nevermind
#Unreal Engine
tulip kayak
there's too many issues anyway
i dont think there's any issues left
the custom lutbuilder isn't used
people only having UI brightness work prob fuck up their settings somewhere
unless they somehow made a new lutbuilder spawn
charred solstice
i dont think there's any issues left
there's some minor ones like the char menu background, super minor, and for me reno was flickering moving camera, and of course the char grading issue. But whatever, it seems too much work for ue-generic to fix for a single game.
It won't be the perfect experiance, but there are other HDR solutions NTE can use from
tulip kayak
there's some minor ones like the char menu background, super minor, and for me r...
char grading is fixed
whats the char background issue
charred solstice
let me screenie
that blackground is incorrect, let capture non renodx
it's minor though, so whatever
and I haven't gotten the no-op char spi version to work, but ya, it looks difficult anyway
warm pewter
unless they somehow made a new lutbuilder spawn
tulip kayak
the custom lutbuilder isn't used
^
warm pewter
I tried with fresh config so idk what went wrong
charred solstice
mmm...maybe when spi PR's the commits, it'll all work in the end
tulip kayak
actually i wont look at it tomorrow
need to go far enough in the game to decide whether this is worth the effort
charred solstice
could you reupload your renodx.addon64 for us?
tulip kayak
where 90% of the time spent is on the addon and not on playing the game tiself
#1411800884303626311 message
reiterate that
- upgrade path should be off
- engine ini should match the one in the zip file
if theres a new lutbuilder that doesnt start with 8C21, put it here
warm pewter
Found what went wrong
It was DLSS anything doesn't work except DLAA
DLAA works
tulip kayak
I'm using DLSS performance with frame gen
tulip kayak
Welp
charred solstice
i guess Spiwar special, just use the older version then
tulip kayak
If that works for you just use it
charred solstice
ok, interesting
it's dlss files?
so for anyone that can't get spr special NTE to work, purge all your DLSS overrides and whatever swapper you may have use
game default all your dlss
charred solstice
I think that change you did, is just too sensitive
shell igloo
anyone else getting massive shader comp stutter? should i purge my shader cache just in case
mild thicket
idk if it's related or not but optiscaler has issues with the game
dlss inputs randomly appear/disappear
tulip kayak
Dlss can spawn new output shaders
Which doesnt matter in this game
Since we're patching the hdr ini path
charred solstice
Dlss can spawn new output shaders
well that sux.... oh well.., revisit in next week or never, it kinda works as long as you know you can't use DLSS-RR or overrides
well it works in RR+DAA... so when RTX7090 comes out, we're good
mild thicket
got the addon to work on my end but upscaler in performance mode makes it look wrong
remote viper
How do I fix this issue where the characters look completely washed out? I'm using the SDR settings.
mild thicket
could it be related to the .ini hdr?
shell igloo
RR isn't great in this game
maybe i'll try forcing D instead of E
also im mega cpu limited
40fps with full rt with a 5700x3d in the first city area
charred solstice
How do I fix this issue where the characters look completely washed out? I'm usi...
don't use the HDR ini, if you are using sdr path upgrade
stone bear
So to reiterate
The addon works, but only if you don't use DLSS overrides,
If you do, DLSS only works as DLAA?
And RR is shit in this game
charred solstice
maybe i'll try forcing D instead of E
I donno, E is fine, it's always been the "soft" DLSS4.0 but you kinda need it for RT unless you want to see a whole bunch of crawling effects on reflections
you can try raising the sharpening
charred solstice
So to reiterate
The addon works, but only if you don't use DLSS overrides,
If y...
no, it works with DLSS no overrides. but not RR.
shell igloo
using sharpening isn't gonna fix the reflections becoming blurry at any slight camera movement
charred solstice
RR will make it not work
then you have a tough choice, crawling artifacts or blurrying
shell igloo
well i'll use full rt anyways
charred solstice
well you can turn off RR in full RT
shell igloo
but cpu perf is atrocious either way
charred solstice
lumen looks quite good here
Full RT is just...a little on top for a lot of cost
stone bear
but cpu perf is atrocious either way
The CPU shit optimizations in gachas are why I bought a 9800X3D tbh
charred solstice
the night time is completely changing
stone bear
The CPU shit optimizations in gachas are why I bought a 9800X3D tbh
ZZZ went from 70 to 120 instantly
from a 5800
shell igloo
lumen looks quite good here
lumen gets me over 60fps when not using fg
their hwrt pipeline is super heavy
mild thicket
i turned off RT
while full RT seemed to look good to me, having to use performance upscaling with RR made it looks extremely grainy and normal RT didn't seem to change much to begin with :/
charred solstice
knowing how try hard forge is, no
charred solstice
NTE has unique issues ^ even DLSS is an issue now
charred solstice
on the flip side, it look really nice when the lighting works
coarse axle
Does FG randomly turn on and off in the menus and produce CTDs
charred solstice
bootyful
coarse axle
Eastern devs love that shit
charred solstice
Does FG randomly turn on and off in the menus and produce CTDs
so apperently there's a nvidia profile to fix it
it was driving me a little nuts
Reddit
anyway @coarse axle while the RT is nice and the inception like effects might eye candy you a bit, you'll regret opening your renodx devkit
charred solstice
well...endfield hdr still surviving
so I hope not, but umm...i'm on special-k sauce right now due to using RR
and it seem to look ok
so renodx maybe ded-ish...but hdr lives on
sharp sphinx
any idea why i got some error message when i launch the game telling me that somme files are modified and can ban my acc ?
charred solstice
change it to d3d12.dll
mild thicket
rename it
charred solstice
or use the spi special
vernal grail
Surprised I got UE Extended to work on NTE without too much extra.
sharp sphinx
Ok so apprently only the hud is hdr but not in the game if i disable or renable reno this doesn't change image
i think i miss something
oh mb i don't read the pins
sharp sphinx
https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1411800884303626311/14988784275...
yup i already do it, it's okay now just a last question do you guys have any idea why when i rotate teh camera fast i got some flicker ?
with fg on or off
charred solstice
yup i already do it, it's okay now just a last question do you guys have any ide...
DLSS stuff, see if your sliders are working
do not use RR, do not override your DLSS settings in nvidia inspector/app
sharp sphinx
okay i will check that thanks again
west canopy
maybe the engine.ini has to be in a different place? it's in appdata for NTE for example
balmy sleet
It works for me in that spot so 
west canopy
do you also get a shitton of noise in the adventurer guild when you talk to the npc?
it's the worst spot in the game for me, it just freaks out
balmy sleet
Yep thats how I know its working
balmy sleet
In game denoiser is garbo the dlss M or L models have better ones so we turn the ones off in game
west canopy
right but I still get wobbly tree shadows and i think some really bad DoF instability on certain angles
it's not that bad when actually just focusing on playing the game, but
i jsut didn't notice any improvement at all that's the thing
stone bear
or rather should I mod it
It's always a good solution to mod a new gacha!!
stone bear
NTE has unique issues ^ even DLSS is an issue now
On an unrelated note
??????
Close???
charred solstice
closed is standard for off in some UE titles
stone bear
closed is standard for off in some UE titles
Weird terminology
Also I don't seem to see RT options other than Lumen?
visual timber
might be some weird chinese translation
stone bear
Also I don't seem to see RT options other than Lumen?
SSR/Lumen and that's it
No other options
Not even Lumen Low/High lol
visual timber
wrong
tulip swan
Anyone having problem with enabling fullscreen native res? I want to play 5120x1440p on fullscreen while max i can set is 3840x1080p windowed
visual timber
play a mission go back to the options and ull find new ones, i only saw lumen at first too, not sure why
west canopy
Yep thats how I know its working
yeah you're actually right, it does work and a big improvement in the adventurer guild
instead of pixel noise i get some boiling tho
but i did see a shitton of pixel noise during cutscenes inside this area
however the trees never got fixed for me
stone bear
play a mission go back to the options and ull find new ones, i only saw lumen at...
Ok, that makes sense
west canopy
boiling is not there with the game denoisers, interesting. i wonder if toggling a specific setting back on would help
west canopy
Weird terminology
the more asian waifu slop games i play the more i got acustomed to it
charred solstice
Also I don't seem to see RT options other than Lumen?
I've heard you need to have certain GPU to see the Ray tracing option, but it's it's own separate menu.
stone bear
I've heard you need to have certain GPU to see the Ray tracing option, but it's ...
I mean I have an RTX4080 so that's not a problem
I guess it doesn't show before you finish intro though
charred solstice
I mean I have an RTX4080 so that's not a problem
I guess it doesn't show before...
It appeared as soon as you get into the in game menu...soo... not sure.
stark steppe
Close???
makes me smile lol, English 101 for Chinese speakers
open = on, close = off
stoic yoke
sorry for the tag but whenever you have the time could you send the lutbuilders for state of decay 2 @indigo plank
playing in sdr is actually just not it
covert moon
Dear wizards, safe to try out renodx [addons] on Far Far West and has anyone tried? Thank you. Gonna try NTE now.
stoic yoke
Dear wizards, safe to try out renodx [addons] on Far Far West and has anyone tri...
#1411800884303626311 message this is probably relevant to u then ?
covert moon
Thank you very much Jake saw the "bomb" gonna try it - thank you [with the latest reno linked lower]
stark steppe
NTE findings from using the ue-extended addons dropped in channel today
the one that fixed the 10k nits bug worked
later ones that fix character brightness instead make most sliders stop working, especially when DLSS is on
vernal grail
Anyone having problem with enabling fullscreen native res? I want to play 5120x1...
Just seems to be a bug, at least on my end the render resolution is still my fullscreen.
indigo plank
sorry for the tag but whenever you have the time could you send the lutbuilders ...
this build has the lutbuilders added. i also PRed them to marat's repo so it'll be available on his github whenever he merges it
requires bgra8 typeless upgrades. it might break the map screen in-game though
tulip swan
Just seems to be a bug, at least on my end the render resolution is still my ful...
Yeah I've already noticed that as well. Thanks!
Also i got somehow 6x frame gen to work. Swapping streamline files works, tho you can't relaunch the launcher as itll swap them back
vernal grail
Is unlocking over 120 simple? I just got home again.
stoic yoke
this build has the lutbuilders added. i also PRed them to marat's repo so it'll ...
tysm legend
stoic yoke
this build has the lutbuilders added. i also PRed them to marat's repo so it'll ...
@dusty girder u asked to be tagged iirc
tulip swan
Is unlocking over 120 simple? I just got home again.
It just works for me, I didn't do anything to make it work specifically. It may be tied to frame gen somehow
vernal grail
Oh that makes sense.
charred solstice
Midfield had the same reflections
"Had" is the right word...a certain abandoned child.
Don't worry, even if meh textures, when it comes to brute force reflections, NTE got you
only took 4x MFG to do it
dusty girder
reiterate that
- upgrade path should be off
- engine ini should match the one i...
@tulip kayak remember to tell people to set engine.ini to read only after makign changes, or else game deletes everything
white coral
I noticed people have option for full rt in settings but for some reason I don’t. I only have lumen
charred solstice
ya HOTTA seems to have an internal whitelist for RT mode. Not sure how it's working.
if they didn't hash the usersettings, I might remmeber what it was, i think it was benablertquality=3
i didn't bother to save my beta settings...
west canopy
for those that play NTE, how long does it take from first boot of the game to unlock microtransaction menu?
charred solstice
people doing rerolll streams
averages around 15 to 18minutes
so not the most reroll friendly
west canopy
hmm so if you don't skip even longer, ok
i'm doing a region hack that can lower your store prices but this is do at your own risk
white coral
So I’m basically screwed out of full rt?
charred solstice
I donno, you sure it's not in the menu in game?
west canopy
i'm doing a region hack that can lower your store prices but this is do at your ...
speaking of, has anyone done this before and did they run into any issues?
i'm doing a reverse - topup website method, where i let them login trough their system first, so the game registers your region, after that instead of using the website if you pay trough paypal or other services they never see your credit card, and paypal does the currency transaction (you always get the HKD or whathever invoice)
charred solstice
Finally unlocked weather system..ok whatever Full RT is...not bad.
visual ice
speaking of, has anyone done this before and did they run into any issues?
I have been doing it in multiple gacha games for the past year or two and never ran into any sorts of issues
I just use a vpn and use top up on the gacha's website
Mostly vpn to japan
charred solstice
with that said, if you want to be safe, just use android/apple on mobile. Those services are always hidden from the payment services
west canopy
nice, so it shouldn't be an issue as i suspected. but there's one situation that worries me tho and it's with this specific subcription item for Mongil that requires your actual credit card (they even do a test charge) and there's no other way
charred solstice
apple is taking 25% cut or whatever, but that's not your problem
white coral
https://github.com/llg1634/nte-ray-tracing-panel/releases apprently this unlocks rt. im gonna test real quick
west canopy
nice, so it shouldn't be an issue as i suspected. but there's one situation that...
if I do that i'm affraid they'll actually see my (ccard) region because they don't allow other methods, it's a "recuring sub" that hangs directly on your card
vernal grail
Looks like they're just using FakeNVAPI to spoof a 4090/5080m to fix RT.
visual ice
if I do that i'm affraid they'll actually see my (ccard) region because they don...
I honestly think you will be fine I havent heard of people getting their accounts banned for such stuff yet but there is always some amount of risk.
west canopy
I just use a vpn and use top up on the gacha's website
since I don't have a vpn instead I let the thirdparty guys login first which hopefuly locks the entire account to that region, ever heared of folks doing this method is this common? I discovered it by accident
visual ice
since I don't have a vpn instead I let the thirdparty guys login first which hop...
You mean something like this site?
west canopy
yes so they login and try to topup and send me msg they can't because account is too fresh, so i log in after them do the tutorial and tell them to try again
they topup, it works, and all my prices are in HKD and cheaper, even if i buy myself trough the game (paypal gets an invoice for HKD and just converts the $)
white coral
Can confirm ray tracing is now enabled
west canopy
they topup, it works, and all my prices are in HKD and cheaper, even if i buy my...
the reason for this is it discounts everything that's not availble trough 3rd party webshops like battlepass and special packs
visual ice
Hm well on lootbar it loads up a android emulator session in which you log in and top up for cheaper which is basically the same thing as your method and I have been using that site for Endfield since it launched and havent had any issues
I doubt the companies really care unless it becomes widespread and starts to impact them in a visible way
west canopy
oh on lootbar you do it yourself? ive been using ldshop (and they do it manually)
west canopy
actually ive seen some stuff even cheaper but ldshop has this thing with the coupon stuff
aaaand there's always the hidden service fee
so probably all same shit
visual ice
Ya lootbar has the same thing it showers you with coupons at the start
But yeah its all the same shit wrapped in a different skin at the end of the day
west canopy
yup they just get you with hidden service fees at the end
visual ice
But still a good way to save money when you are doing a big top up
west canopy
there's concern it might flag you if they use stolen credit cards etc, this has never been the case so far we never seen it happen?
visual ice
Havent seen that happen personally
west canopy
me neither but it's the first thing my ai slop friend has warned me about
visual ice
Ai slops be slopping. Every time I mention gacha modding it starts warning me about how theres a high chance I will get banned
west canopy
But still a good way to save money when you are doing a big top up
i'm a light spender but even saving 30% on monthly subs adds a lot over time, not to mention if you tip your toes into multiple gachas...
visual ice
i'm a light spender but even saving 30% on monthly subs adds a lot over time, no...
Yup every penny counts 
Even when its wasted on gacha slop
split trail
did you figure out a fix for this?
charred solstice
did you figure out a fix for this?
make sure you're not using any DLSS override in nvidia, and RR is off
split trail
okay I'll test thanks
visual ice
vernal grail
Can't do RTX as well as 5070 
visual ice
https://github.com/llg1634/nte-ray-tracing-panel/releases apprently this unlocks...
Does this work 😭
has to be a bug that no framegen or ray tracing options are available for my 4090 but who knows how long it will take them to fix it
Oh fml
vernal grail
As far as I can tell whatever that is relies heavily on Optiscaler/FakeNVAPI so, I'd consider just trying that.
winter rune
I'm gonna guess there's some tomfoolery because it's showing up on my end with a 4090
visual ice
I'm gonna guess there's some tomfoolery because it's showing up on my end with a...
I restarted my PC after I got that error and now it works
I wont even question it
winter rune
white coral
@visual ice just saw your message, yes it worked for me
I just realized that my peak brightness is going over what I set in the settings
Is there something I did wrong or a fix?
split trail
pretty sure it's related to text bubbles
unless that was already fixed
goes to like 10k nits
white coral
Nah that isn’t it, I don’t have anything hitting 10k. I set my peak to 620 and it’s hitting like 920 when I look at the sun
charred solstice
Can't do RTX as well as 5070 <:despairge:1409648830307369061>
odd, my friend has a 5070 and he sees full RT
carmine trench
Reno currently only works with DLAA for me right now. Quality, balanced… etc. don’t work. I don’t have any dlss overrides active and restored my NTE NVIDIA profile to defaults. Does someone know what the problem could be?
I also followed the NTE reno ZipBomb instructions
charred solstice
Don't use RR
white coral
idk why but game goes over my peak brightness, I have it set to 620
carmine trench
Don't use RR
Im not using RR 
carmine trench
Reno currently only works with DLAA for me right now. Quality, balanced… etc. do...
(Only the UI Brightness slider works)
vernal grail
odd, my friend has a 5070 and he sees full RT
I was being sarcastic, I have a 5070 and run full RTX.
balmy sleet
Whats the diff between UE Extended and normal ue reno?
amber sapphire
industria 2 comes out in 10 minutes! does it have hdr?
white coral
So I figured out the problem the update ue extended that fixes 10k ui also overshoots the cap you have set in the settings. I went back to the old one and it no longer goes over my peak brightness set in the settings.
warm pewter
My game look worse with RR for some reason
With built-in denoiser disabled
glossy cipher
mines almost done downloading
I guess you're about to tell us 🫡
white coral
Never mind, I figured out the problem. It’s when I have dlss on anything other than dlaa
charred solstice
Man the boiling without RR is insane for me
yes well...I don't quite know what spiwar did, so making it universally compatible will be a wip. You can try other forms of HDR if you really need HDR.
stoic yoke
requires bgra8 typeless upgrades. it might break the map screen in-game though
i tested both 8 typeless upgrades to all 3 types and i get a red screen in game no matter what, do i need upgrade copy destinations or something
sorry again for the tag
white coral
Has anyone tried that Chinese hdr thing that someone linked earlier?
twilit lantern
Is there an updated list of which games are working with UE extended? Or a pinned message in any channel?
crude tiger
What's the recommended black level for Stalker 2? -10 or 0?
In correlation with the UE Extended mod, of course
steel lion
Does reno work on NTE?
balmy sleet
I think not fully right now?
balmy sleet
Does reno work on NTE?
#1411800884303626311 message
charred solstice
Does reno work on NTE?
around 90% with some mightly specific limitations.
white coral
For some reason with the most updated mod, no matter what it doesn’t work with dlss. I don’t have any overrides and not using RR. The old one works fine but it has the 10k ui bug
amber sapphire
No HDR for industria 2
vivid rune
Can someone confirm if the mod works nice with aphelion and Indústria 2 ? Both games do not have HDR
amber sapphire
Reshade didn’t seem to hook and the program wouldn’t install Reno
balmy sleet
Reshade didn’t seem to hook and the program wouldn’t install Reno
If you mean HDR installer it needs to be added and installed manually if the game isnt in the database and and or it doesn't detect unreal
amber sapphire
If you mean HDR installer it needs to be added and installed manually if the gam...
Yeah but reshade didn’t even hook. Weird
amber sapphire
Worked this time
Reno showing as available in the app to install for it too
And game just black screens now
I can hear the menu and music lol
Yeah black screen again retrying
balmy sleet
And game just black screens now
Needs R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size upgrade
shell igloo
how do you disable the reflections denoiser? does the GI not suffer with only DLSS SR?
indigo plank
i tested both 8 typeless upgrades to all 3 types and i get a red screen in game ...
It should just be b8g8r8a8_typeless output size. For me, I get a brief flash of a red screen upon starting up the game but everything works after that. All settings maxed out, borderless window at 4K res on the Steam version
amber sapphire
Reno is causing major issues with reflection and lights in Industria 2
vivid rune
Reno is causing major issues with reflection and lights in Industria 2
Same here
amber sapphire
I removed it for now. Was causing bad frame dips too
Lights were like crazy white lines
vivid rune
I removed it for now. Was causing bad frame dips too
Removed as well , will play SDR till a fix
rose blade
Needs R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size upgrade
Worked fine, thank you! I noticed that with DLAA the background flickers like crazy, not sure if it's Reno causing this or the Ultrawide fix that i applied at the same time.
brave aurora
@dusty girder totally forgot about a way out dump. Have you looked at that one? No old lutbuilders there too, just one new
stoic yoke
It should just be `b8g8r8a8_typeless` `output size`. For me, I get a brief flash...
really weird
same as you but its also red in game
same res max settings same upgrade same file
i am just starting a fresh game and when i can control my character my screen is red
no other upgrades or anything
indigo plank
Hmm try skipping the tutorial and start on a different map and see if that changes anything
stoic yoke
ill do a clean install tomorrow when i wake up and ill try another map yeah
indigo plank
Also send screenshot of Reno settings
Ill see if I can reproduce on my end when I’m home later
indigo plank
Yeah I got that one and two others
indigo plank
i am just starting a fresh game and when i can control my character my screen is...
Just to make sure I’m understanding correctly, this was happening in the tutorial area / cutscene?
stoic yoke
yea both the cutscene and the intro tutorial area
tulip kayak
west canopy
Hm well on lootbar it loads up a android emulator session in which you log in an...
hey can you help me out with this via DM?
visual ice
hey can you help me out with this via DM?
Ya sure thing
west canopy
what the heck nte giving me this
oh i see im not the first one well hopefully we didnt get flagged for ban lol
balmy sleet
got to change Reshade name to dx12 whatever it was
visual ice
Rename dxgi.dll to d3d12.dll
west canopy
yeah yeah, thing is i used that pack that was provided d3d12.dll but the dxgi was still there 💀
tulip kayak
Man the boiling without RR is insane for me
turn RR off
just dont use it
boiling is a feature
visual ice
boiling is a feature
It's actually not that bad when you don't focus on it 
Better to have boiling than no hdr
dusty girder
<@664732951724032001> totally forgot about a way out dump. Have you looked at th...
forgot about those
fluid valley
I've gotten this from Wuwa before
tulip kayak
@dusty girder so funnt thing
it does use the custom lutbuilder
only in menus where you look at the character
lmao
nte: works with gay reconstruction now
stone bear
Mr. President they reconstructed the gays
dusty girder
only in menus where you look at the character
ah another game did that
you can prolly just leave it as vanilla and pq encode or something simple
unless the cbuffers carry over and you can like force ue filmic idk
tired sparrow
except my reshade UI is like this :D...
any idea?
UI was fine on previous addon
tulip kayak
unless the cbuffers carry over and you can like force ue filmic idk
I feel like I can force it, all of the cbuffers from the other lutbuilders are present
dusty girder
I feel like I can force it, all of the cbuffers from the other lutbuilders are p...
you can also set the cbuffers to static values
tulip kayak
I'll put it in the NTE folder since it's not a traditional lutbuilder
dusty girder
like find the default filmic values
tired sparrow
actually it seems fine after restart, it bugged when i was toggling RR i think
dusty girder
and just do like
blackclip = 0
whtieclip = 12
etc
give it a try wit the old cbuffers
dusty girder
also iirc that lutbuilder smples a sdr lut
so double check that the lut sampling is the same
but that shouldnt be a hard fix
dusty girder
maybe I'm thinking of something else
worse case scenerio you just force ue filmic
with default paramaters
its a menu anyway
tulip kayak
its a menu anyway
kk one more thing
left is how it should look
right is how it currently looks
looks like a encode/decode issue?
dusty girder
might be
probably is
looks srgb encoded
btw
ue 5.5+
they branch
so you'll need to add the code twice
tired sparrow
RR not as bad with some RCAS 🔥
dusty girder
line 323 + line 1233
tulip kayak
which shader are you talking about
dusty girder
lutbuilder_0x8C21FCA8.ps_6_6 (1)
ctrl+f 0.0613
there are two untonemapped ap1
let me show you an example
Ctrl+f UECbufferConfig in that file
see how I run ProcessLutbuilder twice?
also I think the cbuffers are going to be fine
tulip kayak
ya the cbuffers are exactly the same in the custom one
dusty girder
ya the cbuffers are exactly the same in the custom one
yea, it might look a bit different
but its a menu so who cares
since they dont do UE Filmic
they do some sort of weird custom tm
tulip kayak
btw
only see one 0.0613
in the custom lutbuilder
and the lutbuilder i patched yesterday
guess they didn't branch this
dusty girder
yea
the others ones
didnt branch
only this one does
btw @indigo plank did you remember about new UE5 games branching in your PR; so you have to run ProcessLutbuilder twice?
ohh you also have to remove ExpandGamut twice @tulip kayak
tulip kayak
welp
dusty girder
basically some of the newer lutbuilders
are like 2 in one
its dumb a.f idk why
they have like a branch
tulip kayak
ohh you also have to remove ExpandGamut twice <@221530925849116672>
so any lutbuilder that does two ap1
dusty girder
and then the branch does everything twice
tulip kayak
you'd also have to do
dusty girder
so any lutbuilder that does two ap1
I mean you'll see
dusty girder
I mean if it has 2 expandgamut
you gotta output twice
fi you have questions just ping me
but yea
these newer lutbuilders are dumb a.f and branch EVERYTHING
tulip kayak
can't wait for 5.8
dusty girder
I think in older versions it was a preprocessor #if or #ifdef
now they changed to a regular if
so it gets compiled into the hlsl
tulip kayak
--flatten --skip-existing --use-do-while --structural
dusty girder
after the untonemapped ap1 color
tulip kayak
you can delete all the code
yeah since ur only using
dusty girder
since we return
tulip kayak
the cbuffers
dusty girder
wait you dont need to add the filmic block
why add code
unless you mean the cbuffer config
dusty girder
ah yea thats all you need, and the code above it
tulip kayak
in the nte folder
dusty girder
yea for now
I doubt any other game uses it
if another game uses it, I'll move it out
basically after untonemapped_ap1, just commennt everything
but remember there are 2 branches so be careful
glossy cipher
did you make your own preset? or what is that python file reference there? xD
tired sparrow
did you make your own preset? or what is that python file reference there? xD
no
not sure wym
indigo plank
btw <@122128769245773826> did you remember about new UE5 games branching in your...
Newest one in my PR was 5.4.4, so I didn’t look for it
dusty girder
5.4 prolly doesnt do it
dusty girder
well
dunno
but yea makes sense
all of filmic is missing
just go in the ue source
and find the default filmic paramaters
I dont have an epic acc so idk
bt its somewhere there
dusty girder
same
tulip kayak
I wonder
dusty girder
I just seen snippets
dusty girder
I mean
the values are in the source
unless they tuned them
chances are they're the default ones
you can use canvas
to output all the cbuffers
vivid rune
Does a fixed version for indústria 2 gane is already available ?
dusty girder
white clip feels low
also set tone curve ammount to 1.f
since that cbuffer is probably bullshit, and not actually tone curve ammount
dusty girder
@tulip kayak
tulip kayak
<@221530925849116672>
ya already testing
dusty girder
since its just a menu and not agmeplay, it just has to be "good enough"
glossy cipher
not sure wym
in your image the DLSS indicator that shows the preset E is followed by a reference to a weights.pth, I guess it's like some python file for some AI model stuff
dusty girder
is that a ui shader?
dusty girder
it draws to the composite that you already patched
yea, thats what a composite shader is
in sdr all the seperate ui shaders
draw to the swapchain
but when a game is in native hdr or ini tweaks
all of them draw to a composite or blit shader
why are you interested in it?
tulip kayak
ya i'll need to patch it
dusty girder
a ui shader does that?
tulip kayak
yeah
dusty girder
the composite shader should fix it
maybe there is a diff blit or composite shader
no idea
tulip kayak
this is the only shader before the composite shader
i'll do some decode/encode memes
dusty girder
mess around with it
remember to add the gaurd rails
for hdr path
try just doing srgb::DecodeSafe() on svtarget.xyz
that will have the shader output linear instead of srgb
charred solstice
didn't spi say he was going to game instead of code?
dusty girder
thats what we all say
messing with individual ui shaders shouldnt be necessary, but fuck it; weird chinease gacha game
requires wierd solutions
charred solstice
k let me boot it up
charred solstice
dusty girder
i found a youtube video
thats what I do
tulip kayak
thats what I do
there's a couple games where you patched the output like shf and stalker
what was their issue btw
might be facing something similar here so need to check
gritty sparrow
Hmm, this game I recall being better saturated before I updated reshade and grabbed the latest renodx for unreal so I'm not sure where I'm going wrong here. For instance, the world isn't blue at all and in game it looks washed out. it also doesn't have hdr native in the game btw.
covert moon
Cant get NTE to work its super washed out unless i put upgrade on thats its doubly cursed saturated.
Followed the "bomb" instructions to a T and using the latest rr friendly build.
Any advice/ideas please?
im using clean engine ini and reshade ini from the "zip bomb" post and correct paths/read only attribs. rr on/fg on/dlss on 4k fullscreen win11 5090
covert moon
roger that everything is off its ultra washed out
i do use renodx in tons of other games with transformative effect
charred solstice
viewing jxr is....a challenge
but it will happen if you have upgrade path on in renodx
covert moon
sorry how should i upload here? what works best? i know jxr preservs hdr so you should see what im seeing
upgrade path is off
if its on
its ULTRA deep fried
this is on (broken)
tired sparrow
you can take a hdr .png screenshot with reshade
covert moon
Lads insanity. Screenshot taken with reshade looks good.
upgrade path off
in reality its gray
covert moon
i just found out that screenshot taken with reshade looks good
but what im seeing looks like the jxr screenshot
covert moon
let me disable nvidia overlay. oh wow it looks good for a split second then goes gray on alt tab
tulip kayak
i just found out that screenshot taken with reshade looks good
then paste it here?
tulip kayak
let me disable nvidia overlay. oh wow it looks good for a split second then goe...
lmao
okay buddy
do you have rtx hdr turned on
charred solstice
that might happen. i ws looking at the nvcpi profiles...they threw a lot of unnecessary stuff in there.
covert moon
it was the global rtx hdr on despite being disallowed explicity for nte! had to toggle off in game profile nvpi settings
thank you so so much!
WOW does the game look good now
as always renodx is transformative
charred solstice
nice catch, spiwar on a roll, with catching obscure troubleshooting issues.
covert moon
thank you very much!!
rustic lichen
LUTBuilder for Conan Exiles (UE Extended) and the fixed version of the same shader from the regular Unreal Engine RenoDX.
indigo plank
tyvm i will later
should be fixed. it was a minor spelling mistake
dusk orchid
@dusty girder is there anything i can do/provide to you that would help with UE-Ext support for Industria 2? defs too pretty a game to play without HDR 😢 Atm it causes some visual craziness with lighting and reflections
tysm 🙏
dusty girder
there's a couple games where you patched the output like shf and stalker
@tulip kayak shf had no issues, it was just to comment out their film grain; because extended film grain is better
stalker2 was because they had a custom contrast/saturation system that ran in the output shader; so ritsu returned early before that code would run
tulip kayak
<@221530925849116672> shf had no issues, it was just to comment out their film g...
kk
yeah the issue is decode memes
tulip kayak
so they have an output shader that draws to a UI shader -> draw to the patched composite shader
dusty girder
if its 1 composite shader
you can just change that
the only issue is
the char menu right
tulip kayak
so when the resource gets passed into the composite shader it should be in linear right
since all the UI stuff is decoding correctly
dusty girder
so when the resource gets passed into the composite shader it should be in linea...
no
ui should be in gamma, and scene in pq (+ bt2020 colorspace)
scene becomes pq via lutbuilder; since we end on a pq encode
tulip kayak
ui should be in gamma, and scene in pq (+ bt2020 colorspace)
yes if you're in the game hence why if im not in character menu it works fine
but in this character menu the whole thing that's being fed into the composite shader is considered UI
which is why its borking out like this
dusty girder
even if it was UI, it should still look fine
part of the composit shader is gamma -> pq
tulip kayak
dusty girder
you know the composite shader
toggles both scene and ui
its not just ui
does disabling "tonemap under UI" do anything
tulip kayak
nope
dusty girder
you know what it might be
ini tweaks disables a certain blur shader
in the UI
its considered a bug, but usually not a big deal
tulip kayak
like, the scene being drawn underneath the UI still looks correct
tulip kayak
I just need to reverse whatever the lutbuilder is doing encode wise
for that one output shader
tulip kayak
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::color::bt709::from::BT2020(SV_Target.xyz);
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::color::correct::GammaSafe(SV_Target.xyz, true);```right
dusty girder
you prolly dont need the gamma safe
but give it a go
I guess it doesnt hurt, since UI should be in sRGB
charred solstice
its considered a bug, but usually not a big deal
That's probably it. There's another area I see that in the game outside of char menu. but it happens even in vanilla NTE (with hdr output=1), no reno
so it's even UE is screwing up whatever custom stuff was done
dusty girder
it doesnt have to be custom, some games just dont play well with ini tweaks
like code vein 2 I played with ini tweaks, but
the only issue was
tulip kayak
I guess it doesnt hurt, since UI should be in sRGB
Do you clamp in the composite
dusty girder
the text had a bit of artifacting due to the missing ui blur shader
dusty girder
Do you clamp in the composite
no
intentionally
in the sdr path I max channel to peak for overshoot
tulip kayak
Well shit i dont know whats clamping my char screen then
dusty girder
all the functions are safe though
?
ui is usually 0-1
there shouldnt be any clamping since theres nothing to clamp
white coral
So I’ve been gone for a bit has there been updates to nte ue extended?
tulip kayak
there shouldnt be any clamping since theres nothing to clamp
Well its for the 3d part that gets drawn to the UI
Right now its capped exactly at 200nits
dusty girder
@regal kayak had a game where the menu had to be in bt709
linear
vs. pq
maybe he can help you idk
regal kayak
white coral
Is there an updated mod for nte?
tulip kayak
no
charred solstice
Is there an updated mod for nte?
but yes
#1411800884303626311 message
white coral
Ok thank you
charred solstice
so renodx NTE is like 95% complete now more or less.
covert moon
#1411800884303626311 message NTE build
#1411800884303626311 message state of decay 2 build if you accidentally like me grab that one some text will be 10k
charred solstice
yes 10k nits....
I think there's so many places to hunt them, it might be just be what it is
devout grove
some menus are washed out
dusty girder
some menus are washed out
if thats the new gacha game; spiwar fixed that; just be patient
tulip kayak
but yes
https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1411800884303626311/149...
should have said no smh
cheers
charred solstice
Marat able to recongize NTE screenshots now without even installing the game lol
covert moon
yeah all characters are dark-gray, sorry to report, clearing the cache gonna try again
tulip kayak
one extra line I forgot to delete
dusty girder
delete the old addon
tulip kayak
NTE - final patch
dusty girder
NTE - final patch
are you ready for the mod to break with every character update
or event
tulip kayak
are you ready for the mod to break with every character update
wuwa just had an update
surprisingly
they didn't nuke all the lutbuilders and the output shaders
dusty girder
usually post process gets left alone, but I dont trust asian studios for shit
charred solstice
The devs said they going UE5.7....is that a new lut? or can UE's use whatever LUT they want?
tulip kayak
kek w
dusty girder
The devs said they going UE5.7....is that a new lut? or can UE's use whatever LU...
if its just lutbuilders thats a 5 second fix
charred solstice
o, well cross fingers
i mean minor stuff breaking is totally fine, the game is pretty varied in random stuff anyway.
I think spi spent way too much time fixing a background shader
tulip kayak
better to have the slop properly patched
and have a proper playthrough
before i uninstall
snowflake game using 2 lutbuilders
dusty girder
I think spi spent way too much time fixing a background shader
learning experiance
tulip kayak
learning experiance
appetizer
wuwa has no composite shader in its hdr path
pq encode x9000 time
rustic lichen
Uploaded the wrong files before, the LUT Builders for the current version of Conan Exiles before the update drops (dumped from UE Extended)
dusty girder
wuwa has no composite shader in its hdr path
thats .. not right
did you add the use composit ini
or is it some sort of custom hdr path
dusty girder
Uploaded the wrong files before, the LUT Builders for the current version of Con...
no old?
tulip kayak
or is it some sort of custom hdr path
its just stock ue
rustic lichen
it had none of them
dusty girder
Uploaded the wrong files before, the LUT Builders for the current version of Con...
// bookmark
conan exiles
rustic lichen
the original Unreal Engine RenoDX has one of those
dusty girder
I'll get to them tomorrow or so
dusty girder
the original Unreal Engine RenoDX has one of those
that doesnt help me
tulip kayak
but lot of thing is custom for some reason
tulip kayak
so maybe not surprising if they're doing some slop for their UI
dusty girder
so maybe not surprising if they're doing some slop for their UI
I think its a weird option
borderlands 4 or w/e jon made
also had a srgb ui in hdr
with a proper native hdr slider
wait wuwa
idk
if you enable the composite shader, there should be one
covert moon
@tulip kayaksorry to bug character selection screen gray with latest build world isnt
that one latest #1411800884303626311 message
balmy sleet
covert moon
a you issue
sorry could you explain to a dumbass please, everything else works i did clear shaders
dusty girder
usually stuff like sharpening, grain, dof, etc change up the output shader
tulip kayak
sorry could you explain to a dumbass please, everything else works i did clear s...
have you somehow turned rtx hdr on again
dusty girder
oh yea
with upgrade path off
if ini tweaks arnt done right
you're just going to trigger rtx hdr/auto hdr
covert moon
roger im on full rt
dusty girder
not just RT, all the other etc settings too
also just to be safe
delete all the other addons
and re-download the new one
dusty girder
try using a different character spiwar for memes
tulip kayak
try using a different character spiwar for memes
i... haven;t gotten far enough into the game for that
devout grove
NTE - final patch
car shop still washed out with this version
dusty girder
now that you wrote the fix
upload the version in your game folder
maybe you griefed people
dusty girder
car shop still washed out with this version
are characters good?
devout grove
yeah but chars were fine in the old version too so was a non issue for me
dusty girder
spiwar needs to find the car shop
or you need to find the shader for him
its a copy and paste fix
tulip kayak
car shop still washed out with this version
i already booted up wuwa lmao
covert moon
thank you very much for helping - character selection is still somehow gray but everything else works. tried any combination of settings and definitely latest build and cleared shaders. weird i see it works for you in vids screenshots.
ill take the L idk what else to do heh - its perfectly fine as it is for me
devout grove
huh devkit just crashes the game
covert moon
it worked in previous versions funny enough the char selection wasnt gray
tulip kayak
huh devkit just crashes the game
sdr upgrade path off
dump lut shaders off
devkit crashes with dump lut shaders on
wheat brook
@devout grove fsr + native works for me, if quality it become washed out
dlss not sure tho
devout grove
oh it was dump lut shaders
devout grove
@tulip kayak car shop shader
dusty girder
final version = black screen for me
turn off upgrade path and restart
covert moon
lads im very embarassed to write this but i just want a psa for .. someone. rtx hdr off yes but debanding to low causes gray issues on character selection for me - i thought with rtx off debanding would have no effect. sorry. thank you.
with both rtx hdr off and debanding override to off everything is perfect, thank you
dusty girder
you should make this block of code a function
inside the NVE folder, make a file name nve_common.hlsli (include postfx.hlsli inside of that folder, and then include nve_common inside of the nve shaders)
and make a function named something like
SV_Target.w = SV_Target.w;
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::color::pq::DecodeSafe(SV_Target.xyz, RENODX_DIFFUSE_WHITE_NITS);
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::color::bt709::from::BT2020(SV_Target.xyz);
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::color::correct::GammaSafe(SV_Target.xyz, true);
SV_Target.xyz = renodx::tonemap::neutwo::MaxChannel(SV_Target.xyz, 1.5f);
return SV_Target;
}
that way inside of the actual composite shader you can just do this as the last line
if (PROCESSING_PATH == 0.f) {
SV_Target = ProcessNVESrgbOutput(SV_Target);
}
I might have another way to patch it that doesnt require me to touch those shaders
dusty girder
I might have another way to patch it that doesnt require me to touch those shade...
you can do it in the lutbuilder
tulip kayak
you can do it in the lutbuilder
I cant
tulip kayak
The lutbuilder is still used for the game
dusty girder
The lutbuilder is still used for the game
oh yea fuck
tulip kayak
Patching it to not bork menu then it breaks the game
dusty girder
yea, its still used for the game
I wonder if the sdr path works with the patched lutbuilder
but then you cant use FG (+ potential issues)
the black spots where probably from the lutbuilder drawing over the game doing some sort of bullshit
tulip kayak
some menus are washed out
what's the ETA
to the car shop
if you're starting the game
for reference i am here
devout grove
oh if you already have acess to the city you can prob just go there
it'll be a blue car icon on the map
charred solstice
to the car shop
Around 1hr of 1st time playthrough. I wouldn't worry about it. Buying cars isn't an often thing. Though if it's the same for racing menu, ya might annoying someone.
there's a ton of these random grey menu, and strangely enough sometime day/night cycle messes with it
I don't know why it's so persistent
tulip kayak
it'll be a blue car icon on the map
dafuq
im here
i talk to this person
where tf is the car screen
charred solstice
it's a quest chain to get started
intro to tycoon
can't buy car until a certain rank
tulip kayak
lmao jesus
charred solstice
the gov said you're too young to drive but not too young to goto jail
charred solstice
Around level 7 I think
it takes a bit, you need to open up tycoon with chiz, then you need to level up tycoon with a bit of mini questings tutorials
tulip kayak
@devout grove
try this
didnt even touch that shader you sent
if this works then it should work everywhere
dusty girder
what u do
tulip kayak
there was a shader that draws before the composite shader
I just patched that instead
tulip kayak
Its just a ui shader i might have sent it here b4
It doesnt do anything other than srgb encode
dusty girder
ah
devout grove
<@103594601327116288>
fixed
tulip kayak
@dusty girder i'll just drop another pr if you dont mind
dusty girder
ya
pr
just make sure
you actually test stuff
like moving game nits and ui nits and making sure it works right
and shit
also if you still need to fuck with the output shader
if you dont rename it to like .hlslx so it doenst build
or delete it
reef badger
I think this new file fixed everything, I was still having the character screen issue and its fixed now
achievement screen was also washed out, fixed now
dusty girder
merged your pr +
nick
thanks guys
btw you dont really have to undo gamma correction, gamma correction is "just contrast"
as long as you pq decode and bt709 from 2020; you're "linear"
probably doesnt hurt though
tulip kayak
probably needed in my case
tulip kayak
with SDR UI emulation on
dusty girder
dusty girder
with SDR UI emulation on
ah
tulip kayak
it's applying gamma correction twice if I dont undo it
dusty girder
wait you're right
hdr path does gamma correction seperatly
on the UI
either way in about ~1.5h github will finish building your PR
so you can just link to the ue-extended snapshot
and write a simple guide for people to follow
make sure to put the download link on the bottom
so people have to read the post
and not just download + close page
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/494
you can just copy and paste my code vein 2 post
tulip kayak
make sure to put the download link on the **bottom**
inb4 people dont read it anyways
dusty girder
I actually need to edit the link in CV2
to use ue-extended
its on its own seperate mod which is on old ass code
its still ue extended but without 5000 changes
dusty girder
inb4 people dont read it anyways
at that point their loss
also github discussions are really good for SEO
charred solstice
renodx is for the ultimate enthusists anyway. more casual folks would have just turn on RTX HDR post some screenshot on reddit.
tulip kayak
@dusty girder yeah there's no composite for wuwa there's like 5-10 different stuff drawing the UI when you open it
tulip kayak
pls just get rid of the uid and ping
So you dont need crash solution for dlssfix
Just need uid and ping hide right
Got it
charred solstice
why not just use shadertogger if you want to hide some UI stuff? reshade is right there.
twilit lantern
@dusty girder lutbuilder for Assetto Corsa Competizione with UE Extended. I just selected both, not just _new, since I didn't know which one you'd need. I hope I dumped them correctly with in-game HDR on...
lutbuilders for Assetto Corsa Rally with UE Extended. This one just had a blackscreen during actual gameplay so idk what was going on.
west canopy
Shouldn't we make a dedicated thread for NTE?
Seems like this is the place to get up to date about it rn?
And we got RR since when? Toggle in game or outside?
shell igloo
rr was ingame day one
charred solstice
rr only appears when RT is turned on so people miss it
but it auto RRs when you RT
vital knoll
anyone got banned with Marvel Rivals yet?
rapid vigil
vital knoll
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3440390/Drunkard_Simulator/
i tried all upgrades combinations, no luck, what do i do now? only R10G10B10A2_UNORM works but it's SDR, without it the game black screens
west canopy
but it auto RRs when you RT
So I don't have to click anything?
So it's like pragmata
indigo plank
i was using Extended
Dump lutbuilders with extended
vital knoll
i think it doesn't matter now, it crashes even with lowest settings
vital knoll
Dump lutbuilders with extended
can u tutorial how to dump things? i see in devkit Dump Shaders, is that it? i did it but idk where to see the file or what
nvm got it
wait wdym lutbuilders with extended? currently having GenericUE and devkit causes crash at startup
untold wadi
In generic/extended UE advanced settings there's a "Dump LUTbuilders" option
Turn it on, play the game a bit and you'll find a renodx folder beside the exe with the shaders
vital knoll
bruh it really crashes, but here it is
seconds in the game without generic/extendedUE it doesn't crash, weird
also when i have them on, changing settings almost guarantees crashes, is there also a fix for games that crashes with the generic/extended addon?
untold wadi
You using devkit with it?
vital knoll
no, just using the UEaddons itself
vital knoll
bruh it really crashes, but here it is
this is UExtended
balmy sleet
Dont know why the x botton is the only ui thats bugged
quiet skiff
does NTE work with this?
vital knoll
actually it does, the cat guy adds shaders or something with the UExtended.addon
spiwar
visual ice
Dont know why the x botton is the only ui thats bugged
The interaction button bugged out too for you?
shrewd badge
actually it does, the cat guy adds shaders or something with the UExtended.addon
The cat guy kekw~2
tulip kayak
west canopy
any way we can improve the washed out gamma look in the UI? it looks like everything uses UI shader setting including characters etc
glossy cipher
any way we can improve the washed out gamma look in the UI? it looks like everyt...
this is the fix no?
#1411800884303626311 message
west canopy
hmm i guess i can use systemwide 2.2 gamma and disable the reno gamma fix
west canopy
this is the fix no?
https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/14118008843...
i think this is the one I just got today? is there a new toggle or something?
glossy cipher
try to check the convo, I think they talked about the grey wash character screen
tulip kayak
any way we can improve the washed out gamma look in the UI? it looks like everyt...
There is no washed out look
west canopy
oh yeah there are UI options but hmm still looks weird
west canopy
lol ok 😂
but characters are still clamped to whathever you set in the UI slider tho
in my case 80 nits
they don't get any hdr treatment?
tulip kayak
Better yet use rtx hdr
west canopy
is sdr really even worse?
omg my eyes, i just toggled the addon off. does this match the sdr?
i take everything back
I think i just got used to ZZZ's pure black menu backgrounds and it's hdr inclusion, to what little good it did
tulip kayak
i take everything back <:kekpepehands:1409649023870173377>
i dont think this is accurate, check my image
west canopy
ah, this looks just fine for sdr