[SEE NEW THREAD]

[wet crane]

it does look good most of the time

[echo ridge]

But when the grass is not green

You either go vanilla+ and have correct saturation + undersaturated stuff

[wet crane]

colors kinda match

[echo ridge]

Or hdr look and correct saturation + oversaturated

[wet crane]

like 99%

[echo ridge]

Ya like on some surfaces

I tuned hdr look based on jinzhous grass

[wet crane]

browns are desaturated still

[echo ridge]

So it should match that

[echo ridge]

Yea the browns will be weak spot

Septimont

Or carte inverted tower

Lots of brown

U need that sat

Daswhy u need high sat

[wet crane]

or 0% saturation correction

but that has other issues

which are worse

than desaturated textures

[echo ridge]

ya

[wet crane]

so yea you can either increase the saturation a little to fix the grass/browns, the downside is the increased character/vfx saturation or you can keep the saturation at 55 but then browns and greens are going to be desaturated compared to SDR

a little extra saturation is not the end of the world so yea 57-60 saturation is fine with 100 saturation correction

50 saturation correction with 57 saturation is usable too, but cian is shifting to light blue with this preset

[sturdy cloak]

Okay I'm gonna have to make 1 preset for each and go back and forth. The doubt is killing me 🥲

[wet crane]

it's easy to spot the difference if you have shorekeeper

just focus on her dress

can you spot the difference?

the veil is bluer with 50 saturation correction

it's not that drastic tho

[sturdy cloak]

I can't see the star-like spots in the second picture

[wet crane]

if you can't notice it then just use Saturation Correction 50 + Saturation 57 imo

[sturdy cloak]

No I mean the little white spots

They disappeared in second shot

[wet crane]

that's just an effect

[sturdy cloak]

Although that looks like the closest match to me as of right now. I like the 50/57

[wet crane]

the highlight on the veil is cyanish colored on the left picture

and it's just blue on the right picture

[wet crane]

yea I will keep playing with this too

I need to test more characters and stuff

[sturdy cloak]

The left one is 50 correction one ?

[wet crane]

yes

no

the left one is 100 😄

[sturdy cloak]

How right...

[wet crane]

the difference is subtle

[sturdy cloak]

Well in this particular case, both look good to me. But in other spots I can definitely see that 50 correction retains sdr hues better. Some blue/silvery hues, or even some yellow/orange hues (like during sunset) are better transcribed on grass and rocks. Whereas they almost disappear with 100 correction.

[wet crane]

yea 50 s.correction is not that bad

I mean 0 s.correction is sdr colors

but it can look very wrong

50 is a compromise

0/50/100

0 looks 100% wrong and "colorless"

100 is the best, but 50 is not that bad either

[sturdy cloak]

Yea I think it's going to be a winner for me. That was actually my last annoyance with previous preset. It was insanely close in some spots, but some others lost a lot of SDR's flavor tinting. The more I look at it the more I like it.

[sturdy cloak]

I see what you mean, but grass and rocks just look to good on 50 to pass.

[wet crane]

yea it looks okay on 50

[sturdy cloak]

Rhaaa.... but skin glows on sunsets...please kill me...

[wet crane]

highlight v3 says hi

I use highlights v1 in my personal preset

but it's fine tuned to my display

it's not "universal"

[sturdy cloak]

This a bit disheartening... but at the same time it seems to only happen in very specific conditions so... I might just be nitpicking there.

[tepid pendant]

Making it universal is impossible

[wet crane]

yea it's not that big of an issue tbh

[sturdy cloak]

He. Nitpicking. Funny.😏

[wet crane]

v3 matches SDR otherwise

[tepid pendant]

Are you focused on making SDR only presets?

[sturdy cloak]

You're right.

[wet crane]

no I'm focused on making an HDR preset that matches SDR

[tepid pendant]

Oh

[wet crane]

colors/midtones/shadows

[tepid pendant]

that's an interesting approach

[wet crane]

it's the standard approach

HDR should not change colors except highlight colors that are bright

[sturdy cloak]

Nit-picking. Please laugh .

[wet crane]

and ofc shadows/midtones should be untouched too

[sturdy cloak]

Thank you😭 .

[wet crane]

my personal preset in direct sunlight

where did the skin glow at which location?

@sturdy cloak

and time

[sturdy cloak]

Near tacet field : stagnant run. Right at sunset.

Left most of the map

[sturdy cloak]

Almost no glow. Impressive.

[wet crane]

yea the new region is different

different "sun" too

but lower bloom if it's glowing too much

[sturdy cloak]

Honestly, it was quite brief anyway. Skin glows for like 10 seconds during sunset. I'm a big boy. I can take it. Probably.

[sturdy cloak]

By the way, completely different subject, but I'm like 85% sure UI gamma correction touches more than just UI. I suspect some post processing and maybe even transparency stuff gets impacted, and it kind messes the percieved balance for exposure. It's a shame because actual UI and 2d art look very convincing with gamma 2.4. I don't know if anything can be done about that apart from getting it back down to 2.2

[frozen token]

Context is im on a 4k OLED with in the True black 400 mode with about 465 nit peak

I had my highlight saturation at 45 before this last update. cant remember why

[rustic oriole]

Could you send me ass of the current present ur testing

[frozen token]

Why is wuwa using 20 gigs of ram

I have 32 gigs

[bleak light]

let it uses it

unused ram is wasted ram

it doesnt necessarily means the game needs 20gb ram

[frozen token]

Im just concerned because Cyberpunk uses half that

[bleak light]

or memory leak 💀

[wet crane]

But blues are hue shifting quite extremely

left is 50 saturation correction right is 100

and the bloom is ugh horrible

even at 50

80 saturation correction with 58 saturation is probably better

these music videos...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_kJclPEjKM

the VA can't sing at all

like this is bad even by gacha slop standards

[wet crane]

@sturdy cloak 80 saturation correction with 58 saturation looks better imo

more balanced

[wet crane]

I just retested this, and yea turning it on lifts black levels a little

and midtones, it's similar to rising exposure

@sturdy cloak This preset matches SDR with UI gamma correction turned off:

[sturdy cloak]

Ho yes ? So i can just set UI Gama at 2.4, and the impact it as on the overall image will be compensated for with this ?

[wet crane]

yup

I had to witch to shadows v3 to fine tune the shadows but its fine

[sturdy cloak]

Testing it right now then. It had to be a pain. Thank you so much !

[wet crane]

You're welcome! 🙂

SDR with UI gamma correction off / "New" preset with UI gamma correction 2.4

[sturdy cloak]

Compensation works very well. I even find this preset bring a tad more contrast to the image without much trade of. I might slightly prefer a combination of 70 correction and 58 saturation on a personal note though compared to 80/57.

[wet crane]

yea there is no "correct" saturation correction and saturation combination, or well saturation correction 100 is technically correct 😅

[sturdy cloak]

Yes this decision is definitely "compromise driven" so to speak. But I still think we're getting closer to the "ideal" compromise overall.

[wet crane]

the difference between the "compensated" and the old preset is barely noticeable, but if you switch back and forth in-game then yea, the black levels are "better" with the new preset

[sturdy cloak]

Yea, but it's slight enough not to crush I think. So that's a win in my book.

[wet crane]

nah it's not crushing

[sturdy cloak]

Or really affect midtones

[wet crane]

not even spiwar's preset is crushing

[sturdy cloak]

Yes. But it does affect midtones a bit more on a case by case basis.

[wet crane]

oh yes ofc

that preset uses 50% grading strength

that's not comparable to SDR

I mean vanilla SDR

I will keep playing/testing using this preset

and if it's good at all my test locations then this is going to be the final preset, for now 😄

[wet crane]

@sturdy cloak this is what I use btw, if you are intereseted:

I tames VFX highlights

nothing is overly bright and skin is 100% SDR brightness

it's basically an 1:1 preset

it used to be a lot more complicated but I remade it with UI gamma correction compensation

complicated = custom game brightness/exposure value

[wet crane]

but it's not nowhere near as punchy as the other preset, but I'm a purist 😅

[wet crane]

Highlights are birght enough imo

[sturdy cloak]

Let me try it out.

I feel like this is closer in the day but maybe the previous one seems closer at night. God this is so hard to choose😭 ...

It looks very good though. I'm gonna play with it and see if anything stands out to me. At the very least it doesn't stands out as undersaturated to me anymore.

[wet crane]

it's just an alternative approach I dislike overly bright highlights

there is not much highlight contrast with the other preset on my aging C1 haha

if you got a display that can get really bright, 2000-3000 nits, then increasing the highlight brightness makes sense

but the biggest problem is Kuro and the 10k nits bright VFXs lol

we are getting flying back in 3.1 btw 😄

I like the bike but flying is better

[sturdy cloak]

My monitor does 1150 nits

[wet crane]

that's not bad at all

[sturdy cloak]

I like the idea of varying my vehicles.

[wet crane]

yea me too

and well we are getting a mech suit

which can fly

its cool

[sturdy cloak]

You're messing with me.

[wet crane]

nah it's true

it's not going to be limited to Aemeath

[sturdy cloak]

There are images of that going around ?

[wet crane]

just leaks from china and a new Aemeath gameplay video

I really hope that it's true

[sturdy cloak]

Going back and forth between different locomotion styles could make for epic traversal if it's true.

[wet crane]

yea

[sturdy cloak]

By the way skin really is noticeably better in your last preset.

[wet crane]

that idle animation with the mech is cute 😄

[wet crane]

yeah haha it should match SDR under all lighting conditions

[sturdy cloak]

Thay's funny😄

Kuro does be the animation king a lot of the time to be honest.

[wet crane]

the way she can fly with the mech is really cool

it's super fast too

[sturdy cloak]

I'm not gonna look for it. I prefer to be surprised when it comes out.

[wet crane]

at the end of the video I just posted

haha

[sturdy cloak]

Well I didn't see the end yet and now I'm not gonna😅

[wet crane]

I will probably burn through all my reserves to get her and her weapon

especially if I don't win the 50/50

I really hope that Luuk's gameplay is disappointing

😄

[sturdy cloak]

I'am torn... and as its often the case, I'm kind of going conter current, but I've been hyped by luuk ever since drip marketing...

In the same way I was absolutely mind blown by Quiyan, I like my cool blade masters.

I don't mind gooning, but its definitely a side hustle for me. First and foremost, there's the rule of cool, not the rule of cute.

[sturdy cloak]

I fear that's a fool's hope... if what I heard is true, specialist of aerial CQC sounds very interesting to me !

[wet crane]

yup I agree

I just really dislike's Luuk's smug face I can't help it haha

I liked Quiyan though

but I wanted Galbrena more

I really dislike Aemeath's outfit too btw

[wet crane]

@sturdy cloak I refined my other preset:

skin is a little better now

[sturdy cloak]

I'm not a fan either, but no dougt she goes hard in the animation department. Plus, Galbrena is cool and all, but since I don't have Changli, I wouldn't mind a more interesting fusion dps to play gameplay wise. Galbrena is not very interesting...

[wet crane]

Galbrena is a powerhouse and she is very cool looking in her "devil trigger" state, but yea she is kinda boring to play

but her dodge cancel is really good

the coolest character is still Xiangli Yao imo, but I love sci-fi themed characters

[sturdy cloak]

I should look into it then. I've just begun dipping my toes in quick swap/ advanced tech with Cartethia and aero rover. A lot of fun. If there are ways to make Galbrena more interesting and optimise her damage, I should definitely look into it.

[wet crane]

oh yes Galbrena is very versatile

[sturdy cloak]

I'am very much hoping for a rerun as well.

[wet crane]

dodging does not end her combo chain

[sturdy cloak]

Is there guides on youtube somewhere ?

[wet crane]

https://youtu.be/a_YCnm_I4TA?si=nZZbIO9ANuziD2O8 I like this guy's guides

[sturdy cloak]

Cool. This might just revive my flame. For her.....

I will be leaving now. So much shame in this pun.

Do you do quick swap by the way ? I heard Xiangli and Changli make for a mean quick swap pair. Although I guess Xiangli just got a very nice buff in overcarry with Lynae and Mornye.

Do you have info on 3.1 reruns perhaps ?

You seem well informed.

[wet crane]

I do

I love quick swapping

[wet crane]

nope, the current beta is "well protected" we have no idea

maybe next week

the best quick swap team is still Changli+Carlotta imo

Lynae and Mornye are anti-quickswap tho

which is sad

[sturdy cloak]

Maybe. But you can't beat electro guantlet boy in the cool departement. I want him so bad...

[wet crane]

yea haha Xiangli Yao + Lynea + Mornye is a erally good team

even Xiangli Yao + Yinlin

we got Xiangli Yao once for free, then you could get him during the anniversary

and that's it I think

[sturdy cloak]

I don't doubt it but I'm even more intereste in Xiangli + Changli. Their quick swap look very cool.

[verbal schooner]

oh nvm its gone

[wet crane]

stepleaker is gone too

[wet crane]

yea it's a very cool pair too

but Changli is very cool in general 😄

[sturdy cloak]

My patience will prevail eventually. Xiangli, Changli and Jiyan are at the top of my wanted list.

[wet crane]

I wanted to get Jiyan too, but I lost the 50/50

[sturdy cloak]

Word.

[wet crane]

and I don't think that I'm going to get him

[sturdy cloak]

Shame...

[wet crane]

I wanted to get Jinhsi too

but her kit is very boring

[sturdy cloak]

Why not ? Isn't he very good in Wiwa currently ?

[wet crane]

He is great but nothing special

a solid character

but you can't compare his animations to someone like Augusta

[sturdy cloak]

Well I can't argue there... But he definitely has quick swap potential that she doesn't have.

[wet crane]

well true

[sturdy cloak]

But even then augusta is still cool to play.

[wet crane]

the top DPS characters for Wiwa are Phrolova (overpowered), Augusta then Jiyan, Zani and Galbrena

so yea Jiyan is still very good

not the best for the tower but still good

[sturdy cloak]

I got phrolova on last rerun. My phrolova team is currently absolutly disgusting.

[wet crane]

disgustingly good or bad ? 😄

[sturdy cloak]

Yes. But most of all he looks cool.

Ho my god good.

[wet crane]

oh yea she is a monster haha

I use her to clear the daily echo stuff too she is way too op

her team alone is enough to get 5500 points in wiwa's last challenge

[sturdy cloak]

I actually don't do that. It goes too fast and then I'm frustrated.

[sturdy cloak]

I didn't even know such a score was even possible 😅 ...

[wet crane]

you need 5500 for SSS

I usually get 7000-9000 lol

it depends on the tokens

[sturdy cloak]

Ho, I thought you meant just her team lol😂

Hazard as it I actually have a lot of sequence nods in this team. Phrolova is s2. Qiuyan is s3 and Cantarella s1. They go hard.

Do you want to know how much points I get In double pawn with this team ?

[sturdy cloak]

"Well protected" indeed then !

[sturdy cloak]

Didn't this preset use 80 correction ?

[wet crane]

it's not final, but I will probably use 100 in the final preset, because it's "correct"

just change it to something you like

[sturdy cloak]

So are you favoring v3 or v1 more personaly ?

[wet crane]

v1

probably

I can't get v3 to look the way I want it to look

lowering highlight brightness messes up the midtones

the v1 preset looks fine to me and the v3 preset is good for people who want brighter highlights

both are SDR like

[sturdy cloak]

Your v1 seems easier to balance for skin and grass saturation anyway.

[wet crane]

yes v1 highlights are more balanced

but if you want brighter highlights then you have to switch to v3 unfortunately

[sturdy cloak]

By the way🤭 ?

[sturdy cloak]

Why ?

[wet crane]

in double pawn?

[wet crane]

it rises midtones too much

I mean you can work around that by adjusting the game brightness/paperwhite

but it's not ideal

[sturdy cloak]

Yes.

[wet crane]

ah the new game mode

how much?

[sturdy cloak]

Over 13 thousands.

[wet crane]

I got 37k then I called it a day

[sturdy cloak]

Disgusting.

[wet crane]

oh with phrolova only?

[sturdy cloak]

Yes

😂

[wet crane]

you need the blind guy for that

I got 10k I think

[sturdy cloak]

Very much so. But I originally got the blind guy for main dps so...

[wet crane]

S0?

[sturdy cloak]

No. I got s3

[wet crane]

ah lol

[sturdy cloak]

I am weak

[wet crane]

I don't like spending resources on resonance chains

all my characters are S0 haha

[sturdy cloak]

That said I had a lot saved. I didn't really whal for it.

[sturdy cloak]

I understand. But I really wanted to main dps.

[wet crane]

yea ofc

he is cool

[sturdy cloak]

As for Phrolova and cantarrella, I was really trying to get Buling S6.

[wet crane]

why lol?

[sturdy cloak]

50% skill damage.

[wet crane]

she is good but you will get multiple copies of her even if you don't want it xD

mine is S2 so far

I use her with Carlotta

[sturdy cloak]

I wanted to free Shorekeeper from carlotta team

Me too

Typo

[wet crane]

so your phrolova/cantarella is S2-3 too?

[sturdy cloak]

Phrolova S2. Cantarella S1

[wet crane]

it's not that hard to get 12k points then haha

[sturdy cloak]

Yes, hence the disgusting part.

I feel dirty

[wet crane]

yea thats the other reason why I don't like resonance chains

it makes the game trivial

It's cool that you are strong but it gets boring after a while

but thats just me

btw there are two new codes:
solarissupercup
fasterhigherstronger

[sturdy cloak]

Let's just say the exception confirms the rule. For general content this is terrible. In end game it remains enjoyable. The Phrolova/Qiuyan/Cantarella team is too phrenetic to get boring if mobs have enough hp.

[sturdy cloak]

Thx !

[echo ridge]

thanks

[echo ridge]

Some char needs resonance chain to be fun

Qiuyuan without s1 you're looking to get combo cucked

Same with camellya

[wet crane]

camellya is perfectly fine at s0 she carried me through early 2.x lol

[wet crane]

if a character needs resonance chain to be fun then I'm skipping that char xD

but if you really like a char and you rarely pull then yea

then it makes sense to get them to S3 or even S6

[echo ridge]

She carrying doesnt mean shes fun to play

Talking about the char feel

Getting interrupted by random shit feels like ass

Its the same with genshin back when zhongli released

His shield is thick but you get interrupted by random shit before you can ever get your shield up

[wet crane]

skill issue

I know that people like the press a button to win playstyle. but you can dodge mid spin

I really don't like Camellya tho, design/personality wise, I pulled her because I needed a meta dps

[echo ridge]

You can dodge mid spin but it resets your combo chain

you can have interrupts but not like that

They knew it was ass design but its intentional since theh clearly can not do it with galbrena

[wet crane]

but all you do is filling up the resonance bar

to nuke

[echo ridge]

Same for qiuyuan

Accidentally used your forte?

and got interrupted

Oh shit looks kike ur useless now

[echo ridge]

Yes but the wind up for the spin2win

Is extremely long

After you dodge

[wet crane]

I still think that if you need a sequence for a character to be good then that character is not good

or not that good

[echo ridge]

Im not talking about pure numbers here

Im taliing about play feelings

[wet crane]

idk It was fine imo

[wet crane]

if you need sequences for a character to feel good then that character is not that good

😄

[echo ridge]

Ya then camellya isnt good

[wet crane]

fair enough

I don’t like her lol

[echo ridge]

Its different from SK where her S1 is also a QOL improvement but her base form isnt ass to play

[wet crane]

yea SK is perfectly fine at S0

Mornye S1 is nice but it’s not really mandatory, except if you really want to use her with old teams

that 15% overall damage increase is not that great

and you can skip 2 basic attacks with S1 which is nothing exciting

you can skip 0.5 sec

[hidden nebula]

hey everyone, im running renodx with optiscaler on wwmi's dx11 launcher. Only game brightness and ui brightness seems to be working properly.

These are the errors in the logs constantly appearing
01:41:39:505 [11816] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000006722f8b8)
01:41:39:505 [11816] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000006722fef8)

[formal spoke]

Seele Leaks just posted a screenshot from a 3.1 Beta Build that includes an HDR toggle, a peak brightness slider and a paper white slider.
Looks like we are finally getting native HDR

[dapper flare]

hopefully its not actual ass like the vast majority of dev implemented HDR

[frosty gulch]

Oh damn

[frozen token]

🙏

[sturdy cloak]

It could at least allow us to use the latest version of fg with reno. That would be nice.

[dapper flare]

yeah

ive been making do with DLSS3 framegen and 4.5 scaling, but 9 times out of 10 I just shut it off because of performance hit

100fps framegen versus 80fps native isnt really worth it imo

[wet crane]

oh ok the outfit makes sense now I guess

https://youtu.be/TnXzZxKmGYk?si=Cdj3PAAHKyZd4y2C

they really doubled the marketing budget for 3.0 lol

it's a really cool video tho 😄

[echo ridge]

Use either dlssfix for fsr3fg

Or lsfg whatever

[echo ridge]

Will be surprising if its more than containerslop

[wet crane]

oh we have Luuk gameplay

it's not bad but I'm not hyped

I can skip him

[wet crane]

I'm like 99% convinced that Luuk is actually evil

Rover's school uniform is soo ugh btw

why

Luuk's team is Lynae and Mornye

and they do insane DMG together

Luuk is the DPS

third best team in the game, well in the current beta

the Aemeath team is the new best, as expected

her BiS team is also Lynae and Mornye tho 😩

Chisa is not that great with her

which is lame

but Luuk is the first quickswap full DPS male character since Calculator

which is really nice

[formal spoke]

Glad to hear this because I skipped Lupa and Brant

But its kind of weird that they are going to release 2 Main DPS in one patch

Btw any Arknights Whenfield enjoyers here?

[wet crane]

yea, it's like they want you to choose between the two

if this is true then that's really really good

you can get 20+ modifiers every patch

[sturdy cloak]

God I hope this is real. That would make echo building so much more efficient. I want it yesterday please.

[formal spoke]

That would be insane. I hope its real

But the value of the substat will probably stay RNG. So you still have some incentive to spent your echo resources

[wet crane]

yes but you can buy modifiers for real money

aka whales can create perfect echo sets really fast

[dapper flare]

dlssfix launch gacha fails for me

unless there's anything after installing, renaming, then adding the stuff into the reshade config

it never worked for me

[sour sorrel]

It doesn’t work with optiscaler and you can’t force swap dlss (through nvidia app or nvidia inspector). You can manually swap the dlss file tho

[dapper flare]

don't use optiscaler and I disabled all DLSS forcing, and used base game DLSS

[sour sorrel]

Do you use the renodx reshare version?

[dapper flare]

the RenoDX build in #📝welcome ?

yeah

[sour sorrel]

Yep

Weird

Can you show me your config paths?

[dapper flare]

ive also tried 6.6 because there's allegedly a 6.6 compatible version pinned but no luck there

i reverted everything

[sour sorrel]

Ye it didn’t work for me too

Also try deleting whole .exe folder and check file integrity through steam, do a fresh install

[dapper flare]

meh I run out of VRAM using framegen anyway

so game ends up running worse with it on versus off

[sour sorrel]

gpu?

[echo ridge]

get more vram

[dapper flare]

5070ti

unless using both dlss4 uses less VRAM than using dll override for dlss3 and dlss4.5

[grave tiger]

wtf

are you using specialk

[dapper flare]

no

[grave tiger]

thats not normal

[dapper flare]

i don't even have it installed after wiping windows

[dense adder]

Are there any issues with using this version over the latest snapshot on github? The snapshot still has the fade to black issue, but the file posted here fixed it for me, at least on the starting screen. (actually the color grading sliders don't seem to work for me with the old version, so never mind)

[formal spoke]

I dont use RenoDx for wuwa but the DLSS override from the Nvidia App or Profile Inspector works for me

[dapper flare]

transformer model causes flickering with framegen on + renodx

that's the problem, and why dlssfix is needed for it

[sour sorrel]

How does it use so much lol, mine uses ~14GB with 5120x1440p on ultra quality. Dlss set to ultra quality as well. Running 4x frame gen with no prob and getting around 170 fps

Try enabling ReBar in nvidia inspector

idk

[sour sorrel]

Oh? That's interesting. You're using "recommended" DLSS override setting in nv app right? I manually swapped dlss but using DLSS ultra quality I'm stuck with preset K (I think). I really want to use preset M cuz better quality and better tonemapping (which is weird actually but yeah)

[wet crane]

I don't use the Nvidia App, no living soul can force me to install that, but the profile inspector works fine

[dapper flare]

okay i've got it to launch for once

[sour sorrel]

I'm using it solely because nvidia settings panel is clunky

[dapper flare]

yeah nah even with DLSS4 across the board I'm still vram limited

[sour sorrel]

That's really weird

either there's smth wrong with my setup or yours

[dapper flare]

what are your game settings

[sour sorrel]

all maxed out

with rt

and dlss max quality

[dapper flare]

?????

okay then

because I'm running 4k max with dlss balanced

[sour sorrel]

try this

[sour sorrel]

i'm running 5120x1440p so 7 372 800 pixels, your 4k is 8,294,400 but i doubt it would make THAT much difference

[dapper flare]

okay i think that fixed it. now i'm pinging off CPU limits. 1st is on, 2nd is off

[sour sorrel]

still on dlss balanced?

[dapper flare]

yeah

okay it lowers normal framerate by like 5-10 but game feels a lot better in traversal now

[sour sorrel]

but still it seems off

give me a minute

[dapper flare]

well i'm running a 5900x lmfao

[sour sorrel]

im running 5800x man LOL

[dapper flare]

the game's always been cpu bottlenecked

okay the fuck

[sour sorrel]

LOL

gimme a sec

[dapper flare]

okay no gimmie a bit. let me turn off CCD2 again.

[sour sorrel]

Phone photo cuz reshade won’t capture RTSS. That’s with frame gen off:

Frame gen x4:

[dapper flare]

is that during standstill or traversal

[sour sorrel]

Standing still

But it’s not that different when traversing

Lemme make sure

[dapper flare]

because standing still I run fine and can max out display

albeit still not great

[sour sorrel]

160 fps avg

13-14 GB vram, driving around spacetrek observatory

Unless you’re trying to run it in the academy then give up lol

Im just not going into this unoptimized hell of a place

[dapper flare]

oh yeah i'm around the academy lmao

[sour sorrel]

Oh and undervolted gpu and cpu btw

[sour sorrel]

Bruh

[sour sorrel]

Well there’s your answer then

[sour sorrel]

Fg x4?

[raven parrot]

Guys what does Nvidia sharpening do in wuwa?

[sour sorrel]

For me, nothing

[dapper flare]

2x

also switched to dlssp

[sour sorrel]

110 fps too in this place

[raven parrot]

What is it spos to do?

[dapper flare]

okay so thats about regular then

neat

[sour sorrel]

Man

Im still on ultra quality lol

[dapper flare]

i mean i can switch back, i have plenty of headroom

[sour sorrel]

What is says, sharpen dlss output

It’s not working for me

[dapper flare]

quality

[sour sorrel]

Do ultra quality

Max everything out

And fg x4 to compare

190 fps 13 GB vram for me

[dapper flare]

4x ultra quality

[sour sorrel]

Seems right

So what was the problem actually

[dapper flare]

traversal runs like ass, mainly

[sour sorrel]

For me it’s not in the overworld, only in the academy

If being around academy was the problem then I’m dead

[dapper flare]

i mean its also because dual ccd chip

absolutely ruins frametimes

disabling CCD2 cleans it up a decent amount

[sour sorrel]

Idk what that even is tbh

[formal spoke]

No, I use these settings via the Nvidia App or Profile inspector. I also use Preset M

[sour sorrel]

This causes my game to crash, weird. Thanks for the info, I’ll tinker with it a bit

[formal spoke]

The override works fine via the Nvidia App. But you need the newest version of Nvidia Profile inspector if you want to use Preset M via the inspector

[dapper flare]

okay with 3x framegen i can consistently max out 120hz display

[sour sorrel]

Aim for minimum 50-60 fps w/o frame gen for it to make sense

[dapper flare]

ye I hover around 50-60 normally

in traversal its around 45

but thats just because this game's delightfully optimized

[sour sorrel]

Also, which reshade version do you use?

[formal spoke]

I also found out that you can get rid of most of the Filter/Postprocessing stuff if you switch to any custom Global Filter and set the intensity to 1 or somewhere between 0 and 1 on the slider. This way you dont get any color change of the filter you use but still get rid of the other post processing effects. (Screenshots are not in HDR. The first one is Global Filter set to about 1 intensity and the second one is the default global filter).
But I have to say that I really dont know all of the effects that this has. I just found that the default global filter looks a bit too washed out.

[formal spoke]

I dont use reshade for WuWa. Im too afraid of getting banned

Just suffering while using RTX HDR

[sour sorrel]

Ah, we were talking about dlssfix, which you need to have when using frame gen with renodx

[formal spoke]

(This could be complete nonesene but maybe someone finds it usefull to experiment with their settings)

[sour sorrel]

With it you can’t force presets

[formal spoke]

Oh Im so sorry. I completely missed that

[sour sorrel]

Oh that’s actually interesting

[formal spoke]

I should have read the whole conversation before replying

[sour sorrel]

All good bud

[wet crane]

weird, i'm not vram limited even with rebar enabled and I use a 16gb GPU

[formal spoke]

Btw the default filter and the custom Filter are both set to the same settings under 'advanced'. I use any of the custom Filters because the default one doesnt have the filter intensity slider

[wet crane]

is it HDR compatible?

someone tested it some time ago and the filters were not renodx compatible

[wet crane]

this kinda looks like bloom off

[formal spoke]

Im not sure, Im just using RTX HDR atm

[formal spoke]

Bloom doesnt seem to be effected but the grayscale value does. Setting any of the custom filters to grayscale 38 and intensity 1 looks very similar to the default Filter.

But there is also a slight change in color

(Filter intensity does not affect grayscale when set between 0 and 1)

So the default Filter/Tonemapping probably has some boosted grayscale value

[wet crane]

why lol

[formal spoke]

I love RenoDx and I use it in almost every other game I play but im too afraid of getting banned and losing my WuWa account 😭

[sour sorrel]

You’re gambling either way since it’s gacha so…

We ball 😎

[formal spoke]

True

[wet crane]

they are not banning anyone for using reshade

I would be very surprised

[formal spoke]

But arent they treating everything that is injected into the game as 'cheat' ?

[wet crane]

I don't think so

you have to actually cheat

[formal spoke]

Have there ever been any documented or known bans because of reshade (with addon support) at all in other gachas or games with similar anticheat?

[wet crane]

people have to report you to get banned

[wet crane]

games with strong anti cheat refuse to launch with reshade anyways

you cant inject it

[wet crane]

nope afaik

[formal spoke]

Because I have seen screenshots of some sort of popup that says something like 'We have detected a modified game version and your account is now flagged' that scared me for a long time. Do you still get it when using reshade+addons or is there some way to prevent that? (Maybe SK injection?)

[wet crane]

and they are not banning paying users for no reason

even if they can detect you using reshade it would be very stupid

[formal spoke]

Yes thats true

[wet crane]

yea dxgi.dll modifications trigger that message

[formal spoke]

Does this happen when installing reshade+ addon support normally?

[dapper flare]

i havent once seen that message

[wet crane]

if the reshade64.dll is renamed to dxgi.dll then yes

I don't use the installer

[formal spoke]

Then what is the recommended way to install it without triggering that message?

[wet crane]

just copy the dll next to the exe

open the reshade installer exe with 7zip

or something

to extract the reshade64.dll

[dapper flare]

idk I use the installer ¯_(ツ)_/¯

still havent seen the message

[formal spoke]

Oh ok thanks! I did not think about that

I might finally give this a try if the 3.1 HDR sucks

I cant take RTX HDR anymore

[dapper flare]

honestly id rather take windows autohdr over rtxhdr

rtxhdr overblows colors way too much

like the fuck is this radioactive grass in septimont

old ass screenshot, i'm not sure if it still does it

[formal spoke]

I recently compared windows autoHDR with RTX HDR in WuWa. I think the overall image looks less overcooked with AutoHDR but when I tested it the colors were far more overblown in AutoHDR. But that was probably caused by setting the peak brightness of windows autoHDR to the max 100% = 1000 nits.

After that I read that the peak brightness should be kept somewhere between 600-700 nits when using shitty inverse tonemapping

[formal spoke]

But yes, that does look really bad

[glad mauve]

Forcing AF

Don't do that

Or set grading to 0% in Reno

[dapper flare]

is that still a bug without reno?

[glad mauve]

Affects all 5000 series

Lackwell special sauce

Has nothing to do with reno

[dapper flare]

sick

thanks Nvidia

[wet crane]

I would use SK's HDR tbh

[echo ridge]

pussy

install reno NOW

[sturdy cloak]

Well, this is the renodx lair, and no one encontered any problems with it as far as I know. At the very least it's not been happening so far.

[glad mauve]

We HDR out here

if the game doesnt have actual HDR output... Dont bother even playing it. If you get banned, well thats your sign to drop the game

You wouldnt play a game thats locked to 720P in 2026. Why should HDR be any different

[frozen token]

Dont remind me how Devs like from soft are still locking their games to 60 fps They relesed armored core with 120 support but then nightrain didnt have it.

[lilac crescent]

@halcyon meteor @glad mauve i've updated the renodx page to have non-expiring invite links to the server instead of direct channels (since they get nuked every 2 weeks and/or requires to be on the discord already) you should update WUWA and XCOM2 links aswell, unless you're okay with that.

[glad mauve]

Didn't know that

I'll update then

[sturdy cloak]

Made a few small tweaks that I think help with preserving SDR hues. Please tell me what you think !

[formal spoke]

Fuck it, Im installing Reno

[formal spoke]

TRUE

RTX HDR SHALL BE NO MORE

[formal spoke]

Do I need to do something else? I copied reshade64.dll next to Client-Win64-Shipping.exe but it doesnt work

[sturdy cloak]

You mean the renodx dll right ?

Installed reshade with addon support ?

[formal spoke]

Yes I also copied that next to the game exe. But im trying to avoid using the Reshade Installer. MPaul said the anticheat is only triggered when the reshade64.dll is renamed to dxgi.dll and that he doesnt use the installer so I assumed that the installer does rename it that way.
I probably need to rename it to d3d12.dll for DX12 right?

[tepid pendant]

Not sure what's with the extra steps, but I just opened up reshade and directly selected wuwa to install reshade.

[formal spoke]

Could you please tell me the filename of your reshade .dll that is next to your game exe?

[sturdy cloak]

Is that so😅 . I went the classical route and never had any pb tbh.

[formal spoke]

Im probably overcomplicating this, im such a pussy lol

[tepid pendant]

it was dxgi.dll iirc, but I renamed it since I'm using optiscaler which also renames itself to dxgi

[formal spoke]

Thanks, so which filename are you using atm for the reshade .dll ?

[tepid pendant]

ReShade64

[sturdy cloak]

Hey @wet crane . I've been playing around with your V3 preset.
Made a few small tweaks that I think help with preserving SDR hues. Please tell me what you think !

[formal spoke]

Naming it d3d12.dll works

[tepid pendant]

tweaks after tweaks

[formal spoke]

I also tried ReShade64.dll but that doesnt work for me

[tepid pendant]

could be due to me using optiscaler

either way, I would just have opened reshade and installed through reshade

[formal spoke]

Yeah that probably would have worked without any problems lol

Oh my god the difference is insane. Fuck RTX HDR I love Reno 😭 🙏

Btw are there any settings that I need to change ingame for RenoDx?

[echo ridge]

Use presets

Hdr look or vanilla+

Good pre tuned values

U can adjust on top to your likng

[formal spoke]

Thanks, Im already using the updated Preset that I found here: #1411110125732892807 message

Looks amazing

I made some good looking presets when MH Wilds was released, so maybe I will try to make my own. But so far the default ones are both looking good

[lilac crescent]

fixed them

i don't think snapshot necessarely need a discord link next to them anyways

@barren garden @alpine kestrel my goats should autobuild their games

[wet crane]

I used hue correction 0 in the past, but shadows looked weird so I changed it to 50

but I will retest it

[alpine orchid]

heh, the auto bike got stuck

[frozen token]

Man I really hope they add a toggle for the spped lines on the bike I hate them

[sturdy cloak]

Weird wierd, or default sdr wierd ?

[wet crane]

Weird weird

but I retested it and it was fine

[raven parrot]

Y'all why does my cart look a bit weird when facing light source? (Had to take pic on phone due to HDR SC size too large lol)

ok found reason

was using nvidia color settings vs default in control panel

[sturdy cloak]

Good to know. Currently experimenting with 0 hue correction and 85 saturation correction. I think it does a good job restoring some sdr hues that get lost in translation without necesserily killing skintones. Even blues seem fine to me with those settings.

Unfortunately, also got back to 2.2 for UI. Even when compensated, 2.4 does something to the image that rubs me the wrong way, however slight. UI brightness most definitely impact the overall image also by the way. Comfirmed it with hdr analysis while UI was turned off.

[sturdy cloak]

Is that a super saiyan ?😱

[crystal thistle]

U good?

Looks nothing like it

[sturdy cloak]

You lack imagination

[sturdy cloak]

Everything that glows is a super saiyan.

[rigid yoke]

y'all, do you know you can adjust the in-game sharpness in the in-game filter in conjunction with DLSS? dlss 4.5 ultra performance looks fine, performance looks SUPER fine

too bad not all games has sharpness slider

[wet crane]

you can also use optiscaler to control the sharpness

[sturdy cloak]

Please do not EVER use unreal default sharpness. This thing kills kittens. And eyes.

[rigid yoke]

maybe my eyes are blurry

anyway i just try it in dlss 4/4.5 performance/balance and the buildings and outlines looks more viewable, I'll see again later

[sturdy cloak]

That. Lilium's CAS and RCAS sharpness shaders (reshade) are also amazing.

[rigid yoke]

nvm haven't tried cas and rcas yet, ty

[sturdy cloak]

Pleasure

[wet crane]

DLSS 4.5 is not bad in wuwa, but it's not immune to DLSS 4.5's poor AA and distant LOD shimmering issues

[rigid yoke]

first discovered optiscaler for framegen, too bad it doesn't work with RenoDX 🙁

[wet crane]

but 4 is just bad

[wet crane]

what do you mean?

Optiscaler works with RenoDX

[rigid yoke]

the OptiFG part doesn't in mine

[wet crane]

ah you mean FG

yea I don't use FG

but FG is kinda broken in wuwa anyways

[rigid yoke]

i heard opti can switch fsr 3 to 4 in fsr supported games, that's its main appeal

[wet crane]

I use optiscaler to control the sharpness and DLSS presets

[crystal thistle]

I found out it's preset M having this issue
Preset L is far superior, with minor performance impact

[wet crane]

"minor"

[rigid yoke]

i have 2060 super and lack of fp16 is demanding with preset L

M is toreable

[wet crane]

you mean ~10% performance impact

lol

[crystal thistle]

Well if you not on on series 50 maybe

[wet crane]

nah

it's 10%+ on a 40/50 series card

30%+ on the rest

[crystal thistle]

But I have 5090 and perf impact ain't that much

[wet crane]

you are CPU limited on a 5090...

[rigid yoke]

maybe your fps is high enough, like 145fps vs 125?

[crystal thistle]

I think it depends from game to game

[rigid yoke]

60fps below you'll really notice the difference

[rigid yoke]

or this yeah

https://youtu.be/g05Fs3I1qkg

[wet crane]

people with 5090s are like people with 9800x3D, the issues are invisible to you

[crystal thistle]

I think that's the game issue, developers are just doing anything atp

[wet crane]

but if you are CPU limited then you won't notice the difference

whats your GPU usage in wuwa? like 70%?

[crystal thistle]

Well depends by the area, most of the time is 99%

[wet crane]

I guess you use ini mods

[crystal thistle]

For example septimont may have some cpu bottleneck going on

Setp usage may go down to 90%

The game is just poorly unoptimized in some areas

[wet crane]

but still preset L's performance hit is actually pretty big even on a 5090 if you are not CPU limited

[crystal thistle]

Im not cpu limited, and the perf hit its nothing

No difference in my case on wuwa

[wet crane]

then you are cpu limited

if you get something like 110 fps with preset M then you should only get around 100 fps with L

[crystal thistle]

Well the gpu and cpu usage and do not change

I will have to check again to confirm, but last time I saw it was alright, it may vary from game to game the pef hit between presets

[wet crane]

you should also confirm that you are actually using preset L with the overlay

btw distant LOD is shimmering with preset L too, it might be a little better, but it does not fix the issue

[frozen token]

How negative should we put the sharpness slider in Wuwa preset M

[rigid yoke]

fiddle with it, personally i dont see that setting doing anything

only the filter sharpness makes a difference

[tepid pendant]

The sharpness slider in game does nothing

Hasn't done anything for ages iirc

[wet crane]

yes, you need optiscaler if you want a "sharpness slider"

[wet crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVqlxWlalQ hmm interesting, they are updating all walking/running animations

[rigid yoke]

i was talking about the in-game filter in settings, have u tried it?

go to Global Filter, then click Advanced and you will see sharpness

found it a bit beneficial

in that page you click Advanced

[tepid pendant]

I wonder if it actually does what its supposed to do.

Last time I heard that they don't even do proper warm and cold colouring.

[rigid yoke]

i tried cold before and it's just colder and more contrastier, crushing blacks

the sharpness though helps with dlss 4/4.5

since the game is mostly outlines it helps

ofc YMMV

[sour sorrel]

Did anyone manage to make optiscaler work with dlss fix?

[wet crane]

Endfiled’s gacha system is so bad wtf

you loose pity on banner reset

well I guess it depends on how much pulls we can get/patch

[wet crane]

I don't really like the character designs but I will give it a try

[tepid pendant]

I think the designs themselves are somewhat fine for what they are, but the skin looks plasticky-ish

Like silver palace during the recent CBT

Which looks weird and off.

[wet crane]

Yes I agree, but my main issue is with the human/animal hybrid characters, I really don't like tails for example

[tepid pendant]

Fair point

The game is definitely not for you then

That's what Arknights is really known for.

[wet crane]

the animations are really nice

[tepid pendant]

Animalistic features on characters.

[wet crane]

yea i'm not a fan

I dropped ZZZ for the very same reason

[tepid pendant]

I draw the line at ears and tails

[wet crane]

I draw the line at ears

lol

[tepid pendant]

Which seems to be the line for most gacha games.

F/GO has gone a bit further with one of their more recent characters.

[wet crane]

Or well the bear in endfield lol

and I have no idea what that Antal guy is

some kind of dragon I guess

[tepid pendant]

[wet crane]

I'm okay with small tails like Arclight's

[tepid pendant]

[wet crane]

but those lizard tails lol

[tepid pendant]

Yeah, it depends really on how its done

Lizard tails are a tad bit too much even for my line.

[wet crane]

but the animations are really good

there aren't as many animation/character as in for example wuwa, but the quality of the animations are really good

[tepid pendant]

Well, it'll probably keep on improving with time.

But the plasticky skin and the gacha system is not for me.

I have no idea what Chinese genius worked on the gacha system, but this is why you don't let the Chinese geniuses design gacha systems.

[wet crane]

yea its bad, especially if you want to pull every patch and/or the character + weapon

I will still give it a try. I got all launch awards and stuff, more than enough pulls to get one character and their weapon

[tepid pendant]

Yeah, definitely give it a shot if you're interested, the game might just stick despite having things you don't like.

[wet crane]

yea who knows

[tepid pendant]

Especially if you're interested in giving it a shot.

Nothing to lose, but time, but who doesn't have time nowadays.

2 hours of sleep and 22 hours of doing whatever.

[wet crane]

[tepid pendant]

Oh, yeah, wanted to ask

Would you possibly be interested in trying out to create an SDR preset?

Every time I try to adjust something because I just want a tad bit more brighter colors, I end up with weird results.

[wet crane]

not really xD

[tepid pendant]

Fair

[wet crane]

I don't want to spend hours testing, I want to decide if this game is worth my time haha

[tepid pendant]

I meant WuWa

[raven parrot]

End field looks amazing

great game so far

[wet crane]

ahh still no

use HDR

[wet crane]

yea except the gacha system

I really don't like the base/factory building in gacha games tho

I mean base building is fine as long as it's just a home base

[raven parrot]

hmm

trying to force rtx hdr on the game

XD

looks pre decent

[wet crane]

use SK HDR

in the current beta

Carte team in comparison:

[rigid yoke]

it won't for the mean time unless a way or fix was found

[tepid pendant]

Well according to everyone, my monitor is not exactly capable of good HDR.

And SDR should look better.

Maybe its time to do funsies, buy myself another controller, and connect my poor rig to my 4k TV.

Surely 4k on ryzen 7 2700 with rtx 2070 will go well, especially wuwa.

Then I can maybe enjoy the HDR benefits.

[sturdy cloak]

Optimistic people like you are a source of inspiration to me. I really wish I could replicate it...🥲

[tepid pendant]

Its simple really

You just turn your situation into a complete joke that can at least make someone else's day.

[wet crane]

Endfield runs on vulkan btw interesting

[echo ridge]

Useless for now tho

No RT

[wet crane]

SK fails to inject

[wet crane]

I hate when gacha intros are longer than 30 minutes

Just give me access to everything I will figure it out

[tepid pendant]

Yeah, have fun with all of the tutorials.

They're also mandatory due to huge amount of XP they give AFAIK

And there's plenty of them.

[echo ridge]

use the guide in the endfield channel

for reno dics

no vulkan

DX11 only

check pins

[sullen hawk]

been taking a break from the game (uninstalled over the holidays) - do I just do the normal reshade w/ add-on install along with the renodx file in the pinned comment? will this cause issues with FG or DLSS? I remember having to use DLSS fix before because I was trying to use DLSS 4 (preset k); I'm hoping to use DLSS 4.5 (model m) - are there any additional steps I need to take?

[crystal thistle]

4.5 is terrible if you use dlaa, preser K is just infinitely better, and no shimmer and better anti aliasing

If you use dlaa

If you use Performance use preset L

[wet crane]

yea arknight is not for me lol

the gacha is bad and I dislike the factory management

[echo ridge]

if you're not into the factory stuff then yea

dont play arknights

the gacha is mathematically better than other games

other than people "feeling" bad cause the guaranteed doesn't carry over

[wet crane]

maybe, but it "feels" bad, but I guess we will get enough pulls/patch to pull at least one character

but the weapon pull material is tied to the character pulling too

Wuwa is still the only Gacha game that kinda ticks all the boxes for me

[echo ridge]

if u come from a wuwa/hoyo perspective it feels bad

but it really isnt

especially

when dupes are useless

[wet crane]

yea idk, but I don't like the factory stuff and the character designs so it doesn't really matter 😄

the animations and art style are nice tho

except the weird skin

and it runs really well

[tepid pendant]

Not weird, plasticky.

Maybe that's an unique style they're going for? Not sure, but it definitely looks way too weird.

[frozen token]

Just logged on a a rando tried to join my game. Is there an exploit or something going on?

[coral thorn]

Guys, what about HDR on beta?

Is it useful for us?

[rigid yoke]

hdr on beta? what are you talking about

[coral thorn]

wuwa will have native hdr support

And it's already on beta client

[rigid yoke]

hmm don't have the storage for trying that

[wet crane]

veteran players are getting “thank you” pulls in 3.1

20 in total

it’s a permanent event

[sturdy cloak]

How far to be veteran ?

[wet crane]

We don’t know. It’s going to depend on how many 5-star characters/weapons you own and the number of days you have logged in

I need all the luck pulling Aemeath

[sturdy cloak]

Well I'm skiping aemath so...

[raven parrot]

theres specialK HDR for the game already?

Dayum!

[wet crane]

SpecialK HDR is universal

its inverse tonemapping

[raven parrot]

if specialK HDR exists then why does RenoDX hdr exist? cause of the custom sliders?

[wet crane]

SpecialK HDR is just a better AutoHDR not comparable to RenoDX

[raven parrot]

so its not like real hdr

justa better hdr

[wet crane]

Yes

Win AutoHDR -> RTX HDR -> SK HDR -> Lilium/Pumbo inverse tonemapping shaders -> RenoDX/Luma

worst to best

[raven parrot]

aside from that i'm glad arknights came out, everyone thought unity game engine was dead/last gen

arknights proved em wrong

just skill diff

[raven parrot]

ty

[wet crane]

everyone? nah more than 50% of all games use unity it’s just not advertised

unity is one of the most advanced/versatile engines

Genshin uses unity too btw

[formal spoke]

This might save me. I have about 50 Pulls left with no pity and I NEED Aemeath.

[coral thorn]

I'm so happy I got Mornye on second multipull

[wet crane]

10 character / 10 weapon pulls btw

I have about 185-200 pulls, but I don’t want to empty my “reserves” 😅

[formal spoke]

Thats also good because I also really want her signature weapon

[formal spoke]

I had the same plan but I spent almost all of my reserve by now lol

Btw I dont think they mentioned the HDR feature that was found in the beta in the livestream (Or maybe I missed it?)

[formal spoke]

Its just rerolling the substat

But still an improvement

[tepid pendant]

@wet crane The quality for details on Endfield is really fucking amazing.

Still not interested in the game personally, but the fans are eating good.

[wet crane]

yes but it almost looks cellshaded

the details are nice but something is off

[tepid pendant]

I was mostly talking about the rain affecting the clothes.

[wet crane]

oh yea

[tepid pendant]

Like why did no other open world gacha game think of paying attention to little details like that

[wet crane]

wuwa kinda pays attention

wet character can look really strange especially when the characters are excluded from half of the lighting calculations

[tepid pendant]

Well that I can agree with.

[wet crane]

Endfield’s character are a lot more “grounded”

[tepid pendant]

We're probably still a few generations away from seeing proper wet effects.

And maybe wet effects affecting more than just the looks.

[wet crane]

and truly interactive environments

[tepid pendant]

Yup

[crystal thistle]

How do you use lilium inverse tone mapping? I tried to make my image hdr like but I get a washed out image

[sturdy cloak]

Once the addon is on, reoppen the game and use the reverse tonemapping shader from lilium.

[wet crane]

or you can use SK’s raw framebuffer mode

[crystal thistle]

Oh its an add-on, not a shader

[crystal thistle]

Yea but I don't like special K that much because of fps hit but I'd use lilium reverse tonemapping

[wet crane]

there should be no FPS hit if your CPU is decent enough

but you can use the addon if you don’t want to use SK

https://github.com/EndlesslyFlowering/AutoHDR-ReShade link to the addon

[sturdy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

LIES !!!

Why give me hope ?

I just watched the livestream

[wet crane]

well it's better than nothing

I guess haha

[sturdy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-tune-fine-tuning-fine-tuned-copium-walter-white-gif-4796770362564082802

Maybe it's a 3.2 thing...

[wet crane]

I told everyone that Luuk is evil

and he is or was a fractsidus member

this screams fractsidus

[sturdy cloak]

Yes. But it also looks cool as hell. And it's possibly literal.

[wet crane]

that wanted poster kinda proves it too haha

plot twist

he is Christoforo from an alternative universe

[sturdy cloak]

You can't possibly tell me the drip isn't real after showing me this pic.

[wet crane]

I mean he looks a lot cooler with this red coat

but I still want to punch him in the face

[sturdy cloak]

Yes indeed. Good point.

[sturdy cloak]

Yes. But I like the "I would dissect you if you ever tried to punch me in the face" vibe.

Beside. Scythe.

This weapon won't ever make sense in a martial context. But god does it look cool.

[wet crane]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-punch-serious-gif-12250021

Rip Luuk

[sturdy cloak]

Now i've fot the music in my head. That's a dirty move.

[wet crane]

that floating animation is sick

but i need Aemeath

I love rapiers and rapier users

the rapier is my absolute favorite melee weapon

[sturdy cloak]

Well now that i've seen the live me too actually... and Chisa rerun... this is a nightmare

[wet crane]

Chisa is a mystery to me

[sturdy cloak]

Me too... red mage is based in ff14

[wet crane]

Chisa is a Cratwheel bis and not much else

she is super cool buuuut not really usable in teams

for now

[sturdy cloak]

Yes. But the ability to free rover ( or ciaconna if you go rover-chisa) is nice.

[sturdy cloak]

And it more or less is the only weapon they tend to get right-ish in fiction also.

[sturdy cloak]

My guess is she's going to BiS for Geshu-lin

[wet crane]

the c haracter that we are never going to get XD?

[crystal thistle]

If we get hdr support for wuwa, that means no more flicker?

[sturdy cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-malevolent-shrine-copium-gif-17048246567311451549

If I beleive hard enough maybe...

https://tenor.com/view/im-stressed-sheldon-cooper-panicking-nervous-anxious-gif-16590451

[sturdy cloak]

More like no more cnn model for fg.

[crystal thistle]

That's what I mean, no more fg flicker

[sturdy cloak]

Well in that case yes.

[crystal thistle]

On 310.1 and up

[sturdy cloak]

For a moment I thought you were actively playing with the flicker rather than downgrade fg...

[crystal thistle]

Well I have dlssfg fix so I'm alright

@wet crane how good is inverse tone mapping compared to rtx hdr?

[wet crane]

a lot better, you have full control over the settings

[warm trellis]

hi all. just wondering if the pinned version is the latest? (dec 25)

[crystal thistle]

No quality difference?

[crystal thistle]

I want to use this method, how?

[crystal thistle]

Yes

[warm trellis]

im getting an error when loading, are there install instructions somewhere? i installed reshade 6.7.1 with addon and changed dxgi to d3d12

[chrome veldt]

Wuwa will add official HDR in the next version. I wonder how the effect will be.

[tardy mirage]

Why does it have quality levels though 🤔

[sturdy cloak]

Plot twist : that's actually auto hdr

[wet crane]

Switch to scRGB native:

[wet crane]

it depends, you can choose which tone mapper you want to use with the shaders

[tepid pendant]

I'm assuming when WuWa gets official HDR support, no more weird issues with transitions and such?

When using reno

[dusty tiger]

Probably depends how they implemented it and if Reno can hook it.

[crystal thistle]

Then what?

[wet crane]

enable the inverse tonemapping shader 😄

that's it really

or you can use the auto hdr addon which does the same

[dusty tiger]

Apparently the quality levels for the HDR are a poor translation and there are actually 2 sliders for HDR.
Perhaps max brightness and white point? Who knows.