Unreal Engine

[dusty girder]

nah I got everything

there is prolly a max(0 in a post-fx shader after the lutbuilder

might be a simple fix, but somebody would need to go in with the devkit

it seems all the black is out of gamut

@maiden flicker if you crank saturation up, do you get more black?

either way use the other mod, somebody can fix the post-fx one day

[maiden flicker]

nope

[dusty girder]

turn off upgrade copy destinations

and restart

[maiden flicker]

they are already off

[dusty girder]

oh one last thing: what if you set

lut strength to 0

and create a scene change (so settings apply)

and lut gamut restoration

if the other mod works, it prolly has to do with lut sampling

but there isnt anything special here

[dusty girder]

the sliders arnt real time

you need to do a scene change

wait nvm you did

no idea

[warm pewter]

The game launcher is updating in dial up internet speed for some reason 💀

Ah its Sunday

[dusty girder]

one second

I think I found something

let me try something for fun

@warm pewter @maiden flicker try this build out please

[dusty girder]

still broken rip

try this

upgrade b8g8r8a8_typeless and b8g8r8a8_unorm to output size

and restart

if that doesnt work upgrade r11g11b10_float to output_size

whats happening is the mod is making the game wnat to go outside of rec709/wcg; but something isnt letting it

[dusty girder]

also send reshade.log if you can

also enable "upgrade copy destinations"

wait quick question

if you set the tonemap type to SDR

is it still black?

@warm pewter

ontop where you pick tonemapper, set it to sdr (and refresh scene)

[warm pewter]

Still black

[dusty girder]

okay if sdr or off is still black

that means its an upgrade issue

does the game let you do ini tweaks?

[warm pewter]

Yep (With some workaround)

[dusty girder]

okay in the reno mod, set upgrade path, and turn the game off

add this to engine.ini

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

if engine.ini doesnt exist, create it, and after you add those lines, save

after you add that, turn the game back on

[warm pewter]

Trying this next with upgrade path off

[dusty girder]

yea upgrade path off, turn game off, do ini stuff, restart game

[maiden flicker]

U have to set it read only, or the game will override whatever in it

[dusty girder]

yea set it to read only after adding the lines

something is griefing it, idk what

[warm pewter]

This is what I had earlier

[dusty girder]

uhh

remove the lumen stuff

just to be safe

and put only this in

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

then save and make it read only

you already turned upgrade path off right?

[warm pewter]

Yup the game will encrypt the inis

But does load it fine

[dusty girder]

those ini tweaks make it kind of like a native hdr fix

[dusty girder]

do the sliders work

like saturation and shit

[warm pewter]

UI Brightness no longer affect game brightness compared to what I have tried before

[dusty girder]

yea I need a shader

for that

I can teach you how to get it

but

does stuff like contrast work?

[warm pewter]

Color Grading sliders works

LUT Sliders doesn't

[dusty girder]

lut sliders not working doesnt matter

did they do anything before?

[warm pewter]

Nope

[dusty girder]

so the reason its going over peak (10k nits) is

prolly missing a composite shader

what I need you to do is

delete ue_extended

or move it out of the folder

https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-devkit.addon64

download the devkit

load the game with only the devkit

and get to that scene

and then click "dump all", then zip up the dump folder and send me it

I wonder why the regular unrealengine mod worked but not this

the regular unreal engine mod was prolly clamped to bt709; so the postfx shader after it didnt clamp to bt709

if you guys could get me a PIX capture of the game, I'd be able to fix it prolly

[dusty girder]

@stiff loom do you plan on playing whatever gacha game this is? it has a shader after the lutbuilder thats probably a 5 minute fix

that just needs to go srgb and back to pq

[stiff loom]

No

If it is not Nikki I don't care truthfully lmao

[dusty girder]

fair

you're the only person who plays gacha games and knows reno

I think @tulip kayak too

ohh I think spiwar mentioned it

[stiff loom]

I play like two specific gacha games

The other stuff I just got memed into doing for others lmao

[dusty girder]

Spiwar, if you want to make a mod for the game, unreal extended already does 99% of the work; you just need to find the postfx shader after the lutbuilder and send me it; or look at stalker2 on how to fix it

(pq to srgbwith tonemap, and srgb to pq with upgradetonemap; the functions are already there)

and then PR the fix to the ue-extended repo

[dusty girder]

ok lets see

this might take a bit

[dusty girder]

the composite shader appraently already exists, just blit is missing

if somebody actually went in with a devkit, this would be a 2 minute fix

[tulip kayak]

Ill play on launch

[dusty girder]

but try this out @warm pewter -- does the UI slider work?>

[tulip kayak]

Its like

3 days

[dusty girder]

ah

[tulip kayak]

Before shit launches on global

[dusty girder]

everything works, its just there is a shader after

you just need to do like pq to srgb and back

and job done

[south pecan]

it works

[dusty girder]

does peak nits work properly?

[dusty girder]

I'm interested in this scene

[dusty girder]

did you do ini tweaks and al that?

[south pecan]

I will take a look there, wait a minute

[south pecan]

I already do the ini tweaks but as you can see characters seems washed out I don't know why

[maiden flicker]

did u set it readonly?

[south pecan]

yeah

Also, I want to know if the DLSSFix for this game actually works — why is the light source still flickering after I applied it, just like it was in WW?

This makes me have no choice but to give up using RenoDX in these games.

[maiden flicker]

setting mode to advanced

upgrade path to off

[maiden flicker]

with FG? expected if SDR upgrade to HDR, even with dlssfix, game can still crashes

[south pecan]

Yes, with FG — so does that mean it can't be used together with FG?

[maiden flicker]

@dusty girder i think it works

[dusty girder]

read instructions above

[dusty girder]

nice peak doesnt go over user peak?

like in the other pic it was 10k nits before I added the BLIT shader (what fixed the UI)

@tulip kayak false alarm, game might work just fine (with ini tweaks, sdr path has something broken; theres a max(0 somewhere or something isnt upgrading)

[maiden flicker]

it does? briefly

[south pecan]

seems fine right now

[dusty girder]

something here is making it go to 10k nits in a few pixels

but as a whole the game looks fine

[maiden flicker]

yup

[warm pewter]

Currently outside can't test right now but can you go to the police building on bottom right of the map where you start the game?

That place is pretty wonky

the big tower

Like Arasaka Tower

[dusty girder]

either way mod gud for now, whenever the game comes out spiwar will prolly dig through the other issues

[maiden flicker]

it comes and go too, im not even moving

[dusty girder]

there is a way to get rid of the 10k nit pixels, but I intentionally leave it in the HDR path

ohh I think its the text

thats prolly easy

[warm pewter]

Its the speech bubble

[maiden flicker]

oh yea it is the speech

[tulip kayak]

Ill playing like 1 day at most if this game is trash

[dusty girder]

sometimes in the ini path, the text draws onto a seperate swapchain

you just have to encode the text to PQ with UI nits as the scaler (decode from sRGB)

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/4a1a386e8838a054c07702c8b2d5e08931f922c1/src/games/ue-extended/games/lostsoulaside/objective_text_0x9DF67A35.ps_5_x.hlsl#L37

make sure to wrap the custom code in if (PROCESSING_PATH == 0.f) { so it doenst run in the SDR path

[dusty girder]

kek

[charred solstice]

btw are you guys playing in lumens or RT/PT?

[maiden flicker]

RT

[charred solstice]

try to check going in and out of the char screen in lumens and RT. when I was messing with it, it had some oddness between them.

I snooped around a bit with devkit, but I didn't really know what I was doing

[maiden flicker]

such as?

[charred solstice]

Reno swapchain didn't seem to affect it affected it differently.

[charred solstice]

DLSSfix doesn't support RR, it will crash

[dusty girder]

if you use the ini setup I posted above

you can use RR, FG, etc

just make sure to read instructions

[charred solstice]

thanks Marat, I was actually expecting day 1 funk with the game, cause I knew it didn't map well on ue-generic. You've solved it before it even came out.

[dusty girder]

enjoy, all these lutbuilders eventually add up and make games work day 0

without me having to add anything

[glossy cipher]

Remember that DLSSFix is only for the normal Reno UE version
right now you talked to the UE-Extended branch of the work
DLSSFix is not working with UE-E, since those flickers should not happen at all in UE-E to begin with

If you could help the UE-E dev out, then you can use Reno for this game, just need to find the bugs together

[warm pewter]

Thank you ❤️

Other than

• Some UI Elements reaching 10k Nits
• Some UI Transparencies
• Game Brightness Slider not affecting Characters
• Character Screen Broken

Everything else worked fine now 🔥

-# Screenshot taken with PT Mode

FG also 👌

[glossy cipher]

@south pecan ^^^^^^

[brave aurora]

any news on these ones?

[south pecan]

many thanks for your info bro

that helps a lot

[south pecan]

So does that mean if I use UE-E for other games (such as WW) that would also work? That way I wouldn't need to use DLSSFix.
Unless I need to use the features from the RenoDX mod of the corresponding game's branch.

[west canopy]

have you tried it with extended?

[balmy sleet]

The mod works for this game but DLSS fix does not

[west canopy]

nah dont need dlss fix

you mean framegen fix?

[balmy sleet]

Yes

[west canopy]

game runs fast anyway dont need it

[balmy sleet]

This game is cup limited in a lot of places

[west canopy]

lighting looks way better with RT on tho

the only issue i have is no RR, so i get a lot of noise in the trees

i can only get rid of noise in 4K quality mode lol

i tried all presets

[balmy sleet]

Disable in game denoiser with engine.ini use dlss M or L

[west canopy]

ooooooh I can??

HUGE! how to?

[balmy sleet]

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1
; Disables the primary Ray Tracing denoiser
r.RayTracing.Denoiser=0
; Disables denoising for Global Illumination
r.GlobalIllumination.Denoiser=0
; Disables denoising for Reflections
r.Reflections.Denoiser=0
; Disables denoising for Shadows
r.Shadow.Denoiser=0
; Disables Ambient Occlusion denoising
r.AmbientOcclusion.Denoiser=0
; Disables Screen Space Reflection denoising
r.ScreenSpaceReflections.Denoiser=0

Netmarble Game\STARDIVE\BigCat\Saved\Config\Windows

make an enigne.ini add that stuff and make it read only

[west canopy]

yeah already have it for lut updating

weird thing, its like the mod was borked before I added in the LUT update (UI brighntess was affecting everything)

but now it works normally. am i crazy?

[balmy sleet]

nah its just scuffed somtimes

the game had RR in the settings ini for a while but they removed it. It tanked performance anyway.

[west canopy]

hmm doesnt seem to work tho. i'm on L

noise seems about the same

[balmy sleet]

I think its working for me

[west canopy]

well the lut line does work, it didnt get deleted

what model you using?

[balmy sleet]

M 4k perf

[west canopy]

this is very low bitrate it actually masks the noise in the trees on the left

its more noisy than it looks in that area

i'll try M

[balmy sleet]

def works for me

[west canopy]

maybe it only works for reflections, i have issues with vegetation shadows?

can you test that?

[balmy sleet]

I might be missing something for foliage

[west canopy]

cant see the noise in screenshots tho

meh i'll just play in 4K quality i still get 75 fps

still a bit of noise to it but not bad

[balmy sleet]

Dlss RR is still in the GameUserSettings.ini dont even know if its on or not

[west canopy]

some things certainly do look a bit "experimental" with RT tho

[balmy sleet]

just checked does nothing

or near nothing might do something?

trees and shit will look like this far away

[west canopy]

It looks ok if I make a screenshot too but in motion it's all noisy

[balmy sleet]

I think thats more of a nanite problem

[west canopy]

It's the shadows being upscaled that causes it. The lower the input res the worse it is (it's why it's a denoising problem)

Interestingly the ini tweak did nothing for me but I'll try again mess with it some more

[balmy sleet]

It has this slop

[olive jacinth]

how to decode this？

[tulip kayak]

Last time i saw an UE ini being encrypted was in a porn game

[olive jacinth]

[tulip kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-awesome-gif-24299272

[olive jacinth]

it looks like base64 but...

maybe China server exclusive.....

[maiden flicker]

you dont

[crimson axle]

Is there a canonical location to find the latest version of ue extended? My google-fu is failing me with Discord search...

Ah, it's in marat's repo's releases. Duh.

[charred solstice]

It's UE5.1 and it is netmarble. So its half ass lumen system on half ass budget. This is also their odd LoD system working. its funky shadows is intentional to an extent.

[glossy cipher]

that is how it should be yeah, if a game doesn't work, you can come here and drop a dump.. so that the devs can integrate it into UEE

[tulip kayak]

um no

[tulip kayak]

i assume you mean wuthering waves

then no

it wont work

[glossy cipher]

why not oh wise cat?

[tulip kayak]

you need to patch 20+ output shaders for every wuthering waves patch

and not just the lutbuilder

its custom enough that it has its own mod in the first place

the devs uses unreal's lutbuilder but completely skips unreal's grading

plus for unreal extended you'd want the game to draw a composite shader so you just need to patch that shader for the entire UI to be unfucked

wuwa doesnt do that

so you will have to patch every. single. UI. shader.

[tulip kayak]

for every patch

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[glossy cipher]

Ah good to know
sounds exhaustive
then I guess DLSSFix is still to be used. What happened to the promised update for that anyway? 🫠

[south pecan]

thanks for the explaination

[stark steppe]

you can always use DLSS Enabler for MFG if DLSS Fix is not working well

replaces DLSSG output with FSR output which is compatible with Reno

[dusty girder]

@warm pewter maybe @tulip kayak can fix the 10k nit text, its like 2 lines of code if he plays it

as for the char screen being broken, no idea

but enjoy

@brave aurora can you please re-dump the finch lutbuilders using unreal-extended; and then upload the entire folder as a zip (with both old and new lutbuilders)

can you share a pic of the "broken char screen"

[dusty girder]

@crimson axle the latest version is always this: https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

releases might be behind a few versions, since releases only happen once a day

Its just not pinned anywhere here since I need to make a seperate thread; I've just been super lazy

[viral lintel]

I'm playing thru with RTX HDR right now and it might be the best use of that tech that I have seen so far. the game looks great this way

[dusty girder]

ty

no old lutbuilders

guess we're going to put the slopper to work

[dusty girder]

@brave aurora I dont think I'll be able to add Finch any time soon, its a weird older version of unreal with no blue correct

the codebase isnt setup to handle those yet

if there are more lutbuilders with no bluefcorrect, I can prolly branch off to compensate for them

but for now sorry its a rip

ue filmic extended is made for games that use the "modern" ue filmic tonemapper; which is most games now

it still runs filmic, just no blue correct

adding some simple logic to handle no blue correct shouldnt be a big deal, or even forcing blue correct which should be better

[west canopy]

Is this game like an actual severely underrated hidden gem?

I'm noticing it's a got a lot more soul and life than other gacha slops and then I check the developer - but of course, it's not Chinese but SK, that's why it doesn't suck!

[tulip kayak]

🤏

[dusty girder]

actually I might be able to get these soon ™

had an idea

[charred solstice]

umm no, stardive is 100% gacha slop. It is netmarble after all. It just happens to have a passably creative enough team that worked around their seemly shoe string budget. Everything about it is going to feel like it's slightly off, from maps being just straight tunnels, to PS2 interact to parkour, to stuffy skeleton like animations, to it's lottery like game play grind.

"Charming" is an often used word for it, or put it bluntly, the team made a pretty great attempt at a write off game. You can find a fun time in that, but don't expect a return on investment so to say.

[west canopy]

Yeah that seems likely pretty damn accurate 😞

But I still enjoy it much more than I did wuwa and slopfield!!!

[charred solstice]

I enjoyed it a bit, but my brain was screaming warning signs

I really enjoy DNA as well, but you can also go so far on vibes

Endfield...still eating with a crazy budget, I stick around for that, because I know every 6 weeks or so I'm treated to a holywood popcorn.

[west canopy]

wait, am i getting this right, or does this game let you entirely skip the stupid grind? @charred solstice

if it does, that is a huge W for me, I am so tired of gacha instance grind. it was so slow early in wuwa and i didnt enjoy the combat i quit that one immidiately, for example

(wuwa also had terribly long loading screens between each round, which was a horrible wasting your time feeling, Mongil at least has instant loadings)

might be a charming shallow gacha slop, but can't deny the incredible qol it offers

[charred solstice]

they are changing it I heard, but well just throw a few more hours and you'll see

[west canopy]

changing for the good or the bad?

[west canopy]

well at least the early few hours are very enjoyable compared to others i played where it was mostly "when does tutorial end and the fun starts" (and i never got to that part)

[charred solstice]

eeeehhh idk if you vibe with it that's great, there are a lot of defenders of the game. but it will 100% get old fast. The team did what they could, but you can really tell they only had so much to work with before it devolves into bait and switch slops content.

[west canopy]

Yeah I was kinda fearing that was going to be the thing

[dusty girder]

have there been any like

big and actually good gacha game releases

I guess wuwa

so is it just genshin and wuwa, and then smaller clones that die off

[charred solstice]

It's pretty saturated and competitive market. The people who can field a big budget and survive is rare. Endfield has yet to show it's staying power, but it made enough to go black, and continues to slap money on the table every patch to move up the ladder (seriously all other criticism aside, it's a visual wonderland of human labor)

NTE joins in 2 days, but it's a fair bit smaller budget i feel, but still in the realm of AAA gacha level quality. I am 80% sure it won't reach genshin dominance, but it might become a cult following like wuwa. It is totally weeb level pandering, and knows what it wants to be. There's probably going to be a fandom that respect that, as long as they keep excuting.

[tulip kayak]

its saturated depending on your niche

if you want peak visuals

and triple A real time cutscenes

then wuwa

NTE guess i'll see in a couple days

combat/challenge focused then ZZZ could be interesting

i dont care about pre rendered slop so endfield is out of the question

[charred solstice]

50/50 chance you'll like it. At the very least you'll know if you vibe with it or not very quickly. It really focuses on a certain niche, and makes no attempt to pander to anyone outside that niche. Quality wise outside of that niche is....eeeeeeeh.

NTE made me laugh hard though

[tulip kayak]

i played tower of cum before

they had real time cutscenes

if nte is anything like that

it'll be an interesting 1 day

at least

real time + directed = good popcorn

[charred solstice]

I think spi has a 5090? at least you can PT(?) the game

the early benchmarks look harsh

[charred solstice]

NTE isn't combat focused, it just kinda does the job. It's ok, but probably a bit dispointing. It's boss battle designs are pretty good though. very fancy.

[dusty girder]

the prettiest gacha game I've seen is

infinitti nikki

the dress up one

[charred solstice]

is it? It does look pretty nice, but can't say it's that much of an eye candy. Models are well done though, as expected of a dress up game.

[dusty girder]

the world too

Maple shared a ton of pics

the pc version atleast

the phone/console versions are obviously far off

[tulip kayak]

yeah that one's pretty

[tulip kayak]

sounds fine

[charred solstice]

well infinite nikki does have RT

[tulip kayak]

good set pieces

[dusty girder]

doesnt it have full PT?

[charred solstice]

NTE?

[tulip kayak]

IN is built ground up for lumen

then non lumen path is an afterthought

[dusty girder]

ah

[tulip kayak]

hence why it looks absolute ass

on phone

[dusty girder]

yea maple showed me how ass it is on phone

[charred solstice]

NTE i can say 80% it's PT. I just pre downloaded the Global, and try to do r.pathtracing=1. It did not crash and took it, where in cbt it would crash with that cvar

whatever "full raytracing" is for NTE, it's definitely more then regular RT

IN is HWRT i believe from what I remember

[warm pewter]

NTE Global Launcher does something weird with the game that make ReShade stopped working and make RTSS Overlay Crash the game

CN Doesn't have these issues

Launching the game from HTGame.exe runs fine but Webview won't works
-# CN Does prevent launching from HTGame.exe though

[warm pewter]

Loading ReShade via DisplayCommander works

Rename DC to d3d12.dll
And ReShade to ReShade64.dll

[charred solstice]

renodx is all screwed up with GL launcher but not with HTgame.exe. we'll see once it actually loads the game. the GL launcher even back in co-ex test was annoying, as it would act like a 2nd anti cheat at times.

[shell igloo]

renaming reshade to d3d12.dll works with NTE global btw

no need for DC sideload

[warm pewter]

ReShade d3d12 doesn't work in Global for me for some reason but worked in CN.

ReShade complained about not having a Direct3D proxy device, and RenoDX just unloaded itself afterward.

But DC Sideload worked for me.

-# Try the normal way first to see if it works for you, I guess

[slender palm]

The PT part is only for sun/moon light GI and reflections as far as I can see

The game is okay but way too grindy for a mobile game, I think they were originally planning for this to be a mmo considering how bland most of the characters in it are as well

other light sources aren't working at all

[charred solstice]

IDK what you're talking about. there's no standard for a mobile game or what creative take you think the devs have for. But no, it was not originally developed as a MMO, we have very good notes and shall we say, chatty NDA signed streamer leaks over the years during NTE's development, to know this. I think you're misunderstanding "hotta quality" on your own theories.

As for PT...also no. There's no standard for what "Path tracing" is...and in fact hotta calls it "Full raytracing". But it does have Direct lighting, which is where path tracing is is usually advertised, but until we get on global and start investigating, I can't say for sure what is and isn't used.

what your image is showing is the hero model pass. It's pretty hard in UE to do a pass on movable skeletal mesh, and in anime theme, it's even tricker. They are excluding the hero models from the lighting pass, and then add a custom pass of the model. This is standard in games, especiall UE games, and in beta test, was even worse.

NTE from what I see is already putting in significantly more work then what UE lets them on their hero models for lighting...it's...hard to say the least, a lesser anime game would go the usual route and straight up ignore it.

this is what is happening basically on the last beta

[tulip kayak]

no its showing the game compromising and not using direct lighting for all source

which is fine and whatever

but call it like it is

you can have non shadow casting lights to save on performance

its not related to anime games or especially UE games or whatever

[charred solstice]

IDK about that, I've been trying to fix this for UE games since forever, and every post, dev, and cvar relates to how UE does things

[tulip kayak]

every game uses non shadow casting light to a certain extent

raster is expensive

[tulip kayak]

this is just another case of that

not related to UE

not related to anime games

i can show you 100 examples of games using non shadow casting lights

[charred solstice]

no, there are games that actually oopsie and turned it on...results are pretty darn horrible. I would show you but I've already long uninstalled the game. I've cast them onto it before. It was incredible horrible, and crashed shortly after.

you really need to put in a ton of work, and not just a toggle.

[shell igloo]

meimei gonna enable shadow cast on all NTE lights

[tulip kayak]

sigh

[charred solstice]

It's a dream, but sadly, any UE game i've tried...led to horrible results. Cope with capsule shadows and stuff.

[tulip kayak]

how do you think point light shadows are generated

[charred solstice]

if you want to give it a go, feel free. anything raytraced, vsm, or so on, the model is always excluded. It's not like UE can't, and I've done it, it just blows up. It needs work, and in most cases, they just add their own cope shadow, in one form or another.

[tulip kayak]

ya you're fundamentally misunderstanding the problem

its not that they can't do it

[tulip kayak]

it's that they won't

this is why we have RTXDI

which they didn't use

[charred solstice]

I can't confirm or deny, but NTE is heavily suspected to use RTXDI, the underlying cvars leads us to suspect it, but who knows. Laz says all CN games have some bizzillion custom rt setups on their UE games. It might be a wonder they don't call it PT.

[shell igloo]

is nvrtx branch updated to 5.6? i don't remember

[charred solstice]

correct, no 5.7, which maybe why NTE is 5.6.1

[shell igloo]

iirc they said they were targeting 5.7 for... this summer? and 5.8 later in the year

or fall/early 2027

[charred solstice]

yaa...where did that rumor even come from? I can't find the source, it does seem to be the case, they're chasing features that aren't ready in the nvidia branch

[shell igloo]

gtc talk about the future of path tracing

[tulip kayak]

the point of rtxdi is to have large number of light sources all cast dynamic shadows

would be stupid to have RTXDI

and do nothing with it

[shell igloo]

sorry, this one instead https://youtu.be/so9lm3hAHes

[charred solstice]

how you say it, is great, but historically that's how UE games turn out, it's not like "oh it's definitely performance related". That's probably not the whole story, since it's such a common theme in any UE project.

[shell igloo]

so they have 5.7 up now https://github.com/NvRTX/UnrealEngine/tree/nvrtx-5.7
so it's 5.8 for later this year

[charred solstice]

I mean "Hotta quality" is a meme for a reason, those devs are crazy weeboos that can't project manage for their life. they might actually chase and ground their game to buggy death

This is assuming NTE is a good and is a success, for them to keep funding these technical upgrades, which is unknown.

They definitely improved the hero model lighting since last beta, that's like a only a few month difference.

I didn't expect them to, but they did.

but whatever, back to OG topic. Not surpised, seen it, been there, expect it to keep happening.

[dusty girder]

does extended work with the global release?

[charred solstice]

splash screen, seems to work. It seems they have some unstandard cache folders, which took using the launcher to purged, to get it to play well. I expect the same results in game with the CN release, they basically have one user folder setting for CN and one for GL, which is where the issues might be.

but the UI text might annoy a few people, if it was a problem you mentioned. Apperently the game makes liberal use of that shader for localization of in game textures all around the game.

[dusty girder]

5 minute fix for anybody that knows a lil about renodx

and can go in with the devkit

I just dont want to install the game

I'm not a fan of the super questionable anti cheats those chinease gacha games ship with

[charred solstice]

I'm sure someone will, or I can make an attempt at it, if it just hunting it down and clamping(?) it?

[dusty girder]

if @tulip kayak downloads it, here is an example shader on how to fix the text from antoher game:

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/4a1a386e8838a054c07702c8b2d5e08931f922c1/src/games/ue-extended/games/lostsoulaside/objective_text_0x9DF67A35.ps_5_x.hlsl#L37

decode pq with graphics nits being the scaling

and then in the end encode pq back

[charred solstice]

question. Not sure if it's in GL, but the char screen in beta, refused to HDR10, and stuck to being scrgb for the game? is that the same issue or different?

[dusty girder]

no idea

scrgb shouldnt even be a thing in ue5

[charred solstice]

k, i'll deal with it if it's a thing.

I didn't know crap about how to renodevkit back then

[dusty girder]

you go in the devkit, find the list of pixel shaders, play with the draw toggle

when you find the shader that makes the white text appear and disapear

that means thats the shader responsible for the white text

if you can find that, I can prolly fix it

[charred solstice]

that part i sorta knew, but I didn't know how to read what the shader was doing, I assume you just insert a hlsl code in renodx to make it play nice?

[dusty girder]

you can send me the shader

but it has to be the shader responsible only for the white text

not other ui elements

[charred solstice]

kk, yep, i hate it when the shader has multiple things

[dusty girder]

there will be a few shaders that make multiple ui elements disapear

those are composite shaders, you're not looking for that

you want the text only shader

unreal draws every ui element individually

[charred solstice]

but ya, there's probably going to be ton of request for NTE, since it's the new fancy anime graphics things on the channel, but if what they're saying is true, and they're just going to keep updating the engine to 5.7 and 5.8...I wouldn't bother too much with it, as long as it's passable HDR. Too much effort to fix the funk that often.

[dusty girder]

lutbuilders are easy

5 minute fix

I want all of them anyway because

1 lutbuilder can cover 50 games

[charred solstice]

lol then maybe it's a good thing, don't see much UE5.6 games and probably zero 5.7

[white coral]

im trying to use the unreal engine mod for Neverness to Everness but apprently it has some form of anticheat that blocks it. is there any way around it?

[charred solstice]

I assuming CN build. what are you trying to do 1st of all? the anti cheat is pretty standard ACE.

[white coral]

Just setup hdr and no, it’s just the preload for tomorrow

[charred solstice]

install reshade 6.7.3 with addon, into the HTgame.exe folder

go into that folder and rename dxgi.dll to d3d12.dll

put the marat ue-extended addon64 in same folder

[white coral]

Ok thank you. Does anyone know if a dedicated hdr mod is gonna be made? I can donate if need be

[charred solstice]

goto your user/appdata/local/HT/stuff/stuff/saved_global. Make a blank .txt, and rename it to engine.ini, and paste in the above cvar settings into it. saved, and make engine.ini read only.

if you get funk, make sure you go into the launcher settings and purge the cache

[charred solstice]

to @tulip kayak i guess? spi at least is humoring an attempt at looking at the game.

ultra plus...side...umm...laz doesn't have plans. and ue4ss is hard with anticheat.

[white coral]

I guess, I have no idea who actually makes the mods. I would do it myself but it looks super complicated

[charred solstice]

I'm going to look at it, but it maybe a wash, as in beta, RTquality had it's own custom pipline.

refused almost everything I did to ue side

[white coral]

Oh and what cvar settings?

[charred solstice]

think of it as system level console commands, that UE allows users to change. you will see them posted on reddit time to time.

[stiff loom]

only the phone version tbh, PS5 is the only console release of IN and that runs with the PC high settings + TSR with DRS (or PISSR if you are on PS5 Pro), and it also uses the same assets as the PC version (Mobile gets lower quality assets too lol)

So it gets Lumen GI and Reflections

[charred solstice]

UE4SS will be key to getting mods beyond that.

[tulip kayak]

Current plan is to integrate and have the game just work with ue extended addon

its mostly working

outside of random shit

dedicated mod depends on whether the game actually needs it + if someone wants to actively maintain it

[tulip kayak]

mention nikki and maple appears like a sleeper agent

[stiff loom]

I mean I was tagged here lmao

[white coral]

@tulip kayak so basically just wait for the ue mod to be updated then?

[charred solstice]

is nikki that good? I haven't kept up with it, and while it was decently pretty, it was a far cry from top of the line lumen from what I remember.

[tulip kayak]

UE extended is already updated to work

we have lutbuilder from the chinese version

[charred solstice]

this one as pertains to NTE HDR

[white coral]

Ok thanks a lot I’ll try it

[stiff loom]

It's not what I would call top of the line Lumen, especially the HW Lumen path as they did some custom funky shit to it, but out of the gacha slop with RTGI, I think it's probably my favorite one in terms of visuals.

Do keep in mind that while the game never got updated out of UE5.4, they kept adding new custom shit to it

so it does look a bit different now than what it did back when it released

[stiff loom]

Whatever custom amalgamation NTE is, sure looks more impressive in terms of GI than IN though

[charred solstice]

oh, nice, so they tried to push pass the limits of UE5.3 level lumen

[stiff loom]

(at least on that full RT mode thingy)

not really my cup of tea though, so i can't say I'm too tempted to take a look at it myself.

[charred solstice]

Lumen vs whatever RT/PT NTE is trying. It sure does push those limits
https://youtube.com/shorts/F7RtIAiB2BQ?si=8lIhqyBfSME9q7jv

can't say the same on texture detail though...IN does have very nice textures

[dusty girder]

you prolly want the actual latest build

[charred solstice]

did you put some more work into since that one?

so nightly?

[dusty girder]

idk

but the latest build is always this

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[white coral]

For the upgrades, how do I know which one to use?

[charred solstice]

RGB10A2 unnorm if remember right,

there's a screenshot if you scroll up

[dusty girder]

for the new chinease gacha game you probably want ini tweaks and "Upgrade Path Off"

[white coral]

Where do find these ini tweaks?

[tulip kayak]

ini tweaks is setting the game to output hdr swapchain

[white coral]

alright, so I made the ini tweaks and installed reshade like yall said. I think its working, wont know for sure until I can play the game tomorrow. hdr analysis says its in hdr but the slider dont update in real time

[charred solstice]

the splash screen is consider UI, so only the UI brightness would work yea

[maiden flicker]

It is not that good
Lumen -> RT (PT looks almost the same but sharper)

The game is very selective of what to reflect, so any reflection outside city areas looks dogshit (and also limitation of software lumen)

the overall lighting of the game looks the same from Lumen -> RT -> PT
only the reflections have the most differences

[charred solstice]

can't save meh textures, but even RTquality back in beta was better then HWRT, or even tryin out the experimental unreal Restir. Outside of Nighttime/rain, not much can save this game's middle of the road PBR. Just a matter of expectations.

but the biggest differences were the shadowing and coloring of RT, like in game rooms and interiors. Lumen does rightly sux vs per pixel lighting. (and when I say lumen, I mean HWRT)

[charred solstice]

speaking of...did they really hash the usergameconfig? I should have saved my old beta files then when it had the plain text cvars...

[maiden flicker]

not talking about the textures, just look at the reflections lol, the whole hill is bald in the mirror

[maiden flicker]

just use engine.ini and deviceprofile, they still work in read-only

[charred solstice]

ya it was the same in the beta, I think they were using nanite proxy probes. I thought i could fix it, but didn't spend much time in the end, to narrow down the issue

I'll poke more now the game is release, but ehhh....I feel like it maybe a wasted effort. I kinda get how it's all strung together, but there was a fair bit of custom UE-ing stuff going on

they were definitely piggy backing on the lumen pipeline and thus nanite as well, so there's some hope of deeper modding. But it's not like we want to drop the performance even harder then it already is in NTE

[warm pewter]

PT Looks fine until the bald hill came up but most area doesn't see it

It does reflect most objects but up until certain range

[stoic yoke]

if u dont mind me asking what upgrades should i use for state of decay 2 if you can remember

tested a few to output size but nothing has worked

[charred solstice]

try opening it with lilum HDR analysis, it should at least tell you what the game is running at. There's might be more, but at that's a start

[stoic yoke]

ya i have it up and im testing upgrades still but its 200 nits still

didnt wanna ask before trying myself

[charred solstice]

that was back in jan06? maybe best to submit new lut dumps since ue-extended has been released

well if it's still _new then that's obviously a red flag

[stoic yoke]

this game has no native hdr so i thought ue extended was useless here or is ue extended not just for being able to fix the native path?

and yea i most likely will later tonight

[charred solstice]

ah ue 4.12...well that's tough one.

I believe ue-extend has a sdr upgrade path, but no clue on games that old, since it's likely shader 5

[stoic yoke]

state of decay 2 lutbuilder

[dusty girder]

did it dump with any old lutbuilders

please dont upload only new lutbuilders

[stoic yoke]

none yet but ill keep playing the game tonight

to see if more drop

thats the singular one i got

[dusty girder]

did you dump with extended or the generic one

[stoic yoke]

generic

didnt know if extended was worth using with an sdr only game

[dusty girder]

extended works with sdr only

out of box it works just like the generic one

with upgrades and all that

[stoic yoke]

i can use extended then

[dusty girder]

native hdr functionality is a bonus

yea

but extended doesnt have that lutbuilder either, so you'll have to wait for me to add it

its 3am so not rn

[dusty girder]

// bookmark

[stoic yoke]

could u link to the latest extended again sorry i had the direct link before but im on a different pc rn

i know its on ur github

[dusty girder]

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[stoic yoke]

tyvm

and no problem take ur time

ty @charred solstice for reminding me to dump the luts

[dusty girder]

if you keep playing and dump an "old" lutbuilder along side the new one, that would save a ton of time

[charred solstice]

question, is your old guide for ue-generic luts still relevant on the ut extended?

[dusty girder]

what do you mean

which one

think of both addons as the same thing

both ue-generic and ue-extended are the same thing

[charred solstice]

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1408905465697669271 this guide

[dusty girder]

ue-extended just has all the color stuff re-written so it looks better

[dusty girder]

yes

but

thats just fixing decomp errors

as for fixing a lutbuilder, its very different

[charred solstice]

ah k

[dusty girder]

but takes 1 second if a game dumps with an old lutbuilder

[dusty girder]

also ue-extended supports games with native hdr on, so you can take advantage of the game creating an HDR window versus upgrading resources; which is more stable on newer unreal engine versions

[indigo plank]

I honestlt don’t remember if I ever PRed the state of decay 2 lutbuilders

I should have them all still I can send or fix for UE extended tomorrow

There’s different lutbuilders for each map and each time of day

[dusty girder]

ping me when you do, github doesnt send emails when somebody makes a PR

[stone bear]

NTE should work day1 with the UE-Extended addon right?

[stone bear]

Ok, can confirm it works fine for now

Just needs R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size upgrade

and d3d12.dll as proxy, dxgi.dll triggers anticheat

[charred solstice]

If you are using the engine.ini properly, you should not need that as upgrade path option should be off.

[stone bear]

what .ini tweaks do I need?

[charred solstice]

if you need RGB10A2 to see the splash screen, it means you're doing something wrong, and using the SDR upgrade path, not UE extend path

[stone bear]

the standard ones for HDR in UE?

[charred solstice]

edited, cause I didn't read spi's post right
#1411800884303626311 message

yes

you add it to appdata/local/HT/blahblah blah/saved_global if GL and saved if CN,

oh you also need [/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

since it's a UE5.6 game

regardless of SDR or ue extend

The color should be slightly very different if you did it right, since trying to RGB10A2 a HDR image...would look incorrect

[stone bear]

Should I add this into Engine.ini or the obfuscated GameUserSettings.ini?

[charred solstice]

make a Engine.ini file

also make it read only after you pasted #1411800884303626311 message in

[stone bear]

Ok it works now without Upgrade Path

Thanks!

[charred solstice]

cross fingers when we log into the game tonight and it all works.,

we know there's some possible issues

[white coral]

what are the possible issues?

[charred solstice]

May or may not still be an issue

[stark steppe]

I've seen all these bugs in the cn client

doesn't really affect gameplay though

[charred solstice]

well taking it one step at a time, won't know anything till we get into the game. The game is being constantly updated in prep for the server opening.

[tulip kayak]

aaaalllright

[stark steppe]

how goes it, wise cat

[tulip kayak]

i'll drop a patch to fix the 10k nits UI soon

works as expected

NTE RenoDX HDR Package
4 files inside

• reshade.ini
• renodx-ue-extended.addon64
• d3d12.dll

Put these 3 in
(your install path)...\Neverness To Everness\Client\WindowsNoEditor\HT\Binaries\Win64

• Engine.ini

Put in
C:\Users\{your name}\AppData\Local\HT\Saved_Global\Config\Windows

Remember to Right click your engine.ini -> properties -> and make sure "Read-only" is checked.

aio zip bomb

[charred solstice]

hmm at least the on the intro, ue-extend...not working...

[tulip kayak]

intro is video

[charred solstice]

i'll have to see if I derped a setting somewhere

[tulip kayak]

unless you mean the real time section

UE extended doesnt have autoHDR for video iirc

[charred solstice]

no i mean actually gameplay, non of my color or brightness settings work, i may have derped somewhere

UI brightness works though

[tulip kayak]

i went past the intro it works fine

the included reshade.ini file

[charred solstice]

ok, me check if I derp my settings

[tulip kayak]

should turn off the SDR upgrade path by default

[charred solstice]

yep

[devout grove]

are you sure your ini is in the right place?

Saved_Global and not saved

[charred solstice]

yea, else you'll get a black screen without upgrade path

[tulip kayak]

ya both inis in the right place from guide above you should be ok

[vivid rune]

Does the mod works with Aphelion game released today?

[devout grove]

just looking at the build date but did you upload the right addon file in the zip?

UI going 10k

[tulip kayak]

yes

[stark steppe]

he said soon

[tulip kayak]

the zip bomb is with the marat's repo build

i haven't fixed it yet

lol

[devout grove]

oh ok

[tulip kayak]

snapshot is empty

[white coral]

I know this probably isn’t the best place to ask but I can’t get a response on Reddit. Is there not a way to disable subtitles on nte?

[devout grove]

lol interesting the sliders don't affect the characters

[charred solstice]

hmm even with spi's NTE zip dump, non of my color grading stuff works

[tulip kayak]

Is sdr upgrade path off

[charred solstice]

yep

[tulip kayak]

Honestly idk

[charred solstice]

using your ini as well...

well i'll figure somthing out, if i'm the only one with problems

[white coral]

Mine is working fine thankfully

[tulip kayak]

Dx11?

[charred solstice]

NTE so i see some _new luts, in non extended, I'm trying to dump it in ue-extend

I think marat mention something about that but eehhh..maybe it's just this area

[charred solstice]

Ah now it works after the intro, and of course the character is not reno it looks like

ok so some stuff

[dusty girder]

@tulip kayak turn off framegen

and in settings

enable the right device

devkit dont like FG

[tulip kayak]

ya

already got it

@dusty girder dump lut shaders

should make a renodx folder just like the old UE right

doesnt seem to be gworking

[dusty girder]

so

if you have upgrade path off

it wont dump

you need both upgrade path on +

dump lutshaders on

[tulip kayak]

bofuh

ok

[dusty girder]

so turn it on, restart, dump shaders

and then turn it back off

upgradepath controls swapchain::Use()

so when its off, renodx becomes a pure shader replacement mod

for maximum stability

I used to hide the lut slider when upgrade path was off; but people got confused

[tulip kayak]

bruh

[dusty girder]

?

[tulip kayak]

how did this game launch in china already

and people still miss lutbuilders

in the opening area

😭

[dusty girder]

well there was 1 weird lutbuilder

I didnt add

I assumed it didnt do anything

just came from a pre-comp

[tulip kayak]

I'll play for a little while

or maybe people just didn't read instructions

and play the whole thing

without hdr ini

[dusty girder]

some people played with ue-generic

since in the sdr path

there seems to be a shader that has a hard max(0

ue-generic doesnt leave bt709

since its upgradetonemap

but ue-extended would have these black blotches in areas that would be wcg

either way with all the features the game has, you want the ini path

the 10,000 nit ui shader might draw to the swapchain btw, it does that in a few UE games

so finding it might be easy

[tulip kayak]

its before one of the shader you patched before

decodesafe pq

bt2020 from 709

encode safe pq + graphics nits

done

[dusty girder]

yea

thats all you need to do

find the text shader

just make sure ui nits is the

scaler for pq

also wrap the code in

if(USE_PATH == 0.f)

use_path = upgrade path

so it only runs when upgrade path is off

throw the file in /src/games/[game-name]

and you can make a PR or send me the files, whatever you want

[tulip kayak]

ya I can just PR this

lutbuilder patching

can you just paste verbatim

i assume the cbuffer names are the same

[dusty girder]

yes-no

so

cbuffers are the same

throughout the entire game

just make sure

if the lutbuilder has sdr luts

you have to feed the lutsamplers and textures

into the ProcessLutbuilder function

[tulip kayak]

ya

[dusty girder]

and then also add the lutweights cbuffers

outside of that if there are no sdr luts

copy and paste

done

ohh and set expand gamut to 0.f

search for (1.0f - exp2(dot( (flattened sm6)

  // float _355 = (1.0f - exp2(((_337 * _337) * -4.0f) * cb0_036w)) * (1.0f - exp2(dot(float3(_341, _342, _343), float3(_341, _342, _343)) * -4.0f));
  float _355 = (1.0f - exp2(((_337 * _337) * -4.0f) * 0.f)) * (1.0f - exp2(dot(float3(_341, _342, _343), float3(_341, _342, _343)) * -4.0f));

copy the original line

comment it out

paste it

set the cbuffer to 0.f

[dusty girder]

the only difference here is I changed cb0_036w to 0.f

[tulip kayak]

ya

set gamut expansion to 0.f

[dusty girder]

yea

thats it

[tulip kayak]

something something gamut expansion bad

kk

[dusty girder]

specifically unreal's expandgamut

[tulip kayak]

so just normal ue-extended stuff patching

[dusty girder]

oh yea

nothing special

pretty much every lutbuilder is the same

kill expand gamut, find untonemapped_ap1, find cbuffers, done

[wheat brook]

my hdr looks like this gg hahaha

[charred solstice]

I only get 1 lut dumped in ue-extended

and sometimes wont even dump

is that game thing or ue-extended thing? or shoul I dump in sdr upgrade?

[tulip kayak]

dont worry about it

i have the lutbuilders already

[covert moon]

NTE with the UI brightness slider so we can dial down to 80 would be amazing!
Also, Far Far West came out - probably a bad idea to try renodx since mp and addons?

[dusty girder]

there is one weird lutbuilder I intentionally didnt add into the mod, you'll find it

dont add it; I dont think the game actually uses it

it doesnt have the filmic tm

0xC92E06C2.ps_6_6.cso

[charred solstice]

so i go dev kit to hunt down the reason characters aren't affected by reno?

[tulip kayak]

i mean u can if u want

i dont think u need to

[dusty girder]

yea both of those are a rip

those arnt ue-filmic

[tulip kayak]

char is just on a different plane

[tulip kayak]

wdym

not patched yet?

[dusty girder]

everything after untonemapped_ap1

is custom

and it doenst use

the unreal engine filmic tonemapper

so dont add those to the mod

in the beta 0xCF didnt run so it didnt matter

[tulip kayak]

or is it decomp

im using lazor's new decomp

[dusty girder]

its not a decomp issue

those are just not traditional lutbuilders

thats either something the game made for consolkes

and somehow made its way onto pc

or something custom

just because a lutbuilder dumps doesnt mean its used

[tulip kayak]

both of them are not traditional right

[dusty girder]

wait

one second

[tulip kayak]

csos if you want to take a crack at it

[dusty girder]

0xCF is fine

sorry

regular lutbuilder

with 2 srgb luts

lutbuilder_0x8C21FCA8.ps_6_6 (2).hlsl is the one thats a rip

dont add 0x8C2

I confused the lutbuilders

[tulip kayak]

kk

[dusty girder]

0x8C2 is something custom

or leftovers

sometimes a game dumps 20 lutbuilders, and uses 1 the whole game

might be console slop or something they experimented with

[tulip kayak]

we're still missing lutbuilders

since i had an area that wasnt working

but its likely only one of them then

[dusty girder]

I mean add one of them

and see

it should be a copy paste and done

just make sure to properly add the sdr luts

and lutweights cbuffers

2 luts = 3 cbuffers in lutweights

1 lut = 2 cbuffers
2 luts = 3 cbuffers
3 luts = 4 cbuffers
4 luts = 5 cbuffers

[tulip kayak]

• patched additional nte slut builders and text shader

[dusty girder]

did you test if it works

[tulip kayak]

nope

booting it up now

[dusty girder]

5head

share a build before testing

mind sending me the fixed lutbuilder so I can see

and ui shader

[tulip kayak]

oh yeah

gotta add that gate for the upgrade path

[dusty girder]

ya add that to the ui shader

[tulip kayak]

let me see if it works first

lol

[dusty girder]

unreal games re-use ui shaders so

maybe in another game, that same shader works just fine

so we dont want to grief it with pq encode/decode in the sdr path

[tulip kayak]

i wonder if they're doing something stupid

like that custom lutbuilder

is only used to draw the characters

I'll change that to a no-op and see

[charred solstice]

this is sounding complicated..is NTE not ue-generic friendly?

[dusty girder]

nah, it sfine

also what do you mean about characters

like a menu?

[charred solstice]

no the hero models

litterally is excluded

[dusty girder]

I doubt a frame draws 2 lutbuilders

if its doing something custom, it would be in the shader that samples the lutbuilder

[tulip kayak]

adding that in the game specific folder is fine right

already created one

for the text shader

[dusty girder]

yea

make a game folder, and throw the text shader in

[tulip kayak]

only enable text patching if not upgrade path

works

[dusty girder]

did changing that lutbuilder to no op do anything?

or just return 1 0 1

[dusty girder]

give me 5 min

in runescape

boss

[charred solstice]

i guess spi knows what's going on

[tulip kayak]

what is this

[dusty girder]

reset settings to be safe

[charred solstice]

mm, ya, it's was one of the above reported problems, i suspected it, but didn't know it was this severe, it's ok to a certain extent, but the more you color grade it the more it shows

[charred solstice]

I thought you found the issue? or is this something we need to hunt down?

[tulip kayak]

oh

you made me thought there was something wrong with the lutbuilders i patched

you're just talking about grading not affecting the characters here

[tulip kayak]

didnt do anything

[charred solstice]

well reno ya, nothing reno does affect the hero model

[dusty girder]

ok lets see

[dusty girder]

figured it doesnt run

[charred solstice]

so pop out the dev kit?

[dusty girder]

do you decompile with -f?

the text shader looks fine

I assume you tested it

[tulip kayak]

done

[dusty girder]

lutbuilder looks fine

you got the lutweights done right

nice job

[tulip kayak]

basic pattern recognition

[dusty girder]

if you use the devkit with a reno mod, something might break

do you have dechroma set to 100 or something?

[tulip kayak]

no the desaturation is intentional

i set saturation to 0

[dusty girder]

oh

[tulip kayak]

so the effect of the another shader drawing on top of the character

[dusty girder]

meimei posted this

[tulip kayak]

can be seen

[dusty girder]

I thought he ran into a bug

[tulip kayak]

yeah

looks like its caused by one shader

someone can look into what this does

I'll check it later

[dusty girder]

if it draws after the lutbuilder

might be a generic post_fx shader

[tulip kayak]

now imma just go play league of legends

[dusty girder]

just decode and encode

there are built in functions

look at stalker2

[tulip kayak]

im thinking of just doing a no-op on it

its causing the characters to not be affected by the lutbuilder

[dusty girder]

no idea what this is, hard without context

it might be sharpening or AA

done only on the chars

because of all the sampling

if you can force sharpening off in ini

it might disable that shader

yea this is 100% sharpening or AA

oh its DOF, atleast based on what shortfuse named stuff in GTA5

shortfuse ran into something similar in GTA5 enhanced

[tulip kayak]

I'll probably no-op this thing

[dusty girder]

just DM me when you got a PR ready

shader_injection.graphics_white_nits

[tulip kayak]

is there a difference

between using that

and renodx graphics white nits

[dusty girder]

a define

is just a alias

it makes it easier

we didnt use shader_injection

in ages

also you're supposed to

decode the sample

and encode in the end

that code isnt doing much

its doing pq decode with a scale of 10,000 (default)

then bt2020 from bt709

[tulip kayak]

ya

[dusty girder]

and then encoding ui nits

replace this with the define though

shader_injection.graphics_white_nits)

RENODX_GRAPHICS_WHITE_NITS

dont use shader_injection

we're not in the dark ages anymore

[tulip kayak]

ya i saw graphics white nits used in your lost soul aside example

but yeah

[dusty girder]

it compiles exactly the sme

its the same thing as doing

#define cap false

if(cap)
{

}```

[dusty girder]

lost soul decodes the sample at the start of the shader, and then encodes the output

but for white text it doesnt matter

did you move both the game nits and ui nits sliders in game

to make sure it scales properly

if it scales properly while moving both sliders, thats all that matters

[tulip kayak]

NTE - fix characters not being affected by grading

[dusty girder]

was a no-op on that shader all you needed

I mean if it works it works

[charred solstice]

umm now nothing works, or is it me again? let me check different areas

[tulip kayak]

ya

no-op

[olive jacinth]

me too

[shrewd badge]

UI brightness works nothing else i think

[tulip kayak]

everything works as long as you follow the instructions

[dusty girder]

did you test the font fix moving both game nits and ui nits

and making sure the text works just fine

[tulip kayak]

works

[shrewd badge]

If by instructions you mean engine.ini I have that already

[dusty girder]

nice

you can PR it whenever you want

[charred solstice]

earlier spi-build works, the character no-op...doesn't

do we need an extra setting somewhere?

[reef badger]

having the same issue, ui brightness is the only thing that works on that newest file

[tulip kayak]

record a video

with your settings screen open

ya'll doing something wrong

[wheat brook]

same here, only ui brightness work for me

[charred solstice]

also renodx is flickering when panning camera, almost like it briefly stop working

i wonder if r.lut.updateeverfram=1 fails for a sec

[fallen drum]

don't try this at home

[shrewd badge]

RT and Full RT seems to be hidden for some hardware it seems

Can only see Lumen with 4070

[warm pewter]

Full RT is pretty heavy even with 5080 on 1440p

[tulip kayak]

go somewhere else

[olive jacinth]

full rt, dlss performence, 4k, everything highest, 4090, 90fps

[shell igloo]

we love random whitelist bullshit

[reef badger]

yeah the performance is pretty rough

[olive jacinth]

oh forgot fg

[warm pewter]

Having to use FG on 4090....

That is like 45 Real Frames

[reef badger]

forget the 4090, having to use FG in an anime game

[olive jacinth]

full rt real heavy...

[shell igloo]

anime games can't be heavy?

[charred solstice]

brute force lighting can do that

[reef badger]

they can but i'd expedct more than 90 fps with fg

i have better performance in crimson desert with all the bells and whistles, i guess thats what im comparing it to

[shell igloo]

artstyle doesn't define performance
lighting techniques do

crimson desert doesn't even look that good even maxed with rr etc

[shrewd badge]

Someone on reddit said
8 gb nothing
12 gb lumen
16 gb+ rt and full rt

[shrewd badge]

ok

[jovial wren]

Except if you dont have an nvidia card

16gb 9070xt? 24gb 7900xtx? No rt cause fuck you

[shrewd badge]

[warm pewter]

Full RT (1440p)

[jovial wren]

Actually even for nvidia too its just 40/50 series allowed rt

24gb 3090/3090ti are locked out of rt 😭

[olive jacinth]

full rt 4k

[shrewd badge]

let me try opti spoofing

[jovial wren]

Opti spoofing can work if ur lucky but seems to be problematic for a lot of people to get working (including myself)

Being on an amd card i can get the spoof working enough to get ray tracing to show up but not dlss (and doing that for some reason deletes fsr3)

Someone on the same card got both rt and dlss working tho so idk it seem random as fuck how well it might work for you

[shrewd badge]

I got ray reconstruction popped up and my framerate is lower so it is working but there is no option to select for RT and Full RT

🤔

[charred solstice]

I just think ue-generic isn't equiped to deal with NTE, i guess if there's real interest it can be spun off.

oh well

I cope a bit with special-k sauce then

[warm pewter]

This build works

[shrewd badge]

thats some "high quality" reflections

[tulip kayak]

@dusty girder im probably gonna throw the custom lutbuilder through tonemappass

and then be done with this game

[mild thicket]

damn bro 💀 it looks terrible

maybe raytracing is not the way

[charred solstice]

that's SW lumen, i don't know why it's only in this scene

rip renodx nte

[tulip kayak]

ya

haven't even played this game yet

lol

why am i not surprised