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[midnight tide]

Excluding 1.0, i find other gacha environment to be better crafted

[sturdy cloak]

Very much so 👌 🫡 !

[midnight tide]

Give me an example of a tomboy character you liked

[sturdy cloak]

Game or in general ?

[midnight tide]

Game gacha

[sturdy cloak]

Varies zone to zone, but 1.0 was probably the best overall. That said, some secondary maps are very cool I think.

[midnight tide]

1.3 and 1.4 are my favorite

Pretty disappointed what they’ve done with 2.x except Honami

But tbh Honami exploration suck ass

[sturdy cloak]

Well I actually don't play gacha much apart from wuwa so...

Wait, maybe in Sword of Convallaria.

[midnight tide]

[sturdy cloak]

In Sword Of Convalaria : Cocoa is cute. Tristan is cool.

[midnight tide]

Nice thanks i will check them out for curiosity sake

[sturdy cloak]

My pleasure !

[sturdy cloak]

I think Phrolova's zone was pretty nice too!

[vital moss]

Not into disney theme park that's all

I prefer themes that align more closer with what the game started out with 👍

[wet crane]

fair enough but there was great stuff in 2.x, the disney theme park kinda ended with 2.0 and the carneval/pirate guys

[midnight tide]

Yes

[wet crane]

Some people really hate the common echoes haha

I get it, it’s one of the main reasons I really dislike Phoebe

[vital moss]

It sucks ass that they couldn't help but introduce a new fantasy element, stupid "tribe"

And sigrika

Like can we not

phoebe clone

[wet crane]

sigrika loves animals and plants instead of echoes haha

[vital moss]

Would be like if the desert of cyberpunk 2077 had people hunting animals with blow darts and bows

[sturdy cloak]

Avinoleum also.

[vital moss]

Genshin never appealed me so ye

[midnight tide]

I like the genshin overall art style way more

Because of its variety so only on a technical aspect

For the character it depends

Skirk for example, I dont see anybody in wuwa getting even close

raiden as well like

Like if genshin wasnt spitting on their playerbase the game could be legit so good

[midnight tide]

yeah tbh i was mostly talking about the environement of genshin

I mean when you change region in genshin you definitly notice before anything else

in wuwa you can change region without even noticing sometimes

I mean septimont could be a 1.X area nobody would say it's out of place

but I agree on pretty much everything else you said

[wet crane]

Mornye lol, but the combat is just bad in Genshin imo

and the actual character models are kinda bad

in-game skirk is not that great looking:

• big head syndrome

it's funny because their head is normal sized on the artworks

[echo ridge]

Always has been...

Check out yoimiya

Ingame vs splash

Xd

Cookie cutter model reusing looking ahh

[wet crane]

btw we got our Tsundere character for the school arc...

The Iuno, Lynae, Mornye team is going to be interesting

[midnight tide]

I still prefer that over any wuwa character

But that’s personal taste

The giant head is bad tho I agree

[midnight tide]

Your taste for Phoebe makes me wonder why does your opinion even matter

[sour sorrel]

I have a question, I’m using HDR present, but 2.4 gamma looks much better to me, I want to know if it’s a placebo effect or.. Idk what to think of it

[raven parrot]

Same

Gamma 2.4 looks better in hdr for me

[sour sorrel]

What do you mean by deleting shadow detail?

Ah I see, so I'll compare 2.4 to 2.2 and try to see if there's any significant difference. Thanks!

[echo ridge]

alright

lets see if it broke

to no one's surprise

good news lutbuilders seem to be unchanged

[midnight tide]

Please wuwano goat cook something

[echo ridge]

no reason it shouldn't

[echo ridge]

server's up

@halcyon meteor

main output shader so i can dump the rest

[echo ridge]

@halcyon meteor initial set of output shaders

INITIAL

inb4 all the clamping screenshots

[glad mauve]

Y DIS NO WORKY

IT SAYS RENO WORKY ON GITHUB

Y MY SCREEN STILL SDR ?????

[copper ore]

patch just came out like 30 minutes ago

hold on a bit

[glad mauve]

Maybe dont say Reno works if it doesnt ???????

[copper ore]

wut

[glad mauve]

(I am shitposting)

[copper ore]

oh ight im too high for that apparently mb 💀

[glad mauve]

[light agate]

what's for lunch？

[bleak light]

cooking mods or cooking meals

Im gonna make lunch for my doggies before playing then

[echo ridge]

remaining output shaders @halcyon meteor

galbrena's ult might share the same hash with augusta

so if augusta's ult doesn't need patching after this

then i'd know

[burnt oyster]

woa only got to the academy

looks so good

now gotta do it on 2nd acc

and 3rd with hdr

[faint monolith]

Every time the perspective is switched, there is stuttering

[echo ridge]

no shit dog

this game is dog stutter fest

lol

[faint monolith]

The stuttering that can currently be stably reproduced occurs after ALT+TAB switching; moving the perspective again will cause stuttering.

[echo ridge]

also kinda irrelevant

because its with the game

not something reno can fix

[faint monolith]

Yeah, I'm just venting about the game's optimization issues.

Maybe wait a few days to see if the stuttering can be alleviated after the update patch.

[echo ridge]

it never gets better

it will only get worse

as they add more things

their "optimization" for 2.8 to improve performance

was to further reduce draw distance/ draw less object

if you use ini tweaks in the first place to fix the draw distance basically nothing changed

[glad mauve]

UEsloppa... Nothing personal kid

Maybe get a better PC ????

[echo ridge]

should have bitten the bullet

and migrated to UE5

[glad mauve]

Unless they get the divine intervention of god himself and Eurojank CDPR levels of multithreading

its kinda over

Byberpunk truly is a tech marvel

dogshit spahegt engine yet has no visible shader comp, doesnt have shader stutter, doesnt have stutter at all

[glad mauve]

you should have migrated to UE5

[echo ridge]

UE5 base then at least the update to 5.7

will be less painful

at 4.27

they have no other choice

than to backport jank from UE5

no where to go

[glad mauve]

ummm

maybe stop slopping

take out RT

take out HDR (no one uses HDR anyways)

compress the textures

Hire TI as the lead engine dev

[echo ridge]

true

TI AA

maximum motion clarity

maximum FPS

turn on TI AA fps increase by 900%

break the law of physics

[glad mauve]

Alternatively just WaitTM for 10800X4D + 6090

and stop moaning

or just buy 3 GPUs and turbomaxx LSFG

[halcyon meteor]

• Patched initial set of 3.0 shaders

[echo ridge]

looks like they replaced the video shader too

lmao

[light agate]

Why is the character’s outline flickering?anyone knows？

[echo ridge]

record a video and put it here

I'll amend my PR for the autoHDR video support once you push the changes up there

doesn't seem to be merged since the last time

[echo ridge]

40fps cpu limited doing nothing

eks Dee

[raven parrot]

whats ur cpu?

[echo ridge]

i had a PR that added autoHDR to videos

wasn't merged to ur repo

stil sitting in pull request (added 3.0 shader now)

[echo ridge]

nevermind i forgot to turn off devkit

xd

we're back to ordinary shitty perf level

[echo ridge]

I already added the new shader in

U can prob merge my changes and make a new build and should just work

[shy gyro]

have anyone test 3.0 reno?

is it better than official hdr?

[light agate]

3.0 has added official HDR？

[shy gyro]

yes, they claimed it in the preview

don't know if hdr is up right now or not

persona 5？

Where is my hdr kuro

But Reno is good enough, thanks for the developers

[nimble seal]

Does DLSS FG have a patch to fix the highlight flickering?

I remember someone saying there used to be, but I can’t find it now

Do you want me to change the ReShade version? After changing, it probably won't support WUWA, right?

Here it says to switch versions

[sturdy cloak]

Not necessary anymore

Was true for the first version

[bleak light]

nice music while riding

[midnight tide]

Thanks !

[vital moss]

Reshade crashes optiscaler, did you guys encounter this?

[bleak light]

no, works for me

[vital moss]

Use fg?

Or not

[bleak light]

nope

[vital moss]

Ah okay guess it doesn't work with fg then

[wet crane]

I had to pull Lynae

I got her and her weapon in ~90 pulls yay

and I lost the 50/50

lol

My calculator is S5 now....

[sour sorrel]

Works for me, I’m using nukem’s. Dlssg input is broken since two last patches iirc

[echo ridge]

claimed where?

[shy gyro]

3.0 preview, I think somebody posted it in discord too

[echo ridge]

What 3.0 preview

[shy gyro]

It's a live stream

[echo ridge]

Yes can you link to where they said they said hdr

[shy gyro]

I made a mistake, it's from the leak

[vital moss]

How did you set it up?

[shy gyro]

Let me find the post

[vital moss]

Ah you have rtx 4000 or higher

I wish I could force the FG option to appear somehow

Then it would probably work for me as well

[echo ridge]

No need just waiting for you to say

[echo ridge]

this

There was never any hdr support announced

Was a leak and probably looked like trash anyways

[shy gyro]

This one

[echo ridge]

Yes

Everyone saw that

[shy gyro]

Disappointed, i thought they would announced it in the livestream

Probably not ready yet

[echo ridge]

Doesnt make a difference when it has a 95% chance of being

A trash implementation anyways

[shy gyro]

They don't have hdr experience base on their previous product

[echo ridge]

A toggle u can turn on

And then go back to reno

[glad mauve]

Ebic recently fixed UE5 HDR with 5.7

SDR LUT will now work properly and not get skipped....however HDR will now be effectively ITM

[shy gyro]

True

[glad mauve]

[shy gyro]

Highlights is the best setting in Reno to me

[echo ridge]

triple a devs cant implement hdr properly and you think kuso games can deliver anything

[shy gyro]

Better than highlights in nv filter

They only let any light source overexposure

[glad mauve]

get ready for the next chapter of true sloppery with UE HDR

[echo ridge]

i havent caught up with 5.7 news so are u trolling or is this real

it sounds so absurd but on the other hand more absurd things have happened

[glad mauve]

let me link

so they fixed LUTs being skipped

but now we get ITM shit for filmic

ofc they can use ACES with wont be ITM but I am guessing LUTs will still be skipped. So mfs will turn on filmic instead which is ITM

[shy gyro]

I'm not a UE devs. So it means there's no proper native hdr support before 5.7?

[echo ridge]

There is native hdr support before 5.7

What do u think the hdr toggle in gameusersettings.ini is for

Its just trash

Now they just updated their trash

[glad mauve]

UE has had HDR output since 4.1 something

so 2017, I remember they did a presentation about Paragon

[echo ridge]

With itm trash

Jesus

Man default is itm

We live in a sdr society

[shy gyro]

Hasn't anyone tell them to fix it?

[glad mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

Pumbo, Ersh, Nukem

Lilium

[echo ridge]

Oops

Wrong gif

[echo ridge]

You forgot the most vocal ue critic

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

[glad mauve]

wait

wait wait wait

Ok so ACES is now using gamma 2.4

but filmic is still sRGB

get ready for double wash out

SDR inverse

its truly ogre

I just know Witcher 4 HDR will be turbo slop

[echo ridge]

Probably gonna use some custom shit

[glad mauve]

BF1 HDR is slop

ITM

Brightness slider is scaled like wack

I have to play with 35% otherwise everything is clipped to shit

[verbal schooner]

hdr prosthetics must pull

[wet crane]

Singularity Expansion is hard lol

you need 4 maxed teams perfect rotation to get half the rewards

😄

[verbal schooner]

what about the full rewards

[wet crane]

thats for whales

I'm pretty sure that its impossible for low spenders

you can get all astrite rewards with good teams but you can't get all

[verbal schooner]

damn whale bait content

[wet crane]

it's not that big of a deal tho, the rewards are meh

if you can do 5000 points with 4 teams then you can get all usefull rewards

I don't think that 1.x characters can get 5000 points tho

[verbal schooner]

my 1.x characters have been retired for a long time

😂

[wet crane]

I had to use them for this event

i was running out of teams

I did a perfect no hit run with Camellya

[verbal schooner]

oh ya 4 teams

[wet crane]

and i could get 4000 points lol

nowhere near 5000

[verbal schooner]

haven't ran Camellya ever since we got phrolova

[wet crane]

impossible with S0 1.x characters

[verbal schooner]

gonna be rough

[wet crane]

maybe with Jinhsi

but I don't own her

I need to build my Lynae

XLY is good again with her

[verbal schooner]

Jinhsi also powercrept pretty hard by zani

[wet crane]

Lynae turns Iuno main DPS into a better main DPS than the Augusta Iuno team lol

[verbal schooner]

I like the sound of Iuno main dps

Augusta feels clunky to play for me

[wet crane]

ah yea Zani, but then you need Phoebe

[verbal schooner]

yeah the full premium team

[wet crane]

yea she is amazing

Cartethyia destroys everything too with Ciconna + Chisa

the highest DPS team atm

[verbal schooner]

ya was really happy to drop aerover

[wet crane]

but that's just one team 😩

anyways I'm no too mad about the new endgame mode

since we can get the astrite rewards if you have 4 good teams

and you can share healers with 2 teams

[verbal schooner]

main thing for me is getting the astrites

[wet crane]

aka Shorekeeper and Verina can be used twice

[verbal schooner]

I'm completely empty from lynae

[wet crane]

and Mornye

[verbal schooner]

and no wep to boot

[wet crane]

I was lucky

I lost the 50/50 to calculator but I got her in 70 pulls still

and the weapon in 15

[verbal schooner]

nice

I'll have to 100% lahai roi and see how it goes from there

[wet crane]

and I want Mornye too

[verbal schooner]

she is must pull for me

[wet crane]

we are getting 160-170 pulls froms 3.0 alone

so it should be fine

I still have ~150 pulls

and I will skip the guy next month

[verbal schooner]

you're pretty set with that stash

[wet crane]

probably

yea I was quite lucky with Chisa too

[verbal schooner]

hoping the guy comes next so I have some time to save

[vital moss]

sus

[wet crane]

but I'm pretty sure that they are going to nerf the new event

The chinese players are going into rage mode soon

it's the first truly not F2P friendly game mode

and the "demo" characters are laughable

[vital moss]

hope so

kuro is getting waaaay too confident with bullshit like that

[wet crane]

they are just testing us imo

I mean you can finally use all your S6 characters for something XD

[sour sorrel]

I used this https://github.com/cdozdil/d3d12-proxy. Change the optiscaler's .dll file name to d3d12.dll and put dxgi.dll in the game folder next to game .exe

Then the dlss frame gen option will appear in your game settings

[vital moss]

Okay will try ty

Isn't dxgi.dll dangerous though?

[sour sorrel]

same as every other .dll i'd say, up to you

[vital moss]

Ah i think it crashes

Fatal error: [File:Unknown] [Line: 690]
CommandList->Close() failed
at D:\WS3\c5a9c\48b88\Engine\Source\Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/D3D12CommandList.cpp:147
with error E_INVALIDARG

0x00007ffff3a780da KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001429c09a6 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001429c3130 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x000000014297802d Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142f27314 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142eabc9a Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142eb27ea Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142f1fa3a Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142f227ce Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000143dc110b Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000143dc15cb Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000142864cbb Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x0000000143defdc6 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001429c2ed7 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001429ba141 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffff475e8d7 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffff61cc53c ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []

Crash in runnable thread RHIThread

[wet crane]

the new animated avatar images are cool

I use winmm.dll

for optiscaler

it works fine

I use reshade + optiscaler + SK

[vital moss]

problem is with fg tho

without fg everything already works

[wet crane]

ah ye I don't use FG

nvm then

[vital moss]

@sour sorrel It's working!

with that dll

thanks!

[sour sorrel]

which gpu?

[vital moss]

3070ti mobile

[sour sorrel]

ah alr, on my 2070S i had to change preset K to E since K has a big performance hit, but it's not the case for 30xx iirc

glad it's working 👍

[vital moss]

Eh there probably is but it's been so long so I just stick with it

Use performance mode though

To compensate

[wet crane]

LOD bias is a completely new setting

Volumetric fog quality is new too I think

LOD Bias should be automatic tho

based on the DLSS quality preset

[limber dune]

can someone point me to how to install reshade/reno without triggering the anticheat? I looked in pins but didn't see a guide

I tried launching it through xxmi but I couldn't get reshade to launch through it

I was led to believe that WuWa's anticheat flagged reshade if it was just placed in the game folder but I guess not?

huh, yeah, that shit worked lol

thanks!

[red nebula]

what do you guys set for game/ui brightness? 400 looks kinda right to me

1100

203 is super dull on my screen for some reason

my monitor is a samsung neo odyssey g7

[limber dune]

MSI updated their monitors with that EOTF mode that peaks at 700 so I use that

because yeah, the 1000 peak HDR mode looks pretty bad

[red nebula]

yes high local dimming, contrast 80 (default is 70), black equalizer 13

oh wow, yeah with the reshade window the game is brighter

Peak 10% Window
1,129 cd/m² so I had already set it to that :/

[limber dune]

man, this game is so much prettier with proper hdr on oled 😭

[red nebula]

just like every other game XD

HDR is so underrated...

for some reason 500nits looks perfect... sorry for the file size @clear holly

[limber dune]

😭

[limber dune]

yeah, for sure, I just didn't think I would because I was scared away from talk of reshade getting you banned lol

[red nebula]

hmmmm

150 is like an amazon kindle

contrast feels ok, I could set it to gamma 2.4 if needed

hmm changli's skill does feel like it's not bright enough

the sun is super bright

for some reason hightlights and other custom color gradings don't apply

nothing changes

oh really? Ye I always get them from github

it says november snapshot

better than using the old version for sure

idk about that, I always have to raise it in other games too with renodx

let me see

[glad mauve]

Fella was playing in SDR

[glad mauve]

You might just be a enjoyer

[red nebula]

oh yeah now the color grading is working

hmm those just change the colors for me, not the brightness

oohhhhhh wait

THAT'S WHERE THE PRESETS ARE?

I was always confused why it always came with no settings

with vanilla+ or hdr look 203 nits actually doesn't look bad!

I guess that solves it I was just playing with 50 on everything

I've settled for 300nits

thanks a lot!!!! @clear holly

yeah I had no idea devs put their presets under options

so I was always confused with preset 1-2-3 being empty for the user to set

vanilla+ and HDR look are

[alpine kestrel]

peak 1000 mode is broken and dims everything

trying to fight it by increasing game brightness doesn't work

because it just makes abl kick in harder

ah my bad

its mini led

Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 S32BG75

if its this

ya then it shouldn't have abl

[red nebula]

it's qled

[alpine kestrel]

ya that's mini led + quantum dot

so abl isn't an issue

i also think most pepole are used to setting their screens way too bright

[red nebula]

LS32BG750NUXEN

[alpine kestrel]

ya no idea what that's about

holy shit

[red nebula]

see how it gets brighter?

and more saturated somehow

[alpine kestrel]

oh that makes sense

[red nebula]

hmm it doesn't go away no

like, now it's a nightscene, and the tiles look bluer with the reshade overlay on

it really does stay like that

[red nebula]

?

is this monitor inconsistent with brightness or something?

[alpine kestrel]

the graph shows expected brightness vs measurements, basically the display is super inaccurate and jacks up contrast

it makes shadows way darker and highlights way brighter

[red nebula]

ah damn

[red nebula]

typical samsung

[alpine kestrel]

ya they seem to love doing that on minileds

on their oleds they keep it accurate

[red nebula]

I'm a sucker for that HDR look so I don't blame them

[glad mauve]

enjoyer

[red nebula]

the stars look really pretty in wuwa with the HDR look

[red nebula]

https://youtu.be/-Og9AJltlVI?si=aHzTUJSLr-vt26lA

this is me playing lies of P

[glad mauve]

Do I flasbang you with my HDR emojis

hmmm

[echo ridge]

deep frying enjoyer

[glad mauve]

another soul hath fallen for the 'Eye searing highlights' meme

[red nebula]

ohh I didn't realize they made a profile, I've added it as an HDR profile in windows
looks kinda the same as my profile made with the windows calibration tool, but I'll stick with it thx

color grading 80 looks very good too

you guys know your stuff

I appreciate people's obsession with HDR, I love it too

I made a windows task to run an exe to set windows' tonemap function because the washed out brighter colors were driving me insane
https://www.reddit.com/r/HDR_Den/comments/1pjxdcp/my_feedback_to_microsoft_regarding_hdr/

it's crazy how windows doesn't tonemap SDR properly still

brooo how many fixes are out there, this is like the third one, wow

but wait

doesn't this fuck up HDR content?

since it's using a display profile

so you have to toggle it everytime no?

oh yeah, I found something better

it's an exe that actually patches the SDR transfer function in windows

so it only alters how SDR content is displayed, no effect on HDR stuff

[alpine kestrel]

nvidia automatically does 2.2 for video

[red nebula]

I literally can't...I mean look at this shit

[red nebula]

I think this could be fixed if windows just gave us a tonemap gamma slider, no?

[glad mauve]

? wdym by tonemap

ohhh

sRGB vs Gamma 2.2

[red nebula]

SDR content into HDR

YES

[glad mauve]

Me and Musa stand by it

[red nebula]

I want gamma 2.2 and windows uses sRGB

[glad mauve]

sRGB looks normal now

[red nebula]

they should at least let users set whatever they want

[glad mauve]

gamma 2.2 is too crushed

for winblows

for everything else I use gamma 2.2

[red nebula]

noo you guys got the windows srgb disease

[wet crane]

this new dude Dr Luuk... this is a next level otome shit

🤦‍♂️

[red nebula]

I had it too until I turned off HDR in my monitor, then I shat my pants

[wet crane]

I mean female players love it probably

but I don't lol

[red nebula]

come on, in what world does the right picture look accurate?

[wet crane]

classic gamma mismatch

[red nebula]

it's like those fake SDR vs HDR comparison pictures companies make when trying to sell you monitors

[glad mauve]

one linear change for michealsoft btw

[red nebula]

my feedback's got 83 upvotes, SURELY it reached all the way up to the CEO by now

[glad mauve]

but I cant be asked to turn off the 'fixes' before using HDR

[red nebula]

https://aka.ms/AAz3zny

[glad mauve]

and since I use HDR for everything

I just cope with windblows sRGB

[red nebula]

that's why I use a fix that doesn't use color profiles, so my fix doesn't mess HDR content

it's region locked or something :/ sad

[red nebula]

https://pastebin.com/vna4sSMK try this

I actually use 2.4 instead of 2.2, it looks more accurate to SDR idk why

[glad mauve]

dwm I have

let me try again

because previous I disabled it

sRGB brainrot has gotten to me

[red nebula]

I could never live without it again

honestly

NEVER

my monitor looks so good in both SDR and HDR now

I became king arthur when I found out about that fix

because I Camelot

wtf 0???

[alpine kestrel]

i use 5

[red nebula]

I have 80 🤣

[glad mauve]

80

AHHHHH

[alpine kestrel]

that's 400 nits

[glad mauve]

bro is a dedicated BRIGTHNESS enjoyer

[red nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-man-dance-dancing-dancing-stickman-neon-dance-gif-13350800265608055165

[alpine kestrel]

i go up to 15 during the day depending on sun position

[glad mauve]

umm

[red nebula]

maybe it's just my monitor, idk
you guys probably have OLEDs

[glad mauve]

Musa do I back out the post

[wet crane]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-baby-sun-gif-19474019

[glad mauve]

musa

[red nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-jump-scare-gif-11326455699963497416

oh it's another job application meme...I just wanted the light

I just spent 2:30 hours tinkering with HDR instead of playing

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

thx guys

[echo ridge]

@glad mauve can't beat the allegations

another deep fryer

[glad mauve]

[red nebula]

looks so good

me likey

[echo ridge]

sir this is a wendy's

we use PNGs here

[red nebula]

but pngs are SDR...

[echo ridge]

no

PNGs are HDR

[red nebula]

what

how

[red nebula]

reshade?

[echo ridge]

use reshade to take a screenshot

and then post it here

dont use game bar

[red nebula]

I was using nvidia

let me try reshade

[echo ridge]

get with the times

another jxr here and i will kill you

in a video game

it's still better than nothing

@glad mauve i decided to try RT shadows again for this game

man

this implementation is slop

didn't hit too much fps for me

[glad mauve]

80% SDR slider
posts .jxr

[echo ridge]

but it almost completely lacks soft shadows

[glad mauve]

[echo ridge]

a lot of lights will now go from not casting shadows

to casting RT shadows

with RT shadows off

the problem is

no variable penumbra

these shadows look so artifically sharp

might as well turn it off

[red nebula]

I'm not sure this is accurate

[glad mauve]

UI is berry bright]

[red nebula]

see? The game's not deep fried

[echo ridge]

meanwhil

[red nebula]

it's just how I like it

[echo ridge]

hogwarts legacy

[red nebula]

🥰

[echo ridge]

kuso games can't do anything properly

[glad mauve]

Buro games

Snoozo Games

[echo ridge]

let me boot hogwarts in

[glad mauve]

Spiwar out here complaing about RT

[echo ridge]

the game has correct soft shadows with RT

[glad mauve]

it doesnt matter

we're all going back to raster

[echo ridge]

and its good everywhere

[glad mauve]

and PS2 tech

[echo ridge]

not when the shadow is so ass

oh no

cause they haven't seen

proper sharp

[glad mauve]

brother, Byberpunk with PT doesnt even cast correct shadows unless you pick up Sosuines Fixes

[echo ridge]

hogwarts legacy RT shadow is so peak

wuwa could never

let me boot the game up bb

[glad mauve]

Hogwars slop

Focus M, game

[red nebula]

you guys play with RT ON? It bottlenecks my 5800X3D

[glad mauve]

Musa has cooked with Focus M

[wet crane]

are there missing shaders in the mod btw?

[echo ridge]

they didnt use pcss but kuro already has their own

soft shadows algorithm

[wet crane]

I do but I got a 9800X3D

[echo ridge]

which is why

[glad mauve]

9800X3D, MFG 4x slop enjoyer here

[red nebula]

fg? ugh

[echo ridge]

turning off RT shadows

better for this game

[red nebula]

YOU GUYS spend so much time calibrating hdr just to use MFG 4x???

[echo ridge]

kuro approximated slop rather than half assed rt shadows

so mid

[red nebula]

[wet crane]

it depends on the location, it looks good in Septimont wilderness area

[glad mauve]

with crashes

yes

[red nebula]

everybody's got to have something to take the edge off I guess

for me it's staring into the sun

[echo ridge]

yeah but it could have been way better

[red nebula]

that's how I like my HDR

[echo ridge]

and absolutely doesn't justify

the perf hit

[wet crane]

I mean yes, but turning it off turns off shadows

[glad mauve]

Why am I even here, I am taking a break from Wuwa

[wet crane]

yea well thats true

the new area is not as performance heavy as 2.8 so far

[red nebula]

did you try the dwm fix?

[echo ridge]

✅ situationally have more shadows than raster
❎ perf hit
❎ no more soft shadows (even if raster is just an approximation)
personally imma turn it off

but yea others can make a diff choice

[echo ridge]

give it up blud

[red nebula]

RT is just too CPU intensive in this game... not worth it

[echo ridge]

I shilled dwm eotf to him many moons ago

[wet crane]

fair enough

[echo ridge]

he's not biting

[red nebula]

I have set it up with task scheduler, works perfectly

I will never be able to live without it

[wet crane]

RTGI looks semi decent at least

[red nebula]

it looks super good! But the bottleneck...

[glad mauve]

well you can cope with your muuhh

I will turn every setting to maxx and use my Engine.ini to further maxx because draw distance is dogshit

[wet crane]

RT reflections are super broken but the alternative is worse

[red nebula]

Skyrim gameplay

[glad mauve]

I disabled screentracing

fuck SSR

[echo ridge]

gachaslop channels always the most lively one

[wet crane]

it's free to slop

[glad mauve]

wait wait wait

I never disabled the fix

I have been running gamma 2.2 this whole time

Musa

I have failed you

[red nebula]

brooo welcome to the club

so if you kill dwm you get srgb?

[glad mauve]

so wtf, was I double gamma correcting

it was deepfried

previously

well seems so

[red nebula]

no

[glad mauve]

reboot from bios or

[red nebula]

it doesn't even survive sleep

you need to schedule tasks

[glad mauve]

hmm maybe its because I scheduled it

thats why I didnt notice it

[red nebula]

but it should make a cmd window

are you sure you're actually running it?

kill dwm, see if it rollbacks

just the cmd window opening

and sometimes it will switch to srgb for some images when scrolling web based apps

but it's pretty hassle free, a gazillion times better than color profiles

It doesn't touch the hdr image at all

[glad mauve]

Ok I ran it again

and it patched somethingf

now it looks all deepfried

crushed to shit

[red nebula]

you can build it in visual studio and remove the pause, but the memory allocation needs to be changed

vstudio doesn't like how the guy on github did it

[red nebula]

do you have color profiles on too?

[glad mauve]

wait you said it uses 2.4 gamma

hmm

thats probably why I think its too dark

[red nebula]

yeah you can't live without it once you try it

proper SDR content while HDR is on

fucking finally

anything

try it

lmaoo I'm deep in shadps4

I even bothered turtle to fix the extra draws that were holding back 4K

I got him a gpu trace and bam he made 4K run like 100% better

[wet crane]

using a 2.2 icc profile while playing HDR games? 💀

[red nebula]

that's the neat thing about the dwm fix, it doesn't affect HDR content because it's not a profile
it's patching windows' SDR transfer function

I've been a tester for a while but only with BB 😇 I've helped here and there, but only as a tester really

I've also bothered another main dev to fix the assertion failed, and another one to fix the 2gb buffer issue...

I've been pretty involved come to think of it ❤️

[wet crane]

you mean doge's fix?

[red nebula]

bro pass me that blunt

wooo

[red nebula]

I was making shady exes before diego even got in the server. I was even the one to teach him how to build the code in github
people really wanted to play 5 extra mins then so we were skipping shaders like crazy

people were modding everything out of the game to get 2mins extra playtime

good times

I got extra 16GB RAM (so 32) SPECIFICALLY for BB's memory leak

[red nebula]

yeah I did that before it was cool, they called it pino exes, then they banned exes from the server (understendably so), so people moved to github

[echo ridge]

teh fuck

why isnt it saving in hdr

there you go

look at that

[glad mauve]

no forget what I just said. I wasnt running dwm at all

[red nebula]

looks nice ngl, reminds me of AC Unity

[red nebula]

oh...

[echo ridge]

peak ass soft shadows

and its every shadow

meanwhile wuwa slop razor sharp shadows

now if only wuwa slop could implement some of the soft shadow magic

[red nebula]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT
last time I looked at that mod I really disliked the looks, this is next level

[glad mauve]

You do it

use Reno

decomp shader

off you go

[red nebula]

this is how I remember the game looking in dx9 with gedosato btw, those were the good old days

[echo ridge]

No

[red nebula]

this is how the area was meant to be played...Remember the original trailer? Before they made torchless pointless and the game super washed out. Bright Souls 2

I hate how the hero light was so pretty and justified in DeS with the Augite of Souls, and then they just kept it without an item in Dark Souls

not so Dark Souls 2 and 3...

ugh I'm so confused
I don't have shorekeeper so I think I'll wait for the new healer
then for weapons I'm not sure if getting the greasword or gun is better, I want to use Ciacconia with Zani

I do have Cartheya tho

[wet crane]

Using Ciaconna with Changli?

that's not the greatest combo lol

bot the new broadblade and pistol are good

[echo ridge]

actually this place also casts shadow without RT shadow

the implementation is jank so if you switch on/off between RT shadow and normal shadow

the normal shadow is gone

but if you restart the game it's back

[red nebula]

I don't have phoebe

[red nebula]

ohh I meant Zani...

[light agate]

i am very lucy in 2.3 ,spend 23 for zani just a try at first

[glad mauve]

@red nebula

[red nebula]

AHAHAHAH

I like this server

average renodx modder's experience with Widnows SDR content

gigachad sdr dwm fix

[wet crane]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-burning-my-eyes-spongebob-gif-5183364

[stiff quartz]

whats your guys' settings?

idk if its just me but preset 1 with the hdr look looks kinda washed out no?

[sturdy cloak]

Bottom of mod menu. You got a vanilla + and a HDR look preset.

Presets 1-2-3 are settings saving slots.

They don't come pre-adjusted in any particular fashion.

[stiff quartz]

is the fakehdr setting good too? or is it a personal preference thing

[midnight tide]

Lost both 50/50ies...This game surely is frustrating on that aspect

42k asterites vanished

[quick pawn]

is the new patch good?

[limber dune]

It has all the same problems WuWa has always had but the new region is pretty and it's fun to get around on the bike.

[limber dune]

I prefer the fakehdr setting over vanilla+ but it's definitely a personal preference thing

Vanilla+ is a little brighter at default but you can fine tune either to your preference

[stiff quartz]

on the reshade settings (the long list) youll see there an option HDR(fakeHDR)

[stiff quartz]

yeah

[red nebula]

yeah that's a reshade fx to imitate the hdr feel without actual HDR, don't use it

[stiff quartz]

are there any addons i need to disable/enable?

[proven comet]

I genuinly think the 50/50 is actually rigged in this game

[echo ridge]

Remember to use reshade with addons...

Disable autohdr methods

[wet crane]

is it just me or something is quite "off" with the HDR in the new region?

No matter how much I tinker with the settings, it never looks "right"

[midnight tide]

no way to say for sure without actual calcs but I have a strong feelingit is I won only 2 50/50 with nearly 2 years of playtime

[verbal schooner]

pretty disappointed with 3.0 so far, and seems like they aren't planning to deviate from the formula

[limber dune]

yeah, I'm kind of now just accepting that this is the kind of story they want to write since apparently PGR has the same problem

there's just nothing else that quite scratches the moment to moment to gameplay itch that it provides tho

also, is it a known issue that reno/reshade cuts off parts of the UI?

[echo ridge]

Except shorekeeper

But yea

Relax though

We'll go to huanglong at some point

[wet crane]

This is the most profitable formula so yea they are not going to change it

[verbal schooner]

my problem with it for this update is they really shafted the intro to the region, sidelined chisa story resolution in 5 seconds with optional dialogue and went straight into lynae character story

feels really rushed with barely any worldbuilding

in 2.0 we had carlotta phoebe zani and the troupe with brant and roccia so this feels really lacking in comparison

granted we still have the 2nd half to go but not a great start

[wet crane]

I kinda agree but Chisa is literally a side character

she went back to continue school

we will see her again during the big confrontation

or something probably

[wet crane]

the casette burning and Lynae's flashback cutscenes are really good

[vital moss]

Just accept the story is mid

Becomes more bearable

On the times they actually cook you can genuinely appreciate it

but don't expect it

[limber dune]

they got better after the abysmal 1.x storyline, but yeah, I've just come to accept that Kuro doesn't have any good writers or really any respect for their own characters past how well they perform on banners

good thing the game is just fun to play

[wet crane]

3.0 is just a companion quest masked as a main quest

its super short too, the new map is impressive, but the main quest is very very disappointing so far

[verbal schooner]

world scale 1.5x for new region

this was an issue before as well tbh

just stretched out even more with the map made for the bike

[limber dune]

yeah, Kuro has a really impressive ability to create really good maps that make sense and have a lot of interesting things to see but nothing to do in them lol - like they don't hide little things in the environment that unlock secret quests or anything but if you take the time to look at it, it's like a realistic setting - it's fascinating

[echo ridge]

what's the issue here

doors in games are always designed to be bigger vs. real life

[vagrant yew]

UI has been cut, do you have this issue?

[verbal schooner]

nah its the inconsistent sizes of objects, some make sense while others are way too big so the whole look is just incoherent

[glad mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[limber dune]

Yeah it seems to be removing the UID which also cuts off other UI elements that share the same space in other menus

[wet crane]

the new Dreamless tactical hologram is no joke

they introduced like 3 new mechanics you have to counter and the camera became an even bigger enemy

I can get it's life down to like 5% in Tier VI

but then se obliterates everyone xD

you have to doge 3 one hit kill attacks in a row then you have to run in circles doing nothing to doge the other attacks

they really want us to use the new vibration strength stuff

[astral dust]

hello guys what is the correct way of install renodx with xxmi, I follow some tutorial on youtube and after install the reshade addon mod-> paste the pathway of Reshade64.dll in the inject libraries, reshade doesnt load the addon because the Reshade file is too old I think, after that I change all the 3 reshade files of the Reshade addon mod with the newsest version of reshade and its loaded but the hdr doesnt work, its only changing some contrast, I try to install only renodx without xxmi and its worked normally

[rotund flume]

u mean the phase after she is down? just spam basic attack to deflect those spears instead of running around dont even try to time spam ba

she will come down after u deflect enough

[wet crane]

no I mean after that

[rotund flume]

oh ic not sure then i think 1 of mine died on 1 hit kill but then she died

[wet crane]

what team?

I had no trouble up until VI

She is very easy with the blind samurai guy they say

and with the Lynae + Xiangli Yao team

the Cartwheel team kills her in two rotations as long as you can land the second rotation xD

[tawny geyser]

Gonna try the latest pinned [fix ](#1411110125732892807 message)for the new version.

[echo ridge]

Number one, xxmi doesnt work with dx12
Number two, current version only has shaders for dx12

[astral dust]

hopefully we can use it someday

[limber dune]

for how tech forward Kuro is, I'm surprised they haven't implemented their own HDR solution yet

they got RT working on UE4 better than basically anyone else, but completely dropped the ball with HDR

[wet crane]

they are working on it

[limber dune]

I figured they had to be

I wonder if they're considering upgrading to UE 5 now that 5.7 seems to finally be a stable release - they said they were sticking with 4.26 just for stability but implementing all the advanced rendering features they want on 4 must be an assache

[rotund flume]

carte cia chisa s0r1

[echo ridge]

better than anyone else

LMAO

that was a good one

[limber dune]

I haven't seen a more performant UE4 RT title but I'm willing to be ignorant in this space

[echo ridge]

try something like

hogwarts legacy

was free on epic recently

even with ultra+ to make the game more demanding the game won't run nearly anywhere as bad

[limber dune]

interesting, I've only heard it's real bad without U+ - cool if it's good

[echo ridge]

as john wuther fucking waves

[limber dune]

idk it looks good and runs well for me 🤷‍♂️

[echo ridge]

it looks good

just not really performant when you have other games to look at

especially with how bad rt shadows was implemented

[limber dune]

oh, they definitely could improve performance for sure - I'm just coming from Jedi Survivor and Callisto Protocol where it's just atrocious

[echo ridge]

those also aren't as noisy

versus backported lumen

[limber dune]

I was wondering if that's what they did

[echo ridge]

yes that's what they did

and u can stop dreaming about ue5

we like to meme but they are only going to backport things from UE5

engine upgrade is too late at this point

when asked point blank they said they will consider porting features from UE5 rather than an upgrade

[limber dune]

we love Frankenstein engines here

[wet crane]

You are joking right? HW Legacy is the worst piece of shit when it comes to optimization and RT performance worse than Jedi Survivor

it stutters even with U+

Wuwa runs like a dream compared to HW Legacy

[echo ridge]

wtf

it runs so good for me

and the RT shadows look good

wuwa runs like crap

so much stutters compared to hoggy doggy

are you running hogwarts legacy at max settings or something

[wet crane]

near max yea

and u+

but the stuttering in hogwarts is not fixable afaik

except if you turn RT off

and the RT settings are bugged too

you have to restart the game every time you change something

[echo ridge]

Yeah but no where as worse

As john wutheringwaves

Rtao in hogwarts doesnt even work

[wet crane]

it does with U+

[echo ridge]

Nah

I tried

It still looks screen spaced

Anyways whereas hoggy doggy hovers at 45 55 ish

[wet crane]

it worked for me 🤷‍♂️

[echo ridge]

Cpu limited in hogsneade

The frame time graph

Is consistent

Vs john wutherstroke

Every time you turn the camera

[wet crane]

yea well it runs a lot better on my pc lol

[coral thorn]

Does it have dx11 support?

[echo ridge]

you have a higher end cpu yea i know

but relatively speaking hogwarts is not as erratic

its still bad

but its consistently bad

and better

with RT reflections and RT shadows

[wet crane]

yea it runs like shit all the time haha

[echo ridge]

i turned off RTAO

[echo ridge]

did u use the extra U+ settings lol

[wet crane]

I mean yea if I turn off settings then it runs good enough

[echo ridge]

like RT skylight and shit

[wet crane]

nah lol

that tanks performance even on a 5090

[coral thorn]

Damn, turned out reshade doesn't work with dx12 on proton linux

[echo ridge]

but yea i guess your x3d scales better with wuwa i guess?

[coral thorn]

And novidya broke RT on linux

[wet crane]

yea idk, the new region runs better than septimont and honami

[coral thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296206687858065433/1441719739729575936/zhaodamianstomp.gif

[echo ridge]

i've never experienced a constant 60 with these new regions

with rt on

sloppa

B850 ITX was on sale recently

but these ram prices

[wet crane]

decently stable 90 fps here even in combat

[echo ridge]

well combat is decidedly

[wet crane]

the GPU usage while exploring the map is 60-80%

[echo ridge]

less intense than the open world ue4 spawning new character stutter

[wet crane]

it can reach almost 100% during intense combat

[wet crane]

yea thats unavoidable

[echo ridge]

anyways outside of that though

hoggy looks better

muh RT soft shadows

[wet crane]

yea the castle looks better

the open world not so much

if you mean RT quality then yea ofc

[echo ridge]

open world is kinda standard

but everything in the hogwarts school

is just

gyatt damn

[wet crane]

it looks really good with U+

[echo ridge]

plus support for ray reconstruction

you can enable that in wuwa but ehh

[wet crane]

its buggy as hell and tanks performance tho

[echo ridge]

huh

it works for me i think

oh

you mean wuwa RR

yeah

[wet crane]

no

HW RR

well both games

[echo ridge]

hogwarts RR seem to work for me

from checking the dorm mirrors

[wet crane]

it works but

it causes heavy smearing in dark areas even with the new model

plus it tanks performance

but reflections look a lot better yea

[echo ridge]

on a side note

[wet crane]

the U+ RR is better thats true

[echo ridge]

there's a lot of pre rendered cutscene

in this new story

[wet crane]

if you turn off in-game RR and turn on U+ RR

[echo ridge]

where is my real time cinematic experience

[wet crane]

mobile players…

[echo ridge]

aren't you supposed to have it on

[grave tiger]

the only way to get a somewhat good experience in wuwa is to get a 9800x3d lol

[wet crane]

the last time I checked the U+ guide said to turn off in-game RR lol

[grave tiger]

with rt at least

[wet crane]

but that was a year ago or so

[echo ridge]

yeah the U+ description for hogwarts said there is RTGI

but in the inis there's no RTGI

only rtao

i think the ini is the correct one

[wet crane]

maybe they changed it

not sure

RTGI used to work

but it had issues

so everyone just used RTAO

issues = it was really slow lol

and it caused some kind of artifacting too cant remember

but I’m not going to reinstall HWL

back to wuwa, yea they decided to pre-render most of the cutscens

but the cutscene quality is good in. 3.0

[verbal schooner]

if only their story writing was as good as their cutscene direction

startorch academy is significantly more cpu heavy than septimont, i had to turn up fg from 3x to 4x

[shy gyro]

even more npcs and contents in the map

[limber dune]

Startorch itself is heavy as hell, but I've found the outer areas to be far more performant than Septimont outside the city, especially the plateau - that place is still wonky

[limber dune]

oh and I can recommend these ini tweaks - they clean up the visuals a bit while immproving performance slightly especially if you're using a lower powered machine https://github.com/AlteriaX/WuWa-Configs

[wet crane]

the academy runs better on my end