Updated belts, they now work with

[earnest idol]

What about performance? Usually belts that require electricity are bad for UPS.

Also, I think you can't make belts with less than 1.875 i/s speed: https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/prototypes/TransportBeltConnectablePrototype.html#speed

[gusty edge]

its been fine so far

they dont update every tick

u can visually see it too

but i do have an idea for preformance so

i think i can make it run smoothly

[earnest idol]

I guess you've made different prototypes for each possible speed value?

[gusty edge]

yeah pretty much

theres no real other way to do it from whta i can tell

[earnest idol]

That's like 107 prototype copies if you want scaling up to 200 i/s, it's far from limit

[gusty edge]

Btw every belt is split into 6 groups that are update separately from each other

[gusty edge]

Well idk what the actual limit is but I figured i should just cap it at 200 cus less prototypes and why do u need more than 200 items per second 😭

[earnest idol]

You can even add a research, that will increase max belt speed available

Like, you start with 30 i/s max and increase it with research

[gusty edge]

Yeah that’s what I plan to do

[gusty edge]

The max at the star is 10 lol

[earnest idol]

I have 7.5 i/s for first belt in my overhaul 🙂

[rough lagoon]

other powered blet mods, have high UPS usage, you dont need to check the belts every Nth tick?

[gusty edge]

No?

I split up the usage of all the belts across multiple ticks

[gusty edge]

I haven’t even gone into decimals for the thing lmao

“0.001 items per second”

[earnest idol]

According to docs speed should be multiplier of 1.875 i/s. Otherwise I think it rounds?

[gusty edge]

Hmm interesting

[earnest idol]

So you probably should make speed scaling with this step

[gusty edge]

Yeah but like

Looks weird

[gusty edge]

But ig this makes sense why 2 I/s works but 1 doesn’t

[earnest idol]

You can get displayed speed that don't get divided by this number, but real speed will be wrong, compared to tooltip

[gusty edge]

Soo account for the rounding?

[earnest idol]

Just round number in textbox to nearest correct value

Like user writes 8 i/s, you convert it to 7.5

[gusty edge]

😔

Ig yeah

[earnest idol]

Or round it up, I dunno

[gusty edge]

Still is sad but

What can u do lol

[earnest idol]

I guess your belts consume energy constantly? Do you spawn hidden entity under each belt for energy consumption or just calculate it runtime for EEI?

[gusty edge]

Yep

They have actual “motors”

[earnest idol]

What did you use as prototype for them? Lamps?

I guess lamp won't work

[gusty edge]

tbh im not sure

all i did was this and it worked

local belt_power = {
    type = "electric-energy-interface",
    name = "ddos-belt-power-interface",
    icon = "__base__/graphics/icons/accumulator.png",
    icon_size = 64,
    flags = {"not-on-map", "placeable-off-grid", "player-creation"},
    collision_box = nil,
    selection_box = nil,
    collision_mask = {layers={}},
    selectable_in_game = false,
    energy_source = {
        type = "electric",
        buffer_capacity = "1MJ",
        usage_priority = "secondary-input",
        input_flow_limit = "100MW",
        output_flow_limit = "0W"
    }
}
data:extend({belt_power})

just an interface

[earnest idol]

AFAIK EEI is bad for performance. I heard that constant combinators have almost zero cost

Hmm, it doesn't have energy source

51k EEI cost about 2.5ms for me
Lamps doesn't show up in entity time usage, but with 51k of them my total update time was 0.3ms

[gusty edge]

so i should change it to what

cc or lamps lol

make the belts glow 🙏

[earnest idol]

Try lamps with always_on, and disabled anything related to glow or light

[gusty edge]

u actually placed 51k lamps??

[earnest idol]

I've used this: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/region-cloner

[gusty edge]

oh dam thats peak

[gusty edge]

ok lets see if i did it correctly

ok seems like idid