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dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:32 AM

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does the game have like a

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cutscene replay feature

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:33 AM

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nope

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:33 AM

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so you can go back there and fuck around

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sadge

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:33 AM

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game doesn't have a cutscene feature + it skips the cutscene if you reset the client

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which means this is not a fun issue to debug and i'm not going to

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it rarely happens anyway

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:33 AM

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idk how critical the story is to the game, but it feels like one of those things thats prolly more important here than most games

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:34 AM

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it is important and i would like to fix it but uh

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too much hassle and it quite literally only happens like twice a year

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:34 AM

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if its a 1 scene meme, just kick the can down the road

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:34 AM

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it is extremely rare

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:34 AM

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yea fuck it

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iirc banishers had a post-lutbuilder effect that just needed a max(0 removed

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it added a haze to the screen

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but my understanding is most post-lutbuilder stuff is custom

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even though ue 5.4, esp 5.5 has A LOT of post lutbuilder shit nowadays

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:35 AM

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there is some post lutbuilder shit here too

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but that actually just works

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with HDR

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:36 AM

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sometimes stuff just works

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I have this theory that japan and maybe asia

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have like a popular UE plugin

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that does post-lutbuilder grading

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because you have two completely different games, Berserker the first Khazan and SMT5

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:37 AM

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you know you can check

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:37 AM

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both that do more or less the same thing

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:37 AM

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using FModel

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right?

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UE bundles information of every plugin

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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run a default lutbuilder, and then have a similar looking custom shader that handles all the "custom" grading

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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compiled in the game

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in the paks

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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stiff loom using FModel

I think I used that to rip the SMT4 video

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from SMT5

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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when I was digging for fmvs to see if they where bt601 or not

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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it's a common tool to view paks

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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ngl was surprised how ez it was; I thought I was going to have to get a decrypter tool out and all that

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:38 AM

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btw

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this is very poggers

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:39 AM

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poggers

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:39 AM

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oh sorry

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:39 AM

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I prefer the fish

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PogFish

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:39 AM

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the screenshot didn't upload

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:40 AM

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btw did you play around with max ch vs. lms

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out of box max ch at 5 should be more or less kinda faithful to sdr while having enough hdr hues (it gets hue/chroma from a 500 nit color)

if you want less blowout, just raise per-ch peak

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:41 AM

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this used to get giga clipped with the original UE addon

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i'm going to murder discord

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:41 AM

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stiff loom this used to get giga clipped with the original UE addon

discord failed

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and this is what happens if I pipe it into skiv

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discord tried

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one thing kal tought me is before pressing enter, count to 10

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:42 AM

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dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:42 AM

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oh wow that is pretty

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:42 AM

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this used to be 500-nits

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with the color correction stuff on renodx-ue

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:42 AM

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because of how an extended tm works, it will go to infinity nits

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is the blackfloor griefed all game?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:44 AM

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dusty girder btw did you play around with max ch vs. lms

no

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:45 AM

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dusty girder one thing kal tought me is before pressing enter, count to 10

I used to think it was my 30mbps upload griefing image uploads, esp when I tried to upload like multiple 4k hdr pics (25mb/pic)

turns out discord needs some time to process pics if you're pasting from the clipboard

so if I ctrl+v a pic, count to 10 before pasting the next pic in, and then count to 10 before pressing enter after pasting in the last pic; discord never fails

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honestly from the pics you sent me

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nikki doesnt have that "unreal engine look"

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:46 AM

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it doesn't

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it has a lot of custom grading

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it's still ACES tho lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:46 AM

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ue filmic is aces at home, but yea

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since the games vanilla look depends so much on aces, and the params are dynamic game to game

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instead of fighting it, gotta embrace it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:50 AM

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tried lms

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i kinda like this more

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:51 AM

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lms you gotta drop hue shift/blowout

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:51 AM

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stiff loom i kinda like this more

yea its good stuff

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I suggest dropping both down to 0, and then slightly raising them to 30-50 depending on what you like + matches sdr

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:52 AM

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i'm less interested on matching SDR and more interested on using what i think looks better tbh

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:52 AM

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I mean at the end of the day play with what you think looks nice right

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its just lms already has per-ch blowout in it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:52 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:52 AM

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because it is lms per ch

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:53 AM

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50 seems to match SDR

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:53 AM

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stiff loom 50 seems to match SDR

that sounds right, and blowout 0 for all da colors if you want

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and what the 3 scene grading sliders control is a per-ch displaymapper that runs

ReinhardPiecewise(extended_color, PER_PEAK, 0.18f) (default 5.f / 500 nit)

and then that color gets fed into OKLABHueAndChroma, so with stock settings we get the hue/chroma of a 500 nit per-ch color [which blows out consistently + still has a lot of color; so its not itm]

you need that with Max-Ch displaymapping, because max-ch doesnt blow out; it would be all opaque colors that look kinda bad

LMS has some blowout in it, so you dont need 100/100; maybe just a bit of hue shift if it strays from sdr too much

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:57 AM

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dusty girder that sounds right, and blowout 0 for all da colors if you want

am i allowed to say i kinda like blowout 0 lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:57 AM

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stiff loom am i allowed to say i kinda like blowout 0 lmao

with max ch or lms?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:57 AM

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lms

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:57 AM

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lms 0 is fine

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I play with lms blowout 0, because lms has blowout built in

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set it to max ch and set hue shift and blowout to 0

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and you'll see what I'm talking about

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 5:58 AM

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ok

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yeah

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this looks bad

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LOL

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 5:58 AM

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yea because max ch doesnt blowout at all, which is part of its appeal

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like when sampling luts, you max channel to 1.f and then inverse the scale; that way a channel above 1 never gets fed into a lut

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blowout in hdr mods is always a cat and mouse game

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you "need" it or else things dont look "organic" (max channel 0/0 for example)

but too much of it and you get "sdr/itm"

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:01 AM

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stiff loom

ngl I'm staring at the hair and wondering how they managed to make it not dithered to shit in UE

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:01 AM

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they have some custom order independent transparency shit

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this game is super custom

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 AM

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dusty girder ngl I'm staring at the hair and wondering how they managed to make it not dither...

also hair not looking like shit

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kind of important

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for a game like this

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LMAO

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 AM

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LMAO yea

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but still, good on them

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esp for a gacha game

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 AM

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lms blowout 0 is some good shit actually i like this

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 AM

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they didnt just release slop, or release "mobile on pc"

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 AM

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stiff loom lms blowout 0 is some good shit actually i like this

yea its super colorful

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blues might look a bit differnet, not in a bad way

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they look a bit more "vibrant/lively"

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but yea kinda nuts that they made a whole ass custom ue-overhaul for a mobile gacha game

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idk what the ratio of mobile:pc is; but it shows they care about pc; which a lot of gacha games dont

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masterduel for example is a bare minimum unity port of the mobile client

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where the only buttons that work are:
ESC
LMB
RMB
middle click

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:05 AM

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dusty girder idk what the ratio of mobile:pc is; but it shows they care about pc; which a lot...

this game is PC/PS5 first

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mobile second

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and most people play on PC/PS5

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:05 AM

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you dont really need a lot to play a children's card game, but it would be nice to have a proper pc client

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:05 AM

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like there's an insane amount of posts on reddit/discord

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:05 AM

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stiff loom this game is PC/PS5 first

thats a surprise

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:05 AM

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of people who built PCs or bought a PS5

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to play this game

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because they started on mobile and got tired of it being meh

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:06 AM

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the ps5 bloodborne

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like a console seller

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like how people bought ps4s just to play bloodborne

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:06 AM

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stiff loom of people who built PCs or bought a PS5

is it solid on the ps5? like good value

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like lets say your main game is nikki, and you're tired of mobile; and want to upgrade

would a ps5 pro give you all you'd want out of the game, or would you still want a gigachad pc

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:07 AM

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dusty girder but yea kinda nuts that they made a whole ass custom ue-overhaul for a mobile ga...

this shouldn't be too surprising actually, like the whole shtick of paper is that they keep making high budget/quality games for a female audience,

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:08 AM

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stiff loom this shouldn't be *too* surprising actually, like the whole shtick of paper is t...

I didnt look at their other games

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btw I heard of a chinease female first gacha games

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where you'd like raid bases

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:08 AM

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dusty girder is it solid on the ps5? like good value

PS5 is PC high settings with DRS

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:08 AM

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and like steal prisoners, and well NTR

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:08 AM

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PC high settings gets you everything including SW Lumen

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:09 AM

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and it had a mainly female and gay male audiance, and they loved the game

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:09 AM

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stiff loom PS5 is PC high settings with DRS

IN always uses a DRS with the max of 3840x2160 (100%) and the min of 1536x864 (40%), with performance mode changing the DRS target of 60FPS and the quality mode changing the DRS target to 30FPS.

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i don't know about PS5 Pro

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but i think the 60FPS mode isn't worth it

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it drops visual quality too much

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but it's a dress up platformer, 30FPS is perfectly fine

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:10 AM

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ngl sounds like a ps5 is a solid choice

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:10 AM

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and it hovers around DLSS Quality-ish

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with 30FPS

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with TSR

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which is pretty solid

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:10 AM

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assuming it stays in the dlss quality range for the most part, and isnt constantly hitting the bottom end of DRS

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:10 AM

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it hits the bottom end of DRS if you target 60FPS

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but the 30FPS mode stays on the 60-70% resolution range

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which is solid

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:11 AM

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let me find the gacha game

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:11 AM

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people used to say the ps5 version was bad on release

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because it was capped to 30FPS

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yeah, it was capped to 30FPS, but i'm going to argue that was the correct choice

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because it looks so much fucking better at 30FPS

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they added 60FPS with a patch after people bitched too much

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but the 60FPS is a scam on base PS5

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:12 AM

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man I really want to find that game now

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but google is failing me

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I think I found it

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~~Orisries~~ nope

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:15 AM

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Here's PS5

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Sadly it's sdr only but otherwise

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I play this game on PS5 sometimes and it's pretty solid

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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I mean there is a obvious visual downgrade, but considering its what 400 bucks now

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what is mobile like

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in that scene

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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i don't have the game on my phone rn

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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ah thought you'd google it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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and i can't install it on my phone rn because it's full

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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is it as griefed as the other 2 pics

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:16 AM

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dusty girder I mean there is a obvious visual downgrade, but considering its what 400 bucks n...

actually fuck i just noticed something

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:17 AM

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thats all I have to know

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:17 AM

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probably is

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:17 AM

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stiff loom actually fuck i just noticed something

the hair still isnt griefed

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:17 AM

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i had the ps5 set to save screenshots as jpg

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that's kinda cringe

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:17 AM

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there are compromises everywhere else, like the floor; but thats not a big deal

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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stiff loom i had the ps5 set to save screenshots as jpg

unless its super compressed, why does that matter?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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i think the biggest difference is just

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TSR vs DLSS lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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if TSR = latest gen; thats not that bad

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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it is

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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and at native res its pretty damn good too

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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it's not too bad

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but my screenshots were DLSS Quality

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so you know

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MomoSideEye_sn

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:18 AM

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I mean modern models

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I play dlss balanced 4k 32 inch

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gun to my head I wouldnt be able to tell

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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i'm on a 3070 still

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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like rn I'm playing nioh3, 3x FG (60 to 180) with dlss balanced

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smooth a.f

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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stiff loom i'm on a 3070 still

I had a 3070ti for a few months; I didnt hate it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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it's fine

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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8gb vram was the big one

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:19 AM

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but the new models are super expensive

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to run here

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:20 AM

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stiff loom i'm on a 3070 still

at 3440x1440

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:20 AM

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like the chip itself was ok, but with 8gb vram you had like 6.5gb of effective vram after all the background shit

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:20 AM

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stiff loom at 3440x1440

ya I used it on 3440x1440 too

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to be fair at the time, the 3000 series was the best there was

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and games where 10000x lighter than they are now

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:21 AM

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it's still a solid card outside of the vram memes

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:21 AM

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I thought you got the 5070ti though, the 500$ one

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:22 AM

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i was going to but >lazy

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and then the prices went to the moon

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:22 AM

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sadge

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a good friend in brazil

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one of my longest online friends

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all pc upgrades come from the US

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he has family in the us that visits him every so often

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and they buy the part in the US, and they bring it over whenever they visit

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or else the BR market fucks him

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the thing that blew me away the most is when he told me about the qr code system to pay for shit on steam

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talones or something

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this was years ago

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like you'd scan a qr code, then go to a deli, and then they'd process the bank payment

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and it takes like a day or two or something

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like a money order, but for steam

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:24 AM

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this is the old bar code system from 20 years ago

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we got a modern version of that

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that is a lot better and instant lmao

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)

Pix (payment system)

Pix (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈpiks]) is an instant payment platform created and managed by the monetary authority of Brazil, the Central Bank of Brazil (BCB). It enables instantaneous payments and transfers in Brazilian real 24 hours a day and without interruptions, even outside banking hours, during holidays or weekends, with no fees.
Pix w...

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the thing you mentioned is dead, nobody really uses it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:25 AM

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stiff loom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)

everyone uses this now

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:26 AM

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@stiff loom I FOUND IT I FOUND IT

https://youtu.be/B079kkhxlFM

YouTube

Jenazad

This DEGENERATE Gacha went INSANE

Literally my new favorite hardcore pvp game

Livestream Every Day Here: https://www.twitch.tv/jenazad
For any questions join my discord: https://discord.com/invite/7f7XfQ8XhE

#gacha #jenazad #orisries

▶ Play video

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:26 AM

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stiff loom the thing you mentioned is dead, nobody really uses it

he told me about it pre-2020

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man thats like 6+ years now

swift plover Mar 21, 2026, 6:27 AM

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is this the dress up game

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:27 AM

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I need my glasses

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:27 AM

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actually

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fuck discord cucked me

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1 sec

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so the PS App saves pngs with a jpeg extension

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and discord recompressed the png to jpg

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:28 AM

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swift plover is this the dress up game

no, its like a tactics game; where the winner takes your main gacha waifu for 8h and NTRs them [cant use that unit while somebody has her as a prisoner]

so what the chinease community started to do is assign their settlement all men to troll that their prize would be 18+ scenes with dudes; and the gay community cought on and actually enjoyed it

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and it spiraled out of control

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:29 AM

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actually a fucking png this time

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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stiff loom

this actually looks quite a bit better than the jpeg discord recompressed lol

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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stiff loom

ok yea I see

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the particles arnt as cooked

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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the trees in the background

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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i thought the jpeg looked super weird

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compared to what i was seeing on my screen

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:30 AM

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I remember long ago when I messed around with photoshop

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I got a compression slider when saving something as a jpeg

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and highest quality would look as good as a png

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:31 AM

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if you crank up the quality on jpeg you can get something that looks close to lossless but also weights more

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:33 AM

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you know the community is good

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the video is worth watching

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:39 AM

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stiff loom lms blowout 0 is some good shit actually i like this

i'm comparing the PS5 screenshot to this one, and quite honestly

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the only thing that i think it's a huge loss is the loss of HDR

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like this looks super sad in SDR

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but otherwise

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i think it's solid honestly

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it's worse sure but not too much

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i would happy play this

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:39 AM

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sdr can look good

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:39 AM

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and not feel like i'm missing out

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:40 AM

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look at avatar

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they did a good job with the sdr tonemapping and all that

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so hdr isnt as transformative as it is in other games

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:40 AM

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dusty girder sdr can look good

i'm not saying it can't or even that this looks bad

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but comparing the two side by side

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:40 AM

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they prolly tuned their params right + being stylistic helps

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:40 AM

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i'd much rather have the HDR image

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:40 AM

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the default ue whiteclip is 11.2, which for a realistic game clips like crazy

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but for stylistic/cartoon/anime games, outside of stuff like the fireworks; it prolly doesnt clip that much

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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like i don't think the SDR version is bad looking, it doesn't have the UE look

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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stiff loom like i don't think the SDR version is *bad looking*, it doesn't have the UE look

prolly their params

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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but i do think on this scene the HDR version is huge

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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at the end of the day, just because its the filmic TM; everything is up to the params they slapped in

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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but at the same time this is also like HDR showcase demo scene lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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like remember romancing saga 2

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:41 AM

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that looks nothing like generic filmic

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same exact code, different cbuffers

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:42 AM

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i understand why this happens but i'm just commenting that wow HDR looks really good here

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:42 AM

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prayge

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watch this video

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I was actually blown away

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because it was the most random thing ever

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:43 AM

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dusty girder no, its like a tactics game; where the winner takes your main gacha waifu for 8h...

lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:44 AM

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stiff loom lmao

also it has a "H-SCENE" button, so it wasnt just like "borderline hentai" scenes the popular gachas do

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but full on 18+ scenes

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:44 AM

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dusty girder

LMAO

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but also

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wow

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the HDR does make a difference

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:45 AM

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that musical was the best part of the game

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:45 AM

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anyway why does he have a glowing rgb cape

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:46 AM

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this is the VA btw: https://myanimelist.net/people/160/Takehito_Koyasu

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:46 AM

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stiff loom anyway why does he have a glowing rgb cape

he's like a super energetic gigabrain weeb scientist

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so they tried to make him look as flamboyant as possible

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btw you're into all the dxvk/vulkan stuff

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:48 AM

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dusty girder so they tried to make him look as flamboyant as possible

i see, based

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:48 AM

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is there a shader model 3 version of dxbc_compiler

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so like sm3 cso -> spv

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and then feed that to spriv cross

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:49 AM

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stiff loom i see, based

the game was extermely mid, and mid is being nice

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I got all the endings, and I wasnt like not having fun; but its not a game I'd suggest

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:49 AM

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dusty girder so like sm3 cso -> spv

dxbc-spirv got that last month

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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stiff loom dxbc-spirv got that last month

oh shit lets go

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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though it's a bit early i think

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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I remember you gave me the 50/51 build

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but soon memes will no longer be dreams

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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dxvk doesn't currently use it

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they are working on sm1-3 support tho

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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dusty girder I remember you gave me the 50/51 build

that can do 4.0-5.1 actually

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:50 AM

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since cross doesnt really run into compilation issues, it will prolly be the best sm1-3 hlsl decomp we'll have

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:51 AM

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stiff loom that can do 4.0-5.1 actually

yea, in my head 4 and 5 are the same

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btw you know a lot about amd

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so terraria dx9 is sm2

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the modder upgraded the shader to sm3

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works perfectly on nvidia

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amd = black screen

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even if you replace the shader with return 1 0 1 1

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black screen

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change shader back to sm2_0, works (1 0 1 1)

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sm2 doesnt compile with reno

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amd doesnt like sm2 -> sm3 kekwtf

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:52 AM

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i'm only familiar with amd on the platform with real drivers

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aka linux

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i don't care or know what the shitty proprietary driver on Windows does lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:52 AM

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I'd ask to test on linux, but dx9 mods wont work

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because of the whole 9+11 thing

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:52 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:53 AM

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but yea ngl pretty hype for sm3 cross

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:53 AM

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i was actually working on using dxvk extensions to add native HDR output to dx9 and drop the 11 interop

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:53 AM

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might finally try out FF13, there has to be something

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:53 AM

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but i had to get swapchain proxy working

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and i was lazy and never did that

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lmao

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:53 AM

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stiff loom i was actually working on using dxvk extensions to add native HDR output to dx9 ...

i think this is preferable over dx9 + interop because native dx9 is slow as shit

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compared to dxvk

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:54 AM

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stiff loom but i had to get swapchain proxy working

if thats the only thing that doesnt work, thats still usable; we didnt have a proxy for a long ass time with reno

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only got it with ersh's first basic proxy

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:54 AM

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dusty girder if thats the only thing that doesnt work, thats still usable; we didnt have a pr...

that is in fact the only thing that doesn't work

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but remember

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this is dx9

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most games draw directly to the swapchain

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there's no output shader

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:54 AM

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ah

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yea thats what I was going to ask

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idk a lot about dx9, when it was the main format I just played games

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didnt really understand the tech behind them

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:55 AM

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why do you think

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forcing MSAA works on a lot of dx9 games

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:55 AM

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I do remember having to install the good ole 9.0c redistributable, or a game installing it on first launch

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:55 AM

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MomoKek_sn

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 6:55 AM

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stiff loom forcing MSAA works on a lot of dx9 games

I guess that makes sense, render draws to swapchain, and msaa is a swapchain flag

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I wonder if dx9 is finally dead dead in japan

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we had 2023 new dx9 games

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nope, we got 2025/2026 dx9 games despairge

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ue3 2026 thonk

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Renegade_X

The original open beta version of the multiplayer client was released on February 26, 2014. Version 1.0, officially deemed the "release version", was released exactly 12 years later.

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was it in beta for 12 years, and they kept the API the same

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 6:59 AM

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lmao what the fuck

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btw my favorite shit to showing off HDR to people is just telling them to "open the image on their phones"

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because if they are on iphone they have an actual HDR screen lmao

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(or android flagships)

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:03 AM

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whats cool about hdr is its a "free upgrade"

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like you need a decent monitor, but its not like the monitor is ONLY for hdr; a good hdr monitor is a good monitor in general

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:05 AM

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true

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but i want to explain to normies why do i spend so much time on HDR shit and the best way i found to demonstrate that is just asking them

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what their phone is

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and if they have an OLED screen (they probably do)

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i tell them to open a screenshot on their phones

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it always works lmao

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:07 AM

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dusty girder nope, we got 2025/2026 dx9 games <:despairge:1145854227915223204>

i actually knew we got a 2026 DX9 game

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because uh valve re-released the original CS:GO again

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which is still DX9

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:09 AM

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re-releases dont count imo

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like 2025 we got a proper new game

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a fighting game

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it was just on an ancient engine the studio was using for a decade+

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:11 AM

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is there a way for me to list d3d9 games by year

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on pcgamingwiki?

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:11 AM

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yea, open all the pages

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and then sort

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they like seperated them by name

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kekwsit

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:11 AM

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yeah i didn't want to do that

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this is ass

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:12 AM

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yea thats what I just did lmao

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there is a jp vn

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:12 AM

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WHY

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IS THIS D3D9 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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this is a brand new game lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:15 AM

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@stiff loom btw you where right, I fired up SMT5 in dx11 (so the devkit shows everything), went to an area with an SDR lut, and it has a t0

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dx12 you need to enable trace descriptor tables, and even then it might not show

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:15 AM

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yeah dx12 is a bit jank when it comes to this

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:16 AM

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lets see if it does for fun

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:16 AM

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but the Texture2D with Samplers is an SRV and it should show up there.

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:16 AM

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sadly idk if I cant port smt5 to extended, it relies on custom grading that needs to run in sdr srgb; but thats not the worst part

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the color the grading shader expects is post-filmic grief

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so I'll get the opaque blue sword tier memes if I run extended

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:17 AM

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dusty girder what is mobile like

btw i was curious too because of the particles so i asked a friend who plays on mobile to check

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and she got stuck on shader compilation hell

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:17 AM

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mobile also compiles shaders?

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I guess why wouldnt it, its a computer

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:18 AM

#

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oh my god

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it's so ass

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LMAO

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:18 AM

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does mobile have graphics settings

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:18 AM

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it does

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this is max settings

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:18 AM

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thats so far the best mobile pic I've seen

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the other 2 where like ass ass

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compared to pc its scuffed a.f

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but still, some stuff still doesnt look bad; like the fur leg warmers

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a modern ue5 game might handle them worse on pc

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:19 AM

#

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the particles only show up

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if you get up close

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and even then

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it's still very nerfed

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compared to PC/PS5

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:20 AM

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it looks bland

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:20 AM

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dusty girder but still, some stuff still doesnt look bad; like the fur leg warmers

oh it's not bad

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but you know

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MomoSideEye_sn

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it's a lot worse

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:20 AM

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yea

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I was expecting way worse ngl

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:20 AM

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i wasn't

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the screenshots i sent of mobile were intentionally made to be as unflattering as possible

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but as you said, the character stuff isn't bad

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it's just that busy scenes with a lot of stuff

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tend to look really bad

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:21 AM

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dx12 with descriptor tables doesnt show the sdr lut

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:21 AM

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when compared to PC

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:22 AM

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ps5 was pretty solid too

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:22 AM

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yeah

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i really don't think you are missing out on anything major on ps5

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like you are missing out on some slightly higher graphical presets and hw lumen

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but hw lumen tanks performance and doesn't even look that much better

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over SW Lumen on this game

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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dusty girder dx12 with descriptor tables doesnt show the sdr lut

even sub 1-fps trace all doesnt show it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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so i don't think you are missing out on anything there

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dx12 is sadly just cursed when it comes to this stuff

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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I dont know shit about game dev

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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you really need a graphical debugger to see this stuff accurately on dx12

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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but I wonder why UE didnt take advantage of rt cores

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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dusty girder but I wonder why UE didnt take advantage of rt cores

they do for HW Lumen

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:23 AM

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like for the early UE5 versions I get it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:24 AM

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stiff loom they do for HW Lumen

isnt hw lumen rare and usually custom forks

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not part of core ue?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:24 AM

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it's part of core UE

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:24 AM

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oh?

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swore lumen was all software rt, unless a game had custom PT or something

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:24 AM

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but games have to build DXR pipelines to use it

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which a lot of games don't because HW Lumen is more expensive

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than SW Lumen

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while not being that much better visually

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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what I'm saying is

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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stiff loom which a lot of games don't because HW Lumen is more expensive

this is because HW RT is very strcit on how it works

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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sw lumen is RT right

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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yes it is

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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and it would run better if it took advantage of rt cores on nvidia right

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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no

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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oh

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nvm then

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:25 AM

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because the RT Cores are fixed function

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and more or less require you to do things their own way

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:26 AM

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stiff loom because the RT Cores are fixed function

like they do 1 type of math really really well type shit right

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:26 AM

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yeah

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:26 AM

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stiff loom and more or less require you to do things their own way

which doesn't really work for the way Lumen does things

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which is why HW Lumen while it looks better

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actually has much worse performance

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:27 AM

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ah

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I thought SW Lumen was raytracing that didnt use rt cores for pepega reasons, and if it did it would look the same but run better

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:28 AM

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nah

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https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/ray-tracing-performance-guide-in-unreal-engine?application_version=5.7

Epic Games Developer

Ray Tracing Performance Guide in Unreal Engine | Unreal Engine 5.7 ...

A selection of topics for improving performance of ray tracing features in your Unreal Engine projects.

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:28 AM

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are you ready for aces2 itm

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in ue 5.8+

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:28 AM

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dusty girder I thought SW Lumen was raytracing that didnt use rt cores for pepega reasons, an...

it didn't use RT Cores because it predated RT Cores being a thing, but when they became a thing, they can't take advantage of some of the shortcuts SW Lumen uses to speed things up

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and so as a result it ends up slower

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:29 AM

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5.8+ native hdr will be

-> run the sdr filmic tonemapper

-> inverse sdr filmic tonemapper using the aces2 formula
(so you're inversing with the wrong function)

-> run Aces2 ontop of the inversed color

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:29 AM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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why are they SO FUCKING BAD AT THIS

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OH MY FUCKING GOD

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like i just want to talk with the HDR dude working on UE

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gunmorning

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like what's up with those awful choices

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"there's one autistic graphics programmer"

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marat we're all autistic here

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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ik

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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its what I was told

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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you are only into this shit if you have autism

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but i see

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this makes sense

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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do you have the femboy meme

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I shared long ago

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with c++ on the door

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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no

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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I tried to findit

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for a friend

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:32 AM

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but i think i recall that

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:32 AM

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but I lost it

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basically normal people going in the c++ door, and coming out as felix and astolfo

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but yea you'd think a company with effectivly an infinite budget

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would want to do things right

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:33 AM

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i mean office politics play a huge factor into this so i'm not surprised

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:33 AM

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and with hdr snowballing in popularity, want it to look good

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:33 AM

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this always happens

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:33 AM

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stiff loom i mean office politics play a huge factor into this so i'm not surprised

yea

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:36 AM

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btw i found a thing

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@dusty girder https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/developer-interviews/behind-the-scenes-of-infinity-nikki-tracing-a-glamorous-turn-to-an-unreal-open-world

Unreal Engine

Go Behind the Scenes of ‘Infinity Nikki’

Explore how developer Infold Games switched to Unreal Engine to bring their vision for Infinity Nikki to life—and how they took Nikki from the display window to a vast, whimsical open world.

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:36 AM

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lets c

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:36 AM

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this goes into some detail about the custom shit they did

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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reading this article reminded me

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of the (korean?) sims game

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with RT that ran like shit

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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inZOI

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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what happened with it

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yea!

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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it's still around

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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did it just fizzle out

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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still being developed

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it's actively ok

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:37 AM

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ah

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nice

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btw how much of ue ini tweaks are cope/fake news

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like U+ usually does a good job

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but my understanding is if a game could get free perf from a few ini changes, the devs would ship it

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(unless it was an oversight)

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:38 AM

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there's a lot of flexibility that you can do with UE CVars.

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but there's no such thing as free perf

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:39 AM

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stiff loom there's a lot of flexibility that you can do with UE CVars.

sure, and something like potato mode for FPS is fine

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:39 AM

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stiff loom but there's no such thing as free perf

thats what I'm talking about

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its all either a tradeoff or snakeoil

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:39 AM

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you can get huge perf gains by tweaking lumen/nanite but you are trading off quality for performance here

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and some of those trade offs can be significant

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like you can absolutely murder nanite/lumen quality if you want to

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:40 AM

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ngl whats the current take on nanite

when it was being marketed as "infinite LOD for free" i was kind of hype

when I tried remnant 2, I was impressed; it genuinly feels like perfect LOD all the time

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but then you have games that either have shit implementation, or popin; so nanite doesnt do as well

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:40 AM

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Nanite is cool but you need to know how/when/where to use it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:42 AM

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The art style underwent numerous trials and validations by both the art team and technical artists (TA). The producer wanted to find the right balance between cartoon fantasy and realism. The lighting model in Unreal Engine is derived from Disney's PBR (physically based rendering) model, so despite the high proportion of cartoon elements, our lighting calculations follow PBR standards. This enabled us to give our models unique styles with realistic texture.

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didnt expect disney to pop up

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:42 AM

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uh

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you need to learn more about computer graphics then

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because Disney/Pixar did a lot of shit

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they did the PBR model every engine uses

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because here's the secret of stylized vs realistic graphics

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it's all sort of the same

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:43 AM

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stiff loom because here's the secret of stylized vs realistic graphics

like we're all trying to simulate reality here, this is just artstyle

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but the fundamentals of how shit like lighting works don't change

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it either works the same as it does on our real world or it will look fucked

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and we can tell it looks fucked

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and while sure, doing something that doesn't simulate our reality might be cool for an horror game or whatnot

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it's usually not the way to go about it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:44 AM

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stiff loom because Disney/Pixar did a lot of shit

ik pixar had hours per frame RT back in the ants days

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as in ants the movie

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this is a good read

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:45 AM

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they are pioneers in computer graphics

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:45 AM

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they talk about how their GI helped make characters look how they wanted

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reminds me of the PT on/off RE9 meme

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with the girl

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pt off = no shadows = uncanny

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pt on = looks good

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because natural shadows make her look normal

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:45 AM

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stiff loom Nanite is cool but you need to know how/when/where to use it

like there are some things that if you use Nanite on, it will murder your performance, like foilage

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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dusty girder but then you have games that either have shit implementation, or popin; so nanit...

this is because nanite needs content to be authored for it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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but imo the biggest reason nikki looks good is because it sounds like the devs "had a plan"

like they know what they wanted their game to look like

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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and nanite doesn't work on every thing

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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stiff loom like there are some things that if you use Nanite on, it will murder your perfor...

I thought foilage is part of what you want

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and what LOD griefs the most

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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dusty girder I thought foilage is part of what you want

no actually

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nanite is really bad at handling it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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like low lod foilage is like jagged pixels

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:46 AM

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it got eventually updated to support it

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but it's still WIP

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:47 AM

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and high lod foilage is like actual strands

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:47 AM

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explaining why nanite is bad for foilage would require me to explain the technical details behind it which i'm a bit lazy to do rn

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but uh

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it's bad actually ™

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:48 AM

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In terms of scene lighting, our technical and art teams collaboratively developed a tone mapping effect to establish the unique artistic style of Nikki's expansive world. GI parameter adjustments and modifications in occlusion and GI tracking were made to maintain the image's integrity while ensuring distinctive GI features, thus achieving the game's unique visual style.

the shader is generic ue filmic -- they prolly tuned the params; or they're bunching in tonemapping with overall colorgrading (not just the curve that squishes the color)

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:48 AM

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stiff loom explaining why nanite is bad for foilage would require me to explain the technic...

nah dont, I trust

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:48 AM

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stiff loom and nanite doesn't work on every thing

so basically, for a given game, not everything will be using nanite

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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I just remember seeing a demo pre ue5 release

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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you can mix nanite and non-nanite content

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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and it showed the world in these colored like balls

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to represenent nanite

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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nanite is a technology that you kinda need to develop for

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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and every "pixel" in the world was nanite

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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you can't just like

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take an ue4 game that never used nanite

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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but it was also a tech demo

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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and upgrade it to use nanite

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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stiff loom nanite is a technology that you kinda *need* to develop for

that makes sense

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:49 AM

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stiff loom and upgrade it to use nanite

it doesn't work

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:50 AM

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https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/dynamic-lighting-e3a5b1003623.mp4

▶ Play video

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thats a pretty game

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:50 AM

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it is pretty

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:50 AM

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dusty girder ``` In terms of scene lighting, our technical and art teams collaboratively dev...

indeed

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they are tweaking the params

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:50 AM

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and it does have that

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"disney x anime" vibe

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:51 AM

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stiff loom they are tweaking the params

the post lutbuiler shit doesn't do a lot

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:51 AM

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atleast in that pic

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:51 AM

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stiff loom the post lutbuiler shit doesn't do a lot

so the lutbuilder starts off going to linear, then doing all the colorgrading, and then ap1 and then it does the filmic TM stuff

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:51 AM

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the lutbuilders the game uses are pratically untouched too

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:51 AM

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yea

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they're all generic

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thing is colorgrading (pre untonemapped ap1, like way ontop)

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can have a pretty big impact

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the nuke color grading section

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are the vids on the page how the game actually looks while playing on pc

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or is it a "juiced up tech demo"

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:53 AM

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it is yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:54 AM

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man if every ue game looked like that, people would praise it as the best engine on the planet

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inf nikki shows its possible, just requires work

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https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/skeletion-compressed-7ef1a40049e4.mp4

▶ Play video

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like compare this to

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timestamp: https://youtu.be/VFB9gmJr-MU?t=262

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for context: CV2 runs like horseshit; at 4k dlss quality or balanced idr; I'd struggle to get 80-90 fps in the open world

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ended up playing using optifg + xess fg

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no rt, nothing; just a bad game

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:56 AM

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dusty girder https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/skeletion-compressed-7ef1a40049e4.mp4

this looks like you're actually running through a fantasy world

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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I mean UE will give you a solid base to work on, but if you make content without giving a shit about performance it will run bad no matter what, and it also can't give you good art

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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dusty girder timestamp: <https://youtu.be/VFB9gmJr-MU?t=262>

this looks like fake cardboard cutouts with no life to it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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stiff loom I mean UE will give you a solid base to work on, but if you make content without...

imo I dont like the people who shit on UE as a whole

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imo its a tool

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and its how you use it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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stiff loom I mean UE will give you a solid base to work on, but if you make content without...

like a game looking good is more than technology

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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if you just do the bare minimum to ship a game, ofc it looks like shit

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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there's no amount of technology that can save bad art

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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stiff loom there's no amount of technology that can save bad art

for sure

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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and it's just that it turns out a lot of people don't care too much about that

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 7:57 AM

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look at fromsoft games, or nioh2

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ps3 graphics, but the artsyle carries it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:01 AM

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dusty girder imo I dont like the people who shit on UE as a whole

i don't like it either

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like, while it is a tool

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:02 AM

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like one theory out there is it makes people easier to hire out of college

instead of teaching students all the "boomer coding" -- just teach UE, and they're ready to work

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:02 AM

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at the end of the day it's just the most popular engine to use out there

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which means people will churn out slop with it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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isnt unity the slop engine

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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both are the slop engine

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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I guess ue is the expensive slop

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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unity is the mobile slop engine

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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the 70$+ slop

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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ue is the desktop/console slop engine

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get on with the times

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:03 AM

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I guess at one point every game I fired up wa sunity

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but it wasnt bad

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:04 AM

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stiff loom like, while it *is* a tool

now, UE as a tool

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has problems

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some of those problems are just devs misusing it

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some of those problems are epic's fault

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like there is some shit on UE that is actually just bad

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and it is just Epic's fault

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like HDR

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:04 AM

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stiff loom some of those problems are epic's fault

pretty much all the tonemapping/hdr is straight up epic's fault at this point

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:04 AM

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yeah

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:04 AM

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yea

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like

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ini hdr (no mods, just ersh's old ui fix shader)

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with aces1

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isnt bad hdr

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like remember the old ue4ss zip I made

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that forced output device, with the shader replace addon, and shaders ersh made that ungriefed the srgb encoded ui

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outside of games with sdr luts, it was servicible hdr; like a better experiance over sdr

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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i mean it's not bad when it's used on games that don't use SDR color grading

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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aces2 will be a whole new tier of grief

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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but the problem is

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SDR is bad lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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stiff loom i mean it's not *bad* when it's used on games that don't use SDR color grading

yea wont work on lets say romancing saga that messes with the filmic params

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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I think ACESv1 is bad and while you can sort of color grade it to make it less bad

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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because sdr looks nothing like ACES

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:06 AM

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it's still bad lmao

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same thing for their ACES approximation

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:07 AM

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the point is at the time, when all the other alternatives where ITM

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I'd happily play a game with aces1.x (the one that added blue correct; 1.3 I think?)

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:07 AM

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I mean i'm ignoring HDR here, because the HDR implementation is service when it works, it being fixed nits is a bit sus but sure fine.

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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but aces2 based on pumbo's pics from the actual project file + crimson desert

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is going to be straight grief

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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stiff loom I mean i'm ignoring HDR here, because the HDR implementation is service when it ...

ue 5.1 or 5.2 added scaling

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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stiff loom I mean i'm ignoring HDR here, because the HDR implementation is service when it ...

but i think the SDR tonemapping/color grading shit is just bad

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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but yea before that it was 1000 or 2000

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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stiff loom but i think the SDR tonemapping/color grading shit is just bad

yep, filmic stuff in general is bad

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:08 AM

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stiff loom but i think the SDR tonemapping/color grading shit is just bad

and like

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you can not change the tonemapper without modifying the engine and it will FIGHT YOU if you try to do that

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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but when a game is built around it with dynamic paramaters; you gotta live with it or get a completely different look

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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stiff loom you can not change the tonemapper without modifying the engine and it will FIGHT...

yep

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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you either go the filmic way

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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like in SMT5

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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or go home

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:09 AM

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the texture of the MC's sword is opaque blue

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like literally

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this

left ferry Mar 21, 2026, 8:10 AM

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dusty girder aces2 will be a whole new tier of grief

Is Aces 2 code available in reno yet?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:10 AM

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like there's a lot of shit on UE it's bad, devs know it's bad, but Epic won't fix it out of what feels like pride

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:10 AM

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and all the meme grading + filmic memes is what blows it out to white

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:10 AM

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"we know what we're doing shut the fuck up"

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:10 AM

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left ferry Is Aces 2 code available in reno yet?

look in #1469072401450012774

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when aces2 was announced, I had a bit of cope that it might look good enough that mods wouldnt be needed anymore for a decent native hdr on experiance

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since they'd scale by luminance and shit

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but they had to find a way to ruin it

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:22 AM

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dusty girder this looks like you're actually running through a fantasy world

this game is actually just absurdly pretty*
*on PC/PS5 MomoKek_sn

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:27 AM

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stiff loom this game is actually just absurdly pretty* *on PC/PS5 <:MomoKek_sn:868315065412...

even the strands of grass look nice

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:27 AM

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dusty girder are the vids on the page how the game actually looks while playing on pc

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the place from the video you sent lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:28 AM

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so what do they make you

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do for your "daily chores"

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like every gacha game has some bullshit that you grind out

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jump puzzles?

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:29 AM

#

#

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there's energy and you can gather materials and shit

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:29 AM

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dusty girder do for your "daily chores"

the dailies are super quick to do actually

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but the gameplay is basically just jumping puzzles + collecting shit from the open-world

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:31 AM

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do you see other people

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like an mmo?

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or is it all instanced like I think genshin

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where its a 1p game that phones home to a server, but you can invite a friend to your hub/house or something

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:39 AM

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it's mostly a single player game

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but there's a online co-op hub

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where you an see and interact with other people

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(up to like 40 people)

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though open-world is restricted to co-op with just a friend (so 2 people)

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it is mostly a single player game with some minor co-op and online elements

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like one thing this game does

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is that you can place hourglasses anywhere in the world with a picture

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and it will show up to other players

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like messages on souls games

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it's pretty cute ™

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i'm not done shilling this game graphics yet

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i'll cheat a bit and use camera mode this time lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:49 AM

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stiff loom it's mostly a single player game

I was thinking of when I played arma3 life

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its like irl simulator

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and you just hang out with people

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and there is proximity voice

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and roleplay

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like I drove a f150 to the steel factory

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that was my job

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and was saving money to buy an oil drill

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so I was thinking it would be kind of cool to have an anime "arma life" where you RP

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and there are other people also rping

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I guess thats ff14 in a way

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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well yeah

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but also the problem of making a game like this an mmo is that uh

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you can't have characters/worlds this detailed

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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is it a static char

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like a char with a name

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and backstory

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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if you have to render a lot of people

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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or you make your char with a char creator

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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you play an actual character

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with a story and shit

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:50 AM

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stiff loom you play an actual character

ah

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yea rip

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:51 AM

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stiff loom if you have to render a lot of people

it seems most of the "rendering budget" went to making 1 char look good

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so yea multiple people would probably blow up

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:51 AM

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there's no character creator, the only thing you can do is change nikki's skin tone, though you can customize nikki's face a lot with makeup and some skills that change her actual face lmao

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:51 AM

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dusty girder it seems most of the "rendering budget" went to making 1 char look good

i mean

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yeah lmao

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you can notice this

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on the co-op area

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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oh shit tell me

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how does it scale

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from 1p -> 2p in frame

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and so on

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esp with fancy costumes

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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so by default everyone shows up as ghosts and you have to request to illuminate them to see their clothing and stuff

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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ngl thats smart

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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the more players you iluminate

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the worse it runs

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lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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so whats the diff between 1p vs. 2p (illuminated) vs. 3

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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like having 5 players illuminated on screen causes me to lose 25% of performance lmao

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 AM

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like % scale

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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stiff loom like having 5 players illuminated on screen causes me to lose 25% of performance...

oh thats not horrible

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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it's not horrible

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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assuming all 5 players have the same high quality

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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but you do notice it

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they do

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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yea I was expecting 1 more to already kick your fps down a bit

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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it does

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but not by a lot

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like 2-3fps

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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yea thats fine

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:53 AM

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i actually thinks

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it murders performance more on mobile

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:54 AM

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ngl ghosts are prolly better than rendering low-quality versions ruining the "immersion"

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our brains are funky

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like if they see something wrong, they'll notice it right away

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but when everything is chill, it'll go along with the "illusion"

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so if you had your char rendered perfectly and an online player that was rendered with "low graphics" -- it would prolly kill the vibe

stiff loom Mar 21, 2026, 8:57 AM

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dusty girder ngl ghosts are prolly better than rendering low-quality versions ruining the "im...

yeah

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the ghosts aren't ugly either

thick patio Mar 21, 2026, 8:58 AM

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That’s sad
And game is family category, so mod makers probably not very interested to waste time for fixing it

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 8:59 AM

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stiff loom the ghosts aren't ugly either

oh wow

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o shit its 5am, isnt it like 7am whre you're at

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I'm off

marble hearth Mar 21, 2026, 9:44 AM

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I'm trying the addon on High on Life (first one) and it works... I mean I think it is. But do I need the engine.ini tweaks? Because when I use them I get a black screen ingame only with HUD visible.

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[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

marble hearth Mar 21, 2026, 9:44 AM

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marble hearth [SystemSettings] r.AllowHDR=1 r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1 r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice...

These I mean

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 9:54 AM

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Can someone explain why we are supposed to **disable **HDR in game settings?
With Wuchang 1.4.1 everything was fine with this recommandation, but since I've upgraded to 1.7 if I let HDR disabled, the game set r.HDR.EnableHDROuput = "0" in the console and I get washed out SDR.
I need to enable HDR in game settings, and the image seems to look OK.

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With HDR disabled in game settings :

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With it enabled :

C__Games_Steam_steamapps_common_Wuchang_Fallen_Feathers_Project_Plague_Binaries_Win64_Project_Plague-Win64-Shipping.exe_21_03_2026_10_48_39.png

swift plover Mar 21, 2026, 10:09 AM

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alpine ermine Can someone explain why we are supposed to **disable **HDR in game settings? Wit...

With hdr enabled the use a different shader that’s missing the color grading

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 10:16 AM

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swift plover With hdr enabled the use a different shader that’s missing the color grading

But what is technically the difference between sending r.HDR.EnableHDROuput via engine.ini and via console? This shouldn't be the same?

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Oh you mean the game does more than enabling HDR if set in the game settings, it use a different shader... understood

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So my only solution would be to find a way to send r.HDR.EnableHDROuput via the console and letting HDR off in game settings?

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Just tested sending r.HDR.EnableHDROuput 1 in the console, it stays in SDR, this command is not dynamically taken. I'm screwed.
I'll stay with reno + vanilla shader (looks fine though)

swift plover Mar 21, 2026, 10:37 AM

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alpine ermine But what is technically the difference between sending r.HDR.EnableHDROuput via ...

oh idk

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prob same

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just that if enabling hdr with their in game slider it uses a different shader

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 10:42 AM

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swift plover just that if enabling hdr with their in game slider it uses a different shader

Yes but as of 1.7 (or 1.5 or 1.6 idk I made the jump from 1.4.1) the dev force r.HDR.EnableHDROuput command after the engine.ini reading, so it's not possible anymore to use reno shader :S
We would have to find a way to enforce r.HDR.EnableHDROuput 1 after the one sent by the game

open fulcrum Mar 21, 2026, 10:48 AM

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how can u make FG work with unreal engine renodx

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(ll dlss fix work on an amd sys)

fallen drum Mar 21, 2026, 6:44 PM

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alpine ermine Yes but as of 1.7 (or 1.5 or 1.6 idk I made the jump from 1.4.1) the dev force r...

#1411800884303626311 message

pastel sand Mar 21, 2026, 6:55 PM

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Was there a site with all the games that work with Extended?

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 6:58 PM

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fallen drum https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1411800884303626311/14847413447...

I don't have access to your link :

fallen drum Mar 21, 2026, 7:01 PM

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alpine ermine I don't have access to your link :

you need the wuchang role under "Channels & Roles" in the Ultra+ server

austere root Mar 21, 2026, 8:23 PM

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@peak galleon stand corrected it is pretty breathtaking don't want to spoil but near the end it's insane

peak galleon Mar 21, 2026, 8:23 PM

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austere root <@223848244210434048> stand corrected it is pretty breathtaking don't want to sp...

Told ya

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 8:24 PM

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swift plover With hdr enabled the use a different shader that’s missing the color grading

So I've installed the U+ reno FG fix (thanks @fallen drum !), but the color grading is exactly the same with fix and HDR off in game settings than with only reno and HDR on in game settings.
So it seems even with HDR enabled in game, reno can apply its shaders just fine :

fallen drum Mar 21, 2026, 8:34 PM

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alpine ermine So I've installed the U+ reno FG fix (thanks <@1055577886909804715> !), but the ...

Reno probably works with ingame HDR on but iirc all of the luts used in sdr are skipped if you toggle ingame HDR. The main menu might not be using a lut, idk

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 10:09 PM

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fallen drum Reno probably works with ingame HDR on but iirc all of the luts used in sdr are ...

I think it is because if you play with lut strength you see the difference, being in title menu or "real" map

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 10:13 PM

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alpine ermine I think it is because if you play with lut strength you see the difference, bein...

lut strength is super obvious in the first area

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either way jon extensivly tested the game, native hdr on = bad

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ini tweaks or the sdr path if you dont need framegen = good

alpine ermine Mar 21, 2026, 10:38 PM

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idk, I'm just saying that wether with reno on + ini tweaks + hdr in game on OR reno on + ini tweaks + u+ fix + hdr in game off, it's exactly the same

dusty girder Mar 21, 2026, 11:05 PM

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alpine ermine idk, I'm just saying that wether with reno on + ini tweaks + hdr in game on OR r...

@alpine ermine when native hdr is on, do the sliders work in reno?

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 12:38 AM

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@regal kayak I think Wu Chang fixed their native hdr [atleast when it comes to the lutbuilders used; so it can be modded via ue-extended]

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lut strength + scaling works

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I dont see a visible difference vs. ini tweaks and

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native hdr

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only downside is their window behavior

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its using 0xc496b5c3 this scene, with is the sdr lutbuilder with 3 sdr luts

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it seems the game can be safely played with native hdr on

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I might just default it to that

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looks the same as sdr/ini tweaks

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feels like its time to suggest hdr on for wu chang // default addon.cpp to use the native hdr

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I wonder if there is a way to read the default settings array, and if the default settings suggest using the hdr path; a message shows up in the imgui saying "please enable native hdr in game"

alpine ermine Mar 22, 2026, 1:51 AM

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dusty girder <@508040466575392828> when native hdr is on, do the sliders work in reno?

Yes, everything works the same

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 2:13 AM

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alpine ermine Yes, everything works the same

yea I just tested it, it seems native hdr on works just fine

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atleast in the starting area

quasi garden Mar 22, 2026, 7:12 AM

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Lords of the Fallen (2023)

📎 lutbuilder_new_0x3CB03848.ps_6_6.cso 📎 lutbuilder_0x9DF2DDD4.ps_6_6.cso 📎 lutbuilder_0xBBB5CA7B.ps_6_6.cso

twilit lantern Mar 22, 2026, 3:28 PM

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Does dumping luts only dump new ones? Because Lords of the Fallen is already on the wiki

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 4:18 PM

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Sorry for the late reply wasn't at home so couldn't try, just for your information in game sliders does work and at the middle it looks a bit crushed.

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 6:21 PM

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bronze pumice Sorry for the late reply wasn't at home so couldn't try, just for your informati...

open and close equipment for sliders to update

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 7:21 PM

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quasi garden **Lords of the Fallen (2023)**

@quasi garden all the lutbuilders are in the game, just for fun try the native hdr

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and make sure you set Upgrade Path to off in UE Extended (if thats what you're using)

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if you're not using ue-extended, the game already works just fine with UE Generic

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 8:18 PM

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dusty girder open and close equipment for sliders to update

Yeah I already got that. What I mean is these sliders. These are still affecting HDR settings. So it's hard to adjust.

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If you mean change these sliders and then go into the character screen, that doesn't change anything.

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 8:26 PM

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which addon are you using

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whats the name of it

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unrealengine or ue-extended

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if its name is unrealengine, play with native hdr off

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 10:11 PM

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It is the extended one

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 10:26 PM

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extended might work with just native hdr on, and "processing path" set to off in the renodx settings (restart game)

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the lutbuilders are there, composite shader might be there too since there arnt a lot of them

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give it a go

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 10:28 PM

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Okay, let me try that quickly. Was trying non extended build with sdr. It feels a bit desaturated compared to base game. I didn't think scene change requirement was also needed in this game so I thought none of them worked correctly.

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It looks like upgrade path was already off

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 10:35 PM

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so whats wrong

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if you set the dechroma slider to 100, and restart the game

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is the game black and white?

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 10:42 PM

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It might be that I was delusional all the time.

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Dechroma change works without restarting, going in to inventory and out. I think the issue is in game brightness slider at middle might be not the balanced option.

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Too much is lost when it's at the middle. Increasing a bit helps.

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Left is how I adjusted just now and on the right is when I place it in the middle

dusty girder Mar 22, 2026, 11:09 PM

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bronze pumice Dechroma change works without restarting, going in to inventory and out. I think...

make sure all the ingame brightness settings are default

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if its too dark, disable gamma correction or increase shadows

bronze pumice Mar 22, 2026, 11:44 PM

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Wish there was a reset button to switch to default settings but at least I know that it works correctly now. Thanks and sorry for bothering

dusty girder Mar 23, 2026, 12:26 AM

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d.w

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asking for help doesnt bother anybody

bold hawk Mar 23, 2026, 8:00 PM

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Hello. Echo Point Nova with dlss looks washed out (tried recommended upgrades, didn't work). Dumped lutbuilders, seems one is new

📎 renodx.zip

desert heron Mar 24, 2026, 2:55 AM

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eyy finally got timesplitters rewind to upgrade

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I just set everything to output size and hoped for the best

desert heron Mar 25, 2026, 12:00 AM

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only issue is this game is so god damn dark

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ok sdr grading bypass seems to remedy that

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man this game fucking hates you

simple wind Mar 25, 2026, 7:44 AM

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I was trying to run Soundfall with latest snapshot and it just runs out of the box. I didn't need to change any setting. (I couldn't see any info about it on the github so I wrote this here. I will play it in next weeks and update if I see any anomaly)

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I am not sure if someone could help me out but I am a bit confused:

there is a brightness slider in the game and to me it looks like a gamma slider:

Default is 50.

How can I find out what in-game brightness setting is using gamma 2.2? (I am a bit confused because renodx is already using gamma correction = 2.2 so if the game is already 2.2 it would look "wrong", right?)

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50 looks correct to my eyes but I would like to know if there is any way to check what exact gamma it is using. Thanks in advance.

digital oak Mar 25, 2026, 7:49 AM

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always choose the default value in any game

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gamma correction just emulates the sdr eotf when in hdr nothing to do with this

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it too should be left at default

simple wind Mar 25, 2026, 7:51 AM

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Alright. Thanks a lot :))

slim fractal Mar 26, 2026, 5:20 PM

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Hi ! I played Mortal Kombat 1 today with UE extended and the blacks are crushed. With some of the darker combat stages there is totally no details anymore. Someone else played the game recently ?

regal kayak Mar 26, 2026, 8:21 PM

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wonder if screamer will just work

slim fractal Mar 26, 2026, 8:22 PM

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regal kayak wonder if screamer will just work

screamer ?

regal kayak Mar 26, 2026, 8:23 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2814990/Screamer/

Steam

Screamer

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Price

$59.99

Recommendations

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slim fractal Mar 26, 2026, 8:23 PM

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Ah sorry I thought you were responding to me 😅

regal kayak Mar 26, 2026, 8:23 PM

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ah no lol

fervent lodge Mar 26, 2026, 8:28 PM

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screamer's got hdr support, but you have to choose between either 1000 and 2000 peak lol

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nothing else

zinc onyx Mar 26, 2026, 8:45 PM

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I figured that would be the case, every Milestone game I've played has been default UE HDR 1000/2000

zinc onyx Mar 26, 2026, 8:46 PM

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slim fractal Hi ! I played Mortal Kombat 1 today with UE extended and the blacks are crushed....

I haven't played recently, but did the UI look fine to you? Nothing broken?

slim fractal Mar 26, 2026, 8:55 PM

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zinc onyx I haven't played recently, but did the UI look fine to you? Nothing broken?

I haven't really focused my attention on the UI to be honest, all I could see was that the game was a lot darker than the last time I played.

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But what do you mean exactly by broken ?

dusty girder Mar 26, 2026, 8:58 PM

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mk1 is cooked

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there is prolly a shader that comes after the lutbuilder, and it needs some custom code

zinc onyx Mar 26, 2026, 9:00 PM

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slim fractal But what do you mean exactly by broken ?

I don't have any screenshots but basically anything UI was bugged, wrong colors, pure white turned black, stuff like that

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I think I was the first to try to get MK1 working with the UE generic mod but I couldn't get the UI fixed at all

slim fractal Mar 26, 2026, 9:07 PM

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zinc onyx I think I was the first to try to get MK1 working with the UE generic mod but I ...

When I played it last time the only problem was in the menu otherwise it was all good

zinc onyx Mar 26, 2026, 9:14 PM

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slim fractal When I played it last time the only problem was in the menu otherwise it was all...

Interesting, I'll have to try it out again sometime then

bold hawk Mar 27, 2026, 2:24 AM

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bold hawk Hello. Echo Point Nova with dlss looks washed out (tried recommended upgrades, d...

@dusty girder sorry for tagging you, but can you add this shaders?

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 2:35 AM

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bold hawk Hello. Echo Point Nova with dlss looks washed out (tried recommended upgrades, d...

sorry completely forgot

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give me 3 minutes

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@bold hawk

📎 renodx-ue-extended.addon64

sturdy lagoon Mar 27, 2026, 2:45 AM

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zinc onyx I figured that would be the case, every Milestone game I've played has been defa...

Is there No ini file or sumn?

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 2:57 AM

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if ya'll need something done, ping me like every 2 days or something

I might've made a to-do list but got sidetracked

regal kayak Mar 27, 2026, 3:13 AM

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fervent lodge screamer's got hdr support, but you have to choose between either 1000 and 2000 ...

sounds like typical UE HDR then

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:14 AM

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Wukong's game specific mod seems to be broken since the January update. Renaming dxgi didn't help. But I assume UE mod supercedes the game-specific mod?

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I did manage to launch it without issues at first, but it doesn't launch now after I tried to restart the game

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:19 AM

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restive rain Wukong's game specific mod seems to be broken since the January update. Renaming...

Nvm, looks like it was RHI installing d3d9 instead of dxgi

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:22 AM

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regal kayak sounds like typical UE HDR then

old too

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:23 AM

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dusty girder <@403466264569184269>

@restive rain download this and just manually do the ini tweaks

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wu kong standalone is basically depricated

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and akuru moved it all over to that

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:23 AM

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Aaand, it crashes again

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:23 AM

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dusty girder wu kong standalone is basically depricated

Got it, thanks

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:23 AM

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you have to set the processing path to off and restart the game (change settings to advanced, processing path off, restart game in the reno mod) + ini tweaks

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:30 AM

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restive rain Aaand, it crashes again

if you keep having issues in wukong specifically, try renaming dxgi.dll to dxgi.asi and using Ultimate ASI Loader or some other loader to load it

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:32 AM

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dusty girder you have to set the processing path to off and restart the game (change settings...

I don't need ini tweaks if I'm not gonna be using slopgen, right?

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:32 AM

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restive rain I don't need ini tweaks if I'm not gonna be using slopgen, right?

uh

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you still want them

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for that game

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I forgot the reason why, but the game does something special

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:32 AM

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Got it

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:32 AM

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the wu kong addon automatically applies ini tweaks

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but you're right, but literally any other game

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if you dont care about FG

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assuming the sdr path/upgrades doesnt grief your perf or create artifacts

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you can just use the sdr path/no ini tweaks

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wu kong with no pt + fg sounds like a sad time

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I played it on release on a 4090 dlss perf and 2x fg (all we had at the time)

and it was solid

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:34 AM

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dusty girder wu kong with no pt + fg sounds like a sad time

With PT, but only at 30 fps Stronge

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:34 AM

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sadly the game was kinda mid

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:34 AM

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restive rain With PT, but only at 30 fps <:Stronge:1442285847951970557>

But it's okay

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:35 AM

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restive rain With PT, but only at 30 fps <:Stronge:1442285847951970557>

I think the 4090 with 4k dlss perf barely hit 60

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5090 can go above 60 KEKWFake

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||I just spent a bunch of money on yugioh packs, and didnt even get everything I need||

zinc onyx Mar 27, 2026, 3:36 AM

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sturdy lagoon Is there No ini file or sumn?

No clue in screamer's case, but their previous games I've played have been the same default UE stuff, requiring fullscreen too.

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:36 AM

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@restive rain if you want, you can try no ini tweaks

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you'll need to upgrade RGB10_a2 to output size

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it might cost you a fps or 2

bold hawk Mar 27, 2026, 3:37 AM

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dusty girder sorry completely forgot

Np. Will check a bit later, thanks!

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:40 AM

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dusty girder <@243128864501399554> if you want, you can try no ini tweaks

Still crashes. Opened the game, barely managed to off processing path at 3 fps while shaders were recompiling, killed the process (shader comp too long), relaunched, crashed. Gonna do the ini tweaks now after all gigachad

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:41 AM

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restive rain Still crashes. Opened the game, barely managed to off processing path at 3 fps w...

i had the same problem, this specifically fixed it #1411800884303626311 message

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there are people on nexus complaining about a black screen since december

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:43 AM

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With ue ext? That's what I'm trying now

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:43 AM

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yeah, either one

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:44 AM

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restive rain Still crashes. Opened the game, barely managed to off processing path at 3 fps w...

if you want to try the sdr path (no ini tweaks) you need processing path on

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off = native hdr/ini tweaks
on = sdr path (upgrades)

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:46 AM

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Just did the ini tweaks, let's see

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:47 AM

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I think wu kong only needs 1 line

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r.HDR.EnableHDROutput set to 1

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:49 AM

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Hmm

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Still crashes

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:49 AM

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dusty girder `r.HDR.EnableHDROutput` set to 1

Was set already

calm slate Mar 27, 2026, 3:50 AM

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Posting for a friend who is playing Retro Rewind - Video Store Simulator I don't think this game is supported yet with UE reno. I believe I did it correctly using the dev-kit with the auto dump. I did it with the demo but I think it should be the same as the full game.

📎 Retro_Rewind_-_Video_Store_Simulator.7z

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:50 AM

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it's not renodx specifically, I couldn't get ReLimiter to load either, the dll is just loading too early or something

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hence loading as asi

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:50 AM

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fallen drum if you keep having issues in wukong specifically, try renaming dxgi.dll to dxgi....

Will try this

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:50 AM

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i installed ASI loader as winmm, not sure if it makes a difference in this case

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:53 AM

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Done

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Working now

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Thanks, everyone

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:53 AM

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fallen drum i installed ASI loader as winmm, not sure if it makes a difference in this case

This wasn't necessary

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Finally

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Some monke

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:54 AM

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what wasn't necessary, loading as winmm or the loader in general?

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:54 AM

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Winmm

fallen drum Mar 27, 2026, 3:54 AM

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ahh, yeah that was just the first name I tried

dusty girder Mar 27, 2026, 3:55 AM

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restive rain Was set already

prolly by the bmw mod

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enjoy the mid game

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govnovos sim is better

sturdy lagoon Mar 27, 2026, 3:55 AM

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zinc onyx No clue in screamer's case, but their previous games I've played have been the s...

rip, bros are not cooking

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:55 AM

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fallen drum ahh, yeah that was just the first name I tried

Just dinput8 worked

restive rain Mar 27, 2026, 3:56 AM

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dusty girder enjoy the mid game

Dropped Wuchang in the end, hopefully this is at least somewhat decent, was on the radar for a while

#Unreal Engine

I was trying to run Soundfall with latest snapshot and it just runs out of the box. I didn't need to change any setting. (I couldn't see any info about it on the github so I wrote this here. I will play it in next weeks and update if I see any anomaly)