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[drowsy wolf]

Im out rn I'll text u when im back

[sullen hawk]

no I use native FG

[echo ridge]

also why is @drowsy wolf dumping shaders and not @foggy mica

[frosty gulch]

Question

Have you guys noticed a different between Raytracing on and off

[echo ridge]

@foggy mica

I told you

these are already patched

[drowsy wolf]

i cant dump the rest cause i dont have a controller

[sullen hawk]

yes, my frames die. kidding aside, the differences are there - they're quite clear to see, but whether or not the performance hit is worth it remains the biggest question. in my view, if I had the bandwidth - I would play with this order of importance RTGI, RTR, and then RT Shadows. Not going to lie, I typically don't notice shadows unless they're bad. GI, I quite like because of the warmth of RT lighting. RTR - also nice, but YMMV as the reflections don't always feel realistic because of how crisp they are.

[tawny geyser]

I just keep Ray tracing disabled entirely in my game because there's always an ugly black "blur shadow" following my character under bright lighting.

[echo ridge]

sup

wot

F5 doesn't work when reshade is opened

does take a snapshot when it's not opened

but yes

it does work

yeah

useful

@foggy mica @drowsy wolf use this to dump dx11 shaders

which option u talking about here

ah

is it the arrow thing

kk

shoudl be helpful cuz @drowsy wolf doesn't have a controller

so he couldn't dump shader since reshade blocks keyboard when UI is opened

lol

[dusty tiger]

Apparently you can set game color grading back to pre 2.7.

[echo ridge]

what are you talking about

[dusty tiger]

https://alteriax.github.io/WuWa-Config-Info/color-settings/

[echo ridge]

yeah this is why i asked

this lets you use the old color setings MENU

not restore pre-2.7 color grading

[dusty tiger]

Hmmm...
The wording makes it sound like it is more than just a menu change.

I'm away for the weekend so I cant test.

[echo ridge]

the word says old color settings

and if you check the site

it is just literally the menu

for you to slap on the old color settings menu value

[dusty tiger]

Right. Be he talks about how the new one doesn't work on the character screen and stuff too.

[echo ridge]

yes

[dusty tiger]

So it sounds like its the color shader in general

[echo ridge]

previously it was color settings + global filters

now they removed color settings

and only let you use global filters

global filters doesn't apply to cutscenes

hence

why this exists

[dusty tiger]

You have to edit the database.
Instructions lower on the site page

[echo ridge]

sounds like they just hid the old settings to simplify things

something something devs listen so if ppl complain enough they'll bring it back

[echo ridge]

yeah

reno offers this and more

[drowsy wolf]

@echo ridge can you teach me tmr how to do the rest ? Since now I can do it

[echo ridge]

it's the same as I already tought u

you just need to press snapshot

when the clamping is happening

draw undraw, find that shader

[subtle timber]

Hi everyone, when I using the latest version of the RenoHDR, the color saturation of the entire game screen instantly drops every time Shorekeeper performs the final segment of her normal attack, returning to normal after about one second. Has anyone else encountered this issue?

[wet crane]

What’s RenoHDR? The Temu version of RenoDX?

DX12/11?

[subtle timber]

Sorry its RenoDX😆 I'm using DX12

[wet crane]

I will check it later, it's probably clamped

[subtle timber]

Thanks👌

[crystal thistle]

@halcyon meteor

Seems like Augusta ult is clamping, when she picks up her sword

Her big sword

[grave tiger]

hey, dunno if its only for me but using the options below like hdr look and then switching to reset all makes the game crash with a fatal error

[drowsy wolf]

oh ok

[subtle timber]

You don't need to worry about this issue anymore. Although I'm not sure why, it seems to have disappeared in the new version of your addon64 file...

[drowsy wolf]

Can you give me the list u have @echo ridge

[drowsy wolf]

and how tf do u guys get the ult

u recharge it every time ?

[clear holly]

Oh mb lol

[drowsy wolf]

@echo ridge and do u need to dump character twice for septi and and huanglong ?

[drowsy wolf]

and are all the resonator skill the same shader cause i dump each one and i only see one in the binary'

[foggy mica]

yap

@drowsy wolf what shaders did you manage to get?

[drowsy wolf]

i got the skill for septi and huanglong and also map those 2

i didnt get any ult

can u do that>?

[foggy mica]

didn’t he give you the list?

[drowsy wolf]

no

[foggy mica]

oh let me find it

[drowsy wolf]

ok

@halcyon meteor this is what i have

[foggy mica]

https://app.capacities.io/home/7c977812-cc3d-4148-9676-0e99b045c1cf

[drowsy wolf]

so what do we have

lutbuilder are fine right

since it says patched rn

[foggy mica]

@drowsy wolf you do not need to get every character and every skill, just what the list says, also if the same shader is shared by more just try one of them to get it

like shader 3

[drowsy wolf]

Jinzhou, login screen
Output shader 2 (0x58BA5B18)
Boss fight area, Lioness of Glory
Output Shader 3 (0xCB3D001F)
Changli's E i got those 3 pretty sure

[foggy mica]

nice :3

[drowsy wolf]

which part u want to those we can split it

lmfao

[foggy mica]

are you now on PC?

[drowsy wolf]

yea

and wtf is sk final basic

nvm i already got that

[foggy mica]

shader 4 is shared by thous 4 you got it already

yeah

[drowsy wolf]

i didnt do shader 5

[foggy mica]

try to get them all as a form of practice? or if you do not have time i can log in and try

[drowsy wolf]

since i didnt do any ult

[foggy mica]

yeah thous you go to do them as it is

go around fill ult then try to capture

:3

[drowsy wolf]

isnt it better to wait for wuwano to patch the initial shader so i can see if i fuck up something ?

[foggy mica]

oh yeah, you got the output shaders no?

[drowsy wolf]

yea

[foggy mica]

ok, then yeah :3 we wait for the patch so we can see clearly what clips

[drowsy wolf]

and septimont and huanglong use different shaders for skill and ult right ? so i have to do it twice?

[foggy mica]

no

[drowsy wolf]

cause pretty sure for lupa i needed to do twice

[foggy mica]

that is the lut builder

[drowsy wolf]

ok

[foggy mica]

i don’t see in the list lupa as a shader?

plus ain’t lupa story quest locked? after her quest?

[drowsy wolf]

like if i use skill in huanglong and in septi when i was on lupa it uses a different shader for me

[foggy mica]

oh

i only tried what’s on the list

lets see after the patch if there is more cliping then we can add it to the list

i do not have lupa so i coudn’t try all the char in different regions

did you got galbrena?

[drowsy wolf]

nope

73 pity

lost 50

[foggy mica]

uff

[drowsy wolf]

with a 15% of winning 50 on my acc

btw

[foggy mica]

XD I’m 0%

[drowsy wolf]

lmfao

[foggy mica]

but i didn’t pull much

[drowsy wolf]

im starting to doubt if the game is rigged

i played since lauch

[foggy mica]

i have SK carlotta Iuno and Augusta

[drowsy wolf]

i did carlot e

didnt do augusta

[foggy mica]

click draw for that and turn back to changli and do her E you will see is the same shader

or is it not? cuz if you dump that it should be the same shader that you dump from changli E

[drowsy wolf]

yea pretty sure it is

i didnt know that

so i did for each character then i realize is just one shader

lmfao

[foggy mica]

i should had show you XD when it says shader 4 you can see 4 places where you can get that one shader XD

so it’s not too much to get

[drowsy wolf]

ok when wuwano patch it we can split the work for character

[foggy mica]

yeah no issues, now it depends if the patch is done in like 2-3 hours cuz tomorrow i got work

:3

[drowsy wolf]

ok no worry

[wet crane]

Post process AutoHDR vs RenoDX

bloom is obviously reduced with RenoDX 😄

I'm testing gamma correction 2.2 again

😄

blues looks okay after a little tinkering

Gamma correction off vs 2.2

[midnight tide]

do you have a screenshot of your settings por favor ?

[wet crane]

which?

[midnight tide]

your current one

[wet crane]

I'm still testing gamma correction but sure

[midnight tide]

I mean the one you're currently using outside of testing

[midnight tide]

thx

[wet crane]

I'm not using anything atm, I'm testing xD, but I like to use my vanilla+ preset

[drowsy wolf]

ok ty

@foggy mica he patched the initial one u want to split the rest?

[midnight tide]

why does it change from version to version ?

because of new shaders ?

[wet crane]

I'm testing gamma correction 2.2

the old preset should look the same, but I want to improve it

Gamma correction off vs 2.2

the colors are better with 2.2

especially in shadows

it's still a litte too dark sometimes

[midnight tide]

You werent kidding when you said you were a purist

💀

[wet crane]

this sewer area is the best, the lighting is static, nothing changes, one of the perfect testing spots lol

[midnight tide]

story was pretty good, still wouldn't call it 10 out of 10, let alone 9 more like à solid 7.5

[wet crane]

I agree

[echo ridge]

Because he didnt fucking update

Shorekeeper is one of the first characters i dump

[wet crane]

Why did the chicken cross the road? BECAUSE YOU DIDNT FUCKING COOK IT!

[echo ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-raw-its-fucking-raw-gordon-ramsay-raw-raw-fish-gif-23700556

Should add a big note for that initial version that it doesnt have all the shaders next time

I dont know how many ppl downloaded expecting everything to work

[echo ridge]

Will send, and no

Everywhere is shared

Except for fabricatorium of the deep

The porche guy area

Where you will have to dump a few extra shaders

Oh wait raven already sent

[verbal schooner]

phrolova liberation still seems to be clamped

[drowsy wolf]

@echo ridge can u do shader 7 for me

i cant find it

ty

[echo ridge]

Its the vanilla+ preset button atm the bottom lol

[echo ridge]

Yes

Noticed it

Split second

Yesterday

Will do it after i get lunch

[echo ridge]

Shader 7 rover aero ult or cantarella's ult

Dont tell me u dont have aero rover

Those two r the easiest cause you just need to press ult

[drowsy wolf]

let me try again

[wet crane]

No eating only dumping shaders!

[verbal schooner]

how do you even grab the split second ones, can't pause game to check

[drowsy wolf]

for the rover it is like the white line ?

cause i dont see any image

[echo ridge]

You time it 😭

The easy ones take like 30s to do

The split second ones take like 3-5 minutess depending on how hard it is to capture 😭

Sometimes u get lucky and find another character that trigger the same shaders but it happens for longer

Yeah that makes it a bit easier

[verbal schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/773712547244277811.webp?size=64&name=korenaNaruhodo

[drowsy wolf]

@echo ridge how do u get shader 18?

and output 19 for augusta which ult it is

@halcyon meteor only missing 18 and 19 idk how to get those

[echo ridge]

for 19 tell @foggy mica to get it he has augusta

for 18 i really dont know if that iuno story area you can return to after the quest is over, @verbal schooner thoughts

[echo ridge]

that blowout on the edge of iuno's hair 💀

[drowsy wolf]

ok

[echo ridge]

well this is new

windows defender thinks devkit is a virus now

• phrolova extra shader during ult

@halcyon meteor

that F5 key does make timing easier

[drowsy wolf]

i wish it could be a mouse key

cause i have a 60% keyboard

[wet crane]

the pink raw skin with your preset

[echo ridge]

it's rare

raw skin is bt.2020

[wet crane]

I switched to bt .2020 and my eyes bled

[echo ridge]

i feel like u could fix that blowout on the hair by seting the blowout slider to 0

strength 100 scene grading doesn't need that blowout slider tbh

it already has a ton of blowout of its own

and that slider doesn't affect skin so still works with what you're going for

[wet crane]

the blowout slider is needed to fix the weird VFX posterization/color inverting artifacts unfortunately

which hue shift causes

you can't really notice the issue during gameplay but I know that it's there xD

[echo ridge]

hue shift causes too much artifact past 50 in your setup

maybe worth exploring dialing it back to 50

and working around that

[wet crane]

I tried

haha

btw lowering the blowout slider to 0 did not change Iuno's hair

[echo ridge]

damn ok

let me try

how do you get her hair

to that color

[wet crane]

I could fix everything with lowering the grading strength

but I don't want to do that

[wet crane]

vanilla + preset

or use this #1411110125732892807 message

[echo ridge]

no i mean

what moves do you use

i have iuno lv90 but i never touched her

lol

[wet crane]

I'm going to update the preset soon btw

[echo ridge]

ok

just iuno skill twice

[wet crane]

gamma correction 2.2 looks nice now

[echo ridge]

this works

but

its not blowout

its our favorite buddy

hue shift

set hue shift to 0 and try again

probably need a better hue shift processor if there is one in the future

[wet crane]

hue shift 0 is like when you want to go to the beach but a sudden storm ruins your plans

[echo ridge]

hue shift artifacts are so annoying to me so i can spot it immediately

[drowsy wolf]

is there a way to add a custom key like a setting for it

[wet crane]

you are actually loosing all colors with hue shift 0

except if you lower grading strength

[echo ridge]

but you're getting color artifact with hue shift

esp in SK

[echo ridge]

i have hue shift 100 with my preset

[drowsy wolf]

ok

[echo ridge]

but bc grading already 50 so hue shift doesn't have as strong of an effect

[wet crane]

yea but I don't like your preset xD

I can't actually do what I want because the hue processor is not great yea

[echo ridge]

i don't like yours either

🤝

[echo ridge]

yea

[wet crane]

you can fix one issue but that causes another

[fallen roost]

oh let me push that fix darktable

[echo ridge]

its really noticeable whenever i use your preset

SK skill

the neon colors look pretty weird

[wet crane]

that's actually so random

I tested it in SDR!

and the artifacts are there sometimes

that's more of a VFX issue I think

[fallen roost]

there's a new gamut compressor so sdr should eventually look less funky with bt2020 colors

[wet crane]

or LUT issue, it depends on the location

[echo ridge]

nah its the hue shift issue

your neon shift a little bit too yellow

lemme see if i can screenshot

[wet crane]

I knwo what you mean

i spent a day testing SK

I made like 1000 screenshots

xD

[echo ridge]

yeah

[wet crane]

Camellya is even worse

I mean carlotta

her ground slam attacks look horrible

but those flashes only last for about 0.2 second

really hard to notice

[wet crane]

this is not even bad btw, I can show you worse lol

[echo ridge]

but yea bette hue shift should make it better

in the mean time

shameless plug

for my preset

[wet crane]

ti actually depends a lot on the LUT too

there are high contrast locations where it's actually yellow

and there are low contrast locations where it looks normal

visual effects with your preset can look unnatural imo, very out of place, it kinda depends on the location too, mine have hue shifting and other issues and ofc colors are not actually 100% correct with any of the presets, but gamma correction 2.2 helps

[echo ridge]

it looks fine to me yea

we can agree to disagree

and still hate on bt2020

[wet crane]

yea ofc xD

my biggest issue with lowering grading strength, with no complete fix, is the weird skin colors

she is turning pink

[fallen roost]

skin is pink though

[wet crane]

not ShoreKeeper's

[fallen roost]

probably washed out per channel stuff

[echo ridge]

it is kinda all pink

I don't really get a jarring feeling

when moving from

pre-rendered cutscenes

into real time

[wet crane]

if you turn off scene grading then the underlying texture is pink yea

[echo ridge]

because in pre-rendered character skins are pink

just lighter pink

pre-rendered

[wet crane]

those awful 2.7 prerendered videos?

[echo ridge]

pre rendered

[wet crane]

but this is Iuno

[fallen roost]

yeah, probably per channel, since that blue looks blown out as well

[wet crane]

these are real time btw

[echo ridge]

this is real time

im comparing with pre-rendered

and the skin being pink ish is expected

I think you're getting hung up on some of SK's 2D art

which depicts it as white

when any 3D pre rendered stuff has all the character skin as pink

[fallen roost]

basically all film is per channel, which acesv2 is trying to change

it's why games are as broken as they are in HDR

because they copied film/video

except film has broken cameras as well, with LUTs to fix them, so it balances it out

[wet crane]

pinkish would be fine

[echo ridge]

sk pre-rendered

[wet crane]

yea that looks fine

[fallen roost]

it depends on the reason. pink because grading and pink because texture are two different things.

a lot of time art is done in normal midgray in photoshop/editing suite, then get borked because UE's tonemapper

do they go back and then re-edit the character models/textures because UE? or do they just say whatever and leave it?

UE will hue shift shadows and highlights when it does its lighting, but character models are usually done in neutral lighting

[wet crane]

and in anime/gacha games the character models are excluded from almost all lighting/shadow calculations

[echo ridge]

then skin is not too pink though

[fallen roost]

yeah, 2D assets at times. sometimes the disconnect between the cardboard cutouts and in-engine can be pretty noticeable

[wet crane]

not everywhere that's my issue, the game never looks the same at two different locations if you lower the scene grading

It looks awesome at one location and it looks weird at the next

[echo ridge]

so whats one location where it looks weird

[wet crane]

like the one I just posted

[wet crane]

I don't think that the white one is actually correct either btw

[echo ridge]

the base game is pretty intensely pink

[fallen roost]

looks very per channel to me

[wet crane]

something looks very off but yea

[echo ridge]

if thats the look we're basing off then having characters being strongly pink when lit is fine tbh

[wet crane]

the overly bright skin is another issue that trigger something in my brain that tells me that skin looks weird

[echo ridge]

what

no

[wet crane]

and there is no workaround that

[echo ridge]

when you go out

in real life

when ppl skin get lit by light

[wet crane]

you don't glow in the darkness yea

[echo ridge]

yeah but when the light hits your skin

it's supposed to look bright not diffused

[wet crane]

no I mean like this, the problem is mostly the game here
#1411110125732892807 message

[wet crane]

yea she looks fine here because of the shadows

she is shaded more realistically here

#1411110125732892807 message what was the light source in front of her here?

sdr looks just as weird I'm not talking about the presets

[echo ridge]

well i went away from there now

[echo ridge]

probably a lamp or something

but if you're talking about the thing where you're not standing in any light

but the character is still lit

[wet crane]

that's an anime thing I know

[echo ridge]

that's kind of a thing with this game

but also not really

given how much lighting affect the character models

it's just a base level of lightness

[wet crane]

I don't like it but I guess they want the characters to look the "same" everywhere

bad shadows and lighting can ruin a character's face/look etc

[echo ridge]

ehh, i dont think so its just a base level of lightness even when the character's not lit

but when there'

there's lighting, the characters are affected by them

#1411110125732892807 message

like this

[wet crane]

you are playing with grading strength 50

btw

try 100

😄

it brightens the characters even more

[echo ridge]

eh

i switch between mine and yours

it doesn't brighten

its not related to the lut

or any of our preset

[wet crane]

that's not how you tets it

reset all

then use the slider

the LUT increases the contrast almost everywhere

[echo ridge]

yes but that's the LUT increasing the contrast of light stuff

whats happening to the characters more likely is that there's a hidden light following the char

not that they're excluded from lighting calcs

because even when you walk into somewhere unlit

you still get directional shadow

you can see the shadow are cast from one direction on the chars even when there is no light

[wet crane]

your preset:
this is what I'm talking about, she looks perfectly fine on the first pic, but screen grading 50 makes her skin look weird on the second pic

[echo ridge]

vanilla?

where is vanilla

[wet crane]

vanilla?

[echo ridge]

yeah

so how does it look like in vanilla

[wet crane]

like off?

everyting?

or corrected vanilla

[echo ridge]

yeah just off with 2.2

[wet crane]

really bad but sec

xDDD

enjoy bloom

[echo ridge]

how about the other one

[echo ridge]

yeah bro so what's the problem

in the 2nd example her skin is affected by more pink/orange ish lighting

[wet crane]

yes but it does not turn her completely pink

[echo ridge]

whats the map location

for the 2nd example again

[wet crane]

minos sewer

[echo ridge]

it would be pink in the base game if they didn't have to blow it out bc of sdr

[wet crane]

yea sure,
"-damn I wanted her to look pink, but we are limited by SDR
-but we could just make her look pink
-nah that would be too easy"

[echo ridge]

i am now here

ii have not unlocked the waypoint btw

haven't finished septimont yet

[wet crane]

xD

well then I choose the best location, it's kinda hard to reach lol

[echo ridge]

but yea

this looks fine

one more place where you and I disagree

your preset makes the character look flat in this location

kinda like a cardboard cutout

[wet crane]

it's not "my preset" it's grading strength 100 lol

I want to keep it 100, you can't call it vanilla+ if you change the grading strength

[echo ridge]

true

make another one called

vanilla plus extra but not really

[wet crane]

I don't actually think that it looks that good tbh I mean the "artistic vision"

[echo ridge]

lol

well

time to make one preset

with scene grading 0

[wet crane]

what display do you use btw?

[echo ridge]

samsung g8 qdoled 32" 4k 240

[wet crane]

the colors are probably vastly different on your and my screen tbh xD

I'm using a calibrated LG C1

the colors are a lot brighter on a qdoled

[echo ridge]

i don't think that would be a diff bc I still prefer the same thing when I was using my C2

[wet crane]

you made me work on a hue shift fix

it's something that I hate too, but I think it's semi-fixable with the new blowout slider

[verbal schooner]

yeah the area you can enter again after the quest

[wet crane]

it's not going to be perfect, but better than yellow whites

[echo ridge]

what's the area i didn't keep track

[wet crane]

find the glowing tree on the dark tide river

or well a small island the tree grows later after you talked to Iuno

[echo ridge]

kk

definitely not vanilla preset

[wet crane]

let's call it "Broken UE5 HDR preset"

almost all UE5 games suffer from 0 scene grading in HDR nowadays

[echo ridge]

it looks somewhat okay but the lack of hue shift is really noticeable

[wet crane]

all we need is a better hue processor

tbh

[echo ridge]

if hue shift could work in scene grading 0 that thing might actually be usable

[wet crane]

ShortFuse said that he is working on fixing DarkTable

[echo ridge]

this paw looks wrong af bc it depended on sdr hue shift

[wet crane]

it look like a powerup from mario kart XD

[echo ridge]

@verbal schooner i must have got it captured somewhere else

because im back here and i dont see anything

[verbal schooner]

i dumped that one already

[echo ridge]

Ah

Kk

Good to know

[wet crane]

@echo ridge wait wait wait, it's actually blowout restoration that causes the issue

if you set it to 0 then hue sift works fine, no issues

even at grading strength 100

no wait, you can only use one of the two settings, both work fine if you keep the other at 0

[wet crane]

Vanilla vs Preset in progress

I need to increase blowout restoration somehow, without causing artifacting 😩

do you have Carthetya?

especially her weapon

if you switch to hear weapon in the resonator screen

and you increase both blowout restoration and hue shift then her weapon will start to look strange

increase one to 100 then adjust the other slider

[fallen roost]

@halcyon meteor ```cpp
#define RENODX_RENO_DRT_NEUTRAL_SDR_CLAMP_PEAK -1
#define RENODX_RENO_DRT_NEUTRAL_SDR_CLAMP_COLOR_SPACE -1
#define RENODX_RENO_DRT_NEUTRAL_SDR_TONE_MAP_METHOD renodx::tonemap::renodrt::config::tone_map_method::REINHARD

tonemappass clipped 😕 but this fixes it

[drowsy wolf]

@halcyon meteor btw those 2 doesnt work in dx11 do u know which shader is responsible for it or how to find it

[echo ridge]

its the interaction between the two

but also

if you want to see it

this is also a good place

Iuno's tree thing

after the main quest

[drowsy wolf]

oh so what about the shader i send you before u want me to redo it ? and put the name in front ?\

[echo ridge]

Vanilla/HDR+/Vanilla+

[wet crane]

it's not the best example but yea

both look wrong just differently

[echo ridge]

good place for screencaps though

[echo ridge]

nuh uh

[wet crane]

oh yea for sure

[echo ridge]

mine is bettah

less artifact

[wet crane]

yea ofc

my new preset is artifact free

buttttt

the colors are basicaly sdr 😩

I don't want to lower grading strength lol

[echo ridge]

Yeah you need to wait for better hue processib

[wet crane]

grading str 80 is actually near perfect

but I want to keep it at 100 for now

[drowsy wolf]

i just got those does it have 2 different one like one for septi and one for the rest?

[wet crane]

this is artifact free at least

[drowsy wolf]

is this ok ?

ok ok and lmk if the one i send u before work since is my first time not sure if i mess up anything

no i send u another one with additional shaders

is the shaders in it list only one should be missing is the augusta ult one

i think raven will do that one but the rest should be there

ty

[drowsy wolf]

fr

[wet crane]

tetragon temple is flickering with renodx for some reason

kinda looks like z fighting

inside the temple

@halcyon meteor Can you update the Vanilla+ preset? Thanks! 🙂

[light agate]

very nice！！

[echo ridge]

you posted an sdr screenshot bud

[light agate]

actually I dont know how to get a HDR sreenshot ,I used Xbox game bar(win+G) to get this picture( .png and .jxr).I posted a jxr.😂

[glad mauve]

ok I've had this on the back of my mind for a while so I might as well ask

How bloddy quickly do they release new content wtf

I swear Augusta came out like a month ago

[echo ridge]

use ReShade's built in

screenshot function

it spits out an HDR screenshot

[echo ridge]

6 weeks / 42 days patch cycle time

like every other gatcha game

[glad mauve]

almighty

those devs are being worked to the bone

Western devs need to pick it up

not waiting 3 months for content

when Gatchaslop pumps it out every 6 weeks

[bleak light]

They sacrificed events for that

No combat events for 2 patches

[glad mauve]

No idea what that is

but you have my sympathies

[foggy mica]

you basically play the story, then twiddle your thumbs afterwords :3 unlike previous patches where they did try to add something like a combat event, cuz the endgame is boring as hell and no new endgame has been added

[wet crane]

because they release new content every 5-6 weeks, it's a live service game 😄

[wet crane]

they generate a lot more revenue than "normal" studios, but they actually spend a lot more time on patches than 6 weeks, most of the 2.x content was finished a year ago

[sturdy cloak]

I'm coping telling myself they're cooking for 3.0.

[wet crane]

they basically make a ~30-40 hours expansion for their game every year, it's not that big of a deal tbh

[foggy mica]

yeah, gatcha games have in advanced made content, they are not making 3.0 as we speak, it’s already done

[wet crane]

yeah haha

[foggy mica]

[wet crane]

they are just fine tuning the balancing after the betas

[foggy mica]

me too

[foggy mica]

yeah that is the last step for the characters

[wet crane]

3.0 is going to be as big as 2.0 probably

a huge new map with lots to do

[foggy mica]

yap

[bleak light]

Don't forget cyberpunk collab , we are getting Night City in wuwa

[sturdy cloak]

I have no doubts they're mostly done. But I would surmise they're still polishing latter parts of 3.x (like the last 10-20%).

[foggy mica]

every X.0 is huge changes

[foggy mica]

polishing maybe, but i bet they already have 3.0 and 3.1 dones if not even 3.2

[wet crane]

I'm not sure about that, we are going to get the cahracters

"night city" is 4.0

it's already kinda confimed

[bleak light]

But 4.0 would be 2027

[wet crane]

yes

[bleak light]

Maybe like Septimont, we are getting Night City as second half of the 3.x

*cope

[wet crane]

yea maybe

we are getting Lahai-Roi first thats for sure

[foggy mica]

bruh! it’s OK I GOT ARKNIGHT ENDFIELD FOR MY SCI-FI ITCH!

[sturdy cloak]

Yes that seems reasonable to me. Although they probably have a part of their team working on problems as they come up. After all, I would be quite surprised if they had 'break RTGI" and "fix it" on their schedule for 2.6 and 2.7 😂 !

[foggy mica]

oh yeah as you said, that last part to polish XD

because it’s a lot different when you have the live version VS the version made in a studio

[wet crane]

breaking RTGI was intentional, 2.7 fixed it, but RT is 20-30% more performance heavy now

it was a "test"

😄

[foggy mica]

WTF? so that’s way i was so surprised of the FPS drops after 2.7 update!

[wet crane]

yea

[foggy mica]

fuck this shit man T^T do i need 5080 level of GPU to run this garbo gatcha at above 80 FPS with RT medium?

[wet crane]

the performance is similar to 2.6 if you lower RT quality to medium

from high

[foggy mica]

my 4070 Super is struggling to keep constant 80 fps when i fly

[wet crane]

that's thanks to UE4 too

[sturdy cloak]

Really😅 ? What depresses me the most is the fact that literally no one talked about it outside of this discord. I mean, are only 1% of people owning a pair of eyes or something ?😅 😭

[foggy mica]

yeah but it was from 80 fps to 40!!! that huge drop was after 2.7

[wet crane]

UE4 has asset loading issues and retrofitting ray tracing is not kind on the CPU

[bleak light]

9000 series card RT dont even work at all, is just rainbow shiny everywhere

[foggy mica]

9800x3d cpu man

T^T

[bleak light]

My performance is actually better lol

Not possible from 80->40 bruh

[foggy mica]

when i fly only

[wet crane]

I reported it to them in-game using the report function, and they said that they are working on it 😄

[foggy mica]

when I’m on ground some times it goes from 80 to 65 but shoots up to 80, when i fly it’s 40+ fps T^T

[bleak light]

1% low is their incurable disease, i just turn off frametime stats and enjoy the game

[wet crane]

that's bad, it runs a lot smoother on my PC, 4080 + 9800X3D + 6000mhz CL30 DDR5

[sturdy cloak]

Well okay, but did you see a lot of players complaining ? Even without RTGI it was pretty horrible in some places.

[wet crane]

no not really, but it was obviously broken

I'm more surprised that they fixed the anti aliasing issues

after like 4 patches

[foggy mica]

bruh has a 4080 XD

man i need a X080 ver GPU >.>

[wet crane]

4080 = 5070 ti

[sturdy cloak]

Yeah you're right. It looks okay now, so all in all I'm pretty darn happy.

[wet crane]

yea me too

[sturdy cloak]

By the way, I'm rocking you're updated 2.2 gamma preset now. It's awesome !

[foggy mica]

still better that a 4070 super that is just slightly better that a 4070 XD

[wet crane]

oh yea for sure

[foggy mica]

i sooo regret not closing the 4070 TI super when i had the chance

[wet crane]

I'm waiting for the 60xx series

I want GPUs that are a lot more power efficient than the 50xx series

400W MAX TDP 24GB 6080 which is fsater than the 4090

the ray traced reflection flickering in tetragon temple is really annoying

renodx casues RT reflection flickering in tetragon temple @halcyon meteor

I recompiled the shaders but still

weird

[wet crane]

I switched to hue shift 100 and I needed all the colors I could get haha

it's very useful if you use blowout restoration and/or you lower the grading strength though!

[analog glacier]

How did you manage to run wuwa with AutoHDR? 😄 I tried the HDR mode of SpecialK you mentioned lately but it was all grey, idk why

[wet crane]

I used SK HDR nothing special lol

[wet crane]

if SK HDR was grey then it was in raw framebuffer mode

it's not renodx

it's weird

deleting the shaders then recompiling them fixes it in the vanilla game BUT

the issue comes back after a restart

or maybe it is idk anymore, I'm not getting the issue in the vanilla game now

it's probably the game

yea it's the game

you just have to leave the temple and go back

if you "spawn" inside the temple then it looks fine

they fixed RGTI but broke RT reflections xD

yea

they are actually trying to fix stuff

even niche stuff like RT

[wet crane]

Experimental gamma correction off vs current gamma correct 2.2 preset

that blue wall tinting of gamma correction 2.2 is driving me crazy

vanilla vs adjusted 2.2 gamma correction preset

it's getting there

[sturdy cloak]

Actually, I think it's also present in gamma 2.0. But since it's crushed toward black, it is less noticeable. You can see it at the edge of corner shadows. My guess is that something is probably broken in the way unreal handles very dark gradients by default. I'm pretty sure that's not the first UE game where I notice that... But it is admitedly quite disturbing.

[sturdy cloak]

Although If you do manage to get rid of it, all the better 😂... Maybe I spoke to soon ! But I'm pretty sure shadows being blue on edges has always been a pb though. Expecially in Jinzhou.

[wet crane]

yea it's jsut less noticeable with gamma correction off, because shadows are very desaturated

vanilla vs gamma correction 2.2

so blueeeee

I think it's semi fixable

[sturdy cloak]

That's really the only thing though. For the rest, it looks prestine. What's the settings you're playing on to try and get rid of it ? For educational purposes.

[wet crane]

I'm trying to play with the midtones using exposure

but that introduces another set of problems 😩

[sturdy cloak]

Ho yeah ? What kind ? Stuff like highlight clipping ? Or it shift other tones to much maybe ?

[wet crane]

nothing like that, it just messes with the highlights, clothes and other objects glow more

[sturdy cloak]

Ha... sonds like a conundrum...

Just try imagining your Son Goku

I will most definitely do my best to send energy your may😅 ...

Well, I will try at least !

[wet crane]

the waveform matches now tho

colors are still off

[sturdy cloak]

Sdr vs hdr ?

[wet crane]

vanilla vs hdr

vanilla tonemapper

[sturdy cloak]

You find colors off ? It's almost a perfect match to my eyes.

[wet crane]

I do focus on the whiteish wall on the right side

it's more obvious when its dark

that blue tinting is not fixable

that's why the wall is more "white" in daylight too

it is what is is

[sturdy cloak]

I think I see it but it's pretty damn subtle 🥲. I might even be fooling myself there😱 . The loss in satururation is pretty small here. Is it more the right side of the back wall or the wall on the right ?

[wet crane]

the wall on right, that arch thing

[sturdy cloak]

In that case, isn't it just brighter in hdr because it's directly lit ? Wich does makes it appear whiter in turn.

[wet crane]

Old 2.2 gamma correction preset vs new

I managed to improve it a little at least

[wet crane]

nah it's the blue tinting that changes brownish white to grayish white

directly lit areas are mostly unaffected

yea the new preset looks fine

I will test it at the rest of the locations

[sturdy cloak]

Change of balance visible in CCL ?

[wet crane]

CCL?

[sturdy cloak]

Like the red/green/blue values in hdr analysis

[sturdy cloak]

Uhm cll

[wet crane]

yes

[sturdy cloak]

Sorry

[sturdy cloak]

Drats... it does look great overall though. It's getting pretty damn close to a 1 to 1 translation I think.

[wet crane]

ok the resonator screen looks nice too

I love this chimera TD with all the bright neon colors

perfect for testing XD

@sturdy cloak it's basically 1:1 now

need more saturation in highlights, but this is the best I can do with the current hue processor

I mean I could increase highlight saturation

should I still test it?

[wet crane]

oh I used blowout 50, it looks okay with blowout at 0

[pulsar gazelle]

Now, I'm going to rob you
Your RenoDX Presets
Hand it over

[wet crane]

alright

just a sec

it's basically fixed

lol

the difference is very small

[fallen roost]

not how displays work

PQ and gamma are per channel

[wet crane]

I guess that blue "tinting" is how it is supposed to look like

[fallen roost]

per channel will make shadows bluer and redder

and highlights whiter

that's the spec actually

not a great spec

but the spec

if you're in SDR, you're in 2.2 99.999% of the time

[wet crane]

I mean we don't see that in SDR 😄

[fallen roost]

if they wanted you to be in sRGB that would extremely rare

flare and no eotf correction is also an option

[wet crane]

I can live with the blue, if it's theoretically correct

[fallen roost]

it's as shipped for SDR

[wet crane]

yea gamma correction off with flare works fine

[faint monolith]

The blue tint on rocks in dark scenes has always been present—it's likely an intentional design choice by the developers

[wet crane]

yea

[fallen roost]

something like this

[wet crane]

It's fine, I don't really mind the blue, but the vanilla tonemapper with gamma correction enabled is "less blue" 😄

[faint monolith]

Additionally, it actually increases the saturation of both red and green

[fallen roost]

it saturates everything, but over saturates red and blue relative to green

you can get some red and blue smear

[faint monolith]

The change in red saturation is clearly visible on Phrolova's skirt

[wet crane]

This is better I think:

Thanks!

I forgot the hue correction 😅

[sturdy cloak]

Ho my gosh. I want it.🔥

[wet crane]

#1411110125732892807 message 😄

[sturdy cloak]

Wasn't at the bottom yet !😂

[wet crane]

@sturdy cloak if you don't like the blue shadows use this:

[drowsy wolf]

@halcyon meteor where can I see which one is add-on in the dev kit

[foggy mica]

it says when you snapshot the shaders

[foggy mica]

should i use this one ? i do like the idea of pressing F5 for the snapshot XD cuz it's annoying to have the RenoDX dev full on screen XD even if i have a ultrawide monitor

and use my controller

• M&K

[drowsy wolf]

where does it says is an addon

[foggy mica]

Insted of Original it says add-on with white font

[drowsy wolf]

oh ok i see

ps mean addon got it

[foggy mica]

I mean ps is for Original too, it’s just that insted of Original it should say Add-on

[drowsy wolf]

wait no mb

i see what u mean '

yea im blind

[foggy mica]

XD no issue

Didn’t he show you that part ? With the add-on and original shader?

[drowsy wolf]

no

[foggy mica]

…..

[drowsy wolf]

he just show me the 2 simple output since i couldnt do any without a controller

[foggy mica]

I see

Bruh my monitor stops showing me the pixel refresh every 4 hours if in that moment i press, “do it on stand-by”

So i have to maualy do it and then it will remind me again after 4 hours

[drowsy wolf]

btw u gonna do augusta? i think thats the only one missing

[foggy mica]

Otherwise i forget that and wander way i didn’t got the message XD

Now

:£

[drowsy wolf]

lmao

[foggy mica]

XD

[drowsy wolf]

and lmk if u see any clamp ill try to fix it

[foggy mica]

For the little characters that i have i don’t think i will see one, unless on augusta

[foggy mica]

Plus i use Dx12 XD

By the way is the clamping starting right as i press R and the ultimate starts?

[drowsy wolf]

idk is a shader that was on the list

but idk what it is

[foggy mica]

Oh ok :3 i think i figure out when it happens

By the way, how will you describe cliping for you? For me it looks like the colors get a very noticable blue tint and the brightness of stuff gets down ofc

[drowsy wolf]

i guess my eye just tells me is not bright enough for it to be hdr

lmfa o

[foggy mica]

Oh interesting

@drowsy wolf i found that there are some dream patrol combat challenge i haven’t done so i use that to recharge my ULT then quit the challenge and use ult to check for the shader XD unlimited ULT charging

[drowsy wolf]

i did that too lmfao

even if u complete it is still there

[foggy mica]

Ooo i see

@drowsy wolf by the way, where do you usualy start ? From what shader number?

Shader snapshot?

[drowsy wolf]

i do from the start to finish

i didnt skip anything except augusta and candarella fish one

[foggy mica]

Like shaphot 2345?

[drowsy wolf]

not candarella ult

can u send me the list again

[foggy mica]

No i mean

[drowsy wolf]

@halcyon meteor this disable the pings and coordination in the game im wondering if u can perma disable it or other people still likes it

nvm i found it

Output shader 18
Iuno story quest area
Output shader 19
Augusta's ult
Archive
Output shader (Can probably leave unpatched, it's barely noticeable
Cantarella when coming out of jellyfish state

those are missing

[foggy mica]

@drowsy wolf i mean this, in what order did you try to draw the shader? cuz i was told to start from the bottom to up but after the shader that is above add-on like here to start from snapshot 2054

[drowsy wolf]

yes bottom to up

[foggy mica]

cuz this method worked, but with augusta ult, i end up going 10 shaders up without catching the one that clips

[drowsy wolf]

always do that

and disable 10 each time

until u find it

[foggy mica]

.> oooo

10 each?

[drowsy wolf]

yes 10 and if u got it start by disabling 3 each time

until u get it by process of elimination

[foggy mica]

aha

so disable 10, and if it’s among them, enable 3 each ? untill you reach with 1?

[drowsy wolf]

yep

[foggy mica]

damn, and here i was doing 1 by 1

[drowsy wolf]

1 by 1 is cancer

[foggy mica]

well, the more you learn XD

[foggy mica]

[drowsy wolf]

🙂

and do u have cand?

[foggy mica]

?

[drowsy wolf]

canderella

[foggy mica]

Nop

[drowsy wolf]

for the jellyfish shader

ok ill try to get that one

[foggy mica]

what is the shared shader wit h?

[drowsy wolf]

nothing

[foggy mica]

Just canterella ?

[drowsy wolf]

because is a small part of her ult

yep

[foggy mica]

Aha

Ok

Yeah i do not have her

[drowsy wolf]

Output shader (Can probably leave unpatched, it's barely noticeable
Cantarella when coming out of jellyfish state

this

[foggy mica]

Oh i know that one

[drowsy wolf]

it says barely noticeable

[foggy mica]

When you give me your account i think i manage to get it at some point?

[drowsy wolf]

i dont get what it means by jellyfish state

[foggy mica]

When she floats in the air ?

And the arena changes

Like with augusta ult but this is just her normal thing

It becomes blue eveywhere if I’m not mistaken

[drowsy wolf]

wtv i tried to use her ult and didnt see anything so i guess it wasnt noticeable

and do u have galbrena anything cliping with her?

[foggy mica]

I only have 4 limited 5 stars XD sorry that’s way i was happy you offer to help with shaders since you DO need kinda almost all characters

Well at least half of them XD

Since many share

Shaders

@halcyon meteor is it possible that just a smoll part of a bigger shader clips? Cuz with augusta i found one that literaly turns from the looks of it more that 1 shader, like it makes the texture of the character and the background to be black XD and that portion that has that cliping is also not showing up

[drowsy wolf]

i dont have galbrena so not sure if something is wrong with her

[foggy mica]

So does that mean that i have to keep looking for the smoll shader that clips ? Or do i dump this big one ?

[drowsy wolf]

mabye we lucky and she share some shader with other people

[foggy mica]

We can wait if some one is reporting a cliping for now

[drowsy wolf]

fr hnl her pull rate isnt that high

[foggy mica]

I’m part of the people that didn\t pull for her XD

Cuz they screw up her gameplay, i got Carlotta Augusta and Iuno, Galbrena gameplay is kinda boring

Way to simple

[drowsy wolf]

fusion team just not in a good spot

[wet crane]

I don't like my new preset during gameplay yay 😅

[foggy mica]

Bruh

[wet crane]

back to the drawing board

[foggy mica]

I copy yours!

Smh

[wet crane]

this one is better imo

[foggy mica]

Just shows i have no idea how i will like my HDR to look like XD

Ok

Gonna trust you again

[wet crane]

but I had a great idea, so I'm testing a new preset, again

[foggy mica]

Ok HDR cook

:3

Show me your new dish

FUCK ME, i can’t get the stupid shader in augusta Ult i had drawn 30-40 shaders at this point T^T I’m not catching it

Actualy up to 100 shaders, i forgot i snapshot this ult 5-7 times

Wait a moment, there is not cliping?

I’m on the dx12 and the same effect that i though was clipping happens during the ult

Is it not patched on Dx11 and Dx12?

[drowsy wolf]

no idea but ik im the only one that did dx11 so augusta shouldnt be patch

unless they didnt change anything

[foggy mica]

But the dx12 is the same? At least the part in the ULT i believe is cliping?

By the way if you didn;t try dx11 with augusta how do you know it clips? The list is not ours so i wander if the augusta ult cliping is from dx12 only

[drowsy wolf]

im playing in dx11

ik if it is cliping but it was on the list to do list

and i didnt do it

[foggy mica]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

The list doesn;t mention if it’s dx11 or dx12

In general it’s not the same shaders, that’s way we have to do them both

And if on dx11 some are not changed?

[drowsy wolf]

do u have a dx11 list ?

[foggy mica]

No it’s that one list XD it doesn;t mention anything of direct x

[drowsy wolf]

so do we make a dx11 list daf?

[foggy mica]

Well we can cross it as fixed for now

[drowsy wolf]

yea ok

[foggy mica]

Hm, we can wait for the next patch and follow the same list again, maybe augusta ult is now not broken

Unless some one can see the clipping and is not me tripping on where that is happening

[drowsy wolf]

we can ask spiwar to see if he patched augusta

[foggy mica]

Yeah

[drowsy wolf]

@echo ridge did u patch augusta on dx12?

[foggy mica]

And ask him to check the dx11 too

Cuz on my part, where i think is clipping, is happening in dx12 too

[drowsy wolf]

ok

[echo ridge]

What the fuck

[foggy mica]

XD

[echo ridge]

Is going on

[foggy mica]

did you got augusta ult on dx12?

The shader?

[echo ridge]

I dont have augusta bud

[foggy mica]

Oh i see

We where doing dx11 cuz that’s what we do XD i was expecting you to do Dx12 XD

[echo ridge]

Someone else shpuld have dumped it

If not u can go ahead

[foggy mica]

Oh, wait i think i remember who

[echo ridge]

Turns out phrolova still need 2 shaders to be fully patched, i only included 1 shader for phrolova in the zip i sent

[foggy mica]

this bloody convo XD

who fixed augusta shaders first time ? i clearly didn't

[echo ridge]

Either wino or kotorin had it

[foggy mica]

ah i do not know if what i see during her ult is the thing that clips or a damn screen effect

[drowsy wolf]

i did 2 on dx11

[foggy mica]

@verbal schooner can you check if Augusta ult still clips? or is my eyes going to shit and i need a eye glasses change ASAP

bruh is like 1 week ago i was seeing quite well and suddenly it degraded a little bit T^T (and yes I blame my eye glasses prescription for this one stupid shader XD )

[verbal schooner]

Touching grass today won't be home until a few hours later to check

[foggy mica]

Ok thanks :3

[wet crane]

do you play with auto exposure on or off?

[foggy mica]

On

[wet crane]

yea off looks very strange

everything glows in the dark lol

off vs on

like wtf xD

[foggy mica]

XD

[wet crane]

why is this even an option

[foggy mica]

Some people like it i guess?

[wet crane]

this is the reason why scenes can get super dark sometimes

[foggy mica]

Ain’t caves getting bright ith this off?

[wet crane]

I guess lol

[wet crane]

bright?

you mean pitch black

[foggy mica]

That was what it was shown when they introduced this option

In their livestream

A cave got less shadows inside

And since they said tha i let it on

[wet crane]

it's buggy

[foggy mica]

Ofc

XD

[wet crane]

I don't think that they actually tested the game with auto exposure off

Galbrena is non-stop aura farming

[wet crane]

this is as close as it gets to 1:1
SDR vs Reno

[sturdy cloak]

What's your preset ?🤔

🥸

👨‍🍳

[wet crane]

with sun

I really don't like how the sun looks with Reno though

[sturdy cloak]

Really ?

[foggy mica]

Great Kuro screwn up the sound of your character walking :3 now it feels like my augusta is a ninja, ofc i can hear it if i put the volume to max for sound effects but fuck that shit way is it so low ?

[wet crane]

@halcyon meteor can you maybe do something about the sun ? the texture/shader looks so weird 😅 #1411110125732892807 message

[wet crane]

yea it's not bright enough, it looks like a sticker on the sky

[wet crane]

the new vanilla + preset

or well almost

highlight 62 -> 63, contrast 53 -> 52

it's time to match to sub 100 nits waveform to vanilla 😅

[sturdy cloak]

Gotcha. Well SDR was so much worse in that regard by comparison.... But well yes. Maybe a bit. I don't know if it's bloom related or anything, but it kinda looks smaller in HDR actually

[wet crane]

yes SDR is bad ofc