i have a 5090 so not super helpful but I was getting 100-120 in the first scene with with dlss quality and fg X2

hdr looked good to me but i usually cant tell until i compare with reno

[solar prairie]

Seems like Requiem PT perf

maybe a bit heavier

[true raft]

there is a lot of boiling like leons plant adventure in requiem

hoping the ultra+ guys can iron it out a bit at least

[covert python]

really need to finish sprawl

so good

[atomic oak]

Actually to give you an answer, the performance is 1080p @55fps @52ms latency with PT on RTX5090 without framegen and terrible hdr and graphics, PT does not even work correctly 🤣

Thats @ ingame HDR max peak brightness. The sliders make no sense. Path tracing looks crazy bad, for example is ambient occlusion completely MIA

it also looks like fake lights do exist in the path tracing render pipeline still means you get reflections from point lights which are not in the scene.

[solar prairie]

Ty just checked it

HDR is atrocious

Reno UE clips at 203 w/ every upgrade checked and Extended doesn't override the game's settings values

[vivid rune]

So Reno mod for now does nothing to improve Directive 8020?

[glossy cipher]

looks like it needs a bit more effort with the reno devkit... maybe even a lot of effort

[shell igloo]

because the lutbuilder hasn't been added to the mod yet

moistman dumped it above

[vivid rune]

Can someone tag me when the lut is added so i try the mod by myself?

[glossy cipher]

oh I thought that was already the update, yeah then that is the starting point xD

[glossy cipher]

if I'm still online then I will hit ya up

[vivid rune]

Thanks so much

[indigo plank]

were there any other (including not-new) lutbuilders in the dump?

[solar prairie]

Call of the Elder Gods. Works with Reno UE, clips at game brightness with Extended.

[true raft]

not that i saw

first time dumping them though

I can run again if you need just lmk

[vital knoll]

@coarse axle do you happen to have a guide on how to slap slop AutoHDR for videos?

[coarse axle]

The the most easy thing you can do

you just need the shader responsible for handling video

if there isnt one then uhh

you'll need to do something else

Endfield as an example

// ---- Created with 3Dmigoto v1.3.16 on Wed Jan 21 20:06:28 2026
#include "../common.hlsl"

Texture2D<float4> t2 : register(t2);

Texture2D<float4> t1 : register(t1);

Texture2D<float4> t0 : register(t0);

SamplerState s2_s : register(s2);

SamplerState s1_s : register(s1);

SamplerState s0_s : register(s0);

cbuffer cb0 : register(b0)
{
float4 cb0[8];
}

// 3Dmigoto declarations
#define cmp -

void main(
float4 v0 : SV_Position0,
float2 v1 : TEXCOORD0,
float2 w1 : TEXCOORD1,
float4 v2 : TEXCOORD2,
out float4 o0 : SV_Target0)
{
float4 r0;
uint4 bitmask, uiDest;
float4 fDest;

r0.x = t0.Sample(s0_s, v1.xy).w;
r0.y = t1.Sample(s1_s, w1.xy).w;
r0.z = t2.Sample(s2_s, w1.xy).w;
r0.xyz = float3(-0.0627499968,-0.50195998,-0.50195998) + r0.xyz;
float3 rgb;
rgb.x = dot(float2(1.16437995,1.59603), r0.xz);
rgb.y = dot(float3(1.16437995,-0.391759992,-0.812969983), r0.xyz);
rgb.z = dot(float2(1.16437995,2.01723003), r0.xy);

rgb = AutoHDRVideo(rgb);

o0.x = rgb.x;
o0.y = rgb.y;
o0.z = rgb.z;
o0.w = -cb0[7].x + 1;
return;
}

rgb = AutoHDRVideo(rgb); is the AutoHDR

thats it

static inline float3 AutoHDRVideo(float3 sdr_video) {
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f || RENODX_TONE_MAP_HDR_VIDEO == 0.f) {
return sdr_video;
}
renodx::draw::Config config = renodx::draw::BuildConfig();
config.peak_white_nits = RENODX_VIDEO_NITS;

float3 hdr_video = renodx::draw::UpscaleVideoPass(saturate(sdr_video), config);
hdr_video = renodx::color::srgb::DecodeSafe(hdr_video);
hdr_video = renodx::draw::RenderIntermediatePass(hdr_video);
return hdr_video = max(0, hdr_video); // bt709 clamp ;
}

And this is what AutoHDRVideo calls

[vital knoll]

I'll see what i can do, i don't even know how to use yet the coding app responsible for creating the addon but the YT video is helpful

[dusty girder]

@tulip kayak

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/commit/9aebacfa789d863954aadb924c6b8e7def2bc9e2

I fixed washed out UIs at a plugin level, so please test the waifu game with the latest build I've attached

you might need to delete the custom ui shader from NTE

[gritty sparrow]

This is genuinely amazing work. I abhor the way the engine handles volumetric by default and this is something that really encourages immersion.

How far are we away from giving it a test run? Glad E33 was the comparison. That beautiful game is marred by technical landmines.

[dusty girder]

@west canopy @charred solstice can you try that build, and see if the UI fix is still needed

if the UI looks worse, that means spiwar's ui fix might not be needed

ideally menus too, like opening the character or car menu

[west canopy]

I'm on it

SALUTE

[tulip kayak]

Well

Report back

[dusty girder]

the ui fix is still in that build, so if it looks broken; that meansit can be removed

along with the universal ui fix

[west canopy]

oh you gotta be kidding me

noooo my dailies

[dusty girder]

do they give you

apology gems

for every hour of maint?

[mild thicket]

they gave 5 whole pulls and 300k fons (ingame currency)

for previous maint afaik?

[dusty girder]

thats pretty nice

[tulip kayak]

For some reason the game is still installed

On my computer

Ill check it out later

[dusty girder]

you're going to have to, because if this conflicts; you'll prolly need to delete the ui shaders you pq encoded

or just rename them from hlsl to hlsl_archive

so they dont build, but stay on the repo for fun

[tulip kayak]

Ill just nuke it

[dusty girder]

?

dont nuke the folder

there is still the other lutbuilder

also reticle

needs testing

might need no changes

gotta check

[tulip kayak]

I mean nuke the shader

Lol

[dusty girder]

rename it to hlsl_ for fun, doesnt hurt

[tulip kayak]

whoops

forgot build date

@dusty girder no change needed

[dusty girder]

nothing broke

nice

[tulip kayak]

im going back to hibernation

[dusty girder]

what about the other stuff

like retical

and etc that you fixed

[tulip kayak]

ya

slutbuilders are the same

[vivid rune]

Does this version have the directive 8020 fix?

[dusty girder]

gotta add these

[tulip kayak]

trash generation gay reconstruction

all working

[dusty girder]

@true raft did any other lutbuilders decompile (old)

actually directige 8020 looks custom

[tulip kayak]

mm forgot how nice this game looked

[dusty girder]

doesnt use ue-filmic

[tulip kayak]

too bad i dont have time for this

before I uninstall this shit i'll leave something for the nte jerkers

I'll see if I can patch in hide UID using shader only

[dusty girder]

directive is using an arri lut

and the tonemapping is inside of it

[tulip kayak]

@coarse axle they have a thing where the edge of the moon is in hdr

[coarse axle]

amtospheric scattering?

wdym edge

ozone layer

[coarse axle]

boootiful

[dusty girder]

that looks nice

[coarse axle]

Doesnt only apply to E33. Any UE5 games will be able to use similar improvements since these are all base UE issues (albeit someone will still have to modify shaders per game)

Also have DoF improvements / fixes. Volumetrics, shadows, GI, noise reduction ect. Issue is that due to how Reno works we havent figured out a way of how to have two addons running. Easiest solution is to just have one addon with both HDR and then rendering options

Two reno addons can work when its just shader changes and they dont conflict

but something with the way how custom texture bindings and custom shader dispatching works

it breaks one or the other

[dusty girder]

actually 8020 can prolly work, they still use ue-filmic

they just have an arri lut that runs before blue correct, as an extra tier of grading

also the arri lut doesnt always run; just need to treat the output of it as untonemapped_ap1

-> untonemapped_ap1

-> arri lut

-> blue correct pre

-> filmic

-> etc

the rest of the lutbuilder is the same

I wonder if its AGX

but they wouldnt do agx + ue filmic

[gritty sparrow]

Right. iirc it’s because shader replacement is local, but binding/dispatch overrides are global.

They need to be unified as adjacent layers in the same pipeline so the engine doesn’t get confused about which owns the contract like it does when they are separate.

Fighting that right now in a time-synthesis project via dx11

[west canopy]

the only game that doesn't literally ROB you in broad daylight if you missed a login on your monthly sub for daily gems is Mongril Stardive, the only fair gacha that really respects you as a customer, they send you your shit in the mail IT CANNOT GET DELETED WHICH SHOULD BE THE ONLY WAY, YOU BOUGHT IT + if you miss a daily you can do them later they stack up to multiple days in a row

but all other gacha slops literally ROB you of your stuff - even stuff you paid for, if you miss a login

apology gems for incovenience is not enough

it's not just dailies in this game, NTE has multiple progression systems that can set you back missing a day more than just a couple of gems

and it matters. why do they need to have maintance to close the game for alost half a day? for a single player game? that locks you out of your progression and rewards if you don't login?

getting treated like this is just not right. complimentary gems for maintance is simply not enough. we shouldn't be locked out of progression systems and get robbed of micro curency and benefits we PAID for

Mongril Stardive is the only game that doesn't treat you like this, every other chinese and even jap gacha slop treat you like this, and everybody is just ok with it

[tulip kayak]

sir this is a wendy's

[west canopy]

no this was apology for rollback of exploiting golden tetris farming

Hotta games as ussual, crapton full of exploitable bugs, not a surprise

oh the game works now i guess i'll go test it

[west canopy]

🙏

[west canopy]

I'm not sure what was wrong with the UI? looks fine (same as before) what should be different?

[tulip kayak]

Nothing broke

Dont worry about it

[devout grove]

flashbang fix would be nice too if you could, found a repeatable area for that where we enter the beyond the rails ghost train at the top of the map.

[west canopy]

oh speaking of, some "dialogue bubbles" in story scenes (overhead text) look uncapped (10k probably? i didn't measure)

but not a big deal. i don't remember seeing that before tho. will have to investigae more. haven't done story stuff in a while

maybe it happens only inside your Eden or whathever it is your hq building

[devout grove]

yeah i've seen that in eibon as well for the dialogue text bubbles

[tulip kayak]

dm

[tulip kayak]

@devout grove try

[devout grove]

rhythm game fixed, dialogue bubbles no longer go over peak but it also turned some text gray, like hp/uid

[tulip kayak]

yeah FDDA is already handled by composite shader

you're looking at the wrong shader

ok, how do you fast travel in this game

[devout grove]

open map, tp to the phone booths that you've unlocked

[coarse axle]

where da shadows though

[devout grove]

find the towers to show the map if its not unlocked

[tulip kayak]

ok so they changed the dialoge boxshader

you just need to find it again

is the dialogue box 10000 nits

or is it just higher brightness

[devout grove]

just the text i think

the box is black

[tulip kayak]

ok so they didn't change the dialogue box shader

figured it out

[charred solstice]

ah yes, since we're testing some NTE:
r.CharacterIndirectLightingMethodForLumen=True
r.CharacterIndirectLightingMethodForAmbientCube=True

I am undecided how much it helps

epecially since spi did work on the charater custom lut

@tulip kayak use these since I think your GPU can handle it if you want to harrass forge with more RT eye candy
r.SampledLighting.Lights.Sky=1
r.SampledLighting.Indirect.Spatial.ApplyApproxVisibility=0
r.SampledLighting.Indirect.MultiBounceWithLumen=1
r.SampledLighting.Indirect.ExportHitT=True
r.SampledLighting.ApproximateVisibilityMode=0
r.SampledLighting.Direct.ExportHitT=1
r.SampledLighting.Direct=1
r.SampledLighting.Indirect.ApplyFinalApproxVisibility=0
r.SampledLighting.Indirect=True
r.SampledLighting.Indirect.ExportHitT=True
r.SampledLighting.Direct.AlwaysSampleDirLight=1
r.SampledLighting.TransparentShadow=1 (oops miss one, this one is kewl)
r.SampledLighting.Direct.AlwaysSampleDirLight=1 (and forgot this one, kinda harsh on vram pressure)

[devout grove]

got any comparison pics of what those changes do?

[charred solstice]

Apperently I thought it was using the Nvidia branch of UE...turns out, the mytery continues, it's using a custom RT inserted into the nvidia RTXDI, inserted into Lumen

full inception style

it's still nvidia RTXDI on UE, but a bunch of special sauce, maybe for fps reasons

what those cvars do is for a little more fps, insert back the visuals of the full Restir system

you'll have shadows you didn't have before and deeper colors where there aren't

though you'll also realize there's large popin radius, which I think was always there, just now easier to see with more detail thrown in

I could turn on more...but engine crashes and dies from vram imposion

and 17fps...

[devout grove]

sounds interesting, i'll check it out

[vital knoll]

unrelated but you already know about how "Graphics Quality" doesn't tell u much?

like if you set to Performance, and set each setting up, you will have Lumen disabled (Lumen option is missing for unsupported GPUs)

But if set to Cinematic, Lumen turns on without you knowing = fps drop, even if you set each setting to lowest it stays on

[charred solstice]

that's because NTE is of how they rigged it up, the nvidia branch of UE has a dependancy system

the devs probably thought they didn't want to do the usual scalability group flip toggle, and just have "modes"

and the devs for whatever reason, won't expose what they should be exposed

like vsync is in this game, f-you

you can turn off forced vsync with r.vsync=0

[vital knoll]

, but i Google'd and apparently WuWa is the same but I'm letting it marinate for now

but atleast with WuWa you can set/see each setting

[charred solstice]

This shadow doesn't exist unless you turn direct/indirect on.

[tulip kayak]

ya ok not gonna patch UID

well, I could hardcode it for 4k users like I did for endfield again, but the more global methods of patching requires messing with addon.cpp which I don't want to do since this addon is shared with other games

fuck ultrawide and sub 4k players as usual

[devout grove]

hardcode it

[tulip kayak]

yep

[charred solstice]

spiwar did you make the text super dim on purpose for the fix? or is there suppose to be a counter setting?

[tulip kayak]

dont use the build

wrong method

[charred solstice]

k

[devout grove]

found the shader for the blocky square waves

[tulip kayak]

NTE

• patch more UI shaders
• add UID hiding for 4K users only

[hearty nexus]

any recommendation for lumen only, or those parameter works for lumen as well

[charred solstice]

r.CharacterIndirectLightingMethodForLumen=True
r.CharacterIndirectLightingMethodForAmbientCube=True
these work for all graphics settings. the sampledlights only work on RTs

I didn't really take a good look on lumens but yes there's a few things you can do, depending if you want more fps or less

[shell igloo]

this isn't true at all

i know for a fact that P5X does send you your daily resources to the mail if you miss a day

[hearty nexus]

personally i think the lumen lightning is more applicable for the anime aesthetic of the game, if the reflection doesnt look like shit it will be perfect

[dusty girder]

the login streak is prescious

looong ago (early in the game's life) FGO had a 24+ maint, EVERYBODY lost their loginstreak

we all went crazy

[charred solstice]

technically RT is using lumen emulation, in fact if you turn it off lumen emulation mode, it looks more physically accurate. aka, no random reflective roads and tiles,etc

the "lumen" doesn't look different in full RT, is by designed...to the dev's sadness

so when people say "i see no difference"....there's actually a real reason

[hearty nexus]

yeah im not sure i understand what it means from what i see on comparison video, the RT option doesn't have global illumination, meanwhile the lumen have it, the full ray tracing have realistic global illumination and ray tracing, lumen seem tuned to anime aesthetic instead

[ocean wave]

Hi, is it normal that I'm limited to 200 nits with Renodx in the game Directive 8020? No matter my settings, the highlights never go above 200 nits.

[charred solstice]

ummm I don't know what you're talking about, full RT is doing RTXGI

[hearty nexus]

i mean the RT only not the full RT

[charred solstice]

that i am not sure of, I never capture the settings of regular RT

but reflections is part of RTXGI

it's not like it suddently stops being RTXGI

[shell igloo]

the lutbuilder hasn't been added to the mod yet

[hearty nexus]

well that you will have to ask the developer for it, all advanced graphic options in NTE seem to have different kind of issue

i would like to share the video but it's in Chinese

[charred solstice]

I mean we've now been able to peak into their cvar settings. So I know exactly what it's leaning on, if not for why.

[hearty nexus]

hmm alright then i don't have detail knowledge about how UE5 stuff works just pretend i didn't say anything

[charred solstice]

what i think RT mode is, they chopped off direct lighting, and they used Lumen fallback

which is how the setup works, everything if not done will fall back to lumen

[hearty nexus]

The screenshot I got from a comparison video, full rt -> rt only -> lumen

[hot wind]

does anyone know in NTE i set my settings to low but it seems fps drop? it's the same with the highest setting

the settings are bugged, doesn't add fps much

[charred solstice]

you will need to explain more, but there was a noticed posted about a fps drop which you need to restart your launcher to fix

[hot wind]

it's like, no matter what graphics quality settings i set, fps is almost the same

[mild thicket]

You need to change presets

Not just settings

[hot wind]

the Graphics Quality setting?

[mild thicket]

Yes

Individual settings make a difference but it's minimal

[hot wind]

yes that's exactly my problem, setting to Graphics QualitySmooth gives way more fps than manually setting each setting low

reflections take a hit, it changes drastically

there's no ray tracing options

[mild thicket]

The lighting changes yes

[hot wind]

i think that's the culprit low fps

[mild thicket]

You need extreme or higher for lumen or RT

If you go lower those options get disabled and you get the normal lighting

More fps tho

[hot wind]

dude the game settings is doing shenaningans

if you choose Graphics Quality - Smooth and turn each setting high, it's more fps
Graphics Quality - Cinematic and then turn each setting low, it's actually lower fps than the first one

the fuck is happening

[mild thicket]

What I just said

Use 2x upscaling and FG

Game will still look decent

If you want lumen/rt

[charred solstice]

soo umm i checked a bit of RT, and it's doing raytracing more then relfections, HWRT is also on and an entire pipline is light up, probably r.raytracing.shadows as well

the fact that they look similar is because of dev tuning, not because it's "just reflections

on the flip side...with RT i can turn on megalights (the much marketed UE feature)

NTE in megalights~

for reference: lumen version

[noble grove]

I'd like to know this too. Reading up, seems like it still crashes. Might just play this one SDR

[keen ermine]

you can definitely make those shadows better with lumen at like no cost
r.Shadow.Virtual.ResolutionLodBiasLocal -1.5 should probably do the trick

[charred solstice]

NTE lumen version is using CSM. it did not want to do VSM that cvar will litterally do nothing.

[vivid rune]

I played the whole game with the mod and had 0 crashes

[hearty nexus]

well that is certainly interesting, guess dev still care about mid hardware players as well

[charred solstice]

NTE lumen looks extremely good for the fact it's not using the Unreal marketing features.

[hearty nexus]

i dont have anything higher then 4080 or 5070ti guess lumen for me, but lumen is also one of the unreal marketing feature isn't it

[charred solstice]

extremely conservative settings of lumen. No vsm, no nanite, and as you can see, not even megalights.

it's a lot of pure hand crafted graphics tweaks without RT mode

[hearty nexus]

No nanite is really unfortunate as pop in are quite obvious well can only hope devs do something about it

[charred solstice]

nanite would bring about the dreaded transversal stutter, and also kill off your vram in quick order. Though nanite would provide some much higher quality texture details

so give and take, like all of UE's tech...they're problematic

[noble grove]

Ok great to hear, thanks. Did you use UE extended?

[covert moon]

@tulip kayakThank you very much for the latest NTE tagged build - sorry to bother, is your build NTE only?
Should we use Marats UE Extended for everything UE and your build only for NTE and not update to latest Marat when it drops?
I noticed there is a large file size difference too.
I see this - https://github.com/marat569/renodx/pull/85 is that Marat pulling your latest NTE linked above changes?

Very curious about file size difference - as in different games/things covered etc
Thank you very much!

[dusty girder]

@covert moon the filesize difference is just github's compiler and the local compiler doing different stuff

all the NTE changes get merged right away into ue extended

so the best one to get is always my latest one

the github link you sent shows that I merged the changes

[tame raft]

were directive 8020's shaders added to the addon?

[solar prairie]

Doesn't seem so

Both on this and on Call of the Elder Gods, Special K HDR might be the solution for now

[austere root]

game needs an HDR fix badly it's pretty bad

[tame raft]

yeah I tried it for a bit and couldn't really continue, I'll put the game aside for now

[gritty sparrow]

I've been gone for a while; what's the ue-extended vs the now normal ue extension?

[vital knoll]

no one can truly say but it's about correct tonemappers, and better... colors? very not sure

w8

extended is like v2 of ue generic

[tulip kayak]

it's better

dont worry about it

[vital knoll]

[west canopy]

Do I put these in [/Script/Engine.RendererSettings] or anywhere else?

[brave aurora]

@dusty girder Until Dawn remake native HDR works with extended ootb, I think you can default HDR path in the addon?

exe is named Bates-Win64-Shipping.exe

[north fjord]

I think extended addon work with until dawn, with ingame HDR off

[brave aurora]

is there a difference between upgrading SDR and using native HDR?

[north fjord]

Not tested, just know it works. But game native HDR is fine, just required black floor lowering, according to musa.

[brave aurora]

yeah, native seems pretty good, reno is more for fine tuning/customization and bypassing the poor in-game peak brightness slider

[north fjord]

Yeah native HDR is 300 nits paper white

[brave aurora]

that too, a little too bright for a horror game. You can use Lillium's brightness adjustment, but Reno is more convenient

[indigo plank]

Native HDR with UE Extended allows you to use transformer frame gen without the DLSS Fix addon to get rid of flickering and it can be more stable since you’re not upgrading resources

[dusty girder]

@brave aurora yea sent me reshade.log so I can get the product name

[dusty girder]

not yet

I'm one man

[charred solstice]

just systemsettings is fine, everything that's anything can always go there 99% of the time.

[tame raft]

it's fine, take your time!

[gritty sparrow]

Hmm, the colors seem to be a bit off like on the metal to the left of the image but I can’t figure out why it’s doing that

[dusty girder]

you have to restart the game

after changing upgrade path

[gritty sparrow]

That's the weird part; I did. But it's like the way the colors are jank on the metal

[dusty girder]

try safe grade?

also is this ini tweaks

or the game's native hdr

maybe it just needs shaders to get fixed up

[dusty girder]

Bates-Win64-Shipping.exe (Until Dawn)

ty got what I need

[gritty sparrow]

The only thing in the engine.ini I placed was [SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

Game never had native hdr to my knowledge, but it was month's ago when I last ran the renodx-unrealengine addon.

I tried safe grade to no avail. When I turned off the Upgrade Path it then looks like this

[dusty girder]

that means you need to make sure upgrade path is on, and then upgrade the right resources

idk what they are

[gritty sparrow]

I'll go line by line, but so far the only thing tat produced an image for me was R10G10B10A2_UNORM. Else it's just black

[dusty girder]

yea thats because of dlss

output side rgb10

it should be the same upgrades as

the old ue addon

[west canopy]

RT is not working inside bank heist mode? I am getting max fps there (NTE)

[gritty sparrow]

This was the ueaddon before the extended, but it's not showing color on the world either. in-game it's not robust but there. The first image is the last ue-addon. The second is the one from about a year ago when I first got the dumped shaders over.

[dusty girder]

no idea

[gritty sparrow]

I grabbed the old one that was first output and it seems to be fine, so I'm not sure what's changed beyond using the latest dlss--colors aren't mishandled and the color is present on the homescreen

[dusty girder]

done, defaulted until dawn to use the native hdr path on startup

I need to add a GUI element that tells people to use the game's native hdr if the game is part of the native hdr list

[vivid rune]

Does directive 8020 was already included in the mod?

[upper sierra]

This branch is supposed to be work with every UE5 titles? Im trying to use it in Hell Is Us and turning it on/off doesnt do anything

[brave pendant]

I can't get the UE Extended reno mod to work either in Hell is Us. On an AMD GPU, and if I switch from Preset 1 to Off, it's like it's only applying it to the HUD and not the game image at all. Nothing works with the sliders

been trying all night, @dusty girder any suggestions what I might be doing wrong?

Installed ReShade in the correct folder for UE game with the Shipping exe, only liliums analysis shader, no other effects, added in the UE extended reno file, HDR enabled in game and in windows. can't adjust anything with the sliders, does nothing. willing to bet this is an AMD shader issue

Effects like Film grain work, but none of the custom color grading works at all. is it not supposed to? Game brightness or UI brightness also do nothing

[fallen drum]

this is probably the issue #1411800884303626311 message

[brave pendant]

wow, had no idea. ok so i think then it was probably working bc the film grain stuff was. lemme just reinstall it all again and see

thank you, im just dumb ignore me. i didn't see this was pinned SMH

[dusty girder]

@brave pendant hell is us needs native hdr on

if sliders dont work, read the pin

nvm you figured it out

[brave pendant]

yeah think i did, haven't tested but i didnt realize i'd need to change the scene or go into the inventory or something to get some of them to work

thanks

[strange pebble]

😂

[peak galleon]

wackass dns service

[west canopy]

pepeSlop

[vital knoll]

does anyone else with NTE they get blocky thingies in their gameplay sometimes? especially in talking skippable cutscenes?

[zenith patrol]

have Subnautica2 plan?

[shell igloo]

try the mod

and dump lutbuilders if there's any

[runic musk]

I was just about to ask the question

I will also try

black screen when i launch the game, just the sound

[stoic narwhal]

switch r10g10b10a2_Unorm to output size

[runic musk]

the game freeze

[stoic narwhal]

you'll have to switch the settings mode to advanced

it works for me

[runic musk]

ok i retry

[stoic narwhal]

switch what i said then relaunch shouldn't be black screen anymore

[runic musk]

The home menu does not open

oh its ok, i want to switch

i relaunch

[runic musk]

It works for me ! Thx

However, I don't understand why, when I switch to windowed fullscreen, the game reverts to 2560x1440 instead of 3840x2160.

[stoic narwhal]

that's the game

I had issues getting it to 4k as well

The game doesn't like scaling, had to turn my windows scaling from 150% to 100%

There might be another way but not sure what it is.

[runic musk]

ok thx !

you have change settings in renoDX ?

[stoic narwhal]

I don't think I did, let me check

I'm not as knowledgable as to what is accurate or not

but it looked good I think out of the box

[runic musk]

ok !

its ok with windows on 100%

[stoic narwhal]

Weird Ue5 shit

[runic musk]

[stoic narwhal]

maybe they'll fix it in the next two years it's in early access lol

[runic musk]

Yeah the game run smooth

Its ok for day one

[stoic narwhal]

yeah it's decent, looks great

[runic musk]

yes !

UI brightness is the only setting that changes anything

[stoic narwhal]

that's normal for Ue5, check the pin at the top and it will tell you how you can update in real time

it's an engine.ini change

usually works

[solid maple]

don't think so, that's what happens when something is missing in the mod (lut builders?)

[runic musk]

@solid maple

[solid maple]

im not a mod developer but that lut builder's gonna be useful for someone else, thanks for sending it because i'm planning on playing subnautica 2 as well

[runic musk]

NP

[quartz shoal]

Damn so no reno mod for subnautica 2 yet, was hoping one would be up for today 😢

[runic musk]

UE Reno works for waiting

[quartz shoal]

No the UI brightness slider controls the whole image. Peak and game brightness don't work. I guess it's still better than SDR lol.

I need to learn how to make Reno mods instead of waiting for others 😁

[west canopy]

guys why do i keep getting this? it just stopped working?

[bitter beacon]

I would recommend asking in the OptiScaler discord? Looks like upscaler is disabled in the game, or an issue with detecting it.

[sullen spoke]

@dusty girder Call of the Elder Gods

[dusty girder]

any old lutbuilders?

[west canopy]

is this causing this? is it supposed to be like this? (lumen/rt) 💀

yeah it was that, huh

[charred solstice]

?? you mean the lumen shadows?

[west canopy]

Is it supposed to be like that?

Its all very... black

[charred solstice]

lumen shadows work very different from RT because it's using a custom lighting mode

it's not using lighting mode=2 which uses both sky and reflection capture

so it's possible, I never tested it full with different levels of lumen

RT works with reflections data as part of it's specular data on shadows

I'll have to test that cvar againist lighting mode 1/2/3

NTE did all the beefy settings in blueprint which is why there's so much custom crap in visuals. Kinda why RT looks like lumen with better reflections even if under the hood it's completely changed

NTE also does not use eyeadaptation, or UE expanded range exposure (which nearly all modern UE games usually use)...so those also contribute to some of it

has some custom auto exposure thing going on

[charred solstice]

ok i found the issue. It's because it needs hardware lumen

it fixes itself when you turn on RT (not full RT) which turns on hwlumen

i'll see what happens If I turn on HWRT without turning on RT.

[charred solstice]

hmm i cant reproduce this exact blackness though, no matter if I use SW lumen

@west canopy I think you may have added in the samplelights stuff

[neon cargo]

Yeah : (((((

[weak scaffold]

Hey guys, I have a LUT dump for Subnautica 2 (Steam v0.10.0-113109). It's 294 .cso files. Currently, the UI slider controls the whole image.

[neon cargo]

I think SK is better than using UE extended at this current moment for subnautica 2

[sullen spoke]

none man, this was the only one that spawned

[dusty girder]

I'll get to it eventually

[charred solstice]

@west canopy i am not sure if you were the one who asked to find the hero light for NTE, but found it, i believe

[vital knoll]

i think i found the shader, but what am i gonna do with the devkit so i can put these lines? i dumped it

do i put it in this common.hlsli ?

for example 0x000D314F.vs_6_6.cso is the shader, but how am i gonna put it in the codes you sent?

[vital knoll]

uh

[west canopy]

Thats crazy. Probably not needed anymore since character lighting was fixed?

And for the shadows stuff, yeah it was because I combined ALL of the cvars you posted lol, I didn't know I shouldn't be doing that 😅

Got any more refined cvar combo recommendation presets for lumen/RT/PT modes maybe?

[atomic oak]

Directive 8020 does not work with any Reno as of now.

[stark steppe]

good ol' engine.ini native HDR works

probably better than SK

[coarse axle]

This is a vertex shader, not what you need

[coarse axle]

so theres already a video shader?

Whatever is responsible for drawing video on screen, thats the one you want to add the AutoHDR

it has to be a pixel shader

[vital knoll]

hmm i don't know yet, as there's thousands of shaders to test from so can't test them individually

and NTE doesn't have replay function so the window is very small to test

[graceful elbow]

is it possible to save selected preset in renodx? it always defaults to preset 1 even when i exit the game with preset 2 for example

[west canopy]

Found this on Reddit. I can't believe the character lighting is so bright in SDR as well. This looks really wrong. Thank you again for fixing that so much 🙏

[vital knoll]

it do look out of place

[west canopy]

yeah and it can be even worse in hdr as well (before the fix)

when everything is brighter it can stand out even more

[vital knoll]

these fade to white in NTE are blinding the hell out of me (miniled)

[tepid ridge]

So in the end for mixtape should we use ue extended? Does it come preconfigured already with the upgrades and doesn’t crash? I remember reading about crashes

[north fjord]

It crash

[tepid ridge]

Ahhhh shit. Does normal UE work?

[north fjord]

Don't know, but HDR require crash in this game

[tepid ridge]

Oh so any HDR? Welp I guess it’s SDR for this one then

[north fjord]

renodx ue

[tepid ridge]

What? I just asked about this one and you said “HDR require crash”

[north fjord]

I mean any proper hdr implementation through renodx ue will lead to crash😅

[tepid ridge]

Ohhhh ok. So no stable HDR is the TLDR right?

[stoic narwhal]

I only crashed at chapter 4, twice but it stopped. Not sure why but I was able to finish the game.

[tepid ridge]

I rather not deal with crashes at all tbh

Would kill the vibe

[tulip kayak]

[tulip kayak]

Video autohdr for what?

Nte?

Find the shader

Send it to me

In devkit

Uncheck show vertex and compute shader (you have to do it twice)

Video shader is usually just a pixel shader

[west canopy]

Btw since you managed to remove uid, would it be possible to get rid of signal bar as well?

[mild hazel]

• Subnautica 2 Support

[untold wadi]

Just lutbuilders or custom shaders?

[mild hazel]

couple lutbuilders and composite shader

I'll PR it shortly

then perhaps I will make a separate addon to fuck around with graphics

[mild hazel]

should be working now, I use the ini hdr path

[tulip kayak]

No

[dusty girder]

pr merged

@untold wadi he made it around ini tweaks

[half mortar]

iirc for me the crashes were mainly caused by pausing the game. When I stopped pausing it stopped crashing even during gameplay.

[mild hazel]

hiding HUD do be kinda nice

[dusty girder]

its 2 lines of code

well hiding UI elements

[mild hazel]

its built into U+ as a keybind now

[dusty girder]

nice

I was going to add it to ue extended anyway, just gotta stop being lazy

its just adding another cbuffer/slider

and in composite.hlsli set ui_color to 0.f if the slider is on

[mild hazel]

now... to make a separate reno for subnautica so I can try to improve their fog resolve shader

that makes sense

[tepid ridge]

Weird

[solid maple]

hmm, dunno what am I doing wrong but it doesn't seem to work for me, still getting black screen unless I force the upgrade, and then only the UI slider changes the entire game brightness

[mild hazel]

ini hdr

and upgrade path off

[dusty girder]

follow this guide, but find the subnautica 2 folder

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/557

also download the mod lazzor linked

[solid maple]

cool now it works, thanks

[inland dragon]

not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I followed everything here, dropped in lazzor's build and it's still stuck at a black screen

[dusty girder]

click advanced

in reno

turn upgrade path off

restart game

[inland dragon]

gotcha, gotcha

thanks

[mild hazel]

I guess I could have defaulted path to off for it

didn't know SDR path wouldn't work for sure

[dusty girder]

worth trying, might just need rgb10a2 unorm

output size

but if it has fg

prolly worth using ini idk

[solemn merlin]

i was thinking that smt is wrong wit hthe fog shader but i cant put my finger on it

[mild hazel]

I have a couple of fog improvements already, also the base game fog settings a bit silly in terms of how much fps fog costs

so far have changed the fog temporal reprojection filter and the noise it uses

seems a bit better overall

[solemn merlin]

especially in the open ocean dark transion

i can see some weird noise/banding

[mild hazel]

yeah the banding is pretty aggressive

[mild hazel]

if anyone wants to try fog improvements lmk

[carmine trench]

I will probably get the game tomorrow. So if you post the addon I will try it out 🙏

I have been waiting for the RenoDx mod before getting it lol

[mild hazel]

I have U+ out for it and just made this as well, dedicated addon so don't mix with ue-extended

should reduce fog banding and improve fog noise/artifacting

[dusty girder]

why did you remove lut scaling?

I guess subnauta doesnt have sdr luts

you can also remove lut strength

lut strenght/scaling only do something if the lutbuilder has an sdr lut

but lut scaling is one of the best parts of the mod

also you should remove tonemap scaling; and just default it to lms

without the scene grading sliders to properly configure hue/chroma; max channel will look like shit

[rose adder]

anyone know which part i messed up? followed the process step by step

[west canopy]

did you check if rtx hdr turned on by itself?

[rose adder]

game is currently running in background

[mild hazel]

I was running into oversized descriptors and went through removing some stuff, also probably a thing or two was lost when cloning and isolating into a standalone mod

also rewrote the packing to use fewer dwords

and some stuff isnt gone its just not configurable

[runic musk]

I have test the subnautica add on but dont work for me

[dusty girder]

if its a standalone mod, you dont need it

just hardcore the blowout/hue shift

to what looks best in the game

the only reason I even expose those sliders is because of extended being universal

[runic musk]

screenshot is on hdr but its so bland on my screen

do you have any idea ?

[mild hazel]

#1411800884303626311 message

must use ini HDR

[dusty girder]

go on the discussions

and write your own guide

but you need to somehow link people to the addon

[runic musk]

ok, the best is UE extended or reno subnautica 2 ?

[dusty girder]

you can copy and paste my code vein 2 guide

or spiwar's NTR guide

they're both the same thing

[dusty girder]

use the mod lazzor posted

[runic musk]

ok it work but the UI is bland

[atomic oak]

game pass version constant crashing with reshade/reno

[mild hazel]

the standalone one is ue-extended but with my graphics tweaks

[runic musk]

All the UI is grey

[mild hazel]

use ini HDR

no upgrades with ue-extended

[runic musk]

in engine.ini ?

[mild hazel]

Go to %localappdata%\Subnautica2\Saved\Config\Windows

Create a new text file, and name it Engine.ini

Open the file, and paste the below code into it:

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

Save the file and close it

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/563

[runic musk]

I've gone through all those steps

[mild hazel]

ok then you are good to go

the screenshot you posted is ue extended, not the standalone mod

and you also turned upgrades on which wont work

[charred solstice]

global toggle of rtx hdr. also might want to check if hdr is on in windows.

[atomic oak]

windows 11 bug, reboot and its fixed

[runic musk]

Should I delete the existing engine.ini file?

I think it work now

i have delete the game and reinstall , i did a clean install of reshade and reno

i have delete the existing engine.ini and i create a new

as shown in the tutorial

What settings do you recommend?

On color grading

[mild hazel]

I am just using the defaults right now

looks fairly good to me

[runic musk]

Ok ! 👌🏼

Thanks for you help

Have a good evening and good game

[rose adder]

done with the pc reboot checked these things as well @charred solstice

[charred solstice]

post your renodx settings

[tulip kayak]

no

dont

you motherfucker

@dusty girder we got another one

[tulip kayak]

Which steps did you follow

[vital knoll]

like this?, only pixel shaders is on now

[dusty girder]

try downloading reshade 5.7; there is a chance 5.8 might be griefed with ue extended

[tulip kayak]

good

now find that shader

[vital knoll]

429 shaders, see u in next day

[tulip kayak]

its close to the end...

work from bottom up

[vital knoll]

0x378DF900

[tulip kayak]

its not that

thats the composite shader

is that the only shader drawing the video

[vital knoll]

hmmmm i created an alt account and im just in the beginning

opening

ill see more w8

[tulip kayak]

you know you can alt F4 during a long video

for it to repeat right

[vital knoll]

yes that's what im doing

[tulip kayak]

why does it say original

do you not have ue extended installed

[vital knoll]

i have

[tulip kayak]

then you must not have it enabled

should say addon

that is a composite shader

and not what you're looking for

if that's the only shader drawing the video

then get fucked

[solemn merlin]

guys what im doing wrong with ue addon

is there some magic sauce to get it working

same thing happened to me last time i ran satisfactory

[vital knoll]

0x378DF900, and 0x90a70e52, is it normal there's two shaders for the videos, they both hide the cutscene

EPILEPSY WARNING

im gonna test for more/

EDIT: yeah postive those are the only shaders drawing the videos

[wheat glade]

Anyone notice a lot of banding in Windrose with Renodx? Any way to really alleviate it?

[charred solstice]

waaa new branch of reshade released? what changed?

[tulip kayak]

you're 90% fucked

i am so sorry

[tulip kayak]

turn on trace pipeline creation and trace descriptor table

0x90a70e52 will have a draw number on the devkit

click that number

it will lead you to the resources for the shader

take a picture of that

although this is an almost meaningless endeavor because any shit that's drawing to the composite is likely going to be resource clamped

[vital knoll]

0x378DF900 / 0x90a70e52

[tulip kayak]

i dont care about 378DF900

scroll up on a70e52

oh wait i mean scroll down

until you get to the RTV0

or UAV whatever it is

of A70E52

[vital knoll]

idk, this the rtv0

with ps_6_6

scrolling down endlessly, i always see that ps_6_6, so no UAV

this is draw indexed "446"

there are also different Draw Indexed but this the closest "446"

dam it also affects the main menu ui

so it's like generally UI shader

yeah i think there's no chance

[tulip kayak]

so it means

you haven't found the shader

u just found

another composite shader

lol

but i dont think you should continue

unless you want to

[vital knoll]

i have an annoying trait to keep things until i solve them
like i spent hours just to get Minecraft Local Multiplayer working (online via VPN) but we will see