Rubia Open Beta

[muted kindle]

Starting thread

[shrewd rover]

oh so that's what the recent inserter posts were about, interesting

[muted kindle]

It's actually a very fun concept tbh. While I am biased, the idea is most certainly carrying me.

[shrewd rover]

i should really try some custom planet mods, have been sticking to space age & krastorio, but so many fun ones worth thowing in

[muted kindle]

The biggest benefits of a planet mod are: 1) you can add them to an existing save (usually), and 2) You can try a wacky idea that isn't enough to warrant a whole overhaul mod

[pseudo salmon]

(biased to the right, obviously) 😉

[plush jolt]

Imagine this with renai

[plush jolt]

Nono
I mean maybe
Idk.... Objects not being able to be thrown against the wind even witg bounce pads? Or maybe longer range when thrown with the wind?

With Renai

[muted kindle]

The mod doesn't allow anything from Renai to oppose the wind.

[plush jolt]

Great

But yeah wind boosting physics items sounds silly

What do you think

[muted kindle]

I think it would take me more time and effort to implement that

[plush jolt]

Oop

[muted kindle]

Kiplacon would need to implement that (or an interface) to allow me to do it smoothly

realistically, I would want renai thrower inserters and bounce pads (etc) to shift the landing position of any thrown/bounced item by +3 tiles in X, or something like that

but that also makes throwers really terrible to use in practice, so I'd be asking Kiplacon "Please spend time messing with a core feature of your mod, so people would want to use it less in my one use case."

[floral bobcat]

I want to try more planet mods… but the hassle of space travel has just worn me down and I haven’t touched any actual Space Age saves in a little while 😅
Does this work with Space is Flat or another spaceless SA mod? Looking for recommendations where I can just shoot rockets from planet to planet 😅
(probably No Space Platforms is the one to go with, I just don’t know if it’s compatible with other planet mods)

Also, I saw this on the mod portal the other day and looks really cool!
Also really curious what the other microbiological part is (but not fishing for spoilers)

[muted kindle]

That sort of compatibility is going to come later, tbh

Rubia’s crafting chain makes it extremely difficult to craft Nauvis sciences, with support for any of them being added after the planet is clear.

[floral bobcat]

Yeah, no, I think it just lets you launch rockets from planet to planet (and changes white science), which can be a nice streamlining 😅

So, hypothetically should work with planet mods…

[floral bobcat]

I relish that challenge…
(If it’s possible 😅)

[pseudo salmon]

Out of curiosity: do you have any provisions to keep players from using wagons or rocket silos as leftward transportation?

[floral bobcat]

Oh, I would think that the wind is far too brutal for trains to run…
(And inserters can pass left so idk how they would work as stationary transports).
…Rockets I could see but would be expensive

[pseudo salmon]

I'm not going to lie and say it's efficient, but...

[muted kindle]

Wagons are allowed leftward transport on the planet, but you need to use my planet’s unique trains. These trains are unlocked late, and are major gas-guzzlers

[muted kindle]

inserters can only insert to the right on my planet

inserters and splitters have the most severe restrictions, by necessity

[floral bobcat]

Thanks I hate it

[muted kindle]

The wind blocks most normal trains from being placed on my planet. You need special, heavily armored trains that consume a lot of fuel capable of driving upwind.

[floral bobcat]

Ah, I figured right, up, or down, but I see in the preview image it’s right only

[pseudo salmon]

Ah, got it. For some reason I also thought the constraint was "no left", rather than "right only"

[muted kindle]

“no left” is the constraint for most constrained entities. Inserters and splitters are unique because you can really easily cheese things.

for example, “no left” applies to belts, underground belts, renai bounce pads,…. i forget but there is a much bigger list

and FYI Renai, bobs, and Jan’s adjustable inserters are fully supported

[floral bobcat]

Same

[floral bobcat]

Yeah, right-only belts would be brutal 😅

I mean, I could see it being diagonal; right and up only 😆

[ripe pendant]

After the latest patch I was able to open up Rubia for planetary logistics!

[muted kindle]

very nice base