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[halcyon meteor]

His sequences are sick

[burnt oyster]

is there anything to do beside walking around and interact with objects

[halcyon meteor]

Lore

Immersion

[tepid pendant]

I think the only part that somewhat tops it for me right now is the end of chapter 8

[burnt oyster]

so like umm, detroit ?

[tepid pendant]

After connecting to the lab that was never finished

[halcyon meteor]

Detroit irl or

[tepid pendant]

And you need to cross the lake.

And then the cutscene with Higgs afterwards

[halcyon meteor]

Do you mean the ❤️ lake

[tepid pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-4293238202955520616

[tepid pendant]

Isn't the heart lake near Heartman

The small one

Where the voidout was caused

[halcyon meteor]

Highkirkuinely played that game like four years ago now so I don’t remember everything

[tepid pendant]

The lake I'm talking about is when you need to get dragged by catchers

And then run across the tar and buildings

To get to uhhh the west?

[halcyon meteor]

Oh yeah

That shit was sick

[tepid pendant]

And then after that

[halcyon meteor]

I want to replay before I play DS2

[tepid pendant]

You need to walk to another station

Through BT zones

And the first time I saw the flying BTs and tens of them

Shit was a tad bit stressful

[halcyon meteor]

I found playing on the highest difficulty very immersive

[tepid pendant]

Proud to say that my only official canon death happened on the lake

[halcyon meteor]

I feel like it hit just right

Yeah I can’t remember where I exploded once too

Rip Sam

[tepid pendant]

I almost died on the snow mountain when I wanted to fight BT once

So I let myself purposefully get caught

Just to see 2 absolute massive BTs surround me

Killed one, ran out of blood bags and everything else

300 HP

Had to get my ass out of there

[halcyon meteor]

I bet DS2 has some crazy sick BTs

[tepid pendant]

I was debating going with highest difficulty, but I went with hard.

Will play DS2 on TTW difficulty for sure

Ironically my whole addiction with DS started from all the short clips I've seen of Tomorrow

Started for the feet memes, stayed for walking.

[halcyon meteor]

i mean difficulty in ds to me is just whatever peaks your immersion

i think ppl don't let themselves be challenged enough in games like those where difficulty can really amplify immersion

[halcyon meteor]

yeah that sounds right

erase memes from that sentence

[tepid pendant]

Fuck, what was the symbol

Fixed

[tepid pendant]

DS2 technically starts off easier than DS1 did, so I feel fully prepared to judt try out TTW

Sam in DS2 doesn't suddenly lose all the skills of being less clumsy with packages

[halcyon meteor]

@tepid pendant do u have game installed

and do you actually play in sdr

i want to test a build

[tepid pendant]

Wuwa?

[halcyon meteor]

yes

[tepid pendant]

I'd need to get out of my bed, turn on the PC, update to 3.2

[halcyon meteor]

that's ok

[tepid pendant]

Always getting roped in for free labour

[halcyon meteor]

that's literally me

[tepid pendant]

Is it

How about I send you $5 so I don't have to test it

[halcyon meteor]

is that not to some degree every modder

i do it for the love of the game

[tepid pendant]

Love for wuwa

[halcyon meteor]

make it $5000

[tepid pendant]

Masochism

[halcyon meteor]

no the love of "the game"

in general

[tepid pendant]

Give me like

Idk

I'll ping you in a bit

Can't even watch TWD in peace

[halcyon meteor]

no it's ok i think i can test myself

[tepid pendant]

Not like season 9 is even good

[halcyon meteor]

i just don't want to deactivate hdr

[tepid pendant]

It'd be faster for you to deactivate HDR lmao

You just really caught me at a time that I don't want to do anything

I got back from work not too long ago

Working on Saturday, what sane person does that

[halcyon meteor]

no literally take it easy

[tepid pendant]

Only workaholics work on weekends

[halcyon meteor]

if you worked then you gotta chill

ok i fixed sdr

[tepid pendant]

I wonder, how terribly would wuwa perform on z2e handheld

[halcyon meteor]

you can use moonlight if you're just at home

it's so good

[tepid pendant]

Ironically

I think my handheld would outperform my pc

Ryzen 7 2700 with RTX 2070

DDR4 16gb lmao

[halcyon meteor]

yeah the prob is that ur phone might be able to do hdr

phones get bright af

[tepid pendant]

I mean

Legion Go 2 can do HDR as well

[halcyon meteor]

oh ok

then there u go

[tepid pendant]

Though I first need to bother myself to get reshade and reno to work on Linux.

I did go the easy way and just use decky to patch DS with reshade and whatever else they offer

But they don't have Reno as an option

Which is fucking weird

[halcyon meteor]

nobody cares about hdr

[tepid pendant]

Pretty much

HDR is well

Decently hard to set up properly

Most people enable whatever

See washed out image

Go on reddit and announce how HDR is bad compared to SDR

[halcyon meteor]

yeah tbf years back when i first tried it i was just like wow, this is broken and/or ass

and then just didn't bother

[tepid pendant]

I mean

Years back, I didn't even know what HDR was

It was a niche concept I assume lmao

[halcyon meteor]

yeah i mean it def was

oleds and hdr both

still ppl don't really know why they might want either

• Correct backbuffer format when using SDR

[tepid pendant]

Took a whole minute to update the build

Masochism

[halcyon meteor]

i realized the ui slider wasn't actually needed in sdr lol

[tepid pendant]

Well, its not exactly needed, but I would prefer to hide the UI elements even in SDR

[halcyon meteor]

oh yeah you still can

[tepid pendant]

Unless the location/UID and whatever else doesn't exist by default when using Reno.

Idk why Kuro even has those things displayed 24/7

[halcyon meteor]

no that's unaffected by foramt

literally no idea

doesn't every gacha do that tho

[tepid pendant]

Only Hoyo

But only UID

I think at least

[halcyon meteor]

never understood that

[tepid pendant]

Not sure for Endfield

[halcyon meteor]

is it so they can catch you when you upload ur gooner mod screenshots

[tepid pendant]

Tried it once, quit during the tutorial.

My issue with Endfield is just that it simply has that MMO jank

Single player game but stiff as a MMO game.

[halcyon meteor]

hmm wdym

bc i like mmos

but it's not an mmo in the good way?

[tepid pendant]

You're on WuWa atm

When you are just fighting something

Or just moving

Its smooth

[halcyon meteor]

hmm wow is actually smooth af

[tepid pendant]

Well relatively smooth if your FPS is ok in new maps.

[halcyon meteor]

other mmos i feel you tho

ff14 in particular

🤢

[tepid pendant]

But Endfield for example

It has this weird stiffness

Similar to WWM for example

If you've played WWM

The animations and whatever else are ok

[halcyon meteor]

i've not

[tepid pendant]

But the transitions from moving to combat and vice versa, its stiff.

[halcyon meteor]

where it feels like you're playing a rigid animation when you do shit or what

yeah sounds like what i'm guessing

big L

cannot do it

[tepid pendant]

I just simply call it MMO jank

Not that I have anything against MMOs

Its just what I call it lmao

Because every MMO I've tried, it has that stiff jank feeling.

[halcyon meteor]

wow is def not that

but wow is unique in that way

obv wow has the issue of being tab target which can feel lame in its own way but wcyd

as far as a button pusher game goes, it's peak

[tepid pendant]

Tower of Fantasy is another good example

When talking about that MMO jank.

The animations and stuff are ok

But the transitions between everything

Its just really stiff

[rigid yoke]

i think if i personally compare wwm and endfield, endfield kinda better in the animation department

[tepid pendant]

Its not about the animations themselves

[halcyon meteor]

you gotta play mmos that don't have big boob anime girls my man

[tepid pendant]

Its about the stiffness of transitions between actions.

[tepid pendant]

I did give BDO a shot

But it also has big boobies

[halcyon meteor]

i miss running circles in bdo

something about trying to eke out every bit of efficiency with your skillset is 🤌

[echo ridge]

Have u told him to restart the game

[tepid pendant]

I might give BDO a shot again

Well, technically I didn't give it a shot

I simply didn't play after initially creating my character

[halcyon meteor]

yes and he said he did

but sdr was outputting to an hdr format for some reason

not sure why

[tepid pendant]

For whatever fucking reason the game was capped at 30 FPS on Linux at the time I played

[halcyon meteor]

it's fixed now but i don't remember how it used to work

[tepid pendant]

And it wouldn't uncap no matter what

[halcyon meteor]

either way, it made me improve how the mod handles sdr/vanilla settings so that works out

[halcyon meteor]

yeah that's why i don't fuck with linux yet unless i'm gonna bother with a dual boot

[tepid pendant]

Might give BDO a fair shot on my handheld

[tepid pendant]

Linux is generally ok if you're not doing anything extra in most cases.

[halcyon meteor]

oh ya just don't do uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tepid pendant]

Might have to change Proton versions there and there for games for better performance

But if you're trying to get external tools to work for games, especially modding.

Welcome to the hell of Wine.

[halcyon meteor]

yeeaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[tepid pendant]

I actually got close to getting Xenoverse 2 with mods to work.

The issue is that I just didn't know enough about Wine to see if it'd work if I created a separate launch option for it specificically as a game.

When trying to launch the .exe by itself, wine tried to run it, but nothing happened.

Tried to run it through terminal to see if it crashes, no logs.

So it wasn't even launching.

I could probably try again, but I cba.

I have the game currently modded on my desktop which runs windows for now

Waiting for cuntvidia to fix their shitty ass drivers.

But at this point, I think I'll end up upgrading to 9070xt first before that happens.

Though, I don't see the need to upgrade atm since I've got the handheld

[halcyon meteor]

do you have the handheld because your desktop is linux?

[tepid pendant]

Not a smart decision to upgrade the PC after such expenses, and my handheld is capable of running games.

[tepid pendant]

No, the handheld is on Linux.

Desktop is on windows.

[halcyon meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-top-hat-class-sir-gif-11493269

[halcyon meteor]

oh lmao

[alpine orchid]

I just installed cachyos, and after adding some steam launch options hdr seems to be working mostly okay. I still need to get an hdr image viewer and also my main complaint is that adjusting the "average brightness level" (desktop brightness) adjusts hdr content brightness too unless I'm just looking at the wrong setting

[gloomy prairie]

windows break things so often it's kinda annoying me lately

last year issue still not fixed

with sandbox

have to use this script just to launch it and behave normally

prob not the best excuse but a good one for basic function

[wet crane]

we are getting back the 1.x illusive realm event 😮

[halcyon meteor]

@wet crane does the latest build address your complaints at all btw?

there was one actual fix that needed to happen, and then highlight saturation is back as well

[wet crane]

I will test it tonight 🙂

[wet crane]

@halcyon meteor I did a quick test, and the highlight saturation helps with the VFX saturation issue

[halcyon meteor]

ok that's good

[wet crane]

but the main issue is with purple/cyan

[halcyon meteor]

shadows should be lighter too (i think they were previously being double-tone mapped)

[wet crane]

shorekeeper is just blue now

no more cyan/purple effects

[halcyon meteor]

still need to identify what's happening with hues

[echo ridge]

slop in the hue correction stuff i had

also SK's blue is fine

ehe

[wet crane]

I mean you can turn her into green if that's your thing

[echo ridge]

if you can turn it into 3000 nits yellow dio will play this game

[echo ridge]

[dusty tiger]

What does this eye adaptation stuff do?
Seems like it made the character screen a bit darker?

[halcyon meteor]

it uses the data from the game's engine about the scene's average luminance to properly set where in our tonemapper's curve our color is. otherwise it just assumes mid gray, which isn't a bad fallback, but using the real average luminance is more aligned with how psychov-17 expects to work

[dusty tiger]

Makes sense.
Resonator screen is a bit too dark it feels like. I pulled the strength back to 60, seems a bit more accurate to me at least.

[halcyon meteor]

what's the "scene avg" say under the eye exposure setting on that screen?

[halcyon meteor]

ooooooo huhhhhhhhh

[dusty tiger]

that's at 60

[halcyon meteor]

yeah the engine is reporting it's way brighter than reality

i think it's not actually providing proper luminance data there

[dusty tiger]

RIP

Yeah. Cause this is it at 100

[halcyon meteor]

yeah i'll just have to update my detection

[wet crane]

idk it looks fine imo

the game no longer goes from very dark to very bright

it feels more natural now

[dusty tiger]

In game it's good. It's just the character screen so far.

[wet crane]

ahh yea

[halcyon meteor]

yeah it's just the character screen that doesn't report its luminance correctly, everywhere else is a good idea i think

[wet crane]

yea

[dusty tiger]

That something that can be fixed on your end or is it a game issue?

[wet crane]

it's not just the character selection screen btw

all menu screens

[halcyon meteor]

it can be fixed, but technically it's a game issue bc i guess it's assuming there's no need for exposure adjustment when a menu is open (which is correct most of the time)

though i wish it didn't default to 1, that's a little annoying

[dusty tiger]

That does sound annoying.
Hopefully it won't be too hard to solve, but this IS WuWa so....

[halcyon meteor]

the fast and lazy way would just be to check if that number is exactly 1, assume that it's invalid, because it veerrrrrrrrrrrrrrry likely never will be

[wet crane]

other than the menu stuff and hue issue, this is pretty good:

[lunar birch]

it is working now btw

[wet crane]

or if the eye adaptation thing bothers you then this:

[lunar birch]

idk if it's just me or the auto-exposure in wuwa kinda ass

[halcyon meteor]

very cool

[wet crane]

it is but it's required for some locations to "function" correctly

[lunar birch]

does look pretty

but some parts i can't see anything

well maybe my brightness is too low. but my room really dark so im gonna go blind if too much brightness

[lunar birch]

they really need to make it so game filters apply to everything 🥀

[wet crane]

why do you want to use the filters?

we have reno

[lunar birch]

im not using hdr

so most settings are not available for sdr

[ancient jungle]

can u still use reno with sdr? i thought they removed color space toggle and fixed it to P3?

nvm just saw the new update
ig it auto detects?

[halcyon meteor]

it doesn't auto detect, it defaults to hdr10

[ancient jungle]

so u can't use sdr with reno right? or is there a toggle for that?

[halcyon meteor]

yes the swap chain preset lets you now

[tepid pendant]

sure they are

if there's a will, there's a way

[frozen token]

MPauls Vanilla+ (No EA) vs my Slop+

[halcyon meteor]

have you ever thought about just cranking highlights to like 200

[dusty tiger]

Slop+ looks pretty crazy.

Don't know if I would want to use it all the time but it makes for some good shots at the least.

[frozen token]

[dusty tiger]

Is there any way I can objectively know what I am supposed to set for the Cone Response setting or is it just arbitrary?

Might be a ShortFuse question but I figured I'd at least ask here first before bothering him.

[halcyon meteor]

legitimately there's nothing objective, i might just recommend doing as much contrast/saturation adjustment with it as you can because it's directly integrated with our tonemapper?

because that's essentially what it manifests as

(contrast and saturation, that is)

[dusty tiger]

Contrast and saturation really is how it manifests, I agree.
Seems like it's supposed to be a means to adjust for how our eyes individually perceive images.
Was just wondering if there was an objective way of calibrating it, but I guess not.

Currently have it set to 55. Seems to be where the SDR "haze" goes away. But before highlight saturation starts to do weird shit.

[halcyon meteor]

oh no definitely nothing objective, it's just a "smarter" way to get to what you might prefer i guess.

you don't need to be a purist with it or anything if you find it contrasts more than you want it to saturate or vice versa

[wet crane]

This is my preset btw

[frozen token]

Seeing the sdr haze is my curse

[wet crane]

discord dims HDR images btw, yours is even crazier is you download it an open it with a HDR viewer lol

250 nits avg brightness

[frozen token]

yours just looks dim in general to me

[wet crane]

nah it's not dim

I mean compared to yours sure

xDD

the paperwhite value is fixed now tho

[ancient jungle]

i think its best to just upload a jxl file?

instead of png?

[dusty tiger]

Why is the paperwhite fixed now?
Because don't you normally have to raise it if you are in a brighter room? It's hasn't really been a "set and forget" kind of value.

But I mean... things change.

[wet crane]

does discord support jxl now?

[frozen token]

no

[wet crane]

this isthe heatmap of your pic btw

[ancient jungle]

no but from what i googled png file isn't true hdr?

[wet crane]

it is

[frozen token]

what is the best way to see hdr images on a phone? my one plus13 has a really good display apparently

[ancient jungle]

when i view the png in windows photos app it looks different from jxl though

[wet crane]

don't use the photo app

[frozen token]

yah dont

[ancient jungle]

what should i use instead?

[wet crane]

use a HDR image viewer like SKIV

[frozen token]

I did that too for a while and its bad

[frozen token]

Just install specail K and it should be in the files

[dusty tiger]

Chrome is better than image viewer. Even if it isn't the best at least it works.

[wet crane]

or you can use HDR + WCG image viewer

[wet crane]

or wait it does not fully support PNGs

my bad

@halcyon meteor why did you remove game brightness btw?

[ancient jungle]

thanks ya now i can definitely view png hdr correctly

[wet crane]

is it a fixed value now or does it auto adjusts based on the edid value?

[ancient jungle]

btw can i open SKIV from the SK launcher? or do i just need to call the exe?

[wet crane]

you don't have to launch SK

[halcyon meteor]

it's mega arbitrary and just doesn't actually mean anything with the new tonemapper

exposure is meant for those adjustments now

[wet crane]

hmm okay

because then yea, you have to adjust the exposure now, 1.0 can be definitely dim if your display is brighter

[rigid yoke]

open in browser from discord app

[ancient jungle]

didn't touch any of my chrome settings
but if i put an hdr png file in it
it doesn't display hdr

[dusty tiger]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that 1.0 is meant for 1,000 peak.

[wet crane]

the sun looks really cool now btw

[wet crane]

I don't think so

1.0 feels like ~170 game brightness

I actually recommend increasing exposure to 1.1

[dusty tiger]

Yeah. Just quickly playing with the Exposure, 0 measurement, I also found that around 1.1 feels about right.

At least on my 920 peak nit monitor.

[halcyon meteor]

@echo ridge trying to get output shaders dumping like LUTs

I think it’s doable

Should make patches a lot easier

That way, when you’re collecting you don’t need to snapshot and dump, and then users could get them for us too

[echo ridge]

Right now i just play the game for half an hour

And dump 12k shaders

Then run a powershell command

[halcyon meteor]

Ooooog

H

Yeah you know what that’s not a bad idea

[echo ridge]

To delete all the shaders that doesnt have a specific constant

gci *.hlsl | ? { !(sls "1.0049500465393066f - (0.1" $_.FullName -SimpleMatch -Quiet) } | ri

That seems to catch pretty much most of the output shaders

Only downside is processing time

Since 12k shaders

[halcyon meteor]

yeah for sure

i mean i'm just thinking this way would be even easier for you if i can find the right heuristic

[frozen token]

MPaul Vannila+ (NO EA) vs Slop% Now at 1 exposure

[dusty tiger]

What are these Slop+ settings?

[frozen token]

Im just making a name for my preset for fun. I had more saturation originally but the browning of things made me set it back.

[halcyon meteor]

uhh 100 shadows?

are they too dark for you normally?

[frozen token]

my cone shit is high and things got too dark (I do not play with eye adaptation and auto exposure on)

100 is a temp value

[gloomy prairie]

mac is pretty polished for hdr viewing, i can see perfect hdr in discord without opening anything/switch to hdr on/off

[dusty tiger]

Add it to the list of Windows problems...

[gloomy prairie]

you kinda need to toggle hdr on linux as well isn't it ?

on Mac the HDR window just get focused and the SDR background get dimmed

and it's brighten back automatically when you close the super bright hdr window

still i wonder why iphone doesn't have the same behavior on discord, it's just grey pic unless you tap on it to load the full size

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-blinding-blind-cat-bang-gif-4926374158130383468

[frozen token]

Ok Slop+ look good to me now I got play Deadlock

[glad mauve]

@echo ridge @halcyon meteor when aurora borealis?????

You can ctrl c + ctrl v code

from reno

[latent wigeon]

@halcyon meteor when fart???

https://tenor.com/view/shorekeeper-wuwa-shorekeeper-dance-dance-satoes-gif-14644907472125540178

[halcyon meteor]

• Enable dumping of output shaders and LUT builders
• Add per-cone and perceptual hue restoration sliders
• Add LUT builder and output shader patch status indicators
• Reorganize settings and generate section colors dynamically
• Add menu shader finder tool
• Pause eye adaptation when fullscreen menus are open
• Keep UI elements visible in fullscreen menus (may need a fix)

[halcyon meteor]

NOW

[halcyon meteor]

NOW

[dusty tiger]

Damn! This is probably the most development this addon has gotten in a long time. XD

[echo ridge]

Modders get the reno deegs itch

Solution is to either mod more slop

Or uninstall ide

[halcyon meteor]

i was itchin

[verbal schooner]

eye adaptation is not working for me, its always stuck at 1

[halcyon meteor]

that doesn't mean it's not working, it just means the game doesn't want to apply additional exposure. but it's still having an effect on the tonemapper regardless.

if it doesn't have the data it needs or goes stale, it'll indicate

[verbal schooner]

hmm so what is actually supposed to be doing? like i'm looking at the sun and moving the slider for adaptation strength and nothing is happening

also walking past an npc with a dialogue box seems to trigger the fullscreen menu detection and it's also always on in the speed up fuel event

[halcyon meteor]

it's not going to be that kind of eye adaptation, basically it decides how much the tone mapper uses about what the game reports about a scene's average luminance to determine where we end up on its curve

[halcyon meteor]

ew ok i'll just add a slider to disable that functionality for now. i made a pretty good method to test what the full screen menu shader is and swore i narrowed it down to the right one

[verbal schooner]

gotcha, I was just trying to see what difference it was making

[halcyon meteor]

it's subtle in most scenes

it has to be some extreme of like very dark or very bright

[frozen token]

Havent messed with eye slop yet.

[halcyon meteor]

• Use epsilon comparison to fix eye adaptation staleness detection
• Add toggle to ignore menu state for UI opacity

[halcyon meteor]

Try this new slider for now

I’m not sure the method I planned on using for the menu decision is going to work, but in the meantime that’ll prevent it

[verbal schooner]

new slider works

[halcyon meteor]

If you enable shader tools you can see the method I used to try to figure out the menu shader

[halcyon meteor]

You guys have a rainbow menu now

My work is done

[vital moss]

Nice now opacity is finally usable

[rustic oriole]

Should i update to the new build? like huge differences or not that imp n can do l8

[halcyon meteor]

I’d say update

[halcyon meteor]

I hope so. It’s tough to figure out if the menu is open or not from what’s available to me

[alpine orchid]

so is game brightness basically hard coded at 203 now?

[tepid pendant]

@halcyon meteor the first fight against huge ass BT with Higgs, and then fighting Higgs was just so good

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

especially the third phase

genuinely fuck the second phase of Higgs lmao

@alpine orchid iirc it was you who set up reshade on Linux

mind walking me through?

I got it set up, but I got an older version of reshade

the only way that worked on my end was setting it up through this https://github.com/kevinlekiller/reshade-steam-proton

I tried using STL, but when reshade menu pops open, nothing is detected, going through libraries, steam library is empty.

[halcyon meteor]

not quite for the same purpose as before, but technically there is something that psychov-17 uses that is hard-coded to 203

[halcyon meteor]

ho lee shit yes

[alpine orchid]

Sure but give me a few minutes trying to sort out why my data partitions from windows aren't mounting when I boot

[halcyon meteor]

• Improved reliability of auto-exposure detection during cutscenes and fullscreen menus

❗ Enable Ignore Menu State if UI visibility sliders are not working.

[tepid pendant]

all good

my handheld is charging either way

[alpine orchid]

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dxgi=n,b" %command%

I have these set under steam's launch options. You should probably remove the PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 flag on handheld

I'm using proton-10 under compability (the cachyos version but I'm sure your handheld has a similar proton 10 version)

and I was using this version of reshade in the client/binaries/win64 folder

[tepid pendant]

I don't think I need any of the launch options, thanks for the file, will check it later.

everything works fine for me atm without any of the launch options

[alpine orchid]

wait so is it not seeing your addons and shaders? or what's the current issue

[tepid pendant]

No, everything right now works, the issue is that the reshade version I'm using is outdated

I couldn't get the .exe to work no matter what to get the reshade files in game folder

or is it just 1 file?

[tepid pendant]

So I used this, and now I have outdated reshade version which does work.

[alpine orchid]

what does your wuthering waves/client/binaries/win64 folder look like right now?

[halcyon meteor]

which exe? reshade or game?

[tepid pendant]

reshade

okay fuck this is confusing

[tepid pendant]

it wasn't initially for wuwa, but death stranding lol

Okay give me a minute to start over

I initially downloaded reshade

[alpine orchid]

you ideally want to end up with the reshade dll in your /client/binaries/win64 folder as dxgi.dll

[tepid pendant]

I tried opening just the .exe itself through wine, it didn't work, and it was not surprising.

[alpine orchid]

and then you launch the game through steam and it loads and loads the reno addon as well

[tepid pendant]

I tried using steamtinkerlaunch for reshade in steam after I added it to steam as an app.

that worked, and reshade menu popped up

but it couldn't detect my games nor was my library anywhere.

[alpine orchid]

you mean the reshade installer gui?

[tepid pendant]

I then used this which set up reshade in the folder where the .exe of the game itself is

[tepid pendant]

yup

[tepid pendant]

and that worked

but I have outdated version of reshade atm

so I'm wondering how do I go around to setting up latest version of reshade

for whatever game I want

[alpine orchid]

I'm going to be honest, I've always installed it manually by dropping the Reshade64.dll into the game's folder and renaming it as dxgi.dll

[tepid pendant]

its that fucking simple?

[alpine orchid]

yeah

[tepid pendant]

I'm so retarded

thank you

[alpine orchid]

no problem

the reshade installer literally just drops the dxgi.dll file into the game's folder, adds the reshade-shaders and Textures/Shaders folders

and then the reno add-on goes in the same folder as dxgi.dll

[tepid pendant]

yeah

I don't need anything other than renodx

though, the uh

how it was called

[alpine orchid]

you can just paste a newer dxgi.dll over the current one

and it'll work

(make sure to use an add-on enabled build)

[tepid pendant]

the thing that checks the colors or whatever or whatever the fucking thing was

would be useful to have

[alpine orchid]

lilium's hdr analysis?

[tepid pendant]

Yes

that

[alpine orchid]

basically, if you make a "reshade-shaders" folder and drop the "Textures" and "Shaders" folders from lilium's shader in there, it'll work

(inside the same directory as dxgi.dll, which is the /client/win64 folder for wuwa)

[lunar birch]

sorry to bother, but is it possible to make the fix of SDR for sRGB? 🤔

[tepid pendant]

I currently just dropped my reshade dxgi.dll in /plugins that I created

and optiscaler just looks to launch that

I couldn't get both to work otherwise lmao

[alpine orchid]

Ohhh you're using optiscaler

well that should work too

[tepid pendant]

yeah

where can I uh

[alpine orchid]

You might have to go into reshade's settings and make sure it's looking for the right paths for Effects and Textures (under settings)

[tepid pendant]

find the Reshade64.dll and lilium's shader

[tepid pendant]

it looks for everything in the Plugins folder

so its ok

[alpine orchid]

https://github.com/EndlesslyFlowering/ReShade_HDR_shaders this is where lilium's shaders are

#📝welcome message you can download one of the reshade builds from here

if it downloads the exe, right click and open archive

[halcyon meteor]

sorry what do you mean here? what's going wrong atm?

[alpine orchid]

the reshade .exe is a self-extracting archive, you can open it like you would a .zip or .7z and pull the dll file out of it

[tepid pendant]

sounds good, I'll be checking it out later, thanks for the help!

[lunar birch]

the same thing the brightness thing

[alpine orchid]

no problem, hopefully it all makes sense so yeah you can basically open the .exe as an archive, drop that newer dll where optiscaler wants to load it, and that'll get you updated

[tepid pendant]

dolphin allows that, right?

[halcyon meteor]

wait what, i thought the sdr slider was working

[alpine orchid]

you can right click and extract, yeah

that'll work

[halcyon meteor]

yeah i also haven't installed reshade through the exe almost ever

extracting dll is way easier

[tepid pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[alpine orchid]

this is what's under the hood

[lunar birch]

yeah it is working for sdr, i was just asking if it was possible for scrgb since it has custom color grading that i wanted to try

[ancient jungle]

but don't u need to manually install some basic reshade shaders if u do that? (assuming ur using other shader stuff)

[echo ridge]

doesnt matter

keep it in sdr mode

switch to renodrt

and then use the sliders

unless wino did sth weird and lock the sliders

[alpine orchid]

you can paste the reshade-shaders folder in (or point the config to them somewhere else if you already have them downloaded0

I often just don't install them if I'm not using them, since the shaders just being there does incur a small performance hit (like 3-4% but still)

[lunar birch]

yeah that

there's no custom colors in sdr

[ancient jungle]

ya i didn't need to do that if i didn't use any of the reshade shaders, but if i tried to use one, then it tells me im missing those basic shader files

[lunar birch]

only these settings

[echo ridge]

oh

thats for wino to handle then

if you still wanna try grading sliders you can use this

[rustic oriole]

what can i use for hdr look

[rustic oriole]

does the preset still work

[echo ridge]

yes

[echo ridge]

Peak = game = UI = 1

encoding = SRGB, gamma correction = off

@rustic oriole the pic up is not the hdr look preset

[rustic oriole]

I dont ge tthis 😭

[echo ridge]

cause bro im in another convo

lol

read lol

[rustic oriole]

ah xD

[lunar birch]

i see lemme check

[echo ridge]

remember to restart game

if you're switching encoding from hdr10 -> srgb or scrgb -> srgb

[halcyon meteor]

i have a folder where i keep all my reshade effects and textures i might want to install + a basic reshade.ini that references them, so when i install reshade to a game i just move the dll and copy my basic reshade.ini so that gets handled

[lunar birch]

uh

[echo ridge]

try launchign it again

occasionally the game just wont launch

[halcyon meteor]

uh i can look into whether or not sdr would work with the non-vanilla tonemapper, but the assumption right now is that sdr uses vanilla, and vanilla doesn't apply those settings

[lunar birch]

welp, it don't open

[echo ridge]

there's no reason it shouldn't we're just setting sdr values and have renodrt slop to those values

are you doing an SDR swapchain with the sdr mode right now

[rustic oriole]

why does the game look "better" now? or is it just me tweaking

[halcyon meteor]

it does to me too but idk why

i did some thiings

[halcyon meteor]

ya ok i can see

[rustic oriole]

ty for the things

[echo ridge]

better from what

[halcyon meteor]

do you mean sdr format backbuffer?

[echo ridge]

ya sdr format backbuffer

[halcyon meteor]

bc i switched to using the renodx preset constants + swapchainpass

[echo ridge]

should be the way to go for sdr since reshade will then take SDR screenshots

[halcyon meteor]

so whatever that would be doing in the swapchainpass

[rustic oriole]

ur one hdr look

[halcyon meteor]

yea sdr format backbuffer

[halcyon meteor]

it wasn't doing that before and idk why

or maybe it was idk

it was forever ago that someone wanted to use scrgb for sdr and i had it working at that moment i think

[rustic oriole]

status text n some stuff doesnt seem to work

do i have to set it up?

[halcyon meteor]

can you show me your ui settings?

[lunar birch]

using this the game won't open, just crash

[halcyon meteor]

turn on Ignore Menu State, i'm in the middle of fixing menu detection

[rustic oriole]

whats this psychov tonemapper btw

in v simple terms

compared to the old ones

[halcyon meteor]

i think it thinks you have a menu open rn

[rustic oriole]

it works

[echo ridge]

welp

[halcyon meteor]

tries to handle colors in a way that more align with how human vision reacts

[echo ridge]

RIP for you

works fine for me

[halcyon meteor]

@lunar birch try backing up and then deleting your reshade ini, see if that works

[echo ridge]

yes but compared to what

compared to 3.1 mods?

[rustic oriole]

u uploaded some final version with a lot of changes

that one

[tepid pendant]

dev build incident all over again

[echo ridge]

to be fair i never intended to share that build it was something i made for personal reasons

[tepid pendant]

I don't think that was what I meant

unless I'm misremembering something

[echo ridge]

    auto* encoding_setting = new renodx::utils::settings::Setting{
        .key = "SwapChainEncoding",
        .binding = &shader_injection.swap_chain_encoding,
        .value_type = renodx::utils::settings::SettingValueType::INTEGER,
        .default_value = 4.f,
        .label = "Encoding",
        .section = "Resource Upgrades",
        .tooltip = "Sets output encoding.",
        .labels = {
            "None",
            "SRGB",
            "2.2",
            "2.4",
            "HDR10",
            "scRGB",
        },
        .parse = [](float value) {
          if (value <= 0.f) return 0.f;
          if (value >= 5.f) return 5.f;
          return value;
        },
        .on_change_value = [](float /*previous*/, float current) {
          const bool is_hdr10 = (current == 4.f);
          const bool is_sdr = (current < 4.f);

          renodx::mods::swapchain::SetUseHDR10(is_hdr10);
          renodx::mods::swapchain::use_resize_buffer = is_sdr;
          renodx::mods::swapchain::use_resize_buffer_on_demand = is_sdr;
          renodx::mods::swapchain::set_color_space = !is_sdr;
          shader_injection.swap_chain_encoding_color_space = is_hdr10 ? 1.f : 0.f;
        },
        .is_global = true,
        .is_visible = []() { return settings[0]->GetValue() >= 2; },
    };
    add_setting(encoding_setting);

    const float encoding = encoding_setting->GetValue();
    const bool is_hdr10 = (encoding == 4.f);
    const bool is_sdr = (encoding < 4.f);

    renodx::mods::swapchain::SetUseHDR10(is_hdr10);
    renodx::mods::swapchain::use_resize_buffer = is_sdr;
    renodx::mods::swapchain::use_resize_buffer_on_demand = is_sdr;
    renodx::mods::swapchain::set_color_space = !is_sdr;
    shader_injection.swap_chain_encoding_color_space = is_hdr10 ? 1.f : 0.f;
  }```

this is what i used for sdr support

should just use an sdr swapchain and everything working

[halcyon meteor]

ok cool, when did we have that

[echo ridge]

no it was in a personal build that i didn't commit

but should be drop in to replace the upgrade_usescrgb in the current build

[tepid pendant]

no, wait, I think I am misremembering it

was it dev kit?

[halcyon meteor]

i see, i'll take a look at it soon then

[tepid pendant]

when one of the versions for 3.1 iirc was crashing unless dev kit was on

[echo ridge]

ya after setting to SDR swapchain we can just hardset peak/game/ui to 1

both vanilla and renodrt should work with that

[rustic oriole]

hud opacity isa nice

[halcyon meteor]

take a look at the swapchain presets in the codebase now

i was trying to leave it to those to handle but i'm not sure if they work as expected

maybe just some additional work is needed

[tepid pendant]

welp

if anyone knows why this happened and could point out my error, I would be glad

[alpine orchid]

Oh, um, there may be some .h files it depends on from the main reshade shaders

Check and see if the file in the error message is in the files you downloaded, maybe it didn't get pasted in?

[ancient jungle]

thats exactly what u get if u only extract the dll
ull need to copy over the base shader files into their respective folders

[rustic oriole]

I use rhi mostly

[rustic oriole]

Ur missing some base shader files

And ur presets path might not be set properly

[tepid pendant]

Presets path is ok

I'll check the error log as suggested earlier

@halcyon meteor got to chapter 11 with Vietnam War, the way Cliff just walks out is peak.

And the cigarette throw into the tar

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

I died twice though

Second time I realised that I need to sneak around and take out the guards.

Too many of them.

[halcyon meteor]

oh yeah boy

absolute aura beast

[tepid pendant]

The reveal about Die-Hardman was also epic.

Finding out what he did and why Cliff is doing what he is doing.

[frozen token]

need to use the screenshot function in Reshade

[silk rock]

🧐 we need more cosmic regions

[verbal schooner]

when are we getting shortfuse's perceptual auto exposure for wuwa

[vital moss]

idk be happy we get updates at all tbh

[halcyon meteor]

where did this come from?

[silk rock]

#crimson-desert message

pinned

[halcyon meteor]

i see, asking bc i think @fallen roost plans on removing game brightness as a slider, so i'm assuming he just didn't care to tell the slopper otherwise

but i'm pretty sure i have implemented that at least partially. the problem with wuwa is that i don't have access to preexposed scene color like they do in crimson desert, so my eye adaptation is a lot less dramatic

[verbal schooner]

was half joking but it would be cool since the auto exposure we have is on the shitty side where it changes agressively and they use it as a hack to light dark areas

[frozen token]

after testing the last few days I can see why. tho I will miss that slider

[halcyon meteor]

yeah, i mean i could just implement custom auto exposure, it wouldn't be terrible. i was just gonna see first if i could trust the game

[halcyon meteor]

you can just do exposure to like 5

[verbal schooner]

auto exposure off vs on

[halcyon meteor]

yooo at least my detector is detecting correctly

that's cool

[verbal schooner]

ya started working for me in the latest version

[echo ridge]

Uh

I think he means off on the buult in autoecp

In the game

Not the addon

[halcyon meteor]

wat

no i mean the text that appears under the slider

it correctly identified that there was no auto exposure data bc he had it disabled in the game

[echo ridge]

Ah ok

i havent opened the game in days

[halcyon meteor]

YOUR ASTRITES

[halcyon meteor]

👍 or 👎 to the slider values looking like this? technically it's more representative of how they each actually work

i could've cropped that less but that's the custom grading section

[halcyon meteor]

• Slider values now display their units
• Certain grading sliders now show as signed adjustments around a neutral 0
• PsychoV-17 tone mapper can now be used with SDR @lunar birch

❗ Enable Ignore Menu State if UI visibility sliders are not working.

[tepid pendant]

@halcyon meteor question

While using RenoDX

How should I use the brightness settings

I assume my peak brightness should be like 1000 since my display can do 1000 peak

And how do I handle the game brightness itself?

Leave it at 203?

The only weird thing I noticed is that Reno sets my peak brightness to 1499 automatically lmao

Idk why

[halcyon meteor]

Mine too, I think what RenoDX reads might be unreliable or not always populated by the OS or display (idk which is responsible)

[halcyon meteor]

Pretty much whatever you want, there’s not a right way to set it and it’s just however bright you want the game to be

However it’s gone away with recent updates as it doesn’t serve its intended purpose

And exposure should just be adjusted instead

[tepid pendant]

Should set it to 1000 I guess then.

[halcyon meteor]

Oh yes

[tepid pendant]

Oh, my display peak brightness is 1100

[tepid pendant]

Its still there for Death Stranding

I pretty much just kept defaults.

[halcyon meteor]

Sorry its nice when it works but for me it only works if I run a tool outside of the game

(The auto peak reading I mean)

[tepid pendant]

But I think my black colours are a tad bit weird

I think its crushing blacks as its called?

[halcyon meteor]

Probably using the older tone mapper that’s still using game brightness

[tepid pendant]

I'm not exactly sure.

[halcyon meteor]

If everything is on defaults then it’s most certainly a display thing

[tepid pendant]

Nah, not everything is at defaults

[halcyon meteor]

Not every display handles near black equally

[tepid pendant]

I have a brightness slider cranked to max in TDP, and for Death Stranding, I think I set it at 70?

I'm planning to get Lilium's HDR analysis working later, I barely understand the tool and what I should be looking for there to adjust things if they're not exactly correct.

[halcyon meteor]

Oh well it’s truthfully not about being correct

You can make things look ass of course

But adjustments from the defaults +-20 is typically safe range without going insane

But yes, her graphs are good

For seeing things you can’t “see” right away in the image

[tepid pendant]

As far as I've gotten asking questions about the display of the handheld, TB1000 is apparently almost as good as it can get(?)

Not sure if anything else is relevant.

HDR is such a complicated thing to learn about because its a lot of gibberish.

[halcyon meteor]

1000 nits is very good

OLED?

[tepid pendant]

Yeah

[halcyon meteor]

Yeah then you’re golden

0 to 1000

What more can you need

[tepid pendant]

Knowledge

[halcyon meteor]

[tepid pendant]

But I did see some improvements with HDR when using Reno

The game is definitely brighter while keeping the details

Though, I've tried it at a bad time between the end of chapter 10 and start of 11

Walking back during dark time to the knot, then getting into the storm for Vietnam War which is happening during the night

[halcyon meteor]

How did you have hdr without it

Oh you meant death stranding lol

[tepid pendant]

The game has native HDR

Yeah

LMAO

Fuck wuwa, I'm not gonna bother playing it on the handheld

[halcyon meteor]

Duuuude yeah I played with native

I need to play DS with Reno

[tepid pendant]

And I cba to ping you in the Death Stranding thread.

[tepid pendant]

I don't think the native was all that bad generally?

[halcyon meteor]

Why, controller is great for this game

[halcyon meteor]

I didn’t think so but I was a noob at the time. I thought it looked sick af

[tepid pendant]

But I also went from my cheap monitor to an OLED

So my opinion is flawed

[tepid pendant]

Because Chinese devs can't optimise their game

I don't think I will realistically get good performance

[halcyon meteor]

Oh fair

[tepid pendant]

And even if I do, the battery life would be more abysmal than playing actual AAA games.

[halcyon meteor]

I wish they’d just clean up the stutter

[tepid pendant]

I'm currently running Death Stranding at max settings that are available for handheld with 1080p res at 15w TDP

[halcyon meteor]

It feels like something is wrong with their shader compilation

[tepid pendant]

The game runs smoothly

[halcyon meteor]

15W is crazy

[tepid pendant]

I think I have FSR 3.1 on as well right now.

[tepid pendant]

The reported usage is 26w, but I do have it limited at 15w, idk.

I think its using more for whatever else as well lmao

But, yeah. Decima engine is fucking bonkers.

[halcyon meteor]

Blessed for real

Kojima does not cut corners

[tepid pendant]

I'm glad that Kojima left Konami and decided to really work on his own vision rather than being stuck with MGS games.

[halcyon meteor]

Yeah nobody should be controlling his vision

[tepid pendant]

Sadly, he's not interested in working on more DS games even though, he does have a full script for third game already.

[halcyon meteor]

Eh that’s alright

Every good game can end

[tepid pendant]

Its more the fact that DS can really be stretched to quite a few games connecting the whole world and showing how people around the world are doing, but that would probably get old really fast.

It would be hard to outdo the cast of first 2 games.

[halcyon meteor]

Bridge to China DLC?

[tepid pendant]

Would love to see the great wall weaponized

China region would probably go hard though

Isn't China generally really mountainy-ish?

Whatever the word is

[halcyon meteor]

China would be sick

No fucking clue though

Sam should connect Eurasia

[tepid pendant]

Meh, I don't think its worth bringing back Reedus or anyone else for a third game or even possibly a DLC

Especially for a DLC tbh

If DLC was ever to exist, it probably could set off a new cast.

[alpine orchid]

I think the 0, +, - is a positive change

[halcyon meteor]

Yeah I’m being sarcastic, I hate when games die ungracefully

[halcyon meteor]

Good to hear! I wasn’t sure.

[echo ridge]

This is why game brightness is being removed

Stop caring about it

And use the exposure slider

[tepid pendant]

So leave it at 203

Got it.

[halcyon meteor]

Correct

[tepid pendant]

Heard that the default settings for Death Stranding are pretty much the best, so I won't bother playing around with anything there.

[alpine orchid]

would exposure multiply similarly to the old game brightness?

[halcyon meteor]

Correct

[echo ridge]

Exposure and game brightness is the same thing

[alpine orchid]

ie if you had a night preset at say 100 nits game brightness, you do 100/203 = 49% to get the same result?

[echo ridge]

Basically yes

[halcyon meteor]

Hmmm probably not far off?

Bigger difference would probably just be the new tone mapper

But exposure is a useful slider now

[tepid pendant]

Also for Lilium's HDR analysis, for someone who doesn't understand the graph, is there any like external sources I can read up on to understand the tool that doesn't throw a ton of gibberish explanations at you?

It feels like the same challenges of learning about linux tbh.

[alpine orchid]

which graph don't you understand? the brightness one?

[tepid pendant]

The HDR analysis overall.

[halcyon meteor]

Left to right on the graph is your screen from the left to right

[alpine orchid]

yup and it's just showing brightness in nits

[halcyon meteor]

Yeah

[alpine orchid]

if there's a big peak on the left side and the rest is dim then that means there's a bright object on the left side of the screen

[tepid pendant]

Interesting

[halcyon meteor]

Ya

And if there’s nothing along the bottom of the graph that means nothing is black there

Imagine for every column of pixels on your screen it’s putting a point on that graph of how bright that pixel is

Into the corresponding column of the graph

[tepid pendant]

Gotcha

[halcyon meteor]

Yap over but the most obvious thing is your UI

It’s gonna be a bunch of horizontal lines for all the white

[lunar birch]

oh tysm

[halcyon meteor]

Pls tell me it works for you too

[gloomy prairie]

haven't updated yet but the new patch looks insanely good

[rustic oriole]

how can i help u guys get those shaders

[lunar birch]

it does

[halcyon meteor]

the ui ones? install the devkit and dump the ones that make those elements disappear

[rustic oriole]

yah

[rustic oriole]

hm do I have to find out which shader it is one by one basically

[halcyon meteor]

yeah but they're gonna all be at the bottom so it's not too hard

tho i think there's an issue with the current devkit that it can't be loaded alongside a mod so you'd have to temporarily disable it

[rustic oriole]

ohh I see hm okay I ll give it a try later

[lunar birch]

not really sure if blowout do anything. or maybe im looking at the wrong places

[halcyon meteor]

it's just a relatively weak effect that would only show if you were looking at something bright + saturated

[quiet thorn]

I remember there were some issues in the past with DLSS quality and anisotropic filtering, is there any way to fix those still with the new update or they are not needed anymore?

[ancient jungle]

u can swap dlss file, overwrite dlss settings, force AF via external hooks
and u can also manual replace the dlss files

[echo ridge]

You dont

@halcyon meteor these shaders get decomp issues that will kill the entire effect

I left them untouched for a reason

[rustic oriole]

ohh ic alr

rip

[halcyon meteor]

good to know, thank you

[tepid pendant]

@halcyon meteor finished chapter 11, the whole reveal with Amelie

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

For the first time I had to lower the game difficulty lmao

I couldn't get past the Clifford part otherwise.

Having so much open space made it look easier, but having the corners and walls in WW1 and WW2 maps made it much easier to avoid getting shot at and quickly hiding to eat the bugs in case you get low.

Might be able to finish chapter 12 as well today if I'm not lazy enough

[halcyon meteor]

Uhhhhhhhh wondering if I remember what you mean on this one

I don’t wanna ask but I think I remember which it was

[tepid pendant]

The first 2 encounters with Clifford happens in uh

Maps with more walls and corners to hide behind and such

[halcyon meteor]

True

You mean the trench one and then the jungle

[tepid pendant]

@halcyon meteor correct me if I'm wrong

But RenoDX sometimes fixes oversaturation I assume as well?

At least I think that's the term

And I think that's what I am currently seeing in a cutscene in Death Stranding

[tepid pendant]

Nvm lmao

Sending it directly from Steam screenshots doesn't look good

But it still shows what I meant I think.

[rustic oriole]

Spoiler da img broski

[tepid pendant]

No reason to

Even if you started playing the game, you wouldn't understand what is happening here till you got to this part of the game.

Beauty of Kojima.

And it doesn't exactly spoil anything either lmao

[ancient jungle]

What even is this game

[tepid pendant]

Death Stranding

[ancient jungle]

So ur using renodx addon from wuwa in death stranding?

[tepid pendant]

No

I'm just talking to wuwano about it here

[ancient jungle]

Ah ok
What happens if u actually do that i wonder

Will it even work?

[tepid pendant]

I'd assume it would work but not much would happen, maybe just distorted image?

Since wuwa has no native HDR, and this game does have native HDR.

I could try, but at the same time, I cba lmao.

[strange gulch]

idk what to do with my wuwa settings anymore, i have a 5090, 64gbs ddr5, ryzen 9 9950x3d, playing in 1440p and the game is so choppy its actually painful in quite a few areas from ragunna and onwards, anyone get the same thing?

[halcyon meteor]

It would apply certain global settings but not much else bc the real work happens in specific game shaders

[halcyon meteor]

Have you tried a total shader comp wipeout? I’ve got a similar system and while I wouldn’t say it’s painful, the beginning of my sessions can be stuttery

I feel the game doesn’t handle loading resources very well, and something def seems wrong with its shader compilation

[halcyon meteor]

Yeah some AddOns do gamut compression, like the wuwa one

[strange gulch]

interstingly ive just been speaking to someone in wuwa server and they have suggested i roll back to 591.74 nvidia game driver

[halcyon meteor]

Could be, either way I don’t think there’s a perfect solution

[strange gulch]

apparently 595 and 596 are completely broken

[halcyon meteor]

Some of my sessions are better than others too

So weird

[halcyon meteor]

Sounds like modern drivers

[strange gulch]

same same

i do have to initial loading stuff too and it clears up in some areas, but some other like from ragunna and lahoi roi it is horrible

[halcyon meteor]

Kinda insane what top hardware doesn’t get you nowadays lmao

[strange gulch]

i have also been told to use display driver uninstaller to properly wipe of 595 596 driver slop before installing 591 again😭

[halcyon meteor]

You can do that with the nvidia app now

[strange gulch]

agreed but tbf in lots of other games i actually have some really good peformance now

so strange

[tepid pendant]

Does mine in images look correct compared to native?

Bad screenshots, but I cba to set up an actual button and stuff for normal HDR screenshots lmao

[halcyon meteor]

Right right, same I just mean seems like everything stutters or does something at least something weird nowadays regardless of hardware

[halcyon meteor]

If they’re not hdr screenshots there’s gonna be too much different to tell unfortunately

[strange gulch]

oh yeah 100% its unavoidable really... :( but thats the world of modern optimisation i guess

[tepid pendant]

I'm mostly questioning the uh difference between the brightness and saturation and stuff like that.

Native seems to be brighter and somewhat oversturated I guess?

RenoDX seems to tone down those elements

Native seems to look slightly washed out as well, but RenoDX makes it look less washed out

[halcyon meteor]

Bottom’s highlights are definitely more saturated

[tepid pendant]

The differences in the screenshots are noticeable, but they're just low quality

Yeah that's with preset off

[halcyon meteor]

Remember you’ve got that graph now too if you wanted a better A/B test

[tepid pendant]

Yeah, I gotta check out the graph in some areas.

Also I'm almost done with the story

Such an amazing payoff

[halcyon meteor]

There’s also a site called imgsplit or something

[halcyon meteor]

Dude you haven’t seen the literal movie at the end yet

[tepid pendant]

I think I'm watching it right now?

[halcyon meteor]

Have you?

Yeah it’s like over an hour long of cutscenes

[tepid pendant]

I'm watching a decently long cutscene with Mads Mikkelsen.

[tepid pendant]

Oh, I was not prepared for that

Man, I feel bad for Clifford.

He had it the worst, that's for sure.

[verbal vault]

I did Fantasies of the thousand gateways today and encountered a strange bug. I'd head to a next level and my gpu usage would drop to 5% and I'd get 2 fps until it randomly corrected itself. Anyone else encountered that? Never happened until I installed Reshade so idk if that could be causing it

[vagrant yew]

I didn’t find game brightness slider after update, is it normal?

[rigid yoke]

dropped that slider because it's insignificant wuwano said

could use exposure alternatively

[ancient jungle]

gotta use dlssg
about same hardware on 4k i need x3 mfg in the school to reach 120 target fps
though i did some tweaking in engine.ini to make the game more demanding

btw only presetA works with reno

[tepid pendant]

@halcyon meteor I finished the game

The ending was

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

Finding out who Sam actually is in the way that it was done, the small bits we see finally connect into a fully coherent story was so well done.

And he's finally free

[strange gulch]

dont worry im not running reno but i should swap the dlss model to g?

[ancient jungle]

this is my settings on 4k
dlaa preset K(iirc) + dlssg preset A
rebar enable
AF force x16
engine tweaks that increases draw distance/details/RT shadows light/better RT reflections
reflex + boost
reshade lilium rcas effect

with this i need
x0 mfg in instanced places
mostly x2 mfg in 2.0 regions
mostly x3 mfg in 3.0 regions

target fps: 120

[echo ridge]

Thafs what it does buddy

Thats why we have reno dicks for native hdr games

Bad native implementation

Overcooked colors

[tepid pendant]

It did seem a tad bit too much

Both color wise and brightness wise on certain things.

Kind of see why people dislike that though, being used to oversaturation is quite common when I see people showing off their OLED monitors

The popular honey image as wallpaper with black background lmao

It looks oversaturated as hell.

[sour sorrel]

Fyi WuWa configs were updated a few days ago so finally frame gen can be kept on in menus again - dlssg fix wont crash that much: https://github.com/AlteriaX/WuWa-Configs

[echo ridge]

Don't know what ur talking about bud

Streamline retain resources when off does nothing (and has been in the config since disco died)

The game still destroy resources if you actually read the logs

[ancient jungle]

i don't think it was in there
unless u don't mean the github link

[echo ridge]

GitHub config

[ancient jungle]

#1411110125732892807 message this one?

[strange gulch]

Sweet thank you dude gonma give it all a try when I’m home

[sour sorrel]

I’ve just checked it and you’re right, seems I had my hopes up too much when I saw that in the .ini

[ancient jungle]

it definitely wasn't in there before though

so still does nothing?

[tepid pendant]

there's some sort of new instructions as to how the .ini file should be ran

if its there, it should work.

[ancient jungle]

ya seems like without steam i need to run game via that bat file

though i deleted the original engine.ini
and ran the game
it still created the engine.ini in the same WindowsNoEditor folder

ig the bat file is redirecting it to the instructed location?

[tepid pendant]

ask Brandy

even for Steam version, it seems like it isn't plug and play anymore.

[ancient jungle]

im worried about the culling settings
one thing is its probably gonna improve a lot of fps
but another thing is objects might not render correctly

[tepid pendant]

there's a good solution for that

quit wuwa

return when these chinese devs learn how to optimize their game without the graphics starting to look like its a game from 1970's

https://tenor.com/view/galaxian-video-game-arcade-midway-games-80s-gif-16902004

I'm still mad about what happened to Blue Protocol

the game during CBT's seemed fun, looked amazing, something during development happened that I didn't bother digging up, apparently the whole development team changed and stuff like that, then one day I saw the game on mobile, checked it out, its a night and day difference.

the game looks like shit, runs like shit.

the best part, not only is it gachaslop now, but you gacha for costumes

good looking costumes are locked behind gacha system that's fully paid.

so you need to actually spend money to gamble for a costume you might not even get.

[ancient jungle]

start "" "Client-Win64-Shipping.exe" -SkipSplash -EngineIni=Engine.ini
ya ok so its just this line
ig i can now just put it anywhere as long as i use absolute path

ig the intention is so that we don't need to worry about the system stuff the game generates anymore

[tepid pendant]

from my understanding, it tricks the game somehow into skipping whatever checks for UE settings?

not sure, nor do I care enough.

I've got better things to play atm

[ancient jungle]

nah
it redirects EngineIni reading it to a new location thats it

[tepid pendant]

so basically

tricks it into not applying checks?

sounds like water is wet kind of thing

[ancient jungle]

no it still has to check the settings but its checking the new file not in the original location

[tepid pendant]

I get that, but it still sounds just like water is wet lmao.

[ancient jungle]

ya i mean u don't really need to use this as long as u know how to edit the original engine.ini

[echo ridge]

it was in there before

[ancient jungle]

ah ok ya it was in previous versions but got moved to another file

hmm after new game update seems like can't use SK to swap dlssg file

[ancient jungle]

nvm was being stupid somehow the dynamic settings got reset to off after update

[halcyon meteor]

Helllll yeah I gotta play ds2 soon

[halcyon meteor]

Yes, they were redundant

[halcyon meteor]

I get frequent stutters but not that

[halcyon meteor]

Do you use that config, I previously did but didn’t know what was supposed to be better. Though I did take the vignette and CA disabling from it

[tepid pendant]

I just finished downloading DS2, now downloading Black Myth Wukong.

Will start DS2 tomorrow

Properly from the start with fully set up settings, optiscaler and RenoDX.

Actually, I think the game natively has FSR 3.1, might not even need Optiscaler, but just in case will still get it there.