Unreal Engine

[dusty girder]

I beat the game

I didnt dislike it

the cartoon sequences where cool

but I got a bit bored of mashing x

[restive rain]

And Wuchang was pretty great overall except for the last 2 bosses

[dusty girder]

the last boss was oneof the only chlallanging ones

[bold hawk]

Everything works now, thanks!

[dusty girder]

[zinc onyx]

definitely not in that department lol

[pastel sand]

Exclusive fullscreen and 10K peak brightness what theeee?!

[stray socket]

i tried to install Reno for Manor Lords with the latest snapshot, but I am just getting a black screen: (

[full zodiac]

Probably an upgrade thing. There's instructions on the github for when you get black screen in UE addon.

[stray socket]

oh thanks, will check it out later

Will try when I get home, thanks alot

[full zodiac]

My pleasure

[stray socket]

worked like a charm

[eager lynx]

@dusty girder have you looked into Super Meat Boy 3D demo ?

Full game releases 31st and it has a vanilla HDR toggle (though it's broken in the demo, works with engine.ini), I think it would work just fine with extended

But its native UE HDR isn't bad really

[brave gull]

I'm surprised this game is even unreal engine

I'm guessing this game isn't possible to mod?

upgrades weren't working but Pseudoregalia seems like it would be a game that wouldn't work at all

[still canopy]

anyone got screamer to work with reno unreal?

[alpine ermine]

About to start a new game (reanimal), I need my reno fix 🙂
What is the difference between shortfuse's ue addon and Marat's ue extended addon?

And which one would you advise for this specific game?

[desert heron]

I'll see what resources are required to upgrade specifically

[alpine ermine]

Well in the end I tried ue extend first, and as it was flawless I just played the game (never had so many crashes with this game.. had to force it in dx11 in the end to pass a systematic crashing scene).
I'm still open to know the difference between regular and extended, though!

[desert heron]

Timesplitters Rewind: Upgrade B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS
pause menu background will be clamped to SDR

[desert heron]

enable SDR grading bypass

final result:

and here's what it looks like without SDR grading bypass

[swift plover]

does ue extended support avowed

[fallen drum]

yeah, it works very well

[swift plover]

@untold wadi should the separate avowed mod be deprecated

[dusty girder]

@swift plover yes

a bunch of lutbuilder only mods are basically rip now -- outside of their auto application

wu kong, wuchang, avowed

ritsu told me I can kill off avowed long ago, but I never bothered setting anything up

since idk how or when ue extended will get merged

I just shared ue-extended when somebody asks for avowed

[swift plover]

is ue extended auto build

[dusty girder]

yes

shortfuse unpinned the link since

it confused people here, which is fair; I wrote up a shit post lmao

told me to make a seperate thread

let me find it

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[fallen drum]

idk, I played through the entire game with it

[upper lichen]

Maybe I need to delete existing shaders? I’ll give it a shot

[dusty girder]

idk, I know multiple people that played the full game with the ingame native hdr on + ue extended

@white stag put tons of hours in

if something is griefing, its not the addon

[white stag]

nvidia drivers messed with me at some point and updating them (which forced a shader cache reset) fixed it

[dusty girder]

didnt that just cause it to stutter

but yea thats a thing with all unreal games with ucache; sometimes it doesnt re-compile after a driver update or addon update

happened in code vein 2 too

[white stag]

well yeah, unplayably so

[dusty girder]

yea

[white stag]

might've been what they meant

[dusty girder]

yea

u+ enables ucache in games that dont have it

which might be another file you gotta delete and have recompile

[upper lichen]

after deleting caches, the game runs MUCH more smoothly and hasn't crashed in the past 20 minutes or so!

[dusk orchid]

Just another vote of confidence for UE-Ext in Avowed - played hours with no issues, looks fantastyc

[alpine ermine]

After playing Reanimal with ue-ext (still don't know the difference between ue and ue-ext, if someone would mind explaining it would be cool), I'm on Returnal. Even if HDR is natively supported and known to be good out of the box, I've tried with ue-ext out of curiosity and am happy to see a real improvement!

Although with ue-ext every pixel is in BT.709... I don't know if it's a bad or good thing 😄

[indigo plank]

It’s normal, 99.9% of games are authored for bt709

[marble hearth]

Just wanted to ask regarding Nobody wants to die. Is it right to use 2.2 Gamma?

[alpine ermine]

But with this game in particular, without reno you can see there is 26% BT.2020

[west canopy]

did you adjust the sliders or is this ootb? I also always found returnal a bit too dark... (console version)

[alpine ermine]

This is ootb, except peak brightness I've adjusted to 550 to match vanilla, for comparison purpose. With reno there is a nice gain in shadows details, compared to vanilla that is a bit crushed. Really happy with it!

[west canopy]

yep as i thought, I suppose it was the same with console version whiich is just always the worst version. such a shame for the sequel it will be console only

there is no gamma missmatch on this one right?

[alpine ermine]

Doesn't seem so (with or without reno), but I don't really know how to check that. I just can say the game (colors, brightness, contrast) looks great

[slim fractal]

Hi ! Does the UE mods works with the game the isle ?

[slim fractal]

It has an anti cheat so I guess not ?

[balmy sleet]

If the anti cheat flags reshade with plugin support then yes, no reno. There are some work arounds sometimes but those are use at your own risk

[coarse saddle]

Hi, I'm trying to run Atomic Heart with RenoDX and Optiscaler DLSSG, RenoDX (Reshade) as d3d12 and Opti as dxgi. My problem is that it detects the entire screen as HUD. If I remove RenoDX it works fine. Has this happened to anyone else?

[half juniper]

Has anyone been able to get this to work with Screamer?

[stark steppe]

have you checked if the framegen actually stopped working due to detecting the entire screen? I had the same experience in KCD2, but in fact it worked fine; it's more like Renodx causing the pink detection debug overlay to bug out

[tepid ridge]

Does Unreal Extended work on The invincible? I can´t find a wiki for that (I know generic does work) @dusty girder

[tepid ridge]

Also, any idea why I can´t get borderless to work properly?

[tepid ridge]

Ok yeah it was Reno indeed cause it had "prevent fullscreen" and "force borderless" both active. With just force borderless and after a reboot it works

[coarse saddle]

Seems is still working but like doubling frames cause hud is not processed

[twilit lantern]

what playnite theme is that

[tepid ridge]

It’s steam

Look up Millenium steam. Minimal Dark theme

[dusty girder]

@tepid ridge no idea, you have to try it

[viral lintel]

anyone use this with the callisto protocol? Was wondering if the game should be set to SDR or HDR using the universal Unreal engine mod and also within the game there is a SRGB, 2.2, and 2.4 color output.

[peak galleon]

LiS Reunion seems scuffed with reno UE, UI brightness changing the game brightness. Does seem to look ok with native hdr disabled.

Game is set to borderless rather than the fullscreen the native HDR requires. Native HDR on + reno = broken image with green lines all over it.

None of the LUT shaders say _new

[restive rain]

Native HDR in Callisto is pretty good imo, apart from lifted shadows, which looks like artistic intent

But I did notice that in some locations black floor gets lowered

Kinda like in RE2

[untold wadi]

Just doesn't update in realtime

[polar crest]

where do you guys get unreal extended mod ?

[swift plover]

game might be cursed with dpi scaling

try this

right click on exe -> properties -> change high dpi settings

[alpine ermine]

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[tepid ridge]

Ohhhhh interesting. I’ll check it out

[open fulcrum]

hello

this breaks the game even tho iam using the same upgrade
might it be cos iam on an amd sys

[autumn musk]

ue extended might work here

[dusty girder]

hifi rush is custom

ue extended might work as in it will run the ue filmic tm

but it will look different from their custom tm; how much different idk

[open fulcrum]

it worked

also any idea on how to inject reshade addon into outlast trails

someone managed to get it to work according to wiki

[autumn musk]

yea, but his point is not that it won't work

its that it screws with the intended look

more than usual at least

[deep wedge]

@dusty girder I'm getting this strange kind of light show in reanimal. not sure whats causing this and how to fix it

I did turn on dump lutbuilders and didn't get any new ones

[peak galleon]

didnt see that in my playthrough

oh are you using ue extended? just use the normal ue

[dusty girder]

that game has custom post process shaders that need fixing

[deep wedge]

didn't see this before. just noticed it today while going through this section after the recent update

I don't think these were there before

[deep wedge]

Normal one looks fine? I really like how ue extended looks though overall but i guess i'll give that one a try if this is broken

[peak galleon]

yeah normal works fine

[fleet vault]

hello, got this shader file of darwin's paradox

the game is clamped with renodx so idk

[dusty girder]

both unreal engine and unreal engine extended have that shader already in the mod

you probably just need to upgrade R10G10B10A2_unrom and/or B8G8R8A8_typeless to output size

[fleet vault]

oh alr let me try

[fleet vault]

ye it still doenst work

looks clamped

only ui brightness slider is working

and is affecting the whole image

and ye ik ue5 games sliders dont apply in real time

but still

[rustic lichen]

they do if you add this to the Engine.ini file

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[fleet vault]

tf even tho this game is ue5 it doenst have normal ue5 config folder

like no windowseditor thing

[rustic lichen]

AppData\Local\DarwinParadox\Saved\Config\Windows Make an engine.ini file here

just checked on Nexus

[fleet vault]

ye me too xd

ye sliders still dont work

and looks clamped

[rustic lichen]

sliders don't work because the mod doesn't work probably 😛

[fleet vault]

yep

[rustic lichen]

I was thinking about looking into Life is Strange Reunion

got a fix made with ReShade shaders currently

[dusk orchid]

lmk if you get anywhere - the 1000 nits hard clamp is v annoying :/

[dusty girder]

if its generic unreal engine; you just need the lutbuilers and composite shader for ue extended to work with the native hdr (assuming nothing crazy is going on)

the composite shader might already be part of the mod, since those dont change that often

[dusk orchid]

too out of it the other night to remember whether i actually tried reunion or only double exposure and true colors, but unless theyve had a major change in approach the HDR hard clamps at 1000 nits even when using RenoDX - not sure what i can do/what you'd need to do anything about that? if its like, custom mod level, then obvi not worth the effort

i would say that the native HDR, while not perfect, looks good for the effect they want from it imho regardless of whether its well implemented or not, so without the ability to stretch tonemapping past the 1000 nits cap, the level of improvement you can get from reno is quite limited (imho)

[rustic lichen]

The native HDR isn't bad tbh if your display doesn't go above 1000 nits. I'm at 800 so applying Pumbo's AdvancedAutoHDR tonemapper does really well. I was ready to release a preset to Nexus Mods then I started to think about how it probably wouldn't work for people with brighter displays.

[tacit cape]

I have just successfully implemented the extended UE5 addonn on StarRupture and the results are amazing. A game with a constant giant sun doing solar flares makes me mad how they even thought HDR wouldn't be such a game changer

But looks like another case of having to go back to main menu and loadgame to make any changes on the sliders :'(

The game doesn't come with a proper engine.ini file but it does have a GameUserSettings and I've also created an Engine.ini file with the LUT update everyframe line

they seem to be using a very up to date version of UE5 if I had to guess so I'm confused as to why none of the .ini's managed to make a difference :/

[dusty girder]

@rustic lichen @dusk orchid if you're ever bored, grab ue-extended, set the processing path to off, turn ingame native hdr one

-> test if the UI slider works (so we know if the composite shader exists)

-> then dump lutbuilders (turn processing path back on, and make sure native hdr is on)

maybe its just doing generic UE stuff, and if it is ue-extended can make it better

[rustic lichen]

👍

[tacit cape]

hey, @dusty girder , sorry to ping you directly but I think you're just the exact person that can have some insight into my situation. It was mostly your replies and long posts that helped me get so far

[dusty girder]

whatsup

[tacit cape]

Have you seen a new U5 game (starRupture, quite new as well) that works in all aspects except for not being able to do the real time slider adjustments?

[dusty girder]

oh thats not an issue

add this to engine.ini

[tacit cape]

ye ye so

I've added it

[dusty girder]

sec

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[tacit cape]

or rather, I created the file cause it doesn't have one originally. But I have it on the same folder

[dusty girder]

if engine.ini doesnt' exist, create it, and make it read only

make it in the same folder as gameusersettings.ini

[tacit cape]

Yeah, that's what I thought as well would be the solution

[dusty girder]

some games dont respect that ini tweak, so worst case scenerio no real time sliders

[tacit cape]

almost certain it's read only as well but let me double check

aww

I thought it was guaranteed

Sigh. Welp, the default values are already fantastic compared to the highly clipped base game

the game is about a literal sun bursting every few cycles and the sun is as bright as an overcast cloud with the original SDR tonemapper :P

funny thing is I read people sharing ini tweaks for performance related stuff

the game does allow to change render settings to improve performance on low end machines so I had high hopes it'd accept that bit :<

[dusty girder]

on the bright side you dont need to change settings that often

but in order for settings to update, you just need a scene change; and some games a scene change can be simple; you just like open and close your inventory

[rustic lichen]

cursed image lol

Processing on with HDR on

no new LUT builders though

UI slider works

[dusty girder]

if the ui slider works, that means the composite shader is generic UE

what if you set upgrade path to off

and restart

do the other sliders work, like idk contrast or dechroma

[dusty girder]

wait you have upgrade path set to on, ui slider will always work; we dont care about upgrade path on

set upgrade path to off, and restart

[rustic lichen]

that was for this step: -> then dump lutbuilders (turn processing path back on, and make sure native hdr is on)

UI slider also worked with upgrade path off

the color grading sliders don't do anything. Just need to find the upgrade sliders at this point and see what combo works (I'm assuming)

I can't get anything to work with upgrade paths on or off except for the UI slider in both cases. Even with everything set to anysize I get nothing

not even game brightness

same with the original UE addon

so the game has something special about it that doesn't want to cooperate

[dusty girder]

okay good

[dusty girder]

no

if native hdr is on

and processing path is off

its either one of two things:

1. no real time sliders because of the ini tweak

2. missing lutbuilder

[rustic lichen]

I wasn't using the ini tweak, just the native HDR in-game

[dusty girder]

the real time lut update ini tweak

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[rustic lichen]

[dusty girder]

even with native hdr you want that for real-time sliders

[rustic lichen]

yeah yeah, I'm a dumbass

[dusty girder]

all good

[rustic lichen]

I send that to everyone else lol

redo

[dusty girder]

but yea what you can do is set dechroma to 100, restart the game

(native hdr on, processing path off)

if the game is black and white, that means stuff works (outside of real time sliders; which might get fixed by the ini tweak)

[rustic lichen]

ok, I was just being stupid

everything works now

this was supposed to be my "just play the damn thing" game so I wasn't really trying to mod it much

used all my brain cells for Cyberpunk

thanks Marat for being patient

@dusk orchid have fun, it works with UE Extended

it's unclamped

[dusty girder]

@rustic lichen do me a favor, send me reshade.log with ue-extended from the game

so I can add life is strange 2 to default to native hdr // processing path off

I need the game's product name

[dusty girder]

ty

[rustic lichen]

I'll do Double Exposure as well. Games are nearly identical

[dusty girder]

Iris-Win64-Shipping.exe (Life is Strange: Reunion)

[dusk orchid]

Any luck with or desire to tru with double exposure and true colors? Maybs it's just me that's too dumb to make it work

[dusty girder]

I'll go add it later

[dusk orchid]

I can't gat that to not hard clamp

[rustic lichen]

I already have DE installed

[dusk orchid]

Pls lemme know if issue is my brain

[rustic lichen]

it was definitely mine

[dusk orchid]

Whys there no ditto emoji I need it badly xD

@dusty girder if the prior game(s) still hard clamp at 1000 is there anything I should try or supply you with? Or is it the stuff you were mentioning earlier?

Glad to hear reunion doesn't seem to have this issue

[dusty girder]

as long as a game uses ue filmic, ue extended will work

there might just be missing lutbuilders

I guess sometimes games run custom shaders post-unreal code; cant do anything about that

[dusty girder]

no idea

the 1000 thing might be a meme from the devs

if ue-extended works with the game you tested, and the game is ue5; that means its running generic unreal code

[rustic lichen]

Koklusz reported the 1000 nit clamp in his Double Exposure review

[dusty girder]

which after 5.3 unreal added variable peak; no more peak 1000 or 2000

[dusk orchid]

I mean while technically incorrect, the usual gamma stuff etc, the native HDR looks pretty great on a screen like my old c9

But on my current g5 it's pretty underwhelming

For an older gen OLED panel that hard clamp isn't much of an issueb

[dusty girder]

no idea, but enjoy; you have to turn processing path to off (and restart the game)

thats about it

also the ini tweak for real time sliders if you care about that

[dusk orchid]

Just seems so... Whatever the antonym of future proof is. Why hard code a value like that 😭

[dusty girder]

be happy they added hdr in the first place

[dusk orchid]

Yep sry this was in the context of the hard clamp of older games - actually v excite to boot up reunion with ue ext now ^^ 🙏

[dusty girder]

gl, ima go take my nap

are those games

actually good

[dusk orchid]

Depressing but trueb

[dusty girder]

I thought those where just lesbian dating sims

with no action or anything

just story

far from a marat game

[dusk orchid]

I mean yes basically?

[dusty girder]

I might have one of them froma bundle, let me see

[dusk orchid]

But they are amazing

I would say it's defs not my type of games

[dusty girder]

I have "Life is Strange 2"

[dusk orchid]

There is usually some sort of mystery and some sort of special mechanic that are v compelling
The characters and storytelling are top notch

[dusty girder]

I know the games are crazy popular

[dusk orchid]

I would see this series is defs the exception not the rule when it comes to enjoying this type of game

[dusty girder]

was just surprised a sadge no action game got so much hype

[dusk orchid]

For me

I loved true colors, that's probs my fave so far, I haven't finished double exposure or reunion yet

I've not played LIS2 I don't think

The numbering and naming is confusing bc diff studios have worked on diff ones

[rustic lichen]

Lesbian Dating Sim?

[dusk orchid]

I played the first on release when it was actually episodic and played the before the storm prequel as well - LiS1 is great too but true colors is peak for me

[dusk orchid]

🤣 I get why the impression from an outside perspective hahaha

I don't think it's 0% false but yah defs not the central point of these games xD

[rustic lichen]

They're good story games. LGBTQ positive but that's about it. You can be straight or gay in the games. It's mainly about dealing with your powers and following a story. Sort of similar to Tell Tale games I guess

the first one is a classic

[dusk orchid]

Sry, enjoy nap, hmu when you're back I wanna ask some more shit about the 1000 nit clamp

Lmk when you're free to harass 👌

[rustic lichen]

wow Double Exposure has a bunch of new LUT Builders

[dusk orchid]

Hard agree on the first being a classic, tho interestingly I've only once managed a second playthru, dunno why I always drop off. True Colors has become like a legit comfort game for me - I probs replay that yearly

[rustic lichen]

Life is Strange Double Exposure

Chronos-Win64-Shipping.exe (Life Is Strange: Double Exposure)

[dusty girder]

@rustic lichen does the UI slider work when native HDR is on and processing path is set to off?

[rustic lichen]

For Double Exposure I can't remember

let me jump back in real quick

yeah it does

[dusty girder]

nice

might be done with unreal composite shaders

until a new UE version comes out

set wuchang and the other life is strange game to default to native hdr; I'll work on double exposure either after I eat or tomorrow

[dusty girder]

I was 100% positive based on the few bits of vids I've seen about the game since the first one since its about 2 canon lesbian girls and their like struggles

[rustic lichen]

a girl in art school with an interest in photography finds out she can rewind time, and has to face the consequeces of her using them

when you have conversations with people you can use what you learned in a failed conversation, rewind time, then try again but you'll have new options to choose from

the other girl is her childhood friend

romance is optional but is barely touched on

at least in that first game

[dusty girder]

prolly all the memes find it funny

to shill it as a lesbian sim

[broken dust]

Heya I've been using this for a new game called Hozy. Upgrading R10G10B10A2_UNORM to Output Size, Output Ratio or Any Size allows the game to go into HDR, but it's still limited to BT709, even with saturation boosted, and it sometimes seemingly randomly crashes. Are there any other upgrades or tweaks to try that can help?

[broken dust]

The crashing is now very frequent. It is complaining about a memory access violation, specifically Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000018. I've tried multiple combinations of different resource upgrades but nothing helps, it will crash if i upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM

[broken dust]

I’d gladly provide more info to help fix! ◡̈

[dusty girder]

I added these lutbuilders for Life Is Strange: Double Exposure also I set the mod to default to Processing Path off // Native HDR

Let me know if that ue extended works with double exposure's native hdr

if it does, off to github

[dusty girder]

@broken dust you should never need output size any, you're probably upgrading too much causing it to crash

1. did you try aspect ratio upgrades? and if it didnt work move on to 2

2. are you on ultrawide? if you are does the game become hdr with output size upgrades?

3. try messing with different DLSS settings (quality/perf/dlaa) with output size upgrades

if neither of those works, somebody needs to go in with a devkit, and add a custom aspect ratio for that game

[rustic lichen]

we're good to go 👍

[dusty girder]

[rustic lichen]

and I just crashed 😂

alt-tab for the win

[dusty girder]

thanks on PR

[dusty girder]

yea thats one big downside to native hdr in some UE games; it forces ass window management

you gotta get displaycommander or SK

[rustic lichen]

yeah and Life is Strange is really bad about the full screen shit

display commander lite works well though

[dusty girder]

oh there is a lite now

thats nice

I'll have to look into lite

[broken dust]

It crashes no matter if I upgrade to Any Size, Output Size or Output Ratio.

The game doesn’t have dlss so I’m unsure how to test that :/, it does have a render resolution slider which I keep at 100%.

I am indeed on ultrawide

So I assume devkit would be the only way :/

[dusty girder]

if upgrades cause the game to crash its a rip

[broken dust]

It only crashes every now and then, maybe like once every 20 minutes

Always with the same memory access violation

You don’t think even going in with a devkit and adding something custom will help?

[dusty girder]

nope

[broken dust]

:(

[steel lion]

Anyone tested Samson?

[thick belfry]

@dusty girder Lutbuilders for MGS Delta

MGSDelta-Win64-Shipping.exe (METAL GEAR SOLID Δ SNAKE EATER)

No sliders work with native HDR on and the processing path set to off

The UI slider works with the native HDR off processing path set to on, Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS=1 and R10G10B10A2_UNORM=1 need to be forced

[dusty girder]

@thick belfry I'll add them later

[dusty girder]

so I dont think the triangle works

[dusty girder]

not even the UI slider works with native hdr on processing path off?

that means I dont have the composite shader, but I should be able to yoink it from the MGS mod

[atomic oak]

you can enable HDR cfvar in usergame settings file and its working ingame. But activating lilium stats makes the game crash. color grading looks terrible too. Pretty game but at the same time ugly game, animations are terrible, driving is very bad. Will not play.

[dusk orchid]

@rustic lichen sry for pings - i wont get a chance to try myself until tonight but have no patience so need to harass you immediately 😬 😅 awesome to hear about ue-ext support for LIS: Double Exposure, but are we still "stuck" at the clamped max 1000 nits of the vanilla HDR or does ue-ext also unlock the full nit range?

[rustic lichen]

should be able to go full throttle with it 🙂

my display maxes out at 800 nits so I try not to go that high 😅

[dusk orchid]

great to hear, will check it out tonight and report back, thanks gents ^^ 🙏

[dusty girder]

yea get the latest snapshot from the repo

turn on native hdr, double check processing path is off in the addon, and enjoy

[vital knoll]

does this work only for UE5?

[dusk orchid]

cc: @dusty girder yep, works and looks fkn gorgeous. being freeeeeeeed of the 1000 nit cage is ❤️‍🔥 pls consider me most appreciative 🙏

[bleak nest]

Anyone tried Samson with UE extended, yet?

[peak galleon]

slop doesn't deserve it 😄

[dusty girder]

apparently the lutbuilders are already in the mod, you just need to figure out what upgrades you need

or if it has native hdr, see if the composite shader exists

or ini tweaks if you want, but thats power user no support stuff

[bleak nest]

Gotcha. Will download today and check.

Probs play it this weekend.

Bought it the other day but been busy.

[dusty girder]

its compiling

so download in an hour, or find the build I fixed in #🧪lab

[bleak nest]

Not in a rush.

Will download once done.

[brave gull]

this normal?

playing Backrooms: Escape Together

seems to work alright with R10G10B10A2_UNORM

besides the log going crazy

does that mean it's missing a shader?

[dusty girder]

log spam isnt the end of the world if everythings working

nothing to do with a shader

[brave gull]

alright

this game is pretty i didn't know it was 5.7 lol

hopefully that means newer versions work better

getting shitty fps though

surely not because of reno right?

nvm i turned dlss off

hdr doesn't work with this vhs filter on

[bleak nest]

Vanilla HDR / Reno (SDR EOTF Emulation Off) / Reno (SDR EOTF Emulation On)

All targeting 1000 nits, and rest of the settings default.

Reno with 2.2 EOTF disabled looks the best.

@thick belfry thoughts?

Emulation is crushing it way too much.

p.s. the game just throws me in HDR by force when I launch the game, there's no HDR toggle in-game, or calibration screen btw. Just welcome screen to adjust brightness based off 'lOgO bArElY vIsIbLe' shit. Thus decided to compare it with vanilla HDR isntead of SDR.

Looks better in brighter areas with it set to on, guess will just have to play around a bit more and see.

But the scene itself seems hazy anyway, so.

CC: @feral granite @atomic oak Samson works with UE Extended, btw. I remember y'all asking in the Den the other day.

[feral granite]

the crushing looks like heavy vignetting

[bleak nest]

I'll have to checkout in other areas and scenes to make up my mind, but pretty sure it's going to be an overall better look and representation of the game with emulation off, yeah.

Game has Ray reconstruction, too.

[thick belfry]

What are the SDR options?

[bleak nest]

Will have to try and force SDR in the game to see it, but there's no options in-game to adjust any brightness and such, lol.

2.2 Emulation

Off / On

In actual world, primarily outdoors, it looks overall better with it on.

But in some indoor scenes, it gets so excessive.

[bleak nest]

Off / On

This is what I mean, in some scenes it kinda looks nice, but in others, it excessively kills it.

But in the scenes it does look nice, it's not like the other doesn't.

I'mma keep it off from here, I think.

[thick belfry]

I'm seeing similar thing with mgs delta, at least with the legacy filter
But gamma correction off makes the night vision googles basically redundant

And also I'm seeing some posterisation in the darker areas without it

[bleak nest]

aye

I played that entire game with Legacy filter, and preferred that overall.

And it paid off big time in that jungle mission later (in the water, you'll see).

Game looks absolute when that mission starts.

[bleak nest]

I should find a way to force SDR somehow, though. I guess just throw Windows in SDR altogether and launch. And then compare a few things.

They could very well be going for a rather dramatic look with the game, as it sellls the 'realism' better of sorts, by hiding some of the details intentionally. The game overall gives that vibe anyway.

Are you using Extended with Delta rn, or Ritsu's mod?

[dusty girder]

the only difference between eotf emulation off (sRGB) and on (2.2) is a bit of contrast

a few people prefer srgb + contrast

also ritsu's mod is ded

use extended @bleak nest

make sure to get the latest snapshot, since I added a bunchof stuff for that game before bed

[dusty girder]

@amber sapphire why are the highlights so saturated?

What sliders did you mess with

[dusty girder]

with the latest commit, Silent Hill F (native hdr path) joins the list of deprecated UE mods

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/commit/45fc2b77b54413d59c1e288c86a94cbc55c5573a

(github is still compiling; so silent hill f ue-extended will be ready about an hour after this message)

[amber sapphire]

Contrast and saturation haha I like it saturated a bit! I use an OLED Tv not a monitor too. I’m sorry!! 😭

[dusty girder]

nothing to apoligize about, was just curious

the sliders are there for you to use them

and have fun

[amber sapphire]

appreciate it

thanks again for helping with that

[dusty girder]

np enjoy

[dusty girder]

If you guys where ever interested in what the Scene Grading sliders do, here is an example

Tonemap Test (will be renamed soon) controls if you want Max Channel or LMS display mapping

Per Channel peak controls the hue and chroma reference color, the higher the peak the lower the less blowout you have -- it defaults to 5 for "out of box consisntancy" but feel free to crank it up to 10

LMS is also really nice if you want more color, but for LMS you want to turn blowout down to 0, and hue shift to 50 or less

[dusk orchid]

(caveat that ive only used UE-ext in like a dozen-ish games or so but) so far im struggling to think of a single one where i prefer maxCH to LMS

is it just a personal pref thing? or are there certain games or visual cases where LMS is gonna look "wrong"?

[dusty girder]

no

so

lms is prolly the future default

its just that

max channel peak 5/100/100 is a very safe "out of box" setting

that matches sdr

super conservative

lms is the go-to

so apparently hellblade 2 just works with UE Extended which is cool I guess

The build that works with the game is still compiling, so it will be ready for download about an hour after I post this message

turn ingame HDR on!

@dusk orchid

If you look at SDR vs. HDR Max Channel 5/100/100,

5/100/100 matches SDR, while still being solid HDR

max ch 10/100/100 has less blowout and more "hdr hues " -- looks good in this game, but it might not be what you want in every game

LMS is probably the best though

I asked musa, apparently that pic isnt a spoiler but some early game bullshit

[placid siren]

should try a match NR instead of extend + n2 , but n2 in lms ain't bad for some highlights to white

i'm liking n2 max channel for sdr lut sample

[dusty girder]

n2 lms is my favorite since it has built in blowout

[placid siren]

working so far in starfield

[dusty girder]

all luts are n2 max ch scale and inverse

this is just for displaymapping at the end

[placid siren]

hmm

new gamut compress is n2 on purity

n2 on purity + n2 for peak is.....

there's probably a smarter way

[dusty girder]

hdr path doesnt do gamut compression, only sdr path

[placid siren]

hdr should have bt2020 gamut compression

[dusty girder]

probably should; but I'm pretty happy with the code baee as is

[placid siren]

but it's going to white anyway

[dusty girder]

I gamut compress and decompress luts

but thats different

[placid siren]

i added a new one, don't know if pushed

basically makes color::gamut revertible

which i needed for starfield luts

[dusty girder]

I'm a big fan of all the psycho stuff, and NR/Cone

but the pipeline for ue extended is pretty complex as is; I really dont want to re-invent the wheel for the third time (Matching NR, making sure it respects griefed filmic params betwene games)

if I was making a standalone mod for a game, I'd 100% match NR

[placid siren]

ue extended is already what you need

just asks you to through out the toe part

which in starfield was crushing anyway

[dusty girder]

guess I'll hold off adding gamut compression to bt2020 until I see the new stuff; not in a rush

[placid siren]

yeah, starfield would have some newer stuff

[dusty girder]

we talked about this with musa some time ago, and iirc he said the blue correct griefs too much

[placid siren]

basically everytime i crack open a game it's 3-6 months of reading applied

[bleak nest]

Oh, okay. Didn’t know that.

[bleak nest]

For Delta? Already finished the game at launch, bro. I was just curious.

Didn’t know Ritsu’s mod died.

[bleak nest]

Are you saying with it set to 2.2, it’s emulating 2.2 AND adding additional contrast together?

[dusty girder]

no

[bleak nest]

Okay, good.

[dusty girder]

set it to off, and increase contrast

in a way the only difference between on and off is a bit of per-ch contrast

[bleak nest]

Yeah, I know that. The way you said it sounded a bit different so was confirming.

[dusty girder]

so if on is too contrasty, just to off with a little bit of contrast

[dusty girder]

no longer maintained + ancient codebases

[bleak nest]

Yeah, figures.

Only reason he created it was cause just the LUTs I gave him from UE generic weren’t enough

And were causing issues.

So, he whipped up a dedicated one

[thick belfry]

It still works fine, it's just no longer maintaned
UE Extended is using the latest ||boy||toys

I've played the first third of the game with Ritsu's mod and now the second with UE Extended

[echo raft]

sorry for bringing this back up but this is "best practice" renodx for Avowed, correct?

[dusty girder]

yea

just drop that in, turn native hdr on in avowed, and enjoy

if you use U+ you might have to clear your shader cache

[brave aurora]

GTA trilogy remasters shader for extended (idk if I did it correctly)

Sliders don't work, UI slider controls game brightness

[dusty girder]

that looks right, let me add it real fast

also i swapped defaults to LMS 5/50/0

added a button for max channel 5/100/100 (old defaults) for the odd game that might benefit from it

@brave aurora where there any lutbuilders in the folder that did not have new_ in the name?

[brave aurora]

nope, that's the only one in all three

[dusty girder]

all good, I got what I need

give me 5 minutes

@brave aurora let me know if this works please

[brave aurora]

works fine, thanks.
Highlights look a lot different between old and new defaults

[dusty girder]

yep

thats what they change

the new defaults that is

lms has less blowout

while the old defaults are more faithful to to sdr

use whichever one you want

there is "no wrong answer"

[brave aurora]

so the old defaults have colors closer to how they should look like with the original grading?

[dusty girder]

well

its a safe profile

[brave aurora]

because at least here all three look very different, it's kinda hard to tell

which is closer

[dusty girder]

while LMS has more hdr hues, and blows out less

for the most part its usually better; probably 90% of the time

but there might be the odd game where its griefed

[dusty girder]

@swift plover

if you want to try something out

with the old defaults, set per channel peak to 10

it defaults to 5

you'll get less blowout

[restive rain]

These upgrade requirements apply to UE Extended too, right?

[dusty girder]

ye

unless a game has native hdr, and we use that instead of upgrades

[brave aurora]

what remains of edith finch for extended

[brave aurora]

fnaf help wanted ext

[brave aurora]

a way out lutbuilder

[indigo plank]

if the games have non-new lutbuilders, upload those too as it helps to add them faster for ue extended

[brave aurora]

oh I thought those were ones already added

extra one for fnaf hw then

[indigo plank]

they are, yeah

all lutbuilders for a given game use the same variables

so when there is one that's already added, it helps for just copying the fixed variables from the existing one to the new one(s) rather than having to ai slop or find them by hand

just helps expedite the process for ue extended in particular

[dusty girder]

I'll get to those lutbuilders soon ™

[shrewd badge]

sifu

[lone bay]

Atomic Heart : UE / UE extended

[brave aurora]

fnaf security breach (this one seems to work ootb tho, only menu's clamped)

wanted to test everything ue in my library,
turns out that I don't actually have a whole lot of ue4-5 games too

[autumn musk]

might be worth using dx11 too

iirc it had a tendency to stutter less than the dx12 path

oh you probably did use dx11 given that its shader model 5

[brave aurora]

with fnaf sb you mean? That's from dx12

that game is held together with a duct tape and a prayer

[autumn musk]

you can use the -dx11 launch param

[dusty girder]

lots of dx12 uses sm5

[dusty girder]

@autumn musk if any UE mod stutters, you need to clear your shader precomp cache and let it rebuild

usually the games:
-> %localappdata%/game/etc

and nvidias:

-> %LOCALAPPDATA%\NVIDIA\DXCache

[rustic lichen]

the only thing that probably won't work with Atomic Heart is the fire FX

those are a special shader that needs to get patched

because it looks awful as is

I never went back into the game to grab the shader to export

that's the non extended addon

[lone bay]

It seems to be ok in this place, at least. But look at the sun, wtf...

Is there any way I can help?

[dusty girder]

there is a button for safe grade

try that out

but the game might just be bright, nothing crazy

if you dont have the safe grade button, maybe you're on an old version

Latest Unreal Extended snapshot:

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[balmy sleet]

Gonna try Mongil stardive gacha slop it comes out in like 2 hrs

[lone bay]

You mean for the muted Sun ?

I tried but still the same

In the 1st DLC the fake Sun is much better

[balmy sleet]

MONGIL STAR DIVE crashes on start with generic ue

wait does not do that with dlss off

will fiddel with this more later

[viral lintel]

Looks good, I thought I would have to use special k hdr for this one. looks like renodx is an option instead

[dusty girder]

@lone bay I had a typo in the latest version, re-download UE-extended an hour after I post this (github will finish compiling)

and try again

[naive inlet]

Mine goes blackscreen instead with D3D12

[lone bay]

Atomic Heart : UE / UE extended (old) / UE extended (new)

Colors are much better 👍

[balmy sleet]

did you tick the magic box

[naive inlet]

the upgrades? no not yet, did it work?

yeah, it works now thanks

game brightness works and color grading is not working maybe because of missing shader

color grading works, just need to reload the scene or warp to other places just go to characters to be applied

[balmy sleet]

Dam this game is so brown

Might just play in JPN modern

[lone bay]

@dusty girder New UE extended is much butter in highlights, but I wasn't enough specific. I was talking about the Sun, just above crosshair in this screenshot. I think it's a shader thing.

[autumn musk]

Its not the ue mod its the game

[lone bay]

Did they really misalign the Sun?

[echo raft]

i have a weird problem with the ue_extended mod:
sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Take Avowed for example: sometimes the sliders work just fine (with live updates, no need to go into inventory or anything) and then a couple of minutes later they don't do anything , no changes live on screen or after opening inventory.
is this a me problem?

this is not just limited to avowed but happens in other games just as well

[dusty girder]

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

@echo raft add that to to Engine.ini; UE5 games dont update sliders inr eal time

if engine.ini doesnt exist, create it and make it read only

[dusty girder]

@lone bay the issue with the sun here is a game texture issue

[untold wadi]

Added stalker

[neon cargo]

Hello fellers, HDR can't be enabled in Windrose for some reason so I'm dabbling with the general UE reno build, unfortunately the game looks like this, am I gonna have to dump LUT shaders like it says and follow the guide in the pinned message?

[brave aurora]

So is the dedicated mod deprecated now?

[untold wadi]

Yes

[restive rain]

Is the game worth playing now bug-wise? Or should I wait until they update the engine? Something tells me it will be even more bugged after the update

[weary bough]

If I do play it again, I am waiting for the engine upgrade which they did not do yet

[thorn galleon]

Add -hdr to launch options

[dusk eagle]

renodx-unrealengine.addon64 crash on Hell Is Us, already follow wiki instructions

[dusk eagle]

NVM this renodx-ue-extended.addon64 works w/ the same instructions

[untold wadi]

idk I'm waiting for engine upgrade

[mortal birch]

idk if this goes here

but dear reno maker of renodx you know that i love you so much? that you re the best modder in hdr of the world? could you please make the reno hdr for replaced ? -_-

[untold wadi]

........

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1413695723404398674/1413695723404398674

[mortal birch]

shit -_-

[neon cargo]

Thank you

[cold oriole]

Im trying windrose as well - with -hdr it still looks really washed out to me

with -hdr added and HDR turned on in game with the latest build of unrealengine renodx from the git repo download

[pine raven]

Someone once wrote a song about this.

[cold oriole]

Hmm are your colours not washed out with renodx?

[pine raven]

I'm a terrible judge of color. This is how my main menu looks. UI is washed out, but in-game lighting/textures seem fine to me, other than the black hole sun.

[cold oriole]

Hmm with the renodx hdr?

[digital oak]

looks like inverse tonemapp issue 🤔

[cold oriole]

I am using reshade 6.7.3 maybe that's the issue - haven't had the issue elsewhere though

[pine raven]

renodx-ue-extended

[cold oriole]

Ah I've been out of the renodx game a while. What's extended?

[pine raven]

scroll up this thread a bit and you should find it.

[cold oriole]

here

It works but the UI looks pretty washed out haha

[neon cargo]

im guessing you upgraded the thingie to output size?

I was black screening so had to do that haven't tried -hdr yet

wish the in game HDR toggle worked

[cold oriole]

Sun is working

I noticed UI slider changes the whole game so I know I am doing something wrong

[eager lynx]

@dusty girder , I've ticked Dump LUT shaders in ShantyTown but it didn't dump anything, does it mean there's nothing new to dump for the addon to have support for ?

Only did that because the sliders don't do anything, only peak and UI brightness do (but UI affects game), game only gets a basic HDR upgrade (which is fine tbh but being able to tweak more would be nice)

[brave aurora]

Dumps folder in ue appears only after relaunching the game for me, not sure why

Sometimes two relaunches even, I just keep the folder open to look out for when they appear

[eager lynx]

Ah thanks, wouldn't have tried again as this game although cute really isn't for me so relaunched it once before uninstalling and refunding

Here's the only dumped file for that game then

[knotty sequoia]

it does work you need to add -HDR into the steam launch options

[knotty sequoia]

could you please send me the reno dx you are using?

[civic elbow]

Just trying UE Extended on Still Wakes the Deep and by default it seems UI slider is working but anything else (game brightness, contrast, shadows etc etc) doesn't work. Any idea what I should do? Never use UE Extended so have no idea what I'm doing here :[

[civic elbow]

Game has native HDR btw, just seems paper white is too high and can’t be changed. Any help would be appreciated

[fallen drum]

Probably just need this line in engine.ini for the sliders to work in realtime:

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[dusty girder]

@civic elbow https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

download that addon, delete the other one

enable native hdr in game, and enjoy

adding this to engine.ini will enable real time sliders

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[civic elbow]

delete the other one? Which other one? From the main repo? That's where it was downloaded from, through RHI

Thank you both! Will try that

[dusty girder]

the one with a different name

[civic elbow]

I'm honestly confused 😄 What am I missing? I thought the one that RHI grabs (from shortfuses's reno repo) was the only one that exists

[dusty girder]

there are 2 for now, but thats the newer one

rhi should have an option for ue-extended; idk

either way, just follow instructions and enjoy

[civic elbow]

Gotcha! thanks 🙂

yeah this game seems to not have engine.ini tho hmm

[civic elbow]

yeah it detects by default (ue extended) and even shows your name there as the author, so I think it installed the correct one

[dusty girder]

oh ok

so enable native hdr in game

and thats it enjoy

the reason sliders dont work in real time is because UE5 games only update sliders on scene change

[dusty girder]

unless you add this to engine.ini

[civic elbow]

yeah, except this game doesn't have an engine.ini odd

[dusty girder]

you make it

add the line

and then set engine.ini to read only

I've tested still wakes the deep personaly

also you make be able to stick that ini setting into

gameusersettings.ini

I think somebody tried it

and it worked

give it a try for science

[civic elbow]

works ^^

[dusty girder]

enjoy

[dusty girder]

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[dusty girder]

@pine raven under advanced settings in the RenoDX mod , set "upgrade path" to off, and restart the game

[dusty girder]

// bookmark

still have to get to these

[knotty sequoia]

a

[dusty girder]

b

[dusty girder]

WHY DO MY SLIDERS NOT WORK // WHY DOES THE UI SLIDER MAKE EVERYTHING BRIGHTER

• Unreal Engine 5 games don't update sliders in real time. This does not mean the mod is broken. You just have to trigger a scene change, which can be something as simple as opening and closing the inventory, or loading a save.

• There is an alternative option. Add the below lines to the game's Engine.ini, and sliders will work in real time!
  --> If the game doesn't have an Engine.ini, create one in the same folder as GameUserSettings.ini. Add the config lines, and set it to read only after

Engine.ini can usually be found in: %localappdata%\[GAME-NAME]\Saved\Config\Windows

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

Note: This is only for Unreal Engine 5 games. There are a few rare Unreal Engine 4 games where sliders dont work in real time, the engine.ini tweak sadly wont work in them.

[covert moon]

@Marat sorry to bother whats the difference between different ue builds? is extended from your github the latest and first to try ? dlss fix only if fg is acting up? I cant find info about the extended fork im sorry. Thank you very much for your advice should you have the time!

[balmy sleet]

If the game deletes Engine.ini am I screwed?

[bold hawk]

Just set it to read only

It won't delete it

[dusty girder]

@covert moon think of it as a release-preview for a new version

use it first whenever possible

the original one is a fallback incase something is wrong or doesnt work

[plain rover]

so its my first time using the UE extended mod. trying it on Windrose. and this is how it looks like lol. any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance!

[dusty girder]

@plain rover set upgrade path to off under advanced settings in renodrt, and restart the game

[covert moon]

Thank you very, very much! Have a wonderful day!

[oak solar]

What's the difference between ue extended and the normal version?

[dusty girder]

.

I need to make a seperate thread for it

I've been holding off since I try not to advertise it outside of the few native hdr games where its just tbe better option

[covert moon]

@untold wadi Sorry to bother I tried both yours and latest [Marat] ue extended builds for stalker - hdr works but nights are crazy bright.

I understand that nexusmods page says in-game hdr must be on but for me that does nothing and also does not work in borderless mode -
which reno usually suggest to use.

Sorry for stupidity, would you be able to advise please? and overall game settings just 50/50/50 as per nexusmods page?
Exclusive also locks me to 60hz mode which is .. and I dont want to brutalize EDID further.

Thank you very much!

[covert moon]

Upgrade path to ON made it work! Any other settings to look at, please? No need to touch "Upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size" if no black screen, or "B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS (Output Size) [like for Atomic Heart]" ? Thank you!

Oh really intersting - peak brightness is no longer respected in that [upgrade path mode ON] mode highlights go to 10k. something is very wrong here heh. I would tremendously appreciate any help. Im trying to get accurate HDR on stalker 2 for a lg g5 65/2500 nits. rtx hdr/autohdr are off. i have successfully used RenoDX in many games before idk whats going on. any help would be greatly appreciated

[covert moon]

Cant figure this out humble bundle keys x10 to anyone who can help me fix this lol ❤️

[untold wadi]

Send screenshots at night time

With reshade logs and a screenshot of your settings

[covert moon]

@untold wadi Dear Ritsu, thank you very much. I think I had a breakthrough -
I cannot use exclusive as it locks me to 60 hz and I already brutalized my LG G5's EDID to the point of no return.
Since RenoDX must have native HDR ON and native HDR is disabled in fullscreen mode
- I had to get Ultra Plus mod which you mention on the nexus page, thank you very much - and force enabled HDR in borderless mode.

Now there is some sanity back! its about 2 am. I put all sliders in-game to default [including saturation to 50] and HDR is greyed out but default sliders (I assume HDR despite being greyed out is engaged due to UPlus mod)

JXR HDR screenshots are on the google drive link, thank you. Attached screnshot of stalker 2 settings, reshade settings, screenshot at night with lillium hdr info showing, and ultra plus config.

Is that how its supposed to look like? My peak nits are 2500

Thank you very much!
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Z8N-6kq7yEIt4KNdooaHsJeiQNQoHhzt?usp=sharing

Reshade log ,sorry should have been attached to main post

[untold wadi]

It looks fine to me

[covert moon]

@untold wadi Roger thank you very much! its dead without UPlus - HDR does not engage even i switch "upgrade path to ON" still 100 nits tops (without UPlus)

[untold wadi]

I haven't attempted the upgrade path on

But it looks fine to me, so your only issue is the fullscreen stuff

I have no idea why it locks you to 60 tho

[covert moon]

Thank you , that sounds great! UPlus allows me to run real RenoDX then wonderful!
Some lg tv as monitor bs probably regarding 60 fullscreen lock

Thank you very much for your help, and thank you very much for mentioning Ultra Plus that allowed to force HDR in borderless!

[dusty girder]

yea I just tested it too, you just need to set all the ingame settings to 50; for some cursed reason the game defaults them to meme values

[covert moon]

@dusty girder Thank you very much! [I assume SDR or rather contrast/brightness/saturation/gamma to 50, as HDR settings are greyed out for me]
Would greyed HDR settings of default -4 black point; 1000 white point; 25 brightness; interface brightness 17 affect anyting?

[dusty girder]

those settings do nothing

you just need to make sure HDR is on in settings

and all the other settings are 50/50/50/50 (contrast, brightness saturation)

the whitepoint stuff gets skipped

[covert moon]

Thank you very, very much! Truly appreciate your sage help!

[covert moon]

Sorry its me again. Nights are way too bright. Tried dragging gamma down, tried dragging overall nits down - interiors are silly dark already but outside is soo bright! tried
"[SystemSettings]
r.EyeAdaptation.LensAttenuation=.1
r.EyeAdaptation.ExponentialTransitionDistance=1 in engine.ini" etc.
is that how its supposed to be?

Also I have this curious issue of not being able to use fullscreen exclusive - the only mode with hdr support out of the box
I use ultra plus to force hdr in borderless.
I see 3 scenarios:
UP hdr to game + borderless = dead image with renodx on too no hdr 200 nits ; [in-game hdr setting grayed out]
UP hdr to on + borderless = good image slightly washed out with renodx max nits 2500 super bright nights ; [in-game hdr setting grayed out]
switch to exclsuive hdr on in game = cooked image nits at 10000 dark night but like slightly deep fried [double tone mapped?] [in-game hdr setting ON]
I hope I set it up correctly.

would appreciate any more input - if nights are bright and its just how stalker 2 is and im wasting everyones time im sorry just please confirm - if possible.
screenshots at gdrive https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15Uo24UmQK5_UjJdnkYrGMRsucR6C-NAu?usp=sharing

its 1am (!) in screenshots. I tried dynamic weather overhaul its a bit nicer but stars are crazy 2500 nits bright and twinkly there

Thank you very much for you continued patience for my tism ❤️

[covert moon]

Cutscenes appear without HDR for some reason whatsoever

[dusty girder]

Those screenshots look normnal, its just the game is dark and has nothing going on @covert moon

if you find a highlight, like a reflection in the water

that will be bright

also cutscenes are FMVs, so those will be game nits

[covert moon]

roger that thank you! I think its just the moon is always out nights will be bright due to game design. Thanks for the help!

[covert moon]

Thank you very much for replying - I was saying the screenshots look too bright maybe our panels are different - but Ill just accept at this point tis the Moon. i swapped to lg g5 65 recently and its a whole another beast from lg cx 65 really needs reno, panel is silly bright even in filmmaker mode etc.

[untold wadi]

Just make sure you aren't using Dynamic tone mapping

[covert moon]

roger that yeah it cooks the image - i found that the dynamic weather overhaul now has an eye adaptation addon - helped immensely! thanks for the advice

[dusty girder]

@covert moon all those mods might add effects that might not work with reno, so be careful

[covert moon]

roger that i only tried dwo with its adaptation for exposure and ultra plus to force borderless hdr. dwo author recommends renodx explicitly the combo just works for me!

coincidentally i found out that dv (even in tv-led 8bit tunnelled mode) has SO much banding in stalker 2! had to switch to hdr10 filmmaker hgig 12bit to signficantly improve banding - its still there but much better

[dusty girder]

you want to use HGiG with reno mods

DTM on or off = rip

[covert moon]

for sure, i normally run g5 in dv mode the tv-led tonemapping is 95% identical to hgig with tad better highlights - but in stalker 2 banding is wild so back to filmmaker with hgig forced and allm enabled

[untold wadi]

DTM off + all professional sliders at 100 is the way to go for G5

[covert moon]

@untold wadi I though that too until I saw this [specific post with professional measurements linked] https://www.avsforum.com/threads/lg-2025-g5-c5-b5-dedicated-gaming-thread.3327519/page-10?post_id=64535450&nested_view=1#post-64535450

[amber sapphire]

Is there reshade and Reno for Unity games? Like mouse pi?

[untold wadi]

If I'm not mistaken FMM has some color boost algorithm that's disabled in HGIG. I don't remember the details. Interesting vid tho

[untold wadi]

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1413695723404398674/1413695723404398674

[amber sapphire]

Let’s rock lol

[covert moon]

Its a really good image in fmm mode in either HDR with HGIG or DV with TV-led tm as long as black crush is compensated (165hz vrr just +4/5). game mode is CLOWN bright in DV and capped to 2000 nits (!) in HDR 🙁 - which leaves us with only fmm mode usable. and since pro 100 meters lose 25% nits we have to stick with HGIG (imho)

From what Ive seen only cod blops7 outputs actual DV but everything apart from stalker 2 looks a hair better in 8bit container dv tv-led mode - i think it shows all there is to see and if there is banding its gonna band heh

[dusty girder]

@covert moon just dont do what this guy does

https://youtu.be/veW4sb4P1Nk

[brave gull]

But don’t you want to fix win 11 HDR?!

[honest linden]

Bruh I want my 15 mins back from watching that

Been a while since I’ve seen someone waste to much time and go to so much trouble just to be completely wrong

[covert moon]

@rustic lichenSorry to bug, which HDR engine ini tweak like to enable HDR? it works in final release but im kinda concerned with running reshade with addons on a pve mp game - would it be safe what do you reckon? Thank you [ Windrose game context, HDR is broooken needs Reno ]

[rustic lichen]

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

I haven't seen any mention of ReShade not being allowed when I checked the Windrose server. Usually ReShade is only an issue on online competitive games. Worked fine for me during the demo. Haven't tried the full game yet (too busy with Cyberpunk)

if they ever add anticheat down the road it could become an issue, but we'll see

[covert moon]

Roger that gonna try it, thank you!

Just to double check hdr must be on in any game we use reno on right? this is not correct, right?

https://x.com/HDRgameAnalysis/status/2046320756251115673
["When using the RenoDX Multi-Game mod you must turn off HDR.
In games that have en specific RenoDX HDR mod, it can be both.
Its easy to test. Just try ON or OFF."] ?

HDR game analysis (@HDRgameAnalysis)

@kun_mirage When using the RenoDX Multi-Game mod you must turn off HDR.

In games that have en specific RenoDX HDR mod, it can be both.

Its easy to test. Just try ON or OFF.

X · Apr 20, 2026, 8:11 PM

[rustic lichen]

that will vary based on the game, and with UE Extended it will vary based on what mode you're using with it.

for this game keep HDR on though

[covert moon]

Thank you very much, understood - I recall option in UE extended in advanced now thank you

[dusty girder]

@covert moon you also have to set upgrade path to off in the reno mod and restart the game (set settings to advanced to see it)

also iirc windrose doesnt need ini tweaks, just set -hdr in the launch arguments based on what people posted

you can still add update every frame for realtime sliders

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[covert moon]

thank you very much! was looking for engine ini lol just found it under R5

[dusty girder]

some games dont come with it, and you have to make it in the same folder as GameUserSettings.ini

[covert moon]

roger yeah the folder name is appdata is R5 for some reason not windrose heh

[dusty girder]

and set it to read-only after adding the changes

[covert moon]

thank you!

wow lmao! havent seen that yet! wonder what went wrong posting for a laugh ill figure it out but thats wild lol

[dusty girder]

did you set upgrade path off

and restart the game

I dont think you did

[dusty girder]

...

open the reno mod, click advanced, set upgrade path to "off", restart game

[covert moon]

King that was exactly that!

[dusty girder]

that should be it, enjoy

[covert moon]

sorry i just launched i was about to do it but yes that was exactly that

thank you very much!

[dusty girder]

since windrose has the -hdr flag

I should probably default it to upgrade path off

can you please send me reshade.log with windrose

so I can get the product name

[covert moon]

absolutely thank you very much i launched without flag - the game HDR toggle works in the final release apparently

[dusty girder]

00:58:49:152 [21604] | INFO  | [RenoDX] No default settings for Windrose-Win64-Shipping.exe (Windrose)

// bookmark

ty

[covert moon]

Phenomenal difference with Reno on : as if HDR on vs off all over again.
Reno is like HDR 2.0. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
UI brightness alone for an oled is such an amazing feature

[dusty girder]

yea, unreal's stock hdr is pretty poopoo

and its only going to get exponentially worse with UE 5.8

[covert moon]

oh goodness thats fantastic to hear!

how come lol?

[dusty girder]

UE 5.8 adds ACES2, and in their infinite wisdom the way the UE devs implement it is basically ITM/fake hdr

[covert moon]

Truly Unreal (TM) move...

HDR is literally the most important tech of past idk 20 years for display tech imho unbelievable how poorly real HDR is treated even now

[dusty girder]

-> Run the UE Filmic SDR tonemapper (atleast this time they'll also keep SDR Luts in)

-> Inverse UE Filmic with Aces2 Inverse (So you're invesing a curve with the wrong formula)

-> Apply Aces2 on the inversed color

peak ass

[covert moon]

jesus christ

[dusty girder]

on the bright side since UE Filmic doesnt seem to be going anywhere, the UE mod/UE Extended should stay working just fine

[covert moon]

oh thank fuck for that im getting addicted to working HDR

[mortal birch]

guys quick question, delta force use unreal engine ?

[mortal birch]

same this is why i love reno, not my fault

[polar crest]

chernobylite clamped area with ue extended @dusty girder

also ingame hdr needs to be disabled with the game

idk why

[mortal birch]

are you talking to me?

nvm

hmmmmmmmm wonder if i have to enable something in game or in the ini of the game?

looks weird

[dusty girder]

@polar crest I own the game, I'll look into it; probably missing a composite shader for native hdr; I'll be able to add that though

can you send me your save file of the clamped area though

I'm curious whats wrong with native hdr

[covert moon]

Hail to the King my god you lads are HEROES for HDR gaming

[polar crest]

uuuuuuh

i'll try when i get there

if u ever play the game it's all the moments you're in the crystal world

[mortal birch]

guys does anyone knows

why the unreal renohdr is not working with delta force?

im not sure if i did something wrong

[polar crest]

AppData\Local\ChernobylGame\Saved\SaveGames

careful it's spoiler heavy sections

[dusty girder]

its ok, idk if I ever plan on playing it

ima look into it later

[dusty girder]

@polar crest

okay so here's a working build, but I didnt set any game defaults; I added the lutbuilders though

-> The game's native HDR only works in DX11, this is a known bug. So if you play in DX11, in reno set "Upgrade Path" to off, and restart the game

-> If you play in DX12, make sure Upgrade path is on, B8G8R8A8_typeless and R10G10B10A2_UNORM is output size

tiny indie company, so yea

also I'm on the steam version, idk if other versions work

[polar crest]

Ya dw

I'm dx12

Idc about the native hdr regardless

I reno since first second

[dusty girder]

well reno works with native hdr (in dx11)

ist just there incase upgrades cause issues

[covert moon]

@dusty girdersorry to bother you - is this a newer build compared to the unclamped gamut build? its one ue extended build fits all ue games unless there is an explicit new-ish mod for a game right? (stalker for sure uses latest extended)

[dusty girder]

all games

but gamut was always unclamped

its just a few things where overlooked when adding code to handle game fixs, like stalker2; which caused the gamut to clamp if it ran a game-fix function

but thats like 2 games so its not an issue

[crude tiger]

So we’re in the “use generic ue extended mod instead of the dedicated mod” denial stage for Stalker 2 now, interesting

[shell igloo]

because stalker2 support was added to the extended ue addon???? what denial

[crude tiger]

Does it work for stalker 2 properly now?

[crude tiger]

Dunno, I thought Ritsu was on stalker 2, but I guess everyone else got tired of not being able to play the game for 6 months now that Marat kindly decided to step in lol

[shell igloo]

ritsu added the lutbuilders

[shell igloo]

.

not having hdr doesn't mean the game is unplayable
just play in sdr

[crude tiger]

Woah, like a thunder struck

[crude tiger]

Sorry, I value my eyes

[shell igloo]

yeah and sdr doesn't hurt anyone

[crude tiger]

What’s the correct version, this or Marat’s?

[shell igloo]

idk

download and find out

i don't play that game

[crude tiger]

Sighhh

[crude tiger]

Triple sigh

[crude tiger]

Hi, is it playable now or nah?

[untold wadi]

Nah

[crude tiger]

So why is it there?

[untold wadi]

Experimental, doesn't work tho

Needs bespoke mod

[crude tiger]

Is this the reason why I’m almost not seeing any difference between UE Vanilla SDR and Reno UE HDR?

[crude tiger]

Got no idea if the dedicated mod is still heavily required considering the discussions above

[crude tiger]

Hi, did you manage to get anything out of this universal mod for Stalker? Ritsu says it’s still not working,

[covert moon]

Hey I uhhh I have a custom build it works perfectly for me - but Im nobody, Ritsu is one of the devs here - I just got lucky to get a build

[crude tiger]

Did you only use Marat’s latest Reno UE extended version from earlier today?

[covert moon]

I havent tried that version yet

[crude tiger]

In your custom build did you only use the Reno UE extended addon or anything else? Like engine.ini tweaks or other mods?

[covert moon]

In theory it works by itself.

In practice my monitor only engages 60 hz in exlcusive in that game (crazy) so I have to use ultra plus mod to force hdr in borderless.

Then, by game design, nights are too bright due to moon so i use dynamic weathers overhaul to make nights darker. Then still the eye adapatation is crazy and dlss autoexposure cannot be used in that game so DWO's eye adaptation too.

only engine ini tweak i use is the lut every frame

[crude tiger]

Just want to receive an insight into whether I should just use it on its own and be done with it

[crude tiger]

Got it

When I move the slider between Vanilla SDR and UE HDR the difference is only in the sky during the day for some reason

[covert moon]

oh wow no it proper works its actually some of the very best HDR i have ever seen in my life

[frosty hemlock]

Anyone try Tokyo XTREME Racer? It seems like only peak brightness and UI brightness is working

[covert moon]

Woah thats an amazing game I need

[crude tiger]

Did you try enabling upgrade path on in Stalker?

It looks pretty oversaturated

[covert moon]

from what i understand in stalker 2 for renodx to work hdr needs to be enabled. that means upgrade path off. if we upgrade path on that means we tonemap from sdr (please correct me anyone if im wrong) - in stalker 2 for me that results in a deep fried oversat image

hdr only works in fs exclusive in stalker 2 so if you play in borderless you gotta force it via ultra plus

[tulip kayak]

@maiden flicker post the nte slut builder here

Day -7 support

[stark steppe]

NTE open beta starts in a few hrs

can confirm for now that ue-extended works up to the main menu 👀

[tulip kayak]

It doesnt work

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[stark steppe]

oof

looks like the loading screen is just governed by the ui slider

rip

[shell igloo]

im not convinced it's gonna work with generic mods even with lutbuilders
see how wuwa is custom too

[tulip kayak]

this is hotta

not kuso games

and wuwa "custom" is uncharted 2 with extra steps

[shell igloo]

that's still more than ue aces

[tulip kayak]

not really better

uc2/hable has all of the shit deep fry issue

so all that did is make the game more annoying to patch

[maiden flicker]

my bad, i went to sleep lol

[maiden flicker]

(not sure if im doing this correctly)

[indigo plank]

[meager knot]

What should I do if nothing is displayed when using renodx in NTE? Only the ReShade interface is shown

[south pecan]

🖥️ Black Screen on Launch Upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size

[meager knot]

Thanks, but there are a few bugs. I switched to Win AutoHDR

[south pecan]

Yes, it looks like all we can do for now is wait for an update.

[stark steppe]

got it working?

[wheat glade]

are there any 'HDR Look' settings to make Windrose with renodx not look quite so washed out? It looks super natural, but more desaturated compared to the stock HDR, lol.

[tulip kayak]

can you post an hdr screenshot

[tulip kayak]

Ya bro

This is unpatched

Some of it looks unclamped

But the night city one looks clamped

Maybe a differrent lutbuilder at night 🤷‍♂️

[stark steppe]

also how'd you get optiscaler working 👀

[maiden flicker]

Just how u normally would, but with version.dll

[stark steppe]

oh I didn't word it right

I got optiscaler working but it won't pick up dlss inputs

[maiden flicker]

im not too sure, maybe ask in optiscaler server

[stark steppe]

apparently it's an Nvidia issue

AMD works just fine lol

[dusty girder]

@maiden flicker did you set your peak nits to 10k?

if not there are post process effects that need patching

[maiden flicker]

nope, not sure why that happen, should i send another lut shaders?

[warm pewter]

Neverness to Everness

[stark steppe]

so is this going to work via ue-extended update? 👀 as opposed to requiring a standalone addon

[vestal path]

Where can I download UE extended addon?

[stark steppe]

from Marat's GitHub page

https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[vestal path]

Thanks!

[brave aurora]

it's also a toggle in RHI, if you use that

[short python]

this did not work for me I still have the same thing that it is either black and white or it is completely crazy looking like the other scxreenshots

[vestal path]

RHI?

[glossy cipher]

a tool for easy ReShade and Reno/Luma installation
It's getting developed in this Discord server
https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1474481327691665553
https://github.com/RankFTW/RHI

[dusty girder]

if it overshoots peak, that means there is something happening after the lutbuilder

might be asimple fix, but not a lutbuilder only fix

[dusty girder]

what ue version is the game btw

Can somebody get me the unreal engine vrsion of the nothing to everness game? I'm curious

you can get it by right clicking the game's .exe, properties, and details

[fallen drum]

5.6 according to the FModel discord thread

[dusty girder]

yea I can tell its 5.5+ based on the lutbuilder

[dusty girder]

@warm pewter do you have any files that are not new_ in that folder

please always upload ALL lutbuilders

not just new ones

it saves me a lot of time

you dont have to decompile them, the .csos are fine

[charred solstice]

it was 5.6 in cbt, but unconfirmed rumors of it again being upgraded.

[south pecan]

Hey Marat, do you still need the lutbuilders? I think this is the file you need?

[dusty girder]

are there no old lutbuilders in the folder?

that are just named lutbuilder_

[south pecan]

unfortunately there's no

[dusty girder]

thats fine, I'll get to them in a few days

or tomorrow

[warm pewter]

Its 5.6.1

[vestal path]

interesting. I am always checking for new versions etc. Looks like a well-working tool. I will check it out!

[indigo plank]

Are there new lutbuilders in the PvE mode? I just played PvP yesterday without any issues

[valid ocean]

i just loaded up and everything is clamped expect selecting a hero in times square

[indigo plank]

Needs rgb10a2 unorm upgrade

These are already in the mod

[valid ocean]

Okay thanks

[mortal birch]

hope mods dont get mad but i need advice in which oled monitor to buy

https://www.amazon.es/s?k=monitor+oled&i=computers&__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=1IDFPDFSZ3CFN&sprefix=monitor+ole%2Ccomputers%2C342&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

which one from the list?

[brave gull]

why you posting this in a thread

[mortal birch]

cuz dunno where to go

-_- since this a ds related to hdr idk kinda good idea to ask in a place where monitors supoused to look good with hdr?

dunno sorry didnt mean to get upset on no body

[brave aurora]

try HDR Den, tvs and monitors thread is more on this topic

[mortal birch]

is that awebpage?

dunno

[brave gull]

im talking about this thread why didn't you send in general or something

this is for unreal engine

[glossy cipher]

I think he means this one: https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1178744414957473842

[mortal birch]

it shows as #unkown

[brave gull]

but yeah that's probably better

[glossy cipher]

yeah different server, it will show you a preview with the ability to join the server I think

[mortal birch]

ok thanks

sorry didnt mean to disturb i was talking bout it overh ere like 5 months ago

[brave aurora]

discord shows that for servers you haven't joined

[mortal birch]

just bough a new psu so 😒

[dusty girder]

this wasnt dumped using unreal engine extended

[dusty girder]

well added nothing to everness or whatever its called to ue extrended, wait an hour ro so for it to compile after this message is posted

@untold wadi you PR'd this lutbuilder to UE-Generic long ago, but its some weird stuff; its not UE Filmic

no traditional tonecurveammount

of 0.93 desat

I wonder if its actually used

idk what game it came from 3 months ago, since there are no PR coments

might be unused, so doesnt matter

[charred solstice]

I submitted NTE cbt luts around 3 months ago? but that was before UE extended was released?

release build seems to have added a 3rd lut file though

[dusty girder]

ah

@charred solstice mind testing this

let me compile

I added the new lut, but removed one lut that looks like its prolly unused

please let me know if sliders work, like dechroma (remember you might need a scene change)

[charred solstice]

I can not, it's not released in Global for another 3 or so days. The above submission, is based on the CN early release version, which requires some CN SSN or something to download :/

[dusty girder]

oh rip

[charred solstice]

but definitely will test~

[dusty girder]

@warm pewter

[charred solstice]

I think it should work partically. They had a seperate lut when you goto character menu in CBT, which went back to SDR.

[dusty girder]

CBT = ||cock ball torture||

find a new acronym

[charred solstice]

that sounds like an amazing build for a game.

[maiden flicker]

the game now look like this, am i using the wrong settings?

[dusty girder]

try enabling dlss

are you using dlaa?

[maiden flicker]

im using fsr4 via opti

[dusty girder]

oh

can you try no opti please

or

is your fsr4 native res

or upscaled?

[maiden flicker]

nope, balanced

[dusty girder]

huh idk

I know there is an issue with upgrades at times

mind trying with no opti

this might be amd memes ngl

oh

change r10g10b10a2_unorm

change it from output ratio, to output size

[maiden flicker]

alright

[dusty girder]

and restart the game

[maiden flicker]

still same, im gonna try without opti

[warm pewter]

I had the same issue with UE Extended
The generic one worked fine

I will try the new build later

[dusty girder]

thats interesting

I only added support for the game

so before it should've done nothing

what if you click "safe grade"

when it comes to the code, everything seems good

so its something else breaking it

[warm pewter]

Sorry do you need a new one?