PS: i also got some lags on bigger blueprints. and i update the map sometimes via artillery cause it feels faster as u see on the screenshot then the map gets stuck for some time and i only can see my character.
#Lags game Slowmo
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candid gust
Bots are the easiest way to get ups issue
candid gust
Especially if they're waiting in que a lot
rigid roost
Yup, it's probably the bots. They are part of entity update but are not shown in the entity-time-usage stats because they do not update every tick
How many bots are actually in the air at any time though?
prisma galleon
where can i see the airtime?
rigid roost
You can mouse over a roboport to see total and available bots for that network
Any bots that are not available are flying 
prisma galleon
36k building bots are not available
rigid roost
That's quite a lot
prisma galleon
and on all planets there are like 100k of logistic bots flying @ the same time
thats my CPU wile factorio
rigid roost
CPU speed usually isn't the limit
It's RAM latency
The CPU can't do much if it's waiting for more data to arrive from the RAM
prisma galleon
Can u see the problem via debugscren?
lilac canopy
Yup, it's probably the bots. They are part of entity update but are not shown in...
I'd read this as "no".
prisma galleon
some more stats for those understand this xD
thats the performance report of the game
rigid roost
Hmm, yes, it is indeed runnnig slow
prisma galleon
im doing nothing for like 30 mins and let it just run right now it even beggins to frezze sometimes xD
rigid roost
If you share a save I can have a look at it
prisma galleon
btw its not 600k bots its just around 300k bots xD
lilac canopy
still too many by an order of magnitude
prisma galleon
There is nothing rly efficient were just playing around without using to much google or BPs
rigid roost
lmao
Yup, there's bots allright
4.8k entities are missing materials for construction 
And there's not enough logistics storage available on... any planet
Yeah I see why this would run poorly...
prisma galleon
Well i thought my PC should be able to Handle bots xD just spam more and more xD
rigid roost
I mean, it might be
prisma galleon
So the solution would be building a big big big warehouse for millions of items?
rigid roost
Yes, at the very least fix all of those "no logistics storage space" issues
Oh my
I set up a buffer lol
Bots are not efficient item storage
Oh, there's tons of active provider chests too
You might wanna fix that first lmao
rigid roost
Yes
candid gust
Good prediction lol
Yeah queing bots is the only time ive had ups isses
rigid roost
Applying quick fix
prisma galleon
lul
rigid roost
Game froze 
candid gust
Don't do full bot base at this scale
rigid roost
Oh, there it goes again
Now to wait out the great migration and see if that fixes things lol
rigid roost
There we go
And that's on a 5800X
Ok map view is a lot worse with the bot overlay lmao
Protip: replace all the active provider chests before you build a big storage buffer
prisma galleon
ok.
do u have a BP for the buffer? so i dont need to click manual?
ah and if were at this point when do u use red storge and we purple?
rigid roost
Drag a line of chests. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V
rigid roost
ah and if were at this point when do u use red storge and we purple?
Active provider: never
Passive provider: always
prisma galleon
ohhh
well
didnt knew that lul
how u made the change on all providers at 1
?
rigid roost
Upgrade planner and /editor
Because fixing people's bases is a lot easier in the map editor
Right click an upgrade planner and you can set specific entities to upgrade
Oh the buffer chests on Gleba are an issue too
They don't even have requests lol. You're just using them as active providers
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Just... everywhere
prisma galleon
it seems ive learned somthing by running into that issue xD
rigid roost
Why is there a 4-4 balancer book hanging from a robot in that save lol
prisma galleon
Im shure u will find a lot of strange stuff on this map xD
