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[echo ridge]

Its not worse

[drowsy wolf]

so it is better or worst than those 2

[echo ridge]

Is it way better or really good?

No

Which is against your claim of the native version

Being "really good"

Which it isnt

[drowsy wolf]

thats the not question the question itself was it is better than those 2 even by a bit

[echo ridge]

Play it first next time please

[drowsy wolf]

that is whole question

ur trying to dodge the question by comparing to nothing

ofc u can compared it to renodx which ofc it will be worst than that

but im comparing it to autohdr without reshade and rtx hdr

[echo ridge]

your original claim that it was really good

to which i said it isn't

if you compare it to auto hdr / rtx hdr

its better

[drowsy wolf]

but what is really good to u ?

[echo ridge]

but barely

still dogshit compared to reno

hhence why i said

absolute dog

[drowsy wolf]

u cant expect everyone to download reshade

reshade is mod is not something that people can just enable it

[echo ridge]

are you fighting shadows

my claim is that the native hdr implementation on ps5 is dog

[drowsy wolf]

or seriously comparing a mod with a risk of ban to autohdr and rtx hdr

[drowsy wolf]

right but ur comparing it to renodx

buddy

[echo ridge]

^

[drowsy wolf]

is renodx on ps5?

[echo ridge]

^

^

you can compare it to

any other game

with a decent implementation

anyways

have you played the native version on ps5?

?

the video you linked is still the PC version btw

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

thanks for answering

[drowsy wolf]

no?

[drowsy wolf]

yea thats the point

im not gonna compared ps5 to pc

and u cant compared renodx to ps5?

since it cant even run there?

is like ur comparing a mac to windows without game that doesnt even support mac

atleast make a fair comparison

[echo ridge]

you're working in a fales premise in the first place

there is no native version

so no one can understand

what you're on

in the first place

[drowsy wolf]

? there is

wait

[echo ridge]

what native version

[drowsy wolf]

is ps5 not have hdr

answer ?

or u dont count ps5 a native hdr support

[echo ridge]

see now why are you bringing up ps5 now

[drowsy wolf]

ur comparing a mod

to official;

btw

make that make sense

[echo ridge]

i said it is dogshit

if i dont want to use

renodx as a comparison

i can use

other games

[drowsy wolf]

yea because ur comparing it to renodx?

[echo ridge]

with good implementation

[drowsy wolf]

buddy

ur literally

[echo ridge]

do you understand

[drowsy wolf]

comparing it to a mod

[echo ridge]

that im saying that it is dogshit

[drowsy wolf]

are u ok?

right

[echo ridge]

even before renodx existed

for this game (zzz)?

do you understand you can say something is bad

[drowsy wolf]

u literally said is better than autohdr and rtx hdr

now u say is dog shit

great

[echo ridge]

without comparing it to anything else?

[drowsy wolf]

and just because u say is bad

doesnt mean is bad for other people

[drowsy wolf]

u were literally compared to renodx

lmfao

[echo ridge]

i can make the same statement

without comparing it to renodx

because that was not my point

and its likely you have not even seen ps5 footage

if you can say that it's good

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

but wasnt my question about compared to something u can just activate like windows autohdr and rtx hdr it is better ?

wasnt that the question

LOLK

haha

[echo ridge]

i dont care about that?

[drowsy wolf]

u took 20 years to answer saying it is a bit better

[echo ridge]

my only purpose here is to say

that its shit

why are you bringing up auto hdr

and rtx hdr here

[drowsy wolf]

wasnt that the question?

[echo ridge]

this is the only thing i am responding to

[drowsy wolf]

lmfao

[echo ridge]

who gives a shit about your obsession

with auto hdr

and rtx hdr

[drowsy wolf]

^

lol

k

wtv

haha

[echo ridge]

see this is why you're fighting shadows

i'm here saying the native version looks shit

[drowsy wolf]

i mean wtv u saying it better than autohdr and rtx hdr but somehow u think is dog shit

ur somehow fighting your own statements

[echo ridge]

is a 4/10 better than a 3/10?

but still dogshit?

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

then what is 10/10 ?

thats native

btw

give me a 10/10

haha

[echo ridge]

yes the native implementation is shit

[drowsy wolf]

give me a 10/10 in native

lets jsut compared native support

[echo ridge]

alan wake 2?

easy 9/10 at least

[glad mauve]

1000 nit UI

[echo ridge]

please look at the footage of zzz hdr on ps5 before going any further down this line

thanks

[glad mauve]

Gatchas are never beating the dogshit native HDR allegations

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it's-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159

[echo ridge]

bro sucking on a native implementation that he has never seen

[drowsy wolf]

i mean if ur gonna compared in ps5 for alan wake try it in ps5 and it is not even that good btw

[drowsy wolf]

sucking ?

i was purely answering ur saca?

u took 20 years to answer a simple question

[glad mauve]

ok ok ok chilll both of you

[drowsy wolf]

and is an simple yes or no

btw

[echo ridge]

alan wake 2 hdr is not good?

[glad mauve]

no need for this over gatchaslop

[drowsy wolf]

and u became like a us congressman

refusing to answer a simple question

btw

[echo ridge]

i already answer this here

[glad mauve]

I am out of here

[drowsy wolf]

wasnt that base on personal opinion?

[echo ridge]

you just somehow can't read

[drowsy wolf]

if u think is good

i can say is ok?

lmfao

[drowsy wolf]

u somehow couldnt answer a question btw

look at how many line it took u to answer a question

u were trying to dodge it

btw

haha

[echo ridge]

the consensus of people who implement hdr mods as well as many people who have looked at multiple games here?

it's your hot take if you want to say

it's not good

[drowsy wolf]

pretty sure is just u here rn?

or there is a ghost here that i cant see

[echo ridge]

i answered it but you still haven't answered mine

have you actually

looked

at

ps5

zzz hdr

footage

[drowsy wolf]

i already answered btw

if u just scroll up

u cant read apprently

l;mfao

pretty sure i said a fat no

but alright

[echo ridge]

then how are you so sure

[drowsy wolf]

some people are having difficulty reading it

[echo ridge]

it's better than auto hdr

and rtx hdr?

[drowsy wolf]

cause i played it ?

lmfao

i dont have to look up the footage

if i have it with me

hjahaha

lmfao

[echo ridge]

then why not answer yes

if you played the game

that means you have

looked

at

a

footage

[drowsy wolf]

u said

have u

looked up footage

of the hdr

footage

[echo ridge]

yea

[drowsy wolf]

u could have just said have u played on ps5?

[echo ridge]

it can be your footage

you know the point of the question

is to see whether you actually have any experience

with the hdr implementation on ps5 or not

[drowsy wolf]

no cause u were talking about the video thats on pc

and then u ask

have u look up footage of the console ?

[echo ridge]

if you want to find a way to nitpick my question

then ok

[drowsy wolf]

doesnt that mean a video?

since u were talking about the youtube video isend

u were arguing about the video spec

[echo ridge]

you can ask pretty much anyone on this or the hdr den server

[drowsy wolf]

ofc im gonna answer base on ur arguments

[echo ridge]

whether alan wake 2 hdr implementation is good

if you think it's not then u might need a reality check

[drowsy wolf]

when isaid is not good ?

buddy

i said is ok

haha

dude plz read

stop twisting my word

[echo ridge]

if alan wake 2 hdr is also just ok

yeah also need that reality check

[drowsy wolf]

oh so now u dont accept anyone opinions other than what u belief in right

so other opinion are trash only urs in good ?

if i say a good hdr looks ok is no good ?

[echo ridge]

im not asking you to ask my opinion

[drowsy wolf]

u just said

[echo ridge]

im asking you to query everyone else

[drowsy wolf]

base on ur opinion

[echo ridge]

hence reality check

[drowsy wolf]

zzz hdr is shit ?

[echo ridge]

it doesn't even have to come from me

[drowsy wolf]

so it is ur opinion

[echo ridge]

about alan wake 2 hdr

[drowsy wolf]

or ur speaking for someone else

[echo ridge]

on zzz hdr it is trash and yes it is my opinion and indeed i do indeed feel strongly about it

[drowsy wolf]

so if i say alan 2 hdr is ok

im wrong ?

but ur always right ?

[echo ridge]

i do indeed think your opinion is shit but you are entitled to them

since i saw what what settings you use for wuwa already

[drowsy wolf]

u saw what ur playing native btw

[echo ridge]

what are you even saying

[drowsy wolf]

what u saying what settings btw

ur so confuse

and btw alan wake 2 online people are saying some images are washed out

not sure where u get 9/10 from

but ok

[echo ridge]

anyone can look up whatever screenshots you posted and see for themselves

[echo ridge]

likely because they incorrectly calibrated

[drowsy wolf]

wait so out of the box

ur talking abopuit calibrating

ahh i see

hahaha

[echo ridge]

no

if they say the images are washed out

then they either

have incorrect calibration

or does not like

the art direction of the game

because if it is correctly calibrated

the hdr implementation of aw2 is excellent and faithful to sdr

[drowsy wolf]

what do u called a correctly calibrated>?

[echo ridge]

nothing wrong with the hdr implementation

[drowsy wolf]

even if it is calibrated people can still not like it ?

how do u know they didnt calibrated it correcly

and who decide the standard

u ?

so if some people doesnt like it some does do u only listen to people with the same opinion as u ?

[echo ridge]

they can still not like it, but it's completely unrelated to the hdr implementation?

are you... not understanding something?

[echo ridge]

^

[drowsy wolf]

buddy u read ? they can not like the hdr implementation ?

im talking about hdr

when did i ever say about art

ur the one that mention art

again

stop twisting my words

[echo ridge]

they can dislike it but it's almost certainly a them problem

people here have already analyzed the hdr implementation of aw2...

[drowsy wolf]

oh ok so whover doesnt think alan wake 2 hdr implementation is a 9/10 is their problem

isee

undestood

[echo ridge]

again the implementation has been analyzed here

the game does very little wrong vs the SDR transfer

if its washed out in HDR vs when you play in SDR

what's more likely to happen

[drowsy wolf]

u do realize 9/10 is close to being prefect right ?

[echo ridge]

is that your SDR reference was incorrectly calibrated in the first place

[drowsy wolf]

so ur calling alan wake 2 perfect

is that what ur saying

the pefect hdr implementation

?

so base on ur analyze it is a perfect hdr implementation

[wet crane]

the "perfect" HDR implementation is 1:1 SDR if SDR is correct, but people like different things

[echo ridge]

^

[drowsy wolf]

but he gave a 9/10 for hdr implementation

[echo ridge]

yes

[drowsy wolf]

so u dont think is perfect right ?

[echo ridge]

alan wake 2 has an excellent hdr implementation?

[drowsy wolf]

otherwise u wouldnt be giving such high score

[drowsy wolf]

excellent and close to prefection are far off

btw

excellent would be a 7

9 to 10 is perfection

[echo ridge]

LMAO

[drowsy wolf]

lmfao

[wet crane]

what

[echo ridge]

LMAO

[wet crane]

excellent is 8-9/10

[echo ridge]

this guy loves to redefine words whenever it fits him

[drowsy wolf]

same can goes to u

ur defining 9 as excellent

[wet crane]

AW2's HDR implementation is one of the best atm

[echo ridge]

yes because 9 is commonly known as excellent

[wet crane]

if not the best

[echo ridge]

if you think 7/10 = excellent maybe u need to ask more people what excellent means

[drowsy wolf]

9 is define as almost perfect btw

idk where u get excellent come from

[wet crane]

almost perfect is like 9.9 in my book

[echo ridge]

then where did you get 7/10 is excellent?

sir can you provide a source

[drowsy wolf]

then can u provide a source for 9 being only excellent ?

[echo ridge]

go google any 10 point score scale

show me one scale

where 7/10 is excellent

[drowsy wolf]

actually google said 9 is considering being close to perfect

is from google himself

lmfao

most people interpret 9/10 as outstanding, making it the definition of "almost perfect".

[echo ridge]

people are contesting your 7/10 = excellent

are you running away from your definition now

[echo ridge]

^^^^

[wet crane]

4-6 = mediocre
6-8 = good
8-9 = excellent
10 = perfect

imo

[drowsy wolf]

The Dutch Grading System (Contextual "Excellent")
While the Netherlands uses a strict 1–10 scale where 10 is "Outstanding," grades are notoriously deflated. A 7 is officially "Very Satisfactory," but in practice, it is often treated as a high-value grade comparable to an "A-" or "B+" in the US/UK, because 9s and 10s are almost never awarded.

10: Outstanding (Rarely given)

9: Very Good

8: Good (Often the practical "Excellent")

7: More than Satisfactory / Very Satisfactory

However, many international conversion tables (such as those used for study abroad programs) will equate a Dutch 7.0 or higher to a US A/A- or a UK First, acknowledging that a 7 is a difficult and excellent score to achieve in that specific academic culture.

dutch grading would prove u wrong

but alright

[echo ridge]

99 articles that disagrees with me

1 article that agrees with me

[drowsy wolf]

wait

[echo ridge]

"look guy this is irrefutable proof"

[drowsy wolf]

so u only want the source

that agrees with u

i see

[echo ridge]

no that's what you're doing

lol

[drowsy wolf]

btw

[echo ridge]

can't even understand sarcasm

[drowsy wolf]

england grading is also the same

how can u be this lost

ur trying to use reddit user

against me

[echo ridge]

that's what you're doing to dodge the conversation

[drowsy wolf]

The UK GCSE System (Grades 9–1)
In the current UK secondary education system, grades are given on a scale of 9 (highest) to 1.

Source: Ofqual (The Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation)

The Breakdown:

Grade 9: Exceptional (Higher than the old A*)

Grade 8: Excellent (Equivalent to the old A*)

Grade 7: Excellent / Very Good (Equivalent to the old A)

Why this fits: In this system, receiving a 7 or an 8 places you firmly in the old "A / A*" bracket, which is universally recognized as excellent.

Source Quote: "The bottom of a grade 7 is comparable to the bottom of the old grade A... Grade 8 is equivalent to a high Grade A*." — Ofqual, "GCSE 9 to 1 grades: a brief guide for parents"

2. UK University Degree Classifications
   As mentioned previously, the UK university system uses percentages where a 7 (70%) is the threshold for the highest possible classification.

Source: Most UK Universities (e.g., UCL, Oxford, Manchester)

The Breakdown:

70% – 79% (7.0 – 7.9): First-Class Honours ("Excellent")

80%+: Outstanding (Rarely awarded)

Why this fits: A score of 70 to 80 (7 to 8) is the standard range for a "First," which is the academic definition of excellence in the UK.

3. The "Notable" Grade in Spain (Contextual)
   In Spain, grades are 0–10.

Source: Spanish Ministry of Education / Nuffic

The Breakdown:

9–10: Sobresaliente (Outstanding)

7–8.9: Notable (Remarkable / Significant)

Context: While "Sobresaliente" is the literal translation of Outstanding, Notable (7–8) is widely considered a high-achievement grade, often converted to a B+ or A in US/UK conversions due to the difficulty of achieving a 9 or 10.

[echo ridge]

play by whatever definition you want

[drowsy wolf]

thats excaly what ur doing

[echo ridge]

i can also say alan wake 2 9/10

[drowsy wolf]

sending a screenshot

[echo ridge]

is perfect

[drowsy wolf]

of only

[echo ridge]

or almost perfect

[drowsy wolf]

what is agreeing with u

btw

u send a screenshot of website

of just waht is agreeing what u

most grading school

including

uk

dutch

china

canada

use 7 and 8

as excellent btw

ur not making any sense

in korea

[echo ridge]

this is not a 10 point grading system?

[drowsy wolf]

7 and 8

is consiering

[echo ridge]

see

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

dog shit btw

[echo ridge]

read your own source

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

yes?

it say 7 and 8 '

[echo ridge]

amazing self own btw

[drowsy wolf]

is considering excellent

read it properly

[echo ridge]

out of 9

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

Grade 8: Excellent (Equivalent to the old A*)

Grade 7: Excellent / Very Good (Equivalent to the old A)?

do the division yourself

not sure u understand math

[echo ridge]

please read your own source

it's a 9 grade scale

[drowsy wolf]

70% – 79% (7.0 – 7.9): First-Class Honours ("Excellent")

btw

[echo ridge]

not a 10 point grade scale

LOL

[drowsy wolf]

out of 10

can u read?

9–10: Sobresaliente (Outstanding)

7–8.9: Notable (Remarkable / Significant)

[drowsy wolf]

yea do the division

if 9 = 10 do the math now

[echo ridge]

i'm not talking about a 9 grade scale

why are you bringing a 9 grade scale here

[drowsy wolf]

what? u were literally arguing about this btw

[echo ridge]

^

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

did i ask you about a 9 grade scale

[drowsy wolf]

u brought this up btw

[echo ridge]

is my rating a 9/9

or a 9/10

7/9

or 7/10

[drowsy wolf]

buddy

u brought this arugment up btw

and are u just gonna ignore my other source

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

you brought it here first?

[drowsy wolf]

lmfao

ur using this arugment

and then saying

[echo ridge]

are you fighting shadows again

[drowsy wolf]

it dosent count

because is 9 /9

btw

self own

hahah

[echo ridge]

who started this excellent being a 7 btw

oh wait

you

[drowsy wolf]

wait

i though

ur the one that started it

saying 9 is excellent

who started it

oh wait

is u

again trying to twisted my words

btw

[echo ridge]

because it is?

[drowsy wolf]

so only ur right ?

the whole world

evolve around u

i get it

self centered

but ok

[echo ridge]

you realize two things can both be right at the same time right?

[drowsy wolf]

u do realize what u say

[echo ridge]

is that what you're doing

by saying

[drowsy wolf]

is irrelevant right

[echo ridge]

excellent is 7 btw

[drowsy wolf]

u dont decide

what is excellent

[echo ridge]

wait so do you?

[drowsy wolf]

arent u the one who started it

saying

9/10

is excellent

?

can u stop trying to put words into my mounth

[echo ridge]

i'm just repeating you verbatim

excellent is 7 btw

[drowsy wolf]

or did i starts saying 7/10 is being excellent

answer the question

who start saying 9/10 is excellent

ik u have a habbit of dodging question

but is pretty simple question

yes or no

[echo ridge]

because it is?

[drowsy wolf]

there u go

[echo ridge]

i don't get why you're so confused about this

[vital moss]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-even-know-what's-happening-marques-brownlee-i-don't-even-know-what's-going-on-right-now-i'm-so-lost-mkbhd-gif-823634153603799220

[drowsy wolf]

because it is lfmao

best answer possible

mf told me to find source then jsut says it is because i said it is

i own the world

lmfao

mf found me a source on reddit

to prove me wrong

is funny

[echo ridge]

so are you trying to say only 7/10 can be excellent?

or can 9/10 be excellent

[drowsy wolf]

arent u the only trying to say 9/10 can only be excellent

ur the one

that created this argument btw

u were saying

only 9 /10 can be excellent

[echo ridge]

that's you

[drowsy wolf]

thats u btw

against

twisting my word

[echo ridge]

i said 9/10 is excellent

and then we can just move on

[drowsy wolf]

and i said

7/10

is excellenmt

[echo ridge]

but u want to say 7/10 is excellent btw

[drowsy wolf]

again what do u not undestand

[echo ridge]

and waste time

[drowsy wolf]

right ?

isnt that the point ?

so just because u said 9/10 is excellent while providing u source saying 7/10 is excellent im wrong ur right ?

what gives u the bas the determine only u can be right ?

[echo ridge]

your source is not on a 10 point scale

[drowsy wolf]

scroll down

btw

out of 6 souirce i send

only one

[echo ridge]

and most grading system work on that a 7/10 is not excellent

[drowsy wolf]

was grading base on 9

so ur just gonna ig the fact

about other source

or u cant reaed

[drowsy wolf]

most grading

what do u determine by most grading

[echo ridge]

let's see

why dont we ask google this simple question

[wet crane]

excellent is either 8 or 9 imo

[wet crane]

10 is masterpiece
9 is outstanding

[drowsy wolf]

lmfao

ur using alphabetbtw

a b c d lmfao

[wet crane]

but why does it matter btw?

[drowsy wolf]

exacly 9 is outstanding ?

outstanding is different than excellent btw

u said it yourself

[echo ridge]

he wants to argue over definitions

instead of going back to the main topic of AW2

[drowsy wolf]

so ur saying outstanding and excellent have same meaning

yes or no

[echo ridge]

i could just rephrase my argument as alan wake 2 implementation being perfect and move on

[drowsy wolf]

buddy that is the topic

[echo ridge]

but im having fun with this guy

[drowsy wolf]

again trying to twist word

i dont get u

ur trying to hard to proove me wrong

yet u cant give me bas and ur only using ur personal opinion

answer the question

or u gonna dodge like a lil rat again

🙂

[echo ridge]

no

[drowsy wolf]

good boy

[echo ridge]

did i ever say outstanding and excellent is the same?

[drowsy wolf]

hahaha

[echo ridge]

or are you

hallucinating again

[drowsy wolf]

wait

when did i say u said that

i asked u a question

are u delusionalk

can i not ask a question

or ur so self centered

cant read anything

[echo ridge]

what is even the purpose of the question

just so you can drag this on even more?

[drowsy wolf]

because ur lil buddy said 9 is outstanding

and i asked u

like what

buddy u ok

why u keep trying to changed up subjet

everytime u lose an argument

is hilarious

[echo ridge]

that's what you're doing

[drowsy wolf]

ah

the also is what your doing

[echo ridge]

by asking about outstanding and excellent

[drowsy wolf]

kinda funny but alright

u just said is a different meaning

ur buddy

said it was outstanding

it wasnt even me

who said it btw

like again

[echo ridge]

so...?

[drowsy wolf]

ur trying to twist my word

god ur so funny

:0

[echo ridge]

anyone can backread the conversation

keep going bud

[drowsy wolf]

ofc they can

they cansee how many time ur trying to twist my word

and dodge simeple yes or no questions

but alright

[echo ridge]

yeah they can see how many times you try to go on side tangents and argue about definitions

[drowsy wolf]

yes they can also see how instanly switching up subjet everytime u lose an argument just like now

so areu gonna go back to the main subjet

or ur gonna keep dodging

[echo ridge]

i think you're the only one trying to switch up the subject at this point

[drowsy wolf]

still going

🙂

[echo ridge]

^

i was always willing to move on

[alpine kestrel]

Autohdr and rtx hdr are dogshit imo so being better than both isn’t enough to clear the bar for dogshit

[drowsy wolf]

^

seems like ur still mad about it though

[echo ridge]

no im still having fun with it as long as you wanna keep up with it

[drowsy wolf]

^

ok lil bro

[echo ridge]

yes

[drowsy wolf]

🙂

[echo ridge]

you can simultaneously enjoy it

[drowsy wolf]

ur going against yourself btw

[echo ridge]

while being willing to move on

those two sentences are not contradictory

[drowsy wolf]

ahh i see ur willing to move on and ur still trying argue

kinda

funny

[echo ridge]

unless you want to go on another side tangent

[drowsy wolf]

is like i attack another country while still attacking im telling the other country im willing to move on

is hilarious

how lil sense u make

😂

[echo ridge]

about how I can

1. both be willing to move on if the other party wants to
2. keep playing if the other party wants to

[drowsy wolf]

wait arent u the one that saying we can move on and then before i even said anything u decide to attack again?

ur being fuuny

[echo ridge]

do you know what "being willing to" means

[drowsy wolf]

so do u know u need to give people a chance to answer right

because attacking again?

how do u know i wasnt willing to just let go but instead u attack me because i even had a chance to answer

[echo ridge]

how is this an attack?

[drowsy wolf]

hjahahaha

ur being saca rn

but ok

are u willing move on?

i will give time to answer

[echo ridge]

fighting shadows again

but sure

lets move on

[drowsy wolf]

again

hahaha

u just proved my point

but ok

[echo ridge]

alan wake is a perfect

[drowsy wolf]

hahahah

[echo ridge]

9.96

implementation

[drowsy wolf]

i though we moved on?

but ok sure

anything u say is correct

i 100% agree with whatever u say

[echo ridge]

yes in the interest of playing by your definition i am saying AW2 has a perfect 9.96/10 implementation now

[drowsy wolf]

no no

i agree

[echo ridge]

thats what moving on means

[drowsy wolf]

i 100 % agree

[alpine kestrel]

looks like some form of autohdr to me

just insanely jacked up brightness

1000+ nits UI

sdr is better

[drowsy wolf]

idk someone here hada 4000 nits tv here

[echo ridge]

what are you even agreeing to

[drowsy wolf]

with a oled tv i think is ok

[alpine kestrel]

the uniformly high brightness here is the issue

[drowsy wolf]

i jsut agree about wtv say about hdr

ur always right

the end

[alpine kestrel]

it just looks like SDR with insanely high brightness

like red dead 1's hdr

the brightness slider goes to 6000+ nits but its just SDR scaled up to that brightness

[echo ridge]

the hdr implementation itself on ps5 isn't even proper

it clamps itself in certain areas

[drowsy wolf]

in dark area i think is fine i sometime like more rtx hdr at night in wuwa than renodx

in daytime it looks bad

[echo ridge]

yeah all that work for you to not even engage in the conversation

lmao

[drowsy wolf]

see ur trying to create an argument when u agree to move on

[drowsy wolf]

im already agreeing with wtv u say

but ur still

trying

so are u gonna move on or what

[alpine kestrel]

basically image 3 is what I see in that video but cranked up to an insane degree

[echo ridge]

do you understand moving on from a definitions argument

to go back to the original topic

[drowsy wolf]

i think u have a different definition

moving on mean u accept people with different opinion and stop arguing with someone to waste time

not sure

where u got ur definition from

[echo ridge]

thats called agreeing to disagreeing

[drowsy wolf]

also called just move on is not worth the time

hahaha

lmfao

[echo ridge]

is english your second language

[drowsy wolf]

If you both recognize you won’t see eye to eye and consciously decide to stop debating it, that’s basically agreeing to disagree.

are u ok

or ur being delu again

[echo ridge]

no

im asking a general question

[drowsy wolf]

no

anyway i gave u a definition

u have anythignt o say to it?

[echo ridge]

its not your second language?

[drowsy wolf]

is my no not big enough

NO?

this good enough>

and u gonna answer my question

[echo ridge]

so is it your first language

[drowsy wolf]

see ur trying to dodge the question again

like

i answered ur question

and now u dont answer mine

[echo ridge]

no im not interested in talking with you anymore until i get an answer

[drowsy wolf]

like

u always take 20 lines to answer a simple question

and then before answering it

ur trying to skip to another topic

just to avoid it

[echo ridge]

no

[drowsy wolf]

good boy

[echo ridge]

i dont have anything to say to anythting until you answer my question

[drowsy wolf]

someone cant read unfo

but ok

[echo ridge]

so is english your first language

[drowsy wolf]

is that different question u want the old question

[drowsy wolf]

^

pretty sure i already answered

[echo ridge]

yes u said no to that question

[drowsy wolf]

but alright

yes

[echo ridge]

if its not your second

then now im asking if its your first

[drowsy wolf]

yes

[echo ridge]

interesting

[drowsy wolf]

so u gonna ignore the definition because it proves ur wrong /

or ur only interested in things that ur right in

[echo ridge]

ignore what definition?

[drowsy wolf]

i dont have anything to say to anythting until you answer my question

[echo ridge]

yeah so what's the question

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yes what definition

???

[drowsy wolf]

scroll up lil bro 🙂

[echo ridge]

why dont u just link it

[drowsy wolf]

why u handicap?

[echo ridge]

im too lazy to bother

[drowsy wolf]

^ theres ur answer

[echo ridge]

so

what definition

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

we'd never know then

can't dodge something that I never saw

[drowsy wolf]

^ not u didnt see just too lazy 🙂

[echo ridge]

yes cause i got the answer to my question

if u dont want the answer to your question then sure

[drowsy wolf]

the difference between me and u is that im willing to give u an answer and scroll up myself ur just lazy

but alright

🤡

[echo ridge]

yeah cause i got my answer

there's really no reason for me to engage and scroll up anymore

if u want yours then link or repeat it back

else its okay

[drowsy wolf]

so u are selfish lmfao

nice one

👍

[echo ridge]

notice how there's only one person who's still

throwing

personal attacks here

[alpine kestrel]

[drowsy wolf]

notice how there is only one person avoiding the answer a question

[echo ridge]

im not avoiding the answer im just waiting for you to repeat or link it

[drowsy wolf]

notice how there is one person here that said he is lazy

[echo ridge]

yes

[drowsy wolf]

and due to being lazy

[echo ridge]

if you're really interested in getting the answer

[drowsy wolf]

he doesnt want to scroll up and answer the ques tion

i wonder

what do u call those people

[echo ridge]

you'd link it back

[drowsy wolf]

hahahah

🤡

[echo ridge]

or just

type it again

since you seem to know what your question was

[drowsy wolf]

u said yourself ur lazy

[echo ridge]

but you're more interested in throwing personal attacks

instead of just doing the simple thing

[drowsy wolf]

seems like someone is trying to twist my words again

[echo ridge]

of... repeating the question?

[drowsy wolf]

imagine finding so many excuse

because u said it yourself

your too lazy

to scroll upo

that an u issue

not mine btw

who do i have to bother with someone that said it himself

he is too lazy to scroll up

[echo ridge]

yes, im too lazy to scroll up but still willing to answer or accomodate whatever questions you have

if you're really interested in the answer you could have repeat it

5 minutes ago

but you just want to throw personal attacks

[drowsy wolf]

but again why it is my responsibility because of ur laziness

[drowsy wolf]

arent u the one crying saying that im not giving u the question when u admited saying is up there but im too lazy to scroll up

[drowsy wolf]

this is another question btw

not sure u gonna answer this one

but alright

[echo ridge]

it's not your responsibility its not mine either

its a simple request for accomodation

[drowsy wolf]

ah ok

[echo ridge]

by repeating the question

[drowsy wolf]

so is not my responsibility

[echo ridge]

to further the conversation

[drowsy wolf]

ok

ty

🙂

[echo ridge]

which you are refusing to do because you'd rather attack me than getting an answer

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yeah and im not answering your question until i know what the question is

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yes

there is a simple solution

repeat the question

get an answer

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yes then it looks like you're not interested in getting an answer

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yes

you could also put a ^ on your question btw

but again we know what your priorities are

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

yes

keep going

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

indeed

If only someone could tell me what the question was

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

indeed

You're taking up a lot of effort to scroll up and put my words back down here

Keep going

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

Yeah keep going you're using up a lot of valuable time

And here i am

Not having to scroll up

[drowsy wolf]

^

[echo ridge]

good boy

[drowsy wolf]

^

😆

[echo ridge]

good boy

[clear holly]

Was this in the game settings directly ? With DX12
I tested DLSS in DX12, and haven't seen any HDR toggle lol...

DX12 was removed either way..

[grave tiger]

this is clearly itm, there is no native hdr on pc

[clear holly]

I am 99% certain there was no "HDR" toggle when the WIP DX12 version was available

Also this video doesn't show the game settings, and the UI is blinding, so yeah, ITM 100%

[grave tiger]

There wasn't, I used dx12 when it worked

[clear holly]

So this guy is making fun of wuwa for not having HDR, while showing RTX HDR lol

Gacha fans, can't compliment their gacha without insulting the other gachas

Not like there's even anything to glaze about zzz on the technical side compared to wuwa anyway

Both run relatively bad
Zzz still hasn't dlss

[echo ridge]

it makes more sense if u see what kind of settings he uses

just search up any screenshot posted by him

[clear holly]

Bt.2020 expansion ? Hahah

Ah the gooner mods

Ngl I would use mods too, but to give more clothes to Iuno and the like 😆

"but being a slut is in her lore!!!"

[echo ridge]

gooner mods is like whatever, let a man enjoy his gooning sesh

im talking about the kind of shadow crush that would put rtx hdr to shame

[clear holly]

Nothing useful was ever created or thought of during a gooning sesh 😆

Maybe he's watching SDR movies with "ITM 😎" too lol

I did watch some stuff with dolby vision on my AW3225QF that supports it
But windows only support DV profile 5 (streaming), not bluray (profile 7) ...
Time to buy a 200$ android tv box 🤢 or live with the hdr10 (and probably crushed highlights bc 1000 nits -> 400 nits)

Not interested in buying a tv, for now

[glad mauve]

bro

I busted a shit

made food

and helped or atleast tried to help two new users

[drowsy wolf]

making fun where u find that lil bro

[drowsy wolf]

idk if u can read but didnt we said ps5 ?

[drowsy wolf]

are u delusional just like the other dude

[drowsy wolf]

atleast find one sentence which i insult wuwa

[alpine kestrel]

zzz's native hdr is probably even worse than rtx hdr

[echo ridge]

sdr movies scale pretty well with itm tbh...

up to a certain point and depends on how the movie was graded

[echo ridge]

lot of the UI aka iconography is clamped

Only gameplay session ( not even all of them) gets hdr

[alpine kestrel]

when did zzz add hdr

this video is from a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnkc1Ug70cQ

[echo ridge]

Since launch it has it

The implementation is so bad i dont think people notice it had hdr in the first place

[alpine kestrel]

could be real hdr

but broken in other ways

[glad mauve]

always had it (HDR rendering)

[echo ridge]

Its real, just broken

well not even broken just bad

[clear holly]

who cares about ps5

[alpine kestrel]

halved the brightness in this pic

[drowsy wolf]

now is who cares about ps5

for sure

[clear holly]

I thought you were talking of PC
So yeah I really don't care, not interested in starting an unhinged one-sided rant with you, I don't have spiwar time lol

[echo ridge]

[echo ridge]

i could probably dig a native image with hdr analysis

but the conversation was so long ago and cant remember the keywords atp so prob not gonna bother

but yea its real

nevermind

i remembered the keyword

one of the areas that was clamped even on the ps5

[glad mauve]

whats up with the bottom of that graph

[drowsy wolf]

oc u cant since u werent in the right subjet

[echo ridge]

no idea not even my picture

[glad mauve]

graph looks scuffed af

[echo ridge]

its early days of hdr analysis shader

this was in 2024 prob

[alpine orchid]

I love you guys, but calling any game's native hdr decent in this server starts wars

[alpine orchid]

Honami City looks really incredible in wuwa

although the stutters are crazy

[verbal schooner]

preload is up

[burnt oyster]

looks good ?

[echo ridge]

embed a smaller video here

[midnight tide]

never seen such a shitty debate my whole life

@wet crane was just passing by giving his take and then vanishing like nothing happened i cant

AW2 HDR implementation is one of the best we've seen in video games btw it's commonly agreed on

I dont even care about ZZZ so I haven't checked if there was really a native HDR but guess not

[burnt oyster]

vp9

hope this isn't compressed too much

[wet crane]

https://youtu.be/PtwtqTqVB3o?si=n0qRwJkhGuZgpXjv

I want that brown haired cooler Lynae lol

[midnight tide]

short hair = skip

[sturdy cloak]

Male + long hair = pull😍

Besides. tomboys are cool

[midnight tide]

I've never seen tomboys doing good in gacha nor character with short hairs

I guess it depends right

genshin has a lot of short hair character like yelan

[wet crane]

colorful highschool girl = skip haha

[midnight tide]

that's fair tbh

[wet crane]

and her toy guns look ridiculous 😩

[midnight tide]

I prefer her original design 1000 times more

[wet crane]

yea that was better

[midnight tide]

why kuro

that was so good

[wet crane]

screams kpop tho

which I also dont like haha

[midnight tide]

I mean since you clearly have a high school theme you gotta make some sacrifice at some point

[wet crane]

yea like you change the high school
theme

[midnight tide]

they want to surf on the persona hype

it's understandable

[wet crane]

but the robots acting strange and the pink haired girl helping them through messages is interesting

[midnight tide]

let's see what they've been cooking with the story

you never know, next time I see you, you're glazing the story

[vital moss]

Pretty hyped myself 2.x as a whole was a skip

[midnight tide]

How could you skip the peak of wuwa ?

Objectively speaking

[vital moss]

Those are pretty big words

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-grumpy-try-not-to-laugh-gamer-gif-12435949962407938232

[midnight tide]

I mean until 2.0 wuwa had a bunch of problems that needed to fixed

There are still a lot but way less than before

[vital moss]

Are we talking theme or game

[bleak light]

in 2 days

[bleak light]

probably never then

[midnight tide]

just the overall game, but if we're talking about theme

I can definitly agree with you

1.x overall theme and vibe was far superior imo

[vital moss]

That's what I meant

[midnight tide]

then I agree

but tbh the 3.0 theme isnt going to be better if we compare it to 1.x

[wet crane]

theme wise 1.x was peak but 3.0 does not look that great tbh

we are going back to huanglong in 3.6 tho

but skipping 2.x is weird

that's Lynae and never

[echo ridge]

Isnt that like, just your opinion though /s

[echo ridge]

Most of the 3.0 chars have been looking quite mid

[wet crane]

me too, but it's not just a skin but a whole different person, we are not getting it unfortunately

[wet crane]

yea...

[echo ridge]

More to save for the federation arc or whatever they call it

Cyberpunk collab

[midnight tide]

Lets see what they’re gonna do with that

Because im not convinced we’re going to see 1.x vibes in the future

[echo ridge]

Maybe we will

The wandering swordsman cultivator guy we had

And his quest

Was def 1.x vibe

[midnight tide]

The original intro song was so peak

[midnight tide]

This is true yes

But it does fit the character tho

[echo ridge]

Hopefully they use the chars they made for the region

Jinhsi changli etc

[midnight tide]

that would be awesome, some of them need more love lore wise

but because the wanderer is a character from the 1.x era I doubt his quest is enough to let us hope

[sturdy cloak]

Really ? I'm not in it for the gooning, but I still think people should expand their goonable range. Tomboys are cute, and will die on that hill. That said, I tend to be more sensitive to drip than cute. Cool warriors like Jiyan and Qiuyan tend to be more up my alley.

[midnight tide]

Not that it matters but are you a dude or not ?

[wet crane]

I only play wuwa for the combat and the cool environments/graphics tbh

[midnight tide]

I play for the combat and the story