Unreal Engine

[dusty girder]

you can also ask AI, here is an example convo

you feed it 2 shaders, one with named cbuffers one without

https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/FpFMkqZRvidvazp6ZH4L5

[tulip kayak]

i'll plan to just properly patch one shader and let ai do the rest

instruction pilling AI is my new hobby

[dusty girder]

its no thard, but its not as straight forward as shortfuse's ue-generic thats tonemappass

[tulip kayak]

[dusty girder]

if the decomp has named lutbuilders

its literally this

  UECbufferConfig cb_config = CreateCbufferConfig();
  cb_config.ue_filmblackclip = FilmBlackClip;
  cb_config.ue_filmtoe = FilmToe;
  cb_config.ue_filmshoulder = FilmShoulder;
  cb_config.ue_filmslope = FilmSlope;
  cb_config.ue_filmwhiteclip = FilmWhiteClip;
  cb_config.ue_tonecurveammount = ToneCurveAmount;
  cb_config.ue_mappingpolynomial = MappingPolynomial;
  cb_config.ue_overlaycolor = OverlayColor;
  cb_config.ue_bluecorrection = BlueCorrection;
  cb_config.ue_colorscale = ColorScale;

  SV_Target = ProcessLutbuilder(float3(_787, _789, _791), cb_config, SV_Target, OutputDevice);
  return SV_Target;

sm6 has named decomps a lot

in that case its free

also if the lutbuilder has an sdr lut

you have to feed it to processlutbuilder()

the sampler and texture

[tulip kayak]

let me check the current ones

[dusty girder]

also you need the lutweights cbuffer, ai sucks at that

so you have to map it yourself

by looking at the code

[tulip kayak]

does this still auto dump lutbuilders

[dusty girder]

no

not yet

didnt setup any sdr path or swapchain stuff yet

its only replacing shaders and injecting cbuffers (native hdr type mod)

thats a WIP

but yea I dont think wuwa is a good test for this, since I think the grading shaders expect an srgb encoded sdr color

so even if you do all this, you're going to have to tonemap it back down to sdr to run through the grading shader, and upgrade tonemap

might aswell stick to wuwano's method

[tulip kayak]

like the game is gonna get its own hdr implementation

there's really no reason for me to do this

other than

[dusty girder]

I mean feel free to try

[tulip kayak]

if I don't feel like dealing with their extra color grading code i could just disable it

kek w

[dusty girder]

for the first lutbuilder, you should manually find the cbuffers

[tulip kayak]

uh,

[dusty girder]

compare code between your lutbuilder and a named one

just to understand what you're looking for, waht it does

[tulip kayak]

what's the ini config line again

[dusty girder]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/494

[tulip kayak]

kk

cloning repo

ya

same lutbuilder

only output shader changed

[dusty girder]

nice

is the composite shader there

[tulip kayak]

ok by the composite shader you mean the shader drawing the ui

[dusty girder]

yes

last shader

[tulip kayak]

its not the last shader

its the three shader here

we have all the ui shader for this game cuz hide UI shenanigans

[dusty girder]

no so

when you use ini tweaks

there should be a new ui shader

that is only used in the hdr path

and its basically all ui shaders combined

and its going to be the last ui shader in the list

[tulip kayak]

so it should hide all the ui shaders if you draw/undraw it?

[dusty girder]

yes

[tulip kayak]

then this game is using custom ui

makes sense because they have their own cvars for their UI

[dusty girder]

a composite looks like this:

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/main/src/games/ue-extended/composite/composite_hdr10_0x01C24618.ps_6_0.hlsl

dont thik the mod will work well w/o one

[tulip kayak]

you'll need to patch all the ui shaders?

if no comp ui?

[dusty girder]

well

the whole point of the composite shader

is its kind of like a swapchain proxy

you want to blend ui with scene

if its just a ui shader

with no blending

its going to look ugly a.f

[tulip kayak]

can I do like

color conversion on all the ui shaders

[dusty girder]

thats not theissue

the issue is no composite shader

handling and scaling shaders individually

with no game sample

is ass

and ugly

but you can try just replacing the lutbuilder for now

see how it looks

forget about the UI for now

its just UI

[tulip kayak]

let's say hypothetically i want to try it for now

just to deal with the oversaturation from the UI

[dusty girder]

no idea what the issue is, maybe the ui needs to run in srgb

so you pq decode, encode srgb, run code, pq enode

is it ue4?

or5?

[tulip kayak]

ue4

[dusty girder]

ue4 with sm6 is too custom

for this

you're also probably going to need to inject ue4ss

thats why its oversaturated

ue4 doesnt respect ini the same as modern ue5

[tulip kayak]

I probably just need the UI decoded differently

[dusty girder]

so you need ue4ss + my script to sent the cvars properly

idk if the anticheat will let that in though

[tulip kayak]

ue4ss might not work with anti cheat though

[dusty girder]

yea thats a riperoni then

what you can do is just use the unreal extended code for the sdr path

ima eventually add an sdr path

just add it to the wuwa mod

will look better than tonemappass

you're going to have to swap out pq encode/intermediate encoding in lutbuildercommon.hlsli with srgb encoding an scaling the color

(renderintermetiatepass)

and then a proxy shader with your own code or swapchain ass

[tulip kayak]

nah

I'll make this ui work

if not im just not doing anything

and wait for the official hdr

[charred solstice]

HDR path means UE needs to be in HDR as well? aka windows autoHDR is on, oppose to SDR path where windowsHDR is off?

[tulip kayak]

windows desktop hdr needs to be on

actually

probably not even

you just need the cvar

why u talking about auto hdr here

lol

[charred solstice]

it depends if UE needs bUseHDRDisplayOutput=true, in which case windowsHDR need to be on, or UE just rejects it as SDR

[dusty girder]

bUseHDRDisplayOutput doesnt do shit

all games ignor eit

autohdr should always be off

[charred solstice]

does not in my games

i always need that toggle for UE to start giving HDR output

[dusty girder]

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

this forces UE to run its hdr path if it doesnt have native hdr

[dusty girder]

do you know whats happening?

since bUseHDRDisplayOutput does nothing, the game launches as an sdr game

autohdr sees an sdr game

when autohdr sees an sdr game, it hijacks it; and applies autohdr

so congradulations you're playing your game with w11 autohdr

[charred solstice]

i mean if your game supports HDR in game, the usersettin is basically just bUseHDRDisplayOutput=true

[dusty girder]

pls, just go use regular ue-generic for now

ue-extended is a work in progress, and will eventally support the sdr path aswell so its going to be easy to use

for now its just a work in progress

the only people messing with it are helping test

its not officially released or supported yet

[charred solstice]

eeehh...then sorry for disrupting, just asking... as it's just ue thing

[dusty girder]

nah d.w, just sharing

bUseHDRDisplayOutput does nothing

atleast through the ini

if you want to force the native ini path you have to : https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/494

also there are other things outside of just forcing the hdr path, like creating the composite shader

[charred solstice]

that i know, I usually need both sides of the ini to finally get ue hdr to display, if reno doesn't need that, then great, as i don't need to muck around with windowsHDR which is why UE is such a pain to HDR at times

[tulip kayak]

ok got UI to unfuck itself

now to deal with the rest

[tulip kayak]

@dusty girder im gleaming so far

so just find the cbuffer and set it with UEconfig

and replace that one line to multiply it with 0.0f

and that's it for lutbuilder?

[tulip kayak]

just did bt2020::from::BT709 for it to unfuck itself

[tulip kayak]

SDR / UE extended

works™

gyatt damn frame slop works well with this slop

[celest ferry]

So the new Unreal addon automatically fixes framegen?

[coarse axle]

transformer FG works without flickering using this version

[celest ferry]

i still get flickering on loading screens, been using transformer and htis version

but it's greatly redued

fine patterns on armor still seem to flicker more in FFXVI

[tulip kayak]

what the fuck

[coarse axle]

FFXVI isnt UE

[tulip kayak]

Ffxvi isnt even ue

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[charred solstice]

ff7rebirth uses UE

so umm..

[celest ferry]

I get flickering from Reno in FFXVI

yes it's not UE

[tulip kayak]

Not ffxvi

[celest ferry]

i'll double check UE games

[coarse axle]

thats a separate issue, the addon isnt stable. Has crashing and such

[charred solstice]

ya it uses that old whatever engine, they kept hacking at

[tulip kayak]

So its irrelevant cause no one mentioned it

Lol

Were talking abt 16 here

[charred solstice]

I thought he just typo-ed cause UE lab

can't blame me for having too many FFs

[celest ferry]

It's other games too but I'll try to remember if they are UE or not

[tulip kayak]

Any game that upgrades the sdr path instead of using/fixing hdr will have transformer flicker

[peak galleon]

there's a lot of banding still in HDR, worse in SDR though

[blazing scaffold]

Yeah, banding in the fog mostly, bad in noth standards! Have you guys got crashes in Reanimal?

[unique ice]

how? i just get black screen. even with R10G10B10A2_UNORM set up

[dusty girder]

@tulip kayak not multiply, replace the cbuffer with 0

[sullen spoke]

make sure you're using the latest addon from here and follow instructions in following post https://discordapp.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1411800884303626311/1472023414586867804

those are my settings from reshade.ini

[unique ice]

i need the engine.ini changes too, right? where can i find/create that? i tried adding it to GameUserSettings.ini (and setting to readonly) in \AppData\Local\HighOnLife2\Saved\Config\Windows but im still running in sdr

[stoic narwhal]

I just did it and have it working, I added the engine.ini changes to gameusersettings and also made an engine.ini with those lines in the same folder. Working great for me

[unique ice]

got it working thanks

[plain wolf]

Hello, I'm getting a black screen on the new game Reanimal but the mods page on GitHub says it's supported, any idea?

[untold wadi]

Works fine with me

Added Reanimal support

[woeful gorge]

Haven't tried this new one and maybe I have some settings wrong but reanimal looks more muted in hdr.

[meager cliff]

huh, reanimal worked pretty good for me with the version from github

[willow harness]

Tried these but the still no luck

[rocky mortar]

I tried it and it works with Lies of P

UE Extended>RenoDX>Native HDR

[glacial idol]

Is this step necessary to make tonemapping slider work? (UE generic)

None of the silder works except color space and UI brightness. Is it normal? I did reload from the game main menu.

[rocky mortar]

Is the new addon supposed to have different results than RenoDX?
Sorry for my ignorance

[glacial idol]

Are tonemapping sliders only work if the game is listed on here? https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods#unreal-engine-

I tried Solar Ash and the sliders work.

I am confused because someone posted a High on Life 2 clip (UE extended) and the sliders work in realtime.

But when I try it. Only the UI brightness works (correctly applied to only UI)

[untold wadi]

Yes

[untold wadi]

Realtime sliders require adjusting engine.ini

[glacial idol]

This?

yea I did that.

[untold wadi]

This specifically

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

Other lines will mess up generic UE

[glacial idol]

This is only needed for UE extended, right? I've done this and set the Engine.ini to read only, but the sliders are still not working.

[untold wadi]

SystemSettings are only for UE extended

[glacial idol]

I treid 6.6.2 and 6.7.1, with adddon of cos

[untold wadi]

UpdateEveryFrame works with both

[brazen comet]

also hving this issue. Have you fixed it?

[glacial idol]

hmm... I added UpdateEveryFrame on generic UE addon and still, only color space and UI brightness sliders work..

[brazen comet]

its the renodx addon. Black screen goes away when removing the addon file

[brazen comet]

fixed the issue now. Reshade version stated on github is a must. Black screen happens with the latest version of reshade.

[atomic oak]

There indeed is a lot of banding sadly in Reanimal, Nvidia also does not detect the game just yet. So you need to add the exe to nvidia app manually if you want to override dlss3.7 with 4.5 in order to get a little less banding in fog.

[civic hamlet]

Is this build ok for High on Life 2? I'm asking as everything is working while outside in the city, but I just entered inside a building (I'm playing the game and it's a new checkpoint) and nearly everything stopped working (only UI brightness slider is working correctly), and I have no idea why.

[peak galleon]

i never bother, i just use the dlss that comes with the game

[atomic oak]

Huge oversight. DLSS4/4.5 Model M transformer is MUCH superior to DLSS3 CNN model, there is no reason not to use the NVIDIA App override, the difference is stellar tbh and also does improve HDR, color banding and Tonemapping.

[peak galleon]

buddy all i care about is:

1. playing the game
2. having ultrawide work
3. having HDR work if possible (but i'll play SDR too idc)

everything else is secondary

i cannot be fucked spending hours tweaking shit

and yes i know it's a one click thing but iirc, they also neutered the button that let you auto set latest dlss iirc

if you have to pick a specific preset on a per game basis to get the best, it's a user experience fail

[shell igloo]

NVPI global override to M

[peak galleon]

doesn't work if you want to swap between quality and dlaa or something though does it

[atomic oak]

Its literally that, a one time change in the nvidia app UI for all games the nvidia driver covers, reanimal is too new of a release and not covered by the drivers just yet.

[shell igloo]

why wouldn't it work

[peak galleon]

well it would work but not the optimal preset if you are swapping dlss modes on different games

[shell igloo]

nvapp override relies on the app actually recognizing the game so it's less effective

[shell igloo]

K is never optimal for image quality, the "recommended" option is due to perf concerns

[atomic oak]

The recommended Option used K for balanced and above

[peak galleon]

i dont know shit about the presets and i dont want to know, that is my point. i want devs to pick for me or nvidia to do it for me.

i dont want to have to press or change anything

[shell igloo]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[peak galleon]

tweaking is not really very fun

[atomic oak]

Thats also fine. Then the recommend mode is the one for you, meant for minimal configuration, its applied globally without any more complexity. It has got super easy since a few weeks ago when Nvidia added the functionality to Nvidia App👍 👍

Super easy fire and forget, you can literally forget about the setting tomorrow👌

[peak galleon]

i guess the only downside to this is forgetting you set it and then a game crashes with it or something

[atomic oak]

No dont worry, you can literally just forget the setting. Its on recommended mode, nvidia choses whats best for the game and DLSS quality/dlaa/performance. It will all be handled by the driver, also only with games which support dlss natively, there is 0 risk, I never had any issues with a dlss version mismatch or something, they are all backwards compatible. I fidle around quite a lot with dlss versions for a long time trying to minimize the ghosting of earlier models 😁

The recommended label was just added in the last driver release, so you would need to update your driver to latest if that option is not available for you just yet.

[limpid palm]

Does this mod adjust the image for SDR or doesn't it make sense?

[peak galleon]

were there new shaders? renodx-unrealengine from github seems to work fine here

the UI slider does change the game brightness though

[untold wadi]

One new shader

[peak galleon]

nice, will it be PR'd?

[untold wadi]

Already merged

[peak galleon]

how do you get nightly ones then

oh it says today now on snapshot

[lost lichen]

Very unlikely.

[lost lichen]

Nvidia doesn't choose anything for certain games. Recommended currently will give you L on UP, M on P and K on the rest. No matter the game. It's called recommended because it follow NV's own documentation. Before it would just force one newest preset for all modes.

[lost lichen]

Then you better not override at all.

[ebon dome]

as others have said, the main menu is roasted but in-game, it looks great. Thanks!

[peak galleon]

i tried it in reanimal and it does help a lot with the banding
DLAA in game + recommended

[tulip kayak]

Ya

[dusty girder]

@untold wadi the draw lut every frame thing doesnt work in lies of p; tested it a few days ago

probably because its literally the only ue4 game with per-scene luts

[dusty girder]

@civic hamlet yes

well then I need new lutbuilders

I only got 2 that lazzor sent me

uninstall ue-extended, download ue-generic, enable dump lutbuilders, go into the area it stops working (with initweaks enabled), and send me all the lutbuilders

I really have to graft all the ue-generic stuff over, those instructions are dumb a.f

[eager lynx]

Finally gave a try to Ghostrunner with RT so dx12 and it didn't crash so I guess I should edit the wiki to reflect it

[celest ferry]

I cannot get High on Life 2 working with the snapshot uploaded to the repo today. My Lilum's analyzer shows that I'm stuck at 203 nits, but it occasionlly pops to 700. The peak slider only works if I drop it below 200. What is the solve here? Thank you!

[brave gull]

damn native better than reno here lol

[brave gull]

You gotta turn HDR off everytime for returnal apparently (i wouldn't know the game won't launch) which sounds annoying so I outta try this extended ue

I'm guessing you gotta re-edit all the shaders though so it won't work for everything yet

[dusty girder]

@rocky mortar if you're playing with UE Extended, you have to make sure native hdr is on in game

no ini tweaks

here is the latest build

let me test

[dusty girder]

didnt add all the lutbuilders yet

so returnal probably wont work yet

SDR vs UE Extended HDR (ingame HDR on)

I think I have returnal, wont be too muc work I think

[flat hazel]

hey guys, is this unreal engine mod the best way to get hdr in the new dragonquest please? im on maternity leave trying to deal with rain and kids and have like 5 minutes.

[dusty girder]

I deleted it

[dusty girder]

dragonquest is custom

needs a custom mod

yea I gotta download it, ima go eat; no promises today but

I'll look into it

[flat hazel]

no thats nice, i know a little bit. ill search around

[dusty girder]

nobody made one yet so

[flat hazel]

no you guys are the go to for sure. just wanted to check here first. thanks Marat.

[dusty girder]

np gl

[charred solstice]

does oblivion count? it's kinda like one of those where the pipeline was setup but no toggle was ever finalized?

[dusty girder]

oblivion's shaders arnt added yet

oh shit it has named lutbuilders

wouldnt be a lot of work to add

[rocky mortar]

It works but changing the sliders doesn't except for UI Brightness

[dusty girder]

lies of p doesnt have real time sliders

open the equips menu and close

and it will update

[rocky mortar]

Native vs UE Extended

[rocky mortar]

ah ok

[charred solstice]

will UE extend, have the same dump lut possiblity, or will modders need to go into hunting themselves?

[rocky mortar]

I've Dead Island 2 installed, I'll check it out

UE Extended vs SDR

[dusty girder]

did you get rid of ini tweaks?

you can reduce blowout a bit, I might've set it too strong

in the latest version

[rocky mortar]

yeah i don't have any, I'm playing with U+ if that make a difference

[brave gull]

damn wtf returnal got hella wide gamut coverage even with native hdr

[rocky mortar]

doesn't seem to work, maybe a custom version

[dusty girder]

dead island is custom

just added returnal support

lets test

idk if ti will work

the composite shader is custom

returnal native hdr on seems to work just fine

[brave gull]

wdym native hdr works fine? like there's no different between native and ue?

[dusty girder]

ingame native hdr on can stay on

[brave gull]

oh i thought extended doesn't even work with hdr off

[dusty girder]

it doesnt yet

it works with either ingame native hdr on, or ini tweaks

[dusty girder]

but with this build you can launch returnal, let it stay in native hdr, and thats it

[brave gull]

oh okay no engine.ini tweaks

got it

nice

will try it

[dusty girder]

set blowout to 50-75 in game

I accidently defaulted it to 100

[brave gull]

yeah i mean looks good hard to tell a difference though native hdr looks pretty good

i'd keep testing but there's a tornado warning i bettter turn off my pc lol

[rocky mortar]

tested Banishers with cvars and didn't work

and tested The Casting of Frank Stone, the game has native HDR but the addon doesn't seem to work

[dusty girder]

that game wont work with this, custom everything

@rocky mortar @brave gull sorry bois I fucked up, use this build

if your blowout slider doesnt get set to 75, set it yourself (or lower if you want)

[brave gull]

ohh i was wondering why ur light tenctacle thingys were white

[dusty girder]

yea I defaulted by accident

to 100 blowout

[steel lion]

So whats the best way to use HDR in High on Life 2?

[dusty girder]

this this ini tweaks works very well, but apparently there is an area with a new lutbuilder

so somebody needs to get me that

maybe @mild hazel can

apparently when you leave the city and enter the house

[mild hazel]

I am guessing maybe the family quest

could try it next

[dusty girder]

btw the old blowout slider is now called "dechroma", so use that to test

[mild hazel]

should I use the version you just posted

[dusty girder]

yea

[mild hazel]

idk when I will get to house

haven't been in a house since beginning of game

ah I found one

[dusty girder]

dm me it, and I'll get it fixed

[mild hazel]

aight, relaunching now

[dusty girder]

I also got some more hue/chroma fixs

but I'll send ya'll that when you get me the new lutbuilders

[dusty girder]

I've added some more High on Life 2 lutbuilders, thanks to lazorr for finding them

[civic hamlet]

Please let me know if they are ok, it's the first time I do this

[dusty girder]

doe sthis not work?

[civic hamlet]

I'll try it right now and report back

[dusty girder]

wait they're new lutbuilders

let me add them real fast

[celest ferry]

what do the LUTbuilders do?

Anyone have the symptom where only the Peak Shader works and only below 200 or something?

[dusty girder]

compiling

@civic hamlet remember to reset the default value for blowout and hue shift; I changed those up

let me know if it works

[civic hamlet]

Unfortunately it's not working. Only UI brighteness works. I completely deleted reshade.ini and used the default one just to be sure nothing was left of previous installation. The game is the gamepass/windows store version. Everything was fine in the previous game area.

[dusty girder]

strange

do me a favor

set dechroma to 100

and retart the game

[civic hamlet]

ok, I'll do it right now

[dusty girder]

or exit to main menu

and load in game

[civic hamlet]

not working. I'll retake lut files, may I did something wrong.

[dusty girder]

did the game become black and white?

[civic hamlet]

no

[dusty girder]

gamepass version might not accept

ini tweaks

idk anything about gamepas

but you said an older area worked

[civic hamlet]

yes, it worked fine

[dusty girder]

no idea

get the ue-generic mod, dump lutbuilders on (with ini tweaks), and load into the area that doesnt work

[civic hamlet]

let me check the lut thing, maybe I did it wrong

[dusty girder]

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

I have lazorr playing, apparently things are just fine

what area are you in?

like the name

[civic hamlet]

that's the ini I'm using

[dusty girder]

ok good

[civic hamlet]

it's the area after a "parking lot", that was in the open

[dusty girder]

@mild hazel did the mod work for you there?

[mild hazel]

I dont know but I suspect there are probably some areas that need lutbuilders

[dusty girder]

(1.0f - exp2(dot(

[civic hamlet]

I also used generic ue mod before, and it worked like that (now I know, it was strange at first but didn't know what was going on): in the very first area after the intro it wasn't working, I went through the door and the mod started working, then I reached the city and it didn't work again. So I come here and saw the new ue-extended mod.

[mild hazel]

it works in the city for sure

[celest ferry]

GamePass version works with non-UE Reno mods for me

[civic hamlet]

I usually had no problem using RenoDX with Gamepass games

[mild hazel]

it should be working in most of the game

[civic hamlet]

I'll take lut files again, give me a minute

[mild hazel]

but they have a shit ton of luts

I spent a long time mostly focused on frame times trying to smooth out some stuff so might not have noticed when it wasnt working

[dusty girder]

take your time

if you can when dump lutbuilders is on

exit the area, and go back in

[mild hazel]

think I sent that one earlier

maybe

[civic hamlet]

unfortunately I can't, it's not an open world game, it's just checkpoints

[dusty girder]

already in the mod

best thing I can offer is a fresh compile

make sure only addon in your folder is

dxgi (reshade) + addon

[civic hamlet]

ok

[dusty girder]

maybe dump lutbuilders isnt grabbing it for some reason

somebody would need to get the devkit out

[civic hamlet]

is there a specific reshade version I should use?

[dusty girder]

latest one with addon support

[civic hamlet]

ok, that's what I'm using

[dusty girder]

https://reshade.me/downloads/ReShade_Setup_Addon.exe

yea no idea, if its a short area

I guess its not the end of the world

until somebody finds the lutbuilder

[civic hamlet]

sure, not a big deal, I'm not complaining at all, I'm in fact very grateful for your mod and work, I use it all the time

[dusty girder]

nah I'm sadge

all the shaders are there

send reshade.log I guess

[wind hill]

from here

[dusty girder]

no issues idk

dont use that one, get the newer one

[dusty girder]

this one

also you need ini tweaks, engine.ini:

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

idk where it is for your game

[nova thistle]

any hope for romeo's max nit menus with extend?

[celest ferry]

I'm using Musa's latest vrsion of FFXVI mod with Transformer model M enabled and I still get flicker so maybe it's only fixed in Unreal? Got it if so

[celest ferry]

Isn't there an optin to bypass this or something in some of the reno mods

[civic hamlet]

I'm using latest file and correct engine.ini. Directory structure really is the same for Windows Store UE games except for "Windows" directory (both game and appdata folders), which is named "WinGDK". I tried to start a new game and the mod works fine (I just tried to start a new game, firt playable are), but as soon as I load the old checkpoint area the mod stops working correctly. EDIT: just kept playing until next checkpoint, mod works again

[dusty girder]

yea no idea, that one area's lutbuilder is missing

and for some reason ue-generic doesnt dump it

[dusty girder]

wait for the sdr path to get added, but then you'll loose framegen

or somebody that owns the game to try and fix it

[tulip kayak]

what bypass u talking about

lol

[celest ferry]

As I recall one of the Reno addons have a line at the bottom of the Reno pane that says something like “if game is using SDR path then click this to try and fix it” or something

[dire ice]

I tried Octopath Traveler and it seems to work fine, but it's not listed on the page. Like OP 2, it requires B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS Output Size, otherwise the UI brightness slider doesn't control the UI but the actual graphics.

[peak galleon]

add it then, it's open for anyone to edit

[dire ice]

Ah. Didn't even notice that these are editable. Added.

It also ruined the satanic nature of the page, because it had 666 revisions, now it has 667 💀

[placid siren]

#1413548071987576862

[celest ferry]

Gotta remember to do this thanks

[placid siren]

Once I move everything to Reshade 6.6 based, I can just include it

[fluid valley]

Hey I tried this for High on Life 2 with the engine ini and when it loads up I get the splash screen and then just a black screen with music on the main menu. I can't access reshade.

[dusty girder]

no idea sorry

[fluid valley]

do I use just renodx-ue-extended.addon64 or do I need something else?

[sullen spoke]

you should just be able to use ue extended with the engine.ini settings
you could try copying the reno settings from my post to see if this fixes it https://discordapp.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1411800884303626311/1472165937607217288

[glacial idol]

ue-extended.addon64 is alternative to renodx-unrealengine addon, use one only. You get black screen with unrealengine addon without "upgrade fix"

[rigid dawn]

hello dont mind me looking at your old message but what are you recommending here? I want to do it as well

Reanimal has no HDR so does RenoDX enable the UE5's own HDR (=from the engine, which is disabled by the game)?

[peak galleon]

no it's renodx hdr

[rigid dawn]

okay

also does anyone know how to turn the framegen on in reanimal? I see the dll files in the game folder but no option in the game

when I click reshade app it says its specifically built for singleplayer games only and I also get a Win32/Pomal!rfn which I hope is a false positive

I wonder if I will get banned for this? Im gonna play it with a friend via friends pass

[west canopy]

Plasmaguy saying he's getting black screen in High On Life 2 and "he tried all compatibility settings"?

And he's ITMing above 1000 because he doesn't want to look up for the UE commands that would give him accurate HDR what has happened to our prophet

[placid siren]

i don't think anybody has dumped shaders for High on Life 2 (as noted in the pinned comment)

[sullen spoke]

lazorr has been providing shaders for this up the chat a little bit

[placid siren]

didn't find any

[sullen spoke]

hmm
maybe i'm mistaken
2 mins

[mild hazel]

I have the shaders from ini HDR being turned on

there are quite a few different lutbuilders

[delicate ferry]

I was playing REANIMAL and as soon as the demo portion was over renodx stopped working. Extracted these LUT Shaders

[limpid palm]

I attempted to launch Reanimal using the most recent version of the unreal addon, but the screen remained black. I could hear the menu sound, and Reshade indicated that it was installed, yet it didn’t react to the Home key.
How to fix it ?

Where to find ue-extended.addon64 ?

[limpid palm]

Without the addon file, ReShade was installed, and the Home button worked. But when I put the addon back into the folder on the next launch, all I got was a black screen, and nothing displayed at all. Only music and sounds were audible. Could the issue be with the addon file?

Maybe its all black and no tab from Reshade because i have sdr tv ?

[steel lion]

So what looks the best? The extened addon or the regular addon?

[limpid palm]

I came across this solution yesterday, but the issue is that when the addon file is in the game folder, apart from a black screen, the ReShade menu doesn’t activate—it simply doesn’t show up, so I can’t enable anything or access any upgrades. This has never happened before. When I press Home, all I get is a dark screen with background music and no ReShade menu options. Without this file, ReShade works perfectly fine.

Maybe i need to download extended addon , but i didnt find him in mod list . Where is it ?

[tame raft]

@limpid palm here

[true raft]

Was anyone able to get this working on REANIMALS? I've made the engine.ini with all of the lines posted above, installed the newest reshade with addons but when I try to adjust any of the sliders nothing happens. Even if I out to menu and reload. Any help would be fantastic been trying to get this to work all morning. Thanks

[limpid palm]

Everything worked with this file, but do I need to create an engine.ini file separately ? And in which folder should I create it and write what I need?

[placid siren]

not all the reanimal shaders still haven't been patched

maybe @untold wadi has a faster flow than i do, since got other stuff going on

[tame raft]

I haven't started the game yet since it's missing shaders as ShortFuse pointed out

but in general if you're going to use the extended version, then check this guide by Marat:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/494

[tame raft]

but going back to your original question, you just need to change R10G10B10A2_UNORM to Output Size as pointed out in the wiki here:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods

[stable cliff]

Quick question: if my only intention is to use the RenoDX mod can I skip both the "effects" and "add-ons" installation on Reshade?

[indigo plank]

Yes, and you can disable the Generic Depth and Effect Runtime Sync addons which are installed and enabled by default in ReShade

[west canopy]

You can also delete shaders folder, I then manually move only liliums HDR analyzer in there

[true raft]

Hey im still having issues loading the new addon. Any idea why? I've updated to latest reshade and thought that was the problem but it still will not load the addon. Thanks

[delicate ferry]

also having an error with the new addon

20:24:59:450 [ 4308] | ERROR | Failed to register add-on, because the requested API version (19) is not supported (18)!
20:24:59:450 [ 4308] | ERROR | Failed to load add-on from 'E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\REANIMAL\Everholm\Binaries\Win64\renodx-unrealengine.addon64'

[indigo plank]

update your reshade installation

[delicate ferry]

I was already using reshade 6.7.1 but reinstalled it and still getting the same error with the new renodx addon

[true raft]

same

should be 6.7.2 though

[untold wadi]

oof mb

[delicate ferry]

didn't know 6.7.2 was already out. Updated but still the same

[untold wadi]

It's an issue with my build, will upload another one

[peak galleon]

can we get a patched build for reanimal please? ❤️

new shader #1411800884303626311 message

[untold wadi]

Test this

Ran the wrong command and lost my vulkan reshade changed files

[true raft]

I think its working, but im having the issue where only the ui slider does anything. Had this happen before and cant remember how I fixed it

[delicate ferry]

working perfectly. thank you so much @untold wadi 🙏 🙏 🙏

[true raft]

I really can't figure this out. It looks like when I load into the game it functions as it should for the first second then kicks over to the UI brightness affecting everything and being the only slider that does anything :(

[honest linden]

Just joined up to try to get RenoDX to work with High on Life 2. Think I finally got it working, just wanted to thank the people that make this mod. I use it in almost every game available.

[ashen sleet]

When i use universal unreal engine renodx mod it works fine with dlss (quality, etc), but game starts randomly crashing with “fatal crash” dialog if i try to use it with dlaa. And it looks like its same on 3 different games i tried. While without mod dlaa works fine. Is there any solution for this issue?

On reanimal that crash was very occasional and mostly on entering/exiting menus or changing settings, but it also randomly crashed several times during my playthrough in gameplay.

[charred solstice]

are you running out of vram? DLAA is pretty much the penultimate vram killer. Some games just lag to death when they start running out. UE tends to fall on the crash side of it.

[ashen sleet]

I don’t think so. I’m on RTX 4090. Also without mod DLAA works fine

[rigid dawn]

is there a black raiser for the black parts only? like most oled monitors' hdr, my peak 1000 nits has insane black crush

[upbeat kindle]

What is the latest DLSS FG fix for UE5? In Mafia The Old Country, I've light flickerig when activate FG.

[charred solstice]

color grading shadows is probably what you're looking for

pop it up and you should have less shadow crushing, assuming your monitor hasn't blown it up on their end

[tame raft]

I think this is what you're looking for #1413548071987576862

[tame raft]

did you use the universal one on the wiki?

[honest linden]

I used the one shared on this channel.

[tame raft]

the renodx-ue-extended one?

[honest linden]

Think it was this one: #1411800884303626311 message

So yes, that one lol

Someone on Reddit claimed the one on the wiki wasn’t as up to date as the one shared on this Discord. So that’s what I went with

[steel lion]

I might be tripping, but i think UE extended looks better than the generic one in High on life 2.

[upbeat kindle]

Thanks

[fresh wind]

10k nits, who released the holy hand grenade?

[desert heron]

https://bskyx.app/profile/denshattack.bsky.social/post/3mf7r7elnda2p
turns out this might be an unreal game

starts off as SDR, once you honk the horn the game immediately upgrades lol

time to start with upgrade copy destination

next I'll try R10G10B10A2_UNORM

and... PERFECT

perfect upgrade

this doesn't look good...

[raw lion]

Yup'! ^.^'

[desert heron]

it upgrades pretty easily lol

[shell igloo]

twice this month i've surprised at indie games being unreal rather than unity

denshattack and deadline delivery

[ebon dome]

Crisol works great with UE extended except the pause menu lol

in-game is fine and looks good

[ebon dome]

okay so it seems that the pause menu stuff is only when you're outside and it's raining

[dusty girder]

if somebody can get me fresh .cso files of the lutbuilder dumps for mafia new country, I can make a native hdr fix mod

@white stag you have the game iirc

[white stag]

aight gimme a moment

[tepid ridge]

Oh wow

[dusty girder]

here is ue-extended with mafia old country native hdr support

instructions:
-> drop addon in game folder
-> turn on native hdr in game
-> done

notes:
-> sliders dont apply in real time, and it seems the ini tweak to update lutbulders every frame doesnt work; so for sliders to apply you have to load a save or open/close a menu

-> if you had renodx installed before in the game folder, delete reshade.ini and re-install reshade

-> this will work with framegen and all that good stuff!

[tepid ridge]

Does updating lutbuilders every frame not hurt perf?

[dusty girder]

in my experiance no

I assume you're talking about

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

mathmatically there is probably some sort of perf hit, but its like peanuts

[tepid ridge]

Yeah. I’m usually skeptical of adding things that run every frame. But I guess just grabbing luts should be ok

[tame raft]

is extended better than the multi-game one?

[dusty girder]

its multigame too, but it doesnt have all the games ue-generic has (yet)

its just a side project I'm working on

it goes about doing things in a different way, also supports native hdr/ini hdr for framegen and all that

[tame raft]

about that, framegen and multi-framgen used to work fine with the generic mod for me, are you referring to something else?

[dusty girder]

ue-generic is incompatable with DLSS FG/MFG unless DLSS-Fix works

highlights flicker (well not just highlights, any color above sdr)

because all the generated frames are sdr

[tame raft]

I read about that a lot here but weird, I never had that issue

[dusty girder]

that means you're probably playing in sdr or broke something

[tame raft]

I'm pretty sure I was playing in HDR, here's Returnal for example

I'm also playing with VRR on, could that be "fixing" the flicker?

[dusty girder]

nothing to do with vrr

what mod are you using?

ue-generic or ue-extended

[tame raft]

for returnal? it's the generic

[dusty girder]

returnal automatically turns native hdr on every launch

so ue-generic is kinda broken there

[tepid ridge]

I think it only happens with DLSS 4 FG no? 3.7 or so is good. I had this issue in banishers and I solved it like that

[dusty girder]

oh yea

non transformer is good

but

MFG is only ytasnformer

[tepid ridge]

Yeah mfg for sure

I personally just use 3.8 or so when I’m in unreal. Don’t have mfg anyway

[dusty girder]

if extended works with native hdr on in your game, you can use transformer, its worth it

[tame raft]

I'm using pmnox's display commander addon to fix that actually, now it stays always off

I'll check with Mafia now, generic vs extended with framegen 4x

[dusty girder]

remember to delete reshade.ini and re-install reshade

unless you never used renodx with mafia before

then its fine

[tame raft]

isn't deleting reshade.ini enough? installing reshade just adds the dxgi.dll

[dusty girder]

yea its enough

you dont even need to delete all of reshade.ini, just all the renodx parts

but yea just drop the addon in, turn on native hdr, and enjoy

[charred solstice]

So one fix for FG flickers is if you run it through a post processing shader like autoHDR, etc,etc etc, basically HDRing those fake frame. Of course that's essentially destroying your image, for the sake of the flicker, to varying degree, but it's a case by case bases.

[dusty girder]

thats not a fix

thats just stretching the image to sdr, so you just have bright sdr; not hdr

[charred solstice]

it is not, it's a very bad case of a cheap temu bandaid

[dusty girder]

play the game however you want, its your game; but I'd prefer less fps/no fg

over "bright sdr"

[charred solstice]

I mean in the best world you sacrifice nothing, but aftering playing on some RT modes...everything else feels like mud, especially when you HDR. dlssfix is getting there though.

[dusty girder]

what game?

[tame raft]

just tried the generic mod and yes, it's flickering a lot, these two screenshots are taken a few seconds apart

here's the extended version working fine

[dusty girder]

enjoy

[tame raft]

thanks Marat!

[charred solstice]

that curve looks amazing

does it look as great on the monitor?

[tame raft]

oh absolutely, it almost looks like a real image on my OLED

[candid umbra]

Is there any working mod for Dragon Quest VII Reimagined (apologies if I missed it). I’ve tried the generic UE version and it doesn’t do much to the highlights. And the generic Luma crashes the game. I wish I knew enough to make one myself but hoping someone with the skills can figure it out.

[dusty girder]

dq7 needs a custom mod

[dusty girder]

@tame raft ue-extended supports returnal btw; but with its native hdr on

[desert heron]

might try and upgrade the timesplitters fan remake with this

[tame raft]

oh sweet, I'll try that as well. do you have a wiki/list of supported games? I totally wasn't aware of that and saw your message about mafia by complete accident

[tame raft]

extended behaves identically to the generic one, I still have to upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM and disable the in-game HDR or it will look like this. it's also still flickering

[tame raft]

I tried the specific file you shared before when discussing Returnal and that one works great! I was still using the Mafia one earlier but it seems it's not backward compatible

[tame raft]

this one works too, so it's specifically the mafia addon that's not backward compatible

[peak galleon]

bumpity bump, anyone know if this got pr'd yet or merged in a build?

[tame raft]

have you tried this? literally below your message

[peak galleon]

i believe that message was directed at someone else comment? but no i haven't tested it

[tame raft]

it's a series of messages that leads back to REANIMAL's luts you're referring to

but yeah, that addon from Ritsu should work, unless new luts are discovered later in the game

[peak galleon]

thanks

[west canopy]

what is this reno ue extended mod about?

[tame raft]

.

[wicked parrot]

should this work with any game?

[candid umbra]

Is there any WIP mod for it? Or any other UE game’s mod that works?

[bold hawk]

UE+ doesn't seem to work in Still wakes the deep. With ini tweaks none of the sliders work and game looks sdr. With HDR enabled ingame only UI brightness works. Upgrade path is known to break FG. Do you need a shader dump?

[dusty girder]

@tame raft you have to set "Upgrade Path" to off

I thought I sent you a addon that already has returnal to off by default, but I guess not

Upgrade Path Off = use game's native hdr or ini tweaks

[dusty girder]

with games that are supported so far

but adding support isnt too crazy

[tame raft]

that did the trick, thanks!

[tame raft]

is there a list or a wiki of supported games?

[dusty girder]

not yet

[tame raft]

afaik, these are the currently supported games:

Code Vein 2
Crisis Core
High On Life 2
Lies of P
Like a Dragon: Ishin!
Lost Soul Aside
Mafia: The Old Country
Returnal
Romeo is a Dead Man

• many more

unsupported games:
Stellar Blade

[dusty girder]

are you just going through the commit history

there are more, for example Code Vein shaders are used for like 50 games

Lost Soul Aside native hdr works too

I remember testing that

[tame raft]

no, I'm going through everything that's been shared in this forum

[dusty girder]

Crisis Core works

sdr path, with upgrades

honestly I have dump lutbuilders, you can just test the game, if the contrast slider doesnt work, enable dump lutbuilders

and I can add it for you

latest build, has some experimental stuff in it

[tame raft]

sounds good, okay!

[dusty girder]

I added some beta tonemappers shortfuse made, if you want you can play around with them

N2 5 peak, 100/100 is the default

[tame raft]

Psycho Beta4 100h 0b is interesting, I think it even looks slightly better than the default

[dusty girder]

yea its a beta, and not used "correctly" so expect mixed results; its just there for fun

[deep wedge]

Is there a full list of the supported games for ue extended addon? I saw a few games mentioned a couple of comments above. Is that all or are there more?

[dusty girder]

no list yet

[tame raft]

@deep wedge you can check the above but it's far from being a full list

[sour river]

where is the fix archive for UE when using DLSS framegen? Used latest repo from github and I get an insane flicker ingame for Stellar Blade

[tame raft]

remove the current addon you have and reinstall reshade

[tame raft]

then try this one

[sour river]

I have no addons on it, reinstalled and redownloaded everything and I get the flicker when framegen is on

[tame raft]

just to be sure, are you using this specific addon, @sour river?

[dusty girder]

stellar blade doesnt work iwth native hdr in ue-extended

I can add the native hdr lutbuilder, but it will be a bit different

stellar blade needs the sdr path sadly

that game is cursed

[quasi garden]

any guides on this one (from the guides tab)?

Modding SM5 Lutbuilders:

[Placeholder]

[dusty girder]

its not too different from sm6

for ue-generic

just look at any fixed sm5 shader in ue-generic

you set 4 colors and thats it

[quasi garden]

and just use the cmd_decompiler.exe instead

[dusty girder]

y

[tame raft]

nevermind, check here instead: #1413548071987576862
you'll need the addon from the wiki again

[dusty girder]

Since people are messing around with UE-Extended, here is the snapshot for the latest version:
https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

not all games are supported yet, and there are still things to workout

but if you want to test, feel free

the path setting determines if the mod uses the native hdr/ini path or upgrades the game from sdr to hdr
(off = use game's native hdr/ini, on = upgrade to SDR)
-> by default it upgrades sdr to hdr just like UE-Generic; where you need to select resources to upgrade
-> if a game had a native hdr setting, try using that first, and make sure Upgrade Path is off
--> if the game is known good, it should set the path to off itself

---

for dump lutbuilders to work you have to enable the sdr path (even if the game's native hdr is on), dump lutbuilders, and then turn off the sdr path setting

I still dont have all the games from ue-generic, but we're getting there!

---

WHY DO MY SLIDERS NOT WORK?

• Unreal engine 5 doesnt have realtime sliders by default, create an Engine.ini file if it doesnt exist, and add this in:

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

If sliders still don't work, the game is not supported (yet) and needs shaders added

---

If you're doing ini tweaks, put these in Engine.ini (create it if it doesnt exist) [And don't forget to set Path to off in the mod!]

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

• Note, sometimes a game deletes Engine.ini on every launch; so set it to read-only
• UE4 games dont respect ini tweaks; use the sdr path for them -- UE5 gud
  -> there is an advanced way with UE4SS; will document more later

---

Update!:
If you guys share lutbuilders for ue-extended, please include both the existing and new lutbuilders (if existing lutbuilders end up getting dumped)

the existing lutbuilders help me fix the new lutbuilders faster

existing lutbuilders dump as lutbuilder_0x12345678
-> this means the lutbuilder is already in the mod

new lutbuilders dump as lutbuilder_new_0x12345678
-> this means they're not in the mod, and I need to fix them up!

[thick belfry]

Gamma slider pls 🙏

Also, didn't you say that blowout at 100 is basically ITM?

[pastel sand]

Fow Avowed as well? Sorry but I'm a bit lost whit all this new UE-Extended thing I'm reading all over.

[dusty girder]

yea avowed works out of the box, with the ingame native hdr on

[dusty girder]

re-worked it 20 times

you can also try new psycho beta4
0-50 hueshift
0 blowout

[thick belfry]

Just tried it, still looks bad
100 hue shift + 65 blowout + 1 PerChPeak is as close to the SDR as I could get, both with mewtoo and psychomob
The other one is useless imo

also bring back the clipping slider

[pastel sand]

Same! Anybody help keep us normies in the loop please. Haha.

[split dagger]

i'm looking into project wingman, I've set the majority of resources to output size, what's the downside to doing this?

[dusty girder]

the clipping slider wont do anything here

also @thick belfry dont use stellar blade ini tweaks or native hdr, thats the one game thats conisdered busted; use the sdr path

[thick belfry]

I don't

[dusty girder]

yea I'm not a fan of NRG, thats probably getting cut

but you probably dont want to use blowout with psycho

at most use a bit of hue shift

max channel should be 100/100

if you're testing stellar blade, honestly that might've just been straight up broken by something

test another game

[dusk orchid]

@dusty girder 👋 🙂

[thick belfry]

I can't think of another ue game that has demo avaliable

[dusty girder]

I've been testing the

eternal strands demo

with ini tweaks (so set processing to off in the mod)

I guess the sdr path should work fine too

let me try the sdr path, I've only tried the ini path

[thick belfry]

Noice, will try it out

SB could probably use the bespoke mod then

Changing exposure complealy fucks up the colors in a way I haven seen before

[dusty girder]

this is all based on that codebase

only thing that would change is probably default colorgarding sliders

bro I'm a fucking dummy

I forgot I use this in every game now

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

so I was like

"why do my sliders not work"

I deleted it

sdr reference -- N2 Max Ch 100/100 -- Psycho4 0/0

sdr reference -- N2 Max Ch 100/100 -- Psycho4 0/0

[dusty girder]

btw remember guys, you can always add a bit of hue shift/blowout to Psycho; its just the stock defaults are 0/0 for it; and 100 is too much

[thick belfry]

how is psycho better than mew2 btw?

[dusty girder]

psycho uses n2 (atleast in the UE mod)

its just doing it differently

N2 displaymaps by max channel to user peak; which doesnt blow out aswell

thats why I have hue shift and blowout that take the input of a 500 nit per-ch color

and use that to "fix" the "max-ch memes"

psycho is by luminosity (LMS stuff)

the LMS stuff blows out really nice, looks natural

doesnt even need any blowout from a reference color, "it just works"

adding a bit sometimes helps, but as a whole its cool stuff

NRG will probably be killed off

and it will be
N2 Max Channel
N2 Luminosity (current psycho4)

[thick belfry]

[dusty girder]

you know how you can tonemap per channel

by luminance

there is also tonemap by max channel

and luminosity

you can use mewtwo for all 4 of those

(there are also more)

[thick belfry]

I understand the first two, not really the latter two

[dusty girder]

luminosity/lms is based on the cones in our eyeballs

I dont get it 100% either

max channel tonemaps based on the max rgb channel

so its like

float3 linear_color; // untonemapped color
float max_ch_scale = max(max(max(color.r, color.g), color.b), peak_nits)
float3 max_ch_tonemapped = (linear_color * max_ch_scale)

thats very basic max channel scaling

so if you have a tonemapper like n2

all its doing is making a big number go small

what that number is doesnt matter

it can be Y (luminance), individual RGB channels (per-ch), eyeball cones (LMS/Luminosity)

classic reinhard color / (color + 1) is used outside of graphics programming; shortfuse found it in a music AI

since all its doing is making a float go to 1 or less

[thick belfry]

Sobotka approved

[dusty girder]

from the wire?

the ship union guy

[thick belfry]

From agx

[dusty girder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sobotka

[dusty girder]

idk anything about agx, but it looks really nice here

and here is with a bit of blowout if you dont like the saturation

[thick belfry]

So max channel is basically per channel but only for the high values?

[dusty girder]

no

per channel individually scales each channel

so

tonemap(color.r. peak)
tonemap(color.g, peak)
tonemap(color.b, peak)

thats per-channel

shortfuse calls max channel tonemap by hue, in a way it is hue preserving and has almost no blowout (thats why huehsift and blowout are default 100)

it creates a scale based on r g b channels, and then only multiplies color by scale

similar to how luminance tonemapping is

float3 untonemapped;
float old_y = GetLuminance(untonemapped);
float new_y = mewtwo(y_luminance, peak);
float scale = new_y / old_y;
float3 luminance_tonemapped = untonemapped * scale;

[dusty girder]

I've added Wu Chang to ue-extended; so whenever github finishes compiling (probably an hour from when I post this message)

Both ini hdr and the sdr path with upgrades will work

for ini hdr set the path to off in the mod (and restart the game), and ofc add the generic INI paramaters

[tame raft]

you previously said to add that for ini hdr (e.g., High On Life 2) should it still be added with the latest addon?

also btw, that game is like Returnal, the upgrade path should be set to off by default

[dusty girder]

if you use ini hdr or native hdr, path has to be off

and updateeveryframe is just for sliders to update in real time

the full ini tweak list is

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

[tame raft]

okay thanks

[dusty girder]

I added the REANIMAL lutbuilders to UE-EXTENDED, and ritsu added them to UE-Generic; so I'll unpin the post

(If you're interested in trying the mod in said game, wait for the plugin to compile; takes about an hour from when I made this post)

[quasi garden]

Alone in the Dark (2024) (sm5) and Nightingale (sm6)

[dusty girder]

I played alone in the dark

the new one

it was a pretty solid game

very mid but I liked it

did both routes

[quasi garden]

yeah, ive only done maybe an hour or two, i rarely finish games these days :/

[dusty girder]

its not a long game

its actually very short

you might finish this one

I have 19h for 2 playthroughs, also I have 2 working braincells

so puzzles took me 5x longer than the average person

[pastel sand]

So you are kind of like in the process of moving all the old UE add-ons into a more universal one if I understand correctly?

[dusty girder]

yea, and all the ue-generic stuff too

all the standalone ue addons are on the same codebase, with the only difference being 2 shaders

so I've taken that codebase, upgraded it, and made it modular

so its easy to add games to it

[pastel sand]

Awesome. Quite a feat for "2 working braincells" haha.

[dusty girder]

https://i.imgur.com/bLR53ZU.png

[pastel sand]

Tales of Arise maybe? Haha...

[dusty girder]

doesnt hat already work really well with

luma

[pastel sand]

It's already working with RenoDX, iirc Ritsu had to do some stuff to fix it some month back though. Just in case you were lost on where to continue haha.

[dusty girder]

yea they had to make some math safe in the output shaders, it wouldnt be hard to add

[digital raptor]

Tales of arise has unsafe pows in output shaders

Had to fix them up

[dusty girder]

yea I just saw them

[digital raptor]

So luma probably won't work ootb

[dusty girder]

I think they fixed it

I seen people talk about it

in the luma thread

wouldnt be hard to add arise though if the only non-lutbuilder issue is

the unsafe pows

[digital raptor]

Yea, I wanted to add the game specific fixes to luma

[dusty girder]

nobody flagged the lutbuilder

in ue-generic

[pastel sand]

Oh it was you^^' I remember now. 😅

[dusty girder]

I dont want to re-download the game

its like 670 gigabytes

[pastel sand]

Its on LUMA?! Why I've been missing all this stuff for months?

[dusty girder]

I'll add these later, and probably support alone in the dark native hdr too in ue-extended; its just 5am here in nyc

[dusty girder]

did they add it?

[digital raptor]

All good lol

[digital raptor]

No

[dusty girder]

do you know

[digital raptor]

Luma UE has crashing issues

[dusty girder]

what lutbuilder[s] arise uses?

if you do

I can quickly add it to extended

[digital raptor]

Ehh maybe I can find a reshade log

[dusty girder]

if not I gotta download it

ya log would be fine

I can search based on shaders its replacing

[digital raptor]

@dusty girder

[dusty girder]

I searched all of hdr den for tales of arise

[digital raptor]

But there's no "replacing" line in here?

[dusty girder]

no commit with arise lutbuilder except

[digital raptor]

arise lutbuilder was already included

[dusty girder]

"add arise output"

yea

thats what I was gonna say

[dusty girder]

lets c

[dusty girder]

looks like the game started and crashed

or start and closed

20:44:35:956 [ 9180] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::swapchain::OnCreateResource(Upgrading, flags: 0x0, state: 0x80000000, format: r10g10b10a2_unorm => r16g16b16a16_float, width: 32, height: 32, usage: undefined(cc4), complete: 0)

[digital raptor]

oh xD

[dusty girder]

there was a 32x32x32 texture upgraded

but no replacing

weird stuff

if anybody has it installed

I can tell you what to do

@pastel sand do you have it installed?

[digital raptor]

0x876F0F03 is the lutbuilder in the main menu

[dusty girder]

how'd you find that

[pastel sand]

Yes.

[dusty girder]

@pastel sand enable dump lutbuilders, restart game, turn game on, run around

and then send me all the lutbuilders in the renodx folder

[digital raptor]

still have the game installed 😅 on a slow ass hdd though

that same lutbuilder is also used in game

[dusty girder]

wait this might be griefed

I think this is an old ass version

of ue

with no blue correct

I dont support that yet

[digital raptor]

ah :/

[pastel sand]

Having coffe at desk. Can do it right away. Do I need something else like the devkit add-on or something? Should I test as many areas as possible?

[dusty girder]

no rush

[dusty girder]

wait maybe we're good

we're good

[dusty girder]

if you have the game installed, grab the lutbuilders

it has to be ue-extended because

if there is a lutbuilder that I already have in the mod

I dont have to dig for cbuffers

[pastel sand]

Wait I have old .cso files form the last time I did this things. I should delete those probably right? Just did this like once.

[dusty girder]

wait all the work is done

somehow magically

all the cbuffers are the same as returnal

so I just need the lutbuilders

[digital raptor]

you have to add those output shaders from the normal UE mod

[dusty girder]

  UECbufferConfig cb_config = CreateCbufferConfig();
  cb_config.ue_filmblackclip = asfloat(cb0[36].w);
  cb_config.ue_filmtoe = asfloat(cb0[36].y);
  cb_config.ue_filmshoulder = asfloat(cb0[36].z);
  cb_config.ue_filmslope = asfloat(cb0[36].x);
  cb_config.ue_filmwhiteclip = asfloat(cb0[37].x);
  cb_config.ue_tonecurveammount = asfloat(cb0[66].z);
  cb_config.ue_mappingpolynomial = asfloat(cb0[26].xyz);
  cb_config.ue_overlaycolor = asfloat(cb0[43].xyzw);
  cb_config.ue_bluecorrection = asfloat(cb0[66].x);
  cb_config.ue_colorscale = asfloat(cb0[42].yzw);

[digital raptor]

I think they're still missing from your extended mod

[dusty girder]

yea ik

I need the lutbuilders first

[digital raptor]

yea true

[dusty girder]

added the output shaders

since it takes 1 second

ima do 0x876F0F03 while I wait for the rest

ima use the hlsl repo since it has all the sm5 regex fixs already

[pastel sand]

On it. I'm already everving some weird effect and maybe some clamping.

[dusty girder]

well yea

the shaders arnt in there yet

you're just there to find the lutbuilders

and send them

this is a first

theere is no tonecurveammount

[pastel sand]

Sorry. I'm playing. This game is so good haha.

Been doing stuff with Dump LUT Shaders on. I can tes tmore areas if needed. Not sure how this work.

[dusty girder]

in the game folder

there isa /renodx/ folder

it should have stuff in it

also you have to restart the game after you enable dump lutshaders

its 5am so if you can get those lutbuilders and play later that would be nice

[pastel sand]

Nah just joking. I'm at it haha.

Restarting with dump LUT on.

Testing as many areas adn attacks as I can. This should help, right?

[dusty girder]

go to a few

so all the tonecurveammount does is

    // Tonemapped color in the AP1 gamut
    float3 ToneMappedColorAP1 = FilmToneMap( ColorAP1 );
    ColorAP1 = lerp(ColorAP1, ToneMappedColorAP1, ToneCurveAmount);

[pastel sand]

Forest, ice, city, cave... How do LUTs usuallt trigger? Just by entering or they can set more specifically for small areas and such?

[dusty girder]

if it doesnt exist, that should mean its 1?

[dusty girder]

look inside the folder

if more dont keep spawning

that means we're good

[pastel sand]

Just two. I think they're the same I got from when Akuru fixed it.

[digital raptor]

those were a different type of shader

please share them here

[pastel sand]

Oh I deleted them. But just guessing since they were 2. I can probaly recover them.

[dusty girder]

bruh

just post whatever appears in the renodx here

dont assume, just post

[pastel sand]

haha okok

[dusty girder]

only 1 file?

[pastel sand]

And this from renodev

[dusty girder]

you said there where 2 fies

[dusty girder]

no

I only care about files in the renodx folder

that dumped

the only file that dumped is that one file?

[digital raptor]

these really are from the last time with the devkit, you only need to share the ones in the /renodx/ folder

[pastel sand]

After visiting many biomes and fighting triggering as many effects as possible.

Just that one.

Can try again though.

[dusty girder]

ok

try this addon

it might be a bit broken

if it is lmk

also upgrade b8g8r8a8_typeless output size

and idk what else

you can do that now

[digital raptor]

I think arise doesn't need upgrades

and actively breaks with them

[pastel sand]

This were my settings.

[digital raptor]

oh wait no, rgba8typeless upgrades

[digital raptor]

should be good

[dusty girder]

these older UE shaders are missing the ToneCurveAmmount cbuffer, that controls this lerp

    // Blue correction
    ColorAP1 = lerp( ColorAP1, mul( BlueCorrectAP1, ColorAP1 ), BlueCorrection );

    // Tonemapped color in the AP1 gamut
    float3 ToneMappedColorAP1 = FilmToneMap( ColorAP1 );
    ColorAP1 = lerp(ColorAP1, ToneMappedColorAP1, ToneCurveAmount);

    // Uncorrect blue to maintain white point
    ColorAP1 = lerp( ColorAP1, mul( BlueCorrectInvAP1, ColorAP1 ), BlueCorrection );

    // Convert from AP1 to sRGB and clip out-of-gamut values
    float3 FilmColor = max(0, mul( AP1_2_sRGB, ColorAP1 ));

it lerps ap1 color and tonemapped color

so if its missing, 1.f should be the same

as it not existing

yea 1.f looks fine

[pastel sand]

Working fine, but red is almost pink.

[dusty girder]

set the tonemap test to psycho

set hue shift to 0, blowout to 0, and play with it

also please test this

[pastel sand]

Have another LUT file, but probably bacause I restarted the game?

[dusty girder]

send it

[dusty girder]

oh

it doenst have new_ in the name

thats fine

[dusty girder]

replace your addon with this

and please tell me if its broken or not

[pastel sand]

🫡

[dusty girder]

AI gaslit me on some of these older SM5 shaders

but it seems defaulting tonecurve to 1 is fine if it doesnt exist

[pastel sand]

With Dump LUT on just in case as well right?

[dusty girder]

you can keep it on if its not destroying your fps

but if the game is in hdr its fine

[pastel sand]

Oh I missed this.

r8g8r8a8_typeless came set to output by default in the latest add-on you shared.

Maybe it's just this.

[dusty girder]

arise is busted

ohh let me c

@digital raptor we're good, just set aa to taa

not taa + smaa

and I set these upgrades, but most arnt needed

https://i.imgur.com/REJDzb5.png

[digital raptor]

Ah so taa + smaa is not supported?

[dusty girder]

no, turning that off is what fixed it

sdr -- hdr (n2 max ch 100/100) -- Psycho (0/0)

[pastel sand]

Don't know what I did but I no longer see pink sword and fire even using N2 max Ch.

[dusty girder]

the game will be a bit more contrasty because I'm forcing the filmic tm instead of the legacy tm/mobile tm

but imo those tms look washed out

[pastel sand]

I can tell right away highlights are brighter using Psycho 0/0. But maybe due to bloom some materials are kind of blinding.

Guess it was like this before.

[dusty girder]

you can increase blowout a bit if you want

jjust turn off bloom

you know people talk shit about the filmic tm

but the legacy ue tm looks washed out

[pastel sand]

Yes I see you guys using those sliders very comfortably, but I don't want to break things so I'm asking GPT a bit about what exactly I should expect from each.

[dusty girder]

100 nit sdr in sdr with legacy tm

[pastel sand]

Also noticed Extended has way more contrast. Would this be the change in tm you're mentioning?

Extended N2 Max Ch/Generic

[dusty girder]

yes

you can offset it by increasing shadows or lowering contrast

for me it feels like a free next gen upgrade

[pastel sand]

Looks like a great option, but wouldn't it deviate a tad bit from the original look?

Oh I think this is what I saw on DQ XI mod, but have to double check. There are two options for UE tone map iirc.

[unique blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1411800884303626311/1433452103015202857/lutbuilder_new_0xE15EE8B3.ps_5_0.cso?ex=699d030d&is=699bb18d&hm=3bb9cd1ec3692b5a1d16363d75cffc5c1568a5fb716d6bf5d129bf46aa01d789&

Kujlevka
Couldn't get above 203 nits

[west canopy]

How do I get the psycho? Is this in the extended mod?

[digital raptor]

Yes

[pastel sand]

So Extended is a whole new tone mapper to keep an eye out for, but different from RenoDRT then? This is what I've come to understand within my limited knowledge haha. Then, if we don't want to mess that much with a game and keep closer to the out of the box look, Reno would be the choice I guess?

[untold wadi]

Since UEGeneric was released, Musa revamped unreal's tonemapper. Unreal extended uses Musa's code.

[pastel sand]

I see. An improvement I guess since Musa is an absolute reference here.

Does this have something to do with UE making some changes to how HDR is going to be implemented from now on in the pipeline or something like that?

[untold wadi]

No, previous method was made to be as generic as possible, and easy to implement

Extended more or less fixes UE's tonemapper

[pastel sand]

What would we be looking her ein extended? I've been trying it in a couple games now, but ends up feeling more pink.

[untold wadi]

Less white washed

[pastel sand]

Good to know. I definitely trust blindly you HDR sages, but I'm trying to be up to date and understand more and more when you guys talk haha.

[pastel sand]

This might be what Musa fixed #🧪lab message or I'm completely clueless still? Haha.

[untold wadi]

What's correct is a bit contentious 😅

Better to just think of it as a different approach for HDR

[ebon dome]

latest version of extended broke the UI in Crisol

[broken cave]

I tried several settings for Layers of Fear Remake but none seem to work. Is there a very specific setting for this game? Does it even need RenoDX?

[dusty girder]

@ebon dome I dont remember adding support for it